Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1133: Building Muscle & Strength with Olympic Lifting Inspired Training, Exercises that Help Improve the Bench, Squat & Deadlift, the Dangers of Training in Extreme Temperatures & MORE

Episode Date: October 4, 2019

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about lifts that help improve the bench, squat and deadlift, the benefit of including power cleans, push presses, high pulls, clean pulls, Pendlay rows, and more into workouts for muscle and strength gains, the danger of injury when working out in freezing temperatures, and private school vs public school. How there is an ideal temperature for the best sleep quality. The game-changing benefits of the ChiliPad. (7:08) Old school technology facts brought to you by Sal Di Stefano. (10:30) When Adam posts exercise videos the trolls come out. (14:00) The importance of having an outlet to release your rage. (16:52) How Skinny Dipped is destroying its competition. (19:06) Mind Pump Recommends ‘Inside Bill's Brain: Decoding Bill Gates’ on Netflix. (20:43) Fitness through the decades: The running revolution from the 70s/80s and how we are poised for a new fitness revolution. (25:56) New viral fitness trends, the importance of community when working out, communicating the RIGHT way with your clients & MORE. (29:30) How the RIGHT dose is the BEST dose when it comes to training. (37:16) California will allow college athletes to profit from endorsements under a bill signed by Newsom. Mind Pump provides their first take. (44:10) #Quah question #1 – Can you guys talk about lifts that help improve the bench, squat, and deadlift? (52:19) #Quah question #2 – Thoughts on an Olympic lifting inspired phase of training including things like power cleans, push presses, high pulls, clean pulls, Pendlay rows, etc. for muscle and strength gains? (1:04:07) #Quah question #3 – I have a detached garage and I have turned it into a gym. I am in the northeast and the winters are rough, my garage has no heat. Are there any dangers, as far as injuries, when working out in freezing temperatures? (1:09:46) #Quah question #4 – I would love to hear your point of view on private school vs public school? (1:16:06) People Mentioned Mark Bell (@marksmellybell)  Instagram Layne Norton, PhD (@biolayne)  Instagram Dwayne Johnson (@therock)  Instagram Andy Galpin (@drandygalpin)  Instagram Ben Greenfield Fitness (@bengreenfieldfitness)  Instagram   Related Links/Products Mentioned October Promotion: MAPS Anabolic ½ off!! **Code “RED50” at checkout** Visit ChiliPad for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code “MPOOLER” at checkout** Visit Skinny Dipped for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code “mindpump” at checkout** Inside Bill's Brain: Decoding Bill Gates | Netflix Official Site The Complete Book of Running – Book by James F Fixx Mirror TV Commercial, 'A Window' Neuro-computational Impact of Physical Training Overload on Economic Decision-Making California law takes paying college athletes out of the NCAA's hands: Today's talker What happens next after California’s governor signed a bill to pay NCAA players Gavin Newsom signs California's 'Fair Pay to Play Act' with LeBron James & Mav Carter | THE SHOP How to do a Bulgarian Split Squat Mind Pump TV - YouTube Unschooling, Plant Medicine, Anti-Aging, Veganism vs. Carnivore & More With The Mind Pump Guys! Mind Pump Free Resources

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. Mite, obite, ob with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this episode of The Mind Pump, so look in this episode, we talk about fitness health, burning body fat, building muscle, looking awesome and feeling awesome, but we also talk about current events and our lives. So for the first 48 minutes, which is the intro portion of this episode,

that's what we talked about. Then we got into the fitness questions. Here's what we talked about in the first 48 minutes. We talked about the chili pad and how it warms up your bed. It didn't just cool your bed. You can also warm up your bed on cold nights. Warm me.

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I'll tell you what's wrong with you guys, leave the old guy alone. Then we talked about old man strength workouts. I talked about how I bought chocolate almonds at Whole Foods and they were disgusting. I'm not trying to eat a bunch of chocolate. I want big chocolate. I want almonds.

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That guy is an amazing philanthropist. I talked about the running revolution of the 70s and 80s. We talked about overtraining and impulse control. Did you know if you overtrain, you'll actually become more impulsive. I guess you have more one nightstands, maybe. Yeah, a lot more skinny dip. Then we talked about college football players and their pay in California. Then we get to the fitness portion of this episode.

The first question, this person wants to know about lifts that help improve the bench squat and deadlift. So what are the other lifts that can contribute to strength gains and those very important lifts? The next question, this person wants to know what we think about Olympic lifts or explosive lifts. What is the role in your program for muscle and strength? They're good, but they're probably not for you. The third question, this person has a garage

without any heat, they live in the Northeast. It gets cold as hell. What are the risks of training in extreme temperature? So we talk about the risks, but also the benefits of training in extreme temperatures. It's kind of like Rocky Fore, I love that movie. Yeah. And the final question,

this person wants to know what our point of view is on private school versus public school. Now, of course, we're fitness professionals, but I probably didn't know that we're experts on every other subject, including. Wow. This is cool. People are going to love this part. So we give our opinion on that topic right there. Also, this month, you guys asked for it, you got it. The most popular program we've ever sold, Maps and Obolic is 50% off. Now Maps and Obolic is the best overall,

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great program to combine with some reverse dieting to get your metabolism to speed up. Anyway, it's 50% off. Here's how you get the discount. Go to mapsred.com that's MAPS-RED.com and use the code red50-RED50-No space for the discount. You know what I forgot? Because we haven't had it for very long. Huh. Because it's getting colder now. I know we're in California. People listening are like, fuck you. Yeah, they'd totally balk at us. Hey, look, yesterday it was like, it's real everybody. It was like 60 degrees. So, you know what I mean? No, my house got, that's like, ooh, my house got really cold last time.

We had a fire going last night. Did you, are you the asshole that makes a fire and has the window open? Wait, I was hoping to. Oh my god. So, I think that goes back to childhood shit. We talked about this in off air. I think you're camping inside.

Who are we with when we were talking about this? Somebody else they grew up like a little, you know, poor. What was it? It was somebody we were talking off air. Oh, I think it was Mark Bell. I think Mark Bell and I were talking about it. I can't remember who it was, but. He just, you just were never allowed to turn on the AC or anything.

Yeah, I had the dad who would, you know, if you, if he would set the temperature, you know, in the summertime, it was fucking set at like if he would set the temperature, you know, in the summertime, it was fucking set at like 79 before the ACK won, right? So ACs doesn't come on to like 79 degrees. And then the winter time, and it come on to like 58, the heater. You know what I'm saying? Where the coat?

Yeah, yeah, right. So I literally, I said, as soon as I got to a place where I was out of my own, and I could afford to pay my own bills That was just something I just agreed with myself like I'm never Not gonna do what I want if I want the if I want to roll my I do this my truck even your house is constantly the perfect temperature Yes, however, I like it. Yeah, screw everybody. You know that means I want a cool breeze coming into the window Like my fires rolling your baking in front of the fire That's what my grandparents my grandparents when we used to go to my grandparents house,

it was where you're jacket in the house. That was, we'd be like, it's cold, no, not, and she'd be like, go put your jacket on. Did I tell you? So it would be all wearing jackets inside the house. Did I tell you about Katrina's sister came over, like, I don't know, this was two, three weeks ago when the AC was down, and she comes over,

this was right in the middle of our heat wave, right? Because that's when my AC was, of course, was down. And she walks in, she wanted to come in and see Max miss. And it's like two o'clock in the afternoon on a weekday, I don't know why I was home, I happened to be home, I think for like a lunch real quick. And she tells me that she's coming over. And she comes walking in and she's got a, you know, Parker thrown over her shoulder.

And she comes walking upstairs. And she's, we're saying hi to Max, and we're talking and she kind of just throws her jacket over the couch and doesn't say anything. And I'm like, yeah, it's, it's like 90 something degrees outside. What's with the Parker? She's like, oh no, I brought it to come over here, but it's really nice in here today.

I don't know why it's so nice. AC broke, the AC broke. Yes, it's normal. She's hurting a part of it. Yeah, I thought it was so funny that she's never said anything to me before, you know? She's just been like, hell of nice about it, you know? Don't learn snow clothes.

Yeah, she's like, oh, go to a round of jumps. I gotta bring... If they could invent like a AC unit that just sprays snow in your house, you would be so happy. Hey, so listen to this. So last night, so I window open, fire goes out, so, and I still got the windows open. So I wake up this morning at like six o'clock, like freezing. And I'm like, oh my god, which I love. I like it to be freezing cold. But I'm like, oh, perfect. It's like six in the morning. I'm going to go upstairs and go crawl in bed with Katrina and Maximus. I'm like, we haven't slept

together in the same bed since like, only when we travel and stuff right now. And so, I go up there. And remember I told you guys, like the last time we talked about the chili pad, that Katrina loves to run it for the white noise. Yeah. So even though it's not on her side, it's on my side,

she'll run it so the baby sleeps great with it. And I forget all about this, dude. She jumped in. Bro, I screamed like a little girl. Was it freezing? Oh, it was, so I could walk enough stairs, all of a sightings, I was cold from downstairs, like, oh, it'll be nice and warm in my room.

And it was, I walked in the room warm, get right onto the sheets. She had that shit running all night long with nobody on it at like 51 degrees. It was fucking icicles. It's like on it at like 51 degrees. It was fucking icicles. It's like this stuff forgot that same fact, too. It was like freezing, dude. Just crawling in like, I'm gonna get all snugly worn out.

Oh, it gets so cold. You get the turtle balls, but who goes in the shell? Bro, so cold. So cold. I forget how powerful that thing is. Well, a lot of people don't realize that the chili pad or the uler are both products from time to time. Yeah, I have the uler. I always call it the chili pack, because I know that thing. Well, a lot of people don't realize that the chili pad or the uler, both products themselves.

