Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1241: Adjusting Creatine Intake on Non-training Days, Ways to Get Quality Sleep When Working Shifts, Finding Balance as a Professional Athlete & More

Episode Date: March 4, 2020

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about whether creatine intake should differ on non-training days, how to get quality sleep when working shifts, becoming a professional athlete with a balanced lifestyle, and what to consider before leaving a big box gym to become an independent trainer. Importance of your mindset when going into a workout. (6:11) Study: Eating a junk food diet undermines your memory and self-control.  (14:23) Mind Pump,  BIG Group Class guys. (17:33) Hugo Boss’s connection to a certain regime. (25:50) The blood bath that is the Stock Market. (29:11) Is Bitcoin on the rise again? (32:28) Mind Pump making a BIG push to focus on their other platforms. (35:21) Resistance training and Alzheimer's. (37:39) The unintentional consequences of school mandated policies. (43:27) #Quah question #1 – When supplementing with creatine should your intake differ on non-training days? (50:41) #Quah question #2 - How can you get quality sleep when working shifts? (57:32) #Quah question #3 – Do you believe it is possible to become a professional athlete with a balanced lifestyle? (1:03:04) #Quah question #4 – As a trainer, what should you consider before leaving a big box gym to become an independent trainer? (1:07:48) Related Links/Products Mentioned March Promotion: MAPS Powerlift ½ off! **Code “POWER50” at checkout** Hippocampal-dependent appetitive control is impaired by experimental exposure to a Western-style diet The Genius Life: Heal Your Mind, Strengthen Your Body, and Become Extraordinary (Genius Living) - Book by Max Lugavere Mind Pump 1237: Why Most Group Exercise Classes Suck Why Did Joe Lycett Just Change His Name To Hugo Boss? History Hyenas - YouTube Bitcoin: Millions of dollars of cryptocurrency 'lost' after man dies with only password Mind Pump TV - YouTube Mind Pump Podcast - YouTube Strength training can protect brain from degeneration in those at risk of Alzheimer's disease A middle school requires kids to dance with anyone who asks. One mom is fighting for her daughter’s right to say ‘no.’ Visit Legion Athletics for the exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code “mindpump” at checkout** Visit Felix Gray for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Visit Brain.fm for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners. You are probably not getting enough sleep, and it is killing you Joe Rogan Experience #1169 - Elon Musk Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Max Lugavere (@maxlugavere)  Instagram Mike Matthews (@muscleforlifefitness)  Instagram

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. Mite, op, mite, op with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. Welcome to Mime Pump. This is the world's top fitness and health and entertainment podcast that you'll find anywhere. In this episode, we answer fitness and health questions asked by listeners like you and in the beginning of the episode We talk about scientific studies. We talk about our own training Issues that are happening. We mentioned sponsors often. Here's what we talked about in this episode of mind pump We started by talking about mindset and lifting how you go into your workout mindset wise can really dictate whether or not you succeed

It makes a big difference. Fail. Then I talk about the study on junk food and memory. Apparently eating junk food can negatively affect your memory and your self control in your brain. That's kind of crazy. Weird. Then we talked about the group class episode we did recently.

Got a little bit of heat. Adam talks about that. Then Justin brought up Hugo Boss and how they designed the Nazi uniforms. Hey, uncomfortable fact. Didn't know that. I talked about how we are seeing the worst week in the market since 2008, so things seem to be going down,

which brought us to talk about Bitcoin and how some people have lost all their Bitcoin money because they lost their code. That's kind of crazy. We talked about all of the avenues in which you can consume our awesome fitness content, all the different platforms, so make sure you listen to that part. Then we talked about resistance training in Alzheimer's. There's a study that showed for the first time ever that an intervention

was able to stop Alzheimer's. You won't want to miss that part. And then we talked about a middle school that apparently became communist. Then we really grind my gears. Then we got into the fitness questions. The first question is, when I'm supplementing with Crating, should I take a different amount on the days that I work out versus the days that I don't work out? So we talk all about Crating there. That's a supplement that we're all definitely in favor of. Now you may be wondering which brand or where should I get

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Teacher and it's teacher time. Oh shit. You know, it's my favorite time of the week. Wooey. Me too. We have four winners, two for iTunes and two for Facebook. For iTunes, we have Robbie Masso and Ninja Cat 76. For Facebook, we have Sarah Elizabeth Lynn and Brian Wall. All of you are winners and the name I just read to iTunes at mindpumpmedia.com, include your shirt size and your shipping address and we'll get that shirt right out to you. Stop talking with your mouth fully, disgusting. No, I'm saying.

But you guys are gross. Adam is eating on the podcast by far the most. Don't think there's a bodybuilding day. I've never eaten on the podcast, never once. Really? No. I'll contest it. You have an awful memory.

No, that's the best memory in this room. Yeah. No. I'll contest. You have an awful memory. No. That's the best memory in this room. Yeah. That's not saying much. That's true. No, you're not winning that way. You have to don't earn a CTE patient over here. Yeah.

I was like, I got the best memory in the room. Here's your ribbon. Yeah. I had to go. I had to people with brain damage. My memory is the best. Oh. Boy, oh boy.

Speaking of the brain, I did a post the other day. It's got a lot of, what's the word on extraction? Speaking of memory, I forgot the word. It's got a lot of people. You do well. On mindset, I talked about the importance of your mindset, when you go into a workout. We talked so much about mindset and the health

and fitness space, but it's more like, you gotta have a positive mindset, you gotta think good things, like I said, I'm not talking about that, although that's important. I'm talking about the mindset you go into your workout with because that will dictate whether or not whatever phase you're working out in is successful or not. Like think about the mindset when you're gonna go into lift heavy.

You know what I mean? You wanna be tight, you wanna be stable. It's about maximizing leverage, lifting as much weight as possible. Focus, though different though, right? Because if I'm going there to train like body sculpting or bodybuilding, the focus is totally different. I'm not trying to think of maximum leverage. In fact, oftentimes with bodybuilding and Adam,

I know you know exactly what I'm talking about. You're thinking, you're actually thinking the opposite of maximum leverage. I'm trying to make the exercise harder, which is totally different. You know, like when you banch or when you squat or when you do an exercise, like how can I make this lightweight? Can I make my muscles work more in this?

Yeah, like how can I make this lightweight feel as heavy as possible? How can I focus on the squeeze and the pump? Total opposite from heavy lifting. And then there's correctional exercise, which is neither of those things. When I'm doing correctional exercise, the mindset is connect to the muscle

in trin-zic tension, totally, totally different. The mindset is so powerful that you could take a program that is written exactly the same and create complete novelty without changing any exercises sets reps or weights. Just by the mindset. Just by the mindset. 110%.

So I gotta know the intent going into it. And this is one of my favorite things about being somebody who's never been attached to a modality or a box or I've never allowed anyone to put me in this category. Sometimes you're like that song from White Snacks. You can't do it. You can't put me in a box. Gann on my own. You're just stupid. You're just a free man. You know because you can't do it. You can't put me in a box. Yeah, I know, Mike.

You're just stupid. You're just a free man. I, you know, because you can go to the gym. Like a free bird. You can go to the gym. And I, or I can go to the gym, same exercise, everything. And I can think like an athlete

and move explosively and train with that mindset. I can go and think of, I'm going in like a power lifter mentality and I'm looking to get out exert the most amount of force and weight and move the most at Puzzle Can. And then I can go in like a body builder and try and feel every part of the exercise and get and chase the pump.

And it can be a total different feel. And even get, I believe, a different adaptation, even though we're doing the same movement, same everything, but because I changed my mindset into how I'm training, I think makes that big of a difference. Totally. And this is the main reason. This is the number one reason why, if you, if you're listening right now

and you follow a maps program, you notice, we put you in phases that last three to five weeks, rather than mixing up different modalities or different styles within the same week. Because studies will show that you could do low reps, medium reps, high reps in the same week, and compare that to doing low reps for three weeks, doing medium reps for three weeks and high reps for three weeks.

