Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1243: Why SARMs Are Not Worth the Risk, How to Improve Your Vertical Jump, the Impact Resistance Training & Diet Has on Conception & More

Episode Date: March 6, 2020

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about whether SARMs are a useful tool or a gimmick, exercises for improving vertical jump, how resistance training and nu...trition play a factor for women who want to conceive and what fatherhood has taught them. Justin experiments with Organifi. (3:50) The silly things that have been seen in the gym. (6:27) Mind Pump on Netflix’s Top 10, releasing their analytics & MORE. (9:45) Mind Pump on the Pete Davidson special on Netflix, backstory with past relationships & MORE. (15:10) Mind Pump random thoughts. (22:10) Mind Pump on the hysteria surrounding the Coronavirus. (25:10) Are viruses alive or not? (29:35) The Fed pumping more money into the market. (31:38) Justin cold calling for charity, his closing rate & MORE. (33:14) #Quah question #1 - Are SARMs are a useful tool or a gimmick? (38:51) #Quah question #2 – What exercises would you recommend for improving your vertical jump? (47:17) #Quah question #3 - Do resistance training and nutrition play a factor for women who want to conceive? Would a woman have to switch up their diet and training regimen to better her chances of conceiving? (56:28) #Quah question #4 – What has fatherhood taught you? I just had my first son and what advice would you give to a first-time parent? (1:04:43) Related Links/Products Mentioned March Promotion: MAPS Powerlift ½ off! **Code “POWER50” at checkout** Visit Organifi for the exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code “mindpump” at checkout** Mind Pump Podcast - YouTube What Netflix’s Top 10 List Is Teaching Us About Its Hits And Misses Hit Makers: The Science of Popularity in an Age of Distraction – Book by Derek Thompson Pete Davidson: Alive From New York | Netflix Official Site Mind Pump 1230: Surviving & Thriving in a Toxic World With Max Lugavere The EdgeU Mind Pump 1240: The Muscle Building & Fat Burning Effects of Oly Lifting With Sonny Webster Mind Pump 967: Dr. Gabrielle Lyon Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Max Lugavere (@maxlugavere) • Instagram Paul J. Fabritz (@pjfperformance) • Instagram Cory Schlesinger (@schlesstrength) • Instagram Max Schmarzo (ATC/CSCS/MS) (@strong_by_science) Instagram Sonny Webster (@sonnywebstergb) Instagram Drew Canole (@drewcanole) • Instagram

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Starting point is 00:00:00 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. Mind, hop, mind, hop with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this episode of Mind Pump, by the way, Mind Pump is the top fitness and health podcast in the world. Number one, here's what we talked about in this episode. Now of course, we answer fitness and health questions. That's a little later in the episode. The first 40 minutes, we cover studies, current events.
Starting point is 00:00:30 We talk about what's happening in our lives. We mentioned one of our sponsors. Let me give you a breakdown. So we start out by talking about Justin's experiment with Organifies Green Juice and Pure. So Organifies Green Juice is a blend of green superfood powder. You mix it with water. It's got some health benefits. They've got some ashwagandha in there. And then their pure is a neutropic based gut health supplement. So, you take that and it helps your brain with its
Starting point is 00:00:59 function. It gives you a little bit of mental vitality. So, we gave it to them and then we waited about 20 to 30 minutes to see if it would happen. And he came out of mental vitality. So we gave it to him and then we waited about 20 to 30 minutes to see if what would happen and he came out with some interesting facts. So I think it worked. One of them was wrong, but yeah. Then we talked about Netflix and their new analytics and how they're promoting their shows.
Starting point is 00:01:14 It's actually real effective. We talked about Pete Davidson, the comedian, and Ariadne Grande, a little bit of controversy there. I talked about the coronavirus and the hysteria surrounding it. Then we talked a little bit about whether or not viruses are actually alive, believe it or not, there's actually a debate in the scientific world about that.
Starting point is 00:01:34 We talked about the Fed pumping more money into the market, reversing the downward trend. Boy, the real drop is probably gonna happen. It's gonna be real big at some point. Justin talked about the cold calls he's making for a charity and for sexual favors. Yeah, right to the bank, baby. By the way, Organify, if you want to discount
Starting point is 00:01:53 on their products, we have a Mind Pump discount for you. Just go to Organify.com, that's ORGA and IFI.com. Forward slash Mind Pump, use the code Mind Pump. You get 20% off all of their products. All right, here's the fitness questions that we answered. The first one this person says are sarms a useful tool or a gimmick. So, sarms are new drugs that are out in the market available over the counter as research chemicals promising to build muscle, not lower testosterone and not have any side effects.
Starting point is 00:02:26 Sounds too good to be true. Well, you know the answer to that. So listen to that part of the episode. So next question, what exercises are best for improving vertical jump? So we talk about how you can get more hops in that part of the episode. And I'm not talking about beer. The next question, this person says, hey, does resistance training and nutrition play a factor for women who want to conceive?
Starting point is 00:02:50 So we talk all about training and nutrition around conception and the final question, what has fatherhood taught Adam, Justin, and myself? So we talk all about being dads in that part of the episode. Also, all month month long our newest program Maps power lift is 50 that's right half off So maps power lift is a full power lifting workout program So if you want to get started with power lifting if you want to compete in your first competition
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Starting point is 00:03:49 You started about it. Drinking your pure earlier. Yeah. Oh, hey, yeah. I'm a little off right now. So yeah, the sound just gave me a concoction and it's what you call it. Nuo tropics or new tropics. Well, it doesn't matter. Yeah. You're You're doing the same experiment with you that I did. So a few podcasts ago, I took the Organifi Pure and Green and I timed it 30 to 40 minutes, depending on empty stomach, digestive process, whatever. Took me a little longer. And it kicks in.
Starting point is 00:04:19 It is like 45 feet. You feel the buzz, Adam did it, and it happened him. Remember, he was like, all of a sudden, he was smart for a second. That's a little late for the little part. Brief moment. Yeah, all of the buzz, Adam did it and they happened him. Remember he was like, all of a sudden he's smart for a second? That's a little late for the little part of it. Brief moment. Yeah, all of a sudden we're like, well, that was pretty. Came out of the woodwork. I don't know what's happening.
Starting point is 00:04:31 Yeah. So we got 30 minutes for you just. I will put it, we'll put a ticker on it. Yeah, let's see what happens. Okay. Anyway, but yeah, make sure you put your headphones on the right, Jack. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:43 I mean, you know, that's how I'm starting the day. So we'll see how this goes from here. You know what I hate, dude, that it's happened to me a few times when we're podcasting, because I'm very hard for me to sit still. That's why I have this hand gripper, it's helping. But I'll shift my, and I feel bad for the people recording the podcast on video.
Starting point is 00:04:58 By the way, all of our podcasts are on video now, as well. So if you wanna see just how unattractive we are, just go to the MindPock podcast. You're welcome. YouTube channel. But anyway, I feel bad because we have people recording the podcast on audio with video and about one or two times through the podcast,
Starting point is 00:05:18 they always have to adjust my camera. You guys notice that? Yeah, because of Fiji. I'm sliding down and I'm moving to the side of it. So what I hate what I do is because I move so much, with my foot, I actually kicked the wire and my headphones will unplug. And so I can't hear them,
Starting point is 00:05:33 but I know that the podcast is going, so I gotta keep going. Have you done that? Yeah, you also have so hard. You also stare at the TV a lot for a guy who has a photographic memory. I can never figure that out. Oh, up there?
Starting point is 00:05:42 Yeah, you're always looking up there. Well, see this is there. Everyone thinks there's a fly on the wall. I know, I see it too though. You know why I never see it. I also do that when I'm just thinking. So it just happens to be in the right. That's what I know that about you.
Starting point is 00:05:52 I'm like, it's not like he needs to look at the television for cues of anything like that. I'm like, you tend to do that. No. If there was one on this side, I'd totally would be drawn to it like a fly looking at light. You need one because you never fucking cover your own bullet points.
Starting point is 00:06:05 Just like, hey, Doug, remind me to talk about Hugo Boss, this, this, and the fucking intro's over. And I'm like, hey, did you want to cover any of those points? Did you have Doug fucking taking notes for? I'm just trying to be present. You know what I'm talking about? I'm just trying to be all calculating. Okay, there it is.
Starting point is 00:06:20 Like off the cuff, bro. He is like a present. Oh, yeah. Dude, wrap me. You know what TV is? Did you guys back in the day when you guys used to do cardio? Did you guys like watching stuff on TV when you did cardio? Was that a thing? Did you guys? That when you can't watch in people. I don't know if that makes you creepy, but like in the gym Yeah, like watching what people are doing and like some Me too music and podcasts like when I'm on like
Starting point is 00:06:47 List cardio for now. When I was competing and I was doing it every day for a while, I didn't watch TV. I don't think I had a man, in fact, with all the TVs there, I don't know what it is. I don't know if it's like throws me off because I had to look at a screen that's up above me. So you would just watch people working out?
Starting point is 00:07:02 Yeah, like a creep. Totally. And now what kind of people would you focus on? Just like. The interesting ones. Yeah. The ones that usually are using, yeah, well that is interesting
Starting point is 00:07:15 and captures my attention sometimes. But usually it was ones that were using the machines in a different way than it was intended. There's always that going on. It's not like a unique thing. This happens on a daily. Dude, to this day I've never seen anything quite as silly as this and I've seen it twice.
Starting point is 00:07:35 I've seen people use the lat pull down machine. They'll pull the handles down or hang from the handles and then twist. Just twist. Just like trunk twist. Oh my God, I thought I was the only one that saw that. Why, what is that doing? I have I was the only one that saw that. Why? What is that doing?
Starting point is 00:07:46 I have no idea. There's no resistance twisting. No. Twisting. It feels good though. Huh? It feels good though. You do that.
Starting point is 00:07:54 No, I don't do that, but I mean, it does feel good though. I mean, it does feel good though. Because I've tried it before. I've seen people push with their shoulders the leg press, like drive into it like that. Even when it doesn't have the pads. That's bodybuilding. I think what happens is, because I've done this before, before I start my set,
Starting point is 00:08:07 is the first time I get under a lap, pull down my arms or hanging up there, it feels good to just let it traction. Yeah, and then rotate a little bit, and then I'll come all the way back. But I mean, that's not part of the exercise. It's me just kind of stretching out before I get started.
