Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1081: The Pros & Cons of Foam Rolling, Training & Nutrition for Combat Sports, the First Steps to Becoming a Leader & MORE

Starting point is 00:00:00 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Salta Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this episode of The Mind Pump, look we talk all about fitness health, building muscle, burning body fat, but we also talk about current events and have a lot of fun. Here's what we talked about in the first 40 minute intro of this episode. I talk about the two cannabinoids that you may not have heard of,

Starting point is 00:00:30 canabicromine and canabajeral, and of course other cannabinoids. Now they all work better together. So if you're just taking CBD, you might want to look into getting the entourage effect of a party, which is actually found in the hemp oil extract of the company Ned. Now we work with Ned. They, in our opinion, are the best quality hemp oil extract. They have independent lab results showing all the different cannabinoids,

Starting point is 00:00:57 and we have a discount for you. If you go to helloned.com, that's H-E-L-L-O-N-E-D.com forward slash mind pump. You'll get 15% off your first purchase. The next thing we talked about was the Denver event that we gave a little recap on our, what seems now has become our favorite city. Great audience over there also always very humbling. We talked about how Viori was rated the number one at Leisure brand by Business Insider, also experiencing triple digit growth. Now find out why Viori is number one and why they're crushing so hard, they make amazing at Leisure where it looks good.

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Starting point is 00:01:54 It'll give you 25% off any of their products. Then I talked about a podcast I heard about SIBO, that's small intestinal bacterial overgrowth. If you have IBS or gut issues, studies are showing that you're likely to have SIBO, that small intestinal bacterial overgrowth. If you have IBS or gut issues, studies are showing that you're likely to have SIBO, so you might wanna listen to that part of this episode. Then we talked about South Park, how much we love South Park, just then brought up Pampers Smart Dipers, I guess they're making electronic diapers now.

Starting point is 00:02:20 Yeah, it's kind of weird. There's some people marketing and making money on the area 51 issue that's going on online. Please don't storm area 51. Don't do it. It's stupid. You're gonna get shot. Yep.

Starting point is 00:02:33 We talked about how end game now passed Avatar as the number one movie of all time, but also Disney has rights to Avatar 2. Are they gonna rule the world soon? Yeah, I think so. I'm buying shares of the right as we speed. I'm less scared than Amazon. Then we get into the fitness portion of this episode.

Starting point is 00:02:49 The first fitness question, does foam rolling actually help or is it more of a short-term solution? In other words, is foam rolling part of the long-term solution to solve your pain issues? The next question, how should you train and eat for combat sports like boxing and MMA? So we talk about the right type of weight training

Starting point is 00:03:08 if those are your priorities, boxing and mixed martial arts. The next question, should a person who wants to become a good leader first developed themselves as a team player? In other words, is it essential to know how to be a team player in order to be a good leader. The final question, if we all trained each other, in other words, if Justin and I trained Adam or if Adam and Justin trained me or if Adam and I trained Justin, what would we

Starting point is 00:03:36 train them on? What are the programs we have them follow? How would we do the nutrition? What would they look like at the end of the training. Also, this month maps anywhere the program that we designed that is without equipment. In other words, you can follow this program, get great results, and you can do it at home in the office while you travel because it requires no equipment. All you need are resistance bands and your body weight. It's extremely effective.

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Starting point is 00:05:13 So for a long time now, most of the study that's been done since cannabis is elevated itself from the, you know, it's a drug, you know, category to now, we understand that there's medicinal applications, there's therapeutic applications, there's other things that cannabinoids do besides make you high, which is like the THC one, right? And a lot of the science initially went to CBD. That became the most studied besides THC cannabinoid. And we know this now, CBD is putting it in absolutely everything. Well, one thing that people need to understand

Starting point is 00:05:49 is the studies are so far, okay, again, there's a lot of new stuff coming out, but so far the studies are showing quite clearly that for cannabinoids to exert their most beneficial effects, they do much better when they're in the presence of other cannabinoids. So isolating CBD, taking it by itself, it's not going to give you nearly the benefits as when it's combined with other cannabinoids.

Starting point is 00:06:17 And the scientists call this the the entourage effect. So for example, THC, which everybody's familiar with, right? That's the one that makes you high. If you have pure THC, which a lot of people don't know this, did you guys know that THC in synthetic form has been in medication or in approved medicine for a long time? Yeah, they come in these little round, brown and orange gel caps. Yes, it's been around for a long time. Not very popular though, because the side effect of paranoia and anxiety is high. Yeah. So a lot of people would

Starting point is 00:06:46 take these, this, this, this, what's the, what is the pharmaceutical name of THC Doug? Maybe you can find, I can't believe I forgot the name of it. But anyway, a lot of people don't like it because I guess a high percent. Terahadja Corzola goal. Austin is. Yeah. yeah, that's the best health term. Syntho weed, you know. But anyway, it, it, Maranol, Maranol is the name of it. No need to keep looking, Doug. But anyway, people would take it in a large percentage or a significant percentage would come back and be like, this shit makes me paranoid.

Starting point is 00:07:18 Oh, you know, I get anxious, I can't take it. When you take THC with CBD and other cannabinoids, the instance of negative effects greatly, like hugely diminishes. Here's another one. The memory loss effects that come from THC, the short-term memory loss, you know the whole stereotype of the stoner who's like, I forgot or whatever. That greatly diminishes after what a one-to-one ratio. You're the one that kind of put me on that.

Starting point is 00:07:45 Yes. You have other cannabinoids present. It reduces the short-term memory loss that can happen from a lot of THC. So anyway, a lot of the study was done on CBD. Pharmaceutical companies were super interested. Now of course, CBD is getting hord out. All these supplement companies who have zero understanding or don't even attempt to understand how to really maximize it or putting

Starting point is 00:08:09 CBD by itself and everything there are no other cannabinoids there are no terpins and their terpins is a whole other subject Those are the compounds in cannabis and hemp that make it that give it its smell that also You know can contribute to its beneficial effects So they're just isolate CBD, put it in something, and that's if you're lucky. Usually there is no real CBD. It's just, it's all hype right now.

Starting point is 00:08:29 Like the CBD burger from Carl's Jr., like pretty sure you're not getting shit in there, but processed food or whatever. So I've been reading and trying to look up on studies on other cannabinoids, because there's a lot on CBD, but there was very little on the other cannabinoids. But two stood out.

Starting point is 00:08:44 One is CBG, cannabis gerol, which cannabis gerol acid, CBGA, is the, kind of like the parent cannabinoid. So the cannabis plant and the hemp plant will take CBG and turn it into CBD and other cannabinoids. So it's like the parent cannabinoid.

Starting point is 00:09:04 This is kind of interesting because it may have more of a balancing effect than CBD. And the studies on CBG right now are showing all the benefits of CBD, the anti-inflammatory effects, Enziolytic, which is like non-anti-anxiety effects. I said anti-inflammatory, the anti or immunomodulating effects for people with autoimmune issues. CBG is showing that it's just as good as CBD, maybe even better, definitely when they're both present.

Starting point is 00:09:36 And then CBC, cannabis chromine is a fascinating one. Cannabis chromine, I actually brought it up because this one I was just recently reading about. Cannabicromine has been shown to encourage the human brain to grow by increasing the viability of developing brain cells in a process known as neurogenesis. So CBC actually stimulates fucking neurogenesis. I thought fasting was the only thing that we've found to do the only one.

Starting point is 00:10:07 So that's why this is so damn fascinating. Combining the two is interesting. And here's a thing too, high consistent high use of THC has been shown to shrink certain parts of the brain, especially in adolescents. CBC may be a cannabinoid that will prevent some of those negatives that'll happen.

Starting point is 00:10:31 So it's sort of like the built-in balance of if you have like THC in the plant, like that it already has that sort of like balanced chemical property. That's the beauty of all this, right? Now we were talking to me about this, you know, off air a couple of days ago, last some time. And I know that one of the things you were really interested to discuss and I asked you about was, did

Starting point is 00:10:52 you know if, uh, Ned had CBG in there and did you get a chance, since we just went to their event that they held for us? Did you get a chance to talk to them? Yes. So I took them aside. and before I said this on the podcast, I wanted to just ensure that I would be speaking with integrity. So I took the boys aside. By the way, those guys are great. The owners of Ned, super down to earth, super cool guys. That's one of the reasons why we started working with them back when they were small and

Starting point is 00:11:21 now they're obviously massive and growing. And I took them aside and I said, hey, I've been doing a lot of reading on CBG and right away, they interrupt me. They're like, oh, can't have a Gerald. They're like, oh, no, that one's huge. CBC is another big one. And then they were showing me that the lab reports on their hemp oil extract, because here's the thing, Ned is not a CBD only oil.

