Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1101: Budget Sleep Hacks, Favorite Row Variations for Strength & Muscle Growth, Characteristics of People Who Adhere to Their Fitness & Health Goals & MORE

Episode Date: August 21, 2019

In this episode of Quah, sponsored by Organifi (organifi.com/mindpump, code "mindpump" for 20% off), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about favorite row variations for strength and hypert...rophy, characteristics or qualities that separate people who adhere to their fitness goals and health behaviors compared to those who don’t, the best investments to make to “sleep hack” on a budget, and influencers promoting an "all in" diet approach. Sal recaps his grandfather's 88th birthday: Large family gatherings, nootropics & MORE. (5:14) Will taxing red meat save lives and slow global warming?? The importance of looking at the whole picture. (12:02) Harvard Medical School receives $9M dollar donation to support independent research on the science of cannabinoids. Guys’ talk the benefits and let you know the best products to use. (19:52) Does fatherhood change your brain? New study + the latest updates from Adam on baby Maximus. (26:53) How Disneyworld still has a nuclear permit to build a plant. (41:36) The scam and hustle behind free car giveaways & MORE. (43:27) Mind Pump Live & Mike Matthews: Get your tickets NOW to pick his business brain! (46:21) #Quah question #1 – What are your favorite row variations for strength, hypertrophy, etc.? (49:31) #Quah question #2 – What characteristics or qualities do you think separate people who adhere to their fitness goals and health behaviors compared to those who don’t? Did you ever notice common traits in the clients you trained? (58:53) #Quah question #3 – For people trying to sleep hack on a budget, what are the best investments to make? (1:07:13) #Quah question #4 – I've been seeing a lot of this “all in” approach. Influencers are claiming they're doing it to gain control over extreme hunger and eventually get their body to a plateau to where their body is supposed to be naturally. (1:15:09) People Mentioned  Robb Wolf (@dasrobbwolf)  Instagram Brendon Ayanbadejo (@brendon310)  Instagram Max Lugavere (@maxlugavere)  Instagram Mike Matthews (@muscleforlifefitness)  Instagram Ben Pakulski (@bpakfitness)  Instagram Tom Bilyeu (@tombilyeu)  Instagram Bedros Keuilian (@bedroskeuilian)  Instagram Christina Rice, NTP (@christinaricewellness)  Instagram   Related Links/Products Mentioned August Promotion: MAPS Prime/Prime Pro ½ off!! **Code “PRIME50” at checkout** Visit Four Sigmatic for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code “mindpump” at checkout** Governments around the world are considering taxing red meat like tobacco in an effort to curb climate change $9 million donation earmarked for cannabis research Visit NED for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Fatherhood changes men's brains and minds, studies show How Becoming a Father Changes Your Brain Visit ChiliPad for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code “MPOOLER” at checkout** Disney World Could Have Gone Nuclear "We entered a free car giveaway — and, uh…" - The Hustle Check out Mind Pump Live to get tickets for their next live event! Mind Pump TV - YouTube Power Sled Pull – Mind Pump TV How To T-Bar Row The Right Way! (BACK BUILDER!) Visit Felix Gray for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Visit Joovv for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! influencers are losing their influence Instagram influencer engagement hovers near all-time lows, study says Mind Pump Free Resources

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Starting point is 00:00:43 so they can make more money. That's true, true story. Now the best lion's mane that I found comes from four sigmatic, four sigmatic is one of our sponsors. If you go to four sigmatic that's F-O-U-R-S-I-G-M-A-T-I-C .com-for-sash-mind-pump and use the code mind-pump at checkout, you'll get 15% off. Then we talked about how some countries are talking about
Starting point is 00:01:05 taxing beef. What won't they tax? How dare you? They want to raise money on beef apparently. It's bad for me. Yeah, I'm a beef. Then I talked about a study, no, sorry, how Harvard Medical School is going to get $4.5 million specifically for cannabinoid research. So we talked all about cannabinoids and their potential effects on the body. Now our favorite source of natural legal cannabinoids is from Ned. They make full spectrum hemp oil extracts. So it's got all the cannabinoids in it, not just CBD.
Starting point is 00:01:40 They are one of our sponsors. If you go to hello, Ned, that's H-E-L-L-O-N-E-D, dot com forward slash mind pump, you'll get 15% off your first purchase. Then we talk about how fatherhood changes men's brains. There's actually studies that show that a man's brain changes after he becomes a father. Adam gives us some baby updates.
Starting point is 00:02:02 I talked about how Disney World almost went nuclear, true story. We talked about the winning the car at the mall scam. Apparently it's a scam. Nobody ever wins a car. Don't do it. And then we get into the fitness portion of this episode. The first question, this person wants to know what our favorite row variations are for strength, hypertrophy, and performance. There's a lot of different rows that you can do out there. Which ones are our favorites? A boat row. The next question, this person wants to know,
Starting point is 00:02:30 what are the characteristics or qualities that separates people who are super consistent, long-term with their fitness programs and people who stop their workout programs? People are inconsistent. So what are the differences? What makes people consistent long term? The next question, we talk all about sleep hacks. So what are some good sleep hacks on a budget to improve your sleep quality and get all the health benefits
Starting point is 00:02:55 that come from getting better sleep? And the final question, this person has been seeing a lot of these all-in posts on Instagram. These are fitness influencers who are going all-in in quotation marks, and just eating crazy amounts of food to, quote, make themselves healthy, we give our opinion on that, and that part of the set-up. And suspect. Also, this month, Maps Prime and Prime Pro
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Starting point is 00:04:44 So we have two winners for iTunes and two for Facebook. The iTunes winners are Mono Mali and Big D Energy Brian. Hey. For Facebook, we have Melissa Hicks and Roxanne Mestre. All of you are winners. And the name I just read to iTunes at MindP media.com send your shirt size your shipping address and Your Instagram handle and we'll get that shirt right out to you So yesterday was my grandfathers 88th birthday 88. What do you do for an 88?
Starting point is 00:05:20 Birthday, uh, yeah, we had you know strippers No, it's just you know it's funny. So you're good grandson. We yeah Hey, no, no Oh, no Straight hard attack no, we we went up to my aunt's house because she hosted his birthday party and I would say probably Of the people that live in the Bay Area, Sacramento area, probably one third of my family showed up. Did you guys see the pictures in the video?
Starting point is 00:05:50 Oh, I have a ton of people there. Yeah, so I show up and you know, Jessica is starting to get used to now my family functions, but we have other new family members that have come into the family. We're dating. Poor girl. Every time there's 10 new people for her. Well, no, no, that's not what it is. We have like my cousin.
Starting point is 00:06:06 I think it is that way for her to though. I know it is. I'm sure. Yeah, yeah. But my cousins, like, you just got engaged and my other cousins dating someone. And so these are new girls that are coming in. My sister has a boyfriend that she's been dating
Starting point is 00:06:16 for a year and I'll learn all the stuff. Yeah, so I hear them. We all have this conversation about, because then on the way home, I'm driving home my cousin and her boyfriend. And Jessica and my cousins' boyfriend, who are both obviously outside of the family coming in, start talking about what it's like
Starting point is 00:06:31 to come to our family functions. So if you go on my InstaStory, you'll see the line for food, which went through my aunt's entire house. It literally went through my aunt's whole house. And then there was a big picture at the end when my grandfather and everybody that showed up. And it's just, I think we've probably had,
Starting point is 00:06:49 I don't know, 70 people, 60, 70 people. Wow, it's so crazy. Yeah, it's just an insane amount of people. And they were talking about the noise and all the different people. And how you have to say hi to everybody. You gotta say bye to everybody. And I'm just used to it.
Starting point is 00:07:01 But it's funny when I post the video, people are commenting and they're like, dude, that's insane. I'm like, that's like a third. Yeah. That's not everybody. This is like Katrina's family and it's so, it's as the partner. It's why I feel for Jess totally. Like I totally feel for her because here I am, I'm approaching, we're gonna hit nine years this year, right? So we're coming up, Katrina and I, November-ish, we're coming up on nine years. Yeah. Yeah. You like I did it?
Starting point is 00:07:28 Yeah. Sometimes you have a little room. Yeah. So around nine. It's more than six years. Yeah. Depending how you count, you know, like so. So yeah, coming around in this November, so we'll hit nine. And I think I'm just, I could probably score a 90% on a test if we had all the pictures of the family members and I had all the names on the side
Starting point is 00:07:50 and I could pair them like that. I think I'm just now probably at a point where I could score 90%. But I still don't even think I could ace the test if I had to like name every. Well how many people come to functions? Like would you say number wise? When you go to a big function.
Starting point is 00:08:05 When a big family function, like so like, and her family is like yours, where they get together for almost anything, right? So I would consider like an 88th birthday would be a big function. Yeah, that's a big function for them. Or like a major graduation, like when they're, you know, Jasmine graduated from Santa Clara College.
Starting point is 00:08:23 Like that was, I don't know, probably about 120 people. Oh yeah, so you guys, and it's all like family and cousins. It's not friends. Everyone is fucking somehow related. You know, so, and it just every time I go to a new one, it's like, you know, a new part of a family that I didn't realize.
Starting point is 00:08:39 Oh no, that's so-and-so's wife and they were, you know, together before and they had two or three kids. Do you do this thing where you're like, hey, it's nice to meet you. You're not very nice to meet you. They're like, we met last time. Yes. Happens to it all the time.
Starting point is 00:08:51 All the time. I knew that all the time. No, my grandfather does this thing now because he's, you know, he's older. He's 88 years old. Good health though. He's strong like a horse. But he's getting up there in age.
Starting point is 00:09:02 So now every time we have a big family function, he's always like, hey, get all the boys together. Come here. And then we all have to take a big picture. This is the last picture we'll all take together. Every time he says that. Every time. It's all dramatic about this.
Starting point is 00:09:15 And then he does this weird reminiscing thing. Like, you know, it's gonna be when I die, you guys are all gonna fight over who gets to carry my casket. I'm like, no, no, what the f- That's a terrible thing to think about. What are you doing? Yeah. But he does this thing, it's the last time we're gonna.
Starting point is 00:09:29 Anyway, I have a lot of family members that are investors. And actually, all the guys in my age group are in that space or either professionally or it's like their favorite hobby. Like even my cousins who, you know, have a cousin that is, he's in the tech space and he's actually a big shot in this big company, but he loves it too.
