Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1263: Ways Building Muscle Speeds up Your Metabolism, How to Spot a Good vs. a Crappy At-home Workout, Healthy Alternatives to Unhealthy Foods & More

Starting point is 00:00:00 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one placeA episode. This is where we answer fitness questions asked by our listeners, but the way we open the episode, typically is with a 35 to 45 minute intro where we talk about current events. We catch up with each other. We mention our sponsors. So here's what went down in today's episode of Mind Pump. We start out by talking about

Starting point is 00:00:42 despicable movie rentals from back in the day, girls gone wild and bum fights and how that guy made millions of dollars and decrypts to that bot those videos. I'm sure of gross dudes out there. Then I talked about how Bay Area alcohol consumption has increased by 42% makes a lot of sense. You guys are stuck at home, you're sad and you want. I'm drinking right now.

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Starting point is 00:03:41 We talked about government stimulus money and what that may mean. We speculate on what everybody's hair is going to look like when this is all over, probably a lot less blondes. A lot like a tiger king. Yeah, it's going to be funny. We talked about a spouse questionnaire we did with our girlfriends and wives and how Adam lied on his. I talked about Justin's first, excuse me, Jessica's that Justin's Jessica's first trimester. Wow, sorry. I didn't know I was pregnant. Sorry bro. Jessica's first trimester. Wow, sorry. I didn't know it was pregnant.

Starting point is 00:04:06 Sorry bro. Jessica's first trimester in how she's a little nauseous, having a tough time. We talk about how Italy may be flattening the curve. Yes. And we give an update on homeschooling. So that's the first 42 minutes of the episode. Then we get into answering the fitness questions.

Starting point is 00:04:20 Here's the first one. This person says, look, you guys have talked about how the more muscle you have, the faster metabolism can be like, how does this work? How does this all work out? How does your metabolism get faster when you have more muscle? The next question, this person says, how can you tell the difference between a good at home workout program and a bad one? There's a few things you can look out for that will tell you if you're at home workout program is just terrible. And of course, we talk about our maps,

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Starting point is 00:06:59 He's over there. Speaking of jazz, did you guys know that they did an analysis of Cardi B's music and they found that it was a combination of jazz and funk? So they call it junk junk Good dad Joe. Did you see the barstools of that? It was like a little Infant kid like watching a Cardi B video. Oh It was fantastic. It was just like like this eyes are this big and just like watching all the booties. Bro, barstool, barstool's traffic has to be like

Starting point is 00:07:29 through the roof. They're just pumping it out. They get all the best stuff. You want to escape? Did you see they, they had a documentary on him that just got released? Oh, on the dude that started it. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of people watch that. People talk. It's like, I feel like he's a, he's a hated. They're like, they're like, uh, yeah, past. It's a quarantine of people talk shit. I feel like he's a hated They're like they're like yeah past it's a quarantine's bad, but it's not that bad Where I'm gonna watch somebody who made a business off and just reposing other people shit

Starting point is 00:07:54 Goring do you guys remember that what's the guy's name? He made millions of dollars, but he was so hated that it ruined him He was girls gone wild. Yeah, that dude. Was it? Yeah. I knew it. He made girls gone wild videos.

Starting point is 00:08:10 My friend ordered it. For the younger listeners, these were videos you could order. And it was like, it was like Mardi Gras parties or spring break. And then they'd come out with cameras. And they'd be like, flash us your boobs. And the girls would do it. And then they sold these videos.

Starting point is 00:08:24 Yeah, they'd bring them back into like a, one of those RVs. Yeah. Terrible. I got an idea. And they'd sign, they would sign like release, you know, waivers even though they were like smashed or whatever.

Starting point is 00:08:35 My old partner's and I hired that crew. Well, okay, here we go. I'm in for a story. Wow. Wait a minute, you hired? Yes. The girls go, my old guys. It was actually right after like his,

Starting point is 00:08:44 my, sort of guys. What are you trying to do? My old partner. Guys gone wild. No. Guys. You didn't need to truck guys for this. We just let it out.

Starting point is 00:08:53 I think it's just, it just, it happens to be random that that's what they did. They had a connection with my old partner in somebody say, balls in the marijuana business. Nobody plays that. And he knew them, he knew them personally. And of course, he had like a big lawsuit and stuff that happened after all that, right?

Starting point is 00:09:11 He made his millions and then he had a big loss. Yeah, because it was like some, I think I had to do with some girl saying she was too drunk to sign it. Yeah. She was underrated. Yeah, he had a bunch of shit that he went through. I mean, he still was filthy rich,

Starting point is 00:09:22 but then obviously he didn't have a lot of work after that. And my partners at the time knew him, they were friends, and we hired their whole crew to come shoot a marijuana video for us. That- What's a marijuana video? Like a music video? No, another music video. Like a, it was, so this was, this was what he did.

Starting point is 00:09:43 This was his brilliant idea that this was a, I don't know, I think we sunk like $100,000 into this thing and it never went anywhere. And the idea was, we were, remember, we were, there was only two medical marijuana facilities in the Bay Area before us, right? So we were one of the original, right? And, you know, back then it it was very, very gray and edgy

Starting point is 00:10:06 and scary to be a part of it. And my partners were really trying to push the envelope and do different, we were the first ones to do. Trailblazers. Yeah, right. Literally, right. Innovators. Just blazers.

Starting point is 00:10:21 Yeah, hold the trail. Just blazers. Just blazers. We were the first to open up like a vape lounge and he was trying to, so he spent all this money on making this like hype video. So he went and pitched it to all these networks in LA trying to get them to pick up a documentary. So there's a, there's like a super highly produced video. I'm in it, it's of course, right?

Starting point is 00:10:48 I'm working the place. But, and it was kind of a cool video, but it- The hype weed? Yeah, well hype up. You don't really need to hype it up. You don't need to, like, the underground business. Yeah, it was, the idea was to sell a network, which that shows there's a ton of them now.

Starting point is 00:11:03 This was before any of it. So none of this existed. Like a reality documentary. Yeah, a reality documentary of starting a cannabis club. That makes sense. And so they shot all the soul of the device. Right. That was the idea. He was, I think he was just ahead of his time. Yeah. And they, at the time that we were trying to do it, so many people involved. He really was blackballed in the industry because of it, because the people that were in it at that time were really trying to push it to legitimize it. Oh, and did he like emphasize on the money exercise? Yeah, yeah, I mean, rolling up in his S63

Starting point is 00:11:36 and just balling out party in VIP limo stuff. Like, you know, it was- My thing is butt with dollars. Not quite. This is toilet paper. Yeah, not quite that bad. But I mean, enough that I think a lot of these networks were like, yeah, that's gonna be a pass for me.

Starting point is 00:11:53 It's not too racey. Yeah, it's gonna be a pass. But I mean, you're gonna be- It's gonna be a pass for me, dog. Yeah, you're gonna be a pass. Years later though, we saw a bunch come out, but that's what you bring up that name. And I'm like, oh my god, so we're-

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Starting point is 00:12:39 on the Amazon. Yeah, if you buy those videos, you're an asshole too, just as much as he is for making it. Like, remember, this was a terrible, I remember this one. This one actually made the same, another dude, maybe it's the same guy, I don't know, a lot of money. And it's worse, I, my opinion, than the girls gone,

Starting point is 00:12:54 wild videos. Do you guys remember bump fights? Yes. Oh man. That was huge. It was huge. Yeah, that was huge. It was terrible.

Starting point is 00:13:02 There was a camera crew and a producer that would go around to homeless people and he would give them. And I only laugh because the idea is so insane and terrible that you can't even believe it existed. It's like so immoral. He would go up to the wall. With, though, you had to admit a little bit of brilliance.

Starting point is 00:13:19 Whoa, yeah, I mean, it's- People, I bet you did. Yeah, that's like, we're gonna watch it. I so, someone's gotta say it. Someone's gotta say it, come on. I mean, it's terrible. It is terrible, but it's brilliant at the same time. I mean, you think you, you, you, obviously he knew people would buy it. Yeah. And well, and, and you knew that a lot of the

Starting point is 00:13:31 Bums would do it for sure to get a hundred bucks. You know, I'm saying like, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, saying? Like, I would get, it was more, if I was bumping it up, it was more like five bucks. No, it wasn't, it was, some of them were. No, it wasn't, no, it wasn't. It was good money. It wasn't good money. No, it wasn't like, may weather money.

Starting point is 00:13:55 You know what I'm saying? You would say stuff like pull your teeth out, you know, pull your two, your two front teeth out, I'll give you a, you know, 50 bucks. Yeah, it went crazy far, but it originally was, you know, they would approach and both would consent agree to it There would be there would be eventually a win a winning sometimes. Yeah, there's a lot of people I know I know that mentally ill is a majority of yeah of of people that are home. It just feels bad

Starting point is 00:14:18 Totally taking advantage of it. Doesn't it feel bad like watching like oh, yeah, it's terrible This makes me feel bad. There's a lot of businesses like, like I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't do it, but you can't. Just slimy as stuff. But somebody's going to, some dude made millions of dollars. Yeah, off of doing that. And then I don't know, I don't know what happened to him

Starting point is 00:14:35 after that, but he made a lot of money, you know, doing that and. Like here's an example, there's always these opportunities, right? And I think that, it's just a reflection of society. Right. And we just, I mean, before we got on the mics, we were talking about the integrity that we have

Starting point is 00:14:49 as owners and a business and stuff. And, you know, I even think about like, you know, I knew that I should have bought all kinds of stock and alcohol before all this happened. Anytime something like a pandemic like this happens or a world scare like alcohol and cigarettes go through the roots. Well, let's take it as, of course.

