Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1093: How Building Strength Improves Aesthetics, Lifting Cues that Work, the Meaning of Stay Authentic & MORE

Episode Date: August 9, 2019

In this episode of Quah, sponsored by MAPS Fitness Products (www.mapsfitnessproducts.com), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about the best lifting cues to help clients (or self) use proper form, how to convince someone to build strength rather than prioritizing aesthetics, the changes experienced when becoming a dad and what Stay Authentic means to the Mind Pump team. Mind Pump Recommends the Jordan Harbinger Show with Moby. (5:38) Mind Pump reminiscences on video games of the past. (8:18) Why we must make being a great dad ‘cool’ again. (12:33) Statistics of millionaires in the United States: How our perceptions are usually off from reality. (25:10) How cordyceps improve endurance performance. (33:22) Vuori just dropped their Fall Collection! (35:06) How Sal could have bumped into Britney Spears + our obsession with celebrity. (36:03) Mind Pump Recommends “The Boys” on Amazon Prime Video. (41:19) Updates on Bill & Ted 3. (43:12) Why when you say something ‘unpopular’ it is better to double down and not retract. (44:25) The tide is already starting to change...22 percent of millennials say they have “no friends.” (45:34) #Quah question #1 – What have been some of the best cues you have found to work for the majority of your clients? (52:51) #Quah question #2 – What would the conversation look like for you guys if you were trying to convince a female client (with a decent amount of training experience) to focus on building strength through the squat, deadlift and bench press with a side effect of improving aesthetics rather than focusing way too much on looks? (1:05:30) #Quah question #3 – Justin and Sal, what are the biggest developments you saw as a person when you became a dad? Did you feel Adam was missing some of the characteristics you developed as a parent? Adam, after Maximus’ birth did you notice any immediate changes in yourself? (1:16:05) #Quah question #4 – What does ‘Stay Authentic’ mean to each of you? (1:33:28) People Mentioned Jordan Harbinger (@jordanharbinger)  Instagram Shanna Mota (@lilmota)  Instagram   Related Links/Products Mentioned August Promotion: MAPS Prime/Prime Pro ½ off!! **Code “PRIME50” at checkout** The Jordan Harbinger Show 196: Moby | What to Do When Success Makes You Miserable U.S. Has Record Number of Millionaires Rich Dad Poor Dad - Book by Robert Kiyosaki and Sharon Lechter Randomized double-blind placebo-controlled clinical trial and assessment of fermentation product of Cordyceps sinensis (Cs-4) in enhancing aerobic capacity and respiratory function of the healthy elderly volunteers Visit Four Sigmatic for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code “mindpump” at checkout** Visit Vuori Clothing for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! BONUS: Joe Kudla of Vuori Clothing- Lulu who? Watch The Boys Season 1 | Prime Video - Amazon.com Keanu Reeves is unrecognisable in new Bill & Ted 3 photo Mario Lopez Apologizes for 'Ignorant and Insensitive' Comments About Parenting Transgender Kids 22 percent of millennials say they have “no friends” Mind Pump TV - YouTube Why Your Butt Won't Grow: 3 Exercises to Wake Up Your Sleepy Butt – Mind Pump TV How to do a PROPER Plank – Mind Pump TV Mind Pump Free Resources  

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this extra awesome episode of Mind Pump, extra. So the back half of this episode, we talk about fitness and personal training and the first 46 minutes is our introductory current events talking about our lives conversation.

Here's what we talked about in the first 46 minutes. We start out by talking about video games. We love video games, but what about their impact on kids and do they cause more anxiety? Do we need to start regulating how much video games we play? We talked about making being a dad cool again. I think we need to start regulating how much video games we play? We talked about making being a dad cool again. I think we need to start a trend, or being a good dad means you're an awesome dude,

and everybody thinks you're super cool. Let's get more dads out there. Yeah. We talked about millionaire statistics. I know a lot of people listening think becoming a millionaire is almost impossible, very difficult. But you would be surprised at just how achievable it is, just to wait to listen to the statistics that I read off in that part of this episode.

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Then we talked about Disney Disneyland and Brittany Spears. Apparently she showed up the day after I left. Sorry, Brittany, you just missed me. Oh, one more time. Then I talked about the show on Amazon Prime called The Boys. I love it. I'm on episode four right now. We talked about the new Bill and Ted coming out.

That's Bill and Ted three. That's gonna be awesome. Adam brought up the Mario Lopez controversy. We touched on that for a second. Briefly. And then we talked about the statistic that apparently polls show that 22% of millennials have no friends.

Wow, that's sad. Maybe you need to stop being so annoying. Yeah, how about you get off your phone? Then we get to the fitness portion of this episode. First question, what are some of the best cues we have found to work for the majority of the clients that we trained? So cues are when you tell a person

to like pull your shoulders down or pretend like there's a pencil between your shoulder blades when you're doing a row, stuff like that, like what are cues that you can use on your clients? And if you're not a trainer, these cues can help you train yourself. So we talk all about that.

The next question, this person wants to know how we talk about convincing somebody to focus on performance and strength instead of just their looks. And why that's important. Why is it important to focus on performance over looks for some people? The next question, this person wants to know

what our biggest developments are or that we saw in ourselves, when we became fathers, Adam also chimes in, now he's a dad, so he's experiencing what that's all about, so we have some good dad talk and raising kids talk in that part of the set. Dad life. And the final question, this person wants to know what staying authentic means to all of us, it's becoming like a buzz term now on social media authenticity. But what does that really mean?

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a lot of well-known personalities and look, if you're not interested necessarily in hardcore science or dynamics or something like that, one that did really well recently was 196 and that was Moby. Moby, the iconic musician. And at first I was like, okay, Moby, what's this guy gonna teach me?

He, this guy has struggled a lot, man. He was a serious drug addict, alcoholic, and this is before, you know, he got famous, and that only made it worse. And he was talking about chasing fame, what elements really make people happy, and how your success can actually make you really miserable. And look, I've got a lot of episodes that we've recommended before from antibiotic resistance transibacteria that could kill all of us to photographers that have gotten kidnapped in Syria, but Moby was a good personality profile of somebody

who has been through the ringer and has now like actually didn't need any of that. I think a lot of guys like you and I probably included were thinking like, oh, if I only had this, if I only had that, that's a guy who had all that and then was like, nope, that's not the good stuff that's making me happy. It was really interesting.

And today in modern times, this is something that I think people need to hear. It's like, it just because you have everything doesn't mean you're gonna be happy. Did he surprise you? Did you expect that at all? No, and also I thought, oh, he must have a good ghost writer because it's a really well written book, his latest book.

And I asked him, did you write this? And he said, yeah, my, his grandfather is Herman Melville, who wrote Mobey Dick. And that's why his nickname is Mobey. No! Yeah. That's weird. So he's like, I had to write my own book. I couldn't hire it out. How awkward are that piece? And he's just a really smart guy. People think he's just a musician. He's actually really, really smart. I think he has a PhD in philosophy or something.

Wow, that's very interesting. But your podcast is phenomenal. It's one of the other, the only few podcasts that I listen to on a regular basis. For one, I like to hear how are you interview people to make me better? But then the guests you have are just, I don't know how you get a whole of them

or whatever, probably because you're so big. But they're phenomenal. Your episodes are great. So if you're gonna listen to another podcast, you need to check out the Jordan Harbinger podcast. You can find it on all platforms, including iTunes and Spotify. Make sure you go check them out.

I had the original Atari, what was that? Atari 2100 or whatever? What was it? 1900? Yeah. Do you guys remember? It came with 1600. No, I don't Floppy disk, it came with 1600. No, I don't have a floppy disk.

That was before that. Yeah, before that. It had 2600. 2600, thank you. It came with joysticks, right? So you had a joy stick, which a lot of kids don't even know what the hell that is. It's literally a stick.

It's a joyful. And there was one button, so there's one button in a stick. Now there's 85 buttons. I know. And then they also came with this little controller that had a button on the side and a rotating thing. Do you remember that? As for pong and for, yeah, it's for pong

and what was the other game that you would play that with? Pitfall, maybe? No. Pitfall you used the joystick. Pong for sure though. Yeah. But it wasn't a ball. It was like a rotating, centipede, maybe that came.

It was a ball. No, it didn't have a ball at first. At first it was just like a thing that you held like this. It was like a knob that you turned and you just turned. Oh, you're right. Remember that? Yeah, I know you're right. It was like a knob.

I remember that, dude. That was the shit. My favorite was Indiana Jones. It was like terrible. It's so funny because it's just stick figures. It was terrible. What was the one with the tanks? Oh yeah, that was another good one. That was a great game. I think it was just stick figures. You know what's terrible. What was the one with the tanks? Oh yeah, that was another good one.

That was a great game. I think it was just called tanks. Yeah, for sure. You're like, I'm in, I'm by this. But, damn, it's all you needed was like, yeah, one theme. You know, keep it simple. And you'd have to fight other tanks, but really all it was was if you looked at the screen,

it was like a shape. No, it was two tanks. And it was you'd bounce the bullet off the wall. Yes, yes. And you try and kill the other one. That was a good game, dude. That was a good, you know what's funny now? That was fun, yeah.

I tried to play. So Jessica's nephew, Niesa Nephew came to visit. And they're all into video games, like all kids are now. My son, of course. Oh, yeah, there it is. 1974 Atari Tank tank arcade thanks Doug for bringing that back I was so this is older than I am then this is 19 says so this game came out way before I was born yeah wow yeah it's got all these objects in between the bounce yeah so

anyway I remember so the he he comes over to stay at our house her her nephew and he and he brings He comes over to stay at our house, her nephew, and he brings his Xbox 360 or whatever. And so my son and him are playing, what's that game all the kids are playing now? Damn it, where they do the funny dance moves and they learn it from the game. Right. You know what I'm talking about?

Why not? I know that dance. No, it's dance, dance, Fortnite. So they're playing Fortnite, and so I'm like, let me try, right? And I'm not a bad gamer, totally. I played video games, see I just stopped by the time I was like 19.

I just didn't play anymore. I was working and cared about other things. So Nintendo. Bro, it's as far as you made it. Yeah, but there's like, there's like 85 different buttons and then the combinations of the buttons are, I'm like, how do you even remember? This takes, you have to do this from birth

because I'm trying to do it and he's like, oh, you're pushing down on this one. Oh, do this one combination with that one. Turn this way when you push that otherwise it doesn't work. And I'm watching them play, I'm getting dizzy. I'm getting dizzy from the screen. Get a push Z button, dude. Yeah, there's the fucking Z button.

