Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1323: The Detrimental Effects of Combining Fats & Carbs, How to Use Trigger Sessions to Cut Body Fat, Lessons Learned from Dad & More

Starting point is 00:00:00 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this episode of Mind Pump, the world's top fitness health and entertainment slash comedy podcast, we answer fitness and health questions asked by listeners just like you, but the way we open the episode is with you know just unscripted Fun conversation oftentimes we talk about studies or our lives We talk about whatever we want to talk about sometimes we mention our sponsors So the intro portion took about 36 minutes after that we answered fitness questions

Starting point is 00:00:41 So here's the breakdown of what went on in today's mind pump episode. We started by talking about my hair. Oh yeah. Oh yes, my hair. I'm gonna get it. Where it ferrofos it, though. I'm getting it cut finally, but right now it's got nothing in it and it's fluffy.

Starting point is 00:00:54 Yeah. Then we talk about CrossFit, more CrossFit craziness. Going on right now. Then Justin talked about a new show on Netflix called The Floor Is Lava. That's right, it's based off of all of our favorite. You know you played this as a kid. We all did.

Starting point is 00:01:08 Then I talked about drones, apparently the military just bought a bunch of drones that can fit in your pocket. What could possibly go wrong there? Yeah, keep watching us. Then I talked about gut bacteria and how that may actually influence your eating habits. Your bacteria may be controlling what you crave. Are we people or bacteria?

Starting point is 00:01:27 Then we talked about grass fed versus grain fed meat. We've observed just on our own that when we eat a lot of meat, if it's grass fed, we tend to feel better, then when it's grain fed, I've had a lot of people message us on this as well. Now, we do work with a company called Butcherbox that delivers all grass-fed meats to your door. So, you don't have to go to the grocery store, you don't have to go

Starting point is 00:01:49 deal with that craziness right now. You can go on sign up and then get grass-fed meat sent to your door. Now, because of everything that's been going on, the demand has been crazy for this company. They had to actually stop bringing people on for a little while But they're open back up. So right now you can get on butcherbox.com forward slash mind pump And you will be able to get on their wait list and then they'll email you when it's time to to take your order And by the way that link right there if you use the code mind pump you get a discount on your order Then I talk about how the way we dress got the stamp of approval from young people. Oh, thank God. Probably because we're sponsored by Viori. Viori makes ATHLEASURE wear and they make great ATHLEASURE wear. Very comfortable, has a lifetime guarantee

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Starting point is 00:02:53 So here's how you get the discount. Go to vioriclothing.com. That's vuoriclothing.com. forward slash mine pump. Use the code that's listed on that page to get the 25% off. Then we got in the fitness questions. Here's the first one. This person says, pump, use the code that's listed on that page to get the 25% off. Then we got the fitness questions. Here's the first one. This person says, look, I've heard that some people say it's bad to combine fat and carbs. At the same time in a meal because it can cause insulin issues, is this true? So we answer that for them.

Starting point is 00:03:20 Next question, are trigger sessions useful when I'm trying to cut? If you're confused on what a trigger session is, listen to the episode, we explain it all. The next question, and what ways have you guys subliminally molded your children? That sounds kind of nefarious. Yeah. And the final question. What is the biggest lesson we've all learned from our fathers? So we talk about our dads in that part of the episode. Also, I got something special to announce right now. This is pretty cool. From our fathers, so we talk about our dads in that part of the episode.

Starting point is 00:03:45 Also, I got something special to announce right now. This is pretty cool. It's the biggest sale of the year for us. We never discount everything. Here it comes. Like we are right now. Right now, all individual maps programs, every single individual maps program is 40% off. All of them, 40% off, use the code, summer program.

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Starting point is 00:04:27 So here's the two codes. Summer program for 40% off all programs, summer bundle for 25% off all bundles. The site you go to to get all of this is maps fitness products.com. This will end at the end of this month. This is a once a year, massive, massive promotion. This sale will end again at the end of the month. So go and check it out. I got some DMs about what?

Starting point is 00:04:57 About Jessica's post of you looking at the Bill of Rights. Yeah. A lot of people ask me if you're balding in the back. No, you know what that is? Just bad lighting. It's a little bit of hair loss probably. No, I have my hair slick back before, not right now, as you can tell.

Starting point is 00:05:12 It's all feathered out. Yeah, first of all, let's just look at this. It looks like it. It looks glorious. It's like a... I win just gonna come back. Shhh. You look like a drunk robber to Nero.

Starting point is 00:05:21 What? Why, wait, my drunk? Why, why don't I look drunk? Cause he's like fucked up and didn't do hisero. Why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, a hair stylist. A hair stylist. Not supercuts. That's a big jump. Supercuts are still closed. For the price of five haircuts, I'm going to get one. I got you. I got you one of the black market this year. That's not true. Actually, you're scissors. It's not just. It's not true. I mean, seriously though, I mean, I was the 80s before with the slick back hair, I'm going back to the 70s now. With the fluffy. This was hair back in the day, can you believe that?

Starting point is 00:06:10 Is how people used to wear their hair? Dude, just do nothing. You know, it's funny, you mentioned it. Like I was thinking, it'd be hilarious. If somebody was like, oh dude, let's throw an 80s party. And it was like AD, like after death, like it was all medieval. Oh really? Yeah, did you go to one of those? No, you have a lot of nerdy friends, dude. Don't lie. I

Starting point is 00:06:31 Didn't first of all. Yeah, who has nobody actually dressed like that? Okay, 80s. You do larking stuff, too So I feel like you'd go to a party. I doubt I doubt, you do have a LARPing stick. No, I mean, I've done it, but it's not like, it's a joke, you know what I mean? It was one way that I could, I was, I was, I was trying to kick my brother, my brother. That's like the guy who gets caught dressing up in his wife's clothes, you know what I'm saying? It's just a joke, honey.

Starting point is 00:06:56 It's just a joke, it's funny. It's just a joke. I just want to see how it feels funny. Come on, like you guys haven't done that. What? Yeah. You haven't just jousted, because you're done that. What? Yeah. You're even just jousted because you're like, dude, this will be hilarious.

Starting point is 00:07:07 Oh, shit, I never tell a samosa. Oh, yeah. For a second. You're on bedroom. You want to know what's really weird? Here, this is what's really weird. So I don't remember the last time I bought a soda or just a drink like that, like a sugary drink, whatever.

Starting point is 00:07:24 It wasn't a soda, but a gatorade. Oh, whatever, same category. I never do that, but for whatever reason we're going for a walk. It's not a guilty. Yeah, it feels right now. No, it's so funny. The one time we get, you know, whatever, we run into somebody who listens to the show.

Starting point is 00:07:36 Oh, I love your show. Did I have to blue gatorade in my head? Oh, no. Every time I go off for ice cream or pizza or something, hey! You know what I'm like, yeah like, well odds are a little high. Adam's gonna cigarette in the back. No, I'm throwing it in.

Starting point is 00:07:50 100%. Oh my god. That would be terrible. No, I love meeting people who, you know, listen to the show. I just, you know, because, you know, one of the things the drawbacks of doing this kind of communicating is that you don't get to see the people on the other side. So you don't really know if you're really helping anybody. Well that's what was so awesome about the live events when we were going around and meeting people.