Starting point is 00:15:05 Let's go back a little bit. I remember in before 2008, before the big financial crash, I had friends that were getting into the loan business, and they would tell me like how crazy it was. It's like, yeah dude, you don't need to check anything. Just have them tell you how much they make. Yeah, I get in people's lungs.

Starting point is 00:15:24 Oh, and just pump, I knew guys that, I knew guys that worked under me for short periods of time or worked at 24-offitness who, they were sleazeballs. Let's be honest, one dude I know who worked for me for a short period of time and then we kind of got rid of them because he was, you know, he was a good salesperson but he was just a slimy, just a sleazeball. You know, you wouldn't trust the guy.

Starting point is 00:15:45 Anyway, he gets in the home loan business. This guy's making three quarters of a million dollars just slinging loans, and it was just, and I remember they would call, maybe, sell, you make so much money, do you come on, and they, it doesn't feel right, you know what I mean? It doesn't feel right. Too many red flags.

Starting point is 00:16:01 There's a lot of opportunities like that, that tend to pop off. Yeah, no, I mean, again, I knew, I knew to buy those, would have been to buy the stock and I just couldn't get myself to do it knowing that, you know, profiting off of other people going out there and drinking themselves to death right now, which you saw that right,

Starting point is 00:16:14 I think it was you who shared. Oh, dude, alcohol consumption in the Bay Area, since the shelter and place kicked in, went up 40, I think 42%. That's huge. No, it makes sense. Of course it does. It makes sense, dude, went up 40, I think 42%. That makes sense. Of course it does. It makes sense dude, you're stressed,

Starting point is 00:16:28 you're anxious, you're at home, and you're like, I just want to chill for a bit, and alcohol is a very short term solution for that, but I get it, I get it dude, I find myself wanting, I don't just get bored. Drinking is like something to do for some people. No, dude, I don't have a problem with though, is pitching those people on Z-biotic.

Starting point is 00:16:46 Well, hey, that's right. Because if you're gonna say, hey, if you're gonna go drink, that's right, if you do all this, it may as well feel better. Hey, if you're gonna do this, we recommend you don't, but if you're going to, you know, no judgment here,

Starting point is 00:16:56 take this, you know, product that'll help you not feel like dog shit. Like the condom for a hangover. Uh, the one. Yeah, I just came up with that. I hope great. You know what? You know these get sent over to our partners.

Starting point is 00:17:07 I'm gonna have a phone call in the fucking two weeks. Like Z-Buyer's like, yeah, we'd really appreciate it. I really appreciate it. Reference our brand is the condom of freaking drinking. Time those two together. Yeah, that's a lot. That's not the way we want to be represented. Yeah, we don't recommend sex with strangers.

Starting point is 00:17:22 However, it is partying. No, you know what though? I wonder actually if their sales are blowing up. I would imagine because it's a how the horse is ebiotics. No, they are. I'm seeing I'm seeing all kind. I mean, I talked to the partners on a regular basis. Because it's an at home, it delivers to your house. You have to drive somewhere. And you're drinking. And you're drinking more. And for sure, you feel like, because here's what happens with alcohol, you drink because you feel bad. So you temporarily feel better. And then the next day, you feel like because here's what happens with alcohol you drink because you feel bad So you temporarily feel better and then the next day you feel worse

Starting point is 00:17:49 Then you did that day because of the toxic effects of alcohol and so product like zybotics will my helps You know, so I would imagine that they're there say by the way one of my predictions with z with the product like zybotics was I wonder if it's gonna for some people encourage more because're like, oh, I feel okay now I can push more. Off more out. That's what, you know, everybody, that's a, that's a human nature for us. And my buddy, you know, when who we had on the show recently, he's got already a bunch of his athletes that are, oh, the athletes are home. That's what they're doing.

Starting point is 00:18:17 All the sports. Working out, drinking. That's what they're all doing. Dude, when he tested it, what did he say to you? Cause we unbelievable. You saw his post. Didn't you see his post just the other day? No. Are you not, I may not be following him. I don't know if he did. He did. say to you? Cause we unbelievable. You saw his post, didn't you see his post just the other day? No.

Starting point is 00:18:25 Are you not, are you not be following him? I don't know if you're following him. Yeah, he did. He posted all about it. Yeah, yeah. So he's already, he already bought a bunch of cases himself. He's already turned some of the athletes on it. And he doesn't have like a couple drinks.

Starting point is 00:18:34 No, no, no, he's a drinker. He went hard. Oh yeah, yeah, no, he, I mean, that's like 90% of his job is networking with these athletes and taking them to Vegas and party and like, so. That's why it was like, it was so serendipitous. The timing that he came in was right when we were like really kicking off the antibiotic. And so to be able to introduce him to that was awesome.

Starting point is 00:18:52 Because I know he's for sure of all of my friends. I'm like, dude, this somebody who's going to be able to take this and like really know because he drinks a lot of stuff. It's part of his business. Yes. He's constantly out there entertaining, you know, he loves it. He loves it. Now, here's one that I don't know if I wonder if the sales

Starting point is 00:19:11 are up or down or the same is cannabis. Because I know the home delivery stuff is still. It's up like crazy. Is it? Yeah. So I can't even get good weed right now. So we, I had Doug, a stock. I had Doug order for me before we went up to Tahoe and

Starting point is 00:19:27 uh, tried ordering through Doug's. There's called me to meet with me on tax. Yeah. Yeah. Why do you have Doug order it? Well, no good. Edibles. He was still here. He was still here in San Jose. I was up in Tahoe. I didn't have anything. I didn't bring my stash or anything. So I hadn't had had anything to smoke for. I remember we were podcasting. I brought that up. I hadn't smoked Justin Solmianc, that I had an edible. Yeah. And so I called Doug, I said, hey before you come up, I said,

Starting point is 00:19:49 could you order off of ease and get me some weed? And he's like, well, what do you want? I'm like, I just took a picture real quick, screenshot it and circled, you know, just give me what's available. And he's like, well, this is all they have. And I said, okay. What was it, Schwag?

Starting point is 00:20:01 No, it wasn't so much, it was bad, even though I do want to comment on how shitty Club Wee does these days. The, it was a pure CBD strain. Oh, they didn't have like a regular T-shirt. Yeah, sold out. That's probably better for you anyway. Yeah, sure.

Starting point is 00:20:15 Yeah, they're not for it. Well, and I finally got something the other day and it's still like, so club stuff is terrible. So my consumption of cannabis way down because it makes me, my tendency towards paranoia is I, I could imagine you did that. We're already over the top paranoia. You don't wanna add fuel to that, fine. I told you guys what I did.

Starting point is 00:20:33 I did it. I did it was like a week or two ago when I was, you know, self-quarantine myself and I was feeling okay. You know, I wasn't really sick anymore, but I was still just being precaucious. So I wasn't going around to anyone. I had a vape pan and old one. And I'm like, oh, you know what? You know, I'm't really sick anymore, but I was still just being precaucious, so I wasn't going around to anyone. I had a vape pan and old one, and I'm like,

Starting point is 00:20:47 oh, you know what, you know, I'm feeling a little stressed. Maybe this will help. It was the opposite, dude. I hit that immediately. As soon as it kicked in, I'm like paranoid, and of course this is a paranoid situation. I'm reading articles, I'm sitting there, and thinking about, oh my God, my parents,

Starting point is 00:21:02 what if they die? What about my kids? Ah, and I'm sitting there watching. about oh my god my parents what if they die what about my kids? Ah, and I'm sitting there watching We can we share with the audience would have would have paranoid emotional rollercoaster you've been for us for the like last one Oh the most is my weakness. Hey, hey one day he comes in. It's a conspiracy the next day comes in It's bullshit. Oh my god. We're all gonna die. It's like don't see anybody a cure for all these things You guys in the next day. Oh my god. we're all gonna die. It's like, don't see anybody. I'm kind of a cure for all these things. Look guys, then the next day, oh my God, there's the apocalypse.

Starting point is 00:21:27 I can't. Because I'm always in my head, right? I can't keep up with you. In fact, the dog and Justin and I, we created our own thread that doesn't even do the sourdying, but we're just like, listen, when we're, my pump without sourdying, how are we gonna deal with this?

Starting point is 00:21:40 Yeah, it's, because I'm in my head. I'm already in my head. So we give them a valley. I think a lot, and then on top of it, you know, I don't like like I you know I'm about a little bit of a hyper contract anyway So it's like the worst situation, but I'll sit in there Paranoid is shit watching TV with Jessica Jessica looks and she's like what's wrong? Yeah, I'm like I'm really paranoid right now She's like oh fuck. I knew it was a bad idea. So I know you being the paranoid guy

Starting point is 00:22:03 I know you have to be doing a lot of different woo-woo shit. So give me the list of things that you're doing right now that's woo-woo. So do you try and be a... You're still grounding. No, no, no, no. So here's the thing, okay. I might get myself to the point where I'm anxious

Starting point is 00:22:20 and paranoid, but I'm not doing stupid shit. What I try to do is stick to the data because if I allow my emotions to run free, then you're right, it's going to get weird. So I'll be doing coffee animas and weird shit. So I'm just sticking to it. All I'm doing, I'm sticking to the stuff that I know is legit. So I'm exercising, I'm doing my meditation prayer.

Starting point is 00:22:44 That's really good for stress. I'm going for daily walks. I'm exercising, I'm doing my meditation prayer. That's really good for stress. I'm going for daily walks. I'm making sure I get really good sleep, trying to eat healthy, although that's much more difficult. Now, actually, I haven't bought a full bag of potato chips in a long time, and I bought two the other day. I had two big ass bags a week. These things are sneaking their way back in.