Starting point is 00:09:52 So when we all get together, it ends up turning into this like, you know, how you invest and what you're gonna buy and where you're gonna put your money. And that's cool. I like that conversation too, but I get kind of bored of it for a little while. So I'm like trying to throw in my whole thing.
Starting point is 00:10:04 So I'm like, hey, you guys ever use like Neutropics and stuff? Or to help you guys like pick? And they all got excited, right? Because they're like, yeah, what's good? Like I drink coffee, I fast, this and that. So I'm like, Lions, man. You over here pitching forciastic on them. I can just see your ass.
Starting point is 00:10:19 100%. No, so here's what. That's the big opportunity. No, so here's what was kind of cool. I started talking about Lions, man, and how, you know, especially when you combine it with caffeine, or even on its own, how it's what- That's a big opportunity. No, so here's what was kind of cool. I started talking about Lyons main and how, you know, especially when you combine it with caffeine, or even on its own, how it's been shown to improve, you know, mental function and health or whatever.
Starting point is 00:10:31 Well anyway, one of my cousins is like, oh dude, he goes, me and a couple of my other investor buddies, that's the main supplement that we take. Oh, I- Did not even know. Oh, that's interesting. That they took, yeah, Lyons main. Now did you ask you if they're,
Starting point is 00:10:42 did you tell them that we have four sigmatic or they're taking something else? They take four sigmatic. Oh, they do. Yes, but here him if they're, did you tell them that we have four sigmatic or are you taking something else? They take four sigmatic. Oh, they do. Yes, but here's the infuriating part. What? You think they use our code? So you don't get no credit for that.
Starting point is 00:10:51 Yeah, so you know what I mean guys? He had just ordered some, right? I took his phone and I said, he's your phone and I emailed four sigmatic for his phone. And I'm like, hey, I'm a huge buying pump pen. I forgot to use the code. It's please a few fuckers. I forgot that's a big thing in Silicon Valley,
Starting point is 00:11:07 like even just like, just, I mean, you're in the tech world. Like there's a lot of people that are in the new tropics still. It's a big thing. I mean, Silicon Valley is what started the whole Neutropics really took off here. Anything that improves mental function, the use of, you know, elicit substance is even, like microdosing LSD, stuff like that,
Starting point is 00:11:27 was big in Silicon Valley. But he was telling me that Lyon's main is the new, that's the big one that a lot of guys are using now to help them be, because these guys are, when they're trading, it's a game, man. They're sitting there. I've shown you guys picture hyper focus. I've shown you guys pictures. My my my my brothers Matrix do my brother's desk has five computer screens Yeah, and it looks like like the matrix remember when they're looking at the computer scheme and he's like oh, I can see what's I don't understand any yeah looks like a bunch of lines and dots. Yeah. Yeah. That's what they're looking at It's freaking crazy Oh, hey, did you get a chance to answer? I saw this on Rob Woof now,
Starting point is 00:12:05 is what posted about it. And I also saw our good buddy, Brendan had commented on one of our last episodes. He really enjoyed the conversation that we had around the Impossible Burger. And one of the things, to the article that just came out, there's an article that just came out about them potentially trying to tax beef,
Starting point is 00:12:24 right, to discourage people from buying red meat and the angle is the environmental angle, which is also the same angle that Brendan was also saying that we forgot to mention on the last podcast. And I told him, I said, you know, I thought I could have sworn that, sound, you address this before, or I don't know if this is an off-air conversation that we were having with one of our other friends, but I've been told that that's been debunked. Yeah, it's hard to filter out propaganda with like real solid statistics, you know, around this subject. I don't know where it even goes. It's so oversimplified.
Starting point is 00:12:59 Well, two things. First off, they, any excuse to add a tax, if they see that there's public support behind a cause of some sort, then they can, and they can attach a tax to it. They will, because it's a great way for them to make money. So taxing red meat, because it's good for the environment, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. They just want to get more of your money. That's not, that's not what, in fact, taxing red meat sounds better than taxing you for your gas usage. People get pissed off at that, but they're like, we're a tax red meat.
Starting point is 00:13:32 And then you go, oh yeah, those poor animals, and we need to eat less red meat. And it's better to think, no, it's bullshit. Just the way to raise taxes. As far as the environmental concerns are concerned, they don't, you have to look at the whole big picture. What they do is they look at a very small part of the picture and say, oh, there's a less of a carbon footprint here,
Starting point is 00:13:50 therefore, it's better for the environment. It's not true, you gotta look at the whole picture and economists and mathematicians who've actually looked at the entire thing, find that at most, you're looking at a few percent reduction in know, reduction in carbon output, but what they don't factor in is this. And this is a big one. Now, my expertise is in fitness and health. Okay. The average person is completely ignorant when it comes to nutrition and diet. Would you guys not agree? Right. The average person is ignorant when it comes to diet. If you're
Starting point is 00:14:22 going to start pushing this agenda of going vegan because it's good for the environment and you have all these average people who don't even pay attention to the nutrition to begin with, now we're like, well, I'm just going to eat only vegan products is good for the environment. You're going to end up with a lot of nutrient deficiencies in health health problems because a vegan diet, if it's going to be done healthy, and if it's going to be long term and improved longevity and be healthy, it has to be very well planned. You have to have a very well planned vegan diet. Vigants who are long-term vegans know this.
Starting point is 00:14:53 If we get one on the podcast, they'll admit. You don't just go vegan, you're gonna end up having a shit ton of nutrient deficiencies. And so think of the cost that's gonna have on medical costs, or health costs, and society, and how much of a strain is that going to be on the environment and the economy. But they don't even look at that. They just look at the perfect vegan diet versus the average American diet.
Starting point is 00:15:13 That's how it will work. Derek, didn't they even break down like the gases that are emitted from the cows and all that, and they compared it to, okay, let's say that produces X amount of meat that would produce X amount of burgers. Now let's do this burger that is all made from, you know, all these other random weird things, right? In vegetables and shit like that, it's all inside this. How many fields would have to be tilled?
Starting point is 00:15:35 How many tractors that should? That's when you look at the whole picture. That's what I'm saying, like, didn't they do this where they figured that out and they go like, well, when you factor in how many more fields that you would have to till to produce that many burgers that would replace real meat and the tractors that drove to do that,
Starting point is 00:15:50 the animals, the insects, the things that were killed in order to create that, you're talking about, you know, literally splitting hairs on the difference on which ones better for the environment. And again, we have to consider this. The most important thing to understand and consider is what are the health costs that people are going to have? Now I'm not talking, because you can't compare a well planned vegan diet to the average
Starting point is 00:16:12 American diet. That's not apples to apples. The average American diet, if a person follows that diet who's ignorant to nutrition, switches to vegan, they're going to be because now they're gonna have nutrient deficiencies because the truth is the most nutrient dense foods on the planet are meat. I've seen this too, I watched my cousin switch over because of that, what the health documentary?
Starting point is 00:16:34 Like I hadn't seen her since that. I come and we're eating dinner one. It was like actually Thanksgiving the year before, whatever. And you know, she has become, you know, a vegan, I don't know where I'm just like, huh? And it was all because of documentary, so she's just not choosing me. But then she's not also planning her day
Starting point is 00:16:49 on what she should be consuming and eating, and then she ends up having this iron deficiency later on. It's like, well, there you go. And how expensive will that be? What's that for? It's not that easy. You just don't just cut meat out, and you're okay. You're cutting out one of the most nutrient-dense foods
Starting point is 00:17:04 in your diet, and if you're not somebody who's willing to put the work in and figure out, okay, now that I'm, it's not as simple as just protein. Everybody thinks it's that. It's not just a protein argument. No, there's nutrients that are essential, that are largely found mostly, and some almost only found in animal products of meat.
Starting point is 00:17:23 In fact, even smart, well-planned vegans, oftentimes, when they've been vegan long enough, oftentimes still have to supplement. They still have to add supplements or eat vegan foods that are heavily fortified with vitamins and minerals, with certain vitamins and minerals. So this is a real situation.
Starting point is 00:17:43 I mean, the truth is is veganism would not even exist if we didn't have modern farming and the ability to go to the grocery store and have tons and tons of variety. Now I'm not saying don't go vegan. I'm just saying if you go vegan, first off, you better know what the fuck you're doing because just going vegan, I can 100% guarantee
Starting point is 00:17:59 you're gonna end up with a nutrient efficiency over time. Mess up your hormones, have terrible health. And look, there's bad health that comes from just eating a bad diet. And then there's bad health that comes from a nutrient deficiency. Which one do you think is more acute? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:18:13 You deal with like a vitamin B deficiency or an iron deficiency or a vitamin D deficiency or whatever. That's like acute. You know what I mean? You can get away with kind of eating a shitty typical American diet for 15, 20 years. You have a nutrient deficiency, hair falls out,
Starting point is 00:18:30 nails start to get all weird, hormones are all over the place, you lose your period, you're a man, you're not producing sperm anymore, testosterone drops, like all kinds of things happen. So you gotta have be well planned. So you're gonna tell a bunch of average, you know, American dieters or eaters or whatever. Hey, everybody who don't know anything about nutrition to begin with now stop eating meat because it's better
Starting point is 00:18:49 for the environment and you sell them on that and you have all these food manufacturers that are processing vegan foods that they taste good. So now they have no excuse like, well, the impossible burger tastes just like me. I heard it's better for your environment. Well, vegetable farms aren't good for the environment either. No, no, I mean, there's always an impact and again
Starting point is 00:19:06 If you count all of it out, there's there it's not it's not max look of ears fielding this right now, too I mean this is max is taking on an onslaught right now Rob is taking an onslaught right now It's this thing is growing. It's getting legs like crazy as far as like everybody is jumping on the bandwagon with this impossible burger It's it's insane dude. Smart investment, you wanna make some money because it's fucking winning right now. It's blowing my mind though, how many people are being fucking fooled by it? If you make something that tastes really, really good
Starting point is 00:19:32 and you sell the notion that it's better, like cruelty free. Yeah, like it's better for the environment, you're not killing any animals and it's better for your body, but it also tastes really fucking good. You got everything covered. You got a blockbuster right there.
Starting point is 00:19:47 I don't care what your product is, you know what I mean? Anyway, it's crazy. Oh, here's something interesting. I just read this the other day. So apparently this happened this year. Harvard Medical School got a $4.5 million, I think grant to study specifically to study cannabinoids. What?