And the results will be about the same. So people like, why don't I just mix it up all the time? It's the mindset. And when I'm in a phase of heavy lifting, I want to stay in that mindset every time I work out. When I'm in a phase of body building or correctional exercise, I want to be in that mindset the whole time

because you're not just, and correct me if I'm wrong, you don't just train the body, you also train the mindset. Have you guys noticed when you go through a correctional exercise phase, how it takes you like three or four works out workouts to get into that mindset, to really get the mindset going,

you're training that just as much as you're training the body? I mean, that's essential. And I mean, each one of those components is a new skill. I mean, if you're, and you have to take time in that skill to really develop that skill, and the practice of it is, if you're, and you have to take time in that skill to really develop that skill and the practice of it is what, you know, the intention is going into each one of those different ventures. And so, you know, like they all look different, but it's important

for you to stay in that same space. So then, yes, you will be able to get better and refine that process going towards that skill. Dude, you're training. I remember who has I talking to, I was talking to, I think I was on a podcast and when interviewed me and was asking me about cognitive performance and like what exercises and what workouts are best for the brain. And it dawned on me.

We always separate the mind from the body, the brain from the body, like they're two separate things. Really effective training, trains your body and your brain because where's your brain? It's part of your body. The mind comes from the brain. So that might, when you're training yourself, you want to be as effective as possible.

You're not just training the body, you're also training the mind, and that's what creates the most effective program. It's always what makes things the most effective. So- What was your answer to that when they asked? Oh, well, I mean, if we had, okay, ultimately, what I said was number one, the healthy body's gonna produce the best results.

So if you're really healthy, you're gonna get the most cognitive improvement or the best cognitive performance. That being said, if we wanna break it down even further into smaller categories and find, okay, besides being said, if we want to break it down even further into smaller categories and find, okay, besides being healthy, what's the best form of exercise for the brain resistance training? Because other forms of exercise tend to be repetitive. They tend to be mindless.

So, yeah, wouldn't you say it's just, it's simply the complexity of it. It's the complexity. You have to be really present. Like, think about running on a treadmill or riding a stationary bike. When you first do it, you gotta think about what you're doing. But then after about 10 minutes, we've all done this. We've done a treadmill.

You just, you're just moving. Your body's just moving and you're thinking of other things. That has its own value, but you're not exercising the brain like you would be when you're lifting weights. When you're lifting weights, you're, when you're doing a set, you are present. You can't mindlessly, I mean, you can mindlessly lift weights, but that's a terrible way to do it

and it's never taught that way, at least not the right way. You have to be present with the exercise because you're moving a different ranges of motion, your different planes, it's different exercises, you're training your brain, and then from a physiological standpoint, you know, when we look at cognitive impairment like dementia Alzheimer's, there's a very strong connection

between that and the brain's inability to utilize glucose for energy. This is why when you take someone with dementia and Alzheimer's and you put them on a ketogenic diet, we see cognitive improvement. You don't always see this with everybody, but with people with dementia and Alzheimer's, when they're running on ketones, we've known this for a long time, they have cognitive improvement,

and they think it's because, and we actually probably know this now, it's because their brain was not utilizing glucose very well, well, muscle is a phenomenal insurance against insulin insensitivity because muscle is very insulin sensitive. Muscle also stores glycogen. As far as the tissues are concerned, it stores a lot of glycogen except for maybe compared

to the liver. So when you build muscle, you're more insulin sensitive. So now utilizing glucose better. And then of course, you're exercising the brain. It's the best form of exercise for brain health. When you wrote for Max's book, he had you write a chapter in there, right? Is that right?

No, what he did was I contributed by you. Yeah, yeah. So I looked over what he wrote and let him know that what he said was correct or incorrect or whatever. Did he point this out? Did he talk? Yeah, we talked about, he made a little point about how resistance training was a very effective way

to speed up the metabolism to less time spent, yields you better results because of that, for brain health. I made all these cases to him, so he did include some of that in the book, which, great book, like I obviously knows what he's talking about, so. Yeah, it's really, really good stuff.

And then speaking of the mind of the brain, dude, the study came out on junk food. You're gonna love this one. Yeah, let me pull this one up. So they did a study on junk food and they found that eating junk food. So I'm gonna read it right now. A new study is found that consuming a Western style diet, rich, and junk food. So heavily processed foods can subtly, yet rapidly, repair brain function in your hippocampus. So they did study where they had people eat a junk food diet and then they were imaging the hippocampus and they were seeing that it was affecting the hippocampus negatively. Now, there's

no coincidence here that that brain region is associated with memory and ready for this, appetite, regulation. That's why, have you noticed when you eat junk food, you start to crave it more and more? Yeah, isn't that crazy? Now a critic would say that the main factor in that study probably was that they were in a caloric surplus versus a deficit.

And had they been in a deficit eating junk food, would it produce the same result? You know, I'm not sure. I can look up the study, but I think they, I think they did control for calories, but I'm not sure. Oh, that would be interesting. Yeah, and so I'm not quite sure,

but you might be right, dude, because high calories tends to always have a negative effect on us. Yeah, you know, that's the only thing that ever worries me about studies like that, that even though I think it obviously, it aligns with our message and it supports what we're, I think, we're trying to explain to most people that are the avoiding processed foods, which I think we all stand by that statement. But then we reference a study like that and it's like, okay, well, if the calories were,

you know, a thousand extra calories and that person should be consuming every day, is it more because of the junk fooders or more because they were in such a high surplus? It's interesting, but that also counts for like, some people's feeling of brain fog, you know, based off of their nutrition and everything else, you know, your poor memory.

Totally, when I eat bad, I notice that, you know, my main motivation for eating healthy these days is because the podcast and what we do is staying sharp. Yeah, we used to be to change my body composition, look good. It is pretty funny that we eat performance to talk. Yeah, but it is, it's true.

Like we've experimented with a lot of different things too. A fleet still. Huh, totally. Are we considered athletes? Yeah, I got a headband. My job muscles were really strong. You know what though, back to what you said about calories, what's one of the number one things

that heavily processed foods promote? Yeah, eating more calories. So it's like, you know, they do their studies and they find people, when they do control for macros, God, that study, that one study they did was, it was a crossover, it was really well made. They had two groups of people, they controlled for macros, one group had an unlimited access to unprocessed whole natural foods. they had two groups of people that controlled for macros.

One group had unlimited access to unprocessed whole natural foods. It was in a lab, that's why I like about this, totally controlled. The other group had unlimited access to heavily processed foods, but the macros were very similar. Then they switched the groups after a certain period of time, just to see if it was maybe just the group or, and each time they had unlimited access to heavily processed food, they ate five on average, 500 more calories every single day.

Have you guys been getting a lot of response from the latest episode that we did about group classes? I've seen a few people share it. Lots of people sharing it. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, you know, how many people disagree? I didn't, I expected more of a backlash for that one, because I know the first time I came out, and maybe it was because you said,

big group exercise should die. That's a, that's a bit of a harsh stance at them. I'm gonna put some in the corner like, what? Yeah, yeah. That's probably why I'm trying to fight their way out. It's more fun to defend it when it's that way, you know. Yeah, if you just,

pussy foot around it, it's no fun. And I said, yeah, it should, no, you know, somebody asked me in my questions today that, you know, they heard that episode and she likes to, you know, cycle, I think she said once or twice a week, it's like a cycle bar class and what was my thoughts on that. And I said, if you, if you do cycling, a cycling

or a group class for this manner, and you are in the aesthetic shape that you like, and it is something that helps maintain your fitness and you enjoy it, by all means, I think it's really good. I really do. If you take a cardio, kickboxing class, you take an orange theory class, and you're already in the current shape,

and you're happy with your physique where you're at and this is something that you do and you enjoy the community of it, you enjoy all. Yeah, you're healthy, you know, your body. Yes, I said I don't have a problem with it. In fact, I think it's a great thing. My message is to the people that are frustrated and trying to change their body composition and that is the the modality that frustrated and trying to change their body composition. And that is the modality that they choose to go about it.

That's where I think it's a terrible idea. It's a terrible idea if you're still struggling to lose that 15 to 20 pounds or you wanna build your butt or you want, you have a look you're trying to obtain or a body fat percentage you wanna get down to and your methods of going after that is through group training, i.e. cycling or theories,

f-45, then it's a terrible idea. And that's the unfortunate thing to attract. Right, and so that was my point, but the reason why I actually said that is I actually clicked on the girls profile, I saw she was in grade shape. I saw that she was already in grade shape, and it made me rethink the way I would respond to this,

because the quick response would have been like terrible idea. And I thought, wait a second, that's not necessary, true Adam. Like, there's nothing wrong with somebody. You talked yourself like that. I do. I do.

I really do do that. You say your name and everything. Yeah, yeah, listen up. Come on Adam. Stop thinking that Adam. Come on guy. You're handsome. Yeah, yeah.