Starting point is 00:08:20 So was it a Saturday? I went to go work out, and there was a dude dude the cable crossovers So he pulls the handles down, but it's heavy enough to where he's he can almost take him off the ground Yeah, so he's really light on his feet. Yeah, and this is what he did He hung with his arms and then he would jump and just switch his legs everyone so out So it's like he was an astronaut he got think think think like wait. Yeah, and it's Astronaut bounds. Yeah, and it's, uh, astronaut balance. Yeah, and I really, I really want to say something,
Starting point is 00:08:46 but then, then he's not going to do it anymore. So it's like, no, you know, let it happen, dude. Yeah, watch the fun. Yeah, I've seen a guy in a free motion like that, where he'll get like, you know, all this, like, spring loaded tension, then, point, jump up, and then, cry to kick in the air, and then come back down.
Starting point is 00:09:00 That guy was one of my favorites. That's a good one. I got one of our listeners while I was doing a row, and I'm not gonna call her out, because I know her name, but you almost messed me up. I was doing rows and she walked by and you guys know this. When you're doing a heavy row, a cable row, or whatever, you don't want to turn your neck.
Starting point is 00:09:22 That's like you're asking for a little bit of a neck tweak, right? Yeah. So as I'm doing this, she taps on my shoulder as she's walking by to say hi. So I kind of turn her in the middle of rap. Why I'm in the middle of rap? Did you go? Poster or what?
Starting point is 00:09:34 I just kept looking straight ahead and then I put it down, I looked over, see who it was, I'm like, oh, okay. I know who you are. Don't do that. Yeah, don't do that to me. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:09:43 You can make my neck. Hey, did you guys see what Netflix is doing now with their top 10? I think that you see this Justin. I haven't seen it yet. So now they have in like the, I think it's upper left or lower left corner of the, you know, the little graphic of whatever the show is.
Starting point is 00:09:58 Uh huh. And it says it ranks the top 10. In the nation. Yeah, of all of like views from on Netflix. Oh wow. So say number one in the nation, yeah, of all of like views on Netflix. So say number one in the nation, number five in the whatever. That's, you know why that's good? Because sometimes the picture and the clip makes me not wanna watch it.
Starting point is 00:10:16 Oh, totally. But then if I know it's five. That was like, okay, so that was like great reviews. That was like knives out for me. So knives out got like 95% like, you know, positive reviews. And I'd heard good things about it. Still didn't close here. Still didn't close me. I watched the preview of it. And I think the same thing you got. I heard you say, so I was like, it just like clue. It looks like the moon. I thought in fact it was already made a movie clue before.
Starting point is 00:10:40 And so I was just, it was just not interested to watch it ever. I watched something else that seemed more enticingicing and I just kept blowing it off, blowing it off. And then finally the other night, Katrina and I had a movie night and we kind of there wasn't anything else that we hadn't seen or really wanted to see. And she's like, you know, let's, let's just watch that knives out of. We've been talking about possibly watching it for like the last month and a half, two months. I'm like, all right. And we watch it. It was called the shots a lot, Larry. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:06 I feel like, Oh my God. It keeps happening. Oh, I love it. Oh God. Is that what it's happened to me, dude? Yeah, I'm just, if I just, it's lonely happening,
Starting point is 00:11:17 is that just submitted? Is it just, sounds calling it out though. I mean, I didn't even have a daughter, I had a son. That was my worry of having it. Like, everyone asked me, like, why are you so adamant
Starting point is 00:11:25 about having a son? Why? I said, well, I want the shaffer name to be carried on, first of all. And second is, I'm just afraid if I have a girl, I'm gonna be just a pussy. Like, it's just gonna soften me up. It happens, dude.
Starting point is 00:11:36 You and your son are gonna be, she's gonna call a shot to both of you guys. That's all right. Anyway, it was gonna move you or what? Yeah, it was really good. It was really, really good. I've heard that from a lot of people, dude. Yeah, well, all right. Anyway, it was gonna move you away. Yeah, it was really good. It was really, really good. I've heard that from a lot of people, dude, so much.
Starting point is 00:11:48 Yeah, well, you know, well, something that we were talking about off air that, you know, movies and not even streaming has been around a while. Like, it's so many, we have so many great analytics. I mean, Netflix is built off of analytics, right? What makes it so successful is they know how to market to you and get you to binge watch.
Starting point is 00:12:09 That's part of the major success they have. And hit makers, the book goes into this, which is a really good read. But it's a little annoying, sometimes as a consumer, or somebody who likes, I don't know, the artistic side, or the novelty of good writing or a good movie, is they've learned and they've hacked and hitmakers gets into this,
Starting point is 00:12:31 like the formula to what makes a successful movie and then everybody kind of recreates it. I was being advertised to, oh, this is a movie you would like to watch. I watched a preview and I'm like, oh my God, it's like hangover with just four different... I've seen it a million times. Yeah, four different dudes and it's annoying when you see that they just take advantage
Starting point is 00:12:48 of knowing that it will do, it'll produce enough to make money because enough people want to watch it because it's got a proven formula. I really appreciate a movie where I watch it and either one, I was like, I had no idea that was coming or wow, I don't think I've seen something like this before.
Starting point is 00:13:04 Yeah, that's why most studios, I mean, they're only putting money into superhero films because that translates internationally people can totally get behind that more. But back to the analytics thing, I actually heard that some of the people that are producing the content for Netflix, they don't release all those numbers for them,
Starting point is 00:13:24 the producer that's actually producing it for them. They're withholding it in-house. Oh, why? Interesting. Yeah, I mean, obviously that's their own motivation to be able to then resign contracts. I was just going to say, because if you're a producer and you know you crushed, and then another contract comes up, you're going to negotiate.
Starting point is 00:13:43 There's a lot of stand-up comedy like, you know where they put out a special and they want to know like how far it reached and all the stuff and they're really not like Disclosing those numbers to them so then you know some of them are more motivated to then go to like a different Platform to try it out there interesting. Well, so that happened to me too, Adam, with Lock and Key. Lock and Key is another, it's a series on Netflix that I've I've seen it. I've gone over it a million times. I've seen the preview. It looks scary when you watch the preview. Yeah, it looks like it's a scary kind of series and so Jessica doesn't like scary shit or whatever But then it was ranked on their new ranking system. I think it was like number five or four in the world So I said, you know what? Let's try this out and she was like apprehensive. I don't want to watch it looks stupid looks scary
Starting point is 00:14:30 Whatever I'm like, let's just try it which makes me happy when I get to prove her wrong. Oh, I'm sorry be right again Actually funny funny thing the day after yeah, the morning after she's like all reluctant She's like, I guess you were right or whatever and I'm like be grudgingly. Yeah, and it after she's like all reluctant she's like I guess you were right or whatever and like be grudgingly Yeah, and it's their about it. But anyway, we put it on and Great show I binge like four episodes of it. Yeah, it's like a it's a thriller. It's not scary There's a little bit of it's like scary for like 14-year-old 15-year-old kids maybe so it's not super scary, but it's like one of those scary for Adam But not the right thing is that's what make Katrina not want to watch it.
Starting point is 00:15:06 I'm trying to find right now this Standup that I watch Justin. Do you watch all the standups that are on Netflix? I mean, I try to Courtney gets like irritated because that's like all I want to watch So I usually watch about myself, but it depends which one where are you talking about? So there's a new there's a new one a white guy tattoos. Oh, Pete Davidson. They were and he dated he dated the I think a singer who talks shit about his dick. Oh, you tell about the dude with a tattoo on his neck back here. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:15:32 I couldn't get out. I couldn't go past 15 minutes. He's on SNL. Yes, yes, yes. Did you watch it? I didn't watch it. I only watched a clip of like the. Did you watch a chokie?
Starting point is 00:15:42 Did you watch this? Do you know what I'm talking about? Oh, I thought maybe is it Pete? Pete something. I want Did you watch this? Do you know what I'm talking about? Oh, I thought maybe you might. Pete Samper, is it Pete? Pete Samper? I want you to figure it out because I don't know what I said. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, you know, she really was just like doing, she was recovering from a, you know, the last break up and just kind of whatever.
Starting point is 00:16:12 Rebound? Yeah, rebound, thank you for a confluck and lost for words there. I should have drink that got you here. Should have had it, yeah. So, I'm the biggie there. That's the word I want. Putting in the wrong hole.
Starting point is 00:16:21 Yeah. Not exactly. Oh, Ariana Grande. Thank you. Thank you. God, I'm just not there right now. Wow. Oh, Ariana Grande. Thank you. Thank you. God, I'm just not there right now. Wow. So, she's annoying as fuck.
Starting point is 00:16:29 Bro, she like... So annoying. She talked, mad shit about this dude. And his like whole standup is like at least a good chunk of it is kind of a response to it. So it hooked me in there. Now, I didn't know this until I'm watching it. And she actually write a song called Pete Davidson. Is that what that says? She blasted him in a song. She blasted him all over like so she was scorned. Yeah, you guys have to read up on this because it was kind
Starting point is 00:16:55 of fast. What was she saying about him? She made it, I can just told you like he like she was like, he he made a big deal about them having a relationship. She played it off like it was a fling and he was no big deal, but said he had a big dick. And like so. That's like a great. Oh wow. Well, no, it was a great project. The probably the best part of the whole standup he does.
Starting point is 00:17:16 He goes, you know, you think that this would be a great compliment and everything like that. But let me tell you, this is how fucking evil this woman is. She straight ninja this that she wanted to make sure that women for the rest of my life are disappointed. Oh, really? Really? And I fucking, I died on it.
Starting point is 00:17:38 Oh, what? Yeah, yeah. Tell us what you got. Tell the world you're a fucking you got a massive dick that every great, even if you're like above average a little bit If you're not oh man, yeah, everything is disappointed. Wow, so I thought so I you know I don't know who the guy is we just it was on like I think it actually just popped Now did you like the whole thing cuz I watched 15 minutes and it wasn't it was a capture me
Starting point is 00:18:00 Okay, so he has a different style right? You that's what was at first turning me off from how he was doing. I thought, is this kind of like lost for words, really? Or is this just kind of that to his style? It's his style, if how he does it. And so it took me a minute to warm up to his style of comedy. And it was pretty decent. It wasn't like, over the top grade or anything like that.
