Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1106: Whole30 Review, the Nutritional Value of Fruits Compared to Vegetables, the Dangers of Microwaves & MORE

Episode Date: August 28, 2019

In this episode of Quah, sponsored by Organifi (organifi.com/mindpump, code "mindpump" for 20% off), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about Whole30, whether vegetables and fruits carry eq...ual weight when it comes to nutritional necessity, how to best spend an hour with high school weightlifters, and whether microwaves are safe or not. Adam bringing back more fashion trends. (7:06) #MindPumpKitchen has officially launched!! (10:20) Sal and Justin recap their evening out with Chris D'Elia. How comedy plays a LARGE role in society. (13:12) Will TikTok be the next Instagram?? (20:18) Sal is FINALLY able to help his son with his homework. (22:20) The importance of cleaning out the junk/clutter from your life. (23:20) 2515 Hasbro acquires famed rap label Death Row Records. (25:15) The fallout hits Gillette hard after their ‘toxic masculinity’ ads. (26:30) Mind Pump’s touches the ‘third-rail’ on the current ‘Amazon Fire’. (27:11) KFC has now entered the ‘planet based’ market. When will the pendulum swing back? (33:04) 10 things you must consider before becoming an Uber/Lyft driver + are you safer in one than a taxi? (40:10) #Quah question #1 – What are your thoughts on the Whole30? Have you put a client on it? (46:35) #Quah question #2 – Do vegetables and fruits carry equal weight when it comes to nutritional necessity? It seems like they are always lumped together. (54:11) #Quah question #3 – If you had one hour with a high school gym class and a weight room, what would you do with them? (1:01:36) #Quah question #4 – Do you use microwaves? After diving into Paul Chek’s work, we can’t help but hesitate each time we use one. (1:06:55) People Mentioned Danny Matranga | CSCS | BSc. (@danny.matranga)  Instagram Taylor (@tayvalenz)  Instagram Chris D'Elia (@chrisdelia)  Instagram Michael Lenoci (@michaellenoci)  Instagram Kevin Hart (@kevinhart4real)  Instagram John Meadows (@johnmeadows)  Instagram Gary Vay-Ner-Chuk (@garyvee)  Instagram Robb Wolf (@dasrobbwolf)  Instagram Dr. Joseph Mercola (@mercola) · Twitter Terry Wahls MD (@drterrywahls)  Instagram Paul Chek (@paul.chek)  Instagram   Related Links/Products Mentioned MAPS OCR Launch Promotion: Discount code “OCR30” at checkout August Promotion: MAPS Prime & Prime Pro ½ off!! **Code “PRIME50” at checkout** Visit Butcher Box for this month’s exclusive Mind Pump offer! Check out Mind Pump Live to get tickets for their next live event! How TikTok Is Rewriting the World Hasbro acquires gangster rap label Death Row Records as part of $4B deal Gillette ‘Shifting The Spotlight’ After Losing $8 Billion Amid ‘Toxic Masculinity’ Backlash Why Everything They Say About The Amazon, Including That It's The 'Lungs Of The World,' Is Wrong Beyond Meat and KFC partner to test fried plant-based ‘chicken’ Parents avoid jail after strict vegan diet left 19-month-old baby without teeth, weighing 10.8 pounds I'm a driver for Uber and Lyft — here are 10 things I wish I knew before starting the job ‘Woke’ Lyft hit with 7 sexual assault lawsuits in a day Whole30 Paul Chek Blog on Microwaves Mind Pump Free Resources

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Starting point is 00:00:00 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this episode of Mind Pump, so of course we talk all about fitness health, nutrition, fat loss, muscle building. But we also talk about current events and ourselves. That's our favorite topic. We do that in the intro portion of this episode. So here's what we talk about in the first 40 minutes. We talk about Mind Pump Kitchen.
Starting point is 00:00:32 We have a new hashtag. If you hashtag Mind Pump Kitchen, you can see new foods and things created by our chefs, healthy foods. Delicioso. And we're working with butcher box meat. They're the makers of and delivers of grass-fed meat. So if you sign up with butcher box, they will deliver to your door the highest quality
Starting point is 00:00:52 grass-fed beef, chicken, and pork, bacon. They have amazing products. Scallops. They are one of our sponsors. So if you go to butcherbox.com forward slash mine pump, here's what you will get. Now this is going on between the 22nd of this month and the 29th of next month if you sign up This is crazy. You'll get ground beef for life. That's right ground beef forever new members will get two pounds of grass fed Grass finished
Starting point is 00:01:18 Taco Tuesday forever in every box for the life of your subscription again Just go to butcherbox.com-foreslash-mindpump. Then we talked about the Chris Delia comedy show, Justin and I took our girls over there and laughed our asses off. That was a lot of fun. Yeah, that was a good time. Adam brought up the social media app TikTok,
Starting point is 00:01:38 I guess that's what all the kids are using. I talked about how I was finally able to help my son with homework. It wasn't math, so I could actually help him out. Justin has a man shed in the backyard. He can now escape. Yeah. And go hide by himself. It's like a panic room for, you know, Mary guys. Death Row Records has a new owner. And you won't believe who it is or talk about it in this, but that part of this episode. We talk about how Gillette lost $8 billion because of their terrible advertising.
Starting point is 00:02:06 That's what they get. That was a mistake, guys. We go, we talk about the Amazon fire that's happening right now. And that's a third rail. So hopefully we don't piss everybody off. We talk about how KFC now has vegan nuggets, which is kind of weird.
Starting point is 00:02:19 If you don't like animals being killed, I don't know why you go to KFC in the first place. Yeah. We talk about how there was an Australian couple that almost killed their daughter by putting on her vegan diet. And then we talked about the things you need to know before becoming an Uber driver. I also want to mention that our live event is coming up. That's next month. We're going to be with Mike Matthews here in San Jose. If you want to sign up for that live event, make sure you visit mindpumpelive.com.
Starting point is 00:02:45 The tickets will be on sale as long as they are available the first come first serve. So here's the first question in the fitness portion of this episode. This person wants to know what our thoughts are on the whole 30 diet. So we kind of break it down and give our opinion. The next question, this person wants to know
Starting point is 00:03:01 if vegetables and fruits carry equal weight. Every, you always hear people say eat your food and vegetable. Which more important, vegetables or fruit? The next question, this person wants to know what we would talk to a high school gym class about if we were able to talk to some high school students. And the final question, this person wants to know what we think about micro waves. Our friend Paul Chekk says you shouldn't use them. So we give our opinion. Are micro waves. Our friend Paul Chekk says you shouldn't use him.
Starting point is 00:03:25 So we give our opinion. Our Michael Waves, okay, are they safe or are they bad? Get out the team 12 hat. Also, we have launched a brand new maps program. Maps OCR. Mee-ha! OCR stands for obstacle course race. So obstacle course races, super popular now.
Starting point is 00:03:42 Super popular now. Races like Spartan race, tough mudder. These are races that test your spirit, your mind, and your body. Now, here's the problem, training for optical course races, super confusing. What do I do? Do I just run and lift weights? What kind of mobility work do I do? Like, how do I get myself in shape?
Starting point is 00:04:02 How do I get my grip in shape? A lot of people talk about their grips being the weakest link. How do I prepare for that? Well, we've designed a program for you. In fact, this program comes with a pre-phase meaning we can get you from couch to obstacle course race. We can get you ready from beginning to end. And then for those of you that work out on your own and you're already kind of fit, you just start in phase one. So this program has everything. There's daily practices to toughen up your body, toughen up your hands, get you used to and preserve your body.
Starting point is 00:04:32 Changes in temperature, there's mobility component because OCR racing can be very demanding on the body. So we help you prevent injury, maximize your body's movement. There's endurance and stamina components. This one has running and sprinting involved, strength training, and you can do this at home. There's also a way to do this entire program at home or you can use the gym and use gym equipment.
Starting point is 00:04:57 Now this program is brand new. So we're launching it right now, which means it's $30 off, and this is going until September 1st and we're going to give you a free t-shirt and you're going to get a pair of brand new good or sunglasses. These are the sunglasses. These are the sunglasses that sponsor Amelia Boone. Amelia Boone also includes some coaching tips in this program. So she's in there talking to you and explaining to you what it's like to do a race, and answers all the common, all the secret hacks. Yeah, questions that people have, like, how do I go
Starting point is 00:05:29 underneath the barbed wire, and how do I carry the bucket, and all that kind of stuff? Oh, and by the way, if you sign up now, this is for a limited time, you'll also get 10% off a Spartan race. There's a code that you're going to get that will hook you up with a discount for the Spartan race. So again, to recap, if you go to mapsocr.com and use the code OCR30, the number of 30, no space, here's what you'll get. You'll get $30 off the brand new Maps OCR program. You'll get a free t-shirt. You'll get a pair of good or sunglasses and 10% off your Spartan race. All of this while supplies last and the discount will end September 1st. So make sure you act now. Hold on, Sal, make sure you let them know
Starting point is 00:06:13 that this is for only the first 300. So for the 10% off on the Spartan, the good or glasses, it's the first 300. So if you want that, you gotta hurry up. Oh, that's it, that'll be gone quick. So make sure you act smart. The 300. Yeah Teacher
Starting point is 00:06:28 And it's t-shirt time. Oh Shit, no, you know is my favorite time of the week This week I don't know what happened, but there's only eight reviews between Facebook and iTunes That's embarrassing people don't like Justin very much I don't know what's going on. How dare you, Pennyway. We're still giving away shirts. We have two winners. One for iTunes, one for Facebook.
Starting point is 00:06:49 We have T.J. for iTunes. Ashley Wright for Facebook. Send the name I just read to iTunes at MindPumpMedia.com. Send your shirt size, your shipping address, include your Instagram handle, and we'll get that shirt right out to you. Oh yeah. Hey, I got some cool news for our audience. Are you wearing socks with sandals, by the way?