Starting point is 00:08:14 That was a big thing. Finally made it kind of real there for a minute. It did, it did. So it's like you know you get to see someone and then you get to hear them tell you that you know the show has had a positive impact on their health and all that stuff and it makes you feel really happy. I feel like she was a a Doug fan, you know? She listened to Doug's private interview,

Starting point is 00:08:32 which I, you know, it's like, there's only like two downloads on that. This is like, that's not true. Hey, you know what I, no, no, no. It was like one of the top episodes in his podcast. I believe it's true. I believe it was. I know what he told me that yeah said Doug and I I think we're whipped on you to that's not true. I believe that's actually you're stepping your lights

Starting point is 00:08:56 Analytics that's anytime anytime I follow like south interview if it's somebody who he interviewed with first I said what did so get down those was yeah I wanted to know how he did yeah people want to hear I mean people want to hear if I didn't say something crazy it's like it's probably why I get more it's it's pretty there's a 50 50 shot he goes off and we're not there to balance him out Adam just going to hear what Adam says when no one else stops him yeah exactly let's do that one dude did you hear more CrossFit news? Oh, bro. More CrossFit news.

Starting point is 00:09:27 I purposely didn't read it because I know you guys like both read it and I want you to tell me right now. Somebody Greg sold CrossFit to someone else. He sold it. Yeah, he's done. That's right. Oh, Fonito. Now here's the thing though.

Starting point is 00:09:40 Okay. And it's all over like Washington Post. I mean, all the big newspapers are writing about it, but it's a new owner's what Eric Rosa, it's a new owner. Yeah, it's some tech guy, right? I don't know much about it. So he sold it before that other guy

Starting point is 00:09:53 that was gonna reveal all this stuff. So that's, okay, now this is what, and this is what's funny is that, well, not funny, but this is what's crazy is that everybody is talking about his stupid George Floyd statement, but I think the real reason why he's out is because of that podcast. Right.

Starting point is 00:10:09 The information on that is more is more damning than the stupid George Floyd statement. The tweet was stupid. It is what it is. But I mean, the accusations that that guy was claiming about him was way more damning. Yeah, way more damning. Like kind of misconduct, you know, sexual comments and you know, wait, you treated women or whatever and more people were coming out about that. Yeah, so I think I think that's so the fact that he's getting out and he's getting out and the majority of people unless you listen to mine, but are probably under the impression that it has everything to do with the George Floyd thing.

Starting point is 00:10:47 I don't believe that for a second. No way. Now, do you think he sold it at a discount? You know what I mean? Do you think he got a good... Yeah, it's not gonna be at its peak value. I'm sure it went down substantially. I mean, who wants to touch that brand right now?

Starting point is 00:11:04 Well, I mean, if you take it over now, because Greg left, firstly, apologize, then he stepped down. Now he sold it. Do you go to Reebok and these other big sponsors and say, hey, do you want to, hey, can we read and negotiate? Let's redo this because the guy that you guys were mad at is gone. Oh, do you really think it's just that? And you think they were just, I'm over. I think so. I think you're like a reason. Yeah, I think if you're a big company like Reebok

Starting point is 00:11:29 and you decide to move away from a partnership. I don't know, they, I mean, it's pretty quick. Like any accusation you watch how like quickly they drop people to see that. Yeah, but when you're in the hat, what we're talking about millions of dollars and big and big partnerships like that. And this is my opinion, I'm totally speculating right now.

Starting point is 00:11:46 But I would think that it's normally the straw that breaks the camel's back. It's like, I believe that Reebok probably saw things. Well, I think that just may not have been as financially beneficial for Reebok as they expected it to be, maybe. And so, and maybe the contract says you can't break it unless there's like something. Right. And so I think that, you know, a statement, I mean, otherwise, are we getting that fucking weird?

Starting point is 00:12:11 Yeah. Someone does a tweet and then you cancel a multi-million dollar contract. I mean, they've canceled like multi-million dollar shows on, you know, like just one thing or a tweet or anything like that. This is it all over. It's a straight. Well, that Well, I mean, you know,

Starting point is 00:12:25 cancelling, you know, Kevin Spacey off of, you know, what you'm gonna call it because he can. Well, that's a little bit different. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like that stuff happens. Like that stuff is pretty normal to me, but I mean, to do a tweet like that, and then all of a sudden,

Starting point is 00:12:41 you have a fallout with companies. I don't know, that's not true. Well, it's kind of weird right now, dude. Right now, people are afraid to say anything, anything for getting just this crazy backlash. Some of it's probably deserving. Some of it, I don't think it's... Do you think this is a representation of the majority or do you think this is just a loud minority?

Starting point is 00:12:59 I think it's a loud, I think it's a small, loud group and I think a lot of sane people are, I think a lot of sane people are afraid of saying anything, and I think they're getting pushed to the point where... I feel like there's a lot of stupid sheep that are jumping on board. There's a loud minority. There's a bunch of stupid, scared sheep that are just falling in order, and then there's a bunch of the majority

Starting point is 00:13:21 who just are like, I don't fucking want to get it. Well, I'm not gonna say shit, I don't want to be in politics. They're going to start to get pushed because what happens up happening is if you push hard enough, then you're going to get a reaction that's going to, people, here's a thing, you know, and this is the best time to speak the truth is exactly when you're afraid to speak the truth.

Starting point is 00:13:39 That's when you need to. And if you want to know who has power over you, think to yourself who you're afraid of when you say something that isn't bad, isn't evil, isn't violent, is just an opinion, especially if it's based in reason. If you're afraid of saying that kind of stuff, you know who you're, you know who's, who's got the problem. And it's probably not you. It's the people who are, you know, shut this person down or whatever. It's getting really, really strange. And, but I think people are getting pushed to come out the other end. Were you able to, I didn't find the dollar amount.

Starting point is 00:14:11 Doug, can you see if we can track that down? Does it, it's not disclosed at this time. It's not disclosed at this time. I don't think they, they need to, right? It's a private company. Across it? Does that mean they don't disclose it? I don't know if they, I don't think they have to.

Starting point is 00:14:23 I don't think they have to. I think if you're a public, you have to. Well, yeah, no, if you're a public, you have to. But if they have to. I don't think they have to. I think if you're public, you have to. Well, yeah, no, if you're public, you have to. But if you're private, I don't think you need to do it at all. I still think it would be found out. There's no way that big of a deal goes down and people don't know what to do. How much do you think?

Starting point is 00:14:35 What do you think? You think it's in a hundred? Dude, no. No, a hundred million. A hundred million? I mean, they're flying private jets around. It's a big brand. It's got a big, it's got a lot of weight behind it.

Starting point is 00:14:47 Yeah, I don't even have a guest, dude, because I'm not educated on any of their company at all. Like, I don't, I know. I love reading like the CrossFit's not one I read, but it's not that interesting. Well, they only post it in their own journal. Yeah, there's no other articles around them. Well, I mean, yeah, I don't know. So, where would, I can't even tell you

Starting point is 00:15:09 where most their money is made, the education, because it's not in the gyms, they get it, well, I guess they're rich, because they get affiliate money for the gyms. Well, what does that say? It's adherence, have turned CrossFit into it. Okay, it says Colt, whose brand generates some four billion in annual revenue holy shit

Starting point is 00:15:27 And well that's what the brand generates that doesn't necessarily mean so Crossfit Incorporated rakes in perhaps a hundred million, but that's 2015 So I think when they say four billion they're probably referring to how much all the gyms that I don't that don't that's not what they're They're saying CrossFit Inc. And this is in 2015, raked in 100 million. It's gotta be from 2015 to now, the probably are double.

