Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1206: Reasons to Avoid Smith Machine Squats, The Net Carbs Myth, How to Protect Your Knees When Squatting & Lunging & More

Episode Date: January 15, 2020

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about whether squats and lunges are bad for your knees, squatting on a Smith machine, how to setup and execute a close grip bench press, and using net carbs when counting your macros. XFL comeback date is set. Will the guys be watching? (5:54) Old ‘fit’ awesome looking people. (8:37) Do you communicate with the intent to impress or influence? (14:34) Old people rage stories. (17:03) Why is Gwyneth Paltrow selling a candle that smells like a certain body part? Would the guys buy it? (21:57) Sex after kids. (28:22) Mind Pump reminisces on Rush and their drummer Neil Peart. (34:56) Sal’s a big ‘wing’ guy. (37:52) Tesla hitting new highs in the stock market! (40:45) Can a wristband tell you what you should and shouldn’t eat based on your DNA? (42:47) #Quah question #1 – Are squats and lunges bad for your knees? (47:03) #Quah question #2 – Is squatting on a Smith machine still beneficial if your gym doesn’t have a free weight squat rack? (54:13) #Quah question #3 – Apart from the hand position, how are the setup and execution a close grip bench press and a standard bench press different? (1:00:19) #Quah question #4 – Can you explain net carbs? Is this even important to consider when counting your macros? (1:03:11) People Mentioned Hunter McIntyre (@huntthesheriff)  Instagram Jason Phillips (@jasonphillipsisnutrition)  Instagram Adam Ray (@adamraycomedy)  Instagram   Related Links/Products Mentioned January Promotion: MAPS HIIT ½ off! **Code “HIIT50” at checkout** Grace and Frankie | Netflix Official Site The Purpose Driven Life: What on Earth Am I Here For? - Book by Rick Warren Are you a Mind Pump Listener? Get NCI’s Top Selling Thyroid MASTERCLASS...for free! Gwyneth Paltrow's got a $75 "smells like my vagina" candle Rush Drummer Neil Peart Dead at 67 - Rolling Stone Visit Butcher Box for this month’s exclusive Mind Pump offer! Musk nears $346 million payday as Tesla market value soars DnaNudge wristband tells you what you should and shouldn't eat The ONLY Way You Should Be Doing Lunges! (Build GREAT Legs) - Mind Pump TV How to Box Squat to Improve Your Squat Form – Mind Pump TV The Only Way You Should Be Doing Bulgarian Split Squats! (BUTT GROWTH) - Mind Pump TV Mind Pump Free Resources

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Saldas Defano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. Welcome to Mind Pump. In this episode, we answer people's fitness and health questions. It's our Qua episode, Real People. And at the beginning of the episode, we talk about current events, our lives. Oftentimes, we mention our sponsors. Here's what went on in this awesome episode of Mind Pump.

We start out by talking about the XFL. This is a new professional football league. We'll be starting right after the Super Bowl. Talk about whether or not we think it's going to succeed. Then we come back. Then we talk about old, fit, awesome-looking people. Jane Fonda, she looks phenomenal. 82 years old, she's on that show.

Total guilt. Grace and Frankie, and then Justin brought up one of his older people crushes, Richard Simmons. That's my guy, right there. He's doing pretty good too. Then we talked about whether or not you communicate to impress or to influence what each one of them means, and that reminded us of fitness and nutrition certifications and

how some of them seem to just give you lots of information, which is great. You'll sound impressive. Look what I did. But they don't really teach you how to influence your clients. Now one of our favorite certifications that does help you influence, learn actually how to influence your clients, is NCI. The NCI certifications are phenomenal. And we work with them so we got you a massive discount.

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you get that certification for free. Go check that out. You're welcome. Then Adam talks about how he almost got in a fight with an old guy. I bet he would have won. I think he would have won. Old fights.

We talk about Gwyneth Paltrow's candle. Apparently it smells like her vagina and it sold out. That's kind of crazy. We talk about sex after kids and how it doesn't exist anymore, poor Adam. I talked about Neil Perth, the drummer from Rush, who recently passed away. What a badass, actually, one of my idols.

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And finally, I talk about the low calorie context. Out lot of foods are okay when your calories are low. Then we got into answering the questions. The first question was, are squats and lunges bad for your knees? So we talk all about squats and lunges and we dispel the myth that they're both bad for the knees. The next question, this person wants to know if squatting on a Smith machine is beneficial. So Smith machine is where a barbell is stuck on a track.

You can do lots of exercises on it. Is it still good or should I stick to the free weights? The next question, apart from hand position, this person wants to know what the setups and executions are of the close grip bench press. Now the close grip bench press, one of the best exercises for your triceps. So if you want to try this one out, that exercise out, listen to this one of the best exercises for your triceps. So if you wanna try this one out, that exercise out, listen to this part of the episode because we describe how you should do it the right way.

And the final question, this person wants to know all about net carbs. So if you're a low carb dieter, you may have noticed on your low carb products that rather than listing the total carbs, they list the net carbs. Is it wizardry, is it baloney? Or is it good? Should you pay attention to that?

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and we'll get that shirt right out to you. How about them Niners? Woo! Wow, dude. Yes. Yeah, no, it's a, I'm excited for them, dude. I tell you what. There's some dethroning going on.

I may watch the Super Bowl this time, if they're there. No. Yeah, I probably will. Let's have a party. To continue with that conversation. So XFL is February 8th I think Super Bowl is like the second or the four that weekend. Perfect. So they pick up on the 8th So they it does like spring ball like right when you have that void. Yes, like the worst really smart. Yeah Well, that's their best chance Totally, you know, I'm saying no, I love that. I'll I'll give it a go

I was just gonna say do you guys think you'll you'll make time to watch it? Well, that's their best chance. Totally. You know what I'm saying? No, I love that. I'll give it a go. I was just going to say, do you guys think you'll, you'll make time to watch it? I'll definitely, at least, watch a little bit to see if it's someone entertaining. It may play out. Okay, so like it's really, if you don't make the NFL, like it's really common, you go up to Canada,

or you go overseas, and you play a Europe ball. So it may end up replacing that, right? Or a rena ball, right? So those are kind of the three things that you go do if you don't make the NFL. That was kind of the thing of the arena ball that annoyed me was just how different the rules and the way the game was played was. You know, yeah, very few guys, very few guys come out of arena football and make the transition to NFL. Does anybody watch arena football? Sure. On TV probably

live, not on TV. Oh, I would imagine. Yeah, I don't even know if it's broadcast. I mean, I'm sure now with everything streaming. Because XFL is mainstream. Aren't they trying to broadcast that mainstream? Yeah, they're trying, yeah. Lots of money going into it.

A ton of money. Is it McMahon still? Yeah. Again, huh? He's got so much money. He doesn't know what to do. Stupid money. Like, is he a billionaire?

He's looking for a progencer. That's a good question. Maybe Doug can Google that. I'm sure he's got so much money. He doesn't know what to do stupid money. Like is he a billionaire? He's looking for a Prochets maybe ducking Google at I'm sure he's a billionaire this guy's got to be did I ever tell you guys about the time I saw him And you know what what goal is what constitutes a a millionaire billionaire? Is it your net worth or your income every year? Net worth it's not worth no you're bringing no, no, it's not worth, it's not worth. Yeah, no, no, it's not worth because it's because it's not that hard to be as all the assets of millionaire or I mean billionaire is still hard, right? But to have, there he is, look at 2.5 billion. Yeah, he's a billionaire. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, it's not worth see. Because very, very, okay, so if you look at all the millionaires, quote, unquote, millionaires, there's a lot of accidental millionaires in the Bay Area, you know, old people who bought their homes, San Jose, you know, 30 years ago, that's not worse. That's why I meant by that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you're considered a millionaire then.

