Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1301: Ways to Mimic Sled Pushes at Home, Correcting Pain Associated With Wearing High Heels, Tips for Dealing With Relationship Stress While Quarantined & More

Episode Date: May 27, 2020

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about ways to mimic the action of sled pushes at home, why heels aggravate knees and what to do about it, ways to deal with relationship stress while quarantined, and the topics they can't agree on. How you can still gain followers and not TRY to gain followers. (5:45) New product alert from Magic Spoon, Mind Pump’s staple foods as a kid & MORE. (9:47) Coffee and leanness. (14:48) Let the podcast wars begin! Mind Pump speculates on the future of the medium. (18:17) The benefits of full-spectrum hemp oil for feelings of anxiety. (28:39) The first version of Apple and Google's contact tracing app has arrived.  (31:54) What state will woo Tesla over? (33:17) The pros/cons of working from home and its impact on large tech companies. (35:08) (38:35) How diets really don’t matter. (40:02) Clever new delivery service from the pizza makers over at Chuck E Cheese. (41:00) Mind Pump on the future of A.I., how creative artists make money & MORE. (43:39) #Quah question #1 – Is there any way to mimic the action of sled pushes at home? (47:44) #Quah question #2 – I wear heels sometimes, but they aggravate my knees. Is there is certain muscle issue or a problem I have right now that would cause such problems? (51:51) #Quah question #3 – What are some ways to deal with relationship stress while quarantined with your partner? (55:00) #Quah question #4 – Are there any discussions or topics you guys had that you each completely disagree on or come to a conclusion on? (1:01:08) Related Links/Products Mentioned May Promotion: MAPS Starter ½ off! **Promo code “STARTER50” at checkout** Special Promotion: MAPS Anywhere ½ off!! **Code “WHITE50” at checkout** Visit Magic Spoon for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Regular Coffee Consumption Is Associated with Lower Regional Adiposity Measured by DXA among US Women THE PODCASTING WORLD IS NOW SPOTIFY VERSUS EVERYBODY ELSE Spotify Soars After Signing Rogan to Exclusive Podcast Deal Joe Rogan Takes $100 Million To Move Podcast To Spotify, Drops Apple, YouTube Visit NED for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! How Apple and Google plan to check the coronavirus spread with contact tracing Remote working takes off for Twitter, Facebook, tech companies Comparison of Weight-Loss Diets with Different Compositions of Fat, Protein, and Carbohydrates Chuck E. Cheese Launched A Delivery-Only Restaurant Under The Name 'Pasqually's Pizza & Wings' The Age of A.I. – YouTube Hit Makers: The Science of Popularity in an Age of Distraction – Book by Derek Thompson How to Use an Ab Wheel- Bear Crawl Core Exercise (Ab Roller Video 3 of 3) Mind Pump Webinar The 5 Love Languages: The Secret to Love that Lasts – Book by Gary Chapman MAPS Prime Webinar Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Joe DeFranco (@defrancosgym)  Instagram Ben Pakulski (@bpakfitness)  Instagram Ben Greenfield Fitness (@bengreenfieldfitness)  Instagram

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Saldas, Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this episode of Mind Pump, the world's top fitness health and entertainment podcast. We answer fitness and health questions that are asked by listeners, just like you. And the way we open the episode is by talking about current events, studies, we talk about our lives, sometimes we mention our sponsors. So let me give you the breakdown of what happened in today's Mind Pump podcast episode.

We started by talking about magic spoon. This is our favorite kids tasting cereal. It's high in protein, way protein, very, very low in carbs. I think there's no sugar. So it's like a great macro. It doesn't even make sense. It's a great macro profile, but it comes in flavors, like fruity flavors and blueberry and chocolate, birthday cake.

I think they had it at one point. I don't know if they still have that, but it's really, really good. They also have a brand new bowl and spoon that you could buy on their site. So you can look even more awesome as you eat this delicious high protein cereal. Anyway, look, we work with them. We have a discount for you.

If you go to the Mind Pump Magic Spoon link, here's where it is. Go to magicspoon.com forward slash Mind Pump. You'll get an automatic discount applied to your cereal. Don't forget to use the code mind pump. Then we talk about coffee and leanness. There was a study that showed that women who drank coffee were leaner than women who didn't drink coffee.

So it might have some fat burning effects kind of interesting. Yay coffee. Then we talked about Joe Rogan, his move to Spotify. How much Spotify's value went up in the market, what that could potentially mean for the podcast space. That's really cool. This is big news. Then I talked about how people are using

full spectrum hemp oil extracts like Ned to help deal with anxiety and stress of the current situation. Like right now a lot of people are a little stressed out, feeling a lot of anxiety. Canabinoids can help bring that down. CBD is one of them. Now, Ned makes full spectrum hemp oil.

Okay, so it contains high levels of CBD, but it also contains lots of other compounds that help work with the CBD. So it's a great product to use for feelings of anxiety. And it also has some other benefits like anti-inflammatory benefits. Now, because you listen to Mind Pump, you get a discount, go on their website,

hello-net.com, that's H-E-L-L-O-N-E-D.com-forge-mindpump, and you'll get 15% off your first purchase. Then we talked about Apple and Google, launching contact tracing software. Uh-oh, that might be a bad thing. Then we talked about Tesla potentially moving to Tulsa. Let's say that three times faster. I like that plan words.

Then we talked about Facebook. Now is gonna be only asking like 25% of their employees that come into work. So everybody else can work at home. That's kind of cool. I talked about a study that talked about how diets really don't matter. It's really about your behaviors,

what you said before. We talk about how Chuck E. Cheese is delivering pizza, but not under the name Chuck E. Cheese, so that's where they fool you because Chuck E. Cheese is pizza. It's a guy in creepy costume. It doesn't taste that good. And then we talked about AI. There's a show on YouTube that Justin loves. I'm obsessed with it. And they did this AI episode that was a little, I think, depressing. Then we got into answering the questions. Here's the first fitness question. Is there any way to mimic the action of sled pushes at home?

So you can drive sleds in the gym. They're great for lower body development. You can modify them for upper body development. What if you don't have a sled? What do you do instead? Next question. This person wears heels and gets knee pain. So they want to know how they can remedy that. So Adam gives all of his tips on how he prevents his knee

pain from wearing heels at home when no one's watching. The next question, what are some ways to deal with relationship stress while quarantined with your partner? Of course, we're fitness experts, but we like to talk about relationships too. So we give our input there. And the final question, this's personal wants to know if there's any topics that we disagree on completely that we can't come to a conclusion over. So when we disagree over and why am I always right? Also wrong. Also listen, we're having our Memorial Day apparel sale. Everything is on massive discount, it's happening right now at the Mind Pump Media page.

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Oh, shit, Doug, you know it's my favorite time in a week! He's back! He's back, yes. Finally. We had one big winner this week. We had zero reviews in Facebook. Wow. And very few in iTunes. So the winner this week for iTunes is Austin Bassett. You are the winner. Send that name. I just read to iTunes at MindPumpMedia.com include your shirt size and your shipping address. And we'll get that shirt right out to you. What's up with that post you did, bro?

I'm going to start an unfollow war with you. I didn't even see it ugly. I didn't know you were creeping on me like that. On what? On your follows. Oh, it's I mean, this doesn't mean anything. Oh, it means everything. This means everything.

That's all out of hats. It is pretty good. That's, you know, yeah, I can't I can't I can't claim on the coolest one in the group if I don't even have the most Instagram followers Yeah, right? That doesn't make you cool sure it does These days you know numbers don't lie ask any 12-year-old. Yeah Bro neatly what they ask you Exactly, I can't hang out with you. Remember that kid I told you I was playing basketball with?

That was like how I was getting drilled. How about you two followers? How many Twitter followers? How many Instagram followers? And then he said TikTok and then he's like, oh. You lost a bunch of? Yeah, I lost credit. I lost my street cred right away.

So, I put the 12 year olds. Yeah, it's a new standard. Yeah, man. I didn't even know that. Well, I mean, what are you gonna do? You know, I mean when we started my pump, what did you have 15 20,000? Was it something like that? I don't remember it was it was over 10. I know it was over 10. It's funny When did it shift from people that didn't care? They were the cool ones, right? And now it's like you have to care about having

At least followers and shit. It doesn't I don't think we were I think think that's half of how it does okay for us is that you don't. Yeah, I don't care. I mean like for kids. Oh, well it's because it's the only metric that can clearly see and understand. Yeah, and that's, and obviously, it's just unfortunate. There's still cool kids that are cool without having to post and try, you know what I'm saying?

