Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1269: The Best Overall Cardio Machine, How to Workout With Kids at Home, the Best Measure of Physical Fitness & More

Episode Date: April 11, 2020

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about the most beneficial cardio machine for workouts, how to help a loved one correct their form without discouraging th...em, adjustments to MAPS Anywhere when working out with children, and the best way to measure someone’s physical fitness. Justin’s inappropriate comment. (5:10) Strange times out there. (7:19) How is selling alcohol considered essential? (11:04) In this current climate is promoting decriminalization of weed a good idea? (12:09) Will there be a rise in prostitution? (18:58) Is shaking hands over? (20:57) Did COVID-19 come to California in the Fall of 2019? (22:44) Magic Spoon will continue to donate boxes of cereal to NYC Food Banks. (30:15) The many CEOs that have given up their salaries during COVID-19. (32:15) Sal’s mobility realization, the importance of communicating the value of something & MORE. (34:05) The ancient athletes, their historical records and the evolution of the modern athlete. (39:15) #Quah question #1 – I want to get a machine for cardio. Between the treadmill, elliptical, rower or bike. What machine would be the most beneficial for workouts, HIIT and overall health? (44:00) #Quah question #2 – My dad started working out again, but he has terrible form. I don’t want him to hurt himself, but I don’t want to discourage him either. How can I help him? (51:03) #Quah question #3 – My kids and I have using MAPS Anywhere. It allows me to get my workouts in and teach them a few things about exercise. What adjustments, if any, do you recommend to program for children? (52:41) #Quah question #4 – Are fitness tests, such as the standard 2.4-kilometer run, 1-minute AMRAP pushups and sit-up's, a good measure of someone’s physical fitness or are there better tests? (1:00:38) Related Links/Products Mentioned April Promotion: MAPS Prime/Prime Pro ½ off! **Code “PRIME50” at checkout** Special Promotion: MAPS Anywhere ½ off!! **Code “WHITE50” at checkout** Map of Marijuana Legality by State You Won't Believe How Much These States Have Made Since Legalizing Marijuana Dr. Fauci insists he's 'somewhat serious' about not shaking hands ever again Study investigates if COVID-19 came to Calif. in fall 2019 Most New York Coronavirus Cases Came From Europe, Genomes Show Cases in U.S. | CDC Red Dot Fitness Antibody Test Visit Magic Spoon for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Coronavirus prompts these CEOs to give up their salaries Jack Dorsey says he's pledging $1 billion to help fight the coronavirus outbreak 7 Ancient Sports Stars - HISTORY Are athletes really getting faster, better, stronger? Are You Strong? | T Nation Mind Pump Free Resources  People Mentioned Dr. Becky Campbell (@drbeckycampbell)  Instagram

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Starting point is 00:00:00 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Saldas Defenow, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this episode of Mind Pump, look, you're listening to the top fitness and health and entertainment podcast in the world. And what we do in this episode is we answer fitness and health questions asked by our audience. But the way we open the episode is with our introductory conversations where we talk about current events. Sometimes we mention our sponsors and we just have a lot of general fun with our conversation. So here's what went down in this episode. We start out by talking about
Starting point is 00:00:40 Justin's inappropriate comment yesterday. Yeah. The camp myself. On the live IG story with Dr. Becky Campbell. He talked about how armed robbers were in his neighborhood. That's kind of scary. Adam talked about how maybe the current atmosphere may be promoting the mass legalization of weed. We talked about Dr. Fauci and how he said, maybe we should stop shaking hands. I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:01:07 I don't think that's good. Come on, guy. I talked about the article in the San Francisco gate that is, there may be theorizing that the coronavirus was here in California all the way back into fall of 2019. Interesting. Which would kind of make sense.
Starting point is 00:01:21 And then we talked about how we're going to go do our antibody tests here in a little bit. We also talked about how in New York, the coronaviruses there seem to be rooted from Europe. And then we mentioned our sponsor, Magic Spoon, and how they're donating boxes of cereal to people who need it. Now, Magic Spoon makes high protein,
Starting point is 00:01:44 very low sugar cereal, and it tastes like kids cereal. They're flying off the shelves. Obviously, people are stuck at home right now. They want to comfort themselves with tasty food. And a lot of people want to make a better choice though when they do it. Magic spoon is a good choice.
Starting point is 00:01:59 The protein is from way protein. Again, it's high in protein, and they have flavors like the fruity, the o's and blueberry and chocolate. I mean, it's high in protein and they have flavors like, you know, the fruity, the o's and blueberry and chocolate. I mean, it's really, really good stuff. Here's how you go and get yourself a box of magic spoon and get a discount because you're a mind pump listener. Go to magic spoon.com forward slash mind pump. You will get a discount and free shipping. By the way, there's 100% happiness guarantee. If you don't like the serial return it for a full refund, make sure you use the code, mine pump.
Starting point is 00:02:30 Just then then talked about the CEO from Marriott, how much he's donating. Adam went over the top with Jack Dorsey and how he's donating more. The one upper. I talked about my mobility realization. Then we talked about ancient adilites and their performance. Then we got into answering the fitness questions.
Starting point is 00:02:48 First question, this person is looking to get a machine for cardio. They want to know which one they should choose. The treadmill, elliptical, rower, and bike. We talk about the benefits of each. Next question, this person's dad has started working out again, but it's got terrible form. How can they be helped? So we talked about the importance of mobility and correctional exercise training. The next question, this person has access to our at home workout program maps anywhere,
Starting point is 00:03:15 but they also have kids and they want to know what exercises in the program. The kids can do. By the way, maps anywhere during this quarantine period of time, we put it 50% off. It's one of our best workout programs that requires just resistance bands, a broomstick, and maybe a pull-up bar. So very, very minimal equipment, very effective. This program is going to be half off until things are settled down. The code for that is white 50. That's the word white and the number 50. So make sure you go check that out.
Starting point is 00:03:46 And the final question, this person is asking about fitness tests, things like a, you know, 2.4 kilometer run, amrap, pushups and sit-ups and stuff like that. Like, are they really good measures of people's overall fitness? Also, this month, all month long, maps prime and maps prime pro are both 50% off.
Starting point is 00:04:10 Now, maps prime takes you through an assessment. It's a self-assessment tool, and it helps you design your warm-ups for your workout, or we like to call them priming sessions because they're far more than just warm-ups. They help you connect to the right muscles, establish good form, activate more muscle fibers. Essentially, if you do a good priming session
Starting point is 00:04:29 to whatever workout you're doing now, you're gonna get better results. Now, maps prime pro is about correctional exercise. So what you do is you go in the program, you identify the joints of your body that need help, that need extra work, the areas that you think you need better mobility, your hips, your ankles, your wrists, your shoulders, your spine, whatever, find those areas, follow
Starting point is 00:04:49 Maps Prime Pro to work on mobility and get tremendous progress. Both those programs 50% off, here's how you get the discount. Go to mapsfitnessproducts.com and use the code prime50, that's P-R-I-M pr i m e five zero no space for the discount so yesterday i was on dr becky Campbell's live i g story yes and uh we know she she want to ask me questions about you know exercising at home how to stay fit without equipment mindset
Starting point is 00:05:21 we had a really good conversation love her she's such a personable funny just great uh great person. She's got a great following too. Those great questions. But anyway, so we're talking. Just he Justin's comment. I didn't. I did. I did drop in one point though. And I saw him say that I when I came in, he said, okay, I gotta get out of here because of too many people are asking him stuff. No, so just in pop song. And he goes, because Becky's talking to me, right? So she's whatever.
Starting point is 00:05:50 And so he puts, wow, your hair is so long and sexy and does the heart face or whatever? Yeah, yeah, to sal. Right? But I didn't say sal. Yeah. So she got all like, so bluster, the per second.
Starting point is 00:06:05 Dr. Campbell, as I'm talking, she sees his comment and what he said and she starts laughing and she goes, I can't concentrate. She starts blushing, you know? And Justin was directing it towards me. Yeah. I was like, I pulled an atom on that one.
