Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1079: How to Activate Muscles by Flexing, the Pros & Cons of Open Chain vs. Closed Chain Exercises, the Future of Peloton & Other Streaming At-Home Workouts & MORE

Episode Date: July 20, 2019

In this episode of Quah, sponsored by Organifi (organifi.com/mindpump, code "mindpump" for 20% off), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about activating muscles by flexing them before compo...und lifts, the difference in stimuli, physically and cognitively, between open chain and closed chain exercises, if it is normal for joints to hurt after lifting, and Peloton and other streaming at-home workouts. How having kids tends to change your perspective on the relationship with your family, disciplining your kids & MORE. (3:52) Four Sigmatic Special Coffee Offer for Mind Pump listeners!! (15:50) The importance of adjusting intensity: How the USWNT used innovative period tracking to help player performance at the World Cup. (17:23) Conspiracy Theory Hour: US Government weaponized ticks and other insects, Lyme disease on Plum Island & MORE. (22:54) The guilty till proven innocent era we currently live in...' Mr. Olympia' Shawn Rhoden charged with rape, eligibility revoked. (29:58) Shame on us! Is the trending FaceApp a massive security risk??!! (33:07) Jeffrey Epstein and the utility of fake billions. (36:00) Competition is heating up in streaming land! Netflix numbers declining, the future of streaming platforms & MORE. (37:47) Things are getting out of control! ‘Manholes’ to become ‘Maintenance Holes’ in Berkeley, CA. (44:57) #Quah question #1 – Can you activate a muscle by flexing it before compound lifts? (46:33) #Quah question #2 – Can you expand on the difference in stimuli, physically and cognitively, between open chain and closed chain exercises? What are the pros and cons of each and should you stick to one or the other during a workout? (53:50) #Quah question #3 – It is normal for all my joints to hurt after I lift? I know there should be inflammation with my muscles and possibly my joints, but I feel it mainly in my joints the day after. Specifically, my knees and shoulders. Could it be due to years of running track as a teen? (1:02:15) #Quah question #4 – What are your thoughts on Peloton and other streaming at-home workouts? How long before VR compatible treadmills and rowers? (1:07:21) People Mentioned Jordan Peterson (@jordan.b.peterson)  Instagram Andy Galpin (@drandygalpin)  Instagram Shawn Rhoden (@flexatronrhoden)  Instagram Phil Heath (@philheath)  Instagram Kai Greene (@kaigreene)  Instagram   Related Links/Products Mentioned July Promotion: MAPS Anywhere ½ off!! **Code “ANYWHERE50” at checkout** Visit Four Sigmatic for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners (Coffee Week Offer)! **Code “mindpump” at checkout** USWNT used innovative period tracking to help player performance at World Cup House Requiring Pentagon to Say Whether It Weaponized Ticks, Other Insects Lyme Disease on Plum Island: Fringe Conspiracy Theory or Government Cover-up? Operation Northwoods - The National Security Archive Stranger Things | Netflix Official Site 'Mr. Olympia' Shawn Rhoden Charged with Rape, Eligibility Revoked Jeffrey Epstein and the utility of fake billions FaceApp: Is The Russian Face-Aging App A Danger To Your Privacy? Here's Why Netflix Thinks Its Subscriptions Are Declining Manholes in Berkeley will now be called 'maintenance holes' Prime Bundle | MAPS Fitness Products - Mind Pump Peloton is reportedly a step closer to an IPO that could value it at more than $8 billion. Here's how this high-tech fitness company compares to SoulCycle. Mind Pump Free Resources

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Starting point is 00:00:00 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. Mite, ob-mite, up with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this super awesome episode of The Mind Pump, we talk about fitness, building muscle, burning body fat, and we talk about current events and fun stuff. Here's what we talked about in the first 42 minutes introductory portion of this episode.
Starting point is 00:00:28 We talked about disciplining children and how we were disciplined versus how we're gonna discipline our kids. I'm not gonna use the old school Sicilian wooden spoon. No, no thrown shoes. No, no, that's stuff that was used on me. We talked about four sigmatics, huge sale that they're doing on their mushroom coffee. Now they have coffee that is infused with medicinal mushrooms that provide additional
Starting point is 00:00:53 benefits to the caffeine. So if you like the caffeine buzz, but you want to enhance it, you should try the four sigmatic coffee. Well, check this out. It is 25% off right now. And we have an additional 15% off when you use the code, mind pump for the special discount on four-sigmatic mushroom coffee. Make sure you click on the link in the show notes on our website. Then we talk about the women's US soccer team training cycle. Apparently they were training around their their their their menstrual cycles and taking the workouts and maximizing them based on their hormones. I talked about the Department of Defense possibly weaponizing insects from 1950s. It's like terrified the hell. 1972 conspiracy theory
Starting point is 00:01:41 time. We went into more conspiracy theories after that. Then we talked about the face swap app that everybody downloaded. Guess what, the Russians own it. Good job. There we go. We talked about Netflix losing subscribers. Looks like competition is heating up. I talked about Berkeley spending well earned taxpayer dollars
Starting point is 00:02:00 on changing the name of manholes to something else. You have to listen the episode to find out. And then we get to the fitness portion of this episode. First question was, can you activate a muscle by flexing it before compound lift? So if you're one of those people that can't feel a muscle that you're trying to work on a compound lift, just flexing it beforehand, help.
Starting point is 00:02:20 The next question, this person wants to know the difference in both physical differences and cognitive differences between open chain and closed chain movement. So an example of a closed chain movement would be a push-up, and the counterpart open-chain version would be a bench press. What are the differences in muscle building fat loss and in performance? Next question, this person wants to know if it's normal for their joints to hurt after they work out.
Starting point is 00:02:48 This person's knees and shoulders tend to hurt the day after they work out. Is that normal? Is that something that we should all experience or are the things they can do to prevent that like solve the root cause maybe? Yes. And the final question, this person wants to know
Starting point is 00:03:01 what our thoughts are on Peloton and VR compatible fitness type products. So we talk all about the technology and our predictions as to whether or not this is going to blow up even more or fizzle out like a lot of. So I'll bring this up. Pouring again. That's again. Thanks, Justin. Also, this month maps anywhere our no equipment needed workout plan,
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Starting point is 00:03:50 Let's start out like talking like Valley girls. Valley girls. Oh my God. That is totally cool. Where are we? Now, as Valley, the Valley girls originate from the bait like from California. Like I don't. It is. It is. It is, so Valley.
Starting point is 00:04:06 LA is considered about. Hellier. Hellier. Do people still talk like that? Yeah, like, anyway. Anyway. So annoying. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:15 So annoying. Just wait till we have a teenage girls. Oh, you got, none of you guys are gonna have a, no, I'm the only one. Doug and I are the only one blessed. Oh, you and Doug. Doug's already got happening now, man. You know what though?
Starting point is 00:04:25 We're the only ones that are gonna have kids that are gonna take care of us in the world. That's what kids or girls do for their parents. That's the stereotype I'm just curious. That kids is. It's the stereotype. I think I'm that guy for our family. Are you?
Starting point is 00:04:37 Yeah. Pretty sure the responsibility to take care of my mom. No, my family's always like, you have to have a girl because through the ones that take care of you and to go to the old one, I'm like, excuse me. Dad. Hello. I love people too. And he's like, I'm not dad have a girl because through the ones that take care of you and to go to the old one, I'm like, excuse me. Dad. Hello.
Starting point is 00:04:46 I love people too. And he's like, I'm not dad, huh? Do you feel like that? And you're feeling like you would be the guy who takes care of your parents? I don't know. I mean, I would, sure. If they needed it.
Starting point is 00:04:55 Yeah, absolutely. Well, do you have four of us though? Well, I know, but when you look at the four, is it like, I feel like your brother's least likely. I'm probably the most capable at this point. Right. So you see the proximity thing for me, like I'm closer, my brother like did the move
Starting point is 00:05:10 where he's like is far away. Yeah. Oh, I would love to help, but I can't. Oh, totally, I can't be there. I just feel like guys are more likely to be like, yeah, I'll take care of your mom and dad. I just put a down payment on you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:22 Whereas girls like come live with us. That is a guy move, dude. Oh yeah, retirement home. Plus, I don't be good. Whereas girls like come live with us. That is a guy move dude. Oh yeah, retirement home. Plus I don't even go. I'm gonna be honest with you. I don't know if my mom would want to, like if my mom had to choose between moving in with me and moving in with my sisters.
Starting point is 00:05:35 I don't know if she'd choose me because she would probably think to herself like, I'm just gonna have to like clean up after. I'm not acting. I get a good hold for this. Exactly. So she probably would have. Now, is this true for you?
Starting point is 00:05:48 I know Justin I think can probably relate to me on this one. There's only, how many days can you be with like your parents? Like in a row. Can you go for weeks in no big deal and like you look into it? Oh, before I get annoyed. Yeah. Oh, I don't know. I don't know if there's, I can always hang out with that guy.
Starting point is 00:06:03 I'm gonna say five days max. Oh, you can make five days. That's maybe. That's pretty solid. Maybe. That's pretty solid because there's not very many trips where you probably have to be anywhere with your family or your parents. Well, that's only when we actually vacation.
Starting point is 00:06:13 We vacation with them a few times, but usually it's like they have their own thing over there and then we have our own thing over here. I would think it would be even more challenging when you have kids, right? So like I've thought a lot about this. Like, yeah, it's not that, you know, I have a couple days, that's about it, that's my peak, where I'm like, okay, two days. Yeah, two days, right?
Starting point is 00:06:31 Yeah, two days, right? But I haven't thought about it until now that I have kids, like, you know, and I've got family around all time now. And of course, everybody has their opinion on how you should do everything like that. And I'm not used to that. And so it's like, that's interesting. Like what that's's gonna be like,
Starting point is 00:06:45 you know, as he starts to grow and I have to make harder and harder decisions for him or disciplining our way or what, like how much will my- Oh, and it's surprising too. I think for me, I was surprised how helpful my parents were, like more so than I would even anticipate. That's how I'm feeling right now.
