Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1164: How to Activate Your Chest When Benching, What a New Personal Trainer Needs to Know, Tactics to Overcome Insecurities & MORE

Episode Date: November 16, 2019

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about how to feel activation in chest when benching, how much information you should know as a new personal trainer, if there is anything they would go back and change in their first 3 programs (Anabolic, Performance & Aesthetic), and how to address insecurities. Adam has an addiction to subscriptions. (5:06) Sal using scare tactics on his son. (9:42) Is seasonal affective disorder a real thing? (11:16) How your thermal environment affects your sleep. (14:07) Justin is a big dance guy. (19:09) The health benefits of the lion’s mane mushroom. (23:02) Is milk consumption on the decline? (27:15) Can artificial intelligence predict premature death? (30:05) Mind Pump recommends The Inventor: Out for Blood on HBO. (30:49) The multi-level marketing (MLM) scam that is Beachbody. (34:55) Convoy: The Uber of trucking systems. (42:00) The psychological benefits of exercise. (45:11) #Quah question #1 – When I bench, regular or incline, I don’t feel a lot of activation in my chest. Any tips to feel it more? (48:43) #Quah question #2 - How much information should you know as a new personal trainer? I listen to you guys, but I can’t hold a candle to you. (55:23) #Quah question #3 – Knowing what you know today, is there anything you would go back and change in your first 3 programs? (1:00:05) #Quah question #4 – How would you guys recommend to address insecurities in yourself? (1:07:14) People Mentioned  Eugene Teo (@coacheugeneteo)  Instagram Related Links/Products Mentioned November Promotion: MAPS Performance ½ off!! **Code “GREEN50” at checkout** Effects of thermal environment on sleep and circadian rhythm Visit ChiliPad for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code “MPOOLER” at checkout** 9 Health Benefits of Lion's Mane Mushroom Visit Four Sigmatic for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code “mindpump” at checkout** Dean Foods, America's biggest milk producer, files for bankruptcy The Weston A. Price Foundation Artificial intelligence can predict premature death, study finds The Inventor: Out for Blood in Silicon Valley Mind Pump 1082: The Truth About Beachbody® Convoy raises $400 million to expand its on-demand trucking platform Being physically active might be associated with a greater ability to control negative emotions, study finds Correcting Upper Cross Syndrome to Improve Posture & Health- Intro How to Fix Rounded Shoulders (GONE IN 4 STEPS!) | MIND PUMP Mind Pump TV - YouTube

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Salta Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this episode of Mind Pump, we answer questions asked by people like you. They go to our Instagram page, they post the question. We pick the best ones, and then we answer them. And the way we open the episode is with our introductory conversation. This is where we talk about current events, our lives, and we just have a lot of fun.

You get to know us out. So here's what we talked about in this episode. We start out by talking about Adam's subscription addiction. He subscribes to a lot of things. Yeah. And then doesn't cancel them. Then I talked about a study on the thermal environment and its effect on sleep and circadian rhythm.

Did you know that the right temperature can cut the speed in half in terms of how fast it takes you to fall asleep and double the amount of time that you spend in deep sleep. It makes a massive, massive difference. I did know that. Now we work with a company called Chilly and they make a chili pad and something called an uler.

This is a pad that goes over your bed underneath your sheets. It's water, they use water, and it maintains the perfect temperature. So you set the temperature on your device. Let's say you want it at 64 degrees. It'll leave the warm up or cool down to keep you at the perfect temperature for amazing sleep. And we have a massive discount for you.

It's the Black Friday deal. Here's what you do. Go to chiletechnology.com forward slash mind pump. You can save up to $300 with 25% off the chili pad or 20% off of the uler. So massive, massive discount. Now chili technology, it's CHILI technology.com forward slash mind pump. Then Justin talks about his dance class.

Oh yeah. He's trying to woo his wife. Yeah, a bunch of swingers. He talked about lion's mane. I read a study on lion's mane and it's effect on the nervous system. It actually sped up the amount of time it took rats to heal their nervous system. I speculated that Lions main could probably help your central nervous system adapt faster to working out, as many of you know, the central nervous system is responsible for the

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with the code, mine pump. So get on there and stock up. Then we talked about the Dean Foods bankruptcy filing. This is a company that makes a lot of milk. So they're going out of business, it looks like. Well, I talked about a study talking about artificial intelligence and how it was able to predict people's death.

That's kind of weird. We talked about beach body and multi-level marketing companies, ripoffs. And then we talked about a company called convoy. It's like the Uber of trucking. And I talked about a study on physical activity and how it helps you deal with negative emotions. Then we get into the answer, question and answer portion

of this episode. Here's the first question. This person cannot feel their chest very much when they bench press or do incline presses. So we give our tips in that part of the episode. Next question, how much information do you need to know to start out as a new personal trainer? So we kind of break it down for you.

If you're thinking about being a trainer, we kind of break down what you probably should know to be a good trainer. Next question, this person wants to know if we would ever go back and change some of our first three programs, the original three maps programs, the ones that most people do, maps and Obolic, maps performance, which by the way is 50% off this month, and maps aesthetics.

We talk about what we would and didn't change going back and looking at those programs. The final question, how do we recommend addressing insecurities in yourself? Also I just mentioned, math performance at 50% off. Now, math performance is our workout program that is designed for athletic performance. So, it's a full workout program. So, you do it for like 14 weeks. You lift weights in it, but a lot of the exercises are unconventional and are great for functional performance. So, if you like to work out, but you get bored with the traditional exercises, this is an excellent program.

If you want to be able to move as good as you look, excellent program. Again, it's 50% off here. So you get the discount. Go to mapsgreen.com and use the code green50, g-r-e-n-5-0, no space for the discount. How many things you subscribed to? Oh, God. I'm not a sauté. Including jeans.

Is it, Katrina? Katrina, it's ridiculous problem. So I am the, I am a perfect example of why so many companies move to the EFT model and why it's so brilliant. Like when you read statistics on like the average person that signs up to it like EFT model, which is electronic funds transfer, right?

So somebody who signs up for a membership to a gym, a membership to get their tanning, a membership for streaming service, I am for sure the asshole who falls in the category of signs up for it or does the free trial and then it automatically builds in the monthly donation guy? Yes, and then for a minimum, they give me for a minimum

of what, so the average they say is seven months before somebody decides they don't use it if they cancel it. I for sure, that guy, and if it wasn't for Katrina, I would be that guy for years. Like I remember when we first got together, this is hilarious, right? Funny, you brought this up. So when we first got together and This is hilarious, right? Funny you brought this up.

So when we first got together and she started, like, I don't know how many years it was before, like, you know, she got access to all of my accounts. Like right now she can do whatever. Right. She has my social security. She has access to everything. She kind of manages our, all of our back and stuff, right? And I remember her, like, coming to be like, what is this Xbox membership you're paying for? I've never even seen you play Xbox before. And I'm like, oh no, you know? You just kept it. Yeah, it's like, you know what's building you like $69 right?

And I'm like, oh no, I have no idea. So after that happened, since then, she just now makes an effort to once a year, probably. Perge stuff. Yeah, to purge every tree. Did you, are you the kid that fell for the, do you guys remember in the magazines in the back it would be like 99 CDs for one dollar?

And then after that though, you don't know that they'd be able to, remember that? Oh yeah. Do you remember those things? I do remember those, but those never got me. They didn't get you? No, they didn't get me. It's the stuff that I,

it's always something that I need or want that gets me. And I just end up not using it very much. So those CDs that would do that, that would send the CDs, there was a way to scam them. I can't remember what it was. You canceled right away. You get you order than cans,

because it was like the trial thing. And if you, if you said, they send you like 10 free CDs or something like that. And then it was like a monthly subscription. Yeah, you canceled right before they hit you up again. It was, or you just didn't respond. Or something weird. I told you guys about the best, this was, okay,

I think it was in 2000, not either between 99 and 2000 this happened. Best Buy rolled out this thing, where if you signed up for their internet service for a year, which was like a you know $99 a month type of service thing through them that you automatically got like $300 cash to spend in the store and so what and this for a rocket scientist came up with that for 24 hours Okay, for 24 hours. This was like

People went it went viral and people found out and like everybody was rushing down I remember I was in school So and I think I was in junior college so it had to be a right 99 2001 range and It only lasted 24 hours and I have buddies that came up on like 3000 plus dollars worth of best buy stuff because you could go use different accounts and you could sign up like Seven different annual subscriptions, but the the loophole was you go, you get your $300 cash restore, you go shop all your stuff, then you go

home and you cancel the subscription right away. And so there was it like they lost millions, millions, like in 24 hours. Yeah, because of that, you know, trying to get over on people by doing the how many free things did you get? Be honest. I didn't get anything. my I was at school and my buddies were like texting me or this was before texting so I don't remember what they leave in me messages or whatever right. Pigeons.

