Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1289: The Amazing Benefits of the Farmer’s Walk, Getting Results With One or Two Workouts a Week, Learning Strategies & More

Episode Date: May 9, 2020

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about how to train someone that only wants to commit to 1-2 workouts a week, whether the Farmer’s Walk is valuable even... though most people don't do them, whether increasing cardio is more of a detriment than a help when everything is already dialed in, and good strategies when trying to study a topic. Miir is doing good for the environment. (3:52) Don’t get caught cheating. (5:35) Mind Pump on health clubs and their reopening plans. (8:20) Mind Pump Investments. (14:45) Tom Cruise and Elon Musk are partnering up! (19:37) The scams on gym equipment have exploded! (22:40) Bleach kills everything. (24:32) The Adele controversy, body shaming, virtue signaling, society becoming too soft & MORE. (26:27) Fun Facts with Justin. (33:51) Weird Science with Sal. (38:28) #Quah question #1 – How do you train someone that only wants to commit to 1-2 workouts a week? (39:53) #Quah question #2 – Can you tell us your thoughts on the Farmer’s Walk? They are so simple, yet I don’t see a lot of people incorporating them into their routine. (46:49) #Quah question #3 – When you find the balance you guys talk about regarding diet, activity, and lean gains, would increasing cardio be more of a detriment than a help? (51:32) #Quah question #4 – What are some good strategies you guys have used or do when trying to study a certain topic? (54:20)  Related Links/Products Mentioned May Promotion: MAPS Starter ½ off! **Promo code “STARTER50” at checkout** Special Promotion: MAPS Anywhere ½ off!! **Code “WHITE50” at checkout** Special Promotion (Ends 11:59pm PST 5/10/20): NO BS 6-Pack Abs ½ off! **Promo code “NOBS50” at checkout Visit MIIR for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Wife of Ravens star Earl Thomas arrested after police say she pointed loaded gun at husband's head 'Reimagined experience': Bay Area fitness clubs, gyms prepare for reopening after COVID-19 restrictions ease Peloton’s Red-Hot Earnings Show At-Home Benefit Here to Stay Tom Cruise Planning Movie Filmed in Space with Elon Musk Elon Musk and Grimes named their baby in honor of the 'coolest plane ever' Joe Rogan Experience #1470 - Elon Musk This Beach In Spain Was Sprayed With Bleach To Kill COVID-19 Adele's Former Trainer Defends Her Against "Fatphobic Accusations" After Weight Loss Tiny Frogs and Giant Spiders: Best of Friends COVID-19 treatment: Antibodies from llamas could help tackle coronavirus, scientists say MAPS Strong | MAPS Fitness Products COUNTRY STRONG?? Increase YOUR Work Capacity (2 EXERCISES) | MIND PUMP TV How To Improve YOUR Work Capacity (6 MOVEMENTS) | MIND PUMP Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Jordan Syatt - SyattFitness (@syattfitness)  Instagram Historic Pictures (@historic)  Instagram

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Starting point is 00:00:00 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Saldas Defano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. Welcome to Mind Pump. This is the World's Top Fitness Health and Entertainment podcast. This is a Q&A episode where we answer fitness and health questions. But the beginning of the episode, we do a introductory portions, about 35 minutes long, that's where we talk about current events.
Starting point is 00:00:28 We have some fun conversations. Sometimes we talk about our sponsors. So I'm gonna give you a breakdown of this whole episode, okay? So we start out by talking about one of our partners, Mir, Mir made a new Don Patrol camp cup. You can bring this camping. It's great. It keeps your beverages warm or cold.
Starting point is 00:00:49 But also because of its Earth Day and COVID-19, they have gone 100% carbon neutral and they are now climate neutral certified. That's kind of cool. Anyway, if you want to check out their products and get the Mind Pump discount, go to mirror.com. That's M-I-I-R.com forward-sash Mind Pump. Use the code Mind Pump for 25% off. Then we talked about health clubs and their reopening plans, and particularly we talked about the Bay Club,
Starting point is 00:01:15 and what they're gonna be doing. Then we talked about Tom Cruise and Elon Musk. They became friends apparently. This is where I talked about a Spanish beach doing something very stupid to disinfect their beaches. Then we talked about a Spanish beach doing something very stupid to disinfect their beaches. Then we talked about a disinfectant that can be placed on surfaces and makes them impervious to bacteria and viruses for years, kind of interesting. Then we talked about Adele, her weight loss, and the idiots that came out and said that that was body shaming
Starting point is 00:01:41 somehow. These people still exist. And then Justin very eloquently talked about a tarantula, a tarantulas pet, and it was confusing, but we figured out. You're welcome. And then we got into the questions. The first question, this person wants to know how you train someone that only wants to work out one to two days a week.
Starting point is 00:01:59 So we talk about how to design a workout around that. The next question, this person wants to know what we think about farmer walks. So farmer walks where he holds dumbbells or a trap bar, and you walk and it's usually loaded. There are some benefits to it, so we highlight it in that part of the episode. FarmersOnly.com.
Starting point is 00:02:16 The next question was about, this person wants to know when you do find a balance between nutrition, activity, resistance, training. What happens when you add more cardio? Does that throw things way off? And the final question, this person wants to know what strategies we have when we are trying to study a certain topic we think you're going to like that part of the episode, especially. Also, there's only three days left.
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Starting point is 00:04:07 Yeah, yeah, no, they partner with. They look so cool. Just see what they're doing for honor of Earth Day. Yeah, no, what is it? 100% carbon neutral and climate neutral certified. Tells that mean. It's good for the environment. Now, what it means is that they need to know what it means is the company
Starting point is 00:04:25 is not going to add more carbon according to the testing of this the certification. They're neutral. They're not adding more to the environment than they're they're taken out. Is it common that most companies do that manufacturer is that is that is that I'm assuming that's why that's a big deal. Um, some companies definitely produce more carbon than other companies for sure. Well, not more, this is saying it's neutral and I'm producing. I don't know how they would make it neutral.
Starting point is 00:04:50 I don't necessarily get that. So, but I do know that the certification process to get climate neutral certified, it's vigorous and they go in and in order to get it, you have to be one of the cleaner companies. I think it's that and then what else are your potentially putting back in, that's good. Would that be something to do with it too?
Starting point is 00:05:07 Like maybe because you plant trees. Right, right. Oh yeah. That's how you become neutral, because it's inevitable of your manufacturing something. So it's not just that they don't have an opinion on either one. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:17 I dealt the good. I'm switch really there. I don't know if he's talking about it. What's your opinion on carbon? Neutral. Yeah, sorry. We got to reach out to our guy. There are always forward thinking man,
Starting point is 00:05:25 they're always doing something. I can't even keep up with how much they give back. I think it's pretty cool what Brian's been doing over there for quite some time. Totally. Partly, he's probably partnered with him. Dude, so you know how, because of what's going on, everybody's doing like Zoom conference,
Starting point is 00:05:38 and conference calls, and Zoom classroom, and everybody's working from home or whatever. Zoom, the Zoom Zoom. And have you heard of the, you know, you've heard the stories, right? We're like the employee in the conference doesn't know that this mic is on, right? And they're taking a dump or something like that.
Starting point is 00:05:52 Or people are walking around naked in the background or people's kids screaming, well, there was this reporter, the Spanish reporter that was doing a live, you know, journalism thing on his YouTube channel, or whatever, this live, you know, journalism thing on his YouTube channel, whatever this live, you know, reporting thing. And in the background, his mistress. No.
Starting point is 00:06:11 Yeah, dude, she's walking around, she walks by naked. What? And he gets caught cheating on his wife on camera. What? Yes. What an asshole. Yeah. What a jerk.