You are. You are. A very small percentage of people smaller, much smaller, of people who are millionaires and that worth actually earn a million dollars or more a year. That's a real small percentage. And then people who earn a billion dollars a year, that's a very small percentage. I mean people who earn a billion dollars a year,

that's a very small percentage. I mean, I don't even think you're probably looking at like a few people who actually earn billion dollars a year. Oh yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. I told you guys, I'd never tell you when I saw Vince McMahon at Gold's lifting.

Yeah, well, how'd that happen? I was, I mean, I was just working out and. He's a big boy, right? He's, I mean, he's old. Yeah. He's older. And so he lifts weight. You guys ever see an old school, like body builder who's probably in their, like you've ever seen a body builder

in their 70s, Lifuets, you know what I'm talking about? Yeah. It's light, it's focused. They're just trying to get a pump straight on their face. Yeah, it's just they're trying to get a pump. That's kind of how he worked out. Like you could tell he's trained like a body builder. How long ago was that?

This was a couple years ago maybe. Is he in his 70s? Is that where he's at now? Vince McMahon. I think so. Yeah, he's gotta be at least dude. You know who looks phenomenal? Who looks amazing for their age?

Jane Fonda. Oh yeah. Oh my gosh. Are you just now starting to watch that show or something? Grayson Frankie. Gray show by the way. Yeah, Katrina loves that show. Yeah, have you watched it?

Yeah, I've seen it. It's one of the shows that she plays when I'm like kind of doing something. I was fun working on the computer. Oh, it's hilarious. So, and I like it because I can hear it and it's comedy, right? So Vince is 54. Yeah. She's the queen of the in-home workout.

Well, so Jane Fonda in the movie plays a 70 year old and she looks phenomenal for a 70 year old. In reality, she's 82 years old. So she looks so fucking good that on the TV show, she plays a seven year old and still looks good. We can't make you 80. Nobody will connect with you. Yeah, so I was, so I was taught she's 82 years old to that 19th or two. Look at her, too, dude.

She's so I was talking to, because Jessica started watching the show and she's like, so you know what the premise is about the show, Justin? I don't know anything. Okay, so I'll tell you the premise. It's like two couples, they're friends. The wives are very different, kind of don't like each other, but whatever the husbands or business partners have been partners for years.

They've all been married for over 40 years. When they retire, the husbands come to the wives and say, hey, we got news for you. We're gonna leave you because we're marrying each other. So the man actually, yeah. And so, but it's this really well-written show. It's great. But anyway, I'm watching it with Jessica.

And in, you know, just, I'm telling them like, man, Jane Fonda looks phenomenal. And I'm like, you have no idea. I said, she's older than she plays in this show. And she's like, no way. So I looked it up. And I said, look at how she moves. Look at her posture. Look at her mobility. at her mobility. She just never stopped, right? That's it. She's

a gone. She's a fitness icon for decades. She was probably the biggest at home fitness video, you know, selling person of all time. She's always been in the nutrition. She's also been crazy. Meanwhile, where is Richard Simmons? Yeah. Okay. I want to start a campaign all over again for him. Is he still MIA? No, is he back?

He's not in the scene of anywhere. He's gone for a while. Like people were worried about. Dude, that guy made, do you guys know how he made his first, like millions? No. Do you guys remember his first product? Well, I just remember that, like, yeah, he just did like some,

some like fat, like, what was it like burn the fat? Like, I forget the name of the title. So he made something called deal a meal. Oh, yeah, that's right. It was called deal a meal, actually brilliant. And what it was was. Sweating to the oldies, that was what I was thinking. That's later, later on he made fitness videos,

that's the videos, yeah. And he's, and he crushed with those. Yeah. but the way he started was was something called deal a meal I think it was called deal a meal if I'm not missing me Doug can look it up And it were these cards that after you ate something from a portion that you were supposed to or whatever You got the card and moved it over so basically it was a very easy food tracking System, I did not know that and he did very well with it And then of course, his advertising was phenomenal because he was a former obese person.

Yeah. So his commercials were him crying with like really obese people and being empathetic and whatever. Yeah, he's like hugging everybody. Oh, there it is. Deal a meal. Look at that. And then being extra happy. You could still buy it.

Yeah. Yeah. Wow. What is it? $120. Oh, wow. Now, the only reason, you know why I know this shit? Get one of those. You guys might not why. We should get one because I loved Infomercials some reason when I was a kid. Yes. I loved them. Really? Did you guys like them? I mean, I would watch them

Yeah, I love them. Yeah, I got sucked in you know, it's funny. I was watching an infomercial. I caught myself late at night I saw you know who I saw hunter What do you mean hunter from OCR our boy? Yeah, where know who I saw? Hunter. What do you mean? Hunter from OCR. Our boy. Yeah. Where did you see him? He's got a new product out there with like, I don't know, it was like a beach body kind of a thing

where they do like a tough motor, like wrapped version of a group class. Oh wow. Yeah. So he has a full infomercial, like late night thing and it kept repeating over and over and I was like, I can't tell you something about this. It's a secret, secret like wish.

I would love to be on an infomercial. No. Yes, I would. Yes, I would. I don't think you make any money. I know. I don't know if they do anything anymore. No, I've got to step up your cheese game, dude.

But I would, maybe that's why I watched so many, you know, I like to do sales and fitness, probably because I watched infomercials when I was a kid. Yeah. You know, so like, this is how you do it. You got to be extra campy, you know. I wanna really, I wanna really get paid for that. I think they convinced, it's the same idea,

I think it's like getting you in magazines, it's that they convince all these young guys that girls that, you know, it's amazing and you get to be famous cause you're on TV. Girl, they say, I think it's stepping stone, you know, it's like to acting and all that kind of stuff. I think they still make a lot of money. No, I think they do. No. I don't think they make as much as they used to. I think they still make a lot of money. No, I think they do.

I don't think they make as much as they used to. I'll ask Hunter, I guarantee it. I'll guarantee you to make shit from that. Partly anything. Well, you remember George Foreman, that was back when before internet. Bro, he made a fuck ton of money because he had the product.

Yeah, he owned it. He owned, yeah, he owned the Foreman. Oh, you don't think he, I'm sorry, you don't think Hunter owns. Of course not. I don't think so. You're just a face now. Tough, tough modern, the real brand.

When you're talking about Richard Simmons, who made a product, that's totally different. For sure different. Somebody like Hunter or what you see a lot of times, especially with fitness, I mean, I think 90 plus percent of all the fitness people you see on the infomercials, the program, everything is bought, and then you go out and you seek somebody

who fits the description and then you throw them in, right? So yeah, I don't think he makes any money. Speaking of fitness, so you had a book you had you sent it or recommended to Jessica. Purple was a purpose-driven life. Yes, okay. There was a segment in there, and this, believe me, this goes back to fitness. There was a segment in there, and this, believe me, this goes back to fitness.

There was a segment in there, what he was talking about, whether or not you're, when you're communicating to people, are you doing so with the intent to impress, or are you doing so with the intent to influence? Very, very different things. And it made me think about the fitness space and how often trainers and fitness professionals and education, even educational companies.

Sometimes it sounds like they're just trying to impress their clients or impress the people around them by all the stuff they know and how smart they are, but they do such a terrible job of actually influencing people and getting people to change how they are. You know what I'm saying? Or to adopt new behaviors. I thought about this and I thought, God, this applies to everything. Like anytime you have communication with your wife

or your friends, you're at a party, are you trying to impregnist impress? In which case you can kind of come off as pretentious, not effective, or are you truly trying to influence what a completely different way of communicating? Well, that's a John C. Maxwell says that all leadership is is influence, right? So if you're influencing people, you're a leader. If you're not, you're not a leader.

