Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1253: The Truth About Kipping Pull-Ups, the Benefits of Drinking a Gallon of Water, Addressing Hypermobility Issues & MORE

Episode Date: March 20, 2020

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about whether the gallon of water a day recommendation is a real thing or just a myth, kipping pull-ups as a substitute for strict pull-ups, combining a therapy practice with personal training, and what to do if lifts are affected by hypermobility. Sal’s self-quarantine. (5:00) The industries that are CRUSHING during this hysteria. (8:00) The influx of online coaching and what NCI is doing to help personal trainers. (8:45) The Ambassador of Health is down! (11:07) What is Sal using to heal his body? (13:40) Support your local business. (16:50) San Francisco is on lockdown. (17:55) Fun Facts with Justin, Star Wars edition. (19:45) What Mind Pump is streaming. (22:05) Will this crisis strengthen or hurt Trump’s chances of reelection? (24:06) Will all these potential bailouts cause a recession? (26:55) Rational thinking goes out of the window during a crisis. (27:42) The importance of changing your workouts when stuck in a rut. (29:00) How to use all-day workouts to eliminate stress. (33:29) Conspiracy hour with Mind Pump, coronavirus edition. (35:53) Mind Pump refuses to slow down! (38:37) #Quah question #1 – Is the ‘gallon of water a day’ a real thing or just a myth? (43:06) #Quah question #2 – Are kipping pull-ups a good substitute if I can only do one or two strict pull-ups? (50:55) #Quah question #3 – What are your thoughts on combining a therapy practice with personal training? (56:00) #Quah question #4 – You guys have discussed the importance of mobility work, but what should you do if your lifts are affected by hypermobility? (1:02:01) Related Links/Product Mentioned March Promotion: MAPS Powerlift ½ off! **Code “POWER50” at checkout** Special Promotion: MAPS Anywhere ½ off!! **Code “WHITE50” at checkout** MAPS Prime, Prime Pro, AND Prime Bundle are half off! (ends Saturday night-March 21st, 2020) **Code “PRIME50” at checkout.** Are you a Mind Pump Listener? FREE COACHES TRAINING WITH Jason Phillips for FREE! Visit Organifi for the exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code “mindpump” at checkout** Amazon is hiring 100,000 new workers in the US to deal with the coronavirus boom Marijuana businesses allowed to stay open in San Francisco, New York Love Is Blind | Netflix Official Site Westworld - Official Website for the HBO Series Trump Administration Swears Proposed Hotel, Airline, Cruise Bailout Is Totally Not a Bailout Casinos ask Congress for emergency aid as coronavirus toll sweeps industry How to Create Your Own Home Gym – Mind Pump Blog How to Stay Fit When Gyms are Closed Due to Coronavirus (COVID-19) - Mind Pump Blog How to Stay in Shape Without a Gym Membership – Mind Pump Blog Revealed! Coronavirus not man-made disease, say scientists Event 201 Pandemic Exercise: Highlights Reel Throwback: Greg Glassman Regrets Teaching Kipping Pull-Ups in CrossFit Workouts Mind Pump TV - YouTube Rubberbanditz Resistance Band Set Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Greg Glassman (@CrossFitCEO) Twitter

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. Mind up, mind up with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this episode of Mind Plum, so we start out by talking about my self-quarantine. For the next few episodes, you'll be hearing me through the phone. I got sick. That's right. I actually got sick. And so I'm doing the right thing by holding myself up in the house and being depressed while Adam Justin and Doug get to enjoy the beautiful house up in Tahoe.

Let me talk about the York Spence. Thank you. Then we talk about Amazon at home learning and NCI. Okay. So look, here's what's going on right now, right? Economies go into crap, but some businesses are actually succeeding. One of them is online coaching. It's probably crushing right now. A lot of trainers aren't training people in the gym, but they are going to be training people virtually. We work with a company that provides online coaching certifications. So actually certified trainers to do this online.

So right now what NCI is offering is a free training webinar with Jason Phillips. And this thing's all about how to build, operate, and scale a six-figure nutrition coaching business. So this is very valuable for all you trainers out there. Right now that might be out of work. Go check this out. It's totally free. And it'll help you pivot your business during these uncertain times. Here

you do, go to nceicertifications.com forward slash mind pump. I talked about Fendi Greek time and ginger tea, that's what I'm using right now to help myself feel better. I'm also using organifies green juice and immunity. Now organifying makes organic supplements. They are one of our sponsors And of course because you're a mind-pump listener you get 20% off just go to organify.com Forstash mind pump use the code mind pump to get that massive discount Then we talked about San Francisco on lockdown, but not the weed shops. No way. Not our weed San Francisco on lockdown, but not the weed shops. No way. They're safe.

Not our weed. Justin got to talk about George Lucas, his net worth, and the Phil Fox office revenue. I talked about a show on Netflix that I'm watching, because again, I'm stuck at home. Love is blind, that sucks. But I do still refuse to watch Westworld. The boys keep trying to push me to do that.

And get them. Shame your way. Then we talked about whether or not this crisis is going to strengthen or hurt Trump's chances of Trump's chances, excuse me, of staying in office. So we speculate whether or not this is going to make it easier or harder for him to win reelection. We talk about airlines, restaurants, casinos, and how they're all pleading for bailouts. I thought it was funny that casinos are trying to get a bailout. I talked about how being homebound, you can change your workouts and some of the things you can do at home to keep your body progressing. One of them being how you can lift heavy weights for with short rest. We also talk

about all day workouts. And then I talked about the conspiracy of whether or not Corona virus was created in the lab or it was, it's natural. Then we got into the fitness questions. The first question was, is a gallon of water a day a real thing or is that just a myth? The next question, are keeping pull-ups a great substitute if I can only do one or two strict pull-ups? The third question, what are our thoughts on combining a therapy practice with personal training? Therapy being talk therapy. So talk therapy with personal training is that a good thing? And the final question, you know, we've discussed the importance of mobility work, but what if somebody is hyper-mobile,

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This is how you get the 50% optically count. Go to mapswhite.com and use the code white50. That's WHITE50 on no space or the discount. Justin and I, as you can see, the notes that we sent over this morning, so like four hours worth of content. Yeah, we didn't we didn't realize until Recording yesterday without you fucking a how much you talked, dude. Yeah You feel so much like airspace, dude. It's amazing. I got I got all these messages from people They're all worried that I'm leaving but they you know you're five you're contracting

People I believe that I love you, dude. No, no. So we should tell the audience what's going on. So I got pretty sick. I actually haven't been this sick in a very long time. Because it's a scary time. My symptoms are all, you're ready for my symptoms. Really bad cough, low-drate fever You know sore throat

You know all the all the scary symptoms So I'm trying to do the right thing and self-quarantine which means I can't be around You hand some fellows for the next couple weeks, so we're gonna have the podcast Through the phone like this. Yeah, I't know what to do with this weird boner. I know. I know how to deal with it. It's better though than me just having to talk to Justin. I tell you what, dude, his jokes are only funny when you say smart shit and he falls

stuff with stuff. They're not the same. Hey man. Yeah, they're not as punchy without you. Yeah. Well, I need the setup guy. Well, I mean, you know, not a whole lot has changed. This is the fact that I'm, you know, I'm virtual now. I mean, I podcast naked anyway, so I'm still doing the same thing. Yeah, everything else is the same except I can't really see your guys's faces, which, no, that's kind of sad. You guys are both a very handsome. see i know you are your hopped up on all kinds of drugs and meds right now trying to mend

but are you are how much uh... how much of the news and are you following right now uh... i mean i'm i'm looking at it and i'm reading it and uh... uh... as of right now it doesn't seem like it's blowing up in the u-s so i you know it's weird i think we're gonna find out in a few months if this was a big overreaction or if they did the right thing. I don't know because it's huge right.