Oh Adam, you always think these things. Do you guys remember the last time that we, it's actually the only time we all, all of us took a group class together? Do you guys remember? Oh, the bar class. No, it was the bar, we didn't do the drums.

Remember, we did the drumsticks. Yeah, we did the drumsticks too. We did that too, we were just. Dude, that was so dumb, dude. You know what made me, a no wait about that? This has happened to me before. It was a fan of you. I know, whatever. I've offended by that. I know whatever.

I've taken a few group classes in the past and because of the way I look, the goal of the instructor is to fuck the hammer you with weird stuff. Yeah, so we, and we never aired it, right? So there was this great idea, it wasn't great, obviously we never aired it, but we were gonna go take,

this goes in the box of not great areas. It's one of the few things we never heard we were gonna go and take a bar class And because you know we're you know meet heads or whatever looking guys We're gonna do this bar class is gonna be silly and it's gonna be funny Yeah, and the instructor of course seriously, oh, and she looked at us and she's like, oh, I'm gonna destroy you meet heads And she did Destroy us. We were I think why him. I think why we couldn't put it out there was I think that was and that was where I or at least I personally struggled with

it. What's that? I think she was so passionate about what she was doing and you know really, really believed in what she was teaching and it would have been hard for us to talk about it without completely kind of shitting on it. So, and I think that just are, I think all of our integrity. It would have been mean. Yeah, that was a little mean story. That would be exactly. We took this person's time, they gave us one on one time,

they took us through all these classes, she was excited about it, toured us with the facility, and if we were to talk about it, there's no way I think we could talk about it in the light. Like, hey, this is great, you guys should all do it. It was more like, this is what? We saw instantly, this is why, this is so bad. You know, this is, get all this short and range of motion,

pumping stuff, all you're doing is chasing the burn, all you're doing is chasing fatigue, all you're doing is trying to crush them. It's applicable for certain dancers. That's what it kind of came from. Sure, it came for, because certain dancers that need to maintain all dance moves.

Well, they need to maintain certain postures and certain stabilities and look a particular way while they're doing their movements. Right. Then it makes sense. But as it work out, doesn't make any sense. Yeah, that was interesting.

Yeah, yeah. Have you guys done any group classes in the past like that? Have you guys taken any group classes ever? I mean, in terms of just as a big sum, how was real Big Enzooba? Yeah, I like to shake my hips. No, I, I mean, I took it, we talked about this. I did CrossFit when it first came out.

Like I did like one or two classes and realized like how ridiculously insane it was. Never drank the Kool-Aid. Never. Never drank it. Like it was, in a course, like, because I reckon I checked myself right away where I was like getting totally like swept into the momentum

of, you know, I see everybody else doing things. I'm like, I'm stronger than you. I'm gonna do this and then like loadin' all the weight up and didn't realize I had to sprint right after that and be like, oh, shit. What is happening in here? And it just, and then I immediately, it was like, well, this is so ass and I,

and who would do this? And then it became a thing. And that's why I'm not invited on podcasts about the last one. Because I just talk so much shit. That's so fucking, yeah. I don't wanna say what's going on to many details, but there was a CrossFit podcast

that explicitly said, we want to interview Salad Adam. Salad Adam. Yeah. All right. No, they didn't know the name of the other guy. No problem. That is it.

They're like, shit, I don't know the name of the other guy. So let's just say Salad Adam, maybe we'll just include him. I have so many friends in the space too. It's so funny. Cause like, I used to love doing, like I would do not necessarily group training, but like we would all kind of collectively do something

in the same space, you know, like the team would have, like sort of an agenda. And then we would like take our own workout and apply our workout, but we were all like, we had this camaraderie in this community, but we were doing different things. Like we weren't like all structured with somebody up there, like, you know, doing the cadence for us really.

I picture Doug being like a big group back guy back in days. Yeah. Like you see him with his like, you know, his leg warmers and stuff. And those squat and then the side leg raise things have been like, you know, a big group back guy. Not man and Doug was bodybuilding man back in the day. He was following all the routines,

and he was like, you with a fishnet shirt. That's what he was doing. Oh, half those, half. The gloves with like the new fingers. I didn't have those. Yeah, I did have them. Did have them. What did you mean, hold on, what did you have the fishnet shirt?

No, no, no, the gloves. So, yeah. Dude, that was a thing for a while., no, no, the gloves. So yeah. Dude, that was a thing for a while. I had the gloves. I had the gloves simply because I saw rocks. You were garden gloves, didn't you? No, no, no, no, no.

I wore the rocky gloves, dude. I saw Rocky wear them. You know when I wore them? Of course you did. It's embarrassing. I wore them to school. No, you didn't. You wore gloves to school.

Did you have a bouncy ball on your head? You wore. A whole lot of seconds. A whole more. Great lifting gloves to school. Oh, they were rocky gloves. Bro, I wish there's, tell me there's a picture of this somewhere. Somewhere.

Somewhere. A leather jacket. I wore the glove. The sleeveless sweatshirt. And at no, I wore the, Did you wear the wife-beater? Did you? And the, and the leather jacket.

Did you have like one of those things like Goody Strong, you You know on goonies where you had the chest expander? Yeah. Stupidest exercise. The strings is just on the strings. You can't get in your sister's hair, but it all out. So they used to have, but anyway, look Justin,

I'm not feel bad for you for not getting a bite of the podcast. That's what you get because every time we meet people who listen to mine pump, Justin's my favorite. That's what you get. It is. Hey, that's fine. Now you know what it feels like.

Ah, I'm discluded. You know what I'm saying? Anyway. Yesterday, Justin, you brought up this story and you didn't finish. And I wanted to hear it. I wanted to wait till we got on air. So I could hear it for the first time. Is the Hugo Boss?

Oh, yes. So, okay. So I actually came across this because I've been listening to a comedy podcast and the history hyenas, like one of my favorite new podcasts out there. And they just like talk about the most ridiculous things in history. And one of them they brought up was the fact that

they're like, okay, you know, not uniforms. I mean, let's say like they're responsible for some of the most atrocities, you know, the worst things about humanity, all the stuff, but I mean, let's all just be honest with ourselves. Like they had really good style. What? And I was like, oh my God. Right? And they're like, yeah, well, you know why? Because Hugo Boss is basically behind the designing all of those uniforms. No way. Is that how they started? Is that true story?

That's how Hugo Boss got like elevated to where they are now. Well, the Volkswagen was a car that Hitler's, you know, regime also designed. It was the people's car. Exactly. And in that, I knew that horse and everything else as a result. And the Mitsubishi's sign was from the, I think the Japanese zeros, if I wasn't mistaken, the fighter, the planes that they had.

So, what? Yeah. Well, they ripped off a lot of stuff. I mean, even with the swastika, you go, oh, wow, look at that. Yeah, all those, like, like, it's a very distinctive look. And the thing is, like, it, it just sounds, it's funny and it's ridiculous to talk about,

but they had really good style. Yeah, right. Yeah, that's hilarious. I didn't even know that Hugo Boss has had really good style. Yeah, right. Yeah, that's hilarious. I didn't even know that Hugo Boss has been around that long. Yeah, a long time, dude. When did they first start? Obviously from there, right? Yeah.

What about, isn't there, didn't Bayer, wasn't Bayer like, I mean, how do you, okay, how do you do, what I want to know, this is, I mean, they were tied into Agent Orange and all that stuff. No, that's, that's Monsanto. Monsanto made Agent Orange. Justly. Did they go, so did the history of how you guys did, No, that's that's a that's a month's son toe month's on to made agent orange

Justin did they go so did the history of any guys did they go into how they made the leap From that to being over like a huge popular brand in the US. I mean I rock Hugo Boss at one point for sure No, they just went off about like 1924 yeah, and mincing in Germany hmm Wow Hugo Boss is often styled as boss as a German luxury fashion house, headquarters in Minson-Gin. It was founded in 1924 by Hugo Boss. And it originally produced general purpose clothing. With the rise of the Nazi party in the 1930s, Boss began to produce and sell Nazi uniform.

So he was, that existed before the Nazi party. That makes it worse. You took advantage of the situation. Yeah, that makes it worse. You got to be contracts, but that's the thing. Like, I mean, some of these companies, you know, like they're gonna get big government money to like produce for, like, I mean,

there's all kinds of dark sides to a lot of companies that people don't realize. Oh, dude, Bayer. See, I knew Bayer had also something connected to the Nazi. Oh, my God. They made the gas. They made the gas. That's what they did.

