Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1264: How to Improve Your Overhead Press, Strength & Mobility Moves for the Rotator Cuff, When to Change up Exercises & More

Episode Date: April 4, 2020

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about the best accessory lifts to increase the overhead press, good strength or mobility moves for the rotator cuff, how long to stick with exercises before switching to new ones, and whether gyms still should be charging trainers rent to train clients while the gym is mandated closed. Has Marvel jumped the shark? (5:28) Is the future of new movie releases on streaming platforms? (11:27) India is on lockdown. (20:40) It’s hard to know what information to believe coming out of China. (23:00) The secret market of ‘Million Dollar Bunkers’. (25:02) Mind Pump goes down the rabbit hole in the US/China trade wars. (29:33) Magic Spoon x Mind Pump giving back during these troubling times. (31:45) Updates on baby Maximus. (35:04) How to survive the growing fear surrounding these times. (42:10) Fun Facts with Justin. (45:35) The positive pivots in these unsure times. (47:00) #Quah question #1 – What are the best accessory lifts to increase overhead press numbers? (50:30) #Quah question #2 – What are some good strength or mobility moves for the rotator cuff? (55:26) #Quah question #3 - How long do you stick with exercises before switching to new ones? (1:03:49) #Quah question #4 – Should gyms still be charging trainers rent to train clients while the gym is mandated closed? (1:08:43) Related Links/Products Mentioned April Promotion: MAPS Prime/Prime Pro ½ off! **Code “PRIME50” at checkout** Special Promotion: MAPS Anywhere ½ off!! **Code “WHITE50” at checkout** Introducing the New 'New Warriors' | Marvel Amazon.com: Watch Troll 2 | Prime Video ‘Blast from the past’: Some drive-in movie theaters are making a comeback amid coronavirus Amazon.com: Watch Upgrade | Prime Video Police struggle to enforce India’s sweeping virus lockdown India's lockdown smackdown: Cops smash curfew violators as country's 1.3 billion people are told to stay indoors over coronavirus, leaving streets empty amid fears a MILLION could die REPORT WARNS OF PROTESTS ERUPTING IN WUHAN WHEN LOCKDOWN ENDS Billionaire bunkers: How the 1% are preparing for the apocalypse Survive any apocalypse in this $17.5 million underground bunker China lied about coronavirus, putting world in jeopardy, US intelligence agents say Visit Magic Spoon for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Babies | Netflix Official Site How 'Jaws' Forever Changed Our View of Great White Sharks How our modern body armor was created by an irate pizza guy Struggling Napa Wineries Offer Deep Discounts and Virtual Tastings Mind Pump TV - YouTube Improve Your Shoulder Workouts with the Kettlebell Halo – Mind Pump TV Z Press to take Your Shoulder Development to the Next Level – Mind Pump TV One Arm Arnold Press- Improve Shoulder Mobility & Development – Mind Pump TV Add Kettlebell Shoulder Presses to Your Routine for More Muscle & Strength – Mind Pump TV Shoulder Health Series- Build More Shoulder Mass!- High Face Pull (Video 3 of 5) - Mind Pump TV The BEST Dumbbell Curls You're NOT Doing (INDIAN CLUBS) | MIND PUMP TV How To Use The Steel Mace Bell in Your Fitness Training (John Wolf) | MIND PUMP TV Squat Like a Pro!- 10 Primers to Improve Squat Form & Depth- Handcuffs with Rotation (Video 2 of 10) - Mind Pump TV Mind Pump Free Resources

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. Mite, op, mite, op with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. Welcome to Mind Pump. This is the world's top fitness and health information podcast. Now, we're doing a Q&A episode here. Here's where we answer questions asked by listeners like you. But the way we open the episode is by talking about current events. We talk about studies.

We do some catch up with each other. Sometimes we mention our sponsors. So here's the breakdown of what happened in today's mind-pump episode. We started by talking about the new characters in Marvel, the new superheroes from Marvel. They might have totally jumped the shark and lost their mind. They are powerful.

Just way to listen to these new characters. You're not gonna believe it. Then we talked about new movie releases on Amazon. It looks like they are taking movies from the theaters and bring them to platforms so you could watch them at home which is kind of cool. Is this gonna be a new trend? Really, really cool.

Then I talked about what's happening in India with their quarantine lockdown. They're getting crazy with trying to keep people home. Laying the smackdown. Then we talked about the riots in Wuhan, not that they've kind of opened the doors, letting people out. A lot of them are angry with the way they were treated by their government during their quarantine. Adam brought up million dollar bunkers.

These are people who build bunkers underground and they're luxurious and extravagant. It's really crazy. I talked about trade with China. We mentioned Magic Spoon. This is one of our sponsors and how we worked out a deal with them where they'll be donating a box of high protein low sugar kids cereal.

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That is surrounding these times and how paranoid I'm personally getting Stripping everybody crazy. We talked about the inventor of the bulletproof vest, and then we mentioned the positive business pivots that are happening in these unsure economic times. Then we got into answering the questions. The first question was, what are some of the best accessory lifts that help you increase your overhead press number. So we give some suggestions there.

Accessorize. The next question, what are some good strength or mobility movements for the rotator cuff? So if you have shoulder pain or rotator cuff issues, don't miss that part of the episode. The next question, how long do you stick with exercises before switching to new ones? Believe it or not, some exercises you should always be doing. Never switch out of them. And others, you should probably be switching up new ones. Believe it or not, some exercises you should always be doing, never switch out of them. And others, you should probably be switching up a lot. So listen to the episode to find out which ones

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Go to mapsfitnessproducts.com, that's MAPS, FIT, N-E-S-S products.com and use the code prime50, PRIME50, no space for the discount. Dude, I did some research, Justin. You did. Yeah, because I didn't believe this when you told us this the other day. What?

Oh, okay, which fact? Marvel's, oh, is that true? It's, I looked and looked. It can't be true. I was hoping it was an April Fools joke. I so do I, but it's Marvel.com posted about it before April 1st, so it was like a March 20th article, then other publications, I think it might be real.

I hope it's not. It can't be real. And people on the left are even upset, right? Everybody is. So you gotta tell them. You got to tell them the names. We will. So they came out with a bunch of new character, new warriors or whatever, they call them the new warriors.

And they're connecting to the new generation or whatever. It's so. So two of the characters, they are, they're non-binary. Non-binary, which was that mean? Twins. So they don't have to identify, like, male, female. Yeah, so no, just somewhere in the,

yeah, we don't know what they are. That's not the weird part, whatever. Okay, I mean, you don't tell me if you're, I don't care, if you're superhero, what can you do right? Sure, here we go. The names of the superhero. That's just where it starts.

Yeah, so they're non-binary, the first non-binary superheroes. And one of them, they're twins. Yeah. One is blue, one is pink. Mm-hmm. The blue one is called, which is ironic. So do you see the irony there? Yes. Yeah. Cause cause usually that identifies male female. That's all I'm saying. Yeah, whatever. Anyway, the blue one is names snowflake. And the and the pink one is named Safe Space.

And what are their superpowers? Yeah. How are they saving people? Yeah. What are their superpowers? Yeah. The Snowflake apparently can shoot ninja stars made out of snow, I think, or ice. That sounds dangerous. You're kind of a fury. Ninja stars made out of snow I think or ice that sounds dangerous You're kind of a fairy That's the sound yeah, that's the sound. I imagine my head like he's somebody's robbing a bank. No

What's keeping a cold here what's happening the big? The big robber's like oh that kind of scratched me man. What is this? What are you doing? Oh my god. He saw Now I'm creating my safe space Nobody can penetrate in here with me safe space. That's what safe space superpower right so safe space superpower I see the story happening, but is that they can create force fields around other people, not themselves though. Oh, okay, okay.

They can create a safe space for you. Oh, good. So if your feelings get hurt or whatever, you know, this brother cry closet in the corner. No, no, no, no, no, no, not brother. No, just, oh, yes, sorry. We don't know. Human being in the corner.

Yeah. I don't identify, being in the corner. Yeah I don't identify but I cry I can't believe oh Disney jumped the shark dude that was 100% why you know what's funny about that is Everybody thought it was a joke because people over here are like oh I can't believe they're catering to whatever Then the people on the other side are like that is to too. Oh, like totally derogatory. Like it's condescending. It's derogatory. I can't believe that they would name characters. It's no flick in safe space.

Yeah. Pew, pew. No, she didn't. No, later. That blew up in Disney's face, huh? Oh, dude. So are they still launching? To me, this sounds like something that they had thought of.

And then they were going to roll out before like all this pandemic and all this stuff kind of, you know, we all forgot about all this like agenda stuff that everybody was doing. What do you think happened? You think that they hired, they had a big meeting and they're like, all right, everybody, you know, it's business and old company.

