Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1113: How to Work Out When You are Run Down, the Best Time to Eat Carbs, Eating Disorders & Bodybuilding & MORE

Episode Date: September 6, 2019

In this episode of Quah, sponsored by MAPS Fitness Products (www.mapsfitnessproducts.com), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about how to train after a poor night of sleep, the benefits of simple and complex carbohydrates, whether someone who has suffered from an eating disorder should compete in bodybuilding, and fitness influencers who should go away.   Who is the most impulsive buyer at Mind Pump? (4:58) That one time the guys at Mind Pump got hustled. (10:00) Skinny Dipped almonds are popular amongst the college kids & MORE. (16:21) Justin shares his experience playing pickup basketball. (19:03) The popularity of the ‘being authentic’ movement: Feeding an agenda vs. producing what the consumer wants. (23:29) Another study showing how BCAA’s are a waste of money. (33:29) Making the case for the value of artificial sweeteners. (38:05) How played out is Burning Man? (43:50) Mind Pump bragging on themselves. (46:05) #Quah question #1 – On days when you know you can’t perform at your fullest, because you aren’t fully recovered from things like a poor night of sleep. Should you just do mobility work or a lighter workout also ok? (48:18) #Quah question #2 – I get a lot of clients believing the stay away from white simple carbs myth. Could you please explain the benefits simple white and complex carbohydrates and when it is beneficial to consume them? (53:24) #Quah question #3 – Do you think someone who had suffered from an eating disorder should compete in bodybuilding? (58:35) #Quah question #4 – If you guys can pick one fitness influencer or personality that you would have shut up and go away forever, who would it be and why? (1:04:30) Related Links/Products Mentioned September Promotion: MAPS Starter ½ off!! **Code “STARTER50” at checkout** Hustlers (2019) - Rotten Tomatoes Visit Skinny Dipped for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code “mindpump” at checkout** These Are the 12 Snacks You Need to Keep in Your Dorm Room The Shop | Official Website of the HBO Series | HBO There's Nothing Candid About LeBron's The Shop Branched-chain amino acids do not improve muscle recovery from resistance exercise in untrained young adults Layne Norton post on Artificial Sweeteners Association between intake of non-sugar sweeteners and health outcomes: systematic review and meta-analyses of randomised and non-randomised controlled trials and observational studies DJ Flume performs sex act live on stage at Burning Man 9 Best Fitness Podcasts for Workout Motivation 15 Fitness Podcasts to Get You Pumped for the Gym Check out Mind Pump Live to get tickets for their next live event! Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Layne Norton, PhD (@biolayne) - Instagram Joe DeFranco (@defrancosgym) • Instagram Ben Greenfield Fitness (@bengreenfieldfitness) • Instagram Joey Swoll (@joeyswoll) • Instagram Dan Bilzerian (@danbilzerian) • Instagram

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Saldas Defano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this episode of Mind Pump, so this episode has a lot of fitness talk, talk about burning body fat, building muscle, but we also talk about burning man, current events, and our personal lives. So the first 45 minutes is the intro portion of the episode. We start out by talking about our most impulsive purchases, and the times we've been hustled.

If you guess that Adam is the most impulsive purchaser of all of us, you'd be correct. You are correct, either. Then I talk about how skinny depth, this one of our sponsors, they're the makers of the almonds that are lightly coated in chocolate, great macro profile, extremely delicious. They sold 360,000 pounds of almonds last year. And as of right now, they're one of the number one recommended snacks

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Then Justin talked about his basketball adventure last night. Yeah. He's getting athletic again. I'm playing basketball. Watch out everybody. Then he had to take a hot bath though, because he couldn't sleep. There's the old part.

Adam brought up a TV show. I think he said the name wrong. I did. It's called The Shop Uninterrupted. I don't know what you said at once. I'm disputed. I'm disputed. It's fucking close.

With LeBron James, sounds like it's, wants to be a good show, but they're getting too political. So it's not that great. Then I talked about the latest groundbreaking study on branched chaining me to acids. This one will not shock you. Well, you're mine. Then I also brought up the meta analysis

on artificial sweeteners, so they did a big analysis of lots of past studies on artificial sweeteners, and they came up with some interesting conclusions. I talked about Burning Man and the DJ Flume and what he ate on stage. Delicious. Stay tuned for that surprise. Didn't taste good there.

It was nuts. Can you dip the almonds? No, thanks Adam. We also talked about how we got listed as one of the top fitness podcasts in the world. We told you again on men's health and ask.men.com. In case you forgot. Yeah, so case you forgot we we pumped ourselves up a little bit again. Oh, also I want to mention everybody our live event coming up in San Jose on September 27th. This one is going to be with Mike Matthews. You get to meet all of us, ask us questions. Have a great time. And we also have a VIP ticket where you have dinner with all of us beforehand. That's going to be a good time. All that is available at mindpumpelive.com.

Make sure you go check it out. Don't miss out. Then we got to the questions part of this episode. The first question, this person wants to know what you should do when you have a poor night of sleep the night before. Should you skip your workout or should you go in and work out easy or do mobility work? Next question, this person's clients talk a lot about staying away from white, simple carbs and those kinds of foods, is it a myth

or is there some science behind that? Next question, do we think it's a good idea for someone who has had an eating disorder in the past to enter into a bodybuilding contest. The answer is, no, that's not a good idea. But we go deeper into it though. And the final question, this person wants to know which fitness influencers we'd like to wipe off the face of the earth.

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Did you tell me about the skeleton? Yeah, you have to preface it. I got scared. Yeah. I did remember when we first got the studio I was like one of the first purchases I wanted to make I was like we're gonna use a skeleton We're gonna have one of those you're a little bit impulsive sometimes with your purchases You bought you bought this little tin what else did I you bought two arcades? Hey, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, my own money. I Didn't say it doesn't matter.

You're still a great idea. Oh, it is a good idea. You're still a poster, bro. I still want to gauntlet and your street fighter because you talk so much shit. I got both of those, each for a thousand dollars each, and they, I could sell them right now for two grand each. Really?

But right now you're still down to grand each, is that it? I know, I'm invested. Yes, just like I am in the Camaro. Hey, invested. Hey, let me be honest, okay, is this, is this true? Could this be true? You're a my you have, your shit's all buried. Do you have a little bit, do you have a little bit of impulsivity with purchases?

Of course I do. Okay. Of course I do. So that's not the first person to say that. Of course I do. I know I have, I know I am a little bit. Just a little bit though. You know what I've done though? Is know Christmas is his last Christmas. My gift that I asked from Katrina that I wanted was actually to get it up and running.

I had her, she fixed it all up and had it back up and running. And so I was like, you still have it? Yeah, would you do it with it? up and had it back up and running. And so I was, the quad, you still have it? Yeah. What'd you do with it? It sounded her, her brothers,

they have like an acre and a half out there. And so I was actually just riding it. And maybe, I don't know, two or three months ago, was a little bit longer now. Maybe four months ago, I was riding it and having a blast on it, and I was so glad that I kept it. Shut up. I'm like, the chase broke on it though dude, and I was so glad that I kept it. The chains broke on it, because it sat for so long,

and so I was whipping it around out there and then the chain snaths off it. So now it's like sitting in the fucking garage you get needs to work on it. But this you got a good solid hour. I can't talk too much shit. I got like the old pickup truck that's just getting like dirt and rust.

Is that, okay, so is that your most impulsive buy that's your worst? Well, that one I've had since high school. So I've worked on it and then I traded up and got one that was like, Did you buy that, there was a pack down. I say for, no, I bought it. Oh, you do buy it. Yeah, I worked two summers to buy it

and then start upgrading it and then working on it on my own. Went to auto shop to try and do all this shit myself and then realized, I don't got time for this. Yeah, I should just pay big bucks and get it done. Yeah, I'm trying to think what I've bought and that's like, you are not impulsive at all. You are the opposite. Yeah, I'm trying to think if I ever go.

You're the guy who, you're like my friend who like wants something, but then he'll really want something, but then he'll like convince himself like, yeah, I'm probably not gonna do that. You're tell you like tell everybody I'm getting this nice thing to just be awesome then you get like the knockoff. Yeah, I almost I almost made a really expensive and pulse of buy back when I was 20. I that was the last time you almost made it in pulse of I just want to get 20 years ago. I almost did this one time. It was one time, but it was real close. It was an extra pair of socks and I was like,

oh, stupid. No, I was 20 and I was living with my parents making a shit ton of money running gyms. And everybody kept telling me I needed to buy a nice car. I was driving a Volkswagen Golf. Some of our stories are so similar about that. And everybody's like, you gotta buy a cool car. You gotta buy a cool car.