Yeah. How did we communicate? How did we communicate with each other before text letters? Yeah, I know. You wrote me letters. Remember you get to talk to people's mom. I got the letter three days later. That's what it was.

Yeah, I opened my mail. Yeah. Remember you remember right letters in school to girls and stuff? Yeah. In between classes you'd like pass the letter that you later, that's what it was. Yeah, I opened my mail. Do you remember, you remember right letters in school to girls and stuff? Like in between classes, you'd like pass through the letter that you folded into some like intricate or a gummig into kids not do the kids not pass notes. I don't, maybe just find just texting class.

I don't know, I would think they still pass notes because I ask your kids, I would think they still, I was sure, I was sure, most teachers. They text, dude. Do they? Yeah, you know what's funny? Teachers don't make kids like put their phones away or put them in their desk or like put them in their...

My kids don't have phones yet. No, I mean, some schools do that, but in between classes and stuff, you could totally do it. And it's not hard for you to, come on, how easy was it for you when the teacher wasn't looking to do? It's funny, too, because my kid yesterday was like, I crumple up and throw it at people.

Oh, that's how you folded yours? Oh, I'd fold my hand. I'd throw a chick. Really? I'd do it all origami. I'd do like an origami like little crane or some cool thing. Just a game that's lame. Yeah, totally just this game.

Yeah, yeah. He is for sure. He is for sure the sixth grader that used to trip the girl. Like you know what I'm saying? She's like walking out of the classroom. She gets it. Yeah.

She's interested. Put a rock in the middle of it, so it flies harder. Yeah. Oh my god. Oh the middle of it so it flies harder. Oh my god. Why? I'm into you. No, my kid yesterday asked me if he could have a snapchat.

So I was like, really? Oh. Oh, he came and asked you. Yeah, and you know, he's like, he's trying to be cool about it and trying to like close me. He's like, hey, can I get a snapchat? I'm like, why? Why do you want a snapchat?

Oh, you know, so we can text? You can text on your phone. Well, no, nobody uses the word. I'm like, no, dude do I want a Snapchat? Oh, you know what I'm saying? We can text on your phone. Well, nobody uses the word, I'm like, no dude, I know what Snapchat's for, buddy. You're not gonna get Snapchat. Wow, do you, do you, is this, I mean, I feel like the segue to that is the dick pick talk.

Is that what comes to mind? I had that conversation. Oh, you have. And maybe I went the wrong way, but I tried to scare him. You know, I'm like, listen, if you ever get a new photo on your phone of someone who's underage, you could go to jail for fucking pedophilia. So he's like, oh, frick him out. And if you ever send a photo, you can even get your ass in trouble.

You'll be on a list forever. Here's a good site for stock images. This is what I use. Yeah. You want to make it believe it. Totally okay, so I did somebody else's dick. Somebody else's dick, not mine. It's not the same skin tone, this is weird.

Yeah, I don't tan that part. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Everything looks different. Yeah. Anyway, dude, does the changing, like seasons affect you guys at all, emotionally? Wow. That's a deep question. You know what I'm not sure, you're not

to go deep with it. I mean, it gets darker earlier. I mean, I get in a, actually November is my favorite time of the year for sure. I thought it was T-shirt time. I was using it that came off. That's my favorite time of the week. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, I don't know. I felt, yeah, maybe just because you're just like inside more and I don't know, like it, you're not as like happy and jovial. I just don't, I don't like, maybe just because you're just like inside more and I don't know like it You're not as like happy and jovial. I just don't I don't like it when it gets darker or January, January, February, winter months more depressing for me than November, December, November, December coming into winter Super so I love this cuz it's your birthday. No, it's not I hated my birthday month if you knew me well You would know that I hated my birthday months growing up So it's not like it was something I'm excited about. So you hate your favorite birthday? I mean, your favorite month?

Dude, you got a pony though. I did, I didn't get a pony asshole. I didn't get a horse either. It wasn't me. It was my sibling. Oh, yeah, my sister. You use it? No.

I wasn't big enough to ride the horses. But I've always been a terrible gift receiver. Yeah, I know that. Yeah, so that part, like it gives me anxiety around my birthday. When people are gonna try to get things from me, I'm kinda the same way. Yeah, don't do it, please.

Really? Yeah, yeah, so I don't, I'm a good gift receiver. Yeah, give me gifts. My birthday's actually tomorrow, right? So I, I, Is it tomorrow? Holy shit. Tomorrow to win this air, right? So tomorrow I'm tomorrow holy shit tomorrow to win this airs right?

So tomorrow it's actually Katrina's birthday that reminds the day after. So when this air is when it was 39 38 38 38 about that. How bad is that good for you man? It speeds up now the downhill slide. That happened like eight years ago. Oh, no, it speeds up even faster. You know, say you're gonna I you're gonna, you're gonna fall apart. I could see, I have skittered tomorrow.

No, I was dealing with that stuff a while ago, but no, what I like about these months is the weather first and sports, those two things, and then the holidays, I do like Christmas lights, and I do like Christmas music, and I love food and drink and all that stuff. So the celebrations, I like that part. And so, and I'm also a winter guy.

So I like snowboard, I like winter clothes. So I'm more of a winter person than I am summer. I know you're more of a summer guy. I love nog. I like heat. I like, you like nog. It sounds like a slaying term for like getting head. You know what I mean?

I like to give you some dog. Anyway, I, uh, I love heat. I like humidity. I like being on the walk around in shorts or whatever. So when it starts to cool down and get dark, I kind of get a little sad. You know, I mean, my people are from the sun basically. I met a terrain. So maybe that's what's going on.

Yeah, I'm not sure. But it did. I want music for this. Why? Why? I don't know. Anyway, it did. I want music for this. Why? I don't know. Anyway, it did. It prompted me, because yesterday I was talking to Jessica about this and I'm like, man, it's so dark.

It makes me whatever. It's colder. And it prompted me to do, of course, what I always do. Research on, you know, the weather does this, everything free. Yeah, anything will do that, right? So I started, and I went down this rabbit hole, and I started getting into temperature, thermal environment and how it affects our sleep.

It's actually, besides the brightness of the room, your thermal environment is like one of the most important determining factors on how good your sleep is going to be. Changes in your thermal environment, too hot or too cold, they actually make a huge difference. Like I thought it was like, oh, a little bit difference if it's extreme. I don't know, even if it's outside of the ideal, and they say that the ideal temperature for sleep, the thermal environment, is between 60 to 67 degrees Fahrenheit. When they start to go outside of that, increased wakefulness, decreased time in deep sleep,

even if you don't have insomnia or anything, even just being like a few degrees in or out of that. You hear that, honey? That's why I like our house at 64. She fights me all the time on that, man. Well, there's a very interesting. I never woke up and be like, it's too cold. Never, like ever.

Well, so one of the reasons why the ullur and the chili pad are so brilliant, because they don't just cool or warm your bed, you set the temperature and it keeps it there. Arguably saved our relationship. Really? Wow. Yeah, because that was the only, that's amazing.

That was the compromise was she re-keeps the house like in the 70s and I couldn't sleep with that until we got that. So I can keep it super cool. Which is funny now though that it's cold. She's stolen it over to her side of the bed and she used it as a heater too. You know like in the 50s

they used to have separate beds because of this. I literally thought about doing this. Almost got shot for that. Yeah, have separate beds because of this. You know, I've brought that. I literally thought about doing this. Almost got shot for that. Yeah, having separate beds. Yeah, every movie and every see-through. It makes so much more sense now. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, but that's why I like them so much

because it keeps it at that temperature. Because if you get like a heating blanket, you ever use a heating blanket? It's, well, you guys don't like, you guys are freezer, like, I've used one before. Anyway, it gets hot in the middle of the night. It's too hot.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or something that cools you off, then you gotta do something. No, the uler actually manages your core temperature. That's what I'm saying. It gives a feedback on how hot you are. That's one of the things I thought was the dough piss thing about it was once you find your sweet spot, if you track it and monitor it, especially if you have somebody who like, if you got all the tools, right, that monitor sleep and see how good your sleep was, you can find that sweet

spot because I'm sure there's an individual variance for everybody on like what their exact temperature is. Once you find that, that sucker just manages it no matter how hot or cold it is outside your blankets, which is. What it makes, this is how big of a difference it makes. I just looked up to some of the statistics. When they do tests on this, people fall asleep 98% faster when the temperature is just right. Within that range, I gave you. And they'll up to double their deep sleep. So it's like, if you ever go to sleep and you get your eight hours and you wake up and you're just exhausted,

it can make a drastic difference. If it doubles your deep sleep, you get your eight hours and you wake up and you're just exhausted. It can make a drastic difference. If it doubles your deep sleep, you can literally wake up with less sleep, less hours, but feel more rested. So it's like you go to bed, you get six hours of sleep, but you still got more deep sleep than you did before. Yeah, a lot of times I notice that,

like when you really hit like that, that perfect temperature, like it's mixed, like you wake up and feel refreshed instead of like just just too much sleep. A lot of times that happens to me. Inflammation, too, because while you're sleeping, there's a couple things that happen. First, I just read an article on this. There's fluid that bathes the brain while you're sleeping. I think what it's getting rid of toxins and nourishing the brain and inflammatory markers in the body.