Starting point is 00:23:01 Oh, it's stupid, stupid. I ate a whole bag the other day, I'm up to my dome by myself. Not doing any woo woo stuff. No, well, no, so here's what I'm doing. Here's my it's stupid. I ain't holding back the other day, but I'm too much dome by myself. Not doing any woo-woo stuff. No, well, no, so here's what I'm doing. Here's my routine, right? I don't believe you. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

Starting point is 00:23:11 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, and then I've been more consistent than I've ever been with the red light therapy. But you, yes, why that? Because that actually does boost the immune system. So that's got actual studies that support how it boosts your body's ability to fight infections.

Starting point is 00:23:38 Is that just because of how fast it's replenishing the cells? Like, what is it doing to help abuse the immune system? It improves your cell's ability to utilize the primary source of energy in your whole body, which is ATP. So when you're mitochondria use ATP faster and better, then all of your body's functions improve. So this is the main reason why they think it helps regrow hair, why it's good for skin, like wrinkles and collagen, why it's good for inflammation,

Starting point is 00:24:09 physical therapists have been using red light therapy forever. It's basically if your body is utilizing energy more efficiently and effectively, it's going to improve all of its functions and immune system, there are studies to show that it helps with that as well. No shit, you know, it's crazy you bring that up because I've been terrible at that again,

Starting point is 00:24:27 you know. One, we are a bit tall, so I didn't have the light with me. And dude, if my psoriasis ain't the worst it's been in a long time, and it's again, whenever I get dry air up there, it didn't help. I think that exaggerated, I think that's why it's so bad right now, but the combination of I fell off my consistency with using the light and then in addition of that being up in that dry air up there,

Starting point is 00:24:48 it just makes it, and then also diet too, because if my diet's off a little bit, so the combination of that, I might going through the worst psoriasis spell that I've ever been through. So you tell me that, now I was gonna make me kick back on my routine. Talking a little bit about some of the food that's sneaking its way back in,

Starting point is 00:25:03 the chips and ice cream, things like that. So I get this message and I've been dropping like some pretty random facts lately on the podcast and somebody sent me this one that was like another animal fact that I was just like, oh my God, I did not know this and I'm completely disgusted by it, right? So you know the flavors vanilla, raspberry, I forget what the other one is,

Starting point is 00:25:27 but I think strawberry, but for ice cream or for sodas, things like that, do you know what is part of that process? What animal? Isn't there an extract from the anus of the beaver? Yes, I thought that's a bad word. You knew this? Yes, of course you knew this. Yeah, it's anal, like, you know how,

Starting point is 00:25:47 like even dogs have like an anal gland like this for like marking and stuff. So beavers have this, but apparently it smells really good. Like so, yeah, yeah. So there was one like scientist, like she was like talking to this reporter about it and like putting the beavers ass like right at her face, like people think I'm crazy for this, but it smells so good.

Starting point is 00:26:06 What's it called, what is that called? It's a, oh, cast, a castorium. Yeah. It's got a musky vanilla scent. So here's the deal. Now is that what I'm gonna see on labels? No, they're not gonna put, yeah, they'll say the one that's going to say it has,

Starting point is 00:26:17 that's what I mean. Or has beaver goo in it. No, of course I can say goo. Oh yeah, beaver but goo. Or what they'll say is natural flavors or natural. That is very natural. Yes, so this is gonna get more natural in that. So when they put natural, when they say in a product,

Starting point is 00:26:32 cause we're one of them with chemicals, right? So everybody's like, I want something natural, I don't want chemicals. So instead of having like chemical vanilla smell, they'll say natural fragrances. Do you know that it's beaver butt. So is this shaved beaver butt? Now, is this the most popular

Starting point is 00:26:49 or widely used natural source of vanilla flavor? It's very common. It's very common. What? I didn't know that. Yeah, is there like a farm somewhere where they're like just squeezing these little guys? Look at this.

Starting point is 00:27:01 You know, I'm just like, this is crazy. Here's what it says, beaver's gland secretions. Oh, raspberry's the other thing. Can be found in alcoholic beverages, baked goods, frozen dairy products, chewing gum, sweets, meat products, putting gelatin, ice cream, vanilla flavoring, and raspberry flavoring. We're all eating beaver ass.

Starting point is 00:27:17 We didn't even know it. I had no idea. This is good to know if you're in nature. You know what I mean? And you're eating raw meat. Oh, gosh, I wish I could flavor it up. Yeah. We'll catch a beaver and rub it all over my steak.

Starting point is 00:27:28 Yeah. Mm. That sounds really bad. Try it. It's a catch a beaver and rub it all over my steak. Before you grill the beaver to eat the beaver, make sure you get the. It's a t-shirt waiting to be made. The fuck?

Starting point is 00:27:38 Beaver butt smell. Yeah. Wait a minute. Beaver butt just sounds like you're going anyway. It's speaking of food. You guys see that? It's like in and out, of food. You guys see that in and out close down. You guys know why? You have any idea why?

Starting point is 00:27:49 Probably just to main to safety for their employees. Well, I don't know. They were most fast food chains still are doing drive through and allowing that. And I just someone shared an article with me. I have any chance to actually go through it. I thought maybe when you guys might have known why they shut down.

Starting point is 00:28:04 Doug, maybe you could pull up why. But I thought that was interesting. I thought maybe when you guys might have known why they shut down. Doug, maybe you could pull up why, but I thought that was interesting. For a strap as to. Yeah, that is. No, I know. It's like what in my favorite. There's a lot of restaurants out there. I mean, this is the only way they're surviving right now.

Starting point is 00:28:16 Is the takeout. They must have a lot of cash in order to do this, but because in and out is private, right? They're a private company. They're not a shareholder public company. I think you're right. Yeah, no, I think you're right. know, cause, cause in and out is private, right? They're a private company, they're not a shareholder or a public company. I think you're right. Yeah, no, I think you're right. Yeah, actually, I know it because they have like Bible verses

Starting point is 00:28:31 at the bottom of their, they're like a Christian-owned company, right? Right, like, yeah, like, like Chick-fil-A. Yeah, you would never see that in a public company and they must be worried about, I mean, I'm speculating, I don't know what's going on, but I wonder if they're just, you know,

Starting point is 00:28:44 trying to protect their employees, if they wanna, you know, give them, I'm speculating. I don't know what's going on, but I wonder if they're just, you know, trying to protect their employees, if they wanna, you know, give them who knows. Or are they laying them off? Are they gonna cut all their pay? Well, that's what I'm wondering what's gonna happen with all that. Well, did you guys see the, the, what, not right, the strike at the Amazon,

Starting point is 00:29:00 at some of these Amazon delivery? What, aren't they hiring a bunch of people? Why would they strike? So it's not, it's not company-wide, but there was one or two of these Amazon delivery. What, aren't they hiring a bunch of people? Why would they strike? So it's not company-wide, but there was one or two of these like delivery locations. What do they call them? Where they have the products and then they share house? Yeah, something like that, right?

Starting point is 00:29:15 They went on strike because they're saying that they're not being kept safe because the policy is, if you don't have any symptoms or no, if you have symptoms, if you're sick, you can still come to work unless you're tested positive for COVID. And so the employees are like,

Starting point is 00:29:31 that's not cool or whatever. And so a lot of them went on strike because they said, we wanna make sure if people have symptoms that they can stay home and get paid. Wow. Rather than just having to have a positive. Now what's your thought, Sal, on,

Starting point is 00:29:45 I know you love reading economics, and I have to wonder, we just infused two trillion dollars, we're now starting to do all these, the business bailouts where you can apply for a loan that will be forgiven, we got a letter from our lawyer on this. What do you think is going to happen?

Starting point is 00:30:05 I feel like free money is just too good to be true. Yep, I think that there's gonna be a lot of businesses that take advantage because what they did with this $2 trillion stimulus or whatever is that they pushed it through as fast as possible. So there aren't lots of descriptions on the... There's not lots of stipulation so far. It's kind of a gray area or general with how they're saying,

Starting point is 00:30:37 if you use this money to pay your employees, then we'll forgive it. Well, what if a company has lots of profits and then they get this money and then they pay their employees with it? Do they still get forgiven? What I think is gonna happen is I think you're gonna have a lot of people Take advantage of this because it's not there aren't clear lines in it and then Later on I feel like the politicians are gonna come back when we start to suffer the ramifications

Starting point is 00:31:01 And then they're gonna start to say we're gonna audit you now and we're gonna go after these companies. He careful, don't pick up the soap, huh? Yeah, I saw that. I feel like it was so good. So accurate. That's how I agree with you. Like, I don't know if it's gonna be so much like, they're gonna be coming back to collect some of this money. There's no way because we're gonna suffer massive repercussions

Starting point is 00:31:22 and when we do, they're gonna blame the companies. They're gonna say all these companies took this free money and did, look, I told you guys what, I'm still appalled. Yeah, by what you brought up last time about the airlines and like how these new airline companies are popping up just to get part of the bailout. As of like a week or two ago,

Starting point is 00:31:38 there were, as soon as the news came out that these stimulus was coming out, 25 airline companies got started and 50 cruise line companies got started. That's your shit. Well, I mean, here you are. I mean, I understand the hustle, but yeah, it's definitely a hustle.

Starting point is 00:31:53 That's part of the game. Well, the shitty part that I think about all this is that if you're correct, it's gonna be really unfortunate if it's like the small business owner that gets fucked over on this and it's those The the millionaire who's got all the loop holes the lawyer the ability to fight it and to win usually that's that's who wins Well, I feel like the big companies that take advantage of this they are in kuhuts with their lobby

Starting point is 00:32:18 It you know the lobbyists and the politicians. Yeah, you're probably right. They're not gonna get screwed And also if you're a company that employs 50,000 employees, you know, publicly speaking, it's gonna be hard for politicians to come after you because then you're like, I gotta lay off all these people, but the smaller companies, especially the newer ones, I think that's who they're gonna go after.

