Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1091: Pros & Cons of Training Like a Powerlifter vs Bodybuilder, How & When to Deload, the Pros & Cons of Ab Machines & MORE

Episode Date: August 7, 2019

In this episode of Quah, sponsored by Organifi (organifi.com/mindpump, code "mindpump" for 20% off), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about the pros and cons of a powerlifting type approach to training vs a bodybuilder type approach to training,  the pros and cons of ab machines, when and how often you should do a deload week, and whether sore or painful hip flexors are a sign of a mobility lapse or of overuse. How Sal used the full-spectrum hemp oil from NED to relax his body and mind after long days with the family at Disneyland/Universal Studios. (5:30) Updates on ‘Dad’ life with Adam. (18:40) California limits full-contact practices for youth football. How sports are physical and we cannot make everything safe. (26:21) Video games and activity with our youth: Connecting the dots for themselves when it comes to screen usage, eye strain, and sleep. (32:06) Tool is NOW on Spotify and Justin/Adam are excited about it! (38:07) Can our grandparent's past trauma be passed on to their children and grandchildren?? (42:56) #Quah questions #1 – What are the pros and cons to a powerlifting type approach to training to a bodybuilder type approach to training? (46:46) #Quah question #2 – What are the pros and cons of ab machines? Would they have any benefit due to the resistance you can add or no real benefit because they’re a machine that cannot fit everyone's body? (1:00:07) #Quah question #3 – What do you recommend for a deload week and how often should you do one? (1:04:53) #Quah question #4 – Are sore or painful hip flexors a sign of a mobility lapse or of overuse? What exercises would you recommend to ameliorate? (1:11:19) People Mentioned Dexter "The Blade" Jackson (@mrolympia08)  Instagram   Related Links/Products Mentioned August Promotion: MAPS Prime/Prime Pro ½ off!! **Code “PRIME50” at checkout** The Secrets Behind Disney's $2.2 Billion Theme Park Profits - Forbes Visit NED for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Aquarium of the Bay | Explore, Engage, Experience | San Francisco California limits full-contact practices for youth football Visit Felix Gray for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! TOOL on Spotify How grandparents' experiences can affect our genes 3 Best Secrets - How To Make Your Butt Grow (AVOID MISTAKES!) | MIND PUMP How to Fix Anterior Pelvic Tilt (BECAUSE SIT HAPPENS!) | MIND PUMP Hip Flexor Deactivators- Do these first to maximize your Ab development Mind Pump TV - YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources

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Powered it out, huh? Yeah, my hips got a little sore and it was tough to sleep. Thankfully, I had full spectrum hemp oil extract. From Ned, it's the best in the market. It also has CBD in it, took that before bed, settled me down, helped me sleep, and I felt less inflamed. Now, we are sponsored by Ned. If you go to helloned.com forward slash Mind Pump, you'll get 15% off your first

purchase. Adam talked all about the dad life. He's a month into it and it looks like it's getting more fun. That's cars are fun. He got on that house to go buy dog food. Good time. Justin gave us his Jockage Athletes Foot story. He was Athletes Foot.

Right. We talked about how California is passing a law to limit full contact practice in youth football. So little by little, we'll be wrapping people up in bubble tape here in California. We talked about how our kids are using blue blocking glasses when they're on their computers. Nowadays kids use technology and are looking at screens at far higher rates than ever before. And sometimes before bed, which can make sleep less productive. It can actually make it more difficult to fall asleep and not as effective.

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to your children and grandchildren. Uh oh, great. Then we get to the finished portion of this episode. First question, this person wants to know about the pros and cons to powerlifting type training and bodybuilding type training. So what's the good and the bad of each and how should you combine them both?

Next question, this person wants to know about ab machines. Are there any good ab machines that are out there or are all them garbage, like we usually say? Next question, this person wants to know how we recommend D-load weeks. A D-load week is when you go into the gym and you work out lighter or you do different exercises to give your body time to catch up and recover. So you can come back stronger. And the final question, this person wants to know about painful hip flexors. How do you train around painful hip flexors or how do you remedy hip flexors that are tight and sore?

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so we were sitting down for an hour and a half. Do I got up? That was a lot of work. Oh boy. That, I felt everything. I felt like I needed WD-40. Yeah. Because I walked so much this last weekend, like insane.

Where do you feel most in your hips, your back, your knees? What? So here's the whole deal. This is for people who are, I think we're on right now, so I'll tell a story. So the idea was to do Disneyland, Saturday, Universal Studios, Sunday. Okay. In and out. So we flew in. Yeah, that's a monster.

We flew in Saturday. We landed at 8 a.m. Straight to Disneyland, stay with the Disneyland hotel. State at Disneyland did Star Wars land was great, by the way. Yeah, I did. Oh, it was so awesome. Yeah, they do so good. They do such a good job. By the way, Yeah, I did. Oh, dude. It was so awesome. Yeah, they do so good. They do such a good, by the way,

do you guys know much money, Disneyland profits every single day is according to the internet? Uh, every day, $46 million a day profit. Wow. Disney land, profit. Yeah, because as I'm there,

I know some things. No, they're buying everything. That's not possible. Bro, I don't know. Do you know how expensive it is to go there? It is go there and then a bottle of one small bottle like five hundred to six hundred like per family, right? Oh, yeah, no, so I'm trying to do the most merchandise I try to do the math on what that would have to be traffic wise per per person per day if you just figure okay Figure out what you're saying. okay, water, food, figure each person spends,

find out like what their typical day is in terms of like visitors. It's, it's, well, this is, this was from the, this was online, so I'll look it up again, Disneyland. That's why I got a fact check you all the time because you get your information from there. From where, from the best source of information you've all ever.

That's right. Instant access. I mean, for the most part it is, but everyone's about to get some bullshit thing like that. It says, okay, Disneyland gross is a combined 13.6 billion from their six domestic parks annually. That's what they gross.

If you assume the six parks earn revenues, okay, that's not, let's find a more specific. It does got something up there right now. It says 4.5 billion. That's talking about, again, now we're doing annual again. But's find a more. It does got something up there right now. It says 4.5, oh it's billion. That's talking about, again, now we're doing annual again. But that's a profit. Yeah, yeah, it's 4.5 billion of profit for all parks.

Yeah, dude. Yeah, that's insane, right? Yeah, to pay for, I mean, all the maintenance and like everybody. Well, it's not, but it's, it's, because yes, the tickets are expensive as hell, which when I'm seeing families of like with four kids, I'm like, man, those parents spent a ton of money.

But the merchandise, the food, I mean, literally a bottle of water is $5. For a small bottle of water. It's insane, everything, super expensive. But anyway, they do such a phenomenal job there. We were at the galaxy's edge and stormtroopers approached my daughter. Yeah. And one of the characters, one of the Sith Lords or whatever, approaches my daughter.

And he's like, everyone's circle around, you know, because when they walk around the park, everybody's like, oh my god, trantic pictures. Then he points at my daughter and he goes, come here. And he walks over there. And he's like, it's a chialarine. Yeah, yeah. And he's like, when I ask you to, you know, will you join the dark side with me? And she's like, okay. She's so gay. She's like, I ain't saying much convincing. Yeah, no, no, cause she was all shy, right?

So when I ask for your help, you will help us defeat the rebel alliance or whatever and she's like, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. So then he leaves, right? So my son walks up to her and he goes, you just join the dark side. She's like, no, I was lying. That's not what happened.

Do the whole time she was there, she was worried that she'd die. She's worried she actually went to the dark side. I'm like, no, I was lying. That's not what happened to the whole time she was there, she was worried that she died. She's worried she actually went to the dark side. I'm like, you gotta find him and tell him. Oh man. You gotta go find him and tell him you're not. It's like, I don't want to, can you tell him? I'm like, I don't know.

You're on the dark side. Did you get to see like the, the, the cantina area on that side? And you know what I missed was where they, they actually built the droids and everything. I didn't see that. No, yeah. But we went on a lot of rides,

the one in Galaxy's Edge, the one where you're riding the Millennium Falcon, wherever. I got a little bit, a little bit of motion sickness in that. Yeah. Did you see that? Not really.

I mean, were you sitting in the back when the engineers used the guy that's right? Shotgun everywhere we go. Oh, yeah. Oh yeah, so. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But we did that. It's a term of mean just to get on the street. Yeah.

