Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1096: Weight Watchers Review, Training for Multiple Adaptations in a Single Workout, the Best Training Program for Children & Teens & MORE

Episode Date: August 14, 2019

In this episode of Quah, sponsored by MAPS Fitness Products (www.mapsfitnessproducts.com), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about training certain body parts for strength while training other body parts with higher reps and lower weight in the same workout, the pros and cons of Weight Watchers, applying MAPS programs to children or teens, and how they met their partners. How Justin is ‘Wreck it Ralph’. (6:07) Mind Pump Weekend Update: Adam attends his friend’s daughter’s first birthday, makes the ultimate Butcher Box ‘pork butt’ crockpot meal, updates on his ‘cabin fever’ & MORE. (7:48) Mind Pump Conspiracy Hour: Jeffrey Epstein's suicide, first human-monkey chimeras developed in China, water bears on the moon & MORE. (15:35) How the ChiliPad has been a lifesaver for the guys. (30:35) Justin takes the family out to the 49ers game and gets the VIP treatment. (33:47) Sal and Jessica visit baby Maximus. (35:40) Sal has McDonald’s French fries for the first time in 10 years! (40:42) The unwritten code behind how retailers price tag codes. (42:19) How Amazon is now targeting influencers. (43:55) #Quah question #1 – Is it ever appropriate to train certain body parts for strength while training other body parts with higher reps and lower weight? Or should your whole body be on the same style of training? (47:30) #Quah question #2 – What is your opinion on Weight Watchers? (54:33) #Quah question #3 – How would you apply your MAPS Programs to children and teens? (1:00:44) #Quah question #4 – How did each of you meet your partners and how has your impression of them changed since you met them to now? (1:08:34) People Mentioned Jessica Rothenberg (@thetraininghour)  Instagram   Related Links/Products Mentioned August Promotion: MAPS Prime/Prime Pro ½ off!! **Code “PRIME50” at checkout** Visit Butcher Box for this month’s exclusive Mind Pump offer! Visit Kettle & Fire for the special offer for Mind Pump listeners! Alone Full Episodes, Video & More | HISTORY Before Jail Suicide, Jeffrey Epstein Was Left Alone and Not Closely Monitored October Surprise conspiracy theory The Family | Netflix Official Site First Human–Monkey Chimeras Developed in China Crashed spacecraft may have left tiny but tough creatures on the moon Origin Of Life: The Panspermia Theory Gomez Chamberlain the Chimpanzee Visit ChiliPad for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code “MPOOLER” at checkout** Inside the secret world of price tag codes Amazon Influencer Program MAPS Starter | MAPS Fitness Products MAPS Fitness Anywhere Mind Pump Free Resources  

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Then we talked about the Jeffrey Epstein controversy. Ooh, here we go. All the conspiracies. Super. We're all completely shocked that he committed suicide. Nobody could have predicted that. Wow, that came out of left field. Then we talked about China and how they developed

the first monkey human, Kimera. That's a crossbreed between monkeys and humans. Yet another thing Alex Jones was right about. I was right. I feel like that's a sci-fi movie, right? It totally has to be. Then we talked about tardigrades. Those are those little water bear creatures

that can survive anywhere. Apparently Israel shot up a satellite, it crashed on the moon. Now the moon has been seated with these little creatures. Water bears on the moon. That's crazy. Then I talked about the chimp who did the American Injouwier obstacle course and crushed it. I love this conversation.

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Then we talked about Justin's 49er game. He took his kids to the 49ers. That was nice. I talk about how Jessica and I visited Adam's little boy, Maximus, we had him made a nice little visit this weekend, got to see the baby. I talked about how I had McDonald's French fries for the first time in 10 years.

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I know, Doug hates it when I'm... I mean, yeah, it's a lot less... I think Doug started me off first because I'm the most guilty, like any sort of like bump in interruption, I'm just like, ah, bling. It's either worse... I have no worse filter. Yeah, pretty much.ruption, I'm just like, ah, bling. It's either worse, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have no, I have, I have no, I have no, I have dude, he smashes everything. And like, just walks through the house, he breaks the stuff.

No, does that make you more Mike? Cause obviously he's probably broken some that's pissed you off or frustrated you or embarrassed you. Yeah. So does has that made you more mindful yourself now? Like fuck you. No, it's a pure reflection of myself. And I'm like, at first I'll get like,

ah, like I get like angry and then I realize, oh my god, I do this too, all the time. Like if something's barely just barely hanging off the table, it's coming down, like you'll bump in it somehow. Do you chip the plates when you wash them and shit? I, yeah, I've done that. Put them in hell of a heart. Actually, break, I've broken a few glasses

the last few months. That's how you get out of dishes. Yeah. Break it, break it, couple of your wives favorite dishes and she won't make you do dishes in the world. You know what, you get out of dishes. Yeah. Yeah. Brick a couple of your wives favorite dishes and she won't make you do dishes in the world. You know what? She's giving up on that. She's like, yeah, you're just gonna break stuff.

You would make a terrible ninja. You would never be able to sneak up on anyone. Yeah. You'd be good at the battle part. Right. I mean, I'm pretty like light on my feet, you know, and I wanna be and sneak up then I would smash. Yeah, you break something.

Yeah. Yeah, I'm accident. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know I would smash. Yeah, you break something. Yeah. Yeah, I'm accident. Yeah, I don't know. Anyway, I don't know how that works. Anyway, do you guys have good good weekends? Yeah, I went out of fun. I went and visited my buddy. Well, his daughter's first first birthday.

So we went out there. She did. I thought this was pretty cute. They had the, was it the League of Your Own, the one with Tom Hanks? So yeah, great movie. So he has a daughter, right? So and he has a daughter, right? So and he has a daughter, but it's so funny. He's a diehard baseball fan and keeps dressing her up and like,

sport boy sports looks and stuff like that. I told him the other day, I'm like, bo, your daughter is so young right now. Like, you can't be put in her in like all blue. And then a Dodgers hat. People are going to mistake her as a boy, dude. Like, you know, you got to at least like, at least get a pink jersey if you're gonna do that shit, right? So anyways, he wanted to do a baseball theme and so he did a baseball thing, but they did it a league of their own. So all the girls had like the cute little skirts

and the socks and. Oh, that's cool. Yeah, yeah, no, I thought that was really cool. You know what else this weekend? So we've been having people that come either stay with us or have been making you know, making food as far as family and friends, like really close friends and family. I've been incredible, like as far as the support with Maximus.

I mean, Katrina and I almost every day have had guests or someone, by the bare minimum, somebody comes by and like drops us off something. Her mom made this dish the other day and Katrina and I remade it because it was so freaking amazing. And we used the pork butt and we put in the, the, who, good old pork butt. Yeah. So we, so we ordered this. So we just changed our butcher box order and you can get like a five pound pork butt in there. So she, she ordered that on the last order. So it just came in. came in a big butt. Yeah, right Yeah, and we put it in the pot roast if you got back and you let it let it sit in the pot roast

overnight. I mean you can't it's like a crock pot or yeah, this I meant not pot roast. Sorry the crock That's that's the what I was looking for and you literally put all we all we put in there was a little bit of this dill herb a Little bit of pepper, salt, and thyme on rub it on the meat and then just let it sit in the crock pot. Then we did your protein rice. That's the bone broth instead of water. Okay, yeah.

So we did the protein rice, and then we do sliced avocado, and then pink Himalayan salt. Oh. Over that. BOMB. Oh, that sounds so good. Bomb. And it's great because it's one of those dishes too. Like any time I can make something that I can eat multiple times

in the week over and it's like, it doesn't, it doesn't taste like shit for leftovers. It's one of those leftovers that get better like with the days. Is it juices, marinated in there? Yes. So we cooked up the big ol' five pound pork. Can I thought about ordering the, because you know, you can switch your box out

on butcher box every month if you want. And we went in there and started switching around. And I'm not a huge pork fan. I'm not a big, I bake in a lot, but I'm not a big pork fan, but I did see the pork butt. And I thought that might be good for something like that because it's nice and fatty and probably falls apart.

Oh my God. So maybe I'll do it with that. Oh yeah. And in the crock pot or just simmers and gets it all nice and fatty and probably falls apart. Oh my God. So maybe I'll do it with that. Oh yeah. And in the crock pot, or just simmers and gets it all nice and juicy. And the compliments that protein rice really good. So the combination of all those together. That's like a bulking meal.

That's where I'm at right now, right? I'm trying to put on some size right now. So I'm enjoying the hell out of meals like that. Have you guys tried the scallops yet? I know Courtney saw that and was like, oh, sweet, she loves scallops. They have some deal going on right now. Oh, the bacon wrapped scallops.

Yeah. No, I didn't, I saw that too. Yeah. I mean, that's a perfect thing. You put them both together, two deals, bacon scallops, and they can wrap them. Shelfish, shellfish are quite healthy.

They're high in cholesterol, which I've talked about building muscle. And they have, they're high in nutrients that are valuable. They're hard to get and other types of food. So every once in a while, you got to throw in a little shellfish in your diet. At least with Jessica tells me all the time.

So we go with it. Just to know that moose was really lean meat. Moose has lean meat. Moose eating moose. I'm watching the, it's so funny right now. I'm like getting, I'm getting cabin fever. You're watching everything, everything, bro. Yeah, I know. Dude, do you see this documentary?

He's like, no, I can't keep up with you, dude. Oh, it's all, I mean, let's be honest. All I do right now is, you know, Max supposed to go outside really, but for a stroller role every once in a while. So that's like the break in my day. Otherwise, we're on the couch, dude, you know? You know, watching movies, why he's falling asleep

on my chest. I'm like, I've gone through so many different series right now. I've like, I've seen everything about all of them right now. But I went, I've been watching the alone where they, they've got them up in, not Antarctica, they have Alaska, thank you. And they have them, they drop. I got your back.

So that would be down. Yeah. So they got them, they got them up there and they're on day 54 right now. And there's I think four or five contestants left. And one of the guys I think he got it about day 30, he killed a moose with a bow. Oh, wow. He killed a moose in the bow.

First time ever on the show, right? So the show's now on I think season seven or something like that. And no one's ever killed big game. It's always been living off of bugs, living off of the squarbles, fish, like those are typically that's and they have certain amount of feed you for over a year. So he, this is what happens though. So, supposedly the meat is so lean and he's not getting enough fat. Mm-hmm. That he, so he kills this moose, he thinks he's like, want it. Like, what he does is the back in day 30

or whatever it was when he actually got it, because I think it supplied him like 500 pounds of meat, which you would think of. But now some of the meats gonna have fatty, like the organs and stuff, once you're done with that, though, you're stuck with really lean meat. Plus, it's gonna go rancid if you don't, you know, store it.

