Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1186: When Cardio Prevents Muscle Gain, Adjusting Weight & Reps as You Age, Fitness Trend Predictions & MORE

Episode Date: December 18, 2019

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about using lighter weight and higher reps to help prevent injury as you age, the amount of cardio can you do each week and still see muscle gain, whether it is true that if you don’t use it, you lose it, and industry bubbles that will be bursting soon. Mind Pump on reaching mainstream status and breaking the health/fitness stigmas in the process. (4:42) Cordyceps and construction workers. (15:37) Nature is crazy! (18:17) What Mind Pump is currently watching on Disney+. (20:35) How ChiliPad has disrupted the mattress market. (25:17) Mind Pump stands corrected. (28:30) 'Penis fish' taking over a California beach. (29:24) How will the movie theater industry survive in this current climate? (31:31) #Quah question #1 – My head trainer states that as you get older you should use a lighter weight and higher reps to help prevent injury from going too heavy. Is there any truth to that? (36:54) #Quah question #2 – How many hours of cardio can you do each week and still see muscle gain? (45:11) #Quah question #3 - Is it true that if you don’t use it, you lose it? (51:28) #Quah question #4 – What is a bubble in any industry that you feel will be bursting soon? (55:55) People Mentioned  Nature Is Metal (@natureismetal)  Instagram   Related Links/Products Mentioned December Promotion: MAPS Aesthetic ½ off! **Code “BLACK50” at checkout** Visit Four Sigmatic for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code “mindpump” at checkout** 6 Benefits of Cordyceps, All Backed by Science Watch Willow | Full Movie | Disney+ Visit ChiliPad for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code “MPOOLER” at checkout** Report: ‘Penis fish’ take over California beach Watch Pro Football on Our Big Screens - AMC Theatres Best Methods For Building Strength & Fat Loss In Advanced Age Mind Pump Free Resources

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Now that don't really care about fitness, but they're listening anyway. Yes. Then I talked about the messages I've been getting from construction workers who are getting benefits from using four-signantic cordyceps, as been getting from construction workers who are getting benefits from using four-signatic cordyceps, as you know, construction workers tend to work outside,

either in the blazing heat or the freezing cold, and I've speculated with myself that taking four-signatic cordyceps helps me with heat and cold acclimation. This is why I think it may improve athletic performance, where these people are messaging me saying it works, which is kind of cool. Now, four-sigmatic is one of our sponsors.

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I think it was a 90s. Dude, it was the best. Great movie, make sure you check that out. Matt Martin again. Then I talked about the crazy market for mattresses and how some of them are trying to compete with like chili technology. So chili pads go on your mattress and they heat,

they can heat up your bed or cool your bed down with water. So you're not getting a bunch of EMF. The perfect temperature. And it will maintain temperatures. Well, mattress companies are now trying to compete, but they can't because Chilly's the best. Now, we have a discount for Chilly pads through Mind Pump. So here's what you do. Go to Chilly Technology, that's CH-CH-I-L-I technology.com forward slash Mind Pump and use the code on the page to get a massive discount. Then we talked about how we messed up the name Cristiano Ronaldo, you know, the most famous

athlete in the world. Who's that guy? Yeah, I was relying on my sports, my sports co-host here and they messed up the name. So I did because I don't know what sports are. Wow, that was embarrassing. Then Justin talked about one of his favorite subjects, fish in particular combined actually two of his favorite subjects.

Peanus fish. Peanus fish. Kinda weird. Awesome. Then we talked about football at the movies. That's gonna be interesting. We'll see if that makes any money. Then we got into answering the questions.

Here's the first question. This person says, look, I've heard that as you get older, you should use light, weight, and go higher reps to prevent injury. Is there any truth to that? So we talk all about lifting heavy as you age and whether or not you should stay away from it or utilize it. Next question, this person wants to know how many hours of cardio you can do each week and still see muscle gain.

If you listen to our podcast, you know that too much cardio can prevent your muscle, your body from building muscle and getting stronger. So we talk a little bit about the right amount, the right dose. The next question, look, this person wants to know, if the following statement is true, if you don't use it, you lose it. That's an old fitness statement, but believe it or not, like my dad said that.

It's one of the most true statements in fitness, and we break that down. And the final question, this person wants to know, if we have speculated that there's any bubbles in any industry in fitness and we break that down. And the final question, this person wants to know, if we have speculated that there's any bubbles in any industry that we think will be bursting soon. Also, this month, maps aesthetic. This is the aesthetic focused workout program.

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Here's how you get that massive discount. Go to mapsblack.com and use the code black 50 B L a ck 5 0 no space for the discount Teacher time and it's t-shirt time Oh shit, Doug you know it's my favorite time of the week We have four winners this week from iTunes. We have Michael Jensen and you ain't doing it right. And for Facebook, we have Mary Tebby and Zach Quattro. All of you are winners.

And the name I just read to iTunes at mindpumpmedia.com include your shirt size and your shipping address. And we'll get that shirt right out to you. Man, I'm still happy right now. Why? How happy are you? I went to my cousin's house over the weekend, which that's part of the reason why I'm so happy right now. Why? How happy are you? I went to my cousin's house over the weekend, which that's part of the reason why I'm happy. Love them, good people.

Cousin's stepping his wife Sarah on their beautiful children, but anyway. So we're there, we're hanging out, and my cousin Sarah, she's like, oh, my parents love your podcast. I'm like, what? These people are not fitness people at all. Now, they, I'm sure they take care of themselves

and not stuff, but they're obviously older. I'm not quite sure how old they are, but they're, I'm assuming they're in their 60s, early 60s. They're not fitness fanatics, trainers, anything like that. They listen to the Bishop Baron episodes and now they listen to Mind Pump and they love it.

You know what that means? What's that? We're reaching the people that have been unreachable by the fitness industry. Mainstreams in your family. That's even harder. No bias. I know. I agree.

I agree. I've had a few of those too. So yeah, I could contribute. contribute bro families the hardest per these are the hardest people get to listen to your I know they're the worst. They're the worst. Yeah, but the fact that the that here's a couple who you really are Here's a couple who is you know funny. Yeah, I get a lot. Yeah, screw you think you're funny You're doing some cool. I'm not supporting no here are two two people, they're over the age of 55, they're not fitness fanatics, they're not trainers, they're not in the fitness space, and they listen to the podcast,

and they enjoy it. And boy, the hardest thing, come on, tell me right now, what's the hardest thing for the fitness industry to do? What's the most difficult, the thing that they always are trying to do? Yeah, to reach the average person. To reach the everyday average person, because otherwise, you know, gyms use to call it training members. You know, like, I sign this person up and then they stop and they go

to your gym and then you sign them up and then you, you know, they buy this program, they buy that program. Well, it's repulsive to like an average person that has no interest at all because it just seems like you're just trying to get them to do work. You know, like, that's the biggest barrier right away is to be like, well, you're just trying to get them to do work. You know, like that's the biggest barrier right always to be like, well, you have to like really pitch them the benefits of it and why it's so important, all this stuff, but it's still just like, yeah, unless you get their attention.

I love it because it means, because here's what ends up happening. This is the beauty of it. You're not a fitness fanatic. You're not somebody that's super into working out. You don't work in the fitness space, but you found somebody in the fitness space that is either, I don't, whatever, entertaining enough

or impactful enough or whatever that you actually enjoy hearing them talk. Naturally, biosmosis, you can slowly start to make an impact on that person in a positive way and get them to change behaviors, change how they eat, change their, maybe start to exercise, you know, start to learn things about fitness. Why do you think that's possible today and it different than like two decades ago?