Starting point is 00:07:00 I'm actually pleasantly surprised that, and you guys know me, I've openly talked about one of the challenges that Katrina and I had and the relationship was the family stuff. Like, there's so much of it. It's like, they get together always. I mean, everybody's actually at my house right now. So, and there's always an event.
Starting point is 00:07:19 There's always a reason for the entire family to get together and it was always challenging for me. But I have to say, and I thought, like, oh God, here we go, I'm gonna have the sun, and then everyone's gonna be at the house, and I'm gonna get annoyed, and I have not been annoyed at all. It's been amazing, it's been incredible
Starting point is 00:07:34 to have the support of, especially her family. My family too though, I mean, my sister's been, it was amazing having my sister with us. Having kids tends to change the relationship, or at least your perspective on family. Like people will move away from their family when they kind of become independent. Like, if they grew up in one city,
Starting point is 00:07:52 they wanna move out or move away, I should say. And then when they have kids, they tend to want to live near family. So it just changes perspective. Oh, it makes sense because when I think now too, like when Katrina goes back to work and I'm back to working full time, like, you know, I'd much rather him be in the hands
Starting point is 00:08:12 of a grandma or an aunt or an uncle or cousin opposed to a daycare. So if I have that option, I know some families don't. I know that some people are in a situation where they don't live near family. And because we do, that I definitely see the value in that. Now, here's a question for you.
Starting point is 00:08:29 Are you gonna be a spanking? Like, are you gonna do the spanking for? So I subscribe to the Jordan Peterson type of mentality, as far as how that, I think there's a lot of value in spanking. Now I don't think there I don't think it's good to you know I don't want to be that I won't be the father who my son does something while I'm at work and then when I come home he's in his room waiting to get beat by me like I was like that that was something that I grew up with and that whatever
Starting point is 00:09:00 I turned out fine but I do see value in these younger years of getting ready to touch something that's hot or do something that's when I'm catching him in the moment and whacking him on the button saying no, and catching him like that. Like a correction. Yes, so I will be someone like that that uses that. Now who else is allowed?
Starting point is 00:09:22 So here's a good question. Who else is allowed to explain? You're going to the deep question. There's a notice of a couple. I allowed? So here's a good question. Who else is allowed to spend? You're going for the deep question. There's a, there's a couple of. No, nobody. It's a big nobody. Not even, not mom, not sister. Oh my mom.
Starting point is 00:09:32 Of course, that's my mom. Katrina, Katrina and I, nobody else. Nobody else. No, not sister, not mom. No, no, no. As a sister and cousins and grandparents, you're there to love him and support him. Now they can punish if they're watching them, but just no spanking.
Starting point is 00:09:47 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll be the one to make, because I want to be the one who makes that judgment call on, was it warranted or not? And I don't want to have to go back and undo anything or correct what I think that they made a misjudgment on. So better than not do it and I'll handle any sort of spanking. Because again, I see it. It's my family.
Starting point is 00:10:06 I grew up all older relatives could spank me. If you were relative, it's all your game. Oh, it's true. My grandparents could, my aunts and uncles could. The older cousins couldn't, depending on how much older, if they were a lot older, they could. So it was like, if they were relatives and they were older, they could give us a good. Yeah, now I give it the same way, open season on my ass.
Starting point is 00:10:27 You know, say that. There was a lot of that. There was like, yeah, there was a fucking wooden spoon that hung in the kitchen that was for spanking. Like you just grab that, he's acting up, you grab that, whoop the shit out of him when he, trust me, he'll stop. Well, back in the day, that was,
Starting point is 00:10:39 it was culturally, that's what it was. Teachers used to spank, you know? And if you were an adult and a kid acted up, and you know, if you were especially in a position of authority, you were encouraged like spank the kid. And I don't, nobody's allowed to touch my kids. I think I've spanked my kids a grand total of two times
Starting point is 00:10:55 to be honest with you. And it's very difficult. That's the thing I did not, realizes that when I, when I had them and I did spank them a couple times, I didn't realize how terrible it would feel. It was horrible. Still to this day, it still sticks with me just to,
Starting point is 00:11:10 just and it was like a little spank on the butt that scared them or whatever. Yeah, I think for shock and off purposes, I don't know how many times those moments will happen. I doubt there's going to be many of those, but when that comes, I think I will. But if he does something like at school and he comes home, like, I won't spank him, that'll be a talk, like we'll talk about that.
Starting point is 00:11:27 Like, sit down. Yeah, that's a good handful of moments. And it really is just about the noise and the psychology going into it. Like, you know, I usually, what I've done with it when there's moments like that, I'll wait. I'll have them go in their room and wait and like make them them wait extra long.
Starting point is 00:11:45 So it's like, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the you know, everybody has their own style, so that's my style. Dude, I'll tell you what, man, old school Italian moms, holy, like my mom, I don't know how she was able to do this, but her accuracy with her shoe was, Olympic level, like insane.
Starting point is 00:12:21 I'm not even lying. Wow. She would, my brother especially, Eddie Murphy standing. Oh, dude. Like, and I'm not even lying. Wow. She would my brother especially the Eddie Murphy standout dude Like and I'm not even like my brother was it. I mean, I'm not gonna sugarcoat this He's a good person. Okay grew up to be a great person terrible kid though terrible kid used to break shit hit his sisters Just always got into shit climb the outside of the stairs once when he was little was hanging by his fingertips with Caught him barely almost killed himself I just terrible you know broke things or whatever and so she would go grocery shopping with us and there were
Starting point is 00:12:51 You know four of us right so my youngest sister was the baby me and my sister were older and then my younger brother and She you know if you've ever gone grocery shopping or done anything with kids you know how much more difficult It could be especially when they're mobile imagine four kids ever gone grocery shopping or done anything with kids, you know how much more difficult. It could be especially when they're mobile, imagine four kids. So we would be groceries, my brother would fucking run down the aisles, just knocking shit off the shelf, or he'd like run up to someone and push him, just randomly. So once my mom lost her shit, she took her shoe off and she flung it across the grocery store and hit him in the butt.
Starting point is 00:13:24 And everybody looked at my mom like, she was as terrible. So, and I remember as a kid thinking like, is she gonna throw the shoe at those people, too? They better chill, because my mom will fuck watch out. So, hilarious story. So this just happened this last, this last week and I had my buddy Justin and Janet over they have the one month, one month or one year, three month old son Hunter, who you've seen me post on my Instagram before,
Starting point is 00:13:51 love them, the Godfather, love the kid. And he's now learning words. Like so he's starting to piece a couple words together and stuff. And Justin always, whenever he like, Hunter comes over and like hits him with a toy or that just, ow, ow, she makes a big deal with it at so one of the words he's learned is out And then last week in there they're in the grocery store and they're walking and he just added nowhere goes out
Starting point is 00:14:12 Like everyone turned around and look at him like like they were bad They said they got their like face turned like ghost white like He's on the phone CPS It was the most awkward feeling ever because there's, there's son and an outward decides to yell out. And people turn around, like right away, or looking at him, like, what are you doing?
Starting point is 00:14:31 You're a kid in the grocery store. Well, you'll sit there and try and teach your kid a word. Just try as hard as you can. They won't do it. You'll say fuck one time. Yes. And that's their new word, or whatever. My buddy's friend, excuse me, my friend's kid,
Starting point is 00:14:44 the first thing he ever said was, fuck yeah. And that's all he said afterwards. Fuck yeah, fuck yeah, fuck yeah. And people are like, don't laugh, don't react to it. I was like, you can't laugh. They love it. You see, if two-year-old's saying, fuck yeah, that's the fuck he's the order of life. Dude, just wait.
Starting point is 00:14:58 So Ethan, I believe my oldest, we were at, what's that sandwich place, Panera Bread? And we're going up to order something in line and there was this like, really morbidly obese lady there. And like, he just realized, like, he just figured out, like I think he was like two or maybe even, yeah, I think he was like two. And he just, he just like had to point out that she was fat and like, tell us about it.
Starting point is 00:15:22 Like, right, we're standing there right to order, yeah. Like, you're fat. You tell us about it. Like right, we're standing by. They're right to order, yeah. Like you're fat. You know that? I'm like just turn ghost white. I didn't know how to react to that. I was like, he's, you know, I don't know. And then I just left. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:37 I didn't know the same. You're fucking about getting my order. We're going to tell those now. I'm not, I'm not staying here. You're combining the two. You're fat. Fuck yeah. Fuck yeah. Let's leave. Let's get out of here. You're combining the two, you're fat. Fuck yeah. Yeah, fuck yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:46 Let's leave. Let's get out of here. Yikes. Anyway, I wanted to mention this. I don't know, I'm not forget to mention this on the podcast, because four-sigmatic, who's one of our sponsors, they do the supplements that are all mushroom based. They picked us out of only a couple of the podcasts.
Starting point is 00:16:02 I think it was us and a couple more to offer this particular discount. So they have, they're putting the, they're only the good ones. But yeah, which is kind of cool, right? Feels kind of good, right? So it's 25, 25% off. There's four-sigmatic coffee,
Starting point is 00:16:16 plus our additional 15% off. So you can get 40% off of their four-sigmatic coffee, which is their coffee blend with the mushrooms. Oh, wow. Yeah, yeah. And that's one of the most popular products. Yeah, and who is it? Was it you Adam or you, Justin?
Starting point is 00:16:30 No, I like the coffee. Yeah, because I'll mix it with regular coffee. Yeah. So it does do well with that. So if you already like coffee, and I kind of doctor my coffee up a little bit with cream, and then I throw that in there, a dad I like. Yeah, so it's got the mushrooms offset,
Starting point is 00:16:43 the caffeine, I should say augment the caffeine to give you kind of that clean energy buzz, which for if you don't like the shakiness that caffeine can provide, it's a good thing too, to kind of take the edge off so it makes it more focus. I also heard Rachel said, I thought I heard it tell you too, that if you do like their bundle or what about that, that you get the free shipping too,
Starting point is 00:17:03 so you can get 40% off plus in addition to that, if they buy a bundle. Yeah, that's huge, that's a huge blowout sale. Yeah. And I feel honored that one, one of the first ones, the only podcast that they gave that to. They love you. Yeah, what are you gonna do?
