Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1216: How to Use Mini-cuts & Mini-bulks to Maximize Gains, the Benefits of Carb Cycling, When to Deload & More

Episode Date: January 29, 2020

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about how often to deload, mini-bulks and mini-cuts, the benefits of carb-cycling and if it may cause a bad relationship with food, and whether foam rolling actually works. Mind Pump on the supplements/prohormones they took in the past, the ‘false truth’ surrounding them, the great hustle & MORE. (4:49) Opinion: Mind Pump on California passing Assembly Bill 5. (16:13) Mind Pump on Donald Cerrone’s ass beating and Conor McGregor’s brilliance. (22:18) The myth that war boosts the economy. (28:27)  Interesting news on the Tik Tok front. (32:06) China quarantine and the ‘Coronavirus’. (33:10) The pros and cons of police facial recognition technology. (34:45) Food quality is worth paying the price. (41:03) A leader of the biggest US organic food fraud gets a 10-year jail term. (45:03) Top YouTube earner of 2019. (47:13) #Quah question #1 – Do you guys recommend deload weeks in between phases of your programs? If so, how often and what would you recommend they look like? (52:31) #Quah question #2 – What are your thoughts on mini-bulks and mini-cuts? (1:00:32) #Quah question #3 – Are there any benefits to carb-cycling or can it cause a bad relationship with food? (1:05:13) #Quah question #4 – Does foam rolling actually work? What’s the science behind it? Is it better to have a hard or a soft foam roller? (1:11:06) Related Links/Products Mentioned January Promotion: MAPS HIIT ½ off! **Code “HIIT50” at checkout** Assembly Bill 5 threatens small businesses across California How Conor McGregor plans to overtake Jameson as the best-selling Irish whiskey in the US How an Economy Grows and Why It Crashes - Book by Peter Schiff US Army bans soldiers from using TikTok Strengthening coronavirus surges across China as authorities mobilize response; third case confirmed in U.S. London police to deploy facial recognition cameras across the city How the Police Use Facial Recognition, and Where It Falls Short Scientists Have Invented a Mind-Reading Machine That Visualises Your Thoughts Visit Magic Spoon for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Leader of Largest US Organic Food Fraud Gets 10-Year Term Visit Butcher Box for this month’s exclusive Mind Pump offer! The Highest-Paid YouTube Stars of 2019: The Kids Are Killing It Mind Pump Episode 887: The Fastest Growing Sport in the World with NRG Esport Co-Founder Andy Miller MAPS Fitness Products – Mind Pump Benefits Of A Deload Week & When To Deload For Recovery And Gains – Mind Pump Carb Cycling: A Good Way To Lose Fat? - Mind Pump Blog The Science of Carb Cycling: How It Works and How to Do It Right (2020) How To Foam Roll PROPERLY (AVOID THESE MISTAKES) | MIND PUMP Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Donald Cerrone (@cowboycerrone)  Instagram  Conor McGregor Official (@thenotoriousmma)  Instagram Layne Norton, PhD (@biolayne)  Instagram

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this episode of Mind Pump, we answer fitness questions, and we also have a lot of fun. In the introductory portion of this episode, we talk about current events, news articles, scientific studies, and we mention our sponsors. Here's what we did in this episode. We start out by talking about supplements and pro hormones.

We go down memory lane, talk about all the times. We took crazy supplements. That's messed up for you. That promised great results and probably shortened our lifespans. Then we talked about Assembly Bill 5 in California, California doing a great job destroying good businesses. Can we regulate everything?

Please. Then we talked about the fight between Donald Seroni and... Conor McGregor. Conor McGregor, thank you very much. That was a great fight. He got his face busted by a shoulder, which is kind of cool. Then I talked about the myth that war boosts the economy,

not true. We talk about TikTok and how military personnel told not to use it because maybe China's spying on you guys. China's spying. That reminded me that to talk about an article that talked about the first city in China that's quarantined to try to prevent the spread of the coronavirus. Adam talked about police facial recognition technology,

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Then we got into the fitness questions. Lots of hate there. The first question was, do we recommend DeLoad Weeks? What's the deal with DeLoad Weeks? So we talk all about like how to DeLoad what that looks like, why you would need to do a deal out week. The next question, this person wants to know what our thoughts are on many bulks and many cuts. So bulking is when you're eating it away to build muscle, cutting is when you're eating it away to

burn body fat and now do it mini. And we're talking about doing it for short of periods of time for better results. We explain it in that part of the episode. The next question, this person wants to know if there's any benefits to carb cycling, so explain what carb cycling in and how it is, excuse me, and how that can help you or not help you. And the final question, this person wants to know what we think about foam rolling. Does it work?

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and we'll get that shirt right out to you. What is that, Sal? What? The thing with the straw in it looks like a fucking steroid bottle. It's, it is steroids. Oh, cool. I'm on the, I'm on the, I'm on the roads now. They're obviously not working very well.

Well, I just started. On the socks. I just started. You imagine how strong I'll be when I'm on the gear? Yeah, it's, it's, you know what that is? Let's run a cycle. Imagine. Oh, no, I'm gonna run some.

Imagine. Let's go, dude. Let's get gorilla. Let's get gorilla strong. No, I'm comfortable with my, with my chimp strength in scene. I don't need the gorilla strength. That's, you know, that's red pan X,

Jin-Sing. You need to take it in a fucking ample like that? It's ampule. It's a old school. So this company's been around forever. It's ampule. It's an old school. So this company's been around forever. There's no spawn, there's no affiliation by the way. So there's no discount code. Anyway.

This company is a real heroic vial of gin-sing. No, man. No, they make like these little liquid vials of gin-sing extract and red panics gin-sing is the real, that's like the gin-sing. because they're Siberian ginseng, but it's not from the ginseng family. It still has value, Siberian ginseng still has value, but it's different.

Red panicked ginseng is the one that's been studied forever. It's more of a Chinese medicine would say a yang or yang energy, you know, so it's more male energy. Yeah. A little bit stimulating, it's good for sperm motility, testosterone, can raise testosterone to the end of the low testosterone. Yeah, it makes it move better.

Your sperms are more mobile. It's like tails. Like flip a little bit faster. Like they did maps Prime Pro. You know what I mean? You just get around the cracks and stuff better. But anyway, it comes in like this little glass bottle that I remember my dad used to have these back in the day

when I was first started working out. So he had like a box of them. And when I was 14, I thought supplements were the secret. I thought for sure, if you take supplements, oh yeah. What's how they were marketed? You're gonna get jacked. I don't know, I've never told this story before.

So my dad had an old protein powder. He never took, he just bought it once and never took it. And it had a picture, it had a picture of weeder on it. Remember the one with weeder was big ass forearm. He's all jacked. He's got the beard, right? Remember that. Yeah, it was called a handle bar mustache. Yeah, it was called a weeder's muscle builder. That was a day with a protein powder. And then next to it was a box of these ampules. And I remember when I was 14, I'm like, he's not using this anymore and I snuck over there, cracked open a couple of ampules, drank them,

took a little protein powder, worked out. I was like, for sure, I'm gonna be jacked. Yeah, for sure. Like how many days did it take to realize it's not doing sure? Yeah, so this is the beginning of the addiction that I've struggled with. Now he is, where're in the queue. When was your drag?

And when would you say you were peaking out? I was about 20, peaking like how? Like the amount of stuff you were trying to do. Oh my God, bro. Yeah. How you wanna know? I peaked out like early 24 or 5 in the days,

probably 21 to 23 as I peaked out. Dude. I, it was when we had that member when we had that long to the peak last because that's why I picked up my that's it two years. Cause I had a peak that last. Well, maybe a few, right? Like I mean, somewhere between two and four years

probably when I was like, you know, I had it like everything under the sun. Oh, yeah, like, you know, 12 bottles of things that I was trying to summer that when I was playing football. I was like, this is the summer. You know, that I'm just getting as big and jacked as I possibly ever could. So I had to like try every single supplement

that was like legal at the time and like put, you know, all that together and try, didn't even like focus more on my workouts. Just thought that was gonna do it. And it did not, it got me fatter. So, it's so annoying. I bought this stack from, well, first I bought Cybergenics. I did that once.

You guys remember that? It was like a box and it had, the ads were a picture of a fat dude that got really ridiculously shredded. So, I was like, of course this is going to work. Look at this fat guy, he got jacked in 30 days. Yeah, obviously. And it cost 170 bucks. That was the other thing I thought.

Of course it's going to work. It costs a shit ton of money. They would. Yeah, so I'm charged as much. I'm otherwise. I'm 15 years old. I am working washing dishes at a pizza place. And so I'm getting paid.

I'm getting paid cash back then. Wow. So, you know, the guy's gonna give me cash or whatever. So in order to buy it, I had to get a money order to send in the mail over to them. So I went out through all this, I saved my money, and got this box of supplements, and it was five bottles of garbage, did nothing for me.

