Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1218: How a Poor Muscle Connection Impacts Muscle Growth, Ways to Relieve Joint Pain, When to Take a Diet Break & MORE

Episode Date: January 31, 2020

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about chronic joint pain, whether you can build muscles you can't connect to, thoughts on the carnivore diet, and how often you should take diet breaks. Why is Sal consuming black ant powder? (5:23) Adam recommends SUPPS: The Movie on Amazon Prime Video. (9:37) Protein powders and their quality throughout the years. (17:22) Trigger sessions 101: The lost universal training technique. (23:06) Gaining knowledge from Russian training techniques. (27:51) Mind Pump on the season premiere of The Biggest Loser and the brilliant marketing of Planet Fitness. (28:53) The origin story of the ‘Allstate Mayhem’ campaign. (44:56) The growing trend of demonizing protein. (48:28) #Quah question #1 – My joints always seem to be hurting. I work out 4-5 times a day, take fish oil and stay hydrated throughout the day. Am I doing something wrong? (54:10) #Quah question #2 – Can you build muscles you can't connect to? (1:03:18) #Quah question #3 – What are your thoughts on the carnivore diet and how long do you run it? (1:09:41) #Quah question #4 - How often you should take diet breaks and how long should they last? (1:16:16) Related Links/Products Mentioned January Promotion: MAPS HIIT ½ off! **Code “HIIT50” at checkout** Premium Black Ant Extract - Benefits The Digestive System‎ SUPPS: The Movie Director's Cut - Amazon.com Visit Organifi for the exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code “mindpump” at checkout** MAPS Fitness Anabolic – Mind Pump Rubberbanditz Resistance Band Set How Allstate's Mayhem brought carnage and humor to insurance marketing HOW HIGH-PROTEIN DIETS COULD INCREASE HEART ATTACK RISK Prime Bundle | MAPS Fitness Products - Mind Pump Are you taking too much anti-inflammatory medication? Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Pavel Tsatsouline Erica ⬇️ 150 Lbs SW: 322 Lbs (@ericafitlove)  Instagram Steve Cook (@stevecook)  Instagram Mikhaila Peterson (@mikhailapeterson)  Instagram

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this episode of Mind Pump, we answer four fitness and health questions from listeners. What is he for? Just like you, but the way we open the episode is by talking about current events. We tell funny life stories. We have great conversation

and we mention our sponsors. So here's what we talked about in this episode of Mind Pump. I start out by mentioning a crazy, crazy new supplement that I just started messing with. You're gonna have to listen to the episode to find out, but it's gross. Of course you try. And it's weird. That led have to listen to the episode to find out, but it's gross. Of course you try. And it's weird.

That led Adam to talk about the new documentary on Amazon called Sups. I can't wait to watch I'm a huge fan of the supplements. It's bro. Industry, which is kind of cool, which brought me to talk about protein powders and their qualities through the years. I mean, when I first started taking protein powders way back in the 90s, they were basically dry milk powder. They were disgusting. And if you wanted to go with a vegan protein powder because I had an intolerance to dairy

that I figured out later on, it was like ground up dry soy. It was a terrible quality. Wasn't good. Well, these days you have quality products like organifies plant-based protein, which has a mix of plant-based proteins to give you a good amino acid profile. And it tastes really good. That's the other thing. I remember the old protein

powders. You deserve to build muscle if you could stomach those things, but the new ones are really delicious. Anyway, organify is one of our sponsors. They make phenomenal supplements. If you want to discount off their products, here's what you do, go to organify.com.forth-mindpump and use the code MindPump for 20% off. Then I talked about the conversation I had with Doug in the car on our way up to our house up in Trucky. And we were talking all about trigger sessions. That's a concept found in Maps and Obolic.

Very effective technique you can use on any workout to amplify the muscle building and fat burning signal that you send with your normal workouts. Then we talked about a Russian training technique that the Soviets used to dominate weightlifting. Then we talked about the show, The Biggest Loser. They just had their premiere the other night. Our good friend, Erica is on that show.

She's one of the trainers. We love her. The show quite entertaining, but we have our criticisms. You have to listen to the episode to find out. Then we talked about all states, mayhem, advertising campaign. It was pretty brilliant. And then I talked about the high protein demonization

that is starting to happen. So stay tuned, ladies and gentlemen. They will be demonizing protein next. They did it to carbs and fats. Proteins are all that's left. Then we got into answering the fitness question. The first question had to do with painful joints. This person's joints hurt and they work out,

they take fish oil, they stay hydrated. They wanna know what they can do to get better joint health. In that portion of the episode, we talk about correctional exercise. That's one of the best ways to solve joint pain. Then we also mentioned certain supplements that you can take. I mentioned Organifies Move, combination of four supplements. There's turmeric in there, holy basil, picnoginol is also in there.

Holy basil. All proven to help regulate your natural inflammatory response. Again, that code I mentioned earlier works for that product as well. All proven to help regulate your natural inflammatory response. Again, that code I mentioned earlier works for that product as well. Then we talked about how to connect to muscles and why that's important to developing. The question was, can you build muscles that you can't connect to? So we talk all about that. The next question, this person wants to know what our thoughts are on the carnivore diet.

Some people call it the lion diet. This is where you eat, only meat. Wait for it. Yep, that's it. Just meat. Nothing else. So we give our opinion there. And the final question, this person wants to know how often you should take diet breaks and how long they should last. So we talk all about diets, breaks, not having breaks. Are you on a diet at all? Do they even exist? Yeah, we got real philosophical towards the end of that one. Also, everybody, listen, you have 24 hours left. One day left for the 50% off, maps hit sales.

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and use the code hit50. That's h-i-i-t50, no space for the discount. I did something the other day that I haven't done a long time that I used to do a lot. What's up? So I used to, and this is just, it was a fun thing that I did. I just don't have the time anymore to do this.

But I used to back in the day, hang upside down and whack it. Whoa. I'm going for it. I've never done that. No, I've actually never done that. You know those vertical machines? No. Okay.

Just as like that's what I did. Yeah. No, I, no. I wonder if it'd be hard to get an erection like that. I bet it would. Because the blood has to go higher. Yeah. Yeah.

What happens when you fail the astronauts, too? Oh, that's what I heard. No, that's not the same thing. Okay. Anyway, what I used to do back in the day is I would go online and I would read forums or reviews to learn about new and up-and-coming trends or especially supplements because I would always learn about a new supplement on the forums

before it became kind of a big mainstream kind of thing. I'd read about it first and I'd read people's reviews and then I'd learn the history and then you'd have to, you know, you dive in on the internet and do all this stuff. So anyway, I did that again with another supplement. So I was reading some forums on obscure supplements that I'd never heard about and I came across something called,

I'm gonna read the technical term and then I'll tell you guys what it means. Uh, polyrakis vacina. Hope I'm pronouncing it right. So P-O-L-Y-R-H-A-C-H-I-S. Polyrakis vacina. Vacina. And this is a- B's vagina. It's not that. No, it's not that. No, it's not that. Do they have them? Of vagina? Yeah. No, I don't know. Okay. B's have a vagina. Uh, but this supplement, this know. Okay. And you can say that with vagina.

But this supplement, this herb or whatever has been used in Chinese medicine for centuries, it's known as a very, very potent key booster of the life energy. It's got a yang component. Spit it out. What is it? Hold on, I'm done. Uh, so it's supposed to boost libido energy. It's supposed to be very powerful from what I read. It's even ranked higher than Jinxing,

which Jinxing is extremely prized in Chinese medicine for its key and yang boosting. Some exotic animals' privates. Quality, so that's where I was thinking. You know, it sounds like go to. So I read you guys a technical term the actual Like a layman's name for it is black and extract So black ants black and extract so like the they they have like a poisonous venom or anything

No, they literally take track a a certain a certain species of an antero and no they just fucking grind them up Really? Yes. It's ground up ants, the specific type of ants. Why? Well, they've been using it for centuries. Well, you remember there's those birds, right? That intentionally go and they scoop all the ants

that are underneath their wings, and then the ants like stings them and it gives them hot, gets them high. Well, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Well, ants have, them hot, get some high. You ever seen that? Yeah, I've seen that. Well ants have, I mean they're high in nutrients and all stuff, but I don't think that's what's producing the results or something else. So anyway, I'm reading all these reviews.

Yeah. And people are like, oh my God, this rate, I made my libido one through the roof. I love this as a pre-workout so much. I mean, tons of reviews. I went on Amazon and I found their product. I looked up every product that sold this and I looked up all the reviews and majority of them were good.

I went on forums. I looked at Chinese medicine and read up about it or whatever. So I did this a while ago. So I'm like, I'm gonna try this out. This is kind of interesting. So I ordered some. Of course you did. No affiliation.

No affiliation. We're not working with no company. I'm not selling this. I've only tried it once, so this is not me, but I tried it and I swear. It legit has some weird stimulating properties. Like, yes, dude, I took a half a scoop and it's black and it's powder, right?

Dude, what? Yeah, so I took it and I drank it and 45 minutes later. Do you often add that to my Rano ball powder? Dude, 40. It's bullsemen, is that what it is? Bullsemen? What is it that you see? What is bullsemen's only effective

if you get it out naturally? That's right. I was watching so that I got tagged on a new documentary on Amazon, The Sups. I haven't seen it yet. Really, I tell you what, really good. Really? You liked it. I loved it.

