Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1231: Breast Enhancing Exercises, How to Alter Diet on Training vs. Non-training Days, Learning to Love Healthy Foods & More

Episode Date: February 19, 2020

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about whether pec development makes breasts look bigger, how to alter diet on training vs. non-training days, elevator pitches for trying to convince family members of the benefits of resistance training, and the best way to learn to eat new, healthy foods that you haven’t enjoyed in the past. It’s a Vuori Valentine’s Day over at Mind Pump. (4:50) The story behind Mind Pump’s latest sponsor, ZBiotics, and the Wheel of Misfortune. (5:32) Death metal is a whole lot of angst. (24:00) SEO and movies. (28:56) The latest tech news with Mind Pump, the dangers of too much access to information & MORE. (31:28) #Quah question #1 – I recently started working out with a new trainer who has me doing more chest work than I’ve ever done before. Being a very small-breasted woman, is my pec development going to make my chest look bigger? (35:40) #Quah question #2 - How do you alter your diet on training vs. non-training days? (41:29) #Quah question #3 – Do you have an elevator pitch for trying to convince family members of the benefits of resistance training? (48:28) #Quah question #4 – What’s the best way to learn how to eat new, healthy foods that you haven’t enjoyed in the past? I can’t stand salmon and most fish, but I want the health benefits. Can you teach yourself to like new foods? (57:35) Related Links/Products Mentioned February Promotion: MAPS Split ½ off! **Code “SPLIT50” at checkout** Visit Vuori Clothing for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Poo transplants and hangover cures: Inside the murky world of probiotics Visit ZBiotics for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! FURNACE FEST 2020 – Birmingham, AL Harley Quinn has better SEO, so Birds of Prey is getting a new name Samsung unveils new foldable flip phone concept How to Fix Rounded Shoulders (GONE IN 4 STEPS!) | MIND PUMP How to Undulate Your Calories for Faster Weight Loss & an Improved Metabolism – Mind Pump TV Great Teams: 16 Things High Performing Organizations Do Differently - Book by Don Yaeger MAPS Fitness Prime Pro – Mind Pump Mind Pump Free Resources  People Mentioned Matt Cutshall (@mattcutshall)  Instagram

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. Welcome to Mind Pump, your favorite fitness and health podcast. Now in today's episode, we answer fitness and health questions asked by our audience. But we also do an introductory portion where we talk about our lives, we tell stories, and sometimes we mention our sponsors.

Here's what went down in today's episode. So we start out by talking about our Valentine's Day Viori gifts for our significant others. V-Day. Viori makes the best at leisure wear. In fact, they have a pair of pants that I love called the Sunday Performance Jargers. Now in Indigo color, you gotta go check it out.

They have the best at the leisure wear. Extremely comfortable, durable, and it's a life hand. It's a life hand. It's a life time guarantee. Oh, and also because you are listening to Mind Pump, you get 25% off all their products, including their brand new just dropped spring collection. Here's how you get 25% off all their products, including their brand new, just dropped Spring Collection.

Here's how you get the discount. Go to VioriClothing.viuriClothing.com forks-mindpump. Use the code that's listed on the page. Get a full 25% off your total order. Then we talked about the drinking game that we did called Wheel of Misfortune. Should have been called Wheel of Death. Yes, I know we're a health and fitness podcast, but there's a reason why we did this. We started working with a new sponsor called Zbiotics and they make a genetically engineered

probiotic that produces an enzyme that breaks down the byproduct of alcohol that is often responsible for the effects of a hangover, the crappy feeling. So we thought, what better way to test this new product than just get, let's test the limits. Let's get destroyed. And that's what we did. And you'll hear in the episode, 100% true. We are blown away by how we feel today.

I should not be here at work. I shouldn't be alive. And we feel okay, the stuff is pretty insane. Anyway, we have a hookup for you, okay? If you wanna try this out, this is what you do. Go to Zbiotics, that's the letter Z, B-I-O-T-I-C-S, dot com forward slash mine pump. You'll get 10% off the Zbiotics, three pack, six pack,

and 12 packs. So we got you the hookup. Give it a try, let us know how you like it. Then we talked about death metal and- My favorite subject. So cool. We talked about Samsung's new folding phone. And then we talked about SEO for movies

and how that makes a big difference apparently in getting ticket sales. Then we got into answering the fitness questions. Here's the first one. This is a woman asking us about chest exercises and wants to know how it will affect the appearance of her breasts. So we talk all about that in that part of the episode. The next question, this person says, hey, how do you change your diet on days you work out versus days you don't work out? Should you change your diet? We

actually had a differing of opinions here and discussed the benefits of eating less on non-training days or eating more on non-training days. The next question, this person wants to know if we have an elevator pitch that will help them convince family members to start lifting weights, so we hook them up with some sales tips. And the final question, this person says, look, I need to learn how to enjoy certain healthy foods like salmon. I can't stand it, but are there any techniques or strategies to be able to build new associations with the food so I can start to eat it?

Use butter. And we talk about it. Nacho cheese helps a lot. Yeah. And we talk a lot about our strategies and things that we've found success with our own clients. Also, before the episode starts, check this out. Maps split is 50% off.

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All of your winners send the name I just read to iTunes. At minepumpmedia.com, include your shirt size, size your shipping address and we'll get that shirt right out to you. I got a thank Rachel man she definitely saved my ass on Valentine's day we had so much going on and we had the little drinking party going on and stuff like that. So I didn't get around to getting much for Katrina for Valentine's Day, but she had already picked her up A new outfit from Viori got something from her new spring the spring clutch. They just released clutch I know right so came in clutch toy, and she didn't sell me out either so she didn't wrap me out and say like she got it Yeah, we look really good. Yeah, thank god. Although I just realized this is gonna be on the podcast. So they'll know now I think I at least I got that. Although I just realized this is gonna be on the podcast,

so they'll know now. Yeah. Oops. Yeah. Anyway, so how do you boys feel? Because are you guys just a little sluggish? Yeah, a little bit. So here's a deal.

We gotta let the audience in on what happened yesterday. We are working with a new sponsor called Zbiotics. Well, first backup, how we first mentioned them on the show, like what, maybe two months ago, you read a study. I read a study about a genetically engineered probiotic that produced an enzyme. So you take it, these bacteria,

and by the way, they get this bacteria from Nato, Nato, which is a Japanese food, fermented food, and they modified them so that they produce an enzyme that breaks down acetyl aldehyde, which is a byproduct, it's a byproduct of alcohol. Now why is this important? Because scientists think that the build-up of acetyl aldehyde is one of the main reasons why you feel so shitty the day after you drink because your body can only break down so much of it once it builds up, it'll hide, you get the inflammation,

the headache, all the characteristics of a hangover. And I read this article and the journalist and the articles like this stuff is amazing and then people talked about how great it was. And I kind of knew a little bit about how alcohol causes problems. I thought it was brilliant. We brought it up on the podcast. We bring it up on the podcast just you dropping it as a study. Yeah, we weren't even working with them.

No, no affiliation at all. You coming across your daily studies, they get this huge spike in sales out of nowhere. They're trying to figure it out for a few weeks. They finally get enough people that are actually emailing in and telling them like, oh, heard about this on MindPump. So that gets them to reach out to us and then the conversation starts. And the crazy part about it is the people that report back after taking this, I can't, it's either 80 something or 90 something percent of people say they feel a significant difference. And so we had, before we did anything with them. So this is, we're backing up like a few months back, right, when this all first started.