That's here, right? Is that what it is, Doug? I'm pretty sure that they're responsible. They're responsible for the gas, bro. Wow. Yes. Well, hey, you know, they don't do that anymore, do they? I just took some gas.

That's a good spirit. Solid pivot, you know? Yes. That's a real solid pivot. That's terrible. That's a good spring solid pivot, you know Yeah, dude we are you guys watching the markets right now as of the airing of this episode Are you guys seeing that this is like the worst drop in in the market? Did we I mean do we not know this was I mean we all see what what comes up or what goes up must come down I mean we are all said what comes up or what goes up must come down. We are on this unbelievable record run. I was a bull market forever.

Yeah, we hadn't seen say it was only, it was a matter of time before we saw it level out a little bit. What I find interesting is a lot of this is because of the coronavirus in my case. Totally because the fundamentals, although there's some scary stuff to go on, we have a lot of debt. The Fed keeps injecting fake money into the market. And so at some point, there's going to be a market correction where all this malinvestment, you know, we're going to be, we've got the wrecking with all of it.

But right now, what it looks like is coronavirus. Lots of fears around coronavirus. Oh no, what's it gonna do the market? So people are pulling their money out. So we've had a three day just blood bath, just drop. You know, although it's still, it's a huge drop, but we're still, I don't think we've gone lower than 2018. So although we've had a huge drop, we're still way up

because of how far we came. Well, yeah, but is the, how close is close is the, the drop in relation to 2008? Is it, it's, that's what I mean. Like, we still haven't gone below the market, what the market was in 2018. Yeah, I know. I don't think. But just a big drop, though. Yeah, that so I know we're not, and I doubt we're going to ever go back that low.

Yeah, I know. But I mean, what about the, what I'm talking about is the variance. Is variance close to that? Like, what the, what the truck? Because we were nowhere near as high as we are now. No, this is since 2008, not compared to 2008 crash. Yes. No, that was different.

Yeah. And that was based on something totally different. This, because the fundamentals are mixed, but there's some good news like unemployment, GDP, you know, even though we had a trade war and all stuff, GDP still grew over 2%. So there's still good fun. Here's what's going to be very interesting.

I'm going to make this prediction right now. This is going to be used as a weapon by the Democrat party to criticize the current administration, how they're handling the situation. Fear is a great way to make the current administration look bad. So if they can capitalize on this, and're going to politicians or experts at I mean I would if I was on that side I would look at this you're always itching for some some kind of something to like throw them down Yeah, so I'm like, oh here's something's going on. Let's how can we twist this in a way to make ourselves?

You know kind of look better But if the market keeps going down. Oh boy. It's to be an interesting election. Do you think it's going to? I don't think it's going to. I don't know, man, because it was so high for so long, people were always like, oh, is it going to drop? And then they just needed this one thing. So I don't know, dude, we'll see, dude. And you think it's related to the coronavirus completely?

Or was it what other factors you think? That's it. It's all the news. That's coming out. It's just the news. And they're going to get scared. Yeah, and people are getting scared because it's spreading all over the world and this and it's still, it's still, it's not, I mean, objectively, and I want to get an expert on this. I'm not a, none of us are experts on infectious

diseases, but from what I've read objectively, this is nowhere near as scary as the flu. Yeah, just the regular flu. No, I don't. I don't pay any attention to my stocks or my Bitcoin. It's not good for my blood pressure. So you are, you were mentioning the other day that Bitcoin was on the rise again. It did and it went back down, but typically if the, if trust in the dollar goes down, gold goes up and then Bitcoin has been a little bit like that too, because it's an alternative currency.

Dude, I read an article on Bitcoin that was hilarious though. Did Facebook ever end up like really creating their own version? That's in the work still. It's in the work still. I remember they released like an announcement about that. So there was this dude in, I think he was in Ireland who had six, he owned 6,000 bitcoins and he had it spread across 12 accounts to just a guard against losing this crypto fortune

So it's something like worth like 58 million dollars, right in American in American money And he printed all the codes out on a piece of paper That way he could you would remember what the codes were or whatever anyway on a piece of paper, that way he could, he would remember what the codes were or whatever. Anyway, he was also apparently growing marijuana in his house, got busted, the landlord went in there and threw everything away, including the codes to his Bitcoin.

You know that? That's his only access. That's it. He lost all of it. Oh wow. That's it. He has no access to his $58 million. That's the one thing about

Bitcoin. Well, I'm going to this right now. So I have two different wallets, right? I have a trash. I'm going. I'm going. Binance and I have Coinbase. And the other day I was talking to you know, I can't fucking remember my Coinbase. And so I've got money locked up in that. And we've been playing like the freaking password game right now trying to remember. Well, nothing you can do. It's like a bank I can call him be like, Hey, my and we've been playing the frickin' password game right now, trying to remember what was it? Nothing you could do, right, it's like a bank, I can call and be like, hey, my social security, here's my social security number.

And you know, if you do that with a bank, right, you forget your login password. Oh yeah, they have other steps you can take. Yeah, I could live for God's password and I could go those routes. Can't retrieve it. Yeah, wow. You're totally screwed.

There was another guy, there was another dude in the UK who threw out a hard drive That stored 127 million dollars with the Bitcoin quote quote codes and then there was another guy in Canada who And he died a couple of years ago and he left behind 190 million dollars in cryptocurrency because he died and he was the only one with the password so his family Is that staying circulation or what? Like how does that, it just sits there then. I get, yeah. It's just there and it's gone forever.

Do you know how frustrated could you imagine? It's insane, dude. You lost the code? Yeah, I'm mad over a couple of grand right now. Could you imagine millions of dollars? That's crazy, right? Oh, God. But anyway, so this is gonna be an interesting time

because the economy crushing, or at least the perception of a good economy, is what it was making Trump appear to be basically invincible. It's a bullf**k. But if the economy takes the dump, or people are at least that perceive the economy to be taking a dump, oh, oh. Hey, I wanted to bring something up on the podcast

and keep forgetting to talk about it. We're making a push right now to start to pick up the interaction on all of our other platforms. So we've put a lot of energy and effort towards the podcast and we are probably most active on Instagram. And we've really treated our YouTube channels kind of like the red headed step shot. We just, it's the, I wonder if that's the thing. We love you, Ginger.

I wonder if that's considered offensive nowadays. I'm sure everything is offensive today, right? So, and what I mean by that is we just, it's the last order of operation for us on the things that we worry about on a day to day basis, and we're trying to put more energy and focus on that. And it's continued to grow rapidly, both the Mind Pump TV YouTube

and then also the Mind Pump Podcast YouTube. So a lot of people may not know this, but we take, like when we do a Q&A like today, is we have the whole episode recorded and then Andrew actually goes through and clips every single question. So I get this all the time where I have a family friend who's like, you know, I really wanna share that topic

you guys talked about the other day when you were covering deadlift. Or, oh, when you guys were talking about gut health the other day and it's like, well, if you go to the Mind Pump podcast YouTube channel, all the questions are broken up and individual questions and then, you know, it then just that five or eight minute clip where Doug reads the question

and then we go in and we answer it, really easy to share. And one of the best ways to get notified when all that stuff gets put up is to make sure that when you subscribe to the channel that you click the little bell to get the notification. So after you subscribe to the two channels, hit the notification so we get notified

when the new content comes up. And a lot more visits with the boys and I on the YouTube channel for Mind Pump TV. And then that's something that we've been progressing on. You guys ever see can see a handsome wear? Or not? Do you guys ever watch our podcast on video? I don't.

Oh, it's funny, dude. I don't watch it a whole lot, but it's funny because I started to recently. Yeah, you hear us tell stories and make fun of each other, but then when you can see our facial expressions, it's great. It's a good time. Reminds me of why I'm on podcast and not on TV, then. Yeah.

That's the other thing. Anyway, I got something interesting, very fascinating and good news, very, very good news. This is Alzheimer's news, okay. This is fascinating. This is what the article said. It was, I think it was Science Daily that published this. Here's what the article says, for the first time ever,

this is for the first time ever, an intervention has been able to slow an even halt degeneration for people with Alzheimer's over a long period. So for the first time ever, they were able to slow and even halt degeneration for people with Alzheimer's over a long period. So for the first time ever, they were able to show an intervention, something that you could do in your life that stopped Alzheimer's from progressing. And in some of these people actually saw it,

go back a little bit. You wanna guess what that thing was? Lifting weights. Lifting weights, for the first intervention they've ever seen that was able to- How did you not transition to this when we were talking about Alzheimer's earlier? Because it was just-

That was the perfect transition for this. I forgot. You should probably apply this weight lifting constant. It's like, these guys talking about Alzheimer's, we were just talking about it, like five minutes ago. That would have been a beautiful thing. So romantic. Hey, what do you call it?