So if freezes it, if freezes out there, so he's okay. But what happened was, so to your points out, he did. He carbs off all the, he got all the fat, he had it all in these jugs, and a Wolverine came and stole it. Oh! So they went just for the fat. So then he was stuck with, you know,

400 pounds of moose meat, and, you know, he was too lean. Too lean. Yeah, they actually, I can't remember what the term is for it, but hunters and trappers in the winter, sometimes it's starved to death because all they would be able to catch

are like lean meat animals like rabbits, and then weren't able to get enough fat. And so you body, because fat is an essential. So that happened in this other girl. So this other girl has been trapping rabbits, and that's what she's been living off. And so they have these, I think it's weekly or bi-weekly check-ins, where they send somebody out there,

they check all their vitals, they check their BMI, and they tell them if they can stay or not. Protein poisoning. That's part of the story. It's called, huh? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or rabbit starvation, which was something that was common with trappers.

They would actually star from not having enough. Well, so this girl, so she's been killing it, like she's been getting rabbits, like crazy. But that's all she's been really eating that and some berries and stuff. And they actually just pulled her to this last week. They came and they checked her and they're like, you're worried about your organs shutting down

and you're losing weight too fast and you don't have enough body fat on you. Your body starts to eat itself. It is not a good position to be in. If you're in a situation like that, you want to aim for fat, not protein, because you can get away with having a little bit of protein, but fat. Yeah, I found that interesting. I watched the season before. Fat seals, you know, they're all a blumber. I thought for sure this guy would

win for when he caught a moose, you know, I'm like 500 pounds This dude's got enough to last him for the next year, but he lost the fat to a Wolverine. Yeah, and a Wolverine apparently Those are the toughest little bastards like out there like you let him take it. Yeah Yeah, you want to mess with a Wolverine. Yeah, he killed he actually killed it a couple nights later afterwards He set up a thing to wake him up and then he came out and he actually fucking got it Whoa, damn this guy's a bad at it. He is a bad ass. That's a cool season. It's actually a cool season to watch. My other two best friends are like huge into it.

And I got back into watching it this last season because I was like fucking surfing for shit to watch. Oh, dude, fuck me in. You buy the way. How do you guys like the conspiracy theory shit coming out with this Jeffrey Epstein thing? Yeah, did we not call that? I mean, I'm sure everybody called that. It's just like, come on.

Dude, and now I'm not a huge conspiracy theory person. I think they're interesting and fun, but the reality is at the end of the day, it's usually the most simple explanation is the right explanation. So I'm not a big conspiracy theory guy, but boy, does this one just keep making itself harder to, like it makes it, it's a blatant.

Let's like, right in our face. Let's walk through this a little bit. Okay, so dude goes, he goes in, right? And he, so you guys start from the beginning. He was a sex trafficker of underage girls. He's a billionaire. A lot of people don't know how he got a lot of his money. He flew high profile people to this island.

Connected to some of the most powerful people in the world on both sides of the aisle. So Republicans, Democrats, Kevin Spacey, Bill Clinton. Yes, actors, actresses, politicians from other countries, royalties connected to Prince, I think it was Henry. He's connected to people in the upper echelon of the Catholic church. This guy's got crazy connections everywhere.

There's flight logs of, like Bill Clinton was on his flight log flying on his private jet to his private island that a lot of people said is where he had a lot of these underage girls. I don't know how many times he flew on it. Something like 26 times, 27 times, 26. And many of those times without his secret service, which is very, very weird. But anyways, there's a lot of weird shit around this guy, right? He goes down for some, one of those crimes, but they don't go after the big stuff. He gets off real easy, then years later,

they go after him again. And so now he's like, fuck, now he's screwed, right? They put him in prison, he tries to commit suicide, fails. So now here's the protocol. If you're in federal prison, and you try to commit suicide fails. So now here's the protocol. If you're in federal prison and you try to commit suicide and you fail, they put 24-7 watch. 24-7 suicide watch. Yes, both camera and guard.

You have no shoelaces in your room. Your sheets are thin like paper. They rip, you can't hang yourself. 24-7, they're watching. But they didn't put them in that. For some reason, he wasn't on suicide watch. So they put them in this federal thing that they check on in every 30 minutes.

So every 30 minutes he gets checked on. Apparently he had a cellmate, it's whatever I've read so far. For some reason, they removed the cellmate. So now he's by himself. Mm-hmm. And the guards didn't check on him. And oh, by the way, the camera that records,

that's surveillance, 24-7 surveillance, malfunction. Oh, oops. So dude, this is just surveillance. Yeah. Malfunction. Oh, whoops. So dude, this is just detective work. This is not conspiracy. This is like a fucking dude detective work. This is HBO special, bro. Yeah, come on, dude.

This is not, you can't equate this to flat earth. You know, like that's what pisses me off. Now what do you, okay, so let's have fun with the conspiracy. What do you think? I'll tell you what, if this wasn't conspiracy, here's my theory. My theory is that he was so afraid of the shit

that they were gonna find. Yeah, he might have killed himself. Then he just killed him. They let him though. That's the thing. That's what I think. I think you're right. I think that he...

He just fucked. He probably did kill himself, but they probably let him kill himself. And it was like, listen, here's what we're going to get our hands on. So this is what's good. Why would they turn the camera and everything? Maybe because they provided him with everything that he needs. Yes, right.

They're like, hey, by the way, we're not going to be watching here. Here's a rope. Do you know what you don't do? Do we know? It was Hillary with a mustache. Yeah, with a visitor. And a glass. I'm dying when I saw that.

Oh, it's so good. Dude, it's so crazy. You know what I think's gonna happen? So every, before every election, right before there's always some crazy controversy that comes out. Now usually what happens is the politicians know about this controversy and they save it.

What do they call it, the October surprise? They save it. There's a name for it? Yeah. I did not know that. That's collateral. No, no, no, it's called the October surprise. Doug could look this up.

In every election, there's always something that comes out right before it's time to vote. And it's always to sway the election. For example, the last one was Hillary Clinton's emails getting, the investigation getting reopened. They called that. Well, then the grab by the pussy video that all of a sudden surfaced.

That was the other side one, right? So my, I think that there's gonna be, what does it say up there? Oh my God, there's a real, I didn't even know there's a real, a vent work for spring. I didn't even know that was a thing. I mean, I knew it was a thing, but I didn't know that at all.

Well, no, so both sides have their, when they have their strategic meetings or whatever, what they do is they say, okay, here's what we have, here's what we're gonna work on now, here's what we're gonna work on in the next corner. Here's what they're gonna get us with. Yeah, here's how we're gonna counter that. Yeah, because what you wanna do

is you wanna drop something at the right moment because what ends up happening is it gets a lot of outrage but then it wears off. Right, right. So you have to drop it at the right moment. I think there's gonna be some crazy shit that's gonna come out around all this stuff. My conspiracy's always been with any politician,

like even to get the office, you have to have like something that, you know, you have to willingly give them his blackmail in order to even get into the ring. I like that theory. Yeah, like we'll let you win. Yeah, but we're gonna have some shit on it. We're gonna have this, so then we'll use this when we want.

Oh, yeah. Oh, you think so? Yeah, like we'll concede to that. That's a bad or meeting. So I heard that there's like, there's a lot of things that like both sides are so guilty that there's like mutual agreements going in. But they won't fuck with you.

They won't fuck with you. This might be one of them. So yeah, there's like, I hear like many of the presidents have like second lives like Another wife and kids and things like different countries and shit like that and that's fucking more common than not Yeah, and because it's so common that a lot of times candidates are just like that's off limits like you don't touch Like I do the same thing. I do the same thing. We know you do the same thing It's like you know most most our relationships are shell anyways. Like, don't fuck with that.

I won't fuck with yours. And I've heard that. Well, the whole conspiracy that there's this elite level of fucking these sexual perverts and deviants that are into, you know, sex trafficking with minors and children and all that stuff. That's been a conspiracy for a while. And the stuff that comes out around that is really fucking disgusting and frightening. But if that were happening at that level, oh my gosh.

Could you imagine that at the destabilization that would cause or whatever? If shit came out and they're like, oh, yeah, here's some people that Jeffrey Epstein provided with underage sex, you know, whatever. Yeah. The Pope, fucking the president of England, you know, with the prime minister of England,

the president, yeah. I mean, it could be- You just started watching the family, right? I watched just the first episode. Oh, yeah, I watched three of them. I didn't finish it yet, but I'm almost done with it. I think it won seven or something like that right now. Yeah, it gets deep, dude.

It is very interesting. Yeah, that series. I'm totally into it gets deep, dude. It is, it is very interesting. Yeah, that, that, that series. I, I'm totally like into it. Like what they've created with that. Oh, yeah, that's, I, I just don't, I don't, here's the thing. I, I have a tough time trusting.

You can't trust regular people anyway. You can't watch those documentaries anymore. That's why I think it's so funny when people become so passionate about a candidate and they like, they're like defending them to the teeth. They don't know that guy. I'm like, I would never defend any of them motherfuckers, do you?

I don't understand anybody who's like that. Like, you know, like just looking at them, oh, he's a good guy. Yeah, I like this guy more than I like that guy. What? That's how you get to decide. Yeah. What the fuck?

Well, I'm telling, I've said this time and time again, this is the truth. The people that seek that kind of power or the very people you don't wanna have power, that you don't want to have power. Like if you desire it that bad, no, you don't get it. I want the reluctant leader, I want the leader that's like, fine, you guys want me to fucking,

I'll do this shit, but then I'm done. I'm just not armed, yeah, like I really don't wanna do this. Yeah, because the money ain't even that good, right? They're salary, it is the power. It just shows you, it's all about the power. Oh, I mean, the president's salary is what? 300 and something or 500. It's not even, it's like, fuck. 400 grand. Yeah, it's the fuck what? All these people are making charge speaking. Which is been millions of dollars to get yourself

in that position. This is what makes sense. But they have free rent. Yeah. That's a good factor. That in to do good. You factor that in. That's a cool house. You throw parties. All about the power. All speaking of governments and weird shit, did you know that the very first, when I read this I was like, this is not real. No, that's real. The first human monkey Cameras have been developed in China.

Oh my God, bro, you're taking us to what? This is real. What? An international team of researchers has created embryos containing both human and monkey cells. This is like Alex Jones' level podcast right now. Yeah, dude, like he brought this up like long time ago, like on Joe Rogan's episode, dude. Yeah, he was talking about the chimeras out there

that they've already been working on. So this is true. This is like been verified. This is real. This is a crossbreed of human and monkey. Now they don't let it develop into a baby or whatever. They let it build up a bunch of cells. That's what they're saying, right?