Starting point is 00:11:44 It definitely has CBD present. But the reason why Ned, why people are saying, it's so much more effective, is because it's full spectrum. So they take high quality hemp that's been bred to be high in some of these beneficial cannabinoids. And they extract it, concentrate it, but they don't remove cannabinoids or terpenes or anything. In fact, you can smell and taste it a little bit

Starting point is 00:12:08 when you take it. It's got all of the cannabinoids, and they said that some of their batches tested as high as 6% CBG, which is freaking awesome. And CBG and CBGC in particular are fascinating because of their effects on bowel inflammation. So people with like Crohn's disease and you know irritable bowel syndrome or just a lot of these disorders of the gut which makes me wonder if that's why the inzealitic effects

Starting point is 00:12:38 from Ned. This is all anectope right now. The rest of what I'm about to say is anectope. So no studies yet. But the anectotes that I'm getting from people are, I've tried pure CBD, it didn't really do a whole lot for my anxiety. Hem, the, the, the, Ned oil did a lot for my anxiety. And I'm wondering if it's through, if it's mediated through the gut. Because I know gut inflammation is strongly correlated now to anxiety and mental stuff, because now

Starting point is 00:13:07 we're seeing that it affects the brain. I mean, it's the second brain, right? It's the gut. But anyway, yeah, it's fascinating. Fascinating shit, because I think what we're going to find in the future with cannabinoids is you got to give, if you want to really get the maximal effects, you got to, you want to use all of them, not just one or two that we think are the best. And it was funny, the way they explained CBD to me was,

Starting point is 00:13:32 CBD, CBG, and some of these others. For example, with CBD, it doesn't attach to the two cannabinoid receptors that we're familiar with. And so for a long time, like they were thinking, how does it work then? What is it doing? And the way they explained to me was brilliant. He said that it's like shaking the receptors

Starting point is 00:13:51 and shaking them clean so that more of them are open for your own natural cannabinoid production or for other cannabinoid. That's why when you take them with other cannabinoids, they just work in harmony together, which I'm gonna get a little woo now, but it seems to be how nature works. There's always kind of this balancing effect from,

Starting point is 00:14:13 yeah, you see that a lot in plants, especially the ones that have a poison or something. There's always this counter, the anecdote is right there, or the antidote. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's wild, right? Yeah, fascinating stuff. But anyway, I was, shout out to them

Starting point is 00:14:29 for helping us put together a phenomenal vent. I have to say Denver's crowd, probably one of my favorites. Yes, yeah, they're awesome. It was great energy there. I mean, that was the earliest event we've done so far. So it was interesting, because we got there like 11 or so. Like everybody was already there. Yeah, I was like, whoa.

Starting point is 00:14:47 It's gonna be great. That was my favorite for sure. I mean, the people were just rad. The event was awesome. Ned put on a great place for us. Like that was all awesome, but the people, dude. I really, really connected with all the people. I know that we don't connect with everybody

Starting point is 00:15:01 from all the places that we go, but they did. They just, they seemed more like all of us. And I know you were talking to some people before we went there, like people were trying to speculate, like, you know, why we had such a huge sellout crowd there, faster than anywhere else, because there was a ton of people that didn't make it. I got a ton of DMs of people like,

Starting point is 00:15:19 damn, and I missed it before it sold out. I ran into a listener at the airport on the way out that didn't, you know, did it get just a go. Oh, you did not, that's cool. Yeah, so, I mean into a listener at the airport on the way out that didn't, you know, did it get gits? Oh, you did not. Cool. Yeah. So, I mean, there was a lot of people that didn't even get into it.

Starting point is 00:15:31 So I think it's that they tell what, from what I heard, from what they tell me is that our sense of humor, the way we view things aligns with the crowd in Denver, because you'll notice with Denver, for example, their politics, they can go both sides. You know, they can be liberal on some things, conservative on other things, and we tend to be like that, right? We can be kind of open-minded with, and then our sense of humor. They said it's a Midwestern.

Starting point is 00:15:54 They said a sense of humor connects with that kind of Midwest type of crowd, but I don't know, man, they were awesome, awesome crowd. 100% will be a regular stop now. For sure. And Denver now has become one of my favorite cities. It's a big city, great place to go hang out. We went to some bars afterwards.

Starting point is 00:16:10 I couldn't believe how clean it was for a big city. Yeah. I didn't see any riffraff. I didn't see any, you know. That's why I'm excited too. Too cool. Yeah, it's too cool. You saw that storm.

Starting point is 00:16:19 We used to, how crazy was that? 85 and Thunderstorms. So it's like, it was dumping for like an hour. Board shorts in a parka is the appealing in and out. Just like that. Yeah, me and with dumping. Like could you imagine being a bum and getting hit by that? Oh man.

Starting point is 00:16:34 So you're f**k dude. So and everybody that like all the Uber drivers and everybody that lived there was like, it was no big deal. I mean I was out there. It was so crazy I was videotaping it. I'm like, oh, flash flood warning Lightning all over the place. Yeah, lightning tree losing the blower and then like all said, whoop like clears up

Starting point is 00:16:49 Oh, it's gone now. Oh, but yeah, no everybody was super friendly too And one of the best stakes ever had was in Denver. Yeah, we had it at the hotel the hotel we were at They're the restaurant, which was a good restaurant. Yeah, shout out to hotel indigo It's the second time we've stayed at that chain. We stayed there in LA also. I like that hotel. Yeah, their stake was incredible. But the crowd was phenomenal. Everybody was super appreciative. And I get emotional thinking about it

Starting point is 00:17:15 because these people, we put out our information, but we don't choose our audience. They choose us. You know what I'm saying? So it's like such an honor to sit there and meet people that chose to follow my pump and do our programs and whatever. And take the information and run with it

Starting point is 00:17:34 and apply it in totally different avenues. It's just so great to see other professionals there that really appreciate our perspective and then can also reinterpret that same thought process going into physical therapy or at least other health professions. I was also really impressed with the trainers that did come to this event. Every time we do an event, not just the mind pump lives, but when we do our tours around locally and do go to gyms and pop up and talk to trainers,

Starting point is 00:18:07 always I ask, who owns Prime and Prime Pro? And it always blows my mind how many people that are trainers that listen to the show that don't own those two programs. And this was the first place that we went to that. Everybody did. Yes, and I was blown away by that. And they all say the same thing, like, oh my God,

Starting point is 00:18:26 it's the most valuable program that I own of yours. It's what I use on all of my clients. And I got more from that than any of the certifications that I have. And I'm like, yes, that's what I'm always trying to communicate on the podcast is if you're a trainer and you haven't invested in Prime and Prime Pro, you're missing out because of all the things that we have and is valuable as all the

Starting point is 00:18:46 programs are. If you're a trainer, the ones that are probably most applicable to your everyday client and helping your business out, 100% would be bad. Do you know what else is funny? Because we were at altitude, right? We live at San Jose's what, sea level, probably. We're at Denver, so I don't know how many thousands of feet elevation, higher than much higher than San Jose.

Starting point is 00:19:09 One drink is worth like three, dude. I drank, we did one shot, and I knew better because remember I had gone there with Jessica like three or four weeks before. So I knew better, so I waited 10 minutes. And that shot, bro, hit me, but I was like, oh, I'm drunk. I had that shot and then I had

Starting point is 00:19:28 the Naitro Colbrue there, too. And so I had like this huge, like one of those mason jar filled with Naitro and I was starting to drink it and then I just got kind of the jitters. And I'm like, oh no, that was like too much. I think that's why Taylor and Rachel were filling off a little bit.

Starting point is 00:19:43 Yeah, Taylor was a little nauseous. And I think it's the same thing with me. I had a little bit of caffeine and it felt like I took twice too much. I think that's why Taylor and Rachel were filling off a little bit. Yeah, Taylor was a little nauseous. Yeah. And I think it's the same thing with me. I had a little bit of caffeine and it felt like I took twice as much. Yeah. That's what I didn't anticipate because I'm the caffeine guy. Yeah. I'm all in.

Starting point is 00:19:56 And that got me, dude, to that level where I was like, I haven't felt as a while. Yeah, I looked it up and alcohol interferes with the way hemo-globin utilizes oxygen. Because you already have less oxygen, because you're at altitude, it just hits your brain much harder. Fucking felt like it. Because then we went out afterwards. We all know Justin has several livers.

Starting point is 00:20:20 He was born with a condition that gives him kind of like an alien. Three or four livers. He's born with a condition that gives him kind of like an alien three or four livers. So he, you know, he's got that tolerance or whatever. So we're sitting there and Justin had the lady was pouring us a shot because we went out later. We asked for a shot of whiskey or whatever was out crown. Yeah. She's like, oh, I only have enough for one shot. Well, as she poured it out, it was already there and she's like, shit, I ran out. She's like, here's a free one. So Justin had like an extra shot. Yeah. He walked around with it. He didn't even have it. I was like, dude, I don't know about this idea. Yeah. I was like, I might just sip this one. I drank the first one fast. And I was like, whoa. I need to pace myself. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The two beers I had, I was, I was definitely buzzing just from that. Yeah. It doesn't take much from me, period. But two beers was enough to toss me. Well, they opened up, Taylor was able to open up nine more spots for Seattle, which we're gonna be at.

Starting point is 00:21:11 I didn't know that. This week, yeah, we're gonna be at Friday this week in Seattle, so if you couldn't get a ticket cause it's sold out, they opened up nine more spots. I hope they're still available by the time of the airing of this episode. I didn't even know that. Yeah, it's mindpumplive.com.

Starting point is 00:21:26 Go to Seattle, yeah. Yeah, so we have some more spots open and available so I'm sure. Yeah, check it out. Dude, did you ask everybody like where they found us? It was always interesting to me to see like what other like podcasts or shows or anything else like the might of driven them our way.

Starting point is 00:21:43 Like one of them was sex with Emily. Oh, you had a sex with Emily? Well, I had two people like tell me that and I was so surprised by that. I was like cool, they were just really stoked that we don't just stay in fitness. Like we were like venturing out and doing, you know, other subjects and I'm like, well, yeah,

Starting point is 00:22:00 I mean, it's part of the human experience. Like this is all incorporated in hell. Not only that, but I know that when we first, we all agreed that we would go insane if that's all we could talk about. True. I love fitness. Don't get me wrong.

Starting point is 00:22:12 And I love talking. And I know that's our wheelhouse, but, you know, I think- We'll talk about sex. Yeah. I mean, it's fun. That's what we're actually doing. That's our true experience.

Starting point is 00:22:21 Exactly. Yeah. Practice all the time. A huge experience. So every once in a while when we meet these people, That's not true, it's what you do. Exactly. Practice all the time. One listener, so every once in a while when we meet these people, I recognize their faces. By their Instagram handles, that's how I talk to them. Hey, Rick won. Yeah, does it happen to you guys too?

Starting point is 00:22:38 Yeah, I recognize faces and then I connect it to the Instagram handles. I'm terrible at names. Yeah, so I'll remember a face and usually it's because they asked me a weird question at one point and it just stuck with me, right? So one of our listeners comes, she's walking up, you know, to say hi. This is after we were done. And I'm like, I know you and she looks at me all like, huh? And I'm like, did you, did you DM me ask me a question or something, you know, whatever?