No, no, no. And it may be think about like the difference between like NCI and other online, like nutritional courses, like when you look at the other courses, it's shit tons of just information. Lots of science, lots of information. And we did all the homework. Yeah, and if you learn that as a trainer, and you just learn tons of information, you're gonna go back and probably impress your clients,

but you're not gonna have a very, you're not gonna do a very good job influencing them because you haven't learned how to really communicate things. How do you communicate that information, right? How do you influence people? That's why I like NCI the way that they show them stuff. And things that we connected with Jason, right? When we first met Jason a couple of years back was that,

you know, it's one thing, we meet a lot of smart people, right? But when you meet somebody who's really smart, they're comfortable with how smart they are and understanding nutrition and fitness. And then they care more about the application of it and how people receive it and teach it aside from like just coming off as, oh, I'm a smart guy, I know my information.

And we always connect extra. I think we connect with those people and that was somebody, somebody like Jason, when we first met him, you could tell right away. And so it speaks into his programming and stuff that they've done over there at NCI, so it's a good job. Hey, did I hear you say this morning when you came in that you got in a confrontation or something? Did I hear you right?

You had no edgy this morning. No, no, no, I was fine. It was this weekend. So I'm driving Katrina's car and then I'm over at the grocery store. You know, it's funny in California. Maybe this is a state thing, a country thing, I don't know. But like when you go to like Europe, and I've heard this about New York,

even though I've not been to New York, but like the horn is like a courtesy. Like you go to anywhere in Europe and like people, you're right, you're right. It's like you're letting someone know, I'm merging over, I'm close to you. And it's not as personal. Yeah, everybody honks.

Everywhere you go, everybody honks, it's kind of like, all the time, it's just like getting you know, I'm merging go, everybody, the honks, it's kind of like, all the time, it's just like, get letting you know I'm merging in, or you almost got me there. Sure. Totally, but in California, like you lay the horn, it's like a finger. It's like the finger, it really is.

And I've never been that way, and maybe that's because I've been over there before, and I'm like, oh, that's a smart way to use it. Like just kind of letting people know, right? And, you know, I back her car into the spot and as I'm doing it, I also see this guy who's backing up. I don't think he saw that I moved into the spot behind him. And he's moving back pretty quick.

And I see that he's not slowing up and he's getting closer and closer. And I just kind of hit the horn. I don't hit my car. Yeah, yeah, let him know that I'm back there. And dude throws it in park, takes the seat belt off, gets out and I'm like, oh, this dude's gonna get out. No, he did it.

He's swear to God, dude. He's a great a fisticom. Yeah, yeah. And I don't know, maybe it's the older me or what do I thought, like it doesn't even rile me up. I just get like a big smile on my face. Slowly roll my window down, lean my head out. Oh, hey guy.

And I said, hey, that was a courtesy, hey guy, I said, hey, uh, that was a courtesy honk guy. I said, you want me to get out though? No, no, yes, I did, yeah. And he looked at me, and then he just would be back at his car. Oh, yeah, that's like, come on guy. I mean, I couldn't believe he got out of his car over that.

It was literally like one little honk. He was, he was backing up towards my car. Old man or her car, yeah, no, he was only about Maybe he maybe he had 10 years on me. So we weren't that far off like 50. Yeah, so that's like the cusp That's that's right when Gutman old man, you know start that whole attitude started proud. She yeah, yeah, like really It's really like yeah, you could tell he was like and I was I wasn't even on that like there's times Trust me when I get angry driving when people cut was like, and I was, I wasn't even on that. Like, there's times, trust me,

when I get angry driving when people cut off, do this, and I've had road rage before, but I wasn't even in that space. It was just, I backed up, I know I kind of, I moved into a spot pretty quick, this dude was backing up, and, you know, you don't want to back, I don't want him to back into her car.

Oh my God, he just reminded me of a story. You wanna hear old rage, old people rage. So in Italy, this was one of my cousins. I guess, so the houses in Sicily, at least where my family lives, they're fucking close to each other. And there's different floors on the building and there's families that live on each floor. And some people don't have air conditioning. And so windows are open and it's loud and whatever.

And I guess this lady, who lived like across the street from one of my cousins, and now my cousin, keep in mind, was 70, okay. And the lady that I'm talking about was also in her 70s. And I guess this lady was across the street, was fighting with her husband and yelling and yelling. And the windows are all open, it's nighttime, so everybody hears everything.

So finally my cousin was yelling back, shut up, you know, and they're like, fuck you, and then she keeps fighting with a husband, you know, and then you fucking keeping us up and then, ah, back and forth or whatever. So my cousin lost her shit, got in her husband's three wheels. So my husband sold fruit in these,

they're, these like trucks with three wheels, and if you've ever seen them, so like they're small trucks, but there's one wheel in the front they're, these like, trucks with three wheels, and if you've ever seen them, so like they're small trucks, but there's one wheel in the front, two in the back, and they carry like baskets and shit of fruit or whatever, you sell them. So it's a lumbretta, it's called, right? So she got in that fucking thing and rammed it into their garage.

I really? And then, yes, and then got out. So then the other woman got out of her, got out, got, went downstairs, got in her husband's fucking Lombretta and rammed into my cousin's garage. No, you lie right. No, this happened like 15 years ago. So they rammed into each other's garages,

then they went out downstatt and they started fighting and the husbands had to pull them off of each other. These are 77 year old Italian women losing their shit. Oh my God, it's hilarious. The police shows up and everybody just thought it was so funny that they did that. So, and their neighbors, they live across the street from the house. Yeah, they get them poles so they can like joust. In Texas, it's okay, right?

Right. Yeah, Texas has got that new law, right? Where you can... It has to be mutual. That's mutual. You can out your ram, you're shit in my garage, I ram yours, it's fucking on. That's a good for tat. Yeah, that's a good for tat.

So you have one black eye, you have one black eye, you guys are even. Yeah, no one's going to jail. Okay, and the story. We're all good. Anyway, speaking of crazy stuff, did you guys see, you know, you guys not going with Paltrow as a company?

I was getting bring this up, dude. Yeah, I saw the same exact thing. So Goop is her company, right? And she's fucking makes tons of money on that. Yeah, she just sells beauty products and bullshit health products. Yeah, exactly, like anyways, lots of that stuff. And so I guess she's selling a candle.

And sold out. Sold out, can you guess what the smell of it was? Yeah, the type of a gift smell. it was? The type of, yeah. Yeah, because she came out with a candle with a specific scent. Okay. That sold out. Okay, icebreaker to Regina. Stupid, it is not.

Yes, it is. Where vagina. You lied to me right now. No, we're not lying, dude. Is it true story? Yeah. Google it, Doug, show Adam the crazy first of all. She sold a candle that smells like her vagina.

How accurate. And it's what's it titled? What's the secret of all? Chemical live vagina? Is it a vagina on a good day? Candles says after running. It's selling vagina-cell scented candle, and it's already sold out.

Yeah, I want to see what the name of this. Good point, Adam. Like what is it called? Yeah, what do you call it? It's a sparkly. It's a 75 dollar candle. It's a 75 dollar candle. Yeah, that smells like a... It's sold out. So what's funny is, I was so interested.

I was paying attention to this, right? And I was following this guy. I think his name's Adam Ray as a comedian. And he tweeted out about, you know, this... They might as well have, you know, the rock have a candle smelling like his balls, right? Sell out. He'll probably sell out.