What I loved about it, let me, okay, hold on, let me back up a little bit. I loved most of it. And the whole first half of it is literally like the history. Oh, it's gonna be nostalgic. Oh, you're gonna love it. You're gonna love it because a lot of the things that they go all the way back to the snake oil.

They go back to the very beginning to the very first Examples of any sort of supplements and the evolution of it and where where it came from although and they step you through The introduction of protein who were the big ones? Why they were the big players? How they market and advertise? Oh, it goes in. It's really a cool. Weeter was the first marketing genius in the supplement space. He was the best, one of the best, actually. Oh, yeah, they talk, they, and they build Phillips.

They just, they invented the modern supplement. They go, they go through each and every one of those. They actually talk about a couple that I, I wasn't familiar with and I've never heard you talk about before that rivaled them actually around that time and, and why they did. Do you know their names? If you said them, I would know, but I don't know. I can't remember the name. familiar with that I've never heard you talk about before that rivaled them actually around that time and why they did. Do you know who names? If you said them, I would know, but I don't know. I can't remember the name.

They mention like Dan Dukin. Oh, yeah. It was all about him. Oh, wow. He was all in it. I don't know. Everybody we've talked about about the history of supplements. It's right in line with everything we've discussed, but even more detail around it.

They go deeper with the marketing genius behind it and the people that were behind all those companies. And they talk about back then, there was this opportunity for a science guy, a marketing guy to pair up. And that's what just made these companies dominant. And Bill Phillips was an example of that because the team that he had surrounded around him, he had the best doctor at the time in the protein world.

They were doing some of the best studies like back then and then he was a marketing genius and then the count. That's the formula you take a little bit of science and you market it really well. Is he the MetRx guy? No, that was Dr. Scott Connelly, did they talk about him? Yes, they got into that. Metrics was one of the first companies to present

their product in that way. Yep. You know, scientifically, metamias and protein and it's supposed to work differently. Yeah, they talk all about that cyber genics, they talk all about it. Oh yeah. And when they started using transformation picks and all that. Oh yeah, they got into that. They got into the, that's so funny, I did cyber genics.

They talk about the, what's the orange pre-workout, the first pre-workout. Yeah, ultimate orange. Ultimate orange. And Duquesne. Yeah. That was the first one. Ultimate orange. Ultimate orange. And Duquesne. That was the first one that had like a fedra. They discussed all about Fedra and its benefit. All that. So they went, it was a great documentary.

Actually, probably one of my favorites. I'll check that out. Yeah, the only thing that I had, the then, so the first 30, 45 minutes is all that thing is phenomenal. And then it did cause me to start going down the rabbit hole of like, okay, who funded this? Who is it? cause me to start going down the rabbit hole of like, okay, who funded this? Who is it? Because then they start like the whole time, it's almost like

they're mocking supplements, like how it came to be, how it was all, it's all hype, it's all built around. And so I love to sell it at the end. And then they kind of like sell it at the end a little bit. You know what I'm saying? So I was like, okay, so somebody's behind this, somebody who is a part of this, of course, is connected for sure to some, and I was suspicious of what's the cat's name that's over the caged muscle guy. Okay, I don't know who his name, but I know who he's talking about.

You know what I'm talking about, right? I can't even think of his name right now. Tattoo's Mohawk, like he can't, he was featured in it quite a bit. And when they started making the case for different types of creatines, that's when I went like, okay, here we go. And that's, he makes a case for his creatine in it towards the end of the, okay, I wonder if he's tied to that.

Crayotein is a wonderful case example of how the supplement industry will take a product that is a blockbuster, and then branch off of it to continue to sell you off of the blockbuster itself. So like, creatine was one of the first supplements that actually built muscle. It was, I mean, besides protein, right? Like protein helps build muscle if you eat a high protein diet. And one of the ways protein powders can help

is if you can't get up all that protein through time. They even tell the story on how Bill Phillips first came up with creating. And it's what's the, what's the bodybuilder's name? It's a, he's Russian, Milo, Milo or Milo. Search of? No, Milo, no, no, no, no, I'll think of it. Anyways, old Russian bodybuilder guy. He's not old, but older build a Russian Russian bodybuilding guy

He came over from Russia and was giving Bill Phillips injectable Creatine and said that you know told them all the benefits of. And then this other company sends over an example of a powdered form. And he tells him, Bill Phelps says to him like, man, if this was an powdered form, this would go bananas, right? Do you have it? No, we don't have it, so we inject it over there. So that was the end of the conversation.

And then that company sends the powdered form to him. It sits under his desk for like a year. Wow. Doesn't even use the creases. That was his blockbuster. Oh, it was. Oh, yeah, it was everything. It exploded and went getting both. Well, again, Crateen is a great example because here's a supplement that actually worked

that was legal, that had no negative, necessarily negative side effects or whatever. And so at first when he first sold it, it was expensive because he was the only one that had it. Oh, yeah. Then everybody started producing it, and so companies are always trying to figure out how can we jump on this bad way? So they started coming out with different versions,

and they would sell the different version, like, creatine citrate and mix this better on water, or this is buffered, and this is a different one, and this one doesn't cause blow. And the funny thing is creatine monohydrate. Time release. Yeah, good old fashioned monohydrates, the best form. Yeah, and they kind of, they kind of mentioned that in the, in the show. And then that, then maybe 10 minutes later, they're,

they're also, then they're filming guys making cases for the different types of it's funny because, uh, bill Phillips was the, I want to say the editor of Muscle Media 2000. Yes. We're on the magazine. Right, which was the, that magazine in those days was the black sheep of the fitness space because they talked about steroids. They talked about drugs. They talked about all the crazy sides of the. Well, you actually you want to know what they attribute Bill Phillips doing

the best about as far as his marketing. That was so unique and different. Joe Weeter was the first and brilliant who owned his magazine line had all the bodybuilders but he spoke to the body but he used all he had all the pro bodybuilders yet Arnold you know all the big names body for life was all and what bill Phillips did was introduce it to the masses and they say that he's arguably right Joe Weeder They would give all the credit to in the supplement world as being the OG and original guide to really start to put it on the scene Bill Philips is what took it to what they believed to what today is today. If it wasn't for him, it would still be this niche product

that is just a solid building. He started to make, he would use just kind of models. He would use fit people, not people that necessarily want a competition or were famous in the bodybuilding world. He just used great bodies and physiques. He did two things. He did a supplement review that he would sell as a book,

and it was a review. I own the book of supplements, but it was owned by him. So of course, the products that they had were always at the top, very, very brilliant marketing. Then he had the body for life challenge, which actually reached a lot of everyday average people. And, you know, for all intents and purposes, he got more average people to lift weights

than anything else that that space had done. Well, and that's why they were making the case that he arguably was one of the most important people in this whole story telling is what he did for everybody else besides the group of people that were. But boy, the products changed because I remember the first protein powder, I started taking supplements young, I was 15, maybe 16 years old,

and my dad, he had a weight set, and he had bought one bottle of protein powder, it was the one with weeder, those arms flexed like this, and it was called Muscle Builder, I was the name of it. And so I saw that. No, 5,000 in the end.

No, no, just Muscle Builder. They always added all that in. Old school. And I thought, oh, this is the secret to making a mask. Bloc or whatever. And I started taking it. And really what it was was, it was like dry powdered milk. I mean, it wasn't a lot of ingredients.

It was very basic. It all originated from oval team. Yeah, yeah. Oval team was the first. Oval team was the first one. And when they saw the formula for oval team, it was actually oval team had been around for quite some time. Long time, oval team was like the first like multivitamin.

And when the research came out of what the benefits of it, they tied that to bodybuilding and went like, oh, there's a whole opportunity for a market here. And that's where the first powders came from. So they went into a way isolate, concentrate. They talked all the difference in that. They got into twin labs. They got into, God, who else did they talk about that was really interesting? It was a really good documentary as far as the history goes. Oh, check it out.

How it evolved. Protein powders went from being basically dry milk and then later, milk extract, they didn't want to weigh the plant proteins back then. We're horrible. They were soy protein and it was just basically ground up powder. Soy. Today, where you now can get, you know, like, organifies protein, which is a mix of plants,

which is better. I mean, acid profiles, it tastes really good. It mixes really good. It's come such a long way from the early days of protein. There was a big player too that I was not familiar with that bought up ISOP here, designer, and another one, man. It was a company I never even heard of. They were just to, they bought them. They saw the opportunity.

And they were a company that had dairy farms like, ready. Yeah, so they literally saw the riding on the wall with all these supplement companies But like three of the biggest ones up they already had so they had mitt distribution They had the the market already and delivery system and then now they had the production side of it So they were you know all the way from stem to stern and they just dominate and I'd never even heard of them before But they were just the parent company you You've heard of Isopier Designer,

those were all twin labs, those were all very good. Yeah, Designer was the first big way protein. And they were the first ones to really market it in a different way than just attracting bodybuilders. Like back then it was science-y looking or it was bodybuilder looking, we're very sex appeal with muscle twin lab look and then all of a sudden they do this like very colorful for everybody. or very sex appeal with muscle twin lab look,

and then also they do this very colorful for everybody. Oh, and those days it was the supplements were like flinstone vitamins, or you went to, you bought, you went to these herbal health shops, and you would get supplements there, but most people didn't, it was like health fanatics that did it, or like you said, Adam,

it was like the muscle building space. Today, you know, a huge segment of the supplement market when you count all supplements is the average person trying to improve their health or skin tone or, you know, fat loss or, you know, energy, sleep, whatever. It's a massive market. I hope it remains the way it's currently regulated, which is not regulated like medicine they've talked about. They talk about it in the documentary, too. That would be a terrible, what it's just been doing.