Get out of the couch. Yeah, I'm busy. Yeah. But we were there all day until we saw the fireworks. So we were there till 10 o'clock at night. And then we went to bed, woke up the next day with you to work for 10 days. What time does the park close these days?

Midnight. Oh, it goes to midnight. So it was packed, cause I was there. It was crazy. I didn't even need fast passes. I was like right in the front. So the guy I was asking them, I was talking to people that worked there.

I'm like, man, it is packed in here. They're like, yeah, it was slow for a while because everybody thought it would be so busy when they opened up the Star Wars side. That's why. So everybody's like, oh, I'm not gonna go. They're, and then it made it slow. Oh, that's funny.

But then it got crazy and he said that this was the, I guess so lucky. He said this was the busiest weekend that they'd seen in a long time. It was, it was insane. And then we went to Universal Studios the next day and Universal, man. I mean, I'm telling you, they kill it, dude.

They give, they give Disney a big run for the money. Really? Oh, in terms of pure special effects and quality, I think they beat Disney. I think Disney has it. What about the rides though? Kills Disney. The rides?

Kills Disney. Which ones? Dude, the Transformer one was insane. Really? Yes, I did that. Like, thrill wise or, because they did really well with it. Harry Potter was a big hit.

It's been a long time since I've been a kid and went to uni, because it was a fuck man It was before 99 when I went to universal and when I went there it was like Jaws earthquake. Yeah, they still have that right like and what made universal cool was not a Jurassic Park there It wasn't the right it wasn't the ride so much, but like the effects that's what I'm saying. Yeah, but they also have rides and stuff that are good too Really? Yeah, they're really they have some really good rides too. I haven't been there in years.

I haven't been there. Yeah, that's all I'm asking. It's fucking massive, dude. There's two levels. Huh, how to check it out. There's two levels. You go to the lower lot, and that's where you get the transformers and you get the Jurassic Park.

Their express pass is superior to Disney, because it Disney, I did the max pass thing that's on the app, and you can reserve the rides. But they only allow you to reserve so many rides at one time, you have to wait, and you still have to wait in line when you get there. It's just a, you know, 25, 30 minute wait instead of, an hour and a half.

Universal, dude, I walk, but it was way more expensive. I gotta say that to Universal's way more expensive. You walk in there with the express pass, five minutes. I mean, boom, every ride, every single ride. Every time. Yeah, that's pretty dope. Yeah, it was super, super cool. How much is universal?

You guys were just running. Like, this whole time just going. Ride, ride, ride, ride, or? Dude, and my kids were troopers. I'm so proud of them to do all of that. Oh, and then the Harry Potter section at Universal? Yeah. About my daughter, one of those Harry Potter ones.

And as you're walking through the park, you'll look at the floor and they'll be like, this little compass looking thing with a design on it. And if you stand on it, point your one and follow the design, you'll look at the floor and they'll be like this little compass looking thing with a design on it. And if you stand on it, point your one and follow the design, something will happen in the park. Yeah. So as we're walking through, she'll find one and she'll do the thing and then like a door will open

and something will happen or she'll unlock something. Yeah. Oh, that's cool. Super cool. So now, remind me, I think you told me that you weren't going to tell the kids. Were they surprised? Was this a touch? Oh yeah, so we did was. Yeah, you didn't even tell us to at that time. No, so Friday, I told you told me that you weren't gonna tell the kids. Were they surprised? Was this a torture? Oh yeah, so what we did was.

Yeah, you didn't even tell us to what that happened. No, so Friday, I told the, so my daughter, she's so, God dang, I gotta, I gotta remember this. She's so sharp. She's like, why are you guys acting weird? I'm like, what are you talking about? We're not acting. She's like, something weird is going on.

What's happening? Tell me, I'm like, nothing. I'm looking at Jessica, like, what the fuck this kid? But anyway, finally, I told my son comes over and I'm like, all right, we're going to play Hangman. I'm like, let's play a game. So we're playing Hangman and what they had to figure out was pack your bags. So they figured out and it's just pack your bags. And I look at them, they're like, what are we packing? Like something warm. They're like, okay, I'm like, when you come back down, then we'll play again. They're like, they're right up there when you come back down, then we'll play again.

They run up there, they come back down. Then we play it again, and then it said, Disney and Universal, and they were, Alessia got so excited, she'd like, laid on the floor. She was so fun. I gotta take the salt land. Yeah, no, but we had a good time, but dude, the amount of walking,

we probably did 25, 30,000 steps each day, at least. I bought everybody new shoes. We all had new, like running shoes, so we could be, but it was just my hips or sore. I smashed just three, three dropper folds of Ned and I just to get my body to calm down and to be able to sleep because I knew the next day I had to wake up and do it again. Yeah, we got back at 10 o'clock at night Sunday.

So we got there 8 a.m. Saturday, 10 p.m. Sunday night. And you know what's funny? When I notice the benefits of cannabinoids, it's when I'm pushing my body to the extreme. When I'm at that level, then when I take it, I could tell 40 minutes later or so. Like, oh. See, I find the best use personally is when I have,

in which a day like that would be a two is Less of when I push my body and more of like when I just have a lot of adrenaline going like when we do the talk Anytime we have a talk where we have to speak in front of a crowd or what that like it just gets me hype so much Settle you down. Yeah, then I have a really hard time that night coming down from it That's been like the go-to use for me is when we do something like that. So. No. Anyway, it's a good time. I can't wait, as I was there, as funny, I was there walking around doing the family thing

and I'm like, you know, it's gonna be a, not that long. It's gonna be like a few years or so. Or you're gonna be there with your boy. Oh, it's not as fun. No, I'm excited. My buddy, they took their one year old, so I don't know if I'm gonna go that earlier, not. One's pretty good.

I don't remember. I don't know about that. I mean, what's cool about Disney is, even when they're like two, three years old, like you could take them on a lot of rides with you. And like, so even if it's like that, one part of the section of the park where it's like where all the fantasy land stuff is,

like you can go on a lot of stuff there. Yeah, no, dude, we did the walking dead. They have a whole walking dead house. That's universal, right? Universal, went through that with Jessica. That was hilarious. Because you're walking through, dude, and there's like,

there are real actors and real actors and they're professionals. Dang. And there's like areas where they're like fire burning or whatever, and you see something in the back, like, what the hell is that? And then, dude walks out and you're like, fucking making her scream, or ask off.

It was such a good time. But traveling with little ones though, it's a whole different experience. Like now my kids are a little older, now they just walk and we do our ship. But when they're like three, four, I mean, it's fun, but you ain't doing a lot of stuff. And then it's fun.

Yeah, I can't, yeah, they can't step very fast. Or you can ride, you can't. You put them in the air, dude, the pressure from the plane, like, if they have any kind of little bit of a cold or something, it's like, oh my God, like, now to add like altitude and pressure and all that. And then like, I remember my son just screaming like the whole time on the plane.

And I'm like, sorry, I'm like the dad that's like walking up and down the high. I'm so nervous to be there. Oh, it's awful, dude. I'm just, you can't do anything about it. I don't care how cool you think you are and you're trying to pass it off. Like you are seriously like, you know, you're trapped.

Yeah, that's why when I'm on a plane and there's a kid that's crying, I am. You know, people are so irritable. Like, why do you take, I have kids. So when the person, I feel bad, I feel like damn. I never took him on a the person, I feel bad. I feel like, damn. I never took him on a plane and after that, dude. Not until I was old.

Dude, I want to screw this. One time I went to Italy and it was, I'm not exaggerating. So you're talking about like a 10 hour flight, more, maybe more. The whole flight, there was this one baby that was just crying. The whole 10 hours.

Yeah, that happens. The ridiculous. I was the parent I'd feel. I felt terrible for them. Like my gosh, that poor parent is really considering adoption right now. Speaking of taking kids places, have you guys, either one of you guys taken your kids to peer 39 San Francisco?

Not in the haven yet. So my boy went there. So my best friend took his daughter to Monterey last weekend. And my other best friend, they both had the young kids. He's like, nah, I don't want to go to Monterey. I think it's gonna be crazy. I hear Pier 39 is pretty cool. He went to Pier 39.

Dude, Pier 39 is like shit's on Monterey. They have two, they have two full, like long tubes that you walk through and sharks swimming around it and I'll show you I have wait him in a pier 39 and he read on the whole yes yes it's sick so it's an aquarium yeah it's a dope aquarium so I'll show you guys he haven't been there for years he says all kinds of footage I have a bunch of videos on my phone after we get off I'll show you guys the Monterey aquarium is supposed to be one of the best in the world I Oh, yeah. I think it sucks. I think it's pretty well. Really?