Yeah, I have the uler. I always call it the chili pack, because I know that was their original product. Yeah, the uler's got the, what is it, the Bluetooth app that allows you to, like change the temperatures throughout the night, all that stuff, but it also warms up. So because it's starting to cool,

you know, get cooler, especially in certain parts of the country, I think like Chicago, it's like 13 to 13 degrees already. It's always freezing there. You can trust me. You can set, because here's a thing with sleep quality, there's an ideal temperature.

And it is cool, a cool temperature will give you the best sleep. Studies will show that. You have the deepest sleep, the most recuperative sleep, the least amount of inflammation, the best melatonin production. But it's an ideal temperature.

So let's say your coldest fuck in your house, you can set your, you can set your ulla or your chili pad to maintain the temperature. So if it's too hot, it'll stay, it'll cool down. If it's too cold, it'll warm it up. And in some places where it's coldest shit, that's a nice little, get in your bed and it's like, little toasty.

Yeah, to be interesting to use that when it gets really cold This winter if I'm sure it's gonna love that you know, it's a it's a it's a game changer and I and I'm starting to see Mattresses come with these things now built in I think this is a thing now people are demanding like they want temperature Temperature control mattresses. Oh really. Yeah. Oh, I haven't seen that. It's a big selling point They're exploding. I think what was it last month that Chili Pad ran out of stock. Yeah.

They just got such a huge demand that they, I mean, they're all fully stocked now, but they, they're so popular. I think a lot of people are like, oh, this, this makes a big, back in the day, you know what people used to do? They used to use friction. No.

That's how I got warm. You rub, you know, rub, you legs together all fast. What are you doing? You're starting a fire. Yeah, exactly. No, they used, they're called water bottles, but they're not like a water bottle. Like we know, you're watching the video of Franco Colombo and pumping arm blowing up the, the hot water bottle bottle with his lungs. He's blowing it up and it explodes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You don't talk about the old scrubber.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Olds, by the way, that's a very, very dangerous feed of strength. A lot of people don't realize this, but old strong men, back in the day, it was a common act. It was a feed of strength with a, they're thick rubber.

These thick rubber, they're called water bottles. And to blow them up requires something like the old school ones require, I don't know how many, hundreds or a thousand pounds of pressure for water. So what did you use these things for right here? So you would fill them up with hot water and you would put them in your bed to make yourself, to make yourself warm.

Yeah, that's what these would do. Or you would fill them up with ice, you know, or ice water or whatever. They're basically used for temperature, but warm heat is a lot of times what these would do. Or you would fill them up with ice, you know, or ice water or whatever. They're basically used for temperature, but warm heat is a lot of times what they would use them for. But anyway, it was, I mean, would it work or would it just be warm around the bottles?

Well, it's not a chili pad. But you know, it's like the old tech. It's like the poor man's chili pad. That's his old tech, bro. You're talking like turn to a century. You got like 12 water bottles in your bed to say, yeah, yeah. Well, people would put my grandfather used to put it,

used to have them in his bed, used to tell me stories, he'd put them by his feet, one by his feet, and then one by his upper body, because they didn't have, you know, they had no heater. I guess, I guess if you had like down sheets, right, and you had it down by your feet, it would kind of warm up the bed. They would put him in the bed before going to bed.

Oh, okay. And then you would go into bed, bed and then you get in and the bed would be warm. I've never seen it. I'd never had a family member that had that. Have you, Justin? Did you know this? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I've seen these before. Don't fucking lie.

I'm serious. I have. I've never heard you talk about these. I've never heard you talk about these. Parents had these. Really? Yeah. Wow, I feel so out of the loop right now.

Yeah, so they're all you remember May this like rich technology It is you don't remember seeing cartoons where they use these things and whatever no I do know that I've seen these guys blow these up and making them. Yes, but I never really thought about it I'm so this is true now There was they had to put out a warning because people were attempting to blow these things up because they would see Strong men doing it and it's dangerous because once it starts to expand it would it's so strong because it's thick rubber That if it blew the air back into your lungs people would get it ruptured lungs Yeah, from trying to do this so they actually had to put out a warning and said don't attempt

To blow one of these things up. It's dangerous because if the air rushes back in you could cause yourself some Look at you coming with the random facts today. Yeah, isn't that cool? That is. You want to know some other old school tech? So speaking of my, so when I go to Sicily, I see all this shit. I used to see all this stuff when I was like 12

because they were poor, and people here in America were passed all this stuff in my grandparents. Like my grandparents didn't get a phone until I think 1993. So when we would call them. Like a house phone? Yeah, I didn't have a phone. Oh wow.

So in order to call them, maybe 1990, they would schedule a time and then they'd go to a friend's house and then we'd call over there. Oh, that's crazy. They didn't have an indoor bathroom until my dad was, I wanna say my dad was 17.

Oh, wow. Then they had an indoor-bound house and everything else set up outside. One, wow. Yeah, with six kids, one bathroom outside. Wow. And then you had the chamber pot underneath the bed. Yeah.

So you have to take a piss and go, you just, P.M. Yeah, I know. But so you know what, my grandma used to iron clothes? The old school irons were, they were made out of iron, and you put hot coals in it.

Hot coals. You put hot coals in it? I've never seen that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and then you close it, and then made out of iron, and you put hot coals in it. Oh, hot coals. You put hot coals in it. I've never seen that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then you close it, and then you'd iron clothes, and it'd make fucking smoke and shit. Oh, my God. That sounds super dangerous.

Oh, shit. My shirt is pressed, but I smell like a barbecue. Ah! You know what I'm saying? That's what they used to do. That's crazy. That's crazy. That's crazy.

I saw you doing some, some, some, some heaviest lifts. Yes, some, some, some almost, almost strong lifts. Well, that's what you put on the story. Don't you love posting a good exercise video? You know, I, people to contribute. Every time I post, I remember why I don't post so much of exercise stuff, you know, because, well, one, I'm not,

I, it's, I, I do it every once in a while, just so people know that I still live, right? So they know they it is fitness guy. We just got a Instagram. We don't exercise. I still got it. So everyone's so off there. So they're out. By the way, just so you know, I still lift at lift weights, right? But it drives me crazy, dude, because there's always some fucking tool on there that wants to come in and like tell me how to fuck your lift weights. Really? Yeah.

And I just, what were you doing? Deadlift time. What would you do that you could get a comment on? It's always something, dude. You know, all your lips, your hips are coming through. Your hand position is off. Yeah. Your hand, your hands, your straps, your hips, your fucking face.

You know, it was a little bit bent. That was really what everyone was saying. I mean, it's not that bad. So it's real, for the most part, I think we have a really good audience, so we don't get a lot of trolls. I think most trolls know better. Oh, they're there, bro. I still get them.

I did a post on my Instagram. I think the ones that are annoying to me, are actually the ones that think that they're contributing good input. That's what they're super technical. Like if you're just trolling me hard, like come get it, you know what I'm saying? Because then I'll fire back at you.

Yeah. So be like, hey, I just, I to be nice about this, but your form looks really shitty. Like you guys, but I gotta be honest, I have to say something. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like, yeah, yeah, it's like, you feel like a pill and say something. Yeah, I mean, or the last question, but it's actually a comment. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, is there a reason why your, your hips shift to the left?

I just want, I just want to know if that's like a technique. I know you're trying to justify this because you posted it, you know. So I'm gonna be careful about how you see this. I had a, I posted a picture on the actual, my actual main page of, it was just, we went, when we were working out up in, I think it was Seattle before one of our vents.

And it's a cool picture I'm doing curls. And you see the dumbbells at 35 pounds or something like that. You screwed up curls, dude. I it's a cool picture. I'm doing curls. And you can see the dumbbells at 35 pounds or something like that. You screwed up curls, dude. Yeah. I know. Oh my god. Some dude underneath is like, oh, yeah, you're making that face. But it's, you know, it's only 35 pounds. I'm like, he's really that hard. And I wrote underneath him. I'm like, dude, it's fucking, it's curls. Like nobody cares. There's certain exercises that matter. Curls is not one of them. Nobody, it's weird because everything for me,

like that is easy. I, so I, I make this face. So I was, I was reading bodybuilding magazines real young, 15, 16 years old. And I remember doing that to bodybuilders. I'd see the pros and they do posing pictures, you know, with a, you know, 40 pound dumbbell with her. They're like, hey, man, he damn, he's not that strong for it.

Not realizing that it's a fucking picture. Like, they're just posing for it or whatever. I had a good workout this morning, got up real early and hit my garage. I haven't worked out my garage for at least a week and put on a little classic rock. It's cold as shit. And every once in a while, I get that old man rage. You know what I mean? That old man, like I'm gonna fucking break some shit.

Yeah. And luckily it wasn't myself. I didn't break myself, so I feel good. Directed that to the weights. Yeah, did my post workout, 8, 9, 8, 8, a yoke meal with the cholesterol, just to freak everybody out. Yeah, that's a good time, man. Good workouts.

How's your training been, Justin? Good. Yeah, I've been getting a little angry myself lately. I think it's a good outlet for me. That's the thing, okay? So, where are you lifting most of the time right now? Mainly at my house. Oh, okay. Yeah, I actually just got that membership

over at the club sport, though, too, to kind of get my steam time in, you know? That's an important feature for me these days. I don't know, just I've accepted that. But yeah, no, I have been a little tense at the last few weeks. And so I just remember the old go-to is to just start getting after it.