They let it build up a bunch of cells and then they destroy. And it's research because they're trying to find ways to grow human organs is what they're saying right. They let it build up a bunch of cells and then they they destroy and it's research because They're trying to find ways to grow human organs is what they're trying to do. I see they want to find ways to grow human organs But I mean in the meantime you're developing a fucking can we just mess with their own stem cells first? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I got a cross species Yeah, and now you know why they didn't in China Because the US has laws against that. Yeah, so they good reason so they flew to China because you know why they didn't in China? Because the US has laws against that. Yeah, so they good reason. So they flew to China because, you know, China is,

we may be immoral, little loose. We may be immoral, but they're immoral. They have none. So they went over there and they made a human planet of the apes coming through. Oh my God. Dude, it's fucking, this is the thing about science. This is the big thing.

Humans need to ask if we should just chimp people It's always can we yeah, can't it's never should we and it's our own arrogance. God. What are we gonna do man? These conspiracy theory they write themselves don't they you guys might have another one Oh, I got a good one. Okay, so do you guys know what a tardigrade is? Oh? Yeah, okay, I read this one. They call them water bears. Water bears. Oh, microscopic.

The Mars thing. Yeah, so they're the... So they're the... I'm glad you went this direction. So tardigrade, they're these little microscopic animals that can survive anywhere, basically, without food or water. Well, so you can put them in space,

no food, no water. They shut everything down, and their cells basically turn into almost like glass and they can stay that way for a long time. We've brought tardigrades back to life who've been in that state for 10 years. So 10 years, no food, no water, just chillin' there and then we'll bring them back to life. And we just crashed them on the moon, right? So Israel sent the satellite over to the moon, a lunar lander, and it had human DNA on it.

It had a bunch of different things on it that they were gonna test it, whatever. Anyway, fucking crashed and basically smeared a bunch of tardigrades all over the surface of the moon. So back up here, because this is what, this apartment doesn't make sense to me. So they're heading there with a bunch of DNA

and these little fucking bare things. I think they, like, what is this? What's this thing? Yeah, okay. So that doesn't even make any rexpins up there. Like, how does this happen? Like, you're heading up to space. What are you going there to do?

Well, no, what are you doing? They're trying to preserve like human DNA, like a bunch of different things. Like, in terms of all the books that they've put on this disk, it's like a quartz disk that has like some kind of, I forget what kind of metal covering over it or whatever. So it just, it lasts for like 100 something million years. So it's like our civilization, you know, human DNA,

like all this stuff that like if say, you know, aliens find it or whatever. They're trying to make like a lunar library. Yeah, like a library, like a human. It's gonna have the whole codex or whatever. Yeah, it's gonna have like the whole English Wikipedia on it, human DNA, information, you know, it's just a whatever.

So they dehydrated these things and so you can rehydrate them later, but living beings. Yeah, so what it, so fuck man. So we just basically put life on the moon. that can actually survive on the moon on accident. Yeah, imagine those things evolve and get like huge All right, what a future future, you know human civilizations or who knows what happens in the future But then they go to the moon they're like we found life on the moon. How did they get there? I don't know make sure you Google what these things look like That is he's doing it right now. Yeah, no, I'm talking to the people listening. Oh, yeah, they look, they kind of look squishy, don't they,

a little bit? Yeah. Like you want to squeeze them a little bit? Yeah, they can, you know those moles that are like, hairless? Yes, with the weird tube faces or whatever? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's crazy that we can blow up an image

to be this big and this much detail. It's like, how tiny is this thing? Uh, it's a microscope again. It's not as small as a bacteria, I don't think. I think it's bigger than a bacteria. Yeah, I wonder if you could see it with the naked eye. Yeah, no, no, I don't think you can. Yeah, so now there's a bunch of water bears on the moon.

They're gonna rise up. I heard they did the same thing with the, when they launched that Tesla car, like out into orbit, and it's on this like a path of, I don't know, like a 10 or 100 million years or something around the sun, but they put it in the glove box. Like they put that with the human DNA and all the,

you know, library of all this information. Why? I don't know. They're just like shooting wads out there in space, basically. That's the, I mean, that's, you've heard pan spermia, right? You've heard that theory before? No.

We're doing that. So pan spermia is the theory that Earth got its life from a meteor. This is the base of Scientology. Yeah, that Earth. That Earth was lifeless, right? But it had good conditions and then meteors hit the Earth, but there was life on these meteors.

And so it seeded the earth like pan-spirmia. Like it's like, you know, earth got just on. Yeah, good. By the universe. And it's impregnated. So if you believe that, you have to be freaking out about these bears on the moon then. Right?

Bear. Bears on the moon. They look like little bears. Big headlines. Everybody run. Speaking of animals, I watched this video. You know what American, you guys know what American enjoy warriors. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you love that show.

The crazy obstacles and shit. We got a guy on the show, remember we interviewed him. That's right, David Camel. Long time ago. Yeah. So anyway, I don't know how they did this, but they got a chimp, like a little chimpanzee, and they trained him to go through the obstacle course. Bro, watching it, no.

Watching a chimp go through the course was so comical because he's effortless. He's fucking around, dude. He's not even tripping. He's just, hang in, he's smiling at everybody. He's like, yeah, I just, yeah, exactly, scratch the darn, but he made it, and he broke everybody like world records. No way. He's a fucking everybody. He's got his eyes on his armpits. Yeah, exactly, scratch the arm. But he made it a cr- and he broke everybody like world records. No way!

He's a fucking ship, dude. That is so cool. It was so cool to see that. That is cool. Anyway, silly. Anyway, dude. Dude, so I was talking to Jessica this weekend. Now that we've had the chili pad, the uller,

for a few weeks, and we're just talking about how deep we've been sleeping. And she's like, both of us are just dreaming. So what's her temperature? Are you guys on different channels there? I start, I go 63 on mine, 67 on hers. So she's a little bit warmer than mine is.

And then the part warms up to wake you up, pair that alarm clock. Fucking amazing. Well, it's been saving me. The last few nights, because I mean, we don't have AC or anything in my house and some of it, like our house has just trapped all this heat

and to have that, like normally I just sweat. And then, you know, like my back would just be like sweat, wake me up a couple of times in a middle of the night. This has been saving me from that, even with the fans going, oh, it's completely safe here right now

because so last week, it almost seemed like Max miss a cot of coal or something, but he'd been really congested. And you know, one of the suggestions is the steam and then keeping the house hotter, which is tough for me because I like, if you guys know how cold I like my house. So I keep it like arctic in there,

and on top of that I have the chili pad. That's how cold I like it in my place. But with him, I'd notice a big difference when I keep the temperature like above 72, which is like to me is, I never let my house go over over 69.70. Like that's like me turning off the AC is me turning it to 70.

So letting it get up to like 72 73 is where he is really comfortable at and he can breathe better. So we've been keeping the house at like 72 73 and the I now I make sure I go turn on the the cooler like fucking four or five hours before I'm gonna bed and All the way to the lowest the lowest setting so it's like an ice and I get them like, oh, and it helps me fall right to sleep. I could never, ever sleep with my house in the 70s before I'd be sweating, tossing, turning all of them. Well, I'm a big and I know you guys are in a laugh, but I like to, I like to like hug while I sleep.

I know, I'm that guy right. Yeah, but it can get hot. Just start like that and like, I mean, how long? Like big, small night. All night? Yeah, Jessica and I are all night. We're like, she's like my little teddy bear. Little burritos. Yeah, we like, I mean, how long? Big spurt night. All night? Yeah, Jessica and I are all night. Or like, she's like my little teddy bear. Your little burritos.

Yeah, we like that. We both, it works out great, because I'm gonna, if you're not that kind of a person, if you're not super touchy-feely, I will 100% annoy the shadow. Yeah. Because I am. And I don't stop, that's the problem.

You can tell me I'm annoying, I'm gonna keep doing it anyway. She likes it, so we're both like, but then you get the, the ulla cools everything down, so we don't become a sweaty mess. You know what I'm gonna keep doing it anyway. She likes it, so we're both like, but then you get the ulla cools everything down so we don't become a sweaty mess. You know, in the evening. But people, people ask me this question, so I wanna answer it on the podcast.

There's no EMFs in the pad. It's no electricity in the pad. It's not wires, it's water. So there's no, you don't have to worry about sleeping on, you know, something that's producing a bunch of EMFs or whatever. No, we were gonna fuck with it, that was a case. Yeah, why are they dying over there?

Just to see if I can. I got Doug. Doug had just had an inside joke with him. A little bit. I don't know, Doug. Is this what the Sal does or what? No, no. Oh, something I do.

No. You guys will hear it later. All right. You gotta go back and listen to the episode. Okay. Yeah. Fuck you, guy. Anyway, dude, how was the Niner game with your kids?

Oh, my God, dude, we had the best time. And I've been a handful of times. Who was it that hooked us up with that? Momentous. Which big shout out to them for, you know, hook it us up with that. I'm so glad you guys couldn't go. Well, first of all, it's not that I couldn't go. I remember like, you guys want to watch football? You wouldn't have appreciated that for sure.

Yeah, no, I thought that was cool. Were they good seats or what? Yeah, they're good seats. Were the field? Yeah, well, we went on the field for like, they gave us passes to go down there and like, see the players before the game practicing and everything. And so we actually got to bring the kids like,

right on the field and then they had a photographer take us like right next to where they were practicing and like we got this really cool shot that was all professional and then they framed it for us and hand it to us later and there's a suite. It was up in like the the Black Ocasino suite I believe but had the whole thing decked out all the food everything we could have hoped for it was awesome. Wow. Yeah. So that sounds like a good time. Yeah, and they played, I mean, it was a good game to watch too, because I mean, there was some hits being thrown out there in that game. That's what excites me about football the most is watching people cracking each other.

Yeah, dude, it was, you know, one of our guys got thrown out for some personal foul, and it was total bullshit. And then after that, like, the whole team got fired up and started just, you know, cracking heads, dude, I got excited. What was it? Did they win? Yeah, they won. What was the score? Yeah, I think it was 17, 9 or something.

Oh, nice. Yeah. What a cool experience for your boys. I love seeing pictures. That was the best part. Yeah, I mean, the feel to take your boys down to a professional Paul team's freaking field. I mean, that's just cool. Yeah, and they saw these monsters

that they watch on TV, you know, up close. There's nothing like it. Yeah, that's so good. I love seeing stuff when you do stuff with your boys and your family, it's so nice. I got to visit Adam over the weekend too. Got to see him in Katrina and their element with the baby.