Starting point is 00:06:22 Yeah. No, he gets caught cheating on camera. Try getting around a way to find out How do you deny that? Yeah, wife's home watching it Sorry broadcast today. You got something to tell me? Kids change the channel. We got to watch dad real quick. Okay. I love watching his new stuff. You put it on now You don't know who you don't know who Earl Thomas is, but he's he's a safety that plays for the Ravens And he's a stud and he's a safety for the Ravens So did you see the break you lose on him last night? No, so he he got so his his wife
Starting point is 00:06:57 Was arrested for putting a gun to his head now She took the magazine out but didn't realize there's a round in the chamber That's why she's in trouble. But I guess she walked in on him and his brother naked with two other mistresses. That just hit the news yesterday. Wow. It's not worth it. It's not worth it.
Starting point is 00:07:20 You know what I mean? Moose out. To kill someone because they cheated on you. What a stupid thing. I don't think so. From what the report was saying, her intentions weren't to do that. It was just to scare him, which is why I think she pulled the magazine out. Oh, oh, he'll never cheat on me again because I scared him with a gun. Yeah. I want to stupid. Yeah, but when you're in the heat of the moment, like, I'm not, by the way, I'm not like justifying. I'm playing death. I was advocate with you right now that come on. Like you, you got to know that.
Starting point is 00:07:43 Sure. You're walking on your wife and with some dude. Yeah, like right now that come on like you you got to know that sure you're walking on your wife And with some dudes yeah, like you think it's not like you stop and you think logically for fucking 20 minutes Oh, how should I handle this and what's gonna work? What's my desire to blow peasant like burn down her husband's house or whatever? Did she really yeah, oh TLC was the great I love them yeah on the way to Reno you can see there's still touring the two of them are really yeah They're just TLC. Yeah, they're chasing waterfall stuff. Yeah, I saw I saw a billboard. They're just Stop man. I can't have you else not there. You know, I was a big fan of
Starting point is 00:08:19 All right, are you guys are you guys watching all the news right now on just all these gyms that are slowly starting to open up and the regulation? What's happening? This is not going to be good. It's wild. So bake clubs, let me find it really quick. It's like post-apocalyptic. It's just they're opening up with these new, and they're releasing kind of their strategies, like how we're going to reopen.
Starting point is 00:08:38 So bake clubs, this was in a local news outlet. Bake clubs talked about what they're going to be doing and how they're going to reopen. They're going to be reopening, so they're going to be taping off 10 by 10 pods, so 10 by 10 spaces that are considered workout pods, and you're going to be reserving these 10 by 10 workout spots, pods. They're going to be limiting their capacity at 25%. So 75% less people now can use their facility.
Starting point is 00:09:10 There's no way that's last. That's strange vibe that's gonna be. For group classes like yoga, there's gonna be taped boxes on the floor, so you have to stay in that little segment. You cannot bring your own mat. The sports courts are gonna be repurposed with cardio equipment, so they have room for,
Starting point is 00:09:26 you know, spacing, spacing them way out. Jim's are just not that profitable to start with. And there's been a misconception forever in our space that they're just money makers. They're not, they are not mass, and there's always exceptions to the rule. There's models or there's franchises, or there's bubbles that happen, you know, curves,
Starting point is 00:09:46 for an example. Sure, if you got in on the front end of curves, you might have got rich being the first, you know, 500 people that got into that business. But I mean, look where it's at today. So there's bubbles right now that have happened in our space that are extremely popular. They're trendy right now.
Starting point is 00:10:01 People are making decent money off of them. But long-term wise, gyms in general just don't profit a ton of money. They interviewed the COO of 24-Fitness Carl Sanft, and they said, so what do you think about when they reopen and stuff? And this is very typical. You got to have the marketing phrase, right? Of course. So he says, it's going to be a reimagined experience.
Starting point is 00:10:24 Reimagined. I feel so bad laughing. Imagine me in you. He can't come out and say, you can't. You got to separate him. You can't come out and be like, yeah, it's going to suck. Yeah. Wait, no, do you know, okay, now we were there really young,
Starting point is 00:10:39 Justin was there young too, but not as young as you and I. Do you remember when that started to come together for you like just the corporate bullshit? Like I remember you know being on the morning emails in my like early 20s and like so bought into the company and like you would get a message like that and you're like and you would spin it to your staff. Like yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:57 Dude it's gonna be amazing. This new thing we're gonna do now and people are gonna be, we're gonna save the, like you'd go down and pitch it like this. So here's the new comp plan. Yeah. So imagine, Finn. Re-imagined.
Starting point is 00:11:07 Now re-imagined it, right? That's what it's gonna be like. No, I mean, you know, terms make a big difference. The way you, I mean, politics does this exceptionally well. Anytime a new bill is passed, whatever the name is, it does the opposite. That's like a rule of thumb. Well, it doesn't just say,
Starting point is 00:11:23 like the Patriot Act opposite. You know what I mean? Opposite. Anything that says freedom, opposite. You know what I'm saying? I mean, it's the old time you're reading. Well, it just says as a great point too, is that when they would roll out comp plans,
Starting point is 00:11:36 I mean, I remember, so I was there. I had to spin that all the time. Oh yeah, I was there 10 years, and in the 10 years, I had to hand out to my staff eight different comp plans. So basically almost one a year. And by about the third one, I think, I started to piece it together like, wait a second, this is not ever in the favor of my staff.
Starting point is 00:11:57 And obviously once you really understand business and scaling something to that magnitude, a comp plan change is always in the favor of the company. That's an easy way for them to save money. Right. But when they would put it out, they would position it as an opportunity for you to make more money.
Starting point is 00:12:15 So if you've learned to create a new position, that you could advance to, we're gonna pay you less hourly, but look, if you sell this much more, you actually could make more money per year. I try harder. I mean, I used to irritate that crap out of me when they would do that, but I wasn't there
Starting point is 00:12:33 for nearly as long as you were. I don't know how the hell you lasted. Well, you know, as much as I talk trash, I liked it. I loved work, I still today sometimes miss it. I mean, that was a fun environment. I would never replace it for what we've created for ourselves here. I've never loved something as much as what we get to do now.
Starting point is 00:12:53 But I did love the atmosphere. It fed right into my personality. Just I was around lots of people. It was a team environment. It was competitive. Lots of energy. everybody that's coming into that place, either working there or working out are there to better themselves. And so that environment, I just, I ate it up, dude, I loved it.
Starting point is 00:13:14 And I remember, as the comp plan's always got worse and worse, and I always found a way, I was the, the small percentage of, even though the comp plan got shitty, or I found a way to still make more money, knowing that it probably hurt the other 90%. And so I was okay. And I always said, man, if you would have to pay me probably close to double what I was making there to convince me to leave. And after a while, that's like a system.
Starting point is 00:13:38 And you're just there and you're doing it, you're enjoying it. Yeah. Yeah. Super hard. No, not at all. Yeah, shit, by year five or six, I had really got comfortable with what I needed to do
Starting point is 00:13:50 to be successful and felt good. And in my area, I'd built the name for myself. So yeah, no, it was a fun job. I used to have a lot of fun. I remember one time to try to sell more apparel because in the front of the club, we'd sell workout clothes. To sell more apparel, I you know, in the front of the club we'd sell workout clothes. To sell more apparel, I had a couple of my sales guys put on the girls, like workout apparel and I'd make them go take in a Robys class or whatever.
Starting point is 00:14:12 And then we'd make announcements, you know, go to the, take the class and watch Paul wear, you know, people. Well, you were at Hillsdale when they did that, did the runway show, didn't they? Wasn't that where you were there? Was that not when you were there? That was a big deal. Then I do a runway show. They did like a, they modeled all they turned the lights out and then
Starting point is 00:14:27 down the walkway they had all the all the staff come through and like yeah that was smart. It was clever. Yeah things you back then you could do that like now liability turned the lights off you get sued all this bullshit you know but those are the days that you could do create. Yeah the whole space is going to be very interesting to watch over the next couple of years. It's funny this morning. What we've been talking just amongst ourselves about investing, you know, our own personal money. And when you're, you know, when you're trying to invest, I think it's really smart. By the way, I'm not an investment expert.