So the rock like responded, and now they're like both talking with each other, trying to see if they can make this work, like sell a candle that smells like the rocks balls. Wait a minute, wait a minute. Is that real right there, Doug? The, wait, hold on. It's said there that the name of the candle

is that a picture of it, Doug? Yes, it says, this smells like my vagina. Hahaha. Oh my God. Well, you know, I've always thought about this, Doug? Yes, it says, this smells like my vagina. Hahaha. Oh my God. Well, you know, I've always thought about this, right? It's probably, you've always thought about it. No, no, no, no, I've always thought about it. I've said this before, as a celebrity,

if you, like, especially like, okay, think of the rock. Think of it, and you know that you can make molds of your own dick, right? All right. Imagine how much money he would make if he sold a mold of his money. They make chocolate buttholes, too. Just random chocolate buttholes is different, though.

I mean, if it's a, if it's a celebrity's chocolate butthole. If it's a celebrity, no, no, no, good point. Yeah, if it's something like that, but I think like that would just, you would make so much money. Well, it's, okay, so there was, who is that one influencer who sold her bath water

and sold a shit ton of them? What? Yeah, there was this one Instagram celebrity or YouTube celebrity girl. To mean to get more creative. And she sold, we're not that big bro. We talked to marketing team. Yeah, we're not that we'll maybe sell one. Stupid.

Yeah, right there. Oh, Bell Daphine. She sold her bath water for $30 a jar. Wow. It's because she's supposedly attractive and, boys or whatever, you know, you should, like weirdos. Freakin' out of, so what kind of people,

let's think of it, what kind of people would buy a vaginous smelling, or a guineath paltros vaginous smelling? I would. Can't why? Yeah, I would. Just the novelty of it. Purely out of curiosity.

Wanna know what her vaginous smell like? Purely out of curiosity. Yes, I mean what her vagina is. Purely out of curiosity. Yes. I mean, at least one time. Would I be a recap customer? Yeah, I don't know. Be it somebody's house that's burning it. But I'm just curious to like, how do you do that?

And would I like it? Like would I be, would I light it up? And be like, this is really nice for, could I light it with my mom's over and family's over and then be like, what is that smell? hilarious It's very vagina in here Grandpa's hella happy all day

It's sunders house smells amazing it could also be guys who get it to cover shit up You know what I mean like girl comes girl comes home and she's like, what the fuck? Oh, it's the candle. Yeah. That didn't bang. There was no shit in her. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

I have a giant candle. Yeah, that's not other. What's the second candle gonna be? That she's gonna put out her poop? Well, her fart. I mean, I didn't even know this was it. I can't, I don't know. I thought you guys were pulling my leg.

That's what I think that's going too far, so. That's some serious, I tell you what, okay, let's step back for a second. The fact that people actually bought a candle that smells like her vagina, okay, whatever, fine. Let's go, let's take a little, let's take a backwards journey for a second. How did she make that?

Yeah. What's I mean, like the formulation process, so they? Look at the ingredients, though. What are the ingredients? Is geranium, citrusy, bergamot, and cedar? And cedar. So, you know, it's just keep your gimmick. It's just keep your gimmick.

I'm sure, and let's just ask what she puts on it. Yeah, that's her vagina. So it's cedar. Okay, so it's like a total spoof then. It's not really, it's just a normal candle, and she puts it, it's not. It's normal candle. She's just trolling.

She's claiming that it smells like a brilliant though. Yeah, like kidding. Okay, so if it smells like a brilliant though. Yeah. Oh my god. Okay, so if it did smell like, I was gonna say because the process might have been funny. What does she have like, she has like, scientists, smell scientists come,

like bacteria come. Analyze her, they do the thing, and they come back, they compare the two. Oh, it's the wrong day, come tomorrow, because today it's a different smell. What, what a brilliant, brilliant marketing scheme though. Well, she, do you look at all the, I'm sure we're not going to let it.

It's Tyrol, yeah. Her company makes a shit, you know her podcast is one of the top health podcasts on iTunes, and I tell you something right now. It's terrible. And I tell you, her health advice is, can we go through some of her claims? She's claimed so many like wacky things.

Yeah, borderline crazy and sometimes dangerous, usually just useless information. That doesn't really have any value. Yeah, usually. Wow. Anyway, this guy said that. We know Adam will buy one. Buy.

Well, now I wouldn't know because now it's like it would just be the regular candle. Because it doesn't smell like a jacket. Yeah. I mean, real tough. How do we get a refund? Yeah, I want my money. I want my money, but it's just like putting things

in my grandma's house. Yeah. It's a trick me. Liar. Liar. You imagine finding that candle when you're a 14-year-old. You're a virgin, it's just like Christmas tree. No way.

Could you imagine as a 14-year year old boy you find this candle? It totally makes you think some shit. You know what I mean? You find it. Oh my god, this is what it smells like. Yeah, then you're so. It ruins it for you for every other girl. It doesn't smell like that.

Nothing like that. This is bullshit. That candle that my dad had. Adam had. Yeah. Anyways. Hey speaking of sex talk, though, you know, I was thinking about you this weekend, so wow

That's that that's a loaded statement right there. Hey, when I retake his compliment No, no, I saw questions around you Well, you know and trying for a baby and all that stuff like that and you know got me thinking I thought you know I wanted to sell are you sure you want to have a kid dude? Am I sure? Yeah, you That is not a decision that I make did you I mean, I know it's been a long time. So want to have a kid, dude? Am I sure? Yeah, you're so stupid. That is not a decision that I make. Did you, I mean, I know it's been a long time, did you guys should have a sleepover? Yeah, you should, no, I should have two kids.

I went through it, I know. Yeah, I know, I know. I feel like you're recently. I feel like you guys must forget, you know what I'm saying? Well, you're in the middle of the shit right now. So to be fair, if you ask almost anybody, if they want to know the kid, before their kid is like three years old, so are they're gonna be like, if you ask almost anybody, if they want another kid, before their kid is like three years old,

so are they gonna be like, I don't know, probably not. Yeah, and the sex thing is, you remember that, what's that old wise tale that if you put a marble in the jar for every time you have sex before you get married and then after you get married, if you take a, You'll never empty the jar.

You'll never empty the jar or whatever, right? I don't think that's true. I think the marriage thing I said to you, I think I said I'm gonna do the kids. Oh, for totaling. I think the kid thing is what fucks that whole interrupters, that math of course. I'm like, no, I think if Katrina,

just as Katrina and I going down in the wedding, going down in the chat, the mid-cock block, who would not have slowed things down. The kid, 100%. But the one positive side of what I'm finding, so sex is either, it's almost non-existent, but when it does happen, it's either awful or epic. Oh yeah, yeah. It's either built up or, okay, we gotta do this.

Or it's like a timing thing, right? It's like, hurry up, hurry up, we got five minutes here. You know what I'm saying? You can make that fun. I heard a noise. Yeah, you can make that fun fun. Fun is not. No, I want like you got to get a little rough with that one. Yeah, but even even that can get it. It can get it can get ruined by a crying baby

too early or what. Oh, that's like that. That's terrible. That's the instant killer. Yeah, no, yeah, man, epicness happens when like all the stars align

and you're both not exhausted, he gets the bed early and on time and he's sleeping hard and you know he's out for at least four minimum hours and it's like, oh yeah, yeah, it's go time. You have to mentally be okay with it because it's just thinking, and it doesn't change until later. Like it takes, it's like two or three years of that.

And then after about two or three years, then it starts to come back a little bit usually. But in the beginning, because he's so needy, you know what I mean? You have to tend to him so often that, of course, that's funny, you're the one that used to talk about, you couldn't have, oh no, I can't keep up with our short circuit.

Oh yeah, now it is funny how that shifts. That's definitely shifted the other way around. It's, I do find myself chasing for it now. So in most story. Which I, which I, I know you warn me, you said, oh, I remember, bro. I knew never I've been worried. Don't worry.

It happens. Yeah. She don't want to listen to that wisdom. Yeah, you immune to it. She, she talks, you know what the other thing is bullshit bullshit too, is you can't touch the boobs when they look awesome and filled up with milk.