So I'm like, ah, really? I don't know, maybe. So I went to, do you know the Ferrari dealership in Los Gados? Oh shit. You went like, all right. So I looked at, they had a used Lotus. Remember the Lotus?

I've always loved Lotus. So I looked at it and I saw the price. I'm like, I could totally afford this, you know, and I almost, It's like the Miata. And then I did charge. I didn't do. Lotus is badass, car.

You don't like Lotus? Yeah, they're all right. The old school one. They're all right. It's like a wedge. Yeah don't like Lotus? Yeah, they're all right. The old school one? They were like a wedge. Yeah, no, I remember that. You know that you did what I did though. Same thing, I remember when I first got into management at 24-off in this and I started making really good money

and I was still driving around my high school car. I had an Acura Integra and it was like totally fast and furious, tricked out. And I remember upper management like giving me a hard time because I had, and it was head to five inch, she's awesome. So I told you, yes. So you hear me come up to like these big, coffee cans, big company meetings,

buh, buh, buh, you know, bass in the back like, and I remember them, and I'm like, I'm only 20, right? 20, or I would say no, this time I'm like 21, 22, or about to be 22, because I bought my house to 22. So I was 21, gonna be 22, driving this thing

to meetings, making good money. And at that time I had a good amount of money saved up. I think I had like 60 or $70,000 that I'd saved up. And I wanted a beamer. So I wanted a five series or an M5. And I remember like I was this close to going to buy it. And you know, and I had luckily I had some good mentors at that time that were like, don't do that right now, buy your house first.

Then after that you'll get whatever car you want within a couple of years. And it was the best advice I ever took. I still continued driving around that car and I went and bought a house and then after I bought the house. Here's a good example of the kind of person I am, right? So when we were kids, it was the thing was to get an amazing stereo system in I am, right? So when I was, when we were kids, it was, it was the thing was to get

an amazing stereo system in your car, right? That was the thing. Like if you had money, you went and you got yourself some 12 inch subwoofers in the back, amp and the whole deal. So you guys remember what we call Rockford Fosgate punch, I think they were called? That was like a popular speaker. They were pretty good.

They weren't, maybe not JBL, but they were pretty good. Right. They were decent. So instead, what did I do? I went to the flea market. Cause I was so much. Exactly. And I saw these speakers.

I saw these speakers that they were called crunch. So they were knock off. They were knock off. They said crunch. Well, I put them in the back of my truck. I got, I got had ones. So when I first moved to San Jose, like, so I come from small town, right? And you know, if you're a small town kid like me and you move to the Bay Area, like you're

not savvy to all the hustlers. There's hustlers everywhere. And I don't know if you guys ever been hit up by these guys before, but there, this used to be a major hustle in San Jose. And they got me when I was like in my early 20s, where the guy would like sell you like speakers, that he just bought like a home stereo system that's worth like $3,000 and they'd get you

for like $300 to $500 for it. But then you get it and you take it home and fucking none of it worked. It was like all fake. It was like a fake. It looked just like the shit that you would go buy at fucking good guys or whatever that was. Yeah. Like one of the stores, circuit city or whatever. You'd have the catalog and everything. They drive around like a van and they cruise the parking lot,

find some kid like the Cologne people. Yes. Very similar. I have to hit me up with that, even in Santa Cruz. Yeah. So he put and I remember that got me because I was all industry. That's how they they they hear me me basin' it in my car, right? You know, and I pull up, dude runs up to me, says, hey man, I just, I bought this stereo system and they actually gave me two of them, and I'm trying to get rid of one of them, and he shows me like the cowling, he's like,

here's all the stuff, here's what it's worth. And he's like, I'll give it to you for like 300 bucks right now, and I'm like, I'm like, what? You know, I guess it come up. So I literally, he follows me to the bank. I pull out 300 bucks, get all the shit loaded in my car, get home, fucking nothing, dude. None of it works.

Completely fake. Twice, I hit like that. I hit another time. So I didn't learn my lesson the first time. I just thought I was furiating. Yeah. The second time I was pissed, I was pissed to myself. Like, oh shit,

like this is how they get down over here. Like people just be hustling everywhere. And to your point about the Rockford Fodzegate, cause it was actually Rockford Fodzegate speaker, guy sold me for like a hundred bucks, you know, a 12 inch Rockford Fodzegate punch speaker, and it had the whole box, everything. You know, he gave it to me for a hundred bucks.

I knew the value of that at that time. Same thing to the speaker was obviously blown or something. You can't see that. You can't tell. You can't tell. It's he go plug it all in and like an asshole, I totally fell for it, bought it. It's a scumbass. I got a good like hustle story too.

Like this back when, you know, when the URLs were a big thing, like you buy like WWE dot, whatever. And it was like, this was the new gold rush, because like you had heard on the radio and stuff that like some people have come up on all this money because they got, because they buy it to the name bars. Amazon.com, for example.

Exactly, yeah, that's, some before the actual company gets it, then the company has to pay them for that and this and the other. And so this guy told you hustle me, he's like, and this is back when, like, you know, the internet was just like brand new. And I'm like, wow, you can make that kind of money from this?

Oh yeah, man, I'd sold my last one to one of my friends. And he made, you know, 50 grand, like just off of like owning the rights to this. I'm like, wow, dude, that's crazy. Like, he's got, I got one. And so he knew my pain point. He knew I like Star Wars. So he, that's crazy. I got one, and so he knew my pain point. He knew I like Star Wars, so he's like, dude, I got one Star Wars merchandise.com. Like, think about it.

You know, I'm like, this is making sense. Looked the line in the city. Yeah, I'm like, wow, so he's like, you could have it, and then you could, you know, you can use it, you could sell, like, Star Wars merchandise someday, and make a business out of it, like, yeah, I could do that. You know, I could totally do it, or they buy it, you could sell like Star Wars merchandise someday and make a business out of it, like yeah, I could do that. You know, I could totally do it. Or they buy it from you.

Like, yeah, you're not gonna lose. And I'm like, yeah, I'm not gonna lose. So you had to buy it off of him? I bought it for like 500 bucks. Do you still have it? No. Would you do it? No, I have no idea.

I didn't just, just, yeah, I didn't renew it. Cause that's not a bad URL. Star Wars merchandise. Go daddy, like, took it from me. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's actually not a bad one. After 10 years of sitting on it and not doing't renew it. Because that's not a bad URL. Star Wars merchandise. Go daddy, like took it from me. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's actually not a bad one. After 10 years of sitting on it,

not doing anything with it. Somebody sold it for 10 years, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Wow. Anyways, like Captain Gunnable. Are those ever. Did I ever share the hustle, the time I got hustled in Hawaii,

like the first Hawaii trip? This is not the script club. Yes, yes. I did share that. Okay, that's probably the worst hustle. That's my favorite. That is not the strip club. Yes, yes, I did show that. Okay. That was that's probably the worst hustle. That's the fucking worst. Oh, you know why that's so good because a version of that has happened to somebody. Every guy has had, he's gotten ripped off at a strip club when you were a first-timer. Dude, so there's actually like a movie, I was watching a movie trailers and

there was, there was a movie that's called the Hustlers. Oh, the one with what's their name, JLo? JLo and Cardi B. Yeah. So it's like that's the whole premise of the movie was like based off a true story of a group of these strippers who united together

to just basically rip off every rich guy that came through there. And they ran all these cons on them and stuff. Well, no, the ultimate hustle is they'll drink with you. And you don't know you're paying for the drinks for everybody. Or they'll dance, they'll give you a lap dance, and they'll keep going even though the song's over. And then next one comes on and you're like, oh, cool. She's still going.

In the movie, they would get them super drunk or give them some kind of drug or get them super loose to where they're like, ugh, almost passing out and they would just take their credit card and like swipe it. Well, yeah, so, I had nobody complaining. I had boys that woke up and all their shit was gone in hotel rooms, like multiple dudes that had happened to in Vegas, where their role X's were gone, like all their shit was gone.

And then you're, you know why it's such a good hustle is because the guys, you don't say nothing. They feel so ashamed. Yeah, yeah, and embarrassed. Most dudes were, most dudes were already in like another relationship or something shit. a good hustle is because the guys don't say nothing. They feel so ashamed. Yeah, yeah. And embarrassed. Oh, my God. And most dudes were already in like another relationship or so shit. So I can't tell my wife what I'm gonna say.

