Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1144: How to Work Around Shoulder Pain, Incorporating AMRAP & EMOM Sets into Daily Workouts, Fat Loss for Advanced Aged Clients & MORE

Episode Date: October 19, 2019

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about incorporating AMRAP and EMOM sets into daily workouts, exercises that work the chest without using shoulders, where or when mobility workouts come into play when getting back in shape, and the best methods for fat loss in 80+-year-olds with limitations. Why Mind Pump does not like their athletes getting involved with politics. (4:51) Don’t tell Americans what to do! (9:04) How Vurori has clothing for all seasons! (11:57) The guys rave about their newest sponsor Caldera Labs. Where they harvest the ingredients for their products, the benefits and the importance of what you put on your skin. (13:08) The value Sal is getting from journaling. (17:08) The common stereotypes of dads. (23:37) Mind Pump talks about the recent Disney remakes. (26:08) Creating more creativity or distraction? The pros and cons of autonomy. (31:02) The competitiveness of the new gig economy in attracting talent. (35:02) The guys comment on Layne Norton’s latest video assessing BCAA’s. (40:29) #Quah question #1 – What is your opinion on incorporating AMRAP and EMOM sets into your daily workouts? (46:38) #Quah question #2 – I've been having chronic shoulder pain which makes it difficult and painful to bench press. Are there any other exercises that work the chest without using shoulders? (52:22) #Quah question #3 - When getting back into shape, where or when do mobility workouts come into play? We are not working with a personal trainer. (57:45) #Quah question #4 – What are the best methods for fat loss in 80+-year-olds with limitations? (1:03:31) People Mentioned Hal Elrod (@hal_elrod)  Instagram Layne Norton, PhD (@biolayne)  Instagram Mike Matthews (@muscleforlifefitness)  Instagram Related Links/Products Mentioned October Promotion: MAPS Anabolic ½ off!! **Code “RED50” at checkout** Visit Vuori Clothing for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Visit Caldera Labs for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code “mindpump” at checkout for the discount.** Mind Pump 1007: Hal Elrod on Cheating Death & Creating The Miracle Morning The Lion King (2019) - Rotten Tomatoes Forget robots, AI supervisors are working to automate humans Layne Norton video - Do BCAAs Really Work? Prime Bundle | MAPS Fitness Products - Mind Pump Rubberbanditz Resistance Band Set Mind Pump Free Resources

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. Mite, op, mite, op with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. So this episode is broken up into two segments. We do our first part, which is the introductory portions, where we talk about current events, our lives and fun stuff. Then the second part, we answer fitness and health questions asked by people like you on our Instagram page.

Just like you. Our official Instagram page was just my pump media. So if you wanna ask us a question that we can answer in an episode like this one, make sure you head on over there and look for the Kwa meme. That's where you ask those questions. You're like Kwa.

All right, here's what we talked about in the first part of this episode. We mentioned LeBron James and the NBA's social justice hypocrisy. Boy, he under a lot of heat. I've seen at least five different viral memes. He's like a thousand memes now. Made with LeBron James. Apparently he's in love with China.

Yeah. Then Adam complimented me on my fashion. This is a rare event, by the way, ladies and gentlemen. Time stamp it. Almost never happens. He's talking about my long sleeve ever-handly shirt from Viori. Viori makes at leisure wear that you can wear pretty much anywhere. That's wear. That's a lot of wear. That's a lot of wear. Anyway, there are one of our sponsors and we have a discount exclusive for Mind Pump listeners. If you want to check out their stuff, go to Viori Clothing, Viori Spell V-U-O-R-I.

So VioriClothing.com, forward slash Mind Pump. Use the code that's listed on the page. You'll get a full 25% off your entire order. Then we talked about going to Tahoe. We're all gonna head off to Tahoe after we're done recording this episode to go check out some stuff. And we were mentioning how the air is dry up there

and how it makes all of our skin dry. Yeah, that's right. We're bros and we talk about our skin. Yeah. Anyway, Adam has been using a product from Caldera. Caldera makes skin products that are mostly wild harvested from herbs and plants that, so it's all natural. And it seems to be working really, really well.

In fact, I'm looking at Adam right now and his face is amazing. Yeah. Wish you guys really good. It's really good. Anyway, Caldera is a company we're working with. If you go to calderalab.com, ForstashMindPump, you'll get 20% off your first purchase of any of their products. Then I talked about my journaling.

I've been writing in a journal recently, so I talk about the benefits of that. This is the manliest podcast ever. It's great. We talk about dad stuff. Yeah, we like to talk about that. Adam watched the Lion King and was raving about it. Again, manly stuff. We talked about how some companies are using artificial intelligence to supervise their employees at Sucks. And then we talked about the Lane Norton Post on brand shaming of acids and how I like to have fun and poke at Sucks. And then we talked about the Lane Norton Post on branch shaming of assets and how I like to have fun and poke at that guy. He's a good friend of ours.

And then we got the fitness portion of this episode. The first question, what is your opinion on incorporating AMRAP and EMOM sets into your daily workouts? If you're confused, don't feel bad. Those are just acronyms that mean as many reps as many reps as possible and Every minute on the minute. So anyway, these are techniques to improve the intensity or increase the intensity of your workouts Don't worry. We explained it all in the episode the next question

This person has lots of shoulder paint when they bench press So they want to know if there's exercises that work the chest without hurting the shoulders We talk a lot about mobility there how How to get his shoulders to stop hurting. Get to the root. The next question, this person wants to know, you look, when I'm getting back into shape, where does mobility play a role? Should I work on mobility now? Should I work on it later? Well, the short answer is always work on mobility. Forever. But we explain it into detail in that part of the episode. And the final questions, what are the best methods for fat loss for people who are 80 and over in terms of age?

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So many times. I watch how much I learn about the NBA and like, I know, do this guys. You can have all his stats. All the 70s and all the 20s. I don't feel like it's, it's no different than 1978 when the next play goes. It's like, whoa. It's just like Dr. J when you went up, you know, I actually want you and I know you because I just think that you're like, we're we're a lot alike is there's once we get into something,

then like sparks like, oh, I really enjoyed that you go full on. I'm going to introduce you to ESPN's 30 for 30s where they do these documentaries on like players. They do such a good job. Oh, bro, you can't, some of them, you can't watch and not just like fucking fall in love with the person and want to know everything about their career after they're brilliantly done. Yeah, they're brilliantly done. They're extremely entertaining and I'll go back and rewatch some that are just awesome, dude. But right now he's LeBron James in particular is getting just roasted. Oh man, so many memes.

I don't feel sorry in the slightest bit, dude. And I'm here's the thing. I'm a LeBron James basketball fan. Oh, anybody who's listening to the show for a long time, he's one of the goats. Yeah, that's all you've ever said. Yeah, I love the guy. Yeah, I think that he's long time, he's one of the goats. Yeah, that's all you've ever said. Yeah, I love the guy. Yeah, I think that he's, I think he's the greatest player ever and I, it's very close between him and Michael Jordan, I can make arguments for both sides, but no doubt he's in the discussion.

He's incredible. But I don't like his political stances. I don't like him getting involved in politics, whatsoever. I've never liked any of my athletes getting it. Anybody who I follow as an athlete, I follow you because you're an athlete, not because you're political views whatsoever.

So when they get in there and they start doing that, I'm like, oh, I don't, you're ruining it from you right now. I like you so much and you say stupid shit. And so seeing him get lambasted right now. He said, he said himself up for that because once you come out as a social justice, whatever you wanna call it, warrior or you speak out, and then you speak out against people who don't speak out,

because he's been known to say things like, staying silent during times like this is as bad as being a part of it, and kind of calling a lot of people out. So when you do that, you set yourself up. And now you have to hold yourself to a certain standard. And then you have, you know, he's, he literally basically tweeted against somebody who's pro democracy in Hong Kong.

And I mean, democracy's, that's as American as anything that exists. And that's a good thing for everybody. I don't care where you're from. Who will be right? Right, doesn't matter. You got to support people's right to be free. And but see, the problem again is that he said himself up so poorly before.

Now we're into this stage, he could have kept his mouth shut as we could have done. That's the best. If he said nothing, he would have been better off, but he didn't, he went against, I have been better off, but he didn't. He went against, I forgot who it was, but he went against that guy. So now that's, and then the NBA on top of it,

it's kind of, because the NBA's taking stances too. I don't remember where it was, but the NBA kind of said, hey, we're not gonna have games here anymore unless they change some kind of policy. I remember what state it was in the US. They've had stances like this in the past. But now when China, which, there isn't a state in the US. They've had stances like this in the past. But now when China, which there is

in a state in the US that is even comes close to the oppression that the China does, China's communist, they control a lot of aspects of people's lives. You will literally go to jail for saying the wrong things. So if you stand for against your oppression, you gotta kind of be consistent, but the NBA is not because China is a powerhouse with money. So they just look like huge hypocrites. So you go in the meme world, which today's memes are, yesterday's, same thing is yesterday's political cartoons.