If your sleep is not ideal, go up. If your sleep is ideal, your inflammation tends to be more at that ideal state. So that's one of the things I notice. Like if I get better sleep, better quality, I wake up and I'm just less deaf. You know what I'm actually moving interrupted quite a bit.

And it, well, ever since now it's been getting cold and like, so Courtney's actually taking my, we're on to her side. Because I had one just for, for my side of the bed. Why do you let her do that? Because I mean, it's, it like, she's cold or whatever. And that, that means way more blanket, so those bullshit I don't want. So this way it was able to raise her, her temperature up.

Oh, I see. And so that was great. So now that she's accounted for, but for me, it's like, you know, I still have that, you know, inconsistent temperature throughout the night. So at some point, like, I'll get like hot or stuffy or whatever. Where pajamas? Fuck no, I don't wear pajamas. He's a big night-counter guy.

Nah. He's a big night-counter guy. Just nice bosters. I picture him in the long, the long sleeve ones that, you know, that's a long shirt that goes to your ankles. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, tell me about these dance classes that I heard you.

Oh, dance, dance revolution guy. Yeah, man, hey, so I just thought it'd be a great idea. I mean, this is kind of along the lines of what, when Adam was talking about reading with Katrina, like, I was just trying to, like, make opportunities to hang out with my wife and do something different, right? You romantic son of a bitch. I know, I'm such a son. You know what, he read the paper, you read the, the, the, the,

watch the notebook together and you know, you know, the ad said salsa, he's like, oh, chips and salsa. Oh, I'm hungry. No, it's dancing, I mean, cheese. Yeah, so there, there is, there's a place down in town Santa Cruz that teaches like ballroom dancing, swing and salsa and all that kind of stuff. And I actually like back in the day in high school,

like my girlfriend and I had taken classes and went to all these shows and stuff and was like really into to swing dancing. I got into that for a minute and was like, it's like I kind of pitched it to Courtney and she was just like, like all resistant at first, but then was like, okay, because when we dance together,

it is like two different animals, like completely in different beats. It's weird. Well, you're a good dancer, she not as good. Well, she's good, but has a different, like, I don't know, she's hearing something different. And then it's so, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? This is she's hearing something different. And then it's something. You know what I'm saying?

You know what I'm saying? This is the most polite way you can say she sucks at dancing. It's just like, right. See, you're kind of, it bounces a lot. Yeah, she's the beat different. I like kind of groove with it. She's kind of bouncing a lot. And so I'm like, we gotta organize this.

Chaos that we're presenting to everybody. So I figured we get formal training Like I've been through it. It's it's great. It's fun. So what kind of dance can kind of bust it out? We'll do a west coast swing. Oh, you're doing swing. That's awesome. Oh, don't you totally signed up thinking you're hooking up with another couple That's what you guys did. I know you did bro. Yeah Well, that went right over your head. Did, I was trying to stand up next to him. All the lessons from on it and kind of go in that direction. Shit.

Well, actually, no, it's real swing. Have you taken any yet? No, yeah, I mean, I have personally. Yeah, like I've learned, and this is like a long time ago. So it would just be like kind of relearning the whole thing. But I mean, I played in a rockabilly band for like a hot minute and then I really got into that. That's kind of like, it all kind of feeds into like,

I have an old classic truck that's, you know, 56 is getting like rust and shit now, but like all this stuff I wanna kind of bring back. I was into it. Now, did you surprise or what this or did you ask or hate you wanna do this? Yeah, kind of both. Like I kind of already had made the decision for us.

Like I do that a lot. And then like pitch it to her after the fact and then she kind of like begrudgingly agrees and then is like, oh, this is such a great idea. I'm like, I knew I knew you'd come around. Oh, what a good husband. So have you started? You've been going?

No, he said no. Oh, I thought you said you started. No, it starts in a couple of weeks. I would see one of the things I love so much about Jessica is she Doesn't dance just like me which is wonderful You know fun it is going to a wedding with her is just stare at people and talk about studies No, we get that or and we get drunk. That's what we sit in the back and we're just you know ball of fun It's a good time for me. Yeah

It's a good time for me. Have you guys ever seen me dance? I'm almost as bad as Adam. It's pretty bad. I'm bad, but the druger I get, I forget. You know what I'm saying? That's how I look at it. No, I was all in, dude. I'm doing the worm. I'm doing all that shit.

Now, my ex used to say I was like, I was fighting. She's like, what do you, what do you do? So you look like you're boxing. Well, I don't know what to do with my arms, do you know what I mean? Katrina claims that she can gauge exactly how many drinks I've had before, based off of my dancing. Oh, he's only like two in.

Wait till he gets about six, so he gets really good at starting with the shoulders. That's what she says. Yeah, she goes, no, the arms are coming up. Oh, what it is, your stiffest fuck when you first start, but once you get about six of you, all of a sudden, you're this great dancer, I don't know, or starts throwing spins in there. That's hilarious. Dude, more studies.

I got some more cool stuff to share with you guys. Lions, Maine, you guys have heard me talk about that before. So Lions, Maine, it's hilarious dude. I got more studies I got some more cool stuff to share with you guys lions main you guys have heard me talk about that Before I so lions main it's a mushroom. It's got lots of brain health benefits cognitive boost It's you know, it's known as a natural Neutropic but I I'm gonna pull this up I'm gonna history on that like why I got a name like that it looks like a line. Yeah, it actually looks like it Yeah, it's a really weird looking mushroom Yeah, a lot of these mushrooms are named after the way or plants are named after the way they look

or after what they do. For example, I believe ashwaganda means horse piss. If I'm not mistaken. Wow. Yeah, because it smells, like the people who discovered it said it smells like, so they call the, and you ain't wrong Adam. Hornigot weed, you guys wanna who discovered it said it smells like, so they called it, and you went wrong Adam. Hornigote weed, you guys want to guess why they named it that?

Because goats were banging each other like after they ate it. Correct, yeah. That's what they noticed, so they called it Hornigote weed. Oh wow. So anyway, lion's mane, it looks like a lion's mane, but check this out. So I'm going to read some stuff that I wrote down here. Research found that lion's mane mushroom may help speed recovery from these types of injuries

by stimulating the growth and repair of nerve cells. So the injuries that I'm referring to are CNS or nerve type injuries. So they're finding that when they give it to, and they did this with rats, with rats given lion's main, reduced the recovery time by 23 to 41%. That's a fast boost in recovery from nerve type injuries. So here's where I'm going

with this. So you guys know how forciematic has the coffee now with lion's mane. So I've been using it. And I've been noticing that I definitely feel I've always taken, I like taking lion's mane with caffeine. I've done this in the past, but now I'm doing it kind of consistently, and I'm noticing that my recovery is seems to be getting a little bit better. And I wonder if it's the CNS recovery effects of the lines, mate. That'd be interesting. Because you're not just affecting the muscle

when you work out, the central nervous system needs to recover as well and adapt as well. Now with something like that, do you think there's benefits to consistently using it and allowing it to build up something like that, do you think there's benefits to consistently using it and allowing it to build up in your system, or do you think there's benefits to using it for a while, then coming off of it and using a while just like you would use it after a real heavy day that you'd use. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

just like does your body get adapted to it and then the benefits start to diminish, therefore, would it be advantageous for you to use consistently for while, wing yourself off, use again? Or is it like some other things that I've seen where you actually, the more you use and the more consistent you are, it has more of a compounding effect on what your thoughts. The only supplement that I've ever really read about that seems to be beneficial to take relatively consistently is creating. Other than that, I don't know of any science that points either direction, but here's my experience. My experience with adaptogens and herbs are,

they typically have a very, their effects typically are felt about two to three weeks in, and then they tend to diminish about two months later. And this seems to be true for most things that I've tried out. So I don't have any science supporting this, but I think it's a good idea to cycle. To cycle, and it does make sense that the body would adapt. You know, if you're taking it adapt to

gin, it's allowing your body's, you know, it's improving your body's ability to adapt to stress. But once your body kind of gets used to that signal, it'll recalibrate. And then you don't want to get stuck like you do with caffeine, where you take caffeine, once you adapt, and now you got to take it to be normal, I wouldn't want to be in that same predicament with any other supplement, you know what I mean? Where it's like, when you stop taking it and you feel like shit and you got it.

