Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1129: Using Intermittent Fasting to Lose Weight, the Ultimate 30 Minute Per Week Workout, the Safety of Melatonin & MORE

Episode Date: September 28, 2019

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about creating an efficient 30-minute workout when only training a client once a week, whether Intermittent Fasting is ever a good idea when wanting to lose weight, whether melatonin is a safe supplement to cycle on and off, and the “it” factor to be a personal trainer. Mind Pump’s favorite cereals from their childhood. (4:25) Adam visits the beach once again...Highlighting the need to get out of the city. (8:36) The performance-enhancing effects of CLA (Conjugated Linoleic Acid) to burn body fat. (15:10) The nutrient differences between grass-fed/grain-fed meat. (19:02) What food do the guys find is bigger than their stomachs? (23:10) The new Biggest Loser trainers, the connection to Mind Pump, would the guys have taken the job in their 20s & MORE. (26:45) Hacking the system, the popularity and crazy world of the ‘Sugar Baby’ apps. (36:08) FBI arrests man for bombing ex’s house with a drone. (42:01) #Quah question #1 – How would you create an efficient 30-minute workout when training a client once a week? (44:58) #Quah question #2 – Is Intermittent Fasting ever a good idea when wanting to lose weight? (52:26) #Quah question #3 – If all other better ways to sleep result in no luck, is melatonin a safe supplement to cycle on and off? (1:00:40) #Quah question #4 – What would each of you say is the “it” factor to be a personal trainer? (1:08:01) People Mentioned Erica ⬇️ 150 Lbs SW: 322 Lbs (@ericafitlove)  Instagram Ben Zorn C.S.C.S. (@benzornlife)  Instagram Jordan Peterson (@jordan.b.peterson)  Instagram   Related Links/Products Mentioned September Promotion: MAPS Starter ½ off!! **Code “STARTER50” at checkout** Visit Butcher Box for this month’s exclusive Mind Pump offer! Can CLA (Conjugated Linoleic Acid) Help You Lose Weight? Meet the New Biggest Loser Trainers — Including One Who Lost 160 Lbs. Herself! Dating Website Names Fastest Growing ‘Sugar Baby’ Schools In America; Florida Has 3 In Top 5 FBI Arrests Man For Bombing Ex’s House With a Drone Mind Pump 1052: Why Fasting May Be Making You Fat Fasting is a Terrible Way to Lose Weight - Mind Pump Media Are You Fasting Properly?? (QUAH #12) | MIND PUMP Visit ChiliPad for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code “MPOOLER” at checkout** Mind Pump Free Resources

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That's it. So here's what we talked about for the first 41 minutes, which is the intro portion of this episode. We start out by talking about breakfast cereals, our favorite breakfast cereals, the ones we were kids, and the ones that made Justin fat. Hey, nothing. That's real. Then we talked about, then we talked about Adam's trip to the beach again. I think that's like the seventh time you got to the beach. You're a beach bone. I think that's like the seventh time you've got to the beach. Beach bone, I guess. I'm broke now. Then we talked about the differences between grass-fed meat and grain-fed meat,

the fatty acid difference, conjugated linoleic acid much higher in grass-fed meat, and that has performance enhancing and fat loss. Benefits, in fact, a lot of people's supplement was CLA. Now, our favorite source of grass fed meat is butcher box. Now butcher box delivers grass fed meats to your door. Oh, and by the way, right now, if you sign up for butcher box delivery, you get ground beef forever for life.

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Oh, and also you get $20 off your first box. I think they're just giving it away. Then I talked about how my eyes are bigger than my stomach when I eat sushi every single time. We talk about the biggest losers, new trainers. Congratulations to Erica Fitlove, our friend. We do. We talk about the biggest losers, new trainers. Congratulations to Erica Fitlove, our friend. We talked about sugar babies. Apparently, that's a new profession. That Doug is gonna be looking to. If they were just signed up. And then we talked about the guy who used the drone to drop bombs on his ex-girlfriend.

Oh my god. That's it. Just ruined it for everybody. That's a common idea we've all had, isn't it? Then we get the fitness portion of this episode. The first question, how can you create an efficient 30 minute workout when you're training a client only once a week? Is it possible if so, what's that look like? Next question is fasting, a good idea when you're trying to lose weight. Back in the day, we called that not eating. Yeah. The next question, if all other attempts to aid

in better sleep result in no luck, how about melatonin? Is it safe? What if you cycle it on and off? And the final question, what would each of us say is the it factor to become a successful personal trainer? Yeah, it'd be sexy, so. Also, 72, you know what that number represents, Justin?

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the, I never walked through the cereal aisle. You guys are watching, walked through the cereal aisle? Just to pay attention. Of course. Am I supposed to be a part of this? You're on this conversation. Okay, cereal aisle, yes, I'm with you. I, when's the last time you had like a,

like one of the classic terrible kids cereal? It's been a while, yeah, long time. It's been a while. I would think for you guys, because you have kids that did something. I don't buy those ones. Really? I watch them, like,

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Yeah, early trainer years, I was big serial. That's in fact, that's how I got my carbs. I did weird shit too, like scoop my way protein in my milk in my cereal and like eat cereal like that. Like I do. Now it's a bodybuilding meal. Yeah, it's totally. Justified. What were your favorites when you were kids?

I like lucky charms a lot. I like the best parts of the marshmallow, fruity pebbles, capped in crunch. Those are probably my triple threat right there. Yeah, I like fruity pebbles a capped in crunch, those are probably my triple threat right there. Yeah, I liked fruity pebbles a lot. Captain Crunch ruins the roof of your mouth. It ruins your whole face.

Problem with fruity pebbles is it's gone in two bowls. Yeah. I would actually, you guys, cocoa pebbles, dude. Then you got choco milks. It's cocoa pebbles magical. What about, I can't believe you guys didn't say pops.

You guys don't like, I like pops, all right. Really? Yeah, it was all right. I say pops. You guys don't like a. Oh, yeah. Popps is all right. Really? Yeah, it was all right. I love pops. Golden grams. Golden grams. And CTC.

Yep. Cinnamon toast. The truth is, it doesn't get better. That's my crack. That one right there was just, that was almost, it's too much. It is like on another dimension. I felt like when I was eating it that dude would pop out, you know, the guy with the mustache and come out and be like diabetes.

You know what I'm talking about? The guy in the commercial? Yeah, pretty much. You know what know, the guy with the mustache and come out and be like diabetes. You know what I'm talking about? The guy in the commercial? Yeah, pretty much. You know what though, the truth is, I don't think I've had any of those. Now that I think about it, I had all the knockoff. Oh man.

You had the multiple meals. Yeah, I haven't lived unless you've had CTC, bro. I had all the, You had the multiple meals, the ones that came into plastic bags. Yes, the big tall plastic bags. No branding on it. Oh yeah.

Yeah, a little poor man. Like mom, I want frudios instead of fru- Mom, I want lucky charms, no branding on it. Oh yeah. Oh poor man. Like mom, I want- Fruit videos instead of fruit- Mom, I want Lucky Charms out marshmallow mateys. Marshmallow mateys. That's what it's called. I think you're right, dude. Yeah, I saw those.

Now my favorite cereal, I'll tell you what my favorite was, was Smacks. Remember the one with the frog on it? Oh yeah. Honey Smacks. Honey Smacks. Now not because it tasted the best, but because it was a never, it was my favorite way to fuck with my. Now not because it tasted the best, but because

it was never, it was my favorite way to fuck all my siblings, because I would always do this, right? I'd open the cupboard, be like, hey, to my brother, hey Joe, you want some smacks? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, it's every morning. They're asking for it. I never got old. It's like my favorite joke, the capital of Thailand. No, you don't know. Bangkok. BOOM. What do you, what do you, on the floor? Yeah, what do you call if your truck breaks down? I don't know.

Toe truck. Gah, stomp on the foot. But the smacks was the best because I'd have the box and I'd walk around. And my brother had his cousin, we had our cousins over, but they were all at his age. So I was like, the younger generation, right? So I'm trying to think right now, my brother's eight years younger than me. He's eight years younger than you I didn't know that.

No, uh, no, I didn't realize he was that much younger. Six years younger than me. So I would be, you know, I'm 12 right and he's six so he'd be there with my little cousins in there. I'd slap this three year old around. No, I'd have the box. I'd have the box you know and I'd be like, hey, anybody wants a smack? So raise your hand and I do this on purpose. It's just tiring because I have my other cousin there who's my age, right? So we're both 12 and so we would like watch this is gonna be funny So I'd walk in the room. They're playing video games, you know, I'd walk in and I'd hold the box

I'm like, anybody raise your hand if you want smacks and they raise your hand. I'd be like, all right Keep your hand up if you want a lot of smacks and they raise your hand. They're like, all right, keep your hand up if you want a lot of smacks. Thank you. Oh, my God. What a bunch of tyrants. Just pure assholes. Just mean. Yeah, you know, right?