Yeah, dude, it's way smaller than what I anticipated. I love the aquarium. Oh, I think it's one of my favorite places in the world. No. It is. I love it. I love starfish. Oh, look, there's a website for it right there.

But I'll show you the videos of them walking through it. I thought it was, I think it's better than... Why don't you even know I'm gonna take my kids there. Yeah. I love aquariums. It's like my favorite thing. You get to see, I mean, it's science and awesome. I try to deal with going to San Francisco.

That's the only down there. Driving through the hole. Forget about it. That mess, that's true. That's a good point. How was your daddy weekend, Adam, with your... It's dude, so. This is where I'm at right now right this is the

new point and I know you guys just love hearing this shit so I like reluctantly share. Let's see how this is like evolving. That's why I tell Justin not to laugh at you because I want to encourage you to share. I'm not laughing at him. I'm laughing because it's finally you know, anyways, continue. So, you know, it's this weekend, I, you know, I got to wash all the cars, you know, that's what I got to do this weekend. That's right, too. That's right, too.

Yeah, we can break that. Yeah. So, and the part that is. You used to be like, can you treat it? What do you want to do today? I don't know, let's go. Let's go fly somewhere. It's a cool thing. That's cool.

We are, we are that couples. That's why it's, that's why it's interesting right now, right, because we are definitely the couple. And you know, I guess you don't realize how much of that a couple you are until you have a kid, right? Because Katrina and I, we are, we are, we're blessed. We both have flexible careers. We've both done well for ourselves.

We love to travel. We'd like to do things on a whim. Like, so yeah, many, many weekends, her and I will. If we don't have plans with friends or doing things, we would be like, let's just go here. We go to our favorite resorts and spa's or get on a plane, go fly somewhere, do stuff. So I didn't realize how used to that I was until this.

I'm now at the one-in-one month mark, right? So Maximus is one month old exactly. And definitely feeling the cabin fever. And I realized how much I was feeling in cabin fever when I was washing the cars this weekend because I was just fucking excited to watch it. I'm outside. Get it, son.

I caught myself driving the car. I'm on the third vehicle, right? I'm like, I've leaked one car at a time. So what I do is there's a place that does the outside. I like to detail the inside. Why? Apparently I like to detail the inside because it just gives me something to do right now. And so I'll take the car, run it through like an outside wash,

they clean the outside, and then I come back and I have all the detail stuff. And so I go on vacuum, detail the inside and the rims and wheels. Put your headphones on. You know, I have my stereo in my garage, and so it's blaring in the garage. Oh god, dude.

You're so close to buying new balance. Oh my god. Let's go together. How many home depot trips have you got? I've got two. I did, like so. I made two. So yeah. And I did all of that, right?

And I mean, I must have been doing that for five hours plus. I come up starrism, you know, she's a little mini vacation, bro. Yeah, and she's like rocking the baby. And I'm like, oh man, exhausted, like sweat's pouring down me. And I'm like, I'm gonna get the shower.

So that was like, wow, there's a lot of work, whatever. But Phil's so accomplished. And then we're sitting down, maybe for five minutes. She's like, oh, we don't have dog food. We, and I was like, I'll get it. Yeah, I got keys, man. She looks at me all kind of sideways. Like, it's okay.

We have it being delivered on Tuesday. They'll be fine. I'll just make them some rice and chicken for, for till then. I'm like, no, no, no, I'll go get some. And she's like, look at me all weird. I'm like, no, no, it's a nice day. I'm gonna go out there. And I did.

I'm driving and I'm like driving hell of slow. The windows are down. I was saying just listen to my music. And I'm like, and I caught myself just enjoying that moment so much. And it made me realize like, oh, wow, I'm definitely starting to get the cabin fever of being...

It's just a change, bro. Look, here's the best part. The best part about this is you'll never go back. This is it forever. For the rest of your life, bro. Yeah, you find moments of winning. Oh, yeah. I was like, yes, I was five on a new chain size.

I was like, I was really excited about it. You're gonna be excited about it too. Did you really? I did, yes, I bought a new chain size. I was really excited about it. You're gonna be excited about it too. Did you really, I did, yeah. Got chains on, went outside, just, man. You know, felt really accomplished, you know, got some shit done. Honey, do you need me, something from the grocery store? Yeah, I'm there, I'm outta here.

Do you wanna take the kids now? Let's go, the rageiest machine, you know, they won't let me listen. Well, no, this is, it's so funny. I remember, I would, when I'd go to on vacation with, it was me and Jessica and I once a year do this thing where my cousins come and whatever, my cousins married and he has two girls.

Now, my situation is dual custody. So I have my kids one week on one week off. There's some challenges with that, but then there's also, I got, I always try to look at the positive. And it's like, you know what? I get a weekend of tasting what it was like without kids or we can do whatever we want.

So we go on this trip or whatever. And my cousin and his wife are just fucking raging. Hard. And Jessica's like, dang, she's like, they part of you hard. I'm like, you don't understand. This is their time. This is it. They don't ever go. That's their window. This is it. They don't ever go.

That's their window. That's it. They're here for a week. They're gonna fucking go nuts. Yeah. And then they'll go back to it. And they don't get that week on week off like we do. Yeah, yeah.

Now, because I remember what that was like. Yeah, it'll be interesting to see if Katrina and I are gonna be like that. Because obviously we know that once he gets a little bit older that family will be able to take him for a week and or whatever. And now because those weekends will be so sparse and compared to what they were before,

will we go like balls to the wall like crazy. So I mean, we already booked our, so we're, I think the 23rd or whatever this that weekend that is coming up this month, we're heading up to, I had to get out. I was like, we just, we're fucking taking them. You know what I'm saying? Like we're taking them, we're going up to the beach

and gonna go do one of our favorite places to stay up in Carmel area because I just gotta get out of the house. Oh, you're gonna take the baby? Yeah, I can't wait to hear about all the stuff you have to bring. It's funny that you mentioned that because I find all my opportunities

to leave the house all the time right. And I even was like, I worked out with you. I think it was Friday or we went to go to club sport. And then as I was going in, you had your sandals. I didn't have my sandals, right? And I got this like this itch on my foot. I'm like, oh no, I think I have athletes foot. So I use that as like as an excuse to go to CVS.

I'm like, I'm out. I gotta go pick something up. And I can actually, yeah, I got athletes foot. Ew'm out, I gotta go pick something up. And check it out at least for a bit. Yeah, I got athletes' footage. Ew, yeah, take care of that. And I'm like, yeah, I got this. And I went and I went and grabbed it. And I'm looking around, I'm looking for this athlete's foot spray.

And there's no athletes foot spray. But there's juckage spray. Same thing. Same thing. But label different, right? Yeah, when you buy it at the register. So I'm at the register. And the guys like talking shop with me or whatever. And I had something else that I bought because you don't want to just buy just the

joke. It's spray. You want something else to kind of like, yeah, I was here for other things too. Right. You know, still, still wool. Yeah. And so he's like trying to go through the singing and he literally priced checked me and was just like, oh oh no, this isn't

lining up. Hey, they got another one of the assistant, you know, people out there to go get another version. I went through three different bottles of Jock it's spray before they finally like got one where they're like, oh, here's this one's right. Damn it. I'm fucking up there and then I'm like, I have a whole line like forming behind me and everything.

I'm like, dude, you gotta be kidding me. The whole store does get a rash with your dick now. Yeah, I'm just like, great. I'm like, it's for my foot. It's for my foot. My dick is fine. Oh, dick's good. There's no crazy stuff going on there. Did you actually get athlete's foot or did you just despair?

I was just, yeah, I was just paranoid because I had an itch. So yeah, I didn't feel at the next day or anything. So I was not of, yeah. That's the same stuff that's in that. It's for Jockage, Athletes Foot and for yeast infection. Oh, did you know that? It had all three. Yeah, I'm like, who knows?