Starting point is 00:07:09 I am bringing back this. That's like a cardinal rule right there. Yeah, I started to change the topic. I dare you. I did this because Danny was rocking this yesterday and he was making fun of Taylor about it. And I told Danny, I said, bro, that's 1996. Like, I first- Rules of change since I-
Starting point is 00:07:27 Yeah, yeah. So that's, that I used to do this when I was in high school. I have not done this since 1996. I mean, I like it. Well, I like socks all the time. So you have to be able to like go from, you know, the locker room or the weight room towards somewhere, you know, with that. So that's the idea of this, right? So that's the whole point when, or at least when we were kids, I don't know if it's turned into a style now where kids are just doing it to do it. But when we played basketball, you, first of all,
Starting point is 00:07:53 basketball sneakers never touched outside. Like that was like a rule when you were kids. So that, yeah, basketball sneakers were made for the court, only the court, and you didn't let them touch outside. So you wore your flip flops with your, you know, your Nike socks and because you want everybody to know you're serious. Yeah. Yeah. How many let everybody know I play basketball
Starting point is 00:08:12 if my basketball shoes are in my bag? Well, it's actually more of a, it was more of a convenient thing, right? So we used to be at least at our school when we were kids, you could, they would, they would open up the gym. So even at lunchtime, you could play basketball. So you would wear the sandals and socks like we are now. I'd have my, I'd always have my, you know,
Starting point is 00:08:32 basketball sneakers and my locker and my gym bag with me. And then come lunchtime, you go straight to the court and you just gotta throw your sandals off or click, throw your basketball shoes on, you're good to go. Yeah, right, right. So next level is when you have, because you have the sandals off or click, throw your basketball shoes on, you're good to go. You're rock and roll. Yeah, right, rock and roll. But now, next level is when you have, because you have the sandals where the strap is over the foot.
Starting point is 00:08:49 The Jesus sandals. Next level is when you have the one that goes in between your toes with soft stones. Then you're an asshole. Oh, really? Yeah, you don't do that. That's how I do it. No, yeah, you would do that.
Starting point is 00:08:59 You do everything that you've done. You know what it reminds me of? What? It reminds me of the ninja shoes. You ever see the ninja shoes? There's always, it looks like one toe was separated from the rest. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:08 It's like ninja turtle. It looks like the camel toe shoes. Yeah. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah, it's all waged. That's what I like to do. That's what I like to do. It just feels comfortable.
Starting point is 00:09:15 I don't know. Yeah. I'm just buying this new style. Yeah. I don't, you know, I was kind of comfortable this morning. What, how it happened, right? It wasn't well planned. Yesterday, Danny did the post.
Starting point is 00:09:26 I was DM back and forth teasing about it, saying like, that was 1996. He was like, I was one years old. So obviously he doesn't remember this. It was his one year old. Yeah, so according to him, like, he thinks this is like a thing now, right? And I'm like, no,
Starting point is 00:09:39 he thinks he invented it. Well, I think he, anyway, put this together. I think he did it teasing Taylor first. And I think Taylor's like an old soul, right? He's one of this together. I think he did a tease in Taylor first, and I think Taylor's like an old soul, right? He's one of those guys who's, he's always listening to his license. 90s R&B. Yeah, and favorite music of all time.
Starting point is 00:09:52 He's got on his license plate. Yeah. What does it say? 90s R&B. Oh, that's hilarious. That's his license plate. Oh my God. You didn't know that?
Starting point is 00:10:01 Taylor, what are you doing? He probably got hit the hearts with the R Kelly stuff, you know? Yeah, I think you broke his heart. I think it was depressed for like three months Dude I could be peeing on air by man. Yeah, he's like one of my favorite members. He's still a phantom. Yeah, but his music's good. Yeah, but he's talented. Yeah, right So anyways, I was gonna start this podcast off on talking about Something that we just did recently. This was really cool.
Starting point is 00:10:27 So I know Rachel had been working on this for a while. We've been talking about this in the show for a long time and it's finally here. So I'm excited that we're doing this now. And it's just another way to enhance the experience for any mind and pump listeners or people that are following us on social media. Mind pump kitchen has been officially launched.
Starting point is 00:10:48 And it's starting off as just weekly post on Instagram. We've collaborated with, I believe it's my paleo chef. I'll get this Instagram. We tag him every time he actually posts for us. So he's actually taking the photos. He's putting, he's a chef and he's creating these incredible recipes. And it was cool because Rachel reached out
Starting point is 00:11:11 to Butcherbox the other day and asked if they would actually ship over Butcherbox to him. So he received a bunch of stuff and then he took the meat from there and made a recipe. So you can go to the hashtag, if you follow the hashtag, Mind Pump Kitchen, you can start to follow all the recipes. Or is that Thai basil one he did just recently? That's the butcher box one, man.
Starting point is 00:11:34 That looked delicious though. Healthy and delicious. Yeah, that's the idea. So right now, you'll get an image of it, you'll get the recipe and then the cooking instructions on how to do it. Of course, the future is hopefully we'll start to do videos that we'll later on live in YouTube and things like that. But for now, you can guarantee that there'll be a post every single week with a new recipe. It'll be healthy, but it also tastes amazing. Is Doug going to, are Doug are you going gonna contribute your Brussels Sprout recipe?
Starting point is 00:12:05 It's a possibility. I would love that. I would love that. Yeah, I think eventually I think we'll all... It's legendary. Contribute to it. Really? Broccoli?
Starting point is 00:12:14 Yeah. I guess I should say. Ingredients. I'll do like nuggets. Yeah. Just in flake we'll have nuggets and ketchup. It's a new thing I just came up with. What the fuck is this mind-pump kitchen?
Starting point is 00:12:27 This is delicious. I still find it doug and I like to make healthy good recipes. So maybe doug and I will contribute to this. No, actually, I mean, I did have, so butcher box also has chicken, and flus and I didn't come up with it. It was in my idea or anything. Like Courtney does really put some good stuff together.
Starting point is 00:12:44 Like, so if you got a Caprici salad, so it was basically the same kind of ingredients, but with chicken. It wasn't my idea or anything. Courtney does really put some good stuff together. So if you got a Caprici salad, so it was basically the same kind of ingredients, but with chicken. So it had like- So the chicken, the mozzarella, the basil, and then the vinegar on top, the balsamic vinegar. Say mozzarella.
Starting point is 00:12:59 Mutsu- You said it. Mutsu- Yes, see, you almost did it. I was trying. And I said, I'm trying to give you. That sounds really good. So it's cold, you cook it up, chop it up, and then put it. Mutsure. Yes, see. Almost did it. I was trying. I was trying to give you.
Starting point is 00:13:07 That sounds really good. So it's cold. You cook it up, chop it up, and then put it in the fridge, and you have it cold. It's good. Speaking of that, who'd you go see this weekend, Justin? We's Kristalia. I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:13:17 I don't know. I don't know. You guys got me both confused because I've heard it like two different ways now. I mean, that's how I read it. I think it's Delia. Delia, please. It's Krist best. Anyway, he's hilarious. Oh, hilarious. Yeah, you guys went. Oh my god. So it's this new act. It's this new bit that he's doing and he's going to be recording. Didn't he say he was going to be recording
Starting point is 00:13:35 like next week? The Netflix special. Yeah. So he had the first, you know, we got to see it before it comes out. Oh, so this was this all new material? All new. Oh, cool. It was awesome. Nothing. So when you're somebody who like all of us are all into comedy, so we watch a lot of comedy, whether it be Netflix or you go, you know, it's, it's, I watch a lot.
Starting point is 00:13:54 It sucks when you go and you watch a show and you've already heard like all the jokes. Yeah, that's happened to me. You know what was funny was this opener. Yeah. What's that guy's name? Something look, man, we got to pull up his name. Maybe Doug can Google comedian that opens for Chris Delia, Delia, because I want to give
Starting point is 00:14:12 the guy, I want to give the guy some props, because he was also absolutely hilarious. His Dictal, the black closer, his closing bit on this whole thing about sex was just so funny. Like Courtney was crying. So did you guys like Chris's this one better than his last one? Or what? Yes. I think it was. Yeah, I think it was better. I think it was excellent.
Starting point is 00:14:31 He's always good. The guy always kills. His Instagram destroys me. I cannot look at his, what's his name? How do you pronounce his name? Brian Kellen. No, no, no, no, his opener. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:40 Yeah, we got it. We got to get his name, Doug. I got to give him a plug. Yeah, well, oh, there it is. Michael, Michael Anocchi. There you go. Michael Anocchi. Nice.
Starting point is 00:14:51 It's his at Michael Anocchi. Oh, yeah. So he's been traveling with Chris in just hilarious. No, he's, yeah, he's mastered. I think it was like, what, like 30 minutes set that he did, but he just, the whole thing super tight and he killed it. Dude, you know what I did not realize? So, there's a stereotype about comedians, right?
Starting point is 00:15:09 Where they're kind of disturbed, and they have like bad childhoods. You guys know that, right? You've heard that stereotype. Right, right, yeah. Most of them are really dark. Yeah, well, the humor's always real dark, but they have kind of like bad past or whatever,
Starting point is 00:15:21 and kind of fuels their comedy. Did you know that, that Chris D'Alia had, I'm gonna fuck up his name again. He's never, ever had alcohol, never, ever tried a single drug and had a really good childhood. He's like, parents that loved him. So he like put that all in there in the heart of his material. I didn't know that.
Starting point is 00:15:38 He's never had alcohol. He's supposed to be damaged. Never had alcohol, never had, not even tasted, not even tried, ever. Yeah. Oh, interesting. That's weird. This it isn't doesn't really Doesn't DL Hugley have some like a somewhere is it DL Hugley or is it
Starting point is 00:15:51 What's the other big comedian right now that has the that we always talk about? He's fucking probably the most famous comedian right now. I can't think of his name. Oh, you're talking about oh man Short guy. Yeah, why can't he was Justine you're coming to go I am I am see it's contagious you guys have like okay I wanted to say Chris rock but I can't believe either one of you assholes know that I'm off your head right now Oh dude hangs out with the rock all the time of course. Yes, of course. What's his name? Of course she good Yes, Kevin Hart, Jesus, Bunch of assholes, dude. What a bunch of.
