Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1088: How to Determine the Best Weight for Each Set, Steps for Recovery After Working Out Too Hard, Ways to Develop Good Food Habits in Children & MORE

Episode Date: August 2, 2019

In this episode of Quah, sponsored by MAPS Fitness Products (www.mapsfitnessproducts.com), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about specializing in a specific type of training, the benefits and detriments of dropping weight each set, adding weight each set or using the same weight for all sets, how to "treat" kids with food, and steps for recovery after going too hard in a workout. Mind Pump Recommends the Jordan Harbinger Show Deep Dive: What to do when your purpose starts to suck. (4:43) Is there a market for ‘party’ drugs? (6:55) What supplements do the guys use on a consistent basis? (9:15) Why giving up meat won’t have much effect on the environment. The importance of looking at the WHOLE picture. (13:17) New research casts doubt on the safety of the world’s most popular artificial sweetener. (19:24) The binging of social media and would Government involvement be beneficial? (24:55) Why there will always be someone taking advantage of the system + the value of higher education. (28:40) Is mobility on the horizon for Sal?? (38:53) #Quah question #1 – Did any of you have a desire to specialize in a certain kind of training? And if so, how did your careers change when most people seem to want to lose weight and gain muscle? (49:50) #Quah question #2 – What are the benefits or detriments of dropping weight each set, adding weight each set or using the same weight for all sets? (59:16) #Quah question #3 – How do you guys approach treating your kids with food or do you do it at all? For example, going out for ice cream after a game or on a trip? How do you still communicate good food relationships and not risk developing poor habits? (1:04:44) #Quah question #4 – What are each of your steps for recovery after going too hard in a workout? (1:11:19) People Mentioned  Jordan Harbinger (@jordanharbinger)  Instagram Layne Norton, PhD (@biolayne)  Instagram Andy Galpin (@drandygalpin)  Instagram   Related Links/Products Mentioned August Promotion: MAPS Prime/Prime Pro ½ off!! **Code “PRIME50” at checkout** The Jordan Harbinger Show 205: Deep Dive | What to Do When Your Purpose Starts to Suck Visit Organifi for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code “mindpump” at checkout** Why Giving Up Meat Won't Have Much of an Effect on Climate Change New research casts doubts on safety of world’s most popular artificial sweetener How Aspartame Became Legal Josh Hawley Wants to Ban YouTube's Autoplay Feature in the Name of Fighting Social Media Addiction Wealthy Parents in Illinois Have Transferred Kids’ Guardianship to Finesse Financial Aid Mind Pump 610: Dr. Andy Galpin Mind Pump Free Resources

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Salta Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this special edition episode of Mind Pump, now we are the leading podcast and fitness health and fitness health comedy. We have a lot of fun. Good time and we love educating people. Here's what we talked about in this episode.

So for the first 45 minutes, it was our introductory fun time, current events conversation. I talked about supplements and neutropics. I talked about my experience with the race attempt class of synthetic neutropics. And then we talked about the natural neutropics. One of our favorites is the one called pure, made by Organify.

We actually use it before every podcast. If you wanna check them out and check out some of their other organic supplements, go to organify.com, forward slash mine pump, and use the code mine pump for 20% off. Then we talked about the incredibly dense amounts of tree and plant gizz in the air. Otherwise, no one is pulling.

They, thanks. You're welcome. All over your face Justin. He's pregnant. Then we talked about how giving a meat may not positively affect climate change, like some of them people have us believe. When you look at all factors, it's far more complicated than people think.

I brought up a study on Aspartane, the European, European, it's just easy for me to say. Yeah. Food organization. That's right. In the bathroom. I'm a PN. The food organization has revealed that a lot of the negative studies on Aspartane were thrown out.

They only considered the good ones. So maybe it's not as safe as they say. We talked about how the government is looking to ban YouTube auto play because the government knows what's best for us. Yeah, thanks dad. Dude, as you're told, we talked about parents hacking college emissions to get their kids in sneaky dirty parents.

I talked about my new focus on improving my mobility and that's it. Then we get into the fitness portion of this episode and this is where we answer fitness questions. Here's the first one. This person wants to know if we ever had a desire when we were personal trainers to specialize in a certain type of training,

so to specialize in a specific type, and how did that change our careers? So we give advice to fitness professionals, whether you should or should not specialize and which areas will probably give you the best chance of success. The next question we answered was, one of the benefits of dropping the weight

with each successive set, or adding weight, with each successive set, or keeping the weight with each successive set or adding weight with each successive set or keeping the weight the same, do they have all effect the body differently? Is it irrelevant? Or is there some value? So we talk all about which one you should do and when. The next fitness question was,

how do we approach treating our kids with food? In other words, do we tell them, hey, if you finish all your dinner, you'll have a treat. We talk all about food relationships and that part of this episode and the final question. This person wants to know what our steps for recovery are after going too hard in a workout. And we talk about the signs that we look for that tell us that we might have gone a little too far with our workouts. Also, this month, this is the only time we've ever done this ever. Maps Prime and Maps Prime Pro, the two prime programs,

both are 50% off. These are two of them more expensive valuable programs, and they're valuable because, well, first off, Maps Prime teaches you how to set your body up, how to prime it properly before your workout. This will make your current workout far more effective. So if you spend 10 minutes priming your body properly, you're going to get better results

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and I don't think we'll be doing this again anytime soon. So here's what you do to get the discount. Go to mapsfitnessproducts.com and use the code prime50. That's PRIME50 for the discount act now. Also, I do like to listen to podcasts, and one of my favorite podcasts is the Jordan Harbinger Show. Now, Jordan, good friend of mine, Plumpy's actually in the studio with us right now.

You do a phenomenal job interviewing people, excellent job, in fact, we learn from you, but you also do episodes kind of by yourself, and one episode in particular, episode 205, you call it the deep dive. And this was about purpose. What do you do if you have a sense of purpose but then all of a sudden, you think my purpose sucks,

or this is hard or whatever. This was a great episode. Yeah, thanks. I appreciate this is near and dear to my heart because a lot of people who want to be come, even you guys, right, you start this, you build this amazing studio, and then there's gotta be days where you're like,

I don't wanna do this, or like this is a drag, or I'm feeling bad about this, you wake up on the wrong side of the bed, and that's when your business is going well. When your business is not going well, and you're grinding and you're not making any money, and there's other people that are kicking your butt, and competing with you, and driving you under water,

you start to think like, what did I do? Oh, maybe this isn't right for me because it sucks and my purpose is supposed to be great and grand and fun and amazing and energizing because you're looking at all these a-holes on Instagram. We were always having so much fun, right? So I was like, no, no, no, no, no, no, let's be real about this.

Sometimes when it starts to become a job, that's when we start to dig and do our best work. And sometimes when it starts to become routine, that's's when we start to dig and do our best work. And sometimes when it starts to become routine, that's when we realize, oh, this is the reality of the situation. Now I get to focus on what I like doing and all the stuff that I don't like doing, I can figure out how to hire for this

or how to systemize my business. It's kind of like when the honeymoon phase of your business or of your new career, your job, it doesn't, you don't have to own your own business to have this. It's when that starts to wear off, what do you do to hang in there and then regain that energy and keep going?

Because even if you're, whether you're a lawyer, a doctor, or you run a Mind Pump media studio, you're gonna go through this dip and you need to know how to handle it. It's normal and I found this episode inspiring. So if you're trying to find your purpose or if you found your purpose and now you're questioning whether or not that's actually your purpose, make sure you check out episode 205 of the Jordan Harbinger podcast. Thanks, guys. I can see a market for

a party drug. I really do. I can really see. No, that's what Aubrey failed that, remember? Well, he had that idea and Joe Rogan shot it down. He was a party recovery drug. Well, that is me. He had that idea and Joe Rogan shot it down and said, this was a party recovery drug. Yeah, that's, no, no, no. Let's talk alpha brain and boom. On it was on it was created. No, no, I'm not talking about a recovery supplement. I'm talking about a party supplement.

Like take this and enhance your, and go party. Yes, dude, and it would have MDMA. It would have, it would be legal. Justin, but it would have like, yeah, what's the legal version look like? Oh, I mean, it would be full of stimulants and feel good chemicals and stuff like that. And, you know, you take it and you're going to feel

fucking like, yeah, and you're going to feel more social. Here, a pre-workout. Well, how would that be different than a pre-workout? How would it be different? Yeah. Marketing. Oh, that's all yours. Of course. That's how it always is. That's not one of your best ideas. Pre-party. We developed a pre-party market. Pre-party. It's the alcohol before the alcohol.

I think that's already a thing right now is to take pre-workout before you go out and do some shit. Really? Yeah, yeah, that's a thing. I mean, we used to mix like speed stack with fucking shots before going. Oh my god. Wow, dude, that's Marley. Bro, I had the Frigirators of it in my house. Of course I did. You got to get rid of it, right? And I'm 25 and going out to the bars with my buddies on Friday. So absolutely, we rolled the speed stack out through some freaking vodka.

I did the Red Bull vodka, for sure. So that's not like a huge leap from that. I used to buy pure a Fedra tablets. So these were 25 milligrams of a fedra alkaloids, which was by law the most you could put in a tablet. So I buy those, I'd buy separate caffeine, and then I'd go to the grocery store, and I'd buy aspirin, because that's the combination.

That's the ECA stack. And I would just, you'd smash that before whatever. And I'll tell you what, it makes me marvel at the resilience of the human heart. Because, yeah. Because I mean, you think. You think. You think.