Starting point is 00:20:06 Yeah, so very cool. So, they're going to use this money specifically just to study cannabinoids. And in particular, their applications for health, and they're also going to study why cannabinoids and in particular, THC might have a negative effect on the adolescent brain, because there's some studies to show that. When kids use a lot of THC, that they have a permanent reduction in their IQ and the increase their risk of mental disorders
Starting point is 00:20:34 like the schizophrenia. What are your thoughts right now? I'm seeing this more and more in our space. We have friends that are connected to us that are speaking out on cannabis. And I understand, because I think we've talked out on it a few times too, that it's turning into, you know, everybody's pixie dusting, you know, cannabis and every product that's out there.
Starting point is 00:20:53 And I don't know, I feel like they're doing more harm than they are good, right? Because now what's happening is now it's turning into this debate of, you know, is CBD worth anything at all? Or is it just, it's the next bullshit supplement that's out there that's got way more hype than what it's really doing as far as benefits to people. And there's some people in the space that are shitting on it.
Starting point is 00:21:14 And then there's other people in the space that are promoting it for everything. And so, what are your thoughts on where this is going to go? Do you think that it's going to continue to be something that is used by the masses? Do you think it's going to be for specific people only like what do you foresee? I well CBD as of right now has some actual medicinal applications, but they're not super numerous. So We have yet to see studies that show that CBD does everything that all these people promise, like post-workout recovery and, you know, does this for sleep and does this for that?
Starting point is 00:21:50 We don't have any evidence to support that first. I think the bubble is still going to blow up though. I don't think it's going to pop. It's going to keep growing because CBD is connected to cannabis. Cannabis is becoming more and more legal. Sounds cool. Sort of putting in everything, ice cream and burgers and whatever. The science that we currently have, those shows that cannabinoids are better when they're
Starting point is 00:22:07 all present. So if you want to get the, and the analytical effects, for example, of cannabinoids, it's better to take, to use something that's an extract from the plant, whether it be cannabis or hemp, because the cannabinoids seem to work better together. They call it the entourage effect. In fact, if this is something you're interested in, you can actually Google cannabinoid entourage effect, and you'll see that if they compare individual cannabinoids to cannabinoids in the presence of other cannabinoids, for whatever they're comparing them to, whether it's even
Starting point is 00:22:41 THC, even the illegal cannabinoid, the federally illegal one, THC. THC makes you high, makes you, you can make you feel euphoric and giggly and all that stuff. If you combine THC with other cannabinoids, it improves all those effects and it reduces all the negative effects. It's like paranoia, short-term memory loss effects. Those all decline because CBD, CBG, CBC, you know, and all the
Starting point is 00:23:07 other myriad of cannabinoids are present. And there's a lot of them. There's, I know of at least a dozen, but there's more. There's also benefits that come from the, and this is both the hemp plant and the cannabis plant, the marijuana plant. There's also benefits that come from the terpines that are found in these plants. And the turpines are what give the plants their smell. So like, and if you go... This is what turned us on to dosos, I remember that.
Starting point is 00:23:33 Yeah, I remember that. Because they're one of the few companies that we saw that were even messing with talking about the turpines. Yeah, so like, when you go to a cannabis shop and you open up the little jars and you smell them and some of them will smell like skunk, some of them smell like pine or diesel gasoline or like a fruity kind of smell. All those smells come from terpenes and what they're finding is that the terpenes change how your body uses the cannabinoids and they may actually play a bigger role than we thought. So if you're gonna use cannabinoids
Starting point is 00:24:08 and you're gonna use them in ways that are therapeutic, first off, I would stay away from THC unless the THC is what's helping you. So unless you're like depressed and you need it for those types of things. But I would stay from, with stick with the ones that don't have THC hemp oil extracts or like this,
Starting point is 00:24:26 and then use full extracts, because they have all that stuff. They have the terpenes, they have the, what they basically do like Ned, for example, that's the company we work with. Ned takes these hemp plants and basically can extracts, use a full spectrum extract and condenses them down. So when you use a dropper full,
Starting point is 00:24:45 you're getting a lot of all the cannabinoids and the terpenes. And you can actually smell when you open the bottle. You can smell that there's- So smelly. Exactly. And that's where you're going to get the benefit. So that's why we'll get messages where people will be like, I used CBD and it didn't do anything for me.
Starting point is 00:24:58 But then I used the net, the net, hempoil extract, and then I felt a big difference. Well, it's interesting you brought this. So especially with, you know, child development and the brain development and then the exposure of, you know, THC, and a lot of these, you know, chemicals from marijuana,
Starting point is 00:25:14 I was actually wondering about this. If there's like a study for secondhand smoke, you know, around children, you know, with cannabis. Like if they're even like moving in that direction, I think I honestly, like, I was having a hard time with this because I was on vacation and it's legal now and so it's like people are getting very like, like, lose a fair about how they use their cannabis
Starting point is 00:25:37 and there's this family, this guy and his girl and they have this little toddler and he's just like smoking, you know, and all this smoke is going on, it's kid, and it's like right front of me, and I'm just not sit well with me. No, that doesn't seem to seem extremely irresponsible, if you ask me.
Starting point is 00:25:54 That's the way they used to smoke cannabis in the ancient times, is they wouldn't smoke it. They would put themselves in T.P. and then they burn it inside the tent and then they'd all just breathe in. It's the same smoke. You know what I mean? Maybe it's not inhaling it from the joint,
Starting point is 00:26:10 but it's probably getting some. To me, it felt okay, this is a comparison that I was kind of looking at. I'm like, yeah, be one thing, if you had like a beer and like he's like drinking it, but it'd be like the equivalent of like Jack Daniel's bottle, like he's just down in. You know, that's what it looked like and felt like.
Starting point is 00:26:24 Well, I mean, the smoke is going to the kid. Right. And it does interfere with the way the brain develops. So this is why they're saying, you know, if you're gonna use, especially the psychoactive cannabinoids, like THC, you don't want to use it until you're like in your 20s when your brain is already solidified and then you're gonna be okay.
Starting point is 00:26:44 Otherwise, if you affect the way it develops, there's a lot of plasticity in the brain when you're young, but then once you get to a certain point, it's kind of structured and that's it. Speaking of brain, you sent me over an article about fatherhood changing my brain. I didn't get a chance to read it. You have to break it down to me. Yeah, do let me pull it up. Yeah, you sent it over to me.
Starting point is 00:27:00 So it did talk about, there's two things that they notice that happens with fathers when they have kids. One is that they notice a decline in testosterone. Now, they theorize that the lower testosterone is because it keeps the father, it makes the dad less likely to want to stray, more parental, you know, you know, wanted to be more of a role in raising the child. I don't think that's the reason at all. I think if you take out the lack of sleep factor and stress that their testosterone levels are, will be perfectly fine. Because
Starting point is 00:27:36 that's the one thing that they're not counting for. Well, you could totally tease that out. You could tease that out from a father who just had a kid who's involved with his kid versus the dad who had a kid and then completely disconnected and goes about his normal life. You would think that that would be proven through that, right? No, yeah, no, what they do is they just test men's testosterone before and then after they have a kid. I mean, when you first have a kid, you're not sleeping well.
Starting point is 00:28:01 Even if you are sleeping well, you've got something new on your mind. You know, automatically you're thinking of more than just you, I got to bust my, I got to work, I got to, oh my god, I got to pay these bills. That's going to lower your testosterone. So that part right there, that's not that's not clear yet. But the brain does seem to change. So what they found, so with moms, there's parts of the brain that are linked to attachment, nurturing, empathy, and the ability to interpret and react appropriately to a baby's behavior. That starts to improve in moms and in dads.
Starting point is 00:28:35 So it's interesting how our brains start to kind of change a little bit so that we can become better parents, if you will, if we can nurture our children a little bit better. There's also part of the brain that also starts to develop more or shows up more brightly on their scans with men. This is the outer surface of the brain, where higher, more conscious cognitive functions sit, like thought, goal, orientation, planning, and problem solving. Now that makes a lot of sense, right?
Starting point is 00:29:05 Evolutionarily speaking. Yeah, yeah. Like you have a baby and you're about to, you know, you gotta get smarter with your planning and your goal setting and all that shit. So my business friend should be next level right now. Is what you're saying right now? Well, are you noticing any changes? Right away, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:29:20 I feel like most of brilliant ideas we've been doing lately, I think have been coming for me. You know what though? I've noticed with you, you're much more, you see me happier and calm. I don't know if that's just, I probably could have a baby. Yeah, no, I'm tired as fuck though. I'll give you that one.
Starting point is 00:29:35 Yeah, I'll give you that one. I'll give you that one. I'll give you that, I submit, you know what I'm saying? I was talking a lot of shit the first four days. And, you know, this is easy. Yeah, yeah. I got this on record. I was talking mad shit at the very beginning. I was like, oh, shit the first four days. And, you know. This is easy. Yeah, yeah. I got this on record. I was talking about shit at the very beginning.
Starting point is 00:29:48 I was like, oh, this ain't so bad. You know, it's funny. Would I realize now looking back? Cause here I am on week six is a lot of that must be adrenaline. Like excitement. Like, for the soul. Yeah, I mean, and to it, cause I didn't think, I thought that, you know, that seems to be like,
Starting point is 00:30:05 or my experience before, normally when I have a adrenaline like that, it's like a 24 hour, 48 hour thing. But, you know, having a child just goes a show that like, that it was a much longer lasting high. Like I was the first week to two weeks to me was like, not sure, nothing. Yeah, training hard, wasn't sleeping, didn't feel like I was deprived of sleep. Nothing. Yeah, training hard wasn't sleeping. Didn't feel like I was deprived of sleep.
Starting point is 00:30:27 Like this is, I got this, you know? And, you know, and I know you guys kept talking shit that it's, it's coming bro, don't worry. Yeah. And it came, you know what I'm saying? It definitely came, it came. It came and I'm like, fuck I'm tired right now. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:30:41 I was sleeping on my bottom floor this morning, right? So what, here's the latest news, right? Does you guys gonna love this? So you guys know how I like to keep my house, like just fucking Arctic cold, right? I like to keep it like 51, like get to wear a jacket and summertime in my house. I already have to lift that up.