Segway. No, when you call the disease, out with Al-Wat, Alzheimer's. Okay, even Michael Hey, what do you call it? Segway. No, when you call the disease, out what? Alzheimer's. Okay, even Michael Jordan had off game. I said, I didn't mean that. I think you call that old timers or Alzheimer's. What else, younger, I thought that's a lot of time.

Old timers. But research found that six months of strength training can protect brain areas, especially vulnerable to Alzheimer's disease up to one year later. So what they actually did is they gave, they had these people lift weights, they looked at their brain, then many of them stopped lifting weights.

Up to a year later, there were protective effects from resistance training. Wow, that long. Yes, dude, I'm telling you guys, man, resistance training is on the cusp of being the mainstream way that people are running around. Now that's interesting considering how fast. You just have this body of evidence now. Let's just stack it up.

Oh, that's amazing. That's interesting because how fast atrophy kicks in. Well, I mean, I don't know. I mean, I guess in terms of the brain, I would think so too, but they saw these protective effects last. Although I also know that even like, even when you, if you've trained long enough for sure, and if year years consistently

Even with no lifting weights poor diet for a while You still seem to have a little more muscle than what you had before you ever started. Well without muscle memory Right, you know, so when you so this is a common term you hear among like fitness people trainers bodybuilders called muscle memory where Let's say it takes me a year to gain 10 pounds of lean body mass and gain a certain amount of strength. And it's a year of hard work, diet, and focus. And then I stop. I totally stop working out.

My diet goes back to where I was before. And I lose all that. I lose all 10 pounds, lose all the strength gains. Maybe it takes three or four months of being inactive. Then I go back to the gym. I'll gain back what I lost way faster than it took me to gain it in the first place. So it might have taken me a year to gain 10 pounds,

but when I go back, it may only take me three months. And the longer you build that muscle, the longer you keep it while you're working out, the faster that happens. Cause I know now I could stop working out and lose everything. And I know I could get it back so quickly just because I've been doing it for so long. So something stays. I know.

Well, that's what interests me about like research around like hyperplasia and wondering if that has something to do with it. Because you know what fascinates me too is I remember being a, you know, 18 year old, 19 year old boy, lifting dumbbell chest press and like, it took me forever to get to like the 60s, where I can be so deconditioned, I could have not lifted for three months straight

and I can still comfortably do 70 pound dumbbells. No problem. Like all those neuro connections, like you've already established like those pathways, it's like now you can respond. Once you get that stimulus again, I feel like your body would established like those pathways. It's like now you can respond once you get that stimulus again. I feel like your body would be able to respond. That's what I'm saying. There's almost like there's something that stays.

That's the same. Even though the body adapts, and I think this is probably more true the longer you train. Like have you guys ever trained older people, let's say over the age of 50 or 60 who haven't worked out or been active for a long time, but they had a really long history in the past of being high level athlete

or something like that. And you can tell, you know, you train them and you say totally. I remember one time I was, when I used to have my studio, I was in between clients. I had just finished my own workout, so I had the doors open, I used to like to do that. And there was this old man, probably in his late 70s, early 80s. And he walks in and he had just these, I mean, he looked like an old man,

but to the trained eye, I can tell. I can look at somebody and I can tell they the workout or they did for a long time. So I looked at him, this little guy too, shorts, like 5-8 or whatever. And he had these meaty little fore forms and these like strong looking little hands. And he comes in and he has an accent. It's a Russian accent.

I was at the guy that used to wear all white all the time and he had like used to wear gold chains and stuff. No, no, no, who's that? He used to come in the San Teresa gym. Oh really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think Russian accent had a short. Maybe.

He had to pay I think. Oh, maybe. But anyway, he comes up to me and he's speaking broken. Oh, that's an a short. Maybe. He had a two pay, I think. Oh, maybe. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, he comes up to me and he's speaking broken English. Oh, it's an ab roller. Yeah. He's speaking broken English to me and he goes, oh, and he looks at kettlebells.

He liked the kettlebells. So he says, can I lift it? I said, sure, and he picks it up. And it's like a 50 pound kettlebell. And he knows how to hold it. And he presses it over, and he puts it down. And I saw, I was obviously super intrigued.

And I'm like, where did you learn that? What's going on? And he goes, oh, I used to be an Olympic lifter for the Soviet Union back in the, I don't remember what it was, the 70s or 60s. And I'm like, do you exercise now? He goes, no, I don't work out anymore. But I remember looking at him and thinking,

okay, it's something permanent stuck with this guy. Because of the way he was just built. And he was able to lift a 50 pound, he's like, you know, 77 years old. Yeah. Really, really cool. Anyway, what was that thing about the middle school dances that Doug shared?

I was gonna bring that up, but yeah, Doug shared an article the other day that kind of got me like, oh, I don't know. I got irritated by it. Basically, what happened was I think it was in Utah where this girl's going to a school dance and was like really looking forward to it, had a crush on this boy and the boy,

she was waiting to go dance with him, another boy kind of cut in front and asked the dance, and this boy actually made her really uncomfortable, and she was about to say, yeah, no, and basically deny him from the dance, the principal steps in and it's like, no, it's against policy. Like, so basically mandated that she dance

with this other boy. And then later on in the dance, I guess she was able to dance with the boy she wanted to, but then talk to her mom about it and was like really kind of distraught about the whole thing. And then it went on Facebook and it blew up and it turned into this big issue. Like, are we, you know, like, really kind of distraught about the whole thing. And then it went on Facebook and it blew up and it turned into this big issue. Like are we, you know, like what kind of message

are we sending, you know? What is so, okay, I didn't read this. So is it, is it like the school policy? Yes, it's so policy that if someone asks you to dance that you must say yes, they're trying to promote like, you know, being not, like being inclusive. Yeah, being inclusive, being nice, all the stuff for boys, but now look with, what do you like, you know, being not like being inclusive. Yeah, being inclusive, being nice, all the stuff for boys,

but now look with what do you think, you know, that really is, is gonna set up. Is the stupidest thing I've ever heard in my entire life. That's terrible. Crazy, right? Okay, look, if somebody forces you to do something, guess what, that wasn't you being nice. You're not teaching anybody niceness because they're forced

to do something, because if they don't, they get in trouble. I'd be like me going to Adam holding a gun to his head and saying donate your money to charity. Does that make him a good guy? Because no, but he makes him somebody scared. Oh shit, I better give him, give money. That's a terrible precedent. Not only that, but you're teaching the boys. I hear some of the best lessons I ever learned as a boy was getting rejected by girls. That's what forms you, you know, in your character later for you to then, you know, make it in the real world.

Like, you're gonna get rejected. That's just part of life. Like, and you gotta figure out why. Like, they're not gonna figure out why. And like, not only that, but, you know, the poor girl. Like, if she's in a situation with a boy where she's uncomfortable, you uncomfortable, this sort of ideas, I'm sure is gonna filter in, I don't wanna be mean.

And if she's uncomfortable, she needs to be able to say no. Oh my gosh. Was there a bunch of heat around on Facebook over there? Yeah, I think the parents blew up about it. But yeah, I think, again, this is like unintended consequences for like abandoning a policy you think is the right thing. This is not the right thing. Where are you able, does the article have the actual policy

Doug, can you see like what the school mandated? I don't wanna twist this all up. Yeah, because that sounds so crazy. It does. It sounds so illogical to me that someone would say, okay, here's the rule. If any boy asks you to dance, you have sounds so crazy. It does. It sounds so illogical to me that someone would say, okay, here's the rule. If any boy asks you to dance, you have to say yes. But I mean, that's pretty much what it's summed up to be.

It seems to be their policy. Yeah, really. Yeah, it says it requires kids to dance with anyone who asks. Yeah. Wow. You know what that sounds like? You know what that sounds like to me? That sounds like you took.