Bro, I mean, alcohol combined with that. Hopefully it doesn't shed down to 50 for us. Maybe not. Well, I'll say this on this podcast right now. If I ever die early, don't be like, oh, see, he's a wellness guy and he died early. No, no, no, no, I was a miracle. I lived as long as I did. Yeah. I made it. We're trying to repair the damage from, yeah, our entire childhood. Dude, speaking of pure, I know that organifi

peer we have almost every single podcast episode, right? We just ended up pounding ours before we got started here. What would you say? Because you're the out of the three of us, you are definitely the supplement guy who who who continues, even though you're you're an anti-subject. I call myself a recovering addict. Yeah, I'm still recovering. You still use the recovery. You still fuck around with them. Of all the brands of all the things that we mess with, what do you think you probably what which ones do you use the most consistent? What do I use the most on a consistent basis? Supplement-wise, I use the pure before every podcast and before every interview. Right, is there anything that you use more than that?

Probably not. I mean, the green juice, I take a lot when I travel because I've noticed that if I don't get my greens in, it starts to affect my digestion negatively, and it's a substitute, and now it's not an equal substitute. So actually somebody DM me and said, how much green juice would I have to drink to make up for my lack of vegetables?

I don't think there's any amount. I think you can't, you're not gonna get an equal trade, but it's better than nothing. Right. So that's when I'll use that. The immune I've been using... I just used that yesterday for the first time. Yeah, because I was starting to get

like a sore throat. So last night I had some zinc closages and then I tidy feel now. Yeah, I feel good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So actually, I was coming in today to work and I'm looking around in the sun shining through and you just see plant gizz everywhere.

Yeah, just, and I'm talking about Paul. That tree semen. Every, it's floating. Yeah, they're trying to fertilize everybody, and I'm just walking through it all, and I'm like, man, this is terrible. Rachel shows up and she's poor girl. She's like, I can't breathe this too much.

Well, I appreciate our homie next door, who, you know, Cleans off the sidewalk every day, but the only dropback is he uses one fucking blower. He picks it up right over a walk again. It's always when I'm just getting to work, dude. I was rolling up and he was doing it again. I'm like, fuck, bro. Oh, man.

I feel so bad because I don't want to say anything because I'm like, oh, you want to encourage it. Yeah, no, I can totally appreciate the love and taking care of the front of our shopping stuff. I think that's awesome, but I'm like, God damn, dude, it kills my allergy. Dude, you know, so for me, the pure, like, remember we were messing with all those different

new tropics? Like, we were really trying to make one land, like, and I was just not, I was trying really hard, like, maybe this one, dude, it not like it at all, and it would like, leave me with a bit of a headache or like something later, and the, honestly, this is the only one that like consistently.

We've been on it for a while. Well, it's good. The ones that I had you guys try back then were the synthetic metropics, puristatam, anorecetam. Yeah, I didn't do well in those days. Oxyceracetam, I had you guys try all the different versions. And I can see how they can work for some people.

But for me, if I use them consistently, I don't start to feel good. I just don't. So for me, I'll use a synthetic one every great once in a while, and I don't see a lot of value. Some people swear by him, but, and I know a dog, I gave him a dog a bunch of times, and every single time he gets a migraine, it just doesn't, and even though I'll give him co-ling with it and all the stuff you're supposed to have to fuel the extra whatever that's happening in your brain. Yeah. Without getting too complicated, he still gets ahead of you.

Here's what's interesting though about the race attempt class of Neutropics. So when I was getting deep into, I was reading all this research on it. They show in animal studies that it actually prevents the come down, the negative effects that happen post methamphetamine use or post MDMA use. So people who use drugs like MDMA, they'll take it and then they'll do the pericetam, I think they do it before, a little bit during and then after they don't get the same come down. I'm reading all these anecdotes and stuff, but there's animals that, anyway, it's kind of fascinating. I'm not advocating for that, by the way.

If you're listening to me right now, and you're like, I'm gonna try that. Yeah, at your own risk, I just thought it was a fascinating study. Speaking of animals, did you hear about the whole claim of how much like the green gas emissions from the green gas? I mean, CO2, CO2 emissions. That's a Justin Merchand. I didn't mean that. Green CO2 gas. CO2 emissions from, you know, farming agriculture and if we were to go vegan, that it would make this big difference.

That's been like a common theme that's been in the vegan community for like the last year. So they've been moved. Yeah, so there's this article that Jackie shared that I was reading that I thought was pretty interesting. They said, when you break it down and you do the math, not only is the amount it's responsible for, grossly exaggerated, but if every meat eater would have switched over to become a vegan or vegetarian, the amount that they effort that they would have to go out

to get vegetables, you would admit more of that in would have to go out to get vegetables, you would admit more of that in your car and shit like that. Yeah, that's the problem. That would counter it. And they said literally, it's talking, you're talking about maybe a 2% difference that it would make from being a meat eater going through. That's the problem. And also, I think this, and this is from a fitness professional standpoint.

If you're going vegan and people who are listening right now, who are vegans, who are serious about it and been doing it a long time, it requires a great deal of planning and care. You have to understand what kind of foods to eat so that you avoid nutrient deficiencies. You have to know how to supplement properly because there are certain things that are just very difficult

to get from plants. And so when you're talking about the average American who puts no effort and thought into eating anyway, and you convince them to go vegan, you're going to deal with a lot of health problems. You just are. Now, those health problems, how much money are Zach and Acosta's? How much problems are Zach and Acosta's down the line? So we have to look at all of the all factors and include the unintended consequences. And here's another good example. This is another good analogy and I'll use something that's totally different.

There's been a debate about minimum wage laws and whether or not those are damaging to business. Now, economists will tell you that, yeah, of course, you artificially raise the price of labor. You're going to have less of it, so it's going to cause problems and then people will come out and Bring studies and say look This town over here raised minimum wage, you know, by two dollars and they added 10,000 jobs Therefore minimum wage had no effect raising minimum wage had no effect on the jobs But the problem with that is we don't know how many jobs could have been added If they didn't do that so maybe instead of 10000, we would have added 15 or 20,000.

And that's the problem with arguments that sometimes other sides make or each side makes is they don't look at the whole picture. So going back to climate change, currently let's say we reduced greenhouse gas emissions by, I'll make up a number. I don't really know what the number would be, but let's just say we reduce it by 10% worldwide.

Well, that would cost a lot of money. It would. It would cost a lot of money because it's less efficient. It's less efficient at the moment. Technology doesn't make solar power as efficient as oil. It doesn't make a lot of these things just as efficient. It would cost more money. So now let's look at third world countries

or emerging economies where people are just made it out of poverty because we literally lifted in the 20th century We saw more people lifted out of poverty worldwide than we saw in the previous forever the previous all of human civilization It was just tremendous growth that we saw in the 20th century So if we increased cost and made things more expensive, less efficient and reduce greenhouse gas emissions, we may very well still see way more death because you have all these people who just made it out of poverty. Now we're going to knock them back into poverty. And wealthy people might not see this because we can afford to spend more money on trying to produce less emissions. There may be less productions of medicines

as a result, less efficient in other markets. And so we have to look at the whole picture. It's not as easy as saying, that's by our degradable, that one isn't. Look at the whole chain. Wait a minute, what does it take to produce that? How do we store it? How do we ship it?

What does that look like? What is that causing in terms of efficiency? How we transport things and all these different things? We have to take these, so it's's my point is I don't know the answer and it's far more complex than the politicians will lead you to believe. So when they say things like this is good for the environment. A lot of times look and see who's in their pack pocket. A lot of these politicians are being funded by companies that benefit and are asking for

handouts and subsidies. You know, like these solar panel companies in California, they get massive subsidies from California. And so it only makes sense that they're going to, you know, petition politicians and, you know, donate to them to promote this thing. And politicians are always going to try and sell a message that sounds really good. They're never going to tell you, hey, it's more complicated than that. We think it might work. And they're never going to ask the, that's the, that's my problem with politics in general. We start like creating bumper stickers to simplify like really complex nuanced, you know, items and things

that we all need to discuss and like put forth our own like solutions towards and listen to each other. No, let's divide everybody and just make slogans out of there. They're trying to win your vote. And they're just, they're very effective at, um, all the reality is a, is a majority of people won't do their research anyways. No. And that's the problem. That's the problem. If you actually look and look deep at the research and you, you start to account for all, all the different factors,

you, you start to slowly realize like, whoa, this is way bigger and more complicated of a problem than we realize. Like, those of us who are considered worldwide, consider wealthy, which is most Americans, like the vast majority of Americans. You know, if we look at things a little differently than if an emerging country that just got out of poverty, you have China, you know, had, I don't know, how many hundreds of millions of people that came out of poverty in the 20th century

Doesn't take much to knock them back into that into that situation and how many people die as a result of poverty and low access to clean water and medicine and all that stuff So we have to kind of, you know, we got to look at all the different factors and see what it looks like It's just really complicated speaking of complicated things, so this article was released recently. So University of Sussex, which is a big university in Europe, claims that the European food industry, or excuse me, European food authority has been bottling up alarming data or surrounding aspartame, one of the most popular artificial sweeteners for a long time. So, they found that they analyzed all these studies and looked at these reports and they

found that the European Food Safety Authority focused their final assessment almost entirely on the positive studies. So out of the 73 papers that deemed aspartame dangerous, they were all thrown out by the European Food Safety Authority. 84% of the studies that provided no evidence of its harm were the ones that 84% of those studies were considered. So like, wait a minute, all these studies that say that they're selecting, there may be issues,

why did we throw them all out? Please, can you set up a time where you and Lane can talk on InstaStory this day? Oh, I'd love to. It needs about the money. Yeah, I think it would be just a healthy conversation to have you guys to have and let other people listen to. And it's great because you guys are both friends

and you go to respect each other's opinion on stuff, but I think a lot of people will learn from that, you know? Oh yeah. Oh, there's big money in these artificial sweeteners, massive, massive money. And the way they passed and became legal, I don't necessarily have to go into it, but look up how aspartame became legal. Look at the people behind it, how it got approved. And you can see that, that doesn't necessarily mean that Aspartame's bad

for you, that artificial suitors are bad for you, granted. But it does highlight a lot of shady shit. And in my experience, when there's a lot of shady shit, that usually goes deeper. Like what you see is only the surface and it goes a lot deeper than that. And then of course, the way my experience is a trainer, I know that valuing food for its taste only

is a path down slippery slope. Yeah, bad behaviors around food and bad relationships of the food. And for people who are super interested in just their, and their aesthetics, sometimes having the natural barrier of calories is a good thing. It's great sometimes when you say, hey, look, they'll look at it, okay, there's some calories,

there's some negatives. But artificial sweeteners kind of paints the picture that there's no negatives. So it's like, but there's no calories. I can have as much as I want, and it just kind of reinforces that behavior. Well, that's why I want the two of you guys to discuss it, because it's too convenient of an idea.