Starting point is 00:30:58 Well, so, you know, we are, for a little while there, we were starting to have a little problem with Maximus, he was just kind of getting kind of congested and a running nose. And that was making him have a hard time breathing and even when he was nursing. And, you know, we are doing all these different things. The troubleshoot it. And, you know, something that we started to notice is like, man, he really likes to be in front of the red light.
Starting point is 00:31:18 He really likes when we go outside in the sun. So he loves, or the steam in the room, we'd steam up our spare bathroom and get it real hot. Like he seems to calm down when it gets really, really kind of humid and hot. And I thought, thought we keep the room, the house dry and cold. You know, and like, what happens if we like turn it up, like kind of tropical, let it get warmed like 73 in the house or whatever. And it was, it's sure a shit. We turn it up like to like 73, and he's like, so much better. Breathing better, sleeping better, nursing better, and I'm like, fuck, no.
Starting point is 00:31:51 And I'm dying, bro. I'm just like, so hot, dude, and so thank God for the chili pad to like save me, but even then dude, like last night I woke up, and I told Katrina, I gotta go downstairs, and I like went all the way down there, bottom floor. Cause down there it's actually pretty cool. Like if I keep my house at 73, the third floor,
Starting point is 00:32:10 the bottom, the lowest floor is, stays pretty cool, you know, cause the heat rises, right? So I go down there and I slept on this on our uncomfortable, that's like the stased room, like the family room that nobody ever sits in, it's not the comfortable couch. So I was sleeping on that last night, like, fuck dude, nobody ever sits in. It's not the comfortable couch. So I'll sleep it on that last night. Like, fuck, dude, this is not cool.
Starting point is 00:32:28 Yeah. Keeps coming. Yeah, so there's one thing. Yeah. So I definitely will admit that that part has the sleep thing. And I didn't realize how long that this two hour and a half, two hour eating thing would last. Like I just assumed for some reason,
Starting point is 00:32:46 I thought that was a very small time. I thought it was the first two weeks for a newborn and then they kind of transitioned to like the four hour, to six hour, like it's on like a- Oh, it's a long time, bro. He's gonna be like that for a little while. No, I know. I've actually, I mean obviously I recognize that now
Starting point is 00:33:03 that because what'll happen is she'll nurse and the two hour, this is the part that I know, I've, I mean, obviously I recognize that now that, cause what'll happen is she'll nurse, and the two hour, and this is the part that I guess, you've got to feel bad for her too, cause she's got the foods attached to her. Well, that's the other part. So this is the part too. I told her just yesterday, I said, you know, I really want you to consider,
Starting point is 00:33:18 you know, hiring a full-time nanny to come over. And really it's more to make me feel better about like, because what's happening now is I'm tired, because I didn't sleep, then I work now, and I'm still trying to stay consistent with training. And so when I get home, I'm pretty fucking exhausted. I'm not the dad in the first week who's like excited to take him from her and handling him most of the time, like doing a lot of it, like I'm fucking tired. And then I can see that she's tired because she's been handling them all day and all night.
Starting point is 00:33:47 And so there's a part of me that's like, man, I don't, I feel bad for her. I feel bad for myself because of my amount. And like, and I don't want that. And so, and I know like right now we have my sister back again, right? So she's with us for a week. And it's like, man, when she comes, she was here, she got here yesterday and Katrina looked at her like, she's like, man, your brother just loves him here. My sister does.
Starting point is 00:34:06 My sister just recognizes the dogs need to be walked. She comes behind us, cleans the kitchen. She notices one of us has an eating so she prepares food for us. It's just fucking, it's amazing. It's like, that's all we, it feels like it's just enough help to make, to handle the, because you can't change the two hour eating.
Starting point is 00:34:24 That's just, the kid needs that. And he's gonna wake us up, you know, it's just inevitable. He's gonna wake up and need to eat. When they start to eat solid, is when they start to, when you start throwing a little bit of solid food, then they go longer, you know what I mean? So I'm looking at, because you know, the two hours, which is nuts to me too, is,
Starting point is 00:34:42 that's what the start time of her feeding is. You count that time. So in reality, she's like an hour and a half. Every hour hour, it's an hour and a half. So it's not really, I was like, man, for a while, I was like, okay, I could deal with two hour windows. It's not a two hour window. Sometimes it's a half hour window.
Starting point is 00:34:59 Sometimes he nurses for an hour, and he's hungrier today. And so he nurses half hour, burp, and then he's down. Oh wow, he's resting 30 minutes. Oh, he's back up time to eat again. You know what I'm saying? And that's sometimes and more often than not two o'clock in the morning. Three o'clock and four o'clock.
Starting point is 00:35:15 What a great example of like the greatest lesson in life that we learn over and over again, which is the best thing in life or the hardest thing in life. It's always like that. It's always so rewarding because it is. Everything is a challenge. There's nothing that's super rewarding. Where's your dad?
Starting point is 00:35:30 Hard as fuck. It's so crazy that you say that because that's exactly what's been going through my mind. I'm like, you know what's funny? This is why people talk about parenting and being a father or being a mother is one of the most rewarding things of life. It's very little to do with like just the experience of having a kid and everything to do with it's probably one of the most miserable fucking things
Starting point is 00:35:51 that you have to get through. Finally you're here, dude. You know what I'm saying, so. And it's like, it's like, I think high-fiving. Any motherfucker that goes through it is just like, so proud of himself. You know, fuck the kid. I mean, you're proud of it.
Starting point is 00:36:06 You're proud that you didn't turn into a fuck up because you probably, like, you're not a psychopath. Because they probably a high percentage of motherfuckers, like, give up and like, fuck this. I didn't sign up for this and they out, dude, and they're a bad father. And it's like, man, if you're just there, you're already better than most.
Starting point is 00:36:23 Like, if you're just there. And then if you actually then care about the things I like to think we think about, or think about the behaviors and the things we do and how we talk to them in the energy that's around him and yadda, all this other stuff, that's even another level of parenting. It's like you show up to do the job,
Starting point is 00:36:39 you're already a badass. It's 90% of fucking hard work, sacrifice, tired tired anxiety, fuck and fear Spending money it's 90% that and then there's the 10% of the time that makes it all like seriously worth it Like and it's it can be the smallest as dead That Yeah, oh my god, I'm so happy. I did all that for you know, it's like the smallest ride that way Yeah, dude, and that's what I mean. Life is like that man.
Starting point is 00:37:05 It's like the hardest fucking things. Yeah, man. Or the most rewarding. And if you take out the hard part, I don't know if you're right. I don't know if it's you're in the reward. Well, I teach that. I teach that. I mean, it's probably one of the most common conversations
Starting point is 00:37:15 that I have when I get interviewed is we talk about adversity. And, you know, and they ask, you know, how I went through challenge. What I learned early on in my life that the more adverse or the more challenging something was, the darker, the harder, the better it was on the other side. And the more rewarding it was. And so that's how I look at fatherhood right now. It's like, oh, well, no wonder it's so fucking amazing.
Starting point is 00:37:36 It's so amazing, because it's fucking so miserable trying to make it through it. That's it, it's so fucking hard. Because you survived it, and you actually have a kid that's functioning, eating, you know what I'm saying? Like, I did it! You know what I'm saying? He's not a murderer.
Starting point is 00:37:50 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I, you know, and again, I went, like I said, this weekend, I was at my grandfather's birthday and to see him sit there at 88 years old, you know, he's towards the final stretch, right? Again, his health is good and all that stuff, but he's 88. And you watch him sit there and look at everything he's created. You know, he came to this country. It was him, my grandmother, my mom and my uncle.
Starting point is 00:38:15 And this is before they had the other kids. And now he looks out and he sees all of his kids have their kids. And all those kids have kids and he sits there and you can just see the look on his face like wow look at what look at what we did look at what we've done you know together and you can see that you can see the pride that he has but I mean I mean the stories that they tell me like my grandfather was he came to this country was a custodian he didn't speak English he had to clean bathrooms that's how he supported his family and you better believe it was fucking hard and challenging and he had four kids and it's crazy but I didn't speak English, he had to clean bathrooms. That's how he supported his family. And you better believe it was fucking hard
Starting point is 00:38:46 and challenging and he had four kids and it's crazy, but I don't know, man. I feel that shift for me too. That's actually true. Like, man, I have this crazy motivation. And it's like for many years, it was very selfishly driven. Like, you know, I had a number I wanted to make
Starting point is 00:39:01 and things I wanted to buy in a place I wanted to be. I don't like right now the way I think is like, I'm thinking about my generations later, which I never thought like that before. Now it's like the money that I save today, the money that I make today, the things that we're building business-wise, it's like, I don't care if that takes 30 years to mature
Starting point is 00:39:20 or happen or what that. I'm thinking about that generation now. It's the legacy here. Yeah, I didn't think about that before. Before it was about myself. It was about getting myself out of this position, put myself in this position, and now the thought process is completely different.
Starting point is 00:39:34 The things that make my day to day or the things that make my decisions when it comes to finances and business, I'm always, my wheels are turning. It's one of the greatest things I think a man can do. I really do, I honestly think, and I wish more people communicated it that way because I think we have such a selfish,
Starting point is 00:39:52 egocentric, consumer-based society that it's not cool to be a dad. Like, I don't wanna have the money, I wanna buy cars, I wanna, no, no. Who needs that? You know what, the best men in the world are fucking good fathers. That's, I'm going to make that statement right now.
Starting point is 00:40:07 Those are the best men in the world or the great fathers. And a lot of times they don't get the spotlight, but they do great things and it's hard work and it's selfless. You know what I'm saying? This goes to moms too. We're dads here and that's why I'm talking about dads. This definitely goes out to moms and more often
Starting point is 00:40:20 the not moms do a better job, but you know, this is to dads too. It's fucking cool, man. If you're a good dad and you're there for your dad, you talk about that. And what you just shared with your grandfather, and you don't really think about this, because you talk about your life right now,
Starting point is 00:40:35 and you think about your dad, but it's like, if it wasn't for your grandfather, mind pump wouldn't exist. Exactly. You know what I'm saying? That's crazy to think that, and I can't imagine how amazing that must feel to be him sitting there and seeing the legs of all the family
Starting point is 00:40:48 going like. Bro, I had a conversation with my grandfather, which I usually, he always asked me how the business is doing, but he likes to know specifics. Like he wants to know how much, how much. How much? How many of you said? Because, you know what, we sit there and I show him.