Starting point is 00:15:53 Oh, I don't think that. I think that's close to where and we are, they were peaking. Yeah. You think they've continued to climb from 2015 to now? Worldwide, well, things, the international boxes, we're still rocking for them, so I don't know. It's interesting, I wonder. But right now, given everything that's going on,

Starting point is 00:16:13 they lost one of their biggest sponsors ever. I wonder if he just sold it, fire sale, sweetheart deal, give me this, and I'm out, and you can take it over. Yeah. It's still got some power behind it. Yeah. I mean, I, what would you, let me ask you guys a question, because we know we've talked

Starting point is 00:16:28 about, you know, many times. Yeah. What we think CrossFit did well, what they do bad, if you took over CrossFit right now, what would be some of the stuff that you would do? Would you change anything? Would you keep it as it is and try to renegotiate the contracts? I wouldn't want it. Yeah, so I'm on that brand.

Starting point is 00:16:47 I've been waiting for this moment! I'm in the home bag! Oh, sorry everybody, but it's true. Yeah, I'm not a big fan. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, my thing always, I've always liked the sport of it, right? So I think it's cool. Like, if it's on TV and I'm clicking through,

Starting point is 00:17:07 it always pulls me in for at least a few minutes to watch, like to see some of the strength feats. I mean, I think it's really fascinating to watch what some of these athletes can do. I mean, they're specimens, both the men and women are just amazing to watch with the feats that they can do. So there's definitely a market for that.

Starting point is 00:17:25 I don't think that I'll ever go away. I think it'll just become a, but more of a sport. I think I would gear it that way. The same way that we look at any other sport and the boxes really are like training centers, you know, and for people that are really serious about getting into the sport of it. And I would quit trying to market it

Starting point is 00:17:43 like a fitness modality for overall. All of that's the sport of it, and I would quit trying to market it like a fitness modality for overall, although that's the opposite of their vision. It is, and his vision was always to become the way everybody works. I would have, I wonder what would happen if CrossFit took some of their money and then opened official CrossFit gyms, so you have all these affiliates, but then they'd have their own private gyms, and then in there, do kind of what we had talked about, which is, okay, here's your general fitness crossfit programming. Here's your gym, and then we have more advanced classes for people who want to compete and

Starting point is 00:18:16 just start to build it out kind of that way. Because do they even own, does the Crossfit company even own their own boxes? Or is it all of them? You're looking at me to give you answers. I'm all about the floor is lava. company even own their own boxes or is it all of them? You're looking at me to give you answers. I don't know. I'm all about the floor is lava. Like let's just move every cross-fitter into that. Oh, what's that?

Starting point is 00:18:31 Oh, dude, I'm gonna show you the Netflix. It's like, what is that? It's kind of a funny thing. It's almost like, remember MXC, like that show where they were like going on all these obstacles is a Japanese show. It's really funny. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:18:44 The way they run through the paper. Yeah, they run through the thing, they try knock them off. Yeah, and things spin. And so it's like, it's kind of clever. I mean, my kids are really into it. And now I could see us doing as a group. Like, four people have to kind of work their way around this room to find things, to unlock obstacles, to be able to get it

Starting point is 00:19:01 across all the way to the other side. So it's like physically challenging, but also you're trying to like, you know, solve this riddle of like how to like pass this room. It's a clever concept. It's actually pretty entertaining. Dude, did you guys play that game when you were a kid? Totally.

Starting point is 00:19:15 Yeah, I love that game. Yeah, yeah. Jumping from couch to couch. Yeah, the floor is a lot. What a great, so I was surfing through Netflix yesterday and I came across it and I thought the same thing. I'd watch it with my kids. Did you kids enjoy it?

Starting point is 00:19:25 Oh, they loved it, yeah. Yeah, that's the cool part for me. It's like I could find things like they got into Ninja Warrior 2, that stopped airing these days, but like, oh, that's not airing anymore. Well, maybe the seasons are, you know, they haven't like re-up the seasons, but yeah, we were really into that for a while,

Starting point is 00:19:42 and there's this gym, and that's what got them into parkour. So I had them do in the parkour and everything at this local gymnastics gym. And man, they were like having such a great time. It's so fun, Courtney got to do it with them and everything. I was about to do it, but then COVID and all that shit. Yeah, I want a while here, see Doug's putting it on right now. So basically what they do from what I understand

Starting point is 00:20:03 is they set up a room to look like a room in the house. And then you have to jump from, you know, hang from the chandelier or jump on the couch. They totally designed them. They have a kid how you would design them. It's all water, but like they have like spouts of lava. And they make a red colored water that just like splashes you. This is what I imagined by the way when I was a kid.

Starting point is 00:20:24 Oh exactly. That's why it's done. That's actually what it's like. It's awesome, yeah. This is what I imagined by the way, when I was a kid. Oh, exactly. That's why it's done. That's actually what's done. That's why it's awesome, yes. This is exactly what I, well here, you wanna hear something crazy? I got some crazy news for you guys. That's here.

Starting point is 00:20:32 You guys all love this. Justin loves this kind of stuff. Okay. So the US Army awards a company to buy $20 million worth of ready for this pocket-sized drones. Whoa. Yeah, these are called the black hornet three personal reconnaissance systems.

Starting point is 00:20:53 These drones weigh, Are they armored? They're, I don't know, they're armored. They got a thing, a little guns on them here. Let's face to. Yeah, yeah. Like, oh no. Nerdy mind, boy. Oh, man. nerdy mind. Oh, man.

Starting point is 00:21:06 No, they're very, very light. It's just what it says, right? So it's the size of a cell phone. So it's like this big. So this is the drone. It says here that they're extremely light and nearly silent and they can fly for up to 25 minutes. So you imagine them just launching like 500 of them. Yeah, everywhere. I feel like I saw that was like a Spider-Man movie. What's gonna happen? Yeah. Actually, that was on a, I don't know, was a Mysterio or whatever,

Starting point is 00:21:33 where the villain guy was, but like he basically like had all these drones that would collectively kind of organize and then would show this kind of hologram. And so they would project the hologram and it made it look like some big, whatever monstrous thing was attacking the city. And I was like, oh man, that's kind of an interesting idea. I thought I read an article somewhere that there's a police department that's using it

Starting point is 00:21:57 for patrolling. Google that for me, Doug. I know I could have sworn I came across. Well, so in Europe, I know this in Italy, they did this. So when they had the whole country on lockdown, right? They had a huge spike in COVID and there were a lot of deaths over there that cities and were monitoring the people with drones. Yeah. And then they put speakers on the drones so you could talk.

Starting point is 00:22:17 Did you guys watch the videos of the Italian, some of these, it's like small town mayors yelling at the people. We're walking around to the... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, bro. There's yelling at the people. We're walking around to the... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, bro. There's yelling at everybody. If you get to understand the context of the culture, like they tend to yell at each other a lot, you know,

Starting point is 00:22:30 because I don't think a politician would get away with that shit here. Yeah, but the stuff they were saying was like, if you don't go back inside, I'ma kick your ass. You know, this is a fucking weird. Look, we did it in California. We did? Yeah, that's a, that's right.