I think that we get painted sometimes in this corner of like, oh, we're anti all that stuff. And it's not really, it's not really that it's an argument of what's the science support as far as is it bad for us or not bad for us. And it's more so the behavioral side that I think that we argue and discuss more, which is the part that I think a lot of the show has always been about is that The fitness industry's done a really good job of like, you know, oh what rep range is best for this? And oh what exercise ignore the most important stuff right exactly ignore the psychological piece that We're the person that's in their head that can't get to the gym for some reason or ignore the the reason why the person is driven

It gets the gym in the first place and like what drives all these bad behaviors to the other 23 hours a day. And so, because that's less arguable. Right. Like, when you're getting into like the studies out there, you could get, you could pull from both sides pretty easily. And so, I don't know, I feel like some people just drawn to that because then it's like you have, you know, a certain position that's pretty firm. You can argue a lot more effectively when you have like this data that you're spewing off.

Well, look, and this is a fact, you'll find many studies that have correlated weight gain and fat gain with artificial sweeteners. Now, does this mean that artificial sweeteners are causing their bodies to somehow store more body fat? It's highly unlikely, okay? There may be some strange mechanism that, you know, the way it influences potentially the microbiome. This is all speculation,

but it's probably, it's highly likely that the artificial sweeteners themselves are not causing weight gain. Now, why are they correlated with weight gain? Because they strengthen and encourage behaviors that make people eat more food. This is why. So people who consume a lot of artificial sweeteners, they tend to reinforce this behavior where foods value is, it's how tasty it is. And so it encourages that behavior. So when you take a bunch of obese

people with a bad relationship to food and you tell them, hey, just have artificial sweeteners from now on. So they don't lose weight because they replace it with other calories. And sometimes they gain. This calorie free waffle. Yeah. It's a better idea. Exactly. And I know in our space, especially with the people who work in fitness, oh, man, the worst eating behaviors I've ever seen. Yeah. They're terrible. And what do you get with these competitors? Oh, it's zero calories. Therefore, I'm gonna have 15 of them a day

or everything is gonna be sweetened. And to the point where they can't even, I know a lot of competitors that don't like water. They have to put, what is it called? That powder that makes it taste good. That's really popular. Crystal light. Crystal light.

Yeah, or whatever. Like, oh, it's no calories. It tastes good, that's really popular. Crystal light. Crystal light. Yeah, or whatever. Like, oh, it's no calories, it tastes good. And you need to taste like something. Yeah, you're just making things, you know, works for yourself. And we're not, nobody ever talks about this. Well, along the lines of more controversial topics, curious to what you guys think about this,

because I thought this was an interesting article. There's a senator from Missouri who is trying to pass a bill right now that will not allow YouTube to use the technology that allows people to do an auto play on YouTube. Why? So it's to reduce binging. And so this is why I wanted to talk about it because one, I agree with him. What I don't agree with is government getting involved to pass a bill and it makes sense.

I actually enjoy that. Right, right, and mandating it, right. I don't think this is something that we need government to get involved. So this is why it's a cool topic is because here's an area where I agree with the person who's trying to get this bill passing. I agree with what he's trying to do.

You agree, it does help. It does encourage Benjing. That's right. Like exactly. It encourages Benjing. I even think that's going to do. You agree. It does help. It does encourage Benjian to apply to their. Yeah, right. Exactly. It's encourages Benjian. I even think that's going to be a major problem in the future for us that these kids that are just addicted to these games.

I'm seeing it right now with my nephew and my brother-in-law having to deal with that. It's really tough, man. Once you let the cat out of the bag in these kids start that addiction to the phone right out watching parents try and reverse that is crazy right so I do understand trying to put things in places that make it that much more challenging for the kids to go binging but here's an example where I don't believe that's the responsibility of our government on the parents and it's not a it's won't be effective it just won't be effective it's a waste it'll be a waste of money, waste of taxpayers money.

It's virtue signaling from a senator. Hey, I care about something. Look at this vote for me or whatever. It's also a way for government to get their hands into regulating these markets because it's always that way, by the way. When they step in to do something, it opens the door now they can regulate more and more and more.

And now think to yourself, why would the government want their hands in something like YouTube? There's a very powerful medium. Right. Extremely powerful medium. And of course, they would want to have their hands on something that they can influence to get what they want or get people to think the way that they want. They already do that very effectively anyway.

Now, leave them out. I think, leave them out. There's no business in that. It's my fucking choice whether whether or not I'm gonna keep watching this or not. And at the end of the day, it's my responsibility. It's nobody else's responsibility. Don't let them go down that path of, you know,

trying to be your moral regulator or whatever. That being said though, we are, I mean, the time is coming and it's coming fast that these are the types of conversations that are making it to a way all the way up to. Yeah. So I mean, I think it's going to be interesting to see what we see unfold with this, this generation that's coming up right now.

And I think just the feedback from customers, like, you know, like if you sign a petition, most customers, like you let, like companies know this is something that you're concerned about, like I'm sure they would love to hear, you know, more from their customers experience and how they can improve. We have so much power. It's us that has the power. Do you know what would happen if everybody just told you to, we don't fucking like that? Yeah, they would change it.

So it's like, hey man, that's what people want. Now let's talk about it, let's discuss it, let's educate people, but then at the end of the day, it's up to them. They'll be more successful. It's the same thing with, you know, they have this whole issue with, you know, on the kid section where like certain ads would come in that we're gonna appropriate and like, you know, they wanna know that

because that's gonna mess their entire business up. Bro, it's persistent. It's like you're on the Titanic and then you're trying to use Scotch tape to plug up the hole at the iceberg. Like, good luck. Good luck trying to stop what's happening with technology with your regulation. It ain't going to happen.

Educate. Unfortunately, what will cause it or what will drive it is the backlash that will happen from all the... Speaking of regulation, so you remember back when they had that whole scandal with like trying to get people into universities and then throw that like. Oh, the parents were, yeah, they were finding a way to kind of pay

to get certain people to get them in. So there's more follow up to that, I guess. Like there's been a hack in terms of like wealthy families being able to pass along the guardianship for their kids. So that way, now they're with like Aunt Mary or whoever who is under a totally different tax bracket. So that way they can receive the grants

that they normally couldn't underneath. You know, they're wealthy, successful parents. Wait a minute. So what you're saying is, let me get this straight. So I make too much money to get government assistance or grants or loans like whatever, right? Yes. So I then will assign one of my poor family members

to be the guardian, therefore they qualify now for. Yes. Wow, that's slimy. So slimy, right? And this has happened to a couple different families. They've already caught in Chicago. It had like, you know, right? And this has happened to a couple different families. They've already caught in Chicago, where you had like, you know, doing those shenanigans,

but it's just, ah, it's just such shitty behavior. It's like, I can't, it's gross to watch, like stuff like that. Yeah, the irony is the reason why college is so fucking expensive is they've made it so easy to get money for college. You've got all this available money, so colleges are just expensive as hell.

And it's almost for no reason. If we didn't do that, they would have to bring the prices down. When you talk about things like that, it always makes me wonder, if it was possible for us to tease out, and I think of welfare too, how many people has it really helped, and then how many people are abusing the ability to use it.

How many people are taking advantage of the system because they can't? We'll part of it. We're always gonna be that. Yeah, of course, right? And there's always gonna be an interaction. And there's always gonna be somebody who was life changing for them.

It's always gonna be somebody who they lost their job, welfare, bridge the gap between the other one, and it saved their family, kept everyone together, and it's a crazy hoop-raught story. But then there's also gonna be the other side of somebody who manipulates this shit out of the system to do that. It's not even necessarily about the manipulation,

although that's terrible. It's that, okay, let me put it this way. Imagine if the government came out and said, everybody needs to own a car. Cars are so important, we need them for transportation, and people need to go to work. So what we're gonna do is we're gonna pass these laws to make getting a car loan pretty much guaranteed.

Like you're gonna get a car loan to help you out because everybody needs a car. So now money to buy cars is more readily available. It's much easier. How many more expensive cars would be sold than our sold maybe today? Far more. And so car manufacturers would compete for that money by creating more and more expensive cars would be sold, then our sold maybe today, far more.