Starting point is 00:41:02 He tell me, I tell him, he goes, show me, show me. So I open up and I show him, you know, say, you know, sales and production and this is, how many people listen to your show and I'm explaining to him the numbers and my grandfather's looking and he will cry every time. He starts crying and gets real proud. He goes, I'm happy I came here, you know,
Starting point is 00:41:17 like I came to this country. Oh wow. And you hear that and you're like, fuck, and I respect the man. And he's by no means is he a perfect guy. He's extremely flawed, we all are. But I have so much respect, you know, and I've had those kind of role models.
Starting point is 00:41:29 Like, and it's fucking hard, man, it ain't easy. But it's the best job in the world, dude. It's the best job in the world. They do it well. Anyway, speaking of kids and all that stuff, I read something crazy this weekend. I did not know this was true. What?
Starting point is 00:41:41 So Disney World, okay? Disney World, did you guys know that when Disney World opened in Florida in 1960, I think it was four or 62, that they actually got approval by the government to build a nuclear power plant. What? To power them. They knew they were going to be so big that they're like like we may need nuclear power So Disneyland got approval to build a nuclear power plant now they never did. Yeah, they never did I think because nuclear power started falling out of favor But they still what year was that I think it was in 1962
Starting point is 00:42:18 I was a Chernobyl was when yeah This would be great right in the middle of a kids park Yeah, I know. This would be great right in the middle of a kids park. Let's do it. Nuclear meltdown. That idea. But you want to know it's crazier? They still have the permits and the rights to it.
Starting point is 00:42:31 So if Disney World wanted to build a nuclear power plant, they're not an expiration on that? They still could. That's what the article said. Yes. What? Doug will pull it up right now. That's hilarious. Yeah, see?
Starting point is 00:42:42 It's true. There is, this could change in the year. I was 19, what does that say? Well, look at that 2019 article right now. That's hilarious. Yeah, see, it's true. There is this could change in the year. I was 19. What does that say? Well, look at that 2019 article right there. It's just Disney would or world could have gone nuclear forbs. Yep. Yep. They still got so was 1967 or is that 57 or 67? Yeah, they still have a permit in Florida to build a nuclear power plant. That is crazy. That's hilarious. Random facts. Yeah. That's totally well. If you think about it with nuclear power, that would have been it would have saved a shit ton of money on energy. Of course. Yeah. It's a power. Everything there. I mean, I'm sure
Starting point is 00:43:12 they consume like half the state's electricity. You imagine the light parade at night. Yeah. Yeah. The fireworks. Oh, it's all glowing. Yeah. Oh, shit. Anyway, I read that. I thought it was pretty crazy. Dude, I saw this caught my attention. I was reading the hustle and there was, you know those, those, those, those cars are in the middle of the mall. And people like sign up for such a scam. Dude, and like in casinos and all that,
Starting point is 00:43:38 but it was interesting. So this one was actually in Milpitas, where this guy did investigation and found out, like went down the rabbit hole. Does anybody actually ever really win a car? No, no. The most obvious, actually actually won is like three to $500 of like consolation prizes
Starting point is 00:43:56 after they get through all these different sales tactics to hammer them. So I guess like it's popular for a lot of these, what do you call time share companies? So what they do is they get a car from a local dealership and they lease it or they loan it to them and then they just put it right in the middle of the mall and then they put these little kiosks there
Starting point is 00:44:17 and they get all their information and then they basically just, if you go through the product, they call them and they say they want something and then they get people down to do this whole time-shifting in hammer-oom. So, I don't have proof of this, so, but I'm going to say that we're not gonna name names,
Starting point is 00:44:33 but I believe that there's several supplement companies that people have heard me talk openly about that I don't care about, that use this exact same scam and hustle that's been around forever. It's just in a different form. In a different form, by like, for example, when 5,000 share this, post this, do this. It's chance to win $5,000.
Starting point is 00:44:53 You're winning shit. And I don't think anybody fucking wins. And even if someone does, I think it's someone internally and it's a bunch of bullshit. I think, and I heard that was going around with a couple of these supplement companies and that's how a lot of them grew and had traction early on before everybody knew who the fuck they were I hate that. Yeah, you're so slimy. Slimy shit. Yeah, it sucks because people still do it and they're like so excited
Starting point is 00:45:17 Yeah, I could win this car. It's such an illusion. Yeah, remember those those clearing house sweepstakes or whatever What they called those? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, come in the mail and shit Yeah, yeah, and they have the video of like the show up with the balloons you want to check You know that got me to answer the door when I was a kid so many times Don't worry. I'll get it. Yeah It's nobody Yeah, those those what they'll do is I'll have you fill out a form for the car or whatever and then they'll call you like You want you didn't win a car, but you want
Starting point is 00:45:46 with vacation and fucking wherever we did that with the gym business. We had the lead boxes. It was when it went a free gym membership. We never gave a free. Everybody wanted a free five day pass. Yeah. And what we did is you get, you called all those leads. Oh, you didn't win, but I'd like to offer you a free week in the gym.
Starting point is 00:46:02 So you could try it out and people would be excited because they're like, oh, cool. I still got something. You were supposed to in the gym so you could try it out. And people would be excited because they're like, oh, cool, I still got something. You were supposed to do. You know what you're supposed to do? You were supposed to send all those slips in to corporate and then they would pick a year membership. Did you ever turn the slips in?
Starting point is 00:46:13 No, nobody ever turned the slip in. He's on those. Yeah, nobody did. Yeah, you called it hot leads. Yeah, he called those leads in. Hey, did you guys see Mike Matthews' story the other day? You try and make fun. So you know how we always make fun of him
Starting point is 00:46:25 for posting the pictures of himself writing a stationary bike. And it's Flops and underwear. Yeah, underwear. He just did it again. He posted it up again. And he asked his audience what they thought of it or whatever, which I think it's so I like.
Starting point is 00:46:38 What I would love to do with Mike, because he said those that don't know we're having a live event with Mike. It's at myimpumplive.com. You guys can get there's still some tickets. I believe there's only two VIP plus for the dinner with us. I think there's only two seats to those left. And I think there's a couple of the VIPs.
Starting point is 00:46:52 He's one of the most knowledgeable guys, especially in the business. And he's a good friend. And he's a great time. I'm excited as hell for this live event. It's gonna be a while. What was I gonna say about him? Oh, I was gonna talk about Mike coming down here,
Starting point is 00:47:05 but I can't remember why I was gonna share with him. Oh, I wanted to do his bike. So you know how we have our chairs? Oh, I haven't sit on the bike. Yeah, we have a bike. We have a sit on the bike. Yeah, we don't even tell him, right? We just put, we put our three fucking production chairs
Starting point is 00:47:19 that we sit at all the time, and then we'll fucking get an elliptical bike or whatever for him right next to us. That's gotta be the move. I don't feel great. I can't wait, cause he's a smart dude. And the thing that I like most about Mike is that he's super honest. Like he'll just tell you whatever you want to know. That's why we all connected with him.
Starting point is 00:47:36 So this live event's gonna be fun. Well, I would kill for the dinner, honestly. Like that, I mean, I'll tell you straight up right now. Pick his business brain. We have a ton of friends that we have met in this space now, and I have a lot of respect for a lot of them and spoke highly of a lot of, you know, the Ben Pekolsky's and the, you know,
Starting point is 00:47:54 Bajros' Tom Bill use. Like, I would say that the person that I probably communicate the most with and have learned from and just been impressed time over time with their business brain is Mike. Mike is one of the most underrated people in the space. And super open to share. Because he doesn't flaunt his success, but that motherfucker is extremely successful and
Starting point is 00:48:21 very good at what he does and an open book. And so, man, our dinner conversations, when we sit down and we chat about business, it's some of the most favorite, my favorite times that we have had with all the people that we've had an opportunity to hang out and be around. So, to me, that is, I mean, I would be all over that if I was like an entrepreneur trying to come up in the space. If that's how you network. Yeah, and if there are no tickets available when this episode airs, my sincere is the apology, I know they're flying right now,
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Starting point is 00:49:30 First question is from Michael Vanderloo. What are your favorite row variations for strength, hypertrophy, et cetera? Good question. Row variations. Yeah, it's a great question because. I love the T-Bar row. Rowing is, that's one of my favorites.
Starting point is 00:49:44 It's got to be one of my favorite exercises. Well, let's start with the most basic one, right? The Barbell row, that's gotta be the most basic exercise. I personally prefer an overhand grip with my Barbell row, but you know in the 90s, I don't know if you guys remember this, in the 90s it became real popular to supinate your grip to have that kind of reverse grip row.
Starting point is 00:50:03 Let's start with Dorean Yates. Dorean Yates, who was Mr. Olympia, he would post pictures of whatever, he wouldn't post, he was in magazines before social media. And they would talk about how he liked to row with a supinated grip. And this is because Mike Menser,
Starting point is 00:50:18 who at one point changed the way Dorene 8's trained from high volume to low volume high intensity, which became his kind of brand, he told them that the biceps are stronger in the supinated position. So if you want to lift more weight, you need to go with a supinated grip. And so that's how Dorian rode. And then all of a sudden it became a thing. Everybody rode that way. The reason why that's not my absolute favorite, although I like it, is because it does place the bicep in a little bit of a vulnerable position. In fact, you'll find guys who are really strong sometimes, you know, hurt their bicep because they're rowing so much weight with that, with that supinated grip.
Starting point is 00:50:51 But T-Bar rows up there, bar bar rows gotta be my favorite. That's gonna be my favorite all around. Well, you got to exercise. The difference between supinated and pronated also though, it also changes the recruitment pattern in the back because your back because the elbow position now. It tends to drive the elbows in the back. Yeah, because when you go supinated, now you can tuck the elbows all the way by your side.
Starting point is 00:51:10 When you're pronated, they tend to flare out a little bit. So you're going to change a little bit of how it feels. So I like to incorporate, I include both. So it's a real normal for me. If I found that, oh, I've rode the last five times in a pronated grip, I'll come in and go, oh, I'm going go supinate a grip today, just a vary. But I love unconventional shit for this.