Starting point is 00:23:00 And then she got super embarrassed. And so, and then more people came up or whatever. Then later on she comes up, she goes, yeah, I asked you a question after the sex with Emily episode. I'm like, what question do you ask? And she's like, I asked you which sex toy was the best one? Oh, and I'm like, that's why I remember. Has anybody ever asked me that question?

Starting point is 00:23:19 Yeah, that was the one that I remember. Oh, that's the multiple features. Yeah, dude, so business insider, you guys ever read that? All the time. Great site, right? Great business site. Yeah. You gonna bring up the Viori article?

Starting point is 00:23:31 Yeah, dude. I saw that. They ranked the top Eslisio where Viori got overall number one better than all the other assets. So, beat out Adidas, beat out Nike, beat out all the other potential brands. Yeah, take that big dog suit. They're crushing.

Starting point is 00:23:46 Yeah, they are. It was cool to see too at the events. Every time we do these, I see more and more people wearing the gear. What you find with like, and I get it because if it's a new brand, you've never heard it, you tend to like try like one piece. Like I'll try the shirt or a pair of pants and see because you're, nobody goes out and spends a thousand dollars on the line. First time. First time until you just get the fit down. So fit down. But once someone buys it and they feel it and they wear

Starting point is 00:24:09 it, they're like, oh shit, I love it. And so there was several people at the event that were, yeah, you can live in it. I mean, head to toe of your ear. Well, these these core shorts, I seriously like, especially that the weather's warmed up. Like, dude, you can wear them. For me, it's the easiest because it's not like, I mean, there's other ones that are better for swimming in, I think, but these are the ones I wear all the time. Like it's just, it's easy and it's colorful. I rock these, what, though you said these are called the Sunday pants?

Starting point is 00:24:33 Is that what you said? Yeah, I think so. Yeah, these are my, I think I have five pairs of these now. I don't, I didn't get a pair of those. You don't have to think that with a little zipper on the side. Maybe I do, did they come in black? I like the ones you're wearing, I like too. These are my favorite so far. but I like these way better. Well, triple digit growth is what it said

Starting point is 00:24:49 in business insider that they're going through insane amount of growth. So this is like they're internationally like growing to not just in the States. I didn't know. I don't know about that, but I do know that they're going through triple digit growth that they are now, they won business insider. Like we are literally working with a company, which this is phenomenal. This is great because remember we first start working with them. They were relatively unknown, right? They're blowing up to the point where I could see in five years this company is going to

Starting point is 00:25:20 be like, they're already big time, they're going to be big, big time. Yeah. They're getting highlighted like this and just gonna be, they're already big time, they're gonna be big, big time. But they're getting highlighted like this and just crushing the way they are. We're looking at another mega powerhouse. Yes. Like a Nike, one of those big, big dogs. And I'm glad they like us, because that's cool, we can kind of hang out with them.

Starting point is 00:25:35 No, no, no, no, no. It's a great, great brand. But the big guy, anyway. So on the way, on the flight back, I listened to Chris Crestress podcast. Very technically, he's always got very technical podcast, but I like some of stuff. And he did an article, excuse me, in an interview with, I think it was Dr. Pimentel on SIBO.

Starting point is 00:25:54 Do you guys know what SIBO is? Yeah, small intestinal overgrowth. Bacterial overgrowth. Bacterial overgrowth. So SIBO is becoming a big deal in the gut health arena. They, through testing now what they're finding, so in the past, a lot of people have had the diagnosis of IBS, irritable bowel syndrome.

Starting point is 00:26:13 And IBS is just, it's just a fancy way of saying, we don't know what the fuck you have. It's true. You go to the doctor, you have to shit all the time. I know because this was me. You go to the doctor, they do the fucking, you know, and DOS could be called anoscopy, they test you for any major, whatever, okay, we can't find anything, you have IBS.

Starting point is 00:26:32 And so there you go. It's like basically a diagnosis of elimination. So we've eliminated all the stuff we know since we don't know what the hell's wrong with you. You have IBS. Well, with studies now, what they're finding is that a majority of people with IBS, so if you're listening right now,

Starting point is 00:26:49 and you have IBS, whether it's IBSC, which is Irritable Balsandrome, characterized by constipation, or IBSD, diarrhea, or alternating, because some people have both, the alternate. The odds are that you have SIBO. They're finding now that people with IBS, it's because they have bacterial overgrowth in their small intestines and this is what's causing the problem. And to treat this, and here's the other thing, it's curable, totally.

Starting point is 00:27:20 So you can cure it. There are antibiotics that you can get you can take. But there's also anti-microbial herbs that in studies are showing to be just as effective as antibiotics, which you can get I think over the counter. So those two things. Didn't you do something like that? I did. The stack that you heard, I think it was Dr. Bush or who did you? I know. I found this myself through the study. One's called FC SIDLE and the other one's called DISPIO SIDLE, which is a common, no affiliation. I'm not, we're not working with the company. So do your own research, make sure you do your own research.

Starting point is 00:27:52 But those are the two, but there's also the other things too, like you could take like peppermint oil, burbrine, oregano oil, these are all natural antimicrobials. But check this out, they're finding now, and this is breakthrough, kind of stuff, that people are developing SIBO because of some, at some point in their life, they had an infection, like a foodborne illness infection. That foodborne illness infection caused something to happen in their body that now possibly could have damaged the nerves

Starting point is 00:28:27 in the gut that reduce motility. So now, small bacteria builds up in the small intestines and they think it may actually be a form of an autoimmune issue. Because what happens with SIBO is you cure it and then the recurrence rates like 60%. And so what they're doing with these people is to help reduce reoccurrence is they're putting them

Starting point is 00:28:46 on a what's called a pro-kinetic medication, which is something that increases motility. But there's also natural motility increasing compounds like ginger, for example, something you can take. But anyway, fascinating stuff, because I know how fucking frustrating, it can be to have these repetitive gut issues. Are you, what do you say?

Starting point is 00:29:06 It comes from things like food poisoning. You could originally get it from that. Now, here's the other thing they said on the podcast, which I was fascinating. A lot of people will get food poisoning and it's not major. You'll just have diarrhea for a day and then it goes away. And that could have been what caused this kind of issue to where you're something that small and trivial. It could cause this where you lose your motility

Starting point is 00:29:26 and this bacteria can build up. And the small intestine cause you all kinds of grief and problems, because people with gut issues, if you're listening, you know what I'm talking about, it'll ask you forever. Like what the fuck's going on? You can cure this if you get diagnosed with SIBO. And then if it comes back, there's ways

Starting point is 00:29:44 that they can help prevent it from coming back. So this is fucking, this is big news, dude, because it's common. IBS is one of the most diagnosed things that are out there. So many people have it and don't know what to do with it. Speaking of what you were listening to on the fight back at the Apologize, Doug, that was me with the South Park. Did you get to watch those episodes? I did. Oh man, I'm so jealous.

Starting point is 00:30:07 I forget sometimes that I'm automatically logged into the business account stuff. Yeah. And so I saw that message come across because I flew out before you guys and you and I just were in the hotel room and we were just talking about how great South Park is. It was so good. Yeah, we forgot about them there for sure. And they still make new seasons, right? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:30:28 And I haven't watched them in a really long time and just in a very time like, you know what, with all the bullshit we've had going on the last year or two, South Park has, I bet it's got some great stuff. Yeah. And so we both got on and we were looking them up. And so I bought like four or five of them

Starting point is 00:30:42 so I could watch them on the flight, the flight back and I was dying. And then I saw the message from Doug saying like, does anybody know anything going on with the Mindbub account when we have purchases for South Park? What are the names of the two creators? Trey, Trey Parker and Matt Stone. Okay, did you ever watch the time

Starting point is 00:31:00 when they went to the, was it the music? Yes, I was telling Adam about that. Yeah, where they show up in a limo And they're wearing the dresses of like what the hottest dresses, you know like J. Lo's dress The green one what was all open in the middle? Yes, and I think it was like Bjork's like swan dress I didn't know that now did you guys know that when they did that because I heard an interview later on acid They were high as fuck on acid the whole time well because they said it in the interview Oh, did you know they're walking in there? Oh, that in the interview Oh, dude, yeah, they were like oh, yeah, it's great. We're totally on acid right now

Starting point is 00:31:31 They're like I was like I love these guys So just a night talking about it and we're talking about how great they would be for an interview like how Zero fuck how awesome would they be on the show right they do say they have such an important Roll and media. It's like called fucking everybody out and make fun of it It also sent us down the rabbit hole like this type of humor, right? And you remember crank anchors. I loved it. Yes, loved it. What dude? I forgot about the do you remember the episode that they did where they called Into like a like a home depot type of store and he talks about asking if they have any cock Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no just listen a little bit longer. It sounds proper. That's cool. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. You sounded like he was like legitimately asking good questions, but it was like

Starting point is 00:32:31 stiff cock. Yeah, just wait. It's a good hard. Yeah, after a certain amount of time. How long is that time? What was the what was black cock? One of the ones in the back in the day was What was that one where you could listen? It was only cassette tape the first time it came out. Then it was on CD. It was turkey boys. Jerky boys. Yeah. Wow.

Starting point is 00:32:52 That brings back memories. Jerky boys, crank anchors, all those. That's a weird, just a night we're going down like the old rabbit hole going listening to these old folks. Ah, the good old thing. Did you guys ever do crank calls when you were kids? Yes. Yeah. That was a popular thing when I was like,

Starting point is 00:33:06 before there was caller ID, you can't do that shit anymore. Right. No, even when there was, star six seven used to block your number. Yeah. I mean, that's, it's funny because when I was in college at this private school, it was really boring after a while. Like, I didn't have a car and you're just there with other students.

Starting point is 00:33:22 You were just trying to pass the time. So he'd take, there's one book, it's like the student book. Basically before Facebook, there's like the Facebook. Like you're able to call whoever randomly. And so he totally just would call and like leave like really inappropriate messages to everybody. Do you know who I used to crank all the time? This is my favorite thing to do.