And all the schools are closed. Oh yeah. For the rest of the year. Yeah, they said to fall, which was pretty insane, man. I mean, that's that was crazy. I thought I was just going to be for a couple of weeks and then it was like business as usual. So yeah, I don't know, but you know, like I said, I want to do the right thing and I don't want to get anybody else

Sick I mean poor Jessica she got it too So we're both at home just shutting you know shutting things down and my my dad's bringing us food and and herbs and stuff and you know he does he drops it off at the at the door and he leaves So we open the door and then we go pick it up. Yeah, nobody wants That's the so that's the policy right now. Yeah, uh, obviously I think, uh, I think the last statistic I read that, um, 18% of, of Americans are dealing with, uh, layoffs already that's happening. That's, uh, sweeping the nation. I'm sure that it's going to increase.

But there are some companies that are thriving right now, like your, uh, your door dashes and grub hubs. They seem to be exploding right now, and that's the protocol. You order curbside or you order delivery, and then they just drop it off at your house and then let you know, hey, it's at your front doorstep. Well, dude, my mother-law, she works for whole foods. And, you know, they're a grocery store, and everybody's, everybody got raises. I know Amazon is looking to hire something like a thousand

more employees because people are going to be doing things online. So the economy is going to take a hit, but some segments are going to be crushing. Fitness space is interesting. The fitness space, I think everybody in the fitness space is freaking out because the gyms are closing, but online coaching, this could present huge opportunity for online coaching. No, 100%. 100%.

It's the time, if you haven't, I mean, we've talked about this on the show for some time. I mean, it's what United, the three of us trainers over five years ago was kind of seeing the writing on the wall that were moving more into this virtual social media space and that we needed to establish ourselves there and that's kind of part of the reason why we're at we're at. I feel like now everybody in that space is kind of being forced to figure things out, but you're seeing some really cool positive stuff. There's some trainers that are getting creative.

Did you see what NCI is doing? I don't know how much you're up on our news with. No, I was just going to ask you about that. Because NCI does online coaching certification. So I would assume that they are probably, if they're not crushing, they're going to crush, right? Because all these trainers are going to be looking for online certifications that can continue to service their clients.

Are they doing it? What's going on with that? So they're offering a free webinar right now, how to scale your, you know, scale a six-figure business. Wow. Virtually online for trainers. And it's a free webinar. They're offering for our listeners.

So that's really cool. It's on our partner link and, you know, at the intro dugger, you will actually put it in there so people can go after it. But that's really cool. It's on our partner link and I'm, you know, at the intro, Doug, or you will actually put it in there so people can go after it, but that's really cool. And so I think we're going to see, you know, I think a lot of people are freaked out in our space right now, but I think you're going to start to see some people start to figure things out. I'm already seeing some trainers. I mean, we have a lot of people in our community that own prime, Prime Pro, anywhere, these are all at home equipment-free type programs are teaching their clients now virtually that, so that's working out really well.

Yeah, these webinars, I've seen people kind of pop up with or it's a pretty cool thing too. So if you were thinking about going to a certification, I know right now they're kind of stopping that in terms of like meeting in groups, but they're offering a webinar or live streaming version of it instead for a lower price. And so it's like you could still get the valuable education of it. I know that NCI I think was also looking into that because they were going to come to our facility in San Jose. And I think that they're going to be pivoting is something like that to offer as well. Oh, that's awesome. But I wanted to tell the audience, just my experience,

even this morning talking to you guys, because I've been at home sick and just whatever feeling bad about myself. And you guys are up at the house, and up in the so nice, up in the beautiful snow with a nice studio up there. And then you guys are like, oh, we're going to be up here for another week, Sal.

I'm like, you son of a, like, you guys even tell me. You we're going to be up here for another week, Sal. I'm like, you son of a, like, you guys even tell me you guys are going to be up there for another week. So I get on the phone to them all. I'm like, you know, I'm all inflamed and pissed off and sick or whatever. So I'm like, why don't you guys tell me and you guys are like, look, we don't want to be around you. Yeah. We didn't know how to tell you.

And I'm like, I don't want your shit, bro. But it made perfect sense. I'll say oh, yeah Yeah, it's not like we don't want to include you dude. That's ridiculous This is not here man. No, yeah What's the light up there? Is it because I know down here? It seems like you know normal life around here in San Jose It doesn't seem to I'll tell you what, I went to the doctors the other day because they were going to prescribe me some antibiotics, because I was doing phone appointment with a doctor and they thought, you know, just in case I had,

you know, if I get bronchitis, they prescribe me some antibiotics, so I went to the doctor's office, the pharmacy or whatever, and you know, I'm not, you know, here's a funny thing too, I'm a hypokondriac anyway, so you can imagine what this is doing to my side. I know it was the worst possible person in the group I think. I was like oh no our ambassador belt is down. So I had on so check this out right so I go to the I go to Kaiser or whatever. You did not get suited up. Did you? Yeah, I had I had on late text gloves I had on this like mask like you know when you go to need your gardening. That's only mask I had right

So I had a big card Gardening mask I had my hoodie over my head, you know under any Under any other circumstance as people would have never let me in the building. I was in there waiting for my medicine, sweating my dick off because my stupid master, not very comfortable man, my face was all sweaty. Anyway, I'm in there and this dude walks in with this Darth Vader-looking homemade mask, which looks crazy. And he comes up to me and goes, yeah, and I'm looking at the guy and I'm like, this guy's a weirdo, right? mask which looks crazy. Yeah. And he comes up to me and he goes, yeah, and I'm looking at the guy

and I'm like, this guy's a weirdo, right? Anyway, he walks up to me and he goes, hey, what'd you get your mask, dude? That's really cool. I like the way I'm wearing it. Oh, shit. I'm the other weirdo. I'm the other weirdo.

I'm the other weirdo. Mido's unite. Yeah. But it won't, so I've been doing a few things to treat kind of how I feel so my my my godfather is And yes, he's an actual godfather not like the godfather in the movies I hope people we think yeah, whatever. Yeah, he's an herbalist So he recommended that I take

I he he sent me some ginger capsules some fennec Greek some ginger capsules, some fenugreek and thyme capsules. I guess the fenugreek and thyme are expectorants, so they thin the mucus to help you get it out. Ginger is anti-viarol, anti-inflammatory, and so I make this tea with it, and I drink it, and then I've been crushing the organified green juice in and immunity three times a day. So we'll see what happens here, but I'm still still down and out. It's been what five days now. Yeah, I got a bunch of shit. Did you see my story on the organified juice? I got a bunch of shit from people. People can't take it to the top. No, it wouldn't happen. Yeah, people can't take a joke. Somebody asked me me, what do you do with limited supplies of food right now? What are you eating?

There's rock star gummies and green juice for balance for more. Yeah. No, it's funny about it, dude, because we went to the grocery store and there's crazy. It's crazy. Nothing there. So it's like your choices are limited. We're eating like processed meat and stuff, because that was like all of those there. And so we've been down in the green juice like crazy, trying to's like, that's the healthiest thing we're getting in right now.