I had at most AMB, that was it. Most. And no, and then when check out real complicated, you push AMB together. That was the one. I remember. You smash everything at once. That was like the move is. Most yeah, and no, and then when she got real complicated you push a and B together Smash everything at once You were the front that we got we got mad at you're such a button pushers. Yeah, yeah Smash smash oh no, no, no, I mean I'm good. I'm good at a couple games Street Fighter That one's that one's one out. That's definitely a button smashing type of game. Oh, well

No, if you got to know the convos dude, I see you got I think I hold I think I hold the record in the room here for the NBA game. I think Justin's got the off-road Get a street fighter. Yeah, I guess we gotta get street fighter. Yeah, you gotta get street fighter forming. You can win something All of all pit you need a win. You can pick my character I'll be you with wow A dash long. I'll be with dash long. No, you with us lit. Duh. Duh. Duh. Duh, Duh, Duh, Duh, Duh, Duh, Duh, Duh, Duh, Duh, Duh, Duh, Duh, Duh, Duh, Duh, Duh, Duh, Duh, Duh, Duh, Duh, Duh, Duh, Duh, Duh, Duh, Duh, Duh, Duh,

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Like, you just start paying people off here. You just like, come off here. This way man, it's a tough gig. It is. Well, you know, I, what I'm having a hard time with right now is with the first couple of weeks when I was just with her, like I didn't, I went all night, all night long.

I was up with her with the baby and it was no big deal because I wasn't really coming in here. But now I'm back to coming into the studio more regularly and spending more time here, which is requiring me to get up earlier and be on time to work. And so, you know, she, I think she just got used to that. She got used to my, all my help throughout the entire night where now I'm like, looking at her like, huh, I can't, I can't get up at two and four

and six with you with the baby because I gotta get some sort of sleep before I go into work. Yeah, because she's still out of work. Yeah, she's still, yeah, she's still. You have to, the way I look at it is, it's like when you run a company, you have your players and everybody does their role

and that's how the company is successful and people help each other, but you have to, because what's hard about kids isn't, the kids part is hard, but what makes it really hard is life, because then you still have to go to work. Yeah. Then they have school, they have activities, you have other family stuff, you want to spend time with your partner, you want to spend time with your friends.

That's what makes it really hard. Well, I think the greatest challenge right now is of being a dad or what I'm going through right now is just that he feeds every hour and a half to two hours. I mean, that's crazy. That's how you use to when you're competing. Yeah. Yeah. Well, every hour and a half to two hours, he is eating.

And so, and that doesn't stop through the night. It's not like he eats every hour to two hours through the day, and then he sleeps all night for you. How do you wake him up at night to speed, or do you wake up? Oh, he wakes up. Like clockwork. Oh, yeah, like clockwork.

Every once in a while, he'll give us like a three hour, or a two and a half hour, a three hour nap, but then he's really hungry. And you could tell, like that's when he wakes up. He'll wake up crying if it goes to three hours. Otherwise, he wakes up kind of nice around two hours, and you can kind of see him moving around, and then if she gets him right on the boob, then he's good, and then he goes right back to sleep again.

But man, it's, I mean, that, just the breaking and the sleep up every two hours, that's the most challenging part for sure. It's really great to see you in this role. I knew you would, I mean, we all knew you'd be a phenomenal father and Katrina would be an amazing mom. You know, I did that post on my Instagram

where I posted a picture of me with, you know, walking with my kids or whatever. And I got all these great responses and I realized that, you know, it's funny. or whatever. And I got all these great responses. And I realized that, you know, it's funny. We don't, dads don't have to do a lot to get a lot of accolades. I think we just not expected to do a lot. You know what I mean?

Like, it wasn't that long ago where if dad showed up to a couple of your ball games and went to work and came home at night, he was considered like an awesome dad. Super dad. Yeah, and it's, I think what we need, I think what's important, what we need to do is start making being a dad like a very cool masculine thing.

Like it's the most, it's the best thing you can do. In my opinion, one of the best things you could do as a man is being a great father. I think we need to have that societal pressure again because there's so many dads out there that just don't even involve, man, it's crazy to me. Do you guys remember, I mean, man, it's crazy to me. Do you guys remember, I mean, I know it's been quite a while for both of you to go back

all the way to like where I'm at right now. Do you remember things that like, it's vivid, don't worry. So do you guys remember things that like you really wanted to instill in your kids and like stuff that you started doing right away, like early on like, okay, I want him to like this or be into this or I want this to be like, do you remember stuff like that? Or did you guys do sports and star wars with my first two? Right.

So did you like make him sit down and watch? Like, was it all on him? Yeah, I was like, wait, wait, it was like, then I'm gonna get it right. Yeah, when he was like two, like, my first son, like, he was, we were just watching TV and I saw that Star Wars and like Courtney wasn't there and so I was like, no, we're watching this. And it's like way, they make cases for violence or whatever. I'm like, dude, it's lasers. Like, come on.

It's not that big a deal. And then I remember getting a bunch of flak from my mom and from Courtney first showing him too young, but dude, it worked. He was super into it and super into Legos. Like that was another one. Legos and Star Wars for me, because that was like half my child had grown up. Like I loved that, you know, those two franchises.

My son was super into Thomas the Train. You guys know Thomas the Train? Yeah. Okay, so he was super into that. And so every day, I was just so excited, you know, to be a father, every day I would come home with a new, I'm almost every day, I was just so excited, you know, to be a father. Every day, I would come home with a new, almost every day with a new train. I went a little overboard. He had like 200 something.

I mean, basically all the characters, but he was so good at knowing their names and just turning them and he would play with them all day, that I thought it was a good thing. There were these two trains that were identical twins, and if you look underneath the train, this is before he could read, so he's like, this is like right after he started talking, so he's like two and a half, underneath the train is the name of the train.

But these two trains looked identical, and I tell him, I'd say, hey, I tell my son, I'd say, hey, go get me, I don't remember the name of it, so I'll make one up. Yeah, go get me Percy or Sam or whatever. And he'd come back and get it, and I'd look at the bottom, and it was the right one. Then I'd mix them up, and I'd say, okay, which one is Sam?

And he'd pick the right one. I took me, it took me a year and a half to figure out how he was doing it. I thought it was so weird. I was like, how does he know? I was looking to see if there was like a scratch on one of them or something, they were exactly the same. And then finally, at the time, my wife pointed it out,

she goes, I think I figured it out. If you look closely at their faces, one of them, the eyebrows are straight across and the one they're slightly tilted up. That's how he knew. He was like, two and a half dude. She's just a little, and he knew which one was which dude.

It was so crazy. Well, I think, yeah, images and pattern recognition and all that, it's huge. That's why I thought my oldest, like, he could read, like in a really young, but he wasn't reading. He was just seeing images and was like, milk. You know, you would like drive by and it just said milk and it was like one picture of a guy drinking milk.

I'm like, oh my, you're so brilliant. You know, I'm so I got a genius. You know, like stuff like that was happening all over the place. There was this book that we reached to read my daughter that she memorized. So one day she started reading it to me and I'm like, is my daughter reading? Like, oh my god, she's a genius. And then I was like, I flipped and I flipped the pages and I just point to it word. Like, what's that say?

And she like, say all the words. So speaking of reading, this is a market that I didn't even know existed in children's books because I've got a ton of them now. That's been some of my favorite gifts I've received or all these different books. I've shana from Organifi sent over a book that just I died laughing.

I didn't know this, and I don't know if this was around when you guys were buying books for your kids, is there's a market for totally obscene fucking books for children. What do you mean? Are they for children? Are they funny, like pretending to be for children? Well, yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Like I got a book that says, like, go to fuck to sleep. And like every page is like, it's like a cute book that says, go the fuck to sleep. Oh, and like every page is like, it's like real like a cute rhyme and then it's go to fuck to sleep. Go the fuck to sleep. And then they go, cute little rhyme, go the fuck to sleep. Like that's the whole book.

Shana sent me one. That's hilarious. That was, don't be a cock block. And so the whole thing is, again, it's real cute, you know, the whole story. And then at the end, it's like, you know, don't be a cock block.

That's funny. I feel like I read some,, well, when they're like infants, right? Because they don't get it yet. Right. So it's like, you read something like that and it's just funny for the parents to kind of chuckle. Yes. I didn't even know that I didn't even know that was a thing. That's hilarious. Yeah, I got like three or four. But those are the two I remember with my head, but I got like three or four people. I guess because I swear and so people know that. So they probably thought it'd be funny, and it is funny, I think it's great. But I'm like, I can't read this too much.

Yeah, that's funny. That reminds me, you're mentioning like things that you're trying to influence, like music was another big one. So they have like those, rock-a-bye baby thing, like these different like albums that they turn into like wind chimes, and like, you know, like white noise

from your favorite bands. So there was like wind chimes and like, you know, like white noise from your favorite bands. So there was like Metallica, ACDC, there was like something else that I got, but I had like an ACDC, he loved not Hell's Bells, but it was a thunderstruck. It's so, it was just like, he would start, he was like one year old and he's like, ah, I need like walk downstairs.

I'm coming in. I thought I was a funny shit. That's hilarious. Yeah, I find myself, dude, that's what, so the two things I notice right now, because obviously it does not matter. He's, you can't even fucking see past 12 inches at this age, right? So he's, but I still got like basketballs always on the TV. Like I'm playing sports on the TV.

Oh, yeah. For sure. I don't mix it. I know Like I'm playing sports on the TV. Try to brainwash. Oh yeah, for sure. I have mixed it up. I know, I even for sure trying to brainwash it. You might do the opposite. Like you might rebel. Maybe, you know, you back off of it, like, you know, later, but right now, do you have that cram on with it? That's what I do.

That's my strategy. I even, I even rotate the music. So he's already got like plenty of rock, hip hop, pop, like country. I want him to be like, I want him to be diverse in his music and have rhythm. So I'm making him listen to all this different music and shit. Well, I think the biggest thing if you look at the studies on raising kids, the most important thing is spending quality time with them.

And so when you look at studies where parents, like, oh, kids who get who read a lot or kids who listened a lot of music and really what it narrows down is the fact that the parent is spending the time with the kid. So a lot of it is just the fact that you're taking the time to do this and you're doing it with him. That's what makes like the biggest, biggest difference. Well, yeah, there's, you know, it's, I didn't realize how many different camps there were in, you know, like the sleep method and how it when he cries, what you should or should it do. And it's pretty interesting to me. I mean, and people can be really like, this is the way they sell books.

So they're going to want you to be there. They want to be just divisive on some level. It's like, this is the method that you have to use, you know? And it's like, yeah, they're gonna be real, like protective. I think a lot of it too has, there's a lot of it that's kind of instinctual, I think, I mean, totally. You know, I, again, I go back to that talk that I heard a while ago where they were covering statistics of, you know, good outcomes for kids.

And the best outcomes were the high discipline, high love households. So these were households that had a lot of structure, and there were rules, clear rules, that you know, things that you don't do, but there was also a lot of love, where there's lots of affection, the kids know that they're loved,

you combine those two, that's where you get the best. And you're paying attention to what they're doing. Yeah, and that's pretty much it. That's pretty much the basis of all these methods. I've already seen things that have paid off even from work that we did in the third trimester. So, you know, I think that third trimester is when he can really start to hear, right?

You can hear everything that's happening out there, outside, and I was reading to him. So I was reading and talking to him while he was in Katrina's belly. And now, like, when he starts to cry, if I pick him up, and I like talk to him like in vibration through his stomach, like he just, completely settles down.