Starting point is 00:33:39 So whatever gym I was managing, I would crank all my front desk all the time. All the time. All the time. And so when I worked in Salinas, you could watch them. Right? Oh, and I had fun with them. You know, so you got to have fun when you're working in a gym, otherwise it sucks.

Starting point is 00:33:53 So I worked in the first club I ever managed, I was a kid, I was 19, they gave me Salinas. So it's like, way the fuck out there. Largest panic population. So I go out there, I ended up, I loved it down there, at a great time on my staff. But anyway, my friend desk, you know, I had a friend desk girl working at the front, I'm in my office and so I call up and I change my voice and everything.

Starting point is 00:34:12 And I'm like, can you please page my husband over the intercom? She's like, sure, you know, what's his name? And I said, last name is Deho, first name is Ben. So she's on the intercom. This is, remember, all, this is like a, like a lot of spam is speaking members, but I'm, so she gets on the intercom. This is, remember, all, this is like a, like a lot of spam is speaking, remember what I'm saying.

Starting point is 00:34:26 So she gets on the intercom. Attention, members of the guests. Will Ben Dejo please come up to the front desk? Ben Dejo to the front desk. And after she said it like three times, she goes, Ben De, and then she hangs up, and she comes to the back, she's like, fuck, Sal. Oh my, it was just,

Starting point is 00:34:41 I pissed my pants, bro. Dude, I thought of you recently, Adam, I was reading this article about Pampers and like how they're getting into this new quote unquote market for baby smart tech. Oh, really? Yeah, so they have a line of diapers that are coming out that apparently will of course, you know, hook up to an app of some sort

Starting point is 00:35:02 where it'll alert you and let you know whether it's, they've peed, whether they pooed, like, you know hook up to an app of some sort where it'll alert you and let you know whether it's they've peed Where they put like it's brilliant between the two right like Sleep how how mobile they are throughout the day like how is this work? Well, they already have the so the ones I have just like a wearable have the lines right so it when he pees like it goes blue Mm-hmm, so that's cool so you don't have to stick your finger and make it look like it's cool. So hold on, school was pulled the diaper out, stick your finger in there and you find out.

Starting point is 00:35:29 School move is smelling, so I go in. Nope, that's dirty. Yeah, so what do you, so okay, so let me get the straight. You're gonna fucking hook up a Wi-Fi Bluetooth signal to your kids fucking genitals. There you go, yeah, there you go. That's the alarmist. That doesn't sound like a good idea.

Starting point is 00:35:43 Oh, it's gotta be okay, bro. I can't imagine the signal that's any more powerful than your damn cell phone, your holding when you're holding it. Yeah, I mean, that too. You're not putting it in as fucking diaper. Yeah, but it's also not a, probably a 5G cell phone either.

Starting point is 00:35:54 It's probably like a little thing, dude. The trippy part though, so it doesn't stop there. Like, they're already trying to like, really dive in at least tech companies are getting thirsty about this, right? So, you know, there's other things in terms of like being able to mimic the way that you're like shh, like you're the noise like the parent makes and then they're able to do that if there's any unrest in the middle of the night. Like that'll come on and just like shh. Oh my god. You know,

Starting point is 00:36:17 and like soothe them and so I forget what they're saying, but like later on they're like, oh man, like in terms of like being like soothe and triggered and're saying, but later on, they're like, oh man, in terms of being sued and triggered and all this, what does that adult look like? By the time that they grew up with all this, all these soothing mechanisms are already built in for you. You know? I was like, oh man, that's interesting. It's very interesting.

Starting point is 00:36:38 It's very interesting. Robot and Annie's dude, they're fucking around the corner. It'll be in your home. That's the thing. It's like all this feedback and, you know, all this stuff about human behavior is like really getting engineered. They're gonna design the most patient,

Starting point is 00:36:51 perfect like AI, Nanny. Well, we have the, we have, we haven't ever lose my mind. We haven't used it yet. It's one of the 1,000 boxes I have that I haven't opened in a try, but we do have the, the ankle thing that he wears or whatever, you see those?

Starting point is 00:37:03 No. Where are that like, he's on house arrest? Yeah, damn, he's young. Yeah, my kid's already doing script. We do have the ankle thing that he wears or whatever. You seen those? No. Where that like, down house arrest. Yeah. Damn, he's young. Yeah, the kids already doing some crazy stuff. It keeps, it tracks their movement through the night. It also tells you their, their temperatures.

Starting point is 00:37:13 So you can manage their temperature just right. So they're not too hot, too cold. So I forget what else it does. You not doing the cold therapy with him yet? No, he had his first bath last night. Oh, shit. How was it? Yeah, yeah, first bath.

Starting point is 00:37:24 Now who gave it was it just you two? Yeah, yeah, yeah, just me and Katrina. And the sink, just, no, we have one of those like, it fits in the bathtub. Yeah, a little baby tub or whatever. And then inside of that has like a little mesh net. Did he like the water?

Starting point is 00:37:36 Yeah, he loved it. Oh, that's so great. Yeah, I mean Katrina was on it, she was really good. She actually steamed the bathroom up first, so the bathroom itself was really, it was fucking hot, it's shit for me, but it was warm. So the whole bathroom was already warm, and then the water was lukewarm, whatever temperature, so it's supposed to be for him. And yeah, dude, he was, he loved it. He loved his first bath. It was great.

Starting point is 00:37:58 Oh, it's so great. Yeah, yeah. So it's, and then you wrap him up in the towel afterwards. I love that. You wrap up your little kid can he's spending with a rub lotion all over him So he smells so good, you know the labyrinth you do the lavender lotion. Yeah. Yeah chill him out. Yeah, that's so great Yeah, no he's he's so far everything that we've Introduced her had to do that. I mean sell a chill. Yeah, I mean I talked about I think on the show I talked about I mean he didn't cry during a circumcision. He didn't cry during his bath. He isn't He hasn't he the only time he He isn't, he isn't, the only time he cries is if you got a shitty diaper

Starting point is 00:38:27 or he's hungry. Yeah, he fears your voice now. That's what I was saying. You gotta have me over so I can strengthen him a little bit. Give him a little bit of challenge. The greatest surprise of everything has been, and it's been really cool is the boys, man. My dogs have, they have completely changed.

Starting point is 00:38:43 Their demeanor has changed totally. Like how? They're just, they're, you know, they, my dogs have, they have completely changed. Their demeanor has changed totally. Like how? They're just, they're, you know, they can be a little... They're more gentle. Yeah. They can be when, when, when, when, when people come, when they're with just me and Katrina, they are, already, they're bulldogs. They fucking sleep, they're chill, they're hilarious. When people come over, they get a little anxious and excited and they're all over the place. And so I was kind of a little worried about, you know, I'm like, when kids are over too, they see kids because they're small and so they get excited and they want to play with

Starting point is 00:39:09 them. You guys have had so many people over? Yeah. And so I was really kind of worried about them being anxious. I even talked to, I think before when we had Stephanie on the show about hiring somebody to go take them for an hour or two because I was really concerned that they were going to get jealous, that they were going to be all over him and jumping on him. And I thought I was really nervous about that.

Starting point is 00:39:30 And they have just changed. Their demeanor has changed. It's like they know that there's this baby that's in the house. And they think it's their feeding off of you in Katrina's demeanor or that the baby's in there. Maybe all of it. You know, you like so crazy. It's cool too because he'll like start crying,

Starting point is 00:39:47 and then the boys kind of perk up, and they don't, they kind of walk over, and then they kind of sit down, and they just kind of wait, and they just pay attention to what she's doing, and when she's with them. Oh, that's so great. Yeah, I know, it's cool. And then if he's making noises when he's sleeping,

Starting point is 00:40:00 so they'll like, they'll get up on the couch, and they'll kind of peek on him to see if he's okay and stuff. No way. Yeah, no it's dope, dude. And I can put him down right next to him and they, they don't pod, I'm earning like that. They love to smell them and get close to him, but they won't put their paw up on him,

Starting point is 00:40:14 which is weird, because they'll do that to humans, anybody else, like if you are playing with my dogs, one of the things that I've talked about. They know to be gentle. They know, yeah. Yeah, it's interesting how they're like that. They just, all of the... That's why dogs are the most special animals

Starting point is 00:40:26 in the world. They really are, man. You see them do stuff like that and it's like, they were, that's the animal that we, that's closest to us, in my opinion. Yeah, it's been cool. I was worried about it and it's been awesome to watch the way they act around them for sure.

Starting point is 00:40:41 Dude, you guys know when I brought up that silly thing that they were promoting on Facebook about storming area 50. Oh yeah, is it real or not real? So it's not real. I mean, it was just totally satirical. Like somebody put that up there. But they did as a joke. They did talk to, I think that the US,

Starting point is 00:41:00 whatever the military did talk to the people at area 50, they want to get away. They issued a warning. Yeah, a legit warning out there. Like, probably not a good idea. But I didn't do this. Yeah, this is a really bad idea. And because it was getting traction,

Starting point is 00:41:12 just like anything else, it starts out kind of as a joke. Somebody thinks it's serious and is like gung-ho about it, then gets more people involved, and then it turns into a clusterfuck. Anyway, you know, just like with the paranoia going into the Mayan calendar and like the end of days, all this stuff, people are gonna cash in on this. And so, like there's been a few companies

Starting point is 00:41:34 that have already put out there. I think Budweiser was one of them. They put out a whole labeled version of Bud Light where it was all alien like inspired and everything. Legos made specific alien type Legos for this. Like DeGernos got like pizza boxes. Really? Alien, Area 51.

Starting point is 00:41:54 So smart. I was like, oh man. Yeah, dude. Like the trend, the viral thing is really something that companies are trying to get like better at and get quick to everybody's paying attention to. Let's create a product in that direction. Oh, right away.