So I was surprised yesterday because I was on Instagram. I'm scrolling through. And I try to keep up with my best favorite Instagram pages like Justin Page and Adam's page. And I go on Adam's. Adam's not your favorite page. One of my favorites supporting you. And I go on Adam's story and I'm like, what the fuck is he at?

Does it have to work? Is that the beach? Oh yeah, I know, right? What happened? This is my wife who thinks that we're rich all a sudden, just fucking hey, on a whim, we're going to the fucking beach house like on, on a, on a Wednesday night or whatever. I'm like, what is this, dude? So, but I mean, in her defense, it's been really hot at our place. We already did this. And I guess I started it, right? I did

it like two weeks ago. I did it. But it was a Friday night, you know, we had no plans that we came in. That's a one off thing, right? Yeah, yeah, you know, this is all all the time now. Yeah, and so, you know, I think I, maybe that's what it is, is I was just like, let's go and we packed up and we went to the beach

for two days and stayed at our favorite spot. Or one of our favorite spots. So, I get home from work and I get a text like we're at the beach. And I'm like, what? She's like, yeah, I got a place for me and your sister over there. And I'm like, what are you kidding me? Like that's what it's a Wednesday night. So ladies know what?

This is a big while. She's not working right now. Like, you know what? This is so cool because I rented a fucking place in the beach tonight. I might need those tickets to come. Oh, my tonight. I might let's take us to combo. This is gonna turn into a ranch. Justin has so much. You know what's funny?

I started a new standard too because we've been traveling and this and that and so Courtney like well she went down to San Diego and now she's going to Cabo and then there's gonna be a fall-up and pumped desert and I'm like, Oh, whoa, whoa, yeah, pump the brakes Pump the brakes. I would say let's stay home. This highlights the difference between men and women, right? Because like the you'll never get a better reaction than when you're your wife or whatever your girl comes home You're like I know it's Wednesday, but we're going to the beach. Oh my god. I love you. Thank you. Totally different right for a guy Come home. We're going to the beach. Fuck man. I want to watch watch TV Are you serious? Yeah, I wanted I didn't want to go anywhere

I had all these things I was gonna Now I gotta go was it with a nice over there at least? Oh no it was it was epic and in her defense It was I'm glad she did and it was it's but it was beautiful over there and we were writing content last night And you were drinking rosé. Yeah He was so fancy. That's in the room. You know what I'm saying? It's so pretty. It's not like I brought my rosé or some shit.

It's like in the room. I'm like, oh, this is nice. They have rosé. It's five o'clock somewhere. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Rosé, all day.

Yeah. So that was a glass of wine while I sat there and, you know, wrote stuff for the newsletter that we have coming up and should. I thought that was and with waves crashing, it was probably a nice 78 degrees out there. sat there and wrote stuff for the newsletter that we have coming up and should. I thought that was, and with waves crashing, it was probably a nice 78 degrees out there. It was, nah, it was beautiful. Oh, the road.

Yeah, you could do that more often. If you just, you know, look in that direction for now. We're sounding more and more like just older people. Tell me, you guys. Get away from the city. The city's overrated. I'll tell you what though, Justin, this morning, so why I was like telling her,

you're crazy, like I have to work tomorrow and she's like, it's not that bad of a drive, you know that and I'm like, all right, well, I'll tell you what, you're right. I don't have to leave till seven, seven's not like crazy early or anything. So I'm like, all right, I'll come out and then I'll spend the night and then I'll drive in the morning

and actually was a great drive in the morning. I mean, the most is like hour, hour and some change. It took me an hour and 15. And it was the same, because I mean, I live with my in-laws for a bit, in Al Maden, and it took me an hour and hour and 20 minutes to just get the Campbell from Al Maden. So that was the frustrating part was,

I'm sure the majority of the traffic was once you got close. All of it was. There was zero traffic getting all the way to Morgan Hill. I had no traffic and I was like, oh, shit, this is like, it was nice. I swung into Starbucks, got my cup zero and I'm driving. I'm listening to my favorite podcast, Mind Pump. And I'm drinking my coffee and just enjoying waking up slowly.

You're really drinking the cool. You're doing a Mind Pump commercial? Yeah, on Mind Pump. I can wear a GANIFI Pure just down the hatch. Yeah. slowly you're really drinking the cool it you're doing a mind pump commercial on mind pump or gain if I pure just down the hatch life is good tune on my butcher box steak on the fresh in the morning on the way there delicious what do you guys do for dinner when you're out there do you go out to dinner do you just you cook they they have a really nice restaurant there so last night I actually had this I had lamb head lamb my favorite.

Lamb and quinoa. Yeah, on the resort, there is a place called the, it's called the salty crab, I think, or something, chili, that, something like that. Really good restaurant and it serves to the rooms. But they actually, now it's great, man. And I find this more and more places I travel to. If I wanted to, I could door dash anything

within 15 minutes too. So we kinda do that. And when I go there, when we take off for a day or two like that, I mean, I told you guys share it the other day, like, you know, one night sometimes we'll do candy or some shit. You know, when I'm there, I'm not competing right now.

So I'm not counting calories. I'm not worried about what we're doing. I do try and stay mindful though. You know, something that I'm not competing right now, so I'm not counting calories. I'm not worried about what we're doing. I do try and stay mindful though. You know, something that I'm really, I've tried to practice in the last, you know, a couple of years, I would say I've gotten much better at this is, and I don't know if this comes from childhood shit of, of, I definitely have a tendency to binge purge type of personality. I, I, I, well, we've made, no, not perched. Yeah, I mean, a bench, a bench restrict. Yeah, bench restricts.

I have to fix you there. Yeah. I guess, hold on. I'm believing by the conversation. Yes, of the way. Yes, of the way. No, that's not a good thing. So, I have a tendency to do really well or a strict

and then when I decide, oh, I'm gonna let loose, I let loose. And I'm trying to get away from that and be more like, yeah, if I feel like a glass of, like I had, you know, two small glasses of wine. Like I didn't need to have the whole bottle to myself. You know, if I, like I told you, it's a day away. You're pretty lightweight with alcohol though.

You feel that? Yeah, I'm like you. Yeah, that's enough for me. Because I don't drink. You know, on a real or a base. I've drank more with you guys in the last fucking. Same. Yeah, three years. Same here. It's probably my influence. It's just it. You know, on a real or base, I've drank more with you guys in the last fucking same.

Yeah. Three years. And I probably have my influence. It's just it. You know, be honest. It is. Just the professional. Well, we influenced him on the marijuana side.

Yeah, there you go. So, yeah, instead of influencing each other out in a good way, we just took on each other's bad habits. You have to say, I a lot more aware of things in my stomach now, things to use out. I think you guys both got my gut microbiome. Yeah. You both now have stomach problems. You transfer it over.

Yeah. But I love lamb. Lamb is my hands down. It's my favorite type of meat. Absolutely. Is it really? Absolutely. I grew up with it.

I mean, my dad, we ate beef all so, we ate all meat, right? But when my dad would grill, he was known for grilling up lamb. That's what we do. I mean, I think a tie-ins eat a lot of lamb or Mediterranean, cultures eat a lot of lamb. And it's just, I love the taste of it.

It's got a nice, fatty, you have to cook it properly, right? I think a lot of people are, if they haven't prepared wrong or overcooked and it's got that gamey taste to it. Do you do mainly skewers or chops with it or? So all of it, all of the above. Yeah, all of the above. So I love lamb chops, of course.

That's the lollipop of meat or whatever. But we do it all. And the way my dad would prepare it is he would bread it and then grill it. Or my mom would season it a little bit and then we grill it. Yeah. And lamb has got really, really nice fatty acid profile. There's a fatty acid and lamb called conjugated linoleic acid, CLA.

Have you guys remember the supplements, CLA? Yeah, I've never remember that. So, studies show, now there was some, a lot of misinformation around CLA. It was sold as a fat loss supplement, which is stupid. It's a, you're taking capsules of fat. This will make me lose weight. It doesn't work that way.

But what studies showed was that if people switched out their current fat and included more CLA, so the calories would stay the same, but they would increase their intake of CLA. So their fatty acid profile change, that's all they did. Same amount of fat. That they would have fat loss. That the body would burn body fat. And there were performance-enhancing benefits from this. Is that the theory that metabolizes faster? Is that why? The way that it's utilized in the body is different.

I don't know all the details. I'd have to touch up a little bit on the science of it. But CLA is a fat that has performance enhancing effects. Not unlike medium chain triglycerides, MCTs are like this too. Like if you switch out your other type of fatty acids for MCTs, you'll also get leaner. But CLA's got the dual benefit of some studies show, a little bit of a muscle building effect. And so for a while there in the 90s, I believe it was

a late 90s early 2000s, CLA was a popular body building supplement. I believe EAS even sold it as well. It was part of the Irgigen stack at 24. It was, right? CLA, DHA, Mathoxybolic. I remember the whole stack, bro. It was a $800 stack. He's a sell to everybody. That's when we believed everything in the dollar. Yeah, dude.

But CLA is interesting because it's got those, those, those properties. Is that amazing we used to sell $800 with a supplement? That is. I feel like it's such a piece of shit. Such a hustle. Some, but some kid know, you better, some kid coming in wanting to build muscle.