Starting point is 00:14:55 So just this is my own opinion. But I think it's smart to kind of stay in your lane because it helps you with your temperament, you know, because if I invest in it in fitness companies, I can weather the storm more knowing what's happening with the trends. And so we've been talking about investing in companies like Peloton, right? Peloton is a, it's a publicly traded company and we figure, God, it's probably gonna, they're probably gonna do well because more people are gonna work out at home, less people working out at gyms. So we've been talking about this for a while. And we were all the time I was getting shares like the other day, none of us did wake up this morning.
Starting point is 00:15:29 They're up like five or 10 dollars, right? Some all pissed off and I said to, and I shouldn't know him better. This is the worst person. The worst person to sleepy bear. To tell this to his Adam, right? So I send a, you know, tax and I'm like, yeah, but we fucking,
Starting point is 00:15:43 we said hair and be gone again. We should've acted, right? and then I just said him off to he's he coffers calls everybody The stock member this is the number one rule and investments of stock market by low say hi style sell high right the markets already up It's already got up Adam's, put all the money in, just buy it back. Yeah. I'm like, wow, dude, come. So mad, bro. So mad, we are. But I do think Peloton is gonna be a good,
Starting point is 00:16:14 an interesting, I mean, this is my, again, my own personal investment, but I think this will be an interesting place to look. Well, because they're a tech company, right? Like for the most part. So they have a good, I think the infrastructure for that business is sound in terms of like what they're trying to create, like this new platform of how to create the experience of it.
Starting point is 00:16:34 Like tech companies need to be the ones driving that, but also, you know, the fitness element of it is, it's definitely going to evolve more into the home at home tech training. They're by sales 66% went up. 66% increase in bike sales. Those are expensive those bikes. Yes, they are. And of course, a lot of that's driven from COVID, right? Of course, there was a bunch of people that had probably been on the fence for a long time that were considering getting one. And because now they're stuck at home, I mean, I have a handful of people very close to me that's exactly what happened. So that to me isn't the major indicator.
Starting point is 00:17:06 They've just established himself in a space that is, I don't think it's gonna go away anytime soon. No, it's gonna grow. It's gonna grow. And they're sure. The only real competitor they have right now is Soul Cycle. Soul Cycle is done there, bike.
Starting point is 00:17:19 They have a very strong hold on that the cycling community already. So if you are already in love with that brand, so they're gonna have a piece of the pie too. But it's still brick and mortar, like that's their specialty, which is gonna take a bit for them to transition. Right, I mean, but I could argue with that that that's also why it'll do well because they've already established a strong community. They have a strong community and then they pivot into something else. It's just like us, they got the fans of yeah, if we were to pivot into anything related to fitness, even if it has nothing to do with what we currently do right now,
Starting point is 00:17:48 I would think that we would do okay because we have a community already. So, Soul Cycle has done that. They will own a piece of the pie, but I just think that Peloton is so far ahead of everybody in that space that they will be competitive for years to come. And they're also like that. And they're also not just gonna be the bikes.
Starting point is 00:18:04 They're gonna offer other. Yeah, they already do. Right. And they're also like that part. And they're also not just going to be the bikes. They're going to offer other. Yeah, they already do. Right. And they're going to keep growing with that. And if you think, like again, this is our space, right? We're in the fitness space. And so I think our opinion is much more than just the gas. I think we have a pretty educated opinion.
Starting point is 00:18:19 Of course, we could totally be wrong. But I think in the near future, I don't know what it's going to look like in 10 years or five years, but I think in the next year, I can pretty confidently say that gym attendance will be lower. That's my confident guess or estimation, but I don't think less people are gonna be working out. I think what you're gonna see is more working at home,
Starting point is 00:18:42 and so tech company is like Peloton, it feels like a smart place to go, a smart buy. I don't see them slowing down. In fact, I think they're gonna start going up as we continue to make it fun to me of saying bye bye bye, but that's how I feel. I feel like it's not, and this is where I'm not, I'm not an expert at reading the market
Starting point is 00:19:02 and watching and trying to time a perfect buy. This is just, yeah, this is our space and it's like, I would still bet that where it's at, even with the spike today, it'll be still much higher than that a year, two year, three year from now. It's a buy and hold in my opinion. It's not something that I'm speculating on, oh, this is the perfect place to buy it out and then try and sell it. It's the market.
Starting point is 00:19:24 So interesting too. Some shares just make no sense, like Tesla just does not make any sense why it's so damn expensive. Even Elon says, and his own tweets, I'm going to buy this shares are too expensive. This is too damn much. Did you see Elon, who he just partnered with? No. Tom Cruise. Why? What?
Starting point is 00:19:42 I'm gonna tell you dude, Tom Cruise has been making moves man. Like I brought him up not too long ago obviously because of Top Gun and how he's trying to do all these revolutionary ways to film being up in the air with these fighter jets and everything and like bringing in that IMAX experience like legit inside the cockpit. Well, he's taking it to a whole nother level by now
Starting point is 00:20:03 partnering with Space Axe and NASA NASA and they're already in plans of Shooting an action movie in space Mr. Scientology himself. I was just gonna say I think Tom Cruise just wants to get closer to Lord Zine He just wants to go to planet Zine or build build his own Westworld Right, no, that might be the one man. He's making moves. You guys saw Elon had a kid. Did you guys see that? I didn't. You didn't see what he named his kid?
Starting point is 00:20:28 Yes, no, I did. Okay, how do you pronounce that? It's high. It's like, oh, really? Yeah, it is, but the way, I think it's time. It's Chad. Yeah, it's Chad. He's got the fuck, wow.
Starting point is 00:20:37 Wow, he's like little, but the way he named him, he used all these, yeah, symbols that are, you know. It looks like an A that goes into an E and then like I don't know what they're called I know it's really smart people know and so I think if you put an alien higher glyphics, you know I haven't seen it. I don't want to see what he's called. Come on. I think it's here. I think if you pronounce it It's Kyle. Oh come on. It's like you remember when Prince changed his name to that symbol. Yeah, yeah So you know, yeah, you're gonna call him Elon Sun. Elon Sun. Okay, was that because he was getting himself out of a record
Starting point is 00:21:06 contract though? I think there was something behind that. Why he did that? So he was able to kind of like get bypassing kind of loophole. I tell you what dude, I so bad. I'm not like this normally. This is not at all the kind of personality that have or who I am, but I really want to be Elon's friend.
Starting point is 00:21:21 Oh, he's, dude, and he just be real. I'm real gonna get it. I can't wait to listen to you. You don't think he would be awkward. Bro, I love weird people. Of you, Laurence Friend. Dude, and you just keep on reagan again. I can't wait to listen. You don't think he would be awkward. Bro, I love weird people. Of course he'd be awkward. I mean, we all like weird people, but as a friend. Huh?
Starting point is 00:21:32 I think he'd be great now. I would love to sit down. Bro, it just, it doesn't, whether you believe in God or not, it just doesn't work out that way, dude. You get all the one way conversation. You get all this brilliance, you get social awkwardness. That's just part of it, dude. It just comes with the cards.
Starting point is 00:21:44 It's like, you don't get to be that brilliant, and then also hella cool. Yeah, I'm not gonna go, what do you mean cool? Like imagine staying down with them, smoking a joint and be like, hey man, what do you think about a flying car? All you would feel is awkward is that interview, did. That was great.
Starting point is 00:22:00 It was awkward. You think so? Yes, it was. It was great, because everyone got to seem to get high, but it was awkward. See, there's the name right there, It was great because everyone got to seem good-hi, but it was awkward. See, there's the name right there, Doug. Can you, you can't expand that, can you? It's like, it's, those letters right there, watch.