Starting point is 00:22:41 Yeah, look, California police used the drones to patrol coronavirus lockdown. Yep, yep. I don't know. Yeah, look at California police used the drones to patrol coronavirus lockdown. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, we have drone wars pretty soon. We're private private citizens are gonna go up and try and Take them out or whatever. What was that black? Wasn't there a black mirror episode where drones were like they would find somebody and then they would just They'd hit someone and detonate and kid was that black mirror? Was that something else? That could have been, I think I know your talking about that. Might have been a different one. What was that, that 1980, the Orwell? Oh, 1984. If you wanna read a book that sounds like

Starting point is 00:23:14 what happened at all. Then just read that book, 1984. And you're gonna be like, oh, shit. It's all coming to fruition. Oh really? Yeah, I mean, it talks about, you know, it kind of a dystopian situation where they start tearing down statues and burning books and everybody's being monitored,

Starting point is 00:23:30 everybody's being monitored and it little by little it becomes this crazy. We're allowing all this shit because we're just enraged about other things. Are you still following what's going on with what's her face who wrote the JK Rawlings who wrote and has shed and all that. Are you following that so? Yeah, well, from what I read, so she did a whole statement. Apparently, she said something that offended the LGBTQ community. And... Forgot all the letters almost there. Yeah, there's a little more, right? I think I had the most.

Starting point is 00:23:59 No, you covered it. And she got hammered by the actors in Harry Potter. She got hammered by the public. But she think she got support from other other people. I read what she wrote. I thought it was fantastic. Yeah. I mean, I can understand what she's trying to communicate. You know, I understand what she's trying to say. It's weird. Like I said, it's a weird. It's one of those situations where you feel like, oh, what am I going to say? If I say the wrong thing, I'm going to, you know what I'm saying? weren't people weren't people burning her books

Starting point is 00:24:26 and then they were threatening Hashtag to not publish her next one that's coming out or something like that? I think the publisher was saying that they weren't gonna, oh, that's what it was. That was if I'm not mistaken. Oh, interesting. Yeah, so it's interesting. It's very, very interesting.

Starting point is 00:24:40 You know, we should probably read her what she wrote so we could better represent kind of what she said. I read it, but I know, but I forgot. Oh, yeah, you forgot after reading it. I know. Yeah. I've been reading a lot lately. You can actually find it online.

Starting point is 00:24:52 You can find what she wrote and you can kind of see for yourself and see if you agree with her standpoint. Or if you think that she was being, you know, super insensitive or whatever. Did you think so when you remember when you first read it? I thought she, I thought she communicated pretty effectively what she was trying to say. I didn't see what some people are saying necessarily. I could see how some people could maybe take offense

Starting point is 00:25:14 to what she's saying. Because what I try to do when I hear an argument as I try to empathize and try to understand where people are coming from, even if I don't agree. And you know why? It helps me not demonize the other person. Because here's what happens.

Starting point is 00:25:27 The second you demonize the other person as being evil, as being inhuman, then you will no longer listen. You don't listen. To anything that they say, because they're evil. But the reality is, most people are not. Most people are generally good. We all kind of want the same thing.

Starting point is 00:25:44 We all want what's right for our kids. We want to be safe. We want to have, and everybody has buttons. You press a button and the response happens as a result. And so it's like, okay, trying to kind of step back and see where those buttons were that got pushed and what set these things off. It's interesting to me to kind of see where all that occurs

Starting point is 00:26:05 and like what kind of language is used. It's really like... Arthur Brooks writes some really good articles about, like love your enemies. And one of the things he says is try to understand where they're coming from. Even if you don't agree, you know, rather than assuming they're crazy or evil,

Starting point is 00:26:19 where are they come, even if you disagree, where are they coming from because it'll help you communicate and understand. Otherwise, we're just gonna, oh, here's a lot like even if you disagree, where are they coming from because it'll help you communicate and understand. Otherwise, we're just gonna, oh, here's a lot like what, when you're talking to your kids, it's like you wanna find out what, what was sort of the thought process with certain things

Starting point is 00:26:36 and why they think that way and who they're talking to. And so it's all that kind of stuff. I'm applying the same principles to talking to anybody else, who has a difference of opinion. Well, let me ask you guys a question. Has this ever happened to you where you're significant other or maybe you have a friend and they do or say something and you are like deeply offended or shocked or angry but then because you have a history with them, you try to talk to them and you try to understand

Starting point is 00:27:00 and it ends up turning out that they didn't mean what you thought or from where they're coming from, you could say, okay, I can kind of, and then you're cool. Could you imagine if instead of that, you're like, that person's evil, and you never gets that point. You'll never get to the point. Not only that, but I had this conversation, our conversation might, when I talked to Connor last week, went down this rabbit hole,, I told him that if somebody does something or says something, it's not physically harming words, saying something to you and it hurts your feelings

Starting point is 00:27:32 or it makes you angry and it rages you, that has nothing to do with them. That has every, it's a reflection of yourself and that's really fucking hard for people to swallow. It's your feeling. It's my feelings. You have no control of them. So you should be able to say the most evil,

Starting point is 00:27:47 awful things to me, and I should be able to control that. And if I can't, that is a direct reflection of something going on inside of me, that I would allow your actions to affect my emotions. I'm giving my power away. And so if I ever catch myself in a moment where I'm going, you can't believe you said that or this,

Starting point is 00:28:08 like you got to pull yourself out of that. Why am I giving this person so much power? Why am I giving them so much power to allow them to change my emotional state? That's me, man. And they're allowed to have a different opinion. Right. Everybody has different opinions. And it's not like evil.

Starting point is 00:28:23 It's just like a matter of like where we're all coming from and what we're trying to understand. Like I can have an opinion, you can have an opinion. Let's talk about it and where you formed it. Well, sometimes opinions can be evil. I mean, to be clear, but I think what you're saying is generally, you know, tends to be true. It was, is, in your right, what you're saying, Adam,

Starting point is 00:28:40 is a very empowering statement. It's not a disempowering one. That's a very stoic philosophy, which is, you know, it's like, you know how they say there's power and forgiveness, like where you forgive someone. By the way, forgiving someone doesn't mean that you'll go back, like let's say you have a friend or you had a boyfriend or girlfriend

Starting point is 00:28:58 that did something to cheat it on you. It doesn't mean you agree with him. It doesn't mean you're gonna get back with them, but forgiving them means you've given up, you take back the power because actively hating them, actively being angry and, or not better than I heard you. Yeah, I know people like this.

Starting point is 00:29:13 I have people like this in my family, where they, you know, and this is part of the old school Sicilian culture. They will hold a grudge for decades. You know, I have family members that don't talk to other family members, haven't talked to them since 1983, over one thing. So frustrated, I have family members like that too. Yeah, and it's like, you're hurting yourself.