Starting point is 00:06:21 I'll have to go back and listen to it. Doug, you'll have to get on the mic for a second because Justin sounds like he's far away. Yeah, I'm not I came here myself. That's okay. Nobody cares See all this good. Oh my god. There I am. Thank God. This is the way we're doing it now Guys I'm in outer space It's not forget about me. Yeah, I just sounded like you were way far away We're just testing it out. See if we get more download. You know, you got to try it all you guys. We try it without you. It wouldn't pretty well. Yeah. Yeah. That was the most downloaded episode right? Just at least. Yeah. It was the worst. It was the worst. You can't make a cake without the eggs, the milk, and the flower.
Starting point is 00:07:03 That's the bottom line. Okay. You're the, well, you're the widest. It's probably the flour. Okay, yeah, I'm gonna ask you sometimes. Yeah, so I'm the eggs because you're allergic to them. I'm not the milk. Yeah, no, bro. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:16 Yeah, milky milk. Whatever, we make cake. Hey, what happened last night, bro? It went in your ghetto. Bro. Oh, it's not the ghetto. It's like, it's seriously like, so so much random things happen every now and then. So if you go a mile away, there's this whole complex.
Starting point is 00:07:33 You have Safeway, you have CVS, you have liquor stores, so all the essential places, right? So apparently, well, okay, first of all, after the whole thing, I was watching Sal on his live story and everything, I'm like sitting there, I'm like, you know, doing work on the computer and all of a sudden, look outside and there's trucks zipping back and forth at the top of my road with like sirens flashing,
Starting point is 00:07:58 all this stuff, Courtney had just left to go to take our little puppy to the vet to get the last shots. And she was like, oh my God, are you seeing this? This is crazy, like all this, I just saw a bunch of guys outside this truck with these huge assault rifles and everything out, looking around for people. And I was like, oh my God, what's happening now? Now, be honest, are you at that moment thinking yourself
Starting point is 00:08:23 like, Marshall Art started. 100 Lakers. Yeah, dude. I got moment thinking yourself like, oh, oh, martial art started. 100. A lot of years. I got outside my house. I went up to the road and then I saw and they were like, you know, everybody was moving frantically, you know, and they were like going out and looking in the bushes and then, you know, a guy kind of caught my eye and then I was like, Oh, I'm going back in the house.
Starting point is 00:08:42 I ran back in the house and like, I found out later people were texting, I guess, Word spread out that somebody had held up a CVS down the road by gunpoint. So it was like running around, you know, with like carrying like a handgun. And so they were like trying to chase them through all these like forests and everything. And he made his way into like my neighborhood
Starting point is 00:09:05 And so I was like oh shit like locking them my doors up and everything You know what the neighbors see this is when I wish I I was faster with my reply on your text because Adam How funny would it have been if he said that and you said the same thing and all of us like me too Yeah, they're thanking my door bro Yeah, it was like white try and I didn't even I don't know if these were Rangers or I'm gonna tell my husband, they're begging you on my door bro. I lost my shit dude. Yeah, it was like white triton, I didn't even, I don't know if these were Rangers or what, they weren't regular cops
Starting point is 00:09:31 because we did have sheriffs because what's cool to you about my area just to give it credit is that the end of the road there's like a sheriff station. So it's like right next to the furry place, right? Yeah, right next to the furries where they all meet and can be and eat at a bowl. Yeah, that's the the furries where they all meet and convene and eat at a bowl. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:09:45 yeah, that's the Santa Cruz for it. But yeah, like, so I feel relatively safe where I live, like, typically, but these were trucks I've never seen before. It looked like almost like unmarked government trucks and, you know, who are these guys with like huge assault rifles and everything? And this was all for a grocery store robbery. Or what was it? Yes, a CVS robbery. How much money you're gonna get at a robbing a CVS? I know, right? I would think, okay, right now, because everybody's wearing masks,
Starting point is 00:10:14 that this would be like, stop. Yes, stop. It's not urgent. It's not urgent. I'm just saying that somebody has to think this way, right? Like if you're a criminal, and you're like, I was thinking about robbing a grocery store anyways. You see the walk-in, right? Right now, you're a criminal, and you're like, I was thinking about robbing a grocery store anyways.
Starting point is 00:10:25 You see the walk-in? Right, right now. I'm asking gloves. Right, my mask. I can't get my prints. Exactly. My mask, my gloves. I think about this.
Starting point is 00:10:33 All the security that's normally like he's mad at it. All the security that's normally like allotted to like the whole shopping center is just like the essential stores. There's only like one or two stores open. So it's like, they're ready for that. You know, this is the only time though in history that somebody could walk in with a full mask
Starting point is 00:10:50 on their face and kitchen rubber gloves and that's normal. And you wouldn't even bat an eye right now. Right? So you can probably get right to where you need to. I'm going to take my slipknot mask and go down and get some groceries. That might get, so you brought something, you just said something right now that I've been meaning to bring up on the show because I wanted to hear you guys's opinion on this. And I find this really interesting
Starting point is 00:11:08 that amongst all this shutdown and shelter in place and businesses having to close, right? That's been just crippling for so many people, right? Why and how, okay? And I don't understand why people aren't in an uproar about this. How did liquor stores become essential? Yeah, they sell some food.
Starting point is 00:11:31 I think it's because they sell some food. Yeah. They sell water, is it because they fall under grocery store? Is that, what a bullshit loophole? Yeah, that's a slippery loophole. What a bullshit loophole. I think if you just sold pure alcohol. The only person who buys water and food from the liquor store
Starting point is 00:11:49 are the people going there to buy liquor. They go, oh, hey, I need some fucking food for the banger. Yeah. What do you, what do you, a millionaire doing your grocery shopping at the 7-11? Yeah. They got lines. You know, it's produce.
Starting point is 00:11:59 Yeah. No, I think it's because they sell other stuff, you know. But hey, man, someone might consider it essential, you know what I'm saying? Oh, I don't know. No, I don't know. I mean, it's a way to survive this whole thing. I had another theory to do.
Starting point is 00:12:09 We pull this up because this will either, yeah. Yeah, make sure it's not an April Fool's joke. We don't want to fall for it, dude. Shut up. It's gonna be a lot. I'm still getting more of those. You know, people are always like, like an episode or two behind that,
Starting point is 00:12:21 it drives me crazy, I have to remember that, like, because I'm still getting DMs about that. Hey, you idiot, you know, I'm like, you're with them. Yes drives me crazy. I have to remember that like, because I'm still getting DMs about that. Hey, you idiot. You know, I'm like, you're with him. Yes. I know. Come on. You never fallen for it?
Starting point is 00:12:31 Yeah, they got me and I already admitted that. I got pumped already. Okay, I don't need fucking 500 DMs that remind me too. Uh, yeah. I don't know where we're at right now, because I don't follow this like I used to. Where is legalization for marijuana across United States? How many states are are legal for recreation? Yes, because I think I think if there is anything
Starting point is 00:12:55 that may fast track this to go all the way across United States and that actually has the potential to drive enough tax revenue dollars would be almost every state would be smart to get on that as fast as they could and legalize it and tax it. Why do you think this would motivate that? Because we're all gonna be in a shit storm when this is with us. Oh, you mean financial?
Starting point is 00:13:15 Yeah, financial. So look at that. So more than half the country still has not legalized. So there's a huge opportunity. Well, there's only one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine states that have recreational marijuana being legalized. And then there's an additional, I don't know what that looks like, ten states of medical. So you could super conservative states.
Starting point is 00:13:37 And no. And we know, I mean, Doug, this would be another great stat to pull up right now. How many, how many tax dollars from marijuana for California loan, right? Oh, that's a lot. Yeah, right. So while Doug's looking this up, just think about that for a second.