Starting point is 00:16:26 Anyway, I'm embarrassed for that one. It's either Kevin Hart or DL Huluie has a childhood that was like, I mean, suburbia, like just fine. Like he wasn't like a, because most of them are, most of them have a fucked up story. And like you said, that's kind of their outlet. But ironically, I think some of the bigger guys now aren't like that.
Starting point is 00:16:46 Yeah, I know. Maybe because nowadays it takes more than just being dark and humorous. I feel like if you're a comedian today, you have to be pretty business savvy. Mm-hmm. Because it's not just like, I mean, I've heard these guys talk before about how,
Starting point is 00:17:00 some of the most funniest people you'll meet, they say are undiscovered. You'll never get to see them. Well, from what I've heard, this is at all not anywhere in my expertise, but from what I've heard, comedians often say that you need like five to 10 years. Yeah, 10 is what I hear. Yeah, I've just stand up before you even can break through.
Starting point is 00:17:19 It's like a lot of work. And to put that much effort and energy into something that's not making you any money, you know, it's an art art and a lot of art is driven by, I hate to say challenge and pain, you know, I'm saying. But I don't know if it's true. I mean, it would be interesting to see real statistics, but I know that's the stereotype. And it all depends on the style of your comedy too, you know, like I think there's definitely, you could get that, like you have to be authentic in it. So it has to like reflect your own experience. You can't just like portray somebody that's like, you could get that. You have to be authentic in it. So it has to reflect your own experience. You can't just portray somebody that's had all these crazy things happen to him and
Starting point is 00:17:51 didn't really happen. Well, sometimes I feel like part of why Kevin Hart is so massive is, I mean, he's good. Don't get me wrong. His comedy is hilarious. It's great. But I don't think he's even a top 10 comic as far as his act and his bit and his comedy, but he'll go down in history as one of them. He's a beast of business wise.
Starting point is 00:18:11 Yeah, he's a fucking savage. He can generate insane sales. He has to be one of the top. What would you, how would you rate, like rate the top? He'll be top all time. Just in terms of money. Money, 100%. Money and success.
Starting point is 00:18:24 He's probably top all time. Just in terms of money. Money, 100%. Money and success. He's probably number one already. I don't know anybody who's probably generated more revenue than he has. Especially if you get to count movies and all the other things that he does. Well, stand up has become so massive now. At one point, I think it was in the 80s and 90s that really started to take off,
Starting point is 00:18:38 but now because of Netflix and Amazon Prime and stuff like that, stand up comedy is becoming a real big deal because back in the day, you didn't necessarily go and rent a VHS of comedy. I think Eddie Murphy was probably one of the first comedians to kind of do that, right? Because before that, where would you get their material? Prior, Richard Prior.
Starting point is 00:19:02 Or was he on VHS? Yeah, so, so. I'm never watching that. Yeah, cause showtime in HBO were the ones that really promoted stand-up comedy. Yeah. Before that, I don't know, I don't know. I think it was Vegas. You had to go to Vegas to listen to him.
Starting point is 00:19:14 Yeah. And now you have Netflix and Amazon and Hulu and it's a big, it's a big genre on Netflix. Yeah, there's a huge specials floating around. All kind of, yeah, Amazon's a big one. Now they just started to, they had like Jim Gaffkin and they had Lonzo Bowden, I think. Yeah, I think the formula has been the same. It's just exploded.
Starting point is 00:19:31 Those comedy clubs have been around forever. So I think that it was the same. You would go to comedy clubs, but it was just more underground. It was, you know, you know, if you were in a comedy, it was probably a little more like how UFC was when it first started the first decade. Well, comedy plays a very important role in society,
Starting point is 00:19:45 especially stand up comedians, because they have the ability to say the things that people want to think. Honestly, but I can't say. I think that's why it's so popular right now, and I've been waiting for it. I think like the biggest thing of going to a show like that was just laughing amongst everybody about like,
Starting point is 00:20:02 because everybody's just so tight and walking around these days and like so worried about like, you know, pissing somebody off or saying something wrong or being unpolicly correct and it's just like, it's so relieving to just sit there and like, you know, like talk shit and bullshit.
Starting point is 00:20:16 Speaking of this climate and everybody's so sensitive and shit, you know, South brought up, I don't know, it was probably three months or more. Maybe it was six months, it was somewhere between three and six months ago when you brought up, I don't know, it was probably three months or more. Maybe it was six months, it was somewhere between three and six months ago when you brought up TikTok. I saw that our buddy John Meadows
Starting point is 00:20:30 was at one of the last Gary Vee talks and was asking Gary Vee about TikTok. And he's pushing the shit out of it right now. Yeah, his stance is that he thinks it may be like the next kind of Instagram. And with the social media platforms, you have a huge advantage if you're one of the first people on there to kind of do well. Like if you were the first Instagram people and you got
Starting point is 00:20:53 some some notoriety through that, then as the whole platform grew, you would blow up. So that was kind of his, that was what he was kind of talking about. But I don't understand TikTok that much. It's definitely being used by the younger younger generation. It's well, it's very a vine-esque, you know, it has, it's kind of talking about, but I don't understand Tick Talk that much. It's definitely being used by the younger younger generation. It's well, it's very vine-esque. You know, it has, it's kind of a vine slash periscope, slash Instagram all blended into one, I feel like. That's what it looks like to me.
Starting point is 00:21:17 And to me, it's like what you brought up way back when, which is it seems to be the counter culture. The younger younger generation, and I 100% attribute this to the meme culture, because the meme culture, which is today's political cartoons, memes are very often not politically correct. In fact, memes can be extremely dark. Some of the darkest you may have ever seen on memes, which is why I like them so much. And my son's generation, these young teenagers are all over
Starting point is 00:21:47 the memes. You know the memes that I post on my story? Yeah. I'll show my son and he'll like, oh, I saw that one last month. Oh, that's a year old. Oh, that's like, yeah. Oh, I saw that one. And I'm like, what the, so he, they're all up and up on these on this whole meme culture and they're all super politically incorrect. Where do you get them wall. Is it Reddit? Is it Reddit? Yeah. I think Reddit's where everybody shares them and then they get uploaded. And you see which ones are good or not.
Starting point is 00:22:09 Oh, really? So that's kind of the place to, there's other places too, but if you want to see them kind of hit the, you like farm them there. Yeah, exactly. Okay, here we go. I'm speaking, where are you guys gonna come up with?
Starting point is 00:22:18 Speaking of my boy, I had this wonderful moment this weekend. I got to help him with his homework. First time you could do it. You know, yeah, yeah, some history homework. And that never changes. That never gets harder.
Starting point is 00:22:31 Yeah, and I love history. And it was, we're world war two always is happening at the same time. Yeah, exactly. And it was just it. It was a speech that he had to kind of break down. So I got to help him with it.
Starting point is 00:22:42 Because normally if this kid's math homework, he can't go to dad. You know what I mean? They ain't gonna ask me, I never asked me for help on his homework at all. Only to actually two times. This last time with his history homework and then one time when he had to make a podcast,
Starting point is 00:22:56 then he asked me, I was all super excited that I could help him. But he knows better than the ass dad for any kind of help. What part of history is he studying right now? This was Greek history. Yeah, it was Athens in particular. So we had a nice fun discussion about that. It was pretty cool.
Starting point is 00:23:10 Nice. I was all happy about that. Otherwise, if it's math, I'm like, yeah, dude. You're on your own, dude. Use Google. That's how you're gonna find out that that changes all the time. Anyway, what'd you do this weekend? I was actually was clearing everything out
Starting point is 00:23:24 and basically, went on a bunch of dump runs with the kids. I feel like that's so necessary. Like I need them to grab things and throw them away. Oh yeah. Like this is a good healthy practice. And man, it feels good once you get all this clutter and junk and stuff outside of your house. And so I kept going and I'm like, oh, wow, I'm on a roll.
Starting point is 00:23:48 So I'm gonna keep going. I had this shed that I don't use except for just stuffing crap in it. And I literally got rid of everything. Got rid of everything. I felt so good when you do that. Oh my God, and then I organized the whole thing. So now I turned it into like tools.
Starting point is 00:24:03 Like I put all my tools in there. It's like this little shed. And then I was like thinking about what we were talking about earlier Adam with your situation. You know, I'm like, I got a shed now, I got a place I can hide. You know, like this is my own space. Like I, so I found myself there for hours,
Starting point is 00:24:20 just like staring at things. I did, I didn't even go back to the house, they were doing things. And I'm just like, you know, in my own little world, just like staring at things. No, you did it. I did, I didn't even go back to the house. They were doing things. And I'm just like, you know, in my own little world, just like organizing things. And, you know, you start to, oh yes. You start to understand the stereotype of the dad
Starting point is 00:24:34 who disappears. He had his garage or something like that. 100% I get that already, dude. You're just to get away. Dude, I'm the 50s dad. I might as well have a flat top. First thing I mean. And I'm just like tinkering on stuff.
Starting point is 00:24:45 I think that's probably the Katrina's favorite thing about having a kid now is like, I find excuses to go do work around the house, you know what I'm saying? But yeah, just like, hey, can I get your help? I was like, oh no, I'm actually just rearranging the garage right now. She's like, oh, okay, that's great. Hey, can I get your help? No, I'm actually under the house today,
Starting point is 00:25:01 and I'm actually gonna organize all the boxes on any there to make sure that we know exactly what the Christmas stuff is. Uh-oh, okay. Sorry, I'm off to go wash the cars right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've always got chores to do. That's hilarious. Dude, I read a crazy article.