Been around for a little while. It's an American, old American company. Maybe they were all having a meeting. They're like, listen guys, America's getting woke. We need got to get more woke. And we aren't. We don't know what to do, what to say. Everything we say is wrong. So let's hire. Let's go on social media and find the most, you know, just people just yeah, whoever this most woke people, we can find as high

artist ever. Yeah, let's bring them in and have them invent our new our next character See that this is what they came up. Yeah, you captain woke would have even been better than that dude. I closet Yeah, I'm sorry Yeah, the snowflake is the same What's the other which ones didn't make the cut you know feelings harder? Yeah, hey you're fat Oh You know, feelings harder. Yeah. Hey, you're fat. Oh, cut boy. That's a, oh no. Oops.

Yeah. Yeah, that didn't pass with Disney. That was, that was a little too far. This is great, Justin, but, you know, this is not gonna work. I've heard the term on the internet, all right. Oh my God. I looked it up, dude.

I looked it up all over the place. And, and it's apparently, I don't, I hope it's not real. It can't be real. I mean, it is, right? You shared the article the other day, it wasn't April Fools when it got released, it was before that. What kid, okay, were you guys in the Superheroes

when you were kids? Oh, absolutely, dude. I mean, come on, Iron Man, you have the Punisher, you got Wolverine. What have they done? Now, you got Safe Space. What have they done? Yeah, Wolverine drinks, smokes, and stabs people.

He used to shreds, people, struts. Bro, heine drinks, smokes, and stabs people. He used to slice his people's throats. Bro, he used to shred and destroy and kill people, like violently, horribly. Punnature? Well, that's toxic now. Yeah, exactly. When I was a kid, the reason why I liked superheroes was either A, I wanted to be like them, or I thought they were cool or tough or whatever. If I was a kid and I read, you know, he throws snowflakes at people.

Yeah. I don't know if I like what's okay. Yeah. I'm not gonna be, I'm not gonna dress up as this one. I'm not scared. Imagine the kids role-playing them as characters, you know? Yeah. Psu.

Psu. It just makes zero sense. Yeah, they definitely jumped a shark. Yeah, that's terrible. Yeah, I speak in entertainment. You guys see that the movies that are in theaters are now being released on like Amazon and Apple. Dad is rad.

Yeah, all of them. How many? I don't think every single one, but I've seen quite a bit. Yeah, see, that's interesting to me because I would think if you were a big studio, you would just withhold any new releases like at all because that would be like the death of your movie Oh, they're they're dying right now. Yeah, they're dying nobody. I mean if what would it be though I would I see I'm curious if that's more of a something that theaters and have locked the rights down for many years or have Did is it really that beneficial for the movie? I would think

That if you open it up to be streamed in everybody's house since like X amount of people have that capability, but may not have access to theater or have the time to go through it. I would think it would drive sales up. They have old partnerships and deals with. That's what I think. Yes.

You know what it's like? It's almost like car manufacturers and car dealerships. How car manufacturers don't sell directly to consumers. They have to go through dealerships and Tesla doesn't do that, and that's why there's always been a little bit of a thing between the dealerships and Tesla, because Tesla sells their own cars. In some states past law saying,

no, you have to go through a dealership. There's old partnerships between theaters and the entertainment industry where they say, we're only gonna release it to you guys. And maybe they do get a bigger cup. Maybe they make more money that way, I don't know. Yeah, I would, you think they make more money through the theaters or make more money through streaming it?

I would think if you created the movie, you would make more money just letting it go. And today's time, the amount of volume I think to go that way. The amount of volume you would just be, so it'd be interesting then if you're seeing that, not all are, how did that happen? Why are there some movies that are now being streamed and then also, Sal, are they ones that are like, new releases right now?

Well, they've been in theaters for like a month. No, they're new. They're new. That's so interesting to me. And let me see those numbers, like how that looks at the end of it. So, like, for example, a movie that my kids have been waiting for, especially when I've been waiting for, is The Trolls 2, The World Tour 1.

That's coming out, right? It's supposed to be released, but they're going to release it on, I think, Amazon. So, who made, do you know who made Trolls? Do you know if it's like a big dream or a dream or a dream? Is it dream work? Yeah, so I wonder if it's like companies, certain companies that already have relationships with like Amazon and then somebody like a Disney

or something would not allow their movie to do. I don't know. I watched the invisible man. That was in theaters. Was that good? Actually, not bad. It actually wasn't bad. Super creepy.

My aunt said it was amazing, but it's scary. It's a thriller. Oh my gosh, it's such a win. That's what I told her. You said I didn't know I watched that stuff. You should be a character on Marvel. Yeah. Super creepy my answer it was amazing, but it's it's a thriller Watch that stuff you should be a character on Marvel. Yeah, I watch your movie boy scared man You know what I watch on Apple is so Apple's doing it at Apple's doing it then too because Invisible man was on Apple. I didn't know that was in theater. Yeah, so I think I think I don't think it's just one platform I think they're they're least I don't know what they're doing We also still have a drive through theater,

or a drive in theater in Santa Cruz. Are they crushing? Yeah, right now. I think there's other locations, like if you go down towards LA, and there's like other ones that are just, yeah, they're still opening it up, and that's the thing right now.

Oh, they have one over here on the Capitol. When's the last time you guys did a drive in? Oh, my God, here's probably over a decade. Really? Yes. It was, for me, it's such a terrible way to watch a movie. It's really only a great way to go to the movies with your girlfriend. If you're young and you have a date, you're trying to, you know,

drop a fuel, drop a floor. Yeah, you want to do a little handy hand stuff or whatever. Definitely. Then you go in the car, because it's like a sleeping bag. You do whatever, you know. I haven't been in such a, yeah, see look at the movies that are out. Well, those are all.

Yeah, none of those are new. The ones with the purple underneath. Yeah, so like bloodshot and visible man. Those are all in theaters, the hunt. Okay. I watched Richard Jewel, that was good. Which one? Richard Jewel, it's, you know,

and I don't remember this. This was in 1996, I wanna say what? I don't remember this. This was in 1996, I want to say it was, I don't remember the date, but it was the guy, it was the security guard who got blamed for a bombing. Oh yeah. Yeah, I watched that with you. Yeah, it was good. Yeah, it was really good.

It was really good. Yeah. I was there. It was good. Yeah, it's good. It's good. Yeah. Yeah. You know, all right. Yes, you were. You were a contriniac. Yeah.

You know, I watched Upgrade was, I don't think I talked about that on the podcast today. No, I did. I did a long time ago. Dude, yeah, it was great. I should really pay attention to you more. Yeah, I think you really shit. What did he just say the other day?

Last year old is better than that movie. Sorry. You shared that meme that the video meme this morning of the Jurassic Park. I shared that like a fucking four or five days ago Don't know you did know that that is that it's seeds Yeah, like they they just get in and then like eventually they grow into so I just don't know the brain the origins of it That's the big joke here at Mind Pover. We we credit Sal for every idea that happens

Yeah, it's like no matter if it came from Justin Doug More conviction That's a dog or mouse. That's not to be honest. It's like, It just says it with more conviction. It's like 85%. You guys have come up at least 15%. It's such a great idea to sell.

But anyway, I like the fact that the movies are in your house because I think it's great. But they're 20 bucks. It's 20 bucks. But I see that's not a big deal to me because you would pay way more than that go to the theater. You pay $10 a ticket. There's a market there.

I would be into that. Yeah, like 20 bucks if you're at home, the convenience of it's brand new, you know, like I think the mover, the pivot for them, and this time, maybe this time starts something like this, is you have, the price goes down as it's older of a movie, right? So if it's a brand new release, I would pay 25 to 30 dollars, maybe even 50,

if I really want to see it, $25 to see that movie or more, because it's brand new and technically would be in theaters, and then after like three months, then it drops to a rate, and then after three months after that, then drops another. That's actually pretty smart. Why? I think that's really smart.

Now think of it this way though, like theaters, you know how they make all their money. It's all the candy and popcorn. It should like, that's more like up by seven. The popcorn is time. Oh, dude. That's how they've been, they've been pivoting for a long time. Fought it. So hot tamales is 5.99.

What the fuck? You get like 15 pounds of it if you get a Walmart. Let me tell you about Italians, dude, go to the movie. We smuggle all kinds of shit. Yeah, just smuggler. Oh, you're bringing a whole, you're bringing dinner in there. And you know, I think, I think, sandwich is, and they never, they never, at least they don't for me. Like they don't't even stop you from doing that anymore because I think everybody that works there does the same thing too

I know you I think they all know it's absurd Look what I got away with Yeah, well it gives you shit one thing that I noticed is when you're a teenager and you're smuggling shit in the dude is way more likely to stop you when you're a 40-year-old confident man. Yeah, and I just got my food in my hand. Oh, yeah I really are we doing this. Yeah, I don't even say just walk right by. That's right. My pocket's, yeah.