Starting point is 00:18:18 But I was more interested in the backstory, because I don't know who this guy is. I don't know anything about it. And I'm listening to his jokes. And I'm like, with Katrina and I look over and I'm like, did that, do you think that really happened? Did he really date her? Is this part of it skid or is this real?
Starting point is 00:18:31 So she's like on her phone like researching all of it. She's like, oh shit, no, he said this and she said that. And I'm like, so that part of it made it even better. So I went, I paused it, went back, read the backstory on their relationship and all the drama and stuff and then turn it back on I mean So you got to kind of know his backstory a bit to get into it
Starting point is 00:18:51 Yeah, I mean you I was watching without it and enjoying it to a little bit You know wasn't great again like I said, but then when I found out the backstory and thought oh this is clever This is clever and really fun interesting. Yeah, she's annoying, dude. She's the most annoying person in the world. Her voice, phenomenal. She's got powerful. Well, I'm also annoying. She just says constantly says stupid shit. She's like a child that says dumb shit.
Starting point is 00:19:15 I remember she said something about it. She's a Taylor Swift. No, no. She's annoying, too, but not nearly as annoying as Ariana Grande. She's just one of the most. And the reason why I know this because I would, my daughter, you have to go to all the concerts.
Starting point is 00:19:29 That's sucks. Yeah, no, I'm total. No, she was on a show on Disney Channel. Can't remember the name of it. Do you know the name? Dr. Mouse, could tears. Victorious, was that it? She played Cat.
Starting point is 00:19:41 Cat, there you go. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So she was a character on this Disney show that my daughter used to like. Then Cat, there you go. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So she was a character on this Disney show that my daughter used to like. Then she became a popular singer. She's, I think she's half Sicilian. So I was like, oh, it's just cool, you know, whatever. And so I kind of paid attention a little bit here.
Starting point is 00:19:54 So racist, that's the only reason why he listens. Oh, she's part of Telly, no. He watches. Well, you know, my daughter's into her, you know. And I'm like, is my daughter gonna identify with this person. So I paid attention. Oh, I got you. And she just says,
Starting point is 00:20:03 Paisana. She just says dumb shit all the time. They all do. Yeah, and they're children. They're young kids, you know, with a lot of power, a lot of fame, you're going to, I mean, I would have said stupid shit at that age too. Yeah. You imagine?
Starting point is 00:20:15 Can you imagine? I heard that. You got captured on camera. So in your ego and you're just a little shit. I heard that ever since Kanye did that thing to Taylor Swift, she's just been on this like tear of like everybody's out to get me and stirring up all kinds of shit too. You know, in hindsight,
Starting point is 00:20:28 that was the best possible thing could happen. It blew her up. She got so much support from that. It's not even funny. Oh, she was pretty big before that. Yeah, she was. Yeah, yeah, no, she was pretty mad. She's genuinely super talented.
Starting point is 00:20:39 She's the one who, she has, I think she still has like, the most famous, the most amount of retweets ever in the history of retweeting, I think she still has like, the most famous, the most amount of retweets ever in the history of retweeting, I think. Really? Yeah, I think, because she's like, notorious for never tweeting, and I think she did a tweet like a, her twats are just the best.
Starting point is 00:20:53 Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Is that past tense for me? I'm kidding. That's the past tense. I mean, I say twat too, for tweeting,
Starting point is 00:21:02 but that was like the wrong place to put it for sure. So that's good. My bad. Some win. And dad jokes sometimes. Sometimes that's so much a dad joke. When Doug closes his eyes and shakes his head, I know I went too far. I went too far. I crossed my legs on that one.
Starting point is 00:21:19 With dark Doug thinks he went too far. You know, people don't know, dude, that Doug. When he pops out of joke, it's the dark dude. Doug is the went too far. You know people don't know dude that dog when he when he grew when he pops out of joke It's the dog dog is the worst With that he always I tell Katrina that all time I said we'll be funny because she'll be like you know She ever once about she catches some of his duck's humor right she's not around all time. She's like Doug's really funny I'm like, oh no, he's definitely funny. I said but sometimes let me tell you we'll be in the car and and Sal will say something super inappropriate that Justin will have a quadriple staff.
Starting point is 00:21:45 And then also there's like a little there'll always be like a little bit of a pot. Yes. There's always like a he's he's he's he's questioning. Yeah. Yeah. There's a delay. And then also Doug says something. And it's like whoa, bro. Whoa. That was way too far. In a burn. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Good God. Yeah. Anyway, I'm gonna change gears. Good times. I was on Instagram doing a post this morning and something dawned on it.
Starting point is 00:22:13 You know what pose you see all the time on Instagram, especially with girls. You see this lot with girls. They're gonna do the two-gotten. Is it flexing and pointing at each other? Is it the kind of up on a ledge and kind of getting their ass out? No, just, you know, that's another one. I mean, that was way too specific. No, no, it's this one.
Starting point is 00:22:30 It's the, you know, okay. No, I'm looking at. What it was was one of my cousins started following me, so I went on his page and then that led me to check out some of my other cousins. And I see my cousins on these pictures and they're, you know, they're all just family, whatever, but they're like at a nightclub
Starting point is 00:22:44 with their friends, so it's two girls and they're sticking their tongues out and I'm like oh yeah why do they stick their tongue out all the time it's either out or it's out to the side or something like an anime thing no so I looked it up I actually found a you could Google that no well no so what I googled is we can I want to know what you googled I googled why do girls stick their tongue out stick their tongues out in pictures and then I put psychology because I want to know what you Google that. I googled why do girls stick their tongue out? Stick their tongues out in pictures, and then it puts psychology. Because I want to look up articles written that were like like psychology articles,
Starting point is 00:23:14 because oftentimes they'll comment on behaviors that we do and then they'll speculate. And so I'm like, who better to ask than psychology? This is a hard thing, Sprite. That's true. So they said that although the tongue can signify I asked them to call it as a horror. Yeah. Thanks, bro. That's true. So they said that although the tongue can signify a lot of different things throughout history, like poking fun
Starting point is 00:23:32 or whatever, they said a lot of it has to do with just, it's either subliminal or it's overt sexuality. So girls who are doing that, they're trying to show sexuality or they're being sexual by sticking their tongues out. That's what the article said. You needed an article to tell you? No, I just want to confirm. Yeah, it's like, you really needed an article to tell you. I already thought that.
Starting point is 00:23:50 So I just wanted to just back it up a little bit. Yeah, this kind of science. One day we need to have like a, you know, follow Sal with his Google searches for a day. Nope. You know, that's why I can never want to put a comment on this. I'd love to have four tongues.
Starting point is 00:24:03 What? Yeah. Hold on a second. What time is it. Love's have four tongues. What? Yeah. Hold on a second. What time is it? Did the chick kick in right now? Also, camels have three eyelids. What? You guys know that?
Starting point is 00:24:12 Bro, it's working. I was watching the H-Try documentary. 22 minutes in. Whoa, it works faster on you. You must be fasted. I'm just telling you. No carbs. That low carb time.
Starting point is 00:24:22 Protein, heavy right now, and it's all clicking. You still have the reindeer poops? Yeah. The drops or whatever? I don't want to talk about this. Dude, so it's an awkward part. So are you just buzzing or something right now? Oh, yeah, I'm stimulator right now.
Starting point is 00:24:35 Yeah, that's good. Hit him faster. 22 minutes for you. It was like 30 for sell. 45 for you. Yeah, 45 for you. So we all know, except for one more. It could mean that I'm just at a high high level
Starting point is 00:24:45 It takes a lot longer for it to build up and push over the moon you guys it impacts so much. No, no I think there's more so much. They're like here and it's like oh just a little I don't have a lot of gears Do a little bit of organifi peer puts you guys over there's two gears. Wow. This is totally different There's just more shit to get through for you The peers like whoa we got to fix a lot of stuff guys so many holes Seriously, oh anyway, dude so my for you. Like, the pier's like, whoa, we gotta fix a lot of stuff. Yeah, so many holes. Yeah, seriously. Ho, anyway, dude, so my, so this whole coronavirus thing, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:12 It's, there's a lot of news around it. Yeah, lots of stuff going on and. I'm always trying to get somebody on the show. Yeah, I'm gonna try a phone call. I'm gonna try and get someone on to talk to about it because as I'm doing my research, anytime this, I'm like this happens, I'm always trying to dig through the, like what's the truth?
Starting point is 00:25:28 Because here's the problem with media. Media is, we have a market for media. Just like we have a market for food or we have a market for clothes. And if I publish an article that says, the coronavirus is not as bad as you thought or if I publish good news, it's not gonna get as many clicks or as much attention as an article that says something
Starting point is 00:25:47 like coronavirus exploding and all over the world, but I seem to get more attention. So I'm like, I wonder if this, if a lot of this is just sensationalized fear because that's what we keep clicking on. So I did some research and a lot of people are saying these doctors and scientists are like, look, we want to definitely make sure we prevent the spread of it, but it's not, it's the flu is worse. The flu is worse for people in fact, way more people kills way more people.
Starting point is 00:26:12 Yes. There's a lot of unwanted or unwarranted fears, I should say. Now my family, you guys think I'm a hypokondrake and I get a little paranoid, right? Definitely. I'm not the first person in my family to have these traits. Okay, this was inherited and learned.
Starting point is 00:26:29 So my mom is, of course, she's sending us messages with articles and she's like, are you guys buying masks? Do you guys have, so make sure you go to the store and get more toys from China. Get toilet paper and stop shaking people's hands and like mom, like if you do the the math like I'm exposed to way more Dangerous stuff every single day. It's not that big of a deal. Whatever. So we're going about anyway my dad went to Costco To get his hands on
Starting point is 00:26:54 Sold out dude on masks. Yeah, and sold out my buddy went to water water toilet paper and masks. Yeah gone Yeah, do you know where my dad had a great business? My dad had to drive to Hollister. Remember when San Jose, right? He had to drive to Hollister to find the masks. Dude, because they're sold out. This is the same thing with the generators. You know how they've been turning the lights off and the power outages and all this, like dude,
Starting point is 00:27:18 it was impossible for me to get a generator for like. Remember the guy that went to jail? Or got a huge fine, I think with a jail actually for it that was Buying them up when that one for more. Yeah, so so they got they got them for like a resale license That's what I fucked them up. Opportunist man. Well, they call that price gouging But in reality in the market their plate that plays a valuable role because the price reflects the the demand and the supply And if the price goes through the roof because people are able to resale something for 10 times more, that sends a signal to the market
Starting point is 00:27:50 and producers just produce more of it. You know what I'm saying? So if you can make toilet paper and sell it for five times the profit, every producer is gonna try and produce more toilet paper and you'll get better supplies and result of doing that. But it just always reminds me how effective fear is. Oh, oh my God, fear is so effective to affect the masses.