Starting point is 00:25:15 I read a crazy article. Yeah. You guys are not gonna believe this. So you guys remember death row records? Yeah, man. Yeah, death row records. That was, who was that? That was a Snoop Dogg, Dr. Dre. That was, is that that was a Snoop dog Dr. Dre that was okay
Starting point is 00:25:26 Guess you bought them who you'll never guess who bought death row death row records to pop no Too pop His hologram has bro How's bro the gummy bears? No, come on bro. That's horrible. That's horrible Come on bro, that's horrible. That's horrible. They only GI Joe. That's horrible That's the coming fear. No has bro the company that owns Furby's my little pony I Joe the toy franchise. Oh, they bought Close that was the gummy bears. It's hell close. What are they gonna do with death row records? I don't know That's kind of funny death row. Yes, dude like should night
Starting point is 00:26:03 This is he like still He's in jail of it like do they buy him with it like what how's that? I don't know but they own death row records now It was in the source and I read the title and I was like this can't be real sure as hell is what are they gonna do? Make a bunch of 90s dolls. Yeah, I don't know and he's dolls some big chains. I don't know does death row even make music anymore? I don't know, does Death Row even make music anymore? I don't know. That's a good question. That was a good question.
Starting point is 00:26:27 And speaking of business, remember how last week I brought up how Gillette was changing their advertising strategy because their toxic masculinity strategy turned the backfire. Ooh, backfire. You know how much money they lost and share value? How much? From that $8 billion.
Starting point is 00:26:42 $8 billion? $8 billion. Oh, the fucking way. $8 billion, $8 billion. Oh, the fucking way. $8 billion, they lost. Wow. So this is all shares, like people just like dropped. I believe so. Yeah, I forgot how they said it.
Starting point is 00:26:53 It's not like $8 in profit, but yeah, they lost $8 billion in fact. I don't even feel bad for them. Wow. They did that themselves, man. Well, this is what happens. You know, you roll that dice. You take that gamble of like woman totally divide my audience. I have a question for you
Starting point is 00:27:07 So you're gonna get mad that I'm bringing this up to or does me get mad Because it's it I'm gonna try we try your best to not get super political about it. Oh, you don't want me to rant? Yeah, I do have a question because I don't know a lot about it And so I just want it. I want to be more informed the whole Yes, the fire dude, you got it, you got to school me on what's going on. The Amazon fire? Yes.
Starting point is 00:27:29 Oh man. So because here's, here's why I'm asking because I've got several, everyone's DMing me about it and I've, and everyone's like up and arms over it. Okay, so, and I've, and I've read some things about it that, uh, some, there's alarmist all about it that are freaking out and making it be. And then I for other people be like calm the fuck down.
Starting point is 00:27:47 All right. So it's not even our biggest year of fires. So two things I want to address. Number one, the Amazon has been called the Earth's lungs. That's actually scientifically inaccurate. The vast majority of the oxygen that's produced by by plants is produced by marine plants, algae in particular, something like 70 to 80%. The real statistic in terms of the amount of oxygen that the Amazon is producing is probably closer to six to 8% of the earth's oxygen. Now that's still a ton, that's a lot.
Starting point is 00:28:16 So I'm not trying to diminish anything, but I wanted to say that because a lot of people kept saying the Amazon produces 20%, 30%, 40% of the Earth's oxygen, that's actually more extreme. Yeah, that's not true. Every year there's a fire season that happens in the Amazon and we're in it. And NASA, actually on the official NASA website, talked about whether or not this year was worse than others. Now this year is far worse than last year. Something like 80% more fires at the same time last year when you compare this year. But that's how fires tend to work in the wild.
Starting point is 00:28:52 If there's less fires this year, less of that brush gets burned off than the following year tends to go up. So what NASA did is they published broader data and they said in their data on the actual NASA website that this is not out of the ordinary when you compare over the last 15 years. So over the last 15 years, this kind of follows along the average of the fires that have happened in the Amazon.
Starting point is 00:29:18 Now the fires are largely happening on farmland. So these are farmers who are burning off, you know, old grass or whatever, to put new grass. So in that burning, so it's, it's not burning Amazon trees. They're not going in the forest and burning trees. So it's controlled.
Starting point is 00:29:34 Yes, I believe a lot of them are controlled and human started. Now here's why there's a lot of uproar. Now first off, the slash and burn, burn plants and then farm, that's been something that environmentalists have had an issue with for a very, very long time. So this has been happening for a very, very long time. But the reason why everybody
Starting point is 00:29:53 so up and arms about it right now is because, you know, Leonardo Caprio posted about it, and it's become politicized. So I'm not saying it's good or bad. I'm just saying the reason why we're seeing it uproar now is because it's become now a politicized. This is what politics do is they take a topic and they'll turn it into a weapon. Yeah, gasoline to their cause. Yeah, they'll turn it into a weapon to fight each other. So no, this is not, and this is based off of NASA's statistics and websites. This is not my opinion. I'm not an environmentalist, I'm not an expert on this at all. I just went literally off of what the NASA website says,
Starting point is 00:30:31 but they say that it is not out of the ordinary if you look at it in terms of a 15 or 20 year timeframe. But people are all up in arms about it and acting all like, oh my God, this is crazy. This is something new, we're destroying the planet. You know. No, this has been going on for a long time. Again, that's saying it's good or bad. Just saying it's not out of the, necessarily out of the ordinary like a lot of people are believing that. This is something new and it's just crazy emergency that we need to all direct resources to fight. I watched a documentary like three years ago, I think it was three or four years.
Starting point is 00:31:08 It was a while ago. And I wish I remember the name of it, but it was actually really interesting because I didn't know that it's necessary that we have X amount of fires a year anyways. Did you know that? Yeah. Like that we have. It's a part of the underbrush. That's a part of the cycle of the, of many forests.
Starting point is 00:31:25 Yeah, and this documentary actually kind of, these are, these fires have been set by farmers. It brings nutrients back to the soil. It does, but a lot of these fires have been set by farmers. And a lot of it, it's on, a lot of it is on, it's not burning old rainforests, it's burning grasslands that they're burning to clear for new growth so that they could have their cattle graze on it.
Starting point is 00:31:43 And that's a lot of environmentalists have a problem with that as well. Here's the thing with the environment. It's extremely complex. It's very, very complex. And there's a litmus test that you can, if you want to find out how much science people know, if someone's really concerned about the environment and they want clean energy, ask them what they think about nuclear power.
Starting point is 00:32:02 And if they say, oh my god, no, nuclear power is bad, we can't do it. Then you know that they actually don't know a lot of what they're talking about. Because nuclear power is actually extremely clean and very, it's a very viable energy source. The reason why we don't do nuclear is because it's a political pariah. Like if you're a politician and you say you want to
Starting point is 00:32:20 promote nuclear power, nobody will vote for you because, a, everybody's scared of it. And b, we don't want lots of countries having nuclear power because with that comes the ability to. Nuclear bombs. Yeah, and there are other ways to do it, but we try to stay away from it, type of deal, but it's a very complex situation.
Starting point is 00:32:39 And it's just another issue that gets politicized and simplified. It's not nearly as simple as they want you to believe. And no, it's not this crazy brand new emergency. Again, that's saying it's not bad. Just saying it's not this new thing that everybody needs to come in for something. I don't know, they still believe the earth is round.
Starting point is 00:32:58 So they tend to be questioning that on that kind of stuff. Anyway, speak about more controversial subjects. You guys see KFC? No. Yes, I did. No, what? Of course you can bring this up. So the stupid, impossible meat, like nuggets.
Starting point is 00:33:12 They're making nuggets now. Yeah, KFC now making chicken fried. Can we put, is it, does that make us bad if we buy stock in this company? What, the, the, in-bought meat? Yes, I don't know. Or whatever, impossible meat. I know, I hate to do it too, in the, I just, I don't know, or whatever,
Starting point is 00:33:25 in possible mean. I know, I hate to do it too, but I swear to God, brother. There's such an agenda right now. There is, did you say, did you say, I was going on with Rob Wolf right now? He, he, his post.
Starting point is 00:33:33 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. His site, his site and many other sites. Yeah, Mercola, examine.com, I don't know this. He's examine,
Starting point is 00:33:41 WebMD, a bunch of them, too. That they're, they've lost, uh, tons of visibility on Google. Like 90%. Some of the most, yeah, like the best informational websites out there, like getting deprioritized because they're pro-meat. Because it could be that, or it could be, I wonder what their reasons are for doing that,
Starting point is 00:33:57 is that they're trying to, you know, what is it, fight fake news and stuff like that? Or I don't know. I know, I know, Mercola is extremely controversial. Well, that one, yeah. Rubble isn't very controversial. I don't know why he would be targeted. Examine.com, I saw was on that list also.
Starting point is 00:34:13 They've lost something like 89. Marce. Daily Apple. Yeah, it's just, examine.com is one of the best sites you could go to for supplement information. It's super, it's very objective science-based. It's weird, right? Yeah, but it's just, it's just so strange people would go to KFC for. It's super, it's very objective science-based. It's weird, right?
Starting point is 00:34:25 Yeah, but it's just so strange, people would go to KFC for like a vegan meal. I just can't get past that. It's like you're in the land of murder. Yeah. And you're dipping your little nuggets in there, like while somebody else is munching on a chicken leg right in front of you.
Starting point is 00:34:41 Yeah, doesn't it seem kind of weird? Like would a vegan actually want to go to KFC? No, I mean, it's like, today's vegan is different, bro. Today's vegan is becoming a trend, fast. It is, I'm Tony, I've watched all my little nieces and nephews and cousins that are like two generations behind us that are coming up. And I guess maybe I wasn't aware of it as much before
Starting point is 00:35:01 until that what the health documentary came out. But after that, dude, I've got all these little cousins that don't understand anything, but because of that documentary, and it's so many millions of people saw it, and that became, now it's like a trendy thing to do. It's just this propaganda. It's so trendy.