That was nice. Yeah, Jessica got her fix. Yeah. She finally got to see the baby. Maximus time. This guy gave a gift that I was super rad. I didn't even know this was a thing. So, Sal surprised Maximus with his first stock. So, yeah. Yeah. He bought him Disney stock. There's this company that gifted it to him. He gifted it to him. That was super cool, man. Well, you know, when you buy an infant something or a kid, I always think to myself, I'm trying to think like, when I was a kid, I remember as a, I got bonds as a gift a couple of times.

And I thought it was so cool, because, you know, they mature 10 years later and you make a little money, but bonds don't make you shit, you know. You give someone a hundred dollar bond, it's worth 115 bucks, you know, 20 years later. So I was trying to figure out what I could do, and I'm like, how can you gift an investment?

You can do five to nine plans and stuff like that. But I don't know if they had opened one yet or whatever. You could actually buy stock gift cards for stock. I don't remember the name of the company, but I bought some Disney stock because I figured it would be appropriate. And Adam's a big fan of Disney or whatever. And I'm like, this will be cool.

Maybe when he's 18, it'll be worth, maybe it won't be worship, but maybe it'll be worth putting it up. Yeah, that might be cool. No, no, I thought I was a freaking rad gift. I didn't know you could do that. Yeah, that was so cool. And I told him right before he had done that,

that Katrina and I, we just had this big old long talk about this because the holidays are coming. And I know her family and my family are gonna go crazy with my son and I don't want them to. I don't want them to buy. I don't. He's going to get plenty of toys. If you give a quarter of the family, buy some toys, he's going to have more than enough toys and he needs them then including ourselves. So what I would really love instead of just burning money like that is like, man, put it towards an investment that he can later on in his life when he really needs it, he can use it. So I told her I want to start an account that specifically for that and encourage family like to just donate to that. Donate to his education in the next 18 years versus just buy

something. Yeah, he did something with savings, but that's even better having like stock. So it came in a card and you basically just run the numbers and then you put a dollar amount on it. And then he just goes and activates it. Wow, that is cool. And then they have the stock or whatever. No, it's really, it's really, it was cool seeing them with the baby though.

It's just so, so natural and so comfortable. It was a great environment. Did you cry immediately when South-South was talking? No, you didn't actually. Yeah, he did good this time. Oh, good, oh, good. I purposely, I know, my voice't actually. Yeah, he did good this time. You know what? I purposely... You were warming up on it.

No, my voice is loud. I'm fucking talk loud. So I purposely brought my voice, and I'm just not aware of it. Yeah, a couple of times Jessica would be checking him because Jessica was holding him and he'd be sleeping on Jessica and then Sal would be, him and Sal and I were talking.

Again, she'd be like, shh, she could have been doing that. I told you she knew all the time. I told you guys when I was a kid, my mom had my hearing check. I don't know how many times because she thought I had bad hearing because I Yeah, I feel like it's to it now. Yeah, maybe that's what maybe I'm just adjusted to you I mean I think I brought our levels up. I feel like I'm allowed talk or two so I must be really loud you are loud But I don't think your voice is as piercing as mine.

I think it's more that. I think you just have like a different sounding voice. Different frequency. Yeah, that's what it throws it off. And I think it throws it. Because what I am noticing about Maxmas right now is that we've kept him around. That's a loud sound.

So it's awesome. We could have TV, Blair and people coming into the house, dogs barking and he'll just be sleeping. But if a sound that he hasn't heard yet goes off, he will wake up, or it will startle him. It's because not familiar, maybe. Yeah, I've noticed that. Interesting.

Yeah, so it's kind of interesting to see that it's not, so if it's loud or not, it's like it's familiar or not, is what will come. I love the way the dogs responded. Like there were a couple times when your boy cried a little bit, and the dogs immediately perk up and they walk over and see what's wrong. It was so interesting to see that.

Like they really care, they wanted to check on him. Yeah. Remember the pack? Yeah, especially seeing him in somebody else's hand because they were, because normally they'll come over and they'll sit next to me, but you could tell they were, you know, pawn at you a little bit looking up and like wondering,

okay, who's this holding? Holding. Yeah, yeah, it was cool. I mean, so cool, right? That's so awesome. That's why dogs are amazing. They've been great, man. I was really nervous just about how they were gonna be.

I thought, you know, they, for eight years now, you know, Bentley's eight and Mazzie's six, they've been our kids and we spoil the shit out and take them everywhere and they're very needy dogs. More needy than any other dog or pet I've ever had. And to the point where they'll fight over, you know, who gets attention and shit. So I thought, man, when this, when this kid comes, they're going to be fucking a handful to the point where

I was hiring somebody to take them off for two hours a day and just go play with them spend time. But they were totally opposite. They actually, they, I've seen since the, since Max, Mrs. came there, they're calmer than they've ever been. Like you said, they have this concern when he cries. It doesn't get them all frantic. It actually just gets them concerned. They kind of come over and they sit. They're very docile around them.

I can lay them on the ground and they're gentle with them. It's crazy. That's so great. That's been awesome. That's my dogs are amazing, man. Oh, so you know how a few episodes ago, we were talking about, I don't know how the topic came up, we were talking about fast food, and I was saying how, in my memory, McDonald's french fries are the best in the world ever,

and I hadn't had anything McDonald's probably for 10 years. Well, so I was thinking about that episode this weekend, so I actually went through the drive through McDonald's and got a, yes, I did. And I got a, I just got a small french fries because I'm like, you know what? Did you really? I did because.

That's so great. Yeah, it was like, are these good as my memory tells you? Yeah, like two bucks or whatever. But you know, it's like, yes, that's exactly what it is because oftentimes you'll have a memory of something and the memory is better than the actual thing itself. Totally.

So I'm like, let me test this out. I, you know, I'm eating healthy anyway and it's a small fry. I want to see if it actually tastes as good as I remember it because I hadn't had it for like 10 years. Guess what? Yeah. It's just as good as I remember it.

They engineer the fuck out of those things. Oh my God. What do they do? What do they do? I remember it's a patented process. It's the moment, dude, I was eating it and I found myself eating it faster and faster as I was eating it. I was like, it faster and faster as I was eating it.

I was like, this is the most hyper-palatable thing that I've ever had in my life. Well, it used to be something to do with the way they salted them and actually the fat that they fried them in, right? Well, it used to be made in beef talo. Right, I think that's the thing. But then they changed it.

And so now it's some weird chemical concoction. I have no idea. Yeah, because vegans are really like, Jones and firm McDonald's. Yeah. But dude, it was, look at that. See, they have a whole science article on it. He brought up, Doug.

It's the most palatable thing I've ever had. I could totally see myself eating so many of them that I make myself sick. It's crazy. That is crazy. I got something crazy for you. So I got something crazy. There's this, I was reading this article on prices,

it like Best buy and target, and how consumers can know like how good of it. There's, so there's like this unwritten code amongst retailers on how they end, and there's a mathematical reason behind this. But if the price ends in $99.92, $96, it signals something different about the product. And as a consumer, you can actually figure this out.

So for example, if the price ends in 92 cents, it's a one-time price drop, often below wholesale, incredible deal. If it's a 96 cents, adjusted price to beat the competitor, it's a good deal. If it's 99, full price, or marginal markdown, bad deal. What, where'd you read this? Yeah, it was either hustle or morning brewing.

So this is 92 is the ideal. Yeah. So it's just a thing that they do in the retail store. So if you're at Best Buy, you're at Target. And you see now, what if the difference between it's expensive, good deal, and it's really cheap is literally that, the five cents or whatever? I mean, it could be. Yeah, I mean, it is literally that, the five cents or whatever. That's the thing. I mean, it could be that, right?

But I mean, I thought that was interesting that you could look at the end of the price and see that and see what it's a- Dude, this is what I do. If I really feel like being a cheap ass when I go to the store, I'll go to a store or like something immediately go on my phone, find it on Amazon. And I'll just start comparing. But I'm like, nope, find it on Amazon. Yeah, and I'll just start comparing. But I hope it doesn't have an app. There's an app for that, right?

I'm going to scan it. You see Amazon's doing the influencer thing now? Oh, yeah, explain that. Yeah, they emailed me yesterday. So it's like basically just, they're tardy influencers. I'm sure they saw the social media following or something and then email me directly as I've qualified as somebody who can do this. But I can set up my own basic landing page

is all of my favorite things that I buy from Amazon and that anybody that goes through that and buys, I'm getting a kickback. And they have it, it's tiered, so the... So you have to get an invite or something? Yeah, well you can apply. So if somebody who's hearing this right now and is curious, do you know what I'm saying? That's smart. Yeah, and then you apply, no, it's brilliant.

That's very smart. Especially Amazon. I know we have that also with things like that. That's, I mean, it makes it easy to monetize your following. If you're somebody who, you know, you don't want to create a product, you don't know what to do. You've got 50,000 followers or whatever, and you want to say, hey, I want to see if I can monetize this.

Yeah. Why not do something like that? We have way more products than skinny tea. Yeah, yes. And that's the other thing. It's exactly true. I mean, you can literally promote a trillion different. I like it.

I like it because hopefully, man, maybe we'll see this kind of transition with influencers right now because it is getting almost disgusting. How many people that are just, they'll take on these fit teas or supplement companies or whatever just comes their way. Because it's honestly the only people that are just, they'll take on these fifties or supplement companies or whatever just comes their way. Cause it's honestly the only people that are reaching out to them and asking them to advertise for them.

But maybe if I could just talk about the things I already buy and like, via Amazon, then I have some integrity. I could feel like, oh cool, I'm promoting all the shit that I would buy anyways, it's on my list. Do you know what the commission is? I do, I haven't written down somewhere. Was it good or no?