And so car manufacturers would compete for that money by creating more and more expensive cars. So I argue that people wouldn't need to get loans for these expensive schools if we stepped out and allowed these places to have to fight for their real money. And Pete for the students. And let's be honest, we're in a position now in modern times where technology allows information to be shared almost for free. It doesn't make any sense why I'd book cost $300 at university or why it doesn't make any sense. They're so overinflated like

these college campuses and like how much money they're asking out of students now. It's absurd. It needs to be changed. The supply of money is too high. And the demand is artificial too, because we've sold so hard to kids that the only way to be successful is to go to college. And they use statistics like, if you go to college and you graduate,

you're gonna earn this much more for the rest of your life than if you don't. But the problem again with that statistic, that research, which is accurate, that's accurate research. But the problem again with that statistic, that research, which is accurate, that's accurate research, but the problem is you're lumping all the kids who didn't go to college into the same category. What they need to do is they need to take the kids

who didn't go to college, but who had, they knew what they wanted to do. They knew exactly what they wanted to do and they worked hard towards it. So they had a goal. Traitor, they created their own business. Whatever, compare those kids to the kids who go to college at the very least, or like I know what I want to to college at the very least, or like, I know what I want to study,

at the very least, right? So compare those. Or at the very best. At least they see value in education and learning and growth. Right, so I think that's more the important thing is because, you know, compare the group of kids that didn't go to college, but then still learned and wanted to grow.

Exactly, better themselves. Exactly, first is the ones that didn't go to college or they just don't give a fuck. Yeah, because now you lump in a bunch of fucking dropouts and losers and people who had no drive and no ambition or whatever, take those people out, compare like to like, and I bet, you know what you're gonna find? And in fact, you're in debt, here's another one.

Oh yeah. Factor in debt, don't just look at earnings, because yeah, you sure you may earn more money, but now you have $200,000 worth of debt, and the guy over here has no debt, and within two years he's making as much as you are, but you still have $200,000 with a debt. And the guy over here has no debt. And within two years, he's making as much as you are, but you still have $150,000 worth of debt left over or whatever. Factor all of that in, and I bet you what you'll end up finding is, unless you're going to do specific types of degrees in careers, it's less valuable to go to college,

then when you don't go to college so long as you're driven, motivated, and you know what you want to do, I bet if you factor it all out, that's what you'll find. Because there are careers like that, like you go to college and you get a degree in, you know, liberal arts or world history or anthropology, and you come out with like that ain't going to make you any fucking money, you're going to be in debt, it's just the fact, right? Yeah, yeah. If you go to college for like tech or certain fields require it, medicine or whatever,

then it might make some sense. That's what you gotta really look at. We've oversold it. So now kids are like, I have to go, can't afford it, get a loan, government guarantees that I get a loan. So now I'm graduate, four years later, $100,000 in debt, whatever.

You have to go in with the intent that like, okay, this is gonna apply towards something. This is not just me wasting time in like finding myself. Like you gotta go in with a plan and then, you know, apply that plan in real life and that's gonna make you your income. Dude, imagine a smart kid, think about it this way. Imagine if a smart kid didn't go to college

and I'll use myself as an example. It wants to be in the fitness industry. Goes and works in a fitness industry is passionate, does a good job, starts making decent money after about a year or two. I know I did, started making decent money, it was smart, has no debt, right? Cause they're going in, they're learning

and making money, so they have no debt, they're starting at a positive, and then they start to buy property and start to invest that property. Meanwhile, his twin brother or twin sister is still in college. They're year two or year three, they're racking up debt, they're not making any money.

Four years later, they graduate with $30,000 with a debt or whatever, however, $100,000 with a debt, whatever. But the twin brother who's worked, now has saved money, has invested, and sure they may graduate and come out making maybe a little bit more, but start doing the math, start calculating the debt and what's happening, who's in a better position? I don't know. I think it's a lot closer than you think.

Oh, that's me and all my friends. I'm the only one out of my group of friends that doesn't have his degree or his masters, right? Like most of my friends, some of them are continued on even further than that. So you have a lot of buddies of mine that have gone and they're all successful, right? So everyone's doing well. I don't have any. They're all hardworking smart people. Yeah, right. But I mean, it took them, it took them a good five years to even come close to where I was already at when I was 21 years old. And then it puts you in a massive hole. Right. And then

on top of that, they're all speaking to that. Sitting on 30 to $100,000 in debt that they still have today. Like, that's crazy in debt that they still have today. That's crazy to me that there's, I mean, and you just chalk it up as forever, I make this payment of $180 to $300 depending on how big your massive your loan was that's just forever. They just chalk that up.

Like I make $300 less a month because it just pays towards that. Well, and in some fields, what's really interesting, because I told this to my, my, my son's a, what's really interesting is because I told this to my my my my sons up He's very academic. He gets amazing. You know straight A's Loves the the stem, you know topics of science technology math. He's really good at math And so we talked about college and I'm very honest with him

I said well it depends what you want to do if it's a field that's gonna be profitable And it's the worth going into debt, then 100% you should do it. If not, then we need to look at other options because you have to consider, and this is just, I think you need to teach kids this anyway because they're going to learn this fucking less in the hard way whether you teach them or not. So I'm trying to, you know, have this conversation with them. But here's the reality, even with tech, you go to school to get a

degree in technology, you come out four years later, six years later with a master's or whatever, the stuff you learned the previous four years or five years, it's already obsolete. It's really the last year that you might even be able to apply, and so a lot of tech companies are doing now, is they're just starting to pluck, like okay, we want like sharp people

who are early in their degree. We want- Just indoctrinating them in their system. Yeah, we'll put you through our training course and we're actually going to pay you through the whole process. That's the way I look at it and text only advancing faster and faster. Do you really think I see a five-year degree in technology that what you learn the first four years, that it might not even apply? You know what I'm saying?

Just look at nutrition. Oh, terrible. Like, I mean, we were talking a little bit the other day. I was a lawyer. We just scratched the surface of it, but just to, like, if you have a nutrition a dietetics degree, think about the relevant information that you're gonna receive, even now,

in college versus like what we've all found through, like all these different people we've talked to that have completely different paths that brought them to different answers. So you have to look at it that way. It's like, okay, you know, okay, I'm passionate, I'm driven, I know what I wanna do. So I'm not gonna go to college,

and then you start working and you're like, man, I'm only making $20 an hour right now, you know, my first year, compare to where you would be if you were going to school. You wouldn't be making anything per hour, you'd be costing you per hour. So look at all the thing, look at it from a wide lens. None of this is an excuse to be a lazy,

you know, non-driven individual. I'm gonna give a fuck what you do. If you're lazy and you don't have any drive, you're probably not gonna be successful regardless of which direction you go. I think that's the common nominator, right? Yep. Anyway, speaking of drive, I think

mobility's on the horizon for me. Oh, yeah, I'm really starting to take it. Like kind of mobility, you're trying to be serious about it. Man, man, I'm trying to take it real serious. Going all-in, dude. Yeah, I'm really starting to take it kind of mobility or trying to be serious about it. No, man, I'm trying to take it real serious. Going all-in, dude. Yeah, I'm really starting to feel like it's something I want, not that I just have to do it, but something that I really, really want to do.

And I know this because I'm doing it every day now, versus like, you know, like, post all your own idea. Yeah, so I've done a couple things. You want one thing that I did that's kind of funny. What? So, and I thought, I wonder if this will help me. So Jessica has these tow spacers that, you know, that they put on that that women will wear.

For toenails when they painted those. Yeah, it's like to prevent, you know, to have their toenails dry or whatever. Selfie to prove it. Yeah, so I have this, I have this one that's made out of silicone. So what I'm doing is I'll wear it at night when I'm at home and then what it's doing is it's making me more aware

of my toe placement. So then when I take them off and while I'm wearing them, I'm actively activating my toes, trying to separate them, trying to strengthen it. It will help you spread them out a little bit more, just like having them like, yes, in a certain range. Sure, it makes total sense.

Just like a yoga block for like the 99 year whatever. It's helping me connect. And it's funny when I take them off, then I feel like my toes are more connected. Oh, I'm curious to see how that works. I don't just leave them on though. It's not like I just leave them on. I'm like a rebranded product waiting to happen.

You know how that works, right? Like every time you get something like from a beauty product or something something like, oh, weird. Yeah, that's cool. Until he's just, and then slap fitness on itself for like $50 more. Well, dude, if you look at my feet, my toes are all crunched together,

and my feet got real big, real young, that's probably because I was wearing tight shoes and shit, and it's like, they're not connected, man. So I'm like, I gotta start there, dude. I gotta start with my toes. Start connecting to those, and then they were too way up. Yeah, so yesterday I was doing, I did about 45 minutes of pure mobility.

I used the vibrating plate over at ClubSport. That's got some value, man, for mobility. It does. Well, it helps you get into that position for sure. Yeah, dude. I mean, the biggest thing for me was, I was so relentless about how much of it, in every day, right? Yeah, it's kind of cool to hear where you're at now because it took that thing for me was I was so relentless about how much of it. In every day, right?

Yeah, it's kind of cool to hear where you're at now, because it took that switch for me that I had to almost become competitive about it. Yeah. It couldn't just be like, oh, I need to do this for me. This is better for me. It's like, okay. This is as much impact. Yeah, I suck at mobility, my feet pronate.

I've got these issues going on. Let's see if I can really move this fucking needle and it took the priority over everything else that I was doing. There's no other way, dude. Right, it took that commitment. It took that commitment to move the needle as far as I move the needle in the time that I moved it. And it's really hard because I get people that DM me a lot and ask, like, oh, like, you know, how did you get there? And it's like there's not like this generic answer I can give you of like, oh, do this exercise and do this before you work out.

