Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1319: What to Do When Your Lifting Form Breaks Down, Determining the Optimal Amount of HIIT to Add to Your Training, the Best Way to Consistently Maintain Your Physique & More

Episode Date: June 20, 2020

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about remedying form breaking down, how frequently to rotate HIIT training through your programming, the best way to maintain your physique, and whether food stamps should be banned from use on junk food. The latest installment of the Mind Pump Window Series. (5:50) The difference between world-class and experienced martial artists. (7:39) Bruce Lee Vs. Wong Jack Man debate, the legend of Bruce Lee & MORE. (14:50) They are changing the name of everything now. (20:30) Understanding the complexity of the human psyche. (25:35) Jeffrey Epstein, the world’s creepiest person. (32:13) Space is scary. (36:42) New product alert from Magic Spoon! (39:17) Instant Pot ribs are Adam’s new jam. (43:20) Butcher Box waitlist back open! Sign up today. (44:40) #Quah question #1 – I'm in the last phase of MAPS Aesthetic and I have noticed my form breaking down in some of the later reps. But I also feel like lowering the weight is not beneficial either. What suggestions do you have to remedy this? (48:53) #Quah question #2 – Similar to mini-cuts, can I alternate short periods of HIIT training with more traditional resistance training sessions to keep my body from adapting to the intensity of HIIT over time? How frequently would you rotate HIIT training through your programming? (55:14) #Quah question #3 – I'm at a point now where I don’t always want to be cutting and bulking. How do I set my calories to maintenance? What’s the best way to maintain and how do I know I’m staying on track? (1:00:20) #Quah question #4 – Should food stamps be banned from use on junk food? (1:03:15) Related Links/Products Mentioned June Promotion: MAPS HIIT ½ off! **Promo code “HIIT50” at checkout** Bruce Lee Vs. Wong Jack Man: What Really Happened? Tao of Jeet Kune Do – Book by Bruce Lee Uncle Ben's, Mrs. Butterworth's and Cream of Wheat review branding after Aunt Jemima announces name change Comedian Chris D’Elia Responds To Allegations That He Harassed Underage Girls Online Jeffrey Epstein: Filthy Rich | Netflix Official Site Astronomers detect regular rhythm of radio waves, with origins unknown The Astrobiological Copernican Weak and Strong Limits for Extraterrestrial Intelligent Life Visit Magic Spoon for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Visit Butcher Box for this month’s exclusive Mind Pump offer! MAPS Fitness Aesthetic The Most Overlooked Muscle Building Principle – Mind Pump Blog Mind Pump #1282: The #1 Key To Consistently Building Muscle & Strength (Avoid Plateaus!) Mind Pump Podcast - YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources

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This is where we talk about current events. We bring up studies. We talk about our lives. Sometimes we mention our sponsors. So let me give you the rundown of this whole episode. We start out by talking about black belts in martial arts versus world class martial artists. There's a big difference there, which led us to talk about Bruce Lee and his legendary fight with Wong Jack. Apparently there was an actual fight that happened between

the two of them and one was using the Wong methods. Dang, that's pretty good. Am I right? Then we talked about Cracker Jacks. Oh, that's offensive. Did they change the name? Then we talked about Cracker Jacks. That's offensive. Did they change the name? Then we talked about Chris D'Lia. He was a comedian. I thought was hilarious. There's news coming out that he might just be a terrible creep. But there's more stuff coming out.

He might not. We'll see. Which led us to talk about Epstein, the world's creepiest, most disgusting person. That is a bona fide creep. He didn't kill himself. Then we talked about aliens. There's probably aliens out there.

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Or do they appease their ego? We answer that question. The next one, this person says, look, I like hit training. That's high intensity interval training. I think they're using the MAPS hit program at the moment, but they don't want their body to adapt too much to it, so they want to know how to alternate it in with traditional resistance training. The next question, this person says, look, I don they want to know how to alternate it in with traditional resistance training. The next question, this person says, look, I don't want to cut or bulk.

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do the music in the music. Yeah. Hey, wait, like as you're like, you know, on hold. Pippu, Pippu. Did I ever tell you? Pippu, Pippu. Do this with your kids. I'm just saying, they'll love this. You guys ever get telemarketing calls on your phone and you can see it, right?

It says, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I do that with my kids. I'll get it and I'll answer it on speaker phone and then just have fun to see if my, you know, make my kids laugh. Yeah. I did that once. So I got, I answered it, hello, and they're like,

oh, and I always know, because first off, I see the number, no one can say my name. Is this Mr. D. It's definitely. It's cell, di, fano here. And I'm like, yeah, absolutely. Can you hold for a second?

They're like, okay. And then I go, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, and my kids are in the, I'm gonna crack it up. Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, and then And my kids are in the kitchen. I'm gonna crack it up. Do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do. And then they have a good time. Yeah.

Dude, did you see the guy outside yesterday at him? I did, I saw the story. Oh, I forgot about that guy. I saw the story, I saw you guys getting all fired up. We have, no, we have tinted, we have tinted mirror windows or whatever, and so people like to look at themselves in it when they walk by. And there was a dude like full on mask and everything.

Yeah, you had a backpack with like a boom box. Yeah, and he was like doing some weird stuff. So Justin was just, I was jamming with him. Oh, jamming. You know, like I feel like he was like mentally like hyping himself up for some something shenanigans. You know that Rachel saves those, right? You guys know that.

Yeah. They're on the highlights of the IG story page. So on IG, the main one, she highlights all the characters that combine all the ones that we've done. She's been collecting them. It's pretty funny. I went through actually not that long ago just to see how many she has.

And there's quite a few people that she's caught. That's great. That's it in front of her. Yeah, that guy was a little suspect. I saw a woman and she It was questionable if she was homeless or not Just by the way she appeared so I don't know Pretty large she walked in front of the mirror and then she looked in the mirror and she was looking at her teeth

And then she pulled her pants open. So I should pull them now she pulled them open wow put her hand down. Oh, oh scratched something pulled her hand back out and then, all right, yep. Nope, yes, she did. A check, huh? Just a little quality control. She did, she did a smell. She cares, yeah.

Who's that, you know, what are you doing? Better than someone who doesn't care. Oh, you have so much right. That's so gross. That's the most disgusting thing. When I saw it, I was like, Fish market. Oh.

You make it worse just now. I have to. Too far, bro. It's just not. It's never too far. I'm gonna call you Doug. Yeah, I know. Doug is too far.

After I present Doug. Yeah, for sure. Dude, I was watching this video yesterday on the internet. It's not like an old guy when I said, I'm the internet. The internet. I'm the internet. guy when I said, on the internet. On the internet. Yeah, on the internet.

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You would be a black belt and basketball, but that doesn't mean you're an NBA level. Right. You know what I'm saying? Good analogy. Yeah. Have you guys ever done that? Have you ever gone against those last, yeah. We've talked about that. Right. Yeah, you know, good analogy. Yeah. Have you guys ever done that? Have you ever gone against no class? Yeah, we've talked we've talked about that. Yes. At when Justin worked for me, we we closed down I think we brought this up on the show. I felt like a toddler. We closed it. And the irony of this though is they weren't even world-class basketball players.

They were world-class football players. Yeah, but just but just because that just shows you you the level difference the athleticism of them. I mean We had all of us guys had played basketball. Not none of us were in be or anybody even you know division one college players But some guys played in college. A lot of us. I was awesome. Yeah, we're we all like to think we were pretty awesome my layups and we played You know five of the 49ers and, dude, we just got lit. And they weren't even that good, but they were just so on another level athletically, the stuff, the way they could get up is a core and rebound the ball, the things that really matter,

saying they could do that. They're making shots from half court. Yeah, it was like, we, I'm like, what is happening? And then you can't stop them, like, run into the paint. Dude, when I did, when I was doing Jiu-Jitsu, really, consistently, there was this guy that came in, totally new, had no experience with Jiu-Jitsu.