So then later on, I'm like, okay, that didn't work, but this other one's gonna work. And it was EAS, I think it was EAS, early, early EAS, and they had a stack where it was glutamine, vanitol sulfate, and something else. Basically nothing, didn't do shit for me. And then later on, I found crating. And then that sparked more like,

oh, crating works, everything else must work too. You know, if you're a listener, you have to be wondering too, like, wait a second, I thought these guys were pretty smart guys. They were, how are they taking these supplements and they not working in this? We learned through experience. Well, we're always smart.

Mistakes. Not only that, but there is a, there's like a false truth of taking them, that happens also, right? I don't know if that's the term, we're gonna use that term for now. Because I can't think of a better one. All right, false truth.

Yeah, it's the determined. Yeah, so. But what happens is- So oxymoron. You don't put this together totally. I at least I didn't put this together till way later, is probably because you do see some change. You do see some results.

But what you start to piece together is that when you're spinning as a kid, when you spend all of your money that you made for the month or whatever on these pills, you bet your ass I didn't miss a workout. You know what I'm saying? I was consistent. I was doing everything I could because I was spending that money and I wanted to work and so I don't want to waste my money. So you see some changing gains, but it's probably more so because I was consistent with my

lifting and my diet and doing those things more than anything else and not the actual supplements. So I think you fall into this false truth or whatever for years of trying different things and going like Oh that worked more than this and really it was what it was because it does affect your behavior some level for the positive Well, I even remember when I finally did put that together I still was taking supplements and I would justify it by that I'd say well at the end of the day I know that when I spend money on this I'm gonna be more consistent. I don't want to waste my the end of the day, I know that when I spend money on this, I'm going to be more consistent. I don't want to waste my money. So it's working in a sense.

You're like more focused. I remember when they had designer steroids over the counter. They were, and I said, they were called pro hormones. But they were not pro hormones. They were active. They were banned steroids. They were active steroids, but they continued. It was like a gray market, like they slipped through regulation because the way that steroids were regulated back then, you could alter the chemical by a little bit and then it wasn't, by like one molecule. It wasn't explicitly banned.

They grow a tail, but you know, you'll get jacked. And you know how they found these drugs? They would go through old discarded pharmaceutical company drugs that didn't pass FDA regulation. And they'd say, oh, let's make this one. But anyway, I remember buying the first one. It was a super draw, was the name of it. And I remember taking that, and then that worked.

I remember taking that, and I was like, whoa, what is going on here? Going off was not fun. Yeah, I took a trend one. I forgot what that and I was like, whoa, what is going on here? Yeah. Going off was not fun. Yeah, I took a trend one. I forgot what it was called though. It was a, it was definitely like taking trend and it was an over the counters supplement. And I remember, you know, as a kid, and I don't know if you remember this or not, but I mean, we were savvy to this hustle, you know, that that was the supplement game was, get something, you sell it, kids go use it,

they definitely feel it, because it's a fucking hormone that they're taking, they end up seeing result, people come back, because then it catches wind, they ban it, but then you go buy it under the counter, right, all the, all the, all the, then you're getting rid of your stock. Yeah, all the, all exactly, all the stores still carried it, but it was like a hush, hush thing.

And then they normally raised the price on it. You didn't care because you knew it worked. That's why I keep it there. It's all the kids come back with that. And because it got banned and you're a kid, you definitely want it. Oh, you're buying 10 bottles. Yeah, because you know it's real.

Yeah, I'm gonna use this forever. Yeah, that, I mean, they did that forever. They did. I got terrible side effects from a couple of them. And as I got older and researched the actual chemicals that were in there, I mean, they did that forever. But they did. I got terrible side effects from a couple of them. And as I got older and researched the actual chemicals that were in there, I realized these are worse than the actual and these are worse than the black market steroids. Some of these chemicals are not great.

I wonder if they lost an insane amount of profits because of that, because that was the hustle, right? Was to get all those, like, because they were the most expensive thing you could buy in the store was when they kept kind of under the counter. Oh, yeah, a lot of those shops. It was quick. They were making a quick million.

Oh, you're, you're, you know, neutral shops and max muscles. Those are all going under, man. Yeah, it's tough to, especially with Amazon today, not to mention that the big hustle and those, the other hustle is you carry products that are most popular right now, right? So you look at like what are the top 20 supplements that are sold. You carry those products in your store, but you make crap margins because it's somebody else's stuff.

Then what you do is you, as a store, you make your own line, because it's relatively cheap to make all those products. Make it look the same or whatever. Right, and you make the macros pretty similar to the back of whatever the other the other the expensive someone's are and then you employ people and you teach them that hey when people come in and they look they want the myelplex whatever they want the great cell tech or this that you push the the the neutral shot brand or you push the max muscle brand because it wanted we're going to sell it for cheaper to we're going to make way more money off of

it. And that's how they And that's how they do that. Dude, I went so far as to, I actually would learn about the chemistry of certain compounds and start to try to figure out how to combine them, which we're, I am not a scientist or a chemist, so the results for you always wanted to be. Yeah, no, I just wanted to just figure,

I thought I would do that. I thought I was gonna be like an Alchem choice wanted to be. Yeah, no, I just wanted to just figure, I thought I would, I thought I was gonna be like an alchemist of the system, yeah. Yeah, like I was like, like, what's that scientist and spider man that becomes a lizard, you know, like I'm in the back, oh fuck, oh, I'm monster. And to disasterous results often,

I remember combining different stimulants because this one's a beta, you know, two antagonists and this one, you know, helps. I combine all these stimulants together and I remember a beta, you know, two antagonists and this one, you know, helps. I combine all these stimulants together and I remember one day, I had a four hour workout and I was sweating out of my eyeballs and I remember coming home and laying on my bed, I was like 17 maybe and I was laying on my bed and my heart was to to to to to to to to to to to to to

and I remember thinking like this is how I'm gonna go. Like that's it. That sucks, you know what's it? So you actually would buy all these individually and then concoct them together. Like what was the craziest combination you put together? Well, I combined, don't do this. This is a terrible combination.

A Siedra aspirin. I bought, so I did a Fedra aspirin and caffeine before they were selling it together because I figured out that they, how they could work together. Then I throw some, some, Yo-Himba, Yo-Himba in there. Jesus.

And then I throw in some sinifrin. And that, it was just, it was just a terrible, yeah. We did it for the audience, so we did all of this for you guys. Yes. We knew one day. I survived so I could teach you, just barely made it through. That's why God didn't take me Yeah, I'll let you live so you need to be in pass the song healthy other kids you share the story a terrible transition

But I wanted to ask you the other day Especially you saw because you always have an opinion with this stuff. Oh great Did you see the law that California passed the assembly five? Did you see what that was? No, what is it? So let me guess. It's a stupid law. Of course it is. Right. Well, I mean, is it though? I mean, there's going to be obviously there's a pass. It's against the law to be mean.

It passed. We solved it. Obviously, there's a good portion of California, the things that's a good idea. Man, that doesn't always do. Yeah, sometimes it just means all the fools are on the same side, right? Yeah, so it's basically it's going to make, it's really coming after Uber and DoorDash and all these companies.

And it's going to force them to recognize all the people that are doing Uber or doing DoorDash as employees. Oh, not contract. Yep. Stupid. Terrible. Terrible. The benefits of Uber and do that.

The reason why there's such successful companies and have created so many opportunities for people is because they don't have to go through all that red tape. Right, because what's gonna happen now is the services are gonna become far more expensive. It's gonna be harder to just employ yourself. A lot of people who do Uber like that, the people that I talk to who do Uber love the fact

that they could just turn it on whenever they want, do their job whenever they want, that it's very easy, they can go, you know, come in and out. It's a, that gig economy added so many jobs for so many people. And this is a great example of a law with a good intention, but is not based on a... Is it really a good intention?

I don't think it's a good intention. I think they present it to the population as good intentions that we're, oh, we're looking out for you guys to get benefits and protect you and blah, blah, blah, blah, or the safety of the people that are taking Uber, I think they present it like that, but it's really to stay full there, girl. Right, and I wouldn't be surprised

if there were lobbies on the other side that were companies like taxi companies or hotel companies or whatever, trying to use government, which is the favorite tactic of big business. Did you guys see the, you guys have to go buy this, who, either one of you guys ever go by the prune yard? Yeah.

Okay, the shell station, okay, the shell state, I just went by there, you know, cause I gave my hair cut over there. So I just went by there two days ago, never seen this before. I pull up to the shell station real quick. I was actually going in there to look for like a rock star or something.

I pull up and next on the property of the gas station is this trailer and it's a completely, it has a little ramp that goes up it and it's a all glass sliding windows and it's like a giant vending machine that you walk into but you can only walk in if you swipe your card and you pay for the stuff that's in it and it's a little store.

Oh, what? Never seen this before. What the hell? So you don't need anybody operating nobody's operating. Oh, that's brilliant. Right. Oh, that's very smart. Yes Oh, very interesting. I didn't use it I should have because so I could have talked about it a little bit better But I mean I kind of looked at it and trying to figure out how. I'm sure California will pass a lot of that. You required to have two employees. You just have somebody manning it. Yeah, working inside.