Starting point is 00:17:15 I, they send me free court of steps all the time. I got you like, yeah, I love it. I use it all the time. Do you guys see the article on the women's US soccer team? You know they want it. Oh, they're back. Dude, they are such bad-ass. You're such bad-ass.
Starting point is 00:17:29 I love watching that. So they actually trained around their menstrual cycle. They actually, I think I believe it's a coach of the trainer, one of them actually found out all their menstrual cycles and then they would have shot. Did they all line up? Did they all line up and have like this cycle? That I don't know if they did, because that you sound to spell that myth. Yeah. all their menstrual cycles and then they would have shot. Did they all line up? Did they all line up and have like this cycle?
Starting point is 00:17:45 That I don't know if they did, because that, that, that you, that you spelled that method. Yeah. I thought that was true that when you get a bunch and then that does happen sometimes. Well, so evolutionarily speaking, you can make an argument for it, right?
Starting point is 00:17:56 Because, you know, you would want all the women in the tribe. It's just coincidence, right? Well, yeah. So it's like, you ever been parked behind someone who has their left blinker on and you put your left blinker on and there's a faster than yours. Oh, they start simultaneously. Even though they're, yeah, it it's like you've ever been parked behind someone who has their left blinker on and you put your left blinker on and they're just faster than yours simultaneously Yeah, even though they're yeah, it starts to sync up eventually if you give enough time and then so and that's when people tend to pay attention when things all match or whatever
Starting point is 00:18:14 But anyway, so how did they change their workouts? I don't know what that just the intensity based off of it So you know knowing like where they're at in their cycle on like how intense they should be training based off that. So based on their end recovery and shit. So they adjusted. Perfect sense. Interesting. Ah, I thought that was... It makes perfect sense. If you look at a woman's natural cycle where the, you know, with the progesterone and estrogen
Starting point is 00:18:34 rising and dropping, it makes sense to... Not at the end of the day, you have to also listen to the person, right? But that definitely makes sense to adjust intensity, train harder when hormones are in position to provide better results when they're harder, to lay off the intensity when maybe inflammation is up a little higher because of hormones. That's right. That's right. Makes perfect sense.
Starting point is 00:18:58 That's right. I see us getting better overall in terms of programming, like figuring out how to add the right dose of stress. People are really learning how to manage stress a little bit more effectively. I think two of these wearables and tools have really helped kind of enhance that as well. Well, I feel like we're just barely figuring that out
Starting point is 00:19:13 the importance of adjusting intensity. I think it was like believed for a long time that more is better and just the harder you get after it, the more result you get. I think it's that slowly being dispeled and more and more people are realizing the importance of adjusting it. Yeah, the breakthrough will be when we have an accurate way of, in real time, measuring
Starting point is 00:19:34 that for each individual, because like we're talking about women in their hormone fluctuations, what Trumps that always is the, you know, their own individual, you know, energy levels and how they feel, because your hormones may, maybe they're supposed to be in this ideal situation for whatever type of training, maybe you're at, you know, day 15 of your cycle and whatever, but maybe you feel like shit, or maybe they'll work out before, if that's a certain way, or your sleep was off,
Starting point is 00:20:00 or whatever, then that's what you need to listen to. So when they have something that can measure that that like real time, that'll be crazy. Do you remember when we talked to Dr. Andy Galpin about this too, where he was making the argument too though, that there's some value in when it isn't most ideal for you to stress yourself like that occasionally. Do you remember that? When it's not ideal? Yeah, so I'll give you example.
Starting point is 00:20:23 Yet yesterday I trained and I had a phenomenal workout and I almost stayed home because I probably should have because I didn't get really good rest I was kind of groggy. I Wasn't in a caloric sort of place to what you're saying. Yeah, but I was like, you know what? I was like I haven't done this in a long time. I took a pre workout, right? So I added even more probably stress that I didn't need to get through it because I'm me it was like, okay, I need to get back into my consistency. And I ended up having this phenomenal workout. Now, I'm smart enough to know that if I was having back-to-back-to-back days, like that most certainly would not be ideal. But there's got to be some sort of value in the occasional stress, like that. Yeah, right. Doing that to that to the body well I believe same thing was like being sleep deprived. Yeah on some level like it might actually help you know in terms of like stretching you out
Starting point is 00:21:10 That's why I was right in that sense, right? Well because you're healthy. You're a healthy person You know how to eat right you know how to train and you nine out of ten times you listen to your body You've been doing this long enough What happens when you're sleep deprived or stressed is cortisol's higher and cortisol's as an energy hormone. And that's happened to me many times where sometimes I work out and I go into the gym to go after it when I'm tired or when I'm under a certain amount of stress. And I find that I'm stronger and I have more energy. Now if you push it too hard, that'll cause problems. And doing it consistent. Right, but that's what cortisol does. And that's why cortisol is addicting.
Starting point is 00:21:45 Yeah. That's why you have all these people that push their body over and over again, because they get that buzz and that good feeling. I did one of my, I mean, the day, literally, it was either the day after or it was like a couple days after, I, my ex-wife and I decided, like for sure, we're getting a divorce. Very stressful time for, I hit up, it's a PR and deadlift, I'll never forget, I went to the gym and I was lifting, which was just bolstered my confidence.
Starting point is 00:22:08 I made the right decision, whatever. Yeah. But I am powerful. That bitch. Yeah. All that weight. This is a sign. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:19 That weight off my shoulders. Oh my God. No, but looking back, I know what it was. It was that my cortisol was high. I was stressed and cortisol is a stress energy producing hormone. That's why we get it when we get stressed out because it releases energy. Now, if you're constantly exposed to it, fucks you up.
Starting point is 00:22:37 That's why I think like most people like shouldn't even be concerned with that because the battle is to you know, fight that already. You're already constantly fighting that, being sleep deprived, being overly stressed to begin with. Anyway. So do you guys want to hear something really crazy? You're gonna fucking love this shit.
Starting point is 00:22:55 So the US House of Representatives approved a 2020 defense bill, right? So they're gonna approve. This is what you're gonna, and they do this every year. This is your, you know, we're gonna approve the amount of money we're gonna spend on defense. But they added an amendment to it. And the amendment says if it's forcing the government
Starting point is 00:23:16 to reveal whether or not they weaponized ticks and other insects between 1950 and 1975. Oh my God. And then release them into the wild. What? That's right So the so they did find that the that the military did conduct experiments with ticks and insects where they weaponized them But they are saying to them now listen before you get your budget We want to see did you guys and we want to see all the evidence and all the records. Can they trace the lime?
Starting point is 00:23:47 I'm sorry, good. Go ahead, go ahead. Can they trace lime disease all the way back to that one island that they found in the East Coast? Oh, I don't know, I don't know. But I mean, could you, I mean, imagine if they came back and they're like, yeah, we weaponized them and then we released some of these motherfuckers into the,
Starting point is 00:24:00 into the wild. Dude, this is crazy. We're getting my conspiracy like cackles up right now. Now by, you're a teda, by weaponized, I'm assuming you mean like they put some sort of toxin in and that would cause some sort of either disease or sickness that you would get if they were to bite you or something that like they didn't like strap on
Starting point is 00:24:16 M16s on there. Yeah. Yeah. Pity to do. Little ow. Like, Ant-Man is going through my head right now, you know what I'm saying? We designed, oh my god. Super microscopic guns.
Starting point is 00:24:28 What's your plan over there? Oh. You're a Brad? Okay, I got an idea, so we're going to take out the Soviet Union. We make small guns. Never make that Brad in charge. Yeah. No, but fucking crazy, right?
Starting point is 00:24:40 So they actually added this amendment, and it says in it, like, if you want your money, you're going to let us know if this shit was released out in the wild. If you guys weaponized these fuckers and put them out in the wild. And could you imagine if they did? Now here's the thing. Here's what I always say.
Starting point is 00:24:54 It's like, that's a horrible sign. It's like imagine, you need a haystack. No, not even that. Imagine getting a bunch of people and being like, okay everybody, you tell us if you broke the law or not, okay, you guys admit it, did you?
Starting point is 00:25:08 No, okay, no problem, use your money. You know what I'm saying? Like, we want you to investigate yourself. So my prediction is this, the report's gonna come back and they're like, yeah, we didn't do anything wrong. That's what you're gonna say. Who's gonna, you know what I'm saying? Or waste a tax dollar.
Starting point is 00:25:21 Yeah, anyway. But crazy though, nonetheless. That's scary. So know what I'm saying? Or waste a tax dollar. Yeah, anyway. But crazy though, nonetheless. That's scary. To know that they actually work. And that's the thing with during the Cold War, because the world, literally the whole world was at risk. You had two superpowers with more nukes than we knew what to do with pointed at each other, ready to be launched.
Starting point is 00:25:43 So of course, imagine if you're in charge of the defense of the country, we're sitting in this room and we're like, look, here's a deal. If there's a nuclear war, everybody's extinct. So you're putting, there is nothing that doesn't sound crazy. Nothing sounds crazy. Like someone can be like, hey, you know what we need to do? We need to make a virus that kills everybody. And you're gonna be like, you know what,
Starting point is 00:26:00 sounds like a good idea because, fuck, I don't know, you know what I'm saying? Can you look up, Doug, maybe that island on the East Coast, I swear there's been all these like crazy conspiracies that came out of like all these biological type weapons and things that they've been messing around with, viruses, all these things that are all like centered around this one place.
Starting point is 00:26:20 And it's like, you look at the trace back like Lyme disease, you could trace it all the back like from the East coast from not mistaken. But yeah, it's just like all these like random things came out of there. Plum Island. Yeah. Plum Island is about French conspiracy theory
Starting point is 00:26:35 or government cover or government cover it. You know what sucks is when when conspiracy theories turn out to be kind of like true. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? That's when it does suck. Because then you're like, okay, these crazy people are on to something. Yeah, well, you know why it sucks?
Starting point is 00:26:50 Because then you start to believe all the crazy conspiracy theories. Yeah, it's hard to sift through them at that point. Oh, totally. Yeah, because then do we glano the moon? Yeah. Now, the worst one that I heard a long time ago, which actually turned out to be true, was that the joint chiefs of staffs also even signed off on this, okay?