Big dude, he was like, 340 pound, white dude, tall. And I remember when we're doing the warm-ups in Jiu-Jitsu, they make you do things like you do judo rolls, and you do cartwheels, and you do all these drills and stuff. And you see a big three and a 40 pound dude, and you don't assume that they can do all this stuff, right? Yeah. This dude was doing one arm, you know, cartwheels,

and he didn't know how to do a judo roll, saw one, decided he would try it and did it, and I remember looking at him, like, what is going on here? He was a Canadian, he played pro football in Canada. So he wasn't even NFL, he was just a pro in Canada, but I couldn't believe how athletic he was. And then when you would go against him

and Jiu Jitsu is very technical, so he didn't know what to do so he would still get beat by black, but he's so strong and athletic that you knew as soon as you learned a little bit of something, you were a little bit too., you were super, super, super dangerous.

Yeah, there's been a few football players that have crossed over into MMA. Like, I remember when Herschel Walker was doing it through like Strike Force, demolishing, and he's like, was he like 50 something? Yeah, when he got in, I was like, man, it's just like, he's just been athletic his whole life. I've gone against world class, you know, Jiu-Jitsu

and Judo guys, and I only got up to purple. I wasn't even a black, but I was decent. You know, I was decent in my club, but I wasn't world class or anything like that. And I remember going against some of these guys and it was like, they would just touch you and you would hurt. They were just so exceptionally good.

Now, being somebody who's gone through that, now do you feel like at your level, not world classclass, we're not, we're all at a level. Yeah, like your level of guys that within your community, that are all doing, rolling around and stuff, is there a clear difference between purple and black? I mean, is it like that? If there is, as clearing as the,

what you just explained with the black belt to the world-class black. So the thing about Jiu-Jitsu, that's interesting, is that it takes a long time to progress. So it would take you of consistent, good, train, and I say consistent, like three days a week or more, all the time competing, take you anywhere between three to five years

to get a purple belt for most people. Sometimes people take longer, but if you're really good about three years, the exceptional Jiu-Jitsu guys, maybe a little bit faster, those are the world class guys, but usually it's around that long. So by the time you're a purple bell, you've been doing it a long time. Whereas other martial arts, now is what you can get a black belt in that period of time. Okay. So then what's the, what's the time frame now to go from, from purple to black? Just to go from purple to black would be like another three, four years.

Wow. And it goes, these are the belts. It goes white, blue, purple, brown, black. There's not very many belts. So it takes a long time to progress. The difference between a purple and a black belt is just finesse. A black belt is setting you up.

Three, four moves in advance, whereas a purple belt is kind of forcing their setups a little bit. And then there's a big difference whereas a purple belt is kind of forcing their setups a little bit. And then there's a big difference between a purple belt who's just got one and one who's had one. Now for a while. Now is it done so well? Like is it so accurate you feel that it's very rare

that you see a brown or black belt lose to a purple belt? It's not super rare, but it's not super common either. Because of course there's levels, right? So you could be, I've beaten black belts as a purple belt. It's not super rare, but it's not super common either. Because of course, there's levels, right? So you could be, I've beaten black belts as a purple belt, not often. But I have beat them, and usually it was because I was just stronger. So my strength, I was able to add that to the mix. But usually I would get, you know, I'd say eight or nine at a 10 times a black belt would take me out. And I would imagine, so when you're rolling around like that you're you're not talking about competitions where you've met black You'd be back like because you would be within your weight class, right? Yeah, yeah, and that's that's the other thing too about jujitsu is because it's so full contact and you're training

When you progress even if you don't compete you fight you're fighting all the time. Yeah, so you're you're good You're you're gonna be pretty damn, pretty damn good. But the same thing though, the difference between world class and just your regular, I'm good in my club. Whole different, the whole term world class. You know, my favorite is these entertainment trainers, you know, out there that are like mainstream, that when they announce them, world class trainer, they like just got like

their one certification, just to you know protect themselves. They're like, no, you fit the part. Yeah, yeah. Your world class now. Yeah. Now, ironically, now that's more common the other way. It's rare that you see you meet a world class trainer and they're truly a world class trainer.

Never. Yeah, that nobody calls themselves that. What an asshole. Yeah. Yeah Never. Nobody calls themselves that. Yeah, but an asshole. Yeah, yeah. I don't even say that. Creator of urban cowboy hip hop class in world class. The most popular DVD sales he can build an ass like you've never seen.

You know why? Because real world-class trainers, or whatever I hate that term, but we're applying it this way, but real world-class trainers would be boring because you know that, you know what I mean? Yeah. They wouldn't be super exciting. Like I wanna lose 30 pounds, what do I do?

Because they've reduced it all to the simple things that actually work. Yeah. All right, here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna do an assessment first. Yeah. Then we're gonna do some correctional exercise for about 20, 30 minutes.

He's world class, blah, blah, blah. I don't want you to get too sore, right? And then as far as diet, let's worry about that in about a month. And then let's see what happens. Like zero, you know, zero media. Oh my God. Did you guys speak of like black belts and whatnot and all this stuff?

Like so, have you guys ever seen, man, I was trying to remember is that Wong Jack versus Bruce Lee. So like, or heard about it, I should say. I guess like back in the day, they had a scrap because he was like a kung fu master. And found out like Bruce Lee was training all these, like, you know, white guys and like people that,

you know, weren't in the inner circle of martial arts and all this stuff and got pissed off and like challenged him, you know, to, to fight. Oh, I know about this. Yeah. I have heard about, so Wong Jack, correct me if I'm wrong, I'm trying to fight. Oh, I know about this. Yeah. I have heard about. So Wong Jack, correct me if I'm wrong. I'm trying to remember,

because I was a huge Bruce Lee fan, I was a kid. He was traditional Chinese kung fu. Yes. And Bruce Lee was teaching kung fu, but he was teaching his brand, which was very, it was not traditional. Yeah, it was more Wing Chung, I think. No, it was, well, he called itKun Do, but he would integrate boxing.

He would integrate some wrestling moves and just like the dancing that he did with his, that he learned that footwork he learned from boxing. And they didn't like that. So there was a challenge and whoever won got to teach or whatever. So there, yes. So there's some like debate as to like, to only because both camps have different stories. It's so funny in martial arts, they try to create these legendary figures out of the one punch, death, move, and all this stuff, like five finger death punch or whatever.

And so I'm sure they're trying to protect him, but like, I guess he whooped his ass. Who whooped his ass? Bruce Lee. Oh whooped his ass. Bruce Lee, to the point where the guy like basically got up and like kind of like ran away. And so like and later on, and I guess like Bruce Lee was like, man, that wasn't effective enough. Like his techniques weren't effective enough and it like like promoted him to go learn more techniques and then incorporate like more of a, yes.

I do remember that. I'm not a styles. And I guess this is when he got into fitness, because it exhausted him. He got too tired. He got exactly right. He got too tired, so he became a fitness fanatic. You know, he, Bruce Lee would work with bodybuilders

of the time to learn bodybuilding techniques, weight lifters, boxers, to try and learn the different, you know, and he became like a bodybuilding, like a fishinato. He loved lifting weights, he trained his forearms like crazy. That was a big body part that he liked to work on. Pretty cool. There's a book called The Tao of G. Kundal.

I don't know if you guys have heard of it. It's like the philosophy of G. Cundo. Really, really cool book. I read that. This is a documentary you're watching. Where did you see this? No, this is an article I read. It was like, all that's interesting.

And so it kind of went into the backstory of all that. That was like this underground fight that like not a lot of people were supposed to know about. And I think it's more like saving face because he was like a real legit like black belt master in Kung Fu, so he got, but he got his ass. Were you guys big fans when you were kids? Oh yeah, I actually was like, one of my favorites.