Starting point is 00:22:12 What does that say? It's like X-A-E-A-12. It's like X-A-E-A-12. It's like X-A-E-A-12. It's like X-A-E-A-12. It's like X-A-E-A-12. And that's Kyle. That means Kyle. I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I don't know. I'm like, seriously, my mind's blown if that means Kyle.
Starting point is 00:22:26 Yeah, somebody, wait a wait a wait a wait a make sure your kid gets beat up in elementary school. I know. I guarantee you right there. Where'd it go, dad? If he takes after his dad, ain't nobody gonna beat him up. He's gonna be all, you can probably be half cyborg.
Starting point is 00:22:37 Yeah, exactly. He's not gonna prepare any cyborg. I'm sure he's gonna neural link him and everything right away. Did you guys see our buddy, James Smith, Joe DeFranco's partner? Did you see what happened to him? No.
Starting point is 00:22:48 Oh, you guys didn't see that? I think he posted in our, I thought it was in our form. Maybe it was just on his Facebook feed. He ordered a bunch of equipment online. God, hell adduped. Whoa. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:59 What do you mean? It took the money and the- They were advertising like a warehouse equipment or all kinds of a warehouse type of, you know, warehouse equipment or all kinds of it, like a warehouse type of, you know, broken massive sale. Yeah, exactly. And then they had a bunch of equipment. So he ordered it and it was like a bait and switch type of deal. They sent them just like old rusted crappy weight, barbell dumbbell stuff.
Starting point is 00:23:16 It was nothing. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, a pallet still showed up to his house, but it was like fucking junk. Shenanigans. That's, you know, that the, the, the scams on Jim equipment. I've exploded. Oh, we, I mean, we it was like fucking junk. Shenanigans. That's it, you know that the scams on Jim equipment, I've exploded. Oh, I mean, we talked about this off air,
Starting point is 00:23:29 I don't think we talked about on air that we were speculating that already, like, you know, with 670% increase in at home equipment sales, you know, there's a lot of opportunists that see that and are like, oh man, there's gonna be some suckers that are gonna buy into this for sure. Dude, I saw somebody post on,
Starting point is 00:23:44 what is it on Facebook where you could buy things? That's, isn't there like a segment there where you could sell, anyway, they have like a segment there where you can buy a sell stuff? Someone was selling a crappy home gym equipment, you know, it wasn't even Olympic barbell, it was the skinny barbell with the little skinny way, all of them rusty, the bench had tape on it,
Starting point is 00:24:03 keeping it from, you know from tearing and half or whatever. It was selling for like $2,000. Did you see the meme? What? Did you see the meme? The meme that's going around, someone posted in our forum this. It was a meme of, you know, like there was four,
Starting point is 00:24:15 it was a quadrant, right? So it was four images. Three of the images were like, you know, one was like a set of dumbbells, one was like a barbell, right? And it was like $2,000, $1,500, you know, $900 and then a house in Virginia, $750. That's a fucked up our market is a lot of the place. That's so messed up. Dude, you want to talk about stupid stuff in Spain, you know, they're actually in Europe, Spain has one of
Starting point is 00:24:38 higher rates of COVID and they're trying to, you know, take care of the whole situation. But people are up in arms because the Spanish government there did something a little controversial. What's up? They sprayed their beach with bleach. Oh, brilliant. They tell you what they're doing. They actually went through.
Starting point is 00:24:58 Yeah, let's wash that into the ocean. They actually kill all the life. Went through and bleached, like just blasted the sand of the speech With a bunch of with a bunch of bleach to prevent, you know any viruses I mean isn't the sun doesn't the sun kill yeah viruses and stuff to that was my thought. Yeah. Oh my god So environmentalists are all up in arms because of all the kill how could something like that even get passed to get done There's got to be somebody who had to sign up. Brain idea. Yeah, sign off on that. Yeah, good idea. Let's fly some bleach over that. Just drop it on. Bleach kills everything. Exactly. How do we how do we solve this problem?
Starting point is 00:25:31 Wait, doesn't bleach kill it? Let's just kill everything. Yeah. Let's all drink it. Nuke it. Yeah. Idiots. Anyway. So that and then there's this this these inventors that came out with one thing about emergencies and scary situations is sometimes it pushes or oftentimes it pushes innovation through the roof. Apparently there's this surface that you can put on things that makes them antibacterial for like years. So you can like cover a table in this, this is just in a test, but they can cover it with the spray that then will make it anti-bacterial for like a year. Scotch card. Yeah, no.
Starting point is 00:26:08 Scotch card, 10th on. It's called stains. That's not the same thing. This is how Scotch card works. I mean, it's like the same thing. I mean, spray those at my shoes. Your dog could shit on your couch and you're fine. I mean, I think it's like the same concept, right?
Starting point is 00:26:21 No, dude, that's not the same thing. Hey, I saw our good buddy, Jordan Siet posted something in defense of Adele. And I tried to look it up and I didn't know. Obviously, I saw her picture. She just, she's just like one of those people who like posts like once every six months and everybody goes bananas. One of the most talented singers I've seen her live. Oh, yeah. Oh, absolutely. One of the most talented singers. I've seen her live. She's like, oh, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:26:45 Wow. She puts on an amazing show. She like does this whole thing where she like, kind of like tell, why I liked it so much was it, I wasn't like an Adele diehard fan or some shit. I just went to the concert. And when I went there, I learned all about her through her singing.
Starting point is 00:27:00 So between every song, she kind of tells her story. Oh, that's awesome. Just a really cool way. And she's so talented, she's someone who could sit on a stool and sing her whole concert and you're like blowing away. Yeah, very, very talented. So here's what happened. It's gonna get you guys gonna get annoyed by it.
Starting point is 00:27:12 But anyway, so she lost a ton of weight, okay? Posted a picture of it, okay? And people were congratulating her. Now other people are up in arms and saying that congratulating someone for losing weight is body-shaming people. Because you shouldn't celebrate. Wait, is that still happening?
Starting point is 00:27:33 Yeah. Because, come on. Didn't this whole pandemic put a backhand slap to that? No, no, apparently not. So people were like, congratulations. Oh my God, that's so great. And then other people were like, well, you shouldn't celebrate that because your body is shaming. And that's not always a good
Starting point is 00:27:48 thing and this and that. Can you, what the hell is going on here? It's just, that's, I mean, this needs to end. Yeah. I'm, I'm done, you know, pandering to that stuff. Or is it just going to get worse? Help is health. We're going to be the old guys that are talking about how ridiculous it is for, I mean, we are ready. I know, when we get like this, I feel like, man, I do we just accept it. Dude, this is the direction that we're going. It's gonna be so. Kick your battles.
Starting point is 00:28:10 That's not one. I honestly, you know what I think, honestly? I think it's number one, it's a lot of virtue signaling. And what does that mean? We're fucking soft. Yeah, virtue signaling means you want people to think of Routrois, so you signal, you're not actually virtuous,
Starting point is 00:28:25 I'll give you guys an example. We have a friend who always talks about how we need to pay more taxes because it helps more people pay more. So I asked her, so how much more do you pay in your taxes? She's like, well, I don't. I said, well, you can, you know there's a form in your taxes, you can actually pay more if you want to.