Why is that so different, you think? I think it's because in the past that the bandwidth was so limited with media that if you heard fitness information, it was very specific. Like you'd have to buy a fitness magazine or a bodybuilding magazine or something like that. I think the bandwidth is so, and also to our credit, I'm gonna pat myself on the back a little more,

or our backs. Thanks. We've had guests on the show that people would, maybe on the outside think, has nothing to do with fitness, which brings, because that's how they first listened to our show was Bishop Baron, who, you know,

someone would say he has nothing to do with fitness and health, which we know, spiritual health definitely contributes to, you know, to overall health. But here, you know, people who have nothing to do, one, nothing to do with working out, they're not don't care too much about it, whatever. They come in and they listen to an episode with him or an episode with a psychologist or an economist or you know, the guests that we've had that had

nothing to do. And then they hear us and then hopefully they like us. And then they start listening to more. And I think it's, I think today it's more, I think people are seeking health and fitness more today than two decades ago. And I think two decades ago, if you had a gym membership, you were the hardcore gym gore, you were into your body and you wanted to get super fit, or maybe you were in the sports. And so that's why there was an ulterior motive there

besides just overall health and wellness. I think that most people know now that we suffer from, you know, chronic obesity, diabetes, cancer. I think more the common person now is way more afraid of the potential harm they could do to themselves because of lack of exercise and poor eating. And so I think more people are just seeking or interested even if they don't want to. Like even if you don't really like, I don't care about my body, I'm not trying to get ripped,

I don't give a shit about that. But I do know that if I eat poorly and I don't exercise for long term, this could head down where I felt like that wasn't really it two decades ago or more. Just more awareness. Yeah, more, there's so much more awareness around the importance of exercise

and eating correctly today than just two decades ago. I think you're right. I think that's a big part. You're right, people are more aware and there's less stigma around different forms of exercise. Lifting weights, for example. There's still a stigma around lifting weights, but it's not, no.

Yeah, no one cares. No, where, I mean, you know, 20 years ago, if a woman said to her husband or to her friends, yeah, I'm thinking about lifting weights, they were going, why? Why are you going to lift weights? You're trying to be a bodybuilder. Exactly. You don't hear that as much. So I think you're right. I think the

timing is probably right for real. And when I say real fitness and health, what I mean is fitness and health, as it applies to everyday average people who are not fanatics, who just generally want to improve their lives, because in the past, you're right. It was more so fitness fanatics that we're gonna see that. And to me, that's really what's wrong with the message that's coming from, and I know your posts that stirred up all that controversy. I think the part that a lot of people

are missing of your point too, is that, you know, for the longest time, these people, even the ones that we're giving good advice, right? Even the ones in our space are giving out, they're still speaking to an echo chamber. They're talking to other people that already really want to work out, and already are really motivated to train. They're just off the motivation right now, and they need some hype or some, they need a new study to show, doing it in different ways better. You know, I'm saying to just get re-energized and get back to gym. They're not the average person.

They're not. They're, they're, they're They're not. And so you have this community in our space between the PhDs, the coaches, the models, the athletes, and they're all talking to each other. They're all, and they're all creating their own little silos and modalities and my ways better than your way, and yet all fighting over the same, what, 12% of our, you know, 12 maybe. And there's nothing inherently wrong with that,

if that's what you wanna do, but our goal from day one was, how do we reach those people that have zero interest? They still need to help. Well, yeah, and I think to back in the day, like people used to idolize all these professional athletes. And then they would, there'd be examples of bodybuilders out there that were just like huge and ripped.

And like everybody could recognize that and be impressed by that. But it was always like, oh, well, that's for them. You know, there was never really a message just for your average person of like how to lift weights appropriately and how to have that benefit you from a health perspective. And I think that that's been something that has really needed to come to the forefront because it just seems like, well, yeah, I see all these people on Instagram, they all look

awesome, they're all doing this stuff, but it's like, how does that relate to me? Yeah, what we're trying to do is for lack of a, actually I think this is one of the best terms, is fitness and health evangelization really is. And I'm using that term because that term is often used with religion. Now let's think of religion for a second. How effective are religious leaders at getting people to walk in their churches,

their synagogues, or their groups, when they beat you over the head with their, you know, Bible fun. It does, in fact, it pushes you away. The most effective way to evangelize is to be the example and be somebody that that person wants to be around and then it starts to happen. So with fitness evangelization, and I was guilty of this, I'm sure you guys were too,

that's what I did. I walked around and I preached everybody and I told them tons and tons of information. I'm sure you guys were too. That's what I did. I walked around and I preached everybody. And I told them tons and tons of information. It was super ineffective. Instead, what I try to do now is not only be the example, but be the kind of person someone wants to be around and hang around and listen to. And so I think we may be doing that well

with the podcast. I'm very proud of that. I think that, because this is now, these are not only people who I know who are family, but they're not fitness fanatics And these aren't the first people that have heard who have started listening to the podcast who Otherwise wouldn't seek out and and we know what they say to me I haven't had a chance to talk to her parents, but I've heard this from other people You know, I've heard of people say I had no I don't really care about fitness

I just like listen to you guys. I think it's great, I think what you guys talk about is awesome, it's funny or whatever. And I'm thinking in my head, I'm kind of rubbing my hands like the evil laugh, like, oh, you just wait. Oh, we're gonna fit in this smuggle you. Yeah, we're gonna get you. We're gonna get you. We're gonna get you, you know?

But it's fucked, that's what we need to do because the health epidemic that we're dealing with is not an epidemic that's dealing with the fitness fanatics. The fitness epidemic, the health epidemic that we're dealing with is not The in epidemic that's dealing with the fitness fanatics The fitness epidemic the health epidemic. Demick is coming from people who yeah, what nothing to do with work nothing at all Yeah, they want nothing at all to do with it and and part of the reason why and and there's a big portion of those people There's a portion of those people that never will and don't give a fuck and and that's a fact sure But there's a large portion of those people that are avoiding it because it just seems so nuanced.

Because it seems, oh my God, I gotta be in the gym for an hour every single day and having. And the way in measure all my food. Yes, because everything they've heard is coming from the people who are communicating to fitness fanatics. That's the wrong information. If I'm somebody who is just stuck in my own bubble,

don't care about that kind of stuff. I'm busy, I got kids, I got a job, I'm stressed out, whatever, and I'm in the stage of unconscious and competence, literally meaning, I don't know what I don't know, which is where most of these people are. And then I hear that message, you know what that's gonna do to me?

It's gonna confirm my false beliefs. That's not for me. That's none of that is for me. That's for them. Totally. So when I heard that, and me. That's for them. Totally. So when I heard that, and I don't know if my cousin realized how happy that made me to hear that. And when she said that, I was like, oh, yes.

Making progress. We're working. We're working. Anyway. So more interesting stuff, right? So you will never believe the group of people that I'm getting tons of DMs on on one of the products that we promote. It's somebody a group of people you would even can.

Well, first give me the product and then I can. Hivies. Okay, so Cordiceps from Forsecmatic. Okay. So, who do you think is DMing me like crazy? Computer engineers. No. Bodybuilders.

No, no, no, I don't know. I wouldn't believe it. It's stupid. Yeah. He's saying I'm trying to go outside. Okay, fair enough. No, so you guys know how I speculated that. Fighter pilots.

No, so you guys are done. We've had them reach. Yeah, you done guessing. You lost on fine. Oh, you got two. Yes. Okay, so far off. So just look up at the notes that Doug ran up there.

So, you guys know I can't read. You know how I speculate. It's too far. That cordiceps helps with temperature acclimation. Remember I told you I would take cordiceps? I'd go to the gym, I'd do the steam room in the sauna and I just noticed I can last way longer. Yeah.