Starting point is 00:35:18 And what they think, they think they're saving the environment, and they think it's like this. Healthier. Yeah. I think it's healthier, and we're saving the environment, and so it's a this. Healthier? Yeah. I think it's healthier and we're saving the environment and so it's a win both ways. So we should all try and be that way. No, and vegans who are serious about it and have been doing it a long time,
Starting point is 00:35:33 will 100% back up what I'm about to say. If you want to be a vegan, you need to be extremely informed and have a well planned diet. You have to or you will suffer from serious health problems because having nutrient deficiencies a well planned diet. You have to or you will suffer from serious health problems because having nutrient deficiencies is extremely common with an unplanned or not informed vegan diet. The truth is, like everything else in this
Starting point is 00:35:54 world, there's always the swinging of the pendulum. And right now it's swinging hard this direction. And unfortunately, what's going to bring it back is when all the shit happens. When people have been on this for fucking five years and they get all these deficiencies and issues start coming up. We're gonna see it. Well it's great. When you got a bunch of 15 year old kids that don't know dick about nutrition that are just running around just trying to avoid meat because it's popular. That's where they're gonna get fucked. And we're not gonna see that come out in six months, one year, two year time. It's gonna take five years to a decade of these kids. They're hair is gonna start falling out.
Starting point is 00:36:27 They're bones are gonna start getting weak and they're gonna start, you know, their cognitive function will start to decline because that's what happens when you're in a nutrient efficiency. I mean, consider this, the average person, the average American, is so misinformed on any diet. They have bad planning with just a standard regular diet. You want to tell that person now to eliminate me, which is where they get some of their essential nutrients and continue on their uninformed path.
Starting point is 00:36:52 The only information they have is, I'm not gonna eat meat because it's not good for me and it's not good for the environment. Terrible advice, you're gonna cause a lot of problems and you're actually gonna cause the environment more problems as their health problems in issues start to go up that there's some cascading effects that that happened
Starting point is 00:37:09 from that. It brings me to an article. There was a couple in Australia that almost lost their child. Both almost lost their child because their kid almost died, but then the courts almost took their kid because they put their their child on a vegan diet. And this 18 month old had such bad nutrient deficiencies. They didn't even, she wasn't even growing teeth. Oh my God. And yeah, they went to court because the court,
Starting point is 00:37:33 you know, the government's like you're, you know, you're malnourishing your child. They almost took their child away, but the court agreed to give them back their kid so long as they'd feed them differently. Really? But the nutrition was so bad, this kid was undersized, teeth weren't coming in.
Starting point is 00:37:49 I mean, you need to know what you're doing if you're going to eat a vegan diet and I will, most vegans need to supplement. It's just that, it's the bottom line. If you're a vegan, you probably should be looking at taking some supplements long-term, but there's nothing wrong with that. There's nothing wrong at all with that,
Starting point is 00:38:05 but it's just the reality. Otherwise, you're gonna put yourself in a very, very bad position. We're not just talking about eating too many calories and being fat and all that stuff. Neutrary deficiencies will kill you and they'll cause real, real problems. So.
Starting point is 00:38:18 We're not gonna, unfortunately, we're not gonna see this start to come back the other direction. I think we're gonna keep going this crazy for a while until that stuff starts happening. And it'll wake everybody the fuck up and then you're gonna see the thing. Well, because it's making everybody money too.
Starting point is 00:38:32 You know, these meats are popping up everywhere. And it's, I mean, what a great opportunity for these companies. No, let's talk about that for a second. Okay, you cannot patent an animal yet. Okay, I'm sure they'll figure this out at some point, but I can't patent cow, I can't patent chicken or eggs, but you can patent plants,
Starting point is 00:38:52 that's been happening since the mid 90s, right? The GMO corn. GMO, all GMO, all GMO, any? All GMO genetically modified plants are patented, which means if I sell a GMO corn corner soy, nobody else can sell it. Now I can really make a fucking shit ton of money on this product. Nobody else can compete with me unless they go with a different product. That's why I think the investment unlike the Impossible Burger company is so brilliant.
Starting point is 00:39:20 It's all GMO because it wants to hit it out the park and people love the taste of it. Nobody can copy it. Yeah, nobody can fuck with you. It's patented. Our it wants you to hit it out the park and people love the taste. Nobody can copy it. Yeah, nobody can fuck with you. It's panting. Or our alter ego company can purchase it. Yes. But it's like if I come up with a, like if I made like a really good steak, people can compete with me because they can make steak too.
Starting point is 00:39:38 They can, you know, or burger, they can compete with me, but they can't compete with my, you know, impossible meat nuggets or burger. Yeah. That's owned by a company. And let me tell you, if you, everybody knows this in business, if you want to make a shit ton of money, if you can come up with a product that you can patent, now you're protected against competition along some lines. And that there's a lot of people pushing that. Why is it the unbelievable hot dog? So, be that unbelievable hot dog. Yeah, don't Google that. You don't believe it.
Starting point is 00:40:08 Yeah, anyway. So Adam, you were talking about some Uber article that you were... Oh yeah, no, I was actually... I was actually in up about... No, I wasn't that. It wasn't that it was funny. I just thought it was interesting
Starting point is 00:40:16 because right now I feel like Uber and Lyft are like, I mean, do you guys have friends that are doing it? Like, I have a ton of people that do it. It's becoming so popular. and I was just reading this article about, you know, 10 things I wish I knew before starting at Uber or a lift job, and I just thought they were interesting things that people might want to consider before doing it.
Starting point is 00:40:38 One of them is, to make the most money possible, you need to avoid traffic, seems kind of obvious. Good things to come to those who wait. Don't drive around looking for a ride, let the ride come to you. The closest driver to a passenger usually gets the next ride, position yourself accordingly. So strategically setting yourself up.
Starting point is 00:40:59 You need to take breaks often for your health and for your sanity, driving non-stop will kill you. The secret to high rating and more tips is having a clean car, offering a good... This is, I like this one too because I brought this up in the last Uber. I think you guys were with me. Yeah. Oh yeah, having a little charging, yeah, of course. Offering a good phone charger and driving safe.
Starting point is 00:41:16 So driving safe of course because I know Sal and I have almost been hit a few times when we were driving Uber's sketchy, right? Right. We were in a car that was like, the guy was, it was like a bumper car, man. And I don't know, maybe because we go it, we travel lots who are in these a lot. 100% like, if you're in, if I'm in a clean car, and the Uber driver offers those long cords
Starting point is 00:41:35 with the different charger options. So you know, no matter what phone you have, I think that's like such a clutch move. Didn't lift, just, was it lift? That just got a bunch of like sexual harassment suits or something. Yeah, I did. I had that in my notes actually to talk last week. I totally forgot about that. Yeah. So what was the deal with that? Was it was it the company? So what what ex employees? No, no, no, no, no. What was happening was there was there was six, I believe,
Starting point is 00:42:01 sexual harassment charges and they were different thing cases. Like some of the Uber drivers, you know, that took somebody home. You mean, Lyft drivers? Yes, excuse me, Lyft drivers, you know, followed the girl in and then tried to either rape or watch. Yeah, yeah. Wow. So you had situations like that. That was like one situation.
Starting point is 00:42:18 Another situation, somebody was just kind of verbally harassed. Another situation, they were touched. They were situations. They were trying to take them somewhere else. So they've had these different cases that have happened, but you have these people that are using Lyft. I don't think Uber went through this before, too, there it is right there. So Uber had already had this.
Starting point is 00:42:40 So Uber had issues just like this, too, because it's not hard to become an Uber or a lift driver. Almost anybody can do it. That includes pedophiles too and fucking weirdos. No, I don't know. I think they have to go through a background checks. Okay, well, okay, if you're not, and if you've not been offended of being a pedophile or you don't say, but you can still be a creep.
Starting point is 00:43:00 Well, you say you did not have a record. Well, here's why I'm saying that. Taxi cabs, I mean, I was been suspect of those guys. Yes. This is what I was going to say. Yes. I wonder how many sexual assault lawsuits happen just to taxis. Yeah. I don't. I don't.
Starting point is 00:43:13 So when I was going to bring it up, so it was on my notes to bring it up to the other day, like, I don't think of it as like, this is, I don't think like lifters more because, yes, I don't think there's more with lift and Uber than there was with taxis. I don't think there areters more because yes, I don't think there's more with lift and uber than there was with taxis. I don't think the people are any more creepy. I actually think this is just an interesting way
Starting point is 00:43:30 that people are trying to take them down or go after them. It's like trying to hold lift responsible for somebody. Inhuman behavior, inevitably there's gonna be hassle about that. But I mean, how is that any different? Like so if one of our employees that we hired
Starting point is 00:43:43 went out and sexually harassed somebody, we would be held liable to that. So that's what's happening, is there? Are they being held liable? Right, so they're there. Yeah, absolutely. So I would venture to say, get a track down harder than that.
Starting point is 00:43:53 I would venture to say Uber and Lyft would be safer than taxis, and here's why. When you take a taxi, you don't have the person's name and picture and driver's license on your app. When you take an Uber, I have all that information. So I have the guy's face, I have his, everything. So I bet you, I would venture to say you're safer in an Uber or a lift than you would be.
Starting point is 00:44:15 I would agree too, because in, I guess. You get an attack so you don't know the dude. Well, and a guy makes, let's say, a guy makes crude comments to some girl that's in there. And when she leaves, she has the option to one star leave notes. You can write a comment right away. Right. So try doing that with a taxi. The guy leaves, you're like, crap, what car was it?
Starting point is 00:44:33 I don't know, who do I call? Right. Right. So I do think that, believe it or not, I actually think that's probably better controlled through Uber and Lyft and it ever has been before. But again, it's because it's a, these matters. The reason why I'm saying that is we always have to look at context, right? So if you look at a company like Lyft,
Starting point is 00:44:49 and let's say they had, I don't know how many, let's say they had 15 sexual assault lawsuits, look at the context, how many total rides did they service within that period of time? Right, right. And is that percentage normal within how many, you know, with other companies or is it lower or higher?
Starting point is 00:45:07 Because it can sound terrible. And to your point, but it might be better. No, exactly. To your point, it's probably significantly better. And we don't know, you know, there could have been 30 in the same time frame and taxis. Yeah, and taxis. But now because it's actually very easy to track who the driver was, complain and do all those things.