I hope there is, man. Yeah, that's where the whole extra thing came from, right? What do you mean there's still cool kids? There's still cool kids that don't have to like, How do you know? Because I follow all the cool kids. Oh, yeah. So they like 500 followers?

No, it's pretty good. No, yeah. I mean, you could still gain followers and not be trying to gain followers. Oh, I see. You know what I'm saying? You don't have to be, there's obviously a large portion of people that are,

I just think you can tell when people are trying. I just think it's hilarious how people look at, especially if you're looking at it from a business perspective, they look at their followers and they'd be like, oh, we have 3000 followers. Like, if you had a brick and mortar business and 3000 people, you're rocking. Came by your store and walked around and looked around.

I mean, you would be incredible. Oh, I talk about this a lot when I do interviews is that, you know, if you were to just to spend the time to add value to that, you know, thousand to 3000 people versus trying to get more people looking at you, you'd be far more successful. From a business perspective, maybe not a popularity contest because there's people that still look at that,

oh wow, they're famous because they have this many. It's just, still, I mean, you were just talking about how you share with your son, right? Because his generation looks at YouTube and they think like, oh my god, my dad has got this big YouTube channel. But yet, from the business perspective, we look at YouTube as like the, you know, it's an afterthought for us of all the things that we focus on. So enlightening him. So I think as that generation gets older

and more and more people become privy to it, I think they will realize that just because somebody has a ton of followers doesn't mean that they're necessarily that successful. I remember how reluctant I was to even get on Instagram. Do you remember that? I know. Adam, literally, almost everything we've done,

I've had to beat it into you before it hits it. I kinda suck. Look at how long it took you to get to Twitter and look at how you do Instagram now. It's just tweets. Yeah. And you got more popular. Come on, guy.

I was just, it's so annoying to me, the whole premise of the whole thing. Oh, it's new business. It's how it's done now. But when I realized I'm helping people, then it really makes a big difference. Yeah, it's like you're starting a business forever, and I'm in your buddy, I'm your partner, and I'm like,'s like you're starting a business forever. I'm in your buddy on your partner and I'm like,

hey, you should get a website and a business card guy. Yeah, you're like, it was a time. No, no, I like to talk to people. No, I like to write actual letters and I put them in the mail with a stamp. Get with the time, grandpa. Get a register.

Smoke signals to my friends. I got a, I got a no pad. He's right, everything down. It's been working forever that way. Hey, did you guys get the email for Magic Spoon the other day? The new bulls? No.

No, I didn't see that one. See if you can pull this up so these guys can see because I brought it up the other day. What do you mean, bulls? I just heard some birthday cakes. It's like a kit. I'm so mad that they didn't send this to us first before. What the fuck is the point of having,

I'm calling Magic Spoon out right now. What is the point of having partners and not calling Magic Spoon Out right now. What is the point of having partners and not get the cool shit before everybody else does? Yeah, I agree with that. I think you're supplying us with, every now and then we'll get some more fruit, fruity, which is great, but I need to try that birthday cake,

so I just went and ordered some. Birthday cake flavor. Oh, you can get it still. Yeah, I thought it was just a limited thing they did, so you can still order that. Oh, he's still ordering it. As far as I know. There it is they did. So you can still order it. Oh, as far as I know. There it is. Tell me that's not cool.

Oh yeah. Wow, that's cool. So it looks like a, it's kind of. It's psychedelic. Yeah, it's a little trippy. Area acid. It's a little trippy. Yeah, that's cool.

You kind of think about it, right? The way they name the flavors, the design, the psychedelic bowl. Yeah, I cruise behind this. We'll think about it like the way they name the flavors the design the psychedelic bowl. Yeah I cruise behind this. We'll think about it like smart stoners. Yeah did like two can Sam and like all those things like what was the other lucky charms like these are all like real like psychedelic cartoony well is there's no there's research that's done on like the colors and so you know that yeah yeah that's like it has to be bright well it be bright. Well, it's funny because it's like emulating fruit colors, right? Right?

So for us to eat artificial cereal, it's like, bright colors and sweet means safe in nature. Yeah. Right? So, oh, this is bright. Oh, it's sweet, probably safe. Bitter might mean something bad. Did I bring up on the show? I know it.

I know I think I told you guys, I don't know if I brought this up on the show, but somebody on our forum posted the blueberries with banana slices in it. Oh yeah, so did I talk about that on the show? I don't know if I can do that. No, you're having, oh, yeah, you said you did it. I did it. So you did the blueberry cereal.

And then you just said. Banana slices, yes. When I, what were, did you figure out the macros on that with the protein in the car? Because you got a little bit extra carbs with the banana, the protein from the cereal. No, I feel like that'd be a pretty complete macro profile. No, it really is, because the sugar and the carbs

are really low on the magic spoon, so you boost it with the banana. You get, I think, two grams of protein extra with a banana. No, it's, oh, but I'm going for the taste. That's what the hell I saw. Yeah, that sounds delicious. Do you guys remember when you figured out that you could eat cereal at any time?

You remember that when you were a kid? I remember that. That was like real power. Yeah, it was mind blowing. Yeah. Because when you're little, you know, you kind of do it, your mom, you know, this is for breakfast and say, and I remember, I think I was like 11 or 12. I was like, wait a minute.

I was a little bit more. I was a little bit more. And when you get your driver's license, it's like equal. What do you mean, being able to eat cereal whenever you want? Yeah. Yeah. It was just, it was incredible. And I'd have it for snacks and dinner. And I grew up in a house that we were allowed to do that stuff. It was all over the place, which is probably not a good thing.

Did you have like no rules with that? Yeah, we really didn't have rules. It was like, what was in the coverage you could eat? Didn't matter. It just, yeah. It's like it was, literally it was, you know, a fin for yourself. Man, you must have had.

Pop Tarts and cereal. It's wild to me that you were such a skinny kid growing up. You had access to all that stuff all the time. You should just move. You should just move. You're like every say, no, no, you're getting around though. Like we didn't have a lot of food. You know what I'm saying?

We had food, so I'm not buying them only in two. That's why there were no rules. Yeah, it was, it was like, hey, if you can find it, you can get it. That's exactly how it works. A box of cereal would make its way into our cupboards, like once a month, if you're lucky, a box makes its way in there.

So you just, if you see it, you devour it. I don't care if it's a midnight, tune the afternoon, it doesn't matter. And if you don't, tune it in the knocks. That's right, if you don't, one of the siblings might get to it. Did you ever make a sandwich with one slice of bread, or you had to cut the slice in half?

Yeah. Really? Oh, I have folded the heel many of times. Oh, I hate to. Many of times. I've made a lot of heel sandwich. Yeah, in our house, that was always what, right? You took the heel out and then by the time it would make it.

And then on the counter, there'd be two heels. Yeah, two heels would last on the counter for a couple days so that you could always rely on a heel sandwich. You know what I'm saying? This was my mom. My mom would make it. We didn't have it quite like that, but you know, my mom didn't like it.

She always thought it was silly to buy, think like, like, like buns for hot dogs. She's like, why do you why? It's bread. She's just full of the slice. So she put a hot dog. You put cheese and mustard, it gives all soggy of that. Because of the convenience, mom.

You just fold it, you know what I mean? It's soggy dog. Here you go, buddy. This is your thing. Oh, we did that plenty of times. Yeah you go, buddy. This is your thing. We did that plenty of times. Yeah, that's it. What are, are there any other meals that were staples

for you when you were a kid? A lot of mac and cheese. And I very much so did I have hot dogs on, you know, loaves and bread. Do bagel bites? I used to actually make myself cinnamon toast all the time, because you know, that's like sugar. And then a little bit of cinnamon

and butter, dude, it was amazing. We did that Mexican style. So you did flour tortillas on the stove, got the tortillas and then you did butter and cinnamon. There you go. Oh, that's not bad. It's like a, almost like a cheer. I'll just gonna say, it's like a,

it's like a, a, a, a, poor man's cheer on. All right. And get inventive. That's hilarious. Yeah, anyway, good time. Hey, dude, I read a study about's cheer on. All right. And get inventive. That's hilarious. Yeah, anyway, good time. Hey, dude, I read a study about coffee, Justin. Oh, hey, I'm listening.