Yeah, it is. Yeah, I was a big fan. You weren't a big fan? No, I don't think I even got introduced to him till way later. I think I saw Inter the dragon like, I wanna say like after high school even. Wow. So I really didn't follow, you know, I don't it just my friends weren't into that we weren't into it

I was never I where I grew up there was net there was I grew up small town So there wasn't even like a martial art studio So it's like my school that I went to like there wasn't kids that were doing that So it wasn't even a thing that you talked about like as Kato I was always like what the hell like Why isn't he the main superhero? He's whipping everybody's ass for this guy. Oh, you watched the Green Hornet? Green Hornet, yeah.

It was silly. He was, I was a huge fan. Enter the dragon was one of those movies that, when you're a kid, completely changed my life. It was so awesome. And then a game of death. Was that the one with Chuck Norris in it? Which one was that?

Yes. No, the one with Chuck Norris was... Into the dragon was that? Yes. No. The one with Chuck Norris was... Into the dragon's the one where he like he takes time. He like whoops everybody's ass. Yeah, like levels of it. Yeah. Okay. No return of the dragon I think is the one where he fights Chuck Norris. Okay. That's where they were they present the different fighters. It's where he grabs his chest there and like pulls his... Right, his chest rips it out. Yeah. No change. And he was, I mean I thought he was super jacked, right? I mean, he was obviously a small dude, but he would do the lat spread.

So when he would like prepare for his fight, to do this big lat spread or whatever, apparently he flexed Wheeler was inspired by Bruce Lee. Oh, flex was inspired by him. Yeah, was inspired by him to become a martial artist. I loved reading about him and his training I was inspired by him to become a martial artist. I loved reading about him and his training and his philosophies. He was the first, I guess, the original mixed martial artists in the sense that he would, I know he watched Muhammad Ali and learned from his footwork. So if you watch some of his martial arts films and the way he dances and moves,

he picked that up from boxing. That's not a kung fu, you know, way of moving. Interesting. And in Jikundo, you guys got me going now. One of his hallmark moves was to intercept your punches and kicks. So he would do these short kicks and punches to stop a kick or punch from coming towards you. Pretty cool, pretty cool stuff. Yeah, I know.

I was into a two-sale before. I know. Super cool. No, they were cool. I didn't get an air to do it till a way later. And I think it doesn't-sale memory. I know. Super cool. No, they was cool. I didn't get introduced to it until a way later. And I think, doesn't that matter as a kid? Like, what point of your life does something make an impression on you?

Yes. Like, I was already too cool, you know, with myself by that time to like fall in love with it. But if I came across that when I was like in sixth grade, probably when you guys did, it probably would have made this huge impression on me. Fist of fury, that's another good word. That was a great one.

Anyway, did you guys hear that they're changing the name of Cracker Jacks? Yes, I did. They're changing the name of everything right now. That's gotta be a joke. Uncle Ben's rice is getting changed, and Jemima's getting changed, Quaker Oats is getting changed.

Yeah, so now they're changing Cracker Jacks to Caucasian Jacks. So it's like, Caucasian Jacks. Yeah, two offensive. That is getting changed. Yeah, so now they're changing cracker jacks to Caucasian jacks. Caucasian jacks? Yeah, two offensive. That is not real. Yeah, I'm sitting back watching all this and I'm like, meanwhile, the most stereotypically terrible video game of all time continues to exist, Super Mario Bros. Oh, come on, man.

Yeah, Plumber with a big mustache. Yeah, the hell's going on here here anyway. I'm like whatever I'm like whatever about all of it Dude it's like I guess if you think it's necessary to talk about lucky charms, dude Yeah, that's that's the worst. That's also terrible. No, I this whole thing's going on I did you know the history of angiomime? I read this. I don't know if this is true Maybe Doug can lick this up. So apparently she was a slave. Yeah, she then was freed and then Beke I think she was one of the first African-American millionaires and because she sold her company to whoever owns

She wasn't the first because I know the first. Yeah, I know the first was the the girl that I that they did Netflix in a documentary Oh, yeah, the hair. Yes. What's her name? Adam? Oh, no, I'm Adam. Um, I know who you was the girl that they did Netflix and a documentary on it. Oh yeah, the hair. What's her name, Madam? I'm Madam. I know who you're talking about. Yeah, that was really good. Do you watch that series? I did.

She's a hero, mine. I can't believe I forgot her name. Yeah, it'll come to me. It'll come to me. But yeah, so she was a very successful business person, apparently. And then she sold her brand. If I'm not mistaken, maybe Doug again.

So why would you want to remove her from the brand? I think as it presents the argument, is it presents a stereotype? So that's why they're trying to... I wonder if the family gets a say in that. Like, I don't even know if they still make any money off of it or if they just sold the whole rights of it. Oh, it is owned by somebody.

Oh, you know what I think I did? It's an abysco, oh my God. Pepsi, I think owns it. I think Pepsi owns them and Quaker, I believe. I think I read that. So you're probably right. But still, I feel like the family's name, I would hope that they would.

History behind it. I would hope they would be able to have some say in that or at least be able to voice their opinion on that. Like, I don't know. All of history is being twisted and like changed. Well, history's fucked up. History, Madam CJ Walker was the one that I wanted. Yes, yes. History's fucked up. Some of us. History, Madame C.J. Walker was the only good one. Yes, yes.

History's fucked up. It just is. Yeah. I don't care. This is the truth. There's no convenient, yeah, you can't like just cherry pick. You got to take it all in. Here's the problem. If you go back, so if you believe that humans progress, we progress our idea generally.

And some ways we fuck up. But if you look at the whole continuum of human evolution, we tend to progress the way we think, we tend to progress the way we treat people and treat each other and the way we think about things. So if you judge history and use the context of today, you're always gonna find fucked up shit, you know what I mean? Like, you go ahead, Doug.

I was gonna say, Antjamaima is actually not a real person. No, okay. So the woman that was the first model for the brand was a former slave. Okay. So yeah, I don't think Antjamaima ever existed nor did Antjamaima make a lot of money. Oh, she's definitely not a pro.

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of whatever they did great in history, whether that was they scored the most three pointers in the fucking NBA ever. Like sure, that's awesome. He's awesome to watch it as crap. I don't fucking know how he treats his wife. I don't know how he talks to his kids. I don't know what his beliefs are.

I'm not gonna like stand by someone. And if he's not a bad person, okay, maybe I don't buy his jersey now and you can voice up, but to like try and tear someone down or destroy something because of that, I'm like, I don't know. I just, I don't get on board. Well, I think of human beings.

I think if you go in that, and again, there were a lot of terrible, historically speaking, especially in the context of today, there was a lot of terrible shit, but if you go down that road, nobody's safe. There is no historical figure that's safe from that kind of scrutiny. And again, I don't even know if any of us are safe.

If everybody was followed around by a camera, if everybody's text messages and conversations were recorded. Important searches. Yeah, and what's What's all, what? Yeah. I mean, that would say a lot. It would tell a lot. I think so.

I mean, for sure. For a variety. Yeah, I think it's my life. I mean, look, you know what the human nature is? That if somebody's good at something, we like them before it, and then we tend to think that we like them. And we just elevate them on the passenger.

Well, look, it's called the halo effect. Yeah, it's a true thing. Look at Chris, Chris, D'Aliha, yeah, look what happened with him. Well, and Chris D'Aliha, I loved his a comic. I've seen him twice live.

I think he's hilarious. Then when I hear about the stuff, I almost find myself instinctually wanting to, you want to like, yeah, defend yourself. Defend yourself to fight, yeah, you know, but yeah, you don't know all the details. You don't know, you know, the character behind you know thing but yeah you don't know all the details you don't know you know the character behind these

people like you just don't know that so but that's why too like when somebody gets accused of something I still want I want to hear all the facts as they roll out well he finally he finally came out right he said something in response to it and the response was that he got catfished really yeah so it'll be interesting to see how everything unfolds yeah you know I have my own bias dude against celebrities now starting to become like a terrible, but I automatically think celebrities, remember when we gave the video game analogy,

you know, and I feel like this is how it is in life, right? If you become the greatest at anything, or one of the greatest or world class at anything, the amount of dedication, the amount of dedication, the amount of hours, energy, effort, brain power, thought that goes into becoming this world class whatever actor, world class athlete, whatever you want to say, it has to be almost impossible to not give somewhere else. You didn't do a lot of development on your personal character, your communication skills,

your relationship skills. You're a terrible husband. Why? Right. You know, more than likely, you cared so much about being great at that thing that you, you give a, you give up a little bit in the other areas. I think that's almost always, right? I think it's more rare that you meet somebody who is world class or special at something.