So you get, so they fucking steal fire. The stripper took on my money. Yeah, wait a minute. Hold on a second. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, that's hilarious. Dude, did I tell you guys about the article I read on skinny dipped?

No. So skinny dipped? No. So skinny dipped, guess how many almonds they sold last year? How many pounds? There's actually an article about that? Yeah, because they're blowing up. Wow. They're blowing up 360,000 pounds of almonds they sold last year. And they were just listed on pop sugar.

You guys from the website pop sugar? No. So it's a popular site that lists like top five, whatever, top 12, you know, whatever. Very, very, very heavily populated site. Anyway, they were named the top snack you should have if you're in college because, of course, it's lower in sugar, it tastes good, and it's interesting.

Oh, interesting. Yeah, shut up those guys. Yeah, so they are crushing it. So Justin is, you know,. Shout out to those guys. Yeah, so they are crushing it. So Justin is, you know, you're not the only one. Hey, you know, the addicts unite. I know this whole time, I thought it was you who was completely financing there.

Trying to stay skinny, unskinied it? No, that's the real thing. That's the real thing. If you need five bags at a time, you're not supposed to eat the whole thing. I tell everybody the hack is to buy the fucking small ones. Like the where they get where you'll get caught up is if you buy the bag that has 900 calories, like that's where you get fucked.

If you buy the small bags and you just say, hey, I'm allowed to have the, because that one bag is only like 200 some calories. It's not a bad snack. No, not at all. Yeah, this is a little bit of an inappropriate story, but this happened to me yesterday. We were coming back from my son's soccer game or soccer practice and I'm driving.

And I saw my friend was out with his dog and I had the dog in the back. And so I was like, oh, at the park, I was like, just let me out and then I'll have him drive me home. And so I get out of the car and Courtney goes over to the driver's side and she's trying to tell me and get my attention as I'm walking away.

And she's like, hey, hey, hey, and she's laughing and stuff, and I'm like, what, what do you want, and all this stuff? And she's looking down and there's a melted skinny dip. Oh God. Right where on the corner of the seat, and she thought, it's all over your shorts. Maybe she thought it was something else.

She said. I'm like, really? I'm like, you thought that I just nuggeted? Like that sounds like exiting the car? She's like, she's like, I wouldn't put it past you. Oh my god. So don't let that happen. Don't eat on the drive. There's another, yeah. That's actually, yeah, that's happened to me already where I've lost one.

And then they melt and you're pants and you get up and then you have like, yeah, they're so smudged and it was like, it did look like it. To her credit, take it in, take it in an L. And then what you do in public is you walk up to your friend and you like, scrape some of it off and, oh, I know, I should have scrapped it. We've got eight of it right.

I love that poop. Hey, how was basketball last time? Oh yeah, dude, you look like you're okay. Yeah, no. You look thinner. I'm just one basketball session. I'm like, this is a whole new skinny guy. So you gotta tell the audience,

so you're joined a basketball league, like a men's league. Oh, you actually joined a little, I think you just went a game. Whoa, I don't know, you're getting your information for me. Oh, that makes sense. Yeah, this is like, this is a bunch of old guys and young guys that like have an open gym kind of situation.

So yeah, now I went to go play and I was doing like, all these mobility drills and everything all day long because like I just was paranoid. I was paranoid. I don't know what was gonna happen. It'd been a couple of years since I really had gone, you know, that hard with basketball or any kind of sport that's like, you know, really taxing on the joints and the body. And so, man, my,

the only thing, and I mean, did you guys win? No, I lost like every game I played in, which would suck, because I was like that common denominator whenever I was on somebody's team, like we lost. Like, it's horrible. I was totally dogging it. Like, I had no lungs. Like, I literally haven't like even jogged. Yeah, that's the worst part. And the last thing, but actually I had decent skills. I've made a couple of threes, you know guys,

close in the game, but we'd lose. And so I enjoyed the time off though in between where I'd like, sit out a game or two. But, no scares? No scares, no scares, no nothing. But then I get home and I just, oh, I had this cramp in my stomach and I'm like, oh, this is awful, I couldn't even eat afterwards.

And I go to sleep and it was so bad all night at this pain in my stomach and I had to like draw myself a bath at like two in the morning. Just to relax. You had to take a bath after a bath, cool. Yeah, I was taking a bath, dude. At two a.m. Hold on, what the fuck?

Hold on, did you have... I tried having it, I was like, You know what I'm talking about. I'm like, oh, no idea what it was. Have no idea. Did you eat a post game chili dog or whatever? No, that... Nothing.

I wish I could, because then I would know. You know what it is. I'm gonna make an educated guy. I was just cramping. I'm gonna make an educated guy. I can't start it. You are to, to almost to a fall, extremely competitive. And I'm wondering if you stressed yourself to fuck out

before the games. I probably did. And he had a little bit of a dretel and dump afterwards. Yeah. And me losing, like it really gets to me. I know this. And Adam knows this fuck you by the way.

Yeah, I was just gonna say to you know I know this because you've lost a couple games of corn to the pond to Adam and it's stressing you out. I don't like it hurts my gut. I don't like it like I carry it all my hair. I'm gonna have a meeting without Adam. You said you better let him. He said you bad loser. Which is makes it so fun to win.

Look how that he is. It's just a big game. Which is makes it so fun to win Come back We have a we have a thing going right now for the audience that we play cornhole I mean if you like oh, I'm a good cornhole or cool Give yourself a title. It's on ESPN now bro. Fuck off dude So it's crossfit. Hey, it's not a real thing. It's fine So but what's the what's the bet whoever wins chooses the music? Yeah, yeah, whoever's winning. So I intentionally play my country music whenever we play.

That's the most painful part. Yeah. Even if I hear country in the grocery store or something, it reminds me of a lot. So I do it. Oh my gosh. I'm stuck. I'm stuck. It's so angry. I love it. So, oh my gosh, took it so he agrees. I love it.

It's stupid. So, okay, so right now, you're the winner, because so you get to play country. Yeah. So, whoever wins picks the music. Right. So, if Justin wins, we would get death metal. Oh, 100%.

I'm gonna go like really heavy, crazy, scary death metal. Yeah, like, like, scare the shit out of me. I'm rooting for you. I'm rooting for you. I'm gonna play, if I win, we'll play EDM. We'll play some European EDM. You're never gonna win. You're gonna, hey, look.

You know what? You have, you for sure. You've been playing. You've been careful. No, you've been careful. You have the best luck in the world, like like single one-time shot stuff. Some people call it skill.

But to play a full game from beginning to end. You're like captain carnival games. Yes, yes. Look, there's only one time we've ever played a sport against each other or almost like that. That's not a sport. It was it was it was it was again. It's a carnival. We played a horse. Yeah. Okay. We all kind of like basketball. Yeah. And we recorded the whole thing. So anyway, I mean, never play again. I know. I'll never live that. What's funny about that is I knew after I won that game that I'd never play again. I know, I'll never live that. What's funny about that is I had knew after I won that game

that I'd never played basketball. You guys know it. I could say that forever. Speaking of basketball, so I was so pumped about this. I think I told you guys before I've been on the HBO and Showtime kick. I'm like, not that I'm anti-Nepflakes, but I mean, everybody's been jokin' Netflix

for like the last three years. I'm like, you know what? HBO and Showtime still put out fucking fire documentaries, fire shows. And so I've been going through and I've been watching a lot of showtime and HBO lately. And so the recently I saw a preview to what was getting released yesterday,

or the day before yesterday, whatever it was. And it was Lebron James' new like series that he has that he was called Undisputed. And it was Lebron James' new, like, series that he has that he was called undisputed. And it looked rad. I mean, the lineup of people that were a part of it and the ideas like this, you know, authentic, unedited type of, or unscripted conversation in a barber shop and it's all these big name celebrities

that are super popular. Now, sports so other athletes and other sports comedians and so I was really excited to watch it but it didn't take but maybe five minutes or so into it and immediately like I was like fuck really dude like you just took something that I thought was a really good idea and we turned it into like a Political agenda and that's what it feels like and it should have known better because as soon as it starts Jonathan Stewart's there. It's like there's all these it's like all these other all these other guy athletes are in there, right? And then Jonathan Stewart like what the fuck is he doing? But he's obviously in there because he's the only real professional interviewer. And so he really orchestrates and drives the conversation.