And I also noticed this with cold showers. I just seem to be able to stay in there longer. I feel like this is part of the reason like cordiceps improves performance because one of the ways that, and why it's mostly endurance that I notice are stamina, because you know, as you guys start working out and you start to heat up or whatever, that saps your energy or whatever. So I'm like, I wonder if that's one of the main ways it impacts performance. I looked up studies, there was some studies that kind of pointed in that direction, but I haven't seen anything

specific, but this is what I've experienced. It's like I take quarter steps, and I could just handle heat, I can handle cold much better. So I talked about in the podcast a couple times. I've gotten at least 15 DMs from construction workers. Oh, really? Really?

Being out the sun all day long? They're not even using it to work out. Yeah, there's using a beat in the sun all day long. In the sun or the cold? And they're like, dude, I'm outside in the beating sun. I remember that. And I could just work. I could just frost in the morning,

you're freezing your hands off everything, and then it gets hot, you know, midday. So that's crazy. Yeah, so if all the people... Was it you that was telling me that you used to throw the burrito in the dashboard? Yeah, I did dashboard burritos. Shout out to any of the construction workers

with that method. Oh, that's really it's good. I remember going to work with my dad, and I'm 14 years old, so my job is to fucking wash the tools every time they get the mud on them or whatever, that's a word for. Tool wash. And so I go outside in the freezing ass morning in San Francisco when we be doing jobs up there

and they have to go outside and spray off the trowel and shit with the hose. My hands up. That's what I decided right there. I the hose. My hands are the worst. That's what I decided right there. I hate this. This isn't for me. I want to talk for a living.

I don't want to move my body. For a living. Super, super, super hard. Anyway. Dude, the court of sepsing, I was watching like some of these documentaries and watching how like, you know, the ants and like a couple of these other insects, how the court of seps actually take them over and they become like zombies. know, the ants and like a couple of these other insects, how the chorus steps actually take

them over and they become like zombies. That's how that's how it works. So it's caterpillar, caterpillar. Oh, backup, explain that. It's a fungus. It's a fungus that like takes over these insects and that's the chorus set. It goes all the way up, yeah, to their brain

and like, like takes over. It's a parasitic, so weird. Yeah, it's a parasitic fungus. But somehow it benefits us. This is what I'm trying to get at. Like, how does that, like, what is the relation there? Literally, so what are the problems? Fill them in girls and out.

Okay, so that's where they harvest it from. I don't know if the harvest is the same kind either. No, it is. Yeah, but I don't think that's where the harvesting it from. I don't think they have a bunch of caterpillars that they, but that's what they, that's what they, that's what they're doing. That's what I'm wondering. Yeah, no, that's what it does though. That's interesting the harvester from. I don't think they have a bunch of caterpillars that they, but that's what they, that's what they, that's what they, that's what they, that's what they, that's what they, that's what they, that's what they, that's what they, that's what they, that's what they, that's what they,

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Yeah. Nature's crazy, dude. That is crazy. Have you seen, have you watched the nature, not nature channel, but I forget what they call NGO or what? No, no, no, no, no, no, it's Disney's version on Disney+. Oh, yeah. Have you watched the nature one?

What do they do? So it's just like, what are the fucking favorite ones that we all, like planet Earth, like planet Earth or whatever, but they narrate it and they tell a story. So it's very Disney-esque, right? So instead of just like watching, you know what,

when you watch planet Earth or one of the nat geo ones, right, you're watching it and it feels very educational, right? It's just where they tell a story, they give the names to the animals, but then they're educating at the same time. It's brilliant. Oh, dude, so I went through like Disney Plus.

Now they've added all the old movies in cartoon movies and everything else. I'm so excited because now you have like this, you know, more options. And so we actually saw Willow was one of the options. Pro, I used to love that movie. Dude, is it as good as it was when we were younger? Okay, so there's a lot of them like you go back,

you watch like never ending story, you watch some, you're kind of like, ugh, this is not, dude, Willow holds up. Oh, good. Will, and I guess like George Lucas actually wrote, you know, the script and like, was part of the production of, I think Ron Howard might have been the director of that.

That was one of my favorite movies when I was growing up. Dude, it was great. It was, it was, it was funny, because you know why it was great, was because they didn't use like barely any CGI. I mean, it was kind of cheesy, like any of the CGI's they used, you know, they had like a background screen you could tell

was like, you know, like a shot ahead of time and they're in front of it kind of a thing, but everybody was in costume. You couldn't see that just 10 years ago. No, no, TVs are so clear now. Yeah, it gives away all the time. It's not just that, but you're so used to it in different quality that you look back.

And you know what, this is, do you guys ever watch Jason and the organats, the old one? Yeah, it kind of has that weird clunky... It's all claymation. Claymation needs kind of fuel. When I first watched that as a kid, I was like, Oh my.

The dragon in it, the troll that turns into a dragon kind of had that feel, but it was just funny because all these lines in there that are hilarious. My kids were dying and it made me think of how, like, remember the conversation we had about how it nicknames for our friends that were fucked up. Yeah. So we had one guy in our group that was like shorter and everybody else, and so we called

him Ben the Peck. Oh, I think we're Dix. I was like, I feel so bad about that now, you know? Like, in the movie, he keeps calling Peck, because they're like, you know, the small people, like, basically, that's so fucked up. Oh, dude, I'm sure that's where the nickname came from, too, right? I'm sure. Well, yeah, that's what it came from.

Yeah. Yeah, but anyway, yeah, I was like totally derogatory, you know, and I'm like, calling this poor kid in L-Metry School, a pack, you know, and I'm like, oh, go ahead, dick. And you guys were friends. Yeah, we were friends, but he loved it. Yeah, he was like, or he made you think sure. I love it, yeah.

I love it, yeah. He goes home and cries about it. That's terrible. Just like we you think you were, I love it. I love it. I'm a crime. I was on my crimes about it. That's terrible. Just like we all did. I watched Disney Plus over the weekend also, and I watched one of those nature shows that you were talking about.

Oh, you did. And this one wasn't narrated, I don't think. But it was the most fucked up nature show I've ever seen my entire life, ever. Well, why? Well, first off, it opened with something really cool. There was a snow leopard that was hunting a mountain goat. I think it was.

And the snow leopard jumps across a ravine, okay. Tackles the goat and then they both tumble down the mountain and die, but they fall and fall and fall and fall and dead. And I'm like, this is insane. Like the snow leopard took a chance and they both died. Then the next scene was where these birds that were on the top of the same mountain. I don't remember, I think it was the Himalayas.

It might have been the Himalayas. They're on the top of this huge mountain or whatever. And the little chicks are like, you know, just growing or whatever. And it's time to fucking leave. It's time to leave the nest or whatever. So these little chicks just fucked up. They have little wings that barely don't even work.

And they just jump off the cliff. And the camera follows them. No. Just fall. And you see the little chick like, ah, trying to flap its wings, but it can't fly. Boom, boom, it's the rocks. Boom, boom, keep falling down.

Dead. Dude, it is a cruel reality. Then the next one, Disney. Disney. Then the next one does the same thing. He just washes his brother, falls his dead. The next one does the same thing. I can do it.

Bro, five chicks, five chicks. And the camera's following him, fall down the fucking mountain. just watch his brother fall those dead the next one does the same thing I can do it bro five chicks five chicks and the cameras following fall down the fucking mountain you see the little heads get smashed this is really on Disney yes dude then if then it gets to the sixth one and for whatever reason the sixth one smashes all the way down the mountain and survives and that's the one that lived I like that's fucked up what's up that's a fucked up story right there. Yeah, that is. What were you, are you sure that's on Disney? 100%, 100%. You don't know what I mean.