Well, there's like, like some frozen vegetables, but not enough, you know, too, we're been trying to eat that. But like, yes, this has been totally helping us. This, this is all like this, that part right there, man made a panic and scarcity. There's no reason. Yeah, that's frustrating. There's no reason yet that's frustrating there's no reason for that kind of scarcity right now people are just freaking out did you

see that did you see the post that bar sp in bar still did like I think it was yesterday day before of the asshole that had like we know one of the you know those big Mercedes vans now you know the sprinter vans is that what they're called the one that we drove to the airport the other day right yeah yeah completely completely empty it didn't have seats in it or anything like that. Filled to the top of fucking toilet paper. Just driving around from store to store, stocking up. They're going to be slinging it for like 10 bucks a roll, you know? It's the dumbest thing ever. It's not like we're going to go out. We're going to run out of toilet paper. It's like gold.

Yeah, silly. I have one of those little bad days, you attach to your toilet seat. Yeah. So I'm sad, man, if I run a job, even all euro on us, huh? Yeah. Yeah. I'll just be sprang, see I spring it down and then just air dry or whatever. Justin, Justin volunteered to wash my ass. So I'm going to I hose them down every night. What a france, what a france for? What a nice guy. Yeah, I'm here for it. You can get it out of the hair and everything I need a power washer for that Well, you know what they're listen. There's no short. So here's a deal. There's no shortage

You know I've been doing since I've been sick because I have you know I got food here at home that I'm saving to but I'm like you know what I'm gonna do I'm gonna door dash every freaking restaurant is available for door dash. It's awesome. I mean, people like a king right now. Yeah. Well, you know what, too, you know, a lot of, I think we've been trying to incur,

I've been trying to encourage people to do that to support your local businesses too. Yeah. Oh, yeah. If you're a perfect salesman. Yeah, if you're a mom-paw shop right now that, you know, is used to having your restaurant doors open and you rely on foot traffic every day coming in and out of there,

a lot of these people, they're hurting worse than anybody else. So, I mean, that's a big concern is taking, and that's a simple thing that we can do, right? Instead of freaking out over the grocery stores, I mean, order out for right now, order out and support your local business. You know what I was speculating about too, because the takeout is still doing really well, that I wonder how many people have signed up to become an Uber driver.

Like if they've actually added, you know, new people into the system just to get some extra cash like while everybody's sort of on lockdown. I don't know if anybody's taking Uber right now. Would you, I don't know, that sounds like something. No, people aren't. Yeah, because even in San Francisco, they allow that as one of the businesses to still be open. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. Do you know what else happened to San Francisco? What? Tell me, dude. So they put them down. They basically shut everything down, right? And initially, they shut down the weed shops. So they said, you know, no weed dispensaries, keep those

clothes and there was an uproar. What are we supposed to do inside? Yeah. So it's one of the, they consider it one of the necessary businesses. So you have the grocery stores, you have the bar feed, man. And yeah, you can get and you can get weeds. That was my one mistake. We left up in here in such a hurry. I got up here and one point Justin and I were sitting out to do the way to get up if you get up here at one point. The snow out here.

I mean, we're probably in a good four to five feet. It's waste if not up into the torso high. Yeah. Wow. Wow. At one point him and I, we went out to out to you know because he's got the kids coming tomorrow So we went out to start building them a you know a little Sled sled slide whatever thing right so man made one right so we're out there a

Sled slide. Yes, let's lie you know the fuck I Like it's a bargain run. Yeah We're at which cool running which was the fucking that was our workout yesterday just walking through way steep snow and then shoveling it and making this off of the kids but then we're sitting there chilling and I mean it's just absolutely beautiful. You don't see another person inside anywhere. It's completely uh, desslet out here but I didn't have I said the only thing I was missing was a joint to smoke and totally left up here. So this is gonna this is my unscheduled opportunity. My unscheduled break from marijuana

just happened and it didn't mean for it to happen. Well, you might want to stick to addables and keep your lungs healthy better, Adam. Yeah, I know you were telling me that like a week or two ago, but I don't know. If it's gonna take me, it's gonna take me, man. I think it's so dangerous. Just yeah, right now, right?

He's on the wild side. Well, we definitely been getting caught up on our movies. I got Adam to order the Star Wars, the latest one that came out, and we didn't even make it all the way through. So we were kind of talking about that, that kind of spark conversation about, you know, how well the franchise was actually doing,

and you know, all the numbers with George Lucas because basically sold the entire franchise for like 4.1 billion. I guess his net worth now is like 6.5 and it looks like like the pivot now with with Disney is to focus all on the streaming service. So Mandalorian crushed and they're all of the latest like Star Wars have actually taken a hit, especially the last one, like got really low box office numbers. So they're kind of scrambling to kind of readjust and make it all like more focused on just the TV version of Star Wars. Well, you have to tell Sal what this, this, this, this started when it was a high conversation

last night, Justin gave passed out Edibles and we, the reason why we didn't finish, we didn't finish what we lied. Two seconds. Well, smoking, you know, it's different, right? So we're sitting there and we're watching the, the new Star Wars and, you know, Justin, you being the, the Star Wars nerd that he is, it's always like filling me in on like the backstory of, you know, this, you know, this was JJ Abrams' decision to do this and how he worked together with all the stuff

that you have to be a total kid. Everybody's getting really annoyed. And then I go, you know, if he did this, why did he give up all the rights? And of course, you know, he got paid $4 billion. And so it started this big debate or discussion between the three of us about, you know, at what point do you sell out something that's your baby like that, right?

And like how much do you have to be worth already to say no to a billion dollars? And so we were all speculating, like I said, if you was only a hundred millionaire before that getting four billion dollars is still life changing for that person. But if you're already a billionaire, accepting four million to give away your kid right would you do it yeah no yeah no no it would have to be an exorbitant amount i think especially for something like that but i think i think screaming is uh... it's got to be blown up right now i mean netflix has got to be crushing too because i i'm over here watching stupid as shit ever have you guys watched love is blind on that one did you see the me tell me tell me tell me I see I've watched it in the middle right so have you tell me you've watched the or seen the meme

going around for it no I did okay so have you watched all of it or how far are you into it yeah do that watch the whole damn thing okay so you know what, she's Brazilian, right? The Brazilian girl blonde. Yeah, that's a cute crazy girl. Yeah, yeah, the crazy, okay. So she goes crazy in the kitchen and freaking out on them, on that rant, and he's just like sitting in the bed like listening to her.

So there's a meme going around, or it's like a, I don't know if you call it a meme because it's actually a video clip of somebody, but they split it like a meme showing her, and it's showing like girls that have memorized that whole scene and they're and they're reenacting it to their boyfriend. Yeah, like practicing that long. That's how bad it's kind of a really.

We're fucking yeah, we're reenacting love is blind fucking. What a trivialized show, right? Like, yeah, like they're just, oh, we're just going to get married. I don't have no idea who you are, but that's the end goal, right? And then they see what's were married Yeah, and then and then while they're doing it like this is the biggest decision of my life I'm like the wire to show yeah Yeah, to pick who's gonna. Yeah, but I'll tell you what you know because I've been at home watching just garbage

I still Refused to watch Westworld I don't know what's wrong with you like sound dude I still refuse to watch Westworld. So I'm not gonna watch that. I don't know what's wrong with you. Like, Sal, dude, if I have any intervention, I wanna have it about this. Because you guys, I'm so, because you got to be so hard.