You need to anchor. Otherwise it's just, right. And so, and when you can tell everything that he contributes or he asks, it's like, it's setting the table for some underlining agenda that's going on about LeBron's brand and what they're trying to make him look as this woke dude and the questions that he's asking I think are like, so I was really let down and I was so it was one of those things I was really excited

about that I thought the concept and the idea was brilliant but it definitely, I mean, you could tell by the way they edited it too. So you know, here's and I feel like and the reason why I wanted to bring it up because I feel like this is going to be the next real big popular thing. I know we, we have, you know, talked about authenticity and that we don't, we don't edit anything. We don't show prep. It's like it's completely real.

And, and there's no edits either. Doug doesn't, we say some stupid on the show, it gets aired stupid. I'm sure. Right. That's part of the thing that we, we agreed early on. And so there's this new movement of authenticity and being real. But yet when you still, you can tell when it's engineered though. Yeah, it's, well, it's edited.

You know, so it's clipped. It's clipped and they, and they piece parts together to, to's well, it's edited. Yeah. You know, so it's clipped. It's clipped and they piece parts together to put an overarching message. And I think that this is going to become more and more popular of, you know, look how real and authentic I am, but it's really not completely real and authentic because it's cut and spliced and positioned in a way to have some sort of a theme.

And I think that we're going to see more and more. And it reminds me, do you remember, do you guys remember when reality TV first started? Oh yeah, blew up. Yeah, when reality. Do you remember puck? Well, in the real world. Yes.

And do you remember how like real it was? Like when it first started, like I don't think they knew what to do with it. It was like, let's just film these people in real world. Or booze. And yeah, just let them, and we put them together and see what happens, and then what they saw happen, and they saw what got the ratings,

then more and more of it became scripted and orchestrated and set up. So here's the deal. Here's the thing that we need to understand. The consumers, because I always go back and forth between, is this an agenda, or are they just feeding into consumers? No, it's totally feeding into consumers. Yeah, because did you see that post I did

where I had a post that it was CNN and Fox News and it had like two little bubbles like they were talking and it said, you know, we, our goal is to divide everybody and we try to feed one side of the population. We try to feed the other, you know, whatever. And as if it's an agenda and a lot of people agree that it's an agenda, but I honestly think it's just, they're just producing what people watch and people like drama. Yeah, but you're just thinking that they're

in a lot of drama and reality. They're not a lot of real drama. They're producing what people want, but they're doing it in a deceitful way. That's the part that I don't like. Because I think people, because I think when you make it in a not deceitful way, they don't get as great a ratings. You know what I'm saying? That's what it is. That's the popular thing right now. Like people wanted to look real, but not be real.

Right. Yeah. Because in real life, think about it this way. Imagine if your real life was as dramatic as a reality show. You would die of anxiety and stress to be insane. Dude, it reminds me of that. What shows it? It's the one where the guy comes in and he takes over the bar

and redes it. I guess the bar flip thing. Yeah, where he comes in and kind of overhalls it. And the first couple ones, they tried to find the scummiest bar. They possibly could have like cockroaches and things and all that. But I guess there was this whole article that came out where they actually like have proven that they actually now place like cockroaches just for shots and then they'll make it super dirty and then, you know, the bar owners get pissed because they're like, dude, we were not that disgusting.

We were not that disgusting, but we'll be on the show because we want like, you know, some of the remodeling you guys are going to do. Right. You know, so they're like, well, that's like, you know, I guess the remodeling you guys are gonna do. You know, so they're like, well, that's like, you know, I guess we'll go through like looking like assholes. I thought, there was a, I shared on my, so on my answer story, hopefully it'll still be up there when this goes live. I shared a, a critic that had wrote about it

that I thought did a really good job. I think it was tasteful the way he criticized it because it wasn't like, it wasn't like somebody hardcore from the right that was like completely trashing it. It was just like, you know, there's an obvious theme, there's a reason why they edited the way they did. And so unfortunately, you know, for somebody who thought they were getting

a real, true, complete, authentic conversation, it's not completely... You know what it is, it makes me wonder, it's like, in the past, if you liked a product or show, just because it was cool, that was enough. But it's almost like today, it has to be like, it has to have some kind of purpose and meaning, almost like, hey, I like this candy bar just cause it's delicious.

Well, they get this one because this is a life-sounding candy bar. They even compare him to Michael Jordan multiple times in the, the, the, the, the, the critic. You should read the article. He, he writes about this because Michael Jordan in his time was, you know, the, the, the message was, you know, for a really good athlete like him was to stay out of politics, stay out of what you're not great at. Just be the super athlete that you are and let your sport do the talking for you. Instead of putting your opinion all out there, but today is different.

Today, like everybody wants to know, well, what does LeBron James think about what's going on with the climate right now? And because that we have this connection to celebrities on another level than we used to, more and more people want to hear this stuff. And it's unfortunate because we're giving the mic and we're giving the attention to these people that probably shouldn't be talking about topics like this, not because they can't talk about it,

but because they just really don't have a real educated opinion on it. And yet it makes for good TV though, to have these guys talking about it. But it's a different time now. Now people wanna hear all that stuff. Everything's like that. It's not just enough to make nice shoes. You also now make nice shoes and Show that you care about something else. You know, I'm saying it's become marketable. There's a good side to that the good side is

You know more and more companies are trying to do better and better things But there's a bad side to it do there's misallocation of resources Oftentimes companies that do that, their business fails because they take their resources and allocate it towards something that is to make them look a certain way when they should have spent that money on making a better product, which would have benefited everybody. Right. Now it's turned into a bunch of people of virtue signaling. That's what it's turned into. And I agree with you, like there's definitely some good to it. Like I think that,

I remember when Tom's first came out with their campaign, there was one of the first companies that did, that were smart like that and said, hey, we're gonna, for every pair of shoes bought here, we're gonna give a pair of shoes. I think that was amazing. They were some of the leaders that, that were doing things like that. We're now, everybody looks at it as a business strategy. It's like, oh, like, I'm gonna start a business right away. I'm already thinking like, they're angling with it. Yeah, they're angling and, oh, I'm gonna start a business. Right away, I'm already thinking, they're angling with it.

Yeah, they're angling. And oh, look at me, this is what we're doing with it. I have so much more respect for somebody that does all this philanthropy that has, but you have no idea about it. Like, oh shit, you find out later, like, oh shit, I didn't have no idea that Sal took 20% of his salary and was putting it here and doing this with it, doing that,

because you know why? Because he didn't announce it on the podcast. He didn't put it out there. There's an argument for either way, right? Like sometimes somebody can influence other people to do the same thing, and that can generate more money for charity or whatever. But at the end of the day, I think you have to really care

because it's not a money maker. It takes resources away from your business, and you're not doing anybody favors, any favors if your business fails. Now you've lost your ability to do any kind of good in the world, and here's the other part, and people don't like to hear this part, this is true, if a company's providing something

that people like and they're profiting, then they are doing some kind of good. Even if that product is not something you necessarily agree with, it at least shows that people enjoy the product enough to trade their dollars for it. And so at the end of the day, what is the response, and they're employing people? Yeah, right. What is the responsibility of a business?

Is the responsibility of a business to try to make the world a better place, or is it just to give people better products for what they want? Arguments can be actually made quite well. I've heard arguments for you to side, made very, very effectively. So, I don't know. Anyway, got a study for you guys. That's kind of cool.

So, a new study just came out on branch chain amino acids. Oh, I'm glad you bring this up. I was just talking to our boy. Branding about this. Yes. So, branching amino acids, there's been lots and lots of studies done on them for years now. And they've shown pretty conclusively past studies that branching amino acids don't do

anything except unless your protein intake is really low. So if you have really low protein intake, and you're an endurance athlete. Yeah, and then you supplement with BCAAs or essentially amino acids would seem to be better, then you'll get benefit. But if you eat adequate protein, you don't even have to have a high protein diet. Just adequate protein, supplementing with amino acids does nothing for you because proteins are chains of all the amino acids. So it's dumb to supplement with them when you're getting all you need from protein. Right. So the studies show waste the money unless you're super low on protein,

then it might actually help you, in which case just take a scoop of protein powders, what I would say. But new study just came out. Oh, okay. You wanna know what it said? I do. Same fucking thing.

What's that? You said it for me. You got me. Total waste. Yeah, you have, you go, oh, God, we're gonna go back on what we said. Zero reason? No, another big study, banshamingo acids do not improve muscle recovery from resistance

to exercise in young adults. So another study showing that it is a waste of money. And just for the audience to know, banshamingo acids and amino acids were among some of the first specific fitness health supplements. So those are some of the first specific fitness health supplements. Those are some of the first ones that came out. Once we realized that proteins were made up of amino acids, which was a long time ago, and then we realized wait,

some amino acids have different roles in the body. Supplement manufacturers were brilliant and said, oh cool, let's supplement amino acids into acids, you know, into people's diets, and sell these pills or whatever, and people will buy them. And they do. And every, you know, I don't know, five or 10 years, for as long as I've been in the fitness space, they tend to make a resurgence. Like, they were big for a second, and then everybody's like, they're dumb, and then they're big for a second, and then everybody's like, they're dumb, and it seems like they're making a lot of noise. Well, at least you look cool, just sipping on it all day, with a straw.