Starting point is 00:32:37 Nobody's gonna hear about them. And I think those are the ones that are gonna take advantage but not have the connections. They're the ones that are gonna read and be like, oh cool, free money. You know what I think seem to be really funny? That I just started realizing this yesterday because my kids are now,

Starting point is 00:32:52 I've been, myself quarantined is over whatever, my kids I can see my kids. And I was looking at my son and his hair, he's a 14 year old boy. So his hair grows like Medusa. Like it's crazy. Like my, him and I will get a haircut the same day. And get the hedge trimmers out.

Starting point is 00:33:09 His hair is just grows, hella fast. So he's already starting to get a mop head, but you can't get a haircut anywhere. Yeah, I can't wait to see. Oh, I have a story for this. Yeah. So we everybody's hair. We've been trying to like figure this out too, because my kids have like, their hair's getting getting crazy right now and Courtney, her best friend is like a stylist and works us along and everything. So she's not working right now. So she pitched it to her like,

Starting point is 00:33:33 hey, you know, can you zoom or sky virtually help me as I'm cutting there? And I'm like, oh my God, are you seriously doing this? And she's going to do it. Oh wow. I'll have to report back and see how this goes. Dude, that's actually really interesting. It's a good idea. I was like, I was actually proud of her for coming out. But it's like, when I- I already saw some trainers pivot that I thought were really smart.

Starting point is 00:33:54 They have been, so okay, a lot of companies, like some of my client friends and stuff that have, like, they're still working remotely. Most of their job was remote anyways. Now they're just doing everything through Zoom. They have their meetings. They've got 100 plus employees or whatever. And then, you know, a lot of times these meetings

Starting point is 00:34:10 have got 25, 50 people. Well, they are actually taking those at home employees. Some of these companies are doing this, which I think is awesome that companies that are still thriving or doing okay during this time are paying for the services of some of these trainers. So those of you that are trainers that are listening right now. Here's a great pitch or people to go after. Are these companies that are still operating fine, still have all

Starting point is 00:34:32 their employees, but now all working from home is Skyping a group workout for the entire staff. Oh yeah. So you've got 20, 30 employees that are on Zoom that are following the trainer, doing the exercises and working out. And because you're going after a company and it's only an hour of your time, you could probably charge a higher rate for your hour of time that you're servicing 20 or 30 people at one time for company. So going after companies and charging,

Starting point is 00:34:59 charging, because you have a cur- You have a cur- Corporate Wellness. Yeah, I think if you, if you have a company, just say 30 or 40 employees, and a trainer charges you $200 an hour, but for 200 bucks, I get to have all my employees active and working out in the morning before they start work.

Starting point is 00:35:15 I like that. What a great service. I like that. It also brings unity among the staff. Everybody has to get together over there. I like that idea. I just, I'm telling you, it's gonna be hilarious when this whole thing is over in a month or two

Starting point is 00:35:28 however long, we're gonna be walking around and you're gonna see a lot of real hair color. You're gonna be honest. You're gonna see a lot of women with gray hair. Did you see that mean going around about in three months, 80% of the blondes will be gone? Yeah, probably. I'm telling you, it's gonna be,

Starting point is 00:35:45 I mean, where am I gonna get back? You know what might be selling a shit ton right now? Actually, I just thought about this. Remember the flow bee? You guys remember the flow bee? Oh, was that the one with like the, it was like a vacuum that like cut hair? Yeah, dude, it was.

Starting point is 00:35:59 This was a TV product back in the, I wanna say the early 90s. And it was like a hair trimmer that you, it was like, you attached it to your back. Your vacuum. So, and basically all you could do is cut your hair like one length, you know? But you, so military bases used that back in the days.

Starting point is 00:36:14 Do they really? Yeah, when I was a kid, I don't know why, where I was at and how wide I'd be at a military base. It's the phlobe. Yes, yes, I've actually had my hair cut by one of those. You cut your hair with a phlobe? I didn't. I had, I was, I got my hair cut. I was the same.

Starting point is 00:36:27 Maybe it turned out well. I got my hair cut at a military base, and I can't even remember if I was with an uncle or who I was with, and they had all the barbers had one of these attached to the clippers, and it just, you know, wild, wild. What's it? Bro, I'm about to buy one.

Starting point is 00:36:44 You have to watch the information for this, if you're listening. Oh, it's the best thing. It's the best thing you've ever seen in life. I'm about to buy one so I can cut my son's hair. So, over here, I'm gonna flow be around. So, it's funny that you bring up the flow because if I show this to Katrina, she's gonna die. You know, we did that questionnaire thing with the, you did?

Starting point is 00:37:01 Oh, the spouse's questionnaire. And the, and the, and the, and the, and the pet, I did not. Yeah, you did all the spouses question air and and the and the and the cheated and the pet I did not that you did I would not that is so late. He was hovering so bad So bad covering right don't be mad because my girl loves me bro You know that you He's like he's like these are way too good. She just knows you're she just knows you what you want to hear See this is what I've been to over 10 years bro. Here's the questions. It'd be like, what do I do the most that annoys you? And then your spouse is supposed to answer the question.

Starting point is 00:37:29 Right. So, atoms would be like, you know, like a clean the house a lot. It was not, bro. If you're going to share it, share it right. What's my, you know, your flaws, you work way too hard. Yeah. That was one. That was one of my, you're too focused, you're too on top of things. What's my worst quality, I'm so honest. Yeah. They were not that bad. Oh, dude, they were not that bad. What do I hate most about you? You spend too much time oral-sexing me.

Starting point is 00:37:55 Yeah. Yeah. What did you do? This is my best quality. She couldn't come up with anything other than I can accessorize my hats to my outfits really well. What the fuck does that mean? That's good.

Starting point is 00:38:06 Bro, how long you been married again? Yeah, dude, 11 years. That's what the honesty comes out. Yeah, that's what the honesty comes out. Did you fill out one for Jessica? Did you do hers? I didn't do, I, yes I did. I did one for her, she did one for me.

Starting point is 00:38:18 And she's, you know, one of the ones was like, what's a phrase that I always say? And she's like, I told you so. And I'm like, yeah, that's true. Yeah, that's what you said. That is, that is something that's... Yeah, that's true. That's what you said. That is something that's so cool. Yeah, that was when you make it fun of me.

Starting point is 00:38:28 You could contribute through back my quotes. I say the same. I have, there's a little handful of quotes I use all the time. She said, I say all intents and purposes all the time. I don't ever say that. Do you really? Yeah, do I say that? I was like, maybe once or twice.

Starting point is 00:38:38 You say that. I would know if I would say that. For all intents and betters, do I say that? Like shoot me. You know? It was supposed to be like a fun game that's out put out and better. Do I say that? Like shoot me. It was supposed to be like a fun game that's all put out and it would be fun anymore. I'm like, hey me, everyone's getting fights with it. Like really, you can't think of a single good quality

Starting point is 00:38:52 about me? Oh, dude, I was hyper-hero, I'm like crazy. I turned the table. How are you guys all getting along now? You're stuck at home with your girls as long. Because I'm finding, I'm seeing all these memes about couples getting at each other's nerves, parents having a homeschool of their kids and how they want to, you know,

Starting point is 00:39:08 I would think Justin has the most stress. I would think you have, because you've got two kids at home, you're trying to homeschool and, and why is this home? You know, it's too puppy. Yeah, I think that was the thing. And like I knew immediately,

Starting point is 00:39:20 if we had one more thing in the house, like it was gonna get a little bit more on the chaotic side, it was gonna get a little bit more on the chaotic side. It was gonna tip into that side of the scale. But no, we've been doing okay. Again, I kind of mentioned another podcast about how we've been trying to attack this by really kind of ironing out a good schedule

Starting point is 00:39:37 for everybody so it was consistent. But yeah, dude, I get home and it's like, ah, yelling and madness and chaos. I'm okay, I get home and it's like, ah, like yelling and madness and chaos. I'm okay, I'm right outside. So it just takes a couple, you know, stern like, tokens to the kids and stuff and then we get everybody like, right, you know. Now, but how are you and wifey though?

Starting point is 00:39:57 Are you guys, do you feel like you guys are fighting more often right now because we're confined like this? Are you normal? What is it like? Yeah, I think both, I think. But I think she's doing a lot of like self work right now, which is amazing. It's been great. Her going through this kind of journey and stuff and like really trying to kind of like figure out like, you know, where she fits with her

Starting point is 00:40:18 purpose and all this kind of stuff. Like things I've been trying to talk about for a long time. And so, but that's also bringing up other things, which then get kind of ping pong back. And then we kind of discuss like, well, I don't know, you know, like was that really me? Was that you or you? So it creates conversations that get a little heated, but then it honestly has been for the best.

Starting point is 00:40:38 And so it's actually pretty chill right now. Yeah, it's when they start, you know, when you hear this real quick, you know, come home like, hey, honey, it's like, you know, I've been doing a lot of thinking today. Oh. Yeah, it's when they start, you know, when you hear this real quick, you know, come home like, hey honey, I'm just like, you know, I've been doing a lot of thinking tonight. Oh, I just can't affect me.

Starting point is 00:40:49 Yeah, no, right now, you know, because Jessica's still in her first trimester, poor girl, man, she's going through it. Oh, yeah, I forgot, you could probably deal with a little bit of emotions and stuff going up and down right now too. Yeah, well, first off, her food a versions are terrible. If I say the wrong food, I could say steak.