Starting point is 00:51:29 Like, I was doing sled rows the other day. Oh, yeah, you were, weren't you? Yeah, and it's, you know, like, it's just, it's something where I'm like providing that kind of movement with it. And I just loved like the power output I can't even like you love to get on the road. I can't even get on the road.
Starting point is 00:51:44 Yeah, you got me into sled rows, and I fell, I was doing a lot of that when I can't get you in the sled rows. You got me into sled rows. Yeah, you got me into sled rows. And I fell, I was doing a lot of that when I was competing anywhere that had a gr, anytime there was grass and I was doing it back, I threw sled rows in because I just loved the way. We should explain sled rows for people who don't know. So it's, you attach ropes or handles, I should say to a sled.
Starting point is 00:51:58 We did YouTube, didn't we? Yeah, it's kind of like a TRX hand, like so basically straps, like you hook to the front of the sled and then you stack the sled with weight and basically just get where it's taught and then you kind of sit in your squat or your, yeah, basically like a squat position lean over your explosive, your row. Yeah, the thing I like about it, do we do it? Do we do a YouTube video of it? I think we did. I thought we did, Doug, maybe look at the part of the talk. Yeah, because I thought we did a YouTube video on this way back when we were doing it at the other gym.
Starting point is 00:52:26 Now, it doesn't have the negative portion of the rep, which some people would say is a detriment, but I see that as a positive. It's a positive because almost every other exercise you do for row does have that. And so it's an exercise where it's you are. And all you are working is the concentric motion. And it's less damaging to the muscle.
Starting point is 00:52:44 So you can actually add this to increase volume and minimize the amount of recovery that you need from it. So I wouldn't always only do concentric exercises, but to add a row like that and make it explosive. No, to emphasize power and to get that concentric contraction. Well, it's kind of like a pen row. Pen row. Yeah, pen lay row. Yeah, pen lay row.
Starting point is 00:53:03 You're exploding up and then you let the bar drop down. So that's the exact same thing only. So I love that. And I also love, we added this in one of our programs too, where you're bent over and you get a kettlebell and we add rotation with that row. So it's more of a, I forget we ended up calling it, but this is something I used to do with the kettlebells all the time. Anyway, a real heavy kettlebell, you're leaning over, you're kind of propping one arm on the four foot, the leg in front, and I kind of propping one arm on the four foot, the leg in front, and I'm rotating and pulling it in towards the chest.
Starting point is 00:53:28 Yeah, I like, I actually prefer kettlebells over dumbbells for the dumbbell row type exercise. Just because of the weight, the weight is situated at the bottom. It's kind of less, it's less of it's in the way. It's not a huge difference, but it's enough of a difference where I enjoy the way it feels. Dumbbell rows have to be one of my top three row exercises. I love a good dumbbell row. Well, it's also one of the more,
Starting point is 00:53:53 because you're doing, especially because you're doing single or effort on a single, because you could do that double too. I used to do double dumbbell rows a lot where I just grab a pair of dumbbells, bend over and do a bend over row that way. But single dumbbell rows, there's two major ways that you can do a difference,
Starting point is 00:54:05 although I've seen lots of different variations of it, where you start to get some anti-rotational benefits to it or rotational benefits to it, right? So that's the kind of an ad to that. That's why I like it, because you get that little bit of a twist at the top. Right, which there's a lot of carryover and benefit to that, I think, of doing some sort of rotation
Starting point is 00:54:21 in there for rotational strength, and then also making it really strict. I mean, you take a, I mean, I can rip up, like, you know, probably, I don't know. You can go heavy on that. Yeah, yeah, I've, I know I've done a well over 120 before for a single dumbbell if I'm ripping, right? But then I could take that and do it controlled
Starting point is 00:54:39 with like 80 pounds and make it fucking brutal and tough and there's benefits to both ways. Yeah, there it is. Power sled pole. It's called on YouTube. Yeah, we did. Excellent. Yeah. I do love this move, dude. This is such a warm. God, you are a beast. Look how young you look.
Starting point is 00:54:55 I know. What happened? That was only four years ago. Are we aging faster? What the hell is going on here? It's exciting. It's crazy. It's all this wisdom, you know. Justin got me into that. You know what I like about it too? It's, you know, talk about maybe one of the most functional, you know, back exercises you could do.
Starting point is 00:55:12 Because when you think about real life, like that's, you would get your feet, if you were gonna have to try and grab or drag or pull something, you would leverage your whole body. When I used to do those, so judo and jujitsu, especially if you're in a ghee, if you're fighting in a ghee, that position, the way youjitsu, especially if you're in a gee, if you're fighting in a gee, that position, the way you're exploding, the way you're positioning your body,
Starting point is 00:55:29 especially if you're setting yourself up for a throw and judo, that it's so much carryover from that exercise. So I used to do that, but I didn't have a sled. This was back when I used to do juditsu and judo. I didn't have a sled, so I used to do it to my, it was almost like, what's the machine with the arms? We have one out here, free motion. Free motion, it's kind of like a free motion,
Starting point is 00:55:48 but it actually had an attachment with a band so that the weight wouldn't slam up and down, and I do these kind of explosive rows to simulate grabbing the key, pulling, and then going into a throw, but the sled's even better. The sled is just so much more natural. Now, along those lines too, which you get, now this is something
Starting point is 00:56:04 that's very limited to where you're at. Like, if it's only been a few times I've been able to do this and I love to do it if I can get hold of it. If someone has a long enough rope that you can tie to a sled and you sit down on the ground and you actually have those two. Oh, yeah, I love those two. And then you drag, then you drag with rope.
Starting point is 00:56:17 Now, some of the gyms, I see, I know some of the new, some of the gyms actually have that. Like, you've seen a machine that has the rope that you're able to pull like that. Yeah, you have a pulley. That's like a, it's on a continuous kind of serpentine belt. Yeah, you keep pulling it and it, you can make it as tight and as hard as you want.
Starting point is 00:56:34 And what's great about those unconventional type movements like that is just your body's just not used to ever training that way. Everybody's seen a seated row, everyone's seen a barbell row, everyone's seen a dumbbell row. Like, and you've done that a million times in your workout, everyone's seen a barbell row, everyone's seen a dumbbell row. Like, and you've done that a million times in your workout, man, you really want to throw
Starting point is 00:56:48 a curve ball at your back. You know, you drag a sled like that or do some rope pulls. I mean, that's incredible. Now, you did mention T-Bar row. For me, old school T-Bar row superior to the chest supported T-Bar. Oh, yeah, yeah. By far. Standing one.
Starting point is 00:57:03 By far. Yeah. You just get standing T-Bar row. I like a relatively narrow grip, and I really can activate my lats in an exercise like that, just because of the position of the bar. And if you have a home gem, you don't need, now you can get an anchor, what do they call it, a landmine anchor,
Starting point is 00:57:19 and the relatively inexpensive, or do what I did, which was I take my bar, stick it in corner. Put in the corner of the wall. They have a handle attachment for it now too. What do you put over the bar? You just put it under the bar, like right where it ends and you just put it right up to that, like,
Starting point is 00:57:32 I got a bar on then boom. I got a bar on, because what I do is I put the V bar underneath the bar. You know that little V-fold on bar. What about machines? What about machine rows? What are some of your cable row? It's got to be one of the best.
Starting point is 00:57:43 A little pulley cable row. Yeah, sure. It's got to be up there. best. A little pulley cable row. Yeah, sure. It's got to be up there. I mean, I like messing with those hammer strength. Hammer strength is a good job. Yeah, I like the feel of hammer strength. The hammer strength. The hammer strength iso row. You should be my favorite machine.
Starting point is 00:57:55 That's another one that was popularized by Dorengate. Yeah, by far. They have a good one too. Hammer strength also has a good one where you're seated. There's a chest support. You reach up, and the grips are supinated. And when you row, they come down. So it's almost like this real low kind of row
Starting point is 00:58:11 in the last. This is a chest up, too. They have the one that comes from down up. And then it comes up, I was doing that in my last back workout. And you feel that like in the traps and rhomboids? Yeah, I got really into heavy rows for a long time. The golds gym, I don't know if it's still golds gym,
Starting point is 00:58:25 on Monoray, did they change that one to the American Barbell? Okay, so that one had dumbbells that went up to 150. And at one point, I was ripping up the 150s and just doing heavy rows. And you know, when you wanna talk about back, mid back thickness, I would say rows are probably your best bet. You wanna get that width and especially in the last,
Starting point is 00:58:46 you wanna do your pull downs, your pull ups, that kinda stuff, but just for that overall back thickness, rows, rows are king, best for that. Next question is from Moore Jojo. What characteristics or qualities do you think separates people who adhere to their fitness goals and health behaviors compared to those who don't? Did you ever notice common traits in the clients you train?
Starting point is 00:59:06 That's a cool question. Yeah, that's actually wrote a whole article on this. It's not up yet, but I'm sure it'll be up in the next few weeks. And I positioned the article like this, like the vast majority of people that work out in gyms or anywhere, the vast majority of them do it for one particular goal
Starting point is 00:59:25 or reason. And that's the change how they look. The number one goal is to change their aesthetics. But there is a minority of people that work out that don't work out necessarily for aesthetics. They enjoy the aesthetic benefits, but they really go for other reasons. Those are the people that tend to be the most consistent.
Starting point is 00:59:42 It's what I've always found. It's the people who come to the gym and they're not necessarily trying to change and sculpt their body and be lean. They've been working out for 10 years, 15 years, 20 years. And you ask them, why are you so consistent? I used to do this. Every time I had somebody who, when I'd manage a gym and I noticed that the same regulars
Starting point is 00:59:59 that came in all time and I'd look at their membership card and notice that they were members for 10 years or 15 years. I'd talk to them. I love talking to my regular members because those people kind of, they're like the mayors of the gym, if you will. And I'd talk to them, how long have you been working out? Oh, I've been working out for 15 years. How often do you work out?
Starting point is 01:00:15 Oh, four days a week. If you've always been consistent, pretty much always consistent. Why do you work out? What keeps you consistent? They never said, oh, because I like the way it makes me look. None of them ever said that.