Starting point is 00:13:52 Can you think of a single thing that could help boost the economy after COVID-19? How strong is that? As strong as that. Oh, yeah. That's not, that leaves a nice cooking. Right, that's, that's, was, well, yeah. One, you asked me,
Starting point is 00:14:03 one step at a time, one step at a time guy. But California has a first thing. There's not gonna be more raves or parties. Yeah, I mean, so then what are you gonna do? No, I really, I think you're gonna see this. I think this isn't like
Starting point is 00:14:15 on the only one that could be thinking about this. If you are a governor right now and you are looking at your state bleeding right now and you haven't legalized marijuana and it's kind of inevitable that we're going this way and everyone's gonna be and maybe you were a conservative state that was kind of fighting it for now. This is what this might be though. So here, here, California has a ready answer. California's raised one billion in cannabis revenue two years after launched in the legal market.
Starting point is 00:14:42 So a billion dollars in two years. Legit, right? Yeah, that's a decent amount. Well, here's, okay, I'm gonna counter that. I think with the current state of affairs, it might be a terrible, you know, reason or time for more people to smoke weed. Oh my gosh.
Starting point is 00:14:59 It's already happening. You can't every, the weed places that are open. The most paranoid, terrible. Yeah, oh my gosh. Yeah, but depending on every the weed places that are open the most paranoid I know yeah, oh my god. Yeah, but it's depending on the strain I guess right now if you try and go to a local cannabis store I mean I was driven back to the black market because you can't get anything right now Yeah, you can't get anything in in California, which we we got them on every corner
Starting point is 00:15:18 Almost driven the black market. Yeah, yeah, wink wink. Yeah Your back will close shot out to all the local drug dealers out there that are still putting out good shit. Hey, thanks Mike Smith for delivering me. Hey, Mike, Mikey. Yeah. Come get me for an ounce of reason. What a brown baby.
Starting point is 00:15:34 What a brown baby. Yeah, no, I think you're right. I think they're gonna start to try to come up with creative ways to either come up with ways to raise taxes or just continue doing what they're doing which is print money and throw it up. To me, this is in my opinion, me, this is, in my opinion, and I can't wait to have conversation tomorrow. To me, this is one of the smartest ways. One of the worst things that we can do that people are okay with is just infusing money out of nowhere, printing money and just pumping it into our
Starting point is 00:16:00 economy. It's another tax. It's a false signal that we're doing better. Well, it's technically it's another tax because the taxing something that is already in existence and primarily on the black market right now is a fucking great thing right now. If somebody wants it, sure. Yeah. Now the problem that just don't tax us.
Starting point is 00:16:18 Now the problem that I'll talk about California, California sees marijuana legal legalizes it, and says, let's tax the shit out of it. And that just ensures that you have a vibrant black market. It does, and I agree with you. They need to be smart about it. Okay, so here's the thing though, you're right, and it does, but it still opened the market up.
Starting point is 00:16:39 There's still, the reason why it's generated a billion dollars in two years is because there's a clear line of people. People like me who have been around cannabis for a long time recognize what good weed is and knows it. I'm not going to pay fucking $45 for some shit. Do they have a name for that? Do they have Somalia for wines?
Starting point is 00:17:00 Do they have one for Wheaties? Connoisseur? Yeah. Weed Connoisseur. Yeah, yeah. Or a master grower. Master grower.ies? Connoisseur? Yeah, wheat connoisseur. That's it? Or a master grower? Master grower, wheat connoisseur. Yeah, you get a better name. Stoner. No, that's a terrible name for it.
Starting point is 00:17:09 That's perfect. And then you have people like my aunt, our grandmother, who've never messed with it, but because it's become legalized and they've heard good things that it could help relieve anxiety or help them with their sleeping, they feel safe going into a club. They most certainly are not calling Mike Smith to come deliver to their house. No.
Starting point is 00:17:29 You know, so. So those are tax dollars that we are collecting, that we would never would have collected before now, that, and I think there's, and that's a result of those billions of years, but you're right. It still has driven a market for people. If they really want to raise a lot of time,
Starting point is 00:17:43 what they do is they tax it appropriately and open it up so that more places can sell cannabis. So that more places can, it's available easier because they make it a little bit difficult to get to and to buy. So if they really want to raise a lot of money, if they do it the right way, they'll get way more money.
Starting point is 00:18:02 But I think the way that they're doing it now, they're raising money, but they're losing money. Because there's a very vibrant black market that still exists for people who don't want to spend, they don't want a 40% increase in the price of their product and they can buy it so easily from the guy over here. It's like New York City with their cigarettes. You have a black mark, you have a vibrant black market
Starting point is 00:18:22 for cigarettes, you think to yourself, that sounds crazy, it's because New York tax is the shit out of their, their cigarette. I mean, at the end of the day, you're right, and it's not perfect, but it's still, it's still significantly better than what's going on. It's better than, it's better than a state that is illegal. It's an entire black market. At least, let's collect a billion dollars.
Starting point is 00:18:40 You know what I'm saying? It could be, it could be two billion, and if you do it right, but I'll take a billion dollars to state. I mean, if that were to happen, it might actually braze us out of this when we're done. And I bet you, there's gonna be a, I bet you're gonna see that map that dug pulled up. I think you're gonna see it get colored blue a lot faster.
Starting point is 00:18:57 I think there's gonna be a rise in prostitution. I know this might be a little controversial. Whoa. I'm just speculating right now. Yeah. You mean in legalized prostitution or just a rise in general? Just general. Whoa. I'm just speculating right now. Yeah. You mean in legalized prostitution or just a right general? Just general. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:09 You know what? I mean, I just, I think it's slowing down. I fear that, you know, some people are going to resort to like the only thing they can think of to make money if they're in a desperate situation. Oh, I see what you're saying. I think it's slowing down because for the fans only pages, like I really do.
Starting point is 00:19:24 I think that has helped a lot. It is, it is the, and I think. That has helped a lot. It is, it is the, and I'm probably gonna offend some people. Everybody. Yeah, I'm not everybody. Come on. Lots of people.
Starting point is 00:19:32 Not even lots of people. There's a percentage of people listening that have fans only pages. Everybody else that enjoys them, they don't give a fuck, right? So if you're somebody who, cause they're popping up like crazy. Oh, they are.
Starting point is 00:19:42 And, you know, they're making some good money right now. If you are... Yeah, but I think it's such a terrible long-term strategy. Well, I do. I mean, by no means am I condoning it or I'm pro-it or I think it's a great business model, but it's a hustle, just like prostitution kind of is, right? So, like the best business strategy long term for a family.
Starting point is 00:20:02 No, right? But it is a hustle. And it's like one of the oldest trades, you know, ever. And you're able to hustle now online and not even put yourself at risk. You know, you can... But do you think that that is going to... Like, do you think, for example, pornography reduced prostitution? Because now there's more access to videos and pictures?
Starting point is 00:20:21 I don't necessarily think they're the same thing. I don't necessarily think like people who want to see videos of women to webcam I don't think that necessarily is the same thing is unless that the girl is using the webcam You know fans only page in order to get really good clients that she then can you know they can spend provides more high-end Services. Yeah, they could get the platinum package that includes, you know, you know We look into that yeah, you know, you know, we hang out together. We looked into that. Yeah, and see what happens.
Starting point is 00:20:47 It's just, yeah, Justin didn't generate very much revenue for us. No, I'm just looking at my options. We had to pick again. Yeah. No, it's weird because then you also see a doctor Fauci, what he said about like shaking hands, like basically, yeah, no more shaking hands going forward from here on out. No, like that was like his statement. Dude, what are you going to do? You're not going to shake hands. That means you can't hug people. That means you're hands going forward from here on out. Like that was like his statement. Dude, what are you gonna do?
Starting point is 00:21:06 You're not gonna shake hands. That means you can't hug people. That means you're not gonna have sex with people. That's what I'm doing. Come on, man. We've had illnesses in pandemics since the beginning of time. Humans need touch.
Starting point is 00:21:18 We need to touch each other. It's just, it's a part of being healthy. I think that's crazy. Although it does bring something interesting up, Doug had mentioned, and I wonder if there's any truth to this, he said, you know, I wonder if the Japanese came up with bowing because of maybe a long time ago. All of that.
Starting point is 00:21:37 That's interesting. That's an interesting thought. Yeah, yeah. I don't know, I like the handshake. You know, you can, you can connect with someone, you can instantly, you know, Yeah, but you're not doing it right now. But you're not handshaking right now.