Yeah. Yeah, that going for you. Actually, at least you look cool just sipping on it all day with a straw. Yeah. You got that going for you. Actually, that's terrible, right? Like, you can actually take too many branching amino acids and cause yourself problems. They can actually reduce the amount of dopamine that your brain produces, mess with your neurotransmitters, and some people with very high doses of branching amino acids,

which none of us would ever normally hit, but knowing how idiotic people can be in our space, and I've seen people do this, well they'll buy BCAA powders, and they'll sip on them, instead of drinking water, they'll drink that all day long to make their muscles grow or whatever. So at those types of doses, you could actually give yourself like chemical depression, almost make yourself feel like shit. So if you're supplementing with tons of BCAs, and you can't figure out why you're sad, it might be your supplement. That's really popular though,

in the hardcore fitness space. I mean, that's kind of a staple move right there. I think it's just cause it tastes good, bro. Have you tasted some of these BCAA powder drinks? I don't think it's cause it tastes curious. I think it's because. I think it's because. I think it's because it tastes good and they think it's good protein,

it's gonna make them build muscle. Yeah, I think it's more, I mean, I know what I was like as a kid who didn't understand it early on and what it was for me was, oh my God, if I'm not getting a protein meal in every two hours, my next best thing is the supplement with BCAAs because if not, muscle could fall off my body. And especially if I was in a calorie restrict to diet.

I'm trying to lose body fat. I'm not getting a ton of calories as it is. I must be taking, you know, branch-chain amino acids to make sure that, I mean, I even used to say that as a trainer early on. I remember telling clients, like, oh, you know, you wanna take this just because what will happen is before your body starts to burn muscle,

it'll use this branch channel amino acid instead. That was like the theory and what I thought for a very long time as a young trainer. And, you know, it's, and it's still very popular in the bodybuilding culture. I mean, it's everybody is saying, and I don't think it's because of the bubblegum flavor. I mean, it helps.

I think that's the big reason why I keep it. I don't like it so much because think about this way. I mean, it helps. I think that's a big reason why people like it so much. Because think about it this way. When you're dieting and you're trying to build muscle and get shredded, oh no, I don't want to lose muscle though. And I'm fucking hungry because I'm dieting. Oh cool, I can drink watermelon, you know, punch or whatever. So now I get my sweet tooth and no calories,

artificially flavored and I get my BCAAs or whatever, which again, waste of time of money. Speaking of artificial sweeteners. So our friend, Lane Norton did another post on... Did you say Lane Norton? No, Lane. You said Lane. I'm sure people have said that too on the lane of time.

But anyway, he did a whole post on artificial sweeteners because another study came out on artificial sweeteners. Now, this was a massive meta-analysis. You guys know what that means? A lot of people, tons of people involved. Yeah, that means that they take lots of studies and they analyze all the studies down on a topic. Smash it together.

So they, so research, and they're good. Meta-analysis are cool because, you know, studies can be, one can show one thing, one can show another thing, and sometimes they sound like they contradict each other. So what these types of studies do is they take all these studies, or a lot of studies, they'll pick them out, usually it's anywhere between 20 to 50, and they'll pick the ones, they'll pick some of them out, and then they'll analyze those studies and then come up with conclusions.

So that's what this did. So this came out, and what he posted is he said, this meta analysis showed that, you know, artificial sweeteners don't cause people to eat more food and gain more body fat. And so he was all, you know, proud of this study. And so then I went and looked at the study myself and read it and the study also shows that they don't make you lose weight either.

So here's what you can conclude from this. We know that then this is a fact that in order to lose weight, you have to take in less calories in your burn, right? That's a fact. Okay. So if you're replacing a sugary drink that has 250 calories with an artificially sweetened drink that has zero calories, you should be, you're making up with that with something. You should be consuming 250 less calories a day

or more in turn, every single day. Instead, what the study shows is people switch to artificial sweeteners and they don't lose any weight. Now, they don't gain any weight either, but they don't lose any weight. Now, what does this tell us? There's only two conclusions. Conclusion one, the artificial sweeteners

themselves cause weight gain. I don't think that's the case. There's lots of studies to show that they don't really do that directly. There's some weird studies out there that show there may be some weird side mechanisms, but probably not a powerful effect if there is any at all. So I don't think that's what the case is. Here's what I think, and here's what we learned as trainers forever, is that people consuming these things, don't change their behaviors,

make them hungry, and they just their behaviors, makes them hungry, and they just replace those calories with other food, which is why I never recommend. Pretty normal. Artificial sweetener drinks to begin with, because I know it doesn't work. If I tell clients, don't drink soda, drink diet soda, they end up not losing weight

because they replace it with regular drinks. I can't wait for that Instagram story that you're the Instagram thing you're gonna do with him. Are you guys scheduled to do that soon? Yeah, we're trying to book a time for him and I to talk about this topic and then answer a question. And I like Lane because he's objective, science-based. And but we come from two different camps.

He's a scientist. His experience coaching people is working with athletes, bikini competitors, bodybuilders, physique competitors. My experience is entirely working with everyday average people. And so I think that there's different kinds of things you learn working with different people. And, you know, when you're working with, if I'm working with someone who's getting ready

for a show, I could have them use artificial sweeteners because I know they're counting everything and they're not gonna replace it. But when we're talking about behaviors, people, those artificial sweeteners tend to not help at all. It's just, yeah, okay, now you're lower calories on the sugar but you replace it with something else, doesn't work for anybody. Well, I live both worlds.

This is why I kind of, I float back in fourth line. We've talked about me drinking diet coke, you've seen me drink zero calorie drinks before, but you have the same float. At the same time. At the same time, I side with you on that, not being a recommendation to any of my clients, because I know every average day people

that are just trying to make better healthier choices, and they think they're making a better healthier choice by having the zero calorie drink or zero calorie thing, whatever, they think that they're making a better choice, but what I know, those people end up replacing it with other foods. But I do see the value with somebody who is a competitor, somebody who is weighing and measuring every single thing that they consume and they're like, man, I haven't had any sort of sugar or sweet.

And so here I'm going to have this thing and I'm going to treat it like a dessert for myself, but also make sure that I don't over consume someone else. sugar or sweet and so here I'm gonna have this thing and I'm gonna treat it like a dessert for myself but also make sure that I don't over consume some more. The people that have the discipline that are getting ready for a show are completely different than the average Jane or Joe. And I will even go as far as to say, are they the people that we should look to

when trying to figure out how to create a long-term, healthy relationship? Absolutely not. Now I would go- Especially since those same people, okay, and I know what this was like too, when you get off of competing for the show. Oh, you're fucked.

You go bananas. You do. I know very few competitors that I've had the discipline post show to like not put on 20 pounds right afterwards. No, I would say there's the worst people to look at when you're trying to figure out how to have a long-term approach to nutrition. Those are the worst, absolutely worse.

And what these foods do, artificial sweeteners and other highly processed, highly palatable type foods, is they change the way you perceive other tastes. So you're consuming, you know, 10 tend to look, if you don't believe me and you want to experiment on yourself, here's what you could do. Drink three diet sodas every single day and then notice how bland fruit starts to taste. Notice how you start to crave that extreme sweetness

that you get from artificial sweetens, which is even more sweet, by the way, than sugar. And you can't tell me that's not gonna have a negative effect on your behavior's long term, of course it does. So that tends to be the issue. Oh, Burning Man, didn't they just finish that? Of course, because there's nothing about Instagram pictures of everybody. How played out is it because I'm so bummed about that, man. I know it was something I wanted to do, but now I can't.

It's just like everybody now. But they bring their fun. I thought it was supposed to wanted to do, but now I can't. Yeah, it's just like everybody now. But they bring their fun. Like I thought it was supposed to be an experience where you get away from all everything. But no, I have to capture it and I have to show you my little outfit. No, it's becoming a place now where you dress real sexy and you take psychedelics and then you do something. That's called Halloween. Yeah, why do we need this too? Well, it still looks fun as fuck, but I'm just, I'm over because I feel like everybody wants to do it.