Starting point is 00:27:12 It was the president that actually declined to do this. I think it was Kennedy if I'm not mistaken. But this was during the time of the Cuban Missile Crisis, so we have Cuba over there, and the Soviets are putting missiles over there, so it's in our backyard or whatever. And the plan was, and it was Operation Northwood. And by the way, this is a real deal plan. It was, they, didn't they make a movie or a documentary over there?
Starting point is 00:27:36 I don't know, but it was a, it was a real plan signed off again by the Joint Chiefs of Staff. And the plan was to do a, to stage a terrorist attack in Miami and blame Cuban terrorists to gain public support to invade Cuba. Because we wanted to invade Cuba, we need public support. How are we gonna get it? Oh, they attacked us.
Starting point is 00:27:58 And we were the ones that were ourselves. And then blame it on them. Oh my God. Right. Now, imagine reading this shit after September 11th. That just pulled the fuck out of that whole thing. And then you wonder why people's first thought is like, maybe there was some shenanigans involved.
Starting point is 00:28:12 Oh, crazy, right? It's tough because it's like, you don't wanna believe it because then you see something like that where you're like, what? That's even a thought process that our government has. Now here's what always, now it didn't go through, it didn't happen, of course. And again, remember at that time,
Starting point is 00:28:26 everything was on the table because of the danger of everything. But here's the way I look at it. When I look at these big conspiracy theories, I always think to myself like, hmm, the government can barely run the DMV. I don't know how the hell they plan. Yeah. Some of these elaborate, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:28:41 Like these elaborate. They got off with the Manhattan Project. What's that? You know what I mean? Oh, that was like when they were building that atomic bomb. Yeah, that's how we created the first atomic bomb. And so what they did is they made sure like only this one department was in charge of like a certain component.
Starting point is 00:28:57 And so they didn't like share information. And they made sure like you didn't know the whole piece of the story. Yeah, well, I mean, they did. But then of course somebody got in and freaking stole the whole know the whole piece of the story. Yeah, well, I mean, they did, but then of course, somebody got in and freaking stole the whole thing and took it to the show. I get why you guys like stranger things so much and make sense now that I'm watching
Starting point is 00:29:12 and like all these other conspiracy of that. Oh, so good. Right, I can't wait you guys didn't bring this up to me when you guys were going through it because I'm on season two right now. I know three just came out and Kai greens in it. Do you not remember that? Yeah, it was a bad guy.
Starting point is 00:29:26 I don't even remember that. He's part of the, can you remember when she finds her sister, number eight, right? Eight. She's running with like a little crew and they rob banks. That's right. Right, right, right, that. He's part of that crew.
Starting point is 00:29:37 I forgot about season two. I was, he said no, do you know what I'm saying? I'm still in season two. I know, but I'm like, when you guys just talk about stranger things when you guys were all into it and I'm like, I can't, I watch again. Yeah, and it comes up but I'm like, when you guys are talking about stranger things when you guys were all into it, and I'm like, I can't, I watch again. Yeah, and it comes up and I'm like,
Starting point is 00:29:48 Kai Green's in this. That's it. I remember that. I knew that he, I knew he was talking about trying to get in the movies. I didn't know he was already in a flick. That's great. Dude, speaking of Kai Green,
Starting point is 00:29:59 you know, Sean Rodin, not allowed to compete in the, you know, he won the Olympia last year, right? He was Mr. Olympia, a dethroned Phil Heath or whatever. Right. They're not letting him compete this year. Huh? He didn't know about this?
Starting point is 00:30:11 No. Oh, I love it when I bring up some shit. So because he's getting taken to, I think he's getting taken to court because a woman is saying he raped her. What? Yeah. Apparently, now he hasn't improved in, you know, guilty, he hasn't proven guilty.
Starting point is 00:30:25 They haven't gone to court or all that, but they said because he got accused and because he's going to court. See, how do you guys feel about that? We supposedly are come from this, you know, you're innocent until proven guilty. But you see a lot of situations like this that as soon as you, as soon as been said, like, and I'm not defending the guy because I have no idea whether he did or he didn't and it's a terrible, terrible, if he did. That's a loaded question, because I mean,
Starting point is 00:30:52 this is one of those things now where you see people, they just want to crucify some before they even get all the facts. Like you see that happen a lot and it's tough. But we also live in a time now where, even if it comes out, it was totally bullshit. It doesn't, you're fucked. Yeah. It's already something like that.
Starting point is 00:31:09 Because there's sometimes it does, it's not often, but sometimes it does come back that it was, there was one guy who got released at a prison. He was in jail for 10 years because it got discovered that the woman who accused him, lied. Yeah. She made it all up and then she admitted it
Starting point is 00:31:23 and then he got released 10 years later. How fucked up as that, but here's the thing. It's kind of worms to talk about for sure. Yeah, you're 100% right that we live in a time now where you're guilty until proven innocent now, rather than innocent until proven guilty, and that's exactly why they can't, they won't let them compete. Because if they let them compete, now they're bad. Now they're the ones getting all the heat and they're a private money making organization and I understand they don't want that kind of heat on them.
Starting point is 00:31:52 You know what I mean? They don't want to look like okay we you know we're gonna you know step back. Wow when did this get announced? I can't believe it didn't see this. This was like maybe a couple of weeks ago. A week ago. And for sure he's not allowed to come back and... Not this year or no. Wow. So it opens it up for Phil, there it is, see. He's who's charged with rape and so his eligibility was revoked. Wow.
Starting point is 00:32:13 So he's investigating it right now? Yeah, he hasn't been charged. He hasn't been proven yet, proven one way or another. So now it's open, right? Phil Heath, and some people are thinking Ky Green might come in back in and it might be like Ky Green versus Phil Heath. You know.
Starting point is 00:32:29 Oh, interesting. Didn't, honey move on from Phil or is he still coaching Phil? I thought I saw him pick up somebody else. I don't follow those guys enough anymore. I have no idea. I don't have a world anymore, but I could have sworn after.
Starting point is 00:32:42 Definitely don't know. Yeah, I know you don't know. I have no idea. I'm not up on my honey I know you don't know. I have no idea. I'm not up on my honey. You probably don't even follow any of his accounts. Yeah, I know he's got hottie, right? So that's one of his guys. And then I thought he did,
Starting point is 00:32:55 because hottie is the 210, right? Isn't that what he did? Yeah, I think so. Right, so he's got hottie and then I think he got somebody else. But I guess I still see him here with Phil. He's so maybe he is still with him. I have no, speaking of conspiracy theories, so maybe he is still with Phil. I have no idea.
Starting point is 00:33:05 Speaking of conspiracy theories, do you guys know that face swap app that we used? Yes. Which is, it was awesome, right? Great app or whatever. Oh, did he do a great job with it? Apparently, it's a Russian-owned company. And did you guys read the disclaimer on it?
Starting point is 00:33:23 Of course not. Of course, nobody does. Apparently in the disclaimer, they get to take all your photos. You, they get to go into all your photos and everything in your phone, not just the ones you change, but everything that's in your phone.
Starting point is 00:33:35 And they have rights to use them for whatever they want, whenever they want, forever. Wow. That's so cool. Yeah, good job. You know, Russians. Yeah, but now here's a deal Here's a deal. But here's what a lot of people are saying
Starting point is 00:33:48 They're probably not gonna do necessarily anything with your photos other than use them Well other than use them to bolster or strengthen or work on their AI Face recognition technology because now what they can do is cross reference photosference those photos. Now they have like a 400 photos of your face. They can cross-reference that with your face photo. Everybody with that. Like at least 150 people that are like live on Instagram and are like influencers like,
Starting point is 00:34:16 every but- 150 million people downloaded it. Oh my God. 150 million. Million. Wow. Yeah. But it's again a Russian owned company
Starting point is 00:34:24 and everybody's like, now everybody's, I deleted it. See, I always find it too late. I'm more in my dream. It's funny. That's stuff, I'm like, whatever about it. I think it's very interesting to me that like something that someone creates gets 150 million people like overnight.
Starting point is 00:34:35 Yeah, well, they did such a good job. It was like, I mean, it was believable when you'd went to the old filter, you're just like, it was trippy, how well they crafted that. Well, this is shame on us. I'm mad, I'm definitely pissed off, I'm not mad at the company, my fault. I should have read it. I know.
Starting point is 00:34:54 I should have looked into it and I should have understood that because the thing is this. It's too late. No, I'm gonna put it back. I mean, we're public personas, we have a podcast, I have your Instagram. You don't need to go on my personal
Starting point is 00:35:05 photos to do whatever you want with my face. You can do that anyway. And I don't own the photos I put on Instagram either, those are public, so whatever. But I have photos of family members and kids and my children. And I purposely, my own personal decision, I don't post public pictures of my kids,
Starting point is 00:35:21 but they have access now to all the photos that were on my phone. And that's my own fault. It's disturbing. Yeah, because I didn't read the frickin' fine print. And in the era of deep fakes and all that kind of stuff, it's going to get so weird in the couple of years, especially now. You could tell, I mean, they've already been trying to influence our culture by like adding all these fake accounts and messing with certain groups of, you know, like people
Starting point is 00:35:45 that are, you know, out like out there picketing and trying to like, it's crazy with what they've already been up to. It is. You want to hear another conspiracy now? Lay it on me. Just, just the love thing. Just the love thing. Just the love thing.
Starting point is 00:35:59 So you know that guy, Jeffrey Epstein, who got, now he's getting, he got arrested for child, he was arrested for child, it was like sex trafficking, whatever. And that whole deal, I don't wanna go all into it, but he's a disgusting human being, and he got off real easy a while ago. Now they're bringing him back in, apparently he's connected to like,
Starting point is 00:36:16 the richest, most powerful people in the world, politicians, celebrities. He has that one island, he would fly people to, and apparently he had underage sex workers there. And so there's conspiracies island he would fly people to and apparently had underage sex workers there. And so there's conspiracies that he would film them doing things with these underage sex workers and uses blackmail or whatever. So here's the other conspiracy.