Starting point is 00:42:11 It's pretty crazy. That's great. I was just that, I took the kids to Baskin Robbins yesterday and they had Scoop-Sahoy all over. Remember Scoop-Sahoy from Stranger Things? Oh, yeah. So, basketball robins is working with Stranger Things and is creating themes, like making basketball robins look like the ice cream place that the kids worked at. It's Stranger Things.

Starting point is 00:42:36 Yeah, so smart. I know, right? That's really cool. Speaking of kids stuff, dude, you see Disney actually just had in-game surpass Avatar in the all-time grossing movie? Number one, they've done it. So they are officially not only that, but I didn't know this. I didn't know that when Disney acquired Fox, they also took the rights to Avatar. And so Disney beat them so.

Starting point is 00:43:02 That's insane. Bro, yeah. So Disney is like, owns like all the biggest grossing movies. I wanna know the payout. You don't wanna know what they paid James Cameron for that franchise. So they had the rights of that. And from 2021 to 2026, they already have plans

Starting point is 00:43:17 to release four sequels to that avatar. Well, see, I had no idea about that. I'm not a mob club. Yeah, I knew that they'd already filmed and shot like for they're pretty much done in terms of like just filming with the actors like they did them all in succession already. Oh they did. Yeah, so it's like the contents are already there now they're just going through them all but yeah, they're they're gonna launch them all like back to back to back and just kill it and box on. Disney's, my opinion is smart by in the market.

Starting point is 00:43:46 I mean, back in, we've been saying that for over a year. Well, back in March, which luckily I bought shares, back in March, they were at around $110 a share. Now, and then this was, you know, they real quick bounced up. Now they're playing around $140 range per share. I got them at $100 flat. Yeah, I think that they're going to be,

Starting point is 00:44:05 I think they're going to keep going up even higher. Too long to dominate. And they haven't even really done the streaming service yet. Wait, and here's what's so brilliant about that. And I know I keep talking about how they're going to take over. You may be right that multiple streaming services will be around. Yeah, but they have their fingers in all of them.

Starting point is 00:44:23 Yeah, that's the thing. Exactly. And not only that, but what they're doing in all of them. Yeah, that's the thing. Exactly. And not only that, but what they're doing and what I think is so smart is it's Disney. So they're going to own the kids, which if you own the kids, you own the market for the next 20, 30 years. Exactly. So maybe Netflix is doing well with amongst us

Starting point is 00:44:37 because they're playing to us like the Stranger Things, which is peals to our generation very well. But Disney is like, I don'm gonna fuck about your generation. You're supposed to be dead in 40 years here. So I'm worried about the generation coming up right now. That's five, you know, in 10, and that's who they're gonna end up catering to, and then once they have them,

Starting point is 00:44:55 they'll have them for the next, you know, 50 years or whatever. I'm gonna get more, I'm gonna get more Disney shares, I think. Well, I'm on board with that. Bye. This quad brought to you by Organify. For those days you fall short on getting your organic veggies or whole food nutrition, Organify fills the gap with laboratory-tested certified organic superfoods to help give your health a performance-the-edited edge.

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Starting point is 00:45:40 You know, I haven't told the story of vibrating foam rollers for a little while. I remember that one. I can spend a couple times. Yeah, years ago. It hasn't really. I'm going to tell it again. Just for a good deal.

Starting point is 00:45:48 I mentioned you listening. No, a long time ago, I bought one of the first vibrating foam rollers from PerformBetter. Not many of PerformBetter.com. Yeah. And I get it, and it was weak. It had this little knob that you turned on or whatever. So I'm like, whatever, I put it in the corner, never used it again. I had a client come to the gym with their kid,

Starting point is 00:46:06 which I would have oftentimes at a small studio, and the kid was playing with it, and pulls the center part out. That's the vibrating part, and it's a fucking old school dildo, old school vibrator. That was, that's what they did, perform better, bought a bunch of these vibrators, like hopefully not previously used.

Starting point is 00:46:24 Yeah, put it in there, and they said, oh, it's a bunch of these vibrators, like hopefully not previously used. Yeah, put it in there and they said, oh, it's a vibrating foam roller. Anyway, it's a toss story again. That true story actually happened, I wrote to them, got to refile. There's a lot of value in foam rolling. I think there's a lot of things that we didn't understand or were mistaken about originally.

Starting point is 00:46:44 Like we used to tell people that you were breaking up scar tissue. didn't understand or were mistaken about originally, we used to tell people that you were breaking up scar tissue, adhesions and knots that were on the muscle fibers. So the understanding of the foam roll, I know that I was wrong about for many years, but I do see a lot of value in it. Now, I like how they worded it as a short term solution because it isn't addressing the root cause though still. So there needs to be more work than just

Starting point is 00:47:10 the foam roll. So using a foam roll can be beneficial to give you temporary relief so that you can get into positions or do movements that will help promote better patterns. But as far as using it only, and like what I think a lot of trainers do, which is that, and I was guilty of this, having my client foam roll for 10 to 15 minutes before we do our workout, and that was it. Like you foam roll for 10 to 50, roll the IT band,

Starting point is 00:47:37 roll your calves out, roll the piriformis out, and then you see me, and then I would train you, and yes, it gave them temporary relief. Yes, it allowed us to exercise better, but I wasn't addressing what was continually causing all those knots in them. So that's where you have to go deeper. Yeah, I like it as a targeted self-massage to unlock better movement. In terms of, if I have a limitation and I know with me and my hips I'm constantly battling just

Starting point is 00:48:05 like trying to make sure I get in mobility practice but sometimes I let it go a little too far and I just get really restrictive and so it does help me to you know gain back a certain range of motion and also alleviate some pain. So there's definite value in it. It is a great way to alleviate some pain but I do see it more as a temporary solution and mobility practice being my go-to from then on out. I used to foam roll all the time before a workout. That was like definitely something I prescribed my clients.

Starting point is 00:48:36 When we started this podcast, when we started this podcast, I know Sal used to talk about it. I did two, the first 10 to 15 minutes of every workout I spent foam rolling. And it wasn't until I really start to work on, until I saw a break and then really started to address my mobility and was introduced to FRC.

Starting point is 00:48:56 And then I completely just stopped using it. And all I did was mobility priming before I got into a workout and never looked back ever again. Yeah, you have to understand kind of what muscle is and what it does to understand the benefit of things like foam rolling. So if I peeled one of the muscles off your body and put it on the table, it would be extremely pliable.

Starting point is 00:49:24 It would have lots of flexibility. It would, essentially, you wouldn't know the difference between a tight muscle and a loose muscle. If I took a matter of your body and put them on the table, the difference is when it's in you or on you, I should say, is your central nervous system. Your CNS is what controls the muscle and makes it feel tight or loose.

Starting point is 00:49:46 It's what gives muscles their ability to stretch in a long-gay or to stay tight and to stabilize, you know, your joints or whatever. So it's all about the central nervous system. And so what happens when you apply pressure on a muscle is it sends a signal to the CNS that says, relax. Now at first it tightens up. So if you've ever had a deep tissue massage

Starting point is 00:50:06 and you have like, let's say you have tight traps, right? Real tight neck muscles or whatever. And the massage therapist pushes on them hard. At first, it's like, ah, it hurts. But then if they keep the pressure on their lung enough and if you kind of allow yourself to relax and you're not holding your breath and tensing everything up, all of a sudden you feel what massage therapists will call a release.

Starting point is 00:50:26 And it's just your CNS going, okay, we can chill out a little bit. Now why are some muscles like this on you? Well, it's a protective mechanism. If you have poor movement patterns, if you've had a previous injury or emotion, emotion will do this as well. You can get angry or stressed out

Starting point is 00:50:45 or you can feel a particular way and it'll cause your body to tighten up and hold your shoulders and your body in a particular position. So all those things can affect how you hold your muscles. But if you have these poor movement patterns or you have these emotional patterns that happen and now you've associated a movement pattern with it,

Starting point is 00:51:03 the you can get the CNS to kind of chill out for a bit. So let's say your mid back lacks strength to support your shoulder girdle, then there's other muscles that are going to take over. And then those muscles are going to stay tight to protect your shoulders from injury. And so you may have really tight neck, and not know why the hell your neck is so tight. If your IT band, which runs along the side of the leg, that's the most common place people will foam roll. If that's always tight, it's probably because your hips

Starting point is 00:51:36 or your ankles don't have the right kind of mobility. And so the IT band is just tight to protect your knee, now we work in overtime. That's right. And what will happen when you foam roll, is it tells those muscles or tells a central nervous system, it's okay right now, through some, through mechanism, we don't fully understand,

Starting point is 00:51:55 but it tells that area to chill out and relax. Now, why is that part of a long-term solution? Because like Adam and Justin said, now when I get that to relax, I can move in a way that will strengthen better movement patterns because what ends up happening when these things become tight consistently, you get inflammation and pain. You're overcompensate. And now when I move, because I'm tight and in pain, I move that way.

Starting point is 00:52:19 And how am I going to, how can I strengthen a movement pattern if I can't get into that movement pattern if I can't get into that movement pattern? So foam rolling is 100% part of a long-term solution. By itself, it is not a long-term solution. Standard. It is a short-term solution all on its own. Also how the vibrating plate and the vibrating foam roll works to your point. Same thing, that just relax.

Starting point is 00:52:42 It's just sending it to, I remember the first time that we did the plate, and it was like, oh shit, okay, I get it now, I see what's happening, because I was like, what's the big deal about these vibrating plates that everybody swears by how amazingly on it? It's like, all it did, and I remember because this was during the time

Starting point is 00:52:58 when I was really working on the depth of my squat, and I just didn't have the hip mobility, and I was a tight cat, and now the ankle mobility didn't have any of it, and I got on there, and I got into a really deep squat, and I was a tight cat and I had the ankle mobility and have any of it. And I got on there and I got into a really deep squat and I was like, oh shit, this is a trip. And what it is, just that vibration, it's scrambling that hardwired signal that everybody was getting that, no, we can't move this way.