And then there are also this amazing fucking human being. I mean, those are the people that go down in history forever when we talk about, but that's so rare. I think it's more common the other way that you, someone's great at something, they probably suck at a lot of other things. You well, I mean, people are humans are super flawed, there's a lot of bad people that are out there, but like I, going back to Chris, you know, D'Lia,

I, when I heard about all this stuff, first of all, if it's true, that I've obviously a terrible creep. I mean, if any man talked to my daughter that way at the age of 16, you know, God forbid, I find the guy, right? Right. You're a disgusting human being. But what's weird about it is I find my own psychology get fucked with because I like the guy so much first comedy.

I think he's hilarious, I've watched all of his specials, and so I have this without realizing I create this mental... Bias. Yeah, and I think, oh, he's a great guy, I would love to hang out with him. Now you gotta check yourself. Yeah, he's super cool. Then I read this thing, and immediately I want to defend him. Immediately I think to myself, this can't be true.

Crystal Lias, he's hilarious. Well, of course it could be true. He could be a funny creep. That's awesome. And there's also, I mean, there's a lot of comics out there that like a lot of what gives them, you know, their humor is just some of their fucked up tendencies, you know. It's just, there's some darkness in there

that, you know, they're trying to deal with. And I've just seen that knowing like certain comedians and seeing certain things and allegations and things come up with that knowing like certain comedians and seeing certain things and allegations and things come up with that, you know, in that area. But yeah, dude, it is. It's tough because and I'm sure everybody has that, you know, everybody has that person that they're just like, oh, I love that. And they just want to ignore all these other things going on.

Well, it's not even that it's ignored. It's, you know, the book that I'm reading actually gets into this. They do a cool little test and they're talking about it, for an example of like, okay, they give you, so the ideas are going to give you four adjectives. They release two of the first adjectives for you and then your job is to say what you think about this person as a leader, right? So the first one is strong and highly intelligent. Do you think that person will be a good leader?

And your first initial right away, you guys thought something in your head. And then the next two adjectives are corrupt and, you know, manipulative. And then now do you still believe that person a good leader? Now your brain all sudden changes your opinion on that person because you have two new facts or adjectives about that person. That's what's happening is right now the only two adjectives you have is funny, you know, likable. You know, those are the two things that you have of him because that's all the information that you've been presented. It also presents, it also takes those two adjectives and now makes them like almost like a tools for bad. For example, you said strong intelligent.

Now that I know that the person's corrupt. Exactly. Strong and intelligent to be corrupt and then they're corrupt. Oh, wow, they're corrupt and a manipulative thing. They're going to be even more corrupt. Right. Chris D'Alea, right? Would you say funny and likable? Oh, that's great. Any fucking hits on or tries to hook up with underage girls. You right. Oh, my God. He's using those skills to talk to these girls. Exactly. Now it makes him even worse person. That's more devious. That's fascinating when you think about how the brain operates and works. And so, you know, you can only get so mad at people for thinking that way,

because that's we evolved to do that. Our brain is doing such high levels of math at all times, all times non-stop. And you rely on that first system of the brain to get you through your day. If you had to like think logically about every maneuver, everything you say, you wouldn't be able to move. Exactly. You would never get, you would never get, take us first step. That's why it's so easy to just join camps, to join biases and join groups of people that

think just one way and you're like, oh, cool. Yeah. You know, they all think this, so it's gotta be the way I think to. No, it's, it's totally true. One of the reasons why this country, you know they all think this so it's gotta be the way I think to know it's it's totally true and one of the reasons why this country you know worked so well in the early days when when literally if you came here you were an American there would know it was so open right this is back when you know when when people from all over Europe and other countries are just come in and they would just let them in and you figured different religions different peoples you know Germans of tie- Jewish, Irish,

people think, oh, they're all white. They were very different. You know, remember, Europe had two world wars. So they were not at all the same, just because they had the same skin color. How did they all get along? Because they all valued one common thing which was this concept of liberty,

which was, don't bother me, I won't bother you, if we want to work together. If I want to work with you, we can work together, we can agree on these different things. That's why it kind of worked, because you have to have that, get that similar one similar thing that you agree on. Otherwise, you make lots of assumptions, and then, oh, you know, you run into a lot of,

you know, a lot of different problems, but I don't know, man, say, my assumption now with the celebrities is the thrill, and I'm trying to check it, you know, but as soon as I see a celebrity automatically saying, yeah, it's tough. You're, you know, you're a career. Did you know that that I didn't know this that sex traffickers, how many of them have been getting caught and arrested in recent years? Oh, yeah, I actually did see I saw the stats on that. In fact, it was I don't remember what.

What tens of thousands. Yeah, yeah. Like they're doing the stats on that in fact it was I don't remember what what tens of thousands Yeah, yeah, like they're doing great before was in the hundreds right it was a hundred or a thousand a year now It's like 10 20 30 thousand like they're apparently a massive crackdown going on There's a huge crackdown great, which makes me did you guys the Epstein documentary? You guys watch that yeah, yeah, oh my god. I didn't make it all the way through it That's a tough one to just be like, oh, I'm gonna have some popcorn. I'm gonna want it. Oh, dude, like, oh my God,

like it's, there's some dark shit in there. But what frustrates me is, I guess they call it like a fluff piece where they just like really target like one individual as like the ultimate evil in this whole operation. And you're just like, no dude. Yeah. There's all these other really powerful people

in the world that were strung in and involved in the shit. Well, that's the part that tripped me out about that documentary was how this fool got the FBI to turn it up. To do how the fuck is it? Like it's one thing to corrupt like a local police because maybe you went to high school with them and your buddies and what are you guys were way homies

before he became a cop and you became a pedophile. And so then you've worked something out to where you're like, you know, we're boys, you take care of me and it's local. But for shitting from a local to get up to FBI and FBI to like, no, like how does that happen? Yeah, that's crazy. I don't know how that happens.

This is how it happens. You find somebody that wants to be as disgusting as you are. Yeah, that's not right. And now they're in on it with you. Now you got someone them, they got someone you and you protect each other. And that's how they did it. Yeah, that look. And now they're in on it with you. Now you got something on them, they got something on you and you protect each other. Yeah. And that's how they did it.

And he killed himself. I've killed the fuck yeah. Yeah. That's such stupid as that. I can't handle myself anymore. Yeah, that's gotta be the, that's such, nobody believes that. Why isn't anybody losing their mind over that? You know what I mean?

I don't know. Get the fuck it. It's not promoted in the media. And well, no, and here's's a thing you want to talk about some real systemic shit that's some real dude talk about for someone like that to get away for that long fb i'd turn a blind eye to him to get murdered in full fucking protection where they're supposed to be safe as can be to how the fuck is like did you see that the have you seen the flight logs to his little

island yeah have you seen this no logs to his little island? Yeah. Have you seen this? No, I haven't. Dude, Bill Clinton was on that flight, on that, on a plane to his island. I don't know how many times I think over a dozen times. Several of which were his, he signed off his-

Royal family members. Yeah, he signed off his secret, his secret service to not come. You know, you know that, you know that? He actually had a secret service not follow along, which is a big deal for either President or ex-President, is to tell the secret service, no, you stay back. I'm going to go on my own.

Something like a dozen or more times, you're right, one of the royal families, major hedge fund managers, politicians from around the world, religious leaders, dude, there is a web there. It's disgusting. It's that's what evil is. That's what evil looks like. Everybody wants to shy away from that topic, but that is evil right there. Do you guys think that maybe there's something about to be dropped?