Starting point is 00:21:49 No, no, yeah, yeah. I mean, that's what are the safe ones, like saluting, bowing. I do this. You know, head nods, yeah. You know, oh, dude, that's gonna come back. Yeah, that's, you know, I've been doing that for a long time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you look kind of like that. I heard my neck the other day.
Starting point is 00:22:04 I went too fast. No, I don't want to do that. I don't think I don't think they need to they need to do all that. I think right now, sure, but then again, how many people are you meeting right now in person? Nobody. Yeah, nobody. I've had no out of the three of us who's watching still because I honestly have I I went on when we were in Tahoe, right? For those two, like every morning. Every morning. That was a ritual, had coffee, we watched the news, we listened to Trump talk, all of that. I've completely just, I've stopped now for almost, I would say seven to 10 days, I've completely just stopped. Well, so I dramatically reduced how much I follow,
Starting point is 00:22:38 but I still follow a little bit. An interesting article was published in the San Francisco, what is it? The San Francisco date or the Chronicle. That very, very interesting. So the article is theorizing, so I don't know if you guys knew this, but Stanford did a huge study here in the Bay Area like a week ago. So Stanford set up a station. I think it was at the Sonopar
Starting point is 00:23:05 if I'm mistaken. Oh, and they signed up a bunch of people and they tested for antibodies. I think they did something like three or four thousand tests. I don't know this. Yeah. And they want to just test everybody, not just people who had symptoms or whatever. And what they're trying to figure out was population, you know, infection rate. Because there, we know that there's a lot of people without symptoms that can be carriers of the virus. And so we're trying to figure this out. And the reason why this is so important in California
Starting point is 00:23:33 is because right now infectious disease experts are really scratching their heads as to why California, the most populous state in the country, has such low infection rates and low death rates compared to other states. Very, very low. We can look at New York, New York's, you know, infection, we have like 10 times more infections there than we do here.
Starting point is 00:23:57 And their death rate is through the roof in comparison. California, very, very populated state. We have densely populated areas in the Bay Area, San Francisco, you know, Los Angeles, and it doesn't, and we're not nearly, nearly as bad. Now, are there theories around the virus thriving better and colder, colder climates than warmer climates? Well, other way around.
Starting point is 00:24:20 Well, what they're saying about, what some of the theories around California are, is that it might have been Around in California in the fall of 2019 I listen today is that article you just found that's the article I just found today is the day Sal and I go down and we get tested at red dot. Okay today We go because I believe I had it and I think you believe you had it now So it says in the article.
Starting point is 00:24:46 So it is it's the San Francisco gate. It says study investigates if COVID-19 came to California in fall of 2019. Here's some more interesting news. We had an early flu season in California and it hit off hard. Yeah. And there were a lot of mysterious illnesses that were happening here in California around that time. Combine that with the fact that people are just not getting, look, I know we had the shelter in place and all that stuff, but we're a, we have a lot of fucking people here. And home population.
Starting point is 00:25:17 Yes. And how can you be confident you could trace it just to like a specific date of one passenger coming out you know, and like spreading it? Like, well, California has been forever and continues to be by far, the most popular tourist place for Chinese tourists, by far, and they love to come across the pond. They love to go to LA, and they love to go to San Francisco.
Starting point is 00:25:40 And that's, we were some of the first places hit by when they started testing by COVID or whatever, right? New York right now they're doing tests and they're finding that mocus all from Europe. Yes. Yeah, they're finding so cuz COVID's mutating a little bit here and there and they can start to see like oh this one came from Europe This one really most of the cases in New York they're finding came from Europe So it what might have happened is California was exposed early. We weren't really tracking or whatever. We just kind of had a bad flu season.
Starting point is 00:26:10 People getting sick or whatever, but you know, we're not focusing on it with a magnifying glass. So not everybody's not in panic like we are right now. Now that we're focusing on it, everybody's like, why the fuck is California doing so well? Our death rates like comparison is nothing. I gotta look it up with what it is as of right now.
Starting point is 00:26:28 What, which is ironic considering that we were one of the first places that tested in it, right? We were the first place in the United States that popped up popped up in San Francisco or no way Washington first and then San Francisco. The Bay Area was one of the first places. It was when they thought we were gonna get hit really hard. Yeah, so check this out, right? New, as of right now, total confirmed cases, 159,000. So this
Starting point is 00:26:50 is as of the recording of this podcast, when it drops, this, these will be off. California 19,000. Okay. Wow. 159 and 19,000. Now look at the deaths. Here's the big one. The total deaths in New York due to COVID, 7,000, the total total total deaths in California, as of when we started paying attention to testing, 508, 508, we have 489 total cases per one million, the population, 13 deaths per one million. New York is at 8,000 cases per one million in 360 deaths, our number of 13 deaths per one million New York is that 8,000 cases per one million in 360 deaths Our number of 13 deaths per one million population is very very low now
Starting point is 00:27:32 Compared to the one in Europe is that like has it mutated at all and like become a different type It's it's mutated a little bit, but they're not finding it to be more or less. Okay. Yeah. Because I'm like, oh, shit. No, I watched outbreak. Yeah. Are they, are they the ones that are getting it in California? Are we tracing that to, to China? I haven't read, I haven't read anything about that.
Starting point is 00:27:55 I wonder, I haven't read anything about it. But I could look it up and how many, and how many, like, uh, when, when I saw that red dot was doing that, I mean, just blew my mind. I didn't know that the people, the people were private people were doing this. Yes. Is this happening more and more? Are you, are you here? Companies are starting to get their, they're, they're getting FDA approval to be able to provide antibody testing to the population, you know, through private means, which means you have to pay for it, which means that they generate revenue to produce more. This
Starting point is 00:28:21 is going to be in addition to all the tests that the government is paying for in the hospital. This is a very good thing. So when Stanford did it, what was the outcome? How many people had it? No, no, yeah. It just happened. They just did this test, but we're gonna start to see the results.
Starting point is 00:28:35 And what they're gonna find with it is a more accurate population infection rate. Because like, okay, Iceland, I think did this or Greenland or Iceland did this, where they tested just a bunch of people and they got more accurate You know Infection rate because when you infect when you test only people with bad symptoms Right, you don't really get an accurate number because we don't know all the people that don't have That are asymptomatic. We don't know any of that stuff. So that's what they're trying to figure out
Starting point is 00:29:02 I think this is and I'm such a numbers guy. So this is something that I was like trying to explain to my friends that have been freaking out since the beginning of all this is that. What we know, the number that's been pretty consistent, even with people that make it to the hospital and we test, 97% of the people report mild symptoms. Okay, so if 97% of the people that go to the hospital and get tested report mild symptoms,
Starting point is 00:29:27 what percentage of people don't even go report it like yourself or potentially not not saying that we did we don't know yet We'll find out but to me that just it makes you got to think a little bit that there's got to be a there's got to be some percentage Whether it's 1% or 50% of the people don't even go into the hospital, which would completely inflate and change those numbers. It's interesting, isn't it? Yes. Yeah, I'm really interested to see what these antibody tests say for us.
Starting point is 00:29:53 I'm not gonna lie, I'll be really angry if I get the antibody test. And I didn't have it, I'll be like, but we'll see, it's very interesting. But it is weird that California is just doing exceptionally well as it is, and none of the, you know, these infectious disease experts would have forecasted that at all. So this is kind of a theory that it was circulating way before. Speaking of New York, and I mentioned this on the last time we brought up Magic Spoon,
Starting point is 00:30:20 is that is where we are sending the boxes of cereal are to the New York food bank where they need it the most right now. So, and that's for all of April, so it's already started. So for every magic spoon purchase, they're matching that with a box of cereal that will be shipped out over to the New York food bank
Starting point is 00:30:41 where they need it the most right now. That's true. Magic spoon is one of our champion companies. They're one of our partners they needed the most right now. That's true. Magic Spoon is one of our champion companies. They're one of our partners that is just crushing right now. Because people are ordering their high protein no sugar cereal. Because it's good shelf life. It tastes good. You're stuck at home.