Starting point is 00:28:41 Of course you don't, because your virtuous signal, you want everybody to think you're a good person, reality is your actions actually Of course you don't, because you're virtuous signaling. You want everybody to think you're a good person. Reality is your actions actually show that you don't believe what you're saying. So I think people want to virtue signal and show everybody how, oh yes, this is not, this is body shaming. And then the other thing too, is I honestly think
Starting point is 00:28:56 people need to feel like they have a voice. And so they just, they find a way to be enraged over something silly like someone losing a weight. It's just insane to me. So apparently you can't congratulate her for weight loss because it's body-shaming people. Yeah, that's horseshit. Yeah, what is the world-c
Starting point is 00:29:20 Yeah, today's post, they posted the the jungle gym in like 1920. Oh You've seen that image before no kid would have survived. Yeah, it's like 40 feet in the air like month Yeah, I have those vertical ladder. Yeah, I remember that I posted it my story today because I'm like and I literally so it's funny You bring this up. I mean obviously none of this was planned and I it was just on my mind like we are just getting so soft Yeah, I'm saying like this, this is just, could you imagine if someone built that right now? Like, that would be insane. Bro, I'll tell you what, when I talk,
Starting point is 00:29:50 anytime I talk to my grandfather, I feel like the biggest, like, worst of all time. Anytime. I would, my grandfather, remember, this is true now, it's 100% your story. My grandfather at the age of 11, 11 years old, would sneak on to train, sometimes have to ride on the top of them, and 11 years old travel to other towns, try to sell food, potatoes,
Starting point is 00:30:14 because he'd have to pay whatever, try to make money, get back on a train, come back home, and sometimes this was two days later to bring the money to his mom. 11 years old. So what I think is it's society gets easier and easier. We just all become weaker and weaker. And it's just society's so easy now that we have. Oh, I know. My grab was in two wars and then was stationed up in Alaska and got frostbite on his foot. And almost had a cut off his foot off and his foot
Starting point is 00:30:41 was just disgusting after that. It's just like, what are we could playing about? Now you have an ingrown toenail. You have to take the job work. Well, it's funny when you think about the unintended consequences from this is that, we've made it easier for ourselves physically, but it's probably arguably mentally more challenging now
Starting point is 00:30:58 because of that, right? What's different, I'd say the mental challenges are still, they were met trust me, they were challenged back then. But the difference is it's a different type of challenge. They were challenged more physically, right? You know, not being able to get food. Sure, but you mean it's mentally challenging? Yeah, but I mean, it switches you over to survival
Starting point is 00:31:13 more real quick, you're gonna die if you don't eat. I mean, that's a whole different than pondering how I feel about myself for months at a time. Bro, my great grandmother had like 15 kids, nine survived. You know what I mean? You just lose kids. When you talk to them about that, I would talk to my grandfather about this.
Starting point is 00:31:27 It's like, yeah, kids died all the time. Like if you had 10 kids, people would assume that you didn't have 10 kids. You had probably 13 kids. And one of them died from the fever one time. They're the kid, oh, he fell down a hole and died. And this one over here, you know, had some kind of weird disease
Starting point is 00:31:43 we didn't know about. Like this just happened. Yeah, but I would think that makes you more mentally resilient because of that. I think it changes your perspective for sure. Well, yeah, that's what I mean. It makes you more mentally resilient when you've had to go through things like that
Starting point is 00:31:54 where we, us today, like the wind blows the opposite direction and we get fucking freaked out. It's probably, it's probably true. Oh, thank God you only lost a hand. Oh, come here. You're good now. All right, go back to school. You know what I mean? we are turning into old men.
Starting point is 00:32:07 Listening to us talk right now. We totally are. Yeah. It's happening. When I talk to my kids about like school and stuff like that, I was talking to my son and I'm like, have you ever seen a, a fight at school? He's like, um, there almost was a fight. One like a verbal one on face. This guy yelled. Yeah. You know,
Starting point is 00:32:24 it's straight. I know that their schools were fights and stuff like that happen, but just in my comparison from how I grew up to my kid, like my son's a freshman and he's never seen a fist fight at school. Really? Never seen a fist fight at school.
Starting point is 00:32:36 Wow, that's great, but it's, I can't even imagine that. Not bro. We had batteries thrown at us. That's like fucking shit, you not dude. Like what dude like one of my friends got punked and bullied so hard They made him like stripped down naked and climb up of the flag post in front of everybody through batteries out of yeah Messed up
Starting point is 00:33:01 Refreshman, you know, that's what they did freshman I mean, I got thrown in a dumpster as a freshman, but that was it. That was it. That was so glad it didn't happen to me. By the time I was a freshman, I probably got into a dozen fights at school and after school and all that stuff, even more than that. It was just, you know, and I'm not saying it was better.
Starting point is 00:33:20 I think that's a bad thing, but there are bad things that happen to you have the potential to teach you good lessons Yeah, and so by you know by the time I got older, you know, you become a little more assertive and stuff And so I'm talking my son about this. I'm like he's like, well, how do you how do you like what if you hit someone? What does that feel like? I'm like, damn you you have no idea Yeah, you know like what that what that's like, you know Let's sign up for some boxing. Yeah, give him some juj-jitsu now. Yeah, that's the move. Randomly push him down the stairs every now and then, you know.
Starting point is 00:33:47 Just throw some. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Challenges like that. I have a random fact. I've been like meaning to lay on you guys here. Dude, so my mind was blown because I was like looking up all these like creature things and there was this article about a tarantula and how it has its own pets. Tarantulas have their own pets?
Starting point is 00:34:06 It has a pet, like it keeps a frog around and they have this like mutual understanding. What? The frog will basically eat all the insects around while it's laying in its eggs. So this is all for like, it's trying to protect its eggs while it's going out to hunt and do all this stuff. And so the frogs are eating insects while the spiders out hunting.
Starting point is 00:34:29 So how are they helping each other? Well, so it allows the frog to stay there with them. But why? Protection. I don't know. Yeah, wait, I'm confused here. Okay, so there's a- This sounds like a shit.
Starting point is 00:34:42 I know. This is, maybe gets eaten later. So it sounds like one of my son's child books. I still can't figure out. You know what I'm saying?. Okay, so there's like a shinedil. I know this. I said, maybe gets eat later. So, it sounds like one of my son's child books. I still can't figure out. You know what I'm saying? I don't understand this. No, it's okay.
Starting point is 00:34:50 So, yeah, so the frog, like, like, it allows him to live there. I know you guys can relate his dads right now. Yeah, like, you're like, what the fuck? This is the story that you make sense. This is it. No, he's there. He gets an abundance of bugs that come through there. You know, to protect them
Starting point is 00:35:05 Okay, so the frog stays there eats bugs. Yes, the tarantula doesn't eat the frog But why does a tarantula leave the frog because he's just cool with them. Yeah That's that's the summary of the story. That's and this is a true thing. This is true. This is true. Did you find images? It's a frog pet True, this is true. Did you find the image of it's a frog pet? Right, well, yeah, how's it a pet? How many of them are just for homies? I don't know maybe they're friends, but it seems like it's a little bit, you know, one side and one side It like it could eat them at any minute now when you read this Were you did you have an edible?
Starting point is 00:35:39 Maybe you might have confused two stories. No You might have confused two stories. No, you're not understanding guys who get this. I guess, well, because I'm trying to picture it. So first of all, I don't understand what the mutual agreement is. Well, yeah, where do they, like, first of all, does he not get killed? The people.
Starting point is 00:35:54 The people who live underground in holes, right? And frogs are like in puddles and sheds. So where do they, where do they, where do they go to sleep there? Where do they chillin' at? Oh, wow, these are like huge difference in size here. Yeah. So the tranchil is massive.
Starting point is 00:36:06 And maybe he's just saving the frog to eat later. Well, that's what I thought. But I guess not. Like, he's cool with hammer. It's almost like you know how that shark has like the cleaner fish that like cleans all the parasites like the stuff off of them. Oh, the frog protects the spider's eggs.
Starting point is 00:36:22 That's what I was saying. You did not explain that well. Did you understand that? No. I understand it in my head. No, no. I don't know why you guys are getting this. It's a little strange for me.