We have them send, of course, a kit over to us so we can go ahead and try it out ourselves. I had three of them. We brought it to Sal's birthday party in Vegas. Was that what we brought it? Yeah, it was the first time we had it. Yeah. I gave it to you guys, because I only brought two. to Sal's birthday party in Vegas. Was that what we brought it? Yeah, it was the first time we had it. Yeah. I gave it to you guys, because I only brought two,

and thinking like, I got one for me and like a backup or whatever, and it had given them both to you guys and didn't get to try it out, but you guys get to try it out. Yeah, so we tried it in Vegas, and you know, that night, I drank not super heavy,

but heavy enough to wear, and I'm old enough and experienced enough without all to know the feeling that I have the next day. Or the too much, right? Yeah, I know it. I know it too much here. Yeah, it's like a toxic feeling. It's hard to, you know, if you've ever been drunk

and had a hungover, hangover the next day, you know what I'm talking about? It's this toxic kind of gross feeling. So we took it, we went out, we drank, I drank a little, a little bit too much, and I woke up the next day and I felt remarkably okay. Like I mean remarkable in the sense that I was shocked. Adam's too, I remember we called each other

and we're both like, what the, so we decided to work with a company and then we had a great idea. I think Rachel's a great idea. Right, yeah, let's put it into the limits. That's a great idea. Let's push the limits's put it to the limit. Yeah, let's put it to the limit. Dude, so we did a drinking game and we thought... We all miss fortune.

Yeah, and we thought it would be a good test and potential commercial. Now, here's the deal. The game, you spin a wheel and then you have to do what it says on the wheel and without going too much detail. You have three lives. Every time you have to take a shot says on the wheel and without going too much detail, you have three lives. Every time you have to take a shot, unless everybody takes a shot.

So when you do that, you loot, well the game says three lives. Oh, okay, right. Rachel thought, hey, let's do five lives. Like that's a great idea. We wanna make sure they're definitely getting in there. They're drinking our first mistake. But here's the thing that you don't realize

when you play the game, you don't always lose a life when you take a shot. We all have to take a shot, doesn't count. So here we are playing the game, you don't always lose a life when you take a shot. Well, we all have to take a shot, doesn't count. So here we are playing the game, doing shots every time it tells us to, and the game's moving fast. So you're like, within an hour, I lost. So I didn't even do as many as Adam or Chester.

You guys got messed up. Wait too many. I was out after about, I'd say, seven or-hmm. And this is within 45 minutes. Yeah, yeah, and I haven't taken that many shots of alcohol Since I was probably 20 years old. I mean there was when I when we were kids We used to have this like you know you weren't you weren't drunk until you threw up That's what was our stupid thing that we used to say yeah, right? And that's when you're like when you're 20 and it's like that you live for Friday nights, right?

We would sit down and we would do like a, we couldn't afford it much. So we got the cheapest pop off vodka. Thunderbird. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The big plastic gallon of vodka. And the three of us would sit around and this is what it reminded me of,

just shot after shot after shot after shot just taking turns And so it was going I'm gonna be a hundred percent honest that was bro That was the most drunk. I've been in at least over a decade. Oh, I'm telling you I have not been that Two decades for me. It hasn't been since there's 20 years old since I've done something like the same We were Summashed and here's the funny part was really annih. The only one of us that was excited for the drinking game and who was just like, this is great. I can't wait.

It's so fun was Justin. I wanted to see you guys get like on that level and then yeah, I was like way overhyping it and paid the bro. You danced on the dark side there. I did. So what happened? I left.

I saw, I had to take off. Just got to come up. I was destroyed and I know you had, side there. I did. So what happened? I left. I saw, I had to take off, just got to come up. Well, I was destroyed. And I know you had, you were drinking straight whiskey. Yeah. I had fireball, which is not nearly as strong. Yeah. And I was watching you progressively become more and more.

I morphed. I would say. Yeah. So you got sick right? Yeah, I got really sick. So I think, yeah, I think because I ate a decent amount for lunch and then trying to kind of prep it and I think what happened was like it just finally got past the food. You know, he all went once and then it was just like I pretty much blacked out.

I didn't remember a whole lot other than I was just puking my guts out. Oh my god. I was like I was hugging the toilet doing the all like. What in here dude? Yeah, that's the worst one ever. I was just peeking my guts out. Oh my god. I was hugging the toilet, doing the oil like. You know what I'm hearing, dude? Yeah, that's the worst one ever, dude. Oh, I was so like, I took like 10 showers when I got home. You know, I was just like, ugh.

This toilet doesn't even work that well. It's the only way I could be like flush all of it down, dude. I'm like looking at it and, oh god. Oh my god. Oh, the humanity. Now, how many, do you know how many shots you took? Well, Rachel will count it. No, I have no idea. I think I think they're gonna

I think they're gonna count it up on the video when they when they do the video I think they're gonna keep track of how I think you guys hit like 11. I know I push I know I push 10 I know I did but this is 10 shots of straight alcohol in in an hour Yeah, I know that bottle is dangerous that bottle is done and then I still I still, my last shot, I remember, was a Jack Daniels. So last thing you remember? Yeah, that's what I say, I remember. No, no, hey. So, I knew this, we were gonna do this game, and I figured,

and I'm a lightweight anyway, right? So I told Jessica, drop me off at work, and then I want you to come pick me up after. But when she came to pick me up, she had to pick up my daughter first, and then my son, right? So my kids are in the car. Oh, God. Okay, so I'm... And my kids came to pick me up, she had to pick up my daughter first and then my son, right? So my kids are in the car. Oh, God. Okay. Okay. So I'm kids came to pick up to. Oh, dude. So I get in the car And I'm like, I don't want my kids to know their dad got smashed on a Thursday at work and also So this is degenerates. Oh, dude. So I get in the car and my daughter first thing my daughter goes, what's that smell?

And I'm like, what do you mean? She's like, it smells gross. What do you smell funny? Yeah. Oh, she said that right away. Yes. Oh, good. My son's looking at me and he's like, and I had told him a while ago about Zbiotic

that this company goes, it's today the day you got drunk and I'm like, a little bit, you know, I'm fine. Then as we're driving, this is my face the whole time in the car. I'm like, because I was like maintaining. I am not gonna let my kids know. My daughter goes, why are you making your face that way? Why do you look like that? We get in the house.

My son's like, you should go take a nap. So yeah, I'm going to go take a nap. Yeah. Now, Doug, you were also visibly inebriated. You got destroyed. You're the smallest lightest guy in here. How did you, what's, how did you feel destroyed you're the smallest lightest guy in here how did you what's how did you feel what's the deal? And now yeah or then well then to did you get sick to I didn't okay not at all so I was nowhere near where Justin was as a matter of fact That was helping I was his caretaker. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, everybody left You're having a night and yeah And this asshole was actually considering driving.

He thought he was okay to drive. Oh my God. We were like, I said, just a note, there's no way. There's no way you're going. And so he called his wife. And then the next thing he does is he disappears. And then I hear this wretching sound coming from the bathroom. Yeah, made it to the bathroom.