Another one, did you just read one recently? I did, but this one's a little more positive. This one's pretty good. This one's actually pretty good. They found that women who drank coffee on a regular, consistent basis were just leaner than other women. So they associated it with body fat percentage. I'll read what the study actually said.

Not just because they were moving more. Well, that's why. See that, well, so I was just gonna say, let me read the study and then let's give our theory. Seriously. So the studies found that women age 20 to 44 who drank two to three cups of coffee per day had the lowest levels of a fat, 3.4% lower than people

who did not consume coffee. Among women aged between 45 and 69, so the older they got, those who drink four or more cups had a 4.1% lower body fat percentage. So, or sorry, not 4% lower body fat percentage, but 4% lower than the other group. That's different. That's hardly anything.

That's different. Yeah, that's like, but still, they're finding these associations. Yeah, what's your theory on? Well, my theory is the same thing that I used to say to people that, you know, read something like that about it, the latest fat burner supplement that came out and I would explain to them It's full of stimulants and so they're what they're not telling you is they're not teasing out that somebody who has just took, you know, 300 milligrams of caffeine You know how wired are you? You're moving your tests. You don't have sit down.

Yeah, you're tapping your feet. You're moving your hands. You just got more energy. And so it's less about the supplement, what it's doing something inside your body that burns body fat. What it's doing is it just making you more active. And because you're more active,

you burn X amount more calories. Therefore, they can save. It might also suppress appetite a little bit, but you know, they found that caffeine does increase insulin sensitivity in the body over time. And this is, by the way, this is for people who can tolerate it really well, which I think there's a self-selection bias.

I don't think people who drink three cups of coffee every single day are people that have issues with caffeine. I think you kind of rule that out yourself, you know what I mean? Like I have family members that don't touch coffee because it makes them super anxious. So people who drink that much probably can tolerate it, but they do find that it helps with fatty liver,

insulin resistance, insulin resistance in the brain, which is a big one, because they also connect it to better cognitive function. Now, what mechanism is going on there to make that? Like, what is happening with the coffee that gives a caffeine pairing to a receptor that I don't understand what's happening. What's happening. It's a science word of the-

Yeah, yeah. I don't know I'm asking you. I don't know, I don't know. Yeah, I mean that doesn't make sense to me. I think it might be that dopamine has to do with the way that affects the brain. I actually don't know how, and I don't think they really even know necessarily how it could work, but caffeine is a, it is a stimulant, but it's actually,

naturally occurring one. You see a lot of plants and teas, and people have been consuming it for a very, very long time. So, yeah, I've watched, I mean, my grandma's like 97 now, 98 actually, and I mean, she's been drinking four, five cups of coffee like ever since I've known. That's her source of water.

Yeah, I guess. I mean, she just constantly is drinking it throughout the day. But it's, and then that was back when everybody was saying like how bad coffee was. Yeah. Back in those days, studies showed that coffee increased your risk of cancer and heart disease and all kinds of terrible stuff, but they forgot to separate the fact that coffee drinkers also smoked. Right.

That was the big thing. So they didn't separate the two of them. Obviously. That's what's going to end up happening. Dude, there's a lot of news still coming out about Rogan in his move. There's a lot of articles written about this. Well, that's a big deal. It's a huge deal.

You figure Google owns YouTube. You figure Apple, one of the other monsters. And Joe Rogan, by himself, is responsible for millions of people being active on both those platforms. So literally Spotify acquiring him is a huge for him, a huge fuck you to Google and to Apple, even if it wasn't, even if that's not his intent, that's what it is, right? So shame on them for not really bolstering their platform and really putting a lot of

attention into it. Well, I'm very curious to what we're going to see now. Well, so GaryVee said, welcome to the podcast, Wars. Right. Let it begin. Yeah, this is great. This is what you want in, you know, welcome to the podcast wars, right? Which yeah, what this is great. This is what you want in a market, especially for in the podcasting space let the wars begin They'll start fighting over you know podcasts. This is this was an article from the verge and I'm reading a lot of articles like this from analysts Literally, this is the title the podcasting world is now Spotify Versus everybody else. Yeah.

That's how big of a deal is there. Well, that's how was it when TV started? It was like ABC, NBC, you know, CBS, like how did all those networks start? Like who's the main player? Yeah, I though because they were broadcast. Remember back in those days, it was in cable. It was through the air. Uh-huh.

And I think it was regulated by the government. So they had only so many channels and they gave certain ones to certain companies. So I'm not quite sure how that worked out. Now the bandwidth is pretty much unlimited. So it's a little bit different, but still they're going to, you know, calling it a war. Now what's your guys' theory?

It's because you think of Google and Apple, they're already massive powerhouses. So even though Spotify is starting to solidify as one of the best audio streaming services and soon to go after video, they still are small potatoes when you talk about comparing them to Google and Apple. Do they flinch?

Do they start getting involved in the wars and start acquiring people and offering contracts? Or do they let Spotify do all this work? And then eventually one of those companies come and swoop them up? That's a good question. Maybe. Okay, so we talked about this when it came to streaming.

Remember a while ago and we were speculating, I was what's gonna happen is the biggest streaming company just gonna purchase the other streaming companies. But instead what we found is more competition. We're seeing Disney and Hulu and Netflix and Amazon's coming up with their own content. I think you're probably going to see something like that with podcast space where it's proving itself

as its own platform, its own worth. So I would imagine more companies, even like a Facebook or somebody might start thinking about, oh, why don't we have a podcast platform? Yeah, because look at how the streaming video companies compete. It's not that they, which company has the best movies that are mainstream. It's which one is producing their own unique content.

So that I feel like might happen. We're Spotify will produce their own podcasts and content and Apple will produce their own and other companies will produce their own. I don't think so. You don't think so? No, I think that's too much work and effort for them. Why would you do that? We are setting them all up to make it easy for them.

We're all fighting over air time and rankings and getting bigger and better. And then you see a company that has money that they can do the calculations. They can figure out Joe's getting this much attention. He does this much in advertising. Therefore, it's valued at this. Let's make him an offer.

Yeah, maybe the first year he's coming out on that offer the most. Over the course of two or three years, we will win in the amount. And I just figure that they're gonna start doing that. They'll start acquiring people that are podcasting. I think the big ones are gonna be the slowest to start acquiring shows and really doing strategy

in terms of trying to occupy content. I see a Pandora or these other competing services really trying to follow suit to Spotify initially, and then that's gonna be a thing, and then the big ones will come in there. The market likes it. Did you guys see what happened to Spotify? Oh, yeah.

Went through the roof. Five, they increased their value on the market over five Bill now what I don't know and maybe Doug couldn't look this up is I believe the last time I looked up Spotify They're technically still not profitable Check that out Doug. Let me know if if Spotify is crazy is is as a pro well I mean that's it's so hard to tell now. It's the model with tech companies do that Yeah, I remember Facebook Facebook hit the market. that. I remember Facebook, Facebook hit the market, it wasn't profitable when it first hit the market.

Now it's an extremely profitable company. I think the way they look at it is they look at how many users are on there, what the potential influence is. Right, yeah, one hundred the market. Yeah, once you collect that, let's see, loss making Spotify will continue growth ahead of profit.

Yeah, see. Their goal is to continue to grow and they have never posted, they have never posted an annual net. And yet, what are their shares at right now? $187. That's so wild. I know, right? No profit. Yeah. Well, I mean, I mean, that's the model. Is rogging going to be worth it? I mean, the people are speculating that he made, it was a hundred million dollar deal. I think it was way more than that. It was effort 250. Yeah. I think it was way more than that. Yeah. I don't remember where I read that. But yeah, I made it was a hundred million dollar deal. I think it was way more than that. It was effort 250 Yeah, I think it was way more than that. Yeah, I don't remember where I read that But yeah, I think it was a big chunk well Forbes says that

That Rogan has a 200 plus million fans How do they calculate he has 200 million? Well, he has a hundred and ninety million downloads a month So they they figure that he probably averages about 200 million fans. That's a lot. Well, we know that we've talked about this on Apple. We've talked about this before with our own audience and looking at the scale, the business, and based off of downloads,

like it's not a great representation of actually how many people are impacting. How many people listen to, I mean, we all know everybody in this room, obviously, are podcast listeners, but there's times where I go months and not listen to a podcast So you can't be the only person that's like this you come in waves, you know Sometimes you're you're on it and you're listening to it every day multiple times a day other times you're taking days off So just a total downloads in a month doesn't give you a clear picture of actual actual users that are coming in and out of your business Okay, so here's the deal.