And I convinced them spending $800 when we eat all of this, all these pills. I said the same thing. That was back when, too, when they had the creatine pills that were like horse pills. Yep. We needed to take ten of them. So you had to take, what to take this part back.

They weren't, they weren't, they weren't capsules. They were tablets. Yeah, they were massive. Big, they were almost, they weren had to take what to take this part. They were not was a chore they weren't capsules. They were tablets. Yeah, they were massive big. They were almost they weren't only take one in at a time. So you'd like take 10 goaps of water and we're still choked. Yeah, and they weren't though. They were huge. They weren't as big as the amino acid ones.

I used to take back in the day. I used to take amino acid pills, which I told you guys. Yeah, it's so funny. They were basically pressed way protein or whatever. Or whatever. But they were like the size of like a wafer. It was like a big block.

And I remember looking at this thing like, how am I gonna, so you guys ever see me take supplements? How I can take a huge handful and just swallow. That's how I learn how to do it. I learn how to like open my throat. Relax it. I mean, that comes in handy for you.

Other things. I have them saying, let's really talk about where that started. Yeah. I stopped. Show me on the mic. I'm like, I'm injured. Oh, you know what?

Oh, you know what? Oh, you know what? Oh, you're speaking of professional stuff. Speaking of CLA, things not to brag about. A couple of things to get hashtag. A couple of drugs to get. Speaking of CLA, do you know what else has a higher amount of CLA? Tell me so.

Grass fed beef. Ah! So, there are differences between, because there's a little bit of a debate, right? I saw your story yesterday. Yeah, like, grain fed beef versus grass fed beef. Like, what are the differences? Well, first and foremost, it's important, and this is important, I think, for a lot of people to understand.

One of the differences between grass fed beef and grain fed beef is just the way that they're raised so if you Want your if you want animals to be raised more humanely Grass fed meat is allowed to roam They're not treated the same way. They live more of a I guess natural life Whereas the corn-based kind of the corn-based grain fed beef kept in these feed lots. They're not allowed to move as much. It's just not as humane.

It's more humane across the board. But besides that, there are some nutrient differences. Now, they're not major, huge nutrient differences, but they're big enough to where, if you're like me, I eat red meat at least three or four days a week, at least sometimes five, six days a week, I eat red meat. If you're gonna eat that much red meat, then it does make sense to choose a red meat that is higher in key nutrients like vitamin E, vitamin D, the B vitamins, potassium, and higher in omega-3 fatty acids. Grass-fed meat is something like two to four times higher

in the omega-3 fatty acids that we know are kind of anti-inflammatory, whereas grain-fed meat is more inflammatory, it just is. And then CLA, I just talked about CLA. You know, much more CLA, grass-fed meat has than grain-fed? How much? Five times more. Oh, wow it does

That's a dresser. Now, I don't know if you guys have noticed this because I've experimented with this I've experimented having very very large amounts of grain fed meat and how I feel I'll track it I'll write it down versus Having large amounts of grass fed meat and how I feel and here's the difference I noticed it's easier to digest when it's grass-fed and I notice less, almost like inflammatory type symptoms. I'm less inflamed. So I think it's because the fatty acid profile is bigger. But again, if you're gonna eat that much meat, if you eat a lot of red meat, it makes sense to go grass-fed. If it's here or there, I don't think it makes that big of a difference.

Yeah, totally. Last night, I mean, I've been on this push to bring in organ meats because it Courtney and I both avoided it because it's just, it's not like the most pleasant, you know, idea of, you know, incorporating that into your dinners and your lunches and whatnot. So we did, you know, what you talked about before in terms of like getting a heart and then grinding that up with the, you did that? Yeah. We haven't done that yet. With the ground beef and I made burgers out of it last night. Yes, you take a... And the kids didn't even notice it. Nope, it was so great. No, you mix in like, you take like an ounce of it

and mix it in with like a half a pound or something of red meat and you... Because here's the other thing, organ meats are so nutrient dense. Yes. You're not gonna give your kid liver every day because you'll actually get too much, they'll get too many nutrients. They can actually over do it So you mix a little bit in with ground with ground meat. You can't taste it at all, right? Yeah, not at all. So how much did you do like one heart per?

You know what the what the ratio was it was just one heart that yeah for it was like five burgers I made out of that so yeah, just I split it just evenly to all of them now What's cool about the organs is each one of them is higher in, like the heart has particular nutrients that it's higher in versus the kidneys versus the liver versus the brain. I've never had brain, have you guys ever had cow brain? No, yeah, no. I've never done that.

I've had cow tongue though, that was interesting. Yeah, you can get that at some pretty decent Mexican restaurant. Yeah, the whole of the wall ones are great. Have you ever it tastes. I really like it, but I've decided to give it a try anyway. You don't like tasting something. It's a little grizzly, you know, for me. Yeah, it's a. We're both tasting each other. Have you guys have you guys found that there's a certain thing suggested. Yeah. Have you guys found that there's a certain thing suggested. Yeah. You see, yeah. Have you guys found that? Not an obvious. That there's a certain type of food that you tend to have, you know the term, my eyes are bigger than my stomach.

Yeah. Is there a certain type of food that you're more prone to that than others? Because I've identified one for me. What's that? Sushi. Oh, I would be one for you. I don't know.

I almost, I do that all the time. I order way too many rolls and then I never finish them all. I know, right? Yeah. I don't know, I almost, I do that all the time. I order way too many rolls and then I never finish them all. I know, right? Yeah. I don't do that with any else. Because you know why? It sucks when you under order. Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? When I get, so I have like this, I always get, depending on because every place serves whether it's four or six, a 12 or 10, you know, I get 10 to 12 pieces of salmon sashimi. That's like my first thing and then I get two rolls 12 pieces of salmon sashimi. That's like my first thing, and then I get two rolls, whatever I want. And I rarely ever do I finish,

and I knock out the salmon first, and then I enjoy the rolls afterwards, and I typically always leave one or two. But then I get mad if I only do like one, and then I finish, and I'm like, oh, I could have easily had another roll. So, I think it's, what is it about sushi? Because I don't do that with anything else. finish and I'm like, oh, could I easily had another role? So it's, I think it's, what is it about sushi?

Because I don't do that with anything else. Like I order a steak, I eat the whole damn thing. I know what I want to eat and I eat it. With sushi, I always fucking do that. Well, it's because you get a role is what? Normally five to eight pieces, depending on how big it is. And that's a lot.

That could be a meal for the person. So for you, you're probably like, one less role is not enough for you. And it's so it's kind of hard to be right at the right amount, right? I think for me, maybe it's because I think I'm not getting enough, maybe I'm thinking I need more rolls to get more protein. So I'm like, I need at least three rolls. Oh, you don't say shading a fact to like protein.

You kind of know like that's my limit. So do you not do any negiri or any shishimi with it? Well, sometimes I do, but not last night. Yesterday, I just had a bunch of rolls. I'll never just have rolls because you don't get shit for protein. Yeah, yeah, that's the fucking bodybuilder in me. Like that was like a staple meal every week

when I was competing with sushi, but I train myself to always have either teriyaki chicken first or have the salmon shishimi first so I get a solid six to eight ounces of meat. And then I enjoy the rolls because you're just getting carbs. Yeah. I mean, it's all sauce and rice, you know, it's like the most part. You get like a fucking little nibble of these.

You know, I'm laughing right now because because every time we go out to eat with, you know, mind pump, Adam and I are always trying to convince everybody to get sushi because we love sushi and of course Doug Doug we love sushi too and Justin's you know fucking one chicken nuggets and you know Cippy cup. Yeah, so we're always like try to like we're trying to convince him like come on man No, these good rolls are so I don't remember where we were They were in Tahoe you made me eat the shiniest like sushi. There was it was it was terrible So that's why you're fired cuz that was a year to convince me remember that so we were all we were in Tahoe and we were Trying to convince Justin like a truck trucky or something was it yeah We're like no, no, it's a talk. No, it's time. And we're like we're gonna get we're gonna get sushi

Justin you gonna try it trust me. You'll like it and just oh you terrible Yeah, and just super agreeable, so he's like okay. I'll give it a shot So I'm like yes, he's gonna love it and then we're gonna eat sushi from now on yeah, but we picked the worst fucking sushi in the world Well like I'm not gonna be a big baby about it. It's just not like on my yeah I love it. Let's go. Tahoe's just not a great place for sushi. Yeah, that's yeah Yeah, I'm like I want to go. Tahoe's just not a great place for sushi. Yeah, that's a really good place. Yeah, yeah. Not a whole ocean of those. Inny seafood, yeah.

I'm like, I want to be on the wharf if I'm eating seafood. I want to catch it myself. Like, that's the best. No, I'm with you on that. But we ruined our chances, because that was too sushi. It's a very small window. Yeah, it's like when you get your kid to finally try something you know, and then like, yeah.

I can't. And you blow it. Yeah, you guys see the new biggest loser trainers. Yeah. Oh, one of our friends. Yes. Erica, fit love. She's on there.