Starting point is 00:28:10 I mean, they know this and so they're just looking for a new thing. That's why I'm always very slow to be able to buy into, to like, oh my God, this is gonna be a crazy thing that we have to worry about. Dude, so I have a lot of family and cousins that are in investments. Yeah. So my cousins who are smart investors made a bunch of money off of Charmin.
Starting point is 00:28:29 So, dude, they're buying stock and like chlorox and lice all and shit like that and they're, they're bitching, they're red. Wasn't Maxine too, that if you did like the anti-biotic hand lotion sanitizer or whatever, it actually leaves you more susceptible to getting the, yeah, the, because it opens the pores. It opens the pores. To the Xeno estrogen.
Starting point is 00:28:50 To Xeno estrogen. Not the bacteria. No, so I got it. So like the, and I started paying attention, you know the receipts you get from the store, you're a feel how they are kind of slick and whatever. That coating is our chemical Xeno
Starting point is 00:29:01 estrogens that can affect, potentially affect the body. And so if you use the hand sanitizer and then you handle those, you're gonna get like 10 times more exposure to some of those chemicals. That's okay, so you can get the zeno estrogen, but you can't get a virus, that'll help.
Starting point is 00:29:15 No, it kills the bacteria. Yeah, so a destroys bacteria and it breaks down the protein sheath that's around the DNA in viruses so that they don't work. So, then I went down another rabbit hole. I remember in science class, back in, I don't remember where I was probably freshman, we had this debate as to whether or not viruses were alive
Starting point is 00:29:36 or not. You guys ever looked this up? So, so virus. No, I've not. I don't know why I'm asking you. Well, do you guys ever Googled for good? Why virus? Yeah, I like know we were doing cool shit. Yeah, yeah
Starting point is 00:29:49 It's in terms of like back so they collect dead viruses and inject you know no no if a virus is alive or not So bacteria is a single-celled Organism it's actually alive right there's a debate as to whether or not viruses are alive or not, because really when you look at a virus, it's a heated debate. If you look at a... Yeah, nice. When you look at a virus, it's a protein sheath around a DNA, but it requires a host to replicate. So viruses need to consume, they need to produce waste, but they also need to be able to reproduce.
Starting point is 00:30:22 Viruses can't reproduce on their own. They have to be attached. Have a host. Yeah. So there's like a, like some, so you can go back and forth. But they're feeding off of something. Wouldn't that, uh, allude to them being alive? That's why that's why it's inert. That's why it's in between.
Starting point is 00:30:36 They'll say viruses are some people say they're alive, some scientists, some scientists say they're not. It's kind of this in between. Hmm. Because they can't, on the wrong, they don't replicate, they don't do anything. So they could just be there and then reactivated once they find a host. That's it. So once you get them in your body,
Starting point is 00:30:52 they attach to your cells and then they insert their DNA and it tells yourself to do something different. It's like a program. Yeah, really? It's like a computer program floating around and you pick it up and then your body gets reprogrammed and unless your body's immune system does something to it You're your fuck. You know, I mean, but anyway, there's the hysteria is a little overblown. Yeah on it But you should still be it's not the black plague. No, you need to calm down
Starting point is 00:31:16 Well, I like to get I'd like to get a somebody who's a professional in the field like talking to us a little bit about it because it is Yeah, no, you're right. Yeah, I am just a troll. Political now like crazy. So that's what I find interesting. Have you guys seen that? Because it's an electricity season. Oh, yeah. Both sides are trying to use it to scare people and devoting for them or whatever.
Starting point is 00:31:34 Yeah, yeah. It's so stupid. It's so big. It makes me so. Paul, it's so big. Speaking of the market, this is as of the recording of the episode. So I don't, this may change when we drop this episode.
Starting point is 00:31:43 But market crashed because of coronavirus fears. The Fed lowered interest rates, injected more money in the market now. It's up again, which I don't know if that was the best thing to do. How much lower do they go? Someone said they lowered them, but they just lower them back down to the all-time low that they hit already, right? So they hit an all-time low, and then they started to rise back up again, and then they just brought it right back down. I think it's just inflate everything again. Correct. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:08 Why do that? Well, it's buying time in a sense. That's kind of what they're doing is slow bleed. Yeah. Well, it's inevitable that eventually what will happen is like, and I think we're market correction. Yeah. We're close to that, man.
Starting point is 00:32:19 When you look at the housing right now, it's just, bro, it's been a bull market for 10 years. It's like one of the longest bull markets ever. So, and cutting interest rate, here's the thing, there's a lot of motivation to keep the stock market looking good because we're an election season. So when you're the president, you have strong influence over the Fed's policy, even though the Fed
Starting point is 00:32:42 is supposed to be independent, there's a lot of influence. So if you're the president, you don't want stock market to go down that long, right, before you get elected, because that could be used against you. So of course, they're going to do something like that. I don't think they would have done that otherwise, because when the market correction comes, the more you skew the market, the stronger the connections, excuse me, the market correction comes, the more you skew the stronger the connections, excuse me, the correction can be, and that could be pretty bad or whatever.
Starting point is 00:33:12 I think it was funny this weekend, I thought of you guys because I was actually in a position where, okay, there's strengths that you and your partner have that are different. And we were actually trying to do some good things for the community, for the schools, all this kind of stuff. So Courtney actually like signed up to collect, collect these different certificates, offers,
Starting point is 00:33:34 and things like that from local businesses for this auction, for charity for the school. Oh, I see. Yeah, and so like she signs up that they sent her an email basically like, oh, yeah, and also like here's a list of like 50 businesses that we need you to cold call and get like them to Basically, you know provide something for this this auction and we need you to do that by you know in a week or whatever and so she's like freaking out and like has I'm like Whatever I'll do it, you know, I'll do it and like it it was just hilarious because I just remember being at 24 of fitness and like going to just like, call Colin back, want to get rejected, go back, you know, hammer the same people over and over again.
Starting point is 00:34:10 So the whole weekend, all weekend, I'm like, on the phone, I'm almost like had a Bluetooth in my, my ear and I'm just like, calling these people, my motivation behind it, those, the funny part, right? So each, each one that I close, she's like, okay, you can bank a sexual favor. She doesn't say, I was like, wow, you really want to get this done, no? She doesn't know what she just did. I know, I know, some phone, like, oh, we can't just hammer in these businesses, you know. Hey, one of them actually, did you tell them, they listen.
Starting point is 00:34:41 Yeah, yeah, you please do this. A lot is writing on this. Yeah, you please do this. A lot is writing on this. Yeah, listen. Like, it definitely, so it was funny because I'm representing the elementary school. You know, so I have to keep that in mind. I can't just be myself because I was like, it was funny because like some of the businesses,
Starting point is 00:34:57 like the nail shops and like, like, the immediate, like, answer is like, no, no. Like, like, really aggressively, like, no, I don't wanna. I'm like, oh, so you don't wanna support the community, I got it, you know what I'm like, catch myself, I was like, oh, I can't even be like, shitty and sarcastic, you know, because I'm like the elementary school, you know.
Starting point is 00:35:14 So I was like, I had to catch myself, but. So what it's, is it like one of those little coupon books that you end up the kids go sell? Is that what it is? Where you get all the shops and they get all, you have 20% off by this get one. Yeah, similar. You could do that, but we're trying to get like unique things. So I got like, I was like closing the shitty. I'm totally out of it. I was like 20%. You know, the closing
Starting point is 00:35:36 rate, which is, yeah, it's not my best. Yeah, I think it's a sign of the times. I'll put some of the excuses out there. But like some of the hotels I got like free night stays and I got like really good stuff. Like like two person like romantic dinners for this like really expensive dinners at some of these places. And so I got like really cool prize, not just like, you know, $20 gift to get for nail, you know, done. So I think closing so explain this is is this like a now they're going to get auctioned off you know, done. So, I think closing this. So explain this, is this like a, and now they're gonna get auctioned off or something? Okay, so that's how this works. Well, that's perfect.
Starting point is 00:36:11 Now, how are you leading this? Are you leading the conversation with, hey, do you wanna donate for charity for school? I'm, I'm assumption closing them that basically they've already donated before and that, you know, they're already in this area. They're loud? Yeah, 100%.
Starting point is 00:36:24 And then, you're just saying that, hey, do you want me to come down and person? I'll go ahead and, you know, you're running this game. I'm a sir-lired? Yeah, 100%. And then you just, hey, do you want me to come down and person? I'll go ahead and, you know, like, and then, a lot of times I just make up the prize for them. So it was just like, oh my God, we just, like, maybe like, the last time's like a free night's day, you know, like for, you know, one of your King's sweets, like, could we do something similar to that this time? And I got them to do it.
Starting point is 00:36:44 So, yeah. Would you like to repeat what you guys did the last five years? Would you just go up for the last? I don't have any fear. They're like, who are you getting at? I would lead with the whole like, hey, would you guys like to promote your services to all the parents in our school?
Starting point is 00:36:58 We're doing free promotions. I tried that angle. Didn't work. Yeah, that was the ones where I got the hard no. Yeah. Oh, wow. I would have thought that would have worked. Sal was getting arrested too. that was the ones where I got the hard no. Yeah. Oh wow. I would have thought that would have worked. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:07 Sal is getting rusted too. I don't know, I should try it. Give it to me. Give me some numbers. I'll give you the last sheet. You get the sexual baby. We got two sheets done. I got one more to go.
Starting point is 00:37:15 Let's see what you're doing. So you're closing at 20%. How many of those have you closed then? What's the number? Well, so if I'm like 10 total, so yeah, I know. Bro, that's a lot of sexy stuff. It's a lot of things I'm gonna figure out. Have you already started?
Starting point is 00:37:28 Yeah, thinking about how you're gonna figure it out. Yeah, I gotta counter that out. I have to make it all different too. And so I'm gonna, yeah, I'll put it on the camera. So now there's, are you, are they all individual sexual favors or can you combine them for one piece? I know, one piece. That's a great question, Sal, like one night of just pure debauchery.