You see this? You see this? This is a flash. In fact, I, in fact, excuse me sir, what? We have a problem here? No, no, no, no, no, just got, I got to tear your ticket.

Okay, good. You don't even say anything. You don't even say anything. I'm, I'm, in fact, I'm confident. I bet I could just walk through without buying a ticket. Just don't even say anything. Yeah, just confidently.

You know what I mean? Nobody even cares. What's the kid get us just keep walking? And sit down. And just walk through that by any ticket. Just don't even say anything. Just call me. You know what I mean? Nobody even cares. What's the kid get us just keep walking? Walk it and sit down. Just walk through if he says something, just wave it. Okay. Just walk through. Oh, you got your slash light. Is that making important?

Yeah, I remember, remember, oh, you don't remember. Okay, I actually had, I've had that happen in gyms I've managed where my friend, Death Staff, was not, they felt, intimidated. Yeah. No, I've had dudes, I know I've had members do that too. Yeah, when they just walk by and they're Um, you need to get here and they'll be like yeah, whatever and let's keep walking

You know stop them It's great. It's great. They would have I mean it's clever on their part right because it's always like some You know 19 year old front desk girl who weighs like a buck 20 and she's working behind the desk It's always some village man. Yeah, and it never happens And so what should you go to run and tackle them like no, so you just keep walking in and she's working behind the desk. And it's always some middle-aged man. Yeah, and it never happens. And so, which she could go run and tackle him? Like, no, so he just keeps walking in and she's like, wait a second. What do I do?

I didn't get a training for this situation. Just grabs a rip fuel right out of the fridge. It just starts drinking it. Walks over to the treadmill. While he's on the phone. Here, you got a trash can back there. Yeah, I got you. She doesn't want to interrupt him

because he's on the phone. Hold on a second, it's gonna be funny. Where did we do that? We actually did something like that once. Wasn't there like a wine festival or something? Oh, yes, we were in Austin. We were in Austin, Texas. That's right. And it was like $100, it was like $100 some dollars to get in.

It was ridiculous. And we were there paying that. We were there for the paleo thing, right? What's it called? Paleo effects. It's that paleo effects, right? We were there for that. We, yeah, and we were bored in there. And so we went across the street in Austin, Texas,

and they had this big wine fair that looked like way more fun. Yeah. And when we got up to the front, they're like, oh, it's like a hundred something dollars. And then I think we asked somebody like, we tried to, oh, we're mind-pump, you know, that didn't work. And so they're like, fuck, let's just walk in. That's like, we own the place. That's the Yo-Zero idea. Yeah. I don't think I don't worry. I're like, fuck, let's just walk in. Actually, we own the place. That's the yellow zero idea. Yeah. I don't think I don't worry. I was like, I like to say this.

He's also not gonna say if he was just walk by. And he did just walk by. Yeah, we got all the way until some really old guy. I was just like, now, this old guy. That old guy. Yeah, he had a gun area. Take your job, he'll share it. That's the guy that will stop you.

The kid, whatever, they're just gonna be like, I don't want to stop the Ronass grumpy look the retired There is the right now retired the retired cop who's got nothing better to do 60 something your old dude. He's gonna take a job serious. Yeah, you're ass is not fucking around again He stopped us and then we had to we got real close. Hey, what's uh, what's happening over? What's happening with India right now with the lockdown? Oh, you guys. Oh my God. Have you guys seen the videos of what they're doing?

No, you just told me about it. There's cops in whatever cops roam in the streets and they have these long sticks. And if they see you, like, there's video, and I'm laughing because it's a stressful situation. So I don't really think it's funny. I laugh sometimes at bad shit. They'll beat people with the sticks.

Damn. So like there's a dude on a rickshaw, you know, like whatever. And the cops are walking up like you're yelling at him and they're just hitting him. He's like, ah, he's like getting on and trying to run away and shit. Yeah, stupid. Yeah, stupid. They're super, well, because remember India's got a billion people. Many areas of India are extremely packed

and then there's a lot. And then there's a lot of poor, I know, India's that much bigger than we are. India is the second most populated country in the world. It's close behind China. Yeah. It's the largest democracy in the world for sure, but they're not acting like one of the,

by beating people. I didn't, that's crazy. Yeah, it, Doug's pulling up some videos, beating locked out. Yeah, see, they just beat the, Oh's crazy. Yeah, it does pull them up some videos Beating locked out. Yeah, see they just beat the oh shit. Yeah, they got sticks and they'll fuck you up and then make your ass go home Oh, wow, yeah, I wasn't joking dude It did seriously and they're doing this to people silly this kid right here He's like yelling. I'm get back hitting his bike breaking his Dude a people complain about being in America, dude. You want to send videos to people like this look at that I guess it could be like this so they're they're super super aggressive lately people all getting their ass beat and then here's the crazy thing

that's happened is a humanitarian crisis over there because they have I don't know how many he's spanked him yeah I don't know how many hundreds of thousands of migrant workers or millions of migrant workers that they have that work there from other countries that live in these kind of shantytowns or whatever, because businesses are shutting down, these migrant workers have nowhere to go, they have no work. So there's a massive migration of hundreds of thousands

of migrant workers now walking through India trying to get to the next country or whatever. And who knows how they're gonna handle? How's that gonna get handled? Yeah. It's crazy. What about what's going through the gauntlet of all these assholes hitting them with sticks?

What about the riots that are happening in China too? Oh, you saw that in Wuhan. Yeah. Yeah, they were so, it's hard to know what to believe at a China. Yeah, do communist countries are really, I mean, obviously, they control their media, they control everything to a whole crazy degree. Their internet can be on lockdown. But apparently, the way that they handled the lockdown was crazy.

Some people were starving because they wouldn't let them out of their houses. They would weld people's door shut. So you're stuck in your home literally because they'd weld your door shut so you couldn't open the door to get out. And so now that they're letting people out, apparently the residents are furious with the way that they were being handled. And they're, they're, they're, they're writing. They're coming out and writing against the,

the government because of the way that they all got. But I couldn't imagine that getting your door welded shut by officials. Yeah, you have some like medical emergency good luck. No, really, really crazy. Now, do you think we're gonna see crazy shit like this if the lockdown continues? I mean, we just extended it again. Do you you think we're gonna see crazy shit like this if the lockdown continues? I mean, we just extended it again. Do you think like we're gonna start seeing people start to get really?

I should hope not. Okay, so here's the difference between the big difference between a country like America and China is one big thing is that we're the most we're the most armed country in the world. If it gets crazy, it's not just a bunch of people without arms that are going to be welded in their doors. There's people own more guns than the local police in stuff in this country. So I don't see them getting that draconian. I can't see that happening.

So I don't think so. I don't think so. There may be hot spots where they try and clam things down, but I just, Americans are also free. We've lived free, so we're probably, there's less room to push us. You know what I'm saying? I tell you, a hot business to be involved in right now that I see more and more. I didn't even know this existed until I don't even know

what made me go down this rabbit hole of researching this. But there is quite a few contractors that are creating these like underground bunkers. There's like a market for this. Oh, I bet. Right now, the Trevor business. I'm curious to see. So I think I don't remember like red or I heard this,

and then again, I started searching and then I went down this rabbit hole of like okay if there's someone making these right now There's got to also be somebody who's like already thought of this or been in construction or made crazy ones Dude, there is million dollar freaking bunkers like bunkers that cost like a million to five million dollars to have these things and they're like Super luxurious. I mean, like the most amazing five star hotel that you've ever stayed at, better than that. Like over the top, what they're doing.

It's insane. I've seen some pools. I've seen some winners and stuff. Feeders, indoor pools and just the space that they have for restaurants. And they could feed, they have enough canned food and food ready. They could feed all the residents there

for like the next five years. So what does it look like if you had to like live in something underground? Like what are your essentials? So they even do, so they're even doing things like this that I think are smart to think about that. Like okay, you can understand this is like 145 feet underground. So like where you would have a window on your bedroom wall

whatever they have like a digital window that is shooting stuff for outside. So you're still looking like you're looking. So it's even real from outside. So it's not just the painting. Yes. You can watch all the zombies. Yes. And it's. Yeah. Oh my God. You watch the nooks. Go look outside, honey. Well, some of these are built to handle a direct hit from a nook. You know what? You know when these really started taking off, it was during the Cold War. Yeah, that's when they first started, that's what I read. During the Cold War and they have air cleaning systems that can handle fallout.