Very interesting. And then what's his name? Steep Cook. There you go. That's the other guy that's on there too. Well, I mean, what do you guys think the criteria is in terms of the trainers that they pick? Being good on camera. Yeah.

I think that's a hundred percent. That's pretty much it, right? Yeah, I think they's a hundred that's pretty much it right gotta be good actors on some you know some level Yeah, I think they're looking for like compelling story. I think I think they look for some very likable very likable Very hard. It's hard not to like Erica. No, she's one of the most likable people Right, I remember it's hard not to like Steve cook. I mean, there's there's people that hate I'm sure I'm both of them, but I mean, they're generally speaking, they're extremely likable people. It's squeaky clean, kinda, you know, like a, what's that guy that does all the,

like the countdowns for New Year's Eve? Oh, shit. You know what I'm saying, Ryan, secret, that kind of like, you know, yeah. Yeah, I'm America. Like, they kinda talk like that. I have no strong opinions. Yeah.

I, how would you guys approach, let's just say you're a trainer. Would you do it? How about that? Yeah, I'm a good question. Forget now. Now we're mind-pump or whatever, and it's easy to say that. Ah, yeah, of course. But, you know, six years ago, you know, you're working in fitness, you're building,

you're still building your business, you've been training for a long time. You know, biggest loser comes and be like, hey, we want to pay you, you know, million dollars. You're going to get famous. You're going to be after this, you're going to have total fitness authority. You know, you could pay that. Whatever. How much do you get paid, do you think? Not very much, but a few hundred grand.

I think it's, I think it's, no, not at all. I think maybe you're like, you're going to make a million dollars. I'm like, 30. If you're not a, if you're a train on the biggest loser and you don't turn that into making a million dollars, you're going to be a- Okay, well listen, here's it. But it's all in the contract. Look it, look it happened to our boy Ben so we're not exactly great

That's different though. It's yeah, it's bachelor But without totally different because if you're on the biggest loser It's totally different the pays that the probably the same no no no forget the pay of being on the biggest No, you're talking about the afterwards. Yeah, for you. Yeah, you become I mean, oh sure become a famous trainer your America's yeah person Yeah, you become, I mean, oh, sure. You become a famous trainer. You're America's, yeah, person. Yeah, exactly, yeah. But you still fucked that up though, bro. You totally, yeah.

If you don't have a good, if you don't have great systems in place and you haven't built the company to support the onslaught of people you're about to get, you may not make as much money as you think you're, there's my one and only kudos to Julian Michaels. She actually turned that into something. She did, she did.

She made a massive fun. And she's really hurt. Business out of it. Have you heard of any of the other trainers? Oh yeah. Name a name. Give me a name. Bob Harper.

Thank you. Okay, which was on the same season by the way. Yeah, exactly, that's the punctual season. So Bob, Bob and Julian Michaels, okay, they've had like, fucking 30 seasons or whatever, it's ridiculous how many seasons they had. So give me another trainer. No trainer. Give me another trainer.

Yeah, I don't know. It's like survivor. Do you know survivor is still going? Is it? Yeah, I didn't know. Crazy, right? They're like the fifth out of the system. Okay, my impump doesn't exist.

You're making 60 to 90 grand a year as a trainer working for a place. You get approached by biggest loser, Justin, Sal, do you take it? Um, no, really? Really? Really? You're a liar. You are a liar. You're a fucking liar. As much as I'm against it, bro, I would probably take it. I would, I would take it, but I would be like, uh, a rock star and, uh, no, no, I don't know. I don't think I would. Really? You're a liar. No, because I don't like you guys like a tension. I don't like it.

Oh god. You know what I mean? He flipped that pretty good though. No, he did put that good. You know what though? Here's the struggle that I would have. Here's the struggle. Good liar.

I know. He just asked. You want a lot of money? No. You know what? No. I don't like the attention. You want to keep working on 25 of it You know, you're, No. No, I don't like the attention. You want to keep working on 25th it is?

Yes. Yeah, yeah, I just want to stay in my box. Here's, here's what my struggle would be. Because when you're on that show, and this is my same challenge is, how do you maintain your integrity as a trainer by following those parameters? Because you're taking a bunch of severe obese.

I don't think you can. You can't. It's no way, right? Well, because if you did the right way, would you show? The show has become a competition. Okay, so there's people that are they've learned to hack the system They load up on carbs. They load up on water. The game wait going over there. Yeah, the game wait They know how to manipulate the scale so it's turn into it's turn into a game

It is a game the game to win a million dollars So and they want it to be emotional so they want people to cry right? You know, so they want you to yell at people and they want you to do all this stuff. It's like, that's all part of it. Yeah. So it would be challenging. But I tell you what, I would do it. But then I also would, it's just like I've ran boot camps before.

Right. And I don't agree with group training. You've heard the way I've talked about group training. So I would probably do it, but then I would speak out afterwards. So I was going to say, how do you angle yourself afterwards? You know, what do you, like you come out with a book? How do you reconcile yourself?

How do you reconcile yourself? Now that you've tarnished your, whatever. I would write a book about what happens when you chase greed. Yeah. And sell it. Yeah, and sell it. Sell it.

What a fucker. Sell it. Yeah. Just, it's not like that answer very much. That's good. You know what? You know what though?

So I thought about this a lot actually. I thought about this after we found out that our friend was going to be one of the trainers. I thought God, how would I approach this? You know what I would do? I would just be totally honest while I was on the show. And I would tell people, look, where would this year it you?

No, no, no, no. Where you would lose. No, the way I would say, I'd say look, this be? You wouldn't hear it, you wouldn't hear it. No, no, no, where you would lose. No, the way I would say, look, this is not how we're gonna do this for long-term success, but this is a competition. This is the fastest way to do it, and I'm gonna do this in the safest way

that we could do this in the fastest way. If I was a producer, I would like catch you when you're sleeping, put like, you know, like a hard alcohol, like bottled next to you, so you just look like you're just, what a jerk you do. Come on, like they want drama, dude, you know. Let's give it to the people.

Oh, I would be dramatic. Come on, I'd long have you known me. Yeah, I'd be crying with them. Yeah, okay. It's okay. I really would though for real, huh? Yeah, no, I would struggle with it. I'm not gonna lie, it would be a,

but no doubt in my mind, take me back to 25 years old. Also, when I think I've openly talked about much of my motivation was financial success. I would see the dollar signs with the opportunity, regardless if I believe in the philosophy. Because here's the thing, when it first came out, I actually really liked it.

In fact, I remember it came on the scene right in the heart of like when reality TV was blowing up. And it was right after reality TV started blowing up and it was starting to turn into like it was the Jerry Springer era and a lot of fucking garbage TV, right? Just polluting your mind with fucking trash and drama. And out comes this show about people losing fat and eating better and exercising. And as a trainer, I was super pro the show. I really was.

I thought it seemed like I had good intentions. I believe it really did. But because there's money involved and it's competitive, it started to kind of morph and change over the course of the first five seasons. And that's where I really started to fall off of watching it because I was like, oh man, this just took a turn. It took a turn down the drama route. They started capturing more of the fighting and arguing behind the scenes. There's someone stomping off. And they're training them terribly. Like, so they fucking throw up or want to, you know, pass out and beat in the crap out of them. I'm actually surprised it still exists with all the body positive

people out there. Well, I think they've been it to be more about positivity. And health. Yeah, and health. It's not healthy. You're watching a bunch of people starve to get starved and beat up in an environment that simulates zero of real life. I'm surprised that it's been around long because of the statistics on it. That's what's staggering to me that people still watch, still want to be a part of it, still glorify it

when 80% of the people that lose the weight, not only gain the way back, but they put on more. Very few people keep that going. And God knows where they're at 10 years later. This is just statistically over the course of the next few years after they lose the show. See, that would be a good way to spin it. Is that you're the trainer on there and then afterwards on your own time, then you continue to

train the people to help them out. You know what I mean? But film it and put on Instagram. I like my brain. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm monitoring. But yeah, it's, it's, you know what it reminds me of, I used to train a lot of doctors and if you brought up Grayson Adamie, they'd want to punch you in the face because they're watching TV doctors and it would annoy the shadow of them. And I think because we're as trainers pretending to be trainers. Yeah, as trainers you watch it and it makes it you get the same feeling you know. But if you if you if you look at it through the lens of this is entertaining TV then I guess it's it's it's okay. It's hard to come after you know who is another who's the other who's what I like the workout

better. Remember that one where they're all like I love that banging each other They're the drama drama the one that was on e. Yeah It was there was like the main ones like a lesbian that was converting all these girls And yeah, they're on the spicy they're on the sky the sky gym. Yeah great. Plit was on it wasn't it? That's my jam for a second. He was yeah, it's sex with all the girls in this first season like first episode Well, who is this guy? Yeah, he's the one. That one was the far one. Well, that one was the most real. I feel like that was it.

I was like, this is like a gym, right? The gym is a meat market. Everybody forgets that. Yeah. Number one in infidelity, number two is hospitals, right? So it's one. Wow, just that it is, according to the essentially, yeah, we should be in an open relationship.