Starting point is 00:37:42 You know, just like anything goes sort of a rena. Yeah, you better negotiate that before you get any further into this, because that's gonna be not fair. I know, right? Oh yeah, one night, we just had two hour sex and she gets out all the moves. Like, I want wrestling, I want like, you know, like, I'm not gonna do.
Starting point is 00:37:57 Yeah, I'm gonna keep it in my head. He's doing moves. That's why you gotta watch us on video. You can see Justin the moves that he's doing. Hey, this is what I do. This is what I do. You know, this is what I picked. This is what I picture on Justin's calendar. You know, day one, Wheelbarrow. You two. Yeah, Jack Cameron, like the Dave T uses first. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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Starting point is 00:38:43 It's the motherfucking world. An English landed. Quijo. All right, the first question is from Dylan P.95. Are Psalms a useful tool or a gimmick? That's you. Did you pick this out? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:58 You, uh, I know I sent you a deal. It was Dylan. Well, I sent him over a, uh, it, first of all, define to tell me the difference between a peptide. What's the difference? So peptides are compounds that can cause other actions in the body or can be turned into other things in the body.
Starting point is 00:39:18 This is supposedly. A psalm is a drug, so psalm stands for selective androgen receptor modulators. What that means is that these compounds are designed to attach to the androgen receptors in the body and to cause some actions. Now, what are the androgen receptors in your body responsible for? Well, they're responsible for the masculinization of your body, so facial hair, deepening of your voice, oily skin, you know, that kind of stuff, but they're also responsible for
Starting point is 00:39:52 muscle building to some respect. So testosterone attaches to the Androgen Receptor. All steroids attach to the Androgen Receptor. So the Androgen Receptor. So, so arms were invented to attach to the Androgen Receptor, but to cause those receptors to exert the muscle building effects without exerting the masculineizing effects. Because that's like the magic formula, right? And pharmaceuticals is, can we make a drug that gives you all the wonderful benefits
Starting point is 00:40:21 of testosterone minus the masculineizing effects. That way women can use them, that way we can give them to people who need to strengthen their bones and their muscles because those masculineizing effects as much as bodybuilders and, you know, roid heads like them because, you know, you start to feel aggressive and all that stuff. When you're giving this to the average person, they don't necessarily want to feel that, especially women or if you have to give them to kids or whatever.
Starting point is 00:40:47 So that's the goal behind these drugs. They're totally new. These drugs have one or two, you know, they're not, none of them are FDA approved. The one that's been most tested, I'm not quite sure what phase of trial it's in, but it still hasn't been approved. Many of them have been dropped by the FDA because of negative effects. And
Starting point is 00:41:11 here's what the anecdotes are saying. So I've been really deep in SARMS for a long time. I have no interest in using them because these are research chemicals. They're not FDA-approved. A lot of people haven't used them yet for us to really know what they're doing. Now, does the peptide, I know this is a SARM's question, but I'm personally curious because I get a lot of questions around the peptides. And they, even though you just define them, they still sound very similar to me.
Starting point is 00:41:37 They are both... Research chemicals. Yeah, research chemical, they both are supposed to have an effect that hopefully produces more testosterone or growth hormone or whatever. So, even though one sounds like it's specific to Anderson receptors, I feel like they're both kind of similar, no? Yeah, so like the peptides, for example, some peptides you'll use, supposedly what they'll
Starting point is 00:42:00 do is they'll have your body release way more growth hormone or insulin like growth factor IGF1, which are both anabolic hormones and all that stuff. But again, the problem is, first off, how are they legal? You think yourself, but these things are not FDA approved, how the hell are people getting their hands on them? There's a gray area in regulation when it comes to these compounds. You can legally sell them as research chemicals. What you can't do is sell them for human consumption. So the way they're getting around it is you go online
Starting point is 00:42:32 and you're buying a research chemical and it'll say clearly not for human consumption, although that's what people are doing. But people are literally experimenting on themselves with these products. That's what you're doing. Yeah, how do they go around that? I mean, they're pretending that they're running some kind of like labs somewhere, or is this
Starting point is 00:42:52 just like, never? Well, I mean, it's interesting to me that, because we've been anti-sarms since the beginning, but where else are you going to get something like this where we can go test? Like, so let's just say somebody buys the latest and greatest charm. And we've now got these forums where all these people are talking and sharing what they're feeling, what they're noticing. I mean, maybe one of the best ways to test this with that big of masses coming together. And I think the ones that get popular
Starting point is 00:43:26 are the ones that have the most amount of people that have used them and said positive things in comparison to negative things. They don't know how they get to where everyone starts talking about them. So the most popular ones are popular because they're the ones that people say give you the most gains.
Starting point is 00:43:41 People literally don't give a shit about side effects. They don't think about steroids. I can't see color anymore, but it's cool. Yeah, think about any drug. You know what I mean? Okay, first off, think of the population that's attracted to SARMS. It's not general population is a give a shit. Most people don't know what it is.
Starting point is 00:43:56 The only people who are interested in it are either biohackers or like people who want to find a steroid, but don't want to go to the black market. Oh, I can buy this online type of deal. They're not in a mental state to give a shit about side effects. In fact, if they gain muscle, they are really happy and they don't really don't care. Yeah, my case was always that,
Starting point is 00:44:15 if I'm gonna take that, I may as well just take testosterone. That's how I felt. testosterone's way more effective. Yeah, and we know what it does. Right, so that, what I don't understand is doing that instead of like they're not They definitely aren't proven to be safer. So why would people go that?
Starting point is 00:44:30 They're the legal side of it. I'm sure yeah, come on I know no one's no one's people still think like that It is crazy people think that first of all you can order steroids online probably just as easily as you can order Sarms secondly, I don't know I've never met a single person that's had their door busted down for having their personal use of steroids taken. It doesn't have, unless you're trying to just see it with a business side, no one's fucking with you for a 10cc vial of fucking. You see with the like the CrossFit sports, all those people kind of like bringing them down for using these sars because they must have thought they're not testing for them. Yes. Because they're so new. They think if they use a sarm thought they're not testing for them, because they're so new.
Starting point is 00:45:05 They think if they use a song, they're not testing for it, so I can use this. Now, anecdotally, when you read the message boards and you talk to people and I talk to people who I believe to be reputable, the effects from a song are, they're not like steroids. It's not even close. And, songs also promise, or one of the targets, I think, psalms also promise,
Starting point is 00:45:25 or one of the targets, I think, target actions of a psalm is also to not affect your natural hormone levels. So the problem with taking testosterone is if you take testosterone, your body stops making testosterone. So they're trying to create these drugs that have less side effects,
Starting point is 00:45:40 give you the muscle building effects, but also they don't shut down testosterone. The problem is psalms do shut down testosterone. The problem is, SARMS do shut down testosterone, at least that the doses that people are using, because the studies, the doses that they're using, the studies are far lower than these kamikaze doses
Starting point is 00:45:54 that people online are using. We just don't know what they do. Here's the other thing, people are buying them because they're afraid of the black market and they're afraid that, oh my God, I don't know what's in this black market, you know, violet testosterone. I hate to break this to you. You don't know what's in that bottle of soroms either. None of these are regulated. They're not a big enough market for people to,
Starting point is 00:46:14 nobody knows how to test them properly. And the very few independent lab tests that I have seen have come out all over the place where, you know, doses are off, dosages are off, excuse me, where there's chemicals that they can't identify that are in them. I've read scary stories of people getting their eyesight permanently affected. There was one storm that caused people to have like an orange tint or damagine.
Starting point is 00:46:39 Yeah, that's crazy. No, I don't think, I mean, look, you want to experiment on your body, it's your body, but keep in mind, you are, this is a very high risk kind of game that you're playing. We don't know what they do, none of them have been improved, and the place you're getting them from
Starting point is 00:46:58 who knows what they're putting in your bottle. And on top of that, a lot of people are even inject, like peptides tend to be injected, so arms at least are oral, but wow, you really need to be careful when you inject a random something into your body. I mean, it just takes the wrong thing to cause, you know, a bad reaction. Next question is from Nicknack 97. What exercises would you recommend for improving your vertical jump?
Starting point is 00:47:23 You know, I just did a post on my story other day. And you just, you think because I think I've talked about them so many times that everybody's heard and is over there following them. But if you're asking any questions related to sports performance, especially vertical jump area, you have to be following PJ performance Max Marzo, and Cory Slesquich. They just started that whole online and educational website, and they're the best. They really are the, in my opinion, they are some of the best sports performance brains in the industry, and incredible, also very, very incredible men, too.
Starting point is 00:48:02 I like them as people. I think they have a great business and they have incredible free content. So if you're not following them, you should be doing that. And the reason why, you know, because it's not like one of us can't answer how to improve vertical jump. Sure, I have an answer and exercises
Starting point is 00:48:17 that can help improve vertical jump. But man, these guys are on a whole other level that this is where I go to research and read more information. And one of the things that I think was paradigm shattering for me, following PJ over the last, I mean, I've been following him for good four or five years now, is how important, forget the exercises,
Starting point is 00:48:38 how important the technique of jumping is, and what a difference that can make. I've seen this guy give somebody six to eight inches on their vertical within minutes by just showing them the approach to it and the mechanics of it to get them to add. I mean, I'm never being a kid in the gym and training so hard and wearing those stupid shoes
Starting point is 00:48:59 and doing all these things to try and increase my vertical by one inch or two inches, where this guy could really look at your mechanics of your jumping technique and improve four or five times that. So the value of following these guys and listening to what they have to say about vertical jump and just sports performance in general, definitely where I get a lot of mind. Yeah, and obviously you have to have strong legs and so like some of those things of general overall strength, you know, will apply to every athlete, but then also having the mobility
Starting point is 00:49:32 and the stretch reflex that, you know, will provide that kind of response. And there's lots of subcategories of this. So it's not like, you know, this exercise is going to get you like a two-inch vertical, you know, like there's a lot more to it, like Adam Sainland in terms of the technique. My mind's been blown with what kind of content they're putting out. So we always shuttle them that way. Well, I'm gonna give an analogy. Okay. If you have, you could have two groups of people trying to improve their punching power.