Come on, man. Like, dude, every time we go to the travelway, yeah, I know, right? Yeah, we should have learned from that. Well, we gave up. I think it just reunited this conversation because we watched the third one again, and we were watching it, you know, going,

why does sound like this? It's just so, so like, you can't be a science nerd and not like it. It's just got so many layers too. I just like when they take that much time to really string all these different stories together and make it like super epic. So, hey, I know, I know that I know that Doug doesn't like when we get too political on

the show, but I feel like it's a must we have to talk about what you like. Fuck Doug is what you're saying. Well, no, I just, I like, I know you're sitting around watching it as much as we're watching right now. And there's, and I know we all have both uh... hardcore conservative liberal friends down the middle libertarian friends uh... we i think that uh... you're probably getting as much as i'm getting between everyone like that what is your take

on uh... how trump is going to navigate to this and you think it's possible that he still gets reelected you think he still wins out of this yet the the odds that a president gets that at that uh... you know current president gets unceded during a national emergency is extremely low that's almost never happens if you guys remember uh... september eleventh uh... you know before that that bush had terrible

approval ratings uh... nobody like that but the argument the argument to that and i that I've heard already that I'm going to challenge you on, is that people say that that's because the reason why it's approval went right, because he did something, right? Everybody wanted us, everybody wanted us to rally and say, fuck you and come after him. And that was kind of his response. And that's what won over everybody. What I feel like what's happening right now with Trump is, is approval rating really going up? Is up is this is this i feel like more people are talking shit about how he handled it

and is it too early to tell yeah no i don't think this is because when when in in times of uncertainty you don't want more uncertainty you don't want to try anything new you want to stay with what you have to in psychology and anytime you go throughout all history anytime there's a crazy national you know, unless it was caused by the president that was in charge, nobody wants to get rid of them. And then here's the deal.

Trump consistently gets raided highly when it comes to the economy. And with the economy now, likely going to be going into recession, good luck trying to get him unseated. He's already talked about giving. Did you guys hear about, he said that they're talking about giving Americans like a thousand dollars a month. A month? Yeah, in the mail room.

Yeah, for what's going on, right? I actually just read that. That's confirmed, isn't it? I thought what I read said that it's definitely happening. Something like that. I know they're going to be pumping trillions of dollars into the economy to try and keep it from crashing. I don't see him getting unseated right now with all this uncertainty with all this fear. But who knows, due because the elections later on this year,

who knows what it's going to look like. But right now, it's just a lot of like fear. It's a lot of, you know, let's all do this stuff in just in case or let's prevent, you know, scary things from happening. I mean, who knows? You got airlines and restaurants and casinos that are pleading for bailouts right now. So much as banks were pleading for it back in08, you know, that what gets me worried is that if all these these massive mega, you know, industries end up needing bail

out, I can't see us not falling into a recession. At least not a mini one, if not a big one. Yeah, and who's and who's giving the money to them? That's from us. Right, right. So I'm saying, I think it's funny that just you know, I want to be Please help us we need to stay a bit more money. Yeah I'm sure there's a lot of pissed off people like You guys have taken my enough of my money already. Yeah, I did hear it on on a positive note Regardless like the thing we were talking about with toilet paper and grocery stores that that was just an initial wave of most of

us Americans being idiots. And the grocery stores are already catching back up and I hear that that's going to be all restocked. And most of these people that went and bought shit for the next fucking nine months aren't going to need to go the grocery store for the next month or two. So it'll be everyone everyone that is kind of panicking If you went there like we did the other things and all we had was like you're the toilet paper king. We get it Yeah, no my mother law said that she said that the it's Everyday it's less and less Is he they're getting a lot of phone calls Still she said, but she said people are starting to calm down. You can't find certain medicines. Like you go try and find like Tylenol or ibuprofen and it's gone.

Like what are people doing? They're buying like 15 bottles. I know, my God, probably. It's still, yeah. Seeing what people are doing out there is crazy. But what's weird to me though is like we don't have a shortage of any of that. Like, and that's all stuff that you normally could get delivered. I mean, I don't understand.

It doesn't make sense to me why, I don't know. But obviously, when something like this happens, a lot of people don't act very rational. In there, I guess if this strings out and nobody's getting paid, and it's like at some point, like how do they pay for their food and all that kind of stuff. But I'm getting a lot of,

and I'm getting a lot of DMs from people who are doing their workouts at home and finding new ways of training their body. I had one girl DM me and she said that, she's like, well, I've been working at it at home now for the last week because my gym clothes and she's like, and I'm, my appetite is up. Why am I hungry? And I'm like, it sounds like you needed the change in your body's trying to build muscle. I'm getting a lot of messages like that

where people are actually noticing improvements in their physique because they were forced, you know, it's like, you know how it is, you get stuck in your routine so much because you go to the gym all the time. But now that you're forced, you have to improvise, but that improvisation gave you the novelty and the change that your body needed.

Well, you have been seeing a lot of that. You remember when we, I just and I were just actually speculating about this, right? So we, a map anywhere has been like our red-headed stepchild forever. I mean, it's been one of those programs that we were, when we finished it, we were most proud of and thought the thought that we put into that program reminds me of kind of like prime. There's just, it's got so many different elements to it that we thought through that is so unique to an at-home program, especially for somebody who actually still wants to build and literally change it.

It's not like a maintain or, oh, if it's just for people that are scared to lift heavy weights. No, it's like, we remember we made it in three different levels to intensify it. And when we first launched it, we had a smaller wave of people came through than we are having come through right now. And the response that we got was incredible. It was just that not a lot of people jumped on it

because they didn't feel like they wanted to or they needed to or it wasn't the program for them. Now what I'm seeing is people going through it and we're starting to get those responses from that small community that we originally had when we launched it. So it's pretty cool to see that because I think that program for a long time,

just- It didn't get enough love. No, definitely not. It's cool to see it. But you remember when we wrote it, right? I remember when we wrote it, I remember all the, obviously every time we wrote a program, we've always been proud of what we've created,

but maps anywhere was up there with the way we felt about maps prime just as far as the created creativity and thought for all levels of fitness that would be potentially wanting to work at home with no equipment, how we trust. Yeah, we tried to ninja corrective exercises in there in ways to address postural issues, all kinds of things.

That's a symmetric sentence. Yeah, I mean, address postural issues, all kinds of things. That's a symmetric sentence. Yeah. I mean, we just weaved it all in that program. We put a lot of thought in that program. So it's cool to see people using that right now. Yeah. And then there are a lot of people who have like your basic setup home gym like barbell,

dumbbell, adjustable bench, and you know, maybe a place to do squats or whatever. If you got that, you could pretty much do anything. You know, you could do any of our almost any of our got that, you can pretty much do anything. You know, you could do any of our, almost any of our maps programs, you know, whether it's power lift or anabolic, you can even do aesthetic and split strong. You just have to modify some of the exercises. You're pretty set. There's a few techniques you could do too, if you want to, like if you're used to working out with like a million or one different machines or whatever, but now you're at home and you just have your barbell and your dumbbells or whatever.