It's real life. Yeah, and I'm thinking to myself, like, couldn't they evolve a better way to like, I guess what they did is they evolved like, one at a six chance. Yeah, whichever one survives is strong enough. They just followed it, just bring off the rock, bang, bang, and it survives is strong enough. They just followed it just being off the rock, being, being, and it's a little chick.

I saw that with like elephant skills where they like made their way to high ground and there was this like huge cliff and like just to get space, they kept knocking off like all these other ones. You'd see these huge blobs of fat just, ooh, oh my God. Just like, it was horrific.

You guys follow that page on Instagram, Nature is Metal. Yeah. Oh, it's just, Justin, you're my god. It was horrific. You guys follow that page on Instagram, nature is metal. Yeah. Oh, it's just a story of my favorite. It's always showing fucked up shit. Show it to all your vegan friends. Pretty horrible. Yeah. Nature's nothing to do.

Anyway, I was talking to my brother, and my brother is like, Mr. I don't know what you want to call him. He researches the fuck out of anything that he buys because he's always trying to save $5. Doesn't matter. And I appreciate that about him. In fact, I'll ask him about products. And I'll say, hey, what do you think about this?

Because I know the guy has gone through and done hours of research to find the best value, the best deal, whatever. So I was telling him about the chili pad. Because so he's got this girlfriend that just started kind of living with him and they're going to find a new apartment. And he, my brother's a heater and she, you know, gets too hot, sleeping next to him or whatever. So they're trying to figure out, so I'm like, dude, get the chili pad, you can control the

temperature, you can heat one side up, you can cool the other side up and, you know, whatever. So he's like, oh, he's like, oh, yeah, I'll look into it. So this can't do you. And I'm telling him, I'm ready. Like, this is the best. Trust me. This is why we work with them. They're the best. Fuck this guy's been researching for like a week. And he's, but you know what, though, I didn't realize that there's that the mattress market is trying to respond to products like the chili pad because they have, they have changed the market, they've disrupted the market so much. Where are they trying to build it into like the mattresses? Mattress companies are trying to figure out ways

to include it because, and you think about it, if you're a mattress company, and you see this other company, you just start to take off. You're thinking, oh, this may be a way. Yeah, oh, you're too late. I didn't realize a mattress market was so insanely competitive. Oh, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, big money too. Huge money. Huge, so he's showing me all the different things and he ended up saying that the best value, which is what I told him, which makes me annoyed, but whatever, take all the time in the world, the best value was to get a really good mattress and then throw chili pad on it.

It's the best thing. I mean, is it really a stereotype? I don't know one girl that wasn't freezing at night. Well, if the guy's sleeping next to her is really hot. It's like, that just seems to be always the case. Cause even for me and Courtney, she's freezing. So now in the winter, she uses it. She's using it just to heat up.

I'm like, I'm good. I'm like cracking the window. You're pretty extreme, though. you and Adam are just so weird. Yeah, I mean, there's extremes of it. I think a lot of muscle. Generally, yeah, man. A lot of muscle. Yeah, it could be.

It's a good ass. It could be, it could be muscle. It could be impressive. Insulating body fat. Yeah, it could be some of that weaved in there. It's like the, yeah, it's like, Justin, I would go straight for the AC since we get into the hotel room.

Yeah, man. I know. Drop it all the way to Florida. And you guys both snore each other to sleep apparently. I don't, you know, I'm hitting miss on that. Like did I, from on my back, you and I were just, you and I were just together. Yeah, you snore.

Oh, I did. If you don't snore, you breathe like Darth Vader. So you might not be, yeah, you might not be snoring, but I'm like, dude, we need to, we need to open up that airway. So she's there. Yeah, it does happen. That's weird.

Katrina says I don't, but maybe she's lying to me. Maybe she's not. Courtney snores. So, you know, she's tried to throw me out of the bus and I caught her on record. Did you know you did, you did, bro? I had to. Yeah, I did, because she kept making fun of me.

I'm like, dude, look, you snore. Like, I'm not the only one here. So you recorded it? Yeah, I recorded, played it back to you so bad. That's the way to get in the main point of that. We, I must have got, I'm sure you guys did too if I got at least a handful of these DMs about Ronaldo's first name.

Yeah, it's Cristiano. Yeah. Fucking, sports guys. What? To sports guys. Oh, sports are my soccer. I said it wrong We don't care about that here. Yeah, I said I said it wrong because you guys oh, okay

I see you said it wrong first and you're my authority You know saying listen if you quote a study wrong you can blame it on me. Okay, I mean my eyes will be crooked to me I mean I'm sorry. Yeah, no, it's as much as I know about soccer. There's a big difference between Christian Ronaldo and Cristiano. Is it really? It's kind of the same. He's only one of the highest paid athletes.

I know, he's the most famous guy. He's the most famous guy. Like, right now, that's funny. He was thinking about coming on the show. No, he's like, no, he gave my name right. He's like, fuck those guys. Yeah, forget it. Do you guys, what was that news article about the penis fish?

Yeah, dude so up in like some beach up in Northern California like there was just littered with all of these like worms that looks just like Fleshy penises. What all over the beach? I guess this happened to in Moss landing and like locally around here Like there was a big storm that came through and like just brushed up all of these worms everywhere. And it just so happened to bring it near the San Francisco area. Yeah, exactly.

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, like oh, sweet irony. Oh wow. Yeah. Those are weird. Yeah, they're just, they're fleshy colored and everything.

People of the big, yeah. There was, there were millions that washed up for sure. Just a bunch of exciting people just running to the beach. Yeah. Hours later, they were fleshy colored and everything. People love the big, yeah. There were millions that washed up for sure. It's a bunch of exciting people just running to the beach. Yeah. Hours later, they were all gone. Yeah, yeah. This is weird. Yeah, it looks like a, oh yeah, it looks straight up like a,

it's a fish. Yeah, it looks, well, they call it a fish, but yeah, it's like a worm. Well, how funny. So let's just be, let's straight up. Let's say we're 15 year old friends, we're on the beach. You find one of these, you're for sure throwing it at your friend's face. A hundred percent.

For sure, you're slapping your friend in the face with this thing. I'm putting it on somebody's chair at school. How did I miss this? This is hilarious. Yeah, you're always up on up on the penis shaped stuff. So I'm super rising. No, that's just it.

That's just it. I just draw it. Oh yeah. So I got my cousin shared this article. I'm in his group thread with like all my cousins and they always share the weird shit. So they shared this article. I'm in his group thread with all my cousins and they always shared a weird shit and so they shared this article. And so they always, they looked to me to like,

what is that? So I made up the story. So I'm like, oh, it's just fucking crazy. I'm like that fish, it's a parasitic fish. If you're swimming in the ocean without swim trucks and it gets, it'll enter you. It actually goes inside your penis. And that's like, yeah, it goes in and my cousin inside your penis. And that's why, oh wow.

Yeah, it goes in my cousin freaked out, dude. That's why I don't go in the water. I fucking told you about it. I'm just going there. There's invaders in there. That's why I'm never going there. Dude, you're abusing your privileges as ambassador of health. Yeah, I know.

You guys don't have to take that sweater back. I want a hat. I don't want a sweater. I want like a, I still want you like a sash. Like it's, you know, if you want it. No, I want a big, yeah, that's a sash at I want like a, I still want you like a sash. Like it's, you know, if you want it. No, I want a big, yeah, that's a sash and a big like a, like a, like a, weird looking hat, you know. Hey, BG, did you see in the form,

somebody posted the, uh, shared the movie, the football and football at the theaters, which I talked about, I think I talked about this a couple of years ago. You did predict this, you did. So when you could watch a game at the movie. Yeah, so everyone's, and you get, they do this thing, which is pretty smart, right?