They're destroying LeBron. Yeah. Absolutely. Do you see the ones where he's, there's something, there's something T-shirts of him in like, the communist uniform. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, I've had all the Winnie Pooh, Winnie the Pooh memes with them. I've never ever heard that before until self-wrought that other day, dude. I was still laughing about that after you brought that up. I'm like, hey, then he gets mad about that, like that reference. You know what I, yeah, now you're going to double down, you know, of course. You know what I love about America is, as dysfunctional as we can come across sometimes. Here's what I, yeah, now you're gonna double down, you know, of course. You know what I love about America is as dysfunctional as we can come across sometimes. Here's what I love about America. The second you tell us we can't do something.

We're doing it times a million. Yeah. Like the second everybody hates us. Oh, the second the Chinese prime minister said, don't come, if you compare me to Winnie the Pooh or whatever, it's illegal. Americans are like, really? Here we go. Oh, man.

It was interesting. I remember even two, uh, remember with, with the, uh, or whatever, it's illegal, Americans are like really? Here we go. Oh man, it was interesting. I remember even two, remember with the political cartoons with Muhammad and how volatile that was. So in Texas, they actually had like, everybody like did paintings of Muhammad and they made it a thing because of the fact

because it was like the untouchable. Yes. So it was like, no, everything is fair game. And so that became a thing. And that was, I remember, I was like, oh wow, that was bold, that took some balls. Yeah, Rebellion, I mean, look, here's a deal. People could be offensive, they could use stupid shit.

But so whether you agree with it or not, isn't the point. I think the point is we were born from being fucking rebels. Like we are, it's a rebel country. It's 100%. What do you want? Yeah, the second year, you know, we could all disagree, it's the best part, we all hate each other, disagree.

Ah, I hate you, I hate you. Someone from the outside tell us something, not to do something, everybody bands together. Fuck you, we're all gonna do it. It's even like, it's literally like you said, born into us. Like it's, you brought this up a while back. Like it's just in our nature as the generation

that comes up like the kids right now are rebelling against the culture that's happening right now. It's just that and that'll happen again. Like every decade you see this where. It's, it's, it's, if you look at, obviously we were, we were born of rebelling against England, right? So we revolted against them. So that's where it started. Then the, then the, born of rebellion against England, right? So we revolted against them.

So that's where it started. Then the states and the colonies, you know, they needed to make sure that the federal government didn't tell them what to do. Then you had the south and the north rebelling against each other. Then you had a country where immigrants from all over the world would come here.

And the only thing it had in common was maybe some religion, there were a lot of Christians that came here, but a lot of different religions. But the main thing they had in common was they all valued freedom. And so they all came here. Think about how crazy that was. Coming to a country, don't speak the language, you don't have any roots. There's zero guarantees aside from the fact that you can kind of build your own business and do what you want. You're leaving your home and that's the kind of people that this country attracted. And so what you have is this huge melting pot of different ideas and stuff. And it causes a lot of turmoil. It really does. It causes tons and tons of turmoil.

But it also spurs innovation and ideas. And so as much as we like to complain about the stuff that's here, I mean mean you got to love it too You know what I mean? We're like we're definitely the poster child of the middle for the melting pot It's it's we work it all out, you know, it's that dysfunctional family that works it out at Thanksgiving No, I love it. That's twice now that you wore that shirt on a day that I had planned to wear it And then you pull it, dude, I know. It's probably, it's now become my favorite viewer. You have it too? Yeah.

Oh no. You have the same color? Same color. I don't know if they have another color. No, I think it's just black. What is this one called? It's the ever-hendley. Ever.

The long sleeve ever-hendley. Yep. It's form-fitting. Yes, that's why it's fitted. It's fitted, but it's. Give you a nice V taper. And you could dress it up or down. It's casual.

I've wore it with my sweats before But then I've also wore it with jeans like you have it right now, and I like it a lot. No, it's it's super comfortable And I got I got put it on because we're going up to Tahoe and it's supposed to be I forgot that it's cold up there And then I was working with mainly cold at night, but yeah, I think it's been pretty decent weather like 60s Like during the day. Yeah, what is it at night in the morning? Cool It's cool I mean for us like I something like that during the day. Yeah. What is it at night in the morning? Cool. Like it is cool. I mean for us like I'm like, ah, you know, the sun.

But yeah, I know at night's probably like 30 or below. Yeah. I was working with with Anne yesterday and she's obviously coming from Reno when she comes down here and she said it's it's it's nippy in the morning and then at night. So it's like getting cold now and then dry as hell apparently apparently it's supposed to be. Bro, when I go out there, my skin gets so dry.

Yeah. I couldn't live up there, dude. I was just up there, my lips were just destroyed. They all cracked up and everything. I had to put all this lip balm on and everything else, like looking all fainted. Oh, you know what that reminds me? We'll bring the Caldera skin oil.

I, you know what, I know Taylor put that bring the the Caldera skin oil. I brought you know what? I know Taylor, you know, put that on me and I thought it was kind of weird at first when I first started using it, but I love it. I've already gone through a full bottle of that. Yeah, well, I can see a difference in your skin and I used a little bit of myself. So it's all natural plant oils. When you look at the ingredients, you see, first off, many of them are wild harvested, which is probably one of the reasons why it's an expensive product, but also why it works so well, because when you harvest some of these plants from the wild, they tend to be higher in some of the active compounds, because when you try to plant things and you reuse the

soil over and over again, plants tend to have less of their active compounds, they tend to be less nutrient dense. If you find wild flowers or wild herbs, they tend to have more of these active ingredients. That's what you see on the back. That's interesting. That's kind of like comparing like with animals

when you hunt or fish, right? When you do that versus having them in a farm-raised situation. Trying to mimic the wild in a controlled, you know, system like agricultural system, it's almost impossible. I mean, you can do it, but it's so expensive that nobody does it that way, right? So what do they do with the soil? They throw, you know, just the stuff in the soil that they know that the plants need to grow, but they're not, they doesn't have the same microbiome diversity,

it doesn't have the same other types of nutrients that are in there, it doesn't get the natural fertilization of animals. So it's like greenhouse versus like out and, you know, outdoors and they open and get in sunlight and everything else. Yeah, so... So I wonder how they do that. You go out in the wild and they pick all this stuff. Yeah, there's places that they go,

because you'll see on the back of the bottle, if I pick it up, let me see. If you go on the back of the bottle, you'll see there's many ingredients with two, they have two asterisks next to many of the ingredients that are all wild, that they picked out in the wild. So like the apricot kernel oil, you know, that's wild, the alfalfa oil, that's wild. I mean, there's tons of, you know, that's wild. The alfalfa oil, that's wild.

I mean, there's a lot, there's tons of stuff in here. That's wild. The echinacea that's in here is wild. So, it's probably why you're noticing. What is echinacea in there too, ma? Yeah, there's a very interesting blend in here. Yeah, that's the thing about putting stuff on your skin. We don't realize that putting stuff on,

it's the biggest organ. Yeah. And the stuff you put on your. It's the biggest organ. Yeah. And the stuff you put on your skin ends up in your body. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So, it's like you put creams and lotions on your face, or your arms or whatever, and you're like, oh, this makes me feel good.

Right. Look at the ingredients, dude. That's like... That's how I always have been skeptical about like using lotions and creams. Well, this is how I've been using it lately. So I've been using it like it's lotion for me. So I didn't, I don't know if that's how I'm supposed

to be using it or not, but it makes my skin like look just like if I've drenched it with lotion all day long and it keeps it super moist. It almost feels lotion gives your skin a different feeling than this. This gives it more of a, like when I'm in a humid environment and my skin's got that's natural, it's natural, what's the word I wanna use?

Not wholeness, but natural like it feels. Moist. Yeah, very thinking. What a terrible word. He thought word. I was hesitant. It was very, I was just sensitive. Like he had to say, you say moist.

He's like, what is it? Mm, moist. When did that word become out of favor? I don't think anybody's ever liked it. Yes, it did dude. We were come on bro every cupcake and cake commercial when we were kids Moise make sure the fork going through the frickin cake. Yeah, I don't remember that Just one of those descriptors that you're just like it it kind of sounds in, like, I don't know, doesn't sound great. Yeah, it's good.