I won't hide all that. I won't hide. I think the reason why Trump is so fucking cocky and arrogant is because I think that, so I watched, I just recently watched that old, I think 2018, they did a documentary Netflix did and it's totally slated, right? It's like, it is, they made the documentary

to make him look like a puke. The one thing that I really took from it was, holy shit is Donald connected to everybody. Maybe one of the most connected presidents we've ever had as far as knowing people. And people have got that of great power. And so my theory, as at this motherfucker, has got some serious dirt or has some serious shit

that he can drop. And I think that's what makes him so fucking cocky is because he knows it. If he knows that. At the end of the day, hate me, whatever, whatever you want to say about me, you guys can do everything, do all this crazy shit to make me look bad, but when October comes around,

I think it's gonna, I don't know. I don't know. What kind of shit come out? For people who don't know, of course, election times in November, there's something called an October surprise, where they tend to drop some crazy news or whatever to swing votes one direction or another.

That's why there's a name for it. With everything that's been going on this whole year, this surprise is going to have to be crazy. What are they going to say, dude? Well, that's why I think that is just an awesome thing. Well, I'll tell you some crazy stuff. So they have recorded, maybe this is the October surprise, they have recorded these radio signals

from like 500 billion miles or light years away or something like that. These radio signals that seem to be coming from, maybe life. Well, yeah. Like from the serious star. So there's a repeating rhythm of fast radio bursts emanating from an unknown source outside of our galaxy,

500 million light years away. And it's consistent in the way it's repeating itself, they're really having trouble trying to attach it to a natural phenomena. Dude. So the record is what? You know what's unfortunate about that? That would have been in Saino News.

Like way back in the day with that movie came out like signs or a signal or with Jody Foster, but that won't do. That was like, they're so passionate about trying to like find contact. It was concontent. Well, yeah, good job. I just came through.

Well, along those lines, a professor of astrophysicists at the University of Nottingham, his name is Christopher Consulis. He said that, this is his quote, there should be at least a few dozen active civilizations in our galaxy under the assumption that it takes five billion years for intelligent life to form on other planets

as it did on Earth. So they're looking at it as, in terms of evolution, but on a cosmic scale, and they're using a calculation, they're causing, they're calling the astrobiological Copernican limit. So according to this, and some scientists are giving this a lot of weight, they're saying, well, according to this, there may be around a dozen,

you know, life forms, intelligent life forms in our own galaxy. Crazy. So scary. They're blowing. Get the fuck out here. Well, because I know that they had found bacteria on a comet. And they had found that there's certain strains

that can live in the vacuum of space. And they can be just fine. And then once they hit a planet, it's like, now the vacuum of space and they can do, they can be just fine. And then once they hit, you know, a planet, it's like, now the whole process starts over. Plan, sperm, sperm, and sperm. Yeah, well, they've already shown that that's a very, very likely scenario. Well, think about this way.

What would unite the world right now? Because everybody's so crazy. Yeah, like, oh shit, we're all gonna die. Yeah, the attack of aliens, we can't forget about all of our other stuff. Yeah, let's do this. We aren't waiting to be in a show for our independent stays around the corner.

Oh, no, what a great movie. Yeah, Will Smith killed it, NWB. That movie was awesome. So what was this talk about? This new flavors of magic spoon coming out? I ordered immediately. What is it? Immediately.

They have honey knot, which, okay, cool. Peanut butter. Dude, peanut honey nut which okay cool peanut butter Dude peanut butter did now we got peanut butter. We can mix with chocolate. Oh, Dude, you would be that guy to make chocolate milk and peanut butter You would I am that guy I would be that guy I am that guy so when you eat this Adam when you have a serving how big is a serving? How many grams of protein well? I get I so I don't do like the servings.

I'm trying to hit like 30 grams of protein from a bowl of that. So I think that's like two, that's like two and a half servings or two servings, I think is a little hit that. You have a bowl or a box. Yeah, let me see here. So this says that three quarters of a cup

is the serving that they're using. Right, so I do about two to two and a half of that to get me up to 30 something grams. Okay, well, check this out. So three quarters of a cup of magic spoon cereal, which is not a nut. It's small, right? But that's 12 grams of protein. By the way, this is good protein.

This is way protein, isolate, milk protein, isolate. So it's high quality protein. So that's 12 grams of protein, eight grams of carbs, zero grams of sugar, six grams of fat. So if you double that, you got 24 grams of protein, 16 grams of carbs, 220 calories would be a double serving. And you have, and if you put milk in it, right? If you use actual milk in it, you've got more protein than that. That's like a body builder, like dream snack.

You see what they're doing though. I mean, they're going through the rolodex of all the most amazing cereals that are like reproducing. It's like, you know, you have the honey nut cereals. They went that direction. They got, you know, the peanut butter. I can't wait for when they combine it, like the the recess version of it, you know,

or something like that, or like the lucky charms. Yeah. Have you tried putting on like white bread yet with cereal cereal and you ever do that when you were a kid? Put cereal on like bread and you add like, that's weird. Yeah, you never did that? That is weird. I was a stone before I had a week.

I mean, I did the Lays chips on like Turkey Bologna type sandwiches, yeah. Remember that. You wanna hear, you can do that? Yeah, yeah. You wanna hear the grossest sandwich I've ever had. Let's say, let's say poor stuff. So I would get it. It is. I know. I feel bad when I make hear the grossest sandwich I see. Let's say let's say poor stuff. So I would get it is I

know I feel bad when I make fun of Adam. I know. I don't have a lot. I had spam. He didn't have a lot except his parents bought horses. Yeah, my phone is. But he ate like that's why I didn't have a lot. They bought horses. What guys do it? We got no power. I love the McPenever and Kelly. It does match. You don't love me up with their financial decisions, bro. I didn't have a lot of say at 12. You know what I'm saying? Hey, kids, we're all going to skip lunch for a couple of years.

Okay, but we got a horse. We got top ramen and we got horses. Yeah. No, I used to make a sandwich. This is gross now. White bread, mayonnaise, American cheese, lace potato chips, and spam. You ever have a spam sandwich? No. No. It's actually pretty disgusting.

Good. It's good, but disgusting. Like super salty. Yeah, it's good, but it's... That's like the closest thing to a baloney sandwich, what do you say? Yeah, what is spam? It's just like, it's just like,

I don't even know what kind of ham that is, but I feel like it's like ham-ish, you know, like they just smash it all in here. Well, isn't baloney where they like, it's just like, I don't even know what kind of ham that is, but I feel like it's like ham-ish, you know, like they just smash it all here. Well, isn't Bologna where they like, they dice up like a cartilage and all, it's like everything, right? Like a hot dog, is it? Yeah, yeah, it's a hot dog mush.

Yeah, you know, it's funny though. Nowadays, everybody's like promoting collagen protein so much. That's Bologna. It's just a bunch of collagen protein. What are the ingredients to spam? Let's see here. It's salt, water, modified potato starch, sugar, sodium nitrate.

Oh, the first ingredient is pork with ham added. Hold on a second. Wait, what's pork with ham added? I mean, what's the difference? Yeah, that's weird. It's like having beef with cow added. Yeah, it's a substance called pork. Yeah, we're gonna put some ham in there to make you think it's still part of it.

When I went to Hawaii, I'll tell you what's delicious. I'll stand by this right now. Spam and eggs. Fucking delicious. Have you guys ever had spam? No. It's hell of good. Yeah, it's a big Hawaii thing.

It's hell of good. Speaking of meat. No, speaking of hell of good. Let me tell you what I did last night, Doug. What you do? So I know Doug is the only one that has the Insta Pot, too. Do? Do you guys have the Insta Pot? Yeah. No. So I still crock pot. So I pulled over the on Sunday, yeah, on Sunday, I pulled ribs out to defrost and I was going to barbecue and like Monday got busy, Tuesday got busy. So Katrina tells me she's like,

hey, we need to cook those ribs. I'm like, fuck, I don't have time to smoke them. Those take like four hours. She's like, you know, I found a really good recipe to cook those ribs. I'm like, fuck, I don't have time to smoke them. Those take like four hours. She's like, you know, I found a really good recipe on Instapot. I'll try it out and see what you think. And I'm like, Instapot ribs. I'm like, I don't know. And that was like all we talked about.