Once they got into Costco, right? What company was that? They got into Costco, like really? E-A-S. Yes, yes, yes. E-S got into Costco. You know, they even share, like, so when Joe Weeter was coming up,

there was two other guys that were on the East Coast that were simultaneously Growing in the same time which had a lot to do with war Tim twin lab came from so twin lab was like just as was was a growing You know East Coast business that ended up rivaling Joe You know what supplement for twin lab was just the just crushed. Yeah, it was rip feel rip you rip feel it was the first It was the first a fedra supplement. Yeah, so they rip. Rip fuel. Rip fuel. It was the first, it was the first to Fedra supplement. Yeah. So they introduced to Fedra into the market. That's what blew up. Bill Phillips introduced creating. That's what that blew up.

So that's all speed stack is with that too, right? The original one. Yeah. The Twin Labs was the first to drop the Fedra. And you know, they have a lot of people that they interview that are talking on the show, that are talking about their experience when they were younger, like you share, like when you they have a lot of people that they interview that are talking on the show that are talking about their Experience when they were younger like you share like when you first in and they're like, oh my god, this should get you shredded because you were like Flucking on one. Well, you're appetizing running in place. You're appetizing gone and you're in your in your hype You're stimulated. It's definitely a terrible long-term approach and it doesn't have as its own

It's own problems, but yeah, you remember, you remember what they use a Fedra for? You know, if you go to the, okay, so pseudo-fedrin is the synthetic form of a fedrin, right? A fedra in these supplements came from an herb called Mahuang, which is a Chinese herb. And what they, if you go to the store right now, if you go to the, you know, your pharmaceutical store or whatever, and you go to buy, over the counter drugs you go to the pharmaceutical store or whatever, and

you go to buy over the counter drugs and you go buy Sudafet, Sudafet is the synthetic version of a Fedra, Sudofedran. Do you know these to make meth? That's right, that's why you gotta give your driver's license. Every time you go buy a box of Sudafet. I mean, I've tried. So that's the shit that they make meth into. So yeah, you're not taking meth, but you're using its distant cousin,

and that's what it feels like. You're, oh, you're hyped, you're not hungry. And you lose weight, you lose teeth too, and a lot of other things. You lose teeth. You know what I'm saying? I know, I went through a whole, it's fine.

Yeah, I went through a period of using that all the time. Yeah, I know, it was really crazy just seeing the whole evolution of the supplement industry. Yeah, it's so crazy. It's been pretty well. So crazy. Anyway, you's so crazy. It's been pretty well. So crazy. Anyway, the other weekend when we were up in the house, up in

Trucking, I got the opportunity to hang out with Doug, because we were in the car for a long time. And we were talking a lot about a lot of different subject, but we started talking about training. And Doug started just recently utilizing good old trigger sessions found in Maps and Obolic consistently. And we're talking about it's like, man, I always get blown away at just how well they work,

which motivated me to start using them again. And I mean, really using them two, three times a day on the off days, the days you're not doing your hard workouts every time I do them. I still to this day think that that is on the off days, the days you're not doing your hard workouts, every time I do them, blows. I still to this day think that that is one of the most, this universal revolutionary training things that came out of maps that I still think people

still have yet to really grab onto. I think it's challenging because you have to do it so often. You know what I mean? Well, that's what you just have to have bands that you tote around with you. If you've got them around and you've got the good habit of like, hey, when I'm watching TV or I have a break from work or working on a computer

and you start to incorporate it. But we were, I think we were talking and promoting it a lot more when we first started. We just haven't mentioned it that often. I mean, I feel like we gotta remember that. You know, there's obviously a big portion of the audience listening right now that aren't even familiar with what probably trigger sessions are. Yeah. So what's funny to me is so maps and a ball like is our most popular in terms of

just numbers program. Most people or most of our program sales or small majority is. Well, we encourage them to start there. It is, and a lot of people love it, great results, and all that stuff. But a big portion of those people have never consistently used trigger sessions, which is in the program. They have no idea what they're missing. It's one of those things that,

okay, so here's a trigger session, if you don't know what that is, right? Trigger sessions are low intensity workouts, eight to 10 minutes long. What you're doing is you're trying to get a pump in the muscle, you're feeling a little bit of a burn. I don't even like calling them workouts because then I think people think of it like,

oh, it's like a scheduled workout. I gotta do, it's even less than that. It's like you're spinning. You're spinning it, it's gonna get reps out. Yeah, you're spinning eight to 10 minutes, literally, at most, just trying to send blood, just get some blood into your muscles and calling it, it quits. You're not trying to send blood, just get some blood into your muscles and calling it a quits.

You're not trying to break a sweat, you're not trying to feel the burn and make it really hard. It's like you get a little pump and you're done. That's all you have to do. That's it, and you do it a few times a day. So you want to do it really frequently, two or three times a day. On the days that you don't do your heavy lifting.

So if it's today's an off day, well, that's the day I'm going to do the trigger sessions. And do this one, just do it once or twice. That's it. Once or twice, you'll see what I mean. Immediately, you notice kind of this all day pump that you feel in your muscles. And then what, give yourself two weeks and watch what happens with the fat loss. It's one of the, like the fastest, I notice composition changes in a short period of time is from doing the easy trigger session, so Doug motivated me, I started doing them again, and it's again,

blows me away every single time. I always notice how better I recover when I do it, that speeds up my recovery time when I'm doing that in between my heavy lifts. Yeah, and it's that the biggest difference. And I think the challenge is what you're saying, people think it's a workout, I have to have access to a gym or weights.

It's easy, go easy, bring bands with you, do them throughout the day. And then just, What I needed to do is what I did at my other house. So the other house I had, I had set it up in my living room where it was on the, like I had a closet door, like right where our living room in the TV and everything was. And I just had them hanging, hanging there. So I had to see it all the time. So it was like, if I was watching TV

or I caught myself sitting there for a few hours, I'd get up and just do some chest flies. This rubber band, I would take, so they have that where you can put it in the door. Yeah, you know, Anchor, and I use it all the time. I have it like that, like at a closet or upstairs. I have it like in the pantry. And so I'm just like doing that while I'm kind of

waiting around. And I used to be real consistent with that. But yeah, it is one of those things. You just got to remember, oh yeah, like this, this is really beneficial, like totally would energize, you know, the rest of my workouts to going back to you. And I didn't, I mean, you know, it was in the first program, right? And it's like I invented it. It's, it was versions of it have been used for a long time. You look at, uh, the Soviet athletes used versions of this kind of used for a long time. You look at the Soviet athletes used versions of this kind of thing. I've heard other bodybuilders call them feeder sets

where they're doing them in between workouts to give themselves a better pump. Grease in the groove. Grease in the groove, or you've heard that term, or people how they work out in prison. Sometimes in prison you don't have access to, so what do they do? They do push-ups.

Little pump sessions. Yeah, throughout the day, right? And pull-ups throughout the day and they get phenomenal results. And then that reminds me, we were also listening to a podcast with Pavel. Pavel, how do you say his last name? He said, Suene. He was talking about the Soviet training technique that where, you know how normally you'll work out and then as you get stronger you progress.

They're like, oh, add five pounds, add five pounds, add five pounds or whatever. He said a very effective Soviet training technique was to pick a weight and Use that same weight, same rep, same weight until it gets really really easy. So first week it's challenging. Next week, even though you think you could do more, do the same. Next week, you feel like you could do way more, do the same. When you feel like you could do a substantial jump in weight, that's when you add the weight. So instead of adding five pounds here and there, wait until you think you can add 20 or 30 pounds.

He's focusing more on the skill. Yes. And like really learning that, like with the CNS and like being able to respond, like at a higher level. Yeah, and if you research this technique, I can't remember the name, they have names for it, this type of training. It was one of the reasons why the Soviets dominated everybody and weightlifting. Yeah, and if you research this technique, I can't remember the name, they have names for it, it's type of training. It was one of the reasons why the Soviets dominated everybody and weight lifting. Yeah. For so long. Was that technique right there? So, really, really cool. Anyway, so, uh, biggest loser. We gotta talk about it. Oh, we gotta talk about it. We said we're gonna watch it and do we all watch it? Uh, we did. We did. So what did you guys think? Uh guys think You know here's the thing that I I noticed I'm gonna start off with the

The positive thing right like I hadn't so I haven't watched this in almost a decade Maybe longer actually Because it was the first couple seasons of around for a while long time. Mm-hmm. It's been around for a long time now in fact Yeah, let's see how many seasons they've done. Yeah, that'd be interesting. I would get, I'm guessing 15 years. Maybe more. Yeah, probably more. Maybe more. I guess is 15.

We'll see. And I know it's been about a decade since I've watched it. And one of the things that, you know, I noticed right away watching it was how much, you know, even someone who's not a fan of the show, how much I get sucked into it. They do an incredible job of casting the people that are gonna be on the show. So the biggest loser contestants, they do an incredible job doing that.