Starting point is 00:36:32 Because you tell it like the children's story. That's the thing. Just like three words that I gotta put. I gotta piece it together. It's a huge year of adventure. Does frog better be careful? I don't trust spiders at all. It's a big double cross-cut. I feel the same way too. I know, right? I don't know like the first
Starting point is 00:36:48 frog that was, you know, he was like cool with like when did that happen? You have to describe the audience too that the difference in size. Oh, he's a tiny frog. Yeah, I guess it's just, yeah, I mean, it was a tiny frog. I was I was imagining like two the same size and like, how would they how they working together? But. So you guys are also not fans of spiders, not as much as me, but you're also, what kind of spiders are the worst for you? Cause the smaller ones.
Starting point is 00:37:11 Really? So I used to have, we used to have transulas in where we grew up. And, you know, we'd come out and they'd be all over the place all the time. So in October is when they breed and you'd see them everywhere. So they would get in our house.
Starting point is 00:37:23 And they're... Yeah, they don't bite, they shoot their hairs in defense, right? So it's like nothing. So it's not even, they walk on roads and everything. Yeah, we still let them crawl on us, everything. It was like, I did not, I got used to them because we lived around them all the time. And I realized I don't like like little spiders,
Starting point is 00:37:39 you know, that you can't, you feel, but you can't see. Like a tranchilla is not sneaking up on you. You see a tranchilla, like, hey Stan, I don't like the ones that have like the big butts and they look like they're sweaty, you feel but you can't see. Like a tranchilla is not sneaking up on you. You see a tranchilla, like, hey Stan, I don't like the ones that have like the big butts and they look like they're sweaty, you know? They're just like, they're like sheen, there's a sheen on them, like a bright color, you know. Oh, that one's fucking vaminous.
Starting point is 00:37:57 Yeah. Vendemis. Yeah, I don't like the sharp ones. Like when they're furry and stuff, it doesn't look as bad, but the ones that look all edgy. Have you seen the ones in Australia? Like the videos of people catching them with a bowl? Well, they get big ones out of the...
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Starting point is 00:38:36 Lama. Lama. What? Yeah, Lama. We are just trying everything. Wait. Yeah, really? Yeah, yeah, Lama.
Starting point is 00:38:43 Lama's produced apparently is antibody that is anti-COVID, so they're examining this to see if it's- What does that mean? So if we inject theoretically, you have COVID, we inject you with Lama antibody. Those antibodies neutralize the virus, you're okay now. Would it like a scientist get spit on the face or something and it was like,
Starting point is 00:39:04 they've, or we really get that aggressive that we're trying everything right now. Would you like a scientist get spit on the face or something? And it was like, hey, are we really that aggressive that we're trying everything right now? I have no idea. You handle the llamas, you go with the frogs. Yeah. How did that come up? John, write down all the animals that are just just the long enough.
Starting point is 00:39:16 We're gonna need to see them. We've got down till. Yeah. Something's happening, it's working. Alpeca didn't work. What else do we got? All right. Let's try that one.
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Starting point is 00:40:01 Next but not a bit. This, I like this question. Here's why. When I was a new trainer, when people would tell me that they can only work out one or two work times a week, I literally would think that's a waste of time. And in fact, I know I turned away potential clients
Starting point is 00:40:17 because they refuse to commit to working out at least three days a week or four days a week. Oh, you're not ready yet. Yeah, in fact, part of my strategy when I was a new trainer, I've always enjoyed discussing and being persuasive, right? So I get this person in front of me and I say, how many days a week can you commit to the gym? And they say, oh, just one day a week.
Starting point is 00:40:35 And then the rest of the time, my goal was to persuade them to commit to three or four days a week because in my eyes, one day a week just wasn't effective. Now, I realized after years of doing this, literally five years maybe, that it was a terrible strategy. The strategy was terrible because the reality is if you're going from zero days a week of working out to any more than that, days of working out, that's a benefit. And on top of that, it's not just a physical benefit, it's beneficial because the way people develop long-term behavioral changes typically is a little bit at a time.
Starting point is 00:41:12 So later on my strategy became, hey, I can only work out one day a week and I'd say no problem, we'll design a workout around that and make sure it's as effective as possible. Now as far as how would I train someone? Well, if I'm only training them once or twice a week, first off, a lot of it depends on the person. If I need to focus a lot on mobility work,
Starting point is 00:41:30 which is usually the case with a brand new client, then most of my workout is going to be mobility work. As they progress and they need less and less of that special focus mobility work, more of it goes to traditional resistance training. If the person comes to me and they don't have tons of mobility issues, then I'll do a normal priming session or warm up, for example. Then I'm doing just a full body resistance training routine, and it's mainly revolving
Starting point is 00:41:57 around compound lifts, squats, overhead presses and rows and that kind of stuff. So I would do exactly the same thing, except I guess another depends, right, is sometimes somebody who says one to two times a week, it's because they're saying that maybe just Saturday and Sunday they have an option to work out and so the days are back to back. So that's the only way I would split it. I agree with Sal, someone who's probably only able to commit
Starting point is 00:42:20 to one or two days a week is probably also the clients that probably need a lot of mobility. So I would say that the bulk of my training only able to commit to one or two days a week is probably also the clients that probably need a lot of mobility. So I would say that the bulk of my training would be focused around their posture and dealing with any sort of chronic pain and those issues, then the other portion of it would obviously be a full body type of routine.
Starting point is 00:42:37 Unless it's back-to-back day. So if there are two days or back-to-back, then I would probably do a split where I went upper body one day, lower body the other day, and all the only difference that I do is, so let's say, Sal's riding it the way he just said, where he has a full body routine twice a week, he's probably gonna do two to three sets
Starting point is 00:42:57 of each body part on there. If I know that I'm only gonna get that body part once that week, I might do four to five, so I might do four to five sets for every body part in the upper body on one workout. And then the other workout, I would do four to five sets in the lower body workouts. If I was going to go back to back workouts, if I had a minimum of two to three days in between the two days, then I would do exactly what you alluded to, which is a full body routine with mobility work
Starting point is 00:43:25 is what that would look like. Yeah, brand new client. I mean, this would be something I would definitely start to build up their specific mobility routine, their priming session, you know, ahead of time to really focus in on that because they can repeat that the whole rest of the week as they, you know, have time available.
Starting point is 00:43:43 They can do that at their house. But I would slowly build on to that with, I'd take one compound lift and really try to teach them specifically the mechanics and the technique involved, and then have them practice it with lightweight. The only amount of time I'm allotted and go through that for a couple weeks until I can really build up, you know, trust that they're going to perform this exercise correctly throughout the rest of the week. You know, I want to add to something you said, Sal, that I think is important to reiterate
Starting point is 00:44:17 for the trainers that are listening is I too was like this where at the beginning I did not, I get frustrated with this client, I'd say, oh, you're not serious enough, or if you really want to see results, we need to be training at least three times a week if I want to see, and to be honest, later in my career, I actually preferred this too. I mean, this is, I would much rather, in fact, I found myself talking clients down
Starting point is 00:44:41 that were like all motivated because I had something coming up, or they're like, oh, I could give you five days a week. And I'm like, well, when was the last time you trained five days a week? And they'd be like, well, never. But I know now I have the time. Or then I would actually end up going,
Starting point is 00:44:53 you know, let's start off with just one or two times, build a really solid routine and a good habit. And then we could start to build off of that. Well, also, I mean, you're teaching them to fish. You're teaching them how to figure this out for themselves as well, like this type of a client versus somebody that's coming in and they're relying on you the entire time to just tell them what to do and be mindless, you know, about the entire program of it, like really spending the time to educate them in that one to two days that you have
Starting point is 00:45:20 available is going to be super worthwhile. Yeah, and, you know, you can actually get two days a week, you can get exceptional results. Oh yeah. That Doug worked out with me two days a week. Definitely. For the first, I think year or two, that we trained together. So Doug went from, you know, normal active guy to deadlifting
Starting point is 00:45:37 twice his body weight. And there's this before and after picture that I've posted in the past where you could see his abs on. That was two days a week of resistance right now. The other days he was active on his own normally, but really it was only two structured workouts a week. You can get very far with two really, really good resistance training work out. You can not only get really far, you can also maintain a decent physique at that.