Yeah, I mean, you're not, we're you're not I mean it's not that appealing to us You know what I'm saying we have we have a product we have something or self-so we've created somebody has a following They may want to make an extra five yeah, yeah, maybe I mean Maybe I would do something like that if we didn't have mine pump and I didn't we didn't sell programs We do anything like that. I was trying to monetize it and I didn't want to do I mean here's a thing if that what it came around Before my pump came on, because before even my pump started, I was already getting people reaching out to me

when I was competing and my Instagram was like at 10 or 20,000 followers or whatever it was around there. And it was mostly supplement companies, which we've always talked about, I have no interest in promoting their bullshit or t-shirt companies, right? So I turned down all of that stuff. Now, if this existed then,

like I might have jumped on that. Like I have no problem sharing with my, people ask me all that stuff anyways. Like, oh Adam, where do you buy this? Or what do you like this? Or what's your favorite that? It's like, well fuck, if I can just drive everybody to a landing page on Amazon

and with the direct hyperlinks to, I'm already using this. I do like it and I'm making, you know, but the kickback isn't a lot. But if the volume is there, I mean, if you got, and it's a cool product, it's an easy way to monetize. You're not gonna make a ton of money,

but, you know, if you wanna make another $500 month, a month, a month, a month, a month, a month, a month. Yeah, I see a smart move on their part. Yes, I see it brilliant on Amazon. I'm telling you, I mean, it's not for people that are doing it. Yeah, I don't think you're gonna get rich off of doing that. I don't see, even if you had a massive following, the amount of traffic you'd have to be driving to Amazon, I mean, Amazon's't think you're gonna get rich off of doing that. I don't see, even if you had a massive following, the amount of traffic you'd have to be driving to,

Amazon, I mean Amazon's gonna love you. That means they're making a fuck ton of money. If you're making any money on it. No, that's a company man. They're consistently, or just brilliant. And I think that's a brilliant move. No, it is. Cause you get a lot of people are gonna jump on that.

No, very smart. This quaz brought to you by Organify. For those days you fall short on getting your organic veggies or whole food nutrition, going to jump on that. Very smart. to organify.com. That's O-R-G-A-N-I-F-I dot com. And use a coupon code mine pump for 20% off at checkout. First question is from Mitch Lipson. Is it ever appropriate to train certain body parts for strength while training other body parts with higher reps and lower weight or should your whole body be on the same style of training? You can actually do both. So whenever you're training your body, obviously we've talked about this on the show many times, you're sending a signal to your body to adapt and become better at what the signal is saying to do.

Now, there are localized, there is a localized adaptation effect that happens, and then there's a generalized or general effect that happens, and then there's a generalized or general effect that happens in the body. So what does that mean? That means if I train my legs to be strong, but not have a lot of endurance, so be good in the low rep ranges, I'm going to get a lot of that adaptation of my legs, but I'm going to get some adaptation for the rest of my body. If I train my lower body different than my upper body,

I'll get a little bit less of both, but I'll still get a lot of both. So you can do this. Now, if you want to maximize one particular thing, like if you just want to be strong, or you just want to have a lot of endurance, you're probably better off focusing your entire body in that direction.

But you can definitely train one or the other. I mean, they've done studies on this. They'll have someone with the right arm train, low reps, heavy weight, and left arm train, high reps. And what they find is the arm that trains with the high reps gets more endurance, one with the low reps gets more strength. But if you train them both with low reps, both would get more strength. And if you train both with high reps, both would get more endurance than if you had just done

one or the other. Right. Do you guys ever do this yourself? It sounds confusing to me. No, it's just like what are we doing here? It's like what you would do in a workout, which to me this actually happens all the time. It's not like a plan thing. It's just that I'm, you know, sometimes there's exercises that today I really want to train heavy.

It tends to look like this, squatting and deadlifting, right? I'm doing squats or deadlifts and I feel like running singles, doubles, triples, or even like five by five type of a format. But then yet, my arms are due for hypertrophy training. And so in that workout, I'm squatting five reps, but then when I get over to tricep push downs and bicep curls, I'm doing 15 reps. Yeah. So yeah, I could see doing that with arms.

I've been guilty of that. Do that gross motor movements and then like finishing up with some, oh, I gotta get my arms involved and get some hypertrophy. Right. Well, some body parts and exercises also just lend themselves better to different styles of doing. Yes, and that's why I think that's a good point right there.

There's one to two wraps or three wraps or even five wraps for arms. It doesn't lend itself to super well. Right, so that's what I'm saying. Like when I'm running singles, doubles, or triples, and even five by fives for squatting and deadlifting, I don't always mirror that with my arms. Like it just, just to me, it's not as important for me to train. And that's not to say that I don't ever train really heavy bicep curls or skull crushers.

Sure, it's just less frequent that I do that because of the point that sales making is they just, they lend themselves better to, you know, eight reps, 12 reps, 15 reps, super setting type of training and doing, you know, five goal crushers is just not as valuable. Now, is it valuable every once in a while? Sure, maybe every once in a while, but if I'm lifting like that, that's normally when I'm doing things like close grip bench press, I might do five by five with that. Right. Like, that's a good, that's a, that's a upper body'm doing things like close grip bench press. I might do five by five with that. Right. Like that's a good, that's a upper body compound lift, right?

And you'll even know that with core too. Like I would, you train my abs and, you know, train my obliques and everything else and rotational stuff, doing a little bit more of a higher reps sequence to that, just because it lends itself better to that. But there is also value again with dropping the amount of reps in that direction as well. I just wouldn't be more inclined to do that though. I'd be more inclined to do higher reps

with arms or core, for sure. Even in our programs, like if you look at maps and a ball, phase one is the classic low rep phase where you're focusing on kind of low rep, you know, that grinding type of strength. But even there, when you look at the rep recommendations for like deadlifts, they're different than the rep recommendations for curls and for press downs.

Although they're considered low wraps, you're typically doing more wraps for body parts in areas that low, low wraps don't really do well with. And then vice versa, you know, deadlifts, for example, can you do high rep deadlifts? You can. Do they lend themselves well to high reps? No, they don't. The risk of injury with, you know, doing sets of 15 or 20 reps on the deadlift,

it's just really, really high. The fatigue starts to set in. Once your form starts to break down, you know, you tend to injure yourself. Do high rep, you know, snatches and cleans, is that a good idea? Probably not. That's why I don't like sometimes the way

crossfit programs snatches and cleans in these kind of high rep for time, fatigue based type stuff. Like ladders. Yeah, their exercises that once your form breaks down a little bit, you're looking at a high risk of injury. They tend to do better low reps, not maximal effort. You do like three, four reps,

stop, wait a little bit, rest a minute, whatever and do it again. So you can definitely train this way. Now I like to generally though, keep clients in a general phase. I don't like to mix things up too much. And the reason is because I wanna see how the body is responding to this particular

rep range or this phase. I wanna know what I'm doing and how it's working and how it's how the body is responding to this particular rep range or this phase. I want to know what I'm doing and how it's working and how it's affecting the body. When I throw everything in the kitchen sink at the body, it's hard for me to decide for what's working where and how it's working. So when I face people, it's typically generally speaking, we're going to be in a phase of heavy training or we're going to be in a phase of higher rep training or we're going to be in a mobility phase rather than mixing everything up so that today is low reps on this and higher reps here. Well, that's just for teaching purposes.

And so I mean, and this is where I like using my sport analogies where you're training any sport, I like using basketball because I feel like there's so many different like moves on the court and learning like a skill, like a crossover. It's a very valuable thing and can be thrown into the game, in the game and make sense. But you wanna practice that by itself, get really good at it, and then you learn to integrate it into the flow of the game.

And so goes sort of a dunk or some sort of a spin move. Like all these moves that you learn to do, like you wanna isolate it first, you wanna practice it, you wanna get good at it, you want to see the results that it gives you, and then you integrate it into the big picture of the game, right? So I think the same way with when we're learning like ways of training like this, like absolutely,

you can have half of your exercises, high rep, the other low rep, but there's value to phasing it first so you can see how your body responds to it, what lends itself well, and then once you get the hang of that, and you understand that now, okay, now let's take some principles that I've learned from all this and learn how to integrate it into everyday life. Next question is from Ty Domingo.

What is your opinion on weight watchers? You know, when clients would go on weight watchers and come back and explain to me kind of the breakdown, the point system, what not. To me, it seems like a more simplified, an easier to follow version than counting macros and calories. I think they've done a very good job with that. It's absolutely brilliant.

It's absolutely, and what it highlights and its simplicity is that this just shows you that a majority of people over consume under report and they have simplified that process better than anybody. It's the reason why they're one of the best at it. They were one of the best at taking something that it seems to be really complex for the average person and simplifying the shit out of it that makes it so easy that all people have to do is know if it falls in this category,

it's three points, it falls in this category, it's two points, it's this one, I can have a total of 27 points a day, and so as long as I stay at my number or lower, I'm going to lose weight. They've nailed their demographic. Yeah, in terms of like people who have been eating just processed food and shit forever, and to get them to be able to then transition

into a better healthier way to kind of at least start to address their food intake. That's like, you know, it's a great bridge to get them on a better path, but from there, that's where I start to have issues. Oh, I have a lot of issues with it. I think it's fucking terrible. I just, but I think it's brilliant at the same time.

So that's, I mean, there's difference when I, when I say brilliant, I think of the business side. Yeah. Brilliant from the way they've created, the way they structured it, they've hit the masses. For a consumer, they've made it super easy. Right. Now for the client, here's the problem with it,

is when all you're looking at, it's like, it's an even worse version of IIFYM. That's what it is. Yeah, what can I fit my point? Right, at least IIFYM. That's what it is. Yeah, what can I fit my point? Right, at least IIFYM makes you count proteins, fats, and carbs, like they don't even, in fiber, like they tell you to pay attention to, but they don't even tell you to pay attention to that way.

Well, they're starting to, they're starting to emphasize on you wanna eat these, you wanna eat that, but you're right, they simplify it so much that what people end up doing is... Yeah, what people, here's, let me tell you, I don't care what they're presenting and saying just like IFIM, because this is what happens, just like the same thing. I don't care what they're presenting. I care about what the majority and how they use it, which I have the experience in.

I've had the clients that follow IFIM, I've had the clients that follow Weight Watchers, and what a majority of them do is they know their point system, they know what they can be at 27, whatever the number is, and as long as they're under that, they're good. And so what ends up happening is they find these treats and things they love that are high on the points, but they can find a way to fit it in there. And they watchers makes a lot of them.

Yeah, you know, they make a lot of these treats that, oh, this is only three points, you can eat this and we made this bar, that's whatever. No, I get it. And here's the thing, I think it's a good stepping stone I really do. I think it's a good stepping stone because it simplifies Understanding caloric and take energy, you know energy expenditure. So

Teaching a client to count macros and calories. It can be more difficult. There's you have to count three macros Proteins fats and carbohydrates, right? With points. It's general. It's easy very easy to follow but don't get stuck there if you get stuck there I mean you're gonna have to just like having to count calories your entire life You have to count points for the rest of your life. How is that a long-term approach? It's not at some point you you want to get to the place where you go about your day and you just eat and you make good choices because you want to make good choices. Now it sounds easy but it's not.