She just did it, right? And I came home. She don't do what you say. Yeah, right. She don't listen, right? She's good. Good for you. She does the ribs in the Instapot.

Holy shit, good. Not only good, I think she the ribs in the Instapot. Holy shit good. Not only good, I think she did it in 30 or 40 minutes. So ribs normally take me like four hours of smoke. What, 30, 40 minutes and it came out like slow-cooked them? Yes. Like, oh, she's the liquid smoke in there. So it tastes like that? No, you just lather it with your favorite barbecue sauce inside the Instapot.

That's it. And yes. And it sucks in all the juices. I went to pull it out. I grab it and the bone just comes right out of the thing. I mean, it was like fall off the bone good, dude. It was amazing. What kind of ribs?

Damn. Butcherbox. Oh, yeah, yeah. The amazing. Speaking of which, butcherbox has got a wait list. Yeah. They've got a wait list right now because so many people are signing up.

Well, we did. So, I mean, you can get on the wait list. So, if you sign up for butcherbox, get on the wait list. And I'm not sure how long it'll take, but then you go. Oh, so worth it, though. But then they'll get you your own. Well, this is what happens. So, our audience hasn't really heard us talk about them

for a long time because they, when COVID hit, they exploded. And they, like, more than they ever could have imagined to the point where they had to shut it down because they when COVID hit, they exploded. And they like more than they ever could have imagined to the point where they had to shut it down and turn people away. So they called up and asked us like, hey, I know we're in contract right now, but we can't even get anybody, we can't even help anybody more right now.

Can we do something? And we worked out something to where we can extend their contract and all of stuff, but they are now able to start adding some people from the wait list. And so they said, okay, we can extend their contract and all of stuff, but they are now able to start adding some people from the wait list. And so they said, okay, we can resume back to commercials because we're starting to knock people off the wait list. But, so if you've wanted to get a butcher box

or get in on a makeshift, I tell you what, that has been one of the biggest game changes for me with this whole COVID thing going on. Why everybody was fighting over the mead since it was stressful to go to grocery stores. I mean, being able to get my box, and what I used to have, I used to have it every three months because we are still going shopping in our ourselves.

And we just, we cranked it up to once a month now. So do I. So I literally have to pick up. I do a two, I do two hundred dollar box and I get all this grass fed meat and steaks and I do throw some chicken in there. They're pork. Have you guys done their heritage pork chop?

I've done everything. You talked about it. Yeah, I'm not a huge fan of pork. I'm not a big fan of pork chops Jessica said why don't you try let's try these out throw them in there. Let's see what happens or whatever. I mean They're amazing and it's the heritage pork has got a bit of a different flavor, doesn't it? Yeah, more of a I don't know Like a like a sweet tender flavor or whatever. Yeah, I'm a bit of a filet, and I'm too. We cooked them up two days ago, and my kids, like, they're starting to eat more like steak and stuff, because like before that, we just get them burgers and things like that, but like, you know, there's certain

these steaks, and ever was like, oh my God, I want to try that. And I was like, hesitant, because like, you know, filets, you know, that's my favorite kind of meat. Yeah, you can't have that. Wait, where has it been to have your kiddie your food? Well, because there was two of them. There's one for me, one for Courtney, and then they were going to get the ribeyes, you know,

which some people prefer ribeyes. I get that too, but I prefer filet, but so I let him have mine, and I, you know, and still the ribeye was amazing, but you could just see his face, he was like, oh, like he was so stoked that he got like the prime cut. That's what my box is. My box is the ribeyes, the fillets, the ribs,

and chicken, and then the bacon. Those things like we eat that. So, because it took me a while to kind of figure out. I haven't had the fillet yet. Oh yeah, so it's really good. I was trying to find the combination, all right, because you get a variety box of different things, and there's only so much.

You can't get a whole box of nothing but chicken or that you have to be able to spread it all out, right? So it took me a while to figure out what's the perfect combination of what meats do we eat on a more regular basis to justify being shipped to our house and like that. We've found that, we eat enough bacon, we eat enough flays, we eat enough ribbys,

and we eat enough ribs. I'll tell you what, and this has been observed by many, many strength coaches and bodybuilders and for a long time. I don't know if there's really any science or studies to support this, I should say, but anecdotally, if you want to increase your strength and muscle growth, red meat is one of the best foods you could consume.

And so if you ever wanna do an experiment with yourself and grass fed is good, grass fed's better, right? Especially when you're allowed to read meat. You ever wanna do an experiment with yourself. Try eating more red meat. Replace some of your other meat with red meat, eat it on a regular basis. See if you don't notice a benefit in terms of strength.

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I'm in the last phase of Maps Estetic, and I notice my form breaking down in some of the later reps. But I also feel like lowering the weight is not beneficial either. What suggestions do you have to remedy this? Form over everything. Lower the weight. Yeah.

I think this is a good question because I know that I remember, I remember being in this predicament and I think for many years, I like refused to lower the weight. I was so, I wanted to live. Totally. You want progression. I want to get more. That I would sacrifice the form a little bit to just be able to keep pushing the same weight, you know, so or even sort of drop reps.

So what you'll see in all the programs is, and there's a reason why this is, like we give ranges, six to eight, you know, or three to five or eight to 12. And the idea, like when you're falling a rep range is I'm trying to fall right in the middle of that. And the reason why is so it gives me a little bit of a buffer because I know sets three and three and four or two even sometimes is going to I'm not going to be as strong as I was on set one or set two. So hopefully that I can stick with about that weight. So I no longer have to do if I if I'm if the rep range is 6 to 8, and I'm gauging like for a 7 to 8 range, that gives me, oh, I might have to do 7 on set 3 and

oh, on set 4, I might have to do 6, or maybe even 5, like one rep less, I give myself that kind of play of like my rep range is 6 to 8. I'll keep the weight as long as I can during that, that set, those sets, even if I can just still do five, five's close enough to my six day, but if the weight's getting so heavy, I gotta drop down to three or two, I'm gonna reduce my weight. I'm gonna pull the weight off the bar so I can get closer to the rep range

I'm trying to work it. Although it's important to pay attention to how much you're lifting just to kind of gauge progress and strength and see how well you're doing, you gotta always compare it to the right context. So if I'm going much higher reps, I'm going to use much lighter weight.

If I'm gonna go deeper in my reps, of course, I'm gonna be using lighter weight. And weight is largely arbitrary when it comes to getting your body to respond. Again, you wanna pay attention to notice trends, but it's okay to go much lighter. This really became a big deal for me when I stopped working out in gyms

and I started working out in my own studio and then my own garage. I noticed, when I had to work out, and then I noticed this much later, of course, in hindsight, when I had to work out in gyms, it was a bigger deal to me to have the big wheel on the bar or it was a bigger deal for me to use a certain amount of weight. So I would sacrifice form for my ego.

When I started working out my studio, you know, this is back when I had my personal training studio, middle of the day, you know, I might have one or two trainers training clients, really don't care if they see me lifting X amount of weight or whatever, I started to slowly not give a shit about how much weight was on the bar, and I started to focus on form.

Same thing now that I work in the garage, I grab the dumbbells where I use the weight that allows me to perform good form with the target number of reps, and that's what's gonna give you better results because bad form with heavy weight, it's not as effective as perfect form with lighter weight. So this whole, the second part of the question,

I feel like lowering the weight is not beneficial either. That is your ego talking, because it is beneficial, if it makes your form better. I remember when I also pieced together the importance and what a game changer manipulating my temple was, and when that light bulb went off from me too, that's my thought process. I used to teach clients this.

If I hand you a weight and, you know, let's say I say we're working 12 to 15 reps and you realize on rep, you know, 12 already, this is still pretty easy. You could probably do 20 reps. Like instead of wrapping out 20 reps or getting even heavier weight, those last three reps slow your tempo way down. Make it harder. Make it harder.