But have you guys seen anything like this before? No, I haven't. No, it's literally like a, and it has all the like most popular things that you probably drive through at midnight to want to get it from a gas station that might be close. So you just swipe your car, walk in, get what you want. Yes, get out.

Oh, that's very smart. Yeah, and it's all like, you can tell. It's got cameras everywhere. So it's being, it's being right. It's being modern. Yeah, and it's all good. You could tell it's got cameras everywhere. So it's being it's being right It's being modern. So somebody tries to smash you know through and break right or probably if you try and take what you didn't pay for Because that's the part that was kind of confusing to me. It's like it's all locked up But then there has this big digital keypad and you just maybe release the thing you paid for It didn't if I, did you go inside?

No, I did, but it's all glass. I was looking all inside. Yeah, wow. And I don't, and that's the part that I couldn't figure out because it isn't, it didn't have it like locked up. It's once you're in there, it looks like you could grab whatever you want it. That's great.

But it's also, again, it's monitored. So maybe it's, they're testing it to see, well, you know, well, people only grab what they pay for. Just a little pop up trailers like that. I'm sure, I'm sure they're safeguards to prevent, you, people only grab what they pay for. Just a little pop-up trailers like that. I'm sure they're safeguards to prevent, you know, a theft or whatever. I'm sure. Well, I mean, yeah, the safeguards I would assume

is the cameras that are all on it. And I think like, okay, are you really gonna, all the items in there can't be over $3. You know what I'm saying? So they're probably not risking a lot for somebody who's gonna go in there and like, what are you gonna do? You know, still $30 worth of chips to get, So they're probably not risking a lot for somebody who's gonna go in there and like what are you gonna do is you know still

$30 worth. Yeah, $30 worth of chips to get to get to go to jail You know what I'm saying like you got to be a pretty neat those Doritos. I don't know man 13-year-old me would have been like scoop these chips up You lie you didn't you when we did the thing the other day you didn't still anything I thought you had stolen something. I think I stole beads once Beats for my jacket. Remember when we used to wear parkas back in the day and you put beads on the, you put beads on the, bro, I dropped it.

I forgot. My buddy, do you remember that? I remember that. Yeah, like the parkas. Yeah, yeah. I think that's what I stole once. When we were up in Tahoe last year,

sorry for the company I stole from. My buddy went up and saw his dad, and you know, I wish my parents still had all this stuff. His dad still has his parka from when he was in seventh grade or whatever. So he's rocking the old starter. 49th of par again. The ones that you're literally talking about, they used to put the pizza stuff. Yes, because that'd be in fashion right now.

No, it is. It's so cool. I told him I was like, man, if I had mine, I'd still rock it right now. I had the one with the big 49er thing on the back. It was black. So the 49er thing was red. It was black. And then my beads were, they were red, red, golden white,

I think, or red, yeah, red and white. I don't remember, golden white, it was something like that. And it was all the way down the strings. And I stole them. Like an asshole. Thanks for reminding me. You were a little bit fashionable back then. A little bit.

Yeah. But maybe you were off by a decade or so. He's like, this was like a few years ago. Yeah. That was last week. Yeah. I stole the beads last week. Yeah, that was cool.

And sixth grade. Let's see. Where are you at? Oh, dude. Did you guys, okay, so I know you guys watched the fight with Seroni and... Bro. Can I just...

Can I just tell you, okay, that that fight was what 30 or 45 seconds? I did not get I would I never would have guessed that would have looked like he went through five rounds of an Aspity his face was jack well, so I read about his injuries ready for this. Oh shit So he's been he got his face got jacked up so bad that they told him he can't fight for six months Whoa, he got a broken nose and a fractured orbital bone. Oh wow. From those shoulders, like, I mean, that had to contribute to it. Then he ate a kick though, remember?

A kick, yeah. A knee and then a kick. Oh, yeah, look at that. Man. He looks like, I can't see anything. Yes. Dude, from a 30-second fight, you got your ass beat.

Yeah, well, I mean, you know, like McGregor came in hot. McGregor's, he proves to be a, like a master, what's the word, strategist? Yes, he spends a lot, I think people don't give him enough credit for how much he really studies. I remember when he,

I think it's hilarious to people that talk shit and say he's terrible. There's a lot so stupid. There's a big group of people that think shit and say he's terrible. There's a lot so stupid There's a big group of people that think he's he's just he's only taking the fights that he can win and he's this He gets lucky and he's Bob all bro. Dude. He's winning in three different weight classes You name me another fighter that's been able to do that. No, he's he's a good fighter. I remember when he fought Jose Aldo and and he hit him with that shot that it's all strategy. You know every fight he comes with something different that you just I mean

who saw those shoulders coming. Yeah. I don't even see that. Something new. I've never seen somebody break a nose with their shoulder like that. You know, it's funny. It's a damn impressive performance. A lot of the moves that you see in MMA that don't seem that serious are actually very serious. You ever watch them to foot stomp? Yes. Oh, I know, you know that hurts so much. Okay, so I mean, have you ever stopped on someone's foot

or had your foot stomp? Bro, that sucks. It's terrible. So I mean, I used to, of course, I trained judo and jiu jitsu, so we were barefoot. And if someone stepped on the top of your foot, just on accident, I'm even stomping on it. That shit hurt.

You hit someone with the heel on the top of the foot. Yeah, yeah. And then you can't put as much pressure. That's the other thing, too. You get those like leg kicks, those inside leg kicks, like for your front foot. Like now it's like, obviously you got to kind of like readjust your balance and then you're fucked.

I don't know how those guys, have you guys ever gotten kicked by a tie fighter? Yeah, yeah, I got kicked in that, dude. And then it's sore for days, dude. Oh, that hurts I don't understand how they don't go down the first time dude if they go full force like man Yeah, your legs will buckle so I held pads for a pro

Female tie fighter so she wasn't even a guy. It was a girl. Yeah, she was like a hundred and fifty pound female And I held the pad and I was like wow if, if that hit me, I would be dead. Yeah, yeah. No, it's a lot of force you can generate if you get really good at it. Tremendous. I just can't believe he looks like he went through five rounds of war. Yeah. Well, all with the shoulder shot, which was obviously he studied and implemented specifically

because that's not like a move that he does. No, and every one of his shots like we're landing It was very like pinpoint accuracy like that's the thing It's like you got a you got to give credit where credits do like he put on a great performance He's a calm. He's a brilliant promoter and a obviously amazing Strategies and fighting what a what a crazy combination to make him one of the highest paid Yeah, you know fighters of all time just because you so he's good combination to make him one of the highest paid, you know, fighters of all time.

Just because he's so he's good, but he makes you want to watch his fight, which that's the thing too. If you're an athlete, especially if you're a fighter, a big winning, yes, winning is important, but so is promoting yourself and making people want to come up to mind. Did any of you guys read up on, because I imagine Dana, probably, I mean, on because I imagine Dana probably, I mean, a high view was he, well, I'm sure he begged him to come back. I mean, there was, there was the possibility that he may not ever come back after that payout, have to with May, with the

May weather fight, he could fight MMA for the next five years, and he won't make the amount of money that he made in that one fight with May weather. So the thought that this guy may never come back to the UFC was very, very possible. You gotta think that Dana begged the shit out of him and you gotta know that Connor knows this and was smart and I bet he negotiated,

I mean obviously he negotiated his proper 12 in the ring. Yeah, he saw that. That was part of that. I know he got three million to what Calvoys was. It was five, right? A few hundred thousand. Yeah, yeah, he got under a million for sure. I five a few hundred thousand. Yeah, he got it I know he got under a million for sure. I think it was was it 800,000 was like 500 or 200

Yeah, maybe you'll leave that up to I don't remember what what it actually was, but I know it was a huge discreet house House is house's whiskey company doing yeah, that's a good question. I'm sure it's still like doing well I mean, I know he punches people that don't drink that terrible. I mean, yeah, that I mean, I know he punches people that don't drink that terrible. I mean, yeah, that just was like, we don't want to bring that. That's not bringing that part of it. I like the guy, but I don't like that at all. Like that, that was like some bullshit that you... I was actually surprised that it didn't come up on the fight.

Oh, that'd get that. Like, cowboy would have thrown that into his face. No, I mean, yeah, I just, I felt like that, I mean, that was a big deal and it happened relatively recent and you would think that that would, people would have been kind of bashing them about that. I felt like there wasn't really much publicity on that. Shit, I had heard about it and didn't see anything until, when I was up in Tahoe, my buddies were about to watch the fight

and my buddies were like, I fucking hate him. Oh, I remember when that happened. And I was like, oh, what the fuck? And they showed me the video. I just watched the video for the first time and yeah, I didn't realize how bad it was. I just looked up how much corners proper 12,000. Oh my God, 200,000 is all he.