Starting point is 00:41:09 She hates steak right now meat. Like any kind of meat makes her wanna throw it away. Which is crazy because she knows my loves meat. Loves it. So if I just say the word steak and she has to leave the room. If there's a, it smells powerful. The other day I had peanut, we made homemade cookies or whatever

Starting point is 00:41:26 and I put a little peanut butter on one or whatever and I guess I had the peanut butter smell on me. She couldn't sleep all night, she had to go into the room. I washed my hand, it doesn't matter. She can smell. It's like supersonic. Yeah, it's dude, it's so bad. She's had this so terrible, she's been such a trooper though

Starting point is 00:41:40 and then she goes through these phases where right now what's happened is her energy up until 2 or 3 pm is good. Yeah. As soon as 3 pm hits, she's fucked. She feels like shit. She gets super nauseous and she's tired. So what she tries to do is like front load the day with like everything she needs to do. Yeah. And the rest of the day it's like she's what she's eating the most of right now. She you know what's funny. It's it's she has such a small category of foods that she can eat. So, one thing that we found is that dairy

Starting point is 00:42:09 is a good source for her of protein. So, she's eating more dairy because meat is, she's averse to tuna fish, she can eat. So, that's not a problem. So, she can eat that. Rice cake, things that are bland. Yeah. It seemed to be a lot easier for vegetables

Starting point is 00:42:25 Big no no she hates vegetable. They make her want to throw up So we're trying to find ways to kind of squeeze this thing salads she can do so that's how she's doing her her vegetables So it's weird. Yeah, how much you change when you're like the opposite of what she's been eating Dude and I mean I'm sitting over here like I feel the same obviously I'm watching her I'm sitting over here like I feel the same obviously You know what I'm watching her I'm like thanks honey You're walking around on ancient you can't just like leave the house for the day or some shit I try to do you know help as much as possible, but something you get those breathmen, dude It's somethings you can't help like you know she feel like what am I gonna do?

Starting point is 00:42:59 I can't help you so I'm fucking sit there and here you throw up in the bathroom. I can't really do anything You know what I mean? It's terrible. It's really really bad. Yeah anyway, dude Italy's curve have you guys heard the news about their It's flattening yeah, so it looks like they hit their peak and now it's flattening out. Thank God. Yeah, you know They were in such a bad, you know, they were in such a bad place, but it looks like the quarantine is paying off and the cases are starting to flatten out. So hopefully we'll see the cases start to drop

Starting point is 00:43:34 and some of the people can go back to normal life or whatever. Well, on that note too, California just announced kids are staying out of school till next year, right? That's it, it's official. Public schools's official. It's official now, right? Yeah, done. Oh, it's it's only part of the private school. Yeah, because private schools were the first to close doors. They were of course they'll stay. Yeah, they're going to stay.

Starting point is 00:43:55 And then our what are they called shelter in place that extended to May, they're May third, I think. So May third is our extension. Now, how does something like this happen for someone like you who pays for private school, Salah? And if your kids aren't going to school, are you still paying? I mean, how's it going? I am, to still get in schooling. Oh, okay.

Starting point is 00:44:12 So it's still. Yeah, so actually they're very organized. I'm really impressed, because I've talked to my other friends who have kids that go to other schools or public schools. And they've had a little bit more difficulty, but like my son's school, he logs in, he's in his classroom live with the other students.

Starting point is 00:44:28 Oh shit, like that. He's on a schedule. That's what my kids have to, oh, I didn't know they were doing that. Yeah, they were doing that. Like they started to do that Zoom class with everybody. And, when did they start that?

Starting point is 00:44:37 Was it in tall? No, it wasn't, it was right after we got home. Oh, okay. But yeah, it's, but the workload is overwhelming, dude. Like the, it's not only is it like the however many hours like five six hours of what they normally would have worked in School, but then they're still given like the homework on top of that. I'm like, how dare you? I feel like the T. R. Home I feel like this is the teachers like going, don't pay a hundred percent

Starting point is 00:45:00 Yeah, yeah, and you're gonna want to get this done by tomorrow Well think about it this way. Let's say that let's teachers are still getting paid, which they are, and they still have to teach their classrooms, they're not in front of the kids teaching them all day. So all they're doing is at home thinking of shit for the kids to do. So we're like, you got to do this. That's exactly it. Yeah, so they're throwing together. And that's the thing is like no other schools in the county are anywhere close to the amount

Starting point is 00:45:23 of work that they're like pushing on the kids while they're at home like this. It's like, I was like talking to Courtney about this, you got to push back a little bit like this is like, this is too much, you know? Yeah, well, the way that the grading change for my son's school is interesting. He says now, because tests, they're not really giving tests

Starting point is 00:45:42 like they did before. Obviously, are they gonna give you a test when you're at home? Right, you cheat. Right, so they place a heavier or a larger percentage of the grade now is on participation. So when he's in the class, if he comments or says something, that'll count for a second. But here's the problem,

Starting point is 00:45:58 before tests were so heavily weighted that if he had a B, he could get a really good score and a couple tests and get it up to an A. But now the way that it's structured, he's like, I'm screwed, he goes, I can't move, I can't get my Bs up to A's, no matter how well I do, because the tests are not weighted heavily.

Starting point is 00:46:16 So it's like everybody, the people at the bottom are gonna be having easier time coming up and the people at the top are probably gonna sit a little bit lower now. Now we've been taught, we talked on this show years ago and it's been a while since we brought this up but we've predicted for a long time that the education system is gonna be one

Starting point is 00:46:31 of the next big systems to be disrupted. Do you think this could be one of the catalysts that caused that? Honestly, I really do think, especially in the college realm, like people are gonna realize they can just do everything online. Why go up, you know, why spend all this money

Starting point is 00:46:46 and go to campus to actually accomplish these things when you can literally do it, you know, the convenience of your house and keep working. Yeah, but there's also a lot of parents that are like, I can't wait to get my kids to school. Yeah, you gotta think there's always gonna be that. There is gonna be that, but I decked what you just said, Justin, that's what I kinda think.

Starting point is 00:47:01 Like I didn't realize that these, the teachers were already starting to host like Zoom classrooms like that. Like, well, even people that are like have graduated have like long time ago they were in school. Like, I'm finding myself interested in classes from like UCLA or things they're offering where it's like, I could just sign up for this semester class and then, you know, do it all virtually

Starting point is 00:47:23 and get an education on something I'm really interested in only. It is interesting. It's going to be interesting to hear how our kids talk about this time when they're older. Like, how are the kids going to remember? Because I can tell you right now, my kids are going to remember this as a fun time. Yeah. I remember when I got to stay at home and we all hung out and then I did school work. I mean, if it stays as a short blip of a couple of months, it won't be much on their memory. But if it leads into next year and we feel the repercussions of it,

Starting point is 00:47:51 then yeah, they'll for sure remember. I feel bad for the graduating. That's what my best friend who's the principal, like I didn't even, that didn't even cross my mind. And he's like, I have no dance. He's like, do my heart breaks for all of my seniors. Yeah. That are like, you just graduate? Like like no dance. He's like do my heart breaks for you know all of my seniors. Yeah that are like you just you just graduate Like no walk no no no

Starting point is 00:48:10 Think about that right you're gonna you're gonna go up to the printer to get your diploma With a selfie I mean I don't know like you guys, but I mean shit my my senior year in high school is like one of my favorite years It was fun man. It was a blast. It was, you know, you're on your last year there. If you had already, I had got most of my units or it does, it was taking half a load. I'd lay three classes and it was out of control. Senior year was a blast, man. And all the things towards the end of the year

Starting point is 00:48:36 that you get to do, like, man, that's a bummer. Yeah, I know. Yeah. Tee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee-ee zero risk so what is your waiting for go to my promenade i come and get started today it's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the Can you please explain this a little bit further? Yes, yes. I'm sorry, I'm cutting you off. No, go for it. And the reason why I want to start,

Starting point is 00:49:28 because this one, I've got into it with people online many times over the way I explain this, and this is another one of those examples where I talk about how it annoys me when fitness professionals in academia do this, where we get into arguing over semantics on who's more right about the science. Because one of the best ways to explain this to the average clients that they understand and get the concept is to kind of break down like, how many calories more does muscle burn

Starting point is 00:50:04 per day versus fat. And I used to, and there's all kinds, and where the debate comes from is there's all kinds of research and study to show how drastically different that is for person to person, which that's where it can get really muddy and confusing when trying to explain to the average person. But the way I would explain it to somebody is this, for every extra pound of muscle that you have on your body. So for every pound of muscle we build on your body, your body burns an additional 30 to 50 calories a day. Now that's where the argument is, oh, that's too high, oh, that's not high enough, like, oh, that's not, study show that it's

Starting point is 00:50:40 way less than that. Here's the deal. The idea is they get the point across so people understand, not get hung up on the exact percentage of the exact calorie amount. The idea is for you to understand as a client that if I can get you to add five pounds of muscle on your body, then I potentially have got your metabolism burning an additional two to 300 extra calories every single day without doing any extra activity. It's because muscles and expensive tissue it requires more calories to sustain to stay on your body.

Starting point is 00:51:12 More than fat does. You add fat, it doesn't take a lot of calories to keep fat on your body. It does take more calories to keep muscle. So as we build more muscle, it's more expensive. It needs more calories to stay. That's how it speeds up the metabolism. And the number is what's debatable. But to me, I used to just give that 40 to 60 calories extra per pound to put it in a perspective for a client that, hey, listen, we can keep your scale the same.

Starting point is 00:51:42 And I could actually add five pounds of muscle to your body and lose body fat and you would stay the same on the scale because you've added five pounds of muscle, your body is now burning in additional ex calories per day. Right, so it gets even more interesting than that because there's the obvious you have more active tissue, that active tissue requires more calories just to maintain. Fat is still an active tissue, but it's far less active than muscle. So it requires less calories to maintain. One of the most expensive tissues on the body is the brain.