I mean, that's such a stupid thing. You just take that thing. Nobody tells you these things. You know what I'm saying? Like, nobody told me that. You didn't know that? No, I didn't know that. You thought they were gonna be like,

before you could do whatever you want? Yeah, pretty much. No, you know what I'm saying? I mean, you guys never warned me of that. You never said like, oh, her boobs are gonna be amazing. It's gonna be full of milk, but you can't touch them. Nobody said that. They're feedbacks. Nobody said that to me. I swear to God, I'm gonna write a book just to help for all these dudes that are thinking about having kids like sex after kids.

Yeah, let me tell you, let me give you some information. Nobody shared the real deal. Yes, yes. Number one, it's less. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Pretty, yeah, from which plays out that way every time. But, you know, you gotta, dude, this is the thing. When you have kids, it becomes spontaneous sex, because here's the thing, I think couples, they develop this expectation that they're gonna always be able to have

lots of spontaneous sex. Because when you're a couple and you don't have kids Sex is almost never planned. It's always spontaneous like we're in the mood. Oh my god I'm horny whatever did you know we had a couple drinks spontaneous sex you could pretty much Fuck it off until your kids are way older It's gonna have to be planned and it's yeah if you can't wrap your mind around that great events Yeah, if you can't rip your man. it can't be too obvious. You have to. You have to plan.

That's what I've had to learn. It's literally like, I know couples who literally plan, you know, Friday nights, that's our time to be together. Yeah. And that's probably when we'll have sex if we're gonna have sex. Yeah, the only time that we, you start to get into theater.

Yeah, you get it. What? And we're now the nerdy parents too that do that, which I always thought was so annoying, but it's not, I'm now them. Like you get it now when it happens to you, where we're so amazed at everything he does. Do you find yourself telling people that?

Yeah, oh yeah, oh he's looking at me now. I don't know, I mean like really looking at him, saying like in my eyes. Yeah, the stupidest things. Oh he's reaching, he's reaching out for things. He's saying, beyond. Yeah, look at it, look at he's reaching he's reaching out for things beyond yeah, look at it Look how he he reckon he knows my voice now, you know Now are you are you checking yourself with stuff like this like when he does certain things?

Of course are you are you finding yourself going like to you know to Katrina like I think he's advanced Oh, he might be brilliant of course of course you think your son is like so so advanced I mean I'm already bragging about, like so he was premature, right? So he's four weeks early. And when you're four weeks early, when you do the doctor checkup, you're the likelihood that you're going to be in the 100% dialer ahead on all of his growth.

Like he's lower. Yeah, he's lower. He started earlier. Yeah. And he just, he broke the 100% dial for high, like this last month, like he exposed. So he's been every checkup, he's been like 50%, everything he hits 100% height now.

I'm like, oh, yes. Honey, we have an NBA star. It's tough. It's like, yeah, you catch yourself doing all that. I remember when my son was a baby, I think it was like five months old. He made this sound with his mouth, but it sounded like he said a word,

and I just wanted to believe so bad that he could talk. Like, oh yeah, he said, no, he said something. He's like, yeah, it sounded like he just, you know, Katrina does it already right now. He's calling daddy, I can tell. Oh, I'm like, can't it the fuck outta here? I thought for sure, yeah, my kid could read like way early. Like, and he, because we drive by like trucks,

and you know, and you'd be like, bread, and you'd point at it And it's just because he saw the picture of the bread And it said like something bread and I was like oh my god, he's a genius Crazy dude, did you guys are you guys rush fans? Yeah, of course Tom Sawyer. Oh, yeah, I mean somewhat But I do you strummer all time all time one of the best all time I was as a kid the first time I heard Rush I was I think 16 years old and

That was really around the time I started getting into classic rock so at 16 I found what is it one oh seven seven over in the Bay area that station. Yeah, and I just I that's it We're classic rock became my favorite rock. It still is my favorite rock. And then I found Rush and I absolutely loved Rush. Had no idea what the lyrics meant. I think a lot of people don't know what their lyrics mean because they're lyrics that somebody else in their songs. I was just like, like, pelt you with them. Yeah, but little did I know later on, I learned that rush and in particular, Neil Perth, were so pro individualism. They were very, if you listen, in fact, if you listen to the lyrics of some of their

songs, like the Trees or the whole album, the thing is what, was it 2112? The whole album was about individualism, which is like, be take care of yourself, it's kind of like libertarianism, type of deal. Pretty interesting. So he was this huge, free, freedom advocate, but he also happened to be one of the greatest drummers of all time. Didn't they get their big break from a radio station

that the guy kind of went out and just put a record on it was their record they thought it was led zeppelin working man yeah working man just played it was a long song yeah there was a back in those days dj's uh... they they would put on a long song when they had to go the bathroom because they couldn't pause or whatever so he just saw the longest album he had there, which was Working Man, put it on,

and then he started getting all these calls and everybody was like, who's the new album by Zeppelin? And he's like, it's not Zeppelin, it's Rush. But you know, Working Man was done before, and he'll join them a little bit later. Have you guys ever seen his solos on YouTube? No. Oh, dude.

I don't know how someone's hands can move that way. So fast. He just passed, right? Week two, he did. Cancer, yeah, brain cancer't know how someone's hands can move that way. So fast, right? Week two though. He did, yeah, yeah, yeah, brain cancer. How old? 67. Wow, young. Yeah, young.

But if you look up some of his solos on YouTube, it doesn't make sense how somebody can move shit that fast with that many drums going around them, you know, knowing what to do. It's just, yeah, that seems like a lost art. Like if you go to concerts, you just don't see the solos, like the drum solos, the guitar solos. Like, there's only a few bands out there can pull it off still. It's because you have to have...

You get real talent. Yeah, you gotta have hardcore... Musicianship. Yeah, I don't think that exists as much, does it? No, anymore. I totally don't see it. I mean, and I'm looking all the time for, you know, really good new music and, you know, it's out there. You just have to look

even harder these days as well. Did you know that I had this weekend that I haven't had forever that I forgot how amazing they are? Buffalo wings. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I just saw that meme for the guy who gets into bar fights still in like mid 40s or whatever like starter kit it's like a flexion shirt buffalo wings, bud light and something else that ever plays for us. It's the picture in that guy. It's totally like the sports guy right? Like that's the buffalo wing like you know like get the sassal of your face guy.

Haven't had him forever. We were eating dinner with my brother and my sister and and my sister, and we were, you know, I'm trying to go keto right now, just for the anti-inflammatory effects or whatever. So the warring appetizers, and the only thing that was like, that was okay was wings, haven't had them forever. Fucking destroyed that.

Now you're a spicy wing guy, you're just kind of like a mile. No, dude, I like them spicy, bro. Yeah, so they're so good. Speaking of wings, you know, butcher box, that's what their giveaway them spicy bro. Yeah, they're so good. Speaking of wings, you know butcher box, that's what their giveaway is this month. Yeah. Wings? Yes.

I think is it wings for life though? I mean look it up, is it like, yeah. Wings for life. Wings for life? Yeah. Oh wait, it says right there, three pounds of chicken wings in every box for the life of your subscription.

Yeah. Oh that's a great promotion. So I got one for you, because you just got introduced to the air fryer. Do those wings in the air fryer? What? Fire. So hold on a second.

What do you do? Just season them? Yeah, put them in. I don't do them. Katrina does them. Oh, okay. I'll ask her. Yeah, yeah.

Ask me like that. Now, would you guys ever do every scene that show Hot Ones? Yeah. I love that show by the way. So it's super clever. They start out with like a really mild kind of a sauce and then they work their way up. And meanwhile, he's interviewing the person there.