Well, he sold 200,000 cases in six months in the initial six months and says it's about to double. Wow. Yeah, that's, that was like right before the Mayweather fight, right? That's the, yeah, that's case. Because that before the Mayweather fight right that's the yeah That's He's got himself a he's got himself a very big company on his hands. What is it? Value that does it say no, I don't look I don't look that's to me. See what estimated value is on proper 12

There's got to be an article that for sure wow Wow, that's crazy. Hey, what's the markup on on on whiskey? It's got to be great.'s the markup on Whiskey? It's gotta be really good, right? Yeah, is it? Yeah, on hard alcohol, yeah for sure. Well, and I'm sure he's selling it at a higher price point too, just because of his name attached to it, right?

Wow, that's awesome. Yeah, that's crazy. Anyway, I was getting a nice little argument that today on the social medias. Oh, on the social medias. Yeah. I haven't done that a long time. I like like, like, like, a fucking dad or mom talking about social media.

That's why I say it that way. Social media. On the on the on the worldwide way. What was it that you used to say? What did you used to say to the YouTube when you used to say Hey, YouTubers. Yeah, yeah, it's a YouTuber. That's what you used to say on the YouTube channel.

We first started. You should bring that back. Hey, YouTubers. Yeah, YouTubers. So you're south stuff in over here. So somebody made a post saying how, because you know, they're talking about how this whole thing with Iran was happening or whatever, and they're like at least,

at least they'll be good for the economy. You know, if we go to war, what a terrible, that's the worst myth. That's a myth. You haven't heard people say that. You never heard people say that before. No, of course. Now war is good for the economy.

Oh, like in general, yeah. Yeah, like it's great boost for the economy. Yeah, I haven't you heard people say that? You never heard people say that before. No. Of course. That war is good for the economy. Oh, like in general, yeah. Yeah, like it's great boost for the economy. Yeah, I haven't heard that about. Terrible, stupid myth. It's so, it's the worst thing for the economy. It's a false signal. It's not just false.

It's, what do we do when we make for war? We make things that we blow up. No, we, we're making, we're making things that we cement tanks in airplanes. Yeah, that we explode. And then we kill people or become. It's the worst thing for the economy. Terrible, terrible myth, not true at all.

Don't believe that bullshit. Well, it looks like it because we can just print money. That's why. You know what I'm saying? Because you create jobs, you create work, you create things that people have to go create and sell for millions of dollars. No accountability where that money's going anyways. You know, it's like, we really need more money going there.

No, it's like, it would be like saying, hey, we just created 100,000 jobs, what you gotta do is get this shovel, dig up this hole, fill it back up, show up tomorrow, do the same thing, and we're like, yeah, we got jobs. That's not how it works. You need to produce things and you increase efficiency.

Otherwise, there is no net gain. And war is at loss. It's always a loss. Well, I just heard, I heard that, well, I feel like they'll probably end up wanting to pull even more money now to like stay in some, like quote unquote, arms race with like hypersonic technology. So if you heard about that,

like I guess there's like hypersonic type missiles that like Russia is developing and all this and trying to put out there. And so, of course, we wanna make sure that we're in the game too. And so I'm sure lots of money is gonna be asked to catch up on that front. Yeah, that's what we know.

Who knows what's, I know. We don't know. I don't know. There's always something like that. Why economy grows and how it dies by Peter Schiff is a must read. I think I mean, I was sharing with you guys probably one of the better books that I've read in the last couple of years, especially about economics. And if you're not into economics,

it's such a good read for you because they tell he tells it in almost like a children's story. And so it's a really easy fun read, but it just makes so much sense. And they use characters in the story that represent real people and real politicians and stuff. So it's really cool. All it is, all economics is, is how people are working together to create more efficient systems, to become more efficient, to be more productive. That's all it is.

So how do we create wealth? Money has no value unless it means something. And what it means, the value of it goes up if things become more efficient. So if it took before 10 people to do one thing, not only takes five people, we've increased efficiency and that's a boost to the economy. So that's one people are like,

oh, economics is boring. It's actually the most, one of the most important things you should probably love about. Dude, you brought up a TikTok the other day about being like the next, you know, sort of biggest app, you know, out of all of them, right? It was the, yeah, and it was the second most downloaded in 2000.

Only WhatsApp was the only one that was more download in 2019. So I heard some interesting news behind that in terms of like its origins. So it's actually it's a Chinese company. Right. And so I guess the military has banned it from any active military person from using it

because there's espionage stuff like tied into that just like Huawei, the phone. So I wouldn't put a lot of my like eggs in that basket. You know what? What a brilliant strategy. Make a free market product that people adopt but it's but you actually own you know you got ways you don't think user data to spot so exactly so that there's a big concern there that they're just now starting to kind of talk about well if you think about it's

interesting think about it something like Facebook you imagine like you know 20 years ago CIA's like how do we get people to give us all their information about them? willingly without spying on yeah how do we do this and invent Facebook or whatever they've done it dude speaking of China they they have quarantined their first city do you hear about this virus that's going crazy over there oh what was that virus calling Corona virus yeah Corona virus what does that look like when they do that they just block off no one comes in no one's out type of deal. Yep, you can't go in or out. The only people imagine being up here. It's supposed to be. Yeah, I know involves in that. So my instinct now, I know that what they're doing and it's probably who knows if it's necessary.

I mean, because China's such a populated place and some places are so densely populated that you might have to take those measures, especially stop a pandemic. But what would your instinct be if all of a sudden you're like, can't leave San Jose? Leave. Yeah, like fuck you. Yeah, I'm right here. Yeah. Right. Drive through the bear chain.

You got to think everybody's like that, right? Yeah. So, so they quarantined the city of Wuhan to stop the spread of this pneumonia like virus. And then the UK has its first cases. Scotland got its first cases of people with coronavirus. And there's been people in California who've gotten this one. It's a type of a flu, what is it?

It causes pneumonia. Oh wow. Yeah, so causing pneumonia and it's pretty nasty. It can be deadly, but it's not like an instantly deadly type thing. But fucking China, man, a lot of shit comes out of there because they're so densely populated and they eat fucking all kinds of shit. They think coronavirus came from snake.

What? Yeah, people eating snake and stuff. And it was like an animal virus that became, wow, you know, that mutated and now can spread through humans. You know, along the lines of old snake, man. Crazy tech and the future and stuff like that. Did know, along the lines of old, don't be in snake man. Crazy tech and the future stuff like that. Did you see what the police face recognition, or recognition, recognition, recognition, thank you?

I like recognition. Yeah, recognition. I recognize the wall. There's another library. You better recognition me. Edition. Did you see that? No.

I'll pull that up though. That's wild. So they, and I guess it's been really helping I mean obviously think about that if you have we have the tech to be able to figure that out if you're searching You're looking for somebody and you have the ability to scan scan their face through cameras or whatever and then be told Oh, that's self-destruction that's who that's the rapist we're looking for that's the rapist we're looking for. Wow. Wow.

How dare you put that out there? That's the fucking thing. I'm so glad you used to him. This rapist's not me for once. Appreciate that. I appreciate that. He posted me as like the the butthole tickler. I am sorry once.

I'm not that wasn't me. That's me. That is not a raper. That is only that is the only post that I repurpose every year. I get every year. It's so good. It is so good.

I forget who originally, that was like four years ago when someone first shared that with me, like the actual post and I'm like, yeah, I was like, this is a real new story. Yeah, it was a real shot from... So tell me about this facial recognition. So it's just really, really effective. Yeah, oh yeah, it's extremely effective, but then now they're freaking out that we can't,

we shouldn't be able to turn it into demolition, man. I mean, so it's one of these things that, okay, that's great that we have this ability, but what's what's the negative side? Oh, here we go. It gives me, it's raising alarms. Yeah. So that's not what scares me as much as the next thing. So that's, that's okay. That could be definitely. Well definitely. Well, here's, so if you read the article, it has like little minor flaws to it. And so that's what they're worried about is that, you know, it's not a hundred percent accurate. It's really accurate and it's helping them like crazy.

But even if it's one percent wrong, like, how fucked up is that, right? You get tackled, your face pops up. Or where are my fake nose? Yeah. Well, so, so here's what really frightens me. Did you know that, and this for sure is gonna be used in the future.

100% it's too powerful not to. Scientists can map out images based off of brain scans. So they've done this with monkeys. Map out what? So they've done this with monkeys and humans. You think of a picture and a computer picking up your brain scans,

we'll draw the picture that you're thinking, dude. Yeah, bro. No, I've seen that. They can see what you're thinking. That's fucked up. Think about how crazy this is gonna be. You're gonna canceling sessions. If this, if they allow them to do this.

Why? Because it could happen. It's insane. Isn't it a demolition man that has this? Isn't it demolition man that has that? If you think about this, if you're looking for all these people that are wanted, how many people are probably wanted, there's got to be a ton of, there's got to be millions, right?

I had a less time I counted if there was a 3,000, so I don't know. There's got to be a lot though, right? There's got to be a lot of people that- Some people aren't even wanted though. That's a sad part. Sorry. Wow. I mean, that really hits me.

We've got cameras everywhere now. I mean, you won't be able to go to an ATM, you won't be able to eat out at a fast restaurant. It goes even further than that. Every phone has a camera. What if you just connected to every phone? Yeah, they started that. Yes, they already did that in the movie.