You and I have been going back and forth as to whether or not they owned Joe Rogan's sponsorships. Yes. And I still am not 100% sure I have yet to read that that's exactly what's happening. Here's what Forbes says. Forbes says that Spotify is clearly betting that Joe Rogan's fans love him enough to follow him to Spotify

and then produce a Halo effect on other podcasts on Spotify, which it can then use to sell memberships and ads. I don't think they own his sponsors. I think you just said it yourself. Membership and ads. No, which is okay. The Halo effect meaning he's going to draw so many people over because what they I'm not denying that. I agree with you there. That's not enough though. Really? Yes. That's not enough. Yeah, and they just said it right there. That Halo effect, bring them all in there and be able to sell ads on them.

They're not gonna allow him to have 30 sponsors that he's getting paid for, and Spotify makes no money off of it. And then in addition to that, also do more ads on it. So you don't think it was just him bringing people over? No, I think it's more than that. I think that's how you get a deal that massive is it's not just

the users that they're hoping are gonna acquire and hoping that are gonna go to the $9 a month subscription. That's a big chunk. That's probably makes it easier to justify $200 million. But the other piece is that they now have him on that platform. They will allow, they're a network. So they'll go and they'll go after on that platform, they will allow, they're a network, so they'll go, and they'll go after even bigger companies, right?

Right now, we see a lot of small businesses are becoming savvy to how good of a medium that podcasting is, they're setting the table to go after the Coca-Cola's and the massive, massive companies that are not. Well, along those lines, you wanna hear something crazy, so on this Forbes article, they talked about podcast ad revenue in the US alone.

So this isn't even the world. What year did we start a podcast? Was it 2000? Five years ago. So it's 15. So 2015, when we started Mind Pump, US podcast ad revenues were $105 million. Okay, that was total on the whole US.

That's it. $105 million in Okay, that was total on the whole US. That's it. $105 million in 2015. Do you know what it's gonna hit in 2021? So if it was $1 billion. Wow. A billion dollars in 2021. So 2020's bringing in, yeah, so 2020's bringing in $860 million

and they project it to be over a billion by 2021. So that's just from 2015 to 2021. What a massive films. That is insane. So now with a billion dollars in ad revenue being thrown around in podcast, you know, that's by the way, you know, for the listeners, that's not like spread out over all the podcasts.

There's a small percentage that are getting all that. 80, 20 rule. Yeah, 80, 20 rule. So 20% of the podcast, maybe even last. I tell you what, and for those that are podcasters There's a small percentage. That are getting all that. 80, 20 rule. Yeah. 80, 20 rule. So 20% of the podcast, maybe even less. I tell you what, and for those that are podcasters that are getting into the advertising space, it's the wild, wild west, and there's a lot of companies taking advantage of podcasters

right now. There's this ridiculous idea that there is a formula for how you should get paid based off of CPMs. Which is just based off download. Yeah, which is comical to me because there shouldn't be a standardized, oh, everybody gets paid this much. And so a little insight on our business, that was something that we refused that. And we could have taken on sponsors earlier on in the podcast and started to generate a little bit of money.

And it was very tempting because we weren't making hardly any money back then. But we refused to do that. And because of that, it's paid off very well for us now that we negotiate every contract. We don't follow any of the CPM rules. And we also have the partners that we wanna work with. So, yeah, we're pretty picky.

So, I urge any podcasters that listen to this show that are trying to grow their podcasts and they want to try and make advertising money, you know, hold out for what you really want and don't jump on something right away just because you weren't making money and now you can make money, you'll make more money in the long run

if you take your time and slowly like negotiate contracts and wait. Well, now that we're talking about billions of dollars in total revenue, I think you're gonna see major brands really start spotify, I think this is the beginning of the perk up some attention, total from the big dots. Especially when they realize how much power podcasts have

in terms of, you know, conversion, speaking of sponsors, the messages that I've been getting from our listeners who use Ned, the hemp oil, is just, it's going through the roof. It's incredible. It's really, and it makes sense, right? It makes sense, man, it's such a stressful time. Big time stressful time. For a lot of people, I was just talking to Jessica

about this yesterday, and we're fine, everybody's healthy, but you know, a lot of stores in California here at least, still closed, it's weird when you walk around outside, especially if you live in a city, you see a lot of stores in California here at least still close, it's weird when you walk around outside, especially if you live in a city, you see a lot of masks. You're doing small gatherings, if you do any gatherings at all, kids are stuck at home. So it's just a total change in life. And then of course, every five seconds

were reminded to be scared, which is annoying. Every five seconds, like we're driving. And you see signs on the freeway. Be careful, wash your hands, COVID-19, and then you drive annoying every five seconds. Like we're driving and you see signs on the freeway. You know, be careful, wash your hands, COVID-19, then you drive into the five minutes. You know, don't get, you know, just keep gathering small COVID-19 seconds. It's subtle. You don't realize how much of that you're taking in constantly. And Courtney and I were talking about this and I was trying to get her to start taking it again. And what a massive difference it made for her, especially in her sleep, because sleep has been rough lately

between the two of us. And we're trying to figure out, because we're wearing a blue block as we're trying to do all this stuff. But she was taking Ned pretty consistently and had much better sleep because of all the work. I'm trying to get my mom to use it in replace of smoking. So my mom's been an often on smoker like her whole life

and she's a stress smoker. You know, rough day at work or a little bickering going on between her and her husband or whenever kids driving her crazy and then she breaks and then she goes and has a cigarette and I'm like, mom, like instead of that, you know, when you're on your streak of staying away from it and you get those moments of feeling stressed or anxiety like that, try this. So I literally just gave it to her this weekend. So I'll report back on how that's working out for my mom. Now, I know there's no real benefits to what's going on with CBD and actually,

you know, cigarettes, but I do know why my mom tends to lean towards smoking. And if I can just get her to change that physical right. Yeah. Exactly. If I can get her to change that behavior, it may help with that. So that's kind of how I'm change. Give her that physical race. Yeah, exactly. If I can get her to change that behavior, it may help with that. So that's kind of how I'm having her. That's what it is. It's not going to fix your problems for you, but it does change the physical response.

And there's a feedback loop in the body where my thoughts can make my body feel stressed and tense. Then the feeling that my body now has, then feeds back into my thoughts. This is how anti-anxiety, herbs and plants and even medications work, is they change the physical response. And that feedback can then come back to you and be like, well, you know, things haven't changed, but I don't feel a physical effects of stress.

So I think it can bring it down a little bit because when they're both active, it just feeds it. It feeds it over. It's like you ever, you know, you get paranoid and then your heart's beating, and then you get paranoid about your heart beating fast. And then that makes you more paranoid. So it's absolute of even more. Yeah, so the feedback I'm getting is just people like,

man, I, you know, I don't normally suffer from anxiety, but because of what's going on, I've just been tense and stressed. I've been using this during the day. It makes me, I feel a lot better. I'm a better parent because I don't feel so stressed out. I can make better decisions. So I'm glad that there's something like that out there.

You know, back to the, our talks about these big companies, Apple and Google, did you see that they officially launched their, their contact tracking software? So people, for COVID. Yeah, and there's already like three, there's already three, I think, states that are on board that are using it now and that they're predicting that everybody will be on it. Now they're where you. So what does it do exactly? It's like it shows you hotspots. Yeah, I think that's what it how it works. I'm honestly, I'm not

familiar with the software I haven't gone in it. I just saw the announcement that it's official that both Apple and Google have got it out there. And just so you know where people are that actually have it and so they'll actually track them for you. So if you're heading into a town and you're, you know, worried that there might be lots of people in the area or in your name. But if that's specific, it's not gonna be like,

you walk up to someone like, oh shit. Yeah, I mean. Well, no one to date. I assume it's linked to their phone somehow. I don't know how it works. But if we can track where our phones are at all time, so I would think that, you know, the same thing. But I don't think it's gonna share like specifically,

like you're walking and you're like, there's someone right there. Oh, I don't know, I don't know. I hope not. I don't know, I don't know. I just show like a map of red spots or whatever. Yeah, I hope so. And I like that.