You know, let's expend this unrest on the weights. Because I mean, that's why I always liked football. I always liked the contact sports. I always liked, I tried Moiti out, you know, these types of things. Because it's just, it brings me that peace again. Because I do have like spells where it's just like, man, where's this coming from? And it just builds up inside me and then I have to like, you know,

have a healthy outlet for that. So thank God for waiting. I feel like Justin's gonna be the biggest asshole old man, you know what I mean? When he's like 70 or 80. Yeah, it'll probably set it. You know why? Cause around that age, he'll be at a place

where he doesn't hold anything anymore and he just doesn't get from. Yeah, look, I mean, he's constantly struggling to maintain that, that keep it in. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I have this whole facade, I'm presenting to everybody. Pretty 75, he's like, I ain't got time to go lift no heavy ass weight, I'm just going

to be a dick. Yeah, that'd be easier. Yeah, this can yell at people, that'll back up. Throw a shit at people through the whole window and all that stuff. Yeah, good rad of you. Yeah, so yesterday I went to Whole Foods and I ran out of skinnying shit at people through the floor window and all that stuff. Yeah, good idea. Yeah. So yesterday I went to Whole Foods and I ran out of skinny dipped almonds at home

and I'm like, I want some fucking chocolate almonds. And I thought, well, Whole Foods should have, you know, they should have good options, it's Whole Foods. They do, don't they? They have chocolate almonds, but it's like, it's, first of all, it's like, you know, shiny chocolate. So it's like, you know what I'm talking about? We're just kind of smooth chocolate.

It's a lot of chocolate, not very much almond, at least in comparison to... Did you look at the back to see what they're, what they're no... No, it wasn't their bulk section. So I actually had... Oh, scooped it in. Yeah, I actually had a few free ones

before I decided to fucking forget it. Because they're just, it's candy. Yeah, I don't want to... It's a chocolate ball. Yeah. It's a little tiny almond. Yeah, dude, I'm not trying to eat a big, a bunch of chocolate. I want almonds. It's a chocolate ball. With a little tiny almond. Yeah, dude, I'm not trying to eat a bunch of chocolate.

I want almonds with some, a little bit of chocolate, hint or whatever. And it just reminds me of why skinny dipped is destroying everybody right now in that. I see them popping up everywhere. They were in Nordstrom's rack. I seen them in Target. Wait, Nordstrom's rack?

Yeah, weird. I was in line, I was picking some shoes up or something and I was in line at Nordsman's rack and Sure shit. They're skinny dipped in there. So they're all over the place. Oh, I got a thing you guys every time we do these live events People are just like you can go, you know steal some skin dip on Here and they like like flaunt them at me like I think that's my if he'd you like it? Adabloos That's all you guys

need you like an animal. That's all you guys. I can't wait till you start going to some of these videos. You people are throwing like speed it all in. It's just okay. I do love them. It's like, ah, what do you want from me? How dare you blame that on that? That's your fault.

Whatever. Yes. You always talk about it. That's hilarious. Yeah. Don't eat them all. Hell. Hey, did you guys see?

Have you guys watched the docuseries on Bill Gates yet on Netflix? I've seen the first episode. First episode. You do. Really good. Yeah, really good. Dude, that guy's a brilliant.

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And I thought that was like crazy. Like that's the way his brain works is like, oh for the first time, something happened where he was like stressed or something happened. I was like for the first time in his life, he wouldn't did something that was just to create distraction so he didn't have to think about what was going on the rest of the time.

He's like focused on learning or creating something or doing something. And I found that really fascinating. He also does something that I thought's really cool and he's done this for decades now, where one week out of the year, he has this fucking little tiny little shithole cabin out in the middle of nowhere

that he does seven days of silence by himself. He goes up there, he packs up like 20, 30 books that he wants to read and it's- He's a voracious reader. And in it's crazy. Oh yeah, crazy. And it's- He's a voracious reader. And in it's a crazy. Oh yeah, crazy. Wow. And it's literally like, it's nothing.

There's the amenities in the cabin. You can say you're just like the bare amenities that he has. And he sits at this little desk with a little window like facing like, I think these are like out there. Can't remember. But just, you know, it looks like Tahoe or something like that, but no one around him. And he spends seven days by, and he's been doing this for decades.

And it's like a schedule thing every year that's his time to really think deep. Well, here's the, here's the crazy thing about Bill Gates is he was so successful. Because people, I think a lot of people realize that Bill Gates, Bill and Melinda, his wife are two of the biggest philanthropists of all of history. They've donated more money than I think almost anybody else ever. Just combined. Just insane amounts of money. And that's all because he did such a damn good job in his business. Yeah, so like capitalism led to, cause people, that led to Bill and Melinda Gates

who now have combined, you're ready for this, you know how much they've donated total with their foundation? Dude, billions. 50, billion dollars. Yeah, him and Warren Buffett are like really good friends in this. What they've done, what they've done is incredible. Oh, it's insane. They've, they've, it's, it's, it blows

my mind that we, we, we look at people like that or say, you know, we, we demonize them because of how much money they make. The one percent or whatever. But yeah, look at what that can do. Right. You know, for the good. Oh, it's crazy. His, his, his organization alone is responsible for solving big problems in parts of the world where there are major issues I watched it you watched the one where they're trying to figure out I watched them all the sewer system Yeah, no, so it's unbelievable. Yeah, like and they they put up a lot of money to try and get people to and I didn't realize that was that Big of a problem that it was causing Yeah, I know that that makes perfect sense and it was great to see everybody

Innovating that direction at the same time. That was all led by him. Well, the crazy part is that when you think about how much money it costs to figure that out, like had he not done that, nobody would know. Nobody's gonna do it. None of the engineers say. It's too big a project. Yeah, all these, all of the engineering minds that it took to create that are so valuable

doing other things in the world that they would never stop to try and work on some project that they don't even know for sure they can solve. Unless he funded it like that. I think this is why I get so irritated with everybody being so divisive and so extreme is because when you were organized towards a centralized goal for good in philanthropy work, like solving a massive issue like it's

cancer, it's polio, it's what it ever it is, you get all the brightest minds together collectively, you know, you pull it, obviously you need a lot of resources, you know, so it's like, why not, you know, push our leaders in that direction instead of like, I don't like, you know what he says about this thing and that and the other and bullshit. It's like, we just get stuck in the Fagmire. I mean, and for me, when I see stuff like that, I just, I admire the sense of purpose.

You know, here's a man who, for all intents of purposes could have, you mean, obviously easily just told everybody, I'm done, I'm out and just lived his life quietly. He's got way more money than he could ever spend, even if he tried. And here he is working probably more than he did before he puts more time and effort and stress on himself because he's driven by this purpose to help people I think it's so I really hope one day I you know I could get to that point where I I've done whatever I need to do and I could say cool oh, cool, like now I can pick something just for the sake of it and say, okay, I want to fix that or I want to help that. No, it doesn't matter if it, you know, to be in that place would be a cool place to be.

Totally cool. Anyway, speaking of your documentaries and stuff, I was doing some reading on like fitness through the decades and something that I've known about, but I've done more reading on recently in particular, was the running revolution that happened in the US in the 70s and 80s. And a lot of people don't realize that, that before the 70s and 80s, you know, people would run for exercise,

but it wasn't like a thing. You know, I mean, it wasn't like a big deal. You didn't go outside and see. Yeah, you saw sat on Anchorman. Marui's like, everybody's yawging now. Yeah. I've just, I've heard them try and connect it to cocaine because of the size of my head.

I've heard people try and connect that. It's such a long story. It's such a cool, uh, no, no, no side effect to cocaine. You know, well, because it's, it's not so much be side effect from cocaine But from people that are trying not to do cocaine all the time and that becomes like an outlet because it stimulates a similar part of the Brain as as cocaine does and it happened in the 70s and 80s like that. No, that's hilarious

Yeah, I can't remember where I read that a lot of time. You know, maybe laugh when I said I was like oh, that's hilarious No, but so within the 70, in 1977, there was a book that was published, and I got it written down, I'll pull up the name of it. It was like the runners, it was the, oh, it was the complete guide, the complete book of running. And by James Jim Fix, 1977, so this book comes out and becomes a best seller. And it ushered in a running revolution

where something like between 1977 to 1985 or something like that estimated 25 to 35 million Americans just took up running because of this trend that was happening. It became cool. So it's like one of the first big fitness trends that kind of started happening right around then. And you had the explosion of running shoe companies that were, these shoe companies were not that big of a deal. And now all of a sudden you had Socini

and all these other companies that were specialized at specialized in running shoes. And people were just picking them up and I'm going to go out and I'm going to start jogging. It was like the way to work out in the 70s and 80s and I foresee another revolution on the brink now which I think is resistance training. I think we're prime for a similar kind of mass acceptance or deal. That's interesting. I don't know if I agree with that.

Oh, I do. Yeah, I mean, I hope you're right. I mean, I hope you're right. It's good for us if you're right. But I think there's something about like the things that are really easy, right? Like to get out and just go throw some headphones on and then pair sneakers on and go run.

You could have terrible form. Anybody can do it. Anybody can do it. And so the low barrier to entry, I think, low skill. Yeah, I think that really matters when things like that go viral or things go, turn out being like the sensation that millions of people are doing it. And my, I saw like aerobics like really followed that right after it, everybody's like in their home doing things.

Step aerobics, big M.U the interrobex, became huge. Yoga at one point became super popular and exploded like that. It did and yoga is also complex and requires an instructor a lot of times. I think resistance training in different forms. I think we're poised for an explosion, a revolution. It's almost there.

Like for the first time ever, you see now women entering the weight room like you never before. In fact, they make up probably half of the people. So, I know you didn't. Did you watch my night football this weekend or this week? I like how you see my watch. I know you did. How do you know I didn't watch it?