And it's like, dude, that's, cause you're gonna think it's gotta be muffled if he's inside of a womb, like you gotta think it's gonna be, it's not gonna be clear like me talking to him, so that kind of muffling humming sound of my voice completely sews him. And I have to think that has something to do

with the time and effort that I put into. Maybe, right. Has to be. Right, I just feel, how would he know that right away just to be soothed by my sound in my voice? And I feel like it's unique to me because I don't think that Katrina has the same ability

with him. When I see her try and settle him down, it's not the same it's unique to me because I don't I don't think that Katrina has the same ability with him When I see her try and settle him down It's not the same as when I sue them and settle them down with talking to him and his voice So yeah, there's things like that that I'm already picking up and noticing that like you know That was something that I remember reading somewhere that you should do during the time and now I see it paying off with him Getting to these times where he's getting fussy and I can go over and I can just kind of talk to him and It completely settles him down. That's cool. That's cool. Dude, I changed subjects. I was reading some statistics on millionaires yesterday That blew me away. Okay. Really, really blew me the fuck away. So the first one and this one you might have heard before

This one wasn't super mind blowing, but I think it's a pretty cool one to illustrate, or at least to talk about, is that 80% of the current millionaires in America today. So the vast majority of them, eight out of 10, are first-time millionaires. So that runs counter to the idea that old money. Millionaires or millionaires, yeah, because mom and dad gave them a lot of money

or because they inherited a lot of money or because of the money. That's what this world wide is. This is just a, this is statistics for America. America. So in America, I would have never guessed that.

Neither would I. Totally. But most. 80%. Most millionaires are first time millionaires. Most millionaires. Our self made. And that's good news. It is. That's very good news for people who

Are trying to become successful. It's good to know that most millionaires are first-timers. They didn't inherit it No, here's some more good news. This one's a very cool one There are more so for people listening right now because this is a fitness podcast This is gonna blow your mind especially our minds Did you know that there's more millionaires in America than there are people with six pack abs? That's a random fact. But hey, I've had it six packs several times before. You know what?

You know what I'm saying? I've never been a millionaire. Yeah. And when you do see it, I mean, there isn't a lot of people that like maintain that either. So well, so 9% and this was an article, it's about four years old, 9% of the 118 million households in the US are millionaires. So, if you're the head of a household, your odds of billion millionaire are one in ten. The number of Americans with six pack abs is estimated to be one out of every 25,000. Whoa! Yeah. Wow.

So, you are far more likely to be a millionaire than you are to be shredded. Wow. That's crazy. Well, now think about it this way. Yeah, that's more appealing to me anyway. How many, so we were trainers in Silicon Valley and at one point, you know, towards the end,

we all became well-known trainers. So a lot of our clients were millionaires. Most of my clients, if not all of them, were very successful at one point. And they were all struggling with trying to get lean and look fit or whatever, but they all yet were became very successful. So it just goes and show you that that kind of success, you know, it's extremely achievable. I think we think it's more achievable. Well, it also highlights too that that type of success also tends to have a lot of sacrifice in other places too.

I used to always say this when even being as a personal trainer, you could always tell how deep my pockets were based off of my physique. Like when I'm when I was in, and this is not true anymore, this was early on in my career. This used to be true. I've since then hacked that I feel, early on, if I was in great shape, all of my energy was put around training, you're living in the gym. Yeah, I was living the gym. And then when I was doing really well and very financially successful, a lot of my energy was put around making money. Now, it does sound a bit intuitive to say that. But I think that may be just your experience because statistically speaking, people who are successful money-wise, a greater percentage

of them exercise on a more regular basis and eat better. So people who tend to be financially successful, this is not true for everybody, there's a greater percentage of them that are actually lean and fit than people who are less successful. Yeah, but to your point about a six pack, what it takes to get six pack lean is a different level of discipline and sacrifice to eat healthy because you're a smart, if you're a smart, if you're a millionaire, okay?

There's, and there are exceptions to rules, so I know it's an overgeneralization, but for the most part, you're probably pretty smart, right? If you're a millionaire, if you made millions of dollars, you're pretty smart. Which you're probably savvy and smart enough to know that taking care of your body and health and making good food choices and exercise will benefit your success. But you're going to do the minimal amount to get the success that you care more about. You're not going

to go to the point where you're going to make sacrifices business-wise so you can be ripped and shredded So that's I still think that highlights. I don't know. I don't know. I'd be it's interesting because I know what the statistics are on On fitness and successful people tend to be much more consistent with fitness and good nutrition Now I don't know about the extremes right. We're talking about millionaires We're not talking about like the deep millionaires and we're also talking about six packs, which is the extreme. Six pack would be extreme version of health. That's single-digibody fat. Right, right.

So I think there's probably a lot of millionaires that, you know, rock a dad bod that have, you know, their good health and shape. They exercise two to three times a week. And they make good food choices and stuff like that. But they're grinding away at work because that's where a lot of their focus is allocating your resources.

I don't, you know, it's funny. I think we'd be surprised because this, reading these statistics made me realize that a lot of times our perceptions are off of what actual reality is. I would bet that, yes, for sure, you have the people who grind and work, you know, 80 hours a week, but I bet you that there's a decent percentage of millionaires who are millionaires,

not necessarily because they work tons and tons of hours, but because yes, they do work hard, they're also smart with how they work, and they know what to do with their money, because a lot of times, you know, what's that book, Rich Dad Poor Dad? I have family members like this. I have family members who just grind and bust their ass and have other family members who work hard, but then they didn't buy the expensive car, they saved their money, they invested it 15 years later

on paper because of their investments and because they were smart, they became millionaires. And I bet you the vast majority of millionaires in America, if you think about, if you think, if you see that there's one that have every 10 households could be a millionaire or of millionaires in America, if you think about, if you think, if you see that there's one that every 10 households could be a millionaire or a millionaires, that's what the statistics say. And if it's 80,

one in a 10, there's that many millionaires. But I think they're talking about total wealth. I don't think they're talking about million dollars a year in sound of the account. How can the assets in the account? Are you counting a house? I mean, fuck, if you own a house and if you own a house and fuck it, that'll say you're doing it. Sure, but still, the account, the assets. You're carrying a house. I mean, fuck, if you own a house, and if you own a house, then fuck it, that'll say you're doing it.

Sure, but still, but still, and if you count all that value, you are a millionaire. We're thinking you make a million dollars a year. That's gotta be a completely different statistic. Oh, yeah. Okay, that's what I'm assuming you're saying right now. No, that's gotta be something totally different. I mean, making a million dollars in salary a year,

you're, that's a whole other category. So I'm totally confused here. I was under the impression that that's a whole nother category. So I'm totally confused here. I was under the impression that that's what you meant by that. Okay, if you're somebody who makes a million year over year to have a million dollar, not to say that's not impressive, but to have a million dollars is an as impressive. If you do exactly what you said, if you've been the conservative person since you were 18,

you're totally plausible. Oh, for sure, totally. Yeah, that's good news too for people who are, you know, trying to bust their ass and become independently successful or whatever. Not so good if they want abs though. If they want to. It's our exclusive club, dude. Hey dude. That's what it says to me and like, you gotta like really be all in all the time for six packs. I had a client, I remember I had a client like this who was super successful guy. He was in his, I want to say 60s and I used to ask him like, what, you know, how, how, how do you, how did you become successful?

What do I do? And he goes, Sal, he goes, just follow the formula. And he told me in a like work hard investor money, don't spend what you don't have and that kind of stuff. And he says, and you'll be very successful. And I said, really, it's just like following, he goes, look, he goes, it's harder to get shredded than it is to become successful. I said no way and he goes, I'm here hiring you

and I'm the one who's got, you go trust me, it's much more difficult because you still have to follow the steps but your steps are every day all the time. My steps I'm a little bit more flexible and I remember him, me and him had this huge debate about it and I left totally not convinced. I'm like now he's gonna talk about getting a six pack wazer. But now that I think about it and look at this, I'm like I didn't even have this huge debate about it. And I left totally not convinced. I'm like, now you're just talking about getting a six pack wazer. But now that I think about it, look at this.

I'm like, I wonder if that's, imagine if you had dedicated as much time as you had put into building your physique and training and all that stuff into just simply, you know, I'm sure it would be a good thing. Of course, that's gonna be fruitful. Yeah, totally, right? Anyway, cool stuff.

One other study that I wanted to bring up to you guys was study on cordy steps that I read the other day. And you guys know what cordyceps are, right? Yeah. That's my favorite supplemental mushroom, my favorite source of course being our sponsor for Sigmatic. Well anyway, I read this study on VO2 max,

so stamina essentially, and which is what it's best for. So people who supplemented with cordi-ceps had an increase in their VO2 max by 7%, which was more than double the group that didn't take the cordi-ceps. After three weeks, it went up to 11%. So they found, and this is what I've always noticed with cortiseps is I, if I supplement with cortiseps, where I get the most benefit is with my long, kind of grueling workouts. I don't necessarily get more power from it,

I get more stamina from it. And that's what the study showed. And in this particular study, we had 30 participants in there. It was like twice as effective in terms of- If it gets too effective, you know, does that have the potential of being banned in this particular study, we had 30 participants in there. It was like twice as effective in terms of- If it gets too effective, you know, does that have the potential of being banned

from like these Olympic games? Funny you say that. They actually looked at potentially banning quarter-steps a while ago. When was the last Olympics that was one that was in China? Oh yeah, Beijing. Was it? Yeah, I remember what year it was.

The Chinese athletes were talking about using chorus section because they were performing so well, they did some, they were digging in to see if they should ban it. But that just goes to show you that it works. That's going to be bad. It's your view to use everything that performance enhancements. It's so hard to decide what's not what it is. You can make that argument. Right. No, you totally can't. I have something for you. Proper training. You remember when Joe from Viori came here and we interviewed him? Yeah.

It was a while back. Do you remember the jacket that he was wearing? Yeah. Bad ass, right? Yeah, the one that was kind of flannel-esque. Yeah. And he said it wasn't out yet. Yes, he said, yeah, remember that was telling me.

I was jock, yes. It just, Viori just dropped their fall collection and it was in it. So I'm all over that. What's their call? It's called the Atlas. I need it. Yeah, no, that's a dope jacket. Their whole fall collection and it was in it. So I'm all over that. What's their call? It's called the Atlas. I need it. Yeah, no, that's a dope jacket. Their whole fall collection is sick,

but I've been waiting for that. That was like probably six months ago. It's been a while since we had it. Oh, I wanted to take it and not let him leave with it. Yeah. Because we were like, fightin' over that, I remember. So I got Rachel on her right now. I'm just gonna see.

I had somebody actually walk up to me, recognize me, and he's like, oh, mine pump, whatever. He's like, I got Viorion, he had like the shirt and the pants. The kid that was just sitting here, listen, he was rocking the same pants, yeah. Same exact, yeah. No, no, everybody that gets him, it's like one of those, it's one of those brands

because it's a relatively new brand. I mean, they've been around for a while now, but it's like one of those things that once you wear it, you fall in love with it. Oh, dude, I forgot to tell you. I almost, almost, this close, ran into your favorite crush of all time, celebrity crush of all time.

What? Yeah. Britney Spears. So you guys know I was in Disneyland, right? Saturday. Sunday, she was at fucking Disneyland. Britney Spears. With her kids.