If they do it right, I like that. It gives you a little bit more information. Yeah, education awareness. You make some decisions for yourself, It gives you a little bit more information. And education awareness. You make some decisions for yourself, you know, a little bit better, but the whole fear thing right now is just out of control, man. Every other thing I read, every the article, it's like, ah, stop.

That's a bad. Well, in the positive note, did you see now, like, with Tesla, how Tulsa is really trying to get... To Oklahoma? Yeah, Oklahoma is trying to get them to move there for the giga factory for the Tesla truck, the Cybertruck production. Between them, I don't know if it's Austin,

Texas somewhere in Texas is the other spot, but they actually painted like one of the iron worker statues, all Tesla out and gold and everything. You know what? I'm trying to get his business. I didn't even think about that. Like if you were a state, wouldn't it not be advantageous for you to actually offer them like a facility for free

or land for free something? Yeah. All the time. I didn't even try to womb right now. So I'm sure. I'm sure. Wow. What's his name?

What a great place to be as far as leverage if you're here. Oh, Tesla Tulsa. I mean, I love that plan. Words are ready. That's states have been doing that forever. So Ted Cruz, Senator from Texas. I did not know that. They would do this.

They would actually do ad. They would put up ads and they would talk to big companies and say, hey, if you come here, you'll pay this much less in taxes or we'll give you this. Or you'll have this opportunity to lure companies over to provide more work and jobs. Yeah, no, it makes total sense. Absolutely.

Like someone like Tesla or Amazon who employs tens of thousands of people to get them to come to an area where maybe it's slowly. This is going to be slow. One reason why Hollywood is losing business for so long is people want to film there because the tax is in the cost and all stuff. They'll film it over. Old regulations. Yes. This is something that's been happening for a long time.

Interesting. It's one reason why California is continuously bleeding. Yeah. Losing people. Losing business. California never did that before. We were growing population all the time. Now we're losing people to states like Texas, I think, is one of the one North Carolina.

I think is another one. I can't remember where else. Do you see that Facebook is reducing their space down to like 25% their actual brick and mortar, like people coming into the office. So they're just keep one way out one fourth right off the top. Wow. Yeah. So we talked about Twitter staying at home now of Facebook.

It's going to be really interesting how that changes the landscape. I think that's better. I think it's better because that reduces traffic still. Like that's the one thing, the positive shining light. I didn't even think about that actually. Oh yeah, dude. Because it's been crazy, like the amount of traffic buildup over the last like two, three years, man,

I've noticed just my commute. Wow, what if we do see that over here? We'll notice that more than anybody I would think. We have so many of the tech companies right here in our hub. I wonder if we actually never go back to how bad the traffic was just six months ago. People can just stay and do their work from home, yeah.

Because they're not home. I mean, my brother-in-law's company, you hear Twitter, you see Facebook now, I'm hearing the same rumors from Google and stuff. If a lot of these companies now allow, even just half their workers, or quarter of their workers to work from home and not have to come in the office, that would make a huge difference on traffic.

I would love that, because one of the good sides about what's been happening is it takes me 10 minutes to get to work. I'm trying to focus on that. Yeah, like, oh, it's such a benefit to it. We drove home from from Tahoe yesterday and commute hours and never had traffic. I mean, we had like a little slow spot

for like 10 minutes if that, but we blew home. Right at five o'clock, right in the worst part, too. Also, think about it this way for the consumer. So obviously, it's probably cool for the workers. They get to stay at home. We talked about traffic, but now think about it as a consumer who buys products.

Faith, do you think Facebook's gonna save money by not having to have all these offices? Of course. Absolutely. Now those savings get passed on. Invested back into the company. Not only that, but now companies will be competing because how do companies compete? They offer better services for lower prices.

If more people work at home and companies have to spend less money on offices, then the consumer is going to benefit. So one of the potential good side effects of all this is just more efficiency. In fact, that's typically what happens with economic downturns as companies learn to become more efficient. And then, tight enough. See, my theory though, we might see a peak in the next drop because I think that initially, everybody thinks that's a great idea and they want to do that. But personally, it would seem like a little cool vacation after a while, but some people just were not made to

work from home. Yeah. And I think people just were not made to work from home Yeah, and I think more people were not made to work from home than others I think most people do better because they have struck separate. Yeah, they have structure They have a place that they come to work. They know when they get there They have the pressures of everybody else working around them. You know now it that's a lot of responsibility on the individual to Get up on time start your your shit, not get distracted, and go watch TV, or do other things. And so maybe we see this initial like,

oh, it's so great. And then we see this kind of drop off after a while. It's like, he has an option. It'd be nice to have both options. Like, you could come in, or you could stay home, and then there's meetings and stuff. You got to attend, but for the most part, stay home with you on.

The more I think about it, the more I think it might be a good thing. I think people might adapt, of course, because you want to be around adults and stuff. So they'll figure that kind of stuff. But think about how many parents have to bring their kids to daycare, have to do it. Now they can try to money that costs. Work throughout the day, they can work from home, they can, you know, it might actually be overall a good thing for families, you know what I mean? But then I can think of the opposite.

I could also think, while now your work is no separate, not separated from home. Right. And you're just doing it a lot. Did you talk about these options? We talked about the Zoom call that we had with the Zbiotic, the whole competition and those two guys, did you talk about,

do we bring up like how smart I thought that was that they did do? Yeah, we didn't talk about that. How they cater to, I mean, how, really, I love, I love when we meet people that are, you know, big mind pump fans and listeners, they've been listening since almost the beginning. We did this whole thing was ebiotic,

where we did a giveaway, and then we did a Zoom call with them, and we are talking. And I was just really impressed with both these guys, and the way they're operating their business. And one of the things that I thought was brilliant was, you know, they know that there's a lot of parents that are stuck at home with their kids right now.

So they rolled out this whole kids thing. They rolled out a kids program to help these parents to take them do something active. And you gotta think, I know, personally, I know a lot of kids. A lot of parents right now are going insane that weren't used to having their kids at home and schooling them all day long.

How good do you feel if you have an option from your gym or your trainer now, son, is offering these fitness classes for your kids? Not only are you doing something positive for them keeping them active, but in addition that you're giving yourself a break for an hour or two. I thought that was absolutely brilliant. I think they did a really good job, you know, because the gyms are getting hit, have gotten hit, really, really hard. I think that was a really smart way to just provide more value or continue to provide value to your people. And, again, I think when stuff like this happens, you tend to come out the other end with more efficient,

smarter businesses. A lot of people get hurt, of course, but some of them come out better off or whatever. So, hey, a cool study on diets, by the way, which kind of confirms what we've been saying all along. They do this broad study on lots of different diets, low carb, higher carb, you know, zone, the dash diet, you know, all these different types of diets.

And what they found was that they all produced right around the same amount of fat loss, all of them. And that all of them pretty much stopped working after about a year. So in other words, people lost loss, all of them. And that all of them pretty much stop working after about a year. So in other words, people lost weight on all of them, but after about a year, everybody stopped following the diet and then gained the weight back. So this highlights that it's really not as so what's really more important about then, you know, for helping you lose weight and keep it off, isn't that so much, you know, the structured, you know, I'm on low carb, I'm on paleo or whatever, but rather the behaviors that surround food.

That's more important because you stick to a diet that's structured. And if you don't change what drove you to eat wrong in the first place, then eventually that wins. And a year later, you gained the way back. I got some funny food news for you guys. So there is a pizza company that is popping up all over your door dash, Uber Eats that's like making waves right now and it's called Pasulas or something. Can you pronounce that probably? Pasulas Pizza or whatever? Yeah, I've seen that. Okay, so it's

popping up all over the place and it's actually Chuck E Cheese. It's just Chuck E Cheese delivering pizza. In disguise. Yeah, and I think because Chuckie cheese is not known for having great pizza Necessarily right they're known for the environment for kids. They change the name so they change the name their delivery service Is this like Paxula's pizza or some shit? Come up with a weird like a tie-in name. No, I think it's really it's very clever that they did that I think Puswales. Yeah, Puswales is that how you pronounce it? Yeah, yeah It's the lyrics but it's popping up all I thinkales? Yeah, Puswales is how you pronounce it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's hilarious.