Hey, how's, we were just talking the other day. I don't know if Justin or Doug brought it up, but we were off air. And then you said that you had been too, is journaling. Dude, I tell you what, man. So I go to, sent me a lovely message this morning. I like you journaling.

Yeah, you like that one? Did you get the picture? You did, yeah, you did send me a lovely message this morning. I like you journaling. Yeah, you like that one? You did what he did. Yeah, you did send me. Yeah, did you get the picture? Yeah, I did. The file was too big. Oh, I had to drop box. I could do it out to nude, but I did appreciate the love. You guys have something. No, not over there. Not like that. No, it's um, so it's so I see a counselor every once in a while, to help work through and process just some of the challenges that, you know. I don't know you were still doing that? Yeah, you know why I see value? And I get a lot of value at a course.

Of course. I'd have talking with someone. But non-biased professional, they can help you dive into yourself. I think it's brilliant. I think it's, you know what else it also is? It's also a dedicated hour that I'm going to work on me. Like how often do you do that?

You actually schedule a dedicated, whatever. But anyway, one thing that she recommended was journaling and I've heard that so many times, you know, journal in the morning, it's really good. I'm like, oh, so describe this because in my mind it's like, dear diary. You know, like I was like, oh hell no. I'm not doing that shit.

That's exactly how I thought. Okay. No, you know what it is. So finally I've heard it enough times from enough people and I said, okay, I'm going to give this a shot and see what happens. Here's what happens when you journal. So there are certain, you know when you get a song stuck in your head and it's over and it just keeps repeating and it's the same fucking part of the song.

Yeah. Do you know what the solution to that is? Have you ever heard of what the solution is? I usually just think of a different one. No, I just thought the solution. It's easy work. Science shows that one way you get that repeating thought, that repeated verse or whatever at your head is to listen to the actual song until it finishes. And then because it's completed, you've completed the loop and the odd that it stops repeating

is low. So what I found with journaling is, if I have a negative feeling about something or thought, and I write it out on a journal, because you're writing it by hand, first off, it slows you down. So I'm writing it by hand, it slows me down. Second, as I'm writing out the negative feeling, it becomes very natural for me to come out with the good side of it. So like, I could write the negative feeling, and be like, fuck man, like, I messed come out with the good side of it. So, like, I could write the negative feeling, be like, fuck man, like, I messed up yesterday, I yelled at my kid. Like, I maybe have this bad feeling about that.

Oh, shit, I yelled at my son, and I shouldn't have. I yelled at my son. And I'm not even aware of how I'm thinking about, I just have this bad feeling about it, and I replay it in my head over and over. Then when I write it out, then I can be, I find myself being a little bit more constructive about it. Like I felt bad, I yelled at my son, but you know what, I was under a lot of stress and pressure. Then afterwards, we actually had a good time,

and I'm gonna make today, I'm grateful for him, and I'm grateful that I have this opportunity to be with him, and you know what, today I'm gonna make sure I make it a point to whatever completes the thought, no more looping negative bad feeling. And that just happens with everything kind of naturally. You become, at least I'm finding them, a more naturally grateful and listing gratitude.

And then the other part of it is you put out there kind of, whether you can call it prayer or meditations, but it's basically like, you know, I affirmations. Yeah, like I'm looking for the strength to stay on track or I'm a little nervous about, you know, speaking at this event today, but I know it's for a good thing and it just makes you feel like you process your feelings. Yeah, really interesting. No, that's great. but I know it's for a good thing and it just makes you feel, like you process your feelings. Really interesting.

No, that's great. Do you do it more towards the end of your day? Like it's a reflection because I know for me, that's how I've been sort of getting into that, not necessarily writing it out, but like going through my day and my thoughts and processing, like what I could do better going into the proceeding day.

No, I do it in the morning. I don't know if it would change if I did it at night, but I No, I do it in the morning. I don't know if it would change if I did it at night, but I find when I do it in the morning, I'm now the rest of the day. And it's only, it takes me a grand total of five to 10 minutes. Yeah. Sometimes it's like, because I've done about five or six times now,

sometimes it's like lines, where I'm listing things, other times it's like a paragraph. But I find that after I'm done, with that 10 minutes, I feel like I'm ready to tackle the day with the right attitude or whatever. Yeah, I didn't realize it would be that effective.

No, I know why everybody talked about it. I had a streak for a while there where every morning I was getting up and I was journaling and writing what I wanted to accomplish in the day and then in the evening time, I was writing doing five things that I was grateful for. And when I was doing it, it was great.

And I've tried to, I've got, I must have a stack of different journals that I think Katrina's bought me over the eight years because I was getting this mood, right? Like I remember the last kick, it was, we had Hal Al-Roth. That's right, that's right. He came on the show and I was like,

you know what, it's been a while since I tried to do that again. Let me try and do this shit again. And they all, when they all talk about it, you know, everybody's, you know, he's one of many who have the, you know, the 10 minute hack to it or be it old, it's just 10 minutes a day or it's this that. Win your day. Right.

And then I do it and I start off for a while and I just, eventually, it always falls off from me. I can't seem to be consistent with it. Although I do think that when you've applied that so many times, like there's practices that are similar that I do. I just don't organize it as well. So you brought up like the loop in your head of like that's me at night, like every night, like I just, and it isn't, it's not always a negative thought. It's just a thought. Like, we got to do this in the business. We got to do this in the, and it's like repeating

in my head, like I got to do it. And so much to write it out. So I get up and then I write it all out in my iPhone notes. And when I do that, it does. It helps me calm down. Isn't that weird? Yeah, could you get it on paper? You get the full thought out. You got so it's like, okay, I can revisit this if I need to. Or that's all I need to do is get it out.

So I don't forget it again because it's important. That's what I think part of it is. I think part of it is we create these loops because it's almost like we're telling ourselves not to forget it. Yes, I think part of it is. I think part of it is we create these loops because it's almost like we're telling ourselves not to forget it. Yes, it's totally what it is. The second you put it out and you complete the thought and writing makes you slow down.

It makes you more complete with your, because writing is a form of thinking, just like discussing it with people as a form of thinking. Once you write it out, it's like your mind or whatever, your subconscious is like, cool, I don't need to think about that anymore. And let me tell you, dude, I'm really starting to realize how many fucking loops I have going on throughout the day, dude.

It's pretty, it's pretty, it's dead life, bro. Dead life. Dead life. I'm laughing right now because we're going to, we're about to go to Tahoe after we're done with this podcast. And Adam, you're, this was before you were a dad, so I can't necessarily blame it on We're going to we're about to go to to Tahoe after we're done with this podcast and Adam You're this was before you were a dad so I can't necessarily blame it on that But you are hilarious about you gotta leave it this time so we could get there at this time

It's such a dad thing though Yeah, just paranoid that everybody's gonna like blow it you know like get you close I can take so much pride in getting somewhere like 20 minutes earlier It's such a big deal for me. We all have, you know, we are all very different with our different shit like that. You are this way with your workout. Your workout and your food like you are like,

we religious about that. Like we're going somewhere. It's like, is there Jim nearby? I'm gonna be able to get, what are we doing tomorrow morning? I wanna make sure that I'm up by five o'clock. Yeah, I can't eat before that. You wanna eat, you can't eat.

Yeah, yeah, I'm not, I need to work out. Then we'll eat, I don't wanna eat before we go workout. You guys do it, Aaron, but I'm up by five o'clock. Yep, I can't eat before that. You won't eat, but you can't eat. Yeah, yeah, I can't. I'm not, I need to work out. Yeah, I don't want to eat before you go. You guys do it, Aaron, but I'm gonna, you're not eating. Go do it, man. Put this like wife, Peter, I'm gonna go there and work out. I'm gonna come back and have this nice meal. He's saying so many times it like, yeah, okay, you're right. That's that's what we're doing.

You guys are just so annoyed. Doug is like with the lights or the thermostat and he cracks me the fuck up. Yeah, he's got me. So today I walked in and I said, hey, did I hear you right yesterday? Did you say our bill was $700 from the electric bill? He's like, no, $800 and something. I'm like, fuck, I'm over here switching the lights off

with the old man. Yeah, so he does remind me of dad like that. You know what I'm saying? We're like, oh, no big deal. It's like, fuck, 800 bucks. You turn the heater on right now. How dare you? Yeah, those are the stereotypes right don't touch the thermostat Because dad will get pissed off. There's dad jokes. That's another big one the lights turned off the dad sneeze Have you guys heard this one? This is a big common one in the I have that yeah apparently dads have the loudest you've heard me sneeze right?