There's a few things you could do to change things up that doesn't require you to try a million different exercises. One thing, and I was thinking about this this morning, a combination that oftentimes doesn't get done, is heavy weight with short rest periods. A lot of people, we never think to do heavy weight with short rest. It's always heavy weight long rest periods, but I've actually done this in the past where I've taken a heavy squat or a deadlift and I'll do like one or two reps and I'll rest 30 seconds and then I'll do another one or two reps and then I'll rest 30 seconds.

I'll do another one. It's a very different feeling So if you're you know if you're listening and you have your you know basic you know gym setup with weights That's one way you could try working out almost no one ever almost never talks about Doing heavy weights with short rest periods because and that's not the standard protocol But in terms of novelty There's definitely some value. I know.

You take like a 80%, you know, 75, 80% of your max, you know, I love doing this with deadlift. And it's a similar feel as like cluster setting, you know, I just, it's a cool way to work out or you set the weight up like that with about 80% of what you can handle load and then you just do singles with 30 seconds to 45 second rest periods in between. It's great. Did you see, to remember back when you talked about the all day workout and you were experimenting

with that, I've had a lot of messages of people are like, well, I'm pretty much confined to my house and I wanna experiment with this and give it a try. So just revisiting that episode and I was directing people to that, how you did that and stuff and spread it out throughout your day. It's like just kind of a cool, fun thing to do if you're more of an advanced lifter. Dude, if you're stuck at home, I tell you what, instead of doing a one hour

workout, once a day, right now, I just got home, take your one hour workout and divide it up and do three 20 minute workouts and split them up and watch what happens. It's remarkable. Smoothing up a workout like that can really produce some pretty significant results. And if you're at home anyway, instead of watching things like Love is Blind, try working out throughout the day that way, and the results are pretty. I did that like you said, Joseph, I did that with free weights, but you could do that with body weight exercises too, where instead of doing it all at once, do it at AM, PM, and here's the other thing too.

And this is for mental health. When you listen to experts talk about how you, you know, to best survive a stressful situation, they'll always tell you to break up the day into chunks. So, you know, if you're stuck at home for a week, then you wanna break it down day by day, and then you wanna break it down, okay, I'm gonna get to lunch, okay, I'm gonna get to dinner. And, I'm going to get to dinner.

And the one of the great ways to do that, especially if you're a fitness fanatic, is you wake up in the morning, you do a 20 minute workout. Okay, my next 20 minute workout is that noon. So I'm just going to get, you know, just going to do stuff and wait until then. And then here's my 20 minute workout. And then okay, I got my next one at 6 o'clock tonight. And it breaks up your day and it should help with the stress of isolation of being stuck at home.

So. No, I plan to do that while we're up here. I think it's perfect, because we have it. Did you see, by the way, did you see Justin's platform coming together? I'm so angry right now, I swear to God, you guys are up there. I have to reinforce it for all your crazy deads bro.

Oh it's gorgeous. That gym we have set up and there looks amazing. I can't wait to go up there and try it out. Have you guys seen the herd of the conspiracy theories around the coronavirus by the way? Oh my God, in lightness. I've heard some. I want to hear what you're hearing. Well that it's man made for one, right? Yeah, so that's the big one, right?

Because there's this laboratory in Wuhan where the virus came out of that apparently they study viruses and they've got like 1500 viruses there that they would ever and people are saying, oh it was created by Chinese scientists or it was a man made or whatever. Well anyway, they actually studied the virus.

And there was a, I can't remember who did it, but it was a company that actually took the virus, studied it, and they analyzed it. And so let me read it to you. It says here, they analyzed the public genome sequence data from the coronavirus, the one that we're talking about right now, SARS-CoV-2, and they found no evidence that the virus was man-made in a laboratory.

So they said they confirmed it was natural. Yeah, I don't know what to believe. I thought, did you see the, if you haven't seen this, you should watch it. I thought it was interesting. One of our listeners and people in the forum shared a video. It was a link to YouTube link. I'll have Jackie share it in the show notes, but it was on our forum. If you haven't watched it, you should watch it. According to that video, it came from pigs. And according to that video, and it's live, it's clips of them discussing and talking about it four months ago.

So it's really. Yeah, no, it's wild. You should listen to it. Yes. I thought it was from back. Exactly. That's the bats. And then there was a art vark type creature that they said that they had tested that had the coronavirus in around Woonhawn in that wet market area. So I don't know, man. I don't know what to believe. You know what's weird is that, doesn't it say, doesn't it say in the Bible to avoid eating pigs? Am I tripping? I don't know, I don't know if it says that you avoid eating pigs.

Like to avoid eating. I think pork is been, I know some religions don't eat pork. Yeah, I know that, but it's weird, and I know they carry a lot of disease, and I'm wondering if that's why it's in so many religions. Right. Because we have the swine flu, you know, H1N1 swine flu killed a lot of people worldwide, infected millions of people. That was a nasty one. And geez, if this virus came from pigs too, that's interesting.

Yeah. Well, then we had what, the other one came from birds, right? Mm-hmm. Oh, that's true. Yes, we had the bovine one. Yeah, all right, the mad cow. Oh, that feels, well, that feels my conspiracy.

Yeah. Sorry, dude. Yeah, yeah, because I lost. Hey, so be honest, what was, what was, what did it feel like listening to the podcast just day without yourself on it? Was it all, was it, did you want to punch your, did it feel awful or what?

It was hard for me to listen to. Yeah, I was. No, no, no. I, you know what, it was actually a little emotional for me because I haven't missed an episode with you guys since early, early days. There's only one other episode that I wasn't on. And I was way back.

And I don't know what episode number that was before a hundred so but I also felt a tremendous sense of gratitude for you guys to be able to do that and keep things running, you know You know mind pumps not gonna slow down and a lot of people look forward to listening to us And we have a responsibility right now to help entertain people, take people's minds off of, you know, the seriousness of things and inform people on fitness and health. And so, you know, I was,

and plus I'm sick, you know, when you sick, you get a little emotional weird, so. So, yeah, go read the reviews, that always helps. Yeah, yeah, it was a, yeah, yeah, that always makes me feel better, right? Go back and read the old, I tend to review. It was very interesting feeling because you're right. It has early on we tried this out like really, really early on in the first like I don't know it was like I want to say the first 100 episodes when we each were gone one time and that was different and weird back then. It was really

weird now you forget and for me it reminds me of me of playing sports with somebody you grew up playing with for years. And then all of a sudden, having to either play without them or with different players on the team, that's what it felt like. It felt like it felt like a timing rhythm, you know, just, it's totally different when you don't have the full team there, for sure. Yeah, but I really appreciate you guys for holding it down. It was like I haven't been knocked down like this in a long time and you know and again just to do the right thing,

it's I don't want to be around. I mean you got a baby at home. Yeah. Adam and Justin you have two little ones and you know Doug. This kind of Rachel's pretty pissed too right now this is going to fuck her ambassador health t-shirt launch that she was doing. Oh, I don't think it's gonna sell it. You're taking on the diseases of the world. That's how I'm spinning it. You know what I mean?

Listen, ambassador of health doesn't mean I'm immune. It's all about the bounce back, right? But although maybe it will serve us if we find out you did have the coronavirus and you survived, maybe T.C. sales would do well. Yeah. Then you guys have to have the antibodies. I'm going to start.