So adolescent boys, and you said, hey, you guys want to make like to me? That sounds like you took, so adolescent boys, and you said, hey, you guys want to make some rules for the dance? Yeah, this is all right. Everyone has to say yes. Now, not that this changes it, because I don't know, like what we don't know. Okay, so imagine being in the principles,

and you have this rule, maybe you don't enforce it very much, but you do it because you've either got special needs kids there, or you have kids that are to get left out and are not. And let's pretend for a second that this is the most popular girl in school. She's got a boyfriend who she can't wait to dance with. That's who she wants to dance with. And it's this nerdy kid that nobody talks to or is on the spectrum somehow.

And he comes up and he asks, and the little girl says, no, I don't want to dance with him. And then the principal intervenes and says, you should dance with him. I don't care. I agree. I'm not saying, but I mean, it doesn't look as bad to me.

It looks just as bad because first of all, her, that's, she's not a commodity that you can just trade around. I agree. And number two, now there's one thing to be mean. Okay, if she said no and then said you're fat, you're ugly, whatever, that's like, look,

you can't, like that's mean, don't say that to him. But to say no, that's within your right. And here's a deal, regardless of what your challenges are in life, life doesn't give a shit. So okay, fine, you grow up and you go to a school where everybody has to say yes to you. And you're like, this is awesome. At some point, you go in the real world

and how are you gonna fare in the real world that doesn't care? You can't force everybody to... Yeah. If anything, that's how you develop your character. You know, I had a buddy who, he wasn't, he's probably listening right now, he's in care. He wasn't the best looking dude in the world.

Okay, he wasn't very good looking at a shape, not very tall, but because of this growing up, he became the most charming, entertaining, like likable, individual you've ever made your life to the point where he says when he became an adult, you wanna go, if you were going to a bar and you were trying to attract women, you wanted him with you because everybody wanted to be around the sky.

And he never, he always had dates, but he learned that because he had to develop other skills. How the hell are you gonna learning that shit? If everybody is supposed to say hi, yes? Yeah. And again, what it falls back on to me is the way that you're raised and it's your parents' responsibility to instill that in the kid that,

oh, maybe I should look at this left out kid and be nice and inclusive to them, but that's completely on the kid for them to decide who are they gonna become as a human being. You can't force people to become something, they have to develop that themselves. It makes me think about, I got emotional the other day,

it's like so happy and emotional, I was at Safeway and the kid that was bagging my groceries was blind. He was actually blind kid and he was doing a good job bagging my groceries and part of me wanted to just go up to him and talk to him and be like, dude, but I don't want him to feel, I don't want to feel like condescending or anything, that's too, you know? But as I'm watching this kid, I'm like, look at this dude.

He's blind and he got a job. He's bagging groceries. Obviously way more challenged than somebody who's got full sight or whatever. And yet he's doing it anyway. His parents did a damn good job because that kid didn't let that stop him from. I mean, he's literally just doing a job.

When most people would say to him, you don't have to do anything, you can't do that because you need to be able to see. He was doing it and he was doing it good and I was like, fuck yeah man, that's a great kid right there. This quaz brought to you by Organifi. For those days you fall short on getting your organic veggies

or whole food nutrition, Organifi fills the gap with laboratory tested certified organic superfoods to help give your health a performance the added edge. Try Organify totally risk-free for 60 days by going to Organify.com. That's O-R-G-A-N-I-F-I.com and use a coupon code MindPump for 20% off at checkout. Alright, a first question is from Kevin Korearie 87, when supplementing with creatine should your intake differ on non-training days?

Oh yeah, love talking about creatine. It's easily the most effective and well studied. That's the other part that's important about creatine. Creatine has hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of studies that have been done on it, showing its efficacy and its safety, a lot of safety studies. So, creatine is extremely backed scientifically and a lot of studies are showing that creatine

doesn't just benefit strength and performance as antioxidant benefits. It's got cognitive boosting benefits, especially in vegans, but also in omnivores. It's got lots of health benefits. Crating is, by the way, it's not for everybody. Some people will take creatine and notice gastro upset. Very small percentage.

Small percentage. But most people supplementing with creatine, I don't care if you don't work out. I think if you're an adult, creatine probably will benefit you. In fact, there's these anti-aging pills and health pills now are coming with creatinine because they're finding it interesting.

Oh, really interesting. Oh, really interesting. But creatine is a great supplement. Should you take less on non-trainy days? The studies show that when you take it makes a little bit of a difference. Studies show that taking it right after you work out increases the uptake of Crate Team. Studies also show that when you take it alongside caffeine that you reduce some of its intake, also if you take it with carbohydrates.

I didn't know that about the caffeine. Yeah, and it's like some studies say that. Don't some of these supplement companies actually pair it with pre workouts? A lot of them. A lot of them. Yeah, there you go. There's your whole thing.

No, Crate Team, this is all splitting hairs because if you take it on a regular basis, You work out a lot of them. Yep, a lot of them. Yeah, there you go. There's your whole thing. Yeah. No, you create team. Interesting. This is all splitting hairs, because if you take it on a regular basis, I don't think it makes a difference, but splitting hairs, you want to take creatine post workout. Does that mean you should take it less or take it, not take it on your non-training days? That's what I do. I don't, there's no studies to support that though, but here's what I do.

I only take creatine on the days that I lift weights and on the days that I don do. I don't, there's no studies to support that though, but here's what I do. I only take creatine on the days that I lift weights and on the days that I don't take it, but I also eat a lot of red meat, you know. So I, yeah, I, I, I, you just, I mean, you're talking about three to five grams of it. Yeah, we're not talking about very much of it. I would take it every day. If you're taking it to, to take it and see the performance

from it, take it every day, take it consistently, I think it's easier to do that than to try and go like, oh, I'm only doing it on these days, versus these days. We've talked before about it, and I forget the amount of ounces of meat that you have to consume in order to equate to, I think, three to five grams of creatine.

I've read it before. It's a decent amount. It is a decent amount. Most people definitely don't eat it in a single day, so it doesn't hurt even somebody who does eat. A lot of red meat to still take at least three grams of cretin and taking five every single day with

or without red meat in the diet. I don't, you're not gonna oversaturate it, you're not gonna do, it's not gonna have any adverse effects from it as long as it's something that doesn't already bother. Now when cretin first came out, they recommended that people do what's called the loading phase, where for the first, I think it was like five or seven days,

you take 15 or 20 grams of Crate Team, and then after that, you just take five grams of Crate Team because the studies show that you would top out your stores of ATP faster if you took more in the beginning. Now, although that's true, the difference is tiny. You're talking about days faster, like a few days faster. And honestly, I think supplement companies did that to promote people using more creative force. I feel like, take a shit ton for a week. That's a good idea.

So you don't need to do that if you're taking it. Legion does a good job with their creative. First off, they use creative, creative monohydrate. That's the other question I get. What type of creative should I take? Because creatine is so popular, and there's so many studies supporting it, and for everything, not just muscle gain strength, but also indirectly for fat loss, indirectly for testosterone. And men, and of course for health, lots of alternatives to come out. Like it's been bastardized. There's lots of other alternatives. Yeah, Crateen, HCL, and you know, Crateen's site rate and you know, Cray alkaline and you know, what's funny is first off, 99% of the studies are done on Crateen monohydrate.

Number two, when they do do studies on the other forms of Crateen, they don't work as well. They actually did want on Cray alkaline, which was the, you know, take this, you don't get bloated and it's supposed to, which is bullshit. They compare it to... We're just marketing ever on that. They compare it to Crateemana Hydrate. Crateemana Hydrate was actually more effective and way cheaper.

It's actually inexpensive. Legion combines it with alcharnatine tartrate, which is a version of alcharnatine, an amino acid that's utilized in transport of energy to the cells. So what's the theory behind pairing it with that? Increased creatine uptake, and also because, you know, Mike, here's the thing I like about Mike Matthews, this is why we decided to work with Legion. He only does what he sees evidence for.

So he doesn't do anything that's speculative. If you see the evidence or whatever, then I'm gonna just... The efficacious thing. Yeah, it got to be like, okay, I got to have studies that support this. And taking Elkharnitine Tartre post workout has been shown in advanced athletes at least to speed up recovery. So because creatine is good to take post workout, he combined it with Elkharnitine ill-tartre put it together in a drink, take it, post workout. The way I use it is, if I'm using pure crate team on a hydrate powder without anything

else, I'll just put it in my post workout shake or just drink it on its own afterwards. If I'm using Legion, I actually use that during my workout because it tastes good. So it's like, I'm going to drink water anyway while I'm working out. Might as well sip on this the whole time. Now, the things you may notice from Crateen, when you take it, you'll gain some weight. So you will gain between one to depending on how much muscle you have.