You take it, if you're doing a cadence, right, through the first eight to ten reps, and the cadence is about the same, like how fast you're moving the bar up and down, right? And then all of a sudden, you realize it's still pretty easy for you as you're getting close to that range you're trying to end. Slow it way down. Slow it down to four, five, six seconds on the eccentric portion of the exercise and watch the benefits you get from that. And what's great about that is that because you've slowed

that tempo down and you don't have to add weight to that, you're increasing the intensity. That's the signal the body recognizes. It doesn't know that there's 75 or 125 on the bar. It takes the perceived stress that it's getting from the body. You can manipulate that progressively overload that, like the episode we talked about, by manipulating the tempo. So just simply slowing down, keeping the lighter weight,

and slowing the tempo down for the last two reps is a great way to increase the intensity. Yeah, you know, for me, going through hypertrophy type training, I've always looked at it more as practicing those movements to make me better going into, when I change it back up to the one to five rep range, where I'm really doing full force output to try and move some heavy weight.

So some people don't go through that and try to get a nice pomp. And their identity is trying to lift heavy weights within that range, but that's never been my thing, specifically, but I know the benefit of it. So I honestly, I'll take my time, but I mean, that's never been my thing specifically, but I know the benefit of it. So I honestly, I'll take my time, my sweet time, you know, like lower the weight substantially. So that way, I'm paying attention to every little compensation that happens along the

way. So I'm really just honing and refining and practicing, you know, these movements. So I get more effective, more efficient, then going back into my favorite rep. Yeah, I mean, I'll give you an example, right? I could do a set of curls with, let's say, 45 or 50 pound dumbbells, and I can give myself a good workout. I could give myself a great workout with 20 pound dumbbells. I could do it in the same amount of reps, too.

I could slow them down, squeeze, concentrate, make the weight feel heavier. This is a very important skill to learn if you want to train long-term. If you want long-term results and success, you got to learn this because sometimes, many times, it's smarter to go lighter than it is to go heavier. And of course, changing and mixing things up always gets the body to respond better because always pushing weight weight at some point you're gonna hit a limit and what's gonna end up happening yourself so this is an important skill to learn next question is from Connie Chihuah similar to many cuts can I alternate short periods of hit training with more traditional resistance training sessions to keep my body from adapting to the intensity of hit over time. How frequently would you rotate hit training through your programming?

Yeah, it's a good question. And I know it's popping up. Hello, Doug, I'm Karachiwa. Yeah, you said it wrong. I know this is coming up because we have, you know, maps hit is half off. So we get a lot of questions around high intensity normal training.

And also because high intensity interval training is very popular for fat burn or for calorie burn. In a 25 minute hit session or 20 minute hit session, you're gonna burn as many calories as you would with a 50 minute, you know, traditional resistance training session or our resistance training session or an hour of steady state cardio. It's just very effective at burning lots of calories

and it's a great fat burning method of training. So a lot of people are asking questions about this and they're worried about the adaptation that happens from hip. You can definitely alternate, hit with traditional strength training. But we, I mean, I tend to make the argument that it's better to stay in one, get good at it, and then move to something else.

Now, our program maps hits about six weeks long. I think you can focus on hit training from anywhere between three to six or seven weeks, and then you're probably a good idea to move out and try another form of training. But let's say you wanna do hit all the time. Can you throw hit in occasionally to get those calorie burning effects?

Absolutely, you definitely can. I would not recommend doing hit, and it depends on the person, but I wouldn't recommend doing hit more than once or twice a week in place of other traditional resistance training type workouts. You know, and here's the thing that's cool about this.

I don't think there's a right or a wrong answer in this situation. Like, you know, the key that you just need to remember is that any type of type of modality of training, right? Your body eventually gets adapted to it and you need to move out of it. That's the key. And the main people I want to communicate this to are the ones that gravitate to this train. They love this train.

I mean, we waited till release a program like this for as long as we did because we know that. We know that a lot. People love this. Short, fast, harder. Like this, and I sweat more. I feel like, and so they tend clients tend to gravitate towards the circuit training

because they feel like it's more beneficial. Because, and all the research that talks about the fat burning benefits like Sal's talking about. So I first want to caution those people. If you love it like that, don't do it longer than about six weeks, phase out of it and completely go into something else. Now, personally, if you have a really good relationship

with understanding how you should move in and out of modalities and not stick to a type of training for too long, if you already understand that, really well, I personally like to use hit when it's necessary. Meaning, today I have a crazy amount of calls back to back and there's a window where I have about 45 minutes. Like, and that's like literally from us doing something here and then this other call.

And so it's like, I will definitely can't get a full hour workout to get ready for my workouts. Probably take 10, 15 minutes to do my mobility stuff. Shit, that means I only got about 30 minutes or great time to do like a hit. If I'm gonna train, if that's gonna be my window of training today, I would adjust like, and what I should be doing, or what I'm scheduled for

is a more MAP Santa ball, if that's, I'm following a routine like that right now. So I should be doing like a full body hour, good hour long routine. I just, I may not do that. If I do that at that time block, I don't have it. So this is a perfect time for me to intermittently throw in a workout from like the hip program. That's how I like to use it personally, but it doesn't mean that it's the better way. It just means that that's kind of how I like to use it is it makes sense when I don't

always have an hour or two hour window, you know? It's kind of funny how it shifted now. Like I mean, I used to gravitate towards hit training quite a bit, and mainly in the off season, like going back into playing sports, but now I look at hit training as like my sport. And it's mainly because I enjoy moving my body

ferociously, like being able to still have athleticism. So I like to throw it in there, like, probably more frequently now than I did, you know, before that. But still, I'm still leaning hard on my strength training and then also my mobility practices to reinforce, you know, the stability of my joints and everything's in check, which is something that you just need to constantly

consider that and check in on the quality of your joints and are you able to support your body in these, because this is more intensity. This is more stress that your bodies you're gonna go through with the impact of these types of workouts. So if you keep that in mind and it's something that you really enjoy, you know, going to go through like with the impact of these types of workouts. So if you keep that in mind and it's something that you really enjoy, there is a way that you can incorporate it more frequently.

You just have to be able to know how to weave in and out because you will get adapted. You will, your body will not benefit as greatly from it as you would initially. Next question is from Emily Powell 79. I'm at a point now where I don't always want to be cutting and bulking. How do I set my calories to maintenance? What's the best way to maintain and how do I know I'm staying on track? Well, first off, what we believe to be maintenance is a little bit of an illusion. Your body is always gaining and losing a little bit. And over time, if it evens out, that's what appears to be maintenance. So, and, you know, I don't always want to be cutting

and bulking, it sounds like you don't want to do the aggressive cutting bulk. But ideally, the best way to maintain is to figure out how many calories you need every day to kind of stay the same. And sometimes eat a little more than that. And sometimes eat a little less than that. And now, the reason why I'm saying that

is because I feel like that's a healthier approach to nutrition versus saying, 2,500 calories is my maintenance. This is what I'm gonna eat every single day. Nobody lives that way. Well, not only does it only live that way, that's impossible. The metabolism is free-flowing.

Your metabolism is changing day to day. You know, like, it is never a straight line 2,500 calories. You know what I it is never a straight line, 2,500 calories. You know, in fact, you probably rarely ever hits an exact calorie amount like 2,500. It's always moving up and down based, and stress changes that, sleep changes that, your intensity of your workout changes that.

I mean, so many things are going to change how you were eating the last three days versus, you know, all these things are gonna keep, are constantly moving and changing the metabolism. So, you know, trying to stick to a number ever, like, and just say, this is my maintenance when it be around there. I mean, I, what I consider maintenance is this. Like, I would consider I'm in maintenance right now. I'm not really tracking my calories.