So I would say take it for a couple months and then go off of it. Now, Lian's main, I only use about a few days a week because I only have coffee a few days a week. So I'm assuming that I can take it for much longer than if I used it every single day type of deal. But it's weird, I'm noticing like these recovery effects and I haven't exactly pinpointed it to that,

but after reading these studies on the central nervous system or on nerve health, I'm thinking, hmm, you know, because a lot of people don't, they don't give enough credit to the, the CNS and that's its role in your strength and performance when it plays a massive, you know, massive role. Speaking of feeling like shit, you're, you're tummy in mind here. You guys familiar with the company Dean Foods?

Do you know who that is? No. So they're the largest producer. Sausage of milk. Oh, close, Justin. Yeah. Yeah. He just, he just got it on his bike.

Yeah. Yummy. It's just randomly threw that out there. So I was like, oh, well, I guess there's Dean sausage, right? Okay. That's what I mean, Dean sausage. Okay, okay, okay. So I see what I was like, where did he get

the fucking sausage out of that? You guys don't live in my mind. I can't. So they're the largest producer milk, actually just filed for bankruptcy. Why? Over the last decade, they've reported over 38% loss in revenue,

which is millions on millions and millions of dollars. It's because so many Americans are drinking milk. Really? Yeah. Yeah. Milk is an interesting one. If your body is okay with milk, if you tolerate it well it's it's drunk milk is an interesting one if you're if your Body is okay with milk if you tolerate it well and you have good quality milk. It's very healthy. There's just weird

Myth out there that milk is like bad for you. Oh, well, I think I think it's we're the only animal that drinks the milk of other And I hate that stupid I think that yeah, no, I think we do a lot of the weird shit too Yeah, yeah, no, I think that What's happened? It, and I bet you, and I don't know the stats, this is me just guessing, you would probably see a rise in like whole natural milk, like people that are doing so that, so I think it was the stuff that's being pasteurized and you're 1% or 2% or you're skiing on organic.

Yeah, exactly. I think you would see probably a decline in that because more and more information has been provided in regards to that and how if you are gonna drink milk, you aren't lactose intolerant, how beneficial like whole organic milk would technically be. It's a healthy food. West and the price identified this a long time ago.

Now, if you can't look, if you're like me, I can't tolerate dairy, then it's terrible. It's terrible for you. But if you're one of those people, like northern Europeans tend to have a high tolerance to milk, there's certain parts of Africa that have a high tolerance to milk. You can, it's very, very healthy for you. But yeah, but even then, isn't there like, like some people that have an intolerance can

also then tolerate like goat milk, for instance, like different variations of milk? Yeah, so it could be like that. Now I'm not good with goat milk, for instance. Like, that's the different variations of milk. Yeah, so it could be like that. Now, I'm not good with goat milk, although it's a little better for me than cow milk, but you're absolutely right. And some people can't tolerate pasteurized milk, but are perfectly fine with raw milk. Yes, and I've seen more often than not that.

Yeah, that's called. Now, raw milk has some lactase in it, which is the enzyme that breaks down the lactose, and it's got beneficial bacteria in it. You know if you leave raw milk out, if you get raw milk from healthy, no, it doesn't spoil. It turns into buttermilk or whatever.

Oh, where does that? Yeah. And that's all because it's non-pasturized, which is, and the whole history behind that is so silly anyway. So, trip off this, right? So I'm reading this article yesterday about this AI predictor computer, and doctors were inputting information into this AI machine.

So they gave it one, almost 2 million ECG logs from people. And the AI machine predicted with scary accuracy, people's mortality from that. So they got, yeah, because they give it all these parameters. And the AI machine was able to, with scary accuracy, predict who was people who would die within the next year and people who would survive. Just off of that. Yikes.

So I'm gonna get crazy. It's gonna happen. Just off of that. Yikes. So I'm looking crazy at that. Wow. Stay away from me. Did you guys ever watch that documentary? I just watched it. It's been around for a while now. I finally made my way to it because my buddy said it's called, I want to say something, blood or blood business.

It was about the girl here in the Silicon Valley that came up with a company that was valued at billions of dollars. Did you watch that documentary? No, but I know all about her. Total false. Bro. Total false valuation. Billion.

It was that you got evaluated at billions of bills. She was, they were saying that she was like her, she was getting like all kinds of accolades and nobody checked. Yeah. Nobody checked. It was a, the documentary is fascinating. You should watch. She was a good presenter.

She sounded smart. Right. Young, you should watch. She was a good presenter, she sounded smart, young, you know, charismatic woman. Yeah, young charismatic woman from Silicon Valley, so everybody's like, oh my God, this is gonna be a huge blockbuster. They were calling her the next Steve Jobs, like all this stuff.

Now what was her products supposed to do? It was, so it was the idea was that with a prick of a pen, you know, like the blood pricks, your finger. It analyzes your blood. It would analyze this, analyze just a massive test. It's just everything you could think of that we would go in and do like a normal blood draw for, wait for two weeks or whatever to get your feedback

and then like instant. Yeah, like almost instant. You put it through this machine. It would do all this stuff. And it was a disaster. What was happening behind the scenes for them to even be able to do that. And then they were also finding out how inaccurate

that it really was. Meanwhile, they were pitching to even be able to do that. And then they were also finding out how inaccurate that it really was. Meanwhile, they were pitching it as like the future of healthcare that was literally bullshit. Yeah, complete. How crazy is that, though? Yeah, well that many, because here's the part that's crazy about it. It's not just that she fooled a lot of people.

She fooled a lot of really smart people. Yeah. Cause she got a lot of money. These are people with a lot of money. They were just so excited at the potential of her being young and a girl. And like, you know, in this powerful company that was emerging.

Yeah, the company was Theranos. That's right. Yes, yeah. Out for blood, it was the name of the actual documentary. She's flocked to. This girl will never be able to get money ever again. Well, not only that, I heard that she, I thought she had some stuff. a documentary. She's flocked to this girl will never be able to get money ever again. Well, not only that, I heard that she,

I thought she had some stuff. I thought they were gonna do, she was potentially gonna serve time, dude. I thought she was, she's going through, she's like the fire festival guy. Yeah. Oh, there. Now, the defense, I guess the way they have defended her

in it is that, you know, her intentions were pure. It wasn't like she was trying defraudently, and when you watched the documentary, you were just trying to keep the momentum going. Yes, I mean, her intentions were pure, what she was trying to accomplish, and then I think it just got out of control, and that there's like you blize,

built on lies, and built on lies, and believing that you could finally get it. I mean, they had this, they showed some of the like, because it needed it all to be completely automated. And they were gonna, they rolled it out to Walgreens. Like, it was crazy. It was already, they already made massive deals with Walgreens.

They had already started to roll it out there. And then patients were coming in and then, you know, to kind of like mask what was going on that the machine wasn't working. They started drawing blood again. And patients were coming in and being like, wait a second, I thought I just had to do a prick. Oh no, for the test that you wanted,

you needed to draw blood. And I mean, they were trying, they were pulling the wool over so many people's eyes for a long time. Wow. But again, I think that, you know, their, her defense is that she really was trying to accomplish it.

It wasn't like it was a big Ponzi scheme from the get-go where she was just trying to bullshit. I think she really believed in the technology that they could do it and accomplish it Imagine the future we have something like and imagine if you're in that position Yeah, and all of a sudden you're put in the spotlight all these people are saying how awesome you are you're getting all this money It's like okay. I could see how your ego would make it hard to stop the momentum You know what I mean to be like a second. I'm not ready. Yeah, we need a lot more testing.

Like while everybody's just like demanding it. Well, it's to Justin's point too. Like I really think there was a lot of push behind her. There was right during this movement of us really wanting to have this powerful young woman in this position in Silicon Valley. So I think there was a lot of people that were leveraging and off of the image of her.

Of course. Or anything else, which has been humongous. Yeah. So right products. You had exploded. So funny how agendas like that, you know, fucking, you know, that reminds me. Speaking of shitty companies,

what's going on with Beachbody? Oh. Well, they're eliminating their streaming service. Transition. Transition. And yeah, yeah, that was a great transition right there. I was going to go a different direction, but I liked that one. No, I saw that article too.

And they can't think they're live streaming service or whatever. Like they're streaming workout. They are, but they're replacing it with something else coming out. I actually just, what was this on? I just read this. I wish I would have shared this. I wish I would have read it right before to share this better with you. But I read an article on them just a whole like bio

on the CEO and how it's totally an MLM. Oh, yeah. No, that's where they get the majority of their money. Yes. It's coaches. Well, there's an element that's an MLM. It's an MLM. The element two where they just sell programs to the public.

Well, because I know the programs are some of the public is structured MLM style. Really? If you buy P90X or insanity? Yeah, but more than what? Most people that are buying it, like most people aren't doing this. Oh, beachbody.com.

Oh, I want this program. Buy. Most people got influenced by a coach or somebody on social that's, you know, transformation, and they teach them. Like they teach the methodology is, they get you to follow the program, take all the shakes, do all of stuff, and they want you to share your journey, and that is your way to get other people involved in it.