I'm sure they did. Batman, I mean, like, explained all this already. And it might, my noir report did it too, right? Is it my noir report? Yeah, my noir report. So they had pre-cogs, which explain all this already. And it might, my normally report did it too, right? Is it my normally report? Yeah, so they had pre-cogs, which that was like unnecessary. Like we're gonna need like these, you know, people like ESP to like figure out, no, we need, we have computers, super computers

that are doing once. Wow, also 100,000 people are on the America's most wanted list. Is that what it says? And one million of these warrants are felonies and a pro, wow, that's a lot, dude. See? Now, how do you guys feel about this? About what?

To be able to use technology like this. Now, I mean, if you could... Depends who's using it. Well, the police. I know they started doing this just to see like, like tendencies and patterns in areas. And they would just focus in on like, some of these areas where they would like,

bring more police to make sure that like, they would just focus in on some of these areas where they would like bring more police to make sure that they would catch it in the act, and they were like really successful with that. So I'm all for that. I have, you know, here's a deal. I don't have too much of an issue with this so long as there's lots of, you know, as long as we have due process, I don't mind. If due process gets thrown out the window, then this stuff is all fucked. So, what I mean by that is if the police, if governments have the ability to take you, snatch you, throw you ass and jail, kill you, and they get to make that decision without a trial, without a jury, without a judge. You have tears, and yeah, not being involved.

No, I'm thinking of just purely for these people. You got a million people with warrants out on them Just trying to catch him right yeah, and and I could see that not like are you pro them using technology to be able to pinpoint exactly where they're all at Yeah, of course. I mean man that's a catch them. Yeah catch those fuckers. I mean, that's kind of crazy, right? I'm down with it But again, I like has to have do probably right about the court Yeah, you want to you want to make sure like all that go into the legal system It happens. That's why I got so this is why I'm so after September 11th

We started passing these crazy federal laws were where yeah the government's like well if you're terrorists You don't need to do process like okay, who determines the firm a terrible yeah, they determine Um, I don't know if I like that, you know I mean because depending on who's in charge, they could start to be. That's a lot of power in one direction. It is, but the reading of the mind stuff scares the shit of me. Because you guys know what's in my mind.

Yeah. I know. I don't even have to read it. I know. I don't want to draw your picture right now. Reading my brain. Yeah. Anyway.

I feel like you could hack that, though. You know what I'm saying? Like just real quick, think of something different. No, you can't, bro. Look at this way. Let me put this way. This is not easy as a fuck with you right now. All right, right now, don't think of a zebra. Okay.

Impossible. Elephant. Elephant, you know what I'm saying? Elephant grass. Yeah, but if you try not to think of a fucking zebra, you're going to. So let's say you go into a police station and they're like, all right,

we're gonna look into your brain because someone's been wanted for murdering. Like, all right, don't think of fucking. Next thing you know, you're gonna be thinking of crazy fucking shit. And your head. Yeah. You don't think you can hack that? Like you said zebra, and right away I knew what you're gonna do, so I was thinking elephant.

Yeah, but you're also thinking of a zebra right now. You're probably thinking of a zebra and an elephant. Oh, so maybe you draw like an elephant and that looks like a zebra? Yeah. How would they do it? Yeah. I don't know.

I'm really, really confused. So you guys, I see you guys fucking snatching up all the boxes of magic spoon. And we had the blueberry for like a second. Dude, I forgot to tell you that, I don't think I brought this up on the show that I finally got another order and I think they were sold out the first time that I ordered mine. And the second time they had the blueberry and I know you talked about it before. Yeah, holy crap. You had the blueberry one, dude.

I taste, so you guys know I can't have dairy, so I can have a little bit, but not much, because it'll bother me, but I did taste the blueberry, and it's really good. I don't know what magic you did knowing you can't have any excited about it. I don't know what magic they're doing over there to make, you could make a 30 grams protein serving of cereal.

You know what I think is funny? I saw on our form, our form, I love you guys. You guys are always so quick to like tear something apart when we put their paintings out there. This is so expensive and I'm like, it's so funny when I hear that because they're comparing it to the price of Cheerios or some shit. Yeah, and what you're paying for when you pay

for a product like this, you are paying for the protein It's the reason why a Snickers bar is a tenth of the price of a protein bar Mm-hmm. There's a reason why you pay three dollars for a protein bar And you pay 50 cents for a Snickers bar is because the Snickers bar is just a bunch of sugar and stuff and not that the The protein bar doesn't have that too, but it's also got 20 to 30 something grams of protein You eat one bowl of this cereal. You also got 20 to 30 something grams of protein. You eat one bowl of this cereal, you're getting like 30 to 40 grams of protein.

That's without milk. One and a half cups of this. That's a nice little serving. It's not even a huge serving. One and a half cups. You're gonna have 12 grams of fat, 16 grams of carbs of which there's fiber in there. No sugar, so sugar free.

And 24 grams of protein, not including the milk. That's a small one and a half. You tell me any of the cereal that does it, oh, and by the way, it tastes like kid cereal. Well, forget a cereal, find a meal that has those macros that doesn't cost you more than a couple dollars. It's expense, protein's expensive. Now, how are you, how are you, how are you, how are you, and the protein quality is good.

It's milk, but the way protein and the ingredient, it's sweetened with things like monk fruit and stevia It's all natural like you can't beat that That's the double edge sword. We always lean on the quality end of things. That's just how we roll Did we look for things that actually like are promoting something that let is filled with what they're what they're trying to promote Yeah, here's the actual amount of protein. Yeah, here's a serial hack. Get regular fruit loops, sprinkle some way protein on it, blend it in the, yeah. Yeah, go for that.

Well, no, do the math on that. Exactly. What is your protein bottle cost you? Actually, you're right. Yes, do the math on it. That's the, forget all the other stuff. I'm just talking about the money box that people always do. Like, yeah, it's more expensive.

So is anything that has 20 to 30 grams of protein. Find me a sandwich, a meal So is anything that has 20 to 30 grams of protein. Find me a sandwich, a meal out, anything that has 20, 30 grams of protein in a serving of something and tell me what the price is. Protein is expensive, carbs are cheap. Yes, it's true. So it's just how it works. It's something that my kids will actually eat,

I'm like, whatever, I'm going for it. Like this is perfect for me. Yeah, you know, it's funny. It's like, if, I'm like, whatever. I'm going for it. Like, this is perfect for me. Yeah, you know, it's funny. It's like, if you, if people, when it comes to food, spending money on quality food, eating right, is it more expensive? Sometimes, but in the long run, in the medium and long run, it's not more expensive.

It's less expensive. It's just the way of how you think about it. It's more expensive to be unhealthy. It's more expensive to be crappy food. It's more expensive to not more expensive. It's less expensive. It's just how you think about it. It's more expensive to be unhealthy. It's more expensive to be crappy food. It's more expensive to not feel good. You know what I'm saying? That's what that false comparison is. It's really not more expensive.

If you take, you know, I need 200 grams of protein a day. If I divide up how much my meals cost to get to that number, all day long, it's not gonna be more than a, you know, $1.75 bowl of cereal, it just is not gonna be. Yeah, right. So figure it that way, you know, people look at it like you said, compare it to Cheerios or compare it to a generic brand of cereal like, yeah, you know, that's fucking cardboard which fake sugar thrown on it. Yeah, hard to, it's gonna be tough to outtouch that.

I'll price that. Speaking of food quality, did you guys hear about that organic farmer that got busted? What? So there's this farmer, I gotta find the article dammit. This farmer who, his crops or his farmer, whatever, is responsible for about 10% of the organic crops in the US for corn and soybeans, right? So this guy produces a shit ton.

Well, apparently they weren't organic. He was bullshitting, and this whole time, he's been making food labeling organic, and 10% of the organic market wasn't even organic. Bro, that's a big... Shicer. He got busted and... That is a big amount.

How does that get... Now, here's a thing for the people. He got in big car friends like Lane, you know, where I can't help but side with him on this is that, you know, half of that stuff is such a scam and hustle too. It's what's unfortunate. I mean, yeah, but something we started with painted, something that we started with good into,

this is the reason too why I like brands like Butcherbox where you know where it's being sourced from and it's like, okay, that versus some random massive company that you're hoping is, you know, not's being sourced from and it's like, okay, that versus some random massive company that you're hoping is not pulling all the strings just to go past, just to pass under the radar as organic. Because, I can't remember where I read this, but they talk about what you need to do to classify something as organic and you still can get away with a lot of shit. If you want to, but your ask gets busted.

He's getting 10 years. Oh my, yes. Yeah, he's getting 10 years. Wow, that's a good deterrent. Yes. So you got some deterrent. You're right, though. There's going to be the people out there.

Do we know the brands that, so I mean, I, and there's a lot of brands associated with it. Oh, so he's, he's a wholesaler to a, that's why I can mainly corn and soy. It was, it was so, a corn and soy, which I don't eat much. No, I was gonna say, that's not really a, no, something I'm looking for.