Starting point is 00:49:59 And one group does shoulder and tricep and chest exercises and just gets stronger. And the other group, practices punching. Practices punching technique and gets coached by a boxer. At the end of 10 weeks, 100%, I will guarantee you that those that practiced punching are going to punch much harder. And if you don't believe me, have a bodybuilder punch you in the arm and then have a boxer punch you in the arm. The bodybuilder is way more muscled and stronger, but the boxer is going to hit you much harder because
Starting point is 00:50:27 punching is a skill and a technique just like jumping is. Nothing is going to improve your vertical jump like practicing jumping. So the number one thing you should do to get a better jump is practice your technique and the skill of jumping. And then the second thing is to practice how you explode out of a jump. That's what the exercise I would focus on is how do I generate force in the shortest period of time? This is where plyometrics can become extremely valuable, is practicing being able to exert all that force
Starting point is 00:50:58 in a short period of time to give me the most jump. And plyometrics have to be applied properly. The way you utilize plyometrics is by exploding into a jump, resting for a while because once fatigue sets in, you lose the value of plyos. Once you're fully rested, practice again. That's the single best thing you can do. Now, aside from that, general strength in the lower body,
Starting point is 00:51:24 in the calves, and in the core will contribute to all of that. But nothing is going to get you better than practicing, just practicing jumping. Well, I'm going to circle back to what Justin said because this impacted me personally more than anything else, and that was just getting stronger in like my squat. I mean, I play basketball as a kid, growing up, I stopped playing, I didn't, I stopped playing for a team and like really serious as I got into my 20s.
Starting point is 00:51:50 I always did like wreck ball and things like that, but I was not playing as consistently as I was, was as a young kid. Started to get into, you know, bodybuilding, not like competitive bodybuilding, but building my physique and caring about how I looked. I started and I've shared on this podcast before, one of the things that put the most size on my body was starting to eliminate basketball.
Starting point is 00:52:10 So I stopped playing basketball, burning all those calories, started to pack on some size. I got the biggest I'd ever been by not playing ball for a few years and developed my legs from squatting. And then I'll never forget coming back and playing basketball after like a two-year hiatus, and being able to throw the ball down better than I'd ever had in my life. Up into that point, like it was like,
Starting point is 00:52:32 man, at the peak of my basketball training, I could barely get up and get a dunk, and then I got to a place where I could drop step, two-hand, throw it down, and I hadn't been playing any basketball. So there is something to be said about, you know, I wasn't practicing jumping. I wasn't even doing any real plyo-metic worry on that. I just built some legs on me that I didn't have as a kid at all, and my fuck invert.
Starting point is 00:52:57 I don't know what the exact amount of inches, but I had to put on at least five to six inches more the way I was being able to throw the ball down. So make sure that you're squatting. I mean, squatting will definitely carry over into your vertical jump for sure, probably more. Yeah, and it's a little controversial because the skill of cleaning is definitely very high.
Starting point is 00:53:20 And we talked about this with Sonny on the podcast recently, but the triple extension concept of, you know, really being more explosive, really like pouring more force output into the ground is really a huge part of that development of being able to increase your vertical jump. And, you know, it doesn't mean you need to learn the skill of, with a barbell of learning a, a clean, but emulating that process, whether it's with a kettlebell or with a trap bar, or something like that, where we could then mock, you know, that type of explosive triple extension is a huge component, but you know, working on the strength
Starting point is 00:53:56 and then, you know, building your way up to the peak of that, which is the powerful expression of it. Yeah, the full squats to build general strength and then partial squats to build specific strength for the jump. That is where it applies here. No junk, no joke. So if you're a junk in the trunk,
Starting point is 00:54:14 yeah, I don't know why I said that. If you're pretty experienced with your lifting and you wanna improve your vertical and you wanna add more strength, you can actually add partial squats. This is where partial or half squats actually have some value. I don't ever recommend that except for this. Well, that's, I mean, remember when that video of LeBron James went viral of the way he
Starting point is 00:54:36 was squatting and people, there's all those debate back and forth. He's an advanced athlete. That's very specific. Well, and not only that, and he's huge. You'll never see a basketball player take off for a dunk from the deep astergrass squat position or even anywhere close to that. You won't even see them take off from a 90 position to do that. They probably have a three quarter bend in their squat when they go up for a jump.
Starting point is 00:55:03 So why, if you were an NBA player getting paid millions of dollars and you care more about that than longevity and what will build the most muscle on my quads, you're looking for the most carryover into your vertical jump. It does make sense here to train these quarter types quads that people make fun of people on Instagram for doing, because it has value here. Strong core for coiling, you got strong legs for that explosive output, you got strong feet, and you got stable ankles.
Starting point is 00:55:34 All those things very much concentrated. There's an African tribe that the men jump, and this is how they show their virility and fertility and attract women. Do you guys know that? No. Yeah, all the men will jump together and the height and the explosiveness of the jump is how they'll attract women. And so the women in the tribal.
Starting point is 00:55:55 They're also looking at their juniors. I was just going to say I wonder if it really has a new vertical or what's flopping around. That's a really good way for them to jump. They wear those little banana leaf underwear. No, they need to tell a lot what's going on. Not every, every after trial. Every reproductive kind of dance. No, they don't wear the same shit.
Starting point is 00:56:12 You got to sell funny stuff. Oh, look, that's an eight inch vertical. No, don't bring it up. That's definitely a 10-inch. No, they actually wear it for footer. No, dude, they actually wear almost like long skirts. So you ain't going to see nothing, bro. They're just looking at their...
Starting point is 00:56:22 Well, Natchel brother flies up. I need to explain that to you. Next question is from Yoice Sotelo. Do resistance training and nutrition play a factor for women who want to conceive? Totally. And the rest of the question is, how about a woman have to switch up her diet and training regimen to better her chances of conceiving? Yes, it makes a big difference. I'm sure I did all this stuff. One of the, okay, so first off, being healthy, generally healthy, overall healthy, body fat
Starting point is 00:56:55 percentage isn't too low, because being too low can actually negatively affect your ability to conceive, and also being too too high. You want to have a healthy range of body fat. For women, this is typically for conception around between 20 to 25%. Not even leaner than 20%. I've known women who have been in the 17% body fat range had to get their body fat up to 20 before they can conceive. In that range, general overall good health,
Starting point is 00:57:26 that's the biggest impact you're gonna have on your ability to conceive. Now that being said, specifically, if we were to break down, okay, general health, everything looks good. What's the form of exercise that's gonna contribute the most to a woman's ability to conceive? Resistance training, always.
Starting point is 00:57:43 And the reason why is resistance training is anabolic, it's pro tissue, it's pro hormone balance. It encourages a faster metabolism, which allows you to eat more. When your metabolism is becoming really, really, really thrifty, you can run the risk of sending a signal to your body that says, hey, we're not getting much food, so probably having a baby is not a good idea. But when you're lifting weights,
Starting point is 00:58:07 like we talk about all the time, you're able to eat more, and because you're able to eat more and still maintain a healthy body fat percentage, sends a wonderful signal to the body. Now, any form of exercise that's overdone is gonna damage or negatively affect your ability to conceive. So what I mean by that is is even if you lift weights,
Starting point is 00:58:26 but you just lift weights a lot and you're training like a maniac and you're pushing your body to the limit and you're always on the borderline of overtraining, probably not a good environment for conception. You want to be generally in a good kind of relaxed state. It's fun. I don't know if you guys have had friends, this happened to friends, but I've got several family members where they were trying, you know, to conceive and then they're because they were trying They were stressed out about it. It's not working. It's not working. Then they gave up and they just relaxed boom. Oh, yeah happens right away
Starting point is 00:58:54 Now what a whole stress. What are your thoughts? So let's say somebody just heard that statement you made about where percentage there You should be or ideal right nothing's gonna make the the greatest impact in having your body in a healthy state. And let's say somebody is listening to that and they want to get pregnant and they're like at 32%, which is not crazy, but they're at 32% body fat. And so they hear that. And so they assume that if that's the best thing to do,
Starting point is 00:59:19 they start dieting to get down to 2025 while they're also trying to consume. And while they're dieting like that, they may be running low calorie, low fat intake, what's your thoughts on that? Because that's got to be essential, too, to make sure that you are hitting your, you know, essential amount of fat and protein for the day.
Starting point is 00:59:37 I mean, I would think that makes a greater impact than actually getting that person's body fat percentage. Well, it depends why their body fat was in the 30s to begin with. You know what I'm saying? If they just become healthier and then the body fat percentage starts to drop, then they're probably gonna improve their chances of conceiving.
Starting point is 00:59:52 Typically, if you take a woman from 33 or 34% and you do it the right way down to 27, 26%, generally speaking, your health is going to improve. But here's the thing, really really forget the body fat percentage stuff. As I was saying it, I know I was thinking to myself, I probably shouldn't communicate this, because people are going to take this the wrong way. Really, it's stay away from the extremes, right? Too shredded and really, really high.
Starting point is 01:00:18 That's when you'll have some negative effects. The middle, which is going to be a big range, you're probably going to be okay. But if you like shredded, I've done this now, let me think. I've had about five clients I can think of off the top of my head that were hardcore fitness fanatic female clients trying to conceive. And one of the factors that made them successful was taking their body fat from 12%, which is shredded for a girl and gaining it up to 18 or 20%.
Starting point is 01:00:48 And I mean they were trying at the super shredded body fat for a long time and finally it was like look, we got to get your body fat percentage up. You need to eat more food. You got to send a signal to your body that this is okay to get pregnant and sure enough as they gain body fat, they were able to get pregnant. Little berry white doesn't hurt either. Well, you know, the mental state makes a big difference. Like, if you're stressed out a lot, if you even trying to conceive is stressing you out,
Starting point is 01:01:18 that remember, your body doesn't want to put you in a position. Aren't there certain foods in nutrients, though, too, to have a, for ovulation and stuff like that? I believe I remember Katrina reading, and she was eating certain foods that, like, she's supposed to help with her ovulating, like, so aren't there things like that that they can be doing? You want to, you don't want to be any nutrient,
Starting point is 01:01:37 you don't want to have any nutrient efficiencies, so you want to be able to consume meats. You want to have egg yolks are very, very good. A lot of the co-ling that's present in yolk, the cholesterol that's present in yolk. Fish, fish is also very important, that's also important throughout the whole pregnancy. You basically don't want to be deficient in anything. Oh, shellfish have nutrients that are vital to producing or to have a healthy, healthy consumption. Here's the other thing too.