Starting point is 00:53:17 We got to stop all the governings need to take a look. It actually, it's like it confuses the CNS. Every vibration, every oscillation tells the CNS to tighten, relax, tighten, relax so fast that it almost, it's like you're on your computer and you hit a button that scrambles it and it doesn't know what to do so it shuts down. So it's like your CNS is like, what do we do?

Starting point is 00:53:39 And it just, it's short circuits. And all of a sudden you have this all this new range of motion and you can get into positions you couldn't get into before. So vibration does this very, very well. You take a foam roll. Now, here's a thing though. It's got to be a good, powerful vibrating foam roller.

Starting point is 00:53:55 It can't be like the crappy one that I talked about earlier. It can't be a dildo. No, don't roll with a dildo. No, that's strong enough. But some might, yeah, surprising. Although, I'm sure there are some that are strong enough. I some might, yeah, surprising. Although, I'm sure there are some that are strong. I might make it sway somewhere. Yeah, but anyway, maybe the Hattachi one that you plug into the wall. Okay, that's an old school reference there to a good one.

Starting point is 00:54:12 But anyway, someone knows their deal, though. Yeah, he's been in the game. Let me tell you, bro, I do my research on things I'm into. But anyway, a foam roller that vibrates very strongly A foam roller that vibrates very strongly will probably work better, cause a little bit less pain, allow you to foam roll a little bit longer. But it's definitely a part of a long term solution. Here's how I like to use foam rolling, okay? If somebody's really, really bad at getting to certain positions, I will use it before a workout, depending on the individual. A place where I think it should be in most people's routines is at the end of a workout, depending on the individual. A place where I think it should be in most people's routines

Starting point is 00:54:47 is at the end of a workout. I love it at the end of a workout to prevent the occasional tightening up of areas that then prevent this solidifying of the signal that you sent with your workout. So what could happen is you could do all some mobility movements, strengthen new ranges of motion, then afterwards find yourself start to tighten up,

Starting point is 00:55:06 and then almost erase the signal that you just sent, because now you're so fucking tight that you're moving like a robot. So at the end of your workout, you throw in foam rolling, and that helps prevent that from happening. But it has to be targeted, and it has to be individualized.

Starting point is 00:55:20 So like a maps prime, we actually recommend foam rolling at the end, we call it the post priming, because we always talk about pre priming, like prime before you work out. There's actually post priming as well, not quite as important, it's still important. At the end, if you foam roll in a way

Starting point is 00:55:35 that is beneficial to whatever your movement pattern issues are, you'll see your progress. And the first time I experienced this, really, wasn't with foam rolling, it was with massage therapy. When I had my studio, I had a massage therapist that worked for me who was the best massage therapist I'd ever worked with. She knew the body like a really experienced personal trainer. And that was because she worked with really good chiropractors for years and years and years. And what we would do, depending on the client, if I had a client who,

Starting point is 00:56:04 let's say it was so hard, it would be hard for me to just get them to get into a position like a common one. Let's say somebody had just really bad forward shoulder. I'd say her name was Devon. It's okay, Devon, John's gonna come in, super bad forward shoulder. She knew she would work on his pecs, his shoulders, and his upper traps,

Starting point is 00:56:23 because those were the muscles that were just keeping him from getting in the proper position with my rose. Then I would do the rose with them, and they would get in a better position. Then I would have clients that would see her afterwards, and I'd say, okay, this person gets really flamed after we work out, things get tight. I'd like them to see you post-work out.

Starting point is 00:56:39 Boy, those people who saw both of us, their progress used to blow me away. What would take me normally three months of work with a client was like cutting down to a third, like a month, and I would see the same kind of progress. So that's when I really started valuing these kinds of tools and foam rolling, not as good as a really good massage therapist, obviously, but way less expensive. And if you know how to apply it, it could definitely be a part of a long-term solution. Next question is from Ricky Train.

Starting point is 00:57:10 How would you approach your training or nutrition for combat sports such as boxing or MMA? Man, MMA is getting so popular now. A lot of people are training kickboxing, boxing, juiu-Jitsu way more than ever before that I remember. You know, here's a thing, this is true for all sports now. I think one of the mistakes people make when they will play a sport, but they're also a gym fanatic,

Starting point is 00:57:36 is that they have a tough time prioritizing one or the other. I had this, this was a popular question at the live event. Yeah, I was, I had three different people that asked, and it was an MMA, actually, I think one was snowboarding, another one was swimming, and the rugby guy. So, yeah, this is a very common question. And a lot of times, the things, the things they want to accomplish,

Starting point is 00:57:59 or another one was a triathlete, right? So, a guy wanted to be a triathlete, but then he also wanted to build muscle and get in shape. And it's like, yeah, I want a body building to triathlete, right? So a guy wanted to be a triathlete, but then he also wanted to build muscle and get in shape. And it's like, yeah, I want a body building to triathlete. How do I combine it? Yeah, and they're asking like how I would train. And I said, well, it's not that you can't try and train for both. Does it mean you can't lift weights to build muscle?

Starting point is 00:58:17 Does it mean you can't also train for triathlon? But something's got to give, especially when you're going after conflicting modalities. So you just got to- Some conflicting adaptation signals. Right, right. So you have to be okay with giving a little on one of them. So what I always, what I said to all of them,

Starting point is 00:58:34 which is, you know, which one of the two is more important. And whichever one of the two is more important, that's what you prioritize. And then the other one is maybe one or two days a week. That's it. So if it's like, you really care about building muscle, well then build a training program that's probably three, four days of lifting and then one day of running or swimming or something a week. And then if it's the other way around, we're swimming with a triathlon, triathlon

Starting point is 00:58:58 is more important. That should be three or four days a week and then you're only training one day or two days of weight training. You know how it just took me a long time to learn. When I first started doing jujitsu, obviously I've always been in the resistance training and it was real hardcore into it. And I made a big mistake, which was I kept up my normal resistance training and then went all in with jujitsu.

Starting point is 00:59:20 You're asking for an injury, doing stuff like that. I learned real quick that I sucked at everything. I didn't progress anywhere because it was just too much. And at some point, maybe a year or two into Jiu-Jitsu, I was like, okay, I want to just, oh, you know what it was? I did my first tournament a year into it and I lost.

Starting point is 00:59:38 And that lost made me go, okay, am I going to compete again? If so, I'm going to take this super serious. So I took my resistance training down from five days a week to once or twice a week, just like Adam's saying. And I was doing Jiu-Jitsu three to four days a week. And then my progress skyrocketed.

Starting point is 00:59:55 So if you're a boxer or you train an MMA or Jiu-Jitsu and you love it and you wanna like get better at it and use resistance training or training to augment it. Honestly, once a week, probably is enough. Actually, once a week might be ideal for you, in this case, especially if you're doing three or more days a week of this other type of training. I'd say one to two.

Starting point is 01:00:18 That's what I would say, just depending on, obviously there's gonna be some people that can handle more resistance training. And just because you can do three or four can handle it, doesn't mean it's optimal to your point. So I can tolerate all this damage, therefore it's ideal. No, it's not just about tolerating it. It's about progressing.

Starting point is 01:00:34 So the best results I ever got with the people that I trained that did that were hardcore into MMA and Jiu-Jitsu was a one day a week, not on the day that they're doing anything else. So it's a day dedicated to itself. And it was a full day a week, not on the day that they're doing anything else, so it's a day dedicated to itself. And it was a full body resistance training routine. And depending on the person, it would depend on, there were a few factors that I would consider, but oftentimes,

Starting point is 01:00:56 what it looked like was a traditional full body routine focused on compound lifts. And doing and focusing on what resistance training does best, which is make you stronger. So I wasn't trying to mimic boxing or jiu-jitsu with weights. That's a big mistake. I see a lot of guys doing like they're like, oh, I did jiu-jitsu four days a week. And then, you know, two days a week, I lift weights and well, how do you lift weights? Oh, I do all kinds of crazy circuits and I don't have any rest because that's best for, no, no, no, no, no. You've seen a lot of improvement,

Starting point is 01:01:24 though, and a lot of these camps and where they sort of separate this out in terms of like which coaches they bring in timing wise, which ones work with like certain grappling skills, which one then comes in and you know, depending on their opponent, like it's really lasering in a lot of like specialty type skills and training and like how you time that all out specifically. So it's a pretty complicated answer to give you in terms of what's gonna be best in terms of weight training and what stage are you in?

Starting point is 01:01:55 In an off-season sort of where it's like, I'm just working on strength right now, are you in a camp where you're on a clock now or you have a certain amount of days before you're first bout and you know, what that all looks like. It all has to be drawn up like very methodically. And I think that, I think this is like one of those questions that's like for me, it's nails on a chalkboard

Starting point is 01:02:19 because it's like it's so general. Like this is a very specialized question. You need to get like really good coaches to draw this up for you and, and be able to manage your stress. Uh, so it's appropriate because it's one of the most stressful things you could possibly get yourself into. Well, what I, what I found with the people that were asking me the question to the live event and it's probably so here is they tend to be people that are more weakened warrior-ish

Starting point is 01:02:47 Like the triathlete guy So you guys yeah, you make sense with the one to two times a week, right? He's not he's not trying to be you know break any records or you know progress year over year and become this Super bad ass or the same thing with the skit a guy that was swimming and the girl that was snowboarding She just you know how I want to get better, you know, and so it's like So for those people my answer always is just, you know, whichever one is more the priority. And I'm going through an example of that right now with swimming. Like it was just what a couple of months ago, I was like, hardcore talking about getting

Starting point is 01:03:14 into swimming and I was and I was doing a lot of it. So much to the point that my aesthetics were starting to suffer. I wasn't body-scal, I wasn't building muscle in the gym. I was, most of my time was in a pool and so... Yeah, to make a choice. Yeah, and I did. And I chose because I do still like to look muscular and be strong and lift weights. I scaled way back on the swimming and I've been lifting way more weights because I didn't like the direction it was going. It was too much swimming, not enough weight training. And as much as I want to get into swimming,

Starting point is 01:03:47 I'm not gonna do anything with it. I'm not trying to be a pro swimmer or anything like that at all. I wanted to learn the craft, I wanted to get a little bit better at it, but not at the risk of losing my physique. And so I made adjustments. So this is the same thing for anybody. Like if you are into a sport, sports

Starting point is 01:04:07 aren't most all sports, unless you're into bodybuilding as a sport, is not geared around aesthetics and looking and building muscle and losing body fat. It's the way you look as a side effect of it. Yeah. Right. It's a sports or performance based. And so there are going to be different, different goals. So different goals. So just prioritize the one that's most important to you. The other one is probably one to two days a week. Now, I'll be general. I'm gonna give you guys a general answer here. For the average person listening,

Starting point is 01:04:34 you're probably not a hardcore competitive MMA athlete looking to become pro. The average person just likes to do it, likes to do Jitsy, likes the box. If you like those a lot, here's a good general routine that you can do once a week. Do a full body routine, five by five, five sets, five reps, pick four, to maybe max five compound lifts. I like four.