It's like, no, it's like, it was on my mind all the time. And anytime that I had downtime where I could be, I mean, even as stupid as things is like, I made it all sudden this hat like so my, my right foot was the one that was pronating really bad. And so we'll just like you're talking about connecting to your toes and wiggling your feet. I made sure that I'd every time I peed, I did that. So, when I go to the restroom and I'm standing there, like, yeah, I'm moving my feet and

I'm making sure that I'm rolling out on the outsides of my foot and not allowing them. So, it was just like, I just made this thing where I'm, oh, when I was teaching at Orange Theory back then, I would get down in this squad of position and I do kind of like the combat stretch and I would be doing these things all the time and just and I started to know and once I started it and noticed it moving the needle a little bit more motivated than I was motivated then I was like okay well I'm getting better actually like I and that once I kind of saw a little bit of progress that's what got me fired up about it and then I was all in and just committed to kept

getting back and I still am I mean I don't have the biggest thing right now for me is the thoracic mobility. That's the last piece of the puzzle I feel like. I think I crushed the ankle mobility. I've crushed the hip mobility. And what's cool is now that I put all that work in, now all I have to do is like get in that position every once in a while.

And I don't have to do. Just remind the body. Yeah, I don't have to do, I don't have to do all the work that I was doing before. I don't do nowhere near as much mobility work as what I was doing just a year ago. All I do now is do, I do exercises that promote that mobility.

Yeah, it's less of scheduled mobility workouts and more of every day, several times a day. Yeah. Do you do five to 10 minutes, just every all day long while you're thinking about it. Because the big things that I'm focusing on now are my foot, ankle, foot and ankle are the big ones. Hips, I'm always, you know, kind of aware of.

And my neck, I have terrible rotation in my neck. It's a from Jiu-Jitsu, a lot of neck cranking and crazy shit. And Jessica, the other day, she was helping me with it. Because she, remember she mentored under Dr. Brick for a little while? Yeah. And so she learned a few things. And she goes, well, let me take you through a couple tests.

And this was eye opening for me. I'm doing my neck rotation, and she's testing my range of motion. And she goes, she's laughs. And I'm like, and I'm like, wait, laughing. And she goes, come on, stop playing around. And she was serious. And I'm like, what do you mean? You're playing around.

She goes, wait, is that for real? Is that as far as you can rotate your neck? I'm like, yeah. And she's like, honey, we need to fix this because it's gonna be terrible in like 10 years. I'm like, fuck. All right. She was totally serious.

She thought I was fucking with her. Like, no, that's literally how bad my neck. I had an athletic trainer when I was playing football and like was trying to stretch my hamstring and started like laughing for everybody. Cause like he'd push and like nothing happened. Yeah. This is why I got so defensive about that post

the other day that we just recently talked about from that coach about the not squatting. And I just feel so passionately about that because that type of message is what would have validated me not working towards me. I can just, I'll just lunge now. And I'll just leg press now. And I can still build a static good body.

And what I know is that all the work that I put into getting to the place where I could squat, ask to grasp, like that is what's kept me super valuable. Oh, unbelievably. I just, I have no idea where I could squat, ask to grasp. Like that is what's kept me super valuable. Oh, unbelievably. I have no idea where I would be today and where I would be 10 years from now had I not done that and now it's become so important to me. And you're not gonna live there forever.

And I think that's where the definitive line is drawn for me. It's like, it is so valuable, but also you build on that. So you go through that process to get to a place where you're functioning optimally again. And so now your exercises feel even better. Everything gets enhanced. Yeah. I just don't want to be as stiff as my dad.

My dad is just, I mean, he's always been naturally strong, but because of the type of labor he's done since he was a kid and how much he's beat himself up, you know, he's got some issues with the spine and all that stuff, but he also does nothing to improve his mobility or stretching, regardless of how much I badger him. And he's just fucking tight, dude. He is just tight rotation and hamstring and everything. And I'm like, oh yeah, no, I don't want to move Like that when I'm 60 years old. I need to be able to move better. Yeah, because I can I see how much problems He bought himself one of those massage chairs like the real expensive ones that that you know Yeah, like needs you and your back. Yeah, dude, and this is so hard for me to do with my parents so difficult

It's so hard for me to like not to remain neutral and not be an asshole So he's like you tell we go over there for me to do with my parents, so difficult, so hard for me to like not to remain neutral and not be an asshole. So he's like, he tell, we go over there, you know, I go over there to hang out with them and he's like, oh, we go, so let's not, let me show you something. And I got, and he shows me this chair, and I sit in it, it's expensive, it costs them

on how many thousand, a couple thousand dollars or whatever. And he's like, oh, he goes, Sal, he goes, I sit on the chair, it fix everything. I have no pain. I sit, I sit, so you only have to use it one time and you never have to use it again? He's like, it looks at me, he goes, no, I use every night.

I said, so that means it's not fixing anything. It's kind of solving, you know, and of course I'm being an asshole about it. And I'm like, listen, this is what happens to your body here. You need to correct the problem, the root issue or whatever. And I could tell my dad's just like, I shouldn't have told this kid. Yeah, like, fucking, I'm not gonna share anything

with you anymore. You know, it's like when my mom's like, hey, I bought the healthy yogurt for the kids and I look at him like, actually mom, this is bad. Don't give this to the kids anymore and she's like, she wants to throw it at me. Yeah. Oh, it's so great though.

Like I'm at the point now in my dad where I'll just shame him. You know, like, you have been doing your 90-90 like look at this fat gut you got. No, you don't. Yeah, yeah, but he, you know, he can handle it now. Like we're on that level. I don't even fuck with a mitat. I just, I, we've just like the infirm,

or the advice that we give on the show all the time and we do these live. So you do it? Yeah, it's like I, I've learned now that. Show me the way, man. Yeah, and honestly, and that's like when I, the posting, all the stuff that I'm doing now, like we're now getting the point where we're approaching 40

and so it is a little inspiring for them to see like, oh shit, you know, he's not a 22 year old kid anymore who's doing all this stuff. It's like, he's almost 40 years old and he's got mobility like that. So now to me, like I'm getting questions from like my dad and his wife like, because they'll be at my house and I do this now, all the time, where they're in the living room,

they're sitting on the couch. And I see you do it. I get down and I just, and I'm sitting there talking to them in a squad position and they'll be like, is that comfortable for you to be like, yeah. Well, that's what it took, yeah. And then once you get curious, yeah, you just like keep planting those seeds and watering.

Well, the other part, the other thing I've done too to augment the mobility is I'm really sticking close to the 422 tempo with weights. So I'm going way lighter than I normally do and focusing on the 4 second, you know, negative, pause, come up, control, squeeze, feel the muscle connect because I know when I go heavy, which I can do, I'm very good at going heavy, that it just makes it harder. It's a compensation. Yeah, it makes it much harder.

So like today, I'm not going heavier than 315 for deadlifts. For me, I could blow out 20 reps with 315 if I wanted to. If I went nuts, but I'm doing five reps and I'm four second down, I'm coming up and I'm squeezing and I'm focusing on activating my feet and my hips and all that shit. And I'm actually enjoying it.

That's why I know, that's why I think that this time I'm actually gonna focus on it because it's not like, oh this sucks, I can't wait til I can, I'm like this is cool, it feels good. So I'm working out with intent completely, we'll see what happens. Shhh. Shhh.

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With a full 30-day money back guarantee, there is absolutely zero risk. So what is your waiting for? Go to mindpromidia.com and get started today! It's the motherfucking world. An English landed. Queu-qua. First question is from Easy Richardson. Did any of you have a desire to specialize

in a certain type of training? And if so, how did your careers change when most people seem to just want to lose weight and gain muscle? Oh, man, I think I fell in the category and I know for sure, Justin's going to agree, maybe Sal, too, even. You know, when you, when you first start getting into personal training, I think almost, maybe not everybody, but almost every trainer wants to be like a trainer for a professional sports team. I guess if you were in the sports for sure, it

has to be. Yeah. Like I wanted to train athletes so bad when I first got into it. And you just, you quickly realized that that's such a very, that's a small portion of the population. And so if you're going to build your business around that, really, really tough to do. And most of the guys that are connected

or girls that are connected to professional teams, it's, and not to knock them, but it's rarely ever about how great of a trainer they were and it's more there. Who you know. Yeah, they're connected to the uncle is the sports guy who hired them. And so it's really tough to get into that, to get into it.

It's a terrible business model. It is. It's a bad idea and it was an idea that I thought I was going to do for real. No, I completely agree. Like I came in with that as would be like the ultimate dream, right? Is to be able to train like my, my idols, my, you know, the athletes that I looked up to and be able to improve them and, and have, make a name for myself in terms of, you know, working with professional athletes. And you start to do that and like, I was working my way towards that direction

and you just start to figure out like, well, like their schedules and, you know, the way that, you know, the small period of time you actually have with them. And the amount of improvement that you can actually make is really much more based off of like, how you can preserve their career. It's not about like, they're already awesome.

Yeah. And so they're easy as hell to train. I mean, it's just like, they'll do anything you ask them to do. But really, that that's the game is to be able to keep them healthy and elongate their career. Yeah, there's not a lot of money in that. Even if you do a good job. No, you're right, because it's such a sought after job.

It's like, people will do it for free. Yeah. Think about this. If you're a professional athlete, you could pretty much have any, almost any trainer train you for free. Because for that trainer, it's like, it looks great on your resume. They don't want to pay.