And you can make money off of selling them the shakes, you can make money off of selling them the programs, and then you can make money doing a downline. So it's not just like coming off the infomercial into like very purchase. They're minimum of their billions of dollars in revenue that they're worth and they're making is coming from that. Most of it is coming from the MLM stride.

I know the program sales alone are something like 600 million or 700 million. Just the program. So that's insane. But most of that is coming from what I'm saying right now. It is hustling it, like a coach is hustling it to, they have like over, I can't remember what the number was, but it's, I think I believe it's hundreds of thousands of coaches.

Maybe you could look that up to, like, how many beach body coaches exist. It's like, for sure, tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of coaches out there, and they're all structured MLM style, and that's why most people, when we did that episode about beach body and we kind kinda called them all out, I must have got, I don't know, a hundred to 200 or so DMs and we're around there, a people of mail. And they are telling me like,

400,000, 400,000 coaches bro. Beach body coaches. Yeah, so imagine 400,000 coaches, you know, quote unquote, that are out there trying to sell programs. Like, even if 400,000 of them sell three or four, do these multi-level marketing companies are insane to me? Because you guys remember herbal life,

herbal life, which is just shitty supplements. A lot of people haven't even heard of them, but that company too, billions of dollars. Well, peach body's even smarter because they have the shakeology is underneath them. Yeah, right. So they teach the coaches to drink the shakes, go through the programs, share your journey,

get a sell it to others, and also try and get other coaches involved so they can make money. And that's how you buy the, is it like other MLMs? Do you buy into the product, and then you sell it out of your own? That's so funny. Such a hustle, bro.

And I wonder why MLM still exists. Because they're not, they're never gonna go away because it works. Yeah, it works. People make money. Yeah. People make quick money, you know, especially. But most of them don't though.

No, not making a little huge money consistently. But some like the very top do. Like, here's the thing. Like, tell me one. This is why it's smart. Because in any of you, and this is what, and they even teach most MLMs teach you to do this, right?

They teach you to go start with your family and friends first. And if you're an influential person, like you, South, for example, you have a lot of influence on your brothers and sisters and your aunts and uncles, they respect you and who you are. If you joined an MLM, it would not be hard to convince probably five to 10, maybe 15

of your family members to buy into your vision and what you're trying to do. And instantly just by them buying in, you automatically scale up and are already in a certain making money. If just a couple of your family members go out and do the same thing, reach out to five or 10 of those people. So, you guys know anybody personally

that's ever made a living off of MLM? No. No, but I've been pitched to I saw a lot of her just a million times. My dad, my stepdad has literally done them all and I grew up around watch. That's why I have such a disdain for it. Yeah, because you know, those that know I've shared that we grew up, you know, not poor, but we were, you know, definitely by no means middle class, right?

Yeah, you had a horse, but not, but we were definitely by no means middle class, right? You had a horse, but not groceries. The horse ain't the groceries. We're asking you to eat the horse. So, and I watched my family struggle and buy into, I mean, I've seen that we've done everything from the real estate MLMs to the, you know, protein bars to shakes to the energy drinks, to the monovies, to the... Everything.

Everything. Amway. Yes. All of them. I've seen my... It's so great. Like, you remember stepbrothers? Like, this was totally what happened to me at like this dinner with everybody. They just, all of a sudden, they like pulled out, not a projector or anything, but it's like,

prestige, worldwide, worldwide. We had like watched this like presentation and then he's handing out like all this information, packets and little things of, I think it's either Mona V or something else and I'm just like, oh my God, right now, like you're doing this now, it was so uncomfortable. If people at the top of them are rich as fuck.

Yeah, that's not very many. Yeah, not at all. No, no, no. I've known a lot of people who've gone in, and the kind of money's in creating it. And I don't want to, I mean, look, the people that I've known who've gone into these MLMs are the same kind of people that they want that get rich quick.

Oh, they pray on people just like my parents were. I mean, they they they're easily manipulated by somebody putting out some wack ass study or, you know, show them some sort of a graph on how they can scale and make money. And they just they're they're easily bought into that. They're naive or gullible hustle, naive or gullible. And all it takes is one person who's driving the Ferrari or it brings you over to their mansion and presented. And let me tell you a lot of the people that are making tons of money,

they already had a network. For example, there's no doubt in my mind if Mind Pump was like this and wanted to, you know, try and start an MLM, we'd make a fuck ton of money. We have a network of people, okay? Now, mind you, we'd also turn off 90% of our audience, but it doesn't matter, 10% of our audience

is still a big enough number that we get fucking filthy rich off of it. But then you would be that scumbag that took advantage of that your network that you've built the right way probably, and then you turn around just to make money off of people. You know, you know, you have a boat, mine pumps pyramid skiing.

You see those cars on my boat. You ever see cars driving around, you see the big sticker on the window? Like, you have a verbal life for, you know, Mona V. I don't know, man. It's usually like a van, 1997, you know, van or something like that. Like a poor people.

Speaking of companies, I read this, there's another company called Convoid. You guys know who Convoid is? No. Okay, so they just got 400 million investment, right? And I think that it puts them up to like value. They, I think they've taken on like 600 something million over the last year or two. They've been around I think four years and they're starting to really scale fast right

now. And they are basically the uber of trucking systems. So, going, starting to privatize trucking. So, right now, you have your big trucking, like, shipping stuff across the country. And they are building a uber version of that. So, you want an app and you say, hey, I want to ship this kind of stuff to wherever? Yeah, I imagine it looks just like the uber version, except for now, if you're a trucker and you have your truck in license, instead of working for a company,

it's going to be, it's going to be, it's going to be, yeah, no, it's very brilliant. It'd be smart for you to do it privately now and use Uber to just pick up and drop things and get paid as, wow, that's smart. It's brilliant. That is super, super interesting. I love that.

I can very decentralized approach to that love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that.

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I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I already doing. So it's been an effect and it's really starting to scale now. So it's something we're gonna see in the future. That's, you can't stop that. You can't stop that.

Cause what's gonna happen is all these old companies are gonna lobby against it. Cause it's gonna be competing just like the way the taxi industries, you know, there it is right there. Wow, look at that. So digital freight network, interesting. I like it, man. I think that kind of technology is really, really good for the consumer. And you know, at the end of

the day, the consumer is going to dictate whether or not it's a good thing. So if it's growing, it means it's doing a good job. And not just a consumer. I would imagine this is a really cool thing for truckers. I mean, unless you're a part of a union in a group and you're already whatever established, but I think for a lot of people that are probably getting in that space, the opportunity to work for other companies, you know, it's like, oh, I don't just ship for Safeway. I can do, run something for Safeway, office deep over here.

I can be picking up different routes on different days and then also manage your time. I know I have my best friend's dad as a trucker and one of the things with that, man, you're at the mercy of their shipping lanes, their times that they need stuff shipped. And a lot of the hours are awful. And again, at the mercy of when the company needs

that product or whatever shipped to wherever, where this is probably going to open that up for a lot more flexibility. It's funny about that is that we have a pretty, it feels like a large audience of truck drivers that listen to our show. You guys get messages by them? Yeah, I get them all the time.

All the time and a lot of them we use our like maps prime or prime prime pro actually to help them because they're sitting for so long. That's actually a good point. That's a good point and this is again, I was just speculating that most truck drivers would like this. Maybe they wouldn't be interesting to hear their feedback. So DM me, I'd be curious to hear. Yeah, if it was like taxi drivers.

Right. They're all pissed. Right. So I'm going to say, yeah, if it's something that you guys are excited about or something that you're actually more worried about, so I'd love to hear feedback. Interesting. Well, another cool study on exercise.

This one was actually quite interesting. And you know, a lot of times these studies come out and just kind of confirm what we've already known, but it's good to see the science catching up. So the title of this article that I read, it was in psypost.org, it's a psychology website. It's being physically active might be associated with a greater ability

to control negative emotions. And so what they found was that women who are physically active are better at decreasing the intensity of negative feelings. So you know what we talked about on the last episode about your filter, just like your mental filter, how you process things that are happening around you. They found in this study that women who are fit or exercise regularly, the same negative images

that other study people were looking at or whatever, the other participants, they perceive them as less negative and it was the activity level that did that. So just because you're fit and healthy, you will actually improve your, how you perceive even negative things in your life. Is that like emotional stability? Yes.

I'd say is that due to the self confidence boost in working out, that's where that's coming from, like what's... Who knows? Yeah, it could be just better health, it could be better health, it could be better... I would think it would be better. It's encouraging the stress that you're holding onto. I would think it would be the, when you work out and you first get involved, think of your client that you never really trained before, you get them involved in it.