And they do an incredible job of editing and sucking you in emotionally. Oh yeah. And I don't know if it's the new dad of me now or what, but I felt myself like holding back tears a few times. I'm like, am I really getting pulled into this thing right now, how long has it been around? Oh, since 2004?

Yeah, it looks like that. Wow, that's a long time. That's a long-running show. Yeah, it definitely has that emotional draw. Like I've been like, they do a great job of storytelling throughout the whole thing. And I think that's, I mean, that's really what even I caught, like Courtney was kind of watching a little bit, like, because I was like, I gotta watch this, you know, for the show and like give my

fair analysis of it. And, you know, I'm already sort of like looking at, of course, the trainer and everything else that everybody's doing doing, but the storytelling in there and all the different types of people in their backgrounds, it's very, you're very much sucked into that. I felt like immediately emotionally pulled and I'm like, oh, I felt like, just got wrenching things sometimes with some of these people's back stories.

This is what it feels like watching the biggest loser as a trainer, right? Somebody I've worked with, we've all worked with people for decades and worked with lots of lots of clients We've been doing this for for a while. Lots of them that are just like these. Well a lot of them are just like some people on On this show and it's it's it would be like if let's say you're a Navy seal or a green beret in real world and you go out and you do these operations and you do real shit and then you watch Rambo It's like that like you're watching Rambo. You see the guy with the bow and arrow shoot down a helicopter and Part of you is like fucking

Bullshit, this is not up, but then you got to just got us take a step back and enjoy the entertainment Great. That's how I felt watching the biggest loser. It is a pure entertainment base It is it is exceptionally entertaining. Do not watch it for information on how to work out or eat right or any of that stuff because you're not gonna get it. They're not learning anything they're gonna take with them that's possible.

No, the way that people are being trained, the way that they're talking to them, very entertaining, very fun to watch. It would be, if you did that in the real world as a trainer, your long-term success with your clients would be terrible. But absolutely. And here's the thing that really bugs me or the part that I have a hard time with,

I think watching it is the first example, the guy who gets eliminated the first guy get eliminated. Not fair. So he's, I forgot about that part, like the eliminate people is like oh shit right So the first guy gets eliminated right and you know, then they asked the coaches you know afterwards like oh What do you know? What do you think and then they kind of give their response of like you know I've got to step up and just be a better coach or you know whatever

But the reality is like there's a couple things going on here one He's a 400 pound X-athlete football player. So at high level, he was a college. Yeah, high level. So he is trained probably very intense in his life in the past, and he's also probably built a lot of muscle that he has. And we've talked about muscle memory

and how your body will respond. If you're somebody who is trained like probably he trained for a long time, his body will probably respond to the weights a lot faster than everybody else's, meaning from just lifting a little bit of weights, he'll probably build a little bit of muscle mass. And then also, because he's trained intense and hard for so many years in his past, his body is more adapted to that type of training than somebody who is completely foreign to that. So the fact that he lost is no surprise to me.

Like, the only reason why I may not have guessed him is because he had such a big weight discrepancy, but since they do the percentage of weight, that you have to lose a lot of weight. Right, he'd have to lose a significant amount of weight. So it was inevitable that he was probably going to be the first one eliminated. And then, of course, Bob and the trainers,

they're kind of baffled by this. What could it be? What do we do next? He gained muscle. That's what I think. Because he had that muscle memory, was an ex football player, even though they were doing circuits,

which is not very conducive for muscle building, you take somebody who had a lot of muscle at that level, loses it all, and they can do almost anything and they'll gain muscle at twice the road. Right. And if he's also been somebody who's trained intensely for many, many years, his body is more adapted to that than somebody who never has. You take two people that are exact same way obese 400 pounds. One of them is an ex-athlete played sports.

The other one is not sure the the one that played sports has the mental advantage because they've pushed themselves to limits and so maybe they can have a higher gear to push them but they're at a disadvantage metabolically because of how many times they've probably trained that way in the past versus the person who's 400 pounds never done that before. So there's a very obvious reason why stuff like this happens. Meanwhile, the approach or the training approach. Now, for winning the show, it makes the most... And I...

If you wanna win, how long does the timeframe be? I believe that, yeah, I think it's, I think we've got to be done. I think it is eight weeks, I want to, I'm guessing. Eight or 12 weeks probably, I'm guessing. But I know that they have two sessions a day of training. I don't know if they're limited to the time, if it's an hour or two hours, the exact limit that they have. But basically, I know they have somewhere between two

and four hours of exercise a day that they're allotted, right? So in that time, we know that running and circuit training is going to burn the most amount of calories per se. The problem with that is, you know, after doing this with them for a week or two, and we'll see this as the show progresses, it's going to get harder and harder for them because their body is going to quickly adapt to that high intensity and then the weight loss will slow down. It's also just 30 weeks. It's also just a... Wow, 30 weeks.

Yeah, it's 30 weeks and they're beating the crap out of them. They're restricting their calories really low and that will cause a lot of weight loss. But the training is very inappropriate. First episode, you see several people throw up. They're throwing up in buckets. Yeah, if you're, oh my God, like just for me, like that to me is like the most cringeworthy part of the show that I have to like address that,

like that mentality, like to me, it just screams like a bad relationship of exercise going forward from then on out. Yeah, they're being punished. The motivation is very much, you can do, you're never gonna be fat again. And if you train, if you're a trainer in the real world and you make your client throw up, you fucked up.

Yeah. Really bad, you did a bad job, you trained them inappropriately. That's not a good thing at all. So the training is inappropriate for long-term success but for short-term entertainment and short-term winning this weight loss contest in 30 weeks It's very appropriate, right the same thing with the diet So you have to look at it through that And this is what I struggle with because then you the first guy gets eliminated and then like you know part of the show

What they do is because obviously this was filmed earlier, right? So they they give you what he's been doing for the last six months. So during the whole filming of the show, when someone gets knocked off the show, they still have a film crew that follows them and doesn't update on them. And I know they do this obviously

to make it continually to stay inspiring and motivating, but you hear him talk about it. And he, over that course of those six months, he was down I think another 48 pounds, right? Which is still way far from where his goal is. He has done that through double days of training every day. He's just been ramping up his intensity. Right. And he went through a three week plateau

of where he didn't move whatsoever. And then the way he talks about it is all about motivation for his son. And so we're playing on all these heartstrings of, you know, it's all about push and motivation and do it for your family and do it so you don't die. And it's driving into this, you know, hardcore mentality of pushed. It's about well dries up. Well, exactly. mentality of pushed it's that well dries up well exactly and eventually would ends up happening to these people is you end up putting all the way back on and

and the statistics on it are crazy it's like yeah within the first five years they like 80% but that's not what the next 10 years and sometimes the people and the that make the five year mark I know Erica's on five years now that she's been that she hasn't. A lot of those people, they've had the mental discipline to keep that up, like they're still training, double days, they're still doing it. But here's the thing, that's not the secret to success.

No, it's, and heavily that you fall off of that. You're one tragic thing in your life that happens of putting it right on the edge. Right, yes, yeah. There's your one hard, hard, rough injury, tragic thing in your family away from letting that all, and then when it comes on this next time, it fucking comes on fast. Yeah. And for some people, for a very small percentage, that is the key, is that hardcore, discipline

and motivation. But the vast majority of people, it completely fails exactly for what you're talking about, Adam, you can't be in that mental state all the time. And you wanna look at the environment of a show like this. You're leaving your home, you're not working, you're on TV, the pressure. You're completely in a bubble. You've got a trainer there, you're working with the team.

It is so different from your regular life. Then when you go back to your right, see the secret to long term success is how do I- Creature. Yeah, how do I integrate this into my life to where I can maintain this and keep it up and develop these good relationships? The show doesn't do that, but it is very entertaining

and I'll tell you what, I think, who do you think's gonna be the winner? And I don't mean the winner on the show, but I mean which trainer do you think is going to become the most successful from the show? Oh, well, we said that Erica would be that we knew Erica would be that way. America is going to love air. Oh, great story. She's so likable. She connects so well.

So more empathetic with everybody there and has this sort of like, you know, like it went through the same kind of an experience. So therefore, you know, they're more responsive to that. But yeah, she just has more of that emotional pull, which is the whole show is about that, you know. And to see, you know, Steve Cook, or whatever on the other end of it, it just looks, it's completely different from him,

trying to hammer his way through everybody and get that like coaching discipline, you know, established. Yeah, have you guys done this yet? Where do you think to yourself like, okay, how would I do this if I was on the show? How would I do, how would I both win the contest but also do it in a way to where I'm communicating things with integrity?

You brought that up and I said, you it's not possible. It's a warm environment. And you think it's, not only do I think it's impossible, but I also think that you, what you would try to do wouldn't get aired. Probably. Yeah. So you would just fuck yourself anyways. You go in with boring. I'm smart enough to win this and teach them. Like get the fuck out of here. No, you're not. You're going to get cream, bro. What'll end up happening is you're going to try to do the right thing. You because here's how are you going to how are you going to keep these people motivated?