Starting point is 00:29:34 Okay, fine, you don't need to talk to them, but they're still harboring this anger and this hatred. It's like, what's that doing for you besides poisoning you? Yeah, it's cancerous. Besides doing that, yeah. And let's talk about, let's talk about this again. Let's talk about health and fitness. Hey, another study came out that shows that your gut bacteria

Starting point is 00:29:51 really can strongly influence your cravings. They're showing more and more studies that, how your, because, and this is a weird concept to understand, but you're, we've talked about this before, you have more bacteria cells in and on your body than you actually have human cells. And if you think that bacteria, just like any living thing,

Starting point is 00:30:12 is always trying to- And they're influencing you. Yes, if they're always trying to maintain their survival, bacteria might not be intelligent, but they've evolved to try to live. So let's say you have bacteria that thrive off of sugar, lots of sugar, then they have evolved to have mechanisms to influence their host to crave sugar. So your gut bacteria may actually be influencing you to eat certain things among other things.

Starting point is 00:30:40 Well, don't you believe this is connected? Remember when I shared, I think this is back when I was competing, or maybe I shared it afterwards about when I was, how I did a show where I did like no bars, no shakes, all whole foods, and then I did shows where I like integrated bars and things like that. And I always remembered like when I cut out like protein bars for a long period of time,

Starting point is 00:31:02 and then I reintroduced them, the first like couple were like, whoa, I didn't even like them. But then after about two or period of time, and then I reintroduced them. The first couple were like, I didn't even like them. But then after about two or three of them, all of a sudden I went from not liking them to, okay, they taste good, and then craving them, and then wanting two or three of them in a day. I wonder if that is similar to that.

Starting point is 00:31:18 Like that has something to do with why that happens. It's probably part of it, I would assume. Because it was weird to me to feel that way, to go, oh, I thought I love these bars, but because I'd taken them out of my diet for so long, my body got used to not having it, then I introduced them again, and I remember, I always remember getting like,

Starting point is 00:31:36 oh, this must be a bad box, or this was, this is stale or older or something. And now it's not that, it's just that, I hadn't had them in a while, it wasn't used to them. After I had two or three of them again, then I found myself craving them, wanting two, three's not that. It's just that I hadn't had them in a while. It wasn't used to them. After I had two or three of them again, then all of a sudden, I found myself craving them wanting two, three in a day. Well, if you've ever gone on a stint of eating, quote unquote, unhealthy food, you ever notice

Starting point is 00:31:54 how the more you have, the more you want, and the more you have, and the more you want to kind of self-source the feed itself? I think we've all kind of experienced that word. We start to crave more and more from... It's really weird. And you know, there are bacteria that'll influence, we know this in animals and in some creatures. Like there's a parasitic host that will infect an insect

Starting point is 00:32:14 and it'll take, almost take over its mind, make the insect crawl to the top of a tree and present itself to be eaten by a bird. Parasoppers and slugs. Yeah, so that the bird then gets the parasite. Have you seen one of the snails, where it like, basically the parasite makes its way up into its eyes

Starting point is 00:32:29 and it like starts doing all these weird signals with its eyes to get the birds to come down to eat. So nature is crazy. Yeah, there's one, there's another one that if a mouse or rodent gets infected with it, it makes the mouse or rodent be attracted to the smell of cat urine.

Starting point is 00:32:45 Yes. It's making the host get itself eaten so that it can move so that it gets closer and closer to where the cat just can murder it. Yeah, how crazy is that? Isn't that gross? I don't know if it's crazy that that happens or that we actually have the ability to figure that out.

Starting point is 00:33:01 That to me is crazy. That was a science to piece that together. That's great. It's so insane. Hey, have we talked about the wait list on butcher box? Did we mention this already, Doug? Yeah, we are. The last episode we brought, or one of the last episodes we brought it up that they, I mean, first of all, we weren't advertising for a while from them, not because they're no longer a sponsor, but just because they couldn't take any more orders. Too popular. Too much demand. Oh, yeah. So it was, they, but they are now opening up and they're no longer a sponsor, but just because they couldn't take any more orders. Too popular, too much demand. Oh yeah, so it was,

Starting point is 00:33:26 they, but they are now opening up and they're taking people off the wait list. So if you're somebody who maybe tried a month or two ago when COVID first hit, like probably everybody did, and you're interested in it, now's the time to do it. And even if you can't get it right away, get on the wait list because it is, it's become that high a demand to be able to get on there.

Starting point is 00:33:45 And it's, I tell you what, I always, there's so much more convenient to do. I cook all, did I tell you guys about, so Katrina did the ribs? Yeah, you said in the, in the, in the insta pot. Yeah, holy smoke. I ordered some because Jessica wants to do the same thing.

Starting point is 00:33:59 Yeah, she listened the episode. She was so good. And I can't believe, I mean, cooked the ribs like in 30 minutes, 30 or 45 minutes. Yeah. Wow. Have you tried the tri-tip from Butcherbox? I haven't tried the tri-tip yet.

Starting point is 00:34:11 That's my favorite. Rib eye was the one I'm usually doing. No, no, no. Tri-tips my favorite now. Sweet. And so have you guys noticed this? I've done this now several times, where, and typically it's if we eat a lot of meat,

Starting point is 00:34:23 we run out of our butcher box order, so I have to wait like a week or two before I get a new one. Have you guys noticed a difference when you eat, like because I eat a lot of meat typically. I mean, I'll eat red meat most times, most days once, sometimes twice a day, maybe even three times a day, if I'm really pushing it or whatever.

Starting point is 00:34:40 Have you noticed a difference when you eat grain fed versus grass fed in terms of how you feel? Yeah, I mean like one being a little bit more slug-ish is what you're kind of looting to. Yeah, I have felt that and like I've been felt like my energy is a bit better. Yes, because I'll do like, there'll be a week or two or let's say we ate, let's say we had family over. So we ended up going through our butcher box order. Then we'll have to go to safeway or whatever and get the normal grain fed stuff, which I love the taste of it of course,

Starting point is 00:35:07 but we get a bunch of grain fed meat. Then I'll eat that for a week or two and I'm starting to notice a pretty clear difference in my- How I feel in my gut health is- I only notice it when I go, so this is how I do it is, I try and if I'm at home cooking,

Starting point is 00:35:22 I try and always do my butcher box. I always try to do the grass fed. But when I go out to a restaurant, that's kind of like, when I say, obviously I'm not gonna be that picky where it's like, oh, I won't eat here unless it's fucking grass fed. Definitely not, I think, especially since I do enjoy green fed steak every now and then it's,

Starting point is 00:35:37 the steak is much more. There are more restaurants out there offering it, which is interesting. They do, there are more, but I'm not that picky where. And that's the way I look at it. It's like, oh, everyone's smile, I'll enjoy a nice grain-fed steak. And when I do it just intermittently like that,

Starting point is 00:35:50 it doesn't bother me. But for some reason, and this was a while back when we weren't getting the butcher box more regularly, is I would go and do what you just said, is that we get to order a bunch of safe way steaks. And I find if I have two or three meals in that, that's when I really notice it. I just feel like I'm a little lethargic.

Starting point is 00:36:05 I feel like it doesn't digest as quickly and as easily. Okay, so it's not just me then. Yeah, yeah, I notice that. I absolutely do. Really interesting. I didn't think it would have that much of an effect, but I mean, apparently it was. Do you have a favorite like flavoring or rub

Starting point is 00:36:18 or what do you call that where you put it in the juices? Yeah, marinade, marinade, thank you. I couldn't think of the word. I'm you put it in the juices? Yeah, Mariner, Mariner, Mariner, Mariner, thank you. I couldn't think of the word, I'm like, it's the juices. Yeah. You know what? You have a favorite way to run, tell them. I can tell you. Tell them to go your favorite way.