Yeah, according to statistics, yeah. That's terrible. Yeah, we should be in an open relationship. Yeah, according to statistics, yeah. That's terrible. We define the odds. Speaking of this kind of stuff, I had no idea that, so do you guys know that there's an app called, what's the name of the, it's to connect sugar d'allies with sugar babies? It's called sugar babies. Thanks.

No, you know how I know this? How do you know? Because we've done already a ton of trips to LA, they advertise it on the fucking billboard. That's crazy. I think that. No, you know how I know this? How do you know? Because we've done already a ton of trips to LA. They advertise it on the fucking billboard. That's crazy. I remember that. Yes, I've asked those. I've seen it average, baby.

I have seen it average. You don't know the sugar baby is? No, I mean, I know, but now. But I didn't then. It's, yeah, it's literally young girls, most of them college, who are looking for men and the average man on this site is mid 40s. Who's gonna help pay them their bills?

You know what this is soft? This is soft prostitution is what they call it. Yeah, totally. It's like you don't have to strip. I mean, they've hacked the system. It's crazy, but it's gaining a popularity and they did some surveys at some universities. And in some universities, the statistics was as high

as two or three out of ten. Two or three out of ten girls are pursuing a sugar daddy or through apps like this or other types of things. Wow. It's that popular in this one article I read. That's what it's that. What? Yeah, dude. Wow. Yeah. My kid's not going to fucking go. You know what? It's funny because you know, I don't know where I stand on this because it's been happening forever. Oh yeah. It's been happening forever. It's not the first time.

Right. And you're doing your trade. Yeah. Exactly. Am I more pro because it's out in the open and you're just saying, hey, this is what it is. Instead of like trying to pretend like I'm in a website for now. Instead of pretending like you're in love with a guy 40 years older than you are. You know what I'm saying? Just like, hey, it is what it is.

Like the Amazon, which I know what he like. I know what he likes. I know what I like. And at least you're right, you're right though. At least they're honest about it. Right. No, he's got a, he's really nice. He's got a nice personality.

Oh yeah, she's super mature. No, she's like most mature 19 year old. I'm not. He's like, he's sometimes. Yeah, shut up. Yeah, right. I'm saying, that's crazy. What do you guys do it for free time? Yeah color color pictures together?

Yeah, two out of three out of three out of three at a time at some university really high at some universities It was it was yeah, it was like 10 15 20% of these girls saying you know said that they've definitely pursued now Have you guys known any any guys or girls personally that are like that? I had a buddy of mine who got divorced. He was 42 when he got divorced and then he had a 20 year old girlfriend. And that was his girlfriend for a little while and it was really weird because he had a daughter. That was like 17.

Do you imagine that bringing home your girlfriend and you're like, hey, you guys can hang out together. You like to say, babe? No, I have two that are like really close to me that I know. Both guys, one guy's in the club industry owns like nine different night clubs. Night clubs.

And he's got like six different girlfriends. And they and he's six different. Yeah, yeah, six different. They all have apartments and cars. Oh, he pays for all that. Yeah, he's got. So he's got a part. They all get a lot of you so style.

Yeah, and the family knows like it's like it's like it's like very, it's open about it. Now, he doesn't flaunted and shove it in style. And the family knows, it's like it's like very, it's open about it. Now he doesn't flaunt it and shove it in the wife and the kid's faces, and most of the girlfriends are the age of their oldest daughter. So who's my age? So he's like late 60s, early 70s dating girls that are in their 30s and stuff.

And they all have apartments, they all get cars. And that rotation changes. One of them acts up or doesn't fucking, he's not happy with one of them. She's out, car gets fucking repossessed. And new ones. It's like a basketball, it's like a roster. Yeah.

You're the other street. This other one was a dude that I know really close also big time into recycling industry, that side of the house, I'm gonna make millions of dollars. And same thing, multiple houses, cars, he even had a guy, like his main security guy, like that was his job was to manage all the girls.

So sometimes one of them would be, Wow, he put a lot of thought into that. Yeah, no, totally, it's crazy. That's insane. They would go Vegas too, they all go together. You know the whole, if this is your daughter, you gotta think to yourself as a father, like, wow, I fucked up.

Well, I think it's a, yeah, I think it's a father that's your goal is to keep your daughter off these apps. Yeah. Right. There used to be the poll that's what they used to say. Like, your one job as a dad is to keep your daughter off the poll. Like, that's the Chris Rock bit. Right. Right.

But your one job as a dad now is to keep my dad. But, you know, to be honest, though, statistically speaking, women rank security much higher in terms of attractiveness. How often do you see a very unattractive, wealthy, successful man with a super attractive woman and they actually like each other more often than the opposite? You don't see the opposite. You don't see the opposite. Hey, personally, I had a daughter. I would hope that I would keep her from this direction.

But, you know, I'm somebody who's like, to each their own, man. I mean, that's true. If nobody's getting hurt, yeah. Yeah, and it's all, and I mean, who am I to say? I mean, who am I to say that, you know, if she values security over looks and sex

and all those other things, like, and he provides that security for her. Well, there's a thing. And he enjoys youthfulness and she provides that for him. Yeah. Fuck, I don't care. The tough thing would be just, what do you do besides, I mean, I get the sex part. You know, what do you do besides that though?

Like, what kind of conversations do you have, you know? Well, the guys, so the guys, they work hard to the world. The guys that I'm talking about, the two that I have, the only two that I know really well in this situation, you know, they, they, they they for has old as they were acted very very young, you know, they were hip. They were so they're They're partying. Yeah, they're acting like they're 25. You know, I don't like it's can. Yeah, no totally doing doing the party scene and stuff like that just like what a lot of 25 Year olds would be doing him and that's their they have that connection and that I don't know if that's a A fear of getting old and hanging on to that. I don't give a shit

Kids what those candies you're eating right there those blue candies creep me out on guy speaking of boyfriends girlfriends have stuff. There's a guy that got arrested because he used the drone to drop explosives on his ex-girlfriends house. What? Yeah, dude. I'm sorry to laugh, but he bought a drone. And he made like little mini explosives and he flew the drone around.

Are you serious? Dropping, so this is the biggest. Bombs on our house. This is the biggest fear. You know what, something like that, one person does that and this is gonna ruin it for everybody, you know what I'm saying? That's a new thing, man, that's not cool. Cause that is like one of the biggest fears of this shit

is people being able to do stuff like that. I just dropped shit on you with the problem. Yeah, yeah. Falcon, dude. Falcon's will take him down, right? Yeah, yeah. You've here, watch it, like I remember, so we just had the Super Bowl at Levi Stadium and I saw this article where they had all these trained falcons like all over the outside

So none of the drones come in birds real falcons. Yeah, and they just they take them right out there Snatch them. They train them to do that to take down a drone Really? Yes, and they do yeah, they're very good at oh you gotta show me a video They'll fly and they'll grab it with their talents. Get the fuck in here. You guys are pulling my legs. I swear to God. That's 100%.

They train the birds to go get the drones. Because how do falcons hunt? They hunt other birds in the air. It's part of their natural behavior to take out a flying object. You didn't know that? I did not know that. Yeah, that's gonna pull up a video.

We gotta watch that. Yeah, this first time I saw that and I was like, oh, it's so smart. That sounds badass right? I'm gonna be a falcon trainer. Well, you got it You ever seen the guys on horses with the falcons or the Mongolians and shit. Yeah, that's those are the bad asses Yeah, they pick up goats and just drop them off clips those aren't falcons though Those are eagle gold. Oh wait. This is an eagle. This is trained eagle Maybe they're trained eagles at just even better. Yeah, that was that was a lot weaker than what I thought

I saw better better one before. Yeah, I wanna see one like, dive in like he's like sitting still, like come on. Yeah, I saw all pictures. I didn't really see the video. You want some battles or what? Well, yeah, I wanna see like one flying over like a peeping tom or something and a falcon goes in and goes,

just like grabs it. Yeah, a peeping tom. I want the drone to be doing something bad and the fal can save them. Well, you know they save the baby or something. You know that they make drones that also have flame throwers on them. And, wow.

No, no, no. These are legal drones. It's out of control. No, no, they're legal drones. You know what they're made for? People will fly them around their property and use the flame thrower to burn, what do they call, hornets nest.

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when training a client once a week? We answered this a long time ago. And I wanted us to answer it again because I think the, I think what most people would think you would say is run them through a circuit. That's crazy. It's a different hell. Yeah, and that's probably what I would have done

as a 22 year old trainer too. So I get it. Today I would do something completely different. So if I only have 30 minutes with a client, I'm probably gonna choose the exercise or couple exercises that I think have the greatest impact on helping them. So if that's a client that has a lot of aches and pains

and issues that I need to address corrective, then it might be three. Kind stretch. Right. It might be 90, 90 transitions. It might be some combat stretch stuff. It may be handcuffed rotation type stuff because to me that's the greatest priority for that client.