Man, I want I'm even trying but yeah, you know heard me sneeze, right? That's so loud. Oh, man, I want to try. I'm even trying, but yeah. You know what annoys me more is the little tiny sneezes. Yeah, that's, okay. So Jessica has, fuck outta here. Jessica has that. Jessica's got a broken sneeze, that's what she does. So she broke it.

A broken sneeze. She'll go to sneeze. And she, no, she goes, she goes. And she'll do like, he'll like, pattern on the back, like, get it out. Well, so we were having a conversation and she'll do like, Tame will start pat her on the back, like get it out. Well, so we were having a conversation, and she's done this as long, obviously, as I've known her, she's done her whole life,

and I'm like, your sneeze is broken. She's like, what do you mean? I'm sneezing, I'm like, the object of a sneeze is to expel the irritant out of your nose. The fact that you're not doing that means it's broken. She's like, oh, so now she tries to like, chew to let it out, but it's still kind of broken. You know, I am totally late to the party on this,

but I've been meaning to say somebody guys, I've now watched it twice in the last week. I saw Lion King for the first time. The original or the next one? No, no, no, the new one. What'd you think? I'd you guys seen it? Yeah, it's fucking amazing.

Is it? It's amazing. It was. I can't believe you guys never said anything to me about it. It's pretty good No, it's amazing. It's so good First of all it was funny like there was like moments in there. Well, it's just like the original Yeah, it's exactly like the original which is part of why I liked it. I mean, I mean what is it 20 years old? Right, so yeah, maybe even older dude. It's at least 20 years old So it's like I was going like okay, so I had to been 17 20 years old, right? So, yeah. Maybe even older, dude. It's at least 20 years old.

So, it's like, I was going like, okay, so I had to been 17, 18 years old when I originally saw this and, you know, the lines are, like they're, I'm watching it. I'm like, oh my God, I remember the song. I remember, it's part of the show. I like the original scar better, though. My sister said that, actually.

So that's seen on my preference. What's wrong with the old scar? The newer scar. He's just not a sinister. That's what she said. She said she didn't like, he wasn't as evil and as vicious. Yeah, I like it. Voice wasn't as good.

Yeah, I just like, that's funny. She made the same exact critique. My villains to be villains, dude. I watched it with her last night and, you know, we obviously, we had little siblings so we are. 1994, homie. That's when the original one came out. Oh, wow.

Yeah. 14. Yeah, it's a hell of a hell of a old cartoon. So what is that? 26 wow. Yeah. 14. Yeah. It's a hell it. That's a hell of old cartoon. So what is that 26 years? Yeah. Wow. Yeah. That's an old. No wonder they brought it back. Yeah. So that, you know, and boy, you know what the part that I was talking, tripping about was the fucking graphics, dude. Right. I mean, it looks real. I know. And I was thinking about as my sister and I were laughing, I'm like, could you imagine being like a five-year-old? Like I'm probably going out trying to talk to animals after I Like if you're five and you watch that it's gonna get like that. Yeah, I mean, it's that good. It's that high kitty

Like this might actually be a horrible thing for kids going through my head. I'm watching this I'm like this has got me fooled as an adult. You can't have metana. Yeah. Oh. Thanks, Disney. My son thought he was gonna sing with this animal. I'm gonna hate him.

That's what I feel like. I was watching it and I'm going like, I'm like, I actually got up out of the couch. I'm like staring at the TV screen because it was like so, I mean, I have a really nice new TV too, so I'm sure that helps the cause, but the fucking thing is so real.

See the fur, fricking, yeah. Oh, the crap. I mean, it looks so real, and I'm thinking, that's gotta get some five-year-old kid. Trying to go play with the Warthog, because it's a cool friend. Warthog's will fuck you up. Yeah, they'll gut you.

That will kill you. But I thought they did it. So I just recently watched the, the remake, two remakes the Disney did. You saw Aladdin? Yeah, I saw Aladdin this one. I haven't seen that one yet. I didn't like Aladdin.

I liked it. I liked it. I liked it. Maybe that's because I was like, I didn't like how they did the whole fucking, that's so made up song. Oh, I was a fan of that. I wasn't a fan of like,

changing it. Yeah. They did some things in Lion clean that were subtle too. I thought it was really funny. It's cool that Disney, this is something I do. I think Disney does a good job. But there's something going on right now in our culture and this acceptance at all sizes and fat shaming.

That's something that's been a conversation in the last decade more than it was the previous two decades. And so they do these little subtle things in there that if you know that and you're watching it, you catch it, obviously if you're a kid, you don't even pick up on it. But there's a part where the hyenas are about

to eat the word hog and they're saying something towards him and his response, he comments on being confident about his weight, you know, and how he looks. I'm like, oh, that wasn't in the original. Was it a little subtle way to throw that in there? No, they do a killer job. You know what they do really well? That impresses me the most about Disney

is when they use actual live action actors. The actors that they pick are just, I mean, brilliance. Like, brilliant actors, incredible singers, they have this likable factor. They did it with Star Wars. Disney by Star Wars and the characters that are in the Disney-owned Star Wars is you, the Star Wars is. I don't know if you can say it.

I'm sorry, plural in that. They're just so likable. You know what I'm saying? Just very, very, like, you talked about Aladdin, the actor that played Aladdin, and then the actress that played, what's her name, the princess or whatever. Such likable.

Yeah, such likable. Yeah, I like to, yeah, especially the droids. Like, there's been a few of them in the new Star Wars that I really liked. Like, even in like Rogue One, I really liked that droid. It was a pretty, you know, it was a good take. Like I think they do a good job of like characterizing like inanimate things pretty well.

That's gotta be a pinnacle for, especially for a child actor, right? Disney takes you, it's like, you're gonna be awesome. Yeah, pretty much, no matter what. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, anyway, what was the, what was the thing about AI supervisors you wanted to bring up? Who is it?

Is that you, Justin? Yeah, no, I just saw it and I was reading that that was like kind of a new standard to rolling out with a lot of these corporations where they're spending a lot more money into these algorithms sort of like supervising. And so they start monitoring the productivity of all the employees. So it's just like, you know, gone are the days of like being able to kind of put things on auto and then go, you know, run around and fuck off

and like look at Facebook and all like they're monitoring all that stuff now like to the T, which only makes sense if you're a big company and trying to make sure everybody is like actually working. So if everybody's freaking out about it, because it's like big brothers looking over, and it's not like, the gone are the days of the boss like kind of sitting across the room,

and you can kind of, you know, throw spitballs and do whatever. Well, I think, I mean, today it's gotta be so tough. I mean, to run a company where, what company doesn't have a majority of their employees working on computers, right? Most, most all companies, you're, you know, you've got multiple employees, if not tons of employees,

working on computers, building towards something or whatever. And with things like Facebook and Instagram and Google and YouTube, I mean, and how many people are in that debt in nine to five job, they, hey, and I mean, you how many people are in that dead end, nine to five job, they hate, and I mean, you gotta know that that's gotta be the most tempting thing to do half your day. I've heard that before. I've heard people tell me that like,

oh yeah, I work 20% of the day, the other ADM service. I've read studies that say that that's common. Is that is it? Yeah, see, I've heard that. I mean, that's just me from experience talking to people, but I wouldn't be surprised if a majority of people out there working for companies find themselves surfing around on Facebook. Now it makes you wonder how it's going to.

Yeah, I don't know if I can do it. It's like YouTube, but it's telling you. It makes me wonder though how much that's going to hurt innovation and creativity. Yeah. Like if you're in an environment where you feel like you're being monitored and you have to be super. Oh, it's like the ultimate helicopter parent.

Yes, I get out of here. I don't know, so I go back and forth on this, right? Like this that last experience when I went down to organified. Adam's thinking about getting AI supervisor first. I'm like, well, Chad, I know, I know, Andrew's looking over, I'm gonna be like, I'm gonna say, bro, I will bring that stuff all day. He's always know Andrew's looking over, I'm gonna be like, fuck it, I know.

I'm gonna be like, say no. He's always working though, he's saying I never catch him on Port-Hub or anything like that. You'll say, I come behind him all the time too. Every time I employ a finish to the computer, that's the first time I just hit the P real quick and see what was last. Oh man.