But it's popping up all I think I saw it pop up on mine and I never, I was like, where's this piece of art? I tell you what, you know, think about it. I do. If you played in the balls at Chuck E. Cheese a lot, you probably are immune to coronavirus. I would think so. You built up a real serious, I'd be exposed to literally everything. Do you remember that?

You jump in that thing? I have the kids sticking it in their mouth and shit. Yeah, just blowing their nose. Yeah, I mean, what do they do? Like occasionally lice all it, you know, the top of them, you know, if that. This, that's it. Come on.

They do it. They do it. I was just hoping they'd look at it like, at least at least 50 kids today sucked on those balls there so I'm like, when I was a kid running noses and that. Oh, yeah, dude, when I was a kid, my cousin and I were grew up together.

It's like best buds and we were like eight years old and we were at Chuckie Cheese and we went and played in the balls and then there were these other two boys that were kind of our age. Did this ever happen to you? You get in a rumble in the balls with your buddy. Oh yeah, dude. It gets real.

He started when kids started messing with him. He started wrestling with him. The other kid jumps in. Next thing you know, my cousin and I are like, we're driving these kids down deep into the balls. We're not letting them up. Drowning them in balls. Oh yeah, we're holding them down there.

That sounds bad, but it's true. I remember the first time that I came back to Chuck E. Cheese as an adult, you know, it'd been like a decade or two in between. And I remember thinking like, dude, this was, I thought these were massive. When you're a kid, it just shows you like how different. It's big. Oh, it just, yeah these were massive. When you're a kid, it just shows you how different, oh, it just felt huge when you're a kid.

And you give it, it's like a little tiny pizza parlor. But the way they had the rooms all set up as a kid, you think it's massive. Yeah, it's fine, I just remember I was that kid that like totally like would punch the guy in the suit, you know, in the mouth suit. Like punch right in the balls. Like, come on man, like I was thinking, I was like, oh, what a little shit I was. Yeah, in the mouse suit. Like, punch right in the balls. Like, like, come on, man.

Like, I was thinking, like, oh, what a little shit I was. Yeah, terrible stuff. Yeah, the mechanical, what about the mechanized, you know, one that they play the music? Very, very, very. Creepy. There's nothing fun about that. Oh, super creepy.

Dude, you guys know, I've been talking a lot about the whole artificial intelligence and, you know, that show and all the stuff. But, okay, so it's all positive. We're moving so far forward and everything. Well, not really. There are trying to make advancements in terms of creativity and art, music. Anyway, they have one called Benjamin AI, which actually writes screenplays. And it's like, they just feed it,

maybe a couple thousand scripts, and then it basically, it goes through all of it, finds patterns and then shoots out its own kind of script. And it is the most idiotic, like it makes no sense, but okay, so this director thought that you'll be a good idea to try and have actors act all this stuff out that it just spits out.

And it's the most awful thing I've ever seen. Dude, I saw this one. So they feed it, tons and tons of screenplays. And then what the AI does is they pick a genre first. Yeah, so they pick a genre they're gonna do an action movie. Or so they do an action movie, so they feed it with like a thousand actions. And then what the AI does is it tries to pick up,

you know, patterns and match words that tend to follow other words. and then you just feed it with like a thousand actions. And then what the AI does is it tries to pick up, you know, patterns and match words that tend to follow other words. Spits out its own full screenplay. And then this director tried to have people act it out. Bro, he's excited about it. Like, oh my God, what does Benjamin gonna do today? It's like, dude, it actually makes me happy

that the machine sucks so bad at that. You know, it's like humans do still have an advantage. What are you gonna do when they don't? Then we're fucked. When A is makes the best movies. You think that's possible? I mean, we already use algorithms to create movies. You already see that right now.

I mean, that's part of what I think it kind of sucks stuff. Based on what the consumer likes. Right. I mean, it reminded me of the book hitmakers and hitmakers talks about this, like that we've been doing this since like the 30s.. And Hitmakers talks about this, we've been doing this since the 30s.

We've found patterns in sounds, we've found patterns in plays and movies that people like. And so a lot of the, quote unquote, creative artists today aren't so creative. What they do is they look back at think common themes and types of. Yeah, it still requires though a level of creativity. Like, you could tell me the formula, I'm not going to be able to create music and art

like a lot of these people are going to be able to. Makes me wonder though in the future when AI is more self-aware and it's creating this kind of stuff and will humans not buy it on purpose? Because it'd be like, nah, that's made by a machine. Yeah. And then they'll be discriminating, you nah, that's made by a machine. Yeah. And then they'll be discriminating, you know? To be like robot discrimination laws. Yeah.

Well, it kind of reminds me of the same thing that we talked about with like human 3D printing. Like once everybody has access to print anything they want, I still think that the artist will, there'll still be a lot of value in that, right? Cause that's what will make it so unique. Like everybody can print a pair of shoes, cool. But then this guy creates a pair that

are so unique and different, like to get his patent or to get his 3D whatever code to be able to print it, you'll have to pay big money. So I do see that happen. Yeah, you will look at music, right? Music used to buy albums, they would release a single, but oftentimes you have to buy a whole album. Nowadays, music is so decentralized, at least in comparison to how it was before, that the way artists now are making a lot of the money, isn't necessarily through music anymore, or selling it, it's more through the concerts.

So let's take it, we're back. The merchant, everything, yes. Yeah, so let's take it, it's going back in time, where now the value is I see you live. Whereas the music I could get it free online, if I want, I could listen to it on YouTube. You can continuously sell to them through your website and all that.

Yeah, yeah, it's different. So it might do that, Adam, where everybody where everybody can get print, whatever clothing and whatever they want, but oh, I got to go see the actual person, make it for me, and that provides more value. This quads brought to you by Organify. For those days you fall short on getting your organic veggies or whole food nutrition, Organify fills the gap with laboratory-tested certified organic superfoods to help give your health a performance at an edge.

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Actually, sure. That's actually, like I could. I didn't even think about that. You can't really go. You got to have somebody in their street steering the car and make sure you don't push it on its own because you can have a little pet. The risk factor goes up just a little bit with that,

but I think too, if you've ever seen those moving slides that you put under couches. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. So if you put your hands on those, and you kind of lock out your elbows, and you get it down into like the beast position, you could actually just kind of push your way forward and get a similar effect.

Oh, that works pretty well. You know what else I was thinking about? We've been talking so much about the benefits of isometric exercises is getting to a wall and driving into a wall. So you're mimicking pushing a sled, you ain't going anywhere. I think that's a cool way to actually create

a cool exercise that probably a lot of people don't do. So another thing you can do, it's similar to a sled push, but you're not actually kind of pulling, is you can get a strap, these are easy to get, tie it around your waist, tie it around a couple heavy plates, do this on some grass, and then pull the plates behind you. So it's not hard to find, you know,

like a tie down strap or whatever, something that's not gonna dig into your skin, put it on your waist, put it around the plates, you're on grass, you're not gonna hurt anything, you're not gonna ruin the weights, and then put a couple plates on there and just drive and just walk. Yeah, actually I just remembered

that we had an old YouTube video where I was like, I had one of those app rollers and I was doing that basically, doing a bear crawl with it. Oh, we did that? Yeah, I remember that. With the app wheel, which is really difficult. You know what we want to know?

It's a nasty exercise with an ab wheel. Hold on to an ab wheel, stabilize yourself, have your friend hold your legs like a wheelbarrow. Oh, have them pull, have them pull, not push, but pull. So you're just, it sounds like a challenge. You gotta keep your core tight the whole time. You know, the thing I love about sled pushes, and I didn't do, I never did these a lot.

In my career, I didn't do them a lot until I met Justin. And Justin, you know, we all worked out together once and, or a couple times and Justin always would include some kind of exercise that, you know, Adam and I were super familiar with conventional stuff. Yeah. And I remember doing the sled and feelings good afterwards. I had this great feeling in my body. Part of the benefits of the sled is the fact that there's no negative portion to the rep. Now, negative, the negative portion of a rep is great for muscle growth, it's great for strength, all the stuff, so it's not bad,

but one of the detriment is it does cause a lot of damage. When you're just focusing on the positive, you can add a lot more volume and get strength gains without causing so much soreness. So you can control your body a lot more too. It provides a lot safer way to really express that muscle tension. Yeah, and so I just love adding them to almost any leg workout. I can add them, or sometimes I'll add them to an upper body exercise where I'm getting into a position of pushing and then explode with the sled push and then continue.