Starting point is 00:36:33 Underhand, underhand rope. Jessica does a very plain, clean, you know, she'll put a lot of salt on it, let it sit out, get to room temperature. Sometimes she'll add a little bit of powder garlic on it, but we like to, you know, you know, there's that what that Santa Maria seasoning, which is pretty good too, but sometimes I like it just. That's great on try to.

Starting point is 00:36:53 Yeah, sometimes I like plain, just salt, just salt and a good piece of meat, to me sometimes is the best. Yeah, I want you guys to try this one. It's like a coffee grounds with a garlic and salt. Anything to get more caffeine, huh, Justin? You call me. It's fantastic. It's I don't know what you've made acid or like it's triver. It just blends so well. Really? Yeah, it's so good. Trigger has a rub like that. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:37:19 So you do coffee grounds with salt and everything else? Yeah, yeah. Really? And garlic and a little bit onion. Yeah, really. Yeah, really. I'll give that a shot. See how that is. Hey, I got the stamp of approval from a teenager on our style. Oh, well, speaking weight of our style and stamp of approval. Yeah, first of all, who's, what do you tell me who it is?

Starting point is 00:37:39 Yeah, I'll hold on a second. Verify this. I've had this happen a couple times. I've had one of my younger cousins who was 17, asked me where I got my sweats from and said that she really liked them and she liked to, you know, what company is that? And then my son said the same thing and he wants Vury sweats now. So I got the stamp of a, you know, younger stamp of approval

Starting point is 00:38:00 because apparently they know what's cool. The cool kids like it. So speaking of approval and I haven't had a chance to tell you guys this. So since you brought that up, I thought you were going this direction. We reached out, I think, a month or so ago. So our marketing team has been trying to get, you know, Sal, Justin and I to dress better for quite some time. And they're always harping us about being, you know, we record our podcast.

Starting point is 00:38:24 I don't give a shit about how I'm dressed right now. Actually, you can watch on, if you're, if you're watching, you're wearing a jewelry shorts. If you're watching on YouTube right now, because we record all these podcasts, you know exactly what Adam's talking about. Yes, so, you can see right now. Yes. So anyways, we, but for all of our marketing material that goes out for Maps Fitness products,

Starting point is 00:38:40 you know, we're trying to brand that like a separate company. They're always telling us that we need to have this uniform. And I just, I, and I've been fighting them forever because they want to dress us. And I just, I don't like that. I want to dress myself. I've dressed myself my whole life. I feel like I've done a decent job. I don't, especially from people who don't have any styles.

Starting point is 00:39:00 Exactly. Especially from the worst, especially for my marketing team who I don't, I see the way they dress every day and I am not interested in them dressing me. So, so I finally cave, I said okay, here's the deal. I'm going to try and see if I can work out a deal with the Ori where they will actually brand some of their,

Starting point is 00:39:20 some of their joggers, the stuff that we already wear and we love their shirts. Put mine, pump on it. And put mine, pump on it. And that's approved, it's done. So we're gonna mine on, and put mine on, and that's approved. It's done. So we're gonna have, we should have branded apparel for ourselves.

Starting point is 00:39:29 Yes. I'm okay with that, yeah. Right. Because this is a cool brand, I mean, it's verified. 100%. So we, yeah, so we make our marketing team happy, and then we still get to continue to wear our Viori Swag, which we all like so much, and approved by teenagers, obviously.

Starting point is 00:39:46 Good job, Adam. I'm so happy we made you head of style of the company. Really done a great job for us. I appreciate it. Thank God, it was you who'd be sponsored by sketchers. Hey, I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to lead anything I'm not good at. Don't sketchers.

Starting point is 00:40:00 There are goi-o socks. Don't put me in charge of styling or organization. We'll fill feel every time. Dude, the summer sale is going off. The biggest sale of the year. We massive. We never discount like this, maybe once a year most. And so this is a massive sale for us

Starting point is 00:40:18 to discount all programs and bundles. So bundles are already massively discounted, but to discount them on top of that. So this is a huge sale. Well, we get a lot of messages from people saying that they're now in some places able to go work out in their gyms again. So people are like, oh my gosh, my gyms are open again. You know, can I, which program should I do? And little by little, these emails have been starting to pile up. So it's really, really good timing. I think for this, for this particular cell, but it is the biggest one that we in addition to that too.

Starting point is 00:40:49 I know that we all worked on what last week or the week before piecing together modifications for all the programs. I know that will be coming down the pipeline. I don't know when that'll be released. That's true. Yes. I'm glad you mentioned that. So all the programs eventually are going to have modifications free for people who only have access to normally equipped home gems.

Starting point is 00:41:09 Dumbbells are just barbells. Yeah, we got options. Dumbbells or dumbbells and barbells. You actually get two versions of a mod with each program. So let's say you enroll in a program like Maps, aesthetic, there are some machines and stuff in there because it's an advanced kind of body builder program. But we're gonna to send mods out so if you have a home gem or just dumbbells You could still follow the programming as it's written with the replacements for that

Starting point is 00:41:34 But yeah, so bundles already are discounted typically around 30% off So we've added an additional 25% off to that and then the programs individual programs are all 40% off and I think there's two codes for each right so for the programs it's summer program and then for the bundles the code is summer bundles. Today's clause brought to you by Max and Obolic. If you're looking to maximize your overall muscle and strength, Max and Obolic is the perfect place to start. With a full 30-day money back guarantee, there is absolutely zero risk.

Starting point is 00:42:15 So what are you waiting for? Go to mindpromidia.com and get started today. It's the motherfucking clause. An eagulous landage. Quee-qua. It's the motherfucking world. Eagerness landed. Quiqueau. First question is from Ninja Master 166. This guy's cool. I can tell you what a Justin's friends. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:42:33 My guy. I have heard some people say that it is bad to combine fats and carbs together because it can lead to insulin resistance and more fat gain. Is there any truth to this or is it better to just focus on eating healthy foods? So this is the opposite is true. Yeah, actually this can be very, very true. So if what you're eating is too many calories,

Starting point is 00:42:54 don't combine fats, proteins apart. Don't have anything in the whole. It's gonna be too much of it. So you know what's funny about this? I've heard people say this, that you know, don't combine this and that and the other. The only long term health practices that really communicate this are aeravetic medicine. Sometimes they'll communicate not combining certain foods.

Starting point is 00:43:16 Chinese medicine will do the same thing. Now they don't say fat gain or insulin resistance. They use their terminology, which you know, I forgot what they use in aeravetic medicine. I can't remember the names of them. There's like different forms of energy. I can't remember what they are. You know, Chinese medicine, they'll talk about Yin and Yang in the body. So I'm sure there's some truth to combinations in regards to energy levels and digestion in particular, but this is a very individual thing. This is not a general statement that those forms of medicines tend to make. Is it more like hot cold in terms of spices? I don't want to represent them because I don't know the way.

Starting point is 00:43:55 I know. But I have heard them say, and I know this because I've worked with them. Not personally, but I've worked with them with clients where a client will seek out alternative medicine. Then they'll come to me and say, oh, my practitioner said to not eat, you know, these foods are combined, these foods and, you know, these are long traditions. So I'm sure there's some truth to what they're saying. But not this. This, this I don't, I don't necessarily see.