I'm always the kid who wanted to do like what everybody else wasn't doing. It's too popular. And it wasn't that, it didn't seem like it was that popular just five years ago. And now it's like everybody. I'm sure it is a blast, but I'm with you. It's like, damn it.

Now it's played out. But, do you guys hear about Flume? Do you guys know Flume is? No. Flume is a DJ. So he's a popular European DJ. He plays a lot of... I saw an article about this.

Yeah, he plays a lot of what's it called, EDM type music and relatively popular. Anyway, he's doing a set on stage and a girl jumps on stage and he eats her butt. What? Yeah, he ate her butt on stage. Like straight up in the butt. Like in front of her hands off and everything How did you find out about this?

Wow it was all over the news people are filming it and people like what the fuck is going on right now? Oh, and you know who posted a video? That's a bold move. It's a sweaty sandy dirty butt It's a right it's nonetheless, it's a random butt. A little winning round. Yeah, that's what I mean. You're taking, you're rolling the dice right there. Oh, you're taking, you're hoping to, you're taking a real chance.

Hoping to God she had baby wipes or some of good wipes right before that and then she's all turned up. I don't know if she's got a healthy gut by now. That's the easiest way to get a parasite ever. Oh, but anyway, you know who posted the video of him doing it? Who? His girlfriend. His girlfriend was there. Woo. Yeah. The way. I ever oh, but anyway, you know you know who posted the video of him doing it. Who is girlfriend?

That's a red I guess is girlfriend video tape him eating some girls Made big news those are the kind of stories I like yeah, but it makes me one second. It's burning man I'm like what do you expect I'm sure he's not the only one that was doing that yeah burning man I'll say ass eat and go on anyway Anyway, did we ever talk about how we made the lists on men's health and ask men? Did we mention that? We should pretty much brag. Yeah, you know, like, it should tell people how good we are.

You know, I think we did it because it's like a backhanded compliment. The fact that we're up there with Jillian Michaels and of course you can be there though. She's so mainstream. She's like Nike, like anybody listens to that shit. Yeah. We paid for this.

Yeah. Sponsored. Hey, but we're top 10 in both of those big categories for fitness and health podcasts. Yeah. And we were the, I'd say we were one of the least, if not the least, commercial. Like, you know what I'm saying?

Everybody else was kind of commercial that was on there. Oh, for sure. We were, Joe D was on there. Yeah. Oh, yeah., now that's good. Yeah, that's very good. Joe D was on that on one and then so was Greenfield. Greenfield and then I felt like there was like four

that were like, okay, these are legit. You know what I'm saying? They got some legit ones in there too, but then it's like, just like in Michaels, Mikey, what, come on. It was a little bit like, it's funny how it does bring, you know, still brings credence or whatever.

We start getting all these people asking to work with us now. It is funny because I think that's another reason why we didn't bring it up because we just live in a different time now where magazines like that just don't really matter anymore. But I was proved wrong because shit, I must have had seven or eight emails the next day

from companies wanting to advertise or do partnerships. I mean, that's even what came up with, oh, we did bring it up because we brought up... Muscle tech. Yes, muscle tech. That's right. That's right. They did bring them.

Yeah, yeah. Because that's what started that. Muscle tech was the first one, and I've had quite a few sense then that... Oh, and if they listened to our episode, we talked shit about them. Yeah, I doubt it. Yeah. No, they don't listen. Shhh!

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how I give this advice, because we know for sure, and I know you guys have had clients, most of your clients would look for excuses to not train and to not do things, right? Most of them need to get their ass in the gym, they need to be putting their work in, they need to do it. They sneeze once. Oh my to be putting their work in. They need to sneeze once.

Oh my God, I think I'm coming down. Right, so I'm very careful with when we give advice, like, oh, you know, you can over train, because it really does the top of the pocket. If I'm talking to the competitor, right, the guy or girl who was like addicted to working out and train seven days a week and rarely ever takes a day off

and they just totally overreached in them and super sore and they didn't get sleep last night. Like 100% I'm going where Sal started to go right there before I interrupted him. Like, yes, take a fucking nap. Take a nap. You probably need a good day off and rest and fully recover. You'll probably come back the next day stronger than what you were before. But most people, I would probably encourage them to go in and do mobility or lighter work. Yes, sleep is one of the most important things. And if you're deprived of it, that is important. But so is staying probably consistent for most people. Yeah. There's two, there's two ways we can look at this. One way is what would be best for your health and your body.

If you had a bad night of sleep, what would be best for your health and your body would probably be to take an app. On the other hand, we also have to look at, and this is where we always go to, how behaviors are made, and what's the most important long term thing you could do in regards to fitness, which is just be consistent. So it reminds me of like the old school birth control pills where, you know, there's 30 pills in there or whatever, but there's seven of them are fake.

They take them anyway, you know what I'm talking about? You guys remember these? Yeah, the sugar ones. Seven are sugar pills. Now, why do they do that? Why do they put in seven sugar pills when all they would have to do is tell the person to just stop taking your birth control for seven days

and then start taking the ritual going? It's the consistency keeping the ball rolling. And so when we're speaking to behaviors, which is probably the most important thing to talk to, is not to lose momentum. It's especially when you're first starting out or you're just starting to get consistent. It gets really hard to change.

Once you start to change course, it gets hard to put yourself back on track. You know, it's like how many times of people worked out consistently, then gone on a business trip for a week, or a vacation, or just gotten sick, so they couldn't work out, and then they just never went back.

It was hard to get the ball rolling again. So that's something you need to consider. If that's you, and you need to know yourself, okay? So, and you can't lie to yourself. If that's you, if you're that kind of person that consistency is very difficult, and you're just now starting to find a little bit of rhythm and consistency, and then you had a bad night of sleep and you're like, gosh, you

know, I'm just, just started getting back on track. It's still kind of difficult for me to be consistent. You probably don't want to miss the workout then go in there and go easy and do mobility work. It won't hurt you. It's not going to hurt you. It's really lightly. They said, I think both the options, they list are fine.

Sometimes when I'm like that, I'll just go through and practice the skill. We talk so much about that on the show about, you know, look at an exercise and just try and work at it like a skill. So this might be a great day for that. This could be a good day where you go in and you're doing 50% of the load, but you're just working on the movement patterns. And that's, or just one thing, like just squatting or just deadlifting, but with really light weight and concentrating on the technique and spending that time, or your other suggestion,

which is a full day of mobility. How often do people do that? How often does somebody just say, hey, I'm going to spend an entire hour of stretching and mobility work? A lot of people don't do that, and a lot of people could use that. And that's a lot more recuperative than going in and hammering the gym. But you have to, like yours to your point,

so you have to be honest with yourself. Yeah, and here's the other thing, too, to consider with sleep is that some people can't nap or some people nap and then it affects their evening sleep. And light exercise, exercise in general does improve your sleep. So can you make up for your bad night of sleep? You can by having a better night of sleep,

the next night, and activity can contribute to that and can help you out. So if it's just one night, go to the gym, go to the gym and go easy. That would be what I would typically recommend, especially from a behavioral standpoint. Next question is from DressFit. I get a lot of new clients believing the stay away from white, simple carbs, myth.

Could you please explain the benefits of simple and complex carbohydrates and when it is beneficial to consume them? Yeah, this is, I think there's, this is communicated wrong. And not only is it communicated wrong, but things, foods get demonized for the wrong kind of reasons. So white bread, pasta, white, simple carbohydrate type of thing, were told that make you store more body fat than other types of carbohydrates. Now the truth is, and this is why there's people in our space who defend those foods so hard

because they're demonized in the wrong way. XS calories make you gain weight, okay, at the end of the day. So if those XS calories come from white bread or they come from sweet potato or oatmeal, if they're XS calories, you're gonna store them as body fat. So inherently, they're not necessarily more fattening. Now, from a health standpoint, they might not be as healthy for you.

They might not have the same bioavailable nutrients. They may make you feel not as good. I know me, if I eat really, really fast acting type carbohydrates too often, I tend to not feel as good. I get energy crashes typically. I don't get the rush, everybody says, oh, you get an energy rush and a crash. I don't get that. I just eat it and then I get a crash afterwards

where I want to fall asleep. And so I don't feel very good on them, so I tend to avoid them because of that. And you should too. Anything that makes you feel that way, I don't care what the food is. You should also avoid. But here's the big problem.

Those simple carbs tend to come in the form of heavily processed foods, and those foods tend to make you want to eat more. And so if you eat a lot of white bread, it's probably you're probably gonna eat more calories overall than if you ate sweet potato or oatmeal or something like that. So that's why I would say to avoid those types of foods.