It's hard to get there. There are stepping stones to get there. But if you get stuck in this Weight Watchers point system or counting macros, that is not a good place to be. It's not a long-term approach. It's actually quite stressful to stay there all the time. Where you're always adding things up, you're always counting, you're always watching what you eat from that type of a perspective. It's not very good. It's funny, I do these sales trainings and presentations for trainers, and I talk about the four stages of learning. In order

to communicate it well to the trainers, I talk about nutrition because when you're talking about sales to trainers, oftentimes they don't want to hear it. But, I talk about nutrition because when you're talking about sales to trainers, oftentimes they don't wanna hear it. But if you talk about nutrition or training, they're all open, they wanna hear what you have to say. And when you're teaching a client about nutrition, you have to take them through the four steps or the four stages of learning. The first stage is where most people are,

which is unconscious incompetence. They just don't know that they don't know. And this is where a lot of us were when we first started looking at our nutrition, we just didn't know what we didn't know. Then once you start to dive in a little bit, you realize, oh my gosh, there's a lot of things I don't know. I don't know much about protein and what has protein in it.

I don't know much about carbohydrates and what has carbohydrates or fats or micronutrients or any of that. So then you move to the second stage, which is unconscious competence your your or excuse me conscious incompetence. You're aware that you don't know things. You're just now now you're there like okay I don't know things. I know I don't know things. I need something to teach me how to move on Then you get to stage three, which is conscious competence, which is weight watchers now conscious competence is

three, which is conscious competence, which is weight watchers. Now conscious competence is consciously being aware of the things that you're trying to do. But if you get stuck there, that's a terrible place to live because you don't, you never get to the fourth stage, which is unconscious competence. So when we think about things that we do unconsciously, that were competent at breathing, walking, talking, those are all things that we're competent at doing, but we don't have to sit there and figure out, like, imagine if you had to think about walking every time you walked, it would be very robotic and very difficult, or if you had to think about breathing every time you took a breath. Well, if you have to think about your nutrition, every single time you take a bite where I need to figure out the calories, the macros, the points, whatever, that's a very stressful place to be.

You'll never get to the fourth stage. So I like Weight Watchers as a stepping stone, but it's not a destination. If you get stuck there, you're going to be, it's not long-term. And I'm pretty sure the statistics will show. It helps people lose weight, but how many people stay there long-term and forever? I think it's not that good. Next question is from, honestly, Haley, how would you apply your maps programs to children or teens?

It's been a while since we've talked about this, like which programs that we have that it would lend them the self best to teens, cause starter, right? Starter, prime or yeah, even anywhere. I'd say anywhere too. Yeah, starter and anywhere would be the best. Starter in particular, because starter has dumbbells in it.

And you know, a physioball, it teaches them basic resistance training exercises and techniques. I think it would be the most appropriate for children or for teens. It doesn't require a lot of equipment. I think you just need a physioball and dumbbells, right? And body. For these days too, with postural issues

and just day-to-day things where kids now are just on their phones and they're on their iPads and like sitting a lot more or not doing any kind of free play outside. This is where I wanna check that with Prime and see like, you know, what I'm working with and mechanically and how I can then take that and build something upon it.

Now that being said, I mean, technically the kids could go through everything, right? I know they can do it totally. Right. So I think starter and anywhere are great places to start them at and see. And the thing that you're watching for if you're a parent and you're taking your kids through is their mechanics, right? Like you, you, if your kid is all over the place, which is more common than not. So I think that's the important thing to understand here is that, you know, at that age, there's

still learning proprioception. Like to understanding how to control their body in space is. Yeah, you have a kid doing overhead dumbbell press. Yeah, you had to stand there so they don't drop it on their own head. Yeah, they're all, right. They're all exactly. It's not a, it's not a strength thing. It's them, them understanding had a move in space. Like they're all exactly. It's not a strength thing. It's them understanding. Had a move in space. Like they're still learning that. It reminds me of like when you first get a dog, and dogs grow real fast.

Yeah, they're clumsy. Yeah, so like a year old dog is like pretty damn big, but they're big old clumsy puppies. That's what it's like with kids and teenagers. It's just not aware of their bodies and you hand them weights, tell them to do a bench press, even if they can handle a weight, it's like the barrel wants to fly a little bit.

Right, so that's why I weighed on the weights and you know, until they, yeah, they do get that body awareness and they've really established the, you know, that they know where they are in space. They know like how to grip hard, they know how to tighten certain areas of their body. That's all super important. Now some kids get this.

And to me, like, I don't know, I guess the trainer of me, it's really obvious when I see this. Now some kids get this. And to me, I don't know, I guess the trainer, I mean, it's really obvious when I see this. And I can even see this in kids sports. I can see a kid who's playing, you know, a 10 year old kid who's playing in sports. And I could tell you if I could take that kid and I could take him in the gym and train him

like a real athlete, just by the way, he moves on the soccer field or on the basketball field. You can just tell by the way, they're awareness. They're awareness in space is very controlled and it has intent, every move they get left right versus the kid who's kind of like Sal saying, kind of moving like the puppy, stumble in its way. That kid is going to reflect the same way inside the gym.

He's still learning how to move in space correctly. That kid, I'm for sure spending a lot of time and starter in anywhere to get that foundation laid. But if you got a kid who is just like, you could show them a move and it's like precise and the way they move is looks more like an adult athlete or like a young adult athlete. Man, that kid could probably pick things up

in the gym really quick and could be running through anabolic performance and a lot of the programs and could be lifting weights normal. You see these but they're rare. You do. So I just thought to enjoy, those are my second favorite demographic with training kids and teens. The biggest issue was really this was if a kid shows interest in something, you don't need

to push them to do anything and it's easy. It's when the kids don't show any interest, which is most of the time. It's quite rare for a kid or a teen or a young teen to be like, I wanna lift weights, I wanna work on the gym. For the vast majority of them think it's totally boring. Now there was one, I remember one kid, when I had my studio, it was next to this coffee shop

that sold breakfast, and I made breakfast a lot of stuff. And the owner's kid was this little guy, he liked to skateboard, but he would always, when I would do my workout at noon, because I just work out at noon over there, he'd always stop and stare through the window. And he was like, I don't know, 10 years old and he'd watch and just watch. And I remember thinking to myself, like, I bet this kid is like into like, he wants, because he was kind of a small kid. I'm like, I bet he thinks about trying to build muscle

and get stronger. So one day I went out there, I'm like, you want to come inside and watch? And he's like, yeah, and he's the son of the owner of next door. He was super into it. Now this kid started working out all on his own, his own, he was super into it wherever,

that's super rare. Most kids, they come in, they don't want to work out. So one of the biggest keys to getting these kids to work out is to kind of make it short and enjoyable. You want to create, basically what I was trying to do, more than trying to get this kid to become super strong or super athletic, my goal was to develop a good relationship with the gym.

Like if I could get this kid to enjoy showing up to come work out with me and have a good relationship with it, the odds that they'll choose to exercise as adults is much higher. Just like anything when you're a kid. If you have a good experience doing anything as a kid, when you become an adult, this is why I like a lot of friends that I have, for example, I have friends that grew up in religious households where they prayed before dinner, but they had a good relationship. And then as they grew up, they stopped doing it,

but then they had kids, and they had a good relationship with it. And so they started doing it again themselves. I'm thinking when I'm training these kids, my goal is to create a really good relationship with the exercise. They enjoy it in here. We have a lot of fun.

We do exercises that are challenging, but I'm making it enjoyable. Then the odds of them doing it long-term, or rather than what I think a lot of people do, and you see this especially with dads, is they'll get their sons or daughters, and they'll like make them work out and do it and fuck it. And then forget it, that kid's not gonna wanna work out.

Yeah, I go back and forth with it, because I personally don't like giving kids a lot of structure in terms of like, you know, a whole workout plan and protocol I don't like giving kids a lot of structure in terms of like, a whole workout plan and protocol where they have to do these certain exercises. I pretty much, when I used to train kids too, it was based off of what was interesting for that day,

and then we would go through and I'd teach them certain things they wanted to learn. And even if, I mean, it was all about like trying to convey the best mechanics in those movements, but also trying to find what really drove them, whether it was climbing, whether it was pulling something, pushing something, trying to find those opportunities to reinforce like you're seeing,

like a good relationship with those exercises, but also just exposing them to more options. Like there's all kinds of different movements out there. There's all kinds of different sports, different ways you can remain active. And that's really what is the most necessary, you know, for those crucial stages, all the way through, you know, childhood into teens.

And then we start specializing, we start honing in on those things and really you know, train with more of a laser focus. Yeah and there's a lot of myths around training kids too. Like there's a myth that it just won't die. It needs to die that lifting weights will stunt a child's growth. Right.

And this was based off of that, you know, children have growth plates in between their bones and if you damage the growth plate, the bone won't grow anymore. The amount of weight enforced that would be that's required to damage the growth plate, the bone won't grow anymore. The amount of weight enforced that would be required to damage these growth plates is far higher than the strength that the child will possess. So, you don't need to be doing PRs with your 10-year-old. Even if they did, they wouldn't be strong enough to lift something that would damage them enough to cause a stunting growth. So, no, your kids not going to stun their growth, they're not going to become tighter, they're

not going to do anything. If they train properly, all benefits, that's all they're gonna see is benefits. There's no negatives at all, if everything's done appropriately. Next question is from the Maple Leaf Man. How did each of you meet your partners? And how has your impression of them changed

from when you met them to now? Hmm, how did we meet our partners? They're talking about business partners are personal. No, I think personal. I know. We've told our stories that we've met a million times. Katrina and I have kind of a funny story on how we met. She was actually dating or seeing one of my trainers.

So that's the very first time I even met her or knew who she was. Yeah, would you steal her from the trainer? No, I didn't. No, it wasn't until way. It was like, it was like, I was like over a year with her. Because at that time, I had a girlfriend and I saw her like maybe two times come in

and she was, and this was actually a good trainer friend of mine and said nothing, but incredible things about her. He was also between another, he ended up marrying the other girl that he was, he was talking to back and forth. And so it worked out the way it was supposed to for him. But I remember him always really, really saying, speaking highly of her. Now she would, he would recommend it to her to me business first. So I had a girlfriend at that time. He wasn't dating her anymore, but he had, I'd met her before and he said she has

a massage business and a massage school. And they, if she can't help you, then she'll know who can help you. And at that time, I was running the medical marijuana clubs. And we were looking for a service where a, you know, massage clinic person would come in and do like a chair massage for my people waiting a lot, but we were getting so much traffic that I always had like 10 people waiting in the lobby to come in. And so we were trying to think of ways to make it more enjoyable. Yeah, they get enjoyable. Yeah.