Starting point is 01:02:07 You don't wanna like all of a sudden try and hit new PRs and achieve new athletic performance during this period. You don't wanna challenge your body too hard with exercise while you're trying to conceive. You wanna, that's what you do before, you know what I'm saying? It's not like, okay, we're gonna try and have a baby. Simultaneous, they're trying to hit a new PR and a deadlift and I want to be able to run the mile faster than I did before.
Starting point is 01:02:30 You know, I remember when we were talking with Drew Canoli about it, basically, organified producing more seminal volume. What did he say that? No, remember there was a, we did a, it was a green juice, I believe. Drinking more green juice produces a higher seminal volume. I don't know, I haven't tested that yet. You don't remember, you were the one that puts that up. Yeah, you know, I said that on the podcast,
Starting point is 01:02:50 and then you'd say, oh, I knew about that. You dropped some study that had something to do with something that was in Organifi Green juice. Offeranda? It might be. I don't remember what it was, but it showed that you produce higher volume of semen when you take this.
Starting point is 01:03:05 And I remember that we talked about that was one of the big jokes when we first signed with the one we had a fight that we did this commercial around. I'm just trying to help you guys out. Well, there are supplements that demand. But that's as a say, that's for the guy though, right? Yeah, that's for the guy, as long as I'm talking about. Yeah, there are certain supplements for the woman to take.
Starting point is 01:03:20 Make your husband drink the green juice. Whoa. You each selfish, all drink green juice. There are You each selfish, I'll drink green juice. There are supplements that women can take to help, but I won't recommend any because I don't want to recommend unless a woman works with a doctor or functional medicine practitioner because some of the pro fertility herbs that women can take can also reduce fertility
Starting point is 01:03:42 if it's the wrong woman, if she's taking it and it's not for her. But for a man, a man can take horny goatweed, tribulus terrestris, he could supplement with zinc and then ashwaganda. All of those have been shown to improve sperm motility, sperm number, sperm health. Those are all supplements I took when I was trying for my first two kids and it only took us a couple months or whatever and they tend to help.
Starting point is 01:04:09 But yeah, for women, generally you wanna be healthy and you don't wanna go low in anything. You're not trying to go no-carb and you're not trying to go low fat. You wanna kinda have everything because you want your body to think things are ample. We have lots of resources. I'm not under a lot of stress. That's the state you want to be in. And a good person to fall. Dr. Gabriel Lyon was who was in
Starting point is 01:04:31 communication with Katrina the whole time during us trying to get pregnant and then her pregnancy. So she's been a great resource for us. So if you're not following her on Instagram, you should follow her and look her up to. Next question is from A. Rod goes, ham, what has fatherhood taught you? Just had my first son, what advice would you give to a first time parent? Adam, you're the newest dad. That's a loaded question. Yeah, I mean, since you're the newest dad,
Starting point is 01:04:56 I always love asking you questions like this because it's like, I forgot what it was. So, yeah, no, there's, God, there's been a, there's a lot, right? I don't need a subsets. Yeah, no, there's God, there's been a lot, right? I definitely have an unbelievable amount of patience, empathy and love that I'm not used to. I think that those have been some of the biggest differences
Starting point is 01:05:22 that I've noticed in fatherhood. I might, the way I view a lot of things, I've never been so unselfish in my life. Like just the way I'm with money, I mean, Sal actually said something and he called it, it's weird too, it's really funny. And normally when Sal says something to me, I make a point to try and counter that
Starting point is 01:05:41 and make sure he's wrong. I know it's so annoying. It is, I try really hard sometimes. And I was like, I do not like politics. I find myself following politics weird way more. The world becomes bigger. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:55 It's no, it's cut into my sports time. I'm very nervous about it. Because now you care what's gonna happen. I do. Right. So there's things like that that I didn't think that would happen and that's happened. What else? You know, there's someone asked me on my questions,
Starting point is 01:06:09 what am I most scared about? And I think the thing that I'm, I'm, I'm most nervous about as a father is, I know that it's inevitable that I'm going to come up short somewhere and not knowing where that somewhere is is what scares me. Like every if you talk to any experienced father, they'll always tell you to do the best you can. It'll never be perfect.
Starting point is 01:06:35 There'll always be something that he's mad at you about or resent you for that he didn't. They think that he would have done differently. And so I know that's inevitable, no matter how great of a father I'm trying to be or think I am. And so the fear is what is that going to be? Well, the double edged to that too. And I was talking with my dad actually about this
Starting point is 01:06:53 because it was like, for me, I felt like you had a great job raising me, but there was this moment where also he felt that he underestimated me. And he, like, we had a conversation about this, but I'm like, that's what drove me. You know, that actually like is something that was a good underestimated me. And he, like, we had a conversation about this, but I'm like, that's what drove me. You know, that actually, like, is something that was a good thing for me.
Starting point is 01:07:09 I'm glad that, you know, it was out there to where I had to work, you know, that much harder to kind of prove myself. I have this, like, sort of chip, but it's like, he didn't intentionally do that. It was just like, I assumed it was gonna be, it was gonna go in this direction, and then you totally threw me off by,
Starting point is 01:07:26 you know, like taking all of your initiatives elsewhere. So you just don't know. I mean, I think a lot of it for me, the fear is the unknown. It's just, I don't know exactly like, you think you can predict things and then it just completely goes in a different direction and you're like, okay, I have to be adaptable.
Starting point is 01:07:43 I have to be flexible. I have to, you know to help where I can. I also have, and this is probably gonna piss off a lot of people, especially any of our feminists that listen to the show. You're just pissed them off. I'm just pissed. Well, I've always been very pro.
Starting point is 01:08:01 I'm attracted to a woman that is incredibly independent. She said to me, the first time we ever really started a date was, I don't need you, I want you. She self-made, she was raised to never need or depend on a man. And I'm attracted to that. So I'm very much so, I don't say I'm a pro feminist person, but I would think that the messaging I think around that for the most part, I've been pro for a very long time. And I think
Starting point is 01:08:31 that it has been needed for a century now to the pendulum. It was swung so far one direction that it's it's needed to come back the other. But now I have this new look on a lot of the messaging around that that actually really bothers me, that I'd never bothered me before until becoming a father. And that's because I recognize now the magnitude and the importance of being a good parent and the role that women have played in our society for so long. Like it's, it like gets me emotional just thinking about how important the mom plays a role in the child and that we are encouraging and almost pushing women out into the workforce so hard almost
Starting point is 01:09:15 as if it's an inequality thing. And I don't think that at all. Now I have this humbling attitude of holy shit. I think on this big boss man, I make all this money, I make sure that we can eat and I put this roof over our head. Fuck, none of that matters if it wasn't for her and what she's able to do for my son and take care of our household. The importance of that and the value of that, I think we just, I think we just, I don't
Starting point is 01:09:44 think a lot of people put it aside. I don't think a lot of people have been at a side. I don't think you think about it until you get put in that position. And so, you know, sometimes I think we have this younger generation that's coming up and they're pushing that message so hard to empower woman and hear me roar. And like I said, for the most part,
Starting point is 01:10:00 I've been very pro all of that. But now I'm starting to rethink my stance with that and what it's doing because then it's it's teaching a lot of the women that that you shouldn't be just as proud about being being home like now more than anything else. I look at Katrina and this was very hard for our relationship because I wanted her to stay home, but I knew I couldn't say that. I knew I couldn't tell her, like, don't continue to pursue your dreams and your career. So absolutely what I never do that.
Starting point is 01:10:29 But deep down inside, I was like, man, I hope she wants to do that. And luckily for me, she's in a position where she can do that now and she still works. And but she's now able to stay home all day with our son. And I just, there's so many things that happen, interactions that happen with your son, with other people potentially in the day that I think, man, there's no other person in
Starting point is 01:10:55 the world that I would rather be teaching this young infant right now, then me or her on his morals, his thoughts, his engagement, and we're pushing that agenda so hard about women in the workforce and equality and all those things that I think are important, but almost to a fault now. And that's, and never bothered me before. And sometimes now I see some of the messaging that's out there related to that.
Starting point is 01:11:28 And that's something that's taught me, that I've been taught in this whole fatherhood and being in this position and realizing how fucking and important it is, parenting is, and how hard it is, and how much work it takes to raise a good, a good child. It's 24, seven nonstop all the time. And if we're pushing the men to go out and work hard,
Starting point is 01:11:51 the women to go out and work hard and all that, we're forgetting about the generation that's up and coming and the roles and how that's going to form and shape them. Like ages, you know, three to seven years old are the most formidable times of a human's life, and you are laying the foundation for that is, and if you're so concerned about being an equal person
Starting point is 01:12:14 financially as your partner, that you're putting that as a second. To me, that's the wrong fucking message, man. I just think that when you push one message hard, it simultaneously, maybe on accident, we'll demonize the other side. So I think it's gonna start to balance out. So I can see what you're saying.
Starting point is 01:12:35 What you're talking about. You get what I mean though? I do, I totally do. I never, I never look at it. Actually, a lot of women say that. A lot of women, you have camps where, you know, I'm at home, I stay at home, I work, and then they'll demonize each other. You should be at home with the kid.
Starting point is 01:12:47 No, you should be. Well Courtney experienced that when she left, you know, her job. It was hard for her because of, you know, coming back and then all sort of like not intentionally, but giving snide comments about like, you know, just her not working anymore. Oh, she was like, she doesn't have a purpose anymore. And I'm just like, that's so gross. Like, like, I don't know, that really got to me too. So I use the greatest purpose ever now.
Starting point is 01:13:10 Yeah, and I could totally see it from your angle that you're talking about. And I know it's hard to talk about that because of, you know, we're at society, but it is. It's a very, very important role. And I'm so happy that, you know, she's there to do that. So, you know, I mean, I don't give a fuck
Starting point is 01:13:24 about what everybody thinks. I know for sure, I know for, I pissed off half of our listeners by making a case by making a statement like that, but I mean, it's the truth. True are still for all that too, if that's your purpose. I've never looked at it like that until now. Until now, I mean, until now, I was always pushing Katrina. I mean, her and I used to almost be competitive financially to help
Starting point is 01:13:45 I'll push each other to the grow and you chase your career I'm chasing my career. We're this power couple all about that Then all of a sudden this kid comes in this world and shakes everything up and it not only shakes up our day our schedule But just the way I think yeah, and and and I know I know how important those early stages are and those interactions and the things that they piece together And God damn that there's I can't think of a single thing in in the world that is more important to me right now Then Lynn laying a good foundation like that and man if all I cared about if all we cared about was pushing each other in a financial equality Then that what where do I leave him? You know just throw him in a daycare and he'll figure it out about was pushing each other in financial equality,
Starting point is 01:14:25 then where do I leave him? Just throw him in a daycare and he'll figure it out. Don't worry, we're gonna make plenty of money. You know, I mean, unfortunately sometimes that's necessary, right? Unfortunately, sometimes both parents have to work or it's a single parent, let's be honest. The vast majority of single parents out there
Starting point is 01:14:42 are women. In fact, I had this conversation. I had this conversation with my son when we were going to school. We were driving and I was talking about the values of men. What are the values that men provide? What are the things that we need to do? And I told them I said, one of the most important values
Starting point is 01:15:01 that a man can have is discipline. Now this is not because women can't provide discipline and men are only disciplined, it's not that at all. The reason why the most important value is because men, more than women get pulled to not be disciplined. So I'll explain. So there's a term called Peter Pan Syndrome. This typically doesn't apply as much to women.