Right. And that's on saying, like, there's no money in it at all. Now, here's just a couple of things you want to consider when you're trying to think of specializing in fitness. One is, what does the market demand look like? Is there a big market demand for training people to help them become better cyclists? Is there a big market demand for training children who are in sports? Whatever.

Look at the market demand. That's number one. The second thing, and this is another one, that's important is, consider the following. You will probably be your best when you're doing something you enjoy the most. Okay, so, if you fucking just absolutely love, love, love, athletic training, and that is your deep, deep, deep passion,

you're probably gonna be best at it, because you love it. You're gonna be learning it no matter what. In which case I say, look at the market and look a little broader and say, okay, within the market of athletics training, what's the largest market within that? Student athletes.

Student athletes and kids would be my... That would be the direction. That's what I would say, right, for that specific one. Now, for me, I went into it and I didn't really have a specific market. I just wanted to help people get more fit and get better shape. Now, eventually, I started to specialize in training people through injury and through, and people who are in advanced age. Now, it just, so it just kind of worked out that way.

Personally, I enjoyed training people who were older because I love the stories that they would tell me. That's just that's being selfish. It's 100% like if I sat down, if I'm training, you know, 75 year old Mrs. Johnson. That's 75 years of wisdom, bro. Getting dropped on you for free. Dude, great stories. I could ask them advice. It was just great. It was great conversation. I'd learn a lot. I remember I trained one lady. She was 80, three years old.

And she used to be a real estate agent for the Bay Area, for San Jose and Los Angeles. I'm excuse me, and Los Gatos. And so she would tell me, would it was like back then, which was fascinating to me. I'm like, oh, I didn't know this. Los Gatos, which is a very, very expensive part of Silicon Valley. Back when she was doing real estate, it was like, that was I didn't know this, Los Gados, which is a very, very expensive part of Silicon Valley.

Back when she was doing real estate, it was like, that was the sticks, man. It was like, people who couldn't afford to live in San Jose would go up living the hills of Los Gados. I thought that was fascinating. So she would tell me all this cool stuff and I had learned from them. And the other reason I found a lot of value in it

is that they were consistent as fuck. The most consistent people ever trained in my entire life were people in advanced stage. You schedule Tuesday and Thursday at 2 p.m., they're fucking there. The whole day's like revolves around it. That's it, Tuesday, Thursday, 3 p.m., they're there, like, or whatever.

They're not going anywhere, and if you show them value, they will pay you and forever until they can't train with you anymore. So it was like super consistent. And then in terms of referrals, holy cow, the referrals I got for my advanced age clients were it was silly. Like if I trained a lady or a guy and I did a really good job,

next to you know, I was training her friends, who were in the same age group, they're seeing her move better. Now all that being said, I think that if I'm advising a trainer, like I would advise them the same way that I would advise a fighter going into MMA. And that's like, I don't think it's

in your best interest to specialize in one niche group and just be a bad asset boxing or be a bad asset to jiu-jitsu. I think you are far better off becoming well-rounded at all modalities because in reality, when you're, it's already hard to build a business as a personal trend. It's not an easy career. There's not a lot of money being thrown around and made in this industry. So to niche yourself down to just one category of people, may allow you to separate yourself in a local gym and be like, oh, he's the guy. If you're, if all the people that come in

that are sports people come in, you're like, you're gonna get all those clients. But then you might miss out on a lot of other clients because those other clients don't have that specific goal. And if you're pretty good at all of it, you're gonna be able to help like 80 to 90% of the population because I've trained a lot of athletes, even though I wouldn't think that that's my specialty

because I eventually went all over the place. But I know I have enough knowledge in sports performance and I have certifications in that arena that I can take for sure somebody all the way up to the collegiate level and greatly, and probably even the professional level help them more than what they're doing right now. I'll tell you the most valuable thing

in my opinion in personal training. The most value you wanna specialize? Specializing correctional exercise. Yeah, 100%. And in helping people rehab injuries in alleviate pain, because that covers everybody. It covers every market. Yeah, anything, even kids now.

Athletes, it covers old people, it covers average everyday people, it covers people want to build muscle, burn body fat, body builds, athletics, it covers everything, correctional exercise, and how to get people to feel better in terms of pain. Boy, that right there, I can't think of a better, I can't think of a single category that would be, well, you get better return on. I think to, I can't think of a better, I can't think of a single category that would be, you get better return on. I think to, I mean, it's a good strategy

to definitely be more, take on as many different types of clients as possible, as much volume. Like you said, it's a tough market to penetrate and to really thrive in and to build experience and find out, which what becomes sort of, what you're putting out there a lot of times you're gonna attract.

And so you're gonna end up getting a specific type of a client that's gonna sort of reveal itself to you. And that's kind of what happened with me, where I kept plugging away, plugging away, and I would just keep taking on new types of clients, and it was great, because it's like a problem solving. It's like it's a new person that has all these new variables. I have to figure this out.

And I tended to attract a little bit more of like your busy person that is really like type A and like wants to, you know, to get everything done and have all the answers like right then and there and this. And so I would have to calm them down and like, you know, really spell it out and draw this, this plan for them that made sense that, that, you know, they could agree upon. And that became like, okay, I'm understanding this type of a person that like, like makes excuses and has no time.

And like, I have to like literally like put myself in a position where I'm going to cross, you know, their regular path consistently, and I have to get that consistency from them. And so I figured out how to do that and drew a business model out of that. Yeah, no, the first point you made was really, really good. I wanna re-emphasize that, which is for the first, and I'll be more specific,

for the first couple of years of personal training, don't be picky, you can't be picky with the clients take them all take all the client I used to hate this I'd get a trainer. Yeah, I take brand new, you know brand new. Oh, here's the kind of clients I want really you have none right now Yeah, you're trying to build a business you're gonna take them all and you're gonna learn through training a lot of different people And then as you get better you can be a little bit more picky, but if you're new Like fucking train everybody learn from everybody build your business that way, and then little by little, I think it'll start to reveal itself in the sense of where you want to specialize

yourself out to. Next question is from VMA, Mr. Black. What are the benefits or detriments of dropping weight each set, adding weight each set, or using the same weight for all sets. Mm. Okay. Well, there's no real detriment. No, the detriment would be doing the same method. There you go. There you go. Yeah, so if you did whichever method you chose,

so to explain to the listeners, so they kinda know what they're talking about, let's, what the question's saying. Let's say I'm doing five sets of bench press. One way to do it would be to start with a weight, let's say 200 pounds. And then as I fatigue because of the next set, I'm gonna be a little bit...

Fatigue, shave off five, 10 pounds. I go down and I go lighter with each set. So I start with 200 second set as 180, third set as 160 and so on. The other option would be to add weight, which would be, I start with the weight and then each set, I go lower in reps and higher in weight. The other option that he talked about would be sticking to the same weight throughout every single set.

And then there's a fourth option that you can talk about called pyramiding where I go up and weight and then halfway through, I go back down. Aside from the novel stimulus that it provides on the body, that's the benefit. That's where the benefit comes from. If all things are equal as far as volume's concerned. Yeah, I like it. Right. Because I think that it comes down to that if you were to still take, plug in the formula of set reps and weight of those five sets, right? So if you would equate out what it is. And if all things are equal,

that you're producing the same amount of volume as in all those four different ways, then really the only real benefit is to vary it and change it up every once in a while. If one of them is now producing more volume, you're gonna get more out of that. Like if you find that when you pair them it up and everything else is all five sets,

we agree that's all you're about to do. And one way you're squeezing out an extra 300 pounds of volume, well that's currently gonna benefit you until the body gets pretty efficient and adapted to that and then you would want to move out of that. Yeah, yeah. Now I'll say that I tend to, I mess with all of them, but I do tend to move up and wait with each set just because the sets serve as a warm up each time. And that's necessarily a warm up, but more like, if I'm going to work myself up to a 500 pound or 400 pound deadlift, I will typically do at least a few sets leading up to that.

So one set will be 135, 225, 315, 375. Now I'm at 405, you know, maybe 455, then 500. So I kind of use it in that type of a way. So I train that way when doing single doubles, triples, and sometimes training in like a blocks of five, right, where we're doing five reps. Heavyweight. Yeah, heavyweight, I like that.

But if I'm doing, if I know I'm doing a workout, that's all like 10, 15 rep range, I'm pretty comfortable that I know what, like what that weight looks like on the bench for me. It's like that's 185, pretty much for me. And so I'll put 185 on right after that. I won't do a warm-up set or a prime. Go right into your weight.

We'll go right into the weight and keep it the whole time. And keep it the whole time, right? That's two, two things. So it just, it depends on how, and of course I'll flip all of it on a set and do the opposite of what I'm saying right now, every once in a while just to make sure that my body isn't completely adapted

to it and throw a new stimulus out. Yeah, especially like that. You mentioned pyramid, I'll do that every now and then to really just as an interruptor. That's something that I'm like, oh yeah, it's a novel stimulus. So maybe I'll respond a little differently going back into adding, and I'll typically, again,

like pretty similar to where you're talking about, like, doing singles, doubles, triples, like, working my way up, that, like, to me, that just feels more natural to, to kind of scale my way up that direction. This is another, you know, another tool that I love to, to use, to manipulate, to really just shock the body where, you know, imagine you decide you're going to work out and you're like, you know what, I really want to, I feel like I've been stuck in this rut of doing kind of all this and more stuff. So, you know what I'm gonna do?