So this has now become an exercise I never did before that has now made into irregular rotation. To the most underrated exercises, in my opinion, Farmer two, our sled pool for that matter, I think that they're so easily accessible for anybody to do, and regardless of what kind of variables and limitations you have, those two exercises will definitely be great to add into your team. So I know it's trendy to say functional, but they're such functional movements, right? Totally.

I know DeFranco, who's one of the best trainers you'll find anywhere and is excellent with athletes, he, like, that was his thing. He used a lot of sleds with athletes. Yeah. Got a lot of criticism because they said, oh, that's going to slow them down because you're obviously not running fast. Mm-hmm. And he says, no, it makes them faster.

And then, of course, sure enough, he was totally right. It does make them a lot faster. It's a very functional movement. It's one of the more functional movements You could do that has so much carry over to your regular life, especially if you play sports next question is from inspire Create rain. I wear heels sometime, but they aggravate my knees Is there a certain muscle issue or a problem? I have right now that would cause such problems Justin, what do you do from all of the awareness that you could do?

Usually my leopard print ones, they give me the most problems, right? They're the highest. So I have to work around it. That's a... When I was a kid, this was back when it wasn't politically incorrect, I don't know if it's even politically incorrect to do these days, but when I was a kid, like, 10, 11, one of the more popular costumes for Halloween was to dress up like the opposite gender. So, you know, boys were dressed up like girls,

girls were dressed up like boys. I don't know, I don't even know if that's accepted anymore, but I do remember putting on heels as part of my costume and I could not keep my balance whatsoever. It was pretty funny. But anyway, when you're wearing heels, you know, it does throw your center of gravity off a little bit, and you are gonna place more stress on your knees

because your knees have to stabilize or your quads have to stabilize it and be tight to support your body. So you're using your knees more than you would if your feet were flat. This is probably why you're feeling this. So how do you work on that? Well, the same way you work on any chronic knee pain,

aside from not wearing heels anymore, which would be my first piece of advice, the second piece of advice would be, okay, if you have to wear heels, focus on hip mobility and strength, and ankle, especially ankle mobility and strength because your foot's always in this flex position. Things get tight, and that can affect your gait quite a bit.

Yeah, I would tell this person to make sure you go and you watch the webinar that I did, the one where we get into ankle and hip more, right? So I would for sure watch the the mind pump webinar.com and go to maps prime pro, the movements that I teach in there, I think that's extremely. Now, is it another problem too? When you're in heels, don't you? Aren't you in a locked out position too? Yeah, yeah. When you're in heels, don't you, or aren't you like in a locked out position too? Yeah, yeah. And so like when you're, when you're,

when we're kind of walking around, you have like a soft knee where when you're in a, completely on your tippy toes, aren't you in a completely extended position? It's not just, I mean, I haven't wear heels so I don't know what it feels like. Yeah, I'm trying to, I'm trying to, I'm trying to picture it and I envision someone

with almost a locked out knee. Well, think about it this way. You guys have done squats with your normal foot flat on the floor, right? You ever done squats with your heels really elevated? Yeah, on your tippy toes. Where do you feel it? Quads. Quads and knees at big time.

So it just changes the recruitment pattern so that you use a lot more quadriceps. And if you don't have good hip strength and stability, then that could cause problems with your knee. And it may be coming from your IT band. Now foam rolling can temporarily help, but again, if you don't strengthen the hips, then you're going to have to continue to foam roll all the time to prevent that. But temporary relief, try this. Try foam rolling your IT bands, spend 15 minutes. Like do a good session on your IT bands.

Get up, put your heels back on, see how you feel. You'll probably feel some really, really good temporary relief. Of course, remember, it's not fixing the root cause of the problem, but it is a great way to take away the temporary pain that you may be getting from wearing heels. Next question is from Gabs is Rad. What are some ways to deal with relationship stress while quarantined with your partner?

Oh, have you guys seen the statistics on this? I don't need to, I already have to get where this is. It's fine, yeah. I think it's just a universal thing right now with couples and relationships. This is that added element that like exterior element that has sort of created even more tension. Oh yeah, you know, and it's funny.

I don't think it's so much that you're just around each other all the time. This is what people are saying. Like, ooh, we're around each other all the time. Therefore, you know, we're having a lot more problems. I don't think it's as much, it's that much of that. I think it's more that there's a lot of stress and anxiety and fear that's happening right now.

Because I could be locked, I could be in a hotel room with Jessica on a Hawaii vacation, be around each other all the time. And we're not getting in lots of fights. But right now, it's just a lot more stress that's going on. And so how you handle yourself under stress is really what contributes to this.

There's some self awareness that has to go around. Like, are you actually maybe being more of an asshole yourself? Here's the thing, you can't control the other person. This is the most difficult thing. It's super easy when you're with someone and you're getting arguments and you get on each other's nerves. It's super easy for you to look at them

and say, that's what they're doing. They're in a bad mood. They're irritable. They're snapping at me. They're criticizing me. And that all might be absolutely true, but because you can't control that, I think you're better off looking at yourself

and saying, okay, how am I contributing to this? Am I less patient? Am I less kind? Am I being the one that maybe is taking things a little bit differently? We all have a filter that we receive information through and that filter can make a comment seem negative or neutral.

Let's say Adam and I are roommates and I have this negative filter about him and he calls me up and he's like, hey, we're out of bacon. And my negative filter might be like, just fucker You know, he's telling me I forgot the bacon He's trying to remind me that I keep forgetting to buy the bacon now if I have a neutral filter or a happy filter

I might just be thinking oh he's just telling me that we're out of bacon Hey, just in case you go to the store so that makes a really really big difference So I this is true whether you're working with your partner or your business partner Like you got to look at yourself and see how you're contributing because that doesn't mean that doesn't diminish the fact that maybe your partner's doing certain things, but it's really the only thing you can control. I'm gonna default to the book Love Languages

and being proactive. So this is actually in my notes right now. So I better get on my ass and do this before this episode goes live, or I'll look like a punk if Katrina listens to us first. And that is understanding that one of the things that happens with couples a lot of times better get on my ass and do this before this episode goes live or I'll look like a punk if Katrina listens to his first. And that is understanding that one of the things that happens with couples a lot of times when they get stressed out

in any situation is sometimes you feel like you're doing things that should make that your partner happy or should make them feel loved. But in reality, you're doing the things that are like related to your love language and not hers or his and I have a habit of this You know, I know the things that you know I Monetary things I like to buy things as gifts to Katrina. I mean I could Buy her a ranger over and get a thank you

I could sit down and write her a card about how amazing she is to me and she'll cry and share it with you know ten of her family members So remembering that is so important. I have to remember that big action of what I think is loved by buying her something that's cool or what I think is amazing isn't necessarily her love language, but taking the time to sit down and write her a card about how I feel about a relationship or how much I value her as a person goes so

far. So, you know, I would urge whoever this is, that's asking this question, to dive into your partner's love language and what is it that makes them feel loved and feel good and be proactive about situations instead of allowing you to miss in that opportunity and then allowing outside stresses to cause stress on your relationship. So think about that. Think about the things that make her or him loved and that you know you can do. And many times, you know, at least in my experience, they aren't massive things. They're little things. They're those little things that show that you care. And that goes a long ways when you guys are

dealing with so much stress. So that's in my own personal notes to be on top of that today. So I think that makes a world of a difference. Yeah, totally. I could echo all those sentiments. So also, I think something that's really helped Courtney and I at the end of the night. And I know some of these other gurus out there will really promote this whole gratitude journaling and just really like centering your mindset around what is going well and what things you're grateful for and thankful for and things that are happening that you can really focus your energy more on

those things which then help to kind of promote a more positive environment around and to close out your day so you don't have these running thoughts about certain things that have irritated you about the other person or things in the way that just keeps spinning and spinning and it just grows into something that's bigger than what it should have been. It's closing that loop with something positive has really been helped. I like that a lot because I think if you agree, especially if you're not fighting, right? You're like everybody's level headed and you can say, okay, let's every night,

let's talk about what we're grateful for, regardless of what happens. I think that's good because it makes you feel more secure. I think one of the challenges sometimes when you're, I don't care who you're dealing with, when you're having struggles, is, do you feel totally secure with that person? Like if I argue with my parents, I don't think in the back of my mind, like, my parents

are going to disown me. I know they won't. I know I'm secure there, so we could focus on really the issue at hand. But if you argue with someone that you don't necessarily feel secure with, then it becomes not just the situation at hand, it becomes like, oh my gosh, what does this mean about the rest of us? And so I think that gratitude, what you just said, Jess,

and I think that could be really, really effective. Next question is from Shee Beast Sarah. Are there any discussions or topics you guys have had that you each completely disagree on or can't come to a collective conclusion on? You know, we used to disagree more in the beginning when we first started a mind pump, but eventually I convinced everybody.