It's hilarious because you could just see, you know, this visceral reaction once they start getting up in the high heats. Oh, no, there's a place in San Jose. I think it's called Cliku. Yeah. And they have a... Oh, my Santa Clara University.

They have a challenge that if you can eat their wings, then you get, I don't remember what you get, and my brother tried it. My brother has a crazy tolerance for spicy food. And he said he had to sign a bunch of liability waivers and you know, on video, I'd say I agree to this or whatever. And he ate two. He said it was so hot that you just touched

the sauce to your lips and you fucking, I just tried to. No, that would wreck me for a couple days. It's like, I don't know if it'd be worth it. You know, like I'd probably get like halfway there. If I did that show, probably get like halfway. That's like a kick-bomb.

No, I ate Indian food once like that. I went with my buddy who was Indian and he went in the back and they had Indian cooks and he started speaking to them in their language or whatever. And he comes out and he's like, oh boy, it's gonna be good, you just wait. And he came out and the sauce was like paste. It was so full of whatever.

Yeah, I can't handle that. And I got asthma. So I had to, actually, no, Bullshin, actually got asthma, I had to go home and use my, and then handle all the spices. Yes, wow, because it was so fucking hot. Wow, that's crazy. Did you guys see Tesla on the ticker this morning? Yes, wow, so fucking hot. Wow, that's crazy.

Did you guys see Tesla on the ticker this morning? How they think? I'm sure I know this guy. Who's not crushing right now? This supposed to be a point stock truck is like all time highs, everything bro. Tesla, not that impressive. Tesla, right as of the...

That's the steroid bull. Recording of this podcast, when a 41 points, that 519, all time high, it's the highest, do you share prices ever had? I don't think it's worth that much. Do you watch the ticker that often? I look at it, you know I'm on that group thread with my cousins and all the investors?

So yeah, because they'll say something and then I'll go check. When I first started investing in stocks, I remember like crazy, right? Like you first put your couple bucks in there and it's like you're watching all the time. I stopped completely. Like if I make a decision that I'm gonna invest in something,

I put it in it and then I'm like, how do I invest? That's what I'm saying. Yeah, obviously if you're a day trader or you're making moves aggressively on it, which I don't do, like I said. Yeah, so if I buy into something, it's because I believe in the company

and I plan to be in it for a long time. And regardless of where it goes or the next 30 to 90 days, I'm not selling. So, and so I have to train myself to not watch. Well, otherwise you have this up and down rollercoaster feeling all the fucking time of the day. You have to detach, otherwise you're gonna suck as an investor.

That's what I do, I invest and I leave it. Now, I have my ex-breath on law. This way he does, basically for a living is he trades. That's how he makes most of his money. And he trades daily and he trades options. He says that's where the money is made. Options and futures. That's what my best for him.

Yeah, I wouldn't even fuck with that. Way too, I'm very conservative, put it in there, leave it or whatever. But yeah, Tesla, there's no way, do Tesla's worth way more than like GM forward, all those $519 a share right now. Wow. Because they, I told you guys, I've said this already, Tesla does not trade like a traditional car company.

They trade like a freaking startup tech company. You know what I mean? It's all like promises in, in dreams. It's, it's Elon. A little scary too. Speaking of promises in dreams, like have you seen this company that's coming out of DNA Nudge?

So this company is basically like, you're going to the grocery store and you wear this arm band that actually like scans the product and tells you like a green or a red light or an orange light like which one is best matched to your DNA profile? No way. For your food? Yeah, you do like a cotton swab or whatever

and then you send it off to this company and they kind of evaluate like what has the most beneficial type foods for you, they create this list. And so you go in and you have like an app and all that, but like it's crazy, like what they're promising with this thing. Stupid. And it's just like, I was getting into it,

I'm like, okay, this is legit, or like there's just so much with these startup companies that they have to kind of, you know, show that's just wizardry. Yeah. You know, it's like, we got all this working perfectly, and you know that like, there's just gonna be so many holes in that entire thing.

So here's why it's bullshit. Number one, the science is far from the point where it can actually do that. How can you pinpoint that? It's far from because. Well, it's ever changing, that's why too. And your genes can express themselves differently, they can change depending on your environment and context.

And not only that, but even if the genes were just stationary and stuck, we don't have enough information yet. Oh, look at that. To determine how it's going to work. Here's a second reason. Well, it looks like a lot of money behind this thing. Oh, yeah.

Well, it's for sure. But again, the science isn't supported. Plus, here's the second reason why it's bullshit. It completely takes out the most important part of nutrition, which is the psychological piece. So you could, the DNA thing can tell you all day long if it's good or bad, but if you don't like it, or it's an enjoyment thing, or you're stressed,

or anxious, you have different relationships at food. Yeah. You might as well, you know, it's total novelty. It sounds just like a Silicon Valley, like executive coming up with the idea for nutrition. Yeah, that's like it. Like, here's how we'll solve this problem. Well, I'll give you a good example.

So it reminds me actually of something that I wanted to bring up is foods can be bad or good, oftentimes depending on the context of whether or not you're in a high calorie diet or a low calorie diet. So for example, saturated fat, lots of, you know, bad press around it for a long time. In the context of a very high calorie diet, the odds that saturated fat is going to be bad for your far higher than if your calories were low.

Same thing with sugar. This is what fuels the macro-counters. You actually have studies showing that a diet that's high in sugar but low in calories doesn't have nearly the negative effects than a high sugar, high calorie diet. Context makes a big difference. So a DNA tracking watch, doesn't even take that into consideration.

Total, yeah, the science does not support it at this point. And then I'm just, I guess I'm just skeptical hip over here with people collecting your DNA. Like what, you know like oh And oh, we're gonna get rid of it. You know like we promise What happened to our buddy that was doing all that stuff what happened with neutrino. Yeah Yeah, I don't even talked them a long time to see how far like along they are in their process because what they were they were using Multiple different that was different. They were doing all liked them because they were adding a lot of different platforms out there,

like people that, like everything from HRV to, like, stool samples, like every different company, they were kind of like adding that in and they were getting APIs, they were adding together. They were putting all that information and then from there making it. Plus they had one hub for your own personal hub. And they were using those glucose monitors, the real-time glucose monitors. Yeah, that's very valuable information.

Right, you know. That's why I'm interested. You should reach out to them. Let's put them on. Yeah, we'll talk to them. Yeah, I'll hit them up. This quads brought to you by Organify. For those days you fall short on getting your organic veggies

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Are squats and lunges bad for your knees? That depends. Depends on a lot of it depends on your form and your technique and your muscle activation and control and stability. And some of it depends on your knees. Now, for most people, this is based on my own experience, I'd love to hear you guys' input.

I would say probably no joke, 90% of the time, squats and lunges bothered a client's knees. It had to do with muscle imbalances, forms, stability, control. One out of 10 times, it actually had to do with their knees themselves, that their knees had an issue. Well, this is where the box squats came in we talked about the other day you know this is a lot of times when you when you show like a client how to squat

uh... and there they don't know how to squat and they just try and mimic what what you did uh... the the first thing that you see is that they they bend knees, let their knees go travel really far forward until they can't travel anymore and that what stops it is the pain. They're not, no hip involvement. Yeah, very little bit of the hip hinging back and so they feel all the stress in their knees. So yeah, no, of course, you take that ankle mobility

to its end range of motion and then the stress runs right up into the patella and that's why they feel that. So that's where the box squat came out as a really good tool, not just for power lifters who are trying to increase their squat, but also for trainers trying to teach good mechanics to a client that feels squats in their knees. Also to that point, reverse lunges is what I teach for people that feel stress in their knees from lunging. Because when you lunge forward, the same thing happens.

You take a step forward. That forward travel. Yeah, that forward travel, they push, they have their weight traveling over the top of their knee, then their knee goes over their toe, and then again, it goes right to that in range of ankle mobility, and then it feels like also you feel the stress in the knee.