Well, what I'm saying is you drive through these circuit workouts while you're also telling them, hey, in the real world, I would never train you like this. I think it would be conversations, but you're right. They wouldn't air it. There's no way. It wouldn't be fun. It wouldn't be exciting. And you would also, you got to think right now that everybody is, is throttling down on the emotional button on these people. It's all about your diet. You're going to die. It's all about your 10 weeks. That's the way you're going to win. Right. 30 week period. Right. So, but if you're going to communicate to them that, hey, in the real life, this is how you should be training. I mean, if you let them in on that secret,

you know, that this is not the way to do it. Who the fuck in the right mind is still going to be motivated if they're so motivated about staying alive longer or changing their lives. And you're telling them the real way to change their lives is not this way, but hey, to win this competition, we're hey to win this competition We're gonna do this like yeah, right? Well the reality is if they had a contest like this Like let's say it was like the biggest loser but real like good trainers and appropriate training and good diet in a 30-week period Be boring. Maybe so boring. It would be boring. It would be boring. And here you how about this? Oh, he's stretching on you know Who wins walking who wins the biggest award for me

after watching episode one is Planet Fitness. Oh wow. Planet Fitness gets the big W on this cause let me tell you, not only are they fucking 2000, you know 2000 locations now. Wow. So not only are they exploding and they got their hands into this show, but they're also, is their demographic right here. Oh, yeah

These are the people we don't this exactly who they want the people sponsor the the New Year's Eve ball drop everything and then now they're sponsoring this show They're outfitting it with all the equipment We want the people that are gonna come for the free pizza. Yeah, try to work out hard for a little while give the fuck up But still keep paying their membership. That is their clientele, man. They are literally marketing beautifully. By the way, this is- Hey, you tried it, good job. Now, keep paying me. This is not a dig on people who sign up there.

And you know, look, whatever gets you in, and it makes you feel better, and you're trying things, that's a very, very good thing, and all hard it is to get started. But the business model for gyms for a long time, and planet fitness is the best at this. You can tell by their pricing structure, they're very, very low price, lots, lots of gyms, and you think to yourself, how can a gym profit?

Because they're expensive to run. People don't realize how expensive a gym is. Very expensive. To run and put together, millions of dollars get started, lots of money and paying staff, it's a big facility. How do they make a profit when they're charging 15 bucks a month or 10 bucks? Right, and only 500 people are allowed to fit in here at once. Exactly, you have a lot of volume,

a lot of volume of people that pay a very small percentage of them actually use the gym. Because if everybody who had a membership came to use the gym, it wouldn't have enough room. So the model literally is to target people who will initially sign up, but then that come. That's the perfect model. That's a perfect. And part of that is how do we keep them paying but not coming? Right. I got an idea. Let's throw them free pizza once a month.

So when they go like their value, they go, wait a second, I had four slices of pizza this month. That's $10. Like, fuck it. I'm not going gonna stop paying for this because if I want my money's worth all you do is swing by on Fridays, grab a slicer to a pizza and it warrants my $10 a month. And it's fucking brilliant. And when you sit there and I know this, I know this because 24-fitness, although was far more expensive when I was there,

they still kind of had a little bit of this model. And it's when you're sitting at home going through your finances and you're looking, oh, we need to save some money. And then you go, what about this $10 a month gym membership? It's 10 bucks, it's not that much. You know what, I really should go. I paid a little bit of a joining fee.

Let's just keep it. And it's only $10. What is that? Two coffees, not a big deal. And so they keep a shit ton of people who never use their gyms and it's like pure profit. Yeah. And it's low enough to where it's like the idea that they're still have a gym membership is just all they wanted anyways You know it's like oh I still I'm still a member. Yeah, so funny

So along the lines of brilliance schemes. This is an old one But I had to share this with you guys. I don't know what I was doing. I came across This article and then I just of course went down the rabbit hole started reading more about it, but it was on Allstate. And Allstate did this in 2015. It was called the mayhemcell.com. Did you guys know anything about that?

Mayhem Sale? Yeah, mayhem Sale. No, because I've seen their commercial where it's like preventing you from mayhem and he does like crazy shit. Yeah, what about the dude that? So super low voice. So that's Justin's hitting it on the head.

That's who that is. And the way they launched this campaign. So this campaign ran in 2015 and it was don't over share in social media. So the idea of the campaign was that if they're insurance company, right, is to tell people that, hey, you know, right now we're in this new social media world

where everyone's sharing things like that, you can get robbed easily. And so what they did was they set somebody up. They ran it during the Rose Bowl. So during like when all the everyone's watching the game stuff. And what they did was they reached out to somebody, told them that they won two tickets to the Sugar Bowl.

Sugar or Rose Bowl, one of those. They give these people the tickets to the whole event. Sugar or Rose Bowl, one of those. They give these people the tickets to the whole event, they're all excited, they go there, and of course they're tweeting, they're at the Rose Bowl, they're all excited. So what all of a say did, because they were already paying for advertising, for commercials and stuff on the show,

they ran a commercial. First, what they did was put up a fake profile of these people using their social media, showing that they're at the game and they're not home for burglars to go get their stuff, then they staged all of their stuff that's in their house and they sold it online and then they broadcasted it live

in the stadium and on TV for people to see. So these people who are watching their shit get sold. It was this big thing. To show how easy it was. To show how easy it was to rob them, sell all their shit online, and then all while they're at the game having fun, telling everybody that they're not home, right? They can't do anything about it. So it went so viral that all state, like, made millions and millions of dollars, the website got like some of the most traffic ever by a

website before. I didn't even know I did that. I didn't know that either. Do you ever think to yourself sometimes that these brilliant marketers just give people more, like more criminals better idea? Sure. Wait a minute. Yeah. That sounds like a good idea.

I think that was just brilliant marketing from all state, seeing that that was something that was happening already. Because I do remember, you know, people saying things like that, like hey, be careful how much you share on Facebook, showing your location all the time, and stuff like that, because- Post it when you get home. Right, right, so be careful of doing things like that.

And I think all states saw that there was growing awareness of that, and they just accelerated it by doing a campaign like this, which was crazy, hilarious, all this, how brilliant. Dude, that's so smart, man. crazy, hilarious, all this, how brilliant. That's so smart, man. Do you guys remember that one company that would protect like your identity? I don't remember the name of it.

And the CEO to prove how awesome his company is, because we do you hire them, and their job is to protect you against identity theft. So the CEO to prove his point, posted his social security number on trucks and billboards and he's like I'm not afraid because I have because my company anyway got it stolen like a bunch of dying. Painting a bunch of hackers did have added serious only backfire.

You can't steal my identity and they did. They did a bunch of times. Oh my god. It was so funny. That did not, did not. I deserve that. Anyway, dude, so I've been getting this study that came out. You guys remember a while ago, I was like four years ago, we were talking about what new trends we saw in the future for fitness and I was talking about how, oh, it's a matter

of time before they start to demonize protein. Protein is going to be the targeted macronutrient next. And basically the reason why I predicted that was because I went off of the carbs and fats were done. So what's next protein? But it's only a matter of time before protein. Now the whole vegan movement is anything else. And then I saw the vegan movement and I said, Oh, here we go. It's because one of the criticisms against a vegan diet is that it's hard to get a lot of protein.

Right. So let's like say that protein really isn't that necessary. And that's their defense is that it's not and to some truth to that right because they're right. Well, the message has been that we need so much of it. And then they're like, you really don't need that much of it. Well, the first the first thing that the vegans tried to do was say, Oh, you can get lots of protein through vegetable sources. And then they realize, well, this isn't working very well. Yes, it's actually pretty hard. Because really protein sources from animal sources are easier, they're better on a gram per gram basis, and all that stuff.

So then the next stage, of course, was, let's attack protein. So they're finding studies to show that protein may be bad for you. And this new one came out. It says that high protein diets could increase heart attack risk. Well, you have to understand, by the way, when you read these titles, is could. Could is the operative term. And so in these studies, they find that

high amounts of protein stimulate something called mTOR, mammalian target, repamycin, which is something that is a part of muscle growth. It's not a bad thing, but in certain contexts, it can be a bad thing. For example, in a pro-cancer context, high mTOR could stimulate cancer cells. In a high inflammatory, high calorie, shitty diet context, lots of mTOR could prevent mitophagy and could actually increase the risk of heart disease and issues like that. So that's what these studies are showing, which isn't really groundbreaking.