Starting point is 00:52:14 Utilizes quite a bit of calories for the amount of the size it is and your organs as well. But muscle is a relatively expensive tissue. So that's the simple way of explaining it. And if a bottom line is more muscle means you'll burn more calories, that's the bottom line. But there's more to it. It also goes this far that there's a bit of metabolic

Starting point is 00:52:33 flexibility within the amount of lean mass that you have on your body. So what I mean by that is you could have 150 pounds of lean mass on your body and your body could run off of 2,000 calories or 2,800 calories with the same amount of lean mass on your body and your body could run off of 2,000 calories or 2,800 calories with the same amount of lean body mass. Now, how does that happen? Well, the body can make itself

Starting point is 00:52:53 without necessarily changing the amount of lean tissue or whatnot, it can change the efficiency of how you utilize calories. Now, one of the ways to speed up the metabolism is to reduce that efficiency, and one of the best ways to do that, is to send a signal to the body that says, I have ample calories coming in,

Starting point is 00:53:12 and I need to get stronger. So, increasing your calories, by the way, just bumping your calories a little bit, will actually speed up your metabolism a little bit. Regardless, I don't care who you are, you eat a little bit more, your body burns a little bit more. Now, how much more it burns depends on the individual, depends on the other signals Regardless, I don't care who you are, you eat a little bit more, your body burns a little bit more. Now, how much more it burns depends on the individual,

Starting point is 00:53:28 depends on the other signals that you're sending your body, but ample calories sends a signal that says, we don't need to be as efficient. Then the other signal is, am I sending a signal in my body that says I need to get stronger and build muscle? Even if I kept my lean body mass the same, if I start lifting weights and tell my body, I need to get stronger and I need more muscle,

Starting point is 00:53:49 just that signal alone reduces efficiency or the thriftiness that your body has with calories. And we've seen this with the people that we've trained. I've had clients I've worked with who have only gained a couple pounds of muscle, but the calories that they burn more doesn't make any sense. You gain two pounds of muscle, you're burning 800 more calories. I know two pounds of muscle just sitting there

Starting point is 00:54:10 isn't burning 400 calories. Yes, you have more. The environment you create. That's it. That's it. It's not burning 400 more calories per pound. So there's other things that happen there that we don't quite understand,

Starting point is 00:54:22 but I've observed it time and time again. I know other coaches. Coach, is that work with competitive, you know, physique competitors, bodybuilders and beginning competitors, like Lane Norton. He talks about this all the time. We don't exactly know what's going on, but we've observed it. And you make your metabolism faster by both building muscle and by sending the signals to your body, it's a, we don't need to be thrifty. You do those two things and you do them consistently and you you do it the right way and appropriately, and you'll

Starting point is 00:54:47 see a pretty steep ramp up of the calories. I've been blown away many times by it. Yeah, and just behaviorally, like seeing, you know, if your body, if you're focused more on building muscle and, you know, going in that direction, just what kind of activity that promotes overall in, you know, comparison to, you know, your lean biomest and you're optimizing your fat storage. So just the behavior of acquiring more muscle is going to create more calorie burden. Well, yeah, it's the two major factors. Factor one, to have more muscle on your body requires more

Starting point is 00:55:21 energy to keep it there. So it needs more calories than fat does. So that's factor one. And then factor two, if you're telling the body by lifting weights to build more muscle, it needs more calories to build the muscle. It doesn't build it at a thin air. So it needs calories there also.

Starting point is 00:55:35 So it's not just having more muscle speeds up the metabolism. It's also the act of trying to build muscle is also requiring more calories. The combination of those two factors is what results in what I've observed in my time, roughly somewhere between 30 to 50 calories per pound of lean body mass or pound of muscle that you add to your body, give or take

Starting point is 00:55:56 because there is a variance per person. But it's a really good number to give people a kind of an idea of like, wow, if I really make an effort to build muscle and I could just put on five or six pounds of muscle and focus that way, I potentially could speed my metabolism that much, that's a significant difference. It is, and look, a while ago,

Starting point is 00:56:15 the first time we interviewed, when I considered to be one of the smartest professional bodybuilders in the world, Ben Pekolsky, up until we met him, I thought that one of the genetic deciding factors, one of the factors that determined whether or not somebody could become a pro bodybuilder besides the fact that they could build lots of muscle

Starting point is 00:56:36 and they respond well to exercise and that their body responded well to drugs. One of the factors that I thought was they probably had incredible digestion to be able to consume all the calories that their body needed to build so much muscle. I mean, some of these guys are coming and shredded 270 pounds.

Starting point is 00:56:54 That's what I thought. So when I interviewed Ben and I told him this, he said it's the opposite. He said, pro body builders are able to eat less and build tons of muscle. They actually can walk around with tons and tons of muscle in their body and not have this huge metabolism spike. One of the reasons why they can carry so much muscle.

Starting point is 00:57:12 Imagine if you were 250 pounds, you'd have to consume 10 or 12,000 calories every day. It's going to kill you. And yet, some of these guys are walking around 5,000 calories, 4,000 calories, able to maintain it. So there's a bit of a genetic component. That's influenced there as well. But if you want to speed up your metabolism, build muscle, and then send the signals that tell your body,

Starting point is 00:57:32 you don't need to be thrifty with calories. That's going to speed up your metabolism. How much it speeds up, that can be determined on your genetics in some of your past. But that's how you speed it up. That's the most effective way I've seen. Next question is from Ila Ganky. How can you spot a good at-home workout plan versus a poorly planned one?

Starting point is 00:57:53 Almost everything I've seen online has me doing burpees until my knees give out. That's a great... This is a good question, okay? So here's a bad... Here's some characteristics of a bad at home workout plan. It's not phased. It is 100% completely circuit based, so it's just a bunch of exercises thrown together.

Starting point is 00:58:14 It includes lots of jumping and bounding, jumping, bounding, jumping side to side, jumping over chair, those explosive movements like that, you'll see that in our programs. It has its place, but you have to be advanced. You have to be advanced and you have to do the work, like leaning into that and then also, make sure you focus on the intent of what you're trying to get out of it.

Starting point is 00:58:41 Yes, they don't incorporate rest periods properly. So it's just cardio, you know, just cardio with your body. You're not really doing any resistive training. They don't have a stability, or excuse me, or tension component. You know, isometrics applied properly, require no equipment and are extremely effective

Starting point is 00:59:02 and valuable when you combine them with bodyweight exercise. If you have a home workout program that it doesn't incorporate any isometrics or stability movements with your bodyweight movements, then you know it was written by somebody that doesn't understand how to make an equipment free or minimal equipment program effective. Well, this is what inspired maps anywhere. Like every program that we done years ago, we talked you know a lot of mine pump early on before we had all the programs was us pointing out all different modalities And things that we saw in the space and probably one of the most

Starting point is 00:59:36 abused Workouts is at home workouts. No, the worst program. Yeah, I mean and to take a shot right at some a big company You're talking about a multi-billion-dollar company, Beachbody, which is primarily at-home workouts, and it's solely based off of intensity and look, it's all entertainment. Yeah, it's all entertainment. It's geared towards marketing to demographics of people that will identify with the person who's leading the class, and then it's just intensity based.

Starting point is 01:00:04 And it's just a bunch of random exercises that are put together with no sort of rhyme or reason that are designed to kick your ass or make you sweat. And that's not effective programming. I don't give a shit if you're in-home or in the gym, that's poor programming, and so us addressing that, talking about that, of course, our response to that is, okay, if we were going to write an at-home program

Starting point is 01:00:25 that is scaled up correctly and then also has the flexibility for the level of fitness because that's so important. When you're talking about at-home workout, you get a very wide range of people that are taking that. Everything from a brand new beginner to a six-year-old lady who's never worked out before, too. Somebody who's advanced in traveling because they're on the go

Starting point is 01:00:46 and they're a business woman or man, and they just need to do a workout inside their hotel room. So we had to take that all into consideration. Like, how do we build a program that's scalable for all levels of fitness, but then it's also programmed, knowing that, hey, there could be somebody, too, who's coming into this as very beginning, or at 60 years old, how do they have it effective? That was what...