Well, these days. You never know. You never know. What was that article? You, was it you Adam that shared about California limiting full contact? Oh, yeah, no, my cousin sent that over to me. He's like who'd our fucking state? That's what he said to me because he's a football. He's an ex football player, right? I'm sure we need any sent over that and I guess they're passing a law. I guess it was already a little

I didn't even know this. I guess it was a law in middle school. And now it's moving its way up to high school even, where they are taking away, if I read it correctly, they're gonna pass the law. So let me read it. It says, California's limiting full contact practices for youth football teams to reduce brain injuries. Governor Gavin Newsom signed a law, that's fun, it's a law. Wednesday limiting full contact practices

to 30 minutes per day twice a week. And they're banned entirely during the off season. Wow. So is youth considered high school and lower? I think so, right? Yeah, it must be, right? Wow, so they only get to hit each other full contact 30 minutes twice a week.

Yeah, how do you get a prep properly for? I mean, I get the limiting amount of exposure to like, you know, potential injuries and whatnot, but I mean, let that be on the coaches' discretion. Yeah, but I thought I read an article somewhere that they did the, they compared the hits of a, you know, like a 10 year old, to a 15 year old, to like a, you know, 20 to,

oh yeah, way less force production. Yeah, I heard the likelihood of a kid doing any sort of real damage at that young of an age is like so. They're not doing the obvious, is what they need to do, because this, for me, okay, I've commented on this before,

and I stand by what I've said in the past, I think we're gonna see the end of football as we know it. Not only to mean football's gonna end,. Not only does it mean football is going to end. What I mean is I think this is the beginning of football kind of making some fundamental changes. The obvious thing for me would be to eliminate the helmets and pads, and I know what people think,

like that'll make it more dangerous. No, it won't actually make it safer. Yeah, well. Because rugby players don't have the same level of, they have lots of injuries and stuff, don't get me wrong, but you're not getting the same brain trauma because you're not hitting with your head the same way. Yeah, I mean, they're still proving that even body contact

gives like partial like concussions to anyway, and the trauma from that. So even soccer is on the forefront for that as well. So it's like, it's definitely a targeted and it is like the most impact you're gonna get out of any sport because it's like full-on collisions and they use, like I used my helmet as a battering ram. You know, like it's a tool,

like instead of like with rugby, you would absorb a little bit more of the impact and roll with it. So it was a different tackling technique completely. But yeah, dude, I don't know, man, like the old man in me is starting to kind of turn the corner on that and be like, dude, everybody's a bunch of pussies. And, you know, like I'm tired of like cutting out these outlets

for young, you know, men to, you know, get rid of all this like aggression and a healthy environment for it. I, I, I have to agree with you. I think sports are physical and I don't think we can make everything perfectly safe. Well, half of what makes it entertaining is the danger. Let's be honest.

You just like you, you go to watch a car race around in a circle, not because it's fucking cool to watch a car drive around in a circle, not because it's fucking cool to watch a car drive around in a circle, but because there could be a crazy accident that's super fucking scary and dangerous. That's what makes it suspenseful and enjoyable to watch. It's just a fact. Like you don't watch MMA because you very few people are watching the UFC because they're really interested in all the tactical moves of all the different martial arts. You watch it because it somebody could get fucked up, you know, and it's scary to

get in the ring and do that. Like I think that's, you start minimizing that so much, then it'll lose its lustre. People won't care about it. We're trying to make everything perfectly safe all the time. And, you know, here's the thing. I don't think, I think the law is just reflecting more of an attitude than it is trying to, you know, change things. In other words, I think this is a lot of people saying that they want this to happen. The end of the, what I really think is going to show the end is the enrollment rates are less and less parents putting their kids in football. Is it become less and less of a popular sport with kids? If that's the case, that's what feeds professional football.

Now, professional football makes a shit ton of money. It's huge. That still hasn't shown any signs of declining, but it's only a generation or two that will start to see the realm of things. My argument to this is that just like when we, remember when they did that whole survey on the Olympic athletes that said if they, you know, if they were to die, you know, four years later or whatever, after getting a gold medal.

What would they do whatever it took to get? Yeah, would they do whatever it took? And they all said yes. Yeah, I know. I think sure you might see this decline in like enrollments and like football at the younger population. But I think because it's too late, they can make so much money at the professional level

and us as viewers still love it, that there's always gonna be that pool for someone to be like, fuck it, I don't care. I don't care if it's dangerous. I don't care if I die at 35. Like if it means I get to be a millionaire from 20 to 35, I would do it. Maybe.

And there's gonna be, yeah, for sure. Well, you know, I'll tell you why. You got to remember, you got to remember the kids that are in the projects, man, and are coming out of the ghetto and stuff like that, where their life is already at risk. And they are, it's like, either you get into drugs or get into gangs or you get into sports. And for them, sports has the most ups, or potential ups.

Here's why I say maybe, they would rather go there. Here's why I say maybe because eSports is exploding. And the money opportunities there are huge. And if you're a parent in a bad area, in a bad neighborhood, and your kids like, I want to stay inside and practice this video game that I could potentially make money on,

that's even safer than going outside and playing basketball or football or any other sport outside. All I'm saying is, I think it make money on. That's even safer than going outside and playing basketball or football or any other sport outside. All I'm saying is, I think it's gonna happen. I think we're gonna see a big shift, but it'll take a couple generations. And I think we're all gonna be shocked because you ask kids today,

they don't know who professional athletes are. They don't really care. No, it's definitely changing. I know the landscape is changing, but I do feel that it's one of those, like a physical display, everybody just will sit and watch. Like they're like, wow, like, because it's watching a bunch, it's like a freak show.

And everybody's smashing into each other, like there's always gonna be boxing, there's always gonna be MMA, there's always gonna be football, there's always like the ones that have the most potential for, you potential for injury, like people wanna keep that. Well, Justin, what are you seeing with your boys?

Cause I know that your boys are into sports and they play video games. Like what are you seeing with them? Like are they full into one or the other? Are you seeing something different? It's like, honestly, it's like, it's equal parts. So like between their friends and everything what they talk about is, is either baseball,

basketball, football, or like completely, you know, Minecraft, Roblox, you know, like all these different games. But yeah, it's very competitive. Like, like, there's like a split between like interests with their friends. Like, like, right now, but I don't know if like sports are, sports are definitely taking a hit in terms of popularity. Do you see a difference in them versus like, because you played video games, I played video games growing up and I played sports. And like if I think back to like,

and I love video games, I'm gonna be like, I remember many, many like weekends where we would just fucking plug in and veg out. That's all we would do. But I also remember two going on streaks where all we would do too was play basketball from sun up to sun down. So I think I had a probably a pretty even mix of like real life sports where I was doing

something physical like wakeboarding, snowboarding, basketball, football, baseball, playing, and so on that. And then I was the other half like, you know, playing video games. And for us it was like a lot of that dictated by the day, you know, like if it was a rainy, crappy day, and so like that, like we're not out playing basketball,

we can't do anything like that. So we're like, oh, let's muck out on video games. We play video games all day long. Yeah. So what do you see with your boys? Well, I think it's mainly because they get limited time with me, like I only allow for a certain amount of time they can even play.

So it's like on top of mine constantly trying to pitch me on like, you know, we'll do this to, you know, they're always trying to like sell themselves on getting more of that time, like, and they talk about a lot with their friends, but like I, they still are really much like, you know, involved physically, like trying to like do get better at basketball and baseball. How are they when they stay on video games

or electronics for too long? Cause I know as my kids are, it's different. Like if they're outside playing for a long time, they come inside, they're calm, it's all good. It's whatever. They have to video games, TV all day. It's their shitty. Exactly.

Yeah, that's, that's my thing. I gotta get them out of the house and get some sun and like get some activity, because yeah, the worst is if you wait too long and they're playing. So actually, you know what's interesting. So Felix Gray has these glasses frames, like kid size now. And so we just got those in. Oh, you got those in?

Yeah, I got them. And so the kids have been wearing them for the last week and a half. And when they get up sometimes before us, Yeah, I got them and so the kids have been wearing them for the last like week and a half and When they get up sometimes before us like they'll watch even watching TV I got them to wear them as they're watching TV and like because they they come up and they keep the lights off And then they're watching like this blue screen and You know like even when they're playing video games like

The one hour, you know, if I allow it, then, you know, they're wearing those. And so I've actually noticed a little bit of a difference in terms of being able to have them transition from that to back to reality. I swear, there's this, like this, this, like, it's like ripping a band-aid a lot of times, like, really bad behavior.