High anything in the context of a high inflammatory, high calorie diet can be bad, like high fat, like high carbs, but this is the latest one now. So now they're gonna start saying, too much protein, bad for the heart, too much protein, can cause cancer and all this stuff, can't wait. Can't wait for this to start. I wonder if, you know, I will have to talk to Organifi

and see if they feel a difference by stuff like this, if they can even notice or if it's just, sometimes I wonder if this is kind of like the alarmist strategy thing that we talked about before where they'll take one person who's like crazy that's saying something and then make it like a big deal where it's like, no, I think at the end of the day most people understand the importance of getting protein when it comes to building muscle. There's plenty of research around that

So are we gonna fall for this demonizing it as it or is it just a few people that are alarmists that are trying to say that or a few people that are trying to Defeat a Defend veganism that are saying it and really the majority of it. It's so funny how predictable it is It's just like they're gonna go from onerient to the next and they just keep, it's like a cyclical thing because it's like that way you can sell specific products and you know, divert people from this way of doing things to now like we're gonna jump on to this way of doing things. And it's just like a matter of, you know, a few studies that will, they'll try and like,

yeah, vilify whatever it that they'll try and vilify whatever it is they're trying to vilify so everybody jumps on board. Well demonizing fat and protein is funny to me because they're essential. Well, and yeah, it's hard to have them. To me, proteins, we have an imbalance. It's a hard one, especially in the muscle building

fat loss community. I mean, when I was watching that documentary, that is the one thing that, like of all the things to make a case for that have value. It's you know the protein powder Just because a majority of people struggle with getting enough protein, especially if you're weightlifting So if you're if you're weightlifting and you're also dieting to get in enough protein intake on a regular basis unless you're a You know the the 1% the bodybuild builder who carries around six chicken breasts a day. If you're the average Jane or Joe

and you're getting into exercise and fitness, one of the most valuable supplements that you can get your hands on is a protein. Which I would say, yeah, most people, so they're trying to vilify a protein, but that 1% is like your gym bro, it's like your body builder, it's like those are the people that are the ones

that would even fall in that category of like overuse. Right, yeah. And it's not even a thing. And again, context matters. I'll even go on the reverse. Sugar, right? Sugar, we know, has potentially some bad effects on people,

especially when you consume a lot of it. But sugar, even a higher sugar diet, if your calories are low, way less dangerous for your body, causes way less problems. And there's even studies that show that it doesn't cause any issues in the context of a low inflammatory low calorie type of diet. So, bit now, when you calories are really high, if you're eating more calories than you need and you're constantly in that state where your body's gaining body fat, you can have a great diet made up of healthy foods and you're still going to have some health issues and high protein or high fat or high carb in the context of a lot of calories.

Each one of those, I could show problems and issues. So context makes big difference. You got to pay attention to that. Right. We call... I'm going to plan everything. Max... Qua... Today's Qua was brought to you by Max and Obolic. If you're looking to maximize your overall muscle and strength, Max and Obolic is the perfect place to start. With a full 30-day money back guarantee, there is absolutely zero risk.

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I work out four to five times a day, take fish oil, and stay hydrated throughout the day. Am I doing something wrong? Four to five times a day? That's probably what it says. I'm sure he was a typo, I hope so, because then maybe that's why you're joining through. That explains everything right there.

You might be working out too much to back off the workouts. Here's the places that I would look with clients who had pain, chronic pain in their joints. By the way, there's two general types of pain. There's the chronic variety. This is where my knee's been hurting.

It's been bothering me on and off for the last five years. And there's the acute variety where it's like, my knee hurts, yesterday I twisted it. So I'm actually injured. So I'm going to assume that this person, and they says always seem to be hurting. Yeah, chronic. Has the chronic variety.

So the first place I would look at is movement. Always. You know, your joints will last you your lifetime. And they'll feel relatively good your whole life. If they're moving optimally, there is an optimally supported. That's right. If they're moving in optimal way, then they should be doing pretty well. It's like, you know, it's reminding me of a story. So, you know, years ago when I bought my first house,

there were some doors that were hung, I had to remodel the whole house, but there were some old doors that didn't change. And the doors just kept making sounds and noises every time I'd open and close them, I'd grease them up and they'd keep doing it. Finally, I had my dad come over to look at it and he goes, well, the way that these things are hung,

the joints, the hinges are being stressed more than they should be. And this is the reason why they're grinding and making all this noise and why the door is in opening and closing the way it is, we have to set this up so that the hinges work optimally. Okay, so that's like your joints. If your joints are moving in sub-optimal ways, they are going to cause, they are going to have pain over time.

So poor mobility is always the first place that I look when I would have a client. Well, and to that point, taking supplements for it is like oiling it. So it's fixing the squeak for the moment, but it's still not fixing the root cause. So if you're going to use supplements to help aid that, which I think is there's definitely value in that, but you can't stop there. You can't just take your fish oil, take your tumor, take something like that. And then that thing that resolves the problem. The problem is in the way your body is moving. And this is, you know, this is where Maps Prime Pro came from. I mean, this is why we created this. It's designed to address every major joint in the body. There's a test for it to see if how you do. There's movements connected to it that you should do to perform better mechanics and

to support that joint. Yeah, this is where the conversation of posture really comes into play. Really understanding how to line yourself up and stack your spine properly to where everything Yeah, this is where the conversation of posture really comes into play and like really understanding how to line yourself up and stack your spine properly to where everything is in an optimal position. So what does that even look like to start? A lot of times people don't even put that kind of work in before then trying to go through these movements and put stress on them by adding weight.

So it is one of those things like or over time, it's something that was very subtle, very, very subtle angle or something that was a little less optimal that over time, the volume of it has created this pain and created this signal of your body of like wear and tear. And so to be able to come back and address it, really need to dive into that specific joint, how it's functioning, what your end ranges are, how much strength you can connect to, so how connected are you in rotating it, moving it, getting flexion extension, and seeing what the quality of that is, and then really staying there and trying to express that even further.

Think of it this way. Think of a sliding screen door or a sliding glass door. And when you look under the door, there's a track. And then there's the door glides along that track. And typically there's like a little wheel that it glides on. And if the door is balanced, it'll slide back and forth on that track. And it'll do pretty well for a while. Now imagine if that door, there was pressure

on that sliding door pushing it back. There's just enough pressure to push it back to where, rather than balancing right on the track, it's grinding a little bit on the side because there's a little bit of pressure there. Now initially you might not notice the problem. You slide the sliding glass door or the screen on and off. You don't notice the problem,

but over time because that door is not balanced in moving perfectly or optimally on that track, over time you start to create problems. The wheel starts to grind. It starts to roll and properly. And over time you start to cause problems. This is what happens to your joints. Now oftentimes it's not the joint itself, that's the problem. Oftentimes, if your knee hurts, it's not because the muscles on the round the knee aren't doing what they're supposed to. Oftentimes, it's because surrounding joints are moving properly and your knee joint is just compensating.

It's just doing more than it should, more than it needs to, and this can cause lots of issues. So that's the first place that I would always look and I had a lot of success with this. I would say 70% or 80% of the time, I could successfully get someone's joint pain to get a lot better just through working mobility. There is a diet component too though.

I noticed this with myself when my diet is poor and it's in an inflammatory diet if I drink a lot of alcohol or a lot of processed foods or I'm not well hydrated, I can also start to feel stiff and start to feel pain. And it starts to feel strict. And it causes more pain and I think that lowering that inflammation is something to consider. Right. And then you have this like this feedback loop where it's like, okay, I'm stiff because

I'm eating foods that promote inflammation in my body. Sometimes it's a food intolerance. Other times it's just a general overall bad diet. Now, because I'm stiff, because of that, I'm moving it away to try to avoid that pain, but now I'm creating movement patterns that are also not ideal. So now I'm actually causing joint pain.

So then you get this kind of spiraling effect that causes more and more pain over time. Well, that's the value of the supplements, right? That's the value of using something to help aid bring down inflammation so you then can go put in the work. Yes. It's like foam rolling like we talked about, too. It's like, you're alleviating something temporarily right now, but it doesn't mean you're

not fixing the problem. So in order to fix the problem, you have to go to the movement, but there is value in using tools like that to bring down. Yes. Now, when it comes to working with inflammation, trying to bring it down through taking something, you have the really strong over-the-counter drug options, which are the non-staroidal anti-inflammatories like ibuprofen is a good example. Alive, you know, naproxen is another good example. Now, the problem with those is that they block inflammation. They don't modulate inflammation. Blocking inflammation, very strong anti-inflammatory effect. Very strong. My pain is, wow, it's way better.

Are you taking a leave or are you taking that heart on the liver too over time? It is. It's not only that though, blocking inflammation can actually promote problems in the future. Studies now show that the chronic use of anti-inflammatory drugs causes joint degeneration or joints to degenerate faster because inflammation is essential to send a signal to your body or as part of the process of the body to repair and heal.

So, and for example, as other studies that show, taking anti-inflammatories like ibuprofen, post-workout reduces the muscle building effect. Yeah. Because you're blocking the signal. You're not modulating it. So inflammation, you want appropriate levels, you don't want it to be gone. I like supplements for this because if you take a supplement, for example, organifies move supplement as a phenomenal for this. I've been using that and I love the way it works. So it has ingredients like high potency tumoric. It's got holy basil in there. It's got pine bark, which contains picnoginal. All of these things have been shown to modulate inflammation. So they don't hammer inflammation like ibuprofen would,

but they help your body produce a more appropriate inflammatory response. Now that being said, if you're not drinking enough water, you're not getting good sleep and you have a really shitty diet, it's like you're putting a bandaid on a problem. It'll help,

but it's not gonna help enough to overcome your poor diet and all that stuff. But if you do work on your diet, if you work on mobility, I do think supplements like organifies move, maybe throw some fish oil on top of that, high doses, if that's appropriate for you. Boy, they can make a pretty substantial difference. I've noticed huge differences in myself,

and then my clients, that's my approach typically is like, okay, we're gonna go mobility, we's my approach typically is like, okay, we're going to go mobility, we're going to look at diet hydration and sleep. That's mobility. And then we're going to throw some supplements that can help with this kind of temporary, high inflammatory state, so that we can move better in our workouts. Next question is from Lean Queen 2019. Can you build muscles that you can't connect to?

That'll rhyme. Queen, Queen 2019. Can you build muscles that you can't connect to? That'll rhyme. Yeah. Well, we need to correct this first, or help be accurate with it. So you're connected to all your muscles. Yeah, so unless you're paralyzed, you are connected to your muscles.