What? Yes. It was all over the news. She was at Disneyland. Apparently she was in the news because she's Britney Spears But also because some of the pictures she took she didn't look super great something look a little off about her But I just missed it. I'll take her with a shaved head Dude how crazy would that be to run into Britney Spears?

You know, she has a schoolgirl off it somewhere How old is she now? We're close we're close and age. We're mid 30s. Yeah, we're a little late Because when yeah, she's no she she we're older. She's oh really? Yeah, she's younger. She's younger by about Two to three years. I would guess so I I'm guessing 34, 35. Adam knows all the him from me. Yeah, he's good. I mean, her birthday is December 4th. Britain, Appedia.

Is it really? Look it up. Her birthday is December 4th. Are you serious? See if I'm right. Are you that still? I don't know, maybe. Are you that still?

I don't know, maybe we'll see. I'm gonna look her up. Look it up. She's 37 years old. She's 37. December 2nd. Oh, see guys, close. See?

What's the name of her parents? I don't know. Wow. I've never, you know, as I, you know, I, you know, I openly talk about as a kid. I had like a crush on her and some of that. But I definitely have never been. I never, I'd never geek out on the fan the celebrity thing. It just never, I know. It never really, I didn't understand it. I never followed like people magazine and ETV and like all into like it's way out of crap. Yeah, it really is. And I don't know if, I'm trying to remember like, what gave me that attitude if I had like a bad experience

with somebody who was famous, but I don't think I did. Yeah. I think I just put it together really early on that people sometimes that we hold in this high regard that they're just fucking human and in fact they have as many flaws or more flaws than I have. Dude I had that with professional sports when I would go to games and stuff in my brother and I we get special access my we used to be friends with Jim Luffyver who in his family and I used to babysit his kids and stuff and so he'd let us like sit where the players live, wife sat and like we'd go, you know,

and the dugout and stuff and meet the player. It was rad, like it was like amazing. That was when the bash brothers were a thing and all that. And we got, but it's just like, yeah, they're just dudes that the tuck shit. And like some of them are assholes and, you know, it's a lot of them are. Yeah, especially with athletes,

because athletes are there because they're fucking great at their sport. They're not, they're gonna give a shit that you're there. Right. Yeah, they're not like they're not about personality or being great socially. Like they're just fucking there because they play a sport. No, I'm the same way the only time I ever, you know, fanned out a little bit was the first time I met Arnold. But that's mainly because so obviously growing up watching our little Swarchon-Ager movies, wanting to build muscle, reading his books. Oh my god, you know, most winningest Mr. Olympia.

But then what really sold me was learning his success story. So then as I learn more about him, I learn, oh, he came to this country, didn't speak the language well, became very independently wealthy before he became an actor, decided he wanted to become one of the highest paid actors of all time. Everybody made up, tried to make him change his name because his name is crazy. You'll never make it because you're accent. Yeah, he does make it, becomes the highest paid actor. Oh, you defied all the odds.

Never changes his name. Then he says, I'm going to be, I'm going to achieve one of the highest levels of political office I can, not being a citizen. And he does, he becomes a governor of California as a Republican, which is crazy. So, that's why I geeked out on when I met him. I'm like, man, here's a guy that just basically embodies the American dream. He's an immigrant, independently successful, was a movie star, became the top politician or whatever, married a candidate.

I was like, this guy, like, he does stuff. He literally does everything he says he's gonna do. I think it also has something to do with the way I grew up, not having a lot and having someone like that, they seemed so far away from me, that it didn't seem obtainable, didn't seem like it would be anything I was interested in. So I actually, I used to love meeting people

that were fucking normal people, but we're like, like, Uber successful. Like if I just met some random dad of a friend of a family member or something like that that I knew was like, yeah, a Ferrari or you had like a, like, I was so intrigued with that guy. That's like Batman. Yeah. There's a Superman. Fuck Superman. I'm just telling you. He was the was the achievable like he just you know he bought all his shit, you know He learned some you know crazy like Taekwondo in the mountains of somewhere he came back He'd be the shit ass. It's far less believable that a normal guy will never get killed and doesn't use guns and fucks Everyone up his body armor. He's got like special like supermen. Jets and he's got a butler.

You know what I'm saying? Like that's real. I have the idea. I have lasers coming out of my eyes and I read your thoughts. Get the fuck out. You know you just reminded me of? You guys have to, you guys have to watch this series

on Amazon Prime called The Boys. Yeah. Fucking awesome. Have you seen, you saw that? I saw like part of it first But I loved it because it was like it made the the heroes look like like dude so basically superheroes exist in this in this show and They're you know they they fight crime and stuff but they're owned by this corporation and they make lots of money

They're through merchandise and stuff, but they're like no they're like real celebrities in the sense that like How do celebrities act when no one's looking, how do they party, what do they do? They're all like fucking real sleaze bags, but in the public eye, they're like, hey, I say, so basically the first episode, I'm gonna give away the first episode, but it's fucking awesome. Sounds very Deadpool-esque.

But it's really good and complex, so far only seen two episodes. In the first episode, what happens is what this one guy's outside is talking to his girlfriend. You can tell they're a lot of whatever. And then all of a sudden, as he's talking to his girlfriend, she's like, do you want to move in with me? He's like, yeah, she fucking evaporates.

Just blood splatters everywhere. She evaporates and just turns into blood and mush. And he's like, oh my. And then I'm just holding her hands. Yeah, her arm, the rest are blind. And he's like, what's the fuck happened? And then it's a superhero who was just running hell of fast. It's like, oh my, and then I'm just holding her hands. Yeah, her arm, the rest of her body. And he's like, what's the fuck happened? And then it's a superhero who was just running hell of fast.

It's like, it's like the flash. He's like, I'm sorry, man, I gotta go. Oh my, oh my, oh my, oh my, oh my, oh my, like a crack head flash just ran through her. Yeah, and then, but then in the, in the press and stuff, he's like, oh, you know, I'm sorry, she walked out into the middle of the street. He's like, we were on the sidewalk.

She went, so you get to see like how they're painted. Oh, bro, it's so fucking cool. I'm gonna get, I'm gonna get further. Oh, bro, it's so fucking cool. I'm gonna get I'm gonna get further into the. Oh, it's so good. What's the name of Ian? The boys, the boys. The boys. And then it has politicians in there and how the politicians

get blackmail by the superheroes like one guy like turns himself into a heart girl's having sexual politician. Blindfolds him turns himself into like this real overweight, older man takes a picture. So he's got black male, you know? It's really, yeah, there's a, there's a, I'll look at it. Yeah, that's pretty fun. Dude, I'm looking forward though to the new Bill and Ted's.

There's the third one. I brought this up a long time ago, but they're actually like filming right now in the process. And I guess Kenya Reeves is going to have an entirely new look. Like he's, he's going gonna have like this crazy hairstyle, like there's pictures of it already, where it's like this weird like Mohawk, like kind of like a mollet Mohawk thing that he's rocking.

I love Bill and Ted. I love Bill and Ted. What's the, do you know what the premise is gonna be? Oh, they save the universe's time to your song. It's like the same thing. You know, but you kind of have to though. Are they keeping a lot of the characters and all the people, the original people in it? I think so for the most thing. You know, but you kind of have to though. I think keeping a lot of the characters and all the people, the original people in it. I think so for the most part. I don't think

the guy that was like sort of their, their oracle guy that would like take him around. I don't think it's, I don't think he lived, he's alive anymore. Oh, shit. From what I had, what was the name of the group? Wild stallions? Wild stallions. Yeah. So you have to create now in their 50s or whatever, like, you know, some relevant song that's gonna save the universe. And they're struggling for it. Acceptable language has changed since the first Bill and Ted too. They use a lot of like slurs and stuff that

are unacceptable today. I completely forgot about that. Yeah, so that'll be interesting. And that was like one of the hug each other and then they break off. Yeah, they can't say that anymore. So what do you guys who brought up the Mario Lopez thing? Did you see that that's going on?

Who brought that up? Oh yeah, I just saw. There was a lot of heat. What was it for the... I saw it stealing. It's because he didn't agree with people basically like having their three year olds change sexes. Oh, yeah.

Because I thought that was too young. You thought that was too young for them to decide that. Yeah, he made a statement on it that he retracted all of it because he got just lambat. Because he wanted to save his job at E. Yeah. Everybody came out of the woodwork to try and take him out. Well, that's the part of the market.

Part of the market is you get backlash and here's the way I look at it. He had a crowd of ribbed him to pieces. Did it? Yeah. Well, here's the way I look at it is your best bet in today's age of fast media is to say what you think Be honest and fucking stick to it. Yeah, don't because the second you that's what crowd are ripped into pieces because of that right there Yeah, cuz he's like you lose all my respect when you do that when you well because you're already screwed Right, like if you say something unpopular, you like double down on that shit

You you you get you're better off just fucking, you know, I think Donald Trump's already proved that, you just double down on that shit. You're better off just fucking, you know, I think Donald Trump's already proved that. Like just fucking double down on it. Yeah, and then that's it. Yeah, you have to, right? That reminds me of a study that, who was at that cent, it was a Jackie, they sent it to the group about millennials.

Did you guys hear about this? Oh, about the friends. Yeah, dude, so 30% of millennials actually say that they're lonely. Is it 30% say they're lonely? It's a lot. And 22% of millennials say they had zero friends. Really?

Yes, 27% say they had no close friends. This is the only, this is the beginning. Wow. We're at the front end of this. Disconnected. Well, so check this out. Baby boomers, 15% say they're lonely, generation X, 20% say they're lonely,

millennials 30% do you see a trend? It's fucking going on. And the irony of that is that we are more connected than we ever have into people. That's the crazy, it's not real. Yes, it's not the right funny. No, not the right kind of thing. It's not in person, real connection.

Of course, look how they're altering and contouring their face and like changing, like they're portraying like what they want people to see. It's not authentic, it's not a real thing to connect with. And that's exactly. That's why I totally identify with player one, like the way they portray the future. And I mean, you remember the two characters

and one of them as character is a big, huge black guy and then in person it's like this. Yeah it's a girl. It's like that's gonna happen more often than not and you're gonna see your people and they're not even like you're you think you're connecting with someone and then you realize like oh they're totally different than the person they've portrayed in Instagram and you're seeing that like your your bamboozled. You feel like everybody does that. It's like okay the way I behave and act in front of people if you hang out with me long like you're your bamboozled. You feel like you've been hustled. Everybody does that. It's like, okay, the way I behave and act in front of people, if you hang out with me long enough, you're gonna see real pieces of me coming out,

but when I'm writing something on social media, there's a buffer and I have a time to think about what people are seeing and how I'm portraying myself. And so whether you like it or not, you portray a better in your eyes, right, in your mind, a better version of yourself. How can anybody connect to the real you when that's not the total real you? You can't do it.