Probably one of the most common things I got back from clients is they're boosting just confidence because, wow, I have control of this. My weight isn't just, I'm not naturally fat, I didn't inherit this, I have control of this. My weight isn't just, I'm not naturally fat. I didn't inherit this. I have control of this. I can make better decisions for my life. I can feel the difference. I think it's very empowering for most people. And I think that self-confidence is probably

what makes you all so. I would agree. I would 100% agree. Now the study didn't say that in particular. I think there's a lot of different factors, but I would agree with you Adam. Like the psychological benefits of exercise are never talked about.

But here you are in a gym or wherever, working out so you're putting in work, you're putting in effort, you're getting a result at the other end of it. That is a very effective way of boosting your confidence and making you view other challenges differently. Right, filling in power. I can control this.

Something that's something that's challenging challenging is we all know that weight loss can be extremely challenging and most people struggle with it most their life. And one of my most rewarding parts about being a trainer is unlocking that for somebody. 100%. It's giving them the tools to know that, hey, you have control of this and you can do this.

And when you do that, especially if you're somebody who's struggled with weight, majority of your life, and then you've, you've accomplished now changing that. Holy shit, it would totally make me, at least I think that was what would really make people look view every other obstacle in their life or adversity that they get hit with differently. Like, listen, I had something else in my life that I didn't think I could fix and I learned how to do it. I put the work in. I saw the return. And it might not even be a conscious thought. You know what I mean? Just that you're practicing that feeling

of overcoming challenge, overcoming challenge. You get the result that you put in with the effort that you put in. So I would agree. This clause brought to you by Organify. For those days you fall short on getting your organic veggies or whole food nutrition, Organify fills the gap with laboratory tested,

certified, organic superfoods to help give your health a performance the added edge. Try Organified totally risk-free for 60 days by going to Organify.com. That's O-R-G-A-N-I-F-I.com and use a coupon code MindPump for 20% off at checkout. First question is from Justin Cone 805. When I bench regular or incline, I don't feel a lot of activation in my chest. Any tips to feel it more? Yeah, so when you think about pressing with a barbell,

you wanna understand the action of the pecs. So what the pecs are doing is they're pulling your upper arm, so up above your elbow, closer to the midline of your body. And through that action, your arms are pressing the bar up. Now your triceps and your shoulders are also involved. But knowing that the chest, bring the elbows together. What you could do with the barbell is, when you grip the barbell,

create some internal tension. Like you're gripping the bar and you're trying to bring your hands closer together. Maintain that tension as you're like you're gripping the bar and you're trying to bring your hands closer together maintain that tension as you're benching and you should feel more activation in the chest. So I'm actually glad this question came up because I got tagged a bunch of times on a post that are a really smart trainer posted um from what I could see I shouldn't say really I don't know him. I looked through some of his content before I commented uh and thought he seemed to be putting out for the most part, pretty solid information.

But I really did not like the post he did for this reason because I would argue that the number one reason why clients of mine could not feel chest press both in client or flat bench in their chest and they felt it predominantly in their shoulders and their triceps is because they're protracted forward and they're pressing with their shoulders and their arms and they're not engaging the chest. And so the thing that this guy was talking about, that it was, this is the type of stuff that annoys me in our space, is he was kind of cracking down on the trainers that cue the state, keep your shoulders in a retracted position and lock it in that position and do a chest press. Now, that's a cue that I actually teach a lot.

And the reason why I teach that is for the exact reason of this question right here, because most people just don't even have that concept. They don't realize they already have kind of forward shoulders, they get under a chest press, it's a pushing forward movement. And so they never even get them shoulder. They're shoulders back. They're just pushing the bar. They're just pushing the bar. And then of course the body defaults to the most common pattern for them, which is shoulders and triceps to do the pushing motion. And they don't know how to retract, press the shoulders then begin the pressing motion. Now his argument was that's a terrible cue to teach clients. You don't want to keep the humerus stuck in that position

and it should be able to be fluid from back to front. If that's all the only exercise you ever did, maybe. Right. There's a lot of exercise. Yeah, and not only that, but it's a high level cue that he's taking something that I think benefits the majority of people is teaching them to learn to retract, to press your shoulders and hold in that position is teaching them to learn to retract, to press your shoulders, and hold in that position, to press, to learn how to then engage the chest properly. Then when you have that, then you can freely allow the shoulder to move from a retracted to a protracted position.

This reminds me a lot of teaching the seated row. So you've talked about this before on the show where when I first teach a client to do a seated row who doesn't know how to retract the shoulders, a lot of times I would get there and I would hold, I'd pin their shoulders back and I'd keep them in this kind of fixed position to get them that to understand how to squeeze the back. Now, when I have an advanced lifter, I allow them to exaggerate the protection forward and then retract because the lats are responsible for part of that and since we're doing a back exercise

I want to take it through full range of motion. So with a more Intermediate to advance lifter I cue differently than I kill with a cue with a beginner So know you're fucking audience and so when I get tagged on on on stuff like this and people are wanting to have me like Rip it apart because they probably contradict something they heard me say or I say on the show, it's not that the guy is wrong. And this is the same thing that we had recently when we talked about Eugene's post and we just talked about somebody else's post recently. I don't disagree with these guys. They're presenting science-based information that is correct.

I'm just a, because of my experience, I know what I've had to deal with, 99% of the time, and that's not the majority, and we're always trying to address the majority, the average person. So if you're a high level advanced client, like yeah, allowing the shoulders to retract and go to a protractive position, till we find, but in my experience,

somebody who cannot feel their chest when doing a chest press, it's because you already suffer from a little bit of upper cross syndrome and your shoulders and your triceps take over the movement, you need to learn how to retract, to press the shoulders and press. Yeah, you got to peel it back, you got to take it back to mobilizing the shoulder, like Adam's talking about, and then, you know, add, add like the proper mechanics so you get in the proper position of it. Now we apply isometrics through that squeeze. So we're really trying to enhance the squeeze

of what we're trying to get out of the chest. And then we lightly load. So we mimic the exercise. So you actually learn the proper mechanics as you're going through the bench press, then we add the load as the stimulus on top of that. So it's like a layered building process of then being able to properly engage the chest while you're going through a bench press. And here's something else that a trainer or you might want to consider if you're a beginner. Sometimes you don't feel the muscle because you don't have a lot of muscle there.

And this is, I remember going through this as a kid. It's true. It's like a dick statement. No, no, no, you ever trained? You don't feel your chest broke. Yes, bro. You don't feel your chest because you ain't got one. It's probably like concave.

You guys remember this when you first started working out, though, you didn't feel the muscle because you didn't really have a lot of muscle. Well, not only did you know, it's not that you didn't have a lot of muscle. The muscle's always been there. It's that you haven't learned how to use it. Well, you got to build some of it. Yeah, not only did you know, it's not that you didn't have a lot of muscle. The muscle's always been there. It's that you haven't learned how to use it. Well, you got to build some of it.

Yeah, but I mean, like other than a push up or any bench press bar, where in your life do you use your chest like you should? Like if you push somebody, if you're somebody who's never worked out and you shove somebody, most people would shove them with their shoulders and their arms.

But you would generate way more power if you knew how to throw those hips in there. Oh yeah, and to pull the shoulders back and then throw so the chest could get involved in that movement, but you just don't know how to perform that. And so yeah, not only do you have a weak chest like you're making the point,

but it's because you don't know how to, you haven't learned how to activate it. But yeah, I mean, again, Trey, it's an tip. You know, pull the shoulders back like the boys were saying, grip the bar real tight, let your elbows flare out, and then imagine like you're gonna slide your hands together. Don't let them slide. Yeah, don't let them slide, but squeeze inwardly as you're lowering and as you're pressing,

and then you'll start to feel, you should feel more chest activation. All right, next question is from Nathaniel L. Watson. How much information should you know as a new personal trainer? I listen to you guys, but I can't hold a candle to you. Yeah, you know, I tell you what. A fuck, bro, we got two decades ahead of you.

And think about who you're- Give yourself a break. And also think about who you're gonna be working with. Now, if you're gonna be working with clients that are very advanced, let's say, you're gonna be doing like really, really hard advanced correctional exercise work with people who have big time injuries or rehab,

or you're working with athletes at very, very high levels. You probably need to know a lot. But if you're working with the average person, the average everyday person who just needs to get in better shape, you actually don't need to know that much. You really don't. You need to know some stuff, but you don't need to know that much. You really don't. You need to know some stuff, but you don't need to know much. Here's what you do need to know.