Starting point is 00:36:34 The other conspiracy is this, is that they've been preparing us with these deep fakes so that when the video's surface of celebrities and politicians doing shit that they can use that as a defense and be like, oh, that's not me. So like, they've been setting us up the whole time because they knew, oh shit, this fucking lid's gonna get blown off.
Starting point is 00:36:52 And I'm talking like the most powerful, Paul, like Bill Clinton has been was chartered on his private plane to his private island, something like 26 times, and many of which were without the secret service, where Bill literally said, no, you guys stay behind, I'm going to go by myself, which is very, that's very like, what's going on there. Yeah, what are you up to?
Starting point is 00:37:14 But they're kind of prepping us with the whole deep fake shit. So that when it comes out, they can be like, no, this is deep. That's interesting, because it's funny. You would think that it would make it easier, right? But now that we have things like that, people are going to be just as easy to be able to get out of it, because they're going to be able to say, oh, that's CGI. Someone made that. How are you would think that it would make it easier, right? But now that we have things like that, people are gonna be just as easy to be able to get out of it because they're gonna be able to say like, oh, that's CGI, someone made that. How are you gonna prove it?
Starting point is 00:37:29 Yeah, right, I didn't really say that. That's something that's crazy. Yeah, well, they have to try as best they can to keep up with the counter technology that can spot and identify with somebody manipulating images and manipulating videos. It's just like, that's like gonna be a constant game that we're always gonna lose.
Starting point is 00:37:44 Oh, weird. Anyway, we were talking about Netflix and you were saying earlier Netflix is what's going on? Declining. They had the worst quarter they've had in eight years since they've started. I think they I think they lost like close to a quarter million subscribers or something like that. Now two things they attribute that that to one, they increase their rates. So you saw that I think they went up another $3 or whatever. So that happened that last quarter. And then also the Netflix originals that came out, just they didn't have any blockbuster hits, they just, this quarter stranger things, the third one came out, the orange is new black, that other one. And there's like three big ones that are coming out this quarter that they project that they'll rebound just fine.
Starting point is 00:38:30 But I don't know. Competitions heating up. Yeah, that's what I think. I think it's getting really competitive. And to me, it's, I don't know, I know you really like a lot of their Netflix original. I think it's hit and miss. I think they're spending a lot of money to get a couple hits. And so it's, I agree.
Starting point is 00:38:44 Because for every, I don't know, 10 that they release, those one that's good. Right, and so you have to ask yourself, like, is that sustainable to invest that much just to get one hit? And I'm back on to just like what, maybe a couple of months ago, I added the showtime and HBO,
Starting point is 00:39:01 and I tell you what, man, they've been doing their shit's fire. They have they have they've have a pedigree of writers. Yes, too. They're documentary and their movies, their stuff is they're all their original content is fucking fire. Yeah, so it's competitive and now they're and I forgot who was I think it was that was an apple. I told you guys out that was partnering with them that would offer. You know, if you have if you're doing Apple streaming service, then you would get HBO and show time for like a discounted rate.
Starting point is 00:39:29 But I only pay, I think, I think it's either 499 or 1099 a month for show time and HBO. And I find myself on as much or more on those two than I do even Netflix. It's, it's, look, they were the only show around for a while for that whole streaming, you know, monthly type service type deal. It's a competition. This is of course it's gonna happen. And that's why I'm not worried about anybody dominating the market and taking it all up when we need to be,
Starting point is 00:39:59 no, I'm not worried at all, you know, they'll crush for a while, whatever company comes out first, then other companies enter into the frame, compete, and we like to keep the choice. I have to keep the choice. If they're gonna last, I wonder if the model is like, I would think like you keep a really low, like, you know, $2.99 or $3.99 to have the app,
Starting point is 00:40:19 and then you do all a cart, $0.99 a show or something. Like if you love stranger things and it only cost you, I wonder if someone will figure that out, do something like that, keep it to where you can undercut everybody, right? Because where it's gonna get crazy is when you start getting all these are starting to cost 12, 99 to 29. Before you know it, now you're back up over
Starting point is 00:40:36 what cable was, right? If you have Alacart, what'll end up happening, I do think it's gonna get that way. I think it's gonna get to the point where it's gonna be Alacart and what Al a cart will encourage is writers. It'll encourage content creators to release their own product and make money really grab our attention.
Starting point is 00:40:55 Yep, you really have to do a good job. Now the platform may be like a YouTube where hosts and people create their own thing, but then you pay more to, I don't know, but I think it'll be all a card. I also wonder if Google Slash YouTube is gonna make a major power move in the next decade, or less than the decade, right?
Starting point is 00:41:13 This, because they've got the attention of a ton of people and they are the most brilliant, because they are using our content that we put all the money, the time, the effort in to the platform. They don't pay no but some. I wonder how their YouTube TV's doing. Because I mean, I definitely got sucked into the whole
Starting point is 00:41:29 Cobra Kai series, loved it. There's two seasons of that. And but that's it. That's all I'd even know. I really think what you see with them doing with things like that is really just kind of testing. That's just them kind of like putting their toe in the water just to feel it out and see what they got.
Starting point is 00:41:44 And because at the end of the day, again, they're probably the most profitable when you talk about all these putting their toe in the water just to feel it out and see what they got. Because at the end of the day, again, they're probably the most profitable when you talk about all these streaming services because they're rely on us to put the content out there. It doesn't cost them any money to do that. Where Netflix kills it, so does YouTube as kids. Netflix kills it with kids. They have a lot of content focused on, but Disney is going to be doing their own thing and it's going to murder them. YouTube, the child market, the kid market on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:42:09 Oh my. No video's got more views in the ones out. That's gonna say is a baby shark. Yeah, what does it even make sense? Oh, all the stuff for kids that gets views, destroys all the stuff that's dedicated. Now the thing is how valuable is it in terms of how you can market to them,
Starting point is 00:42:27 but they kill it. You can kill it. Oh, it's a long game. Are you kidding me? You're right. It's a capture them early. Yeah, you capture them early to a channel that they love and you get them at five
Starting point is 00:42:36 and you got them all the way till 15. You don't get them to buy one thing. You don't get them to buy shit for their lives. I'm so curious at some of these channels like because I've watched some of these YouTube channels with my kids, and one of them was like these two twin boys that they basically try out these Nerf guns, and then they have battles with them and stuff,
Starting point is 00:42:55 and all they do is just shoot each other with them, talk about it, and then they start adding more graphics as they've gotten more popular and stuff with it and they have all these wars. But it's like, how are they gonna grow up? You know, they have like all these toys now, like all over their house. Like there's so much there. It's like fame and popularity is very damaging to children.
Starting point is 00:43:18 100%. Believe in that. It's one of the main reasons why I'm very careful and protective of my kids because imagine being a kid and having all these followers, all these people, okay, look at us right now. Our mind pumps very public. We've had millions of people listen to us.
Starting point is 00:43:37 Imagine if you were a young kid with people saying, oh my God, I love you guys, I love this, whatever, you just develop a very distorted view of the world in a sense of ego, and that is a long fall. That is a very long fall when you're a kid and you grow up that way. So I think it's a terrible. Well, remember that show, like, where are they now?
Starting point is 00:43:55 The, all the, like, TV stars that were kids? Oh, they're all fucked up. Like, almost all of them. Oh, I feel like the 80 or 90% of them were like really fucked up. It's gonna be so interesting to have a show just like that, but with YouTube stars and YouTube kids, and like I wonder, like how messed up.
Starting point is 00:44:10 It'll be the same thing, right? It'll be the same thing. It's just, it's too, you peak way too early. Like you said. It's not even just about peaking. It's part of that, but the other part of it is, just again, imagine if you're a kid, and imagine if you're a parent of a kid,
Starting point is 00:44:23 and your kid has millions of followers followers and you're just their parent. They think that of them their sense of self becomes so loaded and distorted, so distorted, so terrible, you know. It's like they just get stuff, you know, it's just bizarre. It's like, you know what it's like, it's like the little prince that, you know, that grows up in the kingdom and everybody has to obey the prince and whatever, no piss them off. They end up becoming a tyrannical, terrible leader every single time. So, Jeffrey, right? Exactly.
Starting point is 00:44:50 Yeah. I love that I can reference things in the U.N. Yeah. Oh, no, that's happy. That fucking weirdo. Hey, more annoying news, Berkeley, here's how you know your tax dollars are wasted. The Berkeley government, city council, all got together, worked together, and all spent
Starting point is 00:45:10 hours and time in taxpayer dollars deciding to change the name of manholes to maintenance holes. What? They wanted it to be a... It has man. It's too masculine. Yeah. They wanted it gender neutral. So they so they stay.
Starting point is 00:45:25 This is the part that annoys me. If you think if you're if you're offended that something's called a manhole fine, you can be offended, but you're that's my tax dollars. Like if I lived in Berkeley, be fucking pissed that you wasted time. Hill, are you concerned about? Yeah, why are you wasting time in city council
Starting point is 00:45:40 talking about it? Legically, that's like, I don't know how many thousand dollars people and put their asses to work Oh, like they need to do hard laborist things. Yeah, it's Berkeley like is Berkeley a city where like everything's so perfect that they're sitting around Like we need to figure out what to do with this. Yeah, these tax dollars everything's so perfect. Yeah, let's start focusing on other shit You know, oh my god the fuck out here with that. Oh, this is out of control. Oh my head's gonna explode This clause brought to you by Organify. For those days you fall short on getting
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Starting point is 00:46:32 First question is from VMA Mr. Black. Can you activate a muscle by flexing it before compound lifts? That is the idea behind priming. Now here's the problem with just flexing a muscle before a lift. If you have a poor connection to a muscle, you have issues activating it.
Starting point is 00:46:50 It's harder to flex a muscle without any type of opposing resistance than it is to activate it with some kind of a priming movement or opposing resistance. Like you tell somebody with a poor connection to the glutes while they're standing relaxed, hey flex your glutes. Yeah, have fun.
Starting point is 00:47:06 Like, good luck. I've tried that at a party once, didn't go well. Yeah. When you flex your glutes, boom. But yeah, no. That is a party. Flexing, flexing a muscle is before a lift is what activates it.