Where you pay your ticket and then it gives you, you know, X amount of dollars towards popcorn and soda and everything like that. That's all day long thing, too, by the way. Like, football starts 10 in the morning, doesn't end till six o'clock at night. You know what this sounds to me? So, so smart by the way. Part of me is like stupid. Who's going to go there?

And then I just thought to myself, all the all the bros all the husbands out there who like Uh-huh, I guess today you know today's football day. I'm gonna be at the theater 100% all day. Yeah, I put in the schedule It's been in there for three weeks anyway. I'll see you later I'll see you later. I have no idea. So I was looking it up and it tells you what theaters that's doing it. And there's one in San Jose.

I think it's something they're testing right now. I don't think this has been going for very long and I think they've scheduled out. So they also do fights. They've already been doing. Yeah, I've seen that for a while. And they also do. I love that.

They do opera and other type of performances. So you could go to the theater and watch, like Symphony or ballet or opera. I think the movie theaters are really trying to figure out a way to pivot because their home entertainment systems and access to just- And now, okay, so I still have yet to read an article that explains this more, but I knew this was happening.

And that was, I've seen more and more movies hit the theater and then the turnaround for it to be streaming is way faster. It used to be six months. It used to be a six, if you saw a movie in the theater, you wouldn't be able to see it for six months later until a hit video cassette or whatever. It's because, you know, what it is, if it really boils down to this,

the movie theater forever used to be the middle man. They used to be the middle man that delivered the product. For a long time, you didn't have TV in your house. So if you want to watch anything, you had to go to the theater. And then the way that they maintained that middle man, you know, position was the atmosphere, the quality of the sound. And then the way they maintained it was, that's how you got a movie first. that middleman position was the atmosphere,

the quality of the sound, and then the way they maintained it was, that's how you got a movie first. But movies make a lot of money now through screaming and stuff like that. It's interesting too, there's, so Jane Silent Bob, you know, like that whole movie franchise and everything.

So I guess they did a reboot and shot a movie but like planned it out as an event thing. So they got like, we're gonna be at this location, at this city and it's gonna be in this theater. And so they did it like is like a tour. So that way like people would show up and then they did like a Q&A at the end of the film. And they'd show the film.

And so they'd get all these like ticket sales that way. And then they just toured around. And I they're going to release the full thing eventually, but that was like their plan. So that's interesting. So okay, wait, let me get this straight. So they're going around almost like a comedian tours. Yes. And doing live shows.

Yeah. But also recording that whole process. So they're watching the movie. They're sitting in there watching the movie with the fans that are watching the movie then afterwards. What movie though? They have a key. A James Hilat Bob.

A new one? Yeah, a new one. Oh, okay. Yeah. Oh, that's interesting. And then they plan. Kevin Smith, yeah, the guy. And then they plan to shoot all of that content.

And then, no, they're just doing a live, they're, they made a live event out of it. So people buy tickets to go watch the movie, but then they have a Q&A at the end. Oh, I can make a ticket. Okay, I get it. Okay, I get it. I get it. To make sure that these things sells out every time.

Like, you show up for a live event. Exactly. To see the actual actors and you're gonna go watch the movie. So they're not doing like a broad, like it'd be in all theaters at once. That's the only thing it's actually. Boom, boom, boom. Wow, what if this starts to spread?

You see actors doing this. That'd be cool. I mean, is that they're there? Like as you watch the movie at the end, you can kind of hang out with them. It's kind of cool. That makes sense, especially that movie, what's called J inside of Bob. Yeah. That one has a cult, a bit of a cult point. It is totally more of the cult classic. Yeah. So there's certain movies that do that, right? Like the Rocky Horror picture show. Well, that's, it makes sense for independent films. If you're a film, if you're not like mainstream,

that that is makes sense for Tom Cruise to come down and do that after Mission Possible 30. You know what I'm saying? Like it doesn't make sense for him to. Is that the next one? It's probably at the 60s. I don't know, there's fucking so many of them. I don't even know how many things.

I don't even know. We just keep milking those shit out of that. That's killing it though. But I mean, it doesn't make sense, right? For him to come down and do that to try and hustle tickets. But if you're someone who's like, I mean, if someone like us made a movie,

we'd have to do something like that, right? We'd have to cater to our audience, go to like our live events, and then you release it. Oh, that's a good idea. Yeah, no, maybe we'll make mine come up a movie. It's stupid. Anyway, most boring movie ever.

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Our first question is from Hans Mama's New York. My head trainer states that as you get older, you should use a lighter weight and higher reps to help prevent injury from going to heavy. Is there any truth to that? I think there's a little bit of truth to it. It's not entirely true. At the end of the day, of course, it all boils down to the individual. But the truth that this statement contains really has to do more with the risk factors associated

with lifting heavy. The heavier you lift, the more, you know, when you're training the low rep ranges, just because you're handling heavier weight, the risk of injury can be higher in regards to poor form. So if your form is off by a little bit and you're using light weight, the risk of injury is lower than if your form

is off a little bit with heavy weight, for obvious reasons, right? If I'm overhead pressing a weight that I can only do five reps with, and my form goes off a little bit, the compensation that's needed to correct my form, and right in the moment, is much higher. I think for when you first start with an older client, I think this is a really good advice. first start with an older client, I think this is a really good advice. If you, let's say someone comes in and they're 60 years old and never really weight-trained, I might train this way for quite a while to get the reps, the practice, because I don't want to take that much risk, although I know that eventually getting them to where I'm

making them lift heavy enough towards challenging for five reps is going to be extremely beneficial. So while they're getting there, but if I had a client who hires me and they're, you know, 60, but they've been weight training for five years this way, light, light way, they've probably put a lot of practice. They probably squat pretty decent. They probably shoulder press pretty decent because if they've been doing it for five years and high repetitions, they've got a lot of practice of those movements.

And then I would feel a lot safer with progressing them to have your weight if that makes sense. So the operative term here is appropriate. Okay, so should older people not do any agility training at all because agility training at all because agility training is higher risk. Well, no, they just have to do appropriate agility training. That may look like hopping in place a little bit.

So heavy weight low wraps as a trainer, form has got to be perfect and it has to be appropriate to the client because here's the benefits of lifting heavy. Obviously, if it's a new way of lifting for the person, they're gonna build more muscle, gain more strength, but there's also a skill involved with lifting a weight that's heavy, you have to learn how to summon

that kind of strength. And there's a lot of beneficial carryover, but it has to be done appropriately. So I think when anytime you're training someone who's older, you have to place special care on being maybe a little bit more meticulous about perfect form and listening to their body. So if I'm training a 20 year old and they're telling me like, my hip felt a little funny after last week's squat. I'm going to treat that differently than if my 65 year old client says that. My 65 year old client says that I'm gonna treat that differently than if my 65-year-old client says that. My 65-year-old client says that.

I'm gonna air way more on the side of safety than was somebody who's 20 years old or whatever. So appropriate is the key term here. Absolutely, and I totally agree with all that. I think if we're going into aging, if we're like looking at somebody that's like prepping towards, how can I sort of slow down the aging process and look more towards obviously strength

as one of those things that we're gonna highlight is the utmost importance. One thing I've been convinced of lately, even more so, is the need and the necessity for fast twitch type movements and to be able to maintain and sustain that ability, mainly because these quick reactive type movements and to be able to maintain and sustain that ability, mainly because these quick reactive type movements are things in real life. These are things that have the most potential for injuries to occur. To be able to maintain just that ability to the appropriate amount, just like you said, Sal like it could just look like

I'm kind of hopping in place. It could look like a very controlled light kettlebell, but I'm getting that snap. I'm expressing that fast twitch movement, but it's something that I really do need to maintain within everything else. When I've trained older people who are rehabbing an injury, oftentimes, more often than not, the injury came from like, oh, I was in the shower. I slipped a little bit, didn't fall, but I had to catch myself. Boom.