Yeah, I mean, there's some positive size to it. I happen to be in the camp with somebody, when I was, especially when I was competing, I eat a lot less of it now. But when I was chasing calories and I needed more calories, it was hard for me to hit the caloric intake. And I was really getting after my workouts. I mean, some of my best workouts were after some of these carbs. I mean I really would. I would load up on some pasta or something

two hours before and I'd have some of the most epic training sessions. So I think the advice that you give about really trying to evaluate yourself and pay attention to how they make you feel. Some people may perform extremely well on them. If you're somebody who performs extremely well on them, you don't notice below it from them. You don't have a major crash like Sal, and you can manage the calories. They're great. There's nothing wrong with them, especially if you don't have any adverse effects to them. But they also seem to, this is where a lot of people end up having some sort of an intolerance to them.

You get some people that have like you, Sal, who crash afterwards, they are tend to be a lot higher in calories, so it's hard to manage calories that way. So there are, those are some of the drawbacks of that. So you just have to, you have to ask yourself, like are you somebody who can have these things and manage your calories

and you get great workouts and you feel fine from them? Or are you not? It's an individual experience. Absolutely. And that's what we're always trying to stick with that. Because yeah, for me, I have noticed with most, a lot of my clients, it's been a similar pattern in terms of some of these types of carbs have created like intolerances and inflammatory experiences where they get like signals from their body that you know have adverse sort of reaction to these types of foods, but that's not everybody. So it's not like a blanket statement of like avoid these and you know in terms of like

we just get so general with it because we try and steer people towards healthier habits, but you really have to assess at the end of the day whether or not this is good, or not a good option for you, specifically you. There's this splitting hair stuff too with these types of cards too that tend to happen a little bit. Eat this one, post workout, and this one before you work out, and this one at night,

and this one, I think there's a lot of splitting hairs with that kind of stuff, and a lot of people in our space put more importance on that than I think needs to be done. I see guys doing like the gummy bears and pixie sticks post workout because it replenishes their glycogen source. Yeah, faster and so now they have an excuse to eat gummy bears and this is, you know, and really what percent impact is that having on your physique? Like none.

Yeah, 0.1 or none, probably nothing. So, I think, when we're looking at these types of things, examine how does it make you feel? Is it healthier for you? Is it going to make you want to overeat? Those are the most important things. And then once you base it off of that, what you'll end up finding is,

most people probably will avoid a lot of those types of foods because in my experience, that covers a lot of those types of foods because in my experience that covers a lot of people, there's not too many people that have encountered where eating those types of foods makes them feel good and they've got good health from them. It's not as common. Next question is from healthy, happy, and free.

Do you think someone who has suffered from an eating disorder should compete in bodybuilding? No, terrible idea. Terbuilding. No, terrible idea. Terrible, terrible, terrible idea. I'll tell you what, if you don't have a eating disorder, it's like an alcoholic entering a drinking contest. Yeah, that's definitely not a good idea. But don't you feel like this is pretty common place,

like a lot of you don't realize maybe that they have an eating disorder, but they're compelled to want to present their physique on their face. Well, think about it this way, okay. Here's a sport, but they're like compelled to want to like present their physique on a date. Well, think about it this way. Okay. Here's a sport. And we're going to embody, when we say bodybuilding, this covers bikini, this covers physique competitors. This may even cover other types of events or sports where you're presenting your physical self, maybe even pageants. Okay. So here we are, we're in a sport where you're being judged almost or entirely based off of how you look.

So that's number one. You're going on a stage and getting judged against other people and how they look. That's number two. The requirements to do well in these kind of competitions are extreme in their diets. They're extreme in the sense that in order for you to achieve that kind of a look,

you have to, and for all intents and purposes, have at least a 12 or 14 week period of disordered eating. Okay, that's literally what it is. For all intents and purposes, if you're a look at the way people ate pre-contest, most psychologists will look at and be like, that's disordered eating. You're eating the same food every single day, you're cutting your calories super, super low, you're watching yourself in the mirror every day,

you're weighing yourself, you're taking your body fat, you're obsessing about your body. That does not sound like an environment for somebody who just recovered from an eating disorder, eating disorder, it would feed into it. Now, here's the truth. A lot of people with disordered eating and body image issues, it attracts them. Yeah.

It seems to attract them. 100%. And I think it's because it gives them a reason and a purpose for the way that they obsess about their body. It makes them, it can make you feel better. Like, I'm so obsessed about my body, let me compete and get validated. 100% for it type of disease. It justifies it makes them, it can make you feel better. Like I'm so obsessed about my body, let me compete and get validated for it type of. It justifies it.

Yeah, exactly. No, just the same way that an alcoholic that enters a drinking contest. I'm a champion. I'm doing it because it's a contest, not because of an alcoholic. Like no, you have a fucking problem. I'm good at this.

Yeah, you have a fucking problem and that's not a good idea. No, I mean, I think it's a, I think it's a borderline dangerous place for the average person, no eating disorder. Just a normal person who sees it and thinks it's a good idea. It's just, it's not a good idea for most people. It's a, and this is where, and I know there's a lot of people

in our space that, you know, it's not a sport, because there's not a ball involved and we're not scoring points, right? But absolutely, it's not a sport, because there's not a ball involved and we're not scoring points, right? But absolutely, it's an extreme sport. You do extreme things that are not ideal and healthy for the body, like any other sport. You know, that's what defines really a sport is it's not something no sport is healthy for your body. Doing anything repetitive or at extreme levels isn't ideal for longevity and health. So it's definitely

already a dangerous or extreme thing for a person that has got a good relationship with food. It could take somebody who has a good relationship with food and give them a eating disorder. So somebody who's already in that place or been in that place? No, it's definitely not a place that they should be in whatsoever. And I don't see anything good coming out of putting themself through that. No, I'd say if you're super self-aware and very secure with who you are, then you can compete. And then you might be OK. Otherwise, what a terrible, then you can compete, and then you might be okay.

Otherwise, what a terrible, I mean, again, you are think of all the value and importance that are placing solely on how you look. There isn't even any performance component, so they didn't even care how strong you are, and you're like, that, it's all about how you look. It's no wonder that, you know, calf and plants and oil injections,

which aren't even an anabolic steroids, they're not even building muscle, you're just injecting oil in your muscles to make them look rounder. It's no wonder that is permeated into the sport of body building. It's all the values about how you look, none of is on anything else.

And when you place that, when you're already obsessed, your body obsessed to train six days a week and whatever, then on top of it, people are gonna tell you that, that's a good thing. You look great, here's your money, this is what it's all about, or whatever, here's your trophy. Boy, what do they call that? A loop of negative feedback.

No, positive feedback loop. It's like putting a speaker in front of a microphone, You get that loud sound. Yeah, it's like bad You know body obsession. Yeah, gonna enter into a sport where everybody's obsessed with body boy that'll blow it up I feel like Instagram has just perpetuated this too like it's We're in there in this time where it just seems to be extremely popular both guys and girls This time where it just seems to be extremely popular, both guys and girls, if you're at all into fitness and you're into Instagram and you want to gain followers, whether it be for popularity reasons or to try and build a business, it just seems like the go-to move. People follow people that have good physics and they look like they want to look.

So, me getting on stage and competing and getting myself at a look that all these people desire is going to gain a bunch of followers and then I'm going to build a business. I'm going to make all this money. And I just think that there's a false perception around that that people don't realize. I think that we're in this world. We think that, oh, someone has 50,000 followers.

So they must have a like a serious successful business, especially when those people are presenting themselves as super successful in reality a lot of them really are not. Next question is from Grave Show. If you guys could pick one fitness influencer or personality that you would have shut up and go away forever, who would it be and why? And Jillian Michaels doesn't count.

Oh man, why? I was going to pick her. I can't think, I'm trying to think off the top of my head. The ones that bother me the most are just the insta celebrities that are the good looking guy or girl that is just promoting terrible products and terrible exercise and nutrition advice. It's super, super frustrating. The Kardashians get on my nerves for this in the past. They're not really promoted.

With the screams in the past. And certain diet practices that are absolutely terrible, but a lot of celebrities do it. They're not the only ones. They're just super, super influential. You know, as much as I would love to shut them up and make them go away forever, another one will pop up in their place,

and that's because we keep giving them attention. You know what I mean? It's like, they wouldn't exist if we ignored them. Like if we just ignored them, we looked at them and said, well, that's stupid. I'm not gonna do that or whatever. They wouldn't exist. It's us, man.