Know how to communicate what you know very well. And stay in your lane. That's about it. Stay in your lane. And if you don't know something, be okay with letting them know. Listen, when I started, I had no background at all in this. I mean, I had to plan to go to school for Kines,

but I was still in my first two years, which you don't even get to touch in your major courses anyways. So I had no real background. I failed my NSM the first time that I took it. I was a terrible trainer for probably the first five years, but the one thing that I was really good at, which was what Sal just pointed out, is the ability to communicate the information. And I was very comfortable with saying, I don't know, but I will find out for you. And within 24 hours, I would have that answer for whatever they asked me, no matter how simple,

you think the question is or how deep and technical it is. And part of the motivation of us creating this platform is to support trainers just like you. I mean, if you don't have the free app at MindPunt Media and you don't have that downloaded, that should be first because you have a search engine in there where you could put in any topic that we've ever addressed in the last 1300 episodes

so then you could listen to us break it down and simplify it there. We've got all the free guides at MindPumpFree.com. We've got a YouTube channel, MindPumpTV, with now, I think, 500 plus videos. We have a plethora of free information and blogs all over the website. Use the resources there to go back and present to them.

And I think why some trainers don't do that, and I always laugh when I meet somebody who knows Mind Pump and I ask him if they use these tools and they're like, oh no, I haven't really done that. It's like this, it's the scarcity mindset. People are afraid like, oh, if I refer them to a MindPump guide or YouTube, maybe they won't buy training for me.

Like that's so stupid. Like don't think that way. Like as a trainer, they will appreciate getting the right information or good information communicated well to them more than anything else. I'll send your client to our episodes and I promise you, look at more sessions.

Yeah, you'll completely appreciate it. No, use all this free content that we have provided. It's funny, I used to have this conversation. This is a very common conversation I would have with new trainers that would work for me because when they would first get started, inevitably they would feel a little insecure, a little nervous. I don't, you know, it's my first time training people.

I got my certifications, you know, I've worked out for a little while, but you know, I've got these new clients and I feel like I don't know enough or whatever and I'd say, look, 99.9% of all the information you know, you're not going to use it anyway with clients. This is a everyday person. They just need to help moving more. You need to strengthen them with basic exercises. Do you understand basic exercises? Good. Do you understand how to apply those exercises? Good. You're perfect.

Can you communicate that it takes a long time, that it's a slow process? Does your client enjoy seeing you? This is another big one. Does the client enjoy meeting with you and working with you? Don't worry about the fact that you don't have the most technically knowledgeable trainers that I ever had working for me.

Very little clients that ever have to absolutely send to them. Like I get the one client that would come to me be like, well, I've got, you know, problems with C6 and C4 and my doctor said this and then I would send them to my rehab trainer. But most clients are like, I'm gonna lose 20 pounds, I haven't worked out for 10 years, you know, and my knee kinda hurts

and you know, I'm not really doing anything right now for activity. It's like, okay, cool. Any of my trainers can do a phenomenal job working with you. You're gonna be in your working out three days a week. Any of them can do an awesome job. And that's pretty much it. Just be confident and know that what you know

is more than enough to help the average person. And you'll be absolutely fine. Next question is from JYB9. Knowing what you know today, is there anything you would go back and change in your first three programs? Ooh, I like that question. I do, because there's one that comes to mind

because we just had this discussion off-air yesterday, or day before yesterday, in the Maps and Obolic program, in there in Sal had to like really explain what he means by it because I think people misinterpret it or do it incorrectly and that is touch and go deadlifts. And it's not because I don't think any of us valued touch and go deadlifts. I think I've done, I do occasional touch and go deadlifts. I just think considering that we speak of Maps Antibolic as our foundation, foundational

program, a majority of people that are first getting involved in our programs probably start there. A touch and go deadlift is probably a little more advanced for the average person. So that's the only that's the only thing that I feel that comes to mind. We had to we had to I think didn't we lower the reps on the lunch matrix? Oh, yeah, yeah, I was pretty fed up. Yeah, that we actually did go back and revise that and, you know, change because I mean, initially it was about like volume.

And so like we were thinking about what was reasonable and actually going through it and like calculating out left versus right leg and seeing how much actual like volume of lunges that was it was a little bit excessive. So we were getting a lot of feedback from that, from your average person, that that was just an overwhelming amount. And so we recognize that. It's like, oh yeah, okay.

For some people, lunges aren't really that difficult. And for somebody coming from just pretty much a front and back linear type of programming where you're doing everything in front of you, like, you know, everything is bilateral and then taking them into different planes. I mean, that transition itself was a very drastic change for a lot of people, so it's like,

okay, we have to acknowledge that and that new stimulus is gonna be like exhaustive, you know. And so, yeah, we did change the rep count for that, so we lowered it a bit and then people could sort of, when we went back and we did, I mean, we've reiterated them now a couple of times. And we haven't changed the workouts too much. There's been like a couple of things.

Look, here's the thing, as a good trainer, you have to take feedback and consider always. Now, for the most part, the workouts are almost identical to when we first put them out, but there's a couple changes here and there because we got feedback. We got thousands of people that are following these programs. Now, here's a deal. Training people in person and writing a program to be used online is a little different,

isn't it? Like two different monsters. It is. There's certain things that I might have put for example touching go deadlifts You know, they're in maps and a ballic, but when I would teach them I'm watching the client as I'm getting feedback from people I'm realizing I can't watch all these people that are doing it and so there's some very good points being made that We're probably gonna change that another one is rest periods. Here's another one like we put in prescribed rest periods and some of our Programs, but I'm getting a lot of feedback from people are like, oh, you know

I'm resting for for a long time and the workouts are taking a long time and shorter and I'm thinking of myself like, you know, there's a lot of individual Variants when it comes to rest periods with clients and so it might be better to be a little bit more general to say more like shorter rest periods longer rest periods rather than saying you have to rest for three minutes or more type of deal. But I mean, we're really going in and splitting hairs. And for the most part, if we had to go back and reiterate very much, then we're probably not very good at what we're doing. I mean, that's part of what I think makes the three of us combined because we're different, because we have so much experience with so many different types of clients.

I mean, man, when we write these things, it's not like we sit down and go, I guess it's down and write a fucking, you know, four day or five day a week program for the next 16 weeks, like in 15 minutes if I just wanted to rip it out. But we go back and forth over a lot of this. There's a two day process of just arriving at work now. And it's this type of stuff. Like we tried to foresee like, oh, well, what if we have a client that's like this? Or, oh, I've had people that give me this fee.

And so there's a lot of that, you know, debating back and forth with each other and there was things that were in programs that got pulled out. So, I mean, I would hope that we wouldn't have to reiterate too much, but those two things, and those are like really simple. It doesn't mean that they're battered, necessarily need to be changed. It's that we wouldn't have to reiterate too much, but those two things, and those are really simple. It doesn't mean that they're bad or necessarily need to be changed.

It's that we've taken into consideration now that thousands of people have done it. It's like, oh, we probably could have awarded that different. I mean, one of the things we even noticed too, we do little things like the blueprints and stuff and how. Just easier to read. Yeah, easier for people to understand and read and use. And so we're more concerned, I think the programming,

I think is pretty fucking rock solid. Yes, the usability. The UI is pretty good. Yeah, we want that to be like the cleanest and most straightforward that we can. And so we're always coming back and evaluating that and getting feedback from people in our forum.

And just trying to make sure that we're always keeping that fresh and something that, you know, people can just like almost ready set go and push a button. Well, the look of the programs have changed a lot. That's for sure. Yeah. You know, we first started this company, we would pump these programs out and have ourselves demonstrating the movements. And we were on a, you know, tight budget and time.

And you know, there's videos of us, you know, maps anywhere, we filmed it. We filmed it all in a house. So we're demonstrating all the exercises on that. I laid on the couch one time while you were doing like dragon flags. Yeah, to keep the couch from flipping up or Adam, at one point we forgot to film like we're on set.

We do it. There were like four exercises we forgot to film. So we we're like, we're in a porn set. Yeah, we do. There were like four exercises we forgot to film. So we had like pull over, Doug pulled over to the park. Yeah. Doug is going, this was coming back from Maps Anywhere. I actually did a post on my Instagram about this.

So you can go back and I think, basically in my post, I think I'm talking about people not getting a paralysis by analysis, right? And just getting, getting something out there and then reiterating as you go. And that, this was an example of that,

like Maps Anywhere, we just, you know, we shot, we rented a VRBO and we were definitely on a budget and just getting something out there and then reiterating as you go. And this was an example of that, like maps anywhere. We just, you know, we shot, we rented a VRBO and we were definitely on a budget even then. It's not like we even rented a really nice VRBO. We got like an okay house, right? So it's like not really aesthetically pleasing on the video. So Doug shoots that. Doug, as we're driving back home from,

I think it was Sacramento is where we did that place. And Doug's like going through the blue front. He's like, oh shit, we forgot these four exercises. Like, well here pull over the playground. Yeah, it's a playground. It was pull over the park. I've got my fucking, you know, I don't know what sunglasses. I'm wearing some dark sunglasses and I.

Looks like a biker. Yeah, I do. It's our new jump rope. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, that's the biggest things that we've changed. Yeah, we've changed a lot better. Yeah, we changed a lot. But you know, the meat and the potatoes of what's in the program, I think I even refer to this

in that post is we spend a lot of time building the engine, building the engine of the stuff and the real meat of this. Now, we're new paint and spoiler and make the car look cool now, but it originally was past this hell back then. Yes, sure. It was bad aspect in as far as its performance. It was great. Now it looks fast too. Yeah.