Pull the muscle or tore something. Or I was dropping something and I went down to grab it real quick and I hurt myself. Well, this is also why I think stability training, stability training became so popular too, was for this, because when that started coming, when all the studies around the benefits of that started coming out, this is where I think it was most applicable

as far as what clients you were training, right? The type of client that this would benefit me, I remember doing stuff where they would be standing on both feet, just hopped just to the side, laterally, and then stabilize on one foot, just hop to the side, laterally, and then stabilize on one foot, then hop to the other side. Something that's so basic and simple like that, it could be huge for a client like this

that we're talking about. So, someone who gives this advice as a head trainer, who's probably, I'm always trying to put myself in their shoes, and I'm telling my staff this, I might be telling my staff that because I'm cautioning them, like I might have seen two or three of my trainers squatting with their new client, like heavy load and their form was off and terrible.

And so I'm like trying to correct you and say, hey, you need to do lighter weight, more reps, more practice with this client before you go load her with 130 pounds on her back and try and do a barbell squat. Like she's just not, the prerequisites aren't there for that person. So I give a general statement like this. I see the value in that.

I see the value of not as, you know, when you're managing a team or a staff of people of giving something a general topic like that. But the truth is we want to train and work any client no matter what age they are to a place where they can do strength training. And to them, I have a client right now who's in her 50s, and just the bar,

45 pounds on her back, that's challenging for five reps. Controls slow and deep and focusing on, that's really challenging. She could do body weight squats until she's boom in the face, but as soon as I load it with about 45 pounds on her back, and she's got to stabilize that bar, and we're barefoot and focusing on the way we're staying on the, man, that's slowing the tempo down. I can make those five reps incredibly intense for her.

Yeah, one of the biggest lessons you'll learn, I learned as a trainer, was what appropriate actually meant. You know, it could literally be oftentimes, and this is, you know, later on in my career when I started training people in advanced age, I could be be oftentimes, and this is, you know, later on in my career when I started training people in advanced age, I could be training someone and today's leg workout is you sitting down in a chair and standing up. That's your squats for today. But I remember as a new trainer,

I would see something like that and be like, oh, that's not enough, you're wasting your time. We need to put you on the leg press. We need to get you to really feel sore and whatever. No, no, really appropriate is, that's the thing you gotta focus on. And what is appropriate for this person? If this person is older and deconditioned

or they're only used to one way of training, you just move two degrees over to another direction, and that's it, that's enough. There's no need for you to go any further. And what you think is not enough is probably enough oftentimes. This took me so long to really appreciate and figure out, once I got to this point, I became so effective at training people

in this age category because I really started to appreciate what that meant, what does appropriate mean? What that means today, you know, you know, one of the first exercises I would do is someone in this age group is we'd sit on a bench and I wouldn't have him stand up and sit down. In fact, one of the first exercises I would do is someone in this age group is we'd sit on a bench and I wouldn't have them stand up and sit down. In fact, one of the first things that I'd have them do is a leg extension would no wait, one leg.

They'd sit there, lift their knee up and just extend their leg and come down. And they'd come back to me the next day and be like, oh, I was a little sore. Yeah. So always err on that side and you should be okay. But here's a deal. Have you wait, perfect form is even more important

than it is with lightweight. So that's why there's some truth to what this, you know, this question. Next question is from Finlay Chad. How many hours of cardio can you do each week and still see muscle gain? This is it, I like this question because there's definitely a lot, there's a lot of depends going on here, right?

People here on the show a lot, lots of poopy divers. Let's talk about cardio and it sounds like we're just none of us are fans. It's always just not the best. And I think a lot of that message is because in the 70s and 80s, it was, it was what everyone did for exercise.

Like nobody was really strength training or lifting weights, except for this small and these group. And so we're trying to counter that message as, it's definitely not the best form of exercise to be healthy, to be strong, for longevity. There's a much better approach than doing cardio. That doesn't mean that a cardio doesn't have incredible benefits.

But the other reason why we also talk that way is it's also one of the it's challenging when you're doing a lot of cardio and you also have a goal of wanting to build muscle because cardio in itself is catabolic and trying to build muscle would be anabolic. So it's really tough to ask your body to do two things at the same time. You can if you're eating sufficient amount of calories, this is possible. But the end of the day, if you're eating sufficient amount of calories, this is possible, but the end of the day, if you're doing tons of hours and hours of cardio,

you're telling your body that it to be efficient and to be efficient at running a cardio, it's not wanting to add a bunch of muscles. So there's a sweet spot for every single person, and that's going to depend on each individual. Cardio can actually help you build muscle too. If the cardio that you're doing is optimizing your health, then it can actually help you build muscle.

I remember experiencing this as a young lifter where I was allergic to cardio. I did zero because I, at that point, understood the basics, which was I need more calories than I burn. I want to build muscle. and so my idea was, I'm gonna lift weights and then burn no calories for the rest of the day. And God forbid I did any additional movement,

and definitely was not gonna do cardio, because I'm not gonna burn those precious calories, that my muscles need, that's what I believed. And I remember working with a trainer who was just incredible muscle development and strong, and I saw him doing the occasional cardio, low intensity, but he'd get on the treadmill and walk a pill or he'd do an elliptical

and remember thinking. And I asked him, I said, man, you build a ton of muscle and you still do cardio. I can't imagine how much muscle you build if you didn't do cardio. And he's like, I'd build less. And I'm like, what do you mean? He goes, well, I go, when I didn't do any cardio,

I was unhealthy. I had zero cardiovascular endurance, and it actually took away from my ability to work out. I couldn't do as many squats, and I just didn't feel as healthy. So now I do it just to maintain and keep my health, and it actually helps me build muscle. So I did the same thing, and I noticed the same thing.

So how many of hours of cardio can you do each week and still see muscle gain? You can actually maximize muscle gain. If the cardio you're doing is optimizing your health. If you're not training to maximize endurance, if you're not training to maximize stamina, in other words, cardio isn't the focus of your workout, you're not trying to just get awesome at cardio,

but you're doing it as a way to maintain your health. Same, same, by the way, this is the same thing for like, you know, stretching, like yoga or that type of stuff. Can that take away from muscle gain? It can. Can it also contribute? Definitely. Absolutely.

So if you use cardio as a way to help you lift weights more effectively and to optimize your health, it will actually build more muscle. Well, I saw some significant muscle growth going through sprints with definite elongated rest periods in between, which a lot of people wouldn't really look at that as very cardiovascular, very anaerobic, but in terms of getting the benefits of that and using sprints to build muscle in my legs, it definitely was pretty apparent. Oh, dude, here's a funny thing.

You ever hear a strength athlete who trained with bodybuilders and then they finished the session and they're like, I can barely breathe. Super sets, high reps sets, that's cardio. Exactly. That's a form of resistance training cardio. That's right.