You know, the market is a funny thing, and sometimes we get frustrated with it, but it's a reflection, it's a mirror. You know, the market is a funny thing, and sometimes we get frustrated with it, but it's a reflection, it's a mirror. You know, it's a mirror into us. It's like when people complain about, you know, why is there a liquor store on the corner of every street here, or why are there all these, you know,

whatever gun stores, or whatever store that they disagree with? And I think it's like, hey, man, it's like, because people give them money. Yeah. You know what I mean? And it's not as easy as just shutting them down. It's our fault, Dean of the day.

Yeah, it's like at the end of the day, they exist because we make them exist. It's like, that's the terrible thing about it. Yeah, I would have picked Joey Schwol, but he literally like disappeared. Did he? Yeah, like I've been trying to find him. Maybe he blocked it.

Yeah, you're blocked. We're blocked. Is that what it is? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, dude, I'm like, where is this guy? He's hanging out with Dan Bilzerian. And what is he up to these days? Is he really? Yeah.

No, I think he's got some venture with him, I think. I think he's involved in the weed ignite thing or whatever his brand is that would ignite. Is that what the company knows? I can't remember the name. Well, that's the pivot brand. He's got transition, yeah. I don't know if I have a single individual that just, you know, it's tough. Here's why it's hard is I don't I don't know if I have a a single individual that just you know, it's tough

Here's why it's hard is I don't I don't really follow If someone really bothers me. Yeah, I don't I don't follow and pay him no attention But I do you know, you know, who really bothered me? I didn't like him and I know he's out there still doing stuff I didn't remember his handle remember the fucking guy that was and I know he's out there still doing stuff and I don't remember his handle. Remember the fucking guy that was the IIFM guy that was eating the crazy pizzas in the fruit-loved pizza?

Yeah, I mean, he had a massive following back that I imagine he's as big or bigger and I really despise that message as much as they try and position that on, trying to be counter to the people that demonize foods, I just know that the average client that saw that would see something like that would justify their eating behaviors and it would just send them down this spiral downward and they would never get out of it because they are being told by some asshole on Instagram that eating like this is completely okay as long as it fits your macros.

And I think it's just really, it teaches really bad habits and behaviors. It's when we know that we have, as a country, we have an overeating problem and these types of foods promote overeating and to flaunt that in front of them. It's just, and I use the analogy, it's like, you know, being at an AA meeting and standing in front of all these alcoholics while you're drinking a beer, talking to them about not drinking. You know, I can drink hell of beer.

Yeah, it's just, it's a bad message, and I think it does more harm than it does good. And so I wish most of those motherfuckers would disappear. And I know there's quite a few of them that have these pages. But again, man, it's like, they, they're for a reason. You know what I mean? We're following them and it's like, it's our human nature to want to control other people.

It's human nature to look at things and say, oh, get rid of this, it's bad. And let's just have this, it's good. And now everything's perfect. But there's enough people to support it. It's like, we have to change the heart and minds of the people, of the consumers. We can't force. Well, yeah, but of course minds of the people, of the consumers, we can't force.

Well, yeah, but of course, of course, though, so I'll put your, it's like a drug addict, though. I mean, food has to be the most, one of the most abused things out there. And so you, and of course, people are drawn to it because majority, that's the problem. That's why I don't like it because there's so many people following it

because 90% of them are food addicts. 90% of the people are over there with them and going like, yeah, that's right, it's okay, we can have these things. And it's just like a bunch of fucking co-heads being like, yeah, see you're doing that bad? You know, it's the same thing. It's just, it really, it's just food. But my point is, what would you do?

You wouldn't block, you wouldn't have Instagram shut him down or you wouldn't want to log against them. Well, of course Yeah, that's what I mean. It's like we're it's this weird position. It's like you look at it. You know it's fucked But the only way to get rid of it the only effective real way to get Yeah, the question is who will we pay to go away? I can imagine yeah go away. Yeah, that's it's something like that I mean, I wouldn't absolutely never want government to get involved and regulate who we can't it can't see.

I'm not for that whatsoever. But if we're playing a game where, okay, we can eliminate one person off the Instagram Earth. Like, who do you want to get rid of? I would get rid of some of these. Plus, I enjoy them for the content. Yeah, and this is great content to bring on the show. So, we can't really have them go in.

Otherwise, we got no enemies. I've seen a few recent articles too on some of these influencers getting exposed. Like there was this one girl who travels, she's like a travel page, and she'll post pictures of herself on these exotic locations, whatever. But it came out that most of them were photoshopped, they were totally fake.

Yeah, and awesome. Yeah, dude, and it's coming out more and more, and the backlash is now. Was that some of those vegans that were eating meat, caught eating meat? Did you see that one? Yeah. Or the girl was caught eating meat,

and then she, which she said was, that our doctor told her, she had meat because she had some nutrient deficiencies. But, I mean, she should have just been honest. Like, hey, everybody, but once you build a huge following, could you imagine that? Yeah. Like you create this religion.

She couldn't have come out and been like, oh, this is happening to me. They'd be like, shut up. Yeah. Well, now it's even worse though. It is. And then, you know, you're living a lie, which in my opinion, that, what you have to do more.

But that is worse. Yeah, I really, you know, it's, I don't have names to pick on people individually, but I really, I'm irritated by a lot of our own peers. Like I think sometimes in our space, we get, you know, we get so into this like dick measuring. Yes, it's who's more right? And we end up talking over 90% of everybody else.

Yeah. And we're really only speaking to each other and it turns into this battle of like, I'm more right than you are. And like the people that we're supposedly trying to help were fucking talking over all them. Like I was listening to somebody who I follow and I like and I respect.

And I'm listening to his Instagram and he's talking about exercise and just the depth that he is going into explaining and he's doing it to counter some information that's out there. And I'm like, you know what, this is not helping 90% of the people that are catching this.

All it's doing is over complicating something very simple. Like most people don't even need to hear that message. People are already confused. Right. We do this as fitness professionals a lot. We do. We get into this dick measuring competition of who's smarter, who understands the study better, who, and we're fighting over things that like don't really make that big of a difference in 99% of the population.

It's just ridiculous. And what we end up doing is losing more people than truly helping. And I wish a lot of that shit would go away. I wish that we would move on from that. And I think a lot of that is again, perpetuated in this Instagram world where we get famous or popular because we look a certain way. Now all of a sudden, we think we're experts on some shit or we read studies all day long.

And now because we read a bunch of studies, we think we're experts. It's like, man, when you actually get out there and you try to take all that information that you've read in all the books and you start trying to apply all that science to real life people, what you find out is a lot of that shit doesn't even apply. A lot of that bullshit doesn't even apply to a majority of the people. Why are we arguing this stupid small detail? It's because, especially in academia, this is really popular in academia,

they like to be right. They like to be more right, let's say, than the other guy. Right. And at the end of the day, it's like, well, okay, that's cool. What have you accomplished? Nothing.

You haven't really helped anybody. You know, we could sit down and talk about, you know, I could sit down and talk about amino acid profiles of food and bioavailability, and that wouldn't matter at fucking all to the average person. And it wouldn't, it doesn't make it, it's gonna tune you up.

And the knucklehead trainers that get under these people's posts and they, they raw behind them, you're not helping the cause. It's always all these newbie trainers that identify with one of these fitness celebrities. And they're like, yeah, that's right. You should eat this way or yeah, see the other guy's so wrong. And they're like, yeah, that's right. You should eat this way. Or, yeah, see, the other guy's so wrong.

And we get into these camps. It's like, man, you guys are only making it worse because then you're validating this knucklehead who's literally only speaking to you fucking hundred people, you hundred trainers that understand the information he's even providing. And he's just gonna keep pushing. You know what they need to do?

You know what it is? Is they need to, and this is a problem with any space, is when you're around in a particular group of people, that becomes your normal. And so if all you ever do is talk to your other super educated trainers and whatever, then you forget that you're not communicating to the average person.

So one of the reasons why we do those live events, is because if I hang around with you guys too long, then we start to elevate shit to a level of people stop understanding, because obviously we're doing this for a long time. You go talk to the average person, I should say, and then you start to bring, it grounds you, it brings you down and reminds you,

like, oh yeah, we need to communicate this stuff. This is the most important stuff. So anyway, with that, go mindpumpfreed.com and download all of our guides. You can also find us all on Instagram. You can find Justin at Mind Pump Justin. You can find me at Mind Pump Sal and Adam at Mind Pump Adam. Thank you for listening to Mind Pump.

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