It's good weight though. I try and explain this to everybody. It's holding water in the muscle. Yep, yep, yep. And there's a, you have the whole bloat thing is so irritating. It's a different look than it being, like you getting it in your gut,

you're loaded in fat. Your muscles are gonna look more full. You know, I'll use a term that people like toned. So if you gain a pound or two pounds of interest muscular fluid, you're just gonna feel tighter and more toned because I know a lot of women are like, I don't wanna gain any weight. No, no, this is the kind that you want.

That's why you're lifting weights in the first place. And then that, because muscles have more water in them, they actually build faster also. So, Crateen has this long-term muscle building effect from the extra fluid in your muscle. So, across the board, it's one of the only supplements that I'm like, this is one that try it out See if you have gastro distress if you don't like most people won't take it. It's a good supplement

Next question is from sassney fitness. How can you get quality sleep when working shifts? Oh my shifts they mean swing shift, right? Yeah, that means yeah, so I have My one of the hardest things to deal with it. Oh, dude, you ever train clients? Airball schedule. Yeah. So, of course needed that for quite some time when we first were married. Really? Cause she's an amazing graveyard. Yeah. Yeah. I have a, so my sister's boyfriend is a, is a police officer just became one two years ago in San Jose. And I

don't know if you guys know this, but when you first become a police officer, the first couple of years, it's like they give you the shifts. Like you're gonna work the midnight shifts and whatever. You gotta earn it. You gotta earn it. So he was doing this and he was a,

he was a, he was a special forces, super high performance type of dude. But after about six months of this, I mean, we had dinner at my mom's house on one of the rare occasions. He had the weekend off and he's like, dude, he goes about six months of this, I mean, we had dinner at my mom's house on one of the, one of the rare occasions he had the weekend off, and he's like, dude, he goes, it's killing me. He's like, so hard.

I feel terrible physically and mentally, like, what can I do? So what I recommended that he do was when, about an hour to two hours, preferably before he was supposed to go home, so he would get off at like, think it was like 11 a.m., which when he was supposed to do, he was he would get off at like, think it was like 11 a.m., which when he was supposed to do his go home and then get sleep, right, go to sleep.

But the sun is out, it's bright, like what do you do? So I said, okay, first off, black out your bedroom completely. You need to have zero light coming into your room. Number two, it's hard for your brain to go from bright light to sleep. So it's like you can't just come home, sunlight everywhere, or bright lights of the office

or whatever because at the end of a shift you would have to do paperwork and then just decide you're gonna go to bed. Two hours before prepare your brain that it's night time. So I told them where blue light blocking glass is the ones designed for night. Well this is where I feel like this has tremendous value.

Anyways, I utilize them all the time, but I wish I understood the vital in this situation. Right, I wish I understood this back when I was training clients a decade ago, how important the circadian rhythm was and the importance of sleep and the importance of them, preparing themselves for sleep, and has to be one of the hardest.

It's already challenging for normal people that are working with the sun to prepare themselves to go to bed. It's really tough if you're asking somebody at noon or one in the afternoon to try and close their eyes and go to sleep. Yeah, so I told them, and I told them some of those stuff because the sun on your skin will also tell your brain

that the sun is out or whatever. So I told them, when you get in your car, turn on your AC, get your body cold, because that'll help you sleep, and wear something that covers most of your skin. You want your skin out of the sun as well. Because you don't want to be in that short sleeve, where your blue light blocking glasses,

but your sun's all over your body. So I said put on some long sleeves. They don't live in the desert. Yeah, cover everything. Turn on your AC, get your body cold, put on blue light blocking glasses, and then of course later on, he's like, I don't like the blue light blocking glasses

because they're orange or the red, like what's the deal? And so then that's when we started working with Felix Gray. So I'm like, here you go. Because what he does is, you know, an hour or two before he goes home, he's doing paperwork for all the shit that he did during a shift and wearing colored glasses isn't the easiest thing. So he got the feel, because the Felix Gray ones

don't change the color of the room. Yeah, it's so tough, because you're buzzing, you know, immediately right after work. After time you wanna like, you wanna talk to somebody and like, I remember like Courtney coming home from work, trying to wind down was the most difficult thing. And then finally, playing really classical music. And like you said, like turn the AC on

and then like really trying to calm yourself down, helped your men. Well, this is where I would even couple like brain FM with this. Totally. I mean, you take do something like that, put the sleep brain FM mode on. I mean, that would be ideal. Throw those put like the sleep brain FM mode on, you know, what, I mean, that would be ideal.

Throw those blue blockers on, throw the sleep mode in there, get it cool inside your room to create that environment, and that'll probably put someone down. Totally. You know, the world health organization labels shift work as a high level carcinogen. Right. Because in heart disease, heart disease and cancer is higher because it throws off your circadian rhythm. Now, and I wonder though, I mean, and cancer is higher because it throws off your circadian results. Now, and I wonder though, I mean,

and that's probably because most people just go about it and don't think twice about it, right? I wonder though if some people actually made the effort to really do the things that you're talking about. How much of an effect? Right, like how much more, you know, would it affect them if they were doing these steps? Well, extreme cases, you need extreme AIDS.

You really need to like research like what you can do to prevent a lot. Yeah, and if you think about it, like think about it this way, I'm about to get into a heavy workout, right? I don't go from taking a nap or you know, relaxing in a dark room to go into the gym to now, lifting it super heavy. It's going to see, it's a, we, we're too crazy of a shift. Typically, what I do is I prepare myself mentally about an hour before, I'm ready. When I get to the gym, I'm ready to rock and roll. Same thing for sleep.

You have to have like, you have to prepare your mind and your body for sleep. You can't expect to go from work to bed and just, you can shut your eye, even if you're exhausted, here's the thing. They've done studies on this. You could be dead exhausted and go to sleep right away, but you're sleep quality shit

because your brain still buzzes. Still buzzin' from thinking it's daytime and all that stuff. So that's what I always tell people, shift workers, I say, two hours before you wanna go to bed, do everything you can to put yourself in a mental state to prepare yourself for sleep, that two hours later. Next question is from Landon Bergenthal. Do you believe it's possible to become a professional athlete with a balanced lifestyle?

Cool question. No. Not even close. Not even close. Not even if you pay millions for recovery or not balanced. Yeah, not a professional. Yeah, I mean, you look at the lifespan of professional athletes in their injury rate. And I think anytime you're super high performing in any direction, it's going to take away from your next dream.

Yeah, you're going to be an extreme. This is also where I think that we all admire them and look up because it's one of the most ultimate sacrifices. Whatever you've become brilliant or an expert or the best at or a professional at, you've had to sacrifice a ton in your life. And most people aren't willing to do that. And most people don't want to do that,

but we admire people that do and it's fun to watch. And I think that's part of what makes it fun to watch is that I could never do that. Did you guys, I don't know if you guys got this feeling from watching the Elon Musk interview with Rogan, like I did, but as I was watching it, a few times you could hear him, he sounded like he was tormented by his own tortured

by all his ideas. Like what's in Jordan Peterson? Yeah, like like the single mindled focus, probably not a great dad, probably not great anywhere else. And you could tell he was a bit tormented. You know, when we talk about balance to the average person that doesn't mean you can't have periods of extreme achievement. Yes. I think the key is that your baseline is balanced. That's where you always go to. That's like home base. Yeah. You know, but then there's periods of time where you stretch yourself.

You stretch yourself. Well, I mean, for me, the best example I have personally is competing. There was a period of four years of my life where I was completely out of balance. Now, how many days a week were you working out? I was seven days, I was in the gym. For four years, maybe I took a couple of days off

in four years time of every single day and not missing like weighing and measuring and tracking my food. I mean, literally every single day, super unbalanced. And yes, did I try and integrate family and still be a good boyfriend and still see my family do things like that? Yeah, I tried to do that stuff and to create as much balance as I could,

but at the end of the day, they all took a back seat to the number one priority, which was becoming this pro bodybuilder. So, I mean, and to me, that's a very small example, becoming a pro basketball player, a baseball player, or a sport like that. It's way more strenuous than I think getting on stage and presenting my physique shredded. Yeah. This reminds me of people who, they'll compete in something like that,

or they'll do like a high level marathon or whatever, but because they have no balanced baseline, it becomes this extreme swing. You know what I mean? It's like I'm either shredded for my competition, or I'm super high performance for my competition, then when I'm done, I don't have a balanced baseline. So I end up going in the opposite of your governor off

completely. I go way in the opposite direction. You know where I also see this, and it's not just in professional sports, I see this in super famous social media people. When you see somebody who is great at Instagram and great at YouTube or Facebook and their millions of followers,

that's actually talking to you in person. Right, they've gotten so good at hacking the algorithm and putting out content that makes people want to pay attention to what they're doing. And in real life, they're fucking up all over the place. They're a mess with their relationship. They're a mess with their friends and family. I see that one.