No, but corn oftentimes gets fed to animals, so if you get organic beef, if it's not grass fed, it's getting fed corn. To 10% is a lot. Of the US market? Is a lot. I know, massive. 10 years in jail though, so whatever.

Wow. He'll be getting some organic in jail. Oh. Yeah. Yeah, I was saying that organic material. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Anyway, did you guys hear about that YouTube kid, that top earner?

What's his name? No one that opens gifts. I think that's it. Is that one or the one that does make up? No, no, no, no. Okay, Ryan Codgy, eight year old, who has Ryan's world. That's it is, right? Where he opens his gifts, right?

You know what you made last time? Ryan's world. It was like, it was nine million or something. You made $26 million. $26 million. The year before was like nine million. Wow. $26 million, he made, and the year before he made $22 million.

Now, Doug made a comment that he heard that they were going to start reducing that, like with kids kids like the way they monetize it Well, I heard something similar to okay, so just get like really excited when he opened like what the fuck? It's just kids love watching so here's so here's the thing we have them I don't think the 29 is 26 million is from YouTube ads I think some of it's from YouTube ads ads. I think he's getting paid by these toy companies Oh, yeah, open them up and to display them. That's probably where it's from YouTube ads, I think he's getting paid by these toy companies to open them up and to display them. That's probably where it's making most of the money.

Yeah, definitely. Cause YouTube ads don't, people think they pay up tons of money. It's barely anything. No, they don't make, that's not what they're making. That's one of the things I always talk about when I get interviewed.

Like, people don't realize that YouTube is a loss for us. Like, it costs us more money. It costs us more money to put a YouTube video up than what we get paid in. No, are you going to make shit up? That's with 350,000 subscribers we have. Yeah. People have no idea how terrible that.

No, that being said, someone you can use it as a platform. Well, part of the algorithm too is watch time and everything. And so you do get more money for somebody who's like, creates like vlogs like Casey Neistat or someone who you're watching, you know, 12, 15, 20 minutes of them versus like an instructional video like RZR which are typically shorter.

Yeah, I'm just, yeah, I'm just baffled by that because even my kids watch this guy that just plays video games and then like it makes it entertaining. Like he's a little bubble of him talking with his stupid purple hair. Oh, yeah. My son used to watch him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what platform is that, Andrew? Do you know the name of that?

What is that? Were the kids play video games, do they get paid? Twitch. Yes. Yes. And they make a lot of money. No, I have a nephew. I told my son, I'm like, listen.

Who just started making money doing it? Yeah, for Christmas, he would rather watch that than anything on TV. He asked for all the gear, so the headphones, the camera and everything on them. And he was kind of explaining it to me. And I don't want to get into it too much because I know I'll mess it up. But it's, after a certain amount of people are watching him, he automatically starts to

get paid. And so, and it's very similar to the YouTube model where you've got enough views and watching you for a long time. I have this talk with my son. I'm like, listen, you like video games. Let's start making money. I'm serious. I'm like, listen, you don't, look at, you need a promoter.

You don't want to go out there. Now, you got to be entertaining those two on the mic. That's it. Or just badass. It's one of the other. One of the other, both, is what makes you like famous. Right? If you are an entertaining kid and you're also bad-ass at whatever game you're playing,

that's where you know. I can't take away from this kid. He does do a great job of narrating what everything he's doing the whole time. Like what a pain in the ass job that's got, like it seems awesome, like oh, I'm in my house, I'm sitting and playing video games all day, but think about doing that every day.

Like he doesn't stop, bro. These, the top players, I talked to my son about this. He says the top video game players of the world practice on average, about 12 hours a day. Like he doesn't stop, bro. These the top players that talk to my son about this. He says the top Video game players of the world practice on average about 12 hours a day. Yeah, every day. Yeah, so it's not like it's easy or whatever That's that's hard. No, I remember when we had what was his name when we had him on the show that was friends of Mark Masteroff. Oh, yeah, I can't remember his name right now I mean, but I mean, it's obviously I mean, it's obviously, I mean, we keep talking about it, we haven't done anything about it,

but no doubt in my mind that that, that will be a growing market, will be the people that are taking care of their health. Yeah. Because they're sitting and staring at a screen all day long. They'll have the advantage. Yeah. Absolutely.

So if you're in the fitness space and you want a niche market that I think is going to explode, that would be catering to these people. Catering to the exercises they should be doing, the taking care of them. None of them are wearing blue blockers. None of them. No, I think I really, if you're staring at a screen for 12 hours a day, yeah. I foresee the pre-workout market start to dominate because you feel it, it's stimulating, makes you wired or whatever.

So I foresee like a pre-game drink of some sort blowing up. They do have some of them, but they're crap. I looked at them, I thought about this myself. So if you're a supplement company you're listening might be a good market for you to take your pre-workout and rebrand it, gamers fuel whatever. They don't have, I would think that's already.

They do, but they're not, but they're not. No, they drink, yeah, they drink Mountain you know they drink yeah they drink mountain dew and they drink like rock stars and stuff like that but like if you made one with like co-leaning it yeah really strong America being you know maybe some beta Alanine so they feel a little tingle or whatever yeah you're probably you probably do well. Janify.com. That's a large GNIFI.com and use a coupon code mine pump for 20% off at checkout. First question is from Jeremy Longpre. Do you guys recommend DeLoad Weeks in between phases of your programs? If so, how often and what would you recommend they look like?

Okay, so specifically in regards to our programs. Yes, that's a lot. Yeah, no, not unless you think you need one, but the way we designed our programs was, you just thought ahead of this. Yeah, you follow it through. In fact, if you follow multiple programs, because here's the ideal way, right?

So let's say you've been listening to Mind Pump for a while, and you're very, very serious about your fitness. You're very trustworthy. We know we're doing it. Yeah, you're very, very serious about your fitness. You're very, very, very, I'm very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, I'm very, very, very, very, very, very serious about your fitness. You're very, very, very, very,

very, very, very serious about your fitness. You're very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very serious about your fitness. You're very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very serious about your fitness.

You're very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, back to back and they're essentially designed to be able to be run that way. Now the way you would do a D-load week would be based off of feel. Well, first of all, since you just said that and I get this question all the time,

you should explain to people what that order looks like. Unless you've been with us since day one, you don't probably know what that order is. For most people listening, generally speaking, a great way to go through the programs would be maps and a ball, then you would go maps performance, then you would go generally speaking, a great way to go through the programs would be maps and a ball, then you would go maps performance, then you would go maps aesthetic. Then if you wanna go more of the body building route, you could do maps split.

If you wanna go more, you know, functional strength type of stuff, you can go maps strong. If you wanna do more powerlifting, then you can go maps powerlifting from this. And if you really wanna, you know, maintain mobility and stuff throughout the whole process, using something like maps prime. But they've all been really designed, like mobility and stuff throughout the whole process using something like Maps Prime. But they've all been really designed, like we started with the core of what, no matter

what your goal is, the core three is kind of like the idea of. And a Maps Enabolic, Maps Performance, Maps is that. Right, and then from there you can kind of take more specific paths, right? Am I more like you said, body builder-ish, more strong man-ish, you know, my more powerlifting-ish, and kind of going that direction. And you won't need, if you're healthy, your nutrition's good, you're doing everything right,

you're following the programs as they're laid out, you're not gonna need to do de-load weeks. But if your body's not feeling good, if you're feeling run down, then a de-load week can actually be quite advantageous. It can actually benefit you quite a bit. I think people, now if you're a heart, if you're like a really high level athlete, then the D-load week can get very technical. But for most people, a D-load week can be literally just, you know, this week, I'm going to go in the gym, I'm going to go 50% intensity, just go super easy. That's it. It could be that simple or or this week

I'm not going to go to the gym and all I'm going to do is mobility and correctional exercise like that would be A great way to do it. I think some you know, and this probably is from the I would say the powerlifting world They tend to be really technical with their delos. Yeah, but they're dealing with like high level Well, they're also the most likely to need a deal. We do I mean, I've all the most intense of all of all the lifting that I've done when I train most like a power lifter is when I flirt with Needing the deal a week more than anything else because you're just you're lifting a heavy heavy load Just a lot of you feeling the joints. Yeah, stress on the joint and that's kind of if you're not following any maps programs And you're wanting to know this answer it It's a it's a definitely it depends it really depends on the programming or how how intense you've been training and normally you know like if you and signs of that

fatigue You'll see strength decrease, you know, you'll be like oh my god last week. I was benching x and now I'm only benching this so if you're you'll be like, oh my God, last week I was benching X and now I'm only benching this. So if you're decreasing in strength or achy joints, major stiffness and achy joints, those three are like the major indicators that there's a good chance you could benefit from, you know, deloting for a week and that delote week could be as basic as sourcing where you just back off 50% of the load. 50% of what you would be doing will reduce the intensity, probably let you recover it,

or if it's really bad, you wouldn't hurt from doing all mobility. And I remember the first time learning of the value of a D-load week, I was in my late teens and my family had planned a big family vacation. And at this point, I'd been working out consistently for at least a few years. I was very obsessed with working out, never missed a workout,

definitely overdoing it more often than not. And we went on this vacation and I did not have access to a gym. And so it was a week. And so what I did during that week is I, you know, I tried doing some pushups here and there and some pullups wherever I could, but I basically didn't work out. And I remember going back to the gym on the week bet when we came back to. And you were stronger. And I walked in and worked out and I was lifting more.