Starting point is 00:45:25 Maybe because of that, we're seeing it more often. So then of course, we're free. Because I would be, I would be, here's what I would look at. I know that the taxi companies really don't like the de-centralizing and disrupting effect of Uber and Lyft. I wouldn't be surprised if they love putting out information like this to make it sound like of course. Oh, they're not as safe. Almost like hotels, you know, like with Airbnb,
Starting point is 00:45:48 you know, maybe one Airbnb guy has a hidden camera and people catch it. And so then the hotel companies will put out these articles and say, oh, look, people are spying on whatever when in reality, it's, again, could be far safer to Airbnb than even to hotel. He's a hotel. Right. So who knows. edge. Try Organify totally risk free for 60 days by going to Organify.com. That's
Starting point is 00:46:26 lrgnifi.com and use a coupon code MindPump for 20% off at checkout. First question is from Elena Bedina. What are your thoughts on the whole 30? Have you ever put a client on it? I actually, when I think of back to all the different diets that are out there, diet books and protocols, I would have to say that as a trainer, you typically are customizing everybody's nutrition plan. But if there was ever something that I just pointed someone in the direction, like maybe they weren't, they didn't hire me, they had questions, I have actually pointed more people towards whole 30
Starting point is 00:47:06 than almost any other diet out there. I just think that the principles behind it are really, really solid and probably aligns the most with the philosophy that I would teach my clients. We've talked on the show many times about, I remember having clients and they'd come back and they would be struggling with the diet and I'd be asking them, well, I'm eating good and then I find out they're eating out here or they're eating these things that I think are just really
Starting point is 00:47:34 tough to track and they're processed foods and I'm like, other probably also under reporting and I beg, listen, instead of us trying to calculate and count when you're going out to eat whole foods, your own whole. It targets the major offender, right? It does, which is great. And then it focuses you on having to go get food, which is better than eliminate this, eliminate that.
Starting point is 00:47:56 I need to be able to get more of these whole foods. How do I do this? I have to actually cook it. And it's like, it brings it back to that simple thing where if you're in charge of chopping everything yourself and putting it together, it's a much more intimate and you know, much more sustainable. I think you nailed it right on the head right there
Starting point is 00:48:17 with the part that we learned later on, I think as trainers, was when you tell clients they have to eat this really restrictive diet, they have a hard time with it, because it just feeds into that whole, I can, I can't have things, or like a punishment thing, or it's only because I'm on this diet right now, and then I'm gonna be off the diet eventually,
Starting point is 00:48:37 versus, you know, I figured this out later on, I'm like, oh, right away, when I would start to adjust someone's diet, I would actually never take away. I would start to infuse things into the diet. So instead of me saying, oh, no more of that McDonald's or no more of that, I'd say what I want you to do is start eating a two cups of broccoli a day. What I found out and I figured out was if they ate a certain way, and that was their very consistent, even if that's bad choices,
Starting point is 00:49:05 like eating fast food and stuff, but they never sat down and had two cups of broccoli in their day. When I asked them to eat two cups of broccoli, it naturally would eliminate something that was bad in the diet, or that was inferior to that as far as nutrient-wise, right? So instead of actually telling clients,
Starting point is 00:49:21 like, oh, you can't have these things, like saying, hey, listen, hold these whole foods, go to town, eat these foods, enjoy them, eat till you're full. And they don't feel like you're restricting them. You're just kind of putting parameters of like, hey, let's stay away from all the process box things and eat around these whole foods. And I've had a lot of success.
Starting point is 00:49:41 I've had a lot of clients that have had a lot of success with it. I think they notice a big difference. I think they a lot of success. I've had a lot of clients that have had a lot of success with it. I think they notice a big difference. I think they notice the satiety. I think it speaks to the point that Sal always brings up that process foods are hijacking your body's natural systems to tell you that you're full. So when you eat whole foods, it's a lot harder to do that, even if you do season up and stuff like that,
Starting point is 00:50:03 which does that a little bit, but not to the same extent. Well, what I like about Whole 30 is, and I do like it, I would agree with you guys, I think it's, it's, if you had to pick a diet, that would be the one that I would say pick. And here's what I like about them, is that they have a, an elimination diet, kind of built into it. And so what I mean by that is, by that is they tell you to remove the common offenders that people tend to have issues with, things like certain grains, like gluten, for example. Remove those out of your diet for the first 30 days. After 30 days is up, reintroduce some of these common offenders and then see how your body
Starting point is 00:50:42 reacts and responds. I like this because it brings a new level of awareness to a person. A lot of people don't realize that they're eating foods that they have digestive issues from, or there's certain foods that cause them to feel a particular way. And so when they eliminate them for 30 days
Starting point is 00:50:57 and then reintroduce them 30 days later, they start to pay attention to how they feel. And they start to notice like, oh, wait a minute. When I eat lots of bread, I just don't feel good. My body doesn't feel good, or my appetite gets out of whack, or my moods kind of whatever. Maybe that's what happens when I eat bread. Let me take it back out and see what happens.
Starting point is 00:51:13 Whole 30 does that, and that's the part of Whole 30, like the most. It has that elimination component kind of built in. Most diets cut things out, leave them out. Whole 30 doesn't necessarily do that. It cuts things out and then it says, reintroduce them slowly and see how you feel. So I like it. I like it for that.
Starting point is 00:51:32 I think people have had a lot of success as a result. It's not foolproof, of course. But it's good to know how your body feels because the way you digest things is very individual. The way you react to foods can be very individual. There's a psychological component. That's very individual. Some foods may be psychologically triggering for you.
Starting point is 00:51:51 There's also the metabolism and how your body works with these foods, your microbiome. It's all like a fingerprint. So Adam and I may go and eat a meal, and that meal may make him feel different than it makes me feel. And I'm talking about everything from physiological differences. He may, I may get bloated from a meal that he feel fine from
Starting point is 00:52:11 or I may get tired or I may feel bad or I may just have an emotional connection to that food and it triggers me to eat a lot of other foods. That's also something that we have. We have emotional triggers. So it's good, I like that component. You take things out, reintroduce them, see how you feel, it gives them a little bit more
Starting point is 00:52:27 of a sense of awareness than most diets tend to do. Yeah, I like that it has, like it's a strategy at the end of the day. Like I look at diets as a way to kind of provide a structure if you're unstructured in the way that you're eating and so it helps you to kind of, you know, really take that mindful time and experience like, and pay attention to the signs and symptoms
Starting point is 00:52:48 of what your body's telling you through that process. Yeah, here's the foods that they cut out in the first 30 days I brought it up. I just wanted to be 100%. So it's dairy, grains, alcohol, legumes, added sugars, caroguinin, MSG, and sulfites, and then junk food. Now those are the most common offenders sugars, caroginin, MSG, and sulfites, and then junk food.
Starting point is 00:53:05 Now those are the most common offenders in terms of making people feel bad or giving them a food intolerance. Like dairy is a big one for me. Other people, it could be legumes. You basically, if you're looking at people with their food intolerances, those foods right there probably cover, including the preservatives like MSG and stuff. Those probably cover, I don't know, I would estimate 75 to 85% of the most common issues
Starting point is 00:53:34 that people have with food. So when you cut those out, and then you reintroduce them one at a time after 30 days, like, okay, I'm done with my 30 days, let me reintroduce dairy real slow, because that's what the whole 30 tells you to do. And then you start to notice like, oh, that's where I'm getting the blow.
Starting point is 00:53:49 That's where my blow was coming from. It's from Jerry. Now you know what's causing these issues, and you can eliminate them or keep them in if you want. So that component is really what makes me enjoy the most. It's the biggest commercial, kind of a elimination diet protocol that I've seen. Otherwise I haven't seen too many that have that kind of commercial viability.
Starting point is 00:54:11 Next question is from 00 silk drop. Do vegetables and fruits carry equal weight when it comes to nutritional necessity? It seems like they are always lumped together. You mean like in comparison to each other or in general like to other foods? To each other. So because you know, we always say each are fruit and vegetables. Like they're put in the same category.
Starting point is 00:54:32 Okay, so this is a great question. Now I would say this in the context of today. Okay, so modern times, vegetables are more important than fruits. You're going to get more nutrients. Vegetables tend to kick the crap out of fruits in terms of nutrients, and how many nutrients they deliver to your body.
Starting point is 00:54:55 They tend to be better in terms of fiber. And they are typically lower in calorie and lower in sugar. Not always right. Corn is a vegetable, and I guess a potato could be considered one maybe. lower in calorie and lower in sugar. Not always right. Not all of them. Corn is a vegetable and I guess a potato could be considered one maybe. But they're lower calorie, higher nutrient. I would say if you had to pick one or the over the other, go for vegetables. Now, if we look at the context of evolution and the context of when we were hunter-gatherers, fruit was more valuable because fruit typically had more calories and more sugar.
Starting point is 00:55:28 I know now that sounds like a bad thing, but let me tell you something. It was a good thing a long time ago. Yeah. Like if you were looking for food and you, if you stumble upon a field of, you know, broccoli or a field of apples, the apples are more likely to make you survive. They've got more calories, they've got more... More usable energy. More usable energy.
Starting point is 00:55:51 But these days it's vegetables. I don't even push fruit on my kids that much. I mean, they'll have some fruit here and there, and that's their snack every once in a while. But it's the vegetables I make a big deal of. You don't have to worry about scurvy as much now, which is good. I would say though, a cup of berries from a fiber point, if we were going to compare, like,
Starting point is 00:56:11 if you have somebody who doesn't have, trying to think of like all the times where maybe I've actually recommended fruit. Yeah, that's a good exception, right? Yeah, like, so you're like, one thing that I do common, it's common, like, if I have somebody, I always have clients monitor their stool and pay attention to that and if I have somebody who has Constipation and I noticed that they're really low on fiber. They're not getting enough and maybe they're you know They have you know some asparagus spears at dinner and they had like a you know iceberg lettuce lunch And so they in their head they're eating enough greens and so they think they're getting a ton of, and they're not, they're not a ton of fiber, okay. So, you know, handful of
Starting point is 00:56:48 asparagus and salad for lunch doesn't equate to a ton of fiber that somebody would need. And if you're somebody who's listening and that is, and could be a normal day for you, easily, you could be eating under your daily requirement for fibers. So having someone eat a cup of blueberries, blackberries, strawberries, raspberries, all the berries is a good punch of fiber. No, this is a good point because on a volume to volume comparison fruit actually does pretty damn good when it comes to fiber.