Yeah, it's just the, unless it was on the TV. And I've been adamant about watching Sundays. Doug, look up, maybe on YouTube, look up, mirror commercial. So I, so we talked about these companies, right? Meer and Tomino or the two brands that I'm familiar with, with the wall trainer, trainer. Yeah. All right. I tell you what, Meer's commercial was pretty fucking cool. Was it? Yeah. They did a pretty good job. Like I, I, I was not impressed with the original launch of both these brands. I thought, we'll see. But man, I saw, I saw it advertised

on Monday night football. So they definitely spent a pretty penny. I think there's something there, mainly because of what Peloton opened up. And that's that's great. Yeah. And that's mainly because it's like, okay, we have the technology now to create the experience. Everybody wants the experience. And that's something that, you know, you go into an orange theory, you go into like a, you know, one one of these soul cycles or whatever. That's been the big way it's gone viral. And now they're trying to re, they can recreate that by presenting these streaming classes

like in front of them doing something simple. Yeah, I want you guys, I know Doug hates when we watch things in the middle of the show, but I want you guys to watch it because I want to comment and talk about it because they did a good job of like connecting to, like to your friends, your friends and making it interactive. So at least the commercial to me did a good job in comparison to when they launched, when

they launched. That's a big benefit, by the way, if you can get, if you can pull in friends community and you can do it, I mean, that's what I'm saying. That was the selling part for me, and when I was watching, I was like, okay, this is smart. Like, if I can reach out and I can compete with friends, or I can just, that's like Peloton.

That's why Peloton, I feel like, did so well, is because they still, even though you're in your home by yourself, they found a way to create that community aspect. And I think they're trying to do the same thing with this. So we'll see. It makes a huge difference. I mean, it was, it was, I'd say, a good, I don't know, majority of the success of CrossFit was that they took weights and they turned it into a fricking group class, basically, that whole environment. And the group class is always do well at getting people going when it comes to fitness because that social component.

So I think that's a very smart place to invest your money, I guess, in fitness. The only problem I have with it is it's so fad based, you know, that is it going to really make a long-term impact? Yeah, Doug, look up, a mere, mere workout commercial. So in it should pop up. And it's about a mere, like a mere. Oh, mirror, am I, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or workout commercial. So, and it should pop up. And he spelled mirror. Like a mirror. Oh, mirror, M-I-R-R-R-O.

Wow, look at that. That is so cool though. I know, it's very cool. It's like a big ass iPad. You know what, if they have a porn app on that, I'm the thing will sell like crazy. Yeah, just, she thing will sell it crazy. Yeah, just Dirty thoughts

Yoga cardio strain trading all in it Wow I mean, it's cool how much is it cost? We did take selfie. So you like like an Instagram where you keep updated photos. Oh God. It's a clean UI they got. It's expensive. I'm assuming. Oh, yeah, it is like even more expensive peloton. I'm gonna guess. And peloton's ridiculously expensive.

Dude, the future is weird. What are they run, Doug? Do you know what does it show in there? Let me find out. I don't know. That's actually kind of interesting. It looks like brainwashing. That's very interesting. It looks super clean, right?

The UI looks badass. I think it's brilliant, okay? What does everybody do now on Instagram? You start your workout. You start everybody in two out of two. You got it, you got it, you got it. 1400. I mean, check him in, huh?

1400, no. Yeah, 1500 bucks. I mean, the price point, like when it comes to tech, people are willing to spend that much money. Yeah, that's actually not as much as I thought. Now, here's where the fucking old school trainer in me is, it's like, okay, 1,500 bucks, you can get a sick ass fucking gym in your house

for that much money, or you could go to a gym down the street and pay, you know, 50 bucks a month. Yeah, but then it's just gonna sit there and then put clothes on it. People wanna know what to do. And I think that's the problem they're solving with that. Well, the knock that I have right now is that

it's, you don't have any squat racks, you don't have a barbell, you don't have, like it's all body weight and all dumbbells. Yeah, you're only gonna get so far. Yeah, so that's the, that's it. But, you know, that being said, that being said, doesn't mean you can't have a great work. I like the Nintendo workout better than some of that.

But that's, oh really? Yeah, just only because it's body weight too, but it's incentivizing, yeah, exactly. It's more fun. Well, that being said, for the average person, body weight resistance training or a parodumbel, sure, they're not gonna be hitting PRs and, you know, doing crazy, but are they gonna get dramatic improvements

in their strength and metabolism and- Yeah, but nowhere at the same speed as somebody who- No, of course not, but again, when you're trying to take resistance training and make it- What does everybody want? Everybody wants results in as fast as you possibly can. If you want results and you want them as fast as you can,

I had this, somebody came up to me, a trainer from when we were at our last live event. And she's like telling me like, I have this lady who, she doesn't have barbells, she doesn't have this, she doesn't have that. She can only go to the gym one day a week, and then the other two days she can be at home doing bodyweight type stuff.

And she goes, can I still help her and build muscle? She wants to build muscle and be strong and after that. And I said, absolutely, she can. But you also need to be realistic with your clients. Like I think a mistake that I think sometimes trainers make is, of course they just want the client. And so they're like, yeah, I could do it. And you can.

But I think it's important to communicate the clients too, the goals they have, because here's what I would do all the time. Here's what I can do. I can only train one day a week inside the gym, the rest of the time I can do two days a week, body weight stuff. And then they'd be like to have this vision of this physique that they want to look. And then they would also be like, and I want to get

there as fast as possible. And it's like, OK, well, we could do this. We could definitely build a physique. Now, will it look just like this person you're showing me right now? Wow, they definitely look like they lift a lot of weight. You know, very consistently. Like, you got to be realistic with what they're trying to,

what they're trying to accomplish and the time they're trying to accomplish. So this is a, so I have a story on this. So I used to tell this to clients because I had an experience years ago with another client of mine who was gonna get her gall bladder removed. And she knew that I trained a lot of surgeons.

So she says, hey, can you check on doctor so and so and see if he's a good doctor because that's the guy who's slotted to remove my gall bladder. So I asked all my other surgeon clients because they all worked at the same hospital. And I could tell they didn't want to talk shit, you know? So you know what they said to me?

They said, oh, I said, you know, is doctors so and so good? One of my clients needs to get a call, blood removed. And they go, oh, well, he's actually one of the fastest surgeons. So I said, okay. So I told her, he's really fast. So imagine if you went to a surgeon and you said,

hey, I need this heart surgery and the doctor's like, no problem, I'm the fastest heart surgeon around. I'll get it done fashion, but fuck no, I don't want to work with you. I want to work with the guy or girl is going to do it the right way. Same thing with training, you know? Do you want to lose weight the fastest way

or do you want to do it the right way? Because doing it the wrong way means it's not going to be as effective, it's going to come back and then some at some point, it's going to feel like shit, you're not going to have long-term success. Why not do it the right way? And this attitude leads to, actually leads great to this next study I was going to bring up. People's attitudes towards speeding up their progress typically leads to behaviors that contribute to overtraining, right? They just, they overwork, they think, okay, I'm getting started, I need to lose 20 pounds,

I know more means more results. Yeah, I think I'll work out every day. You know, I'm gonna go super hard every day because that's gonna make it happen faster and more effectively. The truth is, we've talked about this time and time again, not true, the right dose is the best dose, more than that is not optimal, and we'll actually slow your progress down

and decrease the likelihood that you have long-term success. But besides that, they found that in the brain, they did a study on overtraining, and they took some athletes, and they overworked the shit out of them. And then they had them do tests to test their impulsivity. So they would do a test where they'd say, would you rather have?

Sure, that increased. Oh yeah, they were so much more impulsive. So they do test like, would you like $10 now or $50, three months from now? Or, you know, you know, they old study, eat the one marshmallow now or the three later, they had them, you know, they looked at their food choices, they looked at their choices without calling us up. And they found that the more over-trained the athletes were, the worse their impulsivity was. Wow, that's so interesting because there was also,

like I remember seeing another study about like a traumatic brain injuries and how that affected that impulsivity. Like it went through the roof, like in terms of like risky behavior, in terms of, you know, decisions where, yeah, they're eating more junk food and all that kind of stuff.

Yeah, so this part of the brain gets fatigued when you're super, super over-trained. What the more, the side that makes you think logically? Yes, the part of the brain that is the filter, I can't remember what they said it was, but was the filter for these impulsive tendencies? The brain gets fatigued. What a strip. Of course, right? No, right?

That's part of the central nervous system. Nobody talks about that. So then, so now think, right? That's part of the central nervous system. Nobody talks about that. So now think about it this way. Here you are, you're a person, you're trying to get fit, you're fucking training, you're overdoing it because you think it's gonna get you there faster. Not only does it now, not get you there faster

because you're not training properly, but now, how do you think you're diet? How hard is it gonna be for you to eat right when you're over-trained and you wanna fucking choose the donut for breakfast or the extra slice of pizza? Wow. Have you guys experienced this when you're over trained and you want to fucking choose the donut for breakfast or the extra slice of pizza. Wow. Have you guys experienced this when you're over? Yes, I just promotes that restrict binge, which it speaks to probably why so many competitors,

because I remember one of the things when we were when I was competing, how many competitors over train. I mean, that's just the formula. What they all, most of them are really good at is the discipline of restricting for a period of time and training like a fucking madman. You know, they just, I'm gonna fucking go in there, do cardio twice a day, train every day for an hour and a half like, and I have this discipline to have.

Talapia and fucking rice and broccoli for fucking fine while their impulsivity urges like, like, increase substantially, but they're fighting it. Right. Which, you know, and that was to me, what I saw, what I saw was, you know, and kudos to them, they have the ability to have this discipline for three months or four months at a time.

But this explains a lot of why most of them all binge hard afterwards, because it's an eruption. It's like you were, you you were you were burning the candle at both ends for so long and it speaks to the study you're talking about Sal too and that that part of the brain's probably so fatigued. Once you get down with that show, fuck it and you just go bananas. It's not walls are down. Yeah, it's not unheard of for a girl, a female competitor to gain 20 to 30 pounds and like a few weeks. Not even a few weeks. So first week. Yeah, some of them in a week.

Yeah, yeah. You know, and think about what it does to your body. And we have studies now that show that not only did your body gain that body fat back, but then it tries to improve its ability to store calories. So you actually add fat cells. Well, the part that I thought was interesting. See, make it at worst.

Whenever we talked with Lane and Lane was talking about that we've found too that that's the worst time to do that. That's what I was just saying. Yeah, you're most vulnerable at that time and your body puts on way more body fat that you don't get rid of. You add fat cells and getting rid of fat cells you basically don't. So now you've increased your capability or your capacity or your efficiency at storing calories.