So when you're in there and you know, nukes are going off and there's fallout or whatever, you'll have clean air. You've got sewage systems in there, home gyms, they've got theaters, they've got, now you know what's crazy about these things. I want a mini golf set up. Yeah, you guys ever watched the Twilight Zone? Yeah, oh man, they've got good episodes on stuff like this and how people, there was one episode where they aliens,

you don't know what's aliens, but people's power is going out and none of their electronics work or whatever and within a short period of time They start blaming each other the people and they end up killing someone and then the aliens up above are like, okay The test looks like it takes approximately seven days of a little bit of chaos for them to start turning on each other on each other And it was really good episode. Brilliant, well written show. Such a well written show, but I would hate to be stuck in a bunker with a bunch of, because people can get weird, you know what I mean?

When there's like, there's no controls, you're just stuck in this bunker. Yeah, but it's still, it's not like a little bunker, it's like a city underground. So it's, you know, just like if you didn't like your neighbors, you don't say hi to them, you don't go see them. It's, you have that much room in space in there. People get weird, dude, when they're locked up and they know that they can to him, you don't go see him. It's that you have that much room and space in there. People get weird dude when they're locked up

and they know that they can't leave, you know? You ever read the Lord of the Flies, you ever read that book? I mean, I think if you're in a bunker like this where you pay to a million to three million dollars, you are already thinking this is a possibility this could happen. So you're not getting like the crazy person who's down there who didn't think this was a possibility and it's freaking out like you're getting somebody who goes I've got

a million dollars to invest in this because I believe one day we may be cooped up that they're already mentally prepared or like really crazy but they have a lot of money. Yeah or that right well you know apparently the rumor has it that the the US government has and they built this of course during the Cold War and they've continued to upkeep it or whatever that we have an entire Underground city or whatever that was built so that the government and Kansas continue running. You know where it is? Yeah, look at it. It was it was an undisclosed that they had under the Denver Air Force and there's some weird Alex Jones why would they tell everybody yeah where it's at well?

It was it wasn't no one knew about it before before, but it's been there for a long time. Old one maybe. Oh yeah. Cause it's like, I think the reason why I think they picked the destination is cause it's like, literally like in the middle of nowhere. Like the next nearest city or something is, I can't remember if it was like hundreds of miles away

or whatever. So the likelihood of someone bombing that area or even close to that area is extremely low and it's like a whole underground city of all these bunkers. You know, speaking of the Cold War and stuff, that just reminding me of a conversation I was having with someone my cousins yesterday. So news came out that US intelligence now has evidence that China really repressed information of when the coronavirus really started to come out.

And because of that, like they really, they silent scientists, they silence doctors, they didn't tell anybody. And because of that, of course, now we have a pandemic. And so my cousins are like pissed off and screwed out. We need to do, we need to never trade with China again. We should never support a communist country. And we had this big debate because I reminded them

of the Cold War, you know, the Soviets were also communist and we had, both sides had Nukes pointed right at each other and we came within, like people don't realize, if you read history, we came, bro, we came in, it was scary. We came so close several times to all out nuclear war, several times, and we've never come even close to that with China, and the reason is because we trade heavily

with them, you know, when countries trade heavily, you know, it's, you don't, the odds that you're going to go to war with each other is way way less Isn't that what kind of debunks the conspiracy theories about China did this all on purpose like why why would they do something and potentially Savitage a part of a country like us who does so much is there an economy to right? Yeah, we're so intertwined it would destroy them as well So that's the and there's this interesting fact that I read an old book I don't know who said this I might have been Milton Friedman, but he said no two countries that have the McDonald's franchise

I've ever gone to war with each other. So in other words, what say I know no two countries that have a McDonald's franchise Have ever gone to war with each other, which is interesting. Yeah, I don't know if that's true. It was an old book That's a random statistic. But the point that he's making is that you know if they're if they're trading with each other, which is interesting. Yeah, I don't know if that's true, it was an old book. That's right. But the point that he's making is that, you know, if they're trading with each other, they're not gonna go to, they're not gonna work it out. Yeah, because when I'm afraid of, is after all of this happens,

because we've already had some like tensions with them anyway with trade, is that people aren't like, fuck damn, kind of like a lot of clothes, completely. It's just gonna make, it's just gonna make it worse. So I wanted to share some cool news with you guys. So I've been going through and normally I don't do this normally, Rachel or Rihanna or Katrina is handling this side

with like our partners and I've actually got on the phone with everybody, I told them, I said, hey, I think it's a good move to have one of us. Owners speak to them and just see how they're doing and make sure that we're doing everything we can to support them. And so I've been kind of like making my rounds on like all of our partners and talking and seeing how we can support or what they're doing.

And you know, so far it's been really, it's been really good conversations. I was a little weary about it. I thought maybe that a lot of them would be struggling really bad. A lot of the partners we partner with are direct to consumers or doing well. And one of them that I got off the phone with the other day was Magic Spoon.

And what's really cool is we're gonna do something with them and that was so great to hear that they were doing fine during this, not only are they doing fine, but our whole conversation ended up turning into, hey, what is a way that we can do to give back? And so something that we did was reduced rates on our commercial and advertising for them. And with that extra money, they then can take for every box a cereal that people

purchase from us that you will also, they'll also donate that to a food bank. Such a great deal. And they've already done this over in New York already. 20,000 boxes that they gave to the kids or to kids who rely on school lunch schools. And they do, Magic Spoon does extremely well with us. Our audiences receive them love, and we keep getting more and more people that love the product. And so you're talking about hundreds to thousands of boxes now

because of Mind Pump will be sent over to the Food Bank, Mind Pump and Magic Spoon of course, like because of them, they'll be able to do something like that. Wow, that's really awesome. Yeah, and for kids, I like them because, especially if you have a kid who doesn't like protein-containing food, which is common, right? It's a common complaint.

I hear from parents is that their kids don't want to eat eggs or chicken or... Or meat. Red meat, or steak or anything like that. All they all want to eat is carbohydrates. So it's hard for them to give their kids adequate protein or whatever. You know, and good.

This is not a whole food, right? Whole foods are always the best, but it's one way to sneak in high protein. And it's quality protein, it's way protein. It's not garbage protein. Pro-menit taste delicious. Yeah, it's like, it tastes delicious. Yeah, it tastes delicious.

It's not so sneaky. And it says we started this podcast. I know you've teased me about that forever, but I mean, I'm sorry. I think more people relate with me that, you know, it's hard to... You eat a bowl every day. I would say every day, but it's definitely...

It's definitely... Right now it might be every day. So right now it might be every day. So it's definitely... Are you still the blueberry? Is that still your favorite? Well, blueberries are hard to get. The blueberry sells out. So I've only got, I'm like, and it's so I've rationed it by using blueberry with fruity. So you're so that's, I was just, I was just, I'm just, I'm just, kind of, I have a one box of blueberry and I have like 10 boxes of fruity. Do you got to ration

it? So I'll do exactly that as I'll go half of my, my box of fruity with a, a little bit of blue because I love the blueberry. So I try and like stretch as I'll go half of my box of fruity with a little bit of blue because I love the blueberries. I try and like stretch it out as long and it makes it calm. Yeah, no, it mixes perfectly well together. But I used, you can seem to get a fruity still, which is my favorite too. But blueberries are hard to get ahold of man. I'm always refreshing and trying to see when they get a new stock.

It is. It's worth a paper of cereal. Speaking of food or whatever, are you're are feeding Max from solace now, right? He just, we just introduced eggs yesterday. Oh no. How do you do with them? Good. Well, today is, so they say I think three, he needs three feedings, I think in a row or

is it one of the three days in a row they say to see if he has some sort of analogy or a reaction to it. Today was day, when I was leaving the house to work today, they were, uh, her and the nanny were feeding that to him right now. So we'll know I guess after today and tomorrow it seemed like he's been fine. We've introduced, let's see here, we've introduced chicken, beef, avocado. How do you give it to him? You guys blend it up and then mix it with something. We make all everything that he has is whole food in organic. That's the first first kid and yeah, and we

That's what everyone says, you know saying I don't you know, I here's it I can't take any credit for that Katrina's a rock star And I and and she probably wouldn't be able to do that if we didn't have support If we didn't have support to take a lot of the load off of her I could I can't I can only imagine how hard that is for the average person. So when I say things like that, I'm extremely grateful and blessed for the support

that I have because I don't expect that every parent could handle or do that. It's just, I know it's a lot of work. I take Katrina almost every night is planning what he's gonna be eating in two or three days and blending it all up and then freezing it and getting ready for that. And so, you know, and then again, she has someone who's assisting her to make sure that she can help why she's also working. He's eight months?