You gotta give me that. Yeah, that's awesome. So he's in there for a good, I don't know, 45 minutes. Oh wow, I just had to stay there while. Needle down right before the throne. Yeah, puking his guts out. I mean, and these are like dry heaves it sounds like. I was nervous for you though, Doug, too,

because you were really worried and you were pretty smashed before. Were you the first or second one out? Sound go up first. I was the second one out. Yeah, sound went out first. Then Doug, then Justin. Well, I thought this game, if I were to lose, meaning get out first,

then I would know that I would drink the most. Oh. That's what I thought the rules were when I first started. So I was pretty nervous about losing. Like, but in fact, by losing, I won. Right, it's kind of losing. It is kind of ironic the way the game is set up that if you win, you end up taking the most shots

because you kind of outlast everybody. So you're not much of a winner. Not really. You thought that one. But I did probably do seven to eight. Oh, I know, Adam was sitting on the couch and you're not one normally to complain or anything like that and you're like, bro, you're like, I haven't been, I don't know,

when the last time I was destroyed. Well, I have, like in right away, so Doug and Justin go with us to hold this. Yes, we walked a whole food. So like what I've learned from all. Should say weaved. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We went for a long walk.

So we, we'd ride away like, cause Katrina asked me, cause she knows that's how, that's what, the handful of times she's seen me drunk I'll just take off and I just go for a walk for like hours Just to burn burn it off dude like the I think the worst thing you can do when you're that Fucked up is to go lay down and try and close your eyes. Oh, yeah the room spinning like I'm that's how bad we were So I'm like I have to burn some of this off or else, I don't care how magical Z-Bioch is I'm gonna be young

over because how bad I was. So we went walking to Whole Foods, but Doug bought a whole loaf of French bread. And then him and I just were tearing it off and eating it dry, just back and forth until it was gone, dude. We walked, yeah, French. That's your drunk meal. Yeah, dude, just eat that back and forth until it was gone, dude. We were, yeah, that's your drunk meal.

Yeah, dude, just eat that back and forth and, and, soak it up, walked all the way back from whole foods, then Katrina came and picked me up, then I went home, and I sat on the couch for a second, and I did, I knew I was like, oh, I can't sit down yet. If I stopped moving, I got worse. And so I was like, I'll walk the dogs. So I just took a stunk for walk, for like a long time.

So I wanna give a disclaimer, okay. Do not do what we did at all. First off, we're professionals. I don't think we anticipated getting that destroyed. That was way overboard. And number two, it's dangerous. I mean, let's be honest, that was just a silly amount. But here's the trippy part.

And this is 100% true, crazy. This is crazy. First off, I haven't been that drunk at least 10 years. 100% the next day, I would feel like complete. And utter painful thought. I'm blown away by how I feel right now. Oh, it's weird. And here's the real.

I feel very tired. Yes, because I didn't sleep. Yes, I mean, I was so drunk that at two in the morning, I was still drunk, you know, stumble into the bathroom to go pee and stuff and I'm still drinking water, trying to fall asleep. So I didn't get a good night's sleep, for sure. Like I definitely don't I don't feel great, but I feel tired. I just feel tired. Yes. But I feel I don't feel nauseous. I don't have a headache. I don't feel dehydrated. I feel totally fine. It's it's it's wild. But yeah, I know it's blowing my mind.

It's wild. I woke up this morning and Jessica's like, how are you doing? And I'm like, I worked out this morning. I woke up at 5 a.m. and lifted. Oh, you trained even. Swart of God. Wow. I swore to God. I'm too tired to get up early.

Now, I didn't have a spectacular workout, but the fact that I worked out is testament to how I'm literally, it's almost, I'm almost in disbelief because normally I'd be aching my whole body, I feel feverish, I'd have a throbbing painful headache and instead what I feel like is I just had bad sleep. Which to me is just, I swore to God I feel like this company came up with it. Now here's a thing you can't't say it's a hangover, cure, and like that.

Yeah, what's the reason for that? I remember him telling, when we were on the phone, and we were first talking, and it's like, one of those things that like, they tell you all the condition, right? Well, they tell you like how magical it is, like as we're offline talking, but listen, you have to be very careful, you can't say all these things

and make wild claims, but just wait, you'll see when you take it. No, you can't. There's a reason. You can't say all these things and make wild claims, but just wait, you'll see when you take it. No, you can't. There's a reason why you can't. Yeah, the FDA regulates a hangover as a medical condition. So you can't make a medical claim unless it's a FDA-approved substance or drug for that medical condition. Now, I know there's studies going on, so that's probably going to be something that they will be able to talk about later once the study's come out and all that stuff. So what we're talking about is simply our

own anecdote. And also, here's another thing that's important. It doesn't allow you to drink more in the sense that you're still going to get drunk. So that's an important thing to understand. It's not like you take, you're going to take z-bottles and now I can drink way more. No, no, no, you get just as drunk as you did before. So you still gotta be very careful. But yeah, it's pretty remarkable. At the, I can't, now Justin, I wanna know because you got sick, you never get sick, you have the most tolerance for drinking, you have an iron stomach, I don't think you ever throw up.

So how do you feel? Yeah, no. And the thing is like, I don't think you ever throw up. So how do you feel? Yeah, I don't think the thing is, I don't drink fast like that either. That was in such a short period of time and way too much. I puke my guts out, everything. I was in there and then I ended up home.

Thank God, Courtney came to pick me up. But to be honest, I slept on the couch for a bit and got up and then I felt like almost normal again. It was really bizarre. Like I started drinking water and then was coming back and like it was like I was resurrected, dude. It was weird. And then now today I feel super tired and like,

I feel like I was in Vegas for three days and hadn't slept or whatever, but I don't feel like you're talking about the pains like in terms of I used to have really gut-wrenching pain. If I ever got that sick, the next morning I was guaranteed I'm gonna still puke and I'm gonna have headaches and I'm gonna be achy and I don't have any of that. I just feel really lethargic

and I don't feel mentally sharp or anything right now, but I am definitely, could be a lot worse. It's really trippy. Oh, but I swear, I mean, what a great commercial for Zibotic. It's 100% true and we really did. I put it to the ultimate test. Well, this the way we,

just the way we found this company was completely organic. You know, I mean, it was, you were just reading some crazy study. We didn't believe it. There's no way this could work that great. Let's test it out. Let's test it out. Oh my God, the first time we tested, okay, let's push the limits and see what happens.

So, I mean, so literally what happens, again, this is a Cedal aldehyde builds up in the system. It's a byproduct of alcohol metabolism and your body breaks that down into more benign things like acetate and something else. But there's an enzyme that does that, that the liver produces, and the problem is that this enzyme runs out.

You have a limited supply. So once this enzyme runs out, you can't break down any more of it and you get acetyl aldehyde buildup. And that buildup is toxic and inflammatory to the body. And they sit and studies show that this is one of the main reasons besides dehydration and lack of sleep. One of the main reasons you feel so toxic the next day.

Now a lot of people wonder, why can't I just take that enzyme? Why can't I just supplement with the enzyme that breaks down acetyl aldehyde? The reason you can't is because enzymes are basically proteins. If you take it by mouth, your gut breaks it down and it doesn't get through the system and break down the alcohol. What you do when you take this genetically modified bacteria is the bacteria goes through

your gut and it produces this enzyme throughout your gut. As you're drinking throughout the night or whatever, you have ample amounts of this enzyme to break down this acetyl aldehyde. It's absolutely brilliant. It's so brilliant that I actually worry that it's gonna increase people's, how much people drink. I think it's gonna give people the green card

to drink more because- Well, of course it's gonna do that. No, of course it's gonna do that. What's their tag? Have you seen their tag line? It's a drink like there is a tomorrow. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, like people say drink that there's no tomorrow. It's a drink like there is a tomorrow.

But I tell you what, this is it now. Now I have something that we, because we don't drink very often, but when we, I always feel shitty the next day. I hate alcohol. It makes me feel like, like, dirt the next day. But now that we have this, you know, I think it's gonna be a little bit.