Starting point is 00:44:18 Well, not only that, but this is the opposite. It's the opposite of this is true. If you combine a carbohydrate with a fat, you actually lower the glycemic index on the carbohydrate. Yeah, that's true. So it's like sugar less. Yes, it's like sugar less. So the opposite is true. Eating carbohydrate all by itself will actually will spike your blood sugar level faster than if you actually pair it with a

Starting point is 00:44:39 fat or a protein. So that's like, and I remember playing with this like when we when I was trying to like time like a pump or time like the way I looked on stage, you know, if I just had like a car by itself, I would fill up really quick, but then I would flatten back out really, really quick also. And by me actually eating it or parent, Maro, I told you guys like I piece together like the chicken, the avocado rice was like this. And if I pulled the avocado out of it, as crazy as it changed the way I would look on stage. Your muscles would look less full. Yeah, what they would do is it would, they would get filled up,

Starting point is 00:45:13 but then they would deflate really quick. Interesting. Where when I would add a fat into the meal, it would actually fill up slower, but they would maintain that for a little bit longer and then come back down. So it made it easier for me to time a look on stage. Now, for me, that's what that's for.

Starting point is 00:45:26 It had nothing to do with me gaining body fat or not. But I would manipulate adding fats with carbohydrates to slow down the digestive process so it would fill me in at a slower rate instead of really fast and then leave really fast. Yeah, on the list of priorities, this is splitting hair. Yeah, this is like somewhere near number 2000,

Starting point is 00:45:46 I would say, I wouldn't worry so much about this. You know we should pay attention to. What, nine, seven, seven. Yeah, you should pay attention to combining foods and your digestion. Now I've heard this from people where they'll say, if I combine these kinds of foods, I start to get digestive issues.

Starting point is 00:46:00 You should pay attention to that, but that's very individual. That's typically nothing general that you can apply. Yeah, That's more like you combining two foods that you might be slightly intolerant to. Right. And now you've got a bigger and now you've got a bigger out which one it was. Yeah, do your homework. So I notice this with like if I go have like a cheeseburger, I noticed that the combination of the cheese and the gluten together is like the perfect storm for me to be bloated and digestive issues afterwards. If I get rid of the bun and I have just like a burger

Starting point is 00:46:30 and cheese, I'm okay. If I just have a hamburger, I'm not as bad. So it's the combination of me doing the gluten and the dairy in one meal that just hammered and then you throw in some fries to a bunch of carbs and extra calories. It's just like the perfect storm for me to feel absolutely bloated and terrible afterwards.

Starting point is 00:46:48 So, but that's individual, that's me, right? I know that my body is affected that way by those foods and my body seems to handle them by themselves in smaller doses. I had it last night, I was, by the way, I had the new bowl of peanut butter magic spoon, I know it's not commercial for today, but by the way, that was phenomenal. And I had it with whole milk and butter magic spoon. I know it's not commercial for today, but by the way, that was phenomenal.

Starting point is 00:47:05 And I had it with whole milk, and I normally don't do that, but just whole milk by itself doesn't really bother me that much. But if I have whole milk and then I also have cheese later on, and then I have ice cream or something, it's like, then it's just too much. So why were blasting this earlier and before the podcast? Oh yeah, what color you add on that?

Starting point is 00:47:21 You're doing some trumpet music. You're doing trumpet music, I think. Look, don't do that. Katrina still doesn't think that. Here that Katrina, he farts all the time. I think he saves it for us, because he won't far away. We'll start videoing it.

Starting point is 00:47:32 There's two main things you could do to prevent insulin resistance. The two biggest things you can do are not overeat. And then here's the second one, build muscle. Muscle is incredibly protective in this particular case because muscle helps soak up and absorb glycogen and helps control blood sugar. People with more muscle are far less likely to have insulin resistance than people with less muscle. So those two things are the things you should focus on and not really food combinations. Next question is from M perks.

Starting point is 00:48:06 Are trigger sessions useful during a cut? Oh, trigger sessions are useful. Just okay. Almost anything. You should lift weights and try to build muscle while you're cutting or when you're bulking. Now why? Okay, obviously for bulking,

Starting point is 00:48:20 you wanna try and build muscle because that's part of the goal. But why should you try to build muscle when you're trying to cut? Muscle preservation. Yes, because cutting typically results in or can result in the body reducing muscle to try to slow its own metabolism down. This is one of the biggest pitfalls to dieting or cutting is you end up with a slower metabolism

Starting point is 00:48:39 than you went in with and now maintaining it is so difficult. So real quick trigger sessions, just for people who don't know what those are. A trigger session is a very light, low intensity, short, 10 minute session where you're pumping the muscle, maybe two or three times a day. On days, you're not doing a normal workout. These are on off days. By themselves, they don't really build a ton of muscle, but when you add them to your normal workouts,

Starting point is 00:49:06 it's like a little bit of a turbocharger. So, yeah, during a cut, oh my gosh, trigger sessions are extremely important. I actually found them more, even more beneficial during this time. So, when I was getting ready for shows, that's the most I ever was doing trigger sessions when I was competing. Like, I was constantly doing that.

Starting point is 00:49:22 And I felt that that was one of the game changers for me to be holding on to as much. That's one of the hardest things, one of the hardest things to do is to cut, reduce your calories, increase movement, add cardio, and then also think you're gonna hang on to all that muscle that you've worked so hard to build. And obviously when you're at the competitive level,

Starting point is 00:49:42 it's very important that you maintain that. Otherwise, why are you putting all this work in to build that muscle in the off season? So I really felt that that contributed. And I had shows where I didn't, I had shows I did. And I felt when I was really consistent with it, I held on to the most muscle when I was cutting. And it's really hard to do that.

Starting point is 00:49:59 It's really hard to keep your muscle. One of the best things you do is constantly be sending a signal that your body needs it. And that's what the trigger session is. Without all the extra damage, right, you're just sending that signal, hey, we need this, we need this to stay around, and we're using it a lot, we're using it a lot, that's kind of what you're doing, just a low-level version of it. Yeah, it's almost therapeutic, too, in its own right, like, in terms of, like, feeling,

Starting point is 00:50:21 like, I'm recovering, as well. So, like, I tend to focus on it a lot more if I'm in a cut just mainly because it's something that I'm trying to maintain this momentum and this energy of adding extra movement and extra calorie expenditure. So that's something that I'm paying attention to my fit bit, my step count, all that stuff,

Starting point is 00:50:43 but I'm also just trying to make sure my muscles are getting that stimulus throughout this whole thing. So I don't lose my muscle. That's another thing that I really loved about it was, when I'm in a cut, I'm low calorie for long periods of time and I get tired. I don't want to do anything. It's an energizer.