Yeah, he's gonna be, he's gonna be nine. So... Doesn't that, God, is it just me or that fly? Yeah. Like I feel like it was yesterday you had a kid. Yeah, it might have flown for you guys. Uh, the first six months is very twilight zone, man. It really is. It's like... It's the hardest. You know, him sleeping on my chest and things like that,

like, and you're like, oh my god, you're so in love with this thing that you have now that you're just... You're so bonded and connected with that you've never had anything like that. So, all that's amazing, but it's very, you know, twilight zone, it's the same... It feel like the same thing over every single day. That's what they call it the grind, dude. Yeah, this first six months is like a grind like that.

Month seven, you know, you really started to see kind of a personality coming out like him being a lot more aware, being able to distinguish the difference between mom and dad and like, you know, all that's happening right now and now he's obviously sitting up really well and you know, he's like just the first day, the other day was the first time that he like sits through me reading a book to him. So I've literally now I think I'm on like the fifth book now. I've been reading to him since like almost day one, but it's not. You can tell now he's in. Yeah, yeah, it's not really reading to him. It's me reading children's books. Yeah. Does he have any pain attention?

You know what I'm saying? He's sucking on things, looking other places. He's looking at the book in front of him. But you can tell that his sight has like fully come in and his depth perception and colors and everything because now when I open the book and sit him between my legs and read to him, like he's listening and he's paying attention to it, which is cool, you know?

But it's even still so early there that, you know, I can only read like one short book to keep his attention span. After that, he gets restless and wants to do something, but that's already been a leap. And you know, those things, I couldn't do those things in months, four, and five, like so that stuff is cool. It's crazy how fast they change.

I mean, it's like, I remember coming home and my kid being different from the day before. Like all of a sudden they said something new or their personality changed. I'm like holy cow, that was. Yeah. And you know there was a, where did I watch this? There was a, I think it was on Netflix. I can't remember where I saw this. Anyway, there was this, this, this, this docuseries on babies and children. And one myth is that children and babies grow

a little bit every night. Oh yeah, that's the Netflix series that I talked about. It was that one. Yeah, it was really good. And there was a lady that did some pioneering research and showed that kids do have growth spurs. That they won't grow, won't grow, won't grow, won't grow. And then all of a sudden boom,

it's just explosion of growth. And it's crazy, like an inch over night. Type of deal. Insane. And that's why, you know, and parents have known this for a long time, where your kids are like, grouchy, or pains that they didn't have before.

Or all of a sudden they're sleeping like crazy. Like that'll happen on my son. You know, he's a teenager. He's like a horse all of a sudden. Oh, that'll be my son all of a sudden. I'm, you know, like last night I made burgers. So I made these little burgers with, with like smaller pieces of bread. So they were kind of like,

not quite as small as a white castle burger, but not as big as a massive burger. So they're a little smaller. And my son's over, he ate like four or five of them. And he just like, do we have anything else? I'm like, you're growing. Yeah, you're going through a growth spurt. Something's going on.

You know, like when you haven't seen like a cousin and nephew or someone like that, and like it's only been two weeks or something, and you're like, oh my god, like you swear you grew, like four you haven't seen like a cousin and nephew or someone like that, and it's only been two weeks or something, and you're like, oh my God, like you swear you grew, like four inches to seeing you, like it's, you obviously can tell there's something happened and even that sure. When you hear that as an adult, it's totally not the same.

Wow, you look bigger. Yeah, what happened? Like old. Yeah, I'm totally having baby fever though right now, or Jessica's going into her 12th week. And I think next week the baby's supposed to be a size of a lime or something like that. Did you follow that when you're...

Oh, God, you kidding me, Katrina is like, so all that stuff. I'm right now, so... I'm Tee-Nee being last night. I'm teasing her about this last night, because so my youngest brother and sister who like I played a role in raising because we were over 10 years apart, right?

So I was already a young teenager when they were infants and toddlers. So back then, you know, baby monitors were just an audio thing that you put in there. And when the baby cried, you go in there and you check, well, you know, now technology like we just heartbeat changes, it's temperature changes, the fucking cameras on him. He moves, we get, we get a fucking notice, like, you know, it's like, it's crazy, like, the ability to, and Katrina is like, she watches him the whole time he sleeps, and I always tease her, like, she's got, we've got, she's got the iPad, who's linked and showing it, then she has her phone that's on it, and we're like, sitting on the bed and we're

talking, and like, she's got the big iPad that's going of him, and then she's got the iPad who's linked and showing it, that she has her phone that's on it. And we're like sitting on the bed and we're talking, and I'm like, she's got the big iPad that's going with him, and then she's got the phone in her hand, and we're talking, I'm like, would you relax? Well, she, right now, what do you do, like he's just learned to roll over in his bed. So he's rolling over in the bed, and she wants to keep going up there every time she does it.

She's like, wanna make sure he's breathing, okay? Is it honey? If he's not, he'll move. Like he's breathing, okay. She's like,, if he's not, he'll move. Like he's breathing. Okay. She's like, he's never rolled over to just how you kidding me. And I'm like, honey, he's, he's already, it's in, instinctly built in him to want, to want to breathe. He's already eight. He's eight months old. He's passed the scar. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But they still tell you statistically that some people, some kids, all it takes is

that one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one all it takes is that one one one one House of statistics is that never like that's the thing like I'm so glad when Courtney stopped working in pediatrics Because it's like you get like all those statistics you you mentioned all the Yeah, she sees the worst case of every one of those and it's like the you know the two to five percent You know worst case scenarios and then brings that kind of information home and I'm just like, oh my God, okay. It's how I feel. I gotta calm you down. It's how I feel about what's going on right now with COVID.

I mean, everything is, if it's not scary, it's not gonna get shared. It's so hard, I'll tell you what, I am living through it myself. This is like one of my biggest triggers and when I'm living through it,. This is like one of my biggest triggers and I'm living through it. And so it's hard. You have to have a daily practice to tackle it.

It's not as easy as saying, don't freak out. It's not a big deal. Here's the real numbers or whatever. You have to like daily check yourself, daily. Well, it's hard because it is a big deal, right? It is. Hundreds of thousands of people are probably going to die. That's a big fucking deal.

Yeah, but you don't, what ends up happening, like with someone like myself, and I'm sure there's people listening who can identify with this, is I'll sit there, and I'll have looping thoughts of worst case scenario. Oh, I know. What does my mom get to say? What about my dad?

What about my kids? Oh, my God, my son will cough upstairs. He was doing his homework upstairs, and he drank some water, went down the wrong pipe, he started coughing immediately, and I'm like, why are you coughing? What's going on? Hey, what's in on?

How are you feeling? And Jessica's like, dude, you need to chill the fuck out. And I'm like, oh my gosh, dude, this is totally, oh my two best friends, we have these threads. Like, there's days I choose not even to go on it, because it's like, it's smart. Yeah, I just, I just, in it's, because it's this, you know, sharing articles back of,

oh my god, I'm trying to lie about this. Oh, look at these new stats. Oh my god, New York spiking over here. And it's like all this, this frenzy and craziness. And, you know, like, I try and stay in the middle. Like, I really feel, I really think it's very important that we social distance and we do our due diligence as a community to do the best that we can to not spread this thing and interact with each other.

And to me, that is the best and the smartest thing that all of us can do. But at the same time too, when you see the amount of things that people die from, from everything from suicide to AIDS, to influenza, to car accidents, I mean hundreds of thousands, millions of people die a year from all of these tragic things, but yet we still drive in a car, we still potentially hang out in a facility

that has somebody that has AIDS, we still do all these things and still goodbye. But because this is such a hot topic right now and because the way the news perpetuates the information, it's sometimes I wonder if the panic and the stress that we are causing on ourselves may induce more harm than the actual likelihood of you getting COVID.

It always does, right? It always does. You need to have rational fear. Easier said than done. Again, I'm speaking from personal experience, but it's thinking of the potential. It's worrying about stuff that's not happening right now. That's what causes the big problem.

And you're right, you know, they did studies on this. I remember learning these in high school psychology class where you brought up these studies where people's fear of shark attacks and the perception of shark attacks exploded after jobs. After jobs, after the movie jobs came out and everybody, they asked people, do you think shark attacks were on the rise

and everybody's like, oh yeah, definitely. They're not, they're the consistent all year long. And people are more afraid of getting a shark attack than drowning. Which the odds are way more that you're gonna drown. You know? It's really weird, it's really, really crazy. Yeah, I had one fun fact though,

I wanted to leave us with here. There was, I was researching and I had no idea who created the bulletproof vest. So I guess it was a pizza guy in Detroit. Who had, yeah, who had basically, he was trying to like protect himself because he'd been shot. Like two or three times previously to this and then got a hold of Kevlar and then started experimenting with it and actually like shot himself to see if it works. Wait a second. Wait a second. wait a second.