Starting point is 00:30:58 It's comforting. And that's a strategy now. I don't normally recommend this strategy to people under normal circumstances. I don't like this strategy. You'll hear a lot of fitness coaches recommend their clients, hey, if you're gonna, why don't you have healthy snacks and why don't you make all these substitutes and whatever?
Starting point is 00:31:14 I don't think that's a great, necessarily long term coaching approach, but under the current circumstances, I do because it's stressful, it's the thing, time to tough, you don't wanna go to the grocery store every single day, you want things with a long shelf life. So rather than getting fruit loops, you get magic spoon and then you have high protein,
Starting point is 00:31:32 low sugar. This is a strategy that I think a lot of people are adopting, which might be why they're crushing. Well, yeah, I just love seeing, it's cool. It makes me feel good about the vetting process that we all do before we partner with a company. And I always wonder, I always feel like, one day we're gonna be wrong, right?
Starting point is 00:31:52 We're gonna think we love some company and then we're gonna find out some back. Yeah, right? Or that they do something bad and then we're like, fuck, but I think because we care about that so much and we stress that and vet them and court them before we actually do a partnership with them. I mean, I've just been really proud of the people
Starting point is 00:32:08 that we've chose to do business with because many of the companies that we're doing are doing things like this. I'm always looking for companies that are doing it the right way right now too. We brought up the whole debacle with 24-hour fitness and all that. And I just started about the CEO from Marriott.
Starting point is 00:32:22 He basically gave his entire salary now to keep his company afloat with keeping employees paid. So he said, I'm not gonna get paid. Not gonna get paid. But he saved this money. You know who wins all of that, right? Jack Dorsey, have you dug, pulled this up, rich people, what percentage of rich people donating
Starting point is 00:32:43 for COVID-19, let's see if it could have this graph come to. I saw this graph in there. Oh yeah, I didn't see that graph. And you're talking about, you know, the Bill Gates, the Oprah Winfrey's, like, they've all donated millions of dollars, which is amazing, right? Yeah, yeah. And they, but they show the percentage of that of their total
Starting point is 00:32:56 income. And, uh, Jack, so the Twitter CEO. So if you're like a hella broke and you give 10 bucks, I'm like 50% of my income. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think on average, it's like a, it's like it's two or five percent of all of these, you know, million, billionaires and millionaires money, but Jack Dorsey gave a billion dollars. So he's the only one that give a billion dollars, which is billion, which is 32% of his net worth. And everybody else is like, the other people that are giving you 100 million,
Starting point is 00:33:27 10 million, but it's like, yeah, it's a drop in the bucket, but whatever it's still. Wow, he donated a one billion to fund COVID-19 relief and other charities. What a champion, right? Yeah. That's great. This is the stuff I love to see about,
Starting point is 00:33:43 you know, about, you know, successful people. Cause I'm gonna tell you, you know. Bro, that is a 32% of your fucking net worth is a big, huge deal. Yeah, that is a big, huge chunk out. You know, haters are gonna be like, yeah, but he still has, that means he's got, you know, the three billion or whatever, you know,
Starting point is 00:33:56 left in his account. Oh God, stop. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What did you give? That's all I have now. Two bucks, so annoying. Anyway, so, I want to say something that probably going to annoy you guys, but man, mobility work when you do it consistently.
Starting point is 00:34:10 That shit works really good. It's like magic, isn't it? Good to have you on board. But you know what, it's always a struggle for me to consistently do daily, concentrated mobility work. It works so much better when it's done frequently when you practice it often But I do fall in that category of you know, if I skip anything It's that because I love the heavy lifting I even love the bodybuilding kind of stuff and my form is relatively good
Starting point is 00:34:41 So I can get away with it, you know here and there and I get all that but stuck at home I'm finding ways to create structure in my day and to alleviate stress or whatever. So I've been consistent with downward dogging. Downward upward. So I've been really consistent with and all I'm doing is I I sort of got 15 minutes, 15 minutes, once or twice a day of, you know, the Prime Pro, you know, mobility stuff, and I love it, I love it, man, and you know, it's funny, you feel it right away, like within two or three days.
Starting point is 00:35:17 So Doug just walked out of the room for the listeners, and he's not in here right now. So when he walks back in, you have to ask him about the mobility class I took him through yesterday. Oh, you took him through a whole class? Yeah, so I took, so Doug and I have been talking about doing a webinar around some of our favorite movements
Starting point is 00:35:34 from Prime Pro, basically a 45 to 50 minute class that I used to teach. I've talked about on the show before that I used to do these classes on Saturday for old clients of mine that used to go to my boot camps back in the days. And so I've been doing that for a long time and I took Doug through it. So he got to experience it yesterday for the first time. And so it's something that we were just kind of playing with. And I haven't even asked him how he feels from doing it yesterday.
Starting point is 00:36:02 Just to do the meat grinder. You know, I don't get stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, it's good stuff. I just, it's the same thing that I used to, exact same thing I used to run in class, but. How was it, Doug? It was great. My hips are much better right now.
Starting point is 00:36:13 Really? Yeah, it's crazy. And something that I had him do that I make clients do. So, because some, you know, if you're, you gotta remember as a trainer, right? When you're helping people that are just like, completely detached from their movement and don't really think about mechanics.
Starting point is 00:36:29 And even, something as great as a great mobility session, as great as it is, they sometimes can't even connect how well it really helped them. I can't, I can't see the way they move right away. It's like very obvious to me. So what I have them do is before I even start, I go, what I want you to do with me real quick is we're going to do 10 deep squats together and I just want you to just feel it,
Starting point is 00:36:52 feel it, go as deep as you can, follow me, and I squat all the way down, I'll lay up and I count 10 with them and I make them do that. And then I do it at the end of the class. To show them the difference. Yeah. And it's so glaring for somebody what a difference of their hips, their ankles, their knees, how deep they can eat back. That is it. So I would do similar things when I was a trainer because it's such a powerful way to communicate
Starting point is 00:37:18 to a client the value of whatever it is that you're doing with them because unless somebody actually experiences it, sometimes it's difficult to really communicate to someone the value of something. So then when you show them and I say, okay, do this real right now and then they do it and then I do some stuff and I do it again. I'm like, whoa, this feels totally different. Sold. Now they get it, they're bought in and they're more likely to do it consistently. So's a very, and so here's a, here's my point with all this. Do this for yourself.
Starting point is 00:37:47 So like what Adam's saying, try doing a, a few full squats, then do 20 minutes of good mobility work, then do 10 more squats or whatever. And for yourself, just so you can see the difference that it makes. And how right. And if you think you have a hard time. A hard time seeing it. What'd you say? I said, it makes him awful clump thinking about it. What, you can also video it.
Starting point is 00:38:13 I mean, you can see, I mean, after I watch Doug, like get down, he was getting, he was getting an extra probably four inches. He filmed him getting down, huh? Yeah, yeah. Four inches deeper into his squat. Oh, yeah. His feet were, weren't feet were not pronating his bad as they were before,
Starting point is 00:38:28 his chest was more upright when he was doing it. And so, I mean, as a train, I see it right away. So if you have a hard time seeing those things as a client or somebody who's listening, video your first 10 before, do it, and then video it again. And I promise you'll see a difference. And to me, like you said, Sal, that's being able to show somebody, there's not a lot of things.
Starting point is 00:38:48 I can't take you through the, I can write the best workout program and take you through it and I can't show you five pounds of muscle, increase to your bench. No, not right away, but I can take you through a mobility workout and you can feel and see a difference on how you move right away. Right away. And that's such a great selling point for trainers. And the more often you do it, the more the more permanent that benefit becomes.
Starting point is 00:39:11 Right. Yeah. It becomes your new patterning. Totally. So I was reading this really good article about ancient athletes. These are athletes, you know, who competed in the Olympics, you know, in 400, 80 or whatever, or Rekko Roman times. Yeah, and you know, because I think we tend to think that athletes today would just, you know, dominate the game.