Extracting from you. I was just going to say you can harvest my antibodies. Yeah. I'm just trying to figure out how we could spend this and actually do actually come up out of this situation and I survived so we can continue to pay our team and keep going here. So hopefully, hopefully we make it out. It is weird though right now. There's like so many people who have the same thing that I had like again, it's here's the truth. The odds are that if you're six, you probably

don't have the coronavirus. It's far more likely that you have another virus because there's, you know, right now there's millions of people in America with really bad cold viruses, there's way more people with the flu. So I'm not saying this to make people not go to the doctor if they have symptoms, I'm just saying the paranoia and fear can really fuck with you. The odds are I was probably exposed to a cold or the flu and that's that's what I ended up getting and you know even the doctor I went to you know said the same thing and was like no you're you're the odds are you don't have that you know I didn't travel internationally I you know I didn't do anything like that I mean aside from the bat suit that I had the other day there's nothing

else left. Damn itself. Yeah so but yeah it But yeah, it's important we got to keep ourselves sane because this is a weird time, man. And if we sit around and freak out, we're going to hurt your overall muscle and strength, Max and Obolic is the perfect place to start. With a full 30-day money back guarantee, there is absolutely zero risk. So what is your waiting for? Go to mindpromidia.com and get started today!

It's the motherfucking clause. An eagerness landage! Quee-cwa. All right, our first question is from Susan Demarco. Is the gallon of water a day a real thing or just a myth? Ah, you know what? This is this is one of those ones. Uh, remember when we talked the other day and we kind of went on a rant about,

uh, like old just kind of wisdom or good advice that, that, you know, the science nerds come out to dispel and talk shit about. This is one of those examples for me also. It's like, I think one of the best pieces of advice that I gave to clients was just the generic prescription of, try and get about a gallon of water every day. And the truth is, no, most people don't quite need that much.

And the exact ratio per pound of body weight and muscle, and how you exercise varies per person. And we can go down the rabbit hole of unpacking how overstated that statement can be. But what I have found from training clients for so many years is a majority people just don't drink enough water. They drink sodas and other forms of liquid and just could, the advice of getting them

to drink more water, I think is overall a general very good advice. Yeah, I think that was the main thing, is that we all recognized how little our clients would consume water and how dehydration was pretty much a common occurrence for a lot of people because they would, even in their workouts if they're profusively sweating

or, you know, and they're not rehydrating and they're not really planning ahead of time with their hydration, you know, can definitely get away from it. And even ourselves, have you guys ever, I mean, I do remember the first time that you were like, oh, let me track my hydration, you know, can definitely get away from it. And even ourselves, have you guys ever, I mean, I do remember the first time that you're like, oh, let me track my water, you know, because that's another one of those areas I think that everybody thinks they get plenty of.

Well, I remember when you're going through your first competing, like competing in your first show, that was the main thing, like point you brought up, I was like, I can't believe how much water I can consume and you should be consuming. It just goes right through and right to myself. Yeah, it's general advice, right? It's not specific, because if you get real specific, of course, it's going to be different

from person to person. And some people, it's actually dangerous to recommend that much water, right? Some people with certain kidney issues and heart issues, they might drink too much water or might actually cause problems. But for most people, the reason why you'll hear that piece of advice is because if you are drinking a gallon of water a day, you're not drinking soda, you're not drinking juice, you're probably not eating as much because what tends to happen is that we sometimes we eat out of compulsion and instead of eating

out of compulsion, now we're drinking also dehydration or lack of water can cause us to want to eat more. Here's some of the effects that I've noticed from making sure that clients drink a lot of water. One of the biggest ones is skin. People notice improvements in their skin, especially my female clients. They'll tell the day after. And join pain.

And start trying to get that much water. Yeah, I've absolutely. Yeah. Join pain is another one. I mean, one of the ways that you could, you could kind of gauge your own water and take, if you want to be a little bit more specific is by the color of your urine. A light yellow is what you're aiming for. If it's clear, if it's like,

if it's like, if you're, yeah. If you're peeing water, then if it's clear like water, then you're probably drinking too much. And if it's really dark yellow or really, really strong yellow, then you're not drinking enough. So you want it to be kind of a light yellow. But I think this is, this is general good advice. It's just, you can definitely pick it apart, you know, when you when you go down to the specifics, but I in my experience, I think like you Adam, I've only ever had positive

positive reactions from clients who I've encouraged to drink this much water because what they end up doing is they'll get their gallon of water or whatever and they'll put it in one container and then they'll monitor it throughout the day. So they'll take it with them throughout the day and it's just, it's structure things, it puts things in good structure and people who end up doing that, my clients who do that, almost every single one of them comes back and says besides, you know, the fact that they go keep more. You get a key more. Yeah.

Yeah. Which, hey, here's a side effect of that. Your steps go up. Well, that's the other way. So, well, we speak to behavior all the time. And I think that this is another one of those areas where I see positive behavioral changes when I tell people that advice too. It's not just the science that supports,

we should be drinking more water for dehydration. Forget all that. Just, it creates good habits and behavior for a lot of clients that I've told, hey, target a gallon. And I don't know if that's because it is. They're so focused on trying to get their gallon. They're in a mind's not thinking about

going over and grabbing snacks. Or I don't know if it's because they're drinking more water than they were drink before and now they're peeing every 30 minutes to an hour or two. I mean, it's probably a combination of all those things, but at the end of the day, I think it's generally good advice, and I can't stand when I see the science community

that tries to shit on tips like that because it reminds me again of the, hey, when people used to say, don't eat past six or seven p.m. and then we come out and we argue the science because we know that if you eat a thousand calories, just spread out through the day, or all beyond seven or before seven,

it's not any different for us from your metabolism, but as far as good habits, it is a big difference because the people tend to make bad choices after seven PM at night. And same thing, if you're not focused on drinking that gallon of water all day long, you tend to make other choices besides drinking the water. What a great, what a phenomenal example you just gave Adam. That's such a great example because it's 100% true, right? Like, you know, don't eat after 7 p.m. Not because food magically turns into body fat after 7 p.m. but because after 7 p.m. you tend to eat foods that are, you know, bad choices.

And if you're drinking a gallon of water every day, you're probably, this is the big one for me, you're probably not drinking other stuff. I mean, I've actually had, I can't tell you how many clients I've had who, yeah, I can't tell you how many clients I've had who've told me that they don't like the taste of water. I used to, the first time I heard that, I remember, I was like, I was water. I used to, the first time I heard that, I remember it was like, I was like, have you guys heard that? I've heard that too, yeah.

They have to have flavor. Oh, it's crazy. I remember the first time I heard it. I think it was like a year into personal training and it blew my mind and then I kept hearing it. People like, well, it doesn't taste good. I need to have something in it. And then I realized most people drink half of their fluids

come from something that has flavor, whether it's a soda, a tea, a crystal light juice, something like that. So if you're drinking a gallon of just water, you're eliminating that. And that's a behavioral change. So 100%, I agree with you Adam. I don't think, sure, if we break down the science,

probably not, but if you follow, if you were to take a group of people, let me put it this way, if you were to take, you know, 100 people and divide them into two and one side, we don't tell them to drink a gallon of water a day and the other side we do, at the end of that, you're going to find just better behaviors with the group that drinks, the gallon of water because it encourages that. So that's really what it all boils down to. So, do you necessarily need a gallon of water every single day? No, probably not. Some people need far less, some people need more. But at the end of the day, when you promote that and encourage that and do that yourself

It's an easy way to to positively influence your behaviors which will influence your body fat percentage and your health in the long term Next question is from Maritza 3212 Are keeping pull ups a good substitute if I can only do one or two strict pull ups. You think this question? Yeah, man, you know why there was actually like a recent interview and article with great glassman actually like renouncing like if he had to go back and sort of create, recreate CrossFit, he would have eliminated the Kipping Pullup. But I mean his argument for it was kind of weak. It was like, he was saying that it would naturally occur

after you get really good at pullups, and you're trying to do more of them. You'd naturally kind of get this sort of Kipping momentum as you went to keep going, trying to get more reps. But for the most part, I mean, it's been proven. It's very harsh in shearing, the shearing force is alone that you're putting on your shoulders, very damaging.