If it's somebody who's trying to build muscle, burn body fat kind of basic aesthetic type goals, I'm probably going to pick things like a squat or a deadlift or overhead press, pick two or three of those movements and focus on them in those 30 minutes. And you know, you could get a great squat session in 20 to 30 minutes. Yeah, I think it depends. So this is getting more and more popular. I don't know if it's, if the trend is still moving in this direction But it was about four years ago when I kind of you know a few years ago when I stopped personal training Part of the reason why I think this trend started to grow was because more people wanted personal trainers

But the cost the personal cost was the barrier. Yeah, and then the in the belief that oh, you know 30 minutes is all you need to work out And I can train you so hard in 30 minutes that you're not going to be able to do an hour anyway. And this kind of became the issue. This is why I've always, I've been against these 30 minute sessions because that's what tends to happen. Well, and a lot of the managers and whatnot, we're kind of promoting this as a way to squeeze in more clients per day.

And so it's like, if you keep stacking like every half hour, you're running a client, you know, now I said, you have a ton of clients you're servicing, but is it really good service? Yeah, and here's the problem with that. When you're transitioning that many clients, you know, every 30 minutes, you don't get a full 30 minutes.

There's a little bit of a transition period between clients. Yeah, so you end up losing five to 10 minutes and then the trainer feels pressured to train them even harder to give them their money's worth. Now, that being said, if this was me, if I was a trainer, training a client for, which I did have clients, that were 30-minute workouts. And the reason why I had clients that were 30-minute workouts was not because they were short on time or short on money. It was because it was what was appropriate for them. Many of these people were in advanced age or younger clients.

So I'd have clients that would bring me their kids sometimes, you know, 11 year olds or 12 year olds, in which case a 30 minute workout is about as much time as their attention span would allow them to do with me. And I'd want them to have a good relationship with the gym. Or older clients who come in and I do correctional exercise with them for about 30 minutes But let's say this was just the regular person regular average person coming to see me for 30 minutes the way I would structure it is I would

For the first sessions I would teach them easy to learn mobility movements that they could do for about 15 to 20 minutes before they My session with them starts. So the first few sessions, I'm going to teach you how to do these mobility movements. And then after the first few workouts, that's what you're going to do when you come to the gym before you meet with me. So I want you to show up about 20 or 30 minutes before our appointment. I want you to do these mobility movements. Then when it's time for our session to start, we jump right into the workout.

And then I'm doing a lot like what Adam said. I am going to focus entirely on what I think is going to give them the most bang for their buck, which probably is going to look like three exercises that we're going to focus our time on. Or maybe one complex, different, difficult exercise that I'm going to focus the entire 30 minutes. My goal would be, especially if it's only once a week, my goal with that 30 minute session would be to set them up so that they could do certain workouts on their own. So I'm gonna be doing, I'm gonna teach them things

that are kinda easy that I can see that they can learn. Here's what you're gonna do during the week when you're not with me and kinda so on. Well that and that's the thing too. I would like to establish a good ritual for them to do prior to the training session. So if it was very specific to what they needed, mobility wise, or they needed to warm up,

I would have them. I would work on that the first few sessions, maybe the first week, we're gonna establish this ritual, and then maybe I could see them and be the accountability that they already did that coming in. Now we're just going to focus on resistance training and those major lifts that we're trying to build the skill for.

Yeah, I guess you need to know if this client is, the client only has 30 minutes to train and so you have to try and get as much as you can done in the only 30 minutes if that's what we're talking about or is this person only buying 30 minute sessions, that's all they can afford. Because what I'm dealing with, I would change and modify, right? Because I actually had clients, I actually had a lot of clients that did like the 30 minute thing, or I have a lot of clients even today who, I'll see it, I don't have a lot, but I have a people that do see me today will come to see me just for like the squat or just for deadlift.

They're like, they're experienced, they've been lifting for a long time, but we understand all the nuances of squatting and deadlifting and overhead press and bench press. You know, there's a lot of little details that they may not feel very confident in addressing or knowing what's going wrong in the movement. So they'll be like, Hey, Adam, can I just, can I come by the gym for 30 minutes and have you watch me squat and critique my form? And so, and they feel, I mean, they feel totally fine doing bicep curls and try sit push downs and lateral raises and like a lot of the real basic movements that

there's not a lot of risk. There's not a lot of things going on. And they don't need me for that. They just, they need help with how to get into the squat properly, how to deadlift properly, and where, where their breakdown is. And so I, I could see a lot of value in 30-minute sessions that are used like that, but that, I'm also assuming

that person is going on to go do all the other, you know, auxiliary movements besides what, what I'm teaching. Yeah, but, you know, but here's the reality because we always speak to what actually happens in the real world, right? Because we're talking about how we would do it in a, in a, in a, make the best of the scenario.

But here's what ends up happening in the real world. Trainers just beat the crap out of someone for 30 minutes. This is how these sessions are being used. I haven't seen, and I think that's the worst way to use the other way around. That's a terrible, that's what ends up happening though, right? Like I've seen, I've seen a lot of of these and very rarely do I see them being utilized appropriately It's typically it's typically sold like you don't need a whole hour to work out we could get all we could get the same

60 minute workout in 30 minutes by cutting out all the rest periods and increasing the intensity in which case now It's just a shitty workout. You know, it's a shorter shitty workout. Well, yeah, now it's just turning into cardio with weights. Yeah. You know, now all you're doing is exercise, exercise low-rest periods, circuit training type stuff. And it's like, you know, we're now starting to turn it this more into a cardio session than it is a really good way to do it.

And how do they sell it? You only need 30 minutes, or that's all you could do is 30 minutes. We'll burn the maximal manicalery is possible. Exactly. Next question is from Cam the Lamb. Is intermittent fasting ever a good idea when wanting to lose weight? No, we talked about, we did a whole episode

on why fasting is a terrible way to lose weight. What would that focus on? Yeah, now keep in mind, can you lose weight by, let's change the word from fasting to not eating? Can you lose weight by not eating? But yeah, that's what happens is kind of a by-product. That's what happens when you don't eat, you lose weight. Is that a good tool and method to losing weight

in terms of the kinds of behaviors that you develop in terms of the relationship that you encourage yourself to develop with food? Terrible. Terrible. Models have been doing this for decades. Exactly. Now all of a sudden it's healthy now.

Yeah, because we put, we threw a name on it, backed it by science and showed some things with growth hormone and neurogenesis. And now we're like, oh, it's fucking healthy for you now. But it's like, no, this shit, these skinny ass models have been doing this for years where they fucking don't eat all day long. They have carrots for dinner. And now all of a sudden you're like, you know, what skinny ass models have been doing this for years where they fucking don't eat all day long. They have carrots for dinner.

And now all of a sudden, you're like, you know, what are you doing Greta? Like, oh, I'm fasting. I'm biohacking. Yeah, I'm fasting. Exactly. No, it's, no, no, no. Starving yourself to try to lose weight.

Now, here's what ends up happening. Forget about the physiological effects and the results. Yes, if you don't eat, you lose weight, okay? Let's get that out of the way. But let's talk about what ends up happening psychologically or behaviorally. You end up encouraging this restrict binge model of nutrition, where I don't eat, I don't eat, I'm restricting myself, I'm losing weight, I'm losing weight, and now it's time to eat, now I'm off the diet, and then when you're off, you're off. It's a complete reversal. It's a symptom eruption and it looks like binging.

It actually encourages that type of behavior. The only people that should be using fasting are people who use it for overall health and wellness and people who have good relationships to food. If you have issues with food, especially, if you have issues like anorexia or bulimia, even if it's been in your past, even if you think you're past all of that. Fasting, you are at- I love avoiding.

Yeah, it's like you're a recovering alcoholic who's like, yeah, I haven't had an alcoholic drink for two years, I'm gonna go get a job at a bar. Or I'm gonna go be a wine tester now for the rest. Terrible, terrible approach. Do you guys have a favorite type of person you like to teach it to? Oh, yeah. Like, when you think about like, like, I have a type of person that I like to teach for a max. Oh, it's me, LaDay.

Kind of like that guy. Yes. So I think somebody who understands macros counts really well. They break up their meals four to six times a day. They're religious about that. They're good. They're great. And they're in shape, they're healthy, they're all those things.