And it's also the human touch and in contact, like just being with someone, I don't know, I come from the radical honesty place. I just feel it's so much more freeing. Otherwise the amount honesty place. I just feel it's so much more freeing. Otherwise, the amount of stress. Imagine the stress that that would cause to always be putting yourself in that light like that and feeling like you have to live up to that. Like no wonder you feel lonely because you are probably scared to death

to meet anybody or be around. You get depressed because you can't really be yourself. Yeah, they're like, oh my God, they're gonna see me and they're gonna realize I don't have the face tune app or all those clothes that I bought or fake clothes that weren't even really on me. Like, I mean, that's crazy. The stress of that is just not worth the attention and likes that you might get in the artificial fake. Yeah. Well, we'll see how long it takes before it. If there's a little bit of a rebound or a backlash where people

start to like, because you know, this whole unplug movement that, you know, we've talked about, I mean, maybe that'll grow. Maybe people will start to say, hey, you know. It will, the question I have is when, right? It's, there's no doubt in my mind that we will see a rising of people that are promoting being unplugged and getting in disk, and you already see little signs of it. Like you see, I've seen signs that bars and restaurants

that don't have Wi-Fi. And they say like, no Wi-Fi pass where talk to people. And so there's definitely some own people that own their own business that are pushing back on it that are doing things. And I think right now that might seem annoying if somebody who comes in and you wanted Wi-Fi in there,

but in the future, I think more and more people will appreciate that because they'll see the need that wow, we are so plugged in and connected all the time that there's some serious value in being unplugged and disconnected. Yeah, I was like when I was at that, you know, a concert and they took everybody's phone, you had to lock away your phone

and it was a completely different experience. It was really eye-opening as to, we've gone with these phones and having them at your hip constantly and having any moment where you felt like, well, I'm staring at the wall or I could, you would fill that. You'd fill that with researching. You justify it. I got a text zone, so I got to like you don't have to do anything don't you guys catch yourself I mean I catch myself all the time with behaviors like that that

I can't believe that I've already done to myself like it and I think I'm really aware like I'm very self-aware and understand like the I think the addiction part of it but I like I'll even catch myself you know we're Katrina and I are getting ready to go walk the baby in the stroller and it's just like natural for me always to grab my phone and put it in my pocket. But then when it happens, when we're on a walk, and I get the phone vibrates or goes off, you're so compelled to look at what is it. Oh, it could be the guys from work.

Then it takes you out of that moment. You're having, Katrina and I are having a walk and having a deep conversation about our lives or what's going on or she's conversing and I'm listening, then also my phone goes off and now I'm reading and I mean that's like terrible behaviors and I have to sit you and you have to think to yourself like man if I consider myself a self-aware person I know that this is happening how many people are doing this like just subconsciously they don't even understand even realize it. The worst part is starting conversations with people creating connection and friendships

is also part of its natural, but part of it's also a learned skill. You learn how to do this better and better and you build confidence doing it because you practice it. Well, kids growing up who don't do it, who end up talking to each other through a screen, they end up losing that skill. So then you get them together and you're like,

100% hang out together. They don't know the fuck to do. Yeah, what do we do? I think it's mostly a learn skill. I don't think it's natural at all. I think it's something that we do learn. I mean, when I get asked a lot on when we do the single interviews and people always ask

where the radical honesty or me being outgoing or confident, like where does that all come from? And it really, it was a learned behavior because I moved around so much as a kid and I was always in a new circle of friends or a new neighbor and it's like, you know, when you're a kid and you just want to play and have fun, like, you don't know any better.

Like, I would have to go outside and go knock at the next door neighbors house and say, hey, do you want to come play with me? Like, let's go through rocks. Right, or else I was sitting in my room by myself. And like as a kid, like it was almost like I was, I didn't know better. And so it was just a learned behavior.

And then, you know, of course, the very first time I had to walk over and do that, I was nervous and scared. And you know, what if he says, no, he doesn't want to play with me? But you could do that enough times. And you get told no, one at every 10. You just don't give a fuck anymore.

And I've just learned to apply that as an adult today. It's no different. Like the way I approach a business, the way I approach asking for things or doing things, it's like, what's the worst that's going to happen? They're going to say no, it doesn't work out. So what? I'm on to the next one. Yep, totally. Totally.

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Quiqueau. First question is from Stoodley 3. What have been some of the best cues you have found to work for the majority of your clients? Boy, this is something. This is something you learn just through experience, isn't it? Yeah. It's how to cue your client to feel certain things like when doing like a cable row, for example,

one of the first cues I learned to say was to stick your chest out while you pull your shoulders back. But then I always tell people to brace their core like they're getting ready to get poked in the stomach or pinch your finger. Yeah, and pinch your finger with your shoulder blades. Pull your chest to the bar and a lap hole down. Yes. Things like that. Yeah, and as a personal trainer, you know, cues are some of the most important things you learn because these are not, you know, you train the average person,

they're typically not a super coordinated, at least physically speaking and connected person. They haven't worked out for a while. So when you tell someone, bring your elbows back or drop your shoulders, or there's no connection. They just don't get it. So you have to come up with these types of cues. Bracing your core is a great one. Now, bracing your core, a lot of people like,

what does that mean? When I say to people, pretend like I'm gonna poke you in the stomach real hard with my finger, and then instinctively they break, they brace down, then it makes a lot of sense to them. So that's one of my favorite, one of my favorite cues. I like this question because this was a conversation that I felt I constantly had when I was training trainers,

because I would get all these trainers with all these certifications and experience and knowledge. And we tend to do that, and I see this in the fitness industry too. We're getting this pissing contest on who's smarter and who can sound cooler when they explain some exercise. And it's like, that's all for you. That's all for you wanting to sound really smart. And as far as it being effective for the client and

them actually being able to apply it or feel it, which is really the desired outcome. If your trainer, your idea is to be able to take someone through an exercise, them to understand it, get it done, and get it done properly to where they feel it correctly and progress. But unfortunately, so many trainers get so caught up in trying to sound really cool when they're explaining it and selling technical, so they know a lot and they try and impress their clients that way.

And I would always have to explain to them, like listen, most of these people that are hiring you don't know a lick about anything. They barely know their left foot from the right foot. You're so far ahead of them, you need to learn how to distill all this information. And we see that even like in his example of that on like our YouTube channel.

Like some of the most viral videos that we've done are the ones that we have these crazy basic cues and tips. I mean, I think the number one is the, like the getting the butt to wake up, right? Like, so you know, many people suffer from lower cross syndrome. And when you have lower cross syndrome, you tend to be hip flexor, quad dominant.

So when you do exercises cross syndrome you tend to be hip flexor quad dominant. So when you do exercises like squats and lunges and the exercise that you would hope to feel it in your butt, you typically feel it a lot in your quads and your hip flexors. So, you know, how do I get my client to feel it more in their butt while teaching them like a floor bridge, which is a very fundamental basic exercise and getting them on the floor and then teaching them to press their back first, which what you're really teaching someone to press their little back is you're teaching them to take their pelvis

and get it into a neutral position. Yeah, but imagine if you said, tilt your pelvis into a neutral position, right? That's a great word. Yeah, so that's an example of a great cue of getting them on their back. And say flatten your little back through the floor. Yeah, you say,

squish the, pretend you have a bug, you know, that's between your, your, the arch, you know, back and try and squish the bug. And that's the type of conversation, that's the type of things that I would tell clients that got them to, to perform the movement that I want to them so they then could feel it. And then you tell them to lift their hips

and squeeze their butt. And now what you're doing is you're just helping them connect to the glutes, then you take them over to an exercise like a squat. Remember what I just made you feel? Like you want to feel that as you come up out of the squat, right? It's retracting, depressing your shoulder blades.

Instead, just pull your shoulders back and place your hands like you're putting in the back pockets of your jeans. It's a very simple thing, but it gets communicated almost instantaneously. Oh, I know what you're talking about. Shoulder press, pull your head to the window. That was a great cue. Don't remember the very first place that I heard that.

One of the most common things you see when training clients and teaching an overhead press, it's just natural when we press up, especially when most people have forward shoulder. It's just natural when we press up, especially when most people have forward shoulder. You it's very common that you press up, you arch the low back and you look at the bar. Almost 90% of your clients will do that the first time. They're looking up the whole time. Yeah, they're looking up at the bars they're pressing and that's causing them to arch the low back, teaching them to press and pull the head through the window such a great cue. Such a great cue to get

somebody to, you know, have a more straight bar path and then to bring it up over them to where their joints are stacked and their muscles are supporting the weight versus their low back arching. So that's a big one. And sometimes even they have apps now, which I love. I love some of these new apps that you have where you can literally pull up anatomy. And so this actually helps with some clients, right? Pull up like the human figure and it would just be the muscles. And I would isolate the muscle we're gonna work

and I'd say, okay, you see your chest here? Here's where it attaches on both ends. We'll have it function. Yeah, we wanna separate those attachments as far as possible. That's the stretch, bring them together, that's the squeeze. So now when you're doing a fly, it helps them understand to not rotate their arm one way or another

and keep that line of tension, because now I'm showing them a picture. It's all visual stuff. And now why is this important? Well, these people don't, they're not connected to their body in ways that allows them to exercise effectively. Here's another good one.

Like sometimes when you teach someone how to do a squat, their hips go forward and they end up coming up on their toes. They don't know how to sit back in a squat. So one way I would help a client is that I'd have them sit down on a bench and I'd sit them down and I put their legs in the right position and I'd have them reach forward with their arms and I'd tell them to stand up.

And then I'd tell them to sit back down in the exact same position that they were sitting originally. And because they have the cue of the bench under their butt and they remember how they were sitting They start to then move into a much better squat position Another one is a lunge you think a lunge is easy to teach but sometimes and it is easier to teach than a squat But sometimes it could be very difficult So what I would do with a lunge is I would get some thick pads I put them on the ground and I have the person kneel on with a lunge is I would get some thick pads.

I put them on the ground and I'd have the person kneel on it with one knee. So I'd get them in the finished position of the lunge. One knee on the pad, one foot up, your toes are tucked under your back leg and you're just kneeling and then I'd have them hold onto a bar or a stick or my hands and it's a, now stand up but don't move your feet, just stand up so that your feet don't come together. And then they'd just up and they go, now kneel back down on the pad, and then they kneel back down.

And then we do it again. Push-ups, another great one. I'd have people oftentimes bring their body all the way down to the floor, lay down on the floor, brace their core, and then press themselves back up, pausing in between the rep to give them that plank position that you want when you're doing your push-up. Yeah, more vertical drive.

I'm always stressing that, especially with step-ups or even squats or lunges and just like trying to maintain that upright supported position. So it's supported, it's upright, but it's supported, meaning you are bracing. You're bracing that core.

You're able to withstand, you know, forces. So I'm just trying to make sure they know like the goal is to get up as vertical as possible in a lot of these lifts. Yeah, I've said this so many times on the podcast and in fact, this is what I teach and train when I go around talking to trainers. You know, the most important skill you have

as a trainer is how you communicate the information that you have in your head. It's not the amount of information that you have in your head. It's not the amount of information that you have in your head. That doesn't mean shit to the client. What you know means nothing unless they can understand and really understand and implement it. So if you think about it that way, now think about the average client. The average client coming to you is not looking to be a fitness competitor or a bodybuilder or a high level athlete. The average person simply wants to be healthy, improve their body composition, and just live a balanced, healthy life.