It's a good tool in the toolbox. It's gonna be just a little bit better. Well, you know, I remember, what was it like two years ago, when you introduced the whole charcoal thing? And that was like game changer for me. Cause it's right. Up until my pump, like I never had alcohol, ever.

Like I would go over a year and not have a drink ever. Like it just was not my thing. Because I always felt miserable. Then you introduced charcoal and that made a big difference. But this shit's on that. Oh dude. I mean, as much as that helped me, this is is on a whole. Like I said, I haven't I haven't felt like that. And at least a decade, it was a it's a it's you know, when you get so if you're listening right now, you know, I'm talking about when you get so drunk that you start to pray,

you know what I mean? Where you're like please, just let me get through this right now. And I, I'll, you know, I'll be a better person. I'll be a good person. It was that kind of a feeling. It wasn't very good. But anyway, so I, I, I, I said I woke up this morning and was able to work out. By the way, Justin, I want to talk,

I want to ask you something. I know you're the death metal. Yeah. Like a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, fish and otto. Yeah, you're, you're the guy, right? I'm gonna ask you something. I know you're the death metal. Yeah. Like a, aficionado. Yeah, you're the guy, right? I definitely. I almost never listened to the lyrics of death metal. I just lived and just,

ah, right now I work out. Yeah, they're a little scary sometimes. But because my workout was a little slower because I wasn't, you know, I get good sleep last night. Yeah, you needed that extra encouragement. I just, for whatever reason, I started paying attention to the lyrics. And I realized something. The lyrics to death metal is just a bunch of like angst

It's a bunch of dudes who are like pissed off that their girlfriends are Yeah, some of them like I don't know if you listen to a band like hate breed or so. They're not death metal But like they're more I guess like hardcore metal. I guess you'd say But that's empowering music. If you listen to their lyrics, it's all about how to overcome. It just depends on the genre, but that's hilarious. Death metal was all just angsty. Yeah, I'm listening to it.

I hate you. I'm like, wait a minute. But this is really demographic. It's all these teenage boys that, you know, they're kind of catering to. Oh, emo black. Oh, well, you know, who does it? Who's the guy I follow on Instagram shot out to this dude cause I love his content?

Matt Newshell, is that right? Oh, yeah. Is it Newshell? I think you're right. Matt's his first name. He has an emo character. Yes, he brings out all the time. Yes, he does it all the time, dude.

It's money, too. It's hilarious. I reached out to him probably, I don't know, almost a year ago, when I first, he's blown up now, when I first found his page, and the content he was putting on, oh, this dude's gonna be big watch. And I try to get him on the show way back when

and our schedules didn't match, what are, but dude, it's funny. It's pretty funny that you bring that up. Like, I just bought tickets and signed up for it. Like, this furnace fest is what it's called in Alabama and it's all like crazy ass death metal and Alabama. You're going to Alabama or in Malibu.

Hold on, you're going to Alabama death metal. On a weekend. On a concert? Yes. And I'm going with my old bandmates, you know, from Chicago. What are you doing this? This is in like September, but it's like on a weekend. Yeah. You're gonna fly out there just for the weekend but it's like on a weekend. Yeah.

You're gonna fly out there just for the weekend and fly back? Yes. Yes. Wow. Are you gonna mosh with the corn fed big dudes that from Alabama or what? Hell yeah. Oh my god.

Oh yeah. That was one of those things. Like I turned 40 this year. I was like, dude, this is one of the, it just popped up. It was an old festival that we had played, you know, a long time ago. Oh, I saw you share that in your story. You're sharing the lineup.

All the people that were gonna be there. Yeah, I wanted to see if there was anybody else going that listens to the show or anything or if I'd run in and anybody. Because it's a very niche music. Like nobody, there's not a lot of people that listen to the shit. So I'm trying to get into things

that I used to really love again. And this is one of those things. so I'm like really excited about it. Do you know who got me to listen to it at all? Was a female roommate of mine in my mid-20s. I was like 20s. That's rare because- Yeah, well, Roy. Yeah, she usually hate this kind of thing.

She introduced me to like dropkick Murphy, all that. Like I didn't know any of that stuff. I don't know any punk. I didn't know any death metal. I didn't know any of that stuff. I didn't know any punk, I didn't know any death metal, I didn't know any, that's all she was, and you know, sounds like a, okay, blonde hair, blue eye girl, like you would just, didn't like,

did not fit what the demographic, she was a paralegal too. Wow. Yeah, you would, you would just never, she sounds awesome. Yeah, I know, she was rad. We were like, we were best friends. Did she play video games too?

She didn't play video, she snowboarded. I was just saying. I would have been too far. We used to be almost a unicorn. Yeah, well, one of my best friends was dating her for quite some time. But we were good friends for a bet. That's, I just, listen to you talk about,

I'm like, who got me to listen to death metal first? I'm like, you know what, it's funny. You're like, check me to listen. I listen to it exclusively to Lef White. It just puts me in the mood and it gets me to, I get this real good aggressive energy. It's very, very distinct. Oh yeah.

But Justin legit listens to it. Like all the time. Yeah, just relaxing. It annoys the fuck out of me. We'll be driving. It's relaxing. We're driving somewhere, right? It's just like, it's like, it's like,

it's like, it's gonna be down. Eight o'clock in the morning. We're heading to like some interview. We're gonna do or in another state. I'm like drinking my coffee, waking up and just, I'm like, Justin puts on music. It's like, I'm like, whoa, bro. It's too much.

Yeah, way too fast. You gotta work your way up to me to get me to get me to that. It's funny, but it is funny when I'm listening to the lyrics. And of course, I'm thinking like, yeah, mostly men listen to this and boys. It's angsty lyrics. This is legit because two reasons, one, boys and men are not encouraged

to express their feelings, it's just not. And number two, I think biologically, we also don't express them kind of naturally as easily. So you combine those two things and you get a lot of feelings and really the only feeling that's acceptable that we let out is just pissed. Yeah.

So it's like, I'm sad, so I'm gonna let it out as pissed, or I'm a little depressed. I'm a let it out as pissed. I'm confused. It's gonna come out as anger. Sure. Yeah.

Let it all come out as anger. Was it you Justin or you saw yesterday that was talking to me about the movies and SEO thing, about the movie that actually went back and changed their name. Yeah, that was me. Yeah, I was me. Yeah, I had just read something.

It was about Harley Quinn, that movie that just came out. Oh, Birds of Prey. Birds of Prey. Yeah, so they had it. It was just called Birds of Prey. And so, I guess because of that, people searching online and everything, I guess they didn't know the actual release date of it or anything. And so the ticket sales were affected by that.

And so then they went back and put Harley Quinn, I think in front of the title and then Birds of Prey. And then they got like a way bigger spike in ticket sales. Wow, interesting. I know it still plays a fact. I know it's still tanked though. What, what, what, what? Yeah, it did tanked.

Why is that? Why, because people are searching Harley Quinn more? I think it might be because Birds of Prey probably brings up Birds of Prey. You know, like actual Birds of Prey? Well, I don't think, I think two people, people don't really know to search that, you know, like that movie title versus like Harley Quinn.

I wanna see the Harley Quinn movie here. That's true. And it's like, Birds of Prey, like I wouldn't even know to search for that. That's true. Oh, that's a weird thing. Now, did you see what they said? Because the movie didn't perform well at all.

No. They were saying it's because sexism. Like, the reason nobody watched the movies because it's an all female class or whatever. Well, that's what they said about the Ghostbusters. Yeah, and I was like, no, it just sucks. Yeah, if I could have just said, I don't understand. There's good ones out there.