So if I were to program this where I wanna do cardio and I also wanna build muscle, it would look more like the 12th to 25 to 30 minute bouts. And it would be like what Justin said, it would be a more hit type of style where it would be, I would push really hard, then I would let my heart rate could recover completely. I would push really hard, let my heart rate recover. You're going to get the benefits of the cardio as far as strengthening your heart by exercising that way, which will then carry over into your into your lifting routine

and you're not doing so high and high endurance for longer long bouts, which then is gonna tell your body to pare down muscle, doesn't need. So if I were to program cardio and my main goal was still to be weight loss, I would do it and I do this. This is how I would get ready for shows. I would eventually do cardio. I just wouldn't want to do a lot of it when I'm trying to build, right? I would do it more towards cuts. And then when I introduce it, it's the same way that I would introduce it

to somebody who's got this question is 12 minute bouts of hit post workout first. That's how I started off for three days a week. And then it goes a four days a week. Then it goes a five days a week. Then 12 minutes turns into 15 minutes. 15 minutes turns into 20, then eventually 30. And man, you'll be in great cardiovascular shape,

you'll mostly burn body fat by doing that. And as long as you're eating adequate calories, you still should be able to build muscle. But even with that, it depends. Like if you have the person who hit cardio is too much of a stress, walking on the treadmill for 20 minutes might be enough of a stress relief, depending on how they do it.

That will actually contribute to muscle gain. The answer was opened, Adam opened it with it, depends, it's totally true. This is an impossible question to answer definitively because it depends who I'm talking to. And for someone, the right answer may be the exact wrong answer for somebody else. But I think at the end of the day, this is kind of a general answer that I think can apply to most people. If your cardio is optimizing your health and the goal isn't to just become gain

tons of stamina and endurance, it's probably going to benefit you and not take away, I would say, from muscle gain. Next question is from I Hate Matt Vincent. Is it true that if you don't use it, you lose it. Yeah, I think he was trying to be funny here, but it's true. It's not, this is one of the oldest lines in the fitness industry, isn't it? Well, did I bring this up on one of the most recent episodes where I kind of freaked out when I jumped out of my truck? Did I ever have one on the show?

The top of the show was I just talking to you guys. You can't remember. No, you brought it up. Yeah, because it and that's a perfect example of, you know, it had just been a while since I had done any jump boxes or anything like that. And just out of habit, being in the back of a lifted pickup truck and then jumping out, it's, you know, it seemed like no big deal to me, but when I landed, boy, it felt way different than it had felt the last time I had done that. And I know that's because I haven't done it. I haven't trained that. So my body didn't absorb the asphalt when I when I dropped down. I was in a more stiff position and I boy, let me know all the way up my knees in my back

when I did it and I went, oh shit and that was an awakening for me that, this happens at one point in our lives where we just stop doing certain things and we lose the ability. Yeah, and that's just to make us more efficient and effective with our energy and what we're doing. Like our body just recognizes what our biggest,

you know, patterns are every day and, you know, how to allocate those resources in that direction. And so it's like, it's this pruning system it has already. Like, okay, so if we're not doing this, let's go ahead and shuttle that, you know, attention in this direct, because you're doing this more frequently. Yeah, your body is always trying to get just as good

as it needs to get. It's never going to try to aim to exceed what it believes to be the bare minimums. And how does it determine the bare minimums? Well, off of your activity in the signals that you send your body. Now, why, right? Why won't your body get stronger than the bare minimum

that it thinks it needs? Or why won't it get the more agility than the bare minimum that it thinks it needs? Or why won't it get the more agility than the bare minimum that it thinks it needs? Because all of those require energy, just like Justin said. And our bodies evolved for the most part during, you know, long, for most of human history, energy was hard to come by. It was scarce. It made no sense. If your body became inefficient, you starved. It made no sense whatsoever. So your body is not going to be good at jumping. If you don't jump, if you don't never jump, you lose that ability. Your body's like, we don't need this. We don't need this skill. Let's get rid of this and become more efficient. If you don't run, you'll

lose that skill. If you don't ride your bike, you'll lose that skill. If you don't run, you'll lose that skill. If you don't ride your bike, you'll lose that skill. If you don't lift weights, you start to lose strength. This is true for anything at all. Even your ability to handle stress to deal. It's funny. I grew up in a loud house. It was relatively chaotic at times. Big family, loud, stereotypical time people. And growing up, it was just just the way I lived. Not a big deal, if I needed to do homework or do something or whatever, it didn't bother me. I didn't even notice it, moved out. And then I lived in a quiet environment,

lived by myself for a long time. Then I'd go home and I'd be like, I can't handle all this. This noise, all of a sudden. Yeah, it's just like anything, your ability to handle temperature. Absolutely. So if you want to maintain abilities,

you have to practice them. There's absolutely no. And this is a very important lesson for people. It's like, oftentimes we do the stuff that's needed to get us better, but then we forget that whatever we did to get there is what we need to do to stay there. It doesn't stay. Your body never stays. It only adapts. And so you want this. And then when we first,

you know, this is one of the oldest fitness sayings, it's been around forever. It became a parody for a long time. You don't use it. You lose it, you know, I think it's been around since the maybe the 70s and 80s, but it's almost the most true famous fitness saying. I can't think of one. No pain, no gain is the other one. That one's a lot of that's false, but you don't use it, you lose it, totally true. And you could take this to the extreme,

you could literally put your leg in a cast, don't use it, and do that for a year, and watch what your body does to your leg Starts to get rid of it. It's crazy. So absolutely if you want something You got to you got to maintain it and you got to maintain that practice otherwise your body will just get rid of it Next question is from Jackie Martinez 1983 what is a bubble in any industry you feel will be bursting soon? That's good question. Well, I'll stick to the fitness space Because I see this happening in the fitness space.

Although I also see this happening just generally in the social media space. And that's these mastermind groups. This is where you pay a lot of money for access to somebody who has large influence and then they bring you into their training course and with other people willing to spend a lot of money for access to somebody who has large influence. And then they bring you into their training course. And with other people willing to spend a lot of money. And the goal is to teach you how to do what they did.

And part of what they're teaching you is to how to run your own mastermind course teaching other people. And so it's like this MLM type of structure, which, you know, if you just follow it down, it's the line. Eventually it's going to burst because, you know, how many people are going to be teaching people to make these courses, to make money?

You know, I don't know if I agree with you because, and I think I did at one point, I go back and forth on this, and I was talking to somebody over the last weekend about mastermind groups. And they're kind of like fraternities for adults, business adults. It's what's turning. You kind of, you pay to get in and you get access to all these people and they're fun. They're exciting. They're full of motivation and hype.

You have dinners, right? Right. And then the part that I think anybody who's been a part of a fraternity, whether you like it or you didn't like it, probably one of the most beneficial things that most people would agree about fraternities and sororities, is the lifelong connections that you make, especially with business. I look at like my girls business, for example, the company she works for. And you know, if you went to at least half of the people that work in the office, came from Bellarmine. They all came up to the same school and know each other. And you know, and the person who owns it came from Bellarmine.

So we gave lots of them jobs. And so there's kind of this fraternity aspect of it that I think some people, that's enough value for them. And so they justify spending 30, some 50, $100,000 a year on these mentors. And the other thing is the mentorship part, like there's a big push on the agenda that everybody needs to have a mentor, which I agree. I think it's important to have mentors and have people that you look up to and aspire to be like and can help guide you in your business life and potentially your personal life.

So I think that because of that, I don't know if they will die. I'm not a fan of them. I was also not a fan of fraternity. I used to make fun of my best friend who was in a fraternity the whole time that he had to buy his friends and I'm somebody who... They tell you to eat the biscuit, don't. Oh God. Does it cost money to get into fraternity too? Yeah, for too much.