When we refer to poor connection, what we really mean is just a movement pattern that's not conducive to developing that muscle. So we'll use a squat as an example. When you're squatting, you're using a lot of muscles to do that squat. The main movers would be your quads, your hamstrings, and your glutes. There's more muscles in the app with those are the big ones, right? So let's say you're squatting, but the way that your movement pattern is set up,

and maybe you develop this because you sit a lot or you only run or whatever, the movement pattern means that your movement pattern may have more quad doing more of the movement than glutes doing the movement. So now when you do lots of squats, you build big quads, but your glutes don't seem to get that much of a response. This can be true for a lot of exercises, bench press, for example, you may be able to get a really strong bench, but you notice your triceps and your shoulders really get well developed at your chest, doesn't. Changing your movement pattern, or it was like we like to say connecting to the target

muscles better can change how effective that exercise is for your target muscles. So the way she said it is an ideal, but yeah, there's some truth to what you're asking to. Like, if you have a poor connection or you have a less ideal pathway to like your squat and your goal is to build your glutes and your quads are carrying most load, yeah, it makes it, it doesn't make it impossible. It makes it very unlikely that you're going to develop that muscle very much. Like, your glutes are going to work. If you're going to develop that muscle very much. Your glutes are going to work. If you're going to squat, even if you have terrible recruitment pattern, they're still working.

They're getting some work in there. It's just not dominant. If it's not dominant, it's not getting the loudest muscle building signal. The muscle that's most dominant that's taking care of that movement is getting the loudest signal. There's where the body is going to adapt and grow more muscle. So it's not that you're not actually connected to it, we're connected to all the muscles. It's that you're not using it properly through the movements that you should be.

And if you don't address that, then yeah, it's gonna be very challenging for you to try and develop that muscle. In fact, there's camps of people that, you know, anytime they see somebody that has an underdeveloped muscle, they always related to poor connectivity. They don't have a very good... Well, there is a way to consciously recruit more muscle. And I think that's what we speak to that, in being like taking the time out to really try to, you know, like summon more from, you know, neurologically, like to be able to really focus in on trying to activate certain muscles

and get their involvement within the movement. So there is a way to really consciously focus in on that and improve that process, but in turn, we'll help the muscle to develop. Well, and this is the inspiration of MAPS Prime. So we talked the last question, Shameless shamelessly plugged Prime Pro, but that's what that was designed for. You got joint issues, you're trying to address that, you want to figure out the right way to do it, you're not looking just to put a bandaid, you want to fix that chronic pain. That's what Prime Pro is for. If you're looking for to get better connected to certain muscles,

because you have muscle and balances, like most people have, maps prime. That's what priming is for. It's designed to help you get connected to the proper muscles before you go into exercises, and that's why we created it. And that's why there's stand-alone programs because we know that those things are so challenging for people that it should be a program by itself

to figure that out for you. Like, yep, yep. And the people or the athletes, I should say, that are just the best at learning how to connect to muscles besides correctional exercise specialists. They're really good at this for functional purposes. But in terms of just developing and building muscles, bodybuilders, bodybuilders are the experts

of the resistance training world when it comes to figuring out how to connect to a muscle and figuring out how to feel and develop a particular muscle in a particular exercise. And you can watch, really good bodybuilders will do an exercise and you can tell they're targeting the glutes in that leg exercise, they're targeting the quads in that leg exercise. And it is funny, you'll notice this, I don't know if you guys noticed this,

but you'll have clients who, oh, I squat and lunge all the time, but my glutes don't develop well, but what do they have well-developed quads? Or, oh, I bench press all the time, but my chest doesn't develop, and I'm really strong, and you look at them,

well, they have really well-developed shoulders and triceps, you know. I had a client years ago who was a competitive arm wrestler, both hands, he was highly competitive, both right and left. Of course arm wrestlers use a lot of biceps and forearms in their sport. And when we did back exercise,

first off, this guy could pull tremendous amounts of weight in rows, he could do one arm pull ups, but it was all arms. It was all arms when he would do them. So he would do all these rows and stuff and his arms would get bigger and more developed but his back wouldn't get a lot of stimulation. So I had to teach him how to connect to his back with a lot of these exercises. And he had to change his technique

and form and feel completely, even though he's doing the same exercise, just so we could connect to, again, quote unquote, connect to your target, the muscles that we were trying to work. So if you're trying to develop your body, it's not just enough to do the right exercises. You have to do the right exercises the right way. If you don't do the right exercises the right way, believe it or not, the right exercises can be the wrong ones for you. Not only can they be terrible

for developing the muscles you're trying to work, but they can even cause problems. And I'll give you a great example. One of the best exercises for somebody who needs to correct forward shoulder, that's the posture where the shoulders roll forward, is a row, a cable row, for example. Best exercise you could do for forward shoulder.

But if that person is doing the row with just their arms and their shoulders are forward and they're just pulling to their midsection and shoulder state world forward, not only are they not going to get benefits, they're actually going to make their forward shoulder worse, even though it's the right exercise. So it's very important that you do the right exercises the right way. Otherwise, you're not only going to not get results, but you'll probably get the opposite of what you're looking for.

Next question is from just another mic. What are your thoughts on the carnivore diet and how long should you run it? I think if you, you're not just another Mike. If you like ice cream and cake and popcorn and tortilla chips, it's a fucking terrible diet. I mean, if you like any of those things or want any of those things or fruits and vegetables and nuts and Anything else That's not me. I mean, I think it's terrible. It's pretty limiting. Yeah You know do it now. Do I think the science to support the health benefits of all of it like yeah There's a select group of people that are gonna do really really well

Actually, there's probably a big majority of people, if they switch from the American diet and they went to carnivore, they'd see all kinds of health markers improve. And if you're a carnivore advocate that's going around talking about how great it all is, these are the things you're sharing. You're talking about what happens when you take somebody who is on all these foods

and then you put them on all these markers. Oh, yeah, autoimmune issues. You have like, SIBO, you have all these different and then you put them on all these markers. Oh yeah, autoimmune issues. You have like, Cibo, you have all these different like underlying issues and you're limiting it down to one nutrient source that's, you know, pretty manageable. Right, so it's incredible for that. Yeah, I mean, I remember when I was on the ketogenic diet,

I fucking wanted to shoot myself. Yeah, I mean, I can only eat so many macadamia nuts and all the whole butter. It's like key. You're like, what am I doing? You know, it's a lot of fun at first, just like I think if I were to do the carnivore diet, like, I love... Staying four times a day. I love it.

I love burgers. I love ribeye and jackpach. Yeah, but at one point, you know, I want a little bow. So, you know, that's how I feel about the... And here's the thing too. That's not just for this diet. It's for old diets. Yeah, exactly, exactly. And people need to understand that, like this whole diet world is just,

it's designed to divide and conquer all of you. That are, you know, it's like, Wow, yeah, like, I don't understand why they're so adamant about like, like having everybody conform to one specific thing. It doesn't work well. Well, the carnivore diet has all the the makings of a successful marketing wise and fad wise type of diet. So at all the the one extreme it's it eliminates the one food everybody told you was super

healthy or the two foods right. Fruits and vegetables huh. You got my attention now. Yeah, I always hated vegetables. This sounds interesting. It's low calorie, all diets that make you lose weight are low calorie. I don't care what kind of diet you follow,

and why is it kind of our low diet? You've just eliminated almost all food. And eating only one thing, you're probably not gonna eat that much. I don't care what that one thing is. It's gonna be really hard to get calories. That's 100% like what I experienced like going through it too.

Yes. And it's the thing is like you just get like full, you get satiated so you get like all of that going for you. But it's at the end of the day like man, it was a real big challenge to just meet my count. Kailurk needs. It's also basic and simple. And if we're a diet to become successful, marketing wise, it has to be clear and simple. Donate carbs, donate fat, donate vegetables, donate meat, whatever. It's people like that, it's very catchy. Like, oh, I can do that.

I can just eat meat or just eat no carbs or whatever. So it's got all the makings of something that could be successful, marketing wise. Now, as terms of, is it a good diet for people? So there's two things I wanna say about that. of, is it a good diet for people? So it's two things I want to say about that. One, there is no perfect diet for everybody. None. I don't care who you are. First off, there are going to be some people that are going to do well on a carnivore diet. My guess is the vast majority of them have lots of immune reactions to other foods. They have lots of

food intolerances and carnivore diets the ultimate elimination diet where you eliminate most foods that people might have reactions to. So that's the big thing about this particular diet is that some people have a lot of food intolerances. They eliminate that, you know, like Michaela Peterson, great example. She had some legit immune issues and eliminating all those foods made her feel really good. And for her, for her, I have no doubt that this is the best I, but for most people it isn't. The second thing is this,

just because you can do something doesn't mean you should. Because I think there's a lot of people that are like, wow, I only ate meat for a month and I didn't die. And I think, oh, that means it's a good thing. No, not necessarily. I mean, you could eat the typical American diet for, you know, 60 years and not die either. That doesn't mean it's ideal as well.

It's very extreme. There's lots of value to consuming a variety of foods, vegetables and fruits and nuts and even grains have their own values. And some of the values that I think are important that when you eliminate them in a diet like this is the ones that we talk about that aren't just nutritional value.