We've all come around to. Yeah, come south. I'll agree with you. A lot of times the disagreement, even back then, I think, because I remember I was probably the one who I tried to challenge south. There was a lot of times in this podcast early on, where I, and I still kind of do this, probably not as much, that I will challenge, argue, or debate. And it's less that I just disagree with what you're saying. I'm always trying to think about what everybody else

is thinking. You're trying to voice other people's opinions out there. Yeah, that's also a great way to learn and to really meet. Right, yeah, exactly. Right, I want to hear you elaborate. I know that you're such a great communicator. And so you'll say things and I know that I've trained hundreds of clients that I've had to go deeper

on that subject or that I've challenged that with me. And so I'll come out sometimes and challenge something that he's saying, not so much because I disagree, but because I know that there's a lot of people that are thinking in their head that they don't agree. And so I want him to explain deeper and us have more dialogue. The only thing that we probably challenge each other the most on things that actually don't make the podcast

that are more centered around the business. I think that I hold total, we don't really disagree over fitness and nutrition stuff. Yeah, I mean, if you've been doing fitness long enough like the three of us, you begin to kind of come to the all the same conclusion. It's what we find with any of our peers too. So, you know, when we link up with a Joe DeFranco

or a Ben Pekolsky or a Ben Greenfield, people that have been doing this for decades, there's not a lot of stuff that we really disagree big time on. I mean, it's science, application, and then experience. And when you got all of that for that long, you all kind of come to the same conclusion. Now maybe we have different strategies.

Like we definitely have, when we talk a lot on the show, you know, the way we coach somebody, maybe there's things that I focus more on, Justin focuses on something else, Sal does that are a little bit different, but I don't think it's areas that we necessarily disagree. And even when it comes to, you know, because this is something that we all practice,

I think this is a very important practice as well. It's very valuable because inevitably when you work with partners, you're going to disagree at some point on something. It's just the way it is, okay? People are different, you're going to. But at the end of the day, when you decide to move forward, you all have to adopt it as if it was your own idea.

This is very important. We've made business decisions that, not all of us agreed on, that didn't work out or that did work out or whatever. At the end of the day, if we're sitting here arguing or debating what's a better option and how we should we invest this and what should we do here? And we all decide, okay, that's where we should go.

We all accept it as our own idea. This is very important because it's not necessarily as important if the idea succeeds. It's not hard to adopt an idea that succeeds. That's really easy. Oh, you know, I know Justin came up with that idea, but I'm part of it now that it crushed. Yay, I'm glad we did it, right? It's when idea fails, which is going to happen too. If you're, look, if you swing your bat enough,

you're gonna strike out and you're gonna hit some home runs. So it's very important that when we move forward or when anybody moves forward, if you move forward with a partner, that if they have an idea that they are totally forward, you're not really sure about, but then they eventually convince you now that you're moving forward, accept it.

Because if it fails, that's when the partnerships get stressed. What you don't want to be is in a situation where an idea fails and then your partner or whatever. Or what are the files on. Yeah, oh, I knew it. I told you. That was supposed, because what is that going to do for the future? Well, that's going to prevent us from moving forward with strength and confidence and

unity. It might either make you feel like you can't voice your ideas or it might make you feel like now you can't agree with the other person's ideas because they didn't agree with mine. So that's super, super important. So although we, and we do, we get into debates and stuff all the time, you're right Adam, it's never on the podcast now because it doesn't have anything to do with

what we would podcast about. But at the end of it, I mean, if we do something that I don't agree with, but we're doing it, I'm now it's my idea too. All right, let's do this. Usually the only ones it's like we're speculating because like you said, most of the things that we know

really align well with everybody's backgrounds. Like everybody has different experiences, training people and finding different nutrition, ways to coach and behaviors that they focus on. But as we all present them, it's funny how it all connects. It all, all those dots align, and then you get a deeper understanding of what that truth looks like.

So we're always trying to find that. So even if somebody brings up an idea, it's like, well, what are the other things to consider with that idea? What are other angles there that I could kind of pick apart? But it's not really like a definitive, like, well, no, no, this is what it is, because I don't know that most of the time

that we do have a different opinion, it's that it's not fully formed yet. No, I think you have to, I mean, I'll speak for myself, I value us succeeding and I value our partnership more than I value being right. Oh, all of us on that page. Right, so, and that's a great winning team.

That is a mindset that will lead to success. If you value being right more than those things, you're screwed. There's no way you're going to possibly succeed. Well, it's really hard for the three of us to really disagree on something that we've each been doing for two decades. And again, it's science-related. It's hard to have a staunch difference. Oh, I totally disagree with what Sal thinks about this.

And there are that with the business because the business is so new, right? The business is every of all changing. And there's so many different avenues, right? So a lot of times off air, what you don't get to hear is, you know, maybe arguing over like, no, I think we should put more of our focus here. No, I think we should put more. And the reason

why we argue in debate is because there's uncertainty because none of us can say, I built this media fitness company before. And so it's speculation. We think that this will happen. And what's great about that is, is sell, hit it on the head, is that, you know, we all buy into whatever we agree on, no matter if it was something I was pushing against and saying, no, I disagree. Once we agree, I own it, and if it fails, I still own it, and it's not, see Sal, you were wrong. It's like, you know, none of us knew we were all speculating. The best way to find out is to agree upon something, take action, move forward on it, find out if it's going to fail or if it was the right decision.

If it was the wrong decision, we move and we pivot the other direction. And the faster that we can come to agree and so on that and accept that, the quicker that we can get to the right answer. And plus, you want to embrace disagreements. So long as you, again, you have a healthy partnership because, look, let's say you are very risky, minded. You are aggressive. You want to take lots of chances, and you want to throw caution to the wind. Imagine if your partner was exactly the same way, right?

We can think of the risks being amplified. What if you worked with a partner who was more cautious and conservative? Now you might have a little bit more balance. Now you might have a more balanced approach. So, I mean, if we were all exactly the same, if my three partners were all exactly like me, or if they were all like Justin or Adam or Doug, you probably would not find as much success. You would have less disagreement. You'd have no disagreement, but you'd find less success.

So, you got to kind of embrace all of that. It's all part of the game. And I also think it's hard. And this is why partnerships, whether you're talking about marriage or business, usually fail. It requires everybody to understand that. It's very, very difficult.

Look, we have another, we are gonna air another prime webinar. I think this one's on the 30th if I'm not mistaken. And this is the one where Justin is gonna be teaching We are going to air another prime webinar. I think this one's on the 30th if I'm not mistaken. And this is the one where Justin is going to be teaching you how to do a self assessment. Okay, so he's going to take you through a self assessment. He's going to teach you how to prime your body. Go to mapsprimewebinar.com, sign up.

If you show up when it's airing live, we will all be on there answering questions. It'll actually be on video. You get to see us with our, at least me with my quarantine hair. So it's a real good time. So make sure you go and check that out. Also, I don't know if you know this, but all of our podcasts are recorded on video.

So you can, I know you like listening to us, but watching us might be fun too. You can see what we look like and the funny gestures we make and sometimes just and worse funny hats. Anyway, go to YouTube. It's the Mind Pump Podcast page and you'll see all of our podcasts on video. And we also break them down, break them down, question by question. So if you just want to watch the answer to one question, you can do that only on YouTube.

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