Dead giveaway, because Port-Hub pops up right away if you do that, you know what I'm saying? Those are face will tell it all. I know, I know, I know, I know. I know, I know, I know, I know. Not to you know, those are face will tell it all. Yeah. I don't make sure that's a user computer. So much of the trouble. Yeah. No, but do you guys think that we're going through just like a, again, we, I talked about

this all time on the show that we tend to do this as Americans or as just as humans, I think, you know, the pendulum swings one way and then swings back bounce off the edges. Right. And, you know, we had these, you know, cubicle type jobs where nobody talked to each other, staring at screens and it would, and then we broke down the walls and we opened the environments. Now we're going to like an extreme where you go, I went somewhere like, or can't find there's ping pong tables and fucking arcade games and like, it's like, it's like, hooly. Right. Yeah. Totally. And so it's, it's swung the other way. At what point does that become distracting

or become a place where it's like, okay, maybe we're working in this and this does create more, creativity, but also create some distraction from what you should be doing it all day long. And you're still only working X amount hours. Do you think that maybe we over corrected by breaking the cubicles down and now it's just like, hey, fucking, too much autonomy.

And now it's like we're trying to take our grips back and be like, oh, well, this isn't really providing the kind of productivity I want in. Right, yeah, right. No, I think so. I think it's a lot of experimentation, especially in the tech space. But there's another piece to this that we're missing,

which is the new economy, especially the tech space, but there's another piece to this that we're missing, which is the new economy, especially the tech, in gig economy, so competitive for talent, that part of the reason why they do that isn't necessarily the spark creativity and innovation. The other part of it is they're trying to track the talent. So if you're a top scouts. Yeah, so if you're like a top engineer, or you're in tech and you've got a great resume and you're like, okay

Do I work for Apple? Do I work for Google? Do I work for the startup and you go inside their offices and the pay is around the same? But you're like, oh wait a minute Google gives me free food ping pong tables and arcade, you know games I'm gonna work over there, you know what I mean? They got a movie theater. Yes exactly. That's part of it Now the irony is and I don't know how often you guys have been to places like this. I've been to quite a few now companies that have done this. You actually rarely ever see anybody using these as shit.

I know. I just know it, sir. Well, hold on a second. Maybe because when you walk in, your Adam, the supervisor or the big company we're working with, maybe if you're one of the employees, then they're fucking around. I don't know, really?

I don't know. Everybody's like, oh, shit, he's here. Yeah. Everybody disperse. Cause I'm like, oh man, a ping-pong table. I'd be totally playing ping-ponger once more. But then again, look at us. We got, I mean, we got, how often you throw the sandbags

and put the video games. How often we play in the video games we got out there. Right. Never, never, never, never. That's what I'm saying. I like having it here though. It's, it's, it's a little ridiculous. You know what I'm saying? I think we've, everyone. It's a little ridiculous. You know what I'm saying?

I think I think we've, everyone's gone that direction, but it's like, you know, are people really fucking throwing the sandbags? Wait, you know what I think people use the most? Are these companies? What? Free food.

Oh yeah. That's what a big sell. Yeah, that's a big one. My Jessica's dad just got a job at Google and he's like, and they don't just give you like, okay free. No, no, it's good. Yeah. And they let you take home. Yep.

So that's, that's a big plug. Huge. Yes. I would use that. Show you kidding me? And there's lots of different chain options. It's not like there's three options every day. There's all kinds of different options and it's legit food. They did a smart thing with that, you know, in terms of traffic. Well, I've always, I believe that they're doing this thing with it. I've been saying this for a long time in the show too, that like Apple, Google, Facebook,

they're all building these. They're all world. Yes. They're all a little world and ecosystem. Yeah, bonuses in Apple bucks. I'm telling you, they're already made. It's the credit card.

Yeah. In the paint. I'm telling you, I'm telling you, it is gonna come and they're, it's gonna be, that's how they're gonna entice people. That's how you're gonna get somebody

who's making a quarter million for said company to come over and work for Apple because they're gonna be like, hey, we're not gonna pay you a quarter million, we're gonna pay you 125, but. We're gonna give you $300,000 of Apple money. Which on campus. Which you can use on campus,

which gets you movie theaters, dry cleaning, wash your car, you can use at our grocery store. You could lease a car from Apple leasing, you could fucking buy a house on our Apple campus. Do not think that is not coming, that is 100% coming. Oh, I mean, headbands. It's actually very, it's not just intriguing, it's alluring. I mean, think about that.

If they actually had something like that, I'd be kind of... Well, especially, I mean, Apple and Apple's done a really good job of this, of having the best or one of the best of like everything that they do, like it's probably gonna be, still attract some of the best dentists, they'll attract some of the best grocery stores, they'll attract some of the best of everything.

And so, not only will it be cool and a great deal because you can use your money at these places, but they'll probably be great places. Yeah, they're already doing that too with like doctors, physical therapists, and chiropractors, and yeah, and the like and dentists, like yeah, I, one of my clients, you know, used to be a VP there,

and that was like the big initiative was to, you know, really up their care, you know, like, and so that way, you don't even go outside the campus, you just get your doctors and all that appointments on campus. Yeah, well, I mean, and look, there is lots of evidence to show that if your employees don't have to leave, if they feel like their lives are less stressful,

because that's what that is, right? Oh, I gotta go get my dry cleaning. Oh, I gotta get food, shit for dinner. Oh, my God, I gotta, so, oh, but it's all taking care of here. So it eliminates a lot of that stress. Stuff like, I've seen lots of studies on gyms in corporate facilities. It wasn't that long ago.

I mean, nowadays a lot of big companies have gyms. But back when I first started in fitness, it was still novelty. And when we would do corporate memberships, it was so novel, that was a whole department. It was, it was a whole department. And because a lot of companies in New, it was a whole department. It was, it was a whole department and because a lot of companies in New, it was a new thing.

Yeah. But the studies were coming back showing that every time they invested a dollar in fitness for their employees, they get two dollars back in productivity. Less sick time, people working together better. Virgin is one of the best companies that figured that out like right out of the gates. Really? Yeah, they went all in on corporate wellness and even made like, they were one of the best companies that figured that out, like right out of the gates. Yeah, they went all in on corporate wellness and even made like, they were one of the first to adopt

like Fitbit and all these things to help kind of promote like more focus on just over activity and like getting up and doing things and incentivizing, you know, their employees with that kind of stuff. Well, I mean, again, you create that, it's a great environment to be in nowadays because especially if you work in these new economies,

these like tech, they're fighting for talent. So you're in a good position, you know what I mean? So I mean, I've said this for forever. I have family that's in tech and investing. And I'm like, man, you guys are in a good space. You know what I mean? Pre-Lucard. You don't even have to be the best.

You just have to be kind of good. Yeah, in a good space. You know what I mean? Pre-Lucard day. You don't even have to be the best. You just have to be kind of good. Yeah, you're gonna crush. You know what I mean? Hey, did you see, I sent both of you, I think. I know I sent you the Lane Norton's BCAA video that he just did. Did you see that? Did you see my comment?

I did. No, I did. I guess I got cast by camera. Oh, keep up with you guys. Really, I thought I sent to you too. Did you know I sent to you? You don't check your DMs, so you don't check for me. I mean, I get a lot of stuff. Put a hot girl picture. sent to you too. Did you not get it? You don't check your DMs, so you don't check for me. I mean, I get a lot of stuff.

Put a hot girl picture. Get to the pool. Next time, you gotta wear some first. A little more scantily clad at them and then I'll pick tension. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, he wrote what he did is he talked about taking BCAAs for his prep for nationals and then he got hammered

because studies show that branching amino acid supplements do nothing for you if you're protein protein intake is high. So people are like, why are you even taking this? Yeah. So he made a video kind of defending it and he says, no, studies are clear they show that, you know, BCAAs don't build muscle,

but some studies show that they reduce soreness and improve recovery, but the studies also don't compare it in terms of comparing it against the equal amount of protein. So in other words You know what the study show is taking eight grams of branch amino acids reduce soreness But they don't compare it against eight grams of protein, which is what you should do You know, so he's like so I don't know what it's gonna say or whatever So I get on there and I'm fucking with them and I'm like, okay

So it improves recovery reduces soreness, but doesn't build muscle So you're just taking the seat, if you're not a sore, that kind of doesn't make sense. So we're kind of going back and forth on the whole thing. But no, it's, does he get frustrated? No. No, he's acknowledging it. I told him that I think he just likes to drink the fruity,

you know. Superlux flavor. You know, he wants a tasty. Yeah, he wants a drink, a tasty drink, but you know, you feel weird about that. So here's Sprinkle some B.C.A.s. Yeah, sprinkle it in. That's a little healthy. Yeah, he wants a drink, a tasty drink, but you know, you feel weird about that. So here's Sprinkle some BCA's. Yeah, sprinkle it in. That's a little healthy.