I gave a pair to my son. I did, because he'll, I let him play from like when his sister goes to bed at like eight, 30 or nine till about 10 or 10, 30. And so he has a pair right next to his computer and I'm like, you gotta wear these. Yeah, and you know, it's funny. I'm trying to get him to make connect the dots. One of the hardest things for me has been with my kids

is been having them figure something out for themselves versus telling them, because sometimes if I tell them, then they refuse to learn the lesson because it's just me telling them. So I try to say it, so I ask my son, I said, do you notice any differences when you sleep, when you're wearing them versus you're not?

And he's like, oh, I'll see, I'll pay attention or whatever. So I'm like, okay, so I took them the other day, I took them from him and told him I needed him and I let him purposely use the computer without him. And the next morning he was tired. I'm like, how was your sleep? And he goes, oh, yeah, I couldn't fall asleep till midnight.

I'm like, that's weird. I'm like, were you wearing the glasses? He's like, no, I couldn't find them. I'm like, oh, okay, put them back in his room. I'm trying to get him to connect the dots. Yeah, himself. Exactly. Versus like, oh, my dad wants me to wear these nerdy glasses.

That's the thing. Well, that's the thing is they think they're cool. So they're all about wearing them. Yeah, if you tell them all the time, they don't want to listen. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? Lessons I learned from my parents after I had my own kids. Oh yeah, I guess my dad was right that whole time.

You know, I don't want to listen to them though, because you know, he's my dad. Well, they'll see me in Courtney wear him. And so they're just, yeah, like we want to wear him too. Yeah. Well, Doug's waving at us. Felix Gray's got a sale. They never have sales.

What's the sale? So from August 6, which is today to the 12th, they are offering 15% off certain styles of their sunglasses. Oh, that's the first time they've had a sale. Yeah, they don't do sales. Wow. That's crazy That is cool anyway, so do you guys did you guys have great workouts? Cuz I saw in the group text how jazz you guys were on tool being on spot. Oh, yeah, I'm in binging my tool like crazy

Oh, we can do everything Yeah, I meant to say that Exactly how sounds sounds. Justin's was binge-gissed. Yes. Binge-gissed tool. Dude, I told you no joke is true story. I was like this close to going out and buying a disc man because I've like, what the fuck do you find the disc? So first of all, I went and bought, uh, this was just maybe about a year ago.

I went and bought all the tool CDs. So I have all of them. Actually, in fact, I have three of them that I have been open. Because I just like, I gave up on them ever being going streaming. I just assumed that they're gonna be one of those fucking bands that decide they're never doing it. Yeah, they're never gonna do it.

I'm like, what I don't want to be is searching for their albums and can't get a hold of them somewhere. So I went out and bought all of their stuff because I just love all of tools albums. So I have all of them. And it was always my number one go-to music when I lift. That's my favorite. When we talk about on the show, all the different,

and we agree because we are all very similar like what's our favorite bands. Listen to it, we're pretty close. Tool for sure is like my number one all time. I could listen to album after album like for weeks on weeks of that for working out. So I was like, fuck it, dude, I'm gonna go get a dis man and I'm gonna fucking listen to my tool I lit. So I was already looking at it. Yeah, it's like this does nothing good. I can get it. It's all big and bulky.

Such an asshole in the gym. And then this comes out. Justin mentioned to me that they were coming and then I right away was watching you guys were crazy on the group text Oh, he can out dude. I mean like this is a big deal dude. Yeah, they they had held out for what it when did streaming even like become a thing Oh, it's been a while and 10 years or so. Yeah, maybe something like that. Yeah, it's been a long time But yeah, I was like dude no tool and you'd see you'd see search form every now and then it'd be a playlist of like songs that are kind of like a tool song. You know, like people put together, you're like, no. That's just a tool.

Wow, look at those dis-man, 20 bucks. Do you remember how much dis-man cost back in the day when they were a hundred? They were like $100. Well back in the little more, they were more than that, like 150. Do you guys know how much the original Walkman cost when it came out?

First of all, Doug, can you find out the day the year the Walkman came out? I think it was 1978, it might be? With the first Sony Walkman came out. 1979, gosh, look at that. Do you know how much that cost back then? How much? $370, not adjusted for inflation.

The cost of a Walkman then was over 300 bucks. No way. Yeah, I'm, dude. Yes. Super expensive, not adjusted for inflation. Bro, you know how, that's like, would be like something being like a thousand something dollars today.

Exactly. Yeah. Well, it was so, it was so crazy. It was so revolutionary, right? You could walk around with music strapped to your hip. In fact, every movie in the 80s, anytime they showed a teenager, what would they show? Yeah, they had.

Yeah, they had fucking headphones with the orange. Yeah, because before that, it was like, you had a boom box that you would like, put on your shoulder and just be like, yeah, roll up somewhere. No, that was how much it cost back then. So imagine, if people want, you want to talk about how markets have make prices go down, you could buy a cassette player now for five bucks. I'm sure if you wanted to I mean we saw disc players for 20

I mean they're hard to find you could probably get it from free Give someone's guy something in a box like did you guys ever have an original Not that not that one mean either. Yeah, no, no, not that one I had yeah, I had one of the ones that was like it tried to reinforce it with a thicker plastic You know like the big yellow one. When Discman came out and everybody had him in the gym, I stuck to a walk him in for a long time because the, they didn't skip.

Yeah, I did too. You know, Discman. I tried the Discman. I was late. I was one of those guys that like was late to the CD and the DVD. I had video, I had video sets for that. You know, a revolutionary shuffle mode was. Oh yeah. That was video, I had video sets for it. You know our revolutionary shuffle mode was?

Oh yeah. That was like, whoa, I could do it in different order. Yeah. Do you guys know the story behind beta and VCR? Remember beta max? Yeah, yeah. So the big ones? No, beta was smaller.

Oh, which one was the laser? Your team was laser-disk. No, beta max were like VHS. They were, you know, taper whatever. But they competed with VHS. The difference was beta got licensed to Sony only. And they said nobody else can make beta. And they thought they were being smart, but the problem was that it didn't work because

VHS allowed everybody else to use that technology. Oh, that's the same way. And beta went down the two. That's like same bullshit that happened to Blu-ray, right? Blu-ray, yeah, versus HD DVDs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just goes to show you, you know? Whatever.

Anyway, so I got to study. Oh, that's like dinosaur shit now, anyway. Yeah, no, everybody listening's like, huh? I got to study on epigenetics, it's kind of interesting. So they did this big, this was a big study. I believe in the university of San Diego, if I'm not mistaken, and they found that people who suffered from like terrible trauma and tragedy.

Now, when people have a trauma or tragedy, even if they come back and live a normal life, their life expectancy is much lower. The stress has a real effect on the body. They're finding that their children and grandchildren have the same thing. Even if their children and grandchildren have. What?

Yeah. That the epigenetics are causing, it's like you can almost pass on your stress if you're well through your genes. Wow. How crazy is that? That is crazy. Isn't that wild?

Yeah. I mean, I wonder if that's, I mean, is that gonna make future generations? It also makes sense to the, when you have like, someone like drive and passion, like you see that sometimes we get passed down generation, like you got a dad who was like,

just fucking grind or hard worker, then your son ends up being that same way too. I wonder how much of that has passed down to him versus learned. Like I just assumed it was a learned behavior, like oh, you see dad working really hard, and so you assume that you get a hard work. Well, to me, yeah, that's obvious, right?

The behavioral aspect of it. But the other side of it seems obvious to me too, because think about it. If you and your partner are making a baby, it makes sense that the information that the sperm and the eggs contain and then when they make the baby, it makes sense that it will pass on the probability of what the environment will be like

for that baby to be born into. You know what I'm saying? So if you're, if you both, you know, if food is very scarce, very, very scarce, it makes sense that the genes will be switched on to store more calories and to be more frugal with, you know, burning calories because the babies, the genes are predicting

what environment they're being born into. Same thing with stress. If the baby believes that the genes believe it's gonna be born into this high stress environment, the genes that help the body or help the person survive the stress are also genes that make the longevity not as good. How many generations does it take to phase that out?

Well, I said, they found it in children and grandchildren, so maybe two generations. I don't know. It's kind of crazy though, right? That is crazy. It's really wild. There's one guy who wrote about that he believes that, and he was a scientist, that he thinks that ADD

and ADHD qualities, because when you read about ADD and ADHD, there's some detriment to being that way, but there's also some potential positives. Like what's the evolutionary role of that? Well, somebody with ADD and ADHD probably took more risks, was the first person to go over the hill, to explore what's over there. People with ADD, ADHD tended to do better in sales jobs

and stuff like that as a result because they're kind of changing directions all the time, moving whatever. And this one scientist said that he thinks that a greater percentage of people with 80 and 80 HD were the immigrants that came to America because think about the scariness of leaving a country, come into a country, don't speak the language, especially in the early days where you didn't get nothing. It was like you come here and you survive or you don't.