Starting point is 01:01:06 And there's a lot of variables that you just don't see people use with. And you mentioned isometrics. And I think that that was one that really caught my attention a long time ago, just because it was so underutilized and it was so effective. And, you know, in the strength gains are beyond just the angle that you're actually applying these. It actually cascades in a little bit further and you get stronger and you know, you can even further range of motion. And so there's just lots of benefit to it and also it's very safe. So you can ramp up and really get an intense workout and get that same kind of a feel with

Starting point is 01:01:41 your central nervous system but less damage. And so why would we not highlight that as well as rubber bands that also provide like that same type of stimulus, but now, you know, the damage by itself is lower. If you look at all the categories of workout programs, the category that has the worst workout programming, the worst written exercises, the worst written exercises, the worst written workouts, or the at-home workouts. By far, if I, I mean, there's bad workout programming all the way around, but when I look at, like, you know, workout at gym workout programs or barbell and dumbbell based programs, a

Starting point is 01:02:18 larger percentage, a much larger percentage of those, I would say, are written better. The at-home workout programs, I have never actually ever seen an at-home well-written popular at-home workout program. They're terrible. There's a couple of reasons for that. One is the audience that they're targeting. They're targeting people who don't want to go to the gym, just want to work out at home. They know it's more average regular everyday, you know, Joe people who don't know the difference

Starting point is 01:02:44 between a good and a bad Workout. They just want to sweat at home. And if they're sore, then they think it's a good workout. And how do you market to them? I'm gonna make it flashy make it entertaining. I'm gonna call it, you know, urban cowboy workout or Pilates, you know, Pilates combat training or something weird on combinations like that. And it's just terrible Workout program. The second reason and, and this is 100% true, and if you're a trainer with a lot of experience, you know exactly what I'm talking about. If you wanna design a good workout program without,

Starting point is 01:03:13 I mean, a good, a well-made one, that's gonna produce good results, it's gonna be appropriate, it's scalable, meaning somebody as a beginner can continue to do this as they get stronger and more fit or somebody could enter into it as an intermediate in advance is still get great results. That requires way more knowledge and creativity

Starting point is 01:03:32 when you don't have a lot of equipment. If I have tons of equipment, I still need to know what I'm doing, but if I'm thinking of back exercise, I have 15 different options. When I'm thinking, oh, we don't have much equipment, we have a band, or maybe a pull-up bar like, okay, what are some of the movements I can do for correcting upper posture or strengthening the back, or how am I going to work the glutes effectively

Starting point is 01:03:55 when I don't have any equipment or the quads or what about the calves or what about the shoulders, I don't have anything I can press overhead. So how am I going to give this person a great workout with different angles? It requires more experience, more creativity. And you just, it's just harder to do. So a lot of the program you see at home, it's just terrible. Yeah, I know you guys have been seeing like lots of hilarious ideas, like creativity wise out there, what to do. My favorite, my personal favorite, I have to share this,

Starting point is 01:04:26 was, this was technically, I guess it was a squatter, they were trying to target their glutes, but they had their hands up in the air like this, they'd squat down, they come, and then they do like a side bend, sort of trying to get their oblique to crunch and then lift their leg up at the same time, with their arms up in the air like jazz hands. That was amazing. Let's go buy in five different exercises. I mean, the person who's asking this question, it's probably already got a pretty good idea because the fact that you notice that right away

Starting point is 01:04:52 that many of these programs just throw burpees in there, and the reason why you see that in these workouts is it's an easy way burpee button. It's such an easy way to elevate a client's heart rate and make the workout feel hard. If you do 30 burpees and then you go to elevate a client's heart rate and make the workout feel hard. Yeah. If you do 30 burpees and then you go to do a push up a lunge, a squat, any other body weight movement, it's hard because you just did 30 burpees.

Starting point is 01:05:13 Well, this is a time-tested trick. It's just the same trick that parallels like supplements where they want you to feel something right away. And then then you think it's working because I feel it like intensity is something that is overused because I feel it so therefore this is good. Yeah, it used to be back in the day jumping jacks and burpees became, look, if you have a, if you have an at-home workout program

Starting point is 01:05:32 that includes burpees and it's not an OCR training program. It's probably a bad program. It's probably a crappy program. The only time burpees, not the only time, but for the most part, the only time burpees are appropriately programmed, or when you're training for obstacle course racing where Burpees is part of the competition. Other than that, if you see it in your program, it's probably a factor.

Starting point is 01:05:53 Something high intense, but you got, yeah, the intent has to be there. Well, and we're hammering intensity, but I want to make it clear too though, that it doesn't mean that a, like an at home workout won't be, it can't be really challenging, really challenging, and then just laying into the intensity without any sort of real thought behind the programming of two different things. Yeah, because you can make, I mean, how often do you guys get tagged in maps

Starting point is 01:06:14 anywhere where guys were people like, oh my God, that kicked my butt, that was hard. Sure, absolutely. It definitely can be hard, but here's another way too, that's more simple for the person who doesn't understand what we're talking about with programming and exercise design. They're like, okay, I feel like you still didn't answer me.

Starting point is 01:06:29 If you feel like when you're done, you got more of a cardiovascular workout from it than you got like a muscle building workout and like you should feel a good muscle pump, muscle soreness from the next day. More so than you feel like I just ran a mile. Because that's what a lot of these at home workouts are. They're just, they're a bunch of exercises put in a circuit

Starting point is 01:06:50 with low rest periods. And really what that is, it's just more like cardio. It's less like, it's more anaerobic than it is in a ball. Like you're not sending this big muscle building signal when you're not giving any rest period and you're constantly going from exercise to exercise. Yeah. And here's a thing, aerobic, doesn't require a lot of programming.

Starting point is 01:07:09 It's actually not that hard if you want to, and jump rope. Yeah, you want to improve your aerobic capacity, then go hike up a hill or do some sprints or jump in place. You're going to get some of that. You don't need workout programming for that, but when it comes to building muscle, speeding up the metabolism,

Starting point is 01:07:25 sculpting the body, where you can actually shape the body because you're working and building muscle, that requires more programming. And I'll make this challenge all day long. I would put maps anywhere up against any at home workout program, and I would, I'm fully confident, it would be superior to 99.9% of the ones that I've seen what's out there I almost I've never looked out an at home program and said wow that was written well

Starting point is 01:07:50 It's never almost never happened. We just need an infomercial Next question is from she goes west. What are some of your favorite healthy food swaps? For example, I use Greek yogurt as a replacement for sour cream. Oh, this is Adam This is your wheelhouse because the competition. Well, yeah, no, I think that I think that's a Greek yogurt as a replacement for sour cream. Oh, this is Adam, this is your wheelhouse, because the competition is. Well, yeah, no, I think that's a Greek yogurt can be used for so many different things. Cocoa whip is another really cool one that I use for dessert cravings.

Starting point is 01:08:15 God, it's been a while since I've actually thought in this direction of different healthy food. You can add cinnamon to things and add a little bit of stevia and cinnamon and it just tastes like sugar. It tastes like a sweet cinnamon flavor. And I was trying to lower my alcohol consumption. It was definitely mineral water and lime and mint

Starting point is 01:08:33 and things like that to kind of dress it up, like garnish it at least, so it felt like, you know, I was still hanging out in party. You know, because I can't have dairy, I forget about all the great dairy options. And one food that was a staple for bodybuilders and competitors forever, for good reason, it's cottage cheese. Cottage cheese is high in protein, you can get low calorie versions of cottage cheese,

Starting point is 01:08:59 you can get higher calorie versions, you can get full fat cottage cheese, you can put that on almost everything or add fruit to it, and it's inexpensive, and it's a really, it's a really good source of protein and calories that you could dress up with fruit to make it taste almost like a dessert. If this person's already on the Greek yogurt cake, I have something for you on Greek yogurt.

Starting point is 01:09:18 You take Greek yogurt, you strain it over cheesecloth overnight in your refrigerator, dump out all the extra stuff, then you whip like stevia or something in it, and then it turns it into like whipped cream and then you dip like fruit into it, so it's a high protein whipped cream. Another really good one is cauliflower. Cauliflower is phenomenal for replacing like rice's and pastas and crusts and rice. Definitely pastas, a lot of that. Yeah, you can make cauliflower crust, so anything that would require like some sort of a crust in it,

Starting point is 01:09:46 you could use it for that. Anything that you would normally use rice or pasta, you can make cauliflower into rice or pasta bits, and it tastes very similar, or potatoes, if you would normally do mashed potatoes or something like that. Use cauliflower instead. So that's another go-to that I used a lot to replace. Have you guys ever used spaghetti squash instead of that?

Starting point is 01:10:07 That's another great one. I love it. We just had that the other night. We used spaghetti squash all the time. We've been doing that a lot since we went to the Tahoe house with you guys and you guys like cooked that that one night. I think it was an option. Yeah, you just spaghetti squash with sauce.

Starting point is 01:10:23 It's delicious or you can just do it with butter and a little bit of garlic. And then Adam, I know in the past you've used like low fat ground turkey to make like lower calorie taco. Oh yeah, I mean, I actually, I use that so much that I prefer that over beef now, just because of how greasy that beef can be. So I've gotten so used to making my taco salads,

Starting point is 01:10:43 my tacos like with ground turkey. I also use lean ground turkey to boost the protein intake into breakfast. Breakfast is also a really hard one for people to get an extra 20, 30 grams of protein. Most breakfast foods are carb centric. And so taking eggs and then adding two or three ounces of ground turkey, we'll make a huge, you know, Katrina will cook up, you know, three, four plus pounds of,

Starting point is 01:11:09 you know, lean ground turkey and we use it like that and all kinds of different things. We'll use it in, like it's taco salad. We'll make tacos one night. That's like a treat night for us or we'll use it put it in our eggs that'll boost the protein in it. So yeah, ground turkey is a definite go to you. Yeah, I've been doing wraps and this is, again, this is more just like trying to go on the gluten-free side of things.

Starting point is 01:11:27 I really do enjoy though, like the lettuce wrapped, like burgers and, you know, and then wrapping, like turkey wraps and things like that. Like it, you get to that crunch, so if you do like an iceberg lettuce or something like that, it definitely like gives you that still kind of a good feel when you eat in a burger. What are those?

Starting point is 01:11:44 Did I make the rice paper wonton thing for you guys? Okay, so here's another cool one. I know, I just, I wasn't ready for this question. So we take a, you know, what are those like muffin or cupcake pans? You know, like to where you would make muffins or cupcakes or whatever. And you can get a wonton rice paper,

Starting point is 01:12:03 which is like nothing, right? It's like, it's like, oh, I've had this. Yeah, and then you put them in those little cupcake things so they fold up like a Wonton, and then you put ground turkey, a tiny bit of your favorite cheese, tomato, salsa, whatever, throw it in the oven, the cheese kind of melts over there,

Starting point is 01:12:20 and then you have these little rice paper, ground turkey and cheese and salsa, little snacks. And it's like extremely low-cal. That sounds really good. Yeah, yeah, it doesn't take, I mean, literally, one ounce or less of cheese will do the entire cupcake pan. So that's the, like, cheese is probably the highest calorie, highest fat thing

Starting point is 01:12:39 that you're putting on there. The lean ground turkey is extremely lean. Tomato salsa, that's virtually nothing. The rice paper is virtually nothing. And it gives you that crunch texture like you're having chips or somethings with it. So what's that? What are those tortillas that are like grain-free? They're made with like cassava. Cassava florets. Yeah, they're low calorie. And you can make all kinds of delicious things with that. You can make quesadillas. you can make burritos that are low calorie with those. And then when I first met you at them, you told me about how to make shredded chicken.