I'm gonna change my tempo, I'm gonna change my rest period, and I'm gonna change the way I drop, set, or pyramid, set, and man, you wanna really shock the body on a workout? You could be doing the exact same exercise even, and just manipulate all those things in a workout and see how different your body feels from that. Oh, totally. I mean, how about this?

How about you keep the weight the same but you make it feel harder by changing the focus of the exercise? Like I could take a bench press. I'm creating more tension. There's two different ways I could bench press, for example. I could bench press in a way that maximizes my leverage and skill to lift the most weight possible.

That's a very specific technique. It looks more like a power lifter's lift. I don't give a shit, which muscles I feel it in. I'm staying tight and I'm pressing the weight. The other way to do it is to feel whatever target muscle I want to feel. In this case, it's probably going to be the chest. And so what I'm doing is I'm driving my hands together and focusing on my elbows coming out, stretching the chest,

squeezing everything together. And I'm using the same weight either way, one makes it feel lighter, one makes it feel a lot heavier and more targeted on the pecs, both have their value. So you can also, that's another way to mess with something. As you could do a set, just to be able to do more reps or you could do a set to do less reps, but feel it more.

Both of them have their value. One isn't necessarily better than the other. A lot of it depends on your goals. And of course, which one is more different for your body than what you're used to? That's typically the one that's gonna give you a better response. Next question is from Halle Cashman.

How do you guys approach treating your kids with food? Or do you do it at all? For example, going out for ice cream after a game or on a trip, how do you still communicate good food relationships and not risk developing poor habits? Yeah, that's a tough one. This one's real difficult. I wanna say real quick, we're not experts in raising kids. So this is just our own

personal No, it's important. You say that right? We're all this is just from our own personal experience We have opinions, but yeah, and I used to be really bad with this You know the way I was raised in my culture. We have some pretty bad Relationships with food. I was I don't know if I was telling you guys the other day, but like when I was a kid and I dinner at my grandma's house

with all my cousins, I've gotta finish it. Yeah, well, my grandma would come out and with a $5 bill. Whoever finished his first gets $5 to encourage us to eat faster and eat more. Like that is just fucking terrible if you think about it. But that's what it was.

And we would school. Oh, it's crazy. So this was something I had to kind of work on with myself, with my kids. But now, really, you know, I food, there are foods that are a treat. And what I mean by that is they are reserved and saved for special occasions, celebrations,

and they're a part of the whole thing. So it's like, you know, hey kids, we're going to Disneyland. So now that we're in Disneyland, we're gonna enjoy some foods that we don't normally have access to or have, because this is all part of the experience. I think that that encourages the understanding that these are occasional foods,

that they're foods for certain times or whatever. Right, I feel like this example I gave, you know, and I don't have kids, so I don't know exactly what this is gonna look like for me. I haven't had my son's not eating ice cream yet, right, so I don't have to worry about it. Right now he's 100% on breast milk, and it's really easy to convince him to do that.

So, my advice isn't great here, but I'm curious to you, I feel like, you know, after a baseball game, let's say he plays baseball like Justin's kids and he ends up wanting to have an ice cream after the game. Like what do you have? Like 12 games in the season, you know? So at most, the kids are gonna have 12 ice creams over the course of three months.

Yeah, so for me, that's, you know, I definitely draw definitive lines with that because it really depends on, you don't want to associate every game with getting a treat. Right. Or every practice they'll do it. Yeah, so it has to be like an infrequent thing, but maybe you had the game of his life, right?

Yeah, it's like I like the best. It makes it more special, more impactful. I'm all for it, if it's celebratory for a specific reason, it's not like because I ate all my food, I get dessert. You know, I'm trying to break that chain in my family, because I know for me, I grew up like that, I grew up like that, I got ice cream if I ate everything. Yeah, that was it, that's like all I had to cream if I ate everything. You know, like, and that was it.

That's like all I had to make sure I ate everything. Then I get the ice cream. Isn't that funny though? It's hard to disassociate myself with like wanting, because now I'm an adult, you know, that took me a long time to work through. Like I don't have to eat vegetables. I eat more, mom.

Look at me now, you know. I mean ice cream, I get to the fun part. Yeah. And it's funny about that too, if you really think about it, it's like, hey, if you eat more calories, I'll give you more. You know what I mean, ice cream. I get it in the fun part. And it's funny about that too, if you really think about it, it's like, hey, if you eat more calories, I'll give you more. You know what I mean?

If you eat more food, we'll give you more. No, the way I'll do it now with dessert is if I do buy a dessert for dinner, which I'll do occasionally, not frequently. But let's say I do, this is what I'll tell the kids. Hey guys, we have, I bought some whatever, pie or whatever. Now this is for after dinner,

but remember you have to eat all the healthy stuff first before you eat the treat or whatever. And that's all I say. And it's just, no, oh, I don't want to eat my vegetables. We'll look on it. If you feel like you have room for dessert, you should probably eat the more important food, which is the vegetable.

But here's the real truth about all this. People are so worried about what they say to their kids to make them, you know, I don't wanna fuck them up with food and this and that. Meanwhile, their behaviors are all fucked up. That's what they pay attention to. Kids, let's say you're like super perfect with your kids and how you talk about food.

But then they hear you look in the mirror and say, God, man, I'm fat. I need to like, or you tell your wife, or your wife tells a husband, listen, honey, I'm gonna skip dinner because I'm getting a little fat, or I'm feeling out of shape, or, oh, I don't wanna put a bikini on. I don't look good.

Look at the cellulite. That's the shit that they hear, and that's what they internalize. It internalize that more than the stuff that you may necessarily say to them. That's where the damage is done. And so, here's the problem, or here's the difficult part. If you want your kids to have a good relationship to them, that's where the damage is done. And so here's the problem, or here's the difficult part. If you want your kids to have a good relationship to food,

you need to work on your relationship with food. That's where the answer is, 100%. Oh, absolutely. And I think I'm a little more calculated, even when we're going to get a treat or going to get ice cream, there's times where I won't partake, but I'm not saying that or trying to be judgmental

as I'm there. I'm letting them enjoy it and I'm encouraging, yeah, that flavor sounds great and all that, but I'm not partaking with them. And then they're like, well, why aren't you getting one, dad? It's like, well, it's not something I want right now. It's not something that's gonna benefit you know, benefit me right now. Like, I don't, I don't, I'm celebrating with you,

but it's not something I always want. Like, I like to celebrate and have treats every now and then, but not all the time. Yeah, and it's also like, don't make a big deal about it. Yeah, you still make a big deal. Yeah, like, my kids would be like, why aren't you having an ice cream? Oh, it hurts my stomach when I, no big deal.

Like, I'm not making this big hoopla about it or whatever. Yeah. But a lot of it is what you say about yourself, man. That's No big deal. Like I'm not making this big hoopla about it or whatever. But a lot of it is what you say about yourself, man. That's a big one. And a lot of people do this and you don't realize it. You look at yourself in the mirror, you say something negative about yourself, you don't want to go somewhere

because you don't look a particular way and you vocalize it, you say it or whatever. That's what the kids, that's, if you ever talk to anybody who's got issues with food, a lot of it comes from there. I remember I had one client, this young lady who had a lot of issues with food, and we'd have conversations like this and they'd be like, you know, she told me, you know, my mom was really good with how we ate and stuff like that. And she said, but man, she would talk about herself all the time, how fat she felt and the snitch is like, and I realized, it's been a long time to realize that

that's why I have issues with food is what she was saying and the snitch is like, and I realized, it's been a long time to realize that that's why I have the issues with food is what she was saying about herself. That's like, man, that's what kids here. It's like, it's like the dad who smokes cigarettes and then tells the kids not to smoke cigarettes. That's a mixed message at the very least. Yeah. Next question is from M. Royals.

What are each of your steps for recovery after going too hard in a workout? Yeah. How do you guys know, do you guys have signs that you know you want too hard? Yeah, I mean, the, the, these are in the workout. The, uh-oh. The onset of soreness early is always a quick indicator that I over, over reach for sure. Because like if, if I did it just right, the next day, I won't feel sore at all and I'll feel it a little bit on day two. Like that's, to me, I'm like, I'm kind of like hitting the mark just right for myself. Like, ooh, yeah, I like right now I can feel

my back from two days ago. And I, but I, it doesn't feel like, right, it's just subtle. I could go train my back still today. It's not like stiff and hurts or soared to the touch. Like when it gets that sore, then I know I overreached. And so, and when I do that, the things that I like to do, if I can get myself into like an ice bath or something like that, I love to do that or cryo. That would be a great thing that doesn't happen all the time. At bare minimum, because we have one in studio, infrared sauna, like always makes me feel better. Get a nice, good, warm sweat inside the infrared sauna for about 20 minutes. That helps me.

And then I try and boost calorie intake too. So that's a good time. Like if you're gonna bump calories since I'm always manipulating them up and down. Because I know I overeat, I know my body's trying to recover and probably working a little extra hard to recover so I could probably use the additional calories.

So I'll kind of take advantage of that too. That's when I'll actually increase calories. Just like if I don't feel like I had a very good workout and it was kind of a half ass workout, I also take advantage of those times is, oh, here's a time where my body's probably not needing a ton of extra nutrients. I'm probably gonna dip on my calories in those days.