Now think about that. How much real information do you need to fully understand and implement to accomplish that? Not a whole lot. I mean, you're not talking about advanced training type of stuff, but they don't fully understand it and they don't know how to implement it. So how you communicate these things is absolutely imperative and getting a client to move through good form and technique and to understand why they're doing what they're doing

is extremely important. You can't just train someone. Well, again, there are good examples. That is another viral video that you did on our YouTube channel, which is the plank video. I loved when we did that video, because they stirred up so much shit on the proper way to do a plank. And one of the things that I know that we take into consideration

when we're teaching something that is getting the desired outcome. The desired outcome for a client is to get them to engage their core and hold themselves in that position and not allow their traps and their low back to carry over the load. Now what we know from that and knowing that when we've trained tons and tons of people, what they tend to do is they kick right out, the hips kick right out and they stress the low back. And then their shoulders and their low back is what's really holding them in the plank position.

And simply by queuing them to rotate the pelvis just a little bit, squeeze the glutes and keep it active the entire time, now takes that exercise that so many people do wrong and make it really beneficial for you by teaching that. So there's your focal point. Right, it's very simple. Yeah, it's like if you can direct them to that one specific thing to keep as an anchor,

you know, you're doing well. I remember one of the first cues I learned working out as a kid that really blew me away. I remember, you know, I started working out at 14 and I would do all the exercises in the bodybuilding magazines and I really wanted to develop my shoulders. I was really skinny and I'm not naturally wide on top of it, so I was skinny and narrow and I was like, I wanna build some delts. And one of the exercises that I would always read about to give you more shoulder width for body building

was the side lateral. That's where you stand up and you bring the dumbbells out to your sides with your arms slightly bent, but fixed. And I remember reading an article where Arnold Schwarzenegger said, imagine like you're pouring water out of a glass as you're lifting the dumbbell. And it was a game changer for me. Because it just, it helped me focus on rotating arm

just enough to keep, just to keep the focus on the side deltoid because the tendency is to want to rotate externally to have my hand come up over the top rather than having my elbow up a little higher. So once I did that and I imagine pouring water out of a glass I was like, oh crap. I feel it. And that was my first exposure to the power of cues So once I did that and I imagine pouring water out of his glass, I was like, oh crap. I feel it.

And that was my first exposure to the power of cues and how cues can make all the difference in the world. Talking about the shoulders and other great one. And we did a video. If you're listening to this and you're interested in like really good cues for X-SY then, this is how we use the YouTube channel. I mean, this is a lot of the exercises on there, are simple basic exercises that people have probably seen before, but we've got a lot of our coaching cues that are in there.

A game changer for me, again, in line with the shoulders, was the rear fly. For years, I did a reverse fly incorrectly. And what I mean by incorrectly is I was allowing bigger muscles in my back to take over the movement. And it's tough to not do that if you're not cute properly. And so when you'd sit in a machine and you do the peck deck and you do it reverse fly or you bend over with dumbbells and you do a reverse fly, it's really natural for you

to pull back the shoulder blades and squeeze the rhomboids together and the back because they're bigger, more dominant muscles, takes over and the rear delt doesn't get that much activity in it, simply by staying in a rounded position and queuing to fly out instead of flying back. Man, that's such a game changer. I remember learning that and teaching that to the clients that are trying to develop their rear delt and it's hard to isolate, it's impossible to isolate a muscle. It's even more difficult to isolate a part of a muscle and trying to just do the rear delts and not let the rest of the back take over was really challenging.

So the Q to fly out and staying in a protractive position versus the natural tendency is to retract and to fly back. Next question is from Wade Nguyen Performance. What would the conversation look like for you guys if you were trying to convince a female client with a decent amount of training experience to focus on building strength through the squat, deadlift, and bench press with a side effect of improving aesthetics rather than focusing way too much on looks. So this was a conversation that I would have relatively often with female clients. And it doesn't have to be somebody that was really experienced.

Oftentimes, clients come in and they have no performance goals. They only want to change how they look. And they could care less about how strong they are, how well they perform. This tends to be generally more true among women than men, but this is also very true for men. I mean, a lot of guys would come in and I would get excited when a guy would come in and say, I want to hire you so I could bench press more or squat more. I'd be like, I'm actually a pump. Yeah. Super rare. It was usually I just want to change how I look. I really don't care about anything else.

And so the conversation for me would be kind of like this. Like if we just focus on performance and when it comes to nutrition on good health. So we focus on eating healthy for good health and training for performance. You're going to get a great deal of performance and health. And as a side effect, you're going to get amazing aesthetics. Somebody who can perform well and eats appropriately, they look good. Healthy looks good.

Now on the flip side, if all we focus on is looks, if everything is geared towards looks and we don't pay any attention towards performance and health, you may get some improvements in the way you look, but you'll lose performance, your health will start to decline, and over time you'll actually have none of them. You'll have no improvement in looks, because if you're not healthy, you don't look good, if you don't perform well, that you can only last so long with poor performance before your appearance starts to reflect it as well.

And so you lose all of it. So really, the strategy of approaching performance and health as the priorities is a better gamble. It's just you're going to, you're gonna get more of what you want if you do it that way. Now that doesn't mean it's easy, right? A lot of people might hear that,

and then their motivation is to do that because they still wanna look good. So they're like, okay, well I'm gonna do that, but I still wanna look at. And so then sometimes my conversations would revolve around not weighing yourself. Let's only focus on how strong we are. Let's look at the weight that you're lifting.

My conversations would revolve around their performance. Hey look, last week you did this many reps. This week you did this many reps. You could only squat down to parallel. Now, you're going all the way down. Looks like your mobility improved. Look at your time and your sprints. Looks like you're running a faster, you know, 40-yard dash or whatever. And oftentimes, me talking about it as a trainer, what you'll find is clients oftentimes want to impress their trainer. And so when you start talking about them as a trainer, what you'll find is clients oftentimes want to impress their trainer. And so when you start talking about them, those start to become the things that they start

to focus on, and they just get better results. Here's the thing too, especially with female clients. Focusing too much on aesthetics tends to lead them towards the calorie restriction, calorie burning model, which in the short term, yeah, you could definitely burn a lot of body fat that way, but in the long term, causes metabolic adaptations that are just not favorable long term. You end up with a slow metabolism or slower metabolism and you're in a situation that's difficult to maintain.

It's difficult to maintain an hour and a half of activity every single day and 15-hundred calories intake every single day. How do you maintain that for longer than six months or a year or two years or three years? Very, very difficult. I'll also tell them that and say, look, here's a deal. You can get to where you want to go doing things this way, but to stay there is gonna be really hard,

if not impossible. Unless you only want to look good for a few months, then I think we should follow my advice, which is the long-term approach. Well, this is definitely super common in this conversation. I feel like I've had a million times. And I agree with what you're saying right now. But I also recognize too how difficult it is

to change someone's mindset like this. And that typically takes time with me as a trainer. Like, I've got to have you for months, unmunts, and months, and built that trust before I can start to convince you to think differently. Like, and sometimes this is really tough when you first get a client because I remember also being this guy. Like, I was all show no go. So you trying to tell me that I should do this for health reasons, I don't give a shit. Like I just wanna look really fucking good.

I don't care anything else. That's my main focus and someone else trying to convince me otherwise would have a hell of a time. So I know if I was that way, probably a lot of clients are the same way. So instead of me trying to convince them so much on like changing what they should be focused on, let's focus on what they want to focus on, but

neglecting those movements or not doing more of those would be silly. And the analogy that I always like to use for this would be like giving somebody an example of an artist who sculpts. And if you've ever seen somebody who scopes at a wood or eyes or clay or anything, they have all these chisels. And when they first start, they start with a big massive block of wood. And the first thing,

and if you've seen some of the ones that do it from like a big old tree trunk, you start with a chainsaw first. I mean, it's a chainsaw that is chipping away at the biggest chunks to get down. And then they move to a finer tool and then a finer tool and a finer tool. And I would explain to this client that the squat, the deadlift, the bench press, this is your, this is your biggest tool towards sculpting the physique that you want.

And you wanting to neglect or not focus on getting better at these, these exercises and doing all the other stuff. We are using all the fine little tools and then you're trying to chisel away into Salis Point, like he said, sure you could do that, it's not that we can't do it, but why would you do that? It's gonna take you much longer to build the physique

that you're ultimately looking for by not focusing on the exercises that are gonna get you there the fastest. And so instead of me trying to change their mindset right away, I'm probably what's better for them and healthier and the relationship where our soul is going, fine, let's focus on all aesthetics. And it's all about training for that.

I'm all good for that. But to not want to improve the movements that are going to get you towards your goal faster would be ridiculous. And so let's put a lot of our energy and focus on getting great at these movements because they're going to give you the greatest bang for your buck to starting to sculpt the physique that you want.

You know, it's cool about this question too, is have you guys ever had a client that wasn't excited about getting stronger when they actually get stronger? Right, right. It's never happened to me. Every client I've ever had, ever, even if they could care less initially about strength, when they saw that they were lifting 10, 15 pounds more, or they were able to, you know, do more push-ups or a pull-up, every single

one of them got excited. Yeah. Now, this person is using, is saying a female client. The women tend to get more excited than the men do. Strength is extremely empowering. You know, we do a lot of traveling right now with mind pump. And one thing that I notice is how many people struggle to get their damn suitcase into the upper compartment in the plane.

And I see men struggling sometimes to take them down and put them up. But oftentimes I see women who are struggling and you can see that they're struggling and then someone else steps in to help them out. So for women to improve their strength, very, very empowering. And I've been told this time and time again by women, well they'll come to me and say, look, we've been training for a year. I didn't really care about getting really strong. You know, you're the one that kept talking about it and they're like, I open my, you know, We've been training for a year. I didn't really care about getting really strong. You know, you're the one that kept talking about it.

And they're like, I open jars easy. I could put things through them bags of concrete in the back of my car. Yeah, dog food. And it's like I just feel more solid in my body. I like being strong. I don't know anybody who doesn't like being strong. Yeah, I think the most part,

that's, I try and reinforce that. Like, when you have that opportunity and kind of a compromise, like what Adam's talking about, even if you don't sell them on the idea and you pitch that in the beginning and you have this grand vision of like, what's sustainable, what's going to be more difficult to sustain? And what is your life, what do you want it to look like, you know, going through this process?

Like, can is this amount of calories? and what is your life, what do you want it to look like going through this process? Is this amount of calories? Is that something that sounds appealing to you for a long period of time, or is it something that it's a short window that we have that were really focused on getting this desired look in a quick and short amount of time? But once you draw that out and you compare the two, and so out and you compare the two, and so I like to compare the two options and show what the end result looks like and what state your metabolism is in at that point, or if we're focused on strength,

now what we can do with the body that's cool and we can reveal this muscle that you've built through this process. But even if you don't sell that in the beginning through the workouts, I love reinforcing, oh wow, how much easier did that last lift feel for you? And you try and pump them up with the strength gains that they're accomplishing these extra reps

and how much easier life is in general when you're stronger. My favorite is, and I know you guys have had this happen and how much easier life is in general when you're stronger. My favorite is, and I know you guys have had this happen a hundred times or more also, as I would love it when a client, a female client in particular who, through this process is listening to me, I've earned their trust.