That it was like a self-selection of people with 80D and 80HC coming to America, and then there are kids being born here. And he said that he thinks that's one of the reasons why our rates are higher. I don't know if I necessarily agree with it, but I think it's an interesting theory. That is interesting.

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First question is from Steve Kellerman. What are the pros and cons to a powerlifting type approach to training and to a bodybuilder type approach to training? Excellent. Excellent question. All right, so I'll start with the pros of the powerlifting style of training. Number one, you learn really, really good, effective, inefficient technique and form with your movement. It's more objective. Yeah, you are focused on perfecting the movement

to maximize leverage and maximize just your overall performance. So a powerlifting, when they're squatting, and I'm talking about raw powerlifting, I'm about talking about wearing squat suits and all that stuff, this is a whole different ballgame. You're also talking about the big four too. Yeah.

Because, saying that, you have to be careful, I feel like, because one of the drawbacks I see of power lifters, when they transition over into bodybuilding, is they try and power lift the isolation exercise. Well, that was just gonna say pros and cons, right? So the pros are like power lifters squat well, they bench well, they did lift well, but they don't know how to feel, they don't feel muscles and I don't mean that they don't feel

their muscles working, but they don't know how to make muscles work and feel them squeezing and isolating a lot of stuff. And power lifting because it's performance based doesn't have the same longevity. If you body build and you do it right, you isolating a lot of stuff. And powerlifting because it's performance based doesn't have the same longevity. If you body build and you do it right, you have a lot of longevity. You could lift like a body builder forever. I look at Dexter Jackson, just one first place in the last pro show.

Almost no injuries. And he's never trained, he never trained like the other guys, like Doreen Yates and Ron E. Coleman, who trained with lots of heavyweight branched warm and lots of injuries, for example. You know, Dexter barely any injuries and his how old is he now, 50 something?

Yeah, and he's winning pro shows. You wanted a Tampa Pro, looks amazing. But power lifters, again, they got that technique. They also had that objective quality of strength. Their powerlifting programs are usually way better. Some of the best. Yeah, like superior. Yeah, bodybuilding programs tend to be shit in terms of how they're written.

Well, it's very simplified. You know, and I mean, it's like, I mean, you live in the bilateral movement. Like that's, I guess one of the detriment's too is like you're just not going to be, you know, experience a lot of like unilateral type situations or split stances or anything like that. Yeah, no. It also builds a different type of a body when most people that are listening to this right now

tend to be somebody who's looking for aesthetics, looking to change their body composition. Most people that are listening to our show fall in the category of wanting to feel better, look better, and powerlifting is performance-based. So it's more about what you can do versus how well you look or sculpting and shaping a body. I think the key here is to know

that there's pros and cons of both and to do them both. Oh, 100% yeah. I mean, that's where you're gonna get all the value. That's just the both for sure. And I think the way I would look at it is when you're first starting out with lifting, a powerlifting approach might be a better approach to start with, but then as you continue, you'd more and more bodybuilding.

I find myself doing that. I don't lift as heavy as I used to because the wrist versus reward... Now I agree with you. I agree with you. Would you explain something that, because just hearing it come out of your mouth, it makes you go like, oh, I bet there's a bunch of people that are thinking, when you hear power lift, right away you assume assume, like, max lift and like super heavy weight. Like, this sounds like, oh, that's power.

No, I mean, I mean the programming. Right, right, but I think that's important to, and I think that's what scares a lot of it. This one definitely probably kept me away from training that way. I was never, I was never trying to get a max lift. I didn't care about that because I wasn't a power lifter. And so when people used to ask me as a trainer in my 20s,

like, oh, what's your bench? Or, oh, what's your deadlet? What's your squat? I'm like, I don't know. And I literally, I trained for years, years and years, not knowing what my heaviest bench, heaviest deadlet, heaviest squat is, because I never lifted that way.

I never did singles, I never did doubles, I never did triples, I never did anything less than five or six reps. So I couldn't honestly tell somebody, like I've never actually tried to just lift the weight so heavy I could only get it up one time. And I think that people assume that if you're into power lifting, that that's kind of the main objective

that your goal is to lift the most amount of weight possible. Therefore, you're training this way that just doesn't appeal to somebody who's just trying to train for aesthetics or look better or look different. No, I like powerlifting too because for people of body image issues, powerlifting's a great way to transition out of that. One of the most effective things I could do with my female clients in particular, who had lots of body image issues, was to say, we're not going to on your looks, all we're gonna focus on is how strong you are and we're gonna train for strength.

We're gonna see how we can get your deadlift or squat, your bench press, your overhead press, and take your focus off of your body. And it was great because they could take their obsessive, you know, tendencies in terms of looking in the mirror and weighing themselves, and focus it on performance, which is a good transition.

You don't wanna stay there because you become obsessed about that too. It's not good for you. But it's a good transition out of the body and much stuff. And it's good for people who wanna speed up their metabolism. So if you have some of that over diets all the time and is doing too much working out all the time and they're just like,

I need to get out of that and I need to just focus on my performance. It's also very clear on your progression, right? Like when you're when you're our bodybuilding and you are using a mirror and a scale to kind of tell you like, oh, am I doing a good job? And you have, especially if you have mental issues, like you're talking about South where you have some sort of a, you know, a body image issue, then it's really easy for yourself to play mind game. So your body looks fatter today. Oh, you don't have to be a little bit of the lighting's off or you're holding a little extra water.

So then you look different, but it's very clear if you are stronger this week or weaker this week than you were the previous week or two. And so I like it for those reasons too. I think it's just, it's a much better place. In fact, a lot of clients, even if I'm not training them in powerlifting and specifically, I still will use strength as the main indicator for us to focus on because even though even if we're following a bodybuilding program, I think it's healthier for most clients to teach them that way.

Agreed. And then the other thing about bodybuilding is it teaches you how to feel the target muscles you're trying to work, which is the exact opposite of what you're trying to do when you're powerlifting. Like when you're powerlifter and you're bench pressing, what muscles you feel are literally irrelevant. Besides the fact that you want to be able to get in the right position and maximize leverage and lift the most amount of weight. That's when you start to feel muscle, like activate your lats or whatever, I get that.

But you're not trying to feel your chest or your shoulders or your triceps. You're just trying to lift the most amount of weight and so you're working on leverage and technique. With bodybuilding, it's about feeling the muscle. So if you're like, I'm doing heavy squats, but my butt isn't developing the way I want, or I'm doing lots of bench press, but I don't like the way my chest looks, then you would go to body building and figure out how to feel the target areas you're trying to focus on. Body building is better, the body building mentality is better for correctional

exercise too. If I took a power lift there and try to do corrective exercise with them and told them to isolate and feel what they're trying to do and connect to the movement. It's a different mentality completely. With a body builder, I can have them move and say you're trying to feel it right here, and they'll be able to connect. You can adjust the tempo a lot more with your body builder type of a program. I just can't see that working out too well with powerlifting and really highlighting the eccentric portion of the lift specifically.

You're going to be able to feel a lot more as you do like a bodybuilder style where we're focusing on the each individual joint and try to gain that connectivity, which will then feed into the overall result if you, that's why they blend well together and they actually work well. I mean, to break it down, you know, powerlifting is you're trying to consistently get stronger at particular lifts and powerlifting is the squat, the bench, and depth. And that's always the goal.

It's to get stronger at those lifts and to do other exercises and design your routine around getting stronger at those lifts and learning how to maximize leverage and technique in order to get better numbers. Body building is all about developing your body, developing different parts of the body to look a particular way.

Yes, sculpting the physique. Longevity wise body building superior. If you had to just pick one and you wanna do it for the rest of your life, and minimize injury, you would train like a body builder. And you would be able to do that forever. Powerlifting, the longevity is just not there. Now I'm not saying that there aren't old powerlifters out there.

I'm not saying there aren't, you know, 70 or over 80 year old competitors. I've seen them, but the odds of hurting yourself by training like a powerlifter, just higher. So it sleeves on every joint. Yeah, it's just higher. You make yourself stiff, you could hurt yourself, always challenging how much you can do.