So, and this is actually how I got into vending machines. I also had like soda machines that were in there so they could drink sodas and they can get massages. And that was just kind of like another way that I was monetizing. So I reach out to her, we meet and we start business together. So basically I had contracted her out for the two facilities that I was running and they would come in every Friday

and they would do share massages all day long for our clients. So it was great, it was great for our business, it was a great relationship with her and I. That's how we met. And she was in a relationship at that time. I was in a relationship with her. So it was completely business. And-

Now, are there any sparks in your attraction? Not really. Surely business. Yeah, not really to be honest. What I, and this is what's so unique about Katrina is, I fell in love with her reverse of how I've fallen in love or you know, dated in the past, which you know, a lot of times many of the relationships have been very superficial.

I see someone who's gorgeous, beautiful, then I talk to them and then I end up liking who they are and then it works out. She was the opposite. Like I was looking for anybody. I wasn't looking at her in that way. Business we were meeting and I'm like, man, I really like this girl, like just as a person. And so we became really close.

I'd share actually a lot of stuff going on in my relationship at the time and she would share stuff, was going on in her relationship and we had this really cool platonic relationship. I shared a lot about what I was reading at that time. So I know she was kind of scaling her business. I was scaling the business that I was doing.

Now, did she like you? And now that you obviously guys are together and she ever tell you that she liked you back into? No, in fact, she used to talk about, so I guess all the massage girls would fight over who would get to massage. So part of the deal that I worked out, that I got a massage.

I got massages every week, right? So, of course, that's part of the deal was that. And there's quite a few that massage therapists have worked there. And she later on is telling me this that, oh yeah, the girls used to all, I'm gonna massage them. No, let me massage them. They would fight over who gets the massage me type of deal. And she would always be like,

I can't leave you guys there into him. He's like, she would talk shit. Like, yeah, yeah, she would talk shit, right? So she wasn't even, so she, that's what she claims, right? So she claims that she, and then she never massage me. So she was always the boss, right? So she was never massaging me. It was always the people that were for, but that was like what was said from her. So she really wasn't looking that way at all. And it just kind of all played

out where I ended up my, our relationship ended, the one that I was in after two years. And she was coming out of a relationship at the same time. And I invited her out to something. And she hates that I tell this fucking story. But it really, it does. For me, it was one of the most impressionable times ever as far as a woman making an impression on me, like first time going out or hanging out.

And we had just had a milestone in the business and Sal, I was salm, Mark and I, we're going to take the limo out. And we're gonna take the limo to San Francisco. We had got a bottle service already lined up. And I think we've run it two tables up there, or reserve two tables. And so we are, and this limo is a 20% limo.

So we're like, okay, we're gonna load the limo up and we're gonna head up for a good time. And of course, the goal of marketing is to load the limo up with mostly girls and then myself and him, right? And so we do that. And I go, you know what? Like, good odds.

I'm gonna invite Katrina. But I really liked her and I had a lot of respect for her. And when I invited her, I wanted her to know that I also invited two other girls that I knew liked me and liked me a lot and were coming after me. And I hadn't done anything with either one of them, but I knew that they for sure would say you set yourself up like the bachelor totally right. You guys at all fight I know and I give you the rose as doosh baggy as it probably sounds to a lot of girls that are probably rolling their eyes right now It was a very memorable moment for me because for me that I went into that night

Just wanted to have a good time and I'm also a guy who's a comfortable and being in situations like that Or it's just like hey, I'm being very upfront and honest with everybody and I'm just one have good time We're taking care of everybody who's coming out like there's no expectations on my part. But I'm bringing Katrina along and I know I'm bringing her into this situation and most of the other girls all kind of know each other. So Katrina doesn't know anybody. And I invite her, but when I invite her, I tell her and I say, hey, you know, I want to know if you want to come out. We're going to San Francisco this that she's like, oh, wow, sounds like a great time. Like, yeah, I'm in. And I said, hey, I need to tell you though that I am I know if you want to come out, we're going to San Francisco this time. She's like, oh wow, sounds like a great time. Like yeah, I'm in.

And I said, hey, I need to tell you though, that I am inviting you to come with me and I would love for you to have a good time. But I'm also inviting some other girls. I know there's two girls that are there. I know both those girls are interested in me and that you'll be in a situation like that. Are you okay with that?

And she kind of laughed. And she didn't say anything and then she goes, why did you tell me that? I said, I don't know, I just have a, I respect you and I didn't want you to be uncomfortable and I didn't want that to happen. I'd rather just be upfront about the situation of walking in and she just didn't say anything.

And then that night we went out and what happened, or what I expected to happen did, which was the two other girls were very aggressive. They were always all over me and stuff. And Katrina didn't ever let it bother her. She would dance with me for a while and then go off and do her own thing. And the other girls would be dance with me. And we were in the limo and the other chicks are hanging all over me.

And Katrina's talking to everybody else, including them inside there. And I was just so intrigued by her and by that that she could be in an environment like that and not allow and you know some some girls like try to to put a front on like they're all confident like that but you could always still feel it. Oh yeah, I would be cool. I'd be cool with that. But then you could still see the way they act. They still those they'll play the game like hard to get or acting like it doesn't bother them but really bothers them. Like, no, Katrina was talking to the girls hanging on to me.

She was talking to other people. She was doing her own thing. When she was talking to me, she was being normal. And it was such an attractive quality about her that it made me ask her out again. And then the rest is history, but that's how we met. And she hates that I share until that story. But it's true. It's what made me really fall for her because she hates that I share until that story, but it's true. It's what made me really fall for her

because I thought that was so attractive that I could. It was her confidence. Right, right. It was so unbelievably confident. Totally. Yeah, I'll go ahead. Yes, fine. Follow that one up.

Yeah, I met Courtney. She was actually, I think, my fourth or fifth cold call. And I would, I mean, it's something you cold, cold, girlfriend. I do that. Hey, you want to be a my girlfriend? Yeah, cool.

Would you marry me? Yeah, yeah. Wow, it worked. The fifth time. No, there was this log at the gym. And I was a brand new trainer. I don't, I think I'd been there for maybe like a year. And then, no, probably less than that because I got right to the phones to try and get,

build up my clientele. And so anyways, I caught her. She was like in the middle of like shopping for something like some like men's warehouse, for some coat, for her job, whatever. Anyways, I got her in. And I mean, there was an there was an immediate attraction on my end, not nothing from her. So that was that was

interesting to me. So right away, I was like, I was a pretty confident guy. Like I, you know, I had had dated, you know, in the past, like, she kind of fit my profile in terms of like blonde, hot, you know, my, my, my type. Anyways. And so I was like trying to like throw my game at her and everything and nothing back. And I mean, granted, this is the time period where I came back from Chicago. And I was like a little fluff, you know, I was, I was not like at my best physical condition. And I was bending over to grab some form and come back and try and do this whole thing. We're like, hey, you have five sessions,

you don't even want to work these out there. And I guess I was totally sporting butt crack. And she saw that, it was like, oh, I broke the cake, it's older. It's so, she has this vivid memory of me bending over. She's like, ah, you know, like like a disgust, right? And so anyways, I somehow close around like coming in and like working with me.

And you know, we had this like funny rapport. Like she's just very sarcastic and she could like, she can take a joke and she's just, anyway, like I just had this very attractive quality where you know, I could talk shit with her the whole time we were training and she would refuse to do certain exercises and it threw me off and I'm like, what? She's like, no, I don't jump.

No, come up with something else. She would say shit like that. And I would give her this whole meal plan. I spent hours a couple of days because I was like, I gotta show this girl. I'm the best trainer ever. I put all this work into it. And then she's just like, I'm not gonna stick with this.

This is stupid. She threw in the garbage. Yes, dude, she was totally, she was like spicy. And I was like, oh, what is with this girl? What's her problem? And so I guess I love her. Yeah, I was just like really, she just consumed my thought, you know?

And she at the time was dating this guy who was just some guy who wasn't treating her very well and all that and I was like, and so, and she would talk about it every now and then about how she couldn't go out, she couldn't do all these things. Like he was very like, you know, would manage and watch everything she did. And she, like, she wasn't even supposed to be training with a guy. Like, this is how controlling this guy was. And so in her phone, she had me as Justina. And so that was like the code. I was Justina forever in her phone when I would call her

and text and see where she was for appointments. But I kept resigning her and we kept this thing going for quite a bit. And then it became a thing where I was like, okay, this is getting unprofessional. Like I have feelings for this girl, whatever. And so I ended up passing her along to another trainer of this girl that was working there just so I could watch and monitor a little bit, you know, those you still in house. And so it was just one of those things where I just, I was like, I just was so confident at some point it was gonna work out. You know, I just, I was just adamant that this is the one,

I don't know what it was. How was the first day? How did you ask her out in the first day? I asked her out in like a billion times. Like I was just, I was like shameless about it. Like I was funny because we were were resigning for one time and she was going up to the counter and we were like, we just closed the deal and we're coming up there. I'm like, we should just go get launch right now. Where are you going? Where are

you going? And she's like, I can't do that. I have a boyfriend. And she's like, leave. And I was like, that's not, that's never gonna last. You know? And I would just kept throwing it at her like, skeets, you know, and like, anyways, it just wore down. Yeah, it's worn down after a while. And I ended up dating somebody else

and I was dating a few other girls like, just because I was just, I was so obsessed with her that I had to like, like, go somewhere else and like, do just like, just get this out of my head. And I was dating this girl at the time and I was actually at this girl's house and then I get a text message like, hey, what are you doing right now?

We should hang out or whatever. And I'm like, what? Where have you been? And it became a thing where I tried to play hard to get at that point and I was throwing it back at her and it was this weird like back and forth. And then I finally solidified a date and what do we go see?

We go see what's that one horror movie? The one Hills Have Eyes? That's the movie you took the Hills Have Eyes. Was our first date. And it was like the worst. Like that's like mutants. Like there's like mutants like raping each other. And it was like awful. I wanted to walk out but I agree with your first date

So yeah, that was her idea too, so I threw that back at her But yeah, it was it was this really funny kind of dynamic we had and what did you kiss her under first date? Or did you have to get with it? Yeah, I did I did it. Yeah, good for you. Yeah Yeah, like you've been working for a year trust me that was like the golden goose, you know It's like you worked down. Yeah, come on. You've been working for a year. Trust me, that was like the Golden Goose, you know? I was like, I'm just, you wore it down. Yeah, yeah, broke it down. But then she ghosted me for a few weeks after that. And because I guess you're still tying things up

with the Rex Boyfriend or whatever, and I found this out later. I get your CDs back. Yeah, so anyway. But yeah, then I finally won her over completely and the rest is history, but it was just, it was a really funny dynamic that we had, you know, the entire time where I was so confident that I was, it was going to be a thing. I didn't even think twice about it.