You can tell though that they're still like, but I still wanna lose 10 pounds on the scale. I said, I'm like, listen, it'll happen. Let's just get stronger. Let's develop your metabolism, let's whatever. And then they'll come to me and be like, I ran into some friends I haven't seen in six months. And every single one of them,

asking me how much weight I've lost, even though the scale, it says I haven't lost any weight. All of them thought I lost 15 pounds. And I'm like, yeah, you look different. You look different because your body is different, you're stronger, you're more fit. The scale doesn't tell you everything. I used to love hearing that.

Like, when they come back into the same weight, but everybody thinks that they lost weight, because then it starts to click for them. And then it's easy from that point on, they start to believe it more and more because it's getting reinforced from the friends and their spouse. Next question is from K1000 R R. Justin and Sal, what are the biggest developments you saw

as a person when you became a dad? Did you feel Adam was missing some of the characteristics you developed as a parent? Adam. Adam is missing his son. Can't wait to hear this, you motherfucker. Adam, after Maximus's birth, Did you notice any immediate changes in yourself? Oh, I love this question. I love it So what characteristics? Well first off first off, I'll say this. You know what?

I'll tell you see No, no, no, I'll say this right now. I didn't think you're missing. I never thought you were missing any characteristics at all. I was gonna say, fuck you guys. You were telling me the whole time I should be a dad, it'd be an amazing dad. No, I don't think you're fucking lied to me. You were a potential. We thought you had a lot of potential.

You weren't ready enough. Here's a deal. Here's what I noticed for myself that changed a lot. It was my perception of life value of things, meaning boy, did that change. was my perception of life value of things, meaning boy, did that change. Like, I think before I had kids, it was a lot about me. Now, I'm not gonna lie,

it was still a lot about me after I had my kids. That process took time to change in me. But it was all about me, and it was about seeking things that made me feel happy. What I realized after having kids was there's a difference between being excited and happy and having purpose and purpose is more valuable. And what I mean by that is, there's a study I like to bring up on the podcast and I used to bring this up to Adam before he had kids when he was kind of thinking about it still.

And I would say look, when they do polls and they ask people without kids and they ask people with kids how happy they are throughout the year, people without kids report less stress, less anxiety and more happiness. And so if we leave it at that, everybody's like, well, why would we ever have kids? Well, because the following question, do you have purpose in meaning in your life, far higher with people who have children? Now, here's the reality of life. Whether you have kids or not, it's going to be fucking hard.

It's just going to be hard. The life sucks at some point for everybody, regardless of your money, regardless of your situation, and you're're gonna have some challenges. If you don't have purpose and meaning, boy, is that gonna be unbearable? If you have that purpose and meaning with your children, like I know if I have a terrible accident tomorrow, and something happened to me and I'm paralyzed,

or maybe I can't speak anymore on the podcast, it'd be very, very difficult, but my children, knowing I have that purpose, will drive me. If I didn't have them, I don't know if I'd even make it you know survive something like that So that was the biggest thing that really changed it also got it was also a mirror Nothing reflects your own shit to you like like your kids man. Yeah, I think that was the biggest lesson for me was I mean It's true you you do sort of get outside of like your own

Agendas and it upends all of your ideas about, I need this to feel good. I need this to be happy. I need this to happen in this specific sequence for me to feel like I've accomplished something or it sort of just throws a wrench in that whole thing and you realize what really matters and But at the same time it's it's a complete reflection on On your own insecurities your own things that either

Either you love about yourself or or you know you you know like you're trying to work on Improving upon yourself and you see it play out, you know, with your kids. And it's an education that's unlike anything else. It really does challenge you on a deeper level. And that, you know, it's something that's like, you have to experience it to even understand. Yeah, it's funny. It's like, if you're, you know, let's say you grew up, you have to experience it to even understand. Yeah, it's funny. It's like, if you're, you know, let's say you grew up and you were really shy and you

became super insecure about that and then you try to work through it as an adult and maybe you're better and then you have a kid. The odds that they're going to be shy have that are actually quite high. So you relive some of these situations and issues. It's a reflection. You know, my kids can be total smartasses. When I was a kid, one of the biggest reasons I would get in trouble was I was a smartass

and I would talk back to everybody. I always had to have the final word, right? And those people who know me and listen to the show know that that's probably not quite true. Well, I have a fucking son that's exactly like that. He loves to correct people and loves to sound like a smart ass. And so I get to hear firsthand how annoying that can be. And so it's that mirror that reflects things to you. It's really cool and you have to like drop your ego. Oh, ego. Let me tell

you, man, you have to humble yourself. Your kids will humble the shadow. Well, the other thing, yeah, so getting upset about things, that completely changed. You got to learn to be cool and roll with the punches. Like, really, it's not, like, you realize, like getting upset doesn't contribute towards, you know, the desired outcome for some of these things. Some of these things, it is good to be, you know, upset and maintain these boundaries,

but you start to figure that out even more with having kids, like, what are the true things to really, you know, take that out even more with having kids like what are the true things to really take that type of energy towards? Yeah, as far as Adam's characteristic, you know, that's a weird question because I don't know. I think it's his own. Yeah, I think kids just, they'll bring the worst for the best out on you.

I thought I for 100% believed, and I'm right, that Adam, and Katrina will both make amazing parents. I thought, here's what I thought. I thought he's gonna have a kid, and he's gonna realize all the challenges that come with having a kid that you can only realize when you have a child. There is no way to understand it until you have one.

I don't mean like, ha ha ha, you're gonna see how hard it is. That's not what I mean at all. It's just something that people with children who are involved with parents understand. How many times have you heard this statement, Adam? You'll know when you have kids. And that's fucking annoying to hear. But you start to learn it when you have one.

You go, oh yeah, like, here's something that I learned. I learned the full capacity of love. I love my parents, I loved my brothers, my sisters, and my friends with all my heart. But then you have this child, and your capacity for love, it just grows, and it doesn't stop growing. The older they get, the more it grows.

And you're like, where does this stop? I do feel, it's crazy. I do feel there's an advantage for people that are a bit more self-aware and are already working on their own insecurities, issues, things that they know their tendencies going in and what they can, you know, embed and pass along. Because it is the great equalizer, you know, because that's just going to come at you even harder.

Otherwise, if you're not already currently working on those things, you know, this, this question is kind of funny to me. And especially the characteristics ones and assuming that I would be lacking in a bunch of characteristics to be a parent or a father. And what it makes me think of is, you know, Sal, you've talked about this on the show before that sometimes somebody who is a atheist can get criticized by someone who believes in religion, and a lot of times somebody who's atheist

understands religion as well or better than a lot of people understand their own religion. I feel the same way about fatherhood. I think that because I didn't have a father, I thought about being a father probably more than most people ever have. And that's part of what made me wait until I was this age because to Justin's point, self-awareness has been a major, major focus on myself. I had to fix all the things in myself and become a better version of me before I would ever consider raising the ultimate child of mine. And so I think that I've done a lot of work

to become an incredible father in my entire life, although you would hear me talk and say things like, I might not have kids, or I don't want a kid right now. And that isn't like, oh, I don't want to be a father, it's that I know there's so much more work to be done on myself before I ever wanted to become a father because it's something that would probably keep me up at night most of my life. So I think that that's an area that I would probably be underestimated on what I would bring to the table as far as being a father.

It's something that I've always thought about and I've took and I took very seriously the day we got pregnant and I've probably read more books on it than the average person. I've put in all kinds of practices around my own behaviors and things things that I've noticed that maybe are a little bit different I That I wasn't expecting I have a whole new level of motivation That is in me and I know the guys kind of said that, like, you know, you're drive financially. And so with that, I'm already a very driven person

and ambitious, but I do find this even more purpose to be the best version of myself. So if that means that I... If you're a natural provider, having a kid is gonna make you... Right, that means, because now you have someone that can feel... Yeah, right. So I feel that. And. I mean, because now you have someone that that feels. Right.

So I feel that. And it's funny because it's not that I feel that because, oh my God, I need to make sure I have money. I need to have things for him because I've already in a place where that's not going to be a problem for him. It's actually that I just want to be the best version. I want to be the best version of myself as an example for him. Like, one of the best ways I'm going to teach my son to be a

provider for his family and be ambitious and go after goals is to crush mine in front of him. One of the best ways I'm going to cheat my son to be a provider for his family and be ambitious and go after goals is to crush mine in front of him. Let him see that behavior in me. I've found this renewed motivation, even my training right now, the most consistent with my training and diet that I've been in a really long time, with less time, with less time, with less sleep, with less everything. but I'm more motivated than I've been. I haven't felt this motivated since I was competing to really put that much effort. And it's really, it's not a selfish thing,

it's a self-listing, it's this, I want my son to see his dad and be like, so proud. Like, man, I got my dad, he's this old, he's fitter than half the dads that are out there, like he runs this business, he's got all this, so I think about that stuff all the time and I didn't see that happening, so I noticed that about myself. And then the other funny one that I think that makes me chuckle every time it happens is I'm definitely more emotional,

for sure, 100%. That one's a bit right. I remember that. I was watching something stupid last night and started to cry over and I was like, what the fuck is this? This was, it was watching some of the best. I was watching something stupid last night and started to cry over it. I was like, what the fuck is this? This was, it was so embarrassed about it. It opens your heart, bro.

Having a kid. Are you finding that, you know, because I mean, I could see, you love your son and it's great. It's wonderful to see. Do you find yourself just, it keeps growing and you're like, I can't keep getting any strides. Is it really gonna get strong?

And it just keeps growing? Yeah, I think that's the motivation that propels all the other stuff going on is the love gets deeper, the wanting to be a better person, a better version of myself gets stronger and stronger every day that he's on this earth. And so, yeah, man, those are the major things that I think I've noticed that have changed.

Can I make some predictions on the air? Yeah, of course. Because he's only a month old. And there's a lot that starts to develop and change as he grows and as you have more kids, if you have more kids, and as your relationship develops with him and all that stuff, and you just solidify who you are as a dad and all that stuff, I bet you'll start to get more interested in something that you usually have no interest in,

which is world affairs and politics. I bet you're gonna get more interested in than that. That happened to me. Yeah, because you start to think about all the shit that affects, for example, education, school, what are they talking about? What's going on? Oh yeah, you start to give a shit.

You're like, what the fuck, I care about what's going on. I predict that I'll start to have one. No, sure, you know what I'll say? I noticed too, I could totally identify and see the adults that got fixed in a certain, you know, like, pat, like developmental phase. Like, you could see like some of the stuff that they have never worked on.