So now not only did you get fat fast, but now your ability to get fat is just got better. So you've just made your- This is why too we see in the competitive world too. I think why a lot of competitors struggle, show two, show three, show four, show five. Like every time, if you're a competitor listening, you've probably experienced this,

where it's harder to get as lean as you were last time, following the same stuff. I don't know how many times I talked to peers that it would be like, I don't fucking get it this time. And they have, I forget they have a term for it that they use. It's a bro term. Yes, yes, that's enough.

I'm trying to think like burnout show, show, I don't remember. And a lot of them will just like take off a season or a half a season because they're they're get this whatever this term is But that's what it really is is that you've you have you've couldn't you've continued to do this cut really hard than bench cut really hard than bench and Of course about it your body does not want to get that lean At all it fights it and so in order to get that lane, you take extreme measures, oftentimes taking drugs to help your body, lots of cardio,

severe calorie restriction. And if you do this repeatedly, your body, because it doesn't want to get that lane, it gets better at not getting that lane. So think about that, right? Your body literally is like, okay, this is happening to us. We need to get better at fat storage,

because this person's going through these periods of starvation, we're going to better at fat storage because this person's going through these periods of starvation, we're going to become more and more efficient each time. Oh, and it looks like after these periods of starvation, we get this abundance of food. Let's improve our ability to store that fat or that those calories.

So that next time, because we know this person is going to starve again, they're not going to get, they're not going to be in such a precarious position. So you end up literally training your, but it's what you do. You're training your body to become fatter, easier, and to get leaner harder. And my theory is the harder you do that,

the more extreme you are, the more the body rejects or responds to that, right? Totally. Yeah, the harder you restrict, the more it's like, okay, we definitely need to hold onto this shit, which is why I think you, the biggest mistake they make is not trying to be on that, which is why I would always say the fucking, you know, what I've said a million times on this show, it's like my goal is always to do the least amount possible to elicit the most amount of change because of that exact reason.

Body's always trying to adapt. I show it extreme one way, it's gonna try on an adapting stream the other way to counter the next time I fucking restrict all that stuff. So the last thing I wanna do is go to those extreme limits because I'm only making it that much harder for myself down the road. And those are long lasting effects. It's not like, oh, I just did it last month.

I'll bounce back in a month or two. Some people it could take as long as years. So, you know, be very careful if you entered that space. Anyway, what was the big hubbub about this college football players' California? Oh, yeah, in California. And you'll see Gavin Newson passing this. So I just saw this, Justin.

I didn't get a chance to read much on it. I know Jackie sent it over an article. I had people DM me about it. There's already a, you know, a spurred conversation on the forum about it and people are really, you know, hyped about it. There's already a, you know, spurred conversation on the forum about it and people are really, you know, hyped about it. I mean, officially passed, I mean, did they, yeah, they passed in California,

but it's waiting to see how, basically, how the NCAA responds. And then, from my understanding, like, then they're gonna kind of sort of play this out in terms of, they're worried that a lot of these schools like won't be eligible then to go into the playoffs go into these bowl games and things like that because they might block them because of allowing them so what happened was now they've they've advocated for the student athlete to be able to hire an agent and get endorsement deals. So now they can get paid.

So they can get paid. Because that was against the rules before. Yeah, and the argument is that every student on campus already has the ability to create a YouTube channel to monetize their likeness, their whatever. Like they have the ability to make money as also being a student and going through that. Why are you condemning the athletes

because of this old structure you have in place in terms of where the business is interesting? So this is like in regards to things like YouTube and so I'm taking on endorsements from like a shoe company where this doesn't mean the colleges are gonna pay the athletes to play football. No, this is all endorsement, which is brilliant. Now I like that.

Yeah, I like that. I'm not, I've never been a big fan of the colleges thinking, because then what's the difference between college and pro if you do that, if you do it that way, right? I think you can, I think what you can, you can see that, if I'm not mistaken, and we should look this up, I wonder if this includes colleges.

I wonder if colleges then will find a loophole and be able to find ways to pay people. And so this is what this is what my brain is. Of course. If you're recruiting like a Zion, right? So if you got that kind of a kid, he's already got, you know, 500,000 subscribers. I'm Duke University. This is before we're saying before Zion came there. I'm Duke University. I see Zion. He's already we're saying before Zion came there. I'm Duke University. I see Zion. He's already a fucking phenom in high school. He's already got, you know, a half a million followers on YouTube.

It would be who you to say. I have a, I'm Duke University. I have a relationship with Apple. I have a relationship with Nike. I have a relationship with, you know, Spalding. I got a whatever. Fucking producers. That will like create this whole thing.

I rub, I rub elbows with them and maybe I donate money to spulding and maybe that's why the NCAA, my Ky Bosch, this whole thing because they might say, this is only gonna muddy the water for us. It's opening up a can of worms, no doubt. I mean, the whole infrastructure is gonna change and then plug, they're trying to wrap their brain around. If we allow this, or we do a hard stance against it,

like they're kind of weighing both those options out. What's that on? I mean, I'm in a really, I don't know where, I stand on this. Because I like it, I think people should be open to, I think associations should be free. If you wanna pay me and I wanna accept your payment

and it's voluntary, I think it's not a problem. Now here's why I think Gavin Newsom passed it, because I don't accept your payment and it's voluntary, I think it's not a problem. Now, here's why I think Gavin Newsom passed it because I don't like that guy, but this is why I think it's something I like he's done. Well, here's what I think I'm thinking through Gavin Newsom's corrupt brain. And I think he's trying to make college colleges in California give them an advantage over other colleges because if California colleges can now do this, we're gonna start attracting more talent. They're gonna wanna come here.

Berkeley, USC, some of the major schools like fought him against that bill, being passed. Well, because they probably, the institution of it is making so much fucking money. That, and I think that it's gonna make it very difficult to like what's sal brought up, like how are you now gonna? How is it if the idea is that trying to keep these kids from getting paid by their in college and that's what they're trying to to limit right and we see this happening all time where

Schools are getting blacklisted because of because of it and it everybody knows it goes on right But you open up the opportunity for them to get paid through things like YouTube and channels like that and take endorsements, then it's going to be really hard to track where that money is coming from and how the schools are may not be using that to manipulate and still recruit now openly recruit them. So it's kind of like if you're going to go that route, you may as well open the whole flood gates and say just allow them to buy and pay for athletes, just like you were in the NFL or the NBA. The current model, I don't know,

for me being an athlete, like going through like a real, like, you know, like a smaller school version of what these guys are dealing with, they'll actually be making real money, you know, like after something like this, we'll get endorsement deals because they know they have a chance of going to the pros, but that chance is so slim.

People don't understand how impossible it is to get to the next level. They're putting their body on the line. They're sacrificing a lot of their education while they're in school. It's a joke. Like that whole argument of them being able to get a college education, they do not get into college education, unless they're like just like completely like a robot, like on campus, like trying to study and then do like, they own you.

Like it literally I couldn't go out and do anything other than what I was doing like for practice and studying film and then like half-ass version of what I could have studied in class. The interesting part is there's gotta be a ton of pressure coming from also the NBA and the NFL because now that if you open up The doors to potentially pay these young athletes now you're a direct competitor with us right now We're we're sisters we're sisters we're sister companies like you you're a farm system for our company

And we we make the big fucking money I mean you may colleges are already making tons of money and that's like it's like fair play You're. You're making a ton of money right now. But and then when we get them, we're gonna make even more money off of them, opening the doors for the college to do that. Now you're dipping into. And it's a lot of potential cronies and it's a, it's a very interesting, you know, it's a, interesting situation that that we're in and knowing what the right, I mean, I think it's very simplistic to just say, oh, we should just pay them, like without really thinking about all the repercussions of that.

Just like I think it's just simplistic to say, don't pay them either. I think it's, Well, if we stop trying to control people, if we just stop thinking about what, we gotta do this because it's better for the whatever, stop trying to control people. If the kid wants to make money and someone wants to pay them and it's better for the whatever. Stop trying to control people. If the kid wants to make

money and someone wants to pay them and it's voluntary and everybody agrees, then fine. That's the that's rice. That's rice stand. Fine. Go for it. You know, instead of us trying to control everybody mold everybody. Look, it works for them. It works for you. You like that? You like that deal? You want to pay that kid? Okay, here you go. You guys are cool. What the hell do I have to do? Why do I why do I got to jump in and tell you what you can and can't do when it's all voluntary? You know I'm saying it's all nobody's getting hurt go for it. Yeah, I don't know. It's interesting. Well, and now you can monetize your yourself on social media. That's you know, I don't know why I didn't think about this. You know, I saw on that show It was an undisputed I think I said undisputed last time and I wasn't that right. Is it uninterrupted? Is I don't know?

I don't know undisputed. That's what it is right LeBron James, the one I wasn't a big fan of. Yeah, maybe. He signed the bill on there. So he came on that show. Oh, that's right. Gavin Newsing was there with LeBron James. He made a big deal out of, yeah, that. Yep. So I don't know, dude. We'll see how this plays out. Yeah, it's going to be interesting, but I have a feeling that the NCAA is going to kibach it, say, now. Of course. Yeah, I'm it's gonna be interesting, but I have a feeling that the NCAA is gonna co-bosh it say now of course Today's calls brought to you by Max and a ballick if you're looking to maximize your overall muscle and strength Maths and the ballick is the perfect place to start with a full 30 day money back guarantee there is absolutely zero risk

So what is you waiting for go to my Comican started today Our first question is from JP 94 Can you guys talk about lifts that help improve the bench squat and deadlift? Good question. So other lifts that help the bench squat and deadlift. Now one thing you want to you want to keep in mind is obviously the best lifts to improve your bench squat and deadlift are going to be the bench squat and deadlift. There's the what is it? The rule of specificity. Most of the adaptations and strength and performance

that you get are directly, can be directly applied to the thing that you're doing. So you get really, really good at riding a bike. You'll gain stamina for other things, but most of the- I believe it's actually a law, the law of specificity. Is it the law of specificity? Yeah, so this happens with fitness.