Yeah, okay, so I can't even believe people still do these. So, tipping pull ups have value for gymnasts. That's it. Yeah, gymnasts need to learn how to do this. And so it's not, the exercise itself, if it's done with perfect form, good stability, good control, just like any other exercise, it's probably safe. But here's the thing. A keeping pull-up requires more skill to do safely than a regular pull-up does. So it makes

zero sense that you would teach a keeping pull-up to somebody who can't do 10 really good strict pull-ups. It makes no sense. You need to have the strength and the stability to be able to do regular pull ups first. Then you need to have good shoulder mobility, you have to have good techniques, you have to have all those prerequisites before you mess around with this ballistic swinging style pull up that, you know, crossfit popularize for some reason. Other than that has no value, has several values, and it's not a great way to get better at pull-ups. No, I can list five other better ways here. Let's try this. Well, I was just thinking about this. You know what Doug, just to take this, I don't know why,

I don't think we've actually done this. I think maybe because we think it's so basic, but if we get questions like this still, there's something we should address on the YouTube channel. Because I think one of the best things that you can do is someone who can't do a full pull-up, it was just helping a client with this the other day, is you just take a band and wrap it around the pull-up bar and then put your knee, one of your knees in it. And whatever, however difficult five pull-ups is for you,

would be, you would base that off on how much, how strength, how much strength, how strong of a rubber band you use to assist you. Well, you can even do, and like, totally simulate a, you know, one of those Gravitron versions where you could, you could take the band and then string it across where, you know, the hooks are for the bar.

And so that way, too, you could stand on top of it and get that assisted help. So there's other ways to do it to be able to kind of get you to grade up to that where you could do it without any sort of assist. But that's how I like to have people do it. I'll hook the band where the hooks are for the barbell. I've actually never done that, but that's a good idea.

Yeah. Yeah, that's a good idea. Yeah, it's an easier way to do it if they have those available. If you're looking for good bands, by the way, rubber bandets, one of the best brands of bands that we've... And we have them available on our website to very high quality bands. So that's one of the best ways to do it. Here's another thing you could do. You could practice body rows.

And so body rows. And so body rows are where you pull your body to the bar, except you're kind of laying underneath it, so you're more horizontal. And then finally, this is an easy practice. It's one of the most effective ways I've ever had somebody improve their strength at doing pull-ups. If you can only do one or two pull-ups,

do one pull-up four or five times a day, you know, every day. Every day, you know, walk by a pull-up bar, do one pull-up, and then, you know, do it again in a couple hours. And that constant frequency, well, first off, instead of just doing one pull-up, now you're doing four or five, you're just spreading it out throughout the day. But the strength gains that come from doing that are incredible. You noticed in a couple weeks, if you stay true to that and you actually make the effort to do five single pull ups, if you can only do one pull up, let's say, and you make the effort to do five single pull ups every single day, in two weeks, you'll see a huge improvement. Huge.

Oh, huge. You should get it. On average, I've seen clients add two or three pull ups to their strength within within a couple of weeks from doing that. And then look, considering the circumstances, the current circumstances. Perfect. Perfect. Perfect. Perfect. Yeah, you got a pull-up bar you could put in your doorway and you're at home, you're not doing shit anyway. Walk by the pull-up bar, do one pull-up, and then go about your day, and then maybe an hour or two later, do it again. You know, do that three or four times and watch what happens, but a keeping pull up?

Terrible. Terrible, terrible way to do that. Just seeing that question, I was like, oh, we need to bring this up. I need to evangelize and save all the remaining cross-fitters on that. Yeah. Next question is from Taylor Kinkle.

What are your thoughts on combining a therapy practice with personal training? So are they, now I'm assuming they're referring to therapy therapy, like talk therapy? Yeah. Oh, talk therapy or physical therapy? No, no, no, more, like mental therapy. So are they actually a therapist?

I think so. I mean, if you're actually a therapist, I think that's, well, let's be honest, we've talked about this not. I think it's a great combo. I think the majority of our job is that. Yeah. I mean, huge.

I would be, that's such a, gosh, if you had a studio or a gym and you were a personal trainer, here's this. If you're a trainer, one of the most effective things you could do to make yourself just really, really good at your job is to have people that you're connected to that can augment what you do.

So for example, you have like a chiropractor a massage therapist, you know, friends, people that you trust, right? People that do a good job. And another person would be a therapist. You know, 80% of someone's fitness success is mental and psychological, especially when somebody comes in nutrition, when it comes in nutrition, I mean, it's almost all, you know, psychological. So, and I've done this before, I've worked with clients who've worked with

therapists, and then what I do with the therapists is I then work with the therapist. So, so I'll give you a great example of how, how this provided me with a lot of value with therapists, and then what I do with the therapists is I then work with the therapist. So I'll give you a great example of how this provided me with a lot of value. So I had one client, it was a great example. I had one client who, you know, she had a lot of body image issues, and so we're working out in the gym, and she went and sought out help from a therapist.

This was the first time I'd ever worked with a therapist with a client. And anytime one of my clients would see someone else, if they informed me of it because she told me this, I said, you know, I would always ask if I could contact them so that I could talk to them about, you know, what would be appropriate and inappropriate in terms of my training. So I want to make sure that we work together rather than against each other. So I called this therapist and I said, hey, I'm working with so and so.

I'm her trainer. And she let me know that she's working with you. Is there anything that you think I should look out for whatever? And she said, yeah, she said, you know, don't refer to sculpting or shaping the body or anything that has to do with how her body looks. If you could just just focus on function, that would be great because real strong trigger for her is, you know, getting approval for how she looks. So, and it was, and it was so phenomenal. It was great to work with the therapist. So then I could change how I communicated fitness to this client, and it became so effective. So, gosh, if you could combine the two, that was such a, I almost can't think of a better combination quite on it.

I mean, I even had an example of just, I had somebody that was morbidly obese that had a therapist in conjunction with training with me and it was so nice to work with because it was, it was addressing a lot of like the root issues of what really, you know, the habits and behaviors that were resulting in that direction, that I could then avoid certain things like that, like you mentioned triggers and things to then work with them with their nutrition, but also like

more, keep them coming back to the gym and keep slowly kind of progressing them appropriately. Well, I attribute most of my early success as a trainer to this side. I think that, and I didn't know this is me looking back now, but I mean, I was in lots of counseling growing up with the childhood that I had. So we had a ton of therapy and counseling, one on one, both family.

And I think a lot of the skills on communicating that I learned from the therapist talking to me or talking to my parents or talking to my siblings are the tools that I had when I first started. Because I wasn't a great trainer. I didn't have a ton of national certifications. I didn't have a lot of experience. I didn't finish my kines degree. So I didn't, I don't think by any means was that my strength or what carried a lot of my success.