Whereas a body builder goes in there, and the weight is arbitrary, a real body builder, a true body builder, you know, unless the weight is changing so drastically that they're like, oh my god, something's not working, a body builder really doesn't care. They just care about what it feels like and is it developing the muscles the way I want them to and that's a mentality that lasts a long time

It's got great longevity if I'm in the gym and I'm a power lifter and I'm watching my numbers go down because I'm getting older which will happen That fucks with your head now with the body builder of course the changing of the body Fucks with your head also, but when they're in the gym They're just feeling it so to a bodybuilder's like whatever 135 315 on the bar I feel it my quads, you know, where I want to feel it. It's a better mentality, longevity-wise. I'm not saying it's a guarantee again, because I think both people can be, you know, fucked up in terms of how they approach things. Well, that's like you said, in the perfect world, you live in both. You know, in a perfect

world, you take a little bit of both and, and, and you know, depending on you're, I think, more attracted to, whether that be, if you're somebody who cares more about being strong in the performance aspect, you probably live in the powerlifting world a little more and occasionally are bodybuilding. If you care more about aesthetics and shaping and sculpting in the way you look, as far as then you spend a little more time in bodybuilding, but still occasionally work, you know, into powerlifting world. And I think the combination of the two of those carries over into both pursuits. I think for the average person, every 12 weeks, you should probably have two to four weeks of powerlifting style training. So two weeks to four weeks, you could have that kind of

a phase every 12 weeks or so for the average to four weeks, you could have that kind of a phase every 12 weeks or so for the average person that'll reap the benefits of that kind of training. It'll give you the aesthetic benefits because Powerlifting training does give a different look to the body, in my opinion. This is my anecdote, but I know that solid look that people like Powerlifting or Heavylifting

tends to produce that. And I think that's about it. Unless you're a competitive Powerlifter, I think more than that and you're starting to get that You know that's a good conversation and it's it is It's debatable. I don't know. I don't have any science that supported I've talked about it on the show before. I know you've shared it There was a major there was a significant difference in the way my physique looked after I got into powerlifting also. And the best way that I can describe it is this, is I was always the guy, because I train

like a bodybuilder most of my career in hypertrophy and supersets and chasing a pump, which is I think that's most people can relate to that if you train this way. It's all about the pump and the feel and the muscle thing, right? When I trained like that, I looked amazing in the gym. I was when I was aired up when I was all pumped up, but an hour later after I left the gym, I would feel like I would deflate all the way back down on the sides.

When I got into powerlifting, even though powerlifting never seemed to give me as good of pumps as the bodybuilding type of girl, where I didn't feel as inflated, what I felt was I had put on like size that didn't go away when I left the gym. Dan, it gives you that dense muscle. Right. That was that to me is the biggest difference that I personally have experienced by adding

powerlifting for a guy who cares more about aesthetics. It actually has made my physique look better throughout the day no matter what. Is it true? Did Arnold start as a powerlifter or Olympic lifter first? Yeah, for Bible. Yeah, they all did back in those days. And he, him and Franco used to do powerlifting cycles in their training. It was part of their training.

Bodybuilders don't really do it so much to anymore because I think the risk factor, the injury, risk factor. But some of the top bodybuilders of all time lifted that way. Again, during the eights, Ronnie Coleman, you know But some of the top bodybuilders of all time lifted that way. Again, Doreen Yates, Ronnie Coleman, but again, look at them now, injured and Doreen tore muscles and Ronnie really had a bad time.

I think he under-an-anami surgery, he's out in his back. He just has hips, his hips are completely replaced. Yeah, and at a certain point, let me put it, I mean, at a certain point, maxing out, it's always a higher risk because you're pushing, you're just really pushing your body really hard, but also consider the amount

of weight that you're lifting. If you get really, if you hit your goal and get real fucking strong, you know, when I'm dead lifting 500 pounds, if I'm off a little bit, the potential for injuries way higher than when I'm off a little bit with 315, you know, it just is. So, so that's another thing to consider.

Next question is from low without limits. What are the pros and cons to add machines like the hoist crunch and oblique twist ones? Would they have any benefit due to the resistance you can add or no real benefit because they're a machine? Well, that doesn't fit everybody's body. I think that for the most part, I'm not a fan of machines, although you could easily catch me using one of these machine crunches

myself personally in the gym, but the reason why I'm not a fan of it with most people is, abs, when I think of it as a trainer, all the clients that I had, and trying to get them to connect to and use properly, abs is up there with probably the top three as far as most difficult, I think of lats. I definitely think of abs being up there like you.

Everybody just folds forward. Yeah, it's really isolated. Right. It tends to be a hip flexor exercise for most people. And when you get in a machine that's really not designed specifically for your body, it makes that even harder. So it's real easy for you to use your arms to pull down on, use your hip flexors to lift up on.

And so even though these machines are really cool and I think you can't, and you still fill it in the abs, so that's something where people go wrong is they're like, well, I fill it in my abs, well, yeah, your abs are working too, but a majority of the load is you're cheating with your arms or with your hip flexors and you'd be far better off just getting on the ground and doing something more slow and controlled. If you're folding forward at the hips or largely at the hips, your abs have to stabilize. They still have to stabilize your spine. So you will fill in the abs, but you're not

working your abs in a full range of motion, and you're working a pattern, or you're developing a pattern where your hip flexors become dominant, which down the road that can contribute to increased risk for back injury and problem. So you're not going to develop your abs as well as you want aesthetically, and you're also going to potentially set yourself up for more injuries. And for more injuries. I have yet to ever find a app machine or a bleak machine that I was impressed with. And I've seen a lot of them. It's tough to load. Yeah, it's tough to load.

I'll tell you one that I really like. I like the the the ab rocker one where your knees are on the slider that's on like a U. Oh, I know what you're talking about. I need to have really good, I do, I use that one too? Oh, I know what you're talking about. I need to have really good, I use that one too sometimes. I know exactly what you're talking about. Yeah. If you don't have good control of your abs, good luck.

Well, all of them are that. To me, all of them can suck for most people. But you, if I can't say that, and then all of a sudden you, someone sees me inside the gym and they catch me on one of these machines. But you know how to make that do, because how easy would that be to do with just your hip flexors?

No, totally. It's straight in the roll it and swing it back and forth completely. But what I like about it is my spine is completely free and it's not confined in a machine and it allows me to tuck my tailbone really, really well. So it's one of my favorite ab machines that exist that are out there.

But to Salis Point, again, I still would not teach that to a client until I've got a client who really can engage their abs and move properly. If you're that person and you're listening, then yeah, then all of these machines can be useful and cable crunches that you see people doing and all these, there's a lot that problem is, in my experience, the clients that I've trained,

it's one of the top areas that someone has a really hard time activating. They're just not connected. Totally, I would say this, learn how to really work your abs through a full range of motion, get good control of them, develop them well, without machines, then when you get to that point, then you control of them, develop them well without machines. Then when you get to that point, then you could probably...

You know it'll navigate better. Yeah, then you could probably find some machines that'll benefit you. As far as obliques are concerned, cable chop. A cable is going to be your best if you want to add resistance to twisting movements. Use a cable chop. Again, I have used oblique machines that lock you into place, that you have to twist. It's so easy to just use your arms and your legs and not use the obliques to rotate you.

It's almost like those machines are good only if you're already good at working those areas. If you're already developed and you've got those muscles working really well, go ahead and give them a shot. If not, I would stay clear away from them. I would say this with machines, pressing movements and rowing movements

tend to be the better use of machines. Once you start to get to certain things like arm movements are okay, but only if your arms are too long or too short. Leg exercises, same. Arms are too long or too short, probably not good. But boy, these ab ones, I mean, you really need to know what you're doing in order to use them right. Next question is from Live In Proof 277.

What do you recommend for a D-load week and how often should you do one? That's a really tough question to answer because it's going to be completely different for every person. Going back to the very first question we answered right now with the bodybuilding and powerlifting. Like, I could have a power, or I could have a bodybuilder who's been training and scaling his workouts for months on months and even years and like not have to throw in a deload week because they're not really fucking stretching themselves the same way that a power lifter would. Now a power lifter real easily,

and I'm talking about myself here, I can catch myself again chasing the PRs and increasing weight and lifting singles, doubles, and triples, and it's real quick, so yesterday, this is what how I train, this is kind of, this is not a D-load week, but this is along the lines of this conversation. So on what it's today's Monday, on Friday or Saturday,

getting one of my days mixed up here, on Friday or Saturday, I posted on my Instagram, I was a heavy deadlifting, I was deadlifting 450, which is really heavy for me right now. I haven't lifted that heavy in a long time, and I wanted to kind of stretch myself. I wanted to see what I could pull right now. I was, I've been working towards it again. And I was doing heavy singles. I did like four sets of singles, four 50 something. And boy, I mean, my, my low back is fried. And then I was due on Sunday to do lakes.