It's not always just about that. Sometimes like, you know, try being the guy who has to toe around, you know, a tri-tip everywhere you go. And you're at a birthday party or you're at a, you know, a dinner party or you're at a dinner party or you're going over somebody's, having wine and cheese event. And then you're a social leopard.

Right, so, and if those things are important and you like to do that stuff, I think that eliminating that, it becomes really challenging. And so, personally, and we've done it, I've aesthetically, I've been able to keep myself in good shape, running all types of different diets. Now, I haven't done a pure carnivore, although I ran keto, which is close. It's just even less stuff, right? And kept myself in great shape.

So if it's just about getting shape, you could do anything. You could do vegan, you could do keto, you could do zone, you could do, they all could do zone, you could do they all work and have success People and they have a lot of people who are navigating the diet world and they're they want to lose weight or whatever and it's like Oh my gosh, everything's so complicated. What do I do? Do I count macros? Do I count calories? Yeah? This is the least complicated out of all of it. Yeah, say hey dude. Just eat me. You lose weight if you just eat me And it's like I can do that. Yeah, I could totally do that. I think that's where the appeal of it. Yeah, it's like, hey dude, just eat me. You'll lose weight. If you just eat me, and it's like, I can do that. I can totally do that. I think that's where the appeal of it is though.

Yes, I'd be honest, like even for myself, but I'd know there's a short window to it. And again, looking at it from an elimination perspective, I think there's some value to that, but other than that, the other value is that there's a counter to veganism. So I appreciate that from an entertainment value. Yeah, that's really the only thing I can think of.

It's so funny because they're in the same without realizing it. They're on the same. They're like at war. They're in the same camp. They're the same. Yeah, they're so strong. They're both extreme. Next question is from NANDUF 61. How often should you take diet breaks and how long should they last? Okay, so if you're doing everything right,

then there isn't a break. And there isn't a diet. There isn't a diet. Yeah, there isn't a diet either. It's just eating. It's like the scene from the Matrix, you know, when Nioh's waiting in the waiting room for the Oracle for the first spoon.

Yeah, and the kid's bending the spoon with his mind, a little bald kid or whatever, and Nioh's like, you know, kid or whatever, and in the ears like, you know, how do you do that? He's like, I can't do anything. The key is to realize there is no spoon. Oh, yeah. That's really the key to proper eating.

It's to realize that you're not on a diet. It's just how you eat. And what does that mean? That means that sometimes you're going to go to a birthday party or you're going to enjoy yourself with your spouse and you're going to eat food for the sake of its hedonistic value because yes, that is a value for the sake of the enjoying it So sometimes, you know, we just came back from a trip with we all had our families together and you know There were a couple meals that we ate and we drank and the entire value of that meal was hanging out with you guys and

The hedonistic value we were fun to be there. We were at the slope snowboarding. We all had carneasata tacos, chips and guac and beers, because that sounded amazing after riding and burning 3,000 calories. I'm saying I'm going to enjoy that at that time and not worry about it. I'm not taking a break from the diet. It's just, and it is part of your diet.

Right. And I think how I try and help somebody who asks questions like this too is to understand that doesn't mean too that I'm giving you carte blanc to go do whatever the fuck you want. Just eat, well, every time you want bad food, you eat bad food or whatever. And now that I said you can have chips and guac

and beer, you go have chips and walk and beer all the time. There's moments where I make the decision that then there'll be three days before that, where I'll come home from work, and it's been a day where I've been at my desk all day long, I didn't get my workout in this time, and Katrina goes like, hey, I'm craving five guys tonight, do you want some?

I'm like, oh man, that sounds so good, but no. And I go, no, because I know I didn't move all day long, I didn't get my workout in. Yeah, it sounds good right now because I haven't eaten much and burger always sounds pretty damn good, but I also know that I'm also, it's not a major sacrifice to pass on it. And you know what, I'll have, you know, some taco salad tonight instead, or I'm gonna have the chicken breasts that's in the, in the refrigerator from yesterday instead. And it's not like I'm gonna have the chicken breasts that's in the refrigerator from yesterday instead. And it's not like I'm fucking sacrificing a lot right there. But if I feel like it's always on or off all the time,

then you're playing this game that you can or you can't. It's not that you can or you can't. It's just not I don't wanna do that right now. The root of the problem with it is not realizing the total value of food. So I'm gonna give you two scenarios, both unhealthy. Scenario one is the nutrition freak, the fanatic. The only value they see in food is the macronutrients,

like proteins, fats, carbs, the calories, and how it fuels their body. Now why is that unhealthy? They have an unhealthy relationship with food. They can enjoy themselves with their friends. They probably have, you know, missed lots of opportunities to develop relationships. They never enjoy food for the moment, for the pleasure of it.

I've worked with a lot of these people. You see a lot of them in the hardcore fitness space. They're dysfunctional with their eating because they only see food for its nutritional value. Now on the flip side, which is most people, because that's not a lot of people, but they exist. On the other side, you have the other people who only see food for its heat-inistic value.

Yes, all the value of food is how it tastes and how enjoyable it is. And you know this because when they decide what they're gonna eat, that's what they base their decision off of. What do you wanna eat? Let me think about it. Oh, I feel like Mexican, or I feel,

and it's all based off of its hedonistic value, how, oh my God, the taste of it, the smell, the enjoyment. Now, that is a value, just like the nutritional values of food are also a value, but if you worship one and you don't understand the others, you have dysfunction. What you really need to do is understand the total value. So, in the example that Adam that you gave, it's like you came home and Katrina says,

let's get five guys, and you recognize the hedonistic value. Oh yeah, that does sound like it's gonna taste good. But then you realize the other value, the nutritional value, and at that moment, it's more important to you. That's how you develop balance. This is why you won't need a diet break

because this is the internal dialogue that you have with yourself when you're deciding what to eat. What is more valuable to me at this moment right now? I'm with Adam, Justin, Doug, and our families. We're up in Lake Tahoe, we're at a ski lift, we have a hung out together in a way that wasn't business related. Right now, what I value is I want to enjoy this beer. I want to talk to my friends.

I want to have this carnival yasada taco and have a lot of fun. Most of the time, that's not the case, because most of the time, I'm just feeding myself, and so I'm going to value the nutritional stuff for food. But if you have that approach, then you don't have a diet break, because here's what a diet break encourages. It encourages you to go on your diet and off your diet,

which looks like restricting binge. That's exactly what it looks like. It's like, right now I'm on a break. What is a break? Anytime you take a break, what does a break look like? I'm going the opposite direction, everybody. I'm on a break. I'm gonna eat everything I want.

I'm gonna go crazy with the cake and the alcohol and then I'm gonna go nuts and then, uh oh, gotta get back on the diet. What does that look like? Perfection. Looks like restriction and perfection. And we all know how that relates to the workout. And it takes a lot of extra calories just to put one pound

of body fat on. So it's, you know, you may be thinking right now, like, you know, we, the two corona's I had and the four carnesada tacos, that's what, maybe a thousand calories, you know, maybe or so. That's not even enough to put one pound of body fat, especially considering that I'm gonna be riding and moving around like crazy.

It's the compounding effect and the spiraling down that ends up happening to people when they get on and off. And that's what that relationship promotes to the I can or can't have or I'm on a diet break. That diet break now turns into a, I'm gonna eat whatever I want because I'm on a break. And then break now turns into a, I'm gonna eat whatever I want, because I'm on a break. And then now it goes from the thousand calorie lunch

that I'm enjoying with my friends, because I'm on a ski lift to every day, every meal for the next five days, I'm over-consuming, and now I've over-consumed 7,000 calories. Here comes the two pounds that I added. It's just too neurotic. I mean, people just need to relax.

Like, for me, it's about seeking foods that I added. It's just too neurotic. I mean, people just need to relax. Like, for me, it's about seeking foods that I know, like the nutrients of it I need and I wanna get foods that make me feel good and help to promote better movement and keep me active and healthy. Like foods that make me healthy. Now there's gonna be times where it's not available, whatever, I don't wanna sweat about that

and hammer myself about that. The more you hammer yourself about it, the more again you get into that, that like, okay, well, I'm gonna go off the rails and then it just becomes more of this accelerated thing. It's like, I've known lots of people, I've known lots of people in our space who are fanatics about their nutrition and exercise, but it's such a stressful

way to live. And that it's in the fact that they don't have lots of deep relationships. The only relationships they have are with other fanatics. Yeah. They don't like to go out with friends, they don't like to go to parties, they don't like to connect with people, or they judge people for not being as fanatical as they are. And so what they end up doing is harming their health because stress, relationships, documented, this is documented, scientific studies have shown

that those things are as important to your health as your diet. So it's like you're gonna take one and completely destroy the other one. You've just traded one for the other. So you might as well eat bad and have good relationships. It's not that big of a difference.

So it's really about, look if you want to navigate in a modern Prosperous world where you have access to all these foods all the time because I mean Let's be honest for most of you in history We're kind of forced to eat healthy because that's all that was available You know you when you're caveman you're not walking by a McDonald's or Chinese food It's like what do we have to eat? I don't know, go kill that or pick that thing over there. And that's what you can eat. So we live in a very prosperous world.

The only way you're gonna navigate it right is to have that type of relationship with food. Otherwise, you're screwed. You are screwed and you're gonna go on and off and you're gonna have breaks and you're gonna get on the wagon. And now I'm serious and oh, now I'm off. And it's just gonna end up with poor relationship

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