Starting point is 01:04:57 Go to the gym, maybe do a squat, a bench press, a row, and something else. Five sets, five reps, that's it once a week. And that should improve your strength in your other sports where you can see that kind of carry over. I just laugh, because those are like the two worst sports to pick as a leisurely activity. What?

Starting point is 01:05:18 You know, it's like, yeah. I just want to kind of like to box and you know, do you have an A occasionally? What the fuck are you doing? Jiu-Jitsu is actually great though. Yeah, Jiu like kind of like to box and you know, do you know do you have a make occasionally? What the fuck are you doing? Kajitsu is actually great though. We did get to it. We didn't answer the nutrition part. I did give it nutrition advice to the people

Starting point is 01:05:31 because they asked the same thing. When you're a point, probably the biggest mistake I see was someone who's trying to improve their aesthetics and then also play a sport is dieting while they're doing this. Oh man, your performance goes down the tube. Right, and so that was my advice to all of these people that were asking this question is, okay, if your priority is this sports

Starting point is 01:05:52 and you wanna get good at it, and overall you wanna have a better physique, don't make the mistake of also dieting really hard because then not only is your performance gonna go down, but then you're also sending the signal for your body to become more efficient with calories and slow your metabolism down. So stay fed. But then you're also sending the signal for your body to be more come become more efficient with calories and slow your metabolism down. Yeah. So stay fed. So if you're into if you're doing MMA, you're doing boxing, you're doing snowboarding, you're doing swimming, you're doing triathlons, and you also want to be fit and stuff. Don't make the mistake of also

Starting point is 01:06:16 dieting during this whole process where you're trying to accomplish these two things, stay fed because if you also diet really hard and you're pushing the body's limits, now you're going to you're going to you're going to hinder your performance in whatever sport or thing you're doing. And then in addition to that, you're also sitting a signal the body to adapt and become more efficient with calories and potentially slow down your calories. The only people that should diet are people trying to make weight for a particular sport. Other than that, eat entirely for performance focus zero of your diet on aesthetics.

Starting point is 01:06:46 And the reason why I'm saying that is this. If you, just like Adam said, if you eat for aesthetics while you're trying to perform, you'll lose performance and you lose aesthetics. If you eat for performance, you'll gain a lot of performance and you'll also keep a lot of aesthetics. So if you're playing a lot of a sport and you're doing the weight training to supplement it or to augment it, so that's your favorite thing is the sport and the weight training is supplementing it. Eat for performance.

Starting point is 01:07:08 You need that nutrition. If you eat for performance, you'll get both. You'll get some of both. You'll get a lot of performance, some aesthetics. If you just eat first aesthetics, you'll lose both. Next question is from Salinas 174. Should an individual who wants to lead other people first develop themselves as a leader or learn to be a team player first?

Starting point is 01:07:28 Oh, that's an interesting question. You know, it's funny. The older I get, the more I realize that the best leaders know when to follow. I think being a team player is being a leader. People who lead who don't feel like they're a part of the team, that's the kind of boss that is a bit tyrannical, a little bit ego, power, hungry. To be a great leader, you have to be humble,

Starting point is 01:08:00 you have to be selfless, you have to put others first, and you have to know how to play well in team. You're not a good leader in my opinion, unless you can do that. So I think it's necessary to first be a good team player before you can then lead others on a team. If you don't at first master that, if you can't be a part of a team of five or 10 or 20 people,

Starting point is 01:08:21 and know how to humble yourself, how to assist others, how to put others before you for the overall betterment of the team and for all of us to win. If you can't accomplish that, you most certainly can't accomplish leading all those people because you then have to teach all of those people to do that. We're going to miss a lot of crucial signs and signals if you don't go through the process yourself. I think that there'll be moments where you could say something that could totally change the direction and the momentum

Starting point is 01:08:50 of the staff or the team or whoever it is. And you would have more insight in that if you went through what they have experienced. So otherwise it's just like, I feel like you're, you kind of go back to your old go-tos of like how to rally everybody or just, you know, you kind of go back to your old go-tos of like how to rally everybody or just, you know, get everybody in line. Well, when I think back, like, to, when I try and unpack, and if I had questions like this

Starting point is 01:09:11 asked to me before when I've done interviews and where, like, my leadership skills came from, and I think a lot of it definitely derived from all the sports that I played and not being, like, the best player on the team having to be a role player and being okay with that. And I definitely accepted that role and enjoyed it. I was okay. I didn't need to be the man. I've been on teams where I was the best player, but not most of the time.

Starting point is 01:09:37 Most of the time I was not and most of the time I was a role player and and and totally enjoyed just being a part of that and seeing put it being a piece of the machine and watching it be executed and being okay with being the person who was assisting others to make them play great. And I think I enjoyed that so much like it like when I watched the game of basketball and I watch a play unfold. Man my favorite part is a great play and a great pass and assist. Like I, I enjoy that more than some, you know, flashy move that one guy made and then dunks the basketball. Like, I don't, that doesn't appeal to me. That's neat to see because you see this expression

Starting point is 01:10:16 of athleticism in one person. But the, the art of the game and team comes from watching all the players move together and execute a play and I love and assist more than I love anything else like that. And also a question like this that comes to my great books that come to mind. It's two of my favorite books both are John C. Maxwell's. The first one and I give this to all people that are interested in leadership and that is developing the leader within. So that's a great first one to read and then the follow-up to that is developing the leaders around you. So those two books speak to this exact question. Yeah, this is something that inadvertently has been of interest to mine just because I like looking,

Starting point is 01:11:00 you know, learning about politics and world leaders throughout all of history. And the most effective leaders of all of history were never the ones who desired leadership. There were never the ones who stood out and said, I'm the leader, follow me. There were the ones that were placed there by the people that respected them. There were the ones that were, I mean, George Washington, who won the, led as a general and won the revolution, when we won, his men wanted him to crown himself king of America, and George Washington said,

Starting point is 01:11:36 no, no, I don't want, that's not what we fought for, we fought not against that, and that's what makes George Washington, that's what made him so respected among his men and the people around him was that he he didn't desire that. He was placed there. He was placed there. And that's really what it's all about. You know, we watch, when you see on movies, you see like these these tyrannical leaders where they've got, the way they maintain their power is through fear, intimidation, manipulation,

Starting point is 01:12:08 and that works great in movies, doesn't last very long in real life and it's actually bullshit. The truth is, forever, for all of history, if you were a man or woman and you were leading and you were tyrannical in a piece of shit, all those people are conspiring to kill you. And at some point, you will be overthrown

Starting point is 01:12:26 because they didn't respect you. The leader that's placed there by the people underneath them, the one who's respected, the one who does not seek out and search for power, boy, that's an effective damn leader. That's the one that inspires the people under them. So, the only way to do that, in my opinion, is to be a team player first. That's number one. That's, you know, Adam said a humble. I can't stress that enough.

Starting point is 01:12:53 That's the most important attribute of an effective leader. Now you can become a leader by, you know, standing on a mountain declaring yourself the leader, maybe being the most powerful, loudest one, saying that you're the greatest, whatever. That might work for a second, but it doesn't work for very long because, again, there's a lot of people under you. And what you don't want is you don't want a team that fears you, but doesn't respect you,

Starting point is 01:13:17 who doesn't love you, and who doesn't think that you have their best interests in mind. So it's interesting because the people who tend to ask these questions, how do I become a leader? And how do I, it's like, by not asking that question, oftentimes, seeking it out and wanting that kind of power, oftentimes is a sign that you're probably not, and I remember this, I would have people on my team that I would give them these opportunities

Starting point is 01:13:42 and put them in charge of a weekend or whatever. And I'd see that they were the fucking boss that was, that was, that was not, do that and that. And you know manipulative. And I'd be like, well, that person's not going to be very effective long term. They're not going to develop the kind of, they don't have the skills or the understanding to, I mean, what is it? It's like, there's the leader that sits on the mountain and yells at everybody to charge,

Starting point is 01:14:05 and then it's the one that runs forward, and then everybody just follows. It's a big difference. I got my first leadership role, not because I was trying to get it at all. I remember when I got promoted, and part of what got me promoted was, as soon as I got on the team, the fitness team,

Starting point is 01:14:24 and there's a team of trainers, there's 15 plus. I was like I've talked about before. I was definitely the youngest, the least educated, but I was probably the one of the best team players. I was always helping all the other trainers. If I learned something new, I was passing that on to all my peers. It was something that I thought was very odd

Starting point is 01:14:43 that nobody else did that. Everybody else was very about themselves. I wasn't like that. If I learned something new that helped me with my business that made me a better trainer that made me more successful, I looked at my staff, the trainers that were a part of the same team as I was as part of our team. Like I did in sports, I passed them the ball. I would share that information with them.