And you take somebody and you tell them to stand up right and then step back into a reverse lunge, you're going the opposite direction of that causes that and then also they have no pain in their knee. So it's not squatting or lunging is what causes you to have bad knees or you have bad knees because of those things or they're bad for your knees. It's that your mechanics are off and that we need to work on that. Even speaking to that 1% because I have had a client that didn't have ligaments, like, you know, tore their ACL, like, was completely devoid of,

you know, stability in that direction. But in terms of like everyday functional activities and doing things, like, like, tell me a situation where you're not gonna have to like, kind of squat down or get up from a chair or split your stance and, you know, and drop down a little bit pick things up like It is to to their benefit to Still try to pursue like certain ranges of motion so they can have you know an able lifestyle like and I think that

this whole You know red taping over a lot of exercises like that is such Such bad information to then push on to the patients. Yeah So you know squats and so there this was prevalent for a while. I don't know if you remember I was guilty of this But no, dude you guys are guilty. I was a guilty of avoiding lunges and squats to clients Oh, that bothers my knees. Okay, let's go over to leg extensions and fucking leg curls and that's what I was going to say. Like, let's say it was not that long ago that it was actually a widespread myth that lunges and squats were bad for you to actually hear trainers. Yes.

Say that. Now, here's the deal. Bad squats and bad lunges are bad for your knees are also bad for your hips and ankles and back. Good squats and good lunges are not just not bad for your knees. They're amazing for your knees. If you want knees that'll last you for the rest of your life with good mobility, stability and strength, you know, with much, much lower wrists of injury, do good squats and good lunges and do them forever. Well, because you train the muscles that are supporting those joints. Activating the muscles and getting them involved.

So it disperses the floor, so it doesn't just stop there. Well, you get an example. So I remember when I tore my MCL and ACL, and when I was doing rehab, they're like so blown away on the stability that I still had in my knee. And they said, that was due to all the muscle that I had built around.

I built so much muscle around my knees from training squads and all the major exercises that when I even lost my ligaments that I was still very supported. And we know that the knee is like floating and it's mostly getting its support from those ligaments. You lose those ligaments and you be all over the place. Unless you've done a really good job

of building a lot of muscle around there to help support and aid that. Well, we need to get away from the notion that the joints of the body are like a machine that you would have. For example, if you look at your shocks on your car or you look at a joint on a door, the more you move it, the more it wears down and eventually over time, if you keep doing that, it'll degrade. The body isn't like that.

The body adapts. It actually gets stronger through use. It regents, not only does it regenerate, but it adapts to become stronger. So if you want bad knees, which one would cause worse knees? Not moving at all, and just laying down, if that's it, or doing good squats, laying down.

Lying down would cause terrible degeneration of the joints. You would actually lose function within a very short period of time if you did that. So the human body's not like every day machines and moving parts on certain things. As you move things the right way, the body adapts and actually makes it stronger and able to move better and move more. You know, the example that I talked about at the beginning of the episode of Jane Fonda,

when you watch her on TV at 82 years old, squatting, walking, moving, good posture, it's not because she didn't squat and didn't lunge, it's not because she sat down and let her joints stay fresh and didn't move them. Because she moved them, the body adapted by making them stronger, producing more fluid in between the joints, strengthening cartilage, strengthening legaments, and the joints themselves. Movement is good for you. It's good movement that you need to focus on. So if your hurt and knees hurt you from doing squats and lunges, it's probably not because you have bad knees,

it's probably because you can't squat and lunge properly. But a good regression for trainers that are listening to this for clients that don't have the mechanics that are still working on, that's where the box squat and the reverse lunge, I think are very valuable. So, you know, day one, you're trying to teach those movements, clients, ah, my knees, I can't do those.

Okay, we'll try a reverse trying to teach those movements, clients, ah, my knees, all I can't do those. Okay, we'll try a reverse lunge, try a box squat. And you should, I mean, most of those people are getting up and down from a toilet, they're getting up and down from their car, they're getting up from a chair at dinner table, like, so they can squat, you know what I'm saying? They can go down.

The problem is when you ask them to do it in the gym setting, their mechanics are awful, and one of the things that will help them with their squatting will be the box squat, something that will help them with their lunging is a reverse lunges that have a forward lunge. Next question is from Chrissy Cobb. Is squatting on a Smith machine still beneficial if your gym doesn't have a free weight squat rack? Yeah, you know, we make a lot of fun of the Smith machine, but the reality is it does have some value,

especially if you don't have access to a squat rack where you can take a barbell off a rack and do exercises. So nothing inherently wrong with a squat machine. It's just not as good as a free weight version of the exercise. But here's what I'll say about it. I don't like squats on a Smith machine. It doesn't work well with squats because the bar travels on a fixed path.

It ends up looking like you're doing a squat on a sled with your feet in front of your body, which is that's okay too. I'll say this, if you can use a Smith machine, do stationary lunges. Stationary lunges on a Smith machine, far better than squats on a Smith machine. What do you guys think? Yeah, I mean, I could see the lunge argument with that

because you could create like a more vertical path and a lunge sort of, you know, it bodes a little bit more well with that direction. But I honestly think like a hack squat machine or like some other kind of machine I think would bring more value. Sure. Then even, you know, a Smith machine squat. I just don't, I feel like it almost creates worse patterns when you go then to create,

when you get to like an actual squat rack where you're doing free, free motion like type movements with that. Well, this is an area that I know that we have our peers in our space that there's quite a few, that are friends of ours that disagree with us in this. And that's just, I mean, that's just personal preference. I too wouldn't coach on it. I just think there's, and here's the thing, it's not that I think it's so bad and that I think that somebody can't use it and have great benefits. It's that as a trainer, I can think of a lot of other things that I can do instead of

it. Like, I would do a dumbbell goblet squad. I would do a Bulgarian split stance squat with dumbbells. You're a good luck trying to do those with 80 pound dumbbells. You're so strong and try drawing doing some Bulgarian split squat with holding some heavy dumbbells and you want to see your legs explode and you want to see incredible benefit. I mean, do something like that or lunges. There's a lot of things that you can do, single or do a single leg body weight squat.

I mean, there's a lot of things that I can do. If I have a client, I'm trying to develop their legs that if I don't have a traditional barbell squat rack that I can do, I mean, and give them great results and never have to touch the Smith machine. So that's just no carryover. You know, like from that specific machine, like the Smith machine, you get good at the Smith machine. Right, and to your point,

like I would totally prefer to do anything with the dumbbells because you have to stabilize. You have to, you know, your body has to work all harmoniously to be able to pull off those movements where this is like, you're just sliding on a track and it's all doing it for you. Well, and a great, okay, to your point to carry over, right? Would somebody who squats, let's say, 275 on a Smith machine, would they get more carryover to a barbell squat

from that or being able to do holding, okay, 80 pound dumbbells doing Bulgarian split squat? I'll tell you right now, the person doing the Bulgarian split squat holding the 80 pound dumbbells will be better at squatting with a barbell on their back than the person who was in a Smith machine. So, and that's just where it's at for me.

It's not that I think it's so bad, it's, oh, you can't do it. It's just, it wasn't designed for lower body. Okay, if you know the history of the machine, it was designed for upper body exercises. So it wasn't designed for that in the first place. Have people manipulated it to use it for lower body? Sure, can it work for them? Did it work well for some?

Sure, okay. As a trainer and a coach for me, the risk versus reward, they carry over to a regular barbell squat. I have other things in my back pocket that I would use that I think would be far more valuable for the client. And so I would do things like that. That's where I stand on it. I don't, but I mean, I'm not so hard on like,

it's the worst thing ever for you. It's like, no, I mean, I know I can get under there and do it and not hurt myself. Yeah, well, it's funny because it's, machines have the, you know, there's a belief that machines are lower risk of injury, but some machines actually have a high risk of injury. Smith machine squats, I'd say is one of them.