Starting point is 00:45:57 I mean, I'm training that right now. One maybe two times of resistance training a week right now. Now, by no means am I impressive, but I also don't look like I don't work out, you know, and you can maintain, especially if you're programming as tight and you are doing the biggest bang for your buck movements, man, if you're deadlifting and squatting and overhead pressing and benching twice a week, you're going to have a pretty damn good physique and base. That's one of the things I love most about resistance training. It sends the signal, and then the body does the work.
Starting point is 00:46:28 So it's not like you're not manually building muscle there, like with cardio, you have to manually burn calories. With resistance training, you're setting the gears in motion. And so if it's effective, it can be infrequent. And that's one of the hallmarks of resistance training. It's one of the reasons why it's one of the best ways to exercise, especially with our current busy lifestyles. Next question is from Rebel Hammond.
Starting point is 00:46:51 Can you tell us your thoughts on the farmer's walk? They are so simple yet I don't see a lot of people incorporating them into their routine. Yeah, I never thought, you know, just in God, just in God. Oh, totally. So I didn't have, I thought of farmer's walks like a trainer, you know, just in God, just in God. I'm a little, just in God, I said it. Oh, totally. So I didn't have, I thought of Farmers Walks, like a trainer, you know, like, okay, it's good for stability, it's good for hand strength,
Starting point is 00:47:12 strengthens the back, it makes your body tight. Like the core activation, it's great for that. Like I understood it from a trainer perspective, but I'd never understood it from an experience perspective because I never made it a part of, I'd done them before, but the way I do them would be like occasionally, if I'm gonna have fun with somebody
Starting point is 00:47:28 in our workout or whatever. Never train them. Then we wrote the maps strong program. Now map strong was a workout program that was strong man inspired. And a big part of strong man training is farmer walks and that's part of their competition. You know, when they compete,
Starting point is 00:47:43 they have to carry things in their hands and walk with them. So I worked my way up to almost 500 pound trap bar farmer walks and I was training them consistently and I could not believe the muscle that I was building from doing them. It turned my whole body on. My traps, my back, the muscles, of course,
Starting point is 00:48:02 of the forearms and hands, shoulders, my legs got tight, I could feel my core working. I developed a brand new respect for the farmer's walk, and I consider it to be definitely a top 15, if not a top 10 exercise that people can do. Yeah, much like when you bring up the story about male carriers and your family and how that inspired you to come up with trigger sessions and saw what that did in terms of muscle development. The same with me in terms of playing with certain types of athletes in my career with various
Starting point is 00:48:36 sports that I was in. I always noticed there was a certain type of athlete that just had this inner power, this inner strength that was far superior than the other athletes. And most of them that I had experienced and had met were from different farm towns and different places where manual labor was like really rigorous manual labor was a part of their growing up.
Starting point is 00:49:02 And it's just one of those things building up this work capacity and building up this work strength, it's something that I think a lot of people don't really recognize how that also, like it really translates into your overall strength, which then propels you forward even more. So to add that in as something that you can frequently work on
Starting point is 00:49:27 and do it at the right dose to where it's not going to impede on the intensity of your regular foundational workouts, it's going to get you to be able to endure longer bouts of really strenuous type work in the gym. Well, think about it like this. We've made the case for isometrics on this podcast many of times, right? And I think that we all agree on the value of it and how undervalued isometric exercises are.
Starting point is 00:49:56 Name me an isometric exercise that is as intense and I know farmer walks you're moving so people don't think of it as an isometric exercise, but think about from your traps, down to your fingertips, down to your toes, with a load, which most people can carry 200 to 500 plus pounds, name me something that is that intense isometrically on your entire body from neck to your toes. And the posterior chain, which again,
Starting point is 00:50:22 we all try to voice that quite a bit. We don't consider movements throughout the day to activate and gain connection with your posterior chain very often. So this is another way to really bring that into your everyday life up everything from the neck to the fingertips to the toes. Name me one part of the body when you're holding 500 pounds and walking 30 yards, that is not complete. Everything's involved.
Starting point is 00:50:49 Everything is connected, everything is lighting at an intense level. It's not like a plane. It's also one of the most functional exercises. I mean, you are gonna do that in life. You are going to pick things up, walk with them, and hold them. And so it's a very fun, you get strong at farmer walks.
Starting point is 00:51:04 You just are strong. Well, a week and you've given the analogy that, you know, I've's a very fun, you get strong at farmer walks, you just are strong. Well, we can, you've given the analogy that, I've repeated a million times, Sal, with the whole speaker and amplifier, I would argue that it's probably one of the best ways to invest in your amplifier. Of all the central nervous system. Yeah, of all the things that you could do
Starting point is 00:51:22 to really strengthen your central nervous system, heavy farmer carries have to be up there with one of the top three, if not the things that you could do to really strengthen your central nervous system, heavy farmer carries have to be up there with one of the top three, if not the top one. And juice up them amplitudes. Next question is from Bong Rips and Booty Lix. Oh, this is what a fantastic name. We would be friends. When you find the balance that you guys talk about
Starting point is 00:51:41 with respect to diet, activity, and lean gains, would increasing cardio be more of a detriment than a help. No, it's, it's, it's, here's a deal. Okay, this all people always get confused. Nothing wrong. Well, maybe because of the first, you know, 500 plus episodes.
Starting point is 00:51:55 Well, we had to counter this abuse of a form of exercise. Look, cardio, cardiovascular activity can be very healthy. Anything overdone can be bad for you. That includes resistance training, okay? So if you do more cardiovascular activity and it's appropriate for you, no, it's not gonna be detrimental. It's gonna make you healthier.
Starting point is 00:52:13 It's gonna make you feel good. It's gonna improve your performance. In fact, as a level of cardiovascular activity, it will even help you build more muscle as long as it contributes to better health. Now, if your question is, is adding more cardio gonna reduce the amount of strength
Starting point is 00:52:26 and muscle-like and gain at extreme levels? Well, that depends also, that depends on the person. At some point, it will, because doing lots of cardio is teaching your body to improve its endurance, catabolic, and it's stamina and making you more efficient, where lots of muscle is not necessarily efficient with that type of stuff, so your body pairs muscle down, but there's nothing at all wrong with cardiovascular activity.
Starting point is 00:52:47 Now, I like to communicate cardio like this with people. I prefer to not tell people to purposely go out to do cardio, unless that's what they enjoy doing, in which case it's totally fine. But I'm talking to the average person, and they're like, hey, you know, what should I do to optimize my health? The cardiovascular component of the workout is going to be injecting daily walks into their day. It's just part of your day.
Starting point is 00:53:11 It's a behavior change rather than, you know, rather than making the time to go to the gym. If you attach it to things that you do throughout the day, it ritualizes it, which makes it more likely to continue. For example, if I connect it to breakfast lunch and dinner, I always have breakfast, I always have lunch, I always have dinner. If I connect to 20 minute walk to each of those, I'm much more likely to be consistent than if I have to go away to go to cardio or separate it from everything else.
Starting point is 00:53:38 But no, it's not detrimental, unless it's too much for you. And what determines if it's too much, your goals, your body, what else you're doing, your diet, the rest of your lifestyle. Well, yeah, or how much are it? Because this question, you say balance at first, which that's the key, right? The key is to have balance in it. Yeah, I think it serves its purpose to be in there. But then it says, would increasing cardio be more detriment? So if you're already balanced, right? If you're balanced and you're already intermittently doing it, or it's something you're consistently doing on a weekly basis already already and you're asking to increase it more, well, yeah, I mean, it may not serve you when it comes to building muscle.