You know, just like, you know, sometimes they suck. Now, you know who loved that movie, who watched it and loved it. Who? My 14 year old son. Really? What have you been eating? I've never seen that in the first. What do you think?

I don't know. He's like, he's like his mom want to take him to the movies and she's like, so what movie do you want to watch? She's like, oh, it's like a super villain movie, you know, called Birds of Prey and I'm listening to him like, right? Well, I got to be honest. DC has not been hitting very well. Like they, I mean, the last one was Wonder Woman did well, I think.

That was great. Was Joker DC the one that came out with Joaquin? I don't know. Yeah, I mean, of course, it's in that franchise. That one, yeah, that did, you know, do very well. That one, Crush, but this other, you know, series or whatever, not doing well. But it's funny because my son wanted to watch it, and after he ends up on the phone, I'm like, so you like, you're a fan of that movie, huh?

Like which ones are your favorite? Super villain. He's like, who? Who is who? Right, bro. The Apple isn't fall far from the tree. I know exactly why you like that movie. He comes home like, did you like it?

He's like, yeah, it was a great movie. And then I read the reviews. I'm like, it sucked. You're lying. Dude, I was also looking up like latest tech stuff. Like there was this release of a phone that looks almost like, you remember in the 1990s, that flip phone that was, I mean, it was like a pretty staple phone.

Oh, the new Samsung folding one? Yes, but it's not the folding one like it folds out. So it looks like a tablet. It's like, it flips up. So like you sit it down and it's flipping up like this. You can actually sit it on your table and it, like, you know, you can take video and stuff from that. But then it then it opens all the way up and it becomes like a regular size phone. So it's interesting. It just looks, it's funny because it's like nostalgic because it goes back to that same look of like the Nokia flip phone.

Like it, but it's all like one screen. Oh, it is. The whole thing is one screen. No, I thought, didn't Samsung, they did a fully model and it didn't do well, right? Didn't they have a bunch of problems with it? Yeah. They came out with this, they got like dust

and stuff in the cracks of it or whatever. Right. It was a function. It was just a big deal like a year ago or less. It was this phone that was supposed to fold out and open up to be like a massive tablet, but they had all kinds of issues.

Oh, there it is right there. Is that the new one that you're talking about? Yeah, I think. Yeah, that's it. Yeah. So there's the Samsung one, yeah. Yeah, so there's. Yeah. So it's, there's, there's, there's a Samsung one. Yeah. Yeah. So there's the Galaxy Z Flip and the Moto Razor.

Yeah. I, this is, they're getting pretty cool. At some point, I feel like they're gonna have, it's gonna get so flexible that it's gonna be like a tube that you roll out. Oh, so yeah. I think at some point, it's gonna get obsolete. Like, we won't, I think it's gonna be like, it'll be in your ear all the time, and you'll just be able to call Sal or text Justin.

And why they're seeing it from your eyeball? Like in the movies? Yeah, well either that, either that, or you'll have something else that if you need a display screen, like it'll be something really small and then it shoots it up on the wall and it'll be. Well, the second, I wonder when that's gonna happen.

The big car. Can't be far from that. No, and the bottleneck is us, right? The bottleneck between technology is how fast we can search for something and how fast we can receive the information which is limited by natural human barriers. The second they can move past that, looks like what's his name?

Let's talk about the mirror. Yes, the wand. That'll be one of the biggest, most incredible breakthroughs. Don't know what it'll cause. It could be good and bad, but the ability to be able to think in search. You don't want to be an early adopter to that. No. It's going to be weird.

It'll be like a complete extension of your brain, which is going to be very, very strange. It's already wild to me. Sometimes I take it for granted, like what we have the capability, like how often is this happening your day today where you have a question about something, whether it be science related or you're debating somebody about something. Just look at it. Right, and how quick I can look up the opposing argument,

the argument to support it, watch and listen to both of them from like really brilliant minds. I mean, that's just crazy to me that we have access like that. Never in history before when we have something like that. It wasn't that long ago that if you got an argument or debate with your friend, you just had to argue your side, go back and forth, you'd ask other people around,

you just see who they agree with. Right, right. Now it's like, I'm right, no I'm right, look it up, I guess you're right. Yeah, like that's it we're done. Really, seriously? It's wild. I know.

It's really crazy. But all of this, it's funny because we thought, you know, for a long time that if we just had access to all the information, we would solve a lot of our problems because we thought a lot of our problems was literally just a lack of information. And what we're realizing is that's a small part of the problem. The next part is wisdom, which you can't really get from just having information. So now we have a bunch of people with access to tons of information, but it's not necessarily making them wiser, better people. Right now.

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than I've ever done before. Being a very small breasted woman is my pect development going to make my chest look bigger. Okay, that's actually a good question. Usually the question I get around chest exercises from women is, are these exercises gonna make my shrink smaller? Yeah. So one thing to understand is that spot reduction

actually doesn't happen. So what that means is if I train a part of my body, my body doesn't burn body fat from just that area. It's a systemic fat loss and your genetics largely determine where you lose fat from. So if you're a woman and you're working out and you're getting overall leaner, the odds are you will lose some breast size,

but it has nothing to do with the chest work. It's because you're getting leaner. Now as far as the chest exercises, okay, this is anecdote, but from the female clients that I trained, in client breast. Yeah, they all said that it lifted. Yeah, that's why I like in client. Yeah, because underneath your breasts

are obviously your pec muscles, and if your pec muscles are more developed, it's going to lift your breasts and make them appear to be more, whatever, perky or whatnot. So it's not something you should avoid, that's for sure. Yeah, I don't avoid it. And we really are, it's putting hairs what we're talking about, too. Like, you're not going to do a bunch of chest exercises

and make your boobs massive. You're not going to do a bunch of chest exercises and make them disappear. Like, it's just, it's an exercise that you should probably be doing. I don't know as a trainer if I would put extra emphasis in it. Like if I had a client that was, that came to me like, Hey, I, you know, is there something we can do to build my boobs or, I don't think I would add a, uh, in the routine just because I think,

I think about, uh, you know, the rhomboids, like, you know, more so just to be able to support, you know, good posture with it. And exactly. And that is because in my experience, I mean, most everybody suffers from some sort of upper-cost syndrome. I think it's even more common in women than it is in men.

And I think that for the most part, I would be teaching my client. Because here's the thing too, you know, it'll make your boobs look great. The standing up with great posture. One of my favorite things to take a client who had this kind of like, you know, this, this slouch shoulder forward head. And, and they would come in and they tell me about how they want to look. And then just they would be kind of really down on themselves. And I'd take them over the mirror and I would do this posture check with them

and I'd hold them then and I'm gonna look at yourself. You look like when you stand up, right? I don't care, man or woman, you stand up, right? And you look like you've lost 10 pounds just from good posture. So I would put a lot of my energy with clients that felt that way, like the boobs were sagging or my curves or my body didn't look good,

just by getting her to stand up, have really good posture, boy really essentially it's all of their curves and their natural, that their body looks already. Yeah, so your posture sends a signal to people on the outside that gives them a clue as to your physical strength and health, that's obvious, but also your emotional state,

your posture reflects oftentimes your emotional state. So if I were to say right now, imagine a 17 year old girl who's depressed and sad, and now what kind of posture do you automatically imagine? If I say to you, think of somebody that just won a sporting event and has incredible energy. What kind of posture do you tend to imagine?