Wow, that's a great story. All right, so the first time I met Jessica, so this is after I had sold my studio, we were doing mine pump and we had all decided we're gonna do mine pump full time. And so I was in the process of transitioning full time. The first thing I had to do was sell my studio. And then the second thing I had to do was transition on my long term clients. Many of them were with me for 12, 13 years

off to new trainers or whatever. So I was still training people at my old studio, but I had sold it to another trainer. So I'm still training people there. And this is also the tail end of my marriage. We, at the time, my wife, I knew we were done. We'd known we were done probably for, I don't know, a few years before this period of time. So it's been, and that's the thing, long-term marriages when people finally make the, like, get divorced, it's, you're looking at five years worth of work till you get to that point. And we were pretty much done.

I'm like, I'm gonna leave when we're not gonna, you know, we're gonna try and make this work apart or whatever. So I'm training clients doing my pump, my wife and I are pretty much separated at this point. And the new trainer that owns the gym brings on new trainers, right? Cause she's trying to fill it up with new bodies

or whatever to build business. And I come in one day and there's this girl sitting at the front desk, reading intently. And I don't remember what book she was reading, but it was something obscure. And she had glasses on and she's kind of reading. And so that, right away I'm kind of intrigued. Like, who's this new person?

And what's this big book that she's reading? Yeah, so. It's not like, okay magazine. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? It's like a scientific journal. So I'm like, I'm like, hey, so I introduced myself and I say,

sorry, sorry. Oh my gosh, I'm sorry. She's a psychrovenient. So I'm like, hey, I'm like, hey, you know, and you know, what's your name? My name is Sal, whatever, and she, you know, she introduces herself. And now at this point, because I'm already in the process of, you know, separation

and getting a divorce, I honestly, and here's the funny thing, the three, four years leading up into this point, I would fantasize about being divorced and then being a bachelor. Like, oh, I'm gonna date all these women. I'm gonna be on my own. Like, this is whatever, I'm gonna be free.

You hang out with Dan Bill's area. Yeah, but the reality is, once you start to go through that process, at least for me. You're so exhausted, you don't wanna do anything anything. I don't want to get you out. Dating somebody was the last thing on my mind. I don't care who you are, whatever you could have thrown women at me, I would have, I just had no interest. It was very difficult depressing time for me, it almost destroyed me. So I had no interest at all. And so I meet Jessica for the first time. Now,

looking back, I can totally acknowledge that I thought she was absolutely stunning. I think she's absolutely gorgeous, but I couldn't acknowledge it. I wasn't in that space. So I just remember meeting her and immediately just being intrigued by her. So after I would train my sessions, she would be in there sometimes reading

or she'd be outside trying to talk to potential clients or whatever. And then I walk up to her and, and, and, I think I was having a conversation with one of my clients about nutrition and she would kind of, she kind of overheard it. My client leaves and she starts to debate me about nutrition. I think it was about carbs and her,

her and I are going back and forth. And this girl was like, I mean, she was very strong with her opinion and very, she was debating in a very intelligent way, but not backing down. And I'm a very confident kind of overpowering person. So we're going back and forth. And I remember after we were done, I'm like, man, you're very opinionated. And she got offended by that. Like, excuse me. And I'm like, no, no, that's a good thing. I said, you have strong opinions. I like the way you were arguing your side. I said, I think I'm right. But I think you were arguing your side. I said, I think I'm right, but I think we're,

you were arguing your side. She thought I was like total cocky, right? So then I took her phone and I'm like, you should listen to my podcast. I said, let me see your phone. So she give me your phone. I take her phone from her hand and I automatically subscribe her to my pump.

This was actually my strategy. This was what we were all doing back then. I remember that we're starting out. This was my strategy. It's how we got people to listen. I almost forgot that we used to do this. But back at least I'm holding each other accountable. That when you go work out, your job was to grab five phones

and put them on my pump. And subscribe them. So I did that. I took her phone and I subscribed her to Mind Pump. And I'm like, check out my podcast. So she started listening to Mind Pump and she became a fan. She really liked what we talked about.

And so when she would be in the gym, I would just talk to her here and there, whatever. So this is maybe like, maybe a month, a month into knowing her or whatever. We weren't like super good friends. She would text me every once in a while, a question about exercise or like what's going on in the studio tomorrow, but nothing major.

Like again, remember my mental state is I had no intentions of talking anybody or anything. So then fast forward, I finally we make the decision, I move out, I move out of the house, we're totally done, and I come to the studio, and I don't remember what I came to the studio for, but it was late at night, I was staying with my brother at the time,

and Jessica just happened to end to date. So she came off a date. And for some reason, and I asked her about this now, and she said, she didn't know. She just wanted to stop by the studio to see if anyone was there. It was like nine o'clock at night. So she comes in, I'm there.

And the first thing I tell her is like, well, I just, I just, and she didn't know that I would had all these troubles beforehand, because I didn't know her well enough. It wasn't like I shared my life with her, and like that. So I told her, I said, oh, I I didn't know her well enough. It wasn't like I shared my life with her and like that. So I told her, I said, it's crazy, you just came in here,

I said, I literally just left my house, I said, we're getting a divorce or whatever. So I said, oh my, so we had this great conversation. But again, it was totally mutual, we're just friends. And so from that point on, she would come into the gym and she asked me if she could watch me train people and ask questions And I said absolutely because she wanted to learn to be a new trainer

I had now built that Authority because she had listened to the podcast so she thought to herself she could learn some things And so what ended up happening is she would stay there all day while I had training clients and I'd find myself magnetized to this woman and again, I'm not acknowledging what it is I just know that I want to talk to her all the time. So then maybe I don't know a few weeks into that. I met my brother's house and I invite the owner of the studio and Jessica over to hang out with my brother and it was gonna be this totally mutual thing. The owner of the studio she had her partner, her girlfriend, long term.

I'm friends with them. Jessica and I, totally platonic. So I invited them over. Well, last minute, the owner of the studio flaked, couldn't come. So Jessica and I are on tax and she's like, hey, Megan says she can't make it anymore. I'm like, ah, well, that kind of sucks. I'm like, well, if you want, you can come over. Anyway, she's like, all right it anymore. I'm like, ah, well, that kind of sucks. I'm like, well, if you want, you can come over.

Anyway, she's like, all right, cool, I'll come over. So she comes over and she's hanging out with my brother and I and we're just chilling there and we're getting into, we're having the surface level conversation that I fucking hate and it real quick got deep. Like right away we're talking about crazy shit, get real deep about all kinds of different subjects.

My brother's like, it was funny because he was getting in the conversation, but immediately I think he could tell that he wasn't in the conversation anymore, it was just her and I. So he just like, yeah, I know he just went off and started watching TV or whatever. And her and I are just having this crazy conversation.

Next thing I know, it's like three o'clock in the morning, my brother's asleep, he went to bed, and her and I are just, she's sitting on the couch, and I'm having this really deep conversation, and I'm asking her, like, what would you, like, how did you grow up, and what would you do if you had all the money in the world, and she asked me, what would you do if you had all the money in the world, and I said, oh, well, gosh, you know, I've had these ideas for these nonprofit organizations, she's like me too. And we start again. And then right away, I first acknowledged, oh shit, I like this girl. Like, like, at three o'clock in the morning,

I've been talking to her for five hours. I'm super, super into her. And then I acknowledged it for the first time. Like, oh shit, I like her. I stopped right there. And then I said something like, oh, I should go to bed, because I did not want to get into any kind of relationship with anybody. I was just got divorced, like, fuck no, I'm not in that space. So she leaves and I'm laid there in bed

and I literally thought about her the entire time and I thought to myself like, I'm not gonna text her anymore. I can't, I can't be in the situation. So I try to sleep, try to sleep, 8 a.m. I get up, I look at my phone and she texted me. And she was just like, hey, you know, that was nice hanging out, whatever. So then from that day on, we just kind of held out. And then there was one period where we went on a date, this was maybe like a few days later, we went on a date to a restaurant and we're sitting there talking.

And I think that's when she realized because she was also in that same position. She didn't want to date anybody, she didn't want to go out with anybody, she had just gotten divorced a couple years earlier, but we're sitting there and I think she got kind of weird for a second and she's like, we're just friends, right?

And I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, we're just friends. No, we weren't just friends. That was it. I mean, that was it. Like we were completely enamored with each, and I'd never experienced anything. It was like being on the craziest drug I've ever been on. Do you remember the first time that you admitted to her

and told her that you liked her? Oh my God, it was like, I had, at that point, I had felt like this ridiculous magnetism tour. And I think we're at my brother's house. This was after we had that date and we're sitting there and we're talking and I'm like, and I told her, I'm like, I have to be honest with you, I'm like, just magnetized to you. I don't know what it is. I'm just so incredibly attracted to you. And I said, but it's more than just, I think you're attractive. I'm just very attractive. I very very honest and she said the same thing back to me and it was just this

super powerful powerful thing That I couldn't overcome and that was it and and and and it was at that point that I could finally allow myself to acknowledge That I was all the things physically attracted to or mentally stim stimulated by it or like everything. And then it was just fucking fire from there. And like I said, it was like a drug. It was crazy. We would literally lay in bed next to each other and we'd look at each other and just talk and we'd do it for, I wasn't sleeping.

It was no sleep. It was like I was up all night and then I'd come and we'd record podcasts and I was just in this crazy, crazy state. And it's been awesome. But the circumstances that surround our relationship were far from perfect. I was just in this crazy, crazy state and it's been awesome. But the circumstances that surround our relationship were far from perfect. I was just getting divorced. She had to then learn how to live with kids, part time and all that stuff,

but it's been awesome ever since. But at that point, and I told her this many times, I know what they write songs about now. I remember telling her that many times. When people write songs about falling in love, and I said, listen to them. I know what they mean now. I remember telling her that many times, like when people write songs about falling in love and I said listen to them. I know what they mean now, you know what I mean? Really crazy. That's the lie right there. Yeah, that's it. And with that you can find all of our guys, all of our free guides at mindpumpfree.com. We have a new guide on there. It's a hard gainer guide.

If somebody that struggles with building muscle and putting on weight, you wanna read this guide, it's free, but it'll instruct you on what you need to do to get your body progressing in the muscle building arena. You can also find us all on Instagram. You can find Justin at Minepump Justin. You can find me at MinepumpSal and Adam at MinepumpAtom. Thank you for listening to Mind Pump.

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