Starting point is 01:15:25 If you have a couple that gets divorced, the odds that it's the man that all of a sudden becomes non-existent in his child's life or is not no longer super there are far higher than for the woman. It's more, you see men get pulled more to being the 40 something year old dude that's making tons of money, never got married,
Starting point is 01:15:46 never had kids banging all the hot chicks, hanging out. It's the, I don't have a biological clock, so I could always have kids whenever I want. And at some point I'll have a lot of money and I'll marry some younger girl. So I'm just gonna be this dude that has no responsibility in parties all the time. So a man for a man discipline is extremely,
Starting point is 01:16:05 extremely important for a man as he ages. This is what I, exactly what I told my son, I said, as a man ages becomes more financially successful, he becomes more attractive to more women. That poses a big challenge. It's them, and think about it this way. In society, who are the men that are truly respected? I mean, really respected. Sure, we look at the Hugh Hefner's and the
Starting point is 01:16:27 Dambell's Aryans and that looks cool. They got lots of followers But in real life the men that are respected are the ones that can have access to all that stuff Yeah, but don't decide to be with one woman decide to have children decide go to work to come home at night to be with their family So it's all about against all the odds It's all about discipline and here's the thing about fatherhood. And this is the biggest lesson that you learn right out the gates, and you just keep learning it, is this.
Starting point is 01:16:53 It's hard. It's not nearly as exciting and fun, but it's way more meaningful. Way more meaningful. Why is it hard? It's selfless. You gotta, here's the thing. Here's the big thing.
Starting point is 01:17:05 If you want your kid to grow up to be a particular way, okay, you could coach them, you could talk to them, you could teach them, that has some value. But the truth is, at the end of the day, you have to be the man you want your son to be, or you have to be the person you want your kids to grow up to be. So if you want them to be responsible, honest, humble,
Starting point is 01:17:29 here's a big one. I'll give you guys a personal story. I was like a couple of weeks ago, my kids, they didn't do their chores or whatever. And I got irritated and I actually got angry and raised my voice and blah, blah, blah, blah, type of thing. Now I had every right to be annoyed.
Starting point is 01:17:48 It was the, you know, the 10th time I had told them to do something. So I was definitely, you know, I was definitely valid, but I got angry, I yelled, I let them see that I didn't control myself and just overact it, right? So after all was said and done, I went over to my kids, and this was later on when I calmed down, I went over to my kids,
Starting point is 01:18:11 sat them down, and I said, hey, look, I said, I wanna apologize to you guys. I said, I'm really sorry, I lost my temper. I said, the reason I got mad is valid. You guys should definitely listen to what I'm saying and be responsible, but the way I acted was super inappropriate and I really apologize. Now, did I do that?
Starting point is 01:18:28 Now, some men have trouble doing that because they don't want to show weakness and I want to show their kids. No, I don't apologize. I'm your dad. You do what I say. I did that because I want to show my kids that even their all-powerful father can humble himself
Starting point is 01:18:42 and admit when he was wrong. What is that gonna teach my kids? That's gonna teach them to do the same thing. It's a very important lesson. So it's like, it makes you the best person you could possibly be. I'll tell you that right now, because there's nothing you will, and I know it, your dad now, Adam, so you know exactly what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 01:18:58 It's hard to explain to somebody who's never had kids the amount of love that you have for your child. What you would do for them, there's nothing in the world that you wouldn't do when you really love your kids. So you wanna talk about growing as a person, I think to myself, okay, instead of thinking, how can I teach them better,
Starting point is 01:19:17 how can I tell them what to do, and what kind of structure can I show them? That's all important, I do it too. But oftentimes I'll sit down and be like, am I the man that I would want my kids to be? You know what that does to you? That makes you act a particular way even when they're not around.
Starting point is 01:19:32 When you're out with your buddies, when you're hanging out, when you wanna be lazy, when I come, I did this the other week when I was trying to get my kids off electronics. You know what I had to do? Get off myself. I could tell them not to do it and then sit on my phone and watch TV,
Starting point is 01:19:48 but instead I said, I gotta be the man that I want them to grow up to be. So I got off and it was way, way, way more powerful. Here's the other thing, is that being a father teaches you how to be brave, okay? Not fearless, it's the opposite of the head. It's how to be brave, okay? Not fearless, it's the opposite of that. It's how to be brave. You will never be vulnerable
Starting point is 01:20:08 like you are when you're a dad. I didn't realize how invincible I was until I became a father. Oh, I thought I was vulnerable before, but now you got this baby that you're taking care of and this kid, all of a sudden you got fear. What's gonna happen at school? Who are they gonna talk to?
Starting point is 01:20:24 They're gonna do drugs? Are they gonna make the right decisions? What about this, what if they get sick? What if they get hurt? You know, when you don't have creepy van over there. When you don't have kids, you know, you don't got no fear, man. What are you afraid of?
Starting point is 01:20:35 You're by yourself, whatever, maybe you got a girlfriend, ain't chicken or whatever. All of a sudden you have kids, you're scared as fuck from day one till the day that you probably die, you're always going to worry and have fear, and fear presents the opportunity to be brave. So now I got to move through this world a vulnerable, vulnerable person. I give the example of Superman before.
Starting point is 01:20:57 This was a great conversation I had on my kid years ago when he, you know, he was in, I think it was a tournament. And after the tournament, I asked him how it was and he did well and all that. And he said, Oh, I wish I was brave like you. And I said, What do you mean? He goes, Well, you're not afraid of anything. And I said, Do you think brain Superman is brave for running into a burning building? The fire can't do anything to him. The person who's brave is the fireman that walks in that if he makes a wrong move, he dies. I said, the bravery comes from being afraid and you will never be more afraid and
Starting point is 01:21:31 fearful than when you become a father. That's the biggest lesson that I learned from it. And boy, does that, that one keep getting taught to me. Well, you said something that I think is really important for who the person who's asking this question about becoming a new father that I think about all the time now that I never thought about and you touched on it and it's valuable enough to reiterate it. And that's, you know, when they're, when they're this young right now and they can't speak and tell you how they feel or what they notice or what they don't like, the only thing they can do is watch and emulate what you do.
Starting point is 01:22:03 And so how you act, how you speak, the way you speak to your partner in front of them. Oh, that's a big one. The way that is a big one. The way that a boy especially learns to treat women is the way that you treat his mom 100. And it starts now. Yes, because I think this is the mistake
Starting point is 01:22:21 that a lot of people make is they think that, oh, he's, you know, he can't talk. He's unaware right now, or you don't have any memories of when you were one year's old or eight months old, so you just assume that you didn't. That stuff's getting hardwired in their brain. The way you socialize and interact with other people, especially the people that you're with on a daily basis,
Starting point is 01:22:40 like your spouse, the habits that you have, whether you're staring at someone asked me there today, if I was tired of watching all the kids cartoon stuff. And I said, honestly, I really haven't introduced that. He hasn't watched anything like that yet on TV. He's watched a little bit of sports when I'm watching it, so he gets to watch it. And do not think that I don't think about this to either.
Starting point is 01:23:01 Like if basketball's on, I allow basketball to be on being there because I have one, I so badly want to bond with him. Oh, yes. And then we go down, we walk and go down the park and we play and Katrina and I will shoot hoops while he's in there and we're playing and interacting with him. I mean, that's my way of hoping that this kid's going
Starting point is 01:23:17 to go down that path is because he'll see positive, he'll connect positive things to that. He'll see me loving his mother and having fun and us playing and enjoying it. And that's the same thing with working out. Yesterday we were inside the gym. I think I did a little story. If you saw Katrina, the lights were all off
Starting point is 01:23:33 and she's like pushing the stroller and shoulder pressing at the same time. And you know, we couldn't get him to go to sleep while we were in here working out. And so she did what she had to do to try and get her workout in and still keep him happy at the same time. But like we think about that a lot.
Starting point is 01:23:47 I mean, we think about the, if we have somebody at our house, maybe like five, 10 family members come over for whatever it is. And if one of the family members is talking drama and is talking shit or just like that, you'll see Katrina does this all the time. She's really good about it. It's caught me to do it even now too, where she'll just kind of pick max up and go outside the room, one way to get a big deal, and she'll make it make it.
Starting point is 01:24:08 They feel the energy, man. Fuck yeah, man. And we think about these things. I think about those things that I never thought about before because I know that right now this kid is just a sponge and absorbing everything. And yes, I know it'll never be 100% perfect. Yes, I know.
Starting point is 01:24:24 I'll probably stub my toe and swear. And yes, I know it'll never be 100% perfect. Yes, I know I'll probably stub my toe and swear and shit like that. I know that. But if I'm already at least being active and conscious about the conversations that I'm having in front of him, the my attitude, the energy that I'm putting off in front of him. If I'm at least trying that right now, at least I could be, I'm a little bit better than the person who's not given a shit and not paying attention to that. And I think as a father, it is apparent in general that's extremely important to pay attention. Right, but really, the big one too is especially for those of you who are divorced or you're not with the mother of your child, how you treat your child's mom is one of the main
Starting point is 01:25:02 ways that they learn how to treat women. So if you want your kid, you want your son to grow up to be a good man and to treat women the right way, you better demonstrate that the right way because that's how they learn. They learn from watching you. So show respect, be a good person. At the end of the day, that's the best possible thing you could do. And with that, go to mindpumpfree.com and download all of our guides, resources, and books. They're all totally free.
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