You mean to tell me that some pizza delivery guy and Detroit thought of a bull professed before a military did? Yes. What? Yes. That can't be true. Isn't that crazy?

That's beyond crazy. What was Kevlar used for before bullet professed? Yeah, that's a good question. Was it for crashes, I think, or something like that? Something like that. Wow. Yeah, but it's, it's crazy. Because it's not like the first attempt in history, I think it was the first with

Kevlar, you know, because before that, I'm sure they used metal and like, like a night would wear those chain looking like, right? Right. Yeah, I mean, so you can't be walking around that. Yeah. Let's see, uh, Kev, oh wait. So what, how do you say, Kessie Meer, Zeeglin was a Polish engineer born in 1869 near Tarnpool who invented the first Pulu professed. So that was the very first Pulu

professed but not the Kevlar one. Not the Kevlar one. Yeah. Wow. But I just thought that was crazy. That's a guy. No, you never know. That's what I'm thinking like with this whole scare and everything. It's like some people's ideas are going right now crazy and they're trying to invent things. I'm so glad you brought that. And that's the thing, I'm gonna try and bring that for our conversation as some of these positive stories of people that are entrepreneurs

that have pivoted hard and quick and are having success. Talking to an old high school friend of mine, good, good buddy, he was actually talking shit to me. He said that my Dallas Cowboys are the Tiger King of football. Because we just picked up, we just signed Alvin Smith. And if you don't know, Alvin Smith, Alvin Smith has been bounced around from teams because, oh my god, he's got so many. He was actually at David Lee's birthday party that I was at and I met him and he had there was probably, I don't know, 30 or so professional athletes in myself there. When was there,

the agent we just had and he was a total immature kid, asshole, like you could just tell. It made sense why he gets in trouble in the lead so much just by seeing the way he interacted at a really fancy dinner and stuff. So he's teasing me about the Cowboys picking him up and talking to him. And that led me, hey, man, how's your family? You know, how your kids do on house business and that. And he's in the wine industry. And I know that like he's like a wine manager of like one of the biggest napple wines up there.

And he does wine tours and sells. And so I'm thinking, wait a second, that's probably going to be shut down. And he goes, oh, man, I'm over here just making lemonade and I laughed, I said, what are you doing? And he's like, do I do wine tasting virtually now? I just sold actually like five massive cases to a couple, just off the phone about 30 minutes ago. So he's doing,

he's buying descriptors? Yes, yes. So he does virtual wine tasting. He tasted and tells them. Yes, it talks about it and pairs it and does all that to them virtually. And then offers them probably a discount or a good deal on a case of wine and then ships.

Well, for him. Right, and I mean, that didn't even exist before. Nobody was doing that before. Well, no, it didn't actually. It only makes sense now. It didn't make sense before. Right. Wow, that's brilliant.

Right, so I mean, people are probably buying more alcohol. Oh, yeah. Well, we just, if that article just came out that you mentioned before, 51% it's up right now in alcohol sales. So yeah, I mean shit, what a brilliant, I really cool to see people that are proactively doing things like that and having a positive mindset on all this. There's a huge demand right now. I'm telling you right now there's a huge demand if you're listening and you need work in some areas as a huge demand for

people to buy people groceries. You know the pickup I tried to do it and it was like two or three weeks out. And there's a lot of old people out there that are afraid to go to the grocery store. That's a great job to do. You make a little bit of money and you're doing something good for people. You know, I've seen more of those trucks in my complex than I've ever seen before. Like, I've had other days like writing something like healthy food, something. I'm like, wow, I've never seen these guys before. There's so many people that are obviously getting food delivered to their house. I've seen all these new brands I've never seen before. Very cool. This quas brought to you by Organify. For those days you fall short on getting your organic veggies seen before. Very cool. Janify.com. That's O-R-G-A-N-I-F-I.com. And use a coupon code MindPump for 20% off at checkout.

First question is from Barbells and Hussah Fells. What are the best accessory lifts to increase overhead press numbers? Ah, the overhead press. I'll tell you one that had a huge impact on me. One movement or one type of movement in particular, just it really made me, it probably added, I'd say 15 pounds to my overhead press and that's coming from someone who's been working out for a long time. I've been stuck at certain numbers forever. So getting me even to go up five pounds is a big deal.

And those are heavy overhead carries. I knew you were gonna say that. Just pressing something overhead, like a par parodumbels, a barbell, a single plate, kettlebells, straighten my arms out, having good posture. So maintaining that strong tension and then walking for, you know, 20, 30 yards, putting them down, resting, and then repeating because it gave me so much more strength at the top end of my movement where I tend to, I, I, and you're reinforcing that support at that top position, which is everything with the overhead press.

Which yeah, that's a great exercise. I think for me to like adding rotational elements to help then even more sort of bolster that stability in the whole shoulder joint is huge for me. So one of them was like a kettlebell halo. If I'm trying to be a little more relatable, you can do this with like a dumbbell where you're rotating it hole with this and that's where I got into Indian clubs and into mace bells swinging so it's loaded shoulder swings for rotation and it has totally transformed my strength in terms of overhead press and even bench press as well. So, I highly recommend it all the time I'm recommending this. I don't know if you would count this as an accessory lift because it's kind of the same thing, but the two movements that I think I noticed

made a big difference to like the sales point, I've been lifting for a long time. So anytime we get any sort of incremental gains and like the big lifts from doing something, that's a big deal, right? And for me, there was two movements that I wasn't doing, let's say 10 years ago, that I started to do more recently and saw a huge gain in my overhead press. One of those

being the Z-Press, which you've heard me probably tout a million times on the show, which is why I touted all the time, because it made such a big difference. I think that actually speaks to kind of Sal's point, because in the Z Z press, you lock out at the top and you stabilize. And so when I do the Z press, I exaggerate how long I stabilize before I come back down. What I like about that is it gets me to where I'm in a good locked out because it teaches me

great upper body mechanics because you can't cheat it. If you cheat it all, you're gonna fall over to the side. And then I get kind of that isometric hold at the top, which is the benefits that South-Tomba, he gets so the Z press was one of those movements. And then the other one that I never used to do until, actually I started hanging out with Justin, is I never did like a push press,

which allowed me to increase the weight because I got to use a little bit of body English to get the weight up over my head. I came from like a body builder type of a background or way of training you would say, which is very tension based and slow tempo and shortening the range of motion up and seated overhead press.

And that was like the go-to way to build your shoulders. And I really didn't get into like push presses until Justin, but what the push press allowed me to do because I was able to use some legs and body English in the movement. It allowed me to load the bar a good 25, yeah, 25 to 50 more pounds than I was ever able to strict shoulder press on there. And just getting used to moving that much weight over my head and then stabilizing at the top really not only developed my shoulders but increase my shoulder press strength. Yeah, years ago as a kid one exercise that had a huge carry over to my barbell overhead

press was the Arnold press which I learned from watching, you know, from reading, you know, magazines with Arnold Schwarzenegger and I think one of the main reasons why it helped was because it really exaggerated the range of motion. Because I was rotating my hand and bringing the dumbbell down in front of my body, now I'm pressing from a much lower position and getting a full range of motion, now what's even better than an Arnold press? In my opinion, is a kettlebell overhead press,

because it's very similar. Yeah, because you can keep it like relatively close to the body the entire way through because of the way it's loaded and it promotes that nice natural spiral line that you can press your way through. So you get that rotation in your wrist and your elbow and your shoulder all simultaneously. And so it's like your body responds to that to build a nice stable joint there. All right, next question is from Braden Schoots. What are some good strength or mobility moves for the rotator cuff?

Man, back in the day, this was when I first learned about strengthening the muscles of the... Well, so first off, let's go into the rotator cuff. Yeah, what is responsible for? So the cuff itself is a part of the shoulder blade where certain stabilizer muscles attach to that affect the shoulder. So you have these what are called big prime mover muscles. So like you're pressing overhead or you're bench pressing. You're using these big, you know, the big muscles of the shoulders, the front part of

the deltoid, the side, the rear part, rear part, the muscles that make up the deltoid. But there's deeper muscles that control your arms twist, the rotating that happens. So like, let's say I throw a baseball, and I throw a baseball real hard, the muscles that stabilize the shoulder are really what helps slow my arm down, or if I throw a punch, or a frisbee.

Geese your bone and track too, so it keeps everything in the right spot. Right, and so the reason why there's so many issues with the rotator cuff or the muscles that stabilize the shoulders because we tend to work the big muscles, we work the big movements, and we don't strengthen the support system so much.