Starting point is 00:39:35 Yeah, old athletes, like we're just so much better or whatever, but you read about some of these guys, I say some of the most, the big standouts, check this out, right? Okay. So here's one. There was a, Keonus of Sparta. So this was an athlete that complete, he didn't in Sparta.
Starting point is 00:39:54 And historical record suggests that at the 656 BC games, okay. He jumped a then record 7.05 meters. In other words, he could have won with that, that 2,600 year old jump at the first Olympics in 1896, and then it would have placed him in the top eight at the further 10 Olympics all the way up to and including the 1952 games in Helsinki.
Starting point is 00:40:21 So he would have been just as competitive up in, and this is 656 BC, no understanding of modern training, modern nutrition, probably no choice. This is playing the jump. Is this the vertical jumper, the long T.A. Jump, 21 feet a year? No, no, no, no. It's sad to be this long jump.
Starting point is 00:40:38 Come on, come on, moon jump. Come on, guys. It's a long jump. It's a fucking, pretty amazing, right? Michael Jordan, you're hard at anyway. Something like that is a long jump. Yeah, pretty amazing, right? Michael Jordan, you're hard at it anyway. Something like that is amazing. Yeah, yeah. Then there was a Milo of Croton.
Starting point is 00:40:50 He had, and now he was a wrestler. Of Croton? Of Croton. Yeah. He had an estimated 1200 wins and one loss up until the age of 45. As if up till he was 45, he won 1,200 matches. Lost one.
Starting point is 00:41:08 Now the second most winningest wrestler of all time is Alexander Carolyn. You guys have heard me talk about him with the Russian bear. He had 887 wins and two losses. Just to show you the 787. Yeah, which is still crazy. Well, you know that this reminds me of somebody asked on,
Starting point is 00:41:25 I don't know if it was something we were together or to me privately, but they asked about what I, one of my favorite TED talks that I could share with them. Oh, I know what you're trying to say. Yeah, my go-to share, like when I think of the most, like, pff, mind blowing one for me, was I think it's, our athletes bigger, stronger, faster.
Starting point is 00:41:44 I think that's the title, but it's a TED talk around the evolution of sports, the democratization of sports. Right, you can say it. You get it. Yeah, I did it. So, and in that, they basically, they had all these great studies around
Starting point is 00:41:59 to support exactly what you're saying right now is that we really haven't evolved that much as humans, although it looks like it to the spectator, right? You watch football, and just in my lifetime football players today and basketball players day look so much better, but really, when they break it all down, they attribute a majority of that actually to the evolution of science. How big were they? You know, like, how big, how, how, like,
Starting point is 00:42:22 like, his fast-twitch muscle, the way that we've trained, like, that has to have played a factor. Well, yeah, that's your modern day athletes. That's the evolution of science. Yeah, we've learned to diet better, which has helped a little bit. We've learned to equipment a little bit. Like, it's, it's, so.
Starting point is 00:42:36 And it's also, we've eaten more calories, which has produced bigger bodies. And it's also what you said, where, you, back in the day, they were looking at it athletes were considered Did they had they all looked a certain way there was a general athlete a Shot putter today looks nothing like a long distance runner. Right looks nothing like a weightlifter. It's super specific Yeah, it's because now you're picking like the tallest kids for basketball or the you know So back back back then it didn't necessarily do that and athletes competed in many
Starting point is 00:43:06 different things. There's another guy, thea genius of Fassos, who competed for 22 years in every major combat competition at the time, boxing, pink ration and wrestling. You guys from the pink ration? No, it's a, pink ration is like MMA, except they were leather, they were like a strap of leather around their knuckles and they basically could fuck each other up however they wanted.
Starting point is 00:43:28 So it was like, it's like no one's fighting without cages. This quads brought to you by Organify. For those days you fall short on getting your organic veggies or whole food nutrition, Organify fills the gap with laboratory tested certified organic superfoods to help give your health a performance-the-added edge. Try Organify totally risk-free for 60 days by going to Organify.com. That's O-R-G-A-N-I-F-I.com and use a coupon code MindPump for 20% off at checkout. First question is from Vidal F3. I want to get a machine for cardio. Between the treadmill, elliptical, roar, or bike,
Starting point is 00:44:08 what machine would be the most beneficial for workouts, hit, and overall health? Oh, if you, well, if the choice is... The choice. If the choice is between those, in my opinion, the treadmill is the best option. It's the most versatile, walking, running, you can practice your technique and form on them.
Starting point is 00:44:27 It's very functional. It's the easiest to do at lower intensities for a lot of people. You know, if you need to get on in there and just walk. There's a reason why it's the most popular piece of cardio equipment. It's existed forever and it's always in all of them. I don't have an issue with ellipticals, rowers or bikes necessarily, but like a rower, I think requires more skill, requires a little bit better stability. Ellipticals are okay, but you're limited. You can't do, you can only do the elliptical.
Starting point is 00:44:58 Whereas on a treadmill, there's a lot of different things you can do if you want to get, you know, kind of created. But at the end of the day, the one that you feel most comfortable with is probably going to be fine because really what you're training, unless you're training specifically for a sport like biking, rowing, running, you're just strengthening your cardiovascular system, in which case you could do
Starting point is 00:45:18 that with all of those. Yeah, if you're looking at it in terms of the mechanics of walking, running, jogging and all that, then a treadmill obviously is going to make sense with that out of all of them. But in terms of what I look for out of a piece of cardio equipment is how involved I can get my lower body, my upper body, everything stimulated by it. So I tend to choose something like the roar or the bike, like the assault bike where I can actually rip the handles
Starting point is 00:45:50 and really get my upper body engaged as well. Just, I can't stand, to me it just feels like I'm a hamster on a wheel with the treadmill and it's just like a slow death. I'd rather be outside, you know, hike in or doing hills, but for your average person, I think a treadmill with the ability for it to incline, I think is fantastic option.
Starting point is 00:46:16 I can actually make a case for each one of these. I mean, there's a person that this is, that's why the answer always depends with us, right? Yeah. Because somebody, and I, if I had to put one in last place, I would put the bike unless you say the assault bike, like Justin just said. If you put a assault bike in replace a bike,
Starting point is 00:46:36 I can make a case for each one of those. Your simple case you just made for this, I mean, the second, the assault bike too is, I think it, they've already done studies on the ability to reach like your max heart rate and burn the most of calories. I mean, it's up quickly.
Starting point is 00:46:49 Right, it's up there with one of the best when it comes to, when we're talking about just straight burns. So there's the case for that, right? Roar in my opinion is probably one of the healthiest things someone can learn to do. Now, because of the point that Sal made, the learning curve on it is probably the highest out of all those.
Starting point is 00:47:05 You're getting on a bike very easy, getting on a treadmill very easy, elliptical even easier, rowing most technical, but because it's most technical, probably has the greatest advantage for seeing the most return from it, right? If you learn to do it well, you're gonna get great core strength from there,
Starting point is 00:47:20 you get leg drive from there, you're doing retracting and working the posterior train, so your back is getting involved, which as, as trainers know, that working on the posterior chain is so important for most clients. So, I can make a ton of value for the rear or treadmill, why I can make the case the same reason why I salded, it's probably the most versatile, you can do the most things on it, as far as walking, running, skipping, uphill, flat, even you can do some treadmills downhill. So, I think that do some treadmills downhill.
Starting point is 00:47:45 So I think that that one is the most versatile. Alybdical though, if I have a client who has got joint issues, if you have a lot of knee pain or hip pain, that is the lowest impact, that one in the bike or the lowest impact out of all those. So it's probably the healthiest way, and you are moving, lipticals are moving your arms and your legs, so it actually actually when you measure the calorie burn
Starting point is 00:48:06 in comparison to a lot of things, it may seem easier, but I remember when the body bug first came out, I actually wore it and then I did all of these different cardio modalities to see how the expenditure. And the one I was most surprised and was elliptical, elliptical was right up there with the treadmill with the most amount of calories burned for the same amount of time that I was on it.
Starting point is 00:48:27 So I can see a lot of value there. So it really depends on the person. None of them are wrong. And like Sal said, the main thing that you're using it for unless it's very sport specific for what you're trying to accomplish is the train the heart. And you could do that doing jumping jacks.