Poster, and remember, communication is mostly nonverbal in your posture as part of that. So that's 100% right, Adam. When you correct your posture, regardless of anything else, even if you don't change your body composition, you're sending a healthier signal, and attractiveness is, the root of attractiveness is health. So all the things that we tend to view as attractive,

even though we try to trick each other with things like makeup and surgeries and all that and clothes and all that stuff, at the end of the day, really the root of it is your exemplifying health. And so when you're healthy, you just look much more attractive. Now, as far as this question is concerned, I don't think this trainer is emphasizing chestwork.

I think she's just doing more chestwork than ever before because in my experience, when I trained female clients, they have exercise, yes. When they have exercise history, when I would look at their workouts, the thing that they trained the least was always chest. There was just something that they did.

That's fair, I definitely don't want to brag on a trainer I don't know. For her doing three sets a week of chest maybe the most she's ever done before. Did you guys ever get that comment from a female client where she's just like, wow, we're doing so much chest work. This is normal, it's actually, well, this is normal. It's actually balanced, you know, based off of what you were, you know, what you did before. And balance always looks really good.

Inbalances don't. So there is a healthy balance between the back and the chest and between the upper and lower body. You know, symmetry balance. These are terms that you hear in body building or bikini or physique. So avoiding one part of the body is going to be detrimental to your aesthetics. Because they do this with, by the way, face, when they try to figure out like the science behind what makes someone, that someone's face attractive, symmetry and balance are the two things that we can measure scientifically.

Your body has this as well, so you don't want to avoid working a particular area. And again, spot reduction is a myth, so don't worry, you're not going to lose your boobs because you work out your chest. On the flip side, you're not going to be able to get your stomach leaner by working your abs. It's got to be overall leaner. And you want to have good balance and you want to have good posture because it it looks healthy and healthy as attractive Next question is from Julie Cassandra. How do you alter your diet on training versus non-training days?

I I love this and yeah, I feel like we're gonna have a Discussion around this because I think you and I are a little different. Yeah, well, I I really Love to manipulate this like so and I do this all the time with weekends, especially I've tracked My movement my activity my workouts so consistently for so long That I've really got a pretty good idea. So even though I'm not tracking right now I have a good idea of like what a Saturday looks like or what a good Saturday looks like, what a bad Saturday looks like, and what I mean by good and bad is by my activity level. Like, was I very active that day? Did I train like I need to in order to get my movement and my

calorie burn up on a Saturday or Sunday in comparison to like a Monday where I'm starting my day really early and I'm moving a lot and I normally get my workouts always so I like to adjust my calories that way I mean we already talk about the benefits of Undulating calories anyways and not having like this, you know Linear calorie intake where it's just like you always you know your diet says you eat 13 or 1500 calories Whatever and so every day you do that

I just like to break it up. Like I think, and it makes the most sense to eat less food on the days when I feel like I need the less food because I'm not moving and I'm not pushing the body. It's an off day working out. So that's what I'll do on my training days. I make sure I'm fed. I make sure that I'm taking care of my body,

if I'm going to push up on calories a little bit. I just had this the other night with Katrina, where you're talking, this is like two nights ago. And I knew I needed to get at least another two meals and it was already like six o'clock because I was just behind on calories. And I had a really good hard training session. And yes, I could not eat and get benefits of burning more calories, but I'm trying to build

at the moment. And I want to make sure that I reap the benefits of a hard training session like that. So I want to be fed. Now if I hadn't trained that day and I'm still behind calories and I would actually not worry about it, I would probably skip a meal and be low calorie that day because I'm the need for the extra calories is less important when I haven't sent a signal to build muscle. If I just sent them a loud signal to build muscle, that in my opinion is one of the best times to make sure that I'm getting adequate calories in protein versus a day

when I don't train it all day like that. I might skip a meal. Yeah, see, this is where I think you and I are different. By the way, I don't train it all day like that, I might skip a meal. Yeah, see, this is where I think you and I are different. By the way, I don't think there's a wrong answer here. So, so the way Adam's doing it perfectly fine, if that's your preference, I think that's a great strategy and a lot of what you said makes perfect sense. Now, for me, it's actually believe it or not,

it's a little bit of the reverse. On my workout days, I prefer to eat a little bit less. I like to have a lighter feel. I like to, I'm a little busier, typically on the days that I work out, so I don't feel like I want to eat as much. On the days off, I like to eat a little bit more. I feel like it helps me recover on the days in between.

And here's the other thing that I, and this is my own theory, but when you're sedentary, you're sending an atrophy signal to your muscle, even if you worked out the day before. So, and again, you can test this yourself. You can work out super hard today and then stay in bed for two days and see that you actually end up losing muscle, even though you worked out really hard, you know, the day before. And I used to do this as a kid, I used to think sitting around would help me recover faster,

later on, I realized, actually got a move because I have to continue to send that muscle building signal. Now, one way to offset that, and this is, again, my theory is to keep the calories high and keep the protein high. High calories, high protein, by themselves, not always, okay, and this is not a great strategy all the time, but in combination with exercise, I think it works great. When your calories are high in your protein type, by itself, independent of workout and anything else, it does send a anabolic signal.

In fact, if you take the average person, don't change anything about their lifestyle at all, and just pump their calories in a protein, you'll see a little bit, a tiny bit of muscle mass gain and strength gain. Now, it's limited. It's not going to be getting tons of muscle, you end up getting more fat if you stay on that path. But there is a bit of a boosting effect. So when I'm sedentary eating more, it feels to me like I am able to send more of that signal.

So I would do this also when I was competing and I was really consistent. And I too don't, I like this strategy. I don't coach this way though, because I know the average person doesn't have the same self discipline as I do. And what I've noticed with clients is that if I give them the okay to feed more when they're sedentary. Oh, they just have more access to food.

Right. They tend to make have more access to food. Right. They tend to make worse choices. Great point. And so I agree with everything you're saying, and I too will manipulate and play around with my food like that too. And I think it's great to go both ways if you have the control and discipline to do both.

But behaviorally speaking, I noticed that clients, if I tell them on Saturday that they can have a surplus of calories, they have a harder time controlling it versus telling them, hey, you're not moving nor is near as much, so we don't need to feed as much, so this is a day we actually need to reduce. And so I'm telling them to reduce, knowing too that they still might kind of overeat a little bit, so I tend to... No, you're right. You're 100% right, because connecting my activity today to my food intake today is a great strategy to help people monitor their food intake. Plus when you're sedentary and you're sitting around, you're oftentimes sitting around snack food, sitting or not doing much watching

TV watching TV. Mindless eating starts to happen. It's more cravings. Yes, absolutely. That's why, yeah, for me personally, like I definitely tend to not eat as much if I'm sanitary, just because it's just, I've conditioned myself to not seek it out as much because it is, it was always craving type foods that I tended to want to gravitate towards with that, you know, mentality. So, but yeah, I do like going into workouts, not with a lot of calories. Like I like to go into the workout, but then replenishing, I do like going into workouts, not with a lot of calories. I like to go into the workout, but then replenishing, you know, after the workout, I tend to eat quite a bit.

Yeah, so for those of you who have the discipline to do this, I love to feed myself a lot on the days before. I have hard workouts when I'm more sedentary, so I do that. Then when I go into my workout, I have less food, but I did eat the day before, right? And I have great workouts, it's typically good pumps, and I'm more sedentary, so I do that. Then when I go into my workout, I have less food, but I did eat the day before, right? And I have great workouts, it's typically good pumps, and I'm really strong. So you used to always prepare for my workout with my food intake the day before, rather than the day of,

because I like the excess calories, the carbs, but I don't like the food feeling like I just ate. So I could go in with the slightly fasted feeling, but also have the energy from the day before. Next question is from Tommy James 81. Do you have an elevator pitch for trying to convince family members of the benefits of resistance training? Yeah, you know, by the way, one of mine pumps goals is to convince people of the benefits of resistance to strength. The reason for this is because today, even now, resistance to strength still is not considered the general health form of exercise for the average person.