So then when you go and do an explosive movement or you push really heavy weight, the stabilizer muscles can't keep up with these big muscles. Now I remember when this first happened to me, I was in my teens, I was in my late teens, maybe 17, 18 years old. I'd been working out now for a while and I was starting to get pretty strong. My bench press was getting up there,

overhead press was getting up there, I could do heavy, heavy rows. And I remember that I had the string of kind of shoulder pain where I was, my bench press would go up a little bit and then my shoulder would kind of tweak a little bit and it would go back down. I couldn't figure out what was going on.

And you know, this is back in the late 90s. I used to read bodybuilding magazines. Well, in the back of what are the bodybuilding magazines, there was this device that worked on the rotator cuff. And I think it was called a shoulder horn or something like that. I can't remember what it's called, but it held your arms up. So you put it around your neck and it went around your arms and it held your arms up kind of in this like T position.

And then what you did is you held dumbbells and you rotated back. You flipped them back. And it was the first time it had ever been exposed to a, you know, an external rotating type movement. So I, of course, being a frugal kid, I read that and I said, oh, I can do that without that thing. And I went up to a bench, put my elbow up on the bench,

and I started doing this external rotation with a really light dumbbell. Couldn't believe how much stronger my bench press got almost immediately. Like I did that the following week, my bench press, that was. Like I did that the following week, my bench press, that was stuck forever at whatever weight, went up five or 10 pounds and I was like,

holy cow, this is a really big deal. And since that day, I've incorporated external rotation in my shoulder workouts and many of my shoulder workouts. Now, I'll recommend one that I think is generally easy for most people to do, because some of them I think are more difficult. It's a targeted movement for part of the stabilizer muscles that I think a lot of people tend to have issues with,

and those are the ones that externally rotate, the humerus, so I'll kind of try and break it down here on the podcast. So what you do is you stand with your arm at your side, elbow bent, have a resistance band attached to something, and then just rotate while keeping your elbow bent and stuck to your side, just rotate your hand out and bring it back in. That's a very basic movement, very direct movement on strengthening some of the muscles that I think a lot of people tend to have issues with.

Yeah, I like face pulls too. Like in terms of like emulating a little bit of what you're talking about with the cables. And I use that a lot as a primer, getting into overhead pressing for that specific reason. It's really prime, you know, that, that external rotation. And again, this is, this is where, like, I don't really know any other movement that nails all the different functions and the rotation of the shoulder better than a heart swing.

And I've promoted this ad nauseam on my Instagram because I want people to realize that there's ways to actually exercise these muscles. And you do, those are some very common ones you get from like the physical therapist. Like, if you're injured, you have like a rubber band and you're going to do some extra rotation with it and some abduction and things like that. However, like, taking it through all those different ranges of motion, you know, and then starting to slowly load it.

So loading it to something that's like one to two pounds, but then taking it in. So you basically start in sort of a rack position. So my hands like really close to my chest, and then I'm throwing my arm across my body, getting that rotation to come into extension, and then all the way up, and then kind of behind my back, behind my neck, and then dropping my shoulder down. And it just kind of like seamlessly flows through like all those different points of rotation, which is a great exercise. I'm going to piggyback off of you, Justin, because I think nothing is better than the Indian clubs and the mace bells for this stuff. I think that to what Sal was talking about

and the point that you just made, the only because that was what I used to do for rotator cuff stuff is very staple, you know, standing. It's a key heavy. Yeah, very, and not only is it, it's also in us in the same plane. And the shoulder is one of the most complex joints in the entire body. It's multifaceted, right? It moves in all these different planes. It's very dynamic.

And the reality of it is rarely ever will you ever move your armor shoulder in this exact same plane whenever you do normal things. So you're going to move in multiple, so I like to strengthen and work on the Rotator Club in something that's more dynamic, like Indian clubs or Mace Bell. I think, again, this was something that you Justin really introduced me to and has now become a staple in my routine. Before that, I was like, Sal, I was the kid who found the rotator cuff exercises. I also noticed what a big difference it made on my bench press, not only how much stronger I got and supported it though, but I just didn't hurt as much.

Like I used to always, like my shoulders would kind of bother me all the time, when I would do heavy chest, and when I began to start to start workouts with rotator cuff exercises, I noticed that it would alleviate that, so that was like the big connection for me first with that. And then when I got introduced to the Indian clubs in May, Is belt with Justin,

what I found was, oh, this is really cool. I can, once I got good at those movements, I could just start every kind of upper body. If I was ever doing chest or shoulders, I always, still to this day, start my routine with just a quick little Indian club and Mays Bell warm up. And I've over time gotten stronger and stronger. So I can for me, and I never forget the first time swinging that Mayspell. It was awkward and hard and five pounds of it was weird and the Indian clubs, the super light ones were difficult and challenging. Once I trained that and got really good, now I just got a, I can go grab the 30 pound Mayspell right now cold

and start swinging around no problem or the heavier Indian clubs we have, I can get right into it because I've done a good job of keeping that up and my shoulders have never felt so good and it doesn't take a lot of work and effort if I just concluded into my routine. And it's important because I mean, if you're like me and you know, you're trying to throw the ball with your kids, you know, or whatever it is. Like, you'd be very surprised if you haven't done it for years or decades, and you've always since started throwing a ball again, like, what kind of aches and pains and things are going to come out of that. And so to keep that in your routine is paramount to then keep you functional and keep you active in

your everyday life. Totally. And I'll give you one that you can go on our YouTube channel and look up, and we have a good video on handcuffs with rotations. It's a great shoulder movement. It works the shoulder through a pretty full range of motion. And unless you're injured, it's a great movement that you can do, priming movement that'll maintain good health of the shoulders.

And again, we have a really good video on our YouTube channel, Mind Pump TV. Next question is from Nathaniel L. Watson. How long do you stick with exercises before switching to new ones? Boy, I guess this depends on the exercise, I would say. Certain movements that are in consistent, regular rotation in my routine include a deadlift, squat, a split stance squat of some type, like a lunch overhead presses are always in there. Barbell rows are almost always in there.

So those movements are ones that I think you can always do. You probably should always do, they're very complex. They use a lot of muscles. You're constantly getting better at them. It's easy to find weaknesses in each of them. So, there's ways to improve. Other exercises that I do that I throw in and out tend to be a lot of the isolation movements. I was just going to say cable machine exercises. Those are mixed in match. You know, those ones I don't necessarily stick to too long for any length of period time. Those big compound movements, those are ones that they're always in rotation.

So I almost never really take them out unless I feel like I overdid something. Like I took dead lifts out for about four weeks because I needed to work on my unilateral strength. But then I threw them back in and they're consistent again. But the isolation stuff, I mixed those up quite a bit. The way I look at it is, like, all machine and cable exercises, I never do the same ones longer than two or three weeks straight. Right?

So if I'm on my favorite preacher-croll machine or my favorite shoulder press machine or check the chest fly on, I won't ever do that exercise if it's machine or cables longer than probably two or three weeks in my routine before I move it out or exchange it with a different movement. But a lot of your dumbbell and barbell compound lifts, you know, and I'm trying to like rack my brain right now like something like just what I would move out of my routine. Stay in my routine, just variations happen, right? So like, let's say, you know, a bench press, barbell bench press, well, you know, if I've

been doing flat barbell bench press for three weeks, then I moved to incline barbell bench press. Or, you know, if I've been doing, I did that then incline, then maybe after, so the first three weeks I'm doing barbell bench press and the next three weeks, I'm doing incline barbell bench press. And the next three is that I'm doing, I'll go back to flap and now I do dumbbells.

You know, dumbbells of a flat bench press and then I kind of rotate through like that. So there's staple moves that I think belong in most everybody's routine. I mean, there's always exceptions to the rule on somebody that probably should be focused more on corrective exercise or they have very specific goals, like performance goals. I guess that's different. But for the average person who's just trying to be healthy, trying to be strong, trying to build muscle, trying to lose body fat. The big compound lifts should always be a foundation in your routines and maybe just variations.

Cause we can squat like 10 different ways. I mean, you could search for, you could front squat, you could back those squat, you could do low bar, you could do high bar, you could do narrow stance, you could do wide stance, and that's all a squat. It's all a barbell squat. But it's done seven different ways and variations that will create some sort of novelty

for the body and create new stimulus in a sense for it. So, but it's such a good move that you don't want to eliminate. Well, I think the thing you have to communicate to most people that is so important is those lifts are so valuable that you've got to just be careful. First of all, getting people to all do them is the first step as a trainer, we're always trying to communicate that.