Yeah. I thought it was a good big deal. I think you did a good job of addressing it. I thought it, but again, it could, again, confuse people of like, oh, I should take it then like, no, you probably should. If your protein intakes low, you know,

if you're a low protein intake person, then it may benefit you. In which case, just take protein, it's cheaper. Eight grams of protein is cheaper, preserving than eight grams. Well, the irony of it, and the reason why I think we've taken such a hard stance on against it, is the people that would most likely benefit from it aren't taking it, the people and the people that won't get any benefit from it whatsoever are the people that are taking it. That's right. It's the bodybuilding community, it's the people that are tracking their macros.

If those people are, that is probably helping them not at all. It's because they get the best profit margins from that specific product. Totally. When you, if you were to look at, go in the gym and count the eight out of 10 people. I guarantee you that are taking BCAs. So if you go in the gym, you find 10 people that are taking BCAs. I guarantee you eight of the 10 people

also are tracking their protein intake. And if you ask them where their protein intake is, it's high. Yeah, it's high. It's not even just low, it's like, or moderate at all. It's fucking high. Because those are the people that care about that that are tracking the patient.

Yeah, just take protein. If you're gonna take, if you're gonna like, oh, I need to take my five grams of branch of amino acids post workout, just take five grams of protein. Look at your protein powder, see what it is per serving, typically a serving is 20 to 30 grams of protein, right?

Take five grams of that. You're spending cents for five grams of protein versus your dollars that you're spending for five grams of branching your acids. It doesn't make it. But they've done a good job. I mean, we've got buddies that I know that are promoting BCA gummies and shit like that now.

Like it's the, because the whole eat sour patches afterwards is the whole gummy vitamin market is humongous now. That's like everywhere, even for kids and men, adults now. I was just like, you're an adult and you're even gummy. Well, I addressed this in my stories the other day that it's like, what do you think about this? Everybody doing the sour patch kids

or what are basically chasing the dextrose post workout? And my response to that is what I said was, you know, in my entire career of training clients, I would argue that 90% of the people that I trained had a hard time getting all the nutrients their body needs in a day. So why would I ever recommend they take 300 of their calories a day and spend it on fucking sour patch kids? I would much rather them go get something else that is way more nutrient dense in their diet and will benefit them.

Plus, you're mislabeling something. So I talk about this all the time. Looking at food and understanding all of the values that the food brings you. Some of that value is it's healthy. It's healthy for my body. Some of the value is it tastes good and I enjoy eating it.

So sometimes there's value to that. There's lots of different values around food. You're mislabeling a candy by taking a post workout. And the reason why it's mislabeling is you're saying that this is beneficial for performance and health when it is not. Now is it beneficial to have some sugar post workout versus no sugar depends on the person.

If you're extremely athlete, yes. But in which case, fucking have some fruit, you know what I mean? Have some fruit, it's better, better for you, and you're not mislabeling a food, which, what's the number one problem that we run into with clients is them learning better behaviors around eating, and now you're going to mix them up with this whole, here's a formula by the way, if you're thinking about starting a supplement company and you really don't care You just want to make a lot of money. Here's the formula come up with something that tastes fucking amazing

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first question is from crystal police what is your opinion on incorporating am rap and e-mama sets into your daily workout you know it's not like ding dong What is your opinion on incorporating AMRAP and E-MOM sets into your daily workouts? You know, it's like ding dong workouts. That's my favorite. Look at CrossFit and all their acronyms, dude. That's so funny. It's fucking so F9.

AMRAP stands for as many reps as possible. What's E-MOM again? Every minute. And they minute on the minute. Every minute on the minute you do a rap. So kind of Tabata-esque. Yes. That's like a hit Tabata, yes.

So here's my opinion on both those things. And they both kind of fall in the similar category. It's a terrible idea into your daily workouts. Do I think there's some value in throwing a, I've done an Amramp before. I would say here, this last year, that's another word for failures. Yeah, right, right.

As many reps as you can do in a set. Right, so how many times have I trained a set where I did as many as possible till I absolutely completely went to exhaustion or failure? I can tell you in this last year that that was less than 10 times, probably less than five times. So somewhere probably between five and 10 total times

and all of my workouts have I done this. So yeah, I think there's some value of inner and do I do it? Yes, intermittently I would do it. Would I program it into a program every week or every day? Fuck no. No, it's like an interruptor. Yes. It's great.

You know, but I think the Rocks studying B-Bop versions a lot better. What? I don't know. I don't know. These just annoys me with these acronyms. But yeah, I think that, again, what's your desired outcome? What's your focus on strength, is your focus on building muscle? This is another one of those things that's going to compete. If you look at it as something that's going to sort of compete. And so if you look at it as like something that's going to compete

towards your progress towards, you know, just specifically building muscle or specifically building strength, you know, it's going to add an element of endurance that now your body's going to compete, you know, amongst those things. That's it. These are, these are intensity, these are tools to radically increase the intensity of your workout. And these aren't the only tools. There's forced reps and partial reps and

heavy negatives. And there's all kinds of different techniques to getting your to pushing your body to a very, very high level. We need to explain the studies that support this stuff because this is where these people get, I think, get the idea that it's good because they'll take a study to support training to failure and the benefits of it for muscle building. And what you're not doing is you're not looking at the whole picture.

You're right, short term. You know, if you compare one group to another group and one group is super, super intense and the other one's less intense, if especially if it's a short term study, you're gonna see that the intensity factor is gonna give people some better results. But if you extended that study and the people continue

to train with that level of intensity, you would start to see their progress stop and maybe even reverse. The tortoise in the hair. So tortoise in the hair, the tortoise will eventually pass the hair. I mean, you come out the gates, yes, in a six week study, if you train with, you know, training to failure

every workout for six weeks, and you compare that to another group that stops their exercises to reps short of failure every week for six weeks, that ones that went to failure would show that they gained more muscle or they burned more body fat. But over the course of a year or two years or a long actual study, I guarantee you the tortoise would actually end up passing the hair in this situation. But is there value then? Because there are-

Yeah, there are tools. You've got to know when to use them. Right. You're not going to always use your sledgehammer and your tool belt. It's like you're going to walk into a house and you're going to see, oh, there's a screw to it there. Oh, time for the sledgehammer. Oh, fuck, I broke the wall. That's kind of what's happening with these tools. Now, there's a screw to it there. Oh, time for the sledgehammer. Oh fuck, I broke the wall, you know?

That's kind of what's happening with these tools. Now, I know why they're so popular. It's because when fitness enthusiasts or influencers posts about their workout. Yeah, it looks cooler. Yeah, I'm not gonna post about my regular workout. That's not exciting. I'm gonna spike Matthews.

Yeah. He does a great job of that. Every regular workout. Casted regular. I'm gonna spike Matthews. Yeah. He does a great job. Every regular workout. He posted regular. I just don't like it. You know what? That's a good point.

He posts the real shit. No, he's doing it. That's perfect. A teaser. Love that guy. That's the truth though. That is the truth though. That is the truth.

That is the truth. That is the truth though. That is the truth though. That is the truth. That is the truth though. That is the truth. That is the truth. That is the truth though. That is the truth though. That is the truth though. You know what I'm saying? But it's boring, so when you're gonna post, like if I post the deadlift, I'm not gonna be like, oh today's workout was, you know, 315 for six reps, four sets of it, and you know, I got a nice squeeze, it's like boring.

I'm gonna put like the PR that I did or I went to complete failure and whatever because you're kind of bragging. But then people get the notion, it's a little distorted that, oh that's the way I need to work out all the time. It's not, in fact, I'll say this, the advanced intensity techniques should be reserved for people who've been consistent with their workouts and who are relatively advanced for at least six

months to a year. If you haven't worked out consistently on a regular basis for six months to 12 months, don't do any of this shit. There's no need. Yeah, leave it out of your workout. That goes for all the crazy shit. Yeah. All the pyramiding and cluster setting and the drop setting and the circuit shit, like everything, like there's so many other big rocks to accomplish in your fitness journey

that you should be addressing and getting good at and practicing and learning first before you start adding stuff. And most certainly, because here's the thing, that you should be addressing and getting good at and practicing and learning first before you start adding stuff. And most certainly, because it hears a thing, even if you're somebody who's within six months, if you did this once, not a big deal, in fact probably has some value, but you doing this in every workout or programming it or every week. No, ridiculous.

It's not a good idea. Next question is from Thunderbolt. I've been having chronic shoulder pain, which makes it difficult and painful to bench press. Are there any other exercises that work the chest without using shoulders? You're asking the question. You're asking, you want the wrong answer.