Starting point is 00:47:20 Well, that's what resistance training is, flexion of the muscles with resistance. That's what resistance training is, flexion of the muscles with resistance. That's what resistance training is. All you're doing is you're flexing your muscles with adding resistance, whether it be body weight bands or dumbbells or barbells, that's exactly what it is. And it's also why some people struggle with getting developing your muscles
Starting point is 00:47:40 because they're not good at flexing it. And that's, it's actually one of the things I really enjoyed about like body building and that aspect of it is it really hones in that skill to be able to activate all these little muscles on your body. And then if you have the ability to do this, what's really cool too is if you can flex
Starting point is 00:48:02 an isolate a muscle or get close to isolating a muscle and then you go into a lift, you can flex an isolated muscle or get close to isolating a muscle, and then you go into a left, you can actually change the exercise, right? You can take an exercise that maybe more, that was designed for your rhomboids, and then it becomes more of a rear delt because just by you being able to focus on using that muscle and making that muscle take it over the moon.
Starting point is 00:48:24 Now, if people do this on accident all the time with things like squats, where they're so anteriorly driven that they end up feeling it in their quads, and it takes over the lift when they should be feeling their glutes. But part of why they don't feel it in their glutes very well is because they can't flex to its like styles point. They can't flex their glutes well. That's right. And so now, here's the thing. There's a little bit of controversy around priming. Like does it really increase activation of a particular muscle? If you took somebody who had no problems feeling a muscle working and then they did priming
Starting point is 00:48:54 before and then they had no issues with their chest activating. They have well-developed chest, it's very balanced, they feel it, and you had them doing chest priming movements and then go bench press. Is it gonna change the activation of the chest? Probably not. The reason why priming helps people activate muscles is mainly because it helps people who normally can't feel that muscle feel it.
Starting point is 00:49:16 Then when they do the lift, they know where they need to feel the lift and they can change the focus. So if I, you know, doing hip thrust, body weight, hip thrust, for example, a very classic basic way of priming the glutes before squat would be to do a body weight, you know, you know, maybe banded, hip thrust, floor bridge or whatever. Get the glutes to fire, then go do your squats. Is it going to make the glutes work more when doing squats? Yes, but not because it's anything magical about the floor bridge.
Starting point is 00:49:45 It's because the person who did the floor bridge who really felt the glutes squeezing, now when they go squat, they know where to feel it. Because it's an internal thing, isn't it? I mean, as a trainer, one of the techniques I would often do. Touch a muscle on someone. That's right.
Starting point is 00:49:59 That is not necessary. When I touch your glutes, it doesn't make more neurons fire there, but it gets you thinking about that muscle. Which is an external stimulus. Something that you actually feel and you respond to as a result. And if you can, I mean, the key is to really be able to intrinsically be able to do that yourself and really like navigate your way towards us.
Starting point is 00:50:19 Is there really debate around this? Yes, because there's studies that'll show like, oh, priming the quads before a lift doesn't cause more quad activation or priming the quads. And what do they use a whatchimacol machine? Well, they're probably using somebody that has no issues. They're probably using an experienced lift who has no issues. But when you're when I'm training a client that has they don't feel it like I don't feel on my lats, I feel my biceps, which is extremely common. Yes, getting them to activate their lats with like for example, another basic one
Starting point is 00:50:48 would be like a straight arm rope pull down and get them to squeeze their lats. Now when you do the pull down, now you know where you need to feel it, now you can change the technique a little bit in your mind. In fact, watching them, you might not even be able to tell. Sometimes, sometimes most of the time you can, but sometimes you can't, sometimes you watch them, and you're like, it looks the same, but the even be able to tell sometimes, sometimes most of the time you can, but sometimes you can't,
Starting point is 00:51:05 sometimes you watch them, you're like, it looks the same, but the person is able to connect more to the muscle that they're trying to focus on. And so that's what the priming does, that's what activating it does before, and again, as a trainer, I used to do this all the time,
Starting point is 00:51:18 now the way I would do it was either priming them, or I would touch the muscle while they're trying to work it, like you need to feel it right here and I put my finger on it. And if you can think of that right now, like, next time you go work out, have your gym partner or whatever, put their finger on the muscle you're trying to feel,
Starting point is 00:51:32 and then while they're doing that, now try to connect to that muscle, now that you have external stimulus. And watch what happens. It's funny, I used to, even like, when we're talking about compoundly, like doing just like a squat, I used to like, nudge some of my friends when they're down
Starting point is 00:51:46 in a squat, like warming up, and to see like if it would knock them off balance or if they would, you know, have proper stabilization, you know, from lateral forces. What a dick. Yeah. Did you get to your friends? Sometimes I topple them over.
Starting point is 00:51:58 That's why I didn't work out just now. But it does, it shows you how you respond. Yeah, it's another external stimulus that is like, okay, I gotta make sure everything's working. Now flexing, just standing there and flexing, theoretically would be a great way to do this. But again, the problem is, if I'm sitting here, let's say I have a poor connection to my lats.
Starting point is 00:52:18 Like I'm like, man, I do lap pull downs, I do pull ups, I do rows, and I just don't feel my lats at all. I feel it all in my traps or in my arms or whatever. And you tell me, okay, Sal, before you do a pull ups, I do rows, and I just don't feel my lats at all. I feel it all in my traps or in my arms or whatever. And you tell me, okay, Sal, before you do a pull down, flex your lats really hard. I'm gonna look at you like, I don't know how to do that. I obviously can't connect to my lats, I can't flex them.
Starting point is 00:52:36 Now if you give me a band and tie it over a pull up bar, and I do a straight arm pull down, where I'm really trying to squeeze the lats. Now because I have resistance, now I can'm really trying to squeeze the lats. Now because I have resistance, now I can start to connect more to the lats. This is why flexing before a lift to activate a muscle isn't great for anybody, aside from people who already have a good connection.
Starting point is 00:52:56 So if you're a body builder and you wanna feel these muscles work more and you already have a good connection, flexing beforehand is great. Right, great. Absolutely great. Now Arnold and bodybuilders of that era actually placed a lot of emphasis on flexing. It would actually pose.
Starting point is 00:53:11 In fact, that was part of Arnold's pre-contest workout. At the end of his workouts, weeks before a competition, when he's trying to get lean and feel the muscles flex and build definition, he would pose at the end of his workout sessions and he always said how it brought out more definition in his muscles. Now, I don't know if that's necessarily true. It does burn more calories and all that stuff, but besides from that, I think it brought out more definition
Starting point is 00:53:36 because an atom can attest to this, he competed. If you can flex some muscle better in a way to make it appear better, it's gonna look better on stage. Just 100%. So flexing would help with that. some muscle better in a way to make it appear better. It's going to look better on stage. So flexing would help with that. Next question is from Lyca Stranger. Can you expound upon the difference in stimuli physically and cognitively between open chain
Starting point is 00:53:57 and closed chain exercises? What are the pros and cons of each and should you stick to one or the other during the workout? Yeah, this is a great, really, really good question. We've been talking about this a little bit this month because maps anywhere is on sale. That's our program that doesn't use equipment. A lot of the exercises in there are what are known as closed chain movements. Closed chain movement, so I'll give you an example of an open chain and a closed chain movement
Starting point is 00:54:26 that are very similar. A push up is a closed chain chest movement. A bench press would be an open chain chest movement. Now the movement is similar, right? I'm pushing, I'm pressing out. Now with an open chain one, it's my hands that are pressing the weight out. With a closed chain, it're resisting the load versus yeah,
Starting point is 00:54:46 like you're using your body against gravitational. Right, so open chain is your hands or your feet are the things that are moving. Close chain is it's your body that's moving. And are there differences in them? Well yeah, absolutely. Close chain movements. Look, if you want body awareness, it's superior.
Starting point is 00:55:09 Just hands down. If you take a gymnast and you compare them to a weight lifter, I don't care how functional the weight lifter is, the gymnast in terms of body awareness, knowing where the body is in space, body control, balancing on their hands, climbing over things, jumping over things, you know, if you were to do things like parkour or wrestle
Starting point is 00:55:31 or whatever, the gymnast is gonna have an advantage of all things being equal. Well, many camps would say that this is where you should, most people should start. There's a lot of people that would say that, you know, before you even pick up a barbell or a dumbbell or do any sort of open chain movements that you should get good at your close chain movements first, because if once you have that good body control and awareness that that carries
Starting point is 00:55:53 over into getting, having good mechanics when you start doing open chain movements. Well, I subscribe to that too, because I mean, it's a very crucial part of programming to be able to teach your joints to feel supported. When you can go all the way through and like get them to function properly, but also like have your body feel like everything is, like, you know, your bracing is on point. Like I can make sure that like this force
Starting point is 00:56:21 is distributed properly. So now I can actually apply more force. I can get more intense. And I feel like we skip a lot of those steps when we jump into the open chain movements. Right. Now some of the benefits of open chain movements. In my opinion, there's superior for maximal muscle building. The angles that you can use, maximal muscle building. The angles that you can use, maybe there's more variety. There's a lot more novelty with the different types
Starting point is 00:56:51 of exercises. If you're a body builder, obviously, most of your workouts are gonna be open chain. But, you know, I'll say, here's what I'll say about both of these. Whichever one you do a lot of, there's a lot of value. I don't care what your goals are.
Starting point is 00:57:06 They both belong in your training. Yeah, and they both belong. They really do. No matter what your goal is, I really believe they both do. Whether it be a bodybuilder, because to your point, yes, for bodybuilding,
Starting point is 00:57:16 open chain makes more sense most of the time, but there's still a tremendous amount of value of doing close chain-ups. Well, the limiting factor with the open chain and bodybuilding becomes how big you are, right? It's hard to see a 250 pound bodybuilder do all these closed chain type movements, closed chain experts tend to be muscular,
Starting point is 00:57:37 but also have a body that they can manipulate. So they're not massive. Well, I think I feel like if they kept that, you know, on some level in programming, they would have been able to maintain a level of flexibility and abilities functional wise that, you know, they didn't really focus on otherwise. If they eliminated it completely out of their programming, then yeah, they're not going to be able to have that type of range of motion anymore.