They're a mess with their social skills because all of their energy and effort has been put into this world. That's just with anything. You're gonna become great at something. It's a give and take. You're gonna lose in some places. But I do love the point you make, Sal,

that I think there's nothing wrong. I went into competing knowing that. Right, I went in knowing that this is not something I wanna do for the rest of my life. This is a goal I have in mind. I know it's a ridiculous season of your life right here. Yeah, it's a ridiculous goal. I remember having the conversation very vividly

with Katrina saying that this is the plan. This is what I'm going to do. Bear with me, it's not gonna be the rest of our life. I remember her checking back in with me about two and a half, three years in, going like, are you sure this is not gonna be the rest of our life. I remember her checking back in with me about two and a half, three years in going, like, are you sure this is not going to be the rest of our life? I mean, I promise it's not going to be

the rest of our life. And sure as shit, you know, once we got to a point where no one gave a shit that if I was a bodybuilder, competitor guy, anyways, anymore, my pump was much bigger than whoever I was before than I didn't have to anymore. And that was one of the greatest days was to be able to walk away from doing that shit.

Yeah. Next question is from Colin Self. As a trainer, what should you consider before leaving a big box gym to become an independent trainer? Oh, good. What a, what a, I love this question. I know, I love this question. Managing gyms is like, I would get trainers who,

it was always trainers. Nobody else really did this in the gym, but they would get to a certain point with clients, so they get a certain level of comfort, and then they'd be like, they'd start doing the math. That could make so much more money. Let's see, the gym, it charges $80 a session. I'm getting paid $30 a session, and then they do the math.

I do 30 sessions a week. Oh my gosh, I could be making this much money. Doesn't work that way. Here's what I always tell them. If you're not crushing it in your gym, if you're not like the best person in there, bringing in the most sales with the most clients, the odds that you'll success on your own,

are like, yeah, less than 5%. Very slow. You're not gonna succeed. If you can't make it in a big box gym, that's the proving grounds. I mean, you have everything, every resource accessible there at the big box gym. I mean, you have all the forms,

you have all the potential clients, like literally walking through the front door. I mean, like how much more do you need to have a successful business if you're really motivated enough to produce? And so again, like to Salis Point, you do really have to prove yourself. You have to be one of the top ones in there that everybody knows it. You're very comfortable knowing.

And even when I was in that environment, I remember consulting with Adam quite a bit. What should I look out for? Who's really killing it out there in the independent training world? Like, all these things, like, where am I actually gonna market myself? Like, what are the venues for that?

Like, what kind of things? Like, there's so many things to really consider, you know, even a presence online. These days is humongous. Like, a social media presence needs to be established. Like, people need to be able to find you so um I mean it's it seems daunting it's not impossible like it especially if you are you know very good at well if you're very organized if if you can really like you know manage yourself like that's

something that I always you know probably manage myself better than anybody else uh so it was a good fit for me but it's definitely on that level where you know, really consider where you are and your status right now in your gym. Well, you were one of the top trainers at one of the biggest big box companies in the world. You were one of the top trainers at 24-A fitness. You left and you did well.

I would say successful independent trainers make up the top one percent of successful trainers. That's it. I mean, after that, if you're not blowing it out at your big box gym, you're going to crash and burn out in the open world. Well, this is kind of business 101. When you work for a big box gym, they are providing the leads and opportunities for you, which is the single most challenging part about scaling any business. No matter what we are talking about, if you are trying to scale and build a business,

you need leads and opportunities. And a company like 24-FINIS pays millions of dollars monthly to drive leads through the door, which you get the opportunity as a trainer in a big box gym to see if you can close and present and sell them on the idea that you're a good trainer. And that, if you can't prove to be the best at that, when somebody is taking care of the most difficult part about building and scaling a business, then you are really setting yourself up for failure to go out and try and figure that piece out without the assistance of millions of dollars being advertised and funded to give you those leads and opportunities.

I remember when I was really upset that the company put a ceiling on my overrides. This is about like the eighth year that I was in the company and when I really became checked out that I was no longer going to work for them. For me, I had got used to a six figure lifestyle and they basically put a ceiling on how much money I could make and that really pissed me off. Back then, you were not allowed to moonlight, right, as a trainer. You couldn't go train somewhere else or run a boot camp while also working there.

And I chose to do it. And when I did it, though, because I was thinking, OK, this could be my transition to moving out from 24-hour fitness, I made a point to build my boot camp business without using a single client that came from the gym. You had to prove to yourself. And it wasn't about making money for me. It was about proving to myself, can I generate enough traffic to come to this boot camp class

that I'm not relying on this lead generating machine that I'm currently working in. And if I can't do that, I better just fucking shut up and take the nonsense that I don't like that this company is laying out here for a new comp plan because I'm not good enough to go out there and do that. So it was very important to me that I could do that. I used to give the same advice to any trainers that are looking to transition from a big box to private is just because you build up your clientele at a big box, doesn't mean you're necessarily ready to go private. Like, I would make a point to start to try and build a private business that is not sucking

from the current one that you've been handed to from this big box that's providing all the leads and see how difficult that is. And learn to overcome that, i.e. what Justin was saying through marketing yourself through online, social media, find ways to build your business, not relying on those on any clients that you've received from that big box. Take the training wheels off.

Yeah, absolutely. And if you can prove to yourself that you can do that, then you'll probably be a trainer that will have success when you go independent. The biggest challenge I used to have with the trainers that worked for me in the big boxes was how to get clients off the floor, how to get new clients off the floor.

Now, we're talking about a 35,000 square foot gym with hundreds of workouts every single day. The vast majority of these people didn't have a trainer. They're already in the gym and they're already working. They're warm as leads. Oh my god. It doesn't get any more of that. They're already interested in what you have to. They're already interested in what you have to sell. They're working out. They're already working out. They're in your house. You just go, okay, go talk to someone and get a client. They'd be like, oh, I can't do that. I don't know, to ask them, what am I gonna do?

They're gonna say no. Now imagine trying to do that at the grocery store. Or at Starbucks. That's what happens when you're independent, by the way. I do all that. When you're independent, you don't got a big old gym with lots of people working out that you can go talk to. You go outside in the real world.

These are people. Golf courses, I'm going to clinics, anything. Dude, it's hard. So if you're not crushing it, like, and this is what I tell you what, I got to the point working in big box gems, managing these gems before I went off and opened my own studio.

I knew this was my thing. I would go into a gym and I would bet trainers, and I'd tell them, I need you to go talk to people on the floor, oh, I can't do it. I'd say, I bet you in the next 30 minutes, I can get someone to purchase 10 sessions off the floor. I would do this to trainers all the time, just to show them that it was possible,

and I was so confident that I could go do it. It was easy in a gym. When I went on my own, those skills came very much in handy, but it was way more difficult. I would have to go inside grocery stores, set up outside the whole foods, go to the whole foods, go to the coffee shop, talk to business owners. That's what you're doing. That's what you're

doing. You're going out and you're talking to people. That makes you feel uncomfortable. That's your fun. You're totally, totally screwed. Now, if you're in a big box and you're murdering it, you're crushing and the part that you're crushing the most at is at getting new clients. That's what you're really, really good at. Your odds are higher, but they're still not super great. I'm just being very honest, being an independent trainer is very difficult. Now, if there's no easy way into it.

Now, if you do it and you do it well, of course, it's extremely rewarding. If you love fitness and you love helping people, you can make your own, at some point, you make your own schedule once you start to build a reputation, which take years, by the way, as an independent trainer, it takes years

for referrals to start coming in and for you to have this reputation. But if you do that, then it is very rewarding. But it's definitely nowhere near easy. I would say it's one of the more difficult things to do. And with that, go to mindpumpfree.com and download all of our fitness guides. By the way, we have a personal or training guide

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