I'm gonna go around it. Yeah, that's not the right one. Are there exercises that you could do that won't hurt your shoulder that'll work the chest? Yes, are you gonna, is this gonna result in one. Are there exercises that you could do that won't hurt your shoulder, that'll work the chest? Yes, are they going, are you going to, is this going to result in reduced? Are there? Performance, maybe, I mean,

there's nothing you can do. There's nothing you can do for the chest. I'm going to affect it. There's nothing you can do with the chest that doesn't incorporate the shoulder. What I mean is, I'm sure there's exercises. That's what will not bother. It won't stress.

Yeah, that won't bother his shoulder, but then he's going to lose strength and he's going to lose performance because he's going to be avoiding the best, most best exercise. And he's not addressing the root cause. That's it. The real question should be,

I've been having chronic shoulder pain, which makes it difficult and painful to bench press. What can I do to get my shoulders to stop hurting? So I would take a break on your heavy benching and I would focus on shoulder mobility, upper back, thoracic mobility, and really figure out why the hell your shoulder's hurting in the first place because you're gonna be avoiding some of the best,

like bench presses and incline presses or some of the best chest building exercises you could do. Listen, this is extremely common. This is very, very common because of upper cross syndrome, which is the rounded shoulders and the forward head, which almost everybody has this. It's just most of us, it's like not, it's, you know, a spectrum, right? Of how bad it is. It's built into the environment. It is because we do everything in front of us. We don't ever do anything behind us. So of course, it's going

to train our body to be closing forward. Now, when you're doing the bench press, it is not advantageous for you to be in that position. It is more ideal for you to be in a retracted position where your shoulders are peeled back. But that's hard to do that because your brain just tells you to get this weight up. And if your default pattern is to always allow the shoulders to roll forward

because you're that way most of your day, and you get under a 200 pound bench press, you pull that bar off and then you drop it down. Your body just goes get this bar up and what it'll do is it'll push everything forward. But you need to be able to stabilize the shoulder girdle and keep it peeled back while you press. This is why we created a program like Prime Pro and arguably the most valuable program that we created. When I think of everybody, athletes, trainers, your advanced-stage clients, people just getting into working out,

to me, those programs prime and prime pro, in my opinion, should be in everybody's exercise library, just because everybody's gonna deal with stuff like this, whether it be the shoulders, the ankles, the hips, and instead of trying to find exercises that don't bother it, like Sal said, you need to figure out why that is, especially when it's chronic pain,

and we're not talking about acute injuries, we're not talking about somebody who fell and broke their arm or tore their rotator cuff. We're talking about somebody who, man, I don't know what I did, but when I bench, it just aggravates the shit out of my shoulder. Well, that's not fucking normal. That's, I mean, it's normal in the fact

that a lot of people deal with it, but it's not normal that your body should feel that way, doing a fundamental movement like a bench press. So let's figure it out and let's address it. Now, we don't see you in front of us, so I can't say for sure, but more than likely, the point that Sal's making is probably correct. And before you go into Benching, what you should do is prime really well.

In fact, I know that I just did, we all did, there are Friday fitness tips that go up on our Instagram page. And I actually gave a tip in regards to bench pressing and the tip that I gave was about priming before you get into that because of this exact situation because I know that this is super common. A lot of clients of mine would do this. And I suffer from this, like I did this day, okay? If I get into a bench press, a lot of times

when I get under there, my shoulder is clicking and I can feel it like catching. And it totally is aggravated. Unless I go and I spend five or 10 minutes priming, all my back muscles that are responsible for pulling my shoulders back before I go bench. And then when I actually put the work in and I do that, I get under the bench. I feel extremely comfortable.

Yeah, all the stabilizers, rotators, like if you're not expressing any rotational movement at all, like this is gonna become a problem, you're just not gonna track as optimally as you could, even though, you know, it doesn't seem like it's even part of the process, right? Cause I'm just pressing the weight right in front of me. And all I have to do is this one simple move out in front,

but if that's all your emphasizes and you're loading that process continuously, it's gonna stress and it's gonna start pulling, everything out of track just a little bit to where you could counter that by just expressing more movement that your shoulder is very capable of doing. So to take the time to really kind of, go through that

and figure out where you're where the sticking points are, where the deficiencies lie, is going to be like massively advantageous if you when you come back to bench, you're going to see a performance increase. And also like, it's just going to stabilize better, which then alleviates the pain. But yeah, you got to go back to the root and see what's going on. Next question is from RC Junior 1209. When getting back into shape, where or when do mobility workouts come into play? We are not working with a personal trainer. Yeah, mobility workouts come into play day one and forever. There's never a there's never not a place for mobility workouts. Now it's actually probably a great place to start

for a lot of people. Of course. I mean, I, you mean the focus? Like most of the folks, like when this person, that's where you lift weights. Right, right, right. When you're getting back in a shit, in fact, this is an excellent place to start.

I tell you what, if I, I haven't been in this place in a very long time where I'd fallen completely out of shape and I hadn't been in this place in a very long time where I'd fallen completely out of shape and I, and I hadn't been exercising working out, but I'm, I'm, I've learned so much more about mobility today and the last, or in the last probably five years than I had in the previous decade of training. And what I know now, if I were to have started all over again or came from being way out of shape and then getting back on the gym, I probably would have spent the first month doing mostly all mobility work.

And very little strength training. It would be all, because you're gonna get some carryover from that. If you haven't been training at all, you're pretty weak and actually just holding your body weight up and doing mobility type of movements, you're gonna build a little bit of strength.

And more importantly, you're gonna get those joints moving more optimally before you go into starting to do strength training and lifting heavy. So, yeah, where does it play? Fuck, it plays a huge role and should be a major priority for everybody, but it's most certainly for somebody who's deconditioned. And the two main reasons why it should always play a role. One, the obvious, it's going to prevent injury.

Working on mobility is one of the best insurance policies you have against chronic pain or even acute injury from workouts. Now the second reason is less obvious. The second reason is this, with improved mobility, and remember this, mobility means longer or ranges of motion that you have control over. So it's not just the fact that you have greater ranges of motion like oh now I can touch my toes where I couldn't before. It's also do I have strength and control in that range of motion. That's a mobility. It's this complete ownership of how you move and that reduces injury like like I said earlier, but it also does something else.

This is not so obvious. It gives you better results because I can work through greater ranges of motion and because I own those greater ranges of motion, I'm going to activate more muscle fibers when I'm exercising. I'm going to make all the exercises that I do far more effective and all of that's going to give me better results. And we know this through studies. If you take groups of people,

and you have some of them perform half squats, and then you have the other group perform full squats, both under good control with good mobility, the people doing the full squats are going to get better results. They're just gonna get better results all the way around, generally speaking. So mobility work, because some people think,

I don't wanna waste my time doing mobility. I'm only interested in building muscle. I'm only interested in looking good, and I don't hurt, so there's no need for me to do mobility work. Well, the truth is, if you wanna maximize your results, then you should be working on improving mobility, because it's gonna give you better results. Yeah, it's so interesting to me, because again, we always kind of come back

to like a car analogy, but in terms of like having just like parts of the car, not working at its best, right? Say like even the tires, for instance, are like low in pressure. And now I wanna like keep increasing, you know, the engine's torque and like, I get more horsepower and I get more, like what is that going to do in terms of like

propelling the car forward? It's not going to do a whole lot, okay? So you look at your joints if they're not working properly. If you don't have the ability to stabilize properly, your body is not going to allow for more force production. It's not going to allow for you to then build more strength. And if you do, it's gonna come to a headway where at that point, it's gonna become a problem

where you're applying too much force, but you can't handle it. And so then it's gonna break. You know what the irony is too about mobility work? This is the funny irony. And this is something that I learned as a trainer, probably five years in, I know you guys feel the same way.