And I remember thinking like, this is crazy. I for sure I thought I'd get weaker because I didn't work out for a whole week. And that's when I started to really realize like, okay, if I'm not allowing my body the right amount of time to rest and recover, then it's not going to build, it just won't. And that's when I started to figure out, okay, this is something that might be good.

Sometimes too, a D-load doesn't need to be a D-load week, either. Sometimes it's just a few days. Sometimes, and this is probably something that more commonly happens with me is, I do back-to-back workouts where I kind of overreached. And I knew I shouldn't have, I still did it anyways, and then my body goes, yep, you did.

And then that to me is like, okay, I'm just gonna pull back for the next two or three days and instead of staying on this track of training this intense, I'm gonna back off the intensity for a few days or again, focus all on mobility for a few days. So it doesn't always have to be an entire week either. It's just it's a great thing for you to learn to do is to read and listen to the signals your body is trying to give you when you are over training and over reaching.

And nobody knows better than you if you're this type of person. Like we openly admit that even as trainers and knowing better, it's very common that we still overreach all the time, still do that even though we know better. And so when I do this, I know that I gotta back off and de-load a little bit. If you're that person, then you gotta pay attention to those signs.

You could also be the other side, which, you know, that I'm careful. All you need is an excuse to not worry. Yes. And so that I'm very, that's why this is definitely a depends question because I also used to have clients that were looking for an excuse to not train. And he's a lot less common that you need a deal. I would agree.

You know, I'm saying, unless you're in the space, like if you're even doing it forever and you've been like super sick. Yeah, you'll love if you love working out and you've been training consistently for a long time or you're in the fitness space. You more likely are the people that are probably overreaching and could get a lot of benefit from dealing with. But I would say for most people listening, if you follow our programs and you follow them one after another, you should know.

We'd be all right. We'd design them to be able to be run concurrently in that way. In fact, we design them to get progressively more effective in terms of your body's progress. What you'll find is you're following the programs as you move to the next one and then move to the next one, your body's going to continue to make faster. That's a great point. That's why we recommend in order because if, let's say, you are a brand new beginner and

you've never lifted before and you decided to buy a MapsPED. There's a good chance you might need a D-Load after that. You're way overreaching for somebody who's just getting started and you shouldn't go into a program that's that intense, that much volume and that's the reason why we tell everybody they should go red, green, and then black. And that order is because it progressively starts to build the volume up. Then from there, all the ones that have a much higher volume, you should have adapted to the more and more volume through the course of those three programs that you can handle

taking on one of the other programs. We actually put those three programs in a bundle where we discounted them significantly. It's called the RGB bundle, red, green black, that refers to the color of the programs because maps and a ball, X, red, mass performances green, and then maps aesthetic is black. Next question is from Mo Daywood. What are your thoughts on mini-bulks and mini-cuts? I think we were the first people to talk about. I did.

I loved it. I feel like we came up with that. I love that we're getting questions on things that we, I feel like introduced, or to the space, or at least talked about them in this way. So, many bulk and stuff. And I'm sure, okay, you can share. I'm sure somebody exactly cares. No one's saying it.

I'm not going to claim we invented anything. Because there's fucking somebody did this before us. It's like, it's not that at all. But there wasn't a lot of people talking about this, the traditional way in our space to bulk into cut is you have winter time and you bulk. You put on whatever weight and you add calories like crazy and you focus on bulking for months at a time.

And then the cut is months also getting ready for that. And it's just, when you think about the most effective way to do things, this is not the most effective way to do, although we've been doing it for years. Well, when you're lifting weights and you're doing it properly and you're eating in excess of calories so that you can build, initially in that process, a lot of those calories goes to muscle,

but the longer you stay in a calorie surplus, especially if it's a big surplus, the less of those calories goes to muscle, but the longer you stay in a calorie surplus, especially if it's a big surplus, the less of those calories go to muscle and the more of it go to body fat, okay? Now when you're cutting, that meaning you're eating less calories in your burning and you're training in a way to burn body fat, initially, a lot of the weight loss that you start to see

besides water starts to become is body fat. But if you stick to that for a long time, your body starts to try to adapt by sometimes reducing muscle mass. And so this is why you'll find people on long diets who lose 10 pounds or 15 pounds and find that half or more of the weight that they lost went to muscle.

So one of the ways that you can kind of maximize the benefits and the effects of bulking and cutting and minimize the potential negatives of bulking and cutting, is to do it for a shorter period of time. So, many bulks is like three weeks long, three, four weeks. So, for three, four weeks, I'm eating in a surplus and I'm lifting weights to build muscle. I'm in the cut, same thing, three to four weeks.

I'm eating in a deficit and I'm training it away to burn body fat or to preserve muscle. Now, what if you just wanna cut? What if you're like, I wanna cut a lot. Like, what do I do after the short cut? Here's what you do. Let's say you did your mini cut, and it was four weeks long. After that four week period, do a week or two

of maybe maintenance calories, or maybe a slight, a very, very small surplus for a week, a week or two max. Then go back on the cut. So it would look like a four, four week on, one week off, four week on, two week off type of a schedule. And what you'll find when you do this is you minimize those negative effects. You minimize it metabolic adaptation, the muscle loss,

you maximize the fat burning, or in the case of bulking, it's more lean mass and not just dirty weight. It's very similar to the training volume philosophy that we have. You're doing as little as possible to elicit the most amount of change. You're applying that nutritionally here.

I mean, does that mean you can't cut for six weeks or eight weeks? Of course not. You could absolutely do that. But to maximize it, we want to do as little as we possibly can to elicit the most amount of change. And you got to understand that your body just like it adapts to exercise,

it gets adapted to whatever you're consuming and eating on a regular basis. So, you know, running in a surplus for a little while and then changing it up is one of the best things that you can do and what we're trying to do is and this is where the individual variance is, is the peak time for that person two weeks or four weeks or is it five weeks or three weeks? I don't know, that depends on each person individually. It's kind of false somewhere though, between like the two and six week range. I mean, that's gonna be ideal.

Once after that, the results, and if you're a competitor, or if you've ever competed, you know this. This is one of the number one mistakes I saw people competing is, they would go on these like 12 week cuts. And boy, they were miserable for like the last four to five weeks. And the reason why they were miserable is because their body had adapted to that low calorie intake

and that excessive amount of cardio so well that they were starting to see very minimal change. And they had to cut real low at that point. Yes. And so it just gets so extreme where again, you want to... And psychologically speaking, I think it's better too. Staying on a bulk constantly or a cut constantly. It starts to get tiresome.

It starts to get really, really difficult. Breaking it up with a week of going in maybe slightly the opposite direction besides being probably good for you physically is good for you psychologically. So you don't end up 12 weeks in a cut and then you come out of good for you physiologically, is good for you psychologically. So you don't end up, you know, 12 weeks in a cut and then you come out of it and you're like, I'm free and then you binge in the opposite direction. Next question is from T Evans 2208.

Are there any benefits to carb cycling or can it cause a bad relationship with food? Okay, it can cause a bad relationship with food if it turns into restrict binge. So if carb cycling for you looks like no carbs and then all the carbs are ones. Then that's a problem. Other than that, here's the benefits of carb cycling

that I have found personally. I don't think it's going to accelerate or maximize fat loss. I don't think there's any evidence to show that that it's superior cycle than to just have lower carb, just go higher carb. I think the benefits are psychological, I really do. I think for a lot of people reducing carbs is a great way

to eat a lower calorie diet, proteins and fats, tend to be more satiating, but if you've ever gone a low carb diet for a long time, you know how your workouts start to suffer, you don't get good pump. Is basing carbohydrates like adding that to when you're most active, is that part of carb cycling,

or is that called something else? That is a type of carb cycle. Okay, yeah, where it's like targeted carbohydrate intake. Exactly. For athletic purposes, like that's kind of where I would see, some benefit in terms of how you utilize like accessible fuel, like carbs obviously being superior

there. Well, first of all, any diet can cause a bad relationship with food. I don't care what diet is. Right. So that's a tough one to answer, right? Like it would, yeah, absolutely it could. It could for anyway. I love carbs, I use it quite often. I'd love to teach it to people. And I probably agree with you, Sal, like it's probably because of the psychological benefits. I just, I think it kind of mirrors our natural tendencies of eating and we don't even realize it.

Like if you were to take a snapshot of how somebody eats for three weeks consistently that wasn't tracking, but you could track for them and see, you would see they kind of have this natural ebb and flow probably of carbide. You're just managing it and controlling it and sticking to boundaries around that where I think what a lot of people naturally do is they stay in this kind of low to moderate and then they do a bunch of activity or they go a long period without eating and everything gets depleted and then they get really hungry, they get the cravings and then they do a bunch of activity. They go a long period without eating and everything gets depleted and then they get really hungry.