When the average person is recommended to be more active, if you go to the doctor and the doctor is like, hey, you need to improve your activity or increase your activity or they think, God, I should really exercise more to improve my health. The average person typically doesn't think about resistance training. They don't think I'm going to lift weights. Like my mom doesn't think I need to be more active. I should go to the weights. She thinks I need to be more active.

I'm going to walk or get on the treadmill or swim or ride a bike. It's all cardiovascular type of activity. Nothing wrong with that, but if you compare them head to head and you had to pick just one, resistance training is superior. So here's the elevator pitch and you've probably heard us say this a million times on the podcast, but the same amount of time that you spend resistance training versus other forms of exercise yields you far greater results.

I can train someone for two hours a week. That's it, two hours a week. And over time, that two hours a week is gonna result in a much faster metabolism in an easier time maintaining a lean body weight than someone who did two hours a cardio a week or two hours of any other form of exercise. So the pitch is really this.

What do people really want? They want convenience, they don't wanna work out a lot. Average person's not working out, so how can I do more with less? Sell them on that. Sell them on the fact that you don't need to work out as much and resistance training will give you better results. It'll speed up your metabolism,

so you can sit there and burn more calories without having to do more exercise. Those, in my opinion, have been the best, like I think the best sales points, if you will, with resistance training. You know, this is really hard, right? Trying to convince a family member who doesn't want to work out to work out.

And I haven't had a lot of success with this at all. To the point where I've got to a point where I just don't even worry about it, I try and live my life as an example as best I can. Wait for them to ask. And wait for them to ask. And that in my opinion is one of the best. The other thing is this is,

this reminds me of something that I'm reading this book right now called Great Teams, 16 Things That All Great Teams Do, or something like that. And it's talking about leadership stuff. And it reminds me of the success that I have had, though, with some family getting through to them that wasn't working on them.

And the way I've got through to them is to make them feel something. Right? I could sit there and break the science down all day long and talk about the benefits of it and the difference of lean mass versus fat mass and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and try and sell, sell, sell them on it.

And for the most part, I'm not gonna get through to them. But if I can show them something and make them feel something, then maybe I can get the buy-in. And this is true in just leadership, but this is a very good and important thing to do with your staff and building a culture. And the same thing goes for leading your family into the gym.

And for me, I like to find something posture or aches and pains because I can show them something like right then and there that sometimes will just blow somebody's mind. Like somebody, I'll have a family member that's like, you know, complaining of chronic hip pain or low back pain or shoulder pain and they've just, and in their mind, they're just old. They're just old and it's always nagging them. And when I can get to the root of what's going on, if it's obviously not an acute injury where they tore something or broke a bone and it's just chronic pain, I can normally

give them a few movements to, to relieve it like instantly, right? That I'm there. And when they feel that and you just spent like five minutes with them doing something, that's the things that normally would, if I got somebody, that would perk them up. Because most people just, we all want to lose a little bit of body fat, build a little bit of muscle, look a little bit better. You're not gonna do that in a couple sessions. Right, you can't do that, right?

You can't even do that in a great workout. I can show you a workout, and it'd be an amazing workout, but you're not gonna give them that. But a good portion of my family deals with chronic pain. It's just as you age and get older, and if you haven't addressed your movement patterns, more than likely, your family member is dealing with either knee, hip, shoulder,

back, something. And if you learn and understand the body well enough or you have something like Maps Prime Pro, shame was plugged, but if you've got a tool like that and you can help them by showing them that. And then when they peel that, man, it's a lot easier to convince them on the importance of coming in and exercising and training. That to me has been the most success with a quote unquote, elevator pitch to somebody because I feel like I could try and sell you all day long on something and it just ain't gonna happen.

I've had a very similar experience. And mainly, mainly like waiting, you know, I waited out till they'll come ask, they obviously know what I do for a living. And so it's like, it presents itself sometimes to where I can kind of steer them in that direction, but usually it is through like some kind of a pain or some kind of a condition

or something they're going through that I know that, okay, this is gonna at least start building the conversation in that direction like For my dad for instance, he's been doing the same routine forever He goes to the spa and he does the stairmaster and he does all stuff and now he's experiencing all this repetitive stress pain and For me to just kind of take him through and show like You know how to correct that through mobility, but also through proper mechanics

and squatting and adding resistance to that, building strength around the hips and it's really been helping alleviate a lot of pain. I think pain is a very effective tool to really convince people that this is the best tool for the job,'s to get stronger overall. Like that's where you're gonna be in a place where, you know, doing the rest of your life is gonna be that much better. Your quality is just gonna go away.

Oh yeah, this is what you do as a trainer. When you would get a potential client, if you could show them what you could show them pain early. It's the best conversation. And one session, you're gonna get a new client. You ain't gonna show them fat loss, you're gonna show them muscle building you know that mean to be clear The only success I've ever had with convincing family members to do resistance training or ones who already made the decision to start working out

Yeah, then it's a matter of what kind of right? You know, so they come to me and say you know what I need to start exercising I think I'm gonna start right what do you think I should do? That's when the resistance training comes. You never walked up to one of your family members who is morbidly obese or has diabetes. You should start putting them in the belly. Yeah, yeah, and said, or had a pitch that got them all sun to wake up from training. Like those people aren't gonna live,

they weren't doing it before, they got to this place. They're not doing it now. You're like a dinner all of a sudden, you bring the projector out. Yeah. How the hell you. You know what though? So I was that trainer in my first early 20s.

So every while I was so excited, and the fact I know I remember like, I remember I had a fight with one of my buddies, like literally a fist fight over him. What? Yeah, I'm because he was so annoyed at hearing me like talk. We go on this annual trip. I know I've shared with you guys maybe off air,

maybe not on this show before, that we used to do this every year. We go to Lake Trinity, which is up in Chasta. We go there for 10 days, same friends, same people, like 50 people go and meet at these campsites and we go there. And I've been doing this since I was a kid. Well, after high school, college, and then moving to San Jose, then getting a job as a personal trainer, 20 years old, fell in love with a job.

I mean, we've all talked about this, like how much we were passionate about it. Hey, when you're truly passionate about something, you fucking talk about, it's been in your 20, and you don't have this, probably the social awareness or self awareness. To know that you're annoying everybody. Yeah, yeah, right?

So, but the people I'm talking to, they want to hear it, it's the other people that are always around me, like my best friend who I got in a fight with, is just like, because he was always constantly Yeah, all you do is talk. Yeah, yeah, tired, tired of hearing him hearing me talk about my job, but You know that's how I was I was trying to sell everybody on how amazing it is and while you need to do this and you know Nobody fucking was drinking the cool it except for myself, you know

So you learn as you get older and you've been in training for a long time. It's like anything else. People will have to want to do it first if they're going to do it. The best thing is just to be the example. When people start to wonder is why is Justin have so much energy or why does Adam always look so good? It's like pushing a religion on somebody. It's totally. It's like being a Bible thump.

Nobody likes that guy. No, just be the example. You want to be the person who they like oh my god I can't Salah's fucking almost You do it. I'm gonna do it. I can look how good he moves like tell me more You know next question is from that fly guy What's the best way to learn how to eat new healthy foods that you haven't enjoyed in the past? I can't stand salmon and most fish, but I want the health benefits. Can you teach yourself to like new foods? Oh, you completely. Dude, I've done this a lot lately. You totally can do this.