I love to teach them intermittent fasting. I love to introduce them to, hey, it's okay, we cannot eat for 12 hours straight, and you're not gonna lose my mind. Because their relationship to food is the opposite. It was mind blowing for me. I came from the, I had a, my body image was about,

I thought I was too skinny. So I was always trying to gain weight and put muscle on. So I was literally afraid of skipping a meal. In fact, I would get so irritable and angry when I missed a meal. And I thought it was because I needed to eat, but in reality it wasn't, it was a psychology. It was because now that I, oh shit,

it's been five hours since I've had my last meal, I am thinking in my mind that muscle is eating itself, that my body's metabolizing its muscle, and I'm going to lose gains. Oh no, I need to feed myself, type of deal. The first time I did a fast, I fasted for 24 hours, and the fact that I didn't lose any muscle, the fact that my performance didn't decrease, and that I felt okay, it blew my mind. It my performance didn't decrease and that I felt okay, it blew my mind. It shook up my whole world. All of a sudden, I broke that chain that I had connected to food. No longer did I, I realized that no longer do I have to carry protein bars with me everywhere I went, that I did, I had to eat every two hours. I had a similar experience, but I, being on the athletics side of the spectrum, not as neurotic about what I was eating in terms of

You know having to have like a very regimented schedule, but more just in excess amount of surplus, right? Because it was all about like how was feeling energy-wise and like how that was translating to the field and so You know very much like dependent on these big meals like constant big meals And so it's now you know, take that away and understand like what real, like what hunger actually feels like was like a totally different experience and also just the social elements

and you know, everything involved with it for me to just step away from it was just a very, you know, unique thing to go through. So that's my favorite person to talk to. Then I have my least favorite person to try and teach it to or I will avoid teaching it to and that's a fat loss person. So when it comes to me and they say Adam I want to lose weight and my girlfriend or my friend is doing intermittent fasting, you know, can we try that? I say no. And I won't let them try that at least not at the

beginning because almost always, and you've heard me talk on the show before my diet philosophy, like when I have a client that wants to lose weight, I don't restrict food at the beginning. I find it, I've had way more success by introducing more good food into their diet than by restricting and taking away. Because most people that have a weight problem, that struggle with weight loss, have already done the yo-yo dieting and already have that relationship that Sal was talking about, the binging and the restricting, the binging and the restricting. So I don't want to encourage that by teaching them intermittent fasting.

Now I will allow them to do that down the road, maybe six months after we've been training together and we've built up their metabolism and they're eating more calories than they've ever ate before. And I'll say, Hey, this Friday, let's do a fast, you know, and I prefer that over the, the, the most popular model of intermittent fasting intermittent fasting becomes so trendy that it's this every day, everybody does it. It's a, oh, I don't eat till two every day.

It's just, it works for my lifestyle. Like, that's fine if it works for you, I get it. But that's not how I like to coach to it. If I introduce somebody who is, originally their goal is to be weightless, weight loss one, I won't teach them at the beginning how to do it. I first want to introduce all the good foods. I first want to build up their metabolism

to where they're eating more calories and more food than they ever had before. And then when I introduce fasting, I want to do it like one day. It's one day and it's like intermittently. It all say, hey, this Thursday or whatever coming up, we're not going to eat all day long. It's an all day fast and it's not a window fasting and it's not something I want them

to do every day. It's just I want to be able to show them they can have this and see how you and then also talk to them about how they feel. The best health effects that come from fasting actually happen after 24, 48, 72 hours. It's the long fast, and even longer, there's long fast that they've studied that show tremendous health benefits. The health benefits you get from not eating 12 hours a day

every single day are not the same. And a lot of these studies show that. So there's some benefits for some people, but I will say this, some people experience hormonal issues if they consistently and constantly fast every single day. You see testosterone lower and men. You see these progesterone estrogen imbalances

and women, women tend to be much more sensitive to consistent frequent type of fasting. It's the infrequent longer fast that I found have the best benefit and the science supports it. So what I like to do is I like to a couple times a year, or a few times a year, I'll do a 72 hour fast. And that's where you get the anti-cancer benefits, the anti-inflammatory benefits.

I get to detach from food, so I get to practice the ancient spiritual practice of detachment when it comes to food for 72 hours. That's where I see some of the benefits. But before you even look at fasting, there's so many other things you can tackle before you go there. Like you need to learn how to just eat better in general. Learn how to eat your, you know, more balanced macros, not overeat, pick better foods, you

know, those kinds of things. Before you go into not eating at all for, you know, for your health. Next question is from Danny Burtick. If all other attempts to aid in better sleep result in no luck, is melatonin a safe supplement to cycle on and off? So, so let's start with the all other attempts heart. What is that? Yeah, I wish I would've got a list. There's, if you're not able to sleep, okay,

because sleep is fundamental. It's a fundamental, you have to sleep. In fact, lack of sleep can actually lead to death. There have been studies, there's just really terrible studies that were done a long time ago where they would actually prevent people from sleeping. And people went mad, they went crazy. It can actually kill you. So your body has to sleep. If you're having issues sleeping, something is wrong either physiologically or what's common is psychologically. There's something going on mentally there.

So examine all of those things. So if you're like, okay, well, I turn off my lights a couple hours before bed. I'm not on my electronics. I'm not eating food too soon before bed. I'm not taking any stimulants. That's a big one. People are like, I can't sleep. And I'm doing all these different things. I'm like, not taking any stimulants. That's a big one. People are like, I can't sleep. And I'm doing all these different things.

I'm like, what do you have caffeine? Well, yes, I do. Okay, so you can add equipment throughout the day. Yeah, are you getting sunlight during the day? Because sunlight during the day actually helps set your circadian rhythms so you can sleep at night. Are you having any stimulants at all? Believe it or not, to people who have sleep issues.

It's a little as 20 to 50 milligrams of caffeine any time during the day. Even if it's first thing in the morning, it will affect their sleep. So look at, have you tested cortisol and hormone level? Look at all those things. A lot of things said. Melatonin is very, very much on the bottom of the system.

Yes, look at all those things. Now, in terms of melatonin being safe, well, first off, it's very, say, it's a non-toxic hormone that you can use. But if you use it for relatively long period of time, Well, first off, it's very, it's a nontoxic hormone that you can use. But if you use it for relatively long period of time, you're probably going to suppress your own body's melatonin production. So like other hormones, there's a feedback loop.

So if I'm on testosterone, if I take testosterone, then my body will stop producing testosterone. If I'm taking melatonin all the time, my body may stop producing or lower its production of melatonin. Now, I'm in a bad position. Now, if I go off, my sleep was worse than it was before, and I have to go through that period of, you know, letting my body come back to normal. Studies show that a very low dose of melatonin is best. So when you go to the store and you see one milligram, two

milligrams, three milligrams a testosterone, even one milligram is too much. Studies show that it's about a quarter to half a milligram of a melatonin seems to be best for people who use it. And it probably should be used intermittently. It also, in some people, if they don't take a time-release version, they'll find themselves waking up at the middle of the night, so they'll take it before they go to bed, help them go to sleep. That's what you do to me. And then wake up when it wakes up.

It would knock me out, and I'd sleep hard for like a few hours, but then I'd wake up and then I couldn't go back to sleep. Yeah, so time release, probably better, because it's slowly dripping, but it doesn't really mimic how your body releases melatonin. Your body didn't release melatonin that way. So it's like a band-aid. I like using it for travel.

So if you're traveling somewhere, where there's a three, four hour difference, it can help set your circadian rhythm, but it's still not as good as changing how you eat and getting sunlight. Like if you travel somewhere, don't eat when it's dark in the place you're traveling to

because your internal organs, including your stomach has like a circadian rhythm. Get sunlight when the sun is out, make sure it's dark when it's dark to the place that you're traveling to. But yeah, there's a lot of things you need, you got, and if you're doing, if you think you're doing everything

and it's still not working, I would see a therapist because there's a lot that goes on in your mind that will affect your sleep. The only thing, one of the only things that'll keep me up at night more than anything else is worry. Oh, anxiety. Oh yeah.

I have a client of mine that I talk to in a regular basis. She struggles with sleep big time and you know, she's addressing a lot of the other stuff, the nutrition, everything that's out just now. But the biggest thing that I know she's got, she's got a lot of the other stuff, the nutrition, everything that's salvaged its name, but the biggest thing that I know she's got, she's got a lot of anxiety and stress, and that's enough to throw it off. Super strong. It's definitely something else.

Like, nobody should have to take melatonin to get to sleep. Can it be used as a tool? Yeah, I think, absolutely. I think it's totally safe to be used as a tool. But at what point does, I asked this question about anything. We were having an off-air conversation about this. We were talking about drugs, caffeine, marijuana,

like everything, like, and I've just, I never want to be dependent on anything. Like when does something go from a tool to being you becoming dependent on it? Like what's that point? Like you have to be honest with yourself. If you're taking melatonin every single night, is it really a tool anymore?

Or is it something that you've become dependent on as something as an aid to get you to sleep and you require that? And personally, no matter what all the thing, and I openly talk about all the different stuff that I use, I'm always very careful of how often or how consistent I'm using anything, and if I'm having to use something that consistently, then I feel like there's a deeper how consistent I'm using anything. And if I'm having to use something that consistently,

then I feel like there's a deeper issue that I need to address. Here's the top. It's also apnea too. Yeah, that's a good point, which is like, I mean, this is something that, a couple of my clients, my family had to go through this process of like getting sleep tested.

That's why, you know, mentioning that's good because you don't know. Like, unless you're partnered, like, knows exactly that you're like a back sleeper and they can hear this, like, there's moments where you wake yourself up and you're like choking on your own air. You know, it's hard to tell like that you have it.

So it's good to have like this. No, that's a good point. See a sleep specialist because they'll, what they'll do is they'll monitor you for a night or two and then they'll be able to, if it is sleep apnea, it's a game changer. I mean, you wear one of those, what are they called?