So I'll say this before we get into other exercises, one of the best things I have ever done to get those specific lifts better besides doing more of those lifts is using progressive resistance tools like chains and bands. Game changers. I mean, I added, I don't know, 20 or 30 pounds

on each of those lifts when I finally figured out how to incorporate bands. Now, can we talk a little bit about where you think the minimum dose of those exercises should be in a week if you're trying to improve them before you start? This is what I see. I hear questions like this a lot. And then let's say we say, oh, we're doing dumbbell presses is also going to help your bench

press. And then if I were to look at somebody's programming, you know, because they heard that, oh, dumbbell presses are going to help that you've got bench one day a week, you've got dumbbell press on the day and then you got, you got like flies. And it's like, if you want to get better at your bench, you want to be pinching more than one time a week. For sure. I would say 100%. I would say two days a week minimum as much as three or four days a week in my experience training people. So that's the point I wanna make is that even though we're gonna talk about other things

that can complement these things, you definitely, it's just like, it's no different than the way we would talk to an athlete who says, I wanna get better at soccer, I wanna get better at football, what exercises should I do? And then we go, oh, you should squat, you should do this, you should do that.

And then they stop playing soccer as much to do all those exercises. You'll actually go the other direction. Nothing's gonna make them better at soccer than playing more soccer. do this, you should do that, and then they stop playing soccer as much to do all those exercises. You'll actually go the other direction. Nothing's going to make them better at soccer than playing more soccer. That's what I think the direction you're going, I would be my initial thought in terms of like segmenting or like taking apart, you know, like some of those lifts. Like if I'm going to take, where's the biggest sticking point for me? Is it, you know, at the bottom

of the left, is it, is it where, as I say, if I'm bench pressing and I can't get that initial press off once I bring it all the way down, like that's something I wanna address with either an isometric exercise or something else like a variable resistance, like where it's a little bit lighter there,

but then I can increase the load and so I can transition into that a little bit lighter there, but then I can increase the load and so I can transition into that a little bit more effectively. So to that point, I also like, so I would just bench squat and deadlift more, but then I would play with how I bench squat and deadlift. For example, there'd be a day every week that's like working on my grinding strength. This is like, I'm heavy, I'm going heavy

and I'm challenging my strength on one day. Another day I'm going very slow and I'm challenging my strength on one day. Another day, I'm going very slow and controlled. Very slow tempo, controlling the weight. Perfect. And then another day, I'm speed. Another day, I'm going really light, and I'm explosive, and I'm going speed. And I'm doing that with all three of these lifts.

So I'm working on tech movements. Yes, same movements. Same movements. Same movements. All barbell, all the same, but I'm working technique one day in control. Another day I'm working grinding in power, another day I'm working speed, and then incorporating tools like salosang, like chains and bands to mess with the strength curve of those movements.

To me, those things alone will probably improve your bench squat and dead then searching for other exercises that have carry over into that. Totally, a lot of strength, a lot of strength, when you, not talking about general strength, I'm talking about strength as applied to specific physical pursuits, a lot of its skill. And skill comes from practicing,

consistent and constant practicing of that lift, how to maximize your leverage, how to maximize your control and your power output. And so doing the lifts frequently, even if it's not heavy, is gonna make you better. Basically, here it is in a nutshell, even if you don't get any bigger muscles or your muscles don't contract any harder.

So you're not getting any stronger generally, but you just get better at squatting, you just get better at squatting, You just get better at squatting. You're gonna squat more weight. I'll use Adam as a great example. Adam is, by no means nearly as big as the biggest that he's ever been. He competed for five years or four years,

was on gear for a long time. Big, muscular dude. Arguably can squat now as much as he did back then, if not more, at times during his career And it's because you're squatting better not because your muscles are bigger right or necessarily stronger You just got better. So practicing the skill is a big a big component now that all being said if you want Exercises that tend to benefit those I'll speak from experience and I'll start with the squat For me one of the things that helped me the most

with my back squat, where I noticed a lot of carryover besides squat variations like other, like box squats and stuff like that, split stance exercise. Well, Bulgarian split squats, we had one of the best carryovers to my squat. When I talk about the, you talk about the improvement of my squats since competing days and stuff, doing, getting good at Bulgarian split squats and getting improvement in my squats since competing days and stuff,

doing, getting good at bulk hearing splits quads and getting strong at them and then going and doing, being able to plant both feet on the ground after you got really good at one foot being planted on the ground, boy, you'd mix it up. Well, on that, yeah, in that respect, like looking at unilateral type of exercises for their, their benefits in terms of like addressing maybe where there was a bit of an imbalance or breakdown. Yeah, breakdown, a compensation that may occur is very useful information. And so to be able to incorporate that,

and then also build more stability around the joint. So that helps to address that a lot of times. So I love like dumbbell bench in terms of bench. Like, either both are just one. And really that's because there's that added element, that added variable now where I have to do a lot more stabilizing in terms of where the load is pulling me

in a lot more direction. So I agree so much to do that. If I were to pick my three exercises to compliment each one of these, it would be all the unilateral stuff. So it would be dumbbell bench press to compliment the barbell bench press. It would be a Bulgarian split squat to compliment my squat and it would be a single leg deadlift with dumbbells

to compliment my deadlift. You get good at barefoot or in flat shoes and deadlifting on one leg on the ground. I'm going to put it on the ground. I'm going to put it on the ground. I'm going to put it on the ground. I'm going to put it on the ground. I'm going to put it on the ground. I'm going to put it on the ground. I'm going to put it on the ground. I'm going to put it on the ground. I'm going to put it on the ground. I'm going to put it on the ground.

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is gonna make a huge difference. Even if you have a little bit, it'll still improve. Yeah, for me, bench, one, two exercises I noticed contributed heavily to my strength in my bench. It was in any incline press, just because I neglected those for a long time. So as I got strong with my incline press, I got way more stable, stable on my flat bench.

And then the other one was close grip bench presses. At one point, I got really, really good at a close grip bench press. And then going to a regular bench press which is so much stronger. For the squat lunges, any type of a lunge, whether it's a walking lunge, a back step lunge, or even a Bulgarian split stance squat,

just having the torsion on the pelvis, where one leg is behind, one leg is in front, you really notice if you have any differences between the right and left-hand side. And I noticed that when I got good at those and I go do my squat, I was just more stable. I was way more stable, more secure, and I was able to generate more power. Now for the deadlift, interesting enough, I am noticing a lot of carryover from hip thrust. Believe it or not, hip thrust is actually giving me a lot of carryover from hip thrust. Believe it or not, hip thrust is actually giving me some pretty amazing carryover on my deadlift. And partially,

I think this is because I never did hip thrust heavy, never. I've done them as correctional work, but I've never really trained them consistently with a lot of weight. And what I'm finding with my deadlift is I'm just I'm pulling with more strength and power, especially when I start to get to that midpoint of the deadlift from the difference. Well, it makes the most sense because you when you're in a hip thrust, when you're working against gravity, that that initial getting the bar up off the ground. I mean, it takes all that that glute explosion right to get off the ground. I mean, it takes all that that glute explosion

right to get off the ground where deadlifting, because there's a lot of leverage involved, you can feel back, you can feel hamstring. And so you putting all that, and the glute is the strongest part of our lower half. So you putting a lot of focus on the getting those glutes to fire at the bottom early. I would imagine it's gonna have good carryover

in your squat too. Yes, I think that's where the real value in that exercise is the carry-over to those big movements. I've never programmed it to where I put, so I'm curious, I'm watching you as you're going through it right now, because I know this is probably the most you've ever hipped thrusting.

I'm never, yeah, I'm hipped thrusting at least once a week, but probably more like twice a week right now, and only to use the Nautilus hip drive machine or I'll do a traditional barbell hip thrust And I'm really surprised at how strong I'm getting at the hip thrust I mean I can put and not to brag by the way I think it's so stupid when people post how much weight they're looking at you It's so ridiculous To stop bragging on that, nobody cares. Do the rocks like like posting that now. You know why? No, really? You know what it is.

I'll tell you why. I'm experiencing this because you can get really strong at it. So it looks impressive. That's why it's just like a leg press. Like a leg press. Yeah. Exactly. Look at all the way that I can do on the leg. I know a lot of people like to put that much into, you know, two inches of range of motion, but anyway, I'm definitely noticing a carry over on my deadlift because my deadlift was very back. For me at least, I'm a very back dominant lifter. I have really, really strong hands.

I have a really, really strong back. My lower back is incredibly strong. And so that's where I get a lot of my strength for the deadlift, but what I'm finding is I'm getting the hip drive now because of the hip thrust. So that's where I get a lot of my strength for the load, for the, for the deadlift, but what I'm finding is I'm getting the hip drive now because of the hip thrust. So that's another, another good one. But, you know, if you, here's the other thing I want to keep, you want to keep a mind. If you can identify any type of a mobility or imbalance in yourself, which is very different

from person to person. So you may have, here's a big one is this one. Actually, I can't even believe it. I mentioned this one. This is a big one. Oftentimes when I would get clients who would come to me who'd want to improve their strength and to lift like the deadlift, you know where the weakest

link would be in the stabilizer muscles of the rotator cuff. And I would have them do rotator cuff exercises and they'd add like 15 pounds of the bench rest, like in a week or two, just because they're not realizing that their shoulder was so unstable that their body wouldn't let them push anymore. Then we would do like, basically.