One of the big problems with, I guess, modern life and our food is that we've only learned to value food for its palatability. And if that's the only value you place on food, you're not gonna like a lot of stuff. You're gonna like only the stuff that is super hedonistic while you eat it. But you can make associations and by the way, food companies know this. They've been advertising to you in this way for a long time.

Once you, I'll give you an example. I'll tell a story. I've told the story before, but I love it because it was one of my favorite learning experiences with a client. I had a client that had one of the worst diets you've ever seen in a whole entire life. Never ate any vegetables ever, made her gag, made her throw up. Now over time, I slowly convinced her to at least try, I would tell her, eat one broccoli floret to start with once a week. And what she would do is she would track how she felt.

Why don't she go to the point where she was eating like a serving here and there, she started to write things down like digestion is better, mood feels better. I have more energy, my skin is starting to look better. As she started to make those connections and associate the vegetables with those good feelings. She started to actually desire to eat the broccoli.

She started to want to eat the broccoli. And because of that association, you actually learn to like the taste. You actually learn to enjoy the taste. This happened to me with fish. When I hated fish when I was a kid, could not stand fish whatsoever, then fast forward, I'm in my mid-twenties and I go to Italy. By this point, I started to really understand

good nutrition. I started to understand the value of fish. I said to myself, I'm going to Italy, it's a country-written Mediterranean, I'm going to have access to incredible fish. They eat a lot of fish there anyway. I'm going to go and I'm just going to try it, I'm gonna have access to incredible fish. They eat a lot of fish there anyway. I'm gonna go, and I'm just gonna try it. I'm just gonna try it. I'm gonna pay attention to how I feel. By the end of my vacation, I actually developed an appreciation for fish.

Now, don't get me wrong, a stake in terms of the taste and palatability kicks the crap out of fish for me. However, I went from someone who hated fish to someone now who had learned to enjoy it. So you totally, well, and if you're not a big fish eater, I wouldn't recommend jumping to salmon first either. I would recommend going somewhere like sea bass,

mahi mahi, halibut, like the wider fishes. Like if you're not a fish lover, salmon has a strong fish salmon taste, unless you have like, if you go somewhere and get, and that's to me, when you find amazing salmon is when strong fish salmon taste unless you have like if you go somewhere and get That's what to me when you find amazing salmon is when it doesn't taste fishy Right like amazing really good fresh salmon. Yeah, it doesn't taste fishy But if you're not a fish lover already and you go directly to salmon. It's not a good place to start You I would always start somebody off with the halibut the sea bass the mahi mahi and trying to think what else I loved it

Yeah, so got me into it was a halibut, the sea bass, the mahi mahi, I'm trying to think what else I'd love to. Yeah, that's what got me into it. It was the halibut. Yeah, my god, those are amazing. They use meaty taste to it. It's meaty, it doesn't taste fishy. It even has this buttery, it just doesn't taste anything like salmon. Salmon is fishy, and it took me a long time

to like like salmon. And I was just like you, Sal, I didn't like fish at all. And it took me a long, except for tuna and grounded in mayonnaise when I was a kid, right? So that's how I ate that when I was a kid. Other than that, I ate no fish till I got older. Same thing, had to like kind of make myself like it. And I did too, because everyone talks about all

that the benefits of salmon. We all know that salmon is like one of the most nutrient rich fish that you can get. So as I started to learn about that, I began to try and force myself to eat salmon and it was rough for me to do that. Then I found halibid and seabass and all these other fishes and I'm like,

oh my God, I love those. Then I got used to eating that a lot and then having salmon different ways. And now I mean, my favorite thing to have is salmon shashimi. I'll eat raw salmon now, I love that. Yeah, it's funny. I mean, this favorite thing to have is salmon sashimi. Like I'll eat raw salmon. Now I love that. Yeah, it's funny. I mean, this is still a bit of a struggle for me as you guys know, like in terms of like sushi and everything else and eating fish in general. But like I still have a really good association with it to start with because I fished. Like I would fish.

Makes the difference. And then I would cut and do the like I would, you know, like got it and everything and cook it myself. And it was like fantastic. But, you know, somewhere along the lines, I went away from it. And then I had a bad experience because I was like eating it in the Midwest somewhere. And it was just like, I had just like bad examples of fish. So I think, you know, to kind of, you know, rekindle that, like it does make sense to go somewhere where you're like right next to the coast or you're near a lake or, you know, rekindle that, like, it does make sense to go somewhere where you're like, right next to the coast or you're near a lake or, you know, make sure you're in a fresh spot.

And it's not like being transferred there from somewhere else and just start like slowly, you know, incorporating it back in. And I'm trying, even right now, like, I tolerate it. Like if somebody serves it to me, I'm gonna eat it. You know, it's fine, but I'm not seeking it out like I should be. But yeah, the same thing with vegetables. I mean, I grew up and it was like, I mean, looking back now too, because my dad was an only child and he would actually, my grandma was sick all the time, so he actually cooked for

everybody in his family, even as a kid. And so, you know, as a kid, what do you want to eat? It's all bland. It's, you know, it's very simple, like microwavables crap. And so, like, that was his palate. And then he brought that into our family. And then we were just eating, like, an example of a salad was like iceberg lettuce

and celery and carrots and like ranch. And like, that's what I grew up with, you know what I mean? And so, it's taken, I've taken a lot of steps and I get a hard time everywhere I go, you know, from Courtney and her family. But like I've done a lot of work on this and like I'm eating. Association's to food is a real thing.

Look, to most Americans, if you walk into a market and you smell a strong fish smell, most of us are like, oh that's gross. In Asian countries, it's not. To them, the association is totally different. They smell the fishy smell from a market. It's like, yes, I'm around really good food. They get hungry, probably. That's right. It's the associate, like Jessica did the same thing. She grew up eating zero vegetables as a kid. Zero. She ate nothing. She almost subsist as entirely on heavily processed food. As she

got older and learned about health, she slowly introduced vegetables, started to identify the value that was providing her body, built that association, and now she loves vegetables. Oh, I was the same one, we didn't, it wasn't until even Doug, I hated Brussels sprouts, IE Brussels sprouts, bowls as well. That's my go-to, every week now.

Dude, that used to be a food that we made fun of as kids. Yeah. You remember that? Yeah, disgustingly well. Oh, totally. Think about it this way. Here's another good example. I bet most people have a food that they ate as a kid that they associated with like fun

or something like that. That if you didn't have that association, it would literally be disgusting. Like I'll give you an example. Macaroni and cheese in the box, right? Crafth macaroni and cheese. It's gross. That's good. It be disgusting. Like I'll give you an example, macaroni and cheese in the box, right? Craft macaroni and cheese. It's gross. It's good. It's disgusting.

But you know what? I associated it with... Chop up some hot dogs in it. Oh, terrible. Yeah. It's garbage, but when I was a kid, when I was a kid, when I was a kid, when we would have my cousins over,

I had cousins that liked it for whatever reason. And so it was like the special treat, and you know, my mom would be like, whatever I'll buy it for, and she'd make it. And it was this fun food. So now to this day, if I smell it or I taste it, I have that positive fun association. No, you're so right.

You can 100% train yourself this way. It just takes time, but start to associate your food with its other values besides just the hedonistic value of it. Otherwise, you'll be stuck eating the processed, hyper-palatable foods or the foods you grew up eating that you're super used to. And with that, go to mindpumpfree.com

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