I'm not really tracking my food. Um, I, I pay attention to what I'm eating. Like to me, I know it, like not enough protein kinda looks like what plenty of protein looks like. And so I tend to focus on that since it's an area that's hard for me to hit. And so, okay, I'm watching to make sure I get that. And then the feedback I'm getting on

if I'm in a quote unquote bulk or a cut at the time is if I'm putting on body fat. And I'm like, okay, I'm definitely eating in a surplus right now and oh well, it's okay. I'm probably getting a half a percent, a percent. Okay, now it's been 2% body fat I probably put on. And I give myself like this, you know, four to 5% ability to fluctuate.

Like I don't care if I can stay between a, you know, 12 to 15% body fat range by not having to track and weigh all the time. To me, that's, I'm maintaining. And then if it starts to go too far one way or the other, I just course correct. And that's what I consider maintenance, but it's not a calorie number

that I'm even paying attention to or watching. I'm allowing myself to intuitively eat with knowing that, okay, there's a good chance I might be over consuming because I'm putting on body fat. That's okay. If I put on one or two or three percent body fat, I'm not out of shape or unhealthy. And I know I can recourse correct really quick and go the other direction. Next question is from Forever Strong Cairo. Should food stamps be banned from use on junk food? from use on junk food. Well, this is actually a fair question

because you're already giving people money and telling them that they can only buy one type of thing with it, right? So when you get a food stamp, it literally says it must be used on food. So it's a fair question, but here's why I still don't like it. I don't think if we're gonna give people money, it should just be money to spend on whatever you want.

Now, I know a lot of people are gonna say, oh, then some people are gonna spend it on bad stuff, and this is, again, more attempted control, right? So, oh, we're gonna give you food stamps, but you can only buy it on this kind of food, and not that kind of food. And giving them just money means that they're gonna even have more freedom.

I like that because, yes, some people are gonna spend it poorly, but there are gonna be some people that are gonna spend it? Well, who knows how they'll spend it? Maybe they're gonna use it on education, maybe they'll use it to start a business, maybe they'll use it for daycare. So, no, I'm always in favor of less control. I don't like food stamps to begin with. I think people should just get money if we're gonna give them anything,

and make them spend it. But since they already have food stamps, I don't think we stamps to begin with. I think people should just get money if we're gonna give them anything and make them spend it. But since they already have food stamps, I don't think we should add an additional control. Plus, what is the government going to decide what junk food is? If you don't think that they're being influenced by companies by certain brands, yeah. This brand's considered healthy, just because they call it healthy.

Oh, if it's this many grams of saturated fat or this many grams of sugar, it's considered, you know, not junk food or it's considered junk food. I remember they considered pizza to be, you know, vegetable because there's tomato sauce on it, you know, at one point or whatever. Like, I don't like this at all. It's way too much control.

Already we're controlling people just by giving them money and saying you have to buy just food with this. When you don't know what people really, really need, everybody's lives are very complex. If we're gonna give them anything, give them money. And by the way, that would save us money. It would help us eliminate the bureaucracy that administers all this control money.

Just give them a check. Here's your money, spend it how you want. And now he's leaned on charity. Like in terms of, spend it how you want. And I always lean on charity, like in terms of, like, that's how I look at it too. If I'm giving and supporting something, obviously I'm gonna do my homework to see if the foundation organization is legit and they're not just scamming people,

but at that point, allow people to do what they're gonna do with have the individual freedom rights to spend it, however, they feel fit for their situation, their upbringing, whatever. Allow people to be adults and to make decisions for themselves. Obviously, want them to make healthy decisions. This is something that we're passionate about. We try to educate people what those healthy decisions

might look like wherever you're going through what you're trying to do, lose weight or gain muscle mass or whatever, we try to provide information that is best to get you towards those goals. But at the same time, you're an individual. You have the freedom of responsibility of yourself. And I feel like that's what really needs to be highlighted with this kind of stuff.

Well, not to mention that, but we also consider this, if you're on food stamps, you're probably in dire straits. Like you're somebody who is at the brink of not surviving. And that's the idea of food stamps is government help and support for somebody who can't get by, right? Who can't even really feed themselves. They're not making enough money to give them food.

The truth is a lot of junk food goes a lot further than some healthy foods. Go buy a good steak or chicken. Buy the pound is so you spend that you can buy a box of something that'll last in your cupboard forever and is as a tent twice as many calories, which that's what they need is calories to live and survive. And you're getting get it, you can get a lot more of it. If it's some freaking, you know, corn, corn syrup based garbage, it's going to be a lot cheaper. And so you got to, if the person who is in real need of this, that's getting that support, is trying to survive and live, and making them force them into only using it

for healthier foods, which potentially could be more expensive, it's kind of defeating the purpose of it. Now, I'm also in the camp of, like, Sal, or probably even more hard about it. I don't like it at all. And I'm somebody who had food stamps. So I'm not pro food stamps, I'm not four food stamps at all. I think that we're pretty creative human beings and when we're forced into those situations,

I think that we find a way to overcome. And of course, this is my own bias. I understand that in my experience with my family and the people that I've seen around me in this situation, I saw more manipulated or use it and didn't need it than the other way around. I didn't have as many people in my life that I knew that, oh my God, if they didn't get those food stamps,

they might have died. They might not have been able to feed them and their kids and that saved their life and then it got them on, got them up on their feet and then they got a job and then they got themselves going and then they got off food stamps. I don't have a story to share with you that. I have plenty of stories to share on the other of examples

of people that have got it and utilized it because it's something that they can get for free and that did the opposite of motivating them to get out and get a job. They knew they could get these food stamps and they'd be fine. That's what I experienced in my life. So I'm not even a fan-formed period

and if we are gonna give them, okay, which we do, I definitely don't agree with trying to regulate it even more. I just, I just think that you're, it's just a bunch of control. It's more and more, more control. I have no problem with people receiving help and I have no problem giving people help. I think that, I think that the, you know, the test of a good society is how they treat the people who need to help the most. I'm a big believer of that. But if you look at the whole system, if you look at all the benefits that people can receive and you calculate them out, it's actually quite a bit when you add everything up, right? All the different subsidies and you add in all the different types of help and

in food stamps and all other things. It actually amounts to a decent chunk of money, but what people don't realize is to administer all of that through the complex bureaucracies that we've created to to administer all of these much if not more. It's a waste of money. What if we took all of the money that we spent on that? And instead of paying a bureaucracy, we said, you're all fired, we don't need a bunch of government officials handing this out and trying to say, this is for education, this is for food, this is for you. Here's your check, spend it however you want, and then we got to be okay with people deciding on how they want to live their lives. Now, what's that's going to look like? Yes,

I'm sure a lot of people are going to make bad decisions because people make bad decisions. But I also think a lot of people are going to make bad decisions because people make bad decisions. But I also think a lot of people are going to use that money much more efficiently. You know, if you're the mom, if you're a single mom with two kids or three kids, and you have food stamps, you're like, you know what, I really need. I really wish I had this money so I could spend it on some childcare or I really wish I had this money so I could help myself start a business or pay for some education for myself so I can make more money, but I can't do that because I have to spend it the way that they say, or I have to use it the way they say. I think that's totally silly.

It's just more control, and I tell you what, let's just go down that line and see what that would look like. Could you imagine what the government would start to decide what is considered junk food and what is not considered junk food. They've done a real good with the food pyramid. They are terrible, there's a worse people. And you don't know from case to case what somebody needs. You know, like Adam said, you know,

what might be considered junk food is processed food. Process food has some value, it's got long shelf life. A very, very long shelf. Maybe that's what that person needs more at that moment. And we're going to tell them that they can and can't spend it on whatever. I say this, if we're going to help people eliminate the bureaucracy, that already saves us a ton of money, give the money to people, we'll figure out whatever that number is, spend it how you want.

It's up to you. It's up to you. It's your exactly and see what that looks like. But this, yeah, controlling people this way, further controlling them. Yeah, and I'm not a big fan of it. Anyway, with that look, go to mindpumpfree.com. You can check out a lot of free guides and resources to help you with your fitness, your fat loss,

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