And any trainer who's listening who's been working with a lot of people has learned this, that the most value that you'll ever provide a client, ever, that will give you the most clients, will give you the most value where you could charge the most money, that people actually, in reality, value more than anything else, is your ability to keep them pain-free. No joke. Like, getting people to lose weight, getting people to build muscle and get stronger, that also has lots of value. But nothing is more valuable than when I get, you know, Mr. Johnson, who's 43 years old,

and I got him to move better. And now when he back doesn't hurt, and his hips move well, he feels like he's younger and he's moving good, that's the thing that keeps him coming. That's the thing that gives him those value. And the irony of that is, we sell fitness so much based off of fat loss and muscle building. If we just communicated this mobility point well, I bet you we'd get more everyday people

working out and doing resistance. I really do. I think if people really understood what resistance training could do when it applied to mobility and they experience it, they'd be more likely to stick to their workouts, more likely to be consistent, because the weight loss and muscle building thing,

you know, a short term that's great, but long term at some point, like I don't like keep trying to lose weight, I don't like keep trying to build muscle for the rest of my life, but geez, I feel great, I feel really good, I move good, like I think if we sold it right, the irony is that the mobility aspect

is probably what we'll get the average person to pick up some weights and work out with weights consistently. Next question is from Melissa Sheppard, what are the best methods for fat loss in a 80 plus year old with limitations? Well, this is all on that mobility, being consistent with mobility. The number one thing I would focus on is especially with people in advanced stage, towards the end of my career I worked with a lot of people in advanced stage, which I would categorize people over the age of 65 or

67 and up. I would focus on getting them more mobile and getting them stronger. And this, regardless of they want to lose weight, gain weight, or whatever, getting them stronger does a tremendous, has a tremendous impact on speeding up someone's metabolism. The greatest impact is on people in advanced age. I swear to God, like I can get someone's metabolism to get faster through strength training, especially if they're already inactive. But you take somebody who's 80, who's inactive and you start reversing what's happening to their body with weights, all of a sudden miracles happen. I mean, it is literally life changing.

We talked about this in previous episodes. The difference between an 80 year old that exercises regularly and the difference between them and an 80 year old that doesn't exercise regularly, it's like two different universes. It's completely different. So the first thing I would do, focus on strength and mobility. That's number one.

Now when it comes to weight loss, of course, we can look at diet and all that kind of stuff, but I don't even touch their diet until later on. And the first thing I focus on is increasing their protein intake. There's lots of evidence now that shows that a high protein diet has tremendous benefits for people in advanced age.

They're finding a good job of reducing muscle and strength loss, improving mobility, and this is for otherwise healthy individuals. It also does a good job at just getting them to feel better and improve their hormone profiles. So when I do work on nutrition, it's like this. It's like, okay, let's look at your diet. All right, I want you to start eating more protein. Let's try having protein with all of your meals that you have throughout the day.

Yeah, it's especially important to work on strength, mobility, and to also like increase their proprioception in terms of like their body's ability to understand where they are in space, but also like to- Like balance. Just movement. Yeah, movement in general.

And so I would focus a lot on multi-planar movement and making sure that they're able to react a lot more. Because we're dealing with somebody that's probably, you know, this is 80 years of fixed types of movements. Because like you start like down, regulating like certain movements that you don't use. And so for the first thing

for me is really to find those movements that they're not doing. And just just sort of lighting those pathways up again is going to do a whole lot in terms of the overall stimulus. And now that's going to affect, you know, even their cognitive abilities going to increase. And all these like benefits are gonna happen as a result of that, which is gonna be momentum. Dude, I've seen this far more with people in advanced stage than any other category. Getting them stronger, not changing their diet,

they get leaner. Yeah, just because I think we don't realize just how inactive people get after a certain age. And so just getting them to move and build some muscle without changing their diet and then before they know it, oh, I'm getting either the chains are dieted, just start to get leaner. Throwing in the protein is just a plus. So the the thing that I used to have to coach to my trainers with clients like this is avoid the temptation to want to just put them on a bunch of machines and do a bunch of bullshit exercises. to want to just put them on a bunch of machines and do a bunch of bullshit exercises.

It's really easy to have somebody this age and go like, oh, we'll go to the preacher-crow machine and go to the little chest press machine and just move these clients around the machine. Like, it seems safer. Yes, so it seems safer. It's easier, like they can do it. You feel like you're providing some sort of exercise

for these people, and it's probably better than them doing nothing. But where I see a lot of value, and just in touch on it a little bit with the stability thing, I like incorporating a lot of stability stuff with that age. I like doing a lot of unilateral work. I like doing things that I think that are really basic functional movements that they start to lose, like being on the lift their arms above their head. Yeah, no weight.

Yeah, exactly. No weight. It could be no weight at first, and then eventually be their arms above their head. Yeah, no weight. Yeah, exactly. No weight. It could be no weight at first and then eventually be five pounds and then be able to do that. To get someone to that age to press five pound dumbbells over their head and then also balance on one leg would be like a fucking huge accomplishment. Just balancing on one leg. Not even lifting anything. Right.

Going to a split stance and doing that. Getting them up off the ground. That could be a workout. That's, you know, three sets of five, getting them up off the ground. That could be a workout. That's three sets of five times of them starting on the ground, getting all the way back up and then teaching them proper ways of doing that. You'd be amazed how many people that age can't even get off the ground anymore. No, you're bringing up good points.

Consider their limitations and try to take off the filter of what you think is a workout. Because you're working with someone who's old and you're working with someone with limitations. So I'll give you a couple examples of common exercises that I would do with people in this age group. One of them would be sit down and stand up. Right. Out of the bench.

And sometimes they couldn't do that without assistance. So then what I would do is I would get pads and I put them on the bench to make the bench higher. So now they didn't have to sit down so far to stand up. And then the way I would progress them would be take one pad off. We've been working with two pads now for the last, you know, four weeks. Now today I'm going to take one pad off. Let's give that a shot. That's their exercise for the lower body. That's it. Here's another one. Leg extension with no weight. Literally, I'm sitting down on the bench, try to maintain posture, Mrs. Johnson, try to keep

your hands across your chest so you have to support yourself. Now lift your knee off your leg off the bench and try and straighten your leg out as straight as you can and bring it back. That's enough resistance for a lot of people in this category. Here's another great exercise. I would have people stand if they had the balance. Sometimes I have them sit or eat so stand or sit. I'd have a balloon and I'd pop the balloon

to them in different directions. And their job was to reach to the hit the balloon and hit it back to me. So I'd hit it above their head, I'd hit it to the side, I'd hit it down low. We would do that for 30 seconds to a minute, then we would rest. Or I would take a bunch of pens and I'd put them all

on the floor and I'd drop them on the floor and it's okay without shuffling your feet, bend down and pick up each one of the pens so they have to reach over the left, reach over the right. And then when they stand up, I'd say, now make sure when you stand up, you have really, really good posture.

Don't overestimate their ability to move and what is considered a workout. A lot of these exercises, believe it or not, these people will come back to you the next day and be like, oh, I felt a little bit sore. I put ginger snaps up on a shelf. No, you'd go rich for those. They did it rough.

Yeah, they like ginger snaps. But if you've been listening to this podcast, I'm gonna, we know that Sal's trained Mrs. Johnson a thousand times. And I've trained, she's a super human. Yeah, yeah, she's a human, I don't even reference anybody else, some asshole I work with. Butterscotch disc. Butterscotch disc.

Weather, weather, weather, weather, weather, weather is, yeah, there's originals. That's what they are, weather is religion. Weather's in actress. Yeah, yeah. I tied on a string in front of their face and say, hey, go get it. Oh my god, I guess it too.

Yeah, bands are great too. So I like using bands for people in a band stage. I think that's a- But just oftentimes, you need no resistance at all. You're right. Now, oftentimes- I'm just getting them to move and just think of all the basic things that we take for granted, okay, that we do every day.

Walk sideways down the hall. Yeah. I mean, I swear to God, you know, we will benefit you if you're a trainer and you want to work with people in this age group, the way I learn how to train these people. I could have a retirement home. Well, watch and walk around for a while.

Actually, I volunteered at a couple of retirement homes and did some stuff, and we would do stuff in chairs, so I'd have them sit in a chair. But what I learned how to train people like this was I had an exceptional physical therapist that rented space in my studio. Yeah.

Physical therapist, brilliant at working with people. My best friend was a PT. And when I was just starting as a trainer, he was going through PT school. And so he was actually somebody who I always would use for that. Because they're dealing with most people in advanced age.

And so the stuff that he would do, I'd be like, oh wow. Like he'd give me an exercise and be like, you know, sit around a stability ball and have her just lift her leg and extend the leg of that straight, lift the leg up, extend it all the way out straight on a stability ball and be like, I would have never thought of that. He's like, oh yeah, no, they lose all that control in their hip and then you're just the weight of their leg is enough for them. No, if you're a trainer, if you're a trainer, see if you can volunteer with a physical therapist, tell them to help them. That's great. It's all them to help them.

That's great, actually advice. Watch them, because I watched her for about a year, and then I started working with this population. I learned a shit ton from watching her work with these people. Anyway, look, go to mindpumpfree.com and check out all of our free fitness guides. So we have guides on fat loss, muscle building. We have guides on helping you get a better squat,

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