Starting point is 00:54:11 That's good. I didn't even catch that. So if everything I'm doing is perfect, if I do something more of it, then what happens? Not perfect. Right. Yeah. So that's good. Next question is from Jake Analese 140.
Starting point is 00:54:23 What are some good strategies you guys have done or do When trying to study a certain topic. Oh, I talk about this all the time. You know What's funny is I learned what I'm about to communicate I learned part of this when I first became a personal trainer I Started to realize that because I was teaching fitness to my clients, I was actually learning it better because in order to communicate something, you have to really understand it well. So oftentimes when you learn something, you think, oh, I know this. Well, now I'll see if you could teach it.
Starting point is 00:54:59 The process of trying to teach it gets you to understand it more fully. So that's step number one for me is, when I'm learning something, and I'm sure people around me can sometimes be annoyed by this, but when I'm into something, I talk about it. I debate about it, I discuss about it. Part of that is the learning process for me.
Starting point is 00:55:16 It helps me really learn what I'm learning. The other side of this, the other point that I'll give is this. When you develop an opinion on a topic, seek out an opposing opinion, and I don't mean seek out a crappy opposing opinion, find somebody who you think has the best chance at changing your mind, find somebody who does a really, really good job
Starting point is 00:55:36 of arguing the opposite, and that will either help you develop your opinion more fully, or you'll change your mind because they've done a good job. I don't even think you have to go that far. I mean, we're spoiled today. It's how I Google now. So if I have and name anything, why eating meat is bad, why eating meat is good.
Starting point is 00:55:56 I always just write it right after I Google what I'm interested in, I Google the opposite of that statement. So whenever you're searching topics, just do that. And what's so amazing about Google is the stuff that people are sharing that is backed will normally surface towards the top. And I'll go, and I won't just read the first article on the top and definitely pay attention
Starting point is 00:56:17 if it's an ad versus something that has organically surfaced to the top of Google. And I'll read that whole first page. All five blogs and articles or studies related to that topic. And I'll put in maybe the belief that I have or the question that I have, and then I will then right afterwards Google the opposite, that support that is trying to support the opposite side of the argument. And then read all that supports that. And I think that everybody should train themselves to do this. And I think it's so amazing that we have this resource now that this didn't exist just
Starting point is 00:56:49 15, 20 years ago. It was hard. It was very hard. You would have to seek out. And a lot of times you end up reading a bunch of books that never got to your answer where you can literally just Google specifically, you know, whatever it is that either confirms your bias. And then the complete opposite.
Starting point is 00:57:04 And don't just stop by reading one, you know, I read a handful of articles and studies and blogs that support it. And then I take it to the next level after I've felt like I've informed myself. Now I go have that health and this is what I love about our relationship because even though the three of us
Starting point is 00:57:20 may seem like we agree all the time on the podcast, a lot of times we debate stuff, all the time we talk. And you probably heard more of it early on, but we do that challenge each other and hear opposing ideas on it. I think that's the best way to learn. Yeah, I like to read or listen to podcasts or audio books and then really digest what I'm, I wanna take my time really to, to let it resonate and then see what those, the main points are, then take that and then discuss in a conversation and try and find holes in it and then go look for something in an opposing argument.
Starting point is 00:57:56 But I think there's like a time period for me to really sit and meditate on what really was trying to be conveyed. And for me, it might take a little longer to then go to teach it, which is something I definitely agree with. I think teaching it is where you really start to understand something, because then now it's like, I've taken the concept, I've applied it, I've meditated on it, but now I'm trying to then duplicate that by presenting that to somebody else. And am I doing a good job in that?
Starting point is 00:58:31 Or do I really not understand for it? So to put it simply, seek out different ways of thinking about the same topic. So what are, because people think thinking and they think it's all the same, it's not. You have thinking in your mind, there's thinking on paper, no joke, if you write, try this, if you have an idea or you're mad at somebody,
Starting point is 00:58:52 you're pissed off at your friend, write it out, write out what you feel, and what you'll find is you start to process things a little bit differently, because it's a different form of thinking, then talk about it. Talking about it is another form of thinking. And then there's another way of thinking where you debate with someone else.
Starting point is 00:59:09 Now you're getting challenged on the way you think. Those are all different ways of thinking. And if you can take a topic and bring it through all of those, you're gonna come out with a lot of confidence in kind of how you feel because you've, you've gone through all those different things. But this requires open-mindedness. When I seek out debates on topics that I'm learning,
Starting point is 00:59:30 I seek out the PID and I typically do this online. I belong to these groups and I'll see somebody debating something so I'll go on and I'll debate it. I'll typically find the person who does the best job. And I'm literally, this is what I'm saying, I don't say this literally to the person, but this is essentially what I'm saying. I don't say this literally to the person, but this is essentially what I'm saying. I'm saying change my mind.
Starting point is 00:59:48 It would be like if you go to a car dealership and you tell a salesperson, if you can sell me this car, I'll buy it. That's literally what I'm saying to the person. Look, if you can convince me, I will be on your side. So do your best job convincing me. And then we go and we have this discussion about it. And if they fail, it's because I'm more confident in my opinion.
Starting point is 01:00:06 And if they succeed, well, that's phenomenal. I'm now better off than I was before. The other thing this takes, and I think this is why people struggle with this a lot, is courage. It takes courage to put yourself out there and stand behind something. Oh, someone. And know that you may be wrong. But you have to be okay with that. You have to be okay with, hey, I think this is how I believe
Starting point is 01:00:30 and this is what I've read and therefore, I'm gonna have this conversation or this debate with Sal, but people are so afraid to get proven wrong or to Sal or feel like an idiot afterwards that they don't do that. And I think this, this is a lot of, you know, in my early, early 20s as a trainer, this is a lot of my, where my growth came from was, I just wasn't afraid of that. I wasn't afraid to put myself out there, you know, even when I knew I was talking to
Starting point is 01:00:56 someone who was probably far more educated than I am, putting my ideas out there, getting them challenged, getting my paradigm shattered, probably being wrong, maybe even feeling like a little bit of an idiot, but okay, it's okay because you know what, now I understand, now I know, and now I'm smarter. Now we move forward. One place I can think of right now where that happened to me relatively recently
Starting point is 01:01:15 was through the childbirth process. I thought, up until I was an adult, I think I was 38, and I thought, man, childbirth is a super dangerous thing. It killed women for thousands and thousands of years and whatever. And we talked about it on a podcast. And I said, oh yeah, childbirth is a major killer and thank God for modern medicine. And a midwife, now midwives are experts at child delivery. Some people think their obese are, obese are actually surgeons.
Starting point is 01:01:44 Midwives specialize specifically in natural childbirth. delivery. Some people think their OBS are, OBS are actually surgeons, midwives specialized specifically in natural childbirth. So this midwife is in our form, she'll sell you're totally wrong. She's like, actually this is, you know, she gave me a lot of information. Now I could have been like, screw you, and you know, that's my, and I said, you know what? She's an expert. I want to see if she can convince me. So we had this long discussion. She sent me a couple documentaries. I did some more learning, and I realized I was totally wrong and it feels good. It feels good. But you have to be okay with being wrong. But if you're okay with it, then you come out of it and
Starting point is 01:02:15 it feels good because now I'm not wrong anymore. Now I have a better opinion about something that I was wrong about for so long. And with that, go to mindepumpfree.com and download all of our guides, resources, and books. You can also find the three best podcasts hosts in the universe. We're the three amigos. On Instagram, you can find Justin at Mind Pump Justin. You can find me at Mind Pump Salon, Adam at Mind Pump Atom. Oh, by the way, Doug is also on Instagram, believe it or not.
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