Next question is from Johnny Olives. How would you guys recommend trying to address insecurities in yourself? Oh yeah. You know what's a telltale way of knowing whether or not you have an insecurity? Is how much does a criticism about a particular thing? How defensive do you get? Yes. Like if somebody came up to me and was like, you're fat, you know, and I'm always been skinny my

whole life, it'd be like, well, it doesn't faze me at all. So it's like the criticisms that you get, that really affect you, where like, and maybe they're not even criticisms. Someone just makes a comment, but you're really heated or bothered about it by it. That's probably an insecurity. 100% and to that point, this is why when I feel that in myself,

I put myself in those situations to learn to deal with it. For example, CABs, 100% was been a sore spot in my life forever. So on the other guy who will even wear shorts in the winter time, like I will wear my shorts all the time because I want to make myself comfortable with people talking shit, saying things to me like me looking in the mirror going, oh, I feel like I'm going to get reps just like anything. I'm going to get reps with that insecurity to where it becomes something that's no longer an insecurity for me. So I think that is perfect. So like when you can tell that it bothers you and then you

take that, say, okay, right now in the last two years, right? So I've always talked about one of the things that motivated me to get into shape and to work out was being insecure about being skinny and small. So of course, when I go from, imagine, you know, being all steroided up, being a bodybuilder, making it all the way up to the pro level jacked, looking amazing, and then now going the opposite direction, like I intentionally put myself in this, I'm not gonna try and hang on to every pound of muscle and focus on getting bigger.

I'm gonna get lean and mobile and limber and be comfortable with being skinny at them or whatever, or what I perceived as skinny, right? Cause the average person probably looks at my physique and doesn't think I'm skinny, but that's how my brain works. And so I put myself in that and I will continually challenge things that I think are potential and securities.

That's, to me, that's the only way I've ever learned to get through those things is to embrace it for go after it. Present it first. Right. That's what I've learned over the years of growing up and like being teased all the time for being like, you know Like super super ghostly white for instance that That used to be like something that was just I mean everybody had to bring that out You know, they're just like pointing that out. I mean. I'm like, wow. I guess that's true

You know like like well fuck so if I ever take my shirt or go to the beach I'm just like hey guys you're right for the second son, you know, like, well fuck. So if I ever take my shirt off or go to the beach, I'm just like, hey guys, you ready for the second sun? You know, throw my shirt off and just like, you gotta acknowledge it right away. And then everybody's just like, ah, and then it doesn't come up again. And then it's just like, who gives a shit? One of the things that has made the three of us

kind of invincible to hate on social media or wherever is that we have a lot of self-depreciating humor. And there's not- Yeah, you ain't gonna pick on us as hard as we pick on each other. Right. And we pick on the things we know are insecurities of each other. And I love that about each of us is that we know we, we, we, we, we know that. And, and so it's funny because if someone does like a temp to kind of hate on us, it's

like you do, if they do, they do something that's like not even a soft spot. It's like, it's not funny at all. It's like, it's a week, it's a week attack. And you can't because we've already presented it. We've already attacked it. We've already admitted it. We've already laughed at each other and poked at each other with it.

And so a lot of that really helps when you're somebody who is battling or doing that. Instead of hiding from it, running from it, trying to avoid it, like take it on. It only hurts when you believe it. You know what I mean? If somebody says something negative about you and you believe that avoid it, like take it on. It only hurts when you believe it. You know what I mean? If somebody says something negative about you and you believe that negative thing,

well, that's gonna fucking hurt your feelings. But if they say something to you negative that you don't believe because you're confident in that in yourself, it doesn't bother you at all. It reminds me of when I would hang out with like profiders, you know, we'd go out and you know, guys would bump into them or say say something and some of the most secure like these are guys That could wipe the floor with pretty much anybody that they bump into and they'd be like oh, excuse me no problem

And like they were never threatened. They never want to start shit It was because they were super confident in their own they didn't feel any threat Well, even if you even if you do feel it like now I Just wrote something that I'm gonna post soon on emotional intelligence. And I feel like there's not enough conversation. We focus so much on IQ, very few people talk about the importance of emotional intelligence

and self-awareness and social awareness. I've learned now, like, if something even does sting or bothers me or whatever it is, like, I kinda grin at it and it's like, oh wow, that's enlightening. I didn't know that would bother me or what I'm without is like, I kind of grin at it and it's like, oh wow, that's enlightening. I didn't know that would bother me or that affect me. And that's something now I've learned about myself and I have something to work on to grow to improve.

So when you have those moments of feeling instead of like being afraid of them or trying to deny them or ignore them, like accept them like, oh wow, that's enlightening. And Katrina and I even have this in our relationships. One of the things I love about her is, her and I will be saying something back and forward talking, maybe we're even arguing or debating something,

and one will say other, and her or I will stop the conversation and be like, hey, that's stung a little. And then it's not her saying that, hey Adam, that's stung a little, you're an asshole for saying that, she'll also stop and go like, why did that bother me so much? You know, why did that bother me so much that you said that? Because I know you weren't trying to hurt me when you said that,

but that offended me. And I'm now, then you find me apologizing for doing that because my intentions weren't to hurt. And then she see her starting to unpack, where is that rooted from? And so when I feel like the soft dick comment I got the other day, that was fucking epic. And what was so epic about it was like, wow, that could have several meanings that could totally insult you. Oh, it was so many layers. It

was. It was so and I wish I would have thought of that. And instead of me getting mad and going down the rabbit hole with this chick and, you know, insulting her more, I complimented her. I said, man, I didn't want to like you, but because you came up with such a good insult, pretty great bird. Yeah, I like you now. Like, and so I think you got to learn to reframe insecurities and things like that

as growth opportunities. You just have to be honest about them. It's interesting, because as a kid, I was very insecure about being skinny. And then I would hear other people, girls in particular, talk about wanting to be skinny. And I would hear that and they'd be like, why don't you want to be skinny?

I want to be skinny. That's a great, I'm gonna think like, that word meant such a different thing to me. And it was because it was one of my insecurities. So, and now this is not easy. If somebody hurts your feelings, you want to defend yourself right away, but it takes a set, you got to stop.

But like, why do I want to fight back so hard on that insult? Why does that piss me off so much? Do I believe it to be true? Maybe I do. Maybe that's why it hurts so much. And then kind of go down that route. And it presents itself as a challenge in our life. And life would be boring as fuck if it had no challenges and things for you to work on.

So, you know, when it presents itself like that, awesome. And something, by no means does anybody in this room not have insecurities? We all do and I often, new ones present themselves. It doesn't lie, it's not like you find one or two insecurities, you think those are your own insecurities, you fix them and you don't have them anymore. Fucking something else will pop up.

You know that, especially now that you have a son, you know, as your kids grow up, you start to see your own securities, you fix them and you don't have them anymore. Fucking something else will pop up. You know that, especially now that you have a son, you know, as your kids grow up, you start to see your own and see, you know what I mean? Like, oh my God, and you have your own insecurities and they might have different ones than you, but you think that they're gonna have the same ones as you, you know what I mean.

I have a client who's, you know, she's in her mid 50s and we were just talking about this. We share a common insecurity and we were talking about this and it's similar because she didn't finish her degree. I didn't finish my degree. She's an extremely successful woman and she's around a lot of people with PhDs and masters all the time and she goes, I don't know why it is still this day that I get in a situation and when I'm around those people I get very insecure about my level of education. I'm so like, so crazy that you feel that way

because you're such a successful person. I have the same one. I get in rooms with a bunch of people that have a bunch of acronyms after the name, and I find myself, having to share my bank role or talk about the success that I've had in business to feel like I'm at their level. That's a total insecurity.

And I'm very aware of that. And knowing that, it's something I'm always working on. And I don't beat myself up when I make the mistake. I think it was just maybe a couple of months ago. I was in another room like that again. And I caught myself sharing the success of mind pump or whatever. And I'm like, why the fuck did I do that?

They didn't ask for it. You know what I'm saying? They didn't ask. Because there's a difference between sharing information when someone directly asks you, like, hey, I don't, how's my pump doing with this or that? And then there's me giving that information because, let's take a walk in into a room,

be like, hey, what's up, my name's Sal, so I could bench 315. Right, right, I'm like, what? It's totally like that, but it's like a different, so I think, but it's not something that, because of it, I don't shy away from those rooms. In fact, I put myself in those situations more often, and then I challenge myself to shut up,

and just because I'm in a room of a lot of other successful or intelligent men and women, I don't need to peacock and talk about how successful I am. And what other people think is none of your business anyway. So there you go. Life is messy. Go to mindpumpfree.com and download all of our free resources. So we have eBooks and guides on there from everything,

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