Starting point is 00:48:43 You can do that jogging outside, you can do that with warrior ropes running in places. Yeah, and the truth is, no matter which one you choose, if you do it every single day consistently for the same time, the same intensity, at some point the body will get very adapted to it and then the main thing that you're trying to accomplish from it as far as your cardiovascular endurance is going to start to diminish unless you start to very change it or increase time
Starting point is 00:49:08 or intensity on it. I mean, but general activity is just good for you. General daily activity is just healthy. So even if you're doing it and you're not necessarily getting any more cardio gains or fat loss gains, just the fact that you're moving. So which one will you do the most, right? So that's the truth is, and if you don't like to row to row. Right. So here's why I like the treadmill for me. This is a me speaking,
Starting point is 00:49:30 just for myself. With the treadmill, I could, and I used to do this in my personal training studio, we had treadmills and we had ellipticals in there. I had a few of them. And what I would do often times is when I was working either on my phone working or I'm writing something or I want to read something, I can multitask easier with a treadmill than I could with like an elliptical or definitely a rower, because a rower requires your hands. I could put the book up on the platform,
Starting point is 00:49:58 whatever the screen for the treadmill, and I would just do a slow walk. So rather than just sitting and reading and believe it or not for someone like me, that movement actually helped me stay focused. I would actually absorb more of what I was reading, but I would walk at a slow pace. It would be like, you know, with a three year whatever.
Starting point is 00:50:14 And I'd put the book up on the platform, and I would just read. And I'd be there for 45 minutes just to be active. So I didn't even mention the jump rope, but that's my go-to. Mainly because like at the timing of it, and the snap and the power, that is a great way to translate to athletic moves
Starting point is 00:50:34 and just be more explosive. And it's just like a repetitive pattern that you're training your body to respond and get that recoil really quick. And it requires a lot of skill. I mean, there's no doubt about that. Like you have to really work your way through that so you can get the timing and the body position
Starting point is 00:50:52 and you know, when and where you need to like add your bits of inflection. So it's definitely something though that I always go back to that to make sure that I have that skill. Next question is from Joyful JJ. My dad started working out again, but he has terrible form.
Starting point is 00:51:09 I don't want him to hurt himself, but I don't want to discourage him either. How can I help him? Well, this goes to your point you made earlier in the episode, Saul, like, you know, get him on mobility, man. This is, I, But you know, here's, this is something
Starting point is 00:51:22 I want to add to this though, okay? Because just because you're focusing on mobility doesn't mean you're not working out or exercising. Hey, ask that. Yesterday I was really straining. Yeah, well, it's a workout. Well, look, okay, here's a little bit of a sweat. Here's something that I want to clear up. I actually said this on Becky Campbell's channel yesterday.
Starting point is 00:51:44 There's this belief that if you focus on correctional exercise and mobility that you're going to get slower results, that you're not going to get as greater results. So it's either, it's either or either I want the muscle building and the fat loss and the strength or I just want to do correctional exercise and mobility. It's actually, that's not true. The truth is you'll get there faster and better by working on mobility, especially when you look at it in longer terms, three months, six months in a year.
Starting point is 00:52:12 If you start your workout properly, and you focus on correctional exercise, if you focus on mobility, not only are you doing it the better way with less chance of injury and all that stuff, you're gonna get there faster and more effectively anyway. So the only choice is to do it. There is one right way is my point. It's not like, oh, you know, I'm giving one up for the other.
Starting point is 00:52:33 It's only one. That's the right way. And so start with mobility. That is his workout right now, for sure. Next question is from Russell Gerrwer. My kids and I have been using maps anywhere. It allows me to get my workouts in and teach them a few things about exercise. What adjustments, if any, do you recommend to program for children? That's a really good question.
Starting point is 00:52:57 So when it comes to kids and working out with kids, there's a couple things that I think you want to consider. One, can they do the movement with what seems to what looks like good stability and good control? If the answer is yes, then the movement's appropriate. How long is there a tension span doing these exercises? That's the other big one. Yeah. You know, when I would train, so when I would train teenagers, I'd say over the age of 14,
Starting point is 00:53:23 I could do an hour workout with them, especially if I did a good job talking with them in between sets and kind of joking around and having fun. When I would train kids, because I did train a few kids, under the age of 12, really, really tough to keep them in a structured workout, that isn't play, because play is easy. You can do play, I can play with a kid for two hours, no problem. But like a structured, like, okay, you got to do this, you got to watch your form, make sure your knee is doing this. You're looking at like 20, 30 minutes.
Starting point is 00:53:50 It's about maybe 20, 30 minutes max for most kids. After that, you're just creating a torturous... Yeah. And if that's the case too, like, I adjust on the fly. I try and at least get like two to three. Maybe exercises that I'm like, okay, like we're going to buckle down we're gonna focus and concentrate and at least like I feel like we accomplished something when you know, they can remain focused and get what they need to get out of those very specific exercises and learn it as a skill. And then after that, it's like, okay, I'm just gonna kind of work this on
Starting point is 00:54:22 the fly of like, let's make this fun, let's make this engaging, let's add a little bit of like a game to this or something that's gonna keep them, going through the rest of the movements. And really with kids, for the most part, it's the activity. That's really the biggest part, kids need to focus on really general play. And so, like pulling, like pulling things, pushing things, you know, running, climbing,
Starting point is 00:54:49 like all these, very important, their body awareness, proprioception, that's the biggest concern for me always with kids is to be able to establish that. So then they can build upon that later as they develop. So I had a, I had a reasonable amount of success with this, with training my clients, kids, like with the boot camp class,
Starting point is 00:55:10 he said do this on, once a month, I'd let them bring their kids and we would do something with them. And it took me a while to figure out, and everything you guys are saying is like so spot on, I mean, it's kids' attention is tough, and it's about moving more than anything else.
Starting point is 00:55:25 And so I couldn't take them through these same series of workouts that I was taking my clients. And so it forced me to try and get creative. And one of the things that I had pretty good success with I like to do and you can come up with your own test. So I would create this little test, kids love reward systems, right? So I would, whatever that is
Starting point is 00:55:45 as a parent, whether that be a treat that you do or more time on their iPad or find some sort of a reward system for them beating themselves, right? So, what I would do is say, all right, you know, son, this is what we're gonna do today. We are gonna do, and I did this on a field, right? So, I had this room. So, we would, I do go on a football field. The first exercise might be like walking lunges and I'd say, you and I did this on a field, right? So I had this room. So we would, I do go on a football field.
Starting point is 00:56:06 The first exercise might be like walking lunges. And I'd say, you and I together, let's do walking lunges as far as we can. And you tell me when you can't do anymore. And so we would just walk until they're like, oh, I can't do anymore. That's to my, okay, that was, you know, 52 lunges, walking lunges you did,
Starting point is 00:56:21 or whatever the number is. And then I would write it down. So now I know, then we do push-ups, then we do sit-ups, and then we do a 100-yard dash and number is and then I would write it down so now I know Then we do push-ups then we do sit-ups and then we do a hundred yard dash and back sprint and I would time it And so I get a series of like exercises and movements I would time all of them and calculate how many of these do physical fitness. Yeah, right exactly something basic like that And that's kind of where this came from is like I know that this was back when that was I don't know They still do that at schools, but I remember that and this would help these kids
Starting point is 00:56:45 when they would go to test for these things. And then what I would do is just try to get them to compete with themselves and then I would reward them for beating themselves the next time. So now the next time that we did that, if you shaved off one second, then you would get your whatever reward or treat
Starting point is 00:57:02 or whatever or celebrate. Every kid's different. Some kids just wanna be recognized in high five and oh my God, you're improving, you're whatever reward or treat or whatever or celebrate, you know, every kid's different. Some kids just wanna be recognized in high five and oh my God, you're improving, you're amazing. Some kids will need something like, hey, that gives me an extra half hour of iPad time, whatever, but find something like that. Put together a series of exercises or movements.