Starting point is 01:00:27 It was always like, oh, I just love working out. I'm going to do it. It makes me feel. You say this all the time and I think it fits what we're talking about right here, which is the training because you love yourself, not because you hate yourself, right? And I think that the clients, the clients that have the real, the long, long term success and continue on, it's really easy for anybody to get motivated for a wedding coming up or Las Vegas is
Starting point is 01:00:50 in, you know, three months or you know, you're going to be on a beach and so you get motivated to look a different way or drop five pounds of fat or whatever it is, but that's not what keeps you going forever. It's the clients that I could learn and this, I didn't learn this till way later to start to help teach this and implement this. Because everybody comes to you with a goal like that. Like you and as a trainer at first,
Starting point is 01:01:11 I mean, you're in a service business. So like, oh, you come, you want to lose 10 pounds? Let me help you lose 10 pounds. That's all we're speaking to. It wasn't until later on as a trainer that I start to evolve and realize, like, man, am I really helping these people? Cause sure, I get them off 10 pounds. But then they come back and hire me eight months later again,
Starting point is 01:01:26 because they put the 10 pounds right back on. It's like, yeah, that's great for business for me, cause I'm continuing having to sell them, but I'm really not fundamentally changing these people. And what it was that I wasn't doing was, I wasn't speaking to all the other parts of health and fitness and what their exercise did for them. I wasn't asking about their stool.
Starting point is 01:01:42 I wasn't talking about their relationships with their partner. I wasn't talking about how it was improving their sleep. I wasn't talking about how it was improving their sleep. I wasn't talking about how it was improving their work ethic and their relationships with their friends. When I started to help tell my clients, like, okay, I know your goal is 10 pounds, and we're starting to go and they're like, tell me, oh, man, I feel great. I got on the scale today. I don't have down three pounds. Instead of me just celebrating the down the three pounds, I'll be, oh, that's great. I'm like, so how's your sleep going? Like, oh, did you know that, like, how's work been doing?
Starting point is 01:02:08 Are you more productive at work? I started asking all these other questions that they probably weren't connecting their weight loss with and how that impacted their life that way. And then when you help them make that switch and they finally do, they find a new motivation to go to gym. Yeah, it's great.
Starting point is 01:02:24 I need to lose 10 pounds or I wanna lose 10 pounds, but that's not why I'm going to the gym. I'm going to the gym because I'm a better person in all aspects of my life because I go to the gym. I'm better, I'm a better husband. I'm a better father. I'm a better employee or I'm a better boss. Like, holy shit, like when I'm exercising,
Starting point is 01:02:40 all these other things improve. Regardless, if my scale goes up or down, I notice that. So even if I maybe be not eating as best as I could be eating or in the best physical shape, visually, that I've ever been in, man, exercise does so many other things for my overall health. When you get a client to make that connection,
Starting point is 01:03:01 that's what separates them. Yeah, I mean, those are the ones that have put that together. They've strung all those dots together. They've been able to see productivity go up in the workplace. They've been able to see their relationships improve, their family life, all these things. Those are the ones I've had clients that, you know, most of them were early in the morning because, you know, for the most part, my best clients, the most consistent ones, the ones that wanted to be the most were typically in that window of like 5am till 8am to 10am.
Starting point is 01:03:31 They prioritize it. Yeah, that was their thing. Like, I have to have, and they wanted it to be the first thing. This is what I'm focused on solely. This is an improvement of myself, and then I can be my best self to everybody else, you know, the rest of my day. The irony is, and this is the funny part, if I were to list all of the real benefits that you get from exercise, from consistent regular fitness,
Starting point is 01:03:56 if I were to list all of the benefits that you got, and then I were to put the most important ones at the top and rank them in order. The irony is changing how you look is down the list. Changing how you look and looking good is actually one of the benefits that is not that important. No joke, it's true. If you really think of all the benefits, improved health, reductions in depression and anxiety. By the way, studies show that consistent exercise is at least as effective
Starting point is 01:04:25 as medication in the short term for helping with depressive symptoms and in the long term, might actually be better. So that's just your mental state. How much is that going to impact the rest of your life? Productivity, hormones, your bone health, your mobility, all those things. If I were to list everything, those all beat appearanceance that's the irony like if you could take a pill to give you all those things But you look the same people would spend a lot of fucking money on that pill and it's funny because it what you know What Adam and just are saying people think sounds obvious. It's not you only see what you focus on so a lot of people Almost completely don't even realize all those other benefits because all they're focusing on is the fact that they still haven't lost 15 pounds.
Starting point is 01:05:06 No, the only thing they're focused on is they have Vegas in three months, they feel fat, they know they're gonna be in a bikini and they wanna fix that, so I'm hiring you. And that's all that they're dead tunnel vision. That's it, that's it. And now here's the other side of, there's another piece of irony here, this is funny.
Starting point is 01:05:19 If you focus on exercise for all those other benefits, guess what the side effect of that is. You look better. Now, if you focus just on training because you just wanna change how you look, you might achieve changes with how you look. But over time, the decisions that you make because you're all aesthetics focused,
Starting point is 01:05:36 over time, you will compromise your health because what ends up happening is, I just wanna change how I look, diet isn't always what's ideal, it ends up turning into more starving myself and binging. I start to develop a better relationship. Exercise turns into punishment. Uh oh, I need to get in shape real quick.
Starting point is 01:05:51 I look ugly, I'm fat, whatever. So over time, you actually start to sacrifice health in pursuit of aesthetics. And when ends up happening when you're health declines, what do you lose? Aesthetics. So the irony of this is, and this is again, this is, we've worked in gyms for decades, the most
Starting point is 01:06:07 consistent people, and I mean day in, day out, they're there, it is part of their life, it's not a struggle for them, it's not like they wake up and like, I got a motive state, motivate myself to get up and go to the gym. No, just what they do. It's just a part of their life. It's just a part of their life. Those people, they don't work out for the aesthetics. Now, they look phenomenal.
Starting point is 01:06:29 All of them look phenomenal. They've been working out for years, but that's not why they go to the gym. They go to the gym because they understand the true and real life value that it brings them. So if you can start to understand fitness through this lens, and all you have to do is focus on it. It's all you have to do. It doesn't take, it's not magic. Just start to realize and focus on it over time.
Starting point is 01:06:51 You will always be consistent. It will never be an issue. It will become something that you prioritize. If you focus on your aesthetics, in and out, you're going to be in and out of the gym always, all the time. It's always that way. Unless a super body obsessed and extremely insecure about your appearance, in which case you'll probably be very consistent, but again, over time, you won't look any better and you will lose your health. Next question is from Nick Zaneis. For people trying to sleep back on a budget,
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Starting point is 01:07:53 Like, there's some major steps that you can take to being a, being, you know, sleep hacking or getting better sleep than buying anything whatsoever. So I think that's important to say that, and important to note that. The more important than buying things. Right, the more of an impact. Right, as much as I use my Felix Gray every night,
Starting point is 01:08:12 I use my Chili Patterns, and I love it, but I also did steps before that to already step in that direction for those things to really enhance already what I was already focused on. And right away what comes to mind to me, and I know Salah said this before on the show multiple times, enhance already what I was already focused on. And right away what comes to mind to me, and I know Sal has said this before
Starting point is 01:08:27 on the show multiple times, and that it's one of those things that we actually just, we don't put any focus on. Everybody has like a routine, like you get up, like I guarantee everybody has somewhat of a morning routine, even if it is as basic as mine, which is like get up coffee, brush my teeth, shower, like that's still a routine.
Starting point is 01:08:43 You know, I don't ever not shower, I don't ever not brush my teeth, I don't ever not have coffee, like that teeth, shower, like that's still a routine. You know, I don't ever not shower, I don't ever not brush my teeth, I don't ever not have coffee. Like, that's a routine. I do that every single morning. But before I started to make this, like a routine for my, I never had one. It was like, you go to bed when you get tired,
Starting point is 01:08:56 when your body, when your eyes can't stay open anymore, or you're done watching your favorite show, or whatever, that was how you went to sleep. And there was no like getting ready for sleep, the same way we get ready for our day. It's not on your bed. Yeah, but when you start to realize the value of sleep and how important it is to us,
Starting point is 01:09:16 how we improve on all levels, man, you start to say, wow, I don't ever even think about it. What if I just start thinking about that and think, okay, is it best for me to be staring at a computer screen, a phone, or a television two minutes before I try and close my eyes and go sleep? No, not at all. In fact, there should be at least a two-hour window before you think you're going to settle down and go to bed.
Starting point is 01:09:41 Do I leave my bright-ass, bright fucking lights on in my bedroom till I shut them off and try and go to sleep? Not a good idea, either. If I'm gonna try and settle my brain, that bright blue light makes tricks my brain into thinking it's daylight still. I used to have this funny thing. Like I used to think eating super early
Starting point is 01:10:00 was just for old seniors, senior citizens. You know, it was like this thing where like, man, I'm not gonna do that for old seniors, senior citizens. You know, it was like this, this thing where like, you know, man, I'm not gonna do that. It's for old people, whatever. I started to be more intentional about that and stop eating, you know, seven o'clock was the latest. I would make myself like dinner. And that was a game changer in terms of sleep
Starting point is 01:10:20 and digestion for me. And that was a very simple thing that I could control consistently. And it was all just about, you know, again, like being intentional about it and focusing on, look, this is, this needs to happen for me to sleep better. And so therefore, I'm going to make it a priority. I am going to start dimming my lights down. I am going to put, you know, parameters out there. So it will improve, you know, the result of when I wake up, I'm going to feel refreshed versus not. You guys have ever noticed how, and I know people listening will have noticed this, you've ever noticed how when you were a kid or maybe now as an adult, when you go to, when you
Starting point is 01:10:54 went to the beach or you went swimming with your friends or maybe now your kids just them when they go swimming, go to the beach, you ever notice how hard and good they sleep? Yeah. You ever know that? Yeah. I've always noticed as a kid, my aunt had a pool, and whenever we'd go there and go swimming, I remember I'd come home and when it was bedtime and I would sleep and I'd sleep so hard. And I thought it was, I'm like, oh, maybe it's swimming, it's the activity.
Starting point is 01:11:17 Right, it's the activity, but no, it's not. It's the sun, it's the sun. Yeah. It's the sunlight. When you would get a lot of sun exposure during the day, it actually sets your circadian rhythm. So the more sunlight you get during the day, it's very strongly correlated to the better sleep you're gonna get at night.