And so I would love to squat, but my low back is so toast that it doesn't make a lot of sense for me to do that. So even though that was on my original plan to be front squatting that day, my low back and core was blasted from the heavy deadlift. So I actually leg pressed and used leg sentience

and sissy squat. I did a lot of things that didn't load my low back. So even though I didn't do like a real deal a week, but these are the adjustments that were be individualized on the person. Like if I had somebody who just went really heavy on something and really stressed their body that much, then yeah, it might call for backing off a little bit

for a day or two or three maybe even or just modifying the exercises and movements. I mean, I could have probably got to, I'm in a super motivated mood right now, so I'd still train, you know, Adam who just cares about longevity and health probably would have just done a mobility day instead of even training, you know, leg press and half squats and the things that I did on the machines. But that's an example of kind of de-loading the body even though on the program, it would have called for me to be doing front squats. Yeah.

That's, yeah, I kind of look at it and maybe this is more of my functional background is an opportunity to add in more, you know, planes of motion and bodyweight type movements. I know for me, if I'm too fixated within the sagittal plane and doing bilateral movements consistently, which I do, I tend to really gravitate towards that because I like strength training. I like the powerlifting style,

simplicity of training, and then I could get into three, four months consistently training that way. I need to break up and get back to more planes of movement, more connectivity. Like even if I'm adding mobility in between, like I could definitely use like a week, two weeks of body weight style training and lateral style training.

Yeah, I would say, so here's the thing, the problem is a lot of people don't have the same intuition with their body as, you know, other experienced lifters. Like I can, I know how to de-load myself when I need it. And that's how I do it now. But for a lot of people, they just don't know. You know, what do you mean by that? How do I know I'm doing too much? How do I know I'm doing too much?

How do I know I'm doing too little? Like what's the deal? So what I used to recommend to people was every eight to 12 weeks, take a week off. Now what are you doing that week? Does that mean you stay at home and don't do anything? No. That week your goal is to be active.

That's it. So the week off is week off from the gym, but during that week, just try to be active. Go for a hike. Go for a hike. Yeah, hike a mountain, work on mobility. That's it, stretch, work on mobility, do body weight movements.

Just kind of easier, but stay active. So what you're looking at is about six, four to six de-load weeks a year is what you're looking at. And if you schedule them that way, you may find that because they're scheduled and because you'll do them because they're scheduled, your body will progress better. Because one of the biggest mistakes or problems

I think a lot of people make when they train is that there's two mistakes. You know, one, they have shitty workout programming and two, is they just go too hard too often and that causes their body to stop progressing. So again, from my experience, I'd say every eight to 12 weeks. I think that's an incredible recommendation. I think if you're hitting four D-load weeks a year, basically every quarter,

you're breaking up a week of just nothing but swimming, rowing, hiking, mobility type work. You typically will come back stronger. Yeah, no, you will. Especially if you do a good job with that. If you do a good job of, because sometimes you tell you give somebody a week off and they use that as excuse to not train. And they eat shitty, they're lazy,

that's not gonna benefit you a lot. But if you actually make that, make it a goal of yours to go out and do other physical things that maybe you wouldn't be doing, I think that's an incredible. I used to, it reminds me, so every year in July, we used to, when we were in our 20s and stuff, go to this, we used to go wakeboarding for a week, you know, 10 days actually. And I was always in the middle of training and I was a trainer during these times, but I always came back feeling

amazing because I still was doing something very physical. I mean, you get it, anybody who's wakeboarded for hours and hours on the lake in a day and swimming around on the lake on the, like, I'd be exhausted, you know, we would definitely, and I'd get, and I wouldn't put on, I'd be eating whatever, because we'd be camping and stuff like that, and I wouldn't put on any body fat, and then I'd come back feeling stronger

than when I did when I left. That's the key, you should come back from a D-Load week feeling good, fresh, and stronger. You should feel a little bit stronger. Yeah, you should not come back from a de-load week feeling good, fresh, and stronger. You should feel a little bit stronger. Yeah, you should not come back from a de-load week like, oh man, I haven't done anything. This is hurting. I can't move right. Treat a de-load week the right way and you'll accelerate your progress.

Not decelerate it. Next question is from Fiddy Lil Fang. Our sore or painful hip flexors a sign of a mobility lapse or of overuse? What exercises would you recommend to ameliorate? Okay, so sore as in muscle soreness, that's probably overuse. Pain is probably a mobility issue.

Now both of them can also be from mobility in the sense that if your mobility is poor and your hip flexors are working in ways that are not as efficient, then you may be getting more sore than you need to be. But yeah, this oftentimes, if you have a chronic pain that keeps popping up, I would look to mobility as one of the first things always. Well, what do you guys say when you when I think of the most common things when I had somebody because this is actually really common because they're their hip flexors are because they're taking over a lot of movements where the glutes or the abs should be helping and they're not because the hip flexors are so dominant. This kind of goes back to the app conversation

that we are just having. So the most common reason for this that I have seen is somebody that has an excessive anterior pelvic tilt. And- That's where your butt sticks out. Right, yeah, right. So if you can imagine kind of with the, your butt sticking out and it doesn't even have to be excessive,

it's just enough, enough to where the hip flexors now are dominant. And then you go and you squat and you lunge and you do all these other exercises that the glutes should be helping out, but they're not because you're kind of tilted forward and they're taking a... We did, I did a YouTube video. It's one of the ones that have the most views. I don't remember the name of it, although maybe Jackie can reference it in there where I talk about the weight being over on your hip flexors because of an anterior pelvic tilt and learning to get the glutes engaged and fix that.

So that seemed to be the most common thing for me. It would be somebody who has an excessive anterior pelvic tilt. They're still going through a normal program like MAP Santa Ballack, but they're not addressing the imbalance that they have and all that's happening. They're reinforcing it. And they're also seeded a majority of the day

and all these reinforce in that shortened position. You know, there's a lot of contributing factors to that. Like I've noticed, even just like changing your patterns where it's like this, just that position, frequency throughout your day all the time and then you go do a heavy squat, you do some ab specific exercises but you're reinforcing your hip flexor like taking over that exercise. It's a compilation of all these things. Yeah, if your hip flexor's, you when you do exercises like squats,

I would go and do all split stance exercises for a while because the front leg in a split stance exercise, like a lunge, is just like a squat. It's very similar to a squat. But the back leg, because it's kicking back, is forcing that hip flexor to kind of be more in a elongated position, a little bit of a stretch. And so you're getting more balanced. So I recommend split stance exercises for people with these

kind of issues. Here's the other thing. Strengthen your core. Now you may be thinking, I do lots of core exercises. Okay. Let me be a little more specific. Strengthen your core and develop different recruitment patterns. Get it so that your abs do more work when you do something like a plank or other core exercises and your hip flexors do less. And then when you go to brace and stabilize your core, you might not be as dependent on your hip flexors to do everything for you. So we have another video where I demonstrated a plank and I'm teaching people how to get into what's called a posterior pelvic tilt

to get the hip flexors to be less active and get the abs to be more active in a plank. That's a great exercise for people with hip flexor issues. I also, there's another video with hip flexor deactivated. I was going to say we've done several really good YouTube videos. Because this is actually really common. I mean, I remember when we were doing all these videos back when we were on the YouTube channel, you know, the first videos that we tried to address were the things that we saw the most. And hip flexor dominance is extremely common.

I mean, it's really, really common. And more often than not, and it's not saying that it can't be a mobility thing, more often than not, it's just that it's more of a posture thing. You probably have an anterior pelvic tilt because it's common. That's lower cross syndrome, right? I mean, it's extremely common. I have it.

A lot of people have it. A lot of people have it excessively. And then if you go and you don't address it and then you still train and you do all the basic exercise that it does, you can't help but just reinforce that like Justin was saying. So there's a couple great really YouTube videos that we've done that help somebody in this area.

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