Sea Pat. Sea Pat machine. The change in your sleep quality, I mean, I have a family member who, she's used a seat pat machine, she's like, I can't, well, I didn't realize how bad it was because I woke up for the first time feeling rested and I didn't even know what it felt like to feel fully rested since using this thing.

Here's a few things that you can do that'll make a huge impact. Get activity daily. Don't use any stimulants whatsoever, including mild stimulants like chocolate. Avoid all stimulants completely. Get sunshine when the sun is out. So when the sun is out, go outside. It sets your circadian rhythm. It really makes a big difference. Turn down or turn off your lights and go by candlelight or you wear blue blockers about two hours before bed and don't

eat anything about a few hours before going to bed. And then make sure your room is cool. Make sure everything is cool in your room. So either use AC or use a product like the chili pad or ula on your bed that keeps your temperature of the bed at a nice cool temperature. Those things right there can help a lot of people. Awesome, just.

And then if you're past that point, I'd say see a sleep specialist, but the last option is to take, and I'm not knocking, you know, taking sleep aids or melatonin because at the end of the day, getting some sleep is definitely better than getting no sleep. So I'm not knocking it, but if you're not able to sleep, there's probably a reason why. Next question is from Jim Mendoza. What would each of you say is the it factor to be a personal trainer?

Oh, yeah. I'll go ahead and take this one since I'm the only one of us that has this. He's got to look. You know, when I think of the it factor, I'm thinking of the one thing that will, you know, most guarantee, there's nothing that'll guarantee success. Okay. But the one thing that will, you know, most guarantee, there's nothing that'll guarantee success, okay, but the one characteristic that will most likely guarantee success. Yeah, cause I think when I look at all the trainers that work for me, there's like four or five attributes

that I think that contribute to like a really good personal trainer, and I've had a range of like, some of them having none of the other four, lots of one, a mix of all of them. So there's lots of things that make up. Oh yeah. Well, if you look at like, if you use, for example, if you compare me and Justin as two trainers, both different but equally handsome, very different and just above average. But both very successful. Thank you. We above average. Both both very successful. Thank you. We have a very successful. Both very successful as personal trainers, both of us have had clients that were with us

for years and years and years, but we're both very, very different. But there is one thing that we have in common, and this is the one thing that I think is the it factor, likeability. You can be charismatic, you can be quiet, you can be extroverted, you can be introverted, you can be knowledgeable, you can be extroverted, you can be introverted, you can be knowledgeable, you can be a beginner,

you can be a trainer that's great with correctional exercise or athletic performance. It's the likability. Are you somebody that someone looks forward to meeting an hour, you know, two days a week or three days a week for years? If you're likable, then the odds that you'll be successful are much higher.

I can't think of anything else. If your friends don't like you, you're not successful are much higher. I can't think of anything else. Friends don't like you. You're not going to do very well. I can't think of anything else that would be. This is a very social type of a joke. I could make a case for communication, because you could be, you don't need to be the smartest trainer in the room, but if you do a good job of communicating the information that they need really well,

that's pretty close to the factor for me too, because I feel like some of the best trainers aren't even the ones that are the most well-read or the smartest trainers out there, but they have the ability to go, a client has a problem, right? And this was me, this is definitely part of my journey as a trainer, like I didn't have this major

educational background, I didn't have a ton of certifications when I first started. You know, I was just up and coming and I would run into an issue. The client would have something that I'd never dealt with before and I would say, you know, I don't know, but let me find out for you and I'll get back to you. And then I would go home and then that's what would cause me to start reading and learning. And then I would be able, and what I could do really well is I could read a bunch of dry material and get the gist of what I needed to do for that person and then I'd be able to come back and communicate that information.

And then, that's what would make you an effective trainer. That's for sure. Definitely what would make you an effective trainer is being able to communicate. Because at the end of the day, your goal is to get the client to change behaviors. And the only way to do that is to be able to communicate your ideas well enough to where they want to really do.

But you're right. If you're not likable, no one's showing. Yeah. No, you have to be, you know, you got to relate to them. You got to be able to relay this, this information and communicate it in a way. They're actually going to be able to absorb it. Like you can't just hammer them with information that, you know, they're not going to apply. It has to be, it has to make sense to them. Well, think about this way. I mean, I had clients that were with me for 10 plus years.

Okay. That would see me for two hours every single week for 10 years. That's two uninterrupted, one on one, you and I hanging out working out whatever two hours a week for 10 years they would spend more more concentrated quality time with me than most of their friends and family if you think about it if you really think about it now imagine if you're the client who would you want to spend that much one-on-one no one else just undivided attention time with for 10 years. You better fuck it, you're gonna wanna like the shit of them. I don't care how good of a workout you're getting,

or how great the exercise, or even how great your results are. If they're not super likeable, you're not showing up for 10 years. It just ain't happening. You're gonna be like, oh man, I don't wanna, I mean, it's a good work on everything, but fuck, you know, it's kind of boring or the guy is not, you know, they're not cool or I don't wanna hang out with them or whatever. So it's like ability. I can tell, look, a good work on everything, but fuck, you know, it's kind of boring or the guy is not, you know, they're not cool or I don't want to hang out with them or whatever. So it's like ability. I could tell, when I used to interview, I could pick out, this is funny now,

when I would hire my staff, there were certain qualities I would look for that would, you know, all but guarantee the success of that person. And the one thing, because I worked in a gym, and this is true for almost everybody in the gym, except for people that didn't have to work with people too much, like if you're cleaning my gym or whatever, but if you're my front desk, if you're my salesperson, and especially if you're a trainer. When I'm interviewing you and I'm asking you questions,

the number one thing I'm paying attention to is, do I like this person? Is this person seem like a likable person? Because when I would hire a very likable person, I knew that I could teach them all the other shit. But when they were likable, I was like, man, people are gonna wanna buy memberships from you. They're gonna wanna train with you.

They're gonna wanna show up if they check into the gym and you're a likable front desk person. They're gonna love checking in. That was always the number one. It's true, because when I look back at all the trainers that I trained too, the more likable you were to, the more often you were the more successful trainers. Not just if you would be successful, but if you were really well liked, where your peers liked you, the people.

That's what I mean. If everybody liked you, like, you know, you did really well. And I think that's a recipe for success in life. Totally. Totally. I don't think it's as personal. Some people miss that. Totally. That's unfortunate. Now, here's a question. How do you become a likable person? That's a real, I think that's a good question to ask because there are certain things that you see these type of people do, like behaviors, that other people do.

Like a simple behavior that likable people do is, they smile when people talk to them. They look engaged with the conversation, like genuinely engaged in the conversation, like and interested in what you have to say. I'm not looking at my phone or looking off. They'll have like a weird look on my face. So I think being approachable and being interested, and I think that's where I kind of lucked out as a young trainer was.

I was just a curious kid as it was. I smiled a lot, I was pretty happy. And if somebody was giving me their attention and talking, I was interested. Yeah. I mean, listening is a good one, being empathetic. Actually, and I'm talking just specifically as a personal trainer,

because there's things that make you likeable just as a human being. But as a personal trainer, do you, does the client actually feel like you care? Like this person, like my trainer actually cares about me. That's like when you're a doctor, you know when you go to your doctor, you ever have a doctor where you feel like,

man, this doctor really gives a shit about me. That makes them likeable as a practitioner. It's hilarious because I used to make fun of these life coaches, you know, in quotations. I was like, what is a life coach? You know, like, what are you teaching them? You know, like, that's gonna impact them so much, it's gonna transform their life.

But that's like what we do the entire time, we're training them, we're just talking about their life and they're relaying, you know, everything that's happened, their feelings, like, working through all this stuff as they're working on self-improvement and it's having somebody there to communicate with along that journey, it's so valuable to them. in their feelings, like working through all this stuff as they're working on self-improvement. And it's having somebody there to communicate with along that journey. It's so valuable to them.

Yep. And the reason why I wanted to say, I want to hammer this home is because I've had trainers that were very charismatic. Charisma is different. Charisma is, you know, we all know what charisma looks like. Then I've had trainers and staff that were not nearly as charismatic, but also extremely likable. And they were all very successful.

So long as they applied all the other things to, like, you know, being hard workers and constantly trying to grow. But that's it, man. If I had to list one thing right there, and I'll tell you what, remove that, you could have all the other attributes. You could be, how many trainers did you have?

How many PhDs and masters and bachelor degrees did you have that work for you that were just not like nobody liked them? And they sucked. They were terrible. Nobody's gonna hire you. At all, you're not a robot. And your peers don't help you.

You know what I'm saying? And then personal training is one of those businesses too where you wanna be liked by your peers because there's a lot to learn from everybody that you're working with inside of a facility, especially if you're working in a gym where there's multiple trainers. You don't wanna be the guy or the girl

that nobody else likes to be around. It's funny too, because Jordan Peterson talks about like raising kids, and one of the things he says, which I thought was absolutely brilliant, is one of your jobs as a parent, is to make sure that your child is liked by other kids. Because if they learn that skill as a child that they're likable, the odds of success in life

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