Starting point is 00:57:19 Have them test it one time, don't tell them you're doing that just haven't let us see how many you can do, track it, and then just try to get them to improve each time you'd be surprised how many kids feed right into that That's yeah, the measurable is a big one like okay You just put a stopwatch in front of them. Can you hold this for 10 seconds? Yeah, hold a plank right and then you put it right in front of them and then all of a sudden now they can measure You know off of the thing and they get competitive and you have a lot of fun the other thing too is while you're doing this with them And I love doing this with my kids,
Starting point is 00:57:45 is it's not necessarily about the workout. So what I mean is, if we're sitting there doing mobility or stretching, it's not necessarily about the like, do you feel the stretch? We'll get in the position, I'll watch their form and I'll correct their form as we go along. But then I'll ask a question like,
Starting point is 00:58:01 if you could have any superpower, what would it be and why? Or I'd say something like, you know, what would you rather have? super, you know, intelligence or super strength? And we have these fun conversations while we're doing the positions and then at, while they're answering, I say, hold on, you know, hold your head up high, you know, get your posture better. Okay, go ahead. Now what were you saying? And we have these conversations and it makes it a lot of fun. I love family workout time. I do think it's going to take away from probably your own intensity and stuff like that
Starting point is 00:58:26 So it's probably not to be an addition to your workouts But one last point I want to make Any workout is appropriate for a child if the child can perform the movements and exercises with good control Good stability good overall mobility. It doesn't matter. Barbell squat, deadlift, overhead press, clean and snatch. I can give you the craziest exercises. If the child can perform them well with good control, good stability,
Starting point is 00:58:55 then that exercises probably appropriate. Now, how you apply the exercise with intensity and reps and all that stuff, totally, totally different conversation. And some exercises are more often than not gonna be inappropriate for a kid than others. But I know maps anywhere, we created the program. Most of the stuff on there, have your kid try it,
Starting point is 00:59:14 you know your kid, watch their form. If joints are out of whack, if things are wobbly, if they don't have good control and good stability, okay, we're not gonna do that exercise. You know, it's great, because it's body weight, you know, the majority of the exercises. And this is just something that you can, you know, take that time to really coach them through that. And a point I was going to make listening to Adam bring that up reminded
Starting point is 00:59:36 me, I, I used to download these, these hit apps, they were like timer apps and you can adjust the tempo on them and the timing of it. And so I would slow that tempo down and give them like beats and every beat they had to like drop down at a certain cadence or they had to hold the position, you know, for, you know, 10 to 20 seconds. And so I would have them hold positions in a pushup but I'd have them hold positions at the bottom of a squat.
Starting point is 01:00:02 And it's really with kids to get them to slow down is a huge accomplishment. So that's a tool in your tool house. It's like you're making it a game. Here's one example of fun. You know the single leg toe touch, right? You balance on one leg, you reach down, touch the floor, touch your toe, stand back up.
Starting point is 01:00:19 It's a nice posterior chain exercise. Here's a fun way to do it with kids. You take a bunch of pencils, you drop them next to their foot and say, how many of them can you pick up before your other foot hits the ground. And now they're having fun. And then over, they're picking it up and all my foot touched the floor.
Starting point is 01:00:32 I only picked up three. All right, how many can you do? And you just do this fun game competition. Yeah. Next question is from Jay Lee. And our fitness tests, such as the standard 2.4 kilometer run, one minute Amrap pushups and sit-ups, a good measure of people's physical fitness,
Starting point is 01:00:50 or are there better tests? You know, I hate when people say things like, you know, this is these tests tell us that this person is the best, most fit, fitness, now I'm not talking about how. Where is this from? Where does that, what test is that? Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:01:07 I was trying to find that out because it just reminded me of our, I mean, we were kind of talking about the presidential physical fitness standards. You know, yeah, we did those and I remember, I enjoyed it a lot because like, I mean, I crushed it pretty much, you know, compared to all my peers,
Starting point is 01:01:21 but you know, it was, we had like a sit and reach, okay, we had like the one mile run, we had the pull ups, push ups, and what else am I forgetting something? I think that's it. Yeah, you know what's one of us, maybe. You also mess me up all the time was the sit and reach. I said, he's that guy so well.
Starting point is 01:01:38 I crushed everything in that. Every boy sucked at that. What hurt me? Yeah, so here's a thing, forget, okay, so healthy is different, okay. Fitness is measured by maybe performance. Very specific. Is somebody who can do a really fast 2.4 kilometer run, one minute amratt, pushups and sit-ups?
Starting point is 01:01:58 Do they have great fitness for Olympic weightlifting? No. Do they have great fitness for boxing? Probably not. So it's very specific. Yeah, they're good at running, they're good at pushups, they're good at sit-ups if they do that, right? Yeah, so it's very, it's kind of a very, fitness is a very specific thing. I would say what you might want to do instead is break up your performance into a few different categories, maybe strength, endurance, mobility, and flexibility.
Starting point is 01:02:28 Maybe those three, I'd say, would be the general ones, and then have a component in each one of those. I don't know what you guys think. Well, I do. Here's something that I will- Maybe a explosive jumping. This does smell very crossfitting to me. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:40 But I will- And that stinks. To give it credit, it to give it credit. It does have some validity because there, I always tend to go back like I've said on the show at least a handful of times where you might hear me say, like, we talk about like cardio this, cardio that, but I always get on the treadmill, you know, at least once a month and just see what I got for a mile.
Starting point is 01:03:03 And it is a gauge for me to know if that's getting significantly worse and my maintaining and my getting a little better. And I want to be able to run a mile if I ever do. So it's something that I've always inserted into my training no matter what I'm focused on. It may not add a lot of value to my map strong workout or whatever, but I want to know. I want to know can I still run a mile under a certain time, right? So there's value to my map strong workout or whatever, but I wanna know, I wanna know, can I still run a mile
Starting point is 01:03:26 under a certain time, right? So there's value to that. I also do this thing where I do full-ever sit-ups and I go to 100 and I try and get them out as many as I can. And it gives me feedback on kind of where my fitness level is and the same thing, every once in a while I mess around and I drop down and just get, wrap out as many pushups as I can without stopping
Starting point is 01:03:44 to see how many I'm at. And so, you know, it's a good gauge for myself to kind of see where I'm at, but it is very specific. I could be deadlifting 500 and something pounds, but then not be able to run a mile because I haven't been doing it. You know, that's why, yeah, I'm trying to think, I liked the standards of like being able to lift
Starting point is 01:04:03 your own body weight or more, you know, within specific, you know, foundational lifts. Like I always want to like, you know, look back and see is making sure that I'm at least lift them more on my body weight, you know, or double it. No, that's a good one. I think even, like not, I mean, doubles a good goal for us personally because we love fitness, but I know you've been in it. No, if you can bench squat and dead your body weight, you're relatively strong. Especially bench.
Starting point is 01:04:26 Yeah, it's a hard one for me. It is, but I mean, if you can bench squat deadlift, you're weight, how much you weigh at least, you're pretty dang strong. You know, that's not bad at all. Yeah, the way I liked it, the way I would communicate it to clients was, can you, do you have good enough health and fitness
Starting point is 01:04:42 to where you're not struggling when you play with your kids or when you run at the park or when you're moving boxes or moving the couch because you got a vacuum underneath it. Are you do you have pain or do you have no pain? Do you wake up in the morning and feel like you could just get up? Do you have good energy, good health? I think generally speaking, those are probably those are the things you might want to kind of look like. Yeah, if I had to structure it, it would definitely be like a joint, you know, test for mobility. And then you would have like how much like if you can lift your body weight
Starting point is 01:05:16 with those standard lifts and then some kind of an endurance component, right? So it could be the mile runner, it could be some other form of cardio test that you choose. Yeah, the endurance one I do is can I do more than 10 curls? Can I walk from the couch to outside? I know, I'm breathing. I did 11 curls. My endurance is pretty good right now. And with that go to mindpumpfree.com and download all of our guides and resources. You can also find the three of us on Instagram. You can find Justin at Mind Pump Justin. Adam is at Mind Pump Adam and me. I'm at Mind Pump South.
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