Starting point is 00:58:01 It's going to limit their, you know, it's's gonna prune its way out of their movement process. Right, now squats and lunges, those are closed chain movements. Your feet aren't going anywhere. And those are great mass muscle builders, right? Those are some of the best around. I honestly, look, this falls under the category of, if you're not doing it then doing it
Starting point is 00:58:26 You're gonna start to see great results. Right regardless of what your goals are if your goal is burn body fat Build muscle and all and you do almost no You know body weight close chain type movements What do you think is gonna happen if you all of a sudden incorporate them or do them exclusively even you know just for a couple weeks Your body's gonna respond, it really is. I've seen this happen with friends of mine who were, I mean, they were into bodybuilding, they were into just building their body aesthetically
Starting point is 00:58:53 and then watch them devote three weeks to working on like rings and bars and stuff like that and watch their shoulders. And I see a lot of great shoulder development coming from some of these close chain movements, especially the ring movements. Some of my favorite exercises like this pull-ups and dips, great exercises. Well you see a lot more rotation and a lot more work in that direction. Like open chain movements, it's kind of tough to really add those those elements as much as you know doing
Starting point is 00:59:23 things with body weight. Yeah, isolation movements are superior, open chain, right? Right. It's hard to do a lateral, you know, close chain. Oh, yeah, totally. You know, I don't know. I don't know. How do you do that? I've seen people do that.
Starting point is 00:59:35 Yeah, you do it like a side plank move. I've actually seen people do some, oh yeah, yeah. Before you get to be super creative. Yeah, you have to be really strong to do that. No, no, you do. You do. You do absolutely. Some of the most impressive physiques and people I've ever met
Starting point is 00:59:48 were people that trained mostly body weight, just being quite, I'm being very honest. Well, you talk about another major pro is just the lower risk. When you talk about joint pain and just way less risk for injury, too. Your way, you're definitely increasing the risk by doing open chin bar, loading a barbell versus doing body weight movements. I think it depends how you apply it, right?
Starting point is 01:00:12 Because if you do a handstand pushups and that's a very high risk exercise versus a light dumbbell overhead press or whatever, it really depends on the movement and how you're doing it. Yeah, but somebody's not gonna progress to a handstand pushup before they can even do a handstand. Like, so you would already have good shoulder stability
Starting point is 01:00:33 before you would even consider doing a press in that position, so I don't... You're the same half the same 75 year old lady that you would grab five pound dumbbells and do a shoulder press with. You couldn't even put it into a handstand position. So if you can get into that position, I don't know, I'm trying to think of like really
Starting point is 01:00:47 risky body weight positions that you could potentially think. Well, what's interesting about that, too, when you're in that position when you're in a handstand, there's just so many factors of what has to work in order to stabilize that movement versus, yeah, like a shoulder press is not even going to compare to that because of how many intricate pieces have to stabilize your body and keep everything tight and, you know, from swing. Well, here's the other thing too that you might want to consider. Modern life, you're going to need the skill in terms of longevity.
Starting point is 01:01:22 You're going to need the skill of moving your body around more than you'll need the skill of moving of longevity, you're gonna need the skill of moving your body around more than you'll need the skill of moving objects around, I think, you know, so having body awareness, especially as you get older, I think it becomes much more important. Because you're not, I mean, what's the heaviest object, be honest, right? What's the heaviest object you move on a regular basis
Starting point is 01:01:41 in modern times, it's just south. How often are you lifting heavy things and moving around? If you don't go to the gym, it's just south. How often are you lifting heavy things and moving around? If you don't go to the gym, it's almost never. So being able to move your body and proprioception is something that's super undervalued. Proprioception is knowing where your body is in space, being able to turn and step and not twist your ankle or hurt your hip or being able to fall
Starting point is 01:02:04 but fall in a way that doesn't break something you know. Just those little micro adjustments that you need to avoid injury. Like that's such an important piece to the whole training process. Next question is from Giacelci. Is it normal for all my joints to hurt after I lift? I know there should be inflammation with my muscles and possibly my joints but I feel it mainly in my joints the day after, specifically my knees and shoulders. Could it be due to years of running track as a team?
Starting point is 01:02:32 Yeah, no, it's not normal for your joints, or at least it's to say it's not a good thing for your joints to hurt after you work out. Muscles, that's a totally different story. But if your joints are hurting you after you work out, you either are not moving properly. So your form is off. You don't have good connection or you're overdoing it. But the joints, here's the thing with your joints, you're not, the joints build and get stronger very slowly. So the goal is not to challenge your joints and make them sore like you would with your muscles, not at all. The other thing too is you may just have
Starting point is 01:03:11 a lot of inflammation in your body, in which case you still need to reduce the intensity of your workouts. I mean, how would you, how would you handle that with clients would they come back to you and be like, okay, my knee gets a little sore after we hit legs or whatever?
Starting point is 01:03:24 Well, you're addressed, you have to address their mechanics. I mean, what, when you get, and knee is common, like you hear this, in fact, I just answered a DM the other day, somebody saying this to me, and normally it's a limiting factor. If it's the knee that's bothering you, it's probably a limiting factor in ankle mobility or hip mobility, and then what ends up happening is the knee gets stressed. If you have great range of motion and great mobility, then the muscle should carry the load the entire way through up and down. And so it's a great indicator that there's something there to be worked on. And I think we just overlook it.
Starting point is 01:03:56 I think people just, it's just part of it. Or people avoid exercises. I don't know which is worse. To just say, oh, I can't squat because it hurts my knees, or to address this, address it and work towards it. I mean, you know that you got issues. That this is why we created Prime Pro, is we went through every major joint in the body,
Starting point is 01:04:15 and if you're having issues like that, then address mobility of them and work towards it. And you should get to a place where it won't, but it absolutely running track for many, many years could definitely have made this worse, but it doesn't mean it can't be fixed, it absolutely can be. Well, I've had this issue with multiple clients
Starting point is 01:04:35 and one of them particularly, like it used to be a dancer. And so like this external rotation process to everything, I couldn't get her to maintain, you know, just, you know, her toes to point straight in a squat, in a hip-hing movement, and anything, like everything always turned out. And so the knees, as a result, trying to overcompensate for that process, like took a lot of the brunt of that. And so it's just about mechanically, we got to address this. We got to address this on multiple levels, ankles and hips.
Starting point is 01:05:07 And I'm constantly watching her gay to she walks and like, seem where she applies pressure. And, you know, and, and pronating, not pronating. And, and like, we're breaking down like mechanically, what's happening in her feet and in her hips. And it, it's a slow process, but like, as you start to really kind of work on these really, you know, the small things that seem like it's not gonna make a big difference.
Starting point is 01:05:31 It made a huge difference because now we have something that's more stable and and you know, I can actually do a squat without this external rotation being involved. Yeah, you need to find a way to work out that doesn't cause joint pain afterwards. And then you need to figure out a way to correct your movement so that you can work out the way you were working out before, but then without pain. So in other words, if barbell squatting, every time I barbell squat, like I hear on my pump,
Starting point is 01:06:00 it's such a great exercise. And every time I barbell squat though, my knees hurt for a couple days. Now what I don't want to do is say, oh well, okay, whatever, I just have chronic knee pain. It goes away after a couple days, so I'm gonna keep doing it. No.
Starting point is 01:06:12 Or completely stopped squat. No, right. What you need to do is maybe squat in a way that doesn't hurt. And if that means you have to stop squatting for a second, that's fine. But work on movements, correctional exercises, to get you to the point where you can squat again without causing this kind of pain,
Starting point is 01:06:29 without causing this kind of knee pain. Now, remember, and you said something interesting, Adam, about people who are like, oh, that's just my knee here, that they accept it, like, oh yeah, my shoulder gets just hurts, so I've got to lift it, whatever. That chronic pain that keeps popping up, you gotta pay attention to it and figure out
Starting point is 01:06:46 the root cause of it because over time, that chronic pain can only get worse. If you don't address the root cause of why it's hurting, it will only get worse. It will not get better with age. It's not gonna, and even if you think to yourself, like I'm just gonna rest it, I'm not gonna do anything on well.
Starting point is 01:07:04 Now you're gonna atrophy lose muscle, but you'll then do what? Make it worse. Yeah, you overcompensate, so you work your way through it by avoiding that specific movement, but now you've built up these new patterns that are gonna lead you in a whole
Starting point is 01:07:17 another can of worms that you're gonna have to deal with. Next question is from E. Braga, 06. What are your thoughts on Peloton and other streaming at home workouts? How long before VR compatible treadmills and rowers? I think this whole market is really cool and fascinating. It totally does not appeal to me. It's hard enough to work out at home. It's a put a pair of goggles on so I can pretend like I'm in a room full of other people and just is not me at all.
Starting point is 01:07:49 I mean, it's for me, training is this thing that I like to be inside of a gym and in my own space and headphones and music and thinking about my body. Like, I don't need visual stimulation to get me more involved in what in this exercise program or workout. But I do find it really cool. I think it's pretty dope that you could get on a bike and race somebody in Europe and in Florida and all over the place and be able to see them and engage in the class type of setting. But yeah, I'm more curious than I have like an opinion on if it's going to last, I mean,
Starting point is 01:08:26 Peloton is crushing it. I mean, they're absolutely killing it right now. So it's obviously, I remember I brought that article up on the last live events. It was, they were comparing Peloton to what's the big one, cycle bar. Right. Is it cycle? Soul cycle. Soul cycle.
Starting point is 01:08:42 They're comparing the two of them, the pros and cons of each. And when you just talk about convenience, affordability, the fact that once you set your Peloton bike up, it's to you now forever. So you take a class, you get to come in, you get to adjust the bike all the time because somebody else just wrote it the class before. And that's kind of a pain in the ass.
Starting point is 01:08:57 If you want to only do it for 20 minutes, there are hour long classes, so you can't just get off the bike because it's not in your home. So I think it allows for things like that. I think it would be neat for me to hop on there and ride for 20 minutes because I have 20 minutes that day and then get off and then walk away from it. So I think these things are neat.