For sure, it was my ability to communicate and help people on the therapeutic side more than I think the actual fitness and nutrition side. So I don't know, I think without it, I wouldn't be where I'm at today. And so like you said, so I don't think I could think of a better practice to potentially partner with to accelerate your fitness training growth.

Well, I'll tell you what, if you were to examine a trainer and through the years, obviously, as they become more experienced, they become better and better and better at helping people achieve permanent success. Now, where is that coming from? Is it because the trainer is learning a ton more about exercise or is it because the trainer is learning a ton more about their ability to communicate this side of it. Now, if you're a trainer, of course, stay in your lane,

I'm not staying in your therapist, but it's your ability to communicate with your client, which is more on this side than it is on the personal training side. I would say 10 years later as a trainer, I definitely knew more about exercise, but most of my value that I was bringing 10 years later, a lot of it came from the experience of had to communicate To my clients and how to work them through some of these issues. So therapy

What a great combination with personal training in fact when I had my personal training studio That was someone I was constantly looking for to work in my studio I never was able to find anybody, unfortunately, who would rent space in my studio, but that was always number one. I was like, okay, if I could find a good therapist who specializes in working with nutrition, eating disorders, body image issues, that kind of stuff,

oh my God, that would be so valuable. So. Next question is from Kuchina, Carolina. You guys have discussed the importance of mobility work But what should you do if your lifts are affected by hyper mobility? So hyper mobility refers to It's like your hyper flexible and you lack stability, okay? So someone might read the term hyper mobility and think that's a good thing like oh, you're super mobile

No, okay, so when we use the term hypermobility and think that's a good thing. Like, oh, you're super mobile. No, okay. So when we use the term mobility, we're referring to your ability to move through a full-range emotion with strength, control, and stability. Your ability to move through a wide-range emotion without strength, control, and stability. It's problematic. That's like a baby, right? So if you take a baby, you know, you could, a baby can, they can, you know, put their foot next to their head, you can do all kinds of stuff with the baby. They're super, super flexible, but they're not stable,

which, which, that's why a baby doesn't look like it, they would hurt themselves, right? So, so what's, how do you, how do you work around that? Okay, believe it or not, you actually have to shorten your range of motion. So when I train people who, and this is not very common, by the way, it's usually opposite. Usually when you work with most people, they're tight, but I've had a few clients that were hyper-mobile, and what you do is, so let's say the average client, I'm trying to push ranges of motion, trying to get better mobility. With someone with hyper-mobility, I'm having them squat to parallel. I'm having them shoulder press, stop before full range of motion, hold that tension,

slow the reps down. I'm trying to create strength within short ranges of motion. Once they have that strength in that short range of motion, then I lengthen it a little bit and then I build strength there. Then I lengthen it a little bit and then I build strength there And then I lengthen it again and I build strength there So I'm what I'm trying to do is I'm trying to add strength to their full range of motion But I'm doing it incrementally. I hope that makes sense. Yeah, no that definitely does I've had clients to like word dancers or like a cheerleader who had like real hypermobility and

or like a cheerleader who had like real hypermobility and just getting the control was everything. And so to then really massive manipulate the tempo was really a helpful tool to go through like lunges or squats or you know anything overhead press, but I'm doing it with a very slow tempo, especially on the eccentric and control, and then also stopping and having them hold isometric poses. Isometric, which makes your future. That was a big part of the protocol for the majority of these workouts was a lot of isometric, very specific angles that I felt like,

we're trying to get that natural strength curve to then respond and then to really gain access to that and stabilize the entire body. So also like having, you know, that split stance was something I worked with a lot to, you know, then add load to and be able to hold and sustain positions. Well, I don't know which one of you picked this question,

but definitely with what we've been talking about with maps anywhere, to me, this is an incredible program for a person like this. Yeah. Because of the isometric component, the stability component, the laying a good, strong stable foundation with body weight movement type exercises first. It's much safer for you to do it there and build good strength to set you up to then load bars

later on. So I think a really good place for somebody that has like this crazy dexterity like that or flexibility and mobility, but they lap the actual strength through the four range of motion maps anywhere as a phenomenal program for that. Oh, totally. And you see this is more common in females. You see this in women more often. And typically the way this presents itself is you have a girl who's really flexible and

she has a really strong anterior pelvic tilt, causes low back pain. And so, you know, they're like, oh, I got to stretch more. Like, don't stretch. That's the last thing you want to do is static stretching. What you want to do is get your body into good positions that feel good and then create tension in them. That's what we're talking about. It's creating that tension in each position. So think about connecting through your range of motion by flexing the muscle. And here's how you know you have hypermobility issues besides the fact that maybe you have some pain. You have trouble connecting. So you'll get into a position and you'll see, like again, I train people like this,

they'll do a squat and it's like they'll fit in a squat and it's just like their joints are supporting them. They're not their muscle. Slow everything, way that held down, normally we recommend people do, you know, anywhere between three to four seconds on a negative. I'll take somebody with hypermobility and I'll have them do 10, 15 seconds, negative. Like you are going slow. We are going to go light.

We're going to connect to this entire range of motion. And then here's the, and then build muscle. Of course, as you build muscle and strength, you'll find that you're going to thought you're going to be far more far more stable. You're not going to have as much pain in those areas. And it's way down the road that you're actually going to train in really full-range as a motion. And I want to make a point of this because we communicate so often about training in full-range as a motion. And that's because hypermobility is rare. So we're talking to the general population.

But if you have hypermobility, you don't train in your full range of motion. Your full range of motion is dangerous. You're not trying to squat as far as you can and do your flies as deep as you can. Because you're so mobile, you're going to hurt your shoulders or your hips or your knees. You need to train in a shortened range of motion. Just one of the few times you'll hear me say that, you need to train in a shortened range of motion and your reps build that tension. Once you feel comfortable with that new strength, then you can test it a little further. But don't test your your full range of motion. That's way down the line when you build lots of strength And stability. Oh, I can hear it right now though. There's a lot of people probably going like am I hyper mobile then and I think the answer is if you don't know

You are you're probably not yeah, if you're if you're like Lucy See gumbee, you know if you're those people that can sit on the floor, you know on the floor You know with that runner with that called herdler stretch, you know, with that runner, what's that called, herdler stretch, you know, or you just sit in a squat, like, you know, Lucy Goosey, if you kind of, it's typically somebody who's weak and hyper flexible. So like, you can totally touch your toes, like no problem, you can sit, like I said, herdler stretch. If you find yourself most comfortable in these weird, awkward positions on the floor, again, this is more common for females.

And you don't have a lot of strength, then that's probably you. Other than that, it's not super common. Dancers, you find this sometimes in dancers, although I will say that certain dancers are really strong. They're a lot of dancers are strong through that range of motion because-mobility. Yeah, they're strong. There are a lot of dancers are strong through that range of motion, because they've been doing the dance. I was gonna say, exactly.

You know what I've seen this too? Sometimes people who do a lot of yoga, but they don't maintain tension in the yoga poses. They do like these long stretches. That's right. But to be honest with you, most of the times I've been this, this is people who just, they're just like that, they're just born that way. They don't even work out, they just come higher me, and I do an assessment with them, and I'm like, holy cow, you're like ridiculously flexible. So we have some hyper mobility issues, we're just lacking strengths. And with that, make sure you go to mind pump free.com, download some of our guides, books, and resources.

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