Starting point is 00:57:20 The difference is this, the difference is I can eat a lot more leafy green vegetables and not consume calories. So that's why I'm saying the context of modern life like vegetables seem to be more power packed. Yeah, they seem to be better, you know, but you're right, on a volume per volume, berries have a lot of fiber. Right, so that's where I wanted to be careful with us recommending that direction because there's been many times where I've had clients that are not eating in a fiber and just simply trying to get them to eat
Starting point is 00:57:49 a little bit more vegetables. It's hard because the amount of vegetables that you need to eat, if you didn't do no fruit at all and get all your fiber from vegetables, you gotta eat quite a bit. You do, yeah. That's a lot of the problem. Vegetables are meant to be that way, by the way.
Starting point is 00:58:02 They're meant to be eaten a lot. Eat the fuck out of them. That's there's so low in calories If when humans ate vegetables in the past we had a lot of them because they didn't give us a lot of calories So we said we sat down and we ate a shit ton of them You know I'm saying so that's the way you're supposed to eat vegetables And that's supposed to have just a little bit of vegetables You're supposed to have a lot of them and I recommend to people what especially people with digestive issues cook them Cook your vegetables cook them well,
Starting point is 00:58:26 it makes them easily easy to digest. Don't eat them wrong, my God, you eat a lot of raw vegetables and you're in a whole world of hurt. You guys ever do that? Uh, they'll destroy me. You ever eat like a bowl of raw broccoli? No. Oh, you're fucking hurt.
Starting point is 00:58:37 I never even turned into a machine yet. I could see you doing that, that's the way it would be. I did do that once and I was... I mean, it wasn't until we, I never even ate vegetables like that until we met until we met. And I remember it really was when we saw Dr. Terry Walls, right? When we interviewed Dr. Terry Walls,
Starting point is 00:58:57 she kind of really opened my eyes on like, even on my highest vegetable day, I was grossly under eating still on what we can't do. Yeah, that resonated with me a lot too. Yeah. I'm just not doing enough. And I know Sal was already, by that time, was already doing his, you know, bowl, like his giant bowl of, yeah, bowl of rapini that was think the entire joint up.
Starting point is 00:59:18 Yeah. And I just, I had never ate vegetables like that. And so it wasn't until you guys in Doug also with like his Brussels sprout recipe, like now I do this, like now I will sit down and have a giant bowl of Brussels sprouts or I'll have a giant bowl of rapini or broccoli or spinach, like a huge thing is a spinach all the time.
Starting point is 00:59:36 So I never did that before. And so I imagine there's a lot of people listening that are probably like me where they considered themselves, oh I eat vegetables, like I did not eat vegetables, but I was not getting nowhere near enough of what my body probably needed. And not, and I know there's somebody rolling their eyes right now because it's not needed to survive,
Starting point is 00:59:56 but to be- Optimal health. Yes, for optimal health. Yeah, one of the differences that you notice when you eat a lot of vegetables. Oh, yeah, no, my digestion is awesome. Digest in your stool, your energy levels. I mean, I just, I felt a 10 times better.
Starting point is 01:00:10 Scan, like I noticed a lot of little things like that that were different when I... Basically everything vegans promote. Yeah, that's when it actually... No, no, 100%. So, to me, those are the things you have to kind of consider. Are you getting that much, that many vegetables in a day? And if you're not, then I do see a lot of value of making sure fruit is integrated in there also.
Starting point is 01:00:32 So it's like, you either need to have a day that is just plentiful of lots of vegetables and sitting down and actually having a big bowl of vegetables at one point in your day. And if you didn't, that would be a great day, probably to have a small cup of berries, because one cup of berries packs a nice punch when it comes to life.
Starting point is 01:00:49 That's such a good point. I guess it would be this. If you're just gonna have a little bit fruit might be better. If you're gonna have a nice, big plate, vegetables, probably better from a nutrient standpoint. Energy-wise fruit kicks ass. They're packed full of energy. If we cut out the starchy vegetables that,
Starting point is 01:01:05 you know, like corn and potato, I guess you can put in there. But otherwise, I mean, they're both pretty damn good. They're great for you. You can overdo, you can't overdo fruit. I'll say that. Fruit is so damn palatable. I've had clients in the past just because I said, yeah, fruit, don't worry about it. And they just went nuts on it. And just a incredible amounts of fruit and then we had to reduce their fruit and take so they could drop their calories. So you can't overdo the fruit as well but they're both good.
Starting point is 01:01:33 It depends on the context, I guess would be the answer. Next question is from Chris DJ. If you had one hour with a high school gym class in a weight room, what would you do with them? This is a challenging one because I saw this up there and I was already kind of thinking about it. What would I do? I know what I would do, but the problem with what I would do
Starting point is 01:01:52 is I don't know how well this would do in a high school class. So disconnected from that age group and I don't know the intention spent. Like in my, this is what I, if I was like a high school gym teacher, like I would love to be like, you know, all month long, we're talking the squat. I know, all the second one exercise. Yes, yes, maybe two max.
Starting point is 01:02:14 Right, that's it, like all month, it would be like this month is the squat. And so we would learn the squat, we would practice the skill. I would show the difference between students and what's going on with each one. Like, oh, he's, he's limited here because of his. Like, oh, he's limited here because of his ankle mobility. Oh, she's limited here because of her hip mobility and like pointing out all these things and teaching them.
Starting point is 01:02:32 Like you could teach the squat, obviously you teach the squat for a whole year. And but I mean, I would focus on a movement, especially the big compound lifts, right? So for the first five or six months, I'm going through squat month, next month out, that deadlift month, and overhead press month. Right. And then trying to break down all the things that are important to, you know, to getting better at it. Now, geez, I don't know how many kids would love like, hey, guess what we're doing today again? Squatting with Mr. Schaefer, you know,
Starting point is 01:02:59 I'm still focused. Yeah. Like, fuck is like that exciting. Yeah. But I mean, CrossFit, what's going on here? Right, in a perfect world though, I mean, at that age, those kids are really starting to, starting to figure out that working out is important. Most of them don't have very good mechanics. So I think what they would benefit the most from
Starting point is 01:03:17 would be taking a single exercise. You'd have to change, you'd have to completely change their focus, right? Because in high school, when you're lifting weights, especially when it's a bunch of guys lifting weights, it quickly becomes, who's stronger? Yeah, who's the strongest? Let's see you can lift the most weight, right?
Starting point is 01:03:33 That's what you value the most. So you have to really sell hard and make the case that it's about technique, practice, and form, and practice these exercises. And we're gonna use weight that's light, and we're gonna do today and we're going to use weight that you know that's light and we're going to do today We're going to do you know three exercises and we're going to Practice these until we get really really good. You have to sell the shit out of that because it naturally you just want to see who's the strongest It's interesting that somebody brought this good. I don't know who brought this question today, but
Starting point is 01:03:58 You know, I someone good old client of mine who I used to train for many years is a high school teacher at one of the local high schools. And she's actually, they put together a whole presentation that I guess they used our, a bunch of our YouTube videos to all the gym classes. So I think a couple hundred students was watching Mind Pump TV on, I don't even remember which ones they were using, but I saw that. She'd shared it with me. And I said, you know, let me know, well, wouldn't it be a good time? I said, you know, maybe we can get down there and talk.
Starting point is 01:04:27 And I'd really like to start to make our way into high school. So this question makes me try and think of like, how we would go in there. And I think that's what we would do, Sal, is I think we would go in and really make the case. That's it, Salda. Salda, sell the idea of why good mechanics
Starting point is 01:04:42 and not just being, you know, being able to lift a lot of weight is more important. And then, and try and challenge, you know, being able to lift a lot of weight is more important. And then, and try and challenge the kids to not only get stronger, but also work on improving the movement itself. I think kids would be receptive to it. I mean, I was in a, they had a weight training specific class. That wasn't like an elective that I took in high school. And you know, on top of already doing team workouts and things
Starting point is 01:05:07 where they kind of got a little bit into the mechanics of it but it was very like all over the place. I would have loved to have very specific cues and techniques revolving around just a squat or just an overhead press so I could master those things and you could really dive into posture, you could dive into like why, you know, there's discrepancies and how to address those things as you go through the process. Yeah, those are the two exercises that I'd really love to focus on, the squat and the overhead
Starting point is 01:05:37 press. I think those are your kids, yeah. Absolutely. Just a bit mechanics in the form and then slowly getting them better. Because at that age, just practicing, actually, it's slowly getting them better. Because at that age, just practicing, actually it's at any age, but especially at that age, just practicing form and technique, and getting better, you're gonna get stronger.
Starting point is 01:05:52 You're gonna get a lot stronger. A lot of the reason why a 24 year old is so much stronger than a 17 year old, isn't because a 24 year old is bigger. A lot of it's just they have more control over their body. More time under the belt. And that's another one. That's maybe one of the ways you could sell it to the kids
Starting point is 01:06:09 is say, look, you're 15, 16 years old. Trust me, you have way more strength than you know you do. You just don't have no to access it because you don't have the control over it. Just like a dog when it's a puppy, and you're in a half old, this is big as it's gonna be, but it's all clumsy and it moves, that's you guys. You guys are a bunch of clumsy puppies.
Starting point is 01:06:28 And I'm gonna teach you guys how to move better and really learn how to harness your strength so you can have that old man's strength like your dad. That's why your dad beat you up and when he wrestles with you all the time. You have to kind of sell that to the kid so they kind of get it because otherwise they don't value, I didn't value that at all.