And then what you don't want to do is eliminate those things for some cool new machine that hits your gym. Because it's cool and it's new. Yeah, and I think as I've gotten older, I've definitely reduced the amount of novelty substantially. I used to want to try all the new suspension trainers out there, I wanna try that whatever new machine was gonna provide like a new stimulus for me,

but for the most part, like all I am conscious of now is like I need to switch over from, you know, back loaded barbell squats to front loaded, you know. When do I do that appropriately? Like when have I, you know, has it been a couple months since I've really hit my front squats and really worked on that? And then the other thing that I'm always conscious of is, you know, how long I've been bilaterally

training and not including, you know, the other planes and rotating enough or moving side to side. And so what provides a good way to do that is, is a lot of unilateral training or focusing on that for a few weeks. And so I use that more as an interruptor when I really start to kind of feel the aches and pains, the tightness start to creep up on me a bunch.

That's usually an indicator for me that I'm gonna now kind of switch over into more unilateral training. Next question is from Amber Bonda 915, should Jim still be charging trainers rent to train clients while the gym is mandated closed? Dude, we had a, did we, was this a question or were we just talking about it on our quality

of the day with the 24th fitness thing? That wasn't a call. That was a question. Okay, so did you guys get, did you guys get DMs from people after that? No. Oh, okay, I got a bunch after that. Oh, yeah, and people that work there still right and they actually sent me the the email in the link So 25th and it's just like yesterday the day before so obviously it's news It's probably ways didn't get a bunch it just happened like two days ago

24th in this did send an email finally in response to the them not letting go people's memories because that's what that was what we talked about Right, so we brought up that 24-hour fitness was, they weren't answering their phones, they weren't allowing people to cancel memberships. Well, eventually they've got a message that was like, that said something like they're gonna extend their membership. Yeah, yeah, and that's exactly what that was originally. It's still a cop out.

Yeah, that's stupid, right? What does that mean? And who knows how long this is gonna last and like, you're just gonna keep building me for if this is three or six months down the road and I haven't used a gym, that's stupid. Yeah. What does that mean? And who knows how long this is gonna last? And like, what you're just gonna keep building me for if this is three or six months down the road and I haven't used a gym, that's ridiculous, right? So they did obviously respond. I'm sure they got just totally lambasted for doing this.

And now they're allowing you to cancel your membership online, which they didn't do before, you'd have to call into this. So, right? So that was their response. So I go in my email that my membership is attached to. I find this email, there's a direct link goes, I go to the link, okay.

And are your membership number, which is also your phone number, same thing, and then your birthday. So unless I don't know my own phone number and my birthday, I don't know, it kicks me to an air page. It's like, oh, it says that either my birthday or my membership number is incorrect.

Wait, wait, wait, what do you mean? So if you don't, well, of course you're going to know those things. Of course, of course. And it's, you know, when you go to about 24, you punch in the phone number. It's my phone number. Right. So the same one I've had since I was freaking 17. Right. So I know that for sure.

And I'm pretty confident my birthday is tattooed on me. And I'm saying like, then it doesn't match up. You know, so it said that for sure, and I'm pretty confident, my birthday's tattooed on me, and I'm saying, and it doesn't match up. So it said that for you? Yeah, I put in an air in, and so I can't cancel online. So I gotta now go. It said it didn't match up for you. Yes, weird.

That's what I said. That's what I thought that was really interesting that like, okay, this is funny. Like they did a response, but then I go to cancel, and it looked like they were gonna make it easy, but then I go to cancel and it looks like they were going to make it easy. But now I got it. And then it says, if you're getting an error page, please go here, email this person. And I'm like, oh, presenting the illusion of making it easy.

Yeah. So anyways, I know that has nothing to do with this question, really. But that was on my mind when this came up. Well, with this question here, I have mixed feelings over it. So I know how I would handle this. Yeah, I've owned, you know, I own the Personal Training Studio with trainers who all paid me rent.

One thing you have to understand is that the owner of the gym also has to pay bills and rent as well. So he may, here she may have closed the gym, but he or she still has to pay bills and rent as well. So he may, he or she may have closed the gym, but he or she still has to pay rent to the, you know, to the complex or whatever. They still have to pay their lease. So their bills aren't being stopped. So that's probably why they're still charging you

as a trainer, even though you're not training clients. Now it all feels unfair, but here's the deal. If everybody stopped paying, then when it was reopened, then you might not have a job at all. Now, here's how I would handle it. I would call every single one of my trainers and have that conversation. And I would tell them, and I'd be very transparent. I would say, look, here's what's going on. Here's what the bills look like. I can't afford to run this with everybody paying zero. I know normally you pay X amount of dollars just to be able to have the doors remain open

when it's time to go back. I need at least this much. So instead of paying me your normal X amount of dollars, here's what I'm gonna charge you guys. And this is just what I need to keep the doors open. That's the kind of conversation that I would have because I think that goes a long way. Now, here's a deal. If you can't pay it, you can't pay it. You know, he hears she can't force you either. You may be in contract, but good luck coming after you, you know, after a time like this. But what, that's a tough situation.

No, that isn't, you know, I, it'd be interesting to have to reach out to our friend Scott over at Red Dot, because obviously this is right in his wheelhouse and he's dealing with this right now, where he had a shutdown, his facility. But I also know they're doing a lot of things in response to this. So I agree with you, Sal, and how I would feel about it

as a trainer, I guess, how upset I would or would not be would be on how much the owner is also helping me come up with ways to continue to make revenue. Right. Like I believe over at Red Dot, I believe that they're still creating virtual classes and like, you know, so they're creating things that is allowing these coaches to still interact with the community, to keep things going.

So if they're playing a big role in allowing you either one to still use a facility for access like that, or you have connection to their community that they have created. So if they're doing things like that that are still helping you somewhere, I do see a lot of value in supporting them and helping them. Maybe that's at a reduced rate or maybe it's a for it.

I don't know that really would depend on how much I'm being impacted by it. But if I can pivot as a trainer, start to go virtual and they're assisting me my ability to do that. And it pretty much guarantees that if I keep paying that, that they'll still be able to have their doors open in 60 or 90 days, I think I feel better

about writing that check every single month. Yeah, it's a tough situation because sometimes I think we just think of fairness so we think, well, it's not fair that I'm having to pay this bill, even though I'm not. Right, but who's at the biggest risk is to is another thing.

Well, I mean, everybody, you know, it goes up the chain. Like, okay, you pay him or her, rant, they have to pay their rant. Now the complex has to pay their mortgage, you know, whatever, and their tax is. And so it just, it goes up the chain. So it's not as easy as being like, oh, hey, everybody, you know, don't pay,

don't worry about it. Cause you still wanna have a place to come back to too. So like you said earlier, it's really, it's a transparent conversation of like, you know, are you willing to help? What can I do to then keep your business going while nobody's allowed in here? That's right.

You need to be a conversation. And in my opinion, that conversation needs to be initiated by the owner of the gym. Now, if the owner of the gym isn't having this conversation with you, then the next best person is you. You call them up and say, look, here's a deal. I'm not training any clients obviously right now. It's gonna, I don't think I can afford to pay the full amount

every single month while you're closed. Can we work something out? Because I don't wanna leave when afford to pay the full amount every single month while you're closed. Can we work something out? Because I don't wanna leave, when it's time to reopen, I wanna be able to come back, I'm not trying to leave. I just can't afford to pay because I'm not collecting any money for my clients. Now your responsibility is to initiate that conversation. Although I think the best person would have been.

Well, in this too, maybe it's something that could work out later when they're more thriving and profitable a couple of months later, that could come back to back pay it or whatever. You could work something interesting. Look, I had people in my gym or my studio that would have paying me consistently rent for 10 plus years, consistently.

Now that's a lot. I mean, the retention, we talk all the time about client retention, the trainer retention rate for a private studio is terrible. It's very bad. It's hard to find trainers who can build their business, maintain building their own business in a studio. You worked in studios just, you know, like you were probably the only ones that were there.

I was the one and the only consistent ones that remained, you know, there, you were probably one of the only ones that were there. I was the one of the only consistent ones that remained, you know, like, there was people coming in and out all the time. It's very hard. So I would have trainers and massage therapists that were in my studio that would, every, you know, not often, but they'd come to me and I, because I had this open, you know,

conversation and relationship with them, they'd come to me and say, look, here's what's happening. It's gonna be kind of rough this month. What do you think you can do? And I would work things out with them and with that, ended up what's happening, it's gonna be kind of rough this month, what do you think you can do? And that would work things out with them, and with that ended up giving me was incredible loyalty. You didn't wanna go to any other studio

because I had them feel that way. So I think this is a conversation that needs to be had, and if the owner's not calling you and talking you about it, okay, that kinda sucks, but the next best thing, you have that conversation and then take it from there. And with that, go to minepumpfree.com, download all of our guides, resources, and books,

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