Because they have to compensate around that. Yeah, and we would do basic, you know. It's a loss of force. Yeah, you know, external rotation, exercise. And then they'd go bench and like, wow, 10 more pounds on my bench or whatever. So that's another one. If you have any mobility or issues or imbalances in your body and you go do mobility work and you work on the range of motion and connecting to them You'll find that your especially fits individualized because you know

I can sit on the podcast and list all the different mobility movements But it's really depends on the individual and if you have a program like prime pro You can actually take the test and find out what area you need to work on once you figure that out work on those And then you'll see improvements not just in your bench squat and deadlift, but in all the other lifts. And green. Next question is from where's my soul? Thoughts on an Olympic lifting inspired phase of training,

including things like power cleans, push presses, high poles, clean poles, penley rows, et cetera, for muscle and strength games. So we've incorporated all but one of those, right? In our program. We haven't done clean cleans. That's it. We've done high polls. We've done everything.

We've done everything else. So they didn't mention snatch. So yeah. So power cleans are the only thing. And honestly, it's there, it would be maybe the next one we may include. And it's just because the general population teaching it just takes a lot of. It's very high skill. It's all those movements are high skill.

Power cleans for sure are snatches way up there. So I think it's incredible. If you have good technique, Olympic lifting is fucking awesome. And if you are at a point where you can actually do Olympic lifts with good form, one of the things that I have found, and that was something that was kind of cool, like the overhead squat that I can do now.

I couldn't do that just two, three years ago. And what I have found by making sure I incorporate that occasionally in my routine, it kind of keeps me mobile. And I like that about Olympic lifts. Like you've got to be hyper-mobile and strong to do a lot of these lifts, but the fear that I have of giving someone the green light on this and not knowing who's asking this question

is that in my two decades of training clients, I can count on one hand how many clients were in a place to do a limp. Yeah, you got to have stellar movement. And I mean, that's nothing to balk at. Like, it doesn't matter, you know, whether or not, like if you go through all these strength phases, you get really strong.

Like, this is a completely different animal to approach. It's the sport of lifting weights. It's not like you're like, oh, I've been lifting weights for five years, I'm strong. I can do all these now. No, you can't. You got to practice and learn them for. Is it power lifters?

Like, they're going to fucking suck at these exercises and that's that's just because it's a completely different approach. It's it you have to have the ability to to be loose and in and flow with with the bar in a sense like create the the optimal bar path and then move your body around that, but still have that same ability to generate the type of force that like a power lifter can on command. So it's like the combination of, you know, your yogi guy that you make fun of as a power lifter with the power lififter, but now harmoniously, making the symphony out of that together. And it's a really bizarre thing,

but that's why it's revered to me, like these movements, they don't get enough, they're not put up enough in terms of being unapproachable. You really have to do your work to get to that level. It's the pinnacle. Totally. If a barbell squat was a 10 in terms of technical difficulty, an Olympic lift would be like a chance to be a hundred.

Yeah. It's like 10 times and a squat takes a long time to get good at. So that being said, if you're an appropriate person to do these exercises, so you're fit, you've got no joint pain, you've got good mobility, and you approach them appropriately in the sense that you practice them, you learn the technique and the skill, these exercises can be total game changers.

It's probably. It really can. It's awesome. It's a very small percentage of people, though. Again, 10 years to 20 years now, most of training clients, and I can count on one hand. How many people were ready for this?

Now, you can gain a lot of the benefits of the explosiveness that comes from these movements with exercises that are easier to learn, not easy, but easier to learn, like a kettlebell swing. A kettlebell swing is a great way to learn or utilize explosive hip-hing, way less technical than the Olympic lifts. Still technical, still takes a lot of time to learn how to do it properly, but just it's a lot easier. A push press, you know, if you have good technique, good form and you practice it, you know, easier to learn.

Penlay row, easier to learn than the classic Olympic lifts, but there's definitely a place for explosive lifting with advanced lifters who approach it properly. If you do it the right way, you are gonna gain some muscles. I would wanna see a good squat, a good deadlift, and a really good overhead press, and really good mobility before I would want one of my clients. Sure, there's definitely a hierarchy of that.

I wanna see those things. If we have squatted enough times, you've got a really pretty squat, we've pushed press or we've done shoulder overhead press, enough times you've got a really good overhead press, you've got a really good looking deadlift and I know your mobile, you have good ankle mobility, good hip mobility, good shoulder mobility,

fucking A, let's do some Olympic lifts because this would be a fun person. And then even then, we're starting with the stick. You know, we're starting with a stick and now working technique before we start to load the bar and then we progress and move from there. A normal person who's in the gym just working out that, you know, I hate to say this, but fucking all of us are fucked up, man. Most people sit at desks all day long or on computers all day long.

We've got all these imbalances and issues going and then going into Olympic lifts before you've really mastered some of the core movements and worked in address mobility, not a fan of them. No, bro. It's like going, it's like entering into a formula one race when you never run out of driver car. You know, it's a whole different animal. It takes a lot more skill and it can get real dangerous. Yeah. car, you know, it's a whole different animal, it takes a lot more skill and it can get real dangerous. Yeah. Next question is from Thunderbolt. I have a detached garage and I turned it into a gym. I'm in the northeast and the winders are rough. My garage has no heat. Are there any dangers as far as injuries when working out and freezing temperatures? Oh, I love this question. A first and foremost, training in...

It's like Rocky, a training in... Yeah, we're for Rocky. It's freezer, we're for Rocky. Oh, yeah. Boom, the boss boss boss. Oh man, the scene where he's fucking jogging up the mountain and he's, oh, he's droggled. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, here's the thing. Are there risks associated with training in more extreme temperatures, whether it be heat or cold, definitely. With heat, you can get, you know, you can overheat, you can become dehydrated, you can pass out with cold. The central nervous system tends to tighten things up. Injuries like muscle poles and strains tend to be more common, of course, in extreme conditions.

You know, you could, you could get hypothermia or whatever. But here's the deal. If you're okay, if you treat it with a lot of respect, if you go outside in the freezing temperature and you're bundled up and you start to peel things down as you warm up, if you wear gloves, so you don't freeze your hands to the bar, actually had a client who did that once when I was a kid. Lift, try to lift weight. For his hands.

And no, he hurt his hands because the bar was so cold, and you know, especially if you sweat and you get sweat stuck to cold metal, not a good thing. That's interesting. But if you treat it all, you know, very carefully, you're not going to hit your best PRs, you're not going to have necessarily your best workouts, but you are going to train your body to build some grit. Fuck yeah. And, you know, the body's ability to acclimate to temperature.

It's a muscle, just like your biceps and your triceps, and you can get better at it by training this way. And some of my most fondest memories of working out are all revolved around working out and hot weather out in my backyard in California, out in the sun, having to take my shirt off, having to pour water on my cell phone and working out. Those were some of my absolute favorite workouts. So there are some risks, you gotta treat it. You gotta be smart about it.

Yeah, it's been a little bit of time warming up, right? I think there's a lot more value to this, this is where it does make sense. Like you see people that do like the generic warm up when they come in the gym. That's perfectly temperature, right? Like they go in and they do the 10 minute warm up, like you used to have your clients do.

This has value to that. Like if you're, it's fucking, you's fucking you know 10 below here in your garage you can see your breath like getting a nice little 10 minute warm up and getting the heart rate going and getting your body temperature up and then getting into your exercise makes total sense to me. Yeah I'm trying to think I've this well you played football. Yeah. What about when you played football they don't fucking cancel games from it.

And there's this one time and and I've definitely been thrown outside to lift weights in extreme conditions too, just because our coach was kind of a dick sometimes and was like, you guys need to bear it and deal with it. And half a football is like that mental discipline in that. I can overcome all these obstacles, whatnot. So I remember vividly, there was this one time. So we practiced sometimes just with our shoulder pads

on or helmet, but we were shorts. And so this is sort of like light contact kind of day, like you do drills and stuff, but like it's getting close to game week. And so we're outside and the weather was fine. It was like, I want to say like, you know, 65, something little brisk. And all of a sudden, like a weather front comes in, lightnings, all the stuff, hail started to go, which the lightning stopped. We don't have to cancel

practice only because of lightning, because that was a risk. But it started to hail and then quickly turned into like freezing winds and the wind chill Like I can't even tell you like that's the coolest I've ever been in my entire life It felt like it's how you lost your left nipple Yeah poor lefty man, it suffered the the cause there where we're outside in shorts. And we're just like, that was the only time where I'm like, I'm not much of a complainer, but like I was like, this is ridiculous.

Like can we go get some under a hammer or a hundred something? You know? And like the coach is out there and he's in like a t-shirt in shorts and just like loving it. Like looking at us and I like, sticking face in it. You know, stick your face in it. And I'm just like loving it, like looking at us and I like, sticking face in it, you know, sticking face in it. And I'm just like, I don't know about that dude.

I'm dying. He made us stay an extra hour of practice just to kind of like prove a point that the human body can withstand the elements like that. So again, like there's another level, I think there's value in that, kind of like the Dr. Andy Galpin's sort of mentality where it's like sometimes,

you can push the envelope to see that there is, you know, more capacity, more ability to, you know, get through, you know, more of this extreme. And I think it really did like, it sucked, but it was good. There's something to be said about the mental toughness that you develop through resistance training. Even if you work out in a climate controlled gym,

that's part of your training. Part of the training that you get is you get acclimated to pain, you get acclimated to struggle. You know, when you get a new client who's never lifted weights and they're like, oh my God, I can't do anymore, but you as a trainer who I know, I almost, I could always come down to the rep. I know exactly how many more reps a person has,

especially after I've trained him for a month or so. I could tell, like, oh, you actually have five more reps. People, I can't do anymore. And I'd be like, you have like 10 more reps. They're just not used to the pain. They don't have that mental toughness anymore. And that gives you a lot of value in everyday life. Like you go train in the gym, you lift heavy things,

you get stronger. You know, life doesn't seem as hard when you go do things in everyday life. It just makes you tougher. So throwing an element like this, I don't know about you guys, but for me, when I can see my breath, it's cold and I can see it, or if I'm sweating so much

because it's hot, I get another gear that turns on. And all of a sudden makes me, I don't know, I thrive a little bit. You swear anger helps. Yes, and you have those better workouts, you know? So, I'll say, you know, are there risk for injuries? Do a proper warm-up, be careful, put on a coat,

or whatever, but, now, man, it's gonna make you tougher. Get it. Next question is from Kelly Ryan. I would love to hear your point of view put on a coat or whatever, but now man, it's gonna make you tougher. Get it. Next question is from Kelly Ryan. I would love to hear your point of view on private school versus public school. Oh, so I picked this question because this last week, you got one question, right?