Starting point is 01:11:32 The less sunlight you get during the day, the less good your sleep is gonna be in the evening. So this is a sleep hack. Get sunlight during the day. Now, if you work indoors, maybe you can sit next to the window, go for walks outside if you drive a car with a sunroof, open the sunroof so the sun comes down on you,
Starting point is 01:11:49 but sun exposure during the day has a very positive effect on sleep. That and the sleep routine, which I tell people, one to two hours before you go to bed, shut off all electronics, move around with very dim light, speak softly. So no more yelling or whatever, it's night time now
Starting point is 01:12:07 where you're getting ready to go to bed. So talk softly with your kids, with your spouse, maybe read a book, do things that kind of settle you down and get you for sleep. Do those two things, sunlight the day and night just have an hour sleep routine. And by the way, that hour before doesn't mean like, you're wasting an hour, I think people think,
Starting point is 01:12:24 oh, I'm gonna do an hour sleep routine. You need a book, to your journal, do your gratitude. Yeah, dude, you could still do things, just have like dim lights in the house. I use Himalayan salt lamps throughout the house, because they emit a really... I love those. Aren't they great?
Starting point is 01:12:37 They emit a soft red glow, and so I put them throughout the house, we turn off all the lights. You could still see, it's just dark, it feels like there's a fire like there's like a fire, it's like fire light or whatever. And we just move around, everybody sleeps better. But sunlight, it's a big one.
Starting point is 01:12:51 A lot of people don't realize it. Like the less sun you have during the day, the harder it's gonna be for you to go to sleep. And now if you're thinking about it, when if you're listening to this, put it together. Think of all the times you've been outside all day long and what that ends up happening, what that does to your sleep at night,
Starting point is 01:13:05 makes a huge difference. Those two things far better than all the gadgets and blue blockers, glasses and all the things you could do, way, way, way, way more effective. Here's a third one that you can do. Make sure you're cool at night. So for some people, that means you have to have your AC on other people sleep naked
Starting point is 01:13:24 or sleep with very little clothing on. So, you go to your window open. Yeah, cool, a cool body temperature tells the body and the brain, it's time to go to sleep. You combine those three things and do them consistently watch what happened. Now, you can see why we've partnered up, though, with all those companies.
Starting point is 01:13:37 It's the reason why we accepted those companies. Because they work with those things. Because exactly, all those main things, right? So, I know, and this is how I use these companies, like there's a day, there's days where I know I would be ideal that I get out and get the sun, but the truth of the matter is sometimes it doesn't happen. So I love having that juice light in there.
Starting point is 01:13:54 Like that's, and that's how I use it when I need to. I would weigh rather and I always try to do the sun and not use the juice. That's my goal is to not use it, but I have it there for that reason. Same thing goes for my Felix Gray glasses. Oh, I would rather me discipline myself, not look at my phone, not watch TV,
Starting point is 01:14:13 not do anything on electronics, beyond seven o'clock, that way the last two or three hours in my house, I wonder what the reality is, I tend to be looking at my phone, I tend to be watching TV till 8, 19 o'clock. So I just discipline myself to put my glasses on. I would also like to have 50 something degrees in my house,
Starting point is 01:14:30 but I obviously can't have that anymore with my kids. So the chili pad has done wonders for me because it keeps the bed cool. Like so you don't need those things. There's ways to do this all naturally, and it's better. We'll all stand by that, regardless of being sponsored by any of these companies,
Starting point is 01:14:45 we would always promote somebody, just like the whole natural food thing. Does it mean that there's not value in having a protein shake or using a green juice every once in a while? But the idea is that we're always striving to get it all whole food or the natural way first, but these tools, they're nice to have
Starting point is 01:15:04 when you can't do that or you miss it and then you supplement the same way. It's no different with this. Next question is from Mindfully Mel. I've been seeing a lot of this all-in approach. Influencers are claiming they're doing it to gain control over extreme hunger and eventually get their body to plateau to where their body is supposed to be naturally. So are you guys, I have no idea what this is.
Starting point is 01:15:26 So I'll tell you, so there's these fitness influencers on Instagram who are a lot of them are female and they always post pictures of themselves being lean and skinny or whatever. And there's this trend now where they're posting that they're gonna go all in with diet. Like that's it, I have all this crazy hunger. I want my body, I want my period to come back normally.
Starting point is 01:15:48 I want to feel healthy again. And they're doing this what's called this all-in approach where they just go crazy with food and eat a whole bunch. So one of them has been eating, one in particular, should be eating close to 5,000 calories. A day and it's gained 30 pounds in a two month period
Starting point is 01:16:01 to get her, and the goal is to get your body to its natural body weight. What? Yeah. Now, you know, and the reason why I picked this question is because I want to address this. This is something that that the space fitness space does very well. They take some good knowledge, some good nuggets of information, and then they pathologize it and turn it into more issues, more problem. Bastardized. Yeah, so like, okay, there is some good nuggets here.
Starting point is 01:16:29 The extreme dieting, the restricting, the body image issues that cause a lot of these people and particular women to consume really, really low calories over long periods of time to achieve an ideal that's almost impossible, where they lose their menstruation, the hormones go out of whack, they don't feel good. It, yes, they do need to eat more. They need to eat more food,
Starting point is 01:16:47 they need to allow their body to gain some weight, even gain some body fat, so they can normalize and become more healthy. That's true. Going about it by saying, I'm gonna eat as much as I can, or as much as I want to, and go from one extreme, which is 1200 calories,
Starting point is 01:17:00 or whatever, to 5,000 calories a day. There's another word for that. And that's the restrict binge type mentality. It's the other coin or excuse me, the other side of the eating disorder or bad food relationship coin. So if you have a coin that's the food relationship issue on one side, it's starving yourself
Starting point is 01:17:20 and over working out. The other side is just binging and saying, I don't care, whatever. So when you see these types of things, that's not the kind of advice that you want. When I work with people who are super restricted for long periods of time, I never tell them, okay, he's what I want you to do. Go all in, eat everything, get your body to normalize. What? No. It's a slow process. Here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna slowly increase your calories. It's focus on strength.
Starting point is 01:17:47 And let's build a good relationship with food. This is not a good relationship with food. I feel like this is just another attempt for influencers to try and survive because it's a dying breed. Total. Oh my God. It's a dying, thank God.
Starting point is 01:17:58 Finally. It's a dying breed. And the numbers are supporting it now. Yeah, talk about those articles. Less than let, yeah. It's been, it's reduced by 50%. That's a big jump in just like the last year.
Starting point is 01:18:09 In terms of what influencers, yeah, just what's it actually having influence. Saying how many people are actually engaging in the post that are actually clicking through and buying things from these people that are actually doing anything of these people are saying, less and less people are giving a fuck.
Starting point is 01:18:21 And it's just, it's just good. And who wasn't we were just talking to the other day that said that we were fitness influencers. And I wanna make something really fucking clear on the shows that I do not think that the three of us are fitness influencers. Maybe you think that because we influence whatever, but we did not get into this space trying to be influencers.
Starting point is 01:18:40 We saw an opportunity to build a business in this space because there was so much crap information And we're like this is gonna be easy. All we have to do is go out tell truth tell the truth and share good science-based Massive difference in that approach and in the other approach that we see out there just trying to pedal something right on the Gate or just get attention to then influence people to buy shit like that We didn't know it was not let's become big influencers No, it was never ever that intention whatsoever. It was, there's a need in the market.
Starting point is 01:19:09 We saw the need in the market. And that is what it is. It's not, I do not consider myself an influencer. I know what I have. It makes me angry. It does. I don't, who wasn't, to say that. I don't know, dude.
Starting point is 01:19:19 So many said that just recently we were together. It was a Christina. I don't know, maybe. We had just like mentioned it. Yeah, we were with so many. I'm like, don't fucking put L like mentioned it. Yeah, we were with so, like, don't fucking put lumpists in that. We are not that. We're three normal fucking guys.
Starting point is 01:19:29 Just a bunch of trainers that have been doing this for a really fucking long time happen to be really good at our jobs and saw a massive opportunity in our space. Saw that there are a bunch of influencers in this space giving out a bunch of bullshit. Yeah, they were like, you know, given our clients the wrong information that we were having to kind of deconstruct and then tell them
Starting point is 01:19:48 the right thing to do. And so it was out of frustration, really. Yeah, no, it reminds me of, it's also, you've seen this trend, right, with the influencer, you know, girls in particular, where now they're posting pictures of themselves, sitting down so you can see their little fat roll, or like, this is me without makeup, or, or taking a shit, you know, posting little fat roll or like this is me without
Starting point is 01:20:05 makeup or. Or take a shit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, like it's just another way. Here's look how real I am. It's a very staged photo. It's a very, you know, look, gain attention type of deal.
Starting point is 01:20:16 No, listen, over like restricting yourself, starving yourself, overworking yourself, that's a bad relationship with exercise and food. Going to eat, to deal with extreme hunger, whatever that means, to the point where you're going to see where your body goes, gaining 30 pounds in two months or whatever, that's another symptom of a bad relationship to food and exercise. Now maybe somebody can make the argument and say, well, in order for me to find my normal, I had to test both extremes. But in my experience, working with people in that, you know, starve, binge type, you know, eating, you know, type of mentality, the swings keep going. And they actually start to get worse, where the term restrictions become bigger and the term yo-yo dieting came from. Exactly what that is.
Starting point is 01:21:00 No, it's a slow process. It's about changing behaviors, and it's real hard work. Here's the thing, it's fucking hard, it's not easy. And I mean, it's hard in the real sense. Like, yes, restricting your calories every single day's hard, but for someone with body image issues, it's actually a coping mechanism. I know, I had certain body image issues, I dealt with some of this stuff, and what I did was real hard for most people. I ate six to eight meals a day.
Starting point is 01:21:27 I brought them with me to work. I never missed a workout. I took every supplement. I never ate out with friends. I did lots of it. It was real hard, but in reality, it was kind of a coping mechanism. And so this, this back and forth
Starting point is 01:21:37 that they're starting to promote, you know, and I get a little upset because I see people following them and thinking, I'm gonna do this all in an approach. And it's like, oh, now we're gonna call it something else. It's not binging, it's making myself healthy by eating, you know, 10,000 calories or 5,000 calories a day or whatever.
Starting point is 01:21:53 No, it's just the other side of the coin. It's a very slow process. Take care of yourself, and it takes some time. And with that, go to mindpumpfree.com and download our guides. They cost absolutely nothing. They're all free. You can also find us on Instagram.
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