Starting point is 01:06:43 When I was in high school, lift and weights, I don't give a shit, man. As long as I, there's a couple parameters. Did it touch your chest? Did you get the bar up? Cool. You did the lift. You're the strongest. If I can bench more than you, I'm winning.
Starting point is 01:06:53 That's it. Next question is from the Mind Muscle Project. Do you use microwaves? After diving into Paul Chex' work, we can't help but hesitate every time with use wine. So Paul, you know, here's a thing, there's definitely to be paranoid about everything. There's definitely things I disagree with, with Paul. And this may be one of them.
Starting point is 01:07:14 Now Paul, I think, is one of the, he's the Godfather of the wellness space. It doesn't mean I agree with him every time, but the guy usually is spot on. Here's one where I disagree. Micro waves, they heat up food in similar ways to heating up food with fire. Some of the arguments or how it causes the atoms
Starting point is 01:07:34 and food to jiggle and shake, and that's what causes the heat. Well, that still happens when you heat things up. Anytime heat things up, that happens. Molecules move around. Yeah, and there's evidence that I even chose that microwaving produces less of carcinogens and harmful things than fire does.
Starting point is 01:07:48 Now, I guess I definitely won't say microwavings better than heating up over fire. And the main reason why is because that's how we, we haven't been microwaving things nearly as long. So, I'm pretty sure we evolved to do better with heating things up under fire. But no, I don't think there's any issue. I think the biggest argument with microwaving is the leaching of plastic into the food, right? That's true. That's definitely true.
Starting point is 01:08:09 If you microwave something, you need to use... You don't want to do that. You don't want to use something that's going to leak chemicals into your food, just like you wouldn't use a plastic container over a fire. Either, you know. No, I mean, think about it. There's nothing in there.
Starting point is 01:08:21 Nobody's doing that. Well, I mean, it's good to put it in the context because somehow people think, oh, it's a microwave, it's something different and worse. I wouldn't think about it. There's nothing in it. Nobody's doing that. Well, I mean, it's good to put it in a context because somehow people think, oh, it's a microwave, it's something different and worse. Like, I wouldn't use a plan. I wouldn't put my food in a plastic bag and put it over a fire either because it would melt the plastic. No, that's a really good one.
Starting point is 01:08:33 That is a great point. It's just, it's not that much perspective. It's much more invisible because of the microwave, the way microwaves work, it's not necessarily melting the container, although it can. It's really magic to me. I don't have no idea how that fucking works. Yeah, well, the way that there's waves that move through the food that causes the molecules of food,
Starting point is 01:08:50 the water molecules within the food, to shake and jiggle, and that causes heat. And that's what warms up your food. And that's why it warms up kind of from the inside out. You ever notice how things kind of warm up, strange sometimes in a microwave. I like the middle is hot, but the outside is cold spot. Yeah, and you gotta kinda mix it up or whatever.
Starting point is 01:09:08 But no, man, they've been around for a while and there is, to my knowledge, zero evidence that microwaving food is bad besides what you warm it up in. But I'm open to look at more evidence. I've read Paul checks blogs on microwaves and some of the stuff that he quotes, you know, it's like there was a science experiment where a girl microwave water
Starting point is 01:09:28 let it cool down, then she watered the plants and the plant didn't grow as much. And I'm like, I don't know if that's really a scientific study necessarily. But you know, I'm open to looking at some of the stuff, but I'm not opposed to microwaves. It's like when you're negative and you put that negative energy on the water and then it changes. Like, have you ever seen that? I have. See, you remember, he has the, he has the fucking, his moon, his, the moon changes his water
Starting point is 01:09:50 and shit. Oh, yeah. He has the crystals in a circle. That's, that's next. The charges his water. He's, he's just next to him. Hey, look, here's a deal. Like, to me, it's, uh, even if, if, if his argument holds water, even if it does.
Starting point is 01:10:10 Water under the bridge. There's so many other big rocks that I'm worried about first. You know what I'm saying? That's the one thing I always try and remind everybody who hears these type of things that come out, the fucking plastics are going to kill us all. Oh, artificial sweeteners. It's like, okay, artificial sweeteners aren't going to kill you if you're over consuming 2000 calories every single day
Starting point is 01:10:34 and sitting on your couch. Like, will you know what I'm going to kill you? Overconsuming 2000 calories and sitting on your couch and not exercising is going to kill you before the artificial sweeteners. Before the fricking non-stick pan. Yeah, or whatever. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:10:46 There's a lot of other things that you should be doing and putting your energy and your thoughts into then a lot of this stuff. I, okay, so let me give you guys an example. I learned this as a personal trainer and it took me a year or two to really figure this out. When I first became a trainer and I would get a new client, the client would come to me and would tell me their goal.
Starting point is 01:11:09 And I would, because I had all the answers, I was like, oh great, we're totally gonna get you at least 30 pounds, here's what we're gonna do. You're gonna work out three days a week with me, you're gonna do cardio every single morning on these days. Here's your macro pro, here's what you're gonna do for your macros, here's your calories, I'm gonna write a meal plan for you.
Starting point is 01:11:23 And I would give them so much shit that they would do nothing. Right. It's called information overload. Okay, you become paralyzed with too much information. Think about starting a business for people who are listening who are entrepreneurs. Those people who now have a successful business,
Starting point is 01:11:39 imagine if all the information you know now, now that your business is successful, was thrown at you when you first wanted to start the business. You would have never started. We wouldn't have started this podcast, had we known the real risks and challenges that would have come with it. We were kind of excited and pumped and naive.
Starting point is 01:11:55 We didn't know, we're like, let's do this. It'd be great. Now that we know what we know, looking back, we're like, wow, that was really insane how we did what we did. This is true for anything. And what's happening with a lot of this, this is the wellness, this is what the wellness space does
Starting point is 01:12:09 terrible. The wellness space, this is the problem with the wellness space is they over saturate with so much fucking information on everything that people do nothing. So now rather than people eating a little bit less than moving on, and honestly the only that people that subscribe to it are the ones that don't even need it
Starting point is 01:12:27 that much, right? It's the people that are already super healthy. They're looking for the next crazy level. Those are the people that adopt it and go like, oh, this is great. I'm so glad now. I don't ever use my microwave anymore. I'm using all this aluminum-free deodorant and I'm doing all these fucking things. It's like, yeah, but I'm eating too way too many calories.
Starting point is 01:12:44 And I'm not active. You know what I'm saying? You got to look at all the things that are most important. Tackle those first and until you tackle those, stop worrying about everything else because everything else isn't gonna do shit for you. If you don't, you know, necessarily if you don't tackle the big things first.
Starting point is 01:12:59 And so again, the wellness industry does this really bad. So now you got a bunch of people who are like, oh, I'm not supposed to microwave my McDonald's Big Mac. Now that, you know, that being said, the same thing that I, that I approached in the same way I'm trying like with like artificial sweeteners and stuff like that in my life is, you know, I just yesterday I was home and we had leftovers and maybe 10, 15 years ago, I would be naive enough to just throw my, my plastic container in there and microwave it up for a minute 30 and then eat it straight out there. Where now it's like, oh, I'm at home right now. I have my iron skillet that's already on the stove. I just dump my food in the skillet, and light the skillet up, and then cook it on my heated up on my iron skillet, and throw it back on a plate, and I eat it that way. in a eat-away. So I'll try and make what I think is probably a better choice, but I sure is shit, not freaking out or not gonna keep my food
Starting point is 01:13:50 up one day because of the micro. Here's what the, if you're in the fitness and wellness space, if you're in the health space and you really wanna help people, you need to consider the following. You need to consider how you're communicating your information and how well it's being understood on the other end. That's a big fucking part of it because, I, you know, look, we live in the information age today.
Starting point is 01:14:12 Right now, everybody has access to all the information that's ever been recorded. This is no longer, I don't know, or I don't have the information problem. It used to be 100 years ago, people didn't know. They did shit and they didn't know it was bad. Well, today, there's tons of information. And yet, people are still getting fat.
Starting point is 01:14:29 They're getting fatter and health is still terrible. So it's not an information problem. We don't need to inundate people. It's a filtering problem. It's a prioritizing problem. We're not fucking selling it well, guys. You know, hey, we're not doing a good job. We're, I used to tell my sales guys this,
Starting point is 01:14:43 when they would give people a tour of the gym, they'd talk for two and a half hours. The person will walk out and wouldn't join and I told them, it's that you talked them out of it. You used too much information, fucking relax, just communicate the important stuff, do a good job with that. You know what's going to end up happening? Here's what will happen. Let's say we do a good job and we sell to people in a very intelligent way, that they need to start eating a little bit less, that they need to eat certain foods that make them want to eat less, so avoid the heavily processed food, that they should probably start eating more, that, oh, you only have two days a week to work out.
Starting point is 01:15:12 Why don't you focus on weight training, because that speeds up your metabolism, you get more bang for your buck, and then they do that. We do a good enough job that we sell those four or five things, they do a really, really good job, they do it, and they do it consistently. Well, guess what's going to happen next? Next they're going to start looking at what chemical should I take out of my, my, my progress. Then they start to progress, but worrying about microwaving your food.
Starting point is 01:15:31 I don't, I don't think that's a, that's a, you, now I, my mind can be changed. My mind can totally be changed, but up until now, the information I've seen, it's not, it's like, it doesn't make the top 50 for me in terms of things that I'll ever communicate to a client. I leave it out until I'm talking to the perfect client that's doing absolutely everything. They're like, hey, Sal, what's the next thing I should add? I'll put it in there with my EMF underwear.
Starting point is 01:15:52 Exactly. And with that, go to mindpumpfree.com and download our guides. They're all absolutely free. You can also find us all on Instagram. You can find Justin at Mind Pump, Justin, Adam at Mind Pump, Adam, and you can find me at Mind Pump Sal. Thank you for listening to Mind Pump.
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