Yeah, I had a question in my, and I got a ton of DMs afterwards, and I basically told everybody that was DMing me, go put it on the claw, but at one point we'll address this and before we answer this question off air, it's all looked at me and it was just like please be careful when you answer this question. And I don't I don't understand what that means. So he never did. I'm just gonna say how I'm careful. First of all, because it's politically charged. It is, I know, and I'm kidding.

I know why he said that, because for some reason, people take this so personal, if you decide that you're adamant about putting your kid in private school, like I'm shaming all public school teachers and all people that go to public schools, I went to a public school. My mom is a public school teacher. My best friend is a public school teachers and all people that go to public schools, I went to a public school. My mom is a public school teacher.

My best friend is a public school principal. It's, I'm not shaming it. And by the way, all of them, if they could put their kids through private school would. And it's simply this. It's, they're in a community. And here's another thing too. There, yes, there are public schools that are out there

that probably outperform certain private schools. There's probably exceptions to the rule. There's probably some place in the country where this public school is right down the street from some private school and the students there excel more and it does well. There's always exceptions to every rule. So what I'm saying isn't like, you know,

fact that this is a rule across the board everywhere. It's just that for the most part, you in a private setting, you have smaller classrooms where the teacher has more attention to the students. The curriculum seems to stretch the students further. The things that they can offer to the students like programs, like robotics and things like that, don't always exist in schools, like public schools.

And then I'm gonna say some shit that's gonna sound elitist and somebody's gonna fucking get all but heard about it But here's the thing I have a lot of people that I'm the age of now That went to schools like Bell or man and these these very nice private schools here And then I have a lot of friends that have gone to public schools and one of the things that I noticed on my my friends That went to these private schools is you know a lot of them ended up with some really fucking big jobs and their friends all got hooked up with these really big jobs. And there's a selfish part of me

that wants to put my son through a school where he's connected to potentially other kids that go on to do great things for that relationship. And that's just if I'm in a position to do that and I can afford to do that, like I want to do that. And I didn't go to one, I went to a public school, I made it all right. And so I don't think that my son wouldn't be okay if he went to public school, but part of why I worked so hard and I waited until my late 30s to have a child was because I wanted

to provide that opportunity for him. And it doesn't mean that I'm not aware that there's probably spoiled brats that go to those schools and kids that there's probably a higher education else school. There's probably a higher addiction to things like pills, like I'm sure, I'm sure all that stuff exists. I don't look at it for those things,

I look at it for the ability for relationships and connections and for the education that's more one-on-one with the teachers and I just personally want to be able to send my kid through it. No, no, here's it all boils down to this for me because I've put my kids in private schools and this is what it boils down to. I have a choice. I have more choices in private schools. Public school doesn't give you a fucking choice. You got to send your kid to the school. That's in your district. You can't choose to go to a different school. It's one of the most unequal things that you'll ever find in this country. If you want to talk about disparity, wealth disparity, not shit, public school. Go to a public school in some of the hardest

neighborhoods in this country and compare them to the public schools in Beverly Hills over here in Los Gatos, California or Palo Alto. And what you'll see is total different, completely different. Now I wish it's a public service. Everybody pays taxes for. Most people pay tag, not everybody, but we all pay taxes and know it's public service. I wish parents had a fucking choice. You know, if I'm a single mom and my kids are, they got to go to school at this fucking shitty ass high school over here in this neighborhood that I can't afford to move anywhere else, I wish I could take my tax money that they're because the school receives a tax money for my kid. My kid goes to that school, the state pays them

money for that school. And by the way, the average public school in California gets something like 12 of $14,000 a year per student, okay? 12 to 14, some of them even more in some states, as high as $15,000, $16,000 a year in money from the state will pay for your kid to go to school. I wish that they would just give you their money. Here's your $15,000, Mrs. Johnson or Mr. Whatever Smith. Now you can pick what school you wanna send your kid, but they don't let you do that. You gotta go to the fucking school that you live nearby and I like choice, you know? And you might be lucky.

You might be right by an amazing public school with amazing teachers. Yeah, because your house is $3 million in your living. You know what I'm saying? So the way I look at it, I like choice. When I go to the store to buy eggs, I wanna buy the eggs I wanna buy. I don't wanna buy the eggs that the government says I have to buy because I live in a neighborhood. You know what I'm saying? I like to the store to buy eggs, I want to buy the eggs I want to buy. I don't want to buy the eggs

that the government says I have to buy because I live in a neighborhood. You know what I'm saying? I like to choose. So if I want more of a moral teaching in the school, if I want more of a religious teaching in my school, if I want a school that's heavier into science or maybe one that's art centric,

I have to go to a private school. And they exist, these schools exist. If you have a kid that doesn't fit in the standard model of public school, or especially the school that you live nearby, let's say your kid is super artistic and needs to learn things kinesthetically. I mean, you can go and you can petition the school and go through this frickin' rigourable bureaucracy bullshit

that nobody has time to do. Or if you have the money, you could pick a private school that caters to that kind of student. And you know what happens to these private schools? If they don't do a good job, they're out of business. You know what happens to public schools and they do a bad job? They ask for more money and they usually get it.

You know, when public schools do a shitty job, the state looks at them and says, oh, this school's doing a bad job. You know why they doing it? And this would always turns into, why are you guys doing a bad job? We're not getting enough money. All right, give them more money.

By the way, the money doesn't ever go to the teachers who arguably should get more of the most important part. Yeah, they go to their insane bureaucracies in school union leaders and all that bullshit. No, man, that's a fucked up system. California used to have a voucher system in certain areas. In California, school systems were one of the best

in the country, and a voucher system is literally what I said, where you wanna send, the state gives you a voucher, you pick the school. And so when it ended up happening, is the good schools got all the money, the bad schools lost money. And so they had to adapt and whatever, but it doesn't work that way anymore.

Now I gotta send my, you know, so that's it for me. It's not that I think generally private schools are better than than public schools or there's superior in other ways. Well, they're better for that reason. I mean, I have no idea what private school that he will go to. But when it gets that point, to your point about, you know, if my son's in the robotics, there's a certain school here that's known for that. If my son's into art, there's a certain school here that's known for that. If my son's into art, there's a school for that. If they have an incredible athletic department, there's a school, you know, and I can pick that.

I can go, man, son, you fucking love doing this. I love that I can send you to a school that's even better than everybody else in this area. And private schools are very receptive too, because they're private. So if I have an issue or I want to make a suggestion or and I go and I talk to the principal, they're very receptive. I have dealt firsthand with public school.

I have a lot of family members. My mom is also a public school teacher. I've went through the public school system. I have siblings in it. I had clients whose kids were in it. I had a client whose child was in public school and it wasn't working for them. And I actually went, because I trained this kid.

So I had to go and talk to the bureaucracy of getting this kid to change class. And it was a fucking nightmare. You can't even, it's like the DMV, you know, where you, like I can't believe that this bureaucracy exists. This is insane. I forgot there was one school district

where this one woman got, she got elected to be the one woman got elected to be the charge of it all. And she went into this warehouse that the school was storing things and found the kids didn't have books or pencils so the teachers had to pay for them at a pocket. She goes to a warehouse where the school forgot that they had stored a bunch of books and pencils. And it's just an completely inefficient system.

So that's why I want the choice. I just want to be able to choose in public schools. Unfortunately, I have to move if I want to choose and that doesn't always work. So. You guys make a lot of sense. My kids are in public school. Yeah.

I just got lucky, man. I mean, it's one of the best in California in terms of ratings in the community aspect is bar none. My kids specifically have not revealed any very specific skill that they're trying to work towards or like something that a public or a private school would foster more of an intensified curriculum towards. So for me, it's a matter of like, what they have is very rich in community centric and all the parents are there constantly on campus. That's right.

And they all contribute to, if there's a problem with like a deficiency in books, everybody pays for it in the community. Well, this is one of the perks of sometimes being in a smaller tight town. It's smaller. Yeah, that's what I love about it. I grew up the same way I grew up in a town where there was one high school. You know, so everybody gave a fuck about that high school.

It's the only, because even the rich kids were there, the poor kids were there, every all the kids were there. It was the only school, the only option that you, so even the nice neighborhoods and the poor neighborhoods are all going to, so everybody bands together to make sure that the can't take a shenanigans like okay in the current climate of what's going on in the world like if

there's like certain things being taught and like sex education like changes and like all these things radically you know come in based off political agendas and whatnot wink I'm out yeah and you're not going to be all because you won't have much say yeah you know you won't I will say this about stuff, political, agendas and whatnot, wink, I'm out. Yeah, and you're not gonna be able, because you won't have much say, yeah, you won't. I will say this about education. I think of all the things that we can invest in, and I'm talking from the state, education seems to have a decent return.

We tend to be super inefficient with government run programs, but education's got to go return. So I do support public education. I just think we need more, more choice. And now that being said, education is gonna change radically whether we like it or not. Yeah. The information has become so decentralized.

I might, yeah, I might unschool mine like Ben Greenfield. Dude, it's out there and it's all free. That's an option now, it's crazy. It is, I mean, you could watch videos and learn things online and have access to things for almost for free. And tech is changing so quickly that it's almost becoming obsolete to go and take a structured program anyway. It's better off to go real specialized anyway. So I think in 15, 20 years, this is going to be an interesting conversation. I think education

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