Starting point is 01:13:13 You would get chicken breasts and you put them in like a crock pot and then you shred it and add them with salsa. Yeah, so that was like good. That's low calories. Yeah, that was a go-to meal. This was actually my staple peak week meal where I would boil chicken, which you would think would be terrible,

Starting point is 01:13:29 but I would boil it either crock-pot it or boil a bunch of it. And then we would shred it up real thin. And then I'd put it over white rice with salsa and avocado. That's it. It would taste like a burrito bowl. Really good. And I use green salsa, I prefer That's it. And it would taste like a burrito bowl. Really good. And with the green, and I use green salsa, I like to prefer that for this. So green salsa, avocado, over shredded chicken in a rice bowl.

Starting point is 01:13:52 And it was like such a treat in its lower calorie, high in protein. It was my favorite like peak meal, or peak week meal that I would have. Excellent. Next question is from Kyle Grego. Do you have any book recommendations for the quarantine? Oh, I definitely do.

Starting point is 01:14:10 I don't recommend reading nonfiction necessarily unless it's escape, so unless it's something you can read about historically that kind of takes you away from the current situation. I definitely don't think you should read books on viruses or how to like, you know, how to be, you know, or like revelation. Yeah, nothing scary. You know, you wanna, books are really good at calming the mind and the soul if you use them properly.

Starting point is 01:14:39 My favorite books, when I'm stressed out, are books that help me work on my spiritual self, on my sense of acceptance. One of my favorite books for this was by Eckart Tolly, a new earth. Eckart Tolly is, many people can serve him a spiritual leader, but it's not religious. He doesn't talk about anything metaphysical in his books. He talks a lot about the ego and why the human consciousness creates the ego and how it causes a lot of pain and suffering in us. And he talks a lot about how to accept reality and how to be more present. And I read this book or I read most of this book with Jessica maybe a couple of years ago.

Starting point is 01:15:25 So something she introduced me to, and I had a profound effect on me. It was like two or three years ago. It was maybe a couple years out of getting divorced and working through the whole dual custody thing with my kids. Very, very stressful, difficult time. And that book really, really helped me. And that's something that I could see, that I could pick up right now, that would really help me in the current situation, because the current situation is characterized by uncertainty.

Starting point is 01:15:51 We don't know what's going on. We can put ourselves in a lot of pain just by thinking and imagining potential. What if I lose my job? What if I lose my house? I get sick. What if my parents get sick, what if this thing explodes? Oh my gosh.

Starting point is 01:16:07 And that's us living outside of the present. And that tends to cause a lot of pain. And the book, a new earth, is all about how to get out of that, how to exercise and practice getting out of that and give yourself a better sense of calm. Yeah, I've been going through a book actually with Courtney as well as fingerprints of the gods. You know Graham Hancock. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just, it's great because it gives you a lot of like

Starting point is 01:16:32 ancient history and things that you know are somewhat on the fringe in terms of like being accepted as fact or you know the theory and it's just kind of a fun way to kind of look back at history and see how they're trying to kind of put all the dots together. And it's super fascinating to see how certain rituals were practiced, certain things like I didn't know about certain civilizations.

Starting point is 01:16:58 And he has like a follow up book too, about like America before. So the Americas have a lot more history that's just being uncovered now that they're finding all these different sites that they're uncovering. So it's just really fascinating to me. It's just to get into stuff like that. It sparks my curiosity. You don't got any of them? Yeah, nothing. Little blue truck. What's that? That's what I've been reading

Starting point is 01:17:26 your site. That's what I was reading. Normally, I have like lots of book recommendations. And normally, when somebody messages me the response I normally have is like, what do you like to read first before I recommend a good read? Because it really matters. That matters to me. Like if you're not, like, for example, I just recently finished a book that is probably made, for sure my top 20, maybe even my top 10, which was, you know, how an economy grows and why it dies. Oh, you talked about that too. I think that was, that was like, who wrote that? Peter Schiff.

Starting point is 01:17:59 Is it Peter Schiff? Yeah, Peter Schiff, I believe, wrote that. And then I'm wrapping up right now, Don Yeager's great teams. So I think it's the 16 things or 16 things that all great teams do. That was cool. So the great, the great teams is a great one for leadership. So if you're in a leadership position and developing a team, a staff, or you enjoy any love sports analogies.

Starting point is 01:18:25 That one is a very entertaining read that I'm reading right now. And then the Economy One by Peter Schiff, I mean, to me, that is, I will reread that book to my son when he gets to the age where he can understand economics where we can have a discussion on that. And believe it or not, I could probably read that too,

Starting point is 01:18:43 even though you would think, oh, what kid wants to listen to economics. They tell it in a, like a kid's story, which is it made it phenomenal. Like Katrina doesn't even like reading or learning about it and that stuff. She kind of leaves that in for me. And I got her to listen to that book after I read it. And she loved it because it's just very entertaining the way they tell story. And I think it pertains to where we're at right now because a lot of times when we're all freaked out right now and everybody's scared to lose their job or lost their job already and you know we're a lot of people are

Starting point is 01:19:18 excited that we have this trillion dollar bailout it gives you a different perspective when you really understand how this economy was built originally. We forget about that sometimes. I think we, especially us, we were so, we came so much later than we're standing on the shoulders of giants. You're right. And, and sometimes the, the policies and the things that we roll out or the things that we think are great, we have no idea the rippling effect that it potentially could have on our economy. And when you have a really good understanding of how this economy was built from zero,

Starting point is 01:19:50 like when nothing was being sold or traded or bought, and when you understand the history of it really well, it gives you a greater perspective of like what we're currently going through and how we should be handling times like this. And it's done in a children's story. So I can't recommend that book enough. I think it's an important read right now for most people.

Starting point is 01:20:10 It's a book I'll read to my son for sure. There's a book I recommend for you for your kid. It's called Nobody Knows How to Make a Pizza. You told me that. I wrote that down. Yeah, that one's a really good one. It's by Julie Burowski. And it explains how no single person knows how to make a pizza when you consider all the things that go into it

Starting point is 01:20:31 from who grows the tomatoes, to who makes the equipment that gets the tomatoes, to who makes the fertilizer, to who grows the wheat, and you start to realize that there's millions of people that are involved in producing things that we take for granted. Yeah, I have a feeling it's gonna be very similar to this one because they're whole instead of a pizza, they use an island where the commodity is fish.

Starting point is 01:20:55 This is before money existed, this is before anything. And the only way that you could live was you could catch a fish a day. And at that point in time, everybody had the capability to could catch a fish a day. And at that point in time, everybody had the capability to probably catch one fish a day. It took that lead, you didn't have a pole, you didn't have a net, you didn't have anything. It took all day long, you would catch one fish, and that basically what it took for you to survive

Starting point is 01:21:17 until innovation happens. Somebody then made a net, and then it talks about how the entire economy grew from that and they use real characters today, like they give them fake names so you'll know when they're talking about a politician or a policy, so they include that into the source. It's very well done and the way they give the analogies off of fishing and how that was a commodity and then how the economy grew from that. And then of course, there's challenges where at one point, the net's been made and then other people on the island feel that they should have the right to use his net.

Starting point is 01:21:55 And so they help you. And then after the end of every chapter, they actually summarize and work through the challenge and why it's important to decide to go this way or that way and what the long-listen if. Yeah, you told me this a while ago, I still haven't looked at it. I definitely know how to eat a pizza. Yeah, so you know how to eat one.

Starting point is 01:22:12 Yeah. It's interesting, I was watching a video by, I forgot, I might have been Bishop Baron, and he was talking about obviously his standpoint is from the Christian religion, but I consider him a very strong spiritual leader, and so I think there's a lot of wisdom in listening to someone like him

Starting point is 01:22:28 and other spiritual leaders from maybe other practices. But he said something interesting. He said, God likes it when people feel weak, and it makes a lot of sense. I think that's when people seek out spiritual guidance. That's when growth happens, right? When you feel confident and like nothing's bothering you and everything's great, that's when you tend to not try to meditate or tend to not pray or tend to not seek out spiritual growth. So other books that may be excellent to pick up during this period of time are books on spirituality.

Starting point is 01:23:03 There's of course the great spiritual texts from the major religions, you know, the Bible and you know, Buddhist teachings. It's just a background for the first time. Sure, but I think if, you know, or maybe books about spiritual, you know, these spiritual books, you're right, it is heavy reading. I'm gonna look about how to read it.

Starting point is 01:23:19 Yeah, I think this might be a good opportunity, you know, if you're finding yourself like, oh, I need to get rid of this anxiety and stress and I need to read something. Spiritual growth is, I mean, you grow faster and stronger when you feel scared, spiritually speaking, then when you feel great and confident and everything's going great.

Starting point is 01:23:39 So those might be some good options or books in that category. I recommend to Jessica. Did you read? I know she did, right? Purpose-driven life? No, I didn't read it, but she told me about it. And she said it. She's my cliff notes.

Starting point is 01:23:51 Yeah. She liked it, right? She did, she loved it. Yeah, that's a phenomenon. She liked it a lot. Along those lines. And with that, go to minepumpfree.com and download all of our guides, resources, and books.

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