Starting point is 01:15:02 I did that on and off hours all the time. You were in a respect, right? Then I ended up earning all of their respect, which is what made the district manager recognize that I'd see that and then put me in a leadership role to where I then became all of their bosses, even though I was the youngest one. So I wasn't like, Oh, I'm doing all this because I want to become the boss or become a leader. It was just something naturally that I did. I've been a part of teams for a very long part of my or very long time and That's just a good team a good team player is always helping his teammates and trying to make all of his teammates better isn't just solely focused on himself and that integrity

Starting point is 01:15:35 Man is so important just being honest like it's such a that's such a big one. I really can't stand people in leadership positions that think that they have to Lie or manipulate the people under them because that's, in my opinion, that's a terrible leader and they're not gonna last. And what will end up happening is the people under them at some point, if they go off and do something else or surpass them, that respect is gone.

Starting point is 01:16:01 It was like false respect, though. You're in my boss right now. And they think they get a mean time. Yeah, and they think they're doing a good job by manipulating them. Oh, I get them to feel this way because I say this or what I was like, be totally honest.

Starting point is 01:16:11 You'd be surprised how much people respect that kind of integrity. You have to care about your people. Nobody cares how much you know until they know how much you care. And so you have to lead that way. And you have to do that before you become the leader because at one point, if you are leading those people, if you didn't do that before you become the leader because at one point

Starting point is 01:16:25 if you are leading those people, if you didn't show that you cared for those people, no one's going to follow you. I'm simply going to be walking alone. I had a really interesting experience a few days ago. I came in here, my kids were at a school and we popped in and I totally forgot that we were filming for a program and so there were like exercises and stuff. And so, I, first time I ever got to see Justin in his element doing his thing,

Starting point is 01:16:51 because what a lot of people may not know, and one thing I appreciate and respect so much about Justin is he's one of the most quiet, quiet, confident leaders I've ever met in my entire life. Never heard him try to proclaim himself as the guy in charge of anything. His confidence and calmness when he does it, it's actually, it makes you want to be a part of it. So I'm sitting there with my kids and I'm watching him orchestrate this whole thing and it was fucking really cool

Starting point is 01:17:18 to see that, to see, to see Justin doing his thing. And the thing I respect most about everybody in this room is depends on the situation or the element. Everybody rises to that. And the people underneath just follow, but it's a very genuine team. And it's pretty cool to be a part of, really. I really wanna get you into sports ball, dude. I'm telling you, man, we learned so many lessons

Starting point is 01:17:49 through that experience. And I mean, I could relate any analogy in terms of leadership and team building and business building and all that thing to my experience through sports. And you do have to rise when people are counting on you. And that's just something that you have to take upon yourself to, um, to do it and, and, and care about everybody else succeeding.

Starting point is 01:18:12 And that, that's a crucial thing that you have to, every now and then you got to pop up and you got to, you got to take the team with you and then you got to know when to sit back and, and everything is working. And so don't, you know so don't screw it up, just feed into it and help people where you can. Next question is from Jack J. Buffery Training. That's nice. If one of the other guys put you in complete charge

Starting point is 01:18:37 of their programming for 12 weeks, how would that look? You get to pick their goals. That's the way we're gonna train each other. You pick this one south. You know what, I like this question, because this is the truth. This is the truth. I don't give a fuck who you are. And yes, you know your body better than anyone,

Starting point is 01:18:53 but if you get a good trainer, like a really good trainer who knows you really, really well, in many ways, you'll probably get trained better by someone else than you will yourself in some ways, in many ways, I would say. And I'm definitely not immune to that. I think if Justin or Adam trained me, I think they would train me way better

Starting point is 01:19:15 than I would train myself. I know my body very well, but I'm working out for a long time. I know what I need to do, but I have my favorite things and I have things that I don't enjoy. And I'll include nutrition in there as well if we threw that all in there. And I think there would be things that Justin would have me do.

Starting point is 01:19:32 I know, I know. For sure I wouldn't do. I know right away what I would make you both do. So this person who asks this very clever question, I think this is cool. I would definitely have Sal run. And I'll use our program since it's probably easy for people, I'm not gonna say here and write out fucking Sal's 12 week program, that would take forever. But something along the lines of maps performance

Starting point is 01:19:56 with a heavy focus on mobility, that would be what I would force Sal into, and I would make him only stay in the five rep range for his three weeks, and then I would force Sal and two and I would make him only stay in the you know five rep range for his three weeks and then I would force him out of that in for a long period. I'm not going to hire you. And he would be doing a lot of mobility work. I would definitely be working on that with him. Justin I would probably train him very similar to like our map split program, which is very body builder, ask because I know that he trains mostly away from

Starting point is 01:20:32 that. And I think his body would definitely benefit the most from that. Nutritionally, I think the guys, both are pretty dialed for what their goals are. Obviously, if I made Justin go on a body builder thing, I'd, you know, put him on a, just like he did when he did his transformation. It'd be all straighting. Right, if we're gonna be like here. But nutritionally, I don't think there's not much that I would actually adjust for either one of the guys.

Starting point is 01:20:55 Nutritionally, I think they, you probably lower my cheese amount, dude, be honest. Oh yeah, okay, maybe I would kill me on that. Maybe I would a little bit. Put him on like a, not like a straight up pre-contest cut, but like a body builder type aesthetic type of cut. I think it would be different than that. That's what Justin would do.

Starting point is 01:21:13 Yeah, I think that would pull my eyes out. Yeah, that's how I think that's how I would train both you guys. Adam, I don't think I'd do anything with his training. He's really good at doing shit that he's not good at. But with nutrition, I, one thing that I would do with Adam is I would have him, I would go over all of his food in tolerances and I would go over all the foods that tend to bother his gut that he ignores sometimes,

Starting point is 01:21:37 not always, actually you're really good at it now. But I would take out, you know, when you have your artificial sweetener's gluten and certain things and I would make you go real strict with some gut health testing, not because I necessarily think he needs it, but I know that that's the one area that he isn't super, super interested in. Justin lately has been much more interested

Starting point is 01:21:57 in that kind of stuff, and I agree with Adam, put him on a body builder, it'd be fun to see him fucking hate the whole thing the whole time. A lot of fun. Chip on stage and a little man Keeney. Yeah, no, no, I'm gonna go that far dude. I'm gonna make you do it. It's got such a solid base.

Starting point is 01:22:13 I think I can turn him into a monster dude. Oh, I mean, I think if I put him on, if he actually cared enough, he's already gets so much attention from the female fans that if he did that, it would be stupid. I just think I can sculpt the fuck out of dude. I mean, he's not like, you and I just said, you try to close your nose.

Starting point is 01:22:26 You and I had nothing to work with. You know, I feel like you and I had to build up for every cause of like, we've adjusted, I feel like it's got such a better base that I would have turned him into a monster for the bodybuilder. I don't know, yeah, you'd have to do a lot of convincing in that direction.

Starting point is 01:22:40 I don't know about that. Yeah, I think, like, Sal, for me, it would be a really fun experiment. I think just getting him to move. I'd frustrate the shit out of you. Oh my God, I would love it. Lateral jumps. I would just see his face. Every time we're doing an exercise, it was super functional.

Starting point is 01:22:56 And you just feel like so pissed off. It would be great. I would definitely have him in a performance type of based program where I could definitely work more on lateral movement, twisting rotational movements, things like that that get some out of his set and stone deadlifting like frame. You've mastered that, and let's do other things. And then, you know, with Adam, like he said, he experiments a lot with different, it wouldn't be a hard to convince Adam to do things. I think what would be fun would be though to take him

Starting point is 01:23:28 more back to his athletic roots and take him into the peak performance stuff. I actually would love that. Which we kind of were flirting with at one point, but to get him power. Yeah, and even Olympic lifts and things that super, super challenging, but now that he's done all the work, mobility wise, mobility wise to you know fortify his joints I think you know that would be a great progression and to see him then get back even though you know He had a bad experience getting back into basketball. I think that if we took enough time, you know It could really like get everything just right so all the mechanics were in place and he could play again like at a high level

Starting point is 01:24:03 So that would be like a challenge for me. I would love the train in that direction. As far as nutrition for you guys, you guys got it. I mean, I think for me, if anything, it would be to bolster up your guys' calories quite a bit. So I'm not like sitting here all alone. Just like eating all the food. So we stopped talking about it for a while.

Starting point is 01:24:26 I'm like, oh man, it's so much better. This side of life. You know? It would be nice creamer. It would be hard to train each other. I think because you probably give each other a little push back and it would be a little argument. And we're like, man, who do you think would be the hardest

Starting point is 01:24:38 and who would be the easiest? I think I'd be the easiest to train. I'm so open to like, what you just, what you probably would be the easiest to do. Yeah, what you guys both have said I'm like fucking bring it. I would love to do that. I love I love that idea work I think you would fight me too finale make you do Didn't you on the ground and be like because I know what it took for my my ankle and my hip mobility the amount of effort

Starting point is 01:24:58 And work that I put into that man. I can't express and I get asked us a lot like you know Oh, what did you do to just like you know, what it is is I just, I fucking did a lot of it. All the time. All the time I thought about it. I had to get competitive with myself. In order to move the needle as far as I did, from moving it was probably the stiffest one of all of us

Starting point is 01:25:21 when we first got together to now being one of the more mobile ones of us, I had to like, I had to be competitive about it. I had to be like, this is my goal. I'm going to be this, you know, and I had to be thinking about it all day long, just like I wouldn't any sport or anything else I did. So that I know would probably drive you crazy if I was constantly, you know, no, we can't deadlift today. So we're going to get, we're going to do combat stretch for 30 minutes We're gonna do 90 90s for 20 minutes like no, we're not gonna squat today I'm fine. We let them deadlift for like three months. I would either

Starting point is 01:25:53 Because I didn't do a lot of that stuff during that time. I really did I'm like I'm right now You have to be you have to be seeing you literally focused on your goal. Yeah, I mean, that's just that's just the bottom line It would be funny. I think it'd be funny and fun, but yeah, too bad we're not gonna do it. Too bad it's not gonna happen. Yeah, sorry about that. Anyway, if you go to mindpumpfree.com, you can download our guides. They're all absolutely free.

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