For too much money. Yeah, you have dues, I think. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's similar, right? And so I think for some people, they do find enough value in it. I think the reason why we all fill that way is because it's so not us. And so I'm very careful to be like, ah, that it's gonna die,

especially something like that that's been around for as long as it's been around. Well, here's how I define is bursting. Okay, I don't, bursting doesn't mean it's gonna go away. Bursting just means it's not gonna be, it's gonna grow in the market and then it's gonna pop, and then there's still gonna be a small amount of it, but it's not gonna be like it used to be.

The whole, you know, join my mastermind so we can learn how to use social media to maximize our business. Here's a couple reasons why that's gonna burst, on my opinion. One, essentially, eventually, when you follow it down the line, it's like writing a book on how to make money writing books. Eventually, everybody does that and then there's nothing left.

And lots of people get no value out of it. Most of the majority of people who go to mastermind groups get nothing out of it, but they tell themselves they did to make themselves feel better. But they don't go back. The second reason is because making money through hacking social media without providing any real substance and value, those days are numbered. The algorithms are changing, you're not getting as much access. People, you can have a million. It used to be if you had hundreds of thousands of followers, you could easily turn that into you know, lots of money because you would put out a post or whatever, you'd reach them all, Instagram, Facebook, Twitter,

all these, they're changing the point where you put out something to your 100,000-fog, very small percentage of people see them. And the only people that are getting traction, the ones that really are providing already lots of value, they're getting lots of interaction. And so the old rules apply. And the third reason why I think masterminds

are gonna pop is because a lot of the message that they're selling is, are not the fundamentals that building successful business are built on. The fundamentals of a successful business are hard work, time, present lots of value to your customers. Masterminds are kind of, the ones I've seen are all about hacking the system, the switch do you do that? Well, so what you're bringing up,

I see it from the standpoint of what they've already sort of cracked down on with influencers and how you've seen them lose value and lose authority over the last year. So it's really been like quite dramatic in how they're like changing their algorithms because like their true engagement really isn't even there. It's purely like a numbers thing that they've aggregated

through bots or however they've done it. Their true authentic version isn't being portrayed. And so companies that are trying to invest in them that they're not seeing any return. And so it's like the money is moving away from that whole industry. So I do see that affecting, you know, because a lot of the mastermind was centered around

some of these influential people who, you know, looked like they had a lot of power. But yeah, because the model's like, get some followers and then your most hardcore followers, you sell them a huge ticket item to be part of your mastermind. That's the model right now to make money through social media influence.

I can't see how that's a model that's gonna continue to be as popular as it is. I'm sure it'll always exist, but I can't see how that's going to maintain its growth. Yeah, I think it's going to continue to go on. I think that the rate at Instagram's growth and Twitter and YouTube and the growth of those companies will continue to drop new people that come in that fall into the same traps and do the same thing over and over.

I don't think that it's going to slow down anytime soon. And if it does, it won't be significant enough to call it a pop. I think it's here to stay. Yeah, some of the characteristics of bubbles are, they come out of nowhere and people start making a lot of money but aren't really providing a lot of value. Well, that's also characteristic of a business

that's successful too. Comes out of nowhere, great time. But not providing a lot of value is how bubble's burst. So you look at the house market. You know, housing market took everybody was making money. It was to get alone. You literally just told them how much money you made. You look at that and be like,

well, this isn't gonna maintain itself. It can't possibly maintain itself. Oh, you're drawing parallels to things that are not common at all. I mean, housing market has nothing to do with the way people are influenced with emotion and the insecurities they have with their bodies and all the other things that are manipulated and at all. I mean, housing market has nothing to do with the way people are influenced with emotion and the insecurities they have with their bodies and all the other things that are manipulated

and used in social media. Those are apples and oranges. Yeah, but again, you're comparing. You're dealing with people, you're asking them to spend thousands of dollars for this kind of access. All it takes is one person to figure out that if they give this away for 50 bucks, they take it away from ever.

It's a vulnerable industry that's providing very little real value, which is why I think that's what's gonna happen. I'm not a hater. If I see something providing lots of, but if your value is this and you keep doing this, and other people do it. I also see, I know that there's a lot of value in CBD and like high quality CBD and things that, but I could totally see that whole industry

having a massive burst. That's a good one too. I would absolutely. I could get on board with that more so than the mastermind one. I definitely, CBD will, it's definitely got a peak soon and then come back down. Soon or later, people are gonna be like, okay, it's not for everybody. There's a population of people this does amazing things for.

And the rest of the people, it's kind of a waste of money. A waste of money. So I definitely think that's true. And I think along the lines of things that you said, Sal, that I do agree with that are going to change. And I think it kind of plays into your idea of the mastermind thing blowing up. And that is the people that are running those masterminds and doing those are, is going to shift and change.

Right now it's allowed these fitness models who got popular off of their bodies and on Instagram to take advantage of the quarter million, a half million, a million people following them by organizing these groups that pay them money and they basically try. So I do believe that, and we're already seeing this right now. I mean, and what percentage of these mastermind groups is being run by people like that? Not that much. No, I think, again, now you talk about our bubble that we live in.

Yeah, it seems like a high majority of them because that's my world and your world and that's what we see all the time and so we're like, oh my God, must be everybody. Well, no, there's tons of masterminds and groups like that that have been going on long before Instagram models got, we just see them taking advantage of it. And what I like to think is as they start to fall off and this new breed of people that come up that actually are adding great value that have great pages that lots of people are paying attention and falling, it'll open the door for those people to do those types of mastermind groups. And they will actually be adding more value than some of these models. That's why I don't think the bubble burst,

but I think you'll see a changing of the guard on the type of people that are. There just isn't enough people who can provide real value, who also are wanna make money doing that. Like if you see someone who's providing a lot of value with their business, making tons of money doing it, they're probably not gonna think to themselves, hey, I'm gonna also do this expensive mastermind, what I see going on right now is a lot of these people have know what, this is how they make their money. they're probably not gonna think to themselves, hey, I'm gonna also do this expensive mastermind,

what I see going on right now is a lot of these people have know what, this is how they make their money and they really don't have a successful business without it. And I don't see a lot of value. And so, again, I think it's gonna exist. I just don't think it's gonna be so many. There's so many that are out there and it keeps growing. Have you guys heard of of Ricky and body design?

No. OK, so this was brought to my attention by multiple people that, especially down in LA, is a big thing where they've even basically compared it to actors how they always end up being a waiter or having a part-time job that they're hanging around. The new thing now is energy working and doing all this spiritualism stuff.

Oh, you said raky. Raky, raky, raky. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's huge. If I can't make it and entertain me and or be, I'm doing that. That's like, pervading the entire area. It's making its way up here. I'm like, what are they talking about? I'm doing that. And that's like, pervading the entire area. And it's like,

making its way up here. And I'm like, what are they talking about? I'm an intuitive, the fuck is an intuitive? It's a thing now. So I'm like, I'm keeping my eye on it,

but apparently they're saying like it's growing and like that's something else. So I'm just like, okay, I smell some BS. Well speaking of things, Bubbles Busting, have you, the stock market, we've had the longest

bull market ever, ever. The last 10 years has been a massive bull market and the stock market. And today it's still hitting record highs. Now, yeah, historically speaking, this means there's gonna be a big, climbing, climbing, climbing. Oh, yeah.

You know, that's gonna hit. Like, remember the roaring 20s, you know, with a seam that way, it was like everybody could make money, everybody was. And then the great depression. And then we had the great depression. And it was, this is following, you know, 2008,

after 2008 crash, right on 2009-10, it grew and grew and grew. And overall, I don't know what the numbers are. I was just reading an article this morning about it. And they're like, this is the longest running bull market ever. So maybe the next bubble to see the stock market, which is kind of scary. See what happens there.

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