So I'm with you on the soreness. That's an easy one for me, but I also, kind, I also know right after the workout, because the thing about soreness is you have to wait a couple days or the day after to kind of be like, oh shit, I went too hard. One thing that I noticed for myself, and this is what I see communicate to clients

all the time was, if I, after my workout, if I feel like I have low energy, and if I feel drained, even if I'm wired and drained, I know I went too hard. The way I need to feel post workout is calm and energized, so I have a calm energy. It's like I leave and I feel the word I like to use is Zen. I feel very Zen after a good, appropriate, effective workout. Like it was hard, but it was appropriately hard. I leave. I'm very Zen after a good, appropriate, effective workout. Like it was hard, but it was appropriately hard. I leave. I'm in a good mood. I feel Zen. I could come do a good

podcast. I could go to work. I could meet with some friends. If I left the workout and I'm like, I need to fucking lay down. Like I need to go like, yeah, I have that view in too far. That weird buzz feeling, you know, that's like, oh shit, I went to, that's when I know I went a little, and I've had, I've had, you know, I've definitely had workouts. So I still clients like that. At the end of your workout, you should feel energized. If you feel like at the end of your workout,

your beat up, you probably went to. Oh, there's a perfect dose. I look at it as like, you get that stir crazy energy, you know, like if I feel like I've expended, you know, all that excess energy, like it's such a sweet spot. Like, and you feel like that calmness, like you've accomplished something the rest of your day

is pretty chill, your mind isn't racing quite as much. There's so many benefits to that. And then you pass that threshold, and you're just, oh, and then I just wanna go to sleep half the time when I go over, when I overreach, my body just like, starts to kind of shut down. So I lose hearing in one of my ears. Oh, you push too hard.

Yeah, wow. So you talk about, like I typically, the indicator, like I said, I wait, it's post to work, the next day I can kind of really tell, but if there's something that tells me when I'm working out, it's the loss of hearing in one ear. Oh, you know what that work, it's all like, it's plugged up and you're like,

oh, fuck. I don't know about you guys, I don't know about you guys, but do you guys ever, do you guys get like, kind of like in the mood post workout? Like if you're with your girl, you're like, it's a time to have sex. Absolutely. It's the best, right?

If I don't feel like having sex post workout, if I don't feel like having sex post workout, I went too hard typically. If I got, if I still want to, you know, I got the energy to go for it. And no, I probably trained. Just right. Yeah, I trained about just right.

But this is a big one. This is a big one for people because it's hard for them to gauge, especially new beginners. Look, if you- It's not just hard for beginners. This is something that if I were to call out ourselves or call out trainers and just like,

I think if you're a professional in the field, you're just as guilty of still overreaching. It's because we all fall in that we'd rather overreach a little bit than to have a workout where I felt like was will waste of my time or you can carry away with the momentum. Like for me, just like the right like music playlist will get my mind just going in. Man, that's honestly that's when I tend to overreach the most is when I have like certain music playing and I'm just going for such a good point. Be aware of the music and how it affects that's why I change it as I know I always tell you guys

I gotta calm down that like if I'm listening to hip hop you kind of know where I'm at in my training you know I'm saying I'm not all the way there Yeah, once I start pulling out like rage and shit like that, like I've built up to that, I've scaled up to that volume to be able to handle that. Otherwise, I throw that shit on early on. I'm for sure overdoing it for sure. Angry metal is like, I cannot do a four second negative squeeze. It doesn't work with that. I have to fucking go crazy.

It's like nitrous for me. Yeah, so I do the same thing hip hop. Now, that being said, I also, I love referring back to the conversation that we had with Dr. Andy Galp and too, though, that I do think there's a case for the occasional overreaching like that, like pushing the body to,

there was a kind of, it's like what... The stretch in your capacity a little bit. Right, but unfortunately, so it's all who I'm talking to, right? If I'm talking to another professional in the field, a personal trainer, somebody who loves to work out, I already know the conversation. Like the conversation I'm having to another professional in the field, a personal trainer, somebody who loves to work out, I already know the conversation. Like the conversation I'm having to tell those people all the time is learning to listen to the body back off, scale out every once in a while.

If I'm having a conversation with a person who hated working out, this is new to them, they don't really want to, those are the people that I'm trying to motivate to push to stretch themselves out right now and then is like, hey, it's okay for you to, it'd be really hard every now and then for to struggle a little bit. So it all depends on who you're talking to because there is some value to the occasional overreach to Justin's point of. But do you guys have any workouts and memory that you can remember that we're like? Oh, yeah, clearly, you just over did it. I mean, when I used to train with my buddies, that's another reason why I'm so anti-workout partner. Yeah, I work out part of the world.

Oh, especially when it's your buddies, you had it with them. I'm almost all of those were. When I look back, when I look back to those days, I think like, man, I probably would have progressed so much faster, trained by myself, than with all these knuckleheads, because every workout was competitive.

Every workout was to failure and yeah, adding way. And, you know, if you didn't fall off the curb walking out from a leg day, like you just didn't do it, you know what I'm saying? Or didn't throw up. Like, it's like that way of training, I think, really, I mean, sure, I've progressed and I did build muscle, but I think- Unaccident.

Yeah, as a default. Yeah, I used to work out with a buddy of mine. We were both trainers or whatever, and it was all that. We were 19 years old, and we would lift so fucking intensely hard, so you would break first, then we go across the street to hometown buffet.

And then it was another- And then it was in another- And, and it was another competition. Yep. Who could eat more food? It was the same thing. I remember so I remember a couple workouts where so one one of the first workouts I did where I went way the fuck overboard I took a barbell and and this is because I read a story from Arnold I think I shared this a long time ago with you guys. Arnold wrote this story a long time, or told the story of how when he was a kid, him and his buddies would take a barbell, go out into the woods, and they would do squats and drink milk in the woods.

And they would do it for, they would do it all day. And he's like, oh, those workouts added, inches to my thighs. And I'm like, this is, I think I was probably 15, 16, and I'm like, this is brilliant. So I took a, my cousin and I took a barbell and a 25 and two 25 pound plates. And we went maybe 25, maybe even 10 pound plates.

There were small plates. And we walked all the way to the school, which was, ah, it's probably about a, maybe a mile, it's not that far, right? So we walked all over the, holding the weights and we took a couple of jugs of whole milk, because this is what Arnold did. And we did squats and the idea was like,

we're gonna squat all day. Like we're gonna be here all day. And so we rested as long as we needed to because it got to the point after about two hours of squatting, it got to the point where we were resting 15 minutes in between sets and then we would just squat with the bar, and then it was just body weight squats, and we would just, because we were both there,

nobody was like being smart about it. Like I was by myself, I would have been, after 45 minutes, I'm like this fuck, but because it's me and him, so we were out there for hours, and we got scared because we couldn't walk home. Yeah, I'm like, how are you then? Yeah, it's before cell phones, I'm like, how are they gonna find us?

What are we gonna do? We couldn't make it home. And I had to take three days off of school. And I'm pretty sure I had rabdo on that one. Then fast forward, this is when I should know better. I was probably 34 and I'm like, just deep into like my, I'm like PRing everything. It's like when I peak of my strength or whatever.

And I don't know what it was. And you ever do this, you go into a workout, you make up your mind beforehand, you're like, this is what I'm gonna do. So then you have to fucking do it. That's what I did. So I went in it and I said, you know what would be fucking crazy?

If I did 10 reps with 315 on the deadlift and I did 10 sets of that with 30 second rest in between sets, that would be fucking awesome. So 10 reps, 3, 15, 30 seconds timed, 10 reps, 3, 15. And at this time, I'm pulling in the high fives, right? So 3, 15, the first couple sets was like, oh, I'm gonna fucking bouncing it off the floor. King, kink, kink.

Bro, you get to set four, five, six. And I remember set seven, I'm like, this is like my hands are about to break, I'm starting to bleed because I'm getting, you know, what's what calluses are getting ripped off? No, I gotta fucking do 10 sets. Dude, I fucking fuck myself up with that shit. I did that whole workout and then I was ruined for like,

at least two weeks, I remember thinking like, what did I, you know, what the fuck is wrong with me? Oh yeah, we were PRing before it was called PRing, right? And we were like challenging each other on every single left one morning as As basically like a team and just to see how much weight like you know each person could could really like handle and so we're doing squats We're doing power cleans. We're doing You know bench press and overhead press and like everything we could think of and then after that We still have to practice you, at the end of the day.

And I was fucking trashed. Like I couldn't even like barely walk the class, the whole class. I'm just like, oh, and then, you know, the head coach didn't know that we did that in the weight room. And so it was just like, at that point, everybody's just like groaning, you know, just going through the warm up. That was the worst practice. And he got pissed because it's like,

you thought that we were just like being lazy or like complaining. And we're like, no, we destroyed ourselves. So we had to end up doing like 10 extra hundred-yard sprints. You know, you can have the end of practice worst day of my life. Dude. Oh, and another time, again, with my cousin,

someone my epic, horrible workouts with him, we were reading Flex Magazine, you know, and it's talking about how you need to fuck and push the body, it doesn't want to build muscle, you have to give it a reason, whatever. And him and I were like, we're gonna add an inch to our arms, that's what we're gonna do right now. We went, my dad dropped us off at the 24th of it,

and this is when I first started working out there, and I told him come back in two hours, and all we did was arms for two hours. And bro, the next day, couldn't brush our teeth, couldn't eat dinner, my mom sat, but my mom just flopping it up on the table. Our mom sat us down, I remember this, our mom sat us down and had a conversation with us like,

look, we're not gonna let you guys go to the gym anymore. If you keep doing this to yourself, this is dangerous. So whatever. Meanwhile, in our heads, we're like, you don't even know. We're building muscle right now as you're talking to us. Totally worth it. Missing at it, after.

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