Starting point is 01:09:15 I don't know if it will be more trendy because I'm curious to the type of person that gravitate so it's the same. Yeah. I used to think there was this massive progression in that direction. I was thinking, wow, everything is going to be virtual and everything is going to be like a game and be super exciting. It's all about the experience of it and all that. I think that there's initial appeal to that because it definitely feeds with society
Starting point is 01:09:44 in terms of us being addicted to our phones and having this constant community access. Whereas now I kind of see, there might be this counter movement in terms of being overwhelmed with just too much electronic. And I always have to be around people and all that kind of stuff versus just doing something for myself and getting back to, I think there's a lot more like romance into the going back into the gym and just like being there with iron. Yeah, I, you know, I've been thinking a lot about this
Starting point is 01:10:15 lately. And I think a mistake that I make a lot of times is I apply myself into it. So I say, oh, I wouldn't like it or I would like it. Right, I'm with you on that. That's why I'm with you. And the problem with that is that I'm a fitness fanatic. Like, I grew up in the gym.
Starting point is 01:10:30 I literally had my first gym membership as old, I lost things, I was 15, and then from 15 on, I was in the gym no less than three days a week, and then after the age of 18, every single day, almost, right? And I think to myself, like, what prevents the average person from going to a gym and working out?
Starting point is 01:10:51 And you know what? One of the number one things that prevents people is the intimidation factor. And to me, it sounds strange because I feel at home in any gym, I walk into a gym and I just feel at home. The sounds, the smells, the people, whatever. It's just like another, it's like, this is, it's super familiar.
Starting point is 01:11:08 But to the average person, to the average American who, you know, maybe they played sports in high school and they got old and they went to college, they graduated, they had a couple kids and now they're like, oh god, I'm 35 years old and I need to start losing weight. And then they walk into a gym for the first time, or maybe they've been in a couple of times, but they never really spent a lot of time in there.
Starting point is 01:11:26 It is an intimidating place. That's the first thing that I hear to people's mouths is that gyms can be intimidating and it's not that they're scared. It just, it reminds me of like the first time I went to judo or jiu-jitsu. I remember walking in for the first time seeing people do all these moves and it was such an unfamiliar place for me that I had to get over that intimidation of that newness with all these people who are going to see me suck. They're going to see me mat know what I'm fucking doing,
Starting point is 01:11:52 mat that stupid questions. So for most people to get started to walk into a gym, then go into a class with an instructor, mat know how to use the fucking bike, ask the question, a lot of people don't do it because of that. But something like this, where you're in your living room, you go in virtually, maybe they don't even see who you are, maybe it's just an avatar of you,
Starting point is 01:12:12 or you just see avatars of other people, now I could see that getting people in there. I think it would be cool. I mean, I get it from a group perspective. People that are really into that group experience, it's cool, you have like, you could see the instructor, there's like, you know,
Starting point is 01:12:28 there's all these pop-ups with all these other people doing it at the same time. So it gives that kind of like live feel to it. But in terms of like what I would like to see, like personally, would be more of like a PRX kind of a setup or something like that, where you actually have like legit weight setup, but now you have a coach that's just,
Starting point is 01:12:47 you know, on the screen and can kind of coach you along as you're doing it. Because don't you see that to your points out, the person that you're describing that avatar, like what do you see, like what I see right away then as a problem is I know that that person needs to be weight training and they don't need to be getting on a bike and pedaling and racing people. And so what I see is maybe shredding a few pounds initially while it's cool and it's awesome
Starting point is 01:13:13 and it's a new thing in your living room and then it ends up being a place to hang your long-tringer. It's not the right answer. For example, curves in the late 90s, early 2000s was this little gym model where it was a small facility, pneumatic equipment done in a circle. It was women only, super accepting. And it got a lot of self-conscious women
Starting point is 01:13:34 to finally step into a quote unquote gym and work out. And the problem with that is, it wasn't the right solution, it wasn't the right workout. And so of course it was flash in the pan. It blew up and then it fizzled out. I think that this has a lot of potential to blow up, but I don't see a lot of potential for staying power, unless they actually apply the right things
Starting point is 01:13:55 when it comes to exercise, which we talk about all the time. But still, if you think about it, how many people are intimidated to go work out because they just don't feel comfortable in a gym with all this beauty, right? And so now they can do something like Peloton People are intimidated to go work out because they just don't feel comfortable in a gym with only a majority. Right, and so now they can do something like Peloton or a VR treadmill or Rower, they can get in there. They're still working out with people,
Starting point is 01:14:14 but you don't see me, I don't fucking feel whatever. I'm in my living room. I'm comfortable. So I always want, this is part of our debate that we have with group training though. Like the question that I have or the challenge that I have is, is that a better thing? Because you can- Oh, is it better?
Starting point is 01:14:29 Right, because it'll make a lot of money. Because the argument is like, hey, it gets, and this we had this there last live event where you debated me a little bit over the group training. That's like, hey, if it's something that starts someone, and we've had people in our forum that debate me on this too, and I totally get that there's always exceptions to the rule. So if there's somebody who's like, hey, I found my pump and I started because I got into a group training class and I'm, now I'm here and I would have never got started if it wasn't for that. So I get that. But the question is, are you the minority? And does it end
Starting point is 01:14:55 up fucking more people? Do more people do it? Try bust their ass and end up, you know, making it worse for themselves because they see these initial results and they never see it again. And they're, they end up slowing their metabolism down, end up making it worse for themselves because they see these initial results and they never see it again, and they end up slowing their metabolism down, end up putting more weight on it, and they just discourage them more of that. Fuck that, I don't wanna do this, this whole fitness thing,
Starting point is 01:15:14 it's easier for me to just eat what I want and just accept being fat. So I would challenge with that is like, is it really a good thing, just like the group training argument that I make? It's like, I would love to have a palaton because I also would use it judicially. It would be a cool thing.
Starting point is 01:15:31 Every once in a while I talk shit to you guys on the phone but like, hey, let's get on the palaton. Let's race tonight. You know what I'm saying? And we have fun with it. And I think there's people that are listening that may have that same experience with it and it could be an awesome thing.
Starting point is 01:15:41 But the person, the majority, the reason why I will make millions, if not billions of dollars, is for. But the person, the majority, the reason why it will make millions, if not billions of dollars, is for what you said, Salis, that a majority of the people that will actually go use it are the ones that are intimidated to lift weights, intimidated to go inside the gym. And so they're in their room or in their house doing this, not knowing that they're probably not doing,
Starting point is 01:16:00 not only not the best thing for them, but probably potentially one of the worst things. Aside from sitting on the couch and eating Cheetah. That's the thing, it's better than nothing, but it might open the door for what Justin said, which is like VR resistance training, which would be phenomenal. VR resistance training would be so much better,
Starting point is 01:16:18 it wouldn't be better than a trainer, of course, in-person personal trainer. And this is one of us. Right, but VR would be fucking awesome. But think about it this way. Like as soon as you start to eliminate barriers between people and what they wanna do, boy, does it start to take off?
Starting point is 01:16:36 Like a good example would be pornography. Like the barrier used to be, if you wanted a dirty movie or a dirty magazine, you had to go to the fucking store and be embarrassed. Or you had to go to the rental store and walk in the back room. To the shame. Yeah, you had to go to the back room. The ultimate pair.
Starting point is 01:16:51 With all the dirty movies and come out and everybody knows you're gonna almost steal a billion dollar history. And you'll find your way through those crazy beads. Or you have to go, I remember, yeah, yeah, I'm getting this. I remember when I legally bought my first dirty magazine, I turned 18, I was like, oh fuck, but then I'm like, oh my God, I gotta go to the store and buy this shit,
Starting point is 01:17:06 people are gonna see me. Yeah, that's that barrier, right? But then they eliminated the barrier, and now you can do it at home. And all of a sudden, everybody now looks at porn. I think stuff like this is gonna really expand the fitness market beyond what gyms could ever do because it gets rid of that barrier of intimidation.
Starting point is 01:17:23 It definitely is a bigger conversation because I always think, you know, like we're still talking into this like a little tiny bubble. Like as many people as we think are listening, I think that there's just so many people at like your Comic-Con's and like, you know, these video game conventions and like, I am just like amazed at how many people are just like sitting on their ass and like I am just like amazed at how many people are just like sitting on their ass and like just absorbing like electronics. It's crazy to me and I'm passionate about wanting to
Starting point is 01:17:54 be like, hey, you can have fun with that but like move. Like don't forget to move. Yeah, well what they're trying to do now is new cities that are getting designed are starting to get designed with obesity in mind. And so what you're trying to do now is new cities that are getting designed are starting to get designed with obesity in mind. And so what you're starting to see with these cities are, they're designing them to be where it's more convenient to walk than to drive and they have the neighborhood stores
Starting point is 01:18:17 and all that stuff. That's cool. And I think that's the only solution. I'm going to be quite honest with you right now. And then the only solution to activity in the modern world is to start designing cities so that that becomes convenient because we designed the suburbs and it was like, if you had to get anywhere, you had to drive because it was five miles away. And so everybody stopped moving.
Starting point is 01:18:37 And when you look at people that live in old cities like San Francisco, New York City, Paris, Rome, the average person gets, I don't know, probably two to three times as many steps every day. Because if you want to go to the grocery store, it makes no sense to drive. Yeah, I noticed that when I was in Europe and I was going through like Scotland, Ireland, everything, it was like, we were walking, like everywhere, it's like,
Starting point is 01:18:58 we could totally have gotten a taxi or an Arab, but it was just like, nah, it's the right, you know, it's a couple of miles away. And my brother lives in San Francisco and he's a big car guy. Love's cars, love's fast cars, cool cars. He's very successful. Dude, sold his car.
Starting point is 01:19:12 He sold it and he's like, I don't know why. I don't want a car here. It makes no sense. So now he walks and bikes everywhere. And I think that that will be the only permanent solution. But anyway, nonetheless, you eliminate that barrier of intimidation that Jimms have been dealing with for decades.
Starting point is 01:19:27 Like that's been the big problem with gyms. How do we get people stopping scared of us? Well, that's why planet fitness is blown up. 100%. That's one of the reasons why planet's like, the no judgment zone. Why do you think they're fucking crushing? Is that whole, like, it's that scary here, whatever.
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