They get the cravings and then they overdo it like crazy and then they come back down moderately. And so I think we kind of naturally do this anyways, but doing carb cycling correctly, you're obviously figuring out your macros and what a high day, a medium day and a low day would look like you and then you cycle that. And we should explain that, right? So there's probably a lot of people listening going with the fuckedist carpsychly mean. It just, it basically means that you're going through periods

of lower carbohydrate intake and moderate to higher carbohydrate intake for a specified period of time. And I want people to know too, because I get this question a lot. Like how you do that as far as, you know, how many days high, low, and what's the cycle look like? I've actually played around with this

and done it multiple ways. And my advice is whatever you'll stick to, right? Like I personally used to like to have two really, really low days, a moderate day, and then a really high day. And then repeat. Yeah, and then repeat. I've done it all kinds of ways, though, where I do a low, a medium, I'm high, and it's a then repeat. Yeah, and then repeat. I've done it all kinds of ways, though,

where I do a low, a medium, I'm high, and it's a three-day cycle, and you repeat. It's really, and what I would do is just what felt best with me, how my workouts were going when I was running that low of carbohydrates versus allowing a moderate and a high day and only running it three days. Like, you know, play with these things.

There are no rules. You just gotta figure out how many total calories first, your body needs, then how many total grams of protein it needs. So that's where you start. And then you look at your fats and carbohydrates for the rest of the makeup of where your calories need to be and divide that. And we talk all the time about, you know,

what exactly should that percentage? I like to split my carbs in my fat. I like to be a very even balance where- Do you mean calorie wise? Yeah, calorie wise. Right? Yeah, gram per gram. Yeah, I didn't know.

Not gram per gram, but if you look at, I've got, after I look at my protein intake, let's say for arguments sake, I've got 2,000 calories left to spend. I like to get about 1,000 that from fat, 1,000 that from carbohydrates, figure out how many grams that equals and Then divide that over three days and cycle them that way and if you're trying to lean out So that's about a hundred grams of I'd be like 90 grams of fat a hundred and fifty grams of carbs

Something like that and that was just a random It's not a real number of people you know getting idea Yeah, but I mean so then and then from there you you run one where you're you know, that would be your what your body needs Right, so a surplus would be a little bit over that I would consider a moderate day kind of hitting hitting your maintenance and then a low day Being you know, maybe 50% less of carbohydrates And the way I would like to do it in the past was kind of what Justin was talking about where it's More targeted so I would have some carbs around my workouts and then on my higher carb days, I would

throw in an additional carbohydrate meal. So I've done something, I love to do this, which is similar to that. Justin's thinking performance wise. I used to think like what I was focusing on, like when I was competing. So I would always keep my either moderate or high days around the muscle groups that I really want to grow and build. So yeah, you have the energy to pump. Yeah, the energy to pump and I have the refeed of all those nutrients. And it just it felt good to have my moderate to high days around the muscle groups that I'm trying to develop

and really push and stretch myself. And then muscle groups that are like my arms a strength of mine that I don't, I could skip and be okay with. I would, and when you, because we know when you're on really low carbs, sometimes you just don't have the oomph to train. And so I would pick the days that I would be training, you know, muscle groups that are not weakness of mine.

And then that I wouldn't care if I was, didn't have the intensity or the ability to push in those training sessions. Next question is from Delicious and Nutricious. Does foam rolling actually work? What's the science behind it? Is it better to have a hard or a soft foam roller? I like this question because go hard.

As trainers for many years, I think I know I explained this incorrectly. We explained it incorrectly when we started the mine pup. Yeah. Yeah, early on. Remember we talked about foam rolling as myel fascia release? What was explained, yeah, it was explained wrong to us to begin with. Yeah, foam rolling is not releasing the fascia as a lot of us thought. It wasn't, it's not breaking down knots and tissue and adhesions like a lot of us thought.

It's probably not what's happening, but it does have some value, it really does. It's not gonna fix a problem, but foam rolling allows you to move in ways that allow you to fix the problem. This is where the value is. So let's say you have issues getting into a good proper squat because your knees hurt and your hips feel sore.

So you foam roll for 15 minutes beforehand. Now you can get into a proper squat. So does that mean the foam roller fixed? You know, it allowed you to get into that proper squat to train in a way now. Right, it gives you a temporary relief. Yes, it's very temporary. And if you don't fix the root cause of your pain

or your mobility issues, you'll have to foam roll every single time you work out. And over time, you'll start to get worse if you don't correct those problems. Now, correct me if this is kind of how I explain it in layman's like, what happens to us when we get these, you know, quote unquote, knots or tightness feeling is, this is your CNS overactive.

It's a protective mechanism. And if you think that every time you move a muscle or you activate a muscle, all these, these neurons from your brain are fired there. And let's just say for arguments, say, it's a hundred of those get fired there. When it's super overactive, instead of firing a hundred there, it's firing 500 there. And so it's just, it's getting over, overworked and it gets tense and tight because of that. And it's more CNS related than it is something going on with our fascia or our muscle. It's just overly stressed. And then when we roll like that, you get just like when you get a nice good deep

tissue massage, it relaxes that and releases it. It sort of dampens the signal. I think that, I mean, the pain signal is beneficial to identify potential problems. And I think that we forget the fact that pain is, that's feedback. That's something to pay attention to. And for you to now foam roll and apply pressure in that area to be able to kind of maybe damper down that signal. So now it can allow for you to keep on like thinking that, you know, you're supported in that area and everything can, you know, function properly. That helps

to kind of then promote these better patterns to occur as a result of that. But I think it is, it's just, it's just a way to kind of release a lot of the, the, the, the immediate tension in the, the alarm system, if you will, of like, hey, something's wrong here, and we need to like really tighten up and protect. I mean, there's still a ton of value to it. Oh, I still use foam rollers here and there. I like them exactly for what we're explaining. I mean, what we know is when you apply pressure to a part of your body, there are localized, you know, natural anesthesia, anesthetics that get released.

There's natural chemicals that are released in that area that kind of start to alleviate pain. So that's number one. But number two, here's the big thing that's happening. So if you've ever had a muscle cramp, you ever woke up in the middle of the night where your calf is real tight, you instinctually push on it.

You instinctively try to smash on it with your hand or stretch it out. And the reason why you're doing that instinctually push on it. You instinctively try to smash on it with your hand or stretch it out. And the reason why you're doing that instinctually is because when you're pressing on a muscle, your brain receives a signal that'll say, relax, relax that area, relax that muscle. And so that's what ends up happening. It helps calm it down.

When you have tight muscles, those muscles are tight because they're probably tight because they feel like they need to protect you because of poor movement patterns. Well, and using that example, let's say someone you've craved at all of time because you have some sort of nutritional deficiency. You putting that pressure on for release,

you're not fixing it because you're not addressing the root cause. So you'd have to dive into that. You're bandating it. So the same thing goes with mobility, right? If you are, goes with this, let's say you have IT, real common, common right so you causes neither knee pain or hit pain Romain for people they roll it they feel relief from it the foam roll is not fixing it

It's giving you temporary relief So then you could go into doing the either strength training exercises that are necessary or the mobility work that is necessary To help work towards it if you don't do that and you just foam roll to relieve it and then you go about your movements kind of the same way you always have, you're just gonna keep having to do that all the time. It wasn't until we got into mobility training, did I was I able to eliminate using the foam roll? Like I went from the guy who used to foam roll

for 15, sometimes 20 minutes before a good strength training session because I felt it was necessary for to get me relieved enough just so I could go after, get after a good lift to someone who doesn't have to do it at all anymore, but that's also because I've implemented mobility into mobility work days into my training now,

and now I don't have to do any further. Well, yeah, it tripped me out even just going through FRC and things where we're just focused more on the isometric part of that, like not even necessarily movement, but more just like the squeeze and the tension that, that actually has that same effect of like localized pressure, but now, you know, me just squeezing and connecting

more to the muscle actually alleviated a lot of the pain almost instantaneously. Right. Yeah, it's not that different from getting deep tissue massage, although a good massage therapist obviously is gonna be targeted and individualized and far more effective, but it's not that different. The same kind of relief that you'll get

from deep tissue massage is very similar to what you'll get from a foam roller, but even with like same thing, like let's say you have pain, and so you go see a massage therapist, and when you're done, oh my God, it feels so much better. You're probably gonna have to keep going if you don't solve the reason why you're getting tight like that in the first place. And so that's what, so foam rolling is a very valuable tool but it is not a solution. Yeah, it's part of a solution. I look at it as

almost like active versus like passive therapy. So this is like probably one of your passive. Even though you're the one instituting it, it's more passive than actively controlling. I would agree. And with that, go to mindpumpfree.com and download all of our guides and resources. We have guides on fat loss, muscle building, building your arms, getting a better squat. I have a testosterone guide for those of you that want to raise your testosterone. So it kind of breaks down ways you can do this naturally. Just go to mindpumpfree.com and download all of those.

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