And the reason is because you're fixed on a track, so you're going to cause, you can potentially, depending on how you move, cause yourself back problems. Leg press is another one. People think leg press is super safe for the low back because you're laying down on your back or whatever. But I've seen more people hurt their low back from doing a leg press than from doing squats because the bottom causes your pelvis to rotate up and then your press off. And I've seen people actually hurt themselves

really bad on a leg press. I'll give you some exercises on the Smith machine that I'll do occasionally. And when I say occasionally, I mean, rarely. But these are the exercises. If I do use a Smith machine, I'll do, I like upright rows on it. I get a really good pump from using it.

I do it with a technique that's really good. Sometimes I'll even try barbell rows. It feels more like a machine row when I'm on it. I get a really good pump from using it. I do it with a technique that's really good. Sometimes I'll even try barbell rows. It feels more like a machine row when I'm on there. And then sometimes I'll do like a behind the neck press or an incline chest press. Oh, I love it for an incline press or a chest press or a shoulder press.

I love it for the end. And especially when I'm doing drop sets or strips sets. Yes, that's when it's really good. I mean, it's when I'm by myself, and I'm one, because I always train by myself and I haven't done a drop set or a strip set in a long time and I'm like, I'm gonna hit my chest like that

or I'm gonna hit my shoulders like that. Excellent tool. I mean, it's quick, I can get up real quick and because I'm training to failure because I'm doing a drop set or a strip set, I've got the safety bars, I can roll my wrist real quick and lock it out. I'm not worried about dumping the weight all over the place and looking like a fool. So yeah, there's value in it.

I don't think it's a lower body though, not that much. Push ups and body weight rules. That's all I got. Sorry. Nope. Next question is from Oli Fuller 88. Apart from the hand position, how are the setup and execution of a closed grip bench press and a standard bench press different?

Yeah, the closed grip bench press, I feel like is disappearing. I almost never see anybody do it and that's too bad because, oh, what a great exercise for the triceps, shoulders, even the chest, but definitely different than a standard bench press. I mean, for me, and I know you, you lean towards dips, but nothing put more mass on my triceps than close grip bench press.

That blew my arms up. I, and I didn't do it for years. It was like one of those things that when I was younger kid, I throw it in there occasionally. And honestly, back then, I think as a kid, I didn't even know why we were doing it. It was just different. Oh, this is harder to try close grip, you know? And I think back then, I think as a kid I didn't even know why we were doing it. It was just different. This is harder to try close grip.

I think back then I even thought it was like for your chest. Where now it's like close grip for your, if you do it correctly. There's a technique to it, right? So you're not trying to bench like you would normally chest bench press. You're trying to tuck your elbows in by your side because you want your triceps to carry most of the load. But for your triceps, I think it's one of the best compound lifts you could possibly do. I am going to comment on the hand position because that's actually the most important

thing. Some people get confused and think that close grip wrench press is their hands are really close together. That's a recipe for a wrist injury. That type of lateral flexion of the wrist that's required for that close of a bench press can cause people a lot of problems. A good close grip bench press for most people is right around shoulders with shoulders or slightly closer to your elbows.

That's why elbows can basically slide into your ribs. That's it. Yeah, you get nice and low there. And yeah, at that point, your elbows bend and extend and you really feel out in the triceps. Well, there's no reason to go any closer than that because the whole idea of going close grip is to bring the elbows in. Because if you flare the elbows all the way out wide and you're in really close, it's not as valuable as you've been able to tuck your, tucking your elbows in, in line. So there's no reason to go any closer and shoulder with the point. And then here's the other

mistake I see people making with a closed grip because they tuck their elbows in, they bring the bar too low on their body and then it becomes a front belt press. The bar still needs to come around nipple line like you would with a traditional bench press because and that's what gives you the elbow bend that's required for triceps. But I have seen people, and I look at the closed grip and then because their elbows are in, now they're bringing the bar down to their like their midsection and that's required for triceps. But I have seen people, and I'll look at the close grip, and then because their elbows are in, now they'll bring the bar down to their midsection, and that's not so great for triceps, you're just gonna get more front-delta.

I love close grip. It's programmed in a lot of our maps programs. I don't see people doing this lift. Yeah, we throw the incline bench in there, which is also one of my favorites to do with a close grip bench. It just feels more natural from incline position. No, I love it. Next question is from Stay at Homestone.

Can you explain neck carbs? Is this even important to consider if you count your macros? No, I hate that. I do too. That is such a marketing. It is. So the bars and shakes can make claims. So was such a marketing. It is. Yeah. So the bars and shakes can make claims.

So they can say they're low carb. Yeah. Total bullshit. So net carbs, the way that they sell it, basically, are carbs that are not fiber. Okay. So fiber carbs, according to them, don't count. The only ones that count are non-fibrous ones, especially sugar, those are the ones that count because fiber carbs have a less of an impact on insulin

Or maybe you don't utilize them out on whatever their argument was was total bullshit if it has calories accounts That's a bottom line. Yeah, and in net carbs also have calories are still carbohydrates It's totally and you know when this got real popular this got real popular when low carb dieting hit the mainstream. When low carb dieting was atkins, was really when it started taking off. That was in the, I wanna say the late 90s, early 2000s, and then later on with keto dieting, low carb dieting became all the rage

and food manufacturers are trying to find out ways to sell more products to these low carb dieters, but they couldn't put tons of carbs in their products. How do I make it palatable, but also keep it so that it's low-carb. And so they came up with this bullshit theory of, oh, the net carbs are only three and then you read the thing, it's just 20 carbs. Now to that point, I think the one thing for people to understand too, those that, I mean, Fibris carbs are like from vegetables and fruit are better carbs for you, right?

As far as like metabolism-wise digestion goes. So they are better for you, but the idea of subtracting them out, it's like, I've never in my life one done it myself too, had any clients do it. I just don't see any value in it. Carbs and calories is all you, if you're counting calories, you're tracking

your proteins, fats and carbs, that's enough. That's plenty of information for the average person to really start to hone in on their diet and how they should be eating. They just overcomplicate it by subtracting out the fiber from it to try and, it's just silly. It's so they could sell bars and it just tracks you. Yeah, so that way they can make your bars and shakes taste a little bit better

without you feeling the guilt. Oh, dude, what company was it? Was it pure protein bars that may, they claimed to have zero grams of sugar and it was because they had sugar alcohols in there and they're like, well, that doesn't have the same thing. It doesn't count. Yeah. Actually, it does. Sneaky. It does still count. Actually, it does. Sneaky.

It does still count. It's 100% to sell more product because if I'm making a low-carb product and in order to call something low-carb, it needs to be lower than, let's say, 10 grams of carbohydrates or 8 grams of carbohydrates, but I want it to taste good. I'm going to use carbs that I can count, that I can consider to be not, doesn't count. These aren't net carbs.

The oldest trick in the book, just reclassify it. It's totally 100%. No, definitely count all carbs. If you're, and they all count. Now, like Adam said, fiber, is that healthy for you? Are all carbs created equal? Of course not, just like all proteins, all fats, are not created equal.

But the notion that only net carbs count, created equal of course not, just like all proteins, all fats are not created equal. But the notion that only net carbs count, don't worry about the other ones, they don't count in the body, is total boulder dash, doesn't mean shit. It's a great reference. And with that, go to mindpumpfree.com and download our guides and resources. They're all totally free. You can also find all of us on Instagram. You can find Adam at Mind Pump Atom, Justin at Mind Pump Justin, and you can find me at

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