And you look at them as a little kid. Like, you're like, oh wow. Like it's very interesting to, like you could see how little kids become adults and like, you know, what happens like based off of whatever variables. I'm more apparent. I've shared that with you as a skill set

that I've had my whole life. I still to this day, how that like it's, it's what gave me the confidence to interview the some of the people that we've interviewed when we first started this thing, when you would think that you'd be really nervous, but I have this ability, and it'd probably being

the oldest of five and raising two young kids, I think that I picked that trade up early on because I can sit in a room with somebody, and I don't care how powerful, how smart, how talented you are, I can immediately see you at 12. Right, and I could just unpack all your shit, how powerful, how smart, how talented you are, I can immediately see you at 12. Right. And I could just unpack all your shit, like just by talking to you for 20, 30 minutes,

and it all suddenly puts me on this level of playing, oh, you're fucking human. You just have learned to excel really well in this area. Super successful, but also you're still here. Right, you still got all this other stuff going on. So I can see that. How about this one Justin, have you had this happen yet?

And this happens, I'm sure to every parent. But this is such a hard thing to deal with is when your kid has a challenge with like friends or someone says something mean to them or something and you just, they just have to deal with it. But you see them hurting and you're like, oh yeah, it kills you inside because you know the best thing is to have them work it out, right?

And not to intervene at all. Yeah, my daughter, this was like a year ago or so. You know, I pick her up from school and she just was kind of quiet. And you know, as a parent, you know your kids. You just know, you know, how they feel or what they're thinking. You might not know exactly what's going on,

but you can tell when something's off. I mean, my mom used to be able to do that with me. She'd be like, what's wrong? Tell me, and I'd be like, fuck, I just, you know, she was just kind of quiet. She wasn't herself, and I'm like, what's the matter? What's the matter? Over and over and over again.

And finally, I gave her some time, and then I entered into the conversation again, and she's like, well, today, you know, it's cool we were all playing, and then so and so, one of her best friends said she didn't want to be my friend anymore. And then the other girl that was what they're said, yeah, she don't want to be my friend anymore either. And so then I was alone. And I'm just like, fuck, and you know, my, it's like second grade, you know, this is what kids do all

the time, especially little girls. They do shit to each other. And I was just like, fuck, like, give me their names. I'm gonna talk talk to their parents. No, but I know all joking aside, you just feel it. You know, because you know, as an adult, you know, it's silly. Like, you're not gonna give a shit. It's second grade, not a big deal. Don't worry about it. But you know, you remember being a kid.

Yeah, you feel the same feelings with them. Yeah, he likes it. Oh, yeah. It's gnarly. I remember once when my son, he was like, maybe six or seven. So he was real little and we had his big birthday party or whatever. And all the kids went outside and they were playing some game where they had to jump over something and he couldn't do it.

And he came inside and he didn't want to play outside anymore. He was so upset. I'm like, what's the matter, buddy? And he goes, I'm not good at some of those things and I'm not going to do it anymore. He's real sad. I'm not fuck like what? So I had this, you know, it hurts, but then it's a good opportunity to have a great conversation. And so I sat down with him.

I said, I said, look, I'm going to tell you something right now, you're, there's always going to be someone better than you at something else. But one thing you can always do is work harder than everybody else. So you can either choose to go outside and keep practicing and being the best or be okay with the fact that you're not, and that's okay, it's not that big of a deal. You could practice the things that you enjoy doing. It's just having this great conversations,

but man, as a parent, you become, that's it, you become vulnerable. You start to become vulnerable. All over again. All over again. You have everything figured out, and that's a great way to put it. Yeah, all of a sudden, you're just like,

you're not invincible, bro. You just opened you up again for the onslaught. Yeah, you know, like, you can get sick the first time, you're gonna be like, what the fuck? Oh, no, he's puking us. So there's like, pandemonium. Yeah, but anyway, but yeah, the emotional thing, bro, that's a fucking big one. Yeah, that was pretty fun.

And we did that live event the day after he was born. And I've created a question. I'm like, I've talked about that many times before for some reason it got me, but, and I've got my, I mean literally, I don't even. I'm like, I've talked about that many times before for some reason it got me, but I've caught myself, I mean literally, I don't even, I'm trying to remember what the hell I was watching last night, but I definitely know it was not something

I should have been emotional over. It was like, it was like to the Taco Bell commercial. No, it was like, it was like a total, like it was like a guy show. It wasn't even like a romantic or like a, you know, one of those shows, it was just a but I'm trying, what was I, what was I watching?

I was watching something, what did I just tell you guys that came out that I watched? Oh, it was a rocket man. I watched rock, I was watching rocket man. It's a great movie. And it was the relationship, the bond that he had built with his best friend who wrote all the songs with him. Oh yeah.

And when he was expressing his love for him, you know, even though he's not attracted to him or anything like that, but he was sharing his love. They're just good friends. Yeah, and I was like, oh, go. He's trying to, what the fuck? Best friends. Yeah, so I do notice that.

I definitely, I've got a softer spot in me that I didn't think of. Well, your boy is Teddy Bear with Claus. That's how I like to look at him. And your boy's blessed. He's blessed to have you as a father. So next question is from honestly, Haley, what does stay authentic mean to each of you? Mm.

I think it's I think. I think yes, the authentic is comes from one of our core values, which is radical honesty. Um, that's what it means to me at least. I think that to be authentic, you have to be radically honest with yourself first. And I think that we live in a time right now where fake is more fake than it's ever been. I think that we put our best foot forward on Instagram, we Photoshop, we use apps to change our face. And we're, we're, the pendulum is swinging so far that direction that I think the message

of staying authentic is going to be really, really important. I think that we all kind of saw that early on when we first got in. And that was a lot of the motivation of the unedited version of Mind Pump. We weren't very talented and we were very raw at the beginning. And I like to think that we're much better today than we were then. But what we cared more about being better or being a great show or having millions of listeners, we cared more about being authentic and being ourselves and true to people. Have a value system and stick with it.

Right. If you want to simplify it on that level, I know this is already going to be one of those words that's going to get polluted because you see movements out there where some of these... Had to miss your selfie. Yeah, they're trying to teach you how to be more authentic. And so you sell yourself better by downplaying your production value or wearing certain types like wearing certain types of like clothing

or how you're talking direct camera instead of like this scripted kind of feel to it. And it's just, you know, there's always gonna be that. There's always gonna be tricks and hacks and all this bullshit out there that I'm confident that people can see true authenticity. They can see that because it's just exudes. It's not something that looks calculated

or in the body language. It's very much, to me, very apparent. I could spot it out a mile away. And that's, it's kind of a hard thing to teach at to somebody. You just have to own it. You have to be who you are. And I don't know, whatever it takes for you to find that,

like that's the work you gotta do. That's it, that's just it right there. Authenticity is another word for self-confidence, but being comfortable in your own skin. But in order to do that, you have to know who you are. And that's the problem. So I think the people on Instagram who post the, you have to know who you are. And that's the problem. So I think the people on Instagram who post the, you know, the butt pictures

and they photoshop themselves and the people who act a particular way, you know, and we think that they're fake or whatever. I think they're being authentic to what their values are. Their values are, I want everybody to think I'm a particular way. I want everybody to like me. I want popularity.

I want popularity. That's what they value. And that's the problem. You have to first kind of know who you are. And if your values are gonna come through. Now, if your values are like for me, like for example, shoes, let's talk about shoes for a second. I value comfortable shoes.

I come to be comfortable. So when I wear shoes, the first thing that I consider is, are they comfortable? And sometimes, when you look at me, sometimes you'll tell, oh wow, look what a sales wearing. You must only care about the comfort of the shoes. But that's me being comfortable with who I am. You see what I'm saying?

I'm just comfortable in my own skin. Now here's the irony of it all. People love it. So if you like, just want people to like you, well first off, wouldn't it be great if people liked, if the people that liked you liked you for being yourself? That would be awesome. I don't think that's somebody you're pretending to be.

Right, that's actually quite stressful and terrible. Oh, we see, I think this is why this message is so important and why we trademarked it. Because of that simple fact see, I think this is why this message is so important and why we trademarked it because of that simple fact, is that I think we live in this era now where it's hard to find authenticity and more and more people are faking it till you make it. And I think it's causing all kinds of stress and anxiety

and it's becoming an epidemic. And I think we're gonna see more and more of it. And this message is going to rain true. Now, how many people are gonna be out there saying it, but still aren't doing it, probably still a lot, but at the end of the day, I think this is the goal. I remember years ago teaching one of my sales guys how to do a presentation.

He was gonna do a big sales presentation to a bunch of sales people in the company. So there were going to be about a hundred people there. And although he was a confident individual, he felt nervous. He was really nervous that he was going to talk to about a hundred people and do this big presentation. And so one of the most impactful things I told him was, tell them you're nervous. When you get up on stage, if you feel nervous, tell them all that you're nervous. And he did, and it worked. He got up there, he relieves the pressure.

He wasn't hiding it, he got up there and he's like, like, look, I'm really nervous right now. Please bear with me. And it made him feel a lot better. And everybody in the audience appreciated that he was being honest with them and telling them the truth. When you acknowledge it, you know,

it relinquishes the power of it. Right. And when you're comfortable with yourself and you have your value system, you're okay with being not liked. You're okay with going against the grain. You know what I'm saying? Like, if I'm in a room full of people

and they're all giving an opinion that I completely disagree with, I'm comfortable enough in my skin to give them my opinion if they ask me, that doesn't mean I can necessarily come out and say it because I'm gonna be rude or whatever, but if someone asks me, hey, what do you think about this? Well, I'll be honest with you, I have a difference of opinion here's what I think,

and I'm comfortable enough with myself and confident enough with myself, where I'm comfortable enough with myself, and confident enough with myself, where I'm more shatter my belief in myself if other people don't necessarily agree with me. And so authenticity is literally, you have to know who you are, be comfortable in your own skin. It's the opposite of group think.

Yeah, and then it comes out. You can't be more authentic. You have to be comfortable in your own skin, and then the authenticity comes out. It's like trying to meditate hard. It doesn't work that way. If I sit here and meditate hard, I'm not gonna meditate.

Oh, that's why it's derived from radical honesty. You have to first be radically honest with yourself. You have to be true to yourself that this is what I believe, this is what I stand for, this is what I care about. And I don't care if someone- But radical honesty with yourself, more than anything, This is how I, this is what I believe, this is what I stand for, this is what I care about. And I don't care if someone- But radical honesty with yourself, more than anything, exactly right.

Yeah, yeah, that's exactly what I said. Radical honesty with yourself. You gotta be okay with the fact that you're okay, that you don't give a shit what your shoes look like, that you care 100% that how they feel and sticking to that. Like, I don't, I just, it's not something that you can teach somebody,

it's something that you first has to fix within inside yourself. and then the stay authentic or the authenticity will bleed out. It is, and I'll tell you something. One friend that is a true friend that knows the real you is worth more than a billion fake people who like the fake version of you. That's a fact, 100%.

And here's again, more irony, you ready? people who like the fake version of you. That's a fact, 100%. And here's again, more irony, you ready? The one that's gonna give you more business success is the real authentic people that really like you for who you are. That's the truth. And you know, you talk about conversion rates and how much you can sell on whatever.

Being comfortable in your own skin and being who you are, you're just gonna be far more successful than the fakeness. The fake stuff typically doesn't work and if it does work, that is a trap that you'll be in for a long time and it's torturous. And you see it all the time with celebrities and people who are miserable being something that they're not.

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