Starting point is 00:50:58 It is a great energizer. I mean, that was one of the things that I really also enjoyed. Just to add a benefit that I wasn't thinking about when I started doing corporate, is I'd be tired from a day already, and I've been, I sat down on the couch for a while, and I don't really wanna move, and I'm like, oh, I'm supposed to do a trigger session,

Starting point is 00:51:15 you know, some time in the next hour or two, and I'd just pop up, and that was back when I used to just keep it on my door, my closet door, near my living room, and I'd hop up, just do a little 10, 10, 12 minute trigger session, and also, and I hop up, just do a little 10, 12 minute trigger session, and also, and I'd be re-energized, I'd be now motivated to move around, go for a walk, or do something, because I got up and did that. That just adds to your cut, you're burning more calories, you're moving more, active recovery

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Starting point is 00:52:29 code next question is from jj boogie 64 in what ways have you or do you so liminally mold your children that means I don't hypnotize it no I don't have for a bit because I totally do this yeah so I mean like I've been telling I think I've shared it on the podcast already like the whole basketball thing I just it's always on in the background. Yeah, yeah, and so I think that's what it means by subliminal I'm not like forcing my son to watch it. It's just playing in the background How do you throw it? Let's try to throw away the garbage. I did that with Star Wars and with music all the time like Like I had mentioned this I found those those like nursery kind of like chimes of ACDC, Metallica, the Lola buys.

Starting point is 00:53:09 Yeah, the Lola buys it. And like, and that sort of groomed them into then, I started to buy them CDs of like all these like rock bands that are just like staples, you have to, you know, have this in your collection of like Led Zeppelin's and like all these bands. So yeah, I do that all the time. That's so funny. So this reminds me of a video, a couple few videos I've seen

Starting point is 00:53:29 of something similar where there's like a little baby that won't eat. So the mom or dad is like trying to give their kid like mashed vegetables or something, the kids are like, now. So then they take a stuffy or a doll and they like slap the doll a bunch of times and they pretend to feed the doll.

Starting point is 00:53:44 The doll says no, then they beat the doll. Then they go give the food to the kid and the kid eats the... I'll say, oh my God. That's like an interrogation. Yeah, that's good. It's so because they'll do it to the doll. The doll goes, no, just like the kid did it and they'll hit the doll. They set the doll on fire.

Starting point is 00:53:59 Yeah. They give the food to the kid and the kid eats it all. I eat the broccoli. Oh my God. When I think of this, in terms of subliminal, I think of just my own actions. Especially when I'm around my kids, I try to be aware of how I treat my wife in front of them.

Starting point is 00:54:16 I try to be aware of how I react. If I'm angry, if I'm happy, if we're driving, and let's say we drive by a homeless encampment, I try to be aware of what I'm gonna say, because I want empathetic loving, I want my kids to grow up to be good people. So, okay, what am I gonna say as we drive by this to show them that this is how you should

Starting point is 00:54:43 be around these kinds of things? And so that's what I try to think of. I know one time I lost my temper. I'm just one when my kids were young and this is that story when the kid threw the basketball at my car while I was driving by. And I got so mad and I pulled back, I turned around the kid, the kid and his friends ran inside the house and I pulled their basketball hoop down and threw it or whatever. And then I remember as I was leaving my son had a conversation with him, he was real young

Starting point is 00:55:07 and he's like, why did you do that? That was worse. I remember thinking to myself, what a bad example. I just gave my kids of how you should act in a situation like that. I think that's the most important thing. There's even more subtle, I do things like, so right now, Katrina and I, we made a pack before we even had max, like the things that we wanted to be careful of our own behaviors And the phone was a big thing for me because that's that's a newer thing right like I didn't have that 20 years ago Where I'd be on a cell phone all the time where I'm literally on a cell phone all the time and it is It's a it's a real temptation for me to want to grab it for a lot of reasons and it's very easy for me to want to grab it. For a lot of reason, and it's very easy for me to justify.

Starting point is 00:55:46 I'm, you know, we're in the middle of building a business that we all love and are passionate about it and we enjoy. And like, so yeah, I always want to check emails and respond back to people and to do those things because I do, I really enjoy it. And it's also benefiting the company building, right? So it's really tough for me to shut that down,

Starting point is 00:56:05 but I have to make a point to do that because I do not want my son to get used to seeing his father staring at his screen because that becomes normal. That's a tough one, man. It is a tough one, but Katrina and I both have made such a great pack about it that if either partner does it,

Starting point is 00:56:22 we always like little subtle comment, you know? Like, oh, Daddy's on his phone after five right now. And then like right away, like if I get, like phone, I drop it, like it's hot lava, you know, right away, because I'm like, that's something that's important to me. And I do the same thing to her, you know, she's get stuff where she's communicating maybe

Starting point is 00:56:39 with family about some weekend thing we're about to do. And, but if we're engaging with him and he's sitting in front of us, that's like for us, that's like a big no-no. And I know we're not 100% perfect and we won't ever, but the fact that I think that we're conscious of it, we're making an effort, I hope, makes a difference for when that becomes something that he's interested in, that he doesn't connect like,

Starting point is 00:56:59 oh, mommy and daddy are always on their phones. That's the challenge of now. When we were kids, it was processed foods, which now we're seeing the ramifications. The challenge of now is electronics, and I see a clear difference in my kids when I monitor it versus when I don't. They're totally different people.

Starting point is 00:57:15 So I think that's a good thing. I've tried to address this by starting to really model of being outside more and doing things and building things and being active and climbing and walking and hiking, all that kind of stuff. And just making that opportunity there and available so that they're just in that environment more than I am in the house and then there's nothing but electronics. Just because it is so hard, it's so hard to address that when everybody's sitting sitting down.

Starting point is 00:57:45 You just get like drawn to it and you wanna know, well, somebody, like I'm important, I got emails, I got things and then they were like, well, we're important, we got our friends that wanna talk to us online, dad. You know, I'm like, yeah, you're right, like, what am I doing? So, yesterday I took the kids and I got home and I said,

Starting point is 00:58:01 hey, we're gonna go to the park and I got a bunch of pushback. Well, we don't wanna go to the park, it's so different from when we were kids. I know, right, said, hey, we're gonna go to the park and I got a bunch of pushback. Well, we don't wanna go to the park and so different from when we were kids. I know, right, yeah, yeah, yeah. And my daughter, I don't wanna go, it's hot. I don't wanna do this. I don't wanna do it. And so at first I feel like a jerk for forcing them

Starting point is 00:58:15 and I also feel resentful, like fine, I'm not gonna do anything with you. It's not, you know what, I'm gonna do it. They're gonna come with me whether they like it or not. So I took them and it took a good, no joke, 15 to 30 minutes before them to even loosen up. It's like decompressing. And then we had fun.

Starting point is 00:58:28 Yeah, always taking my kids. 15 to 30, first they complain, they don't want to do it, but of about 15 to 30 minutes later, we're throwing the frisbee. We got to go, we got to go. Yeah, so. Next question is from D Bear 27.

Starting point is 00:58:38 What's the biggest lesson you guys learned from your father? So that's a good one. Another father question. You know, I was with my dad, my parents actually ate over last night. And I always, I consciously try to do this in front of my kids. But I asked my father about what it was like when he grew up because I think context is really important.

Starting point is 00:59:00 And I've said this to Jessica. I said, I think the children of immigrants have an advantage sometimes because they have the advantage of context, which I had. I had the advantage of context because my father, he was very in comparison to me, very poor, far less opportunities, left school at the age of nine because his family literally needed a nine-year-old to work in order to provide money for the family. And so I have them tell these stories to provide that context for my kids

Starting point is 00:59:35 so that my kids can realize what they have in front of them and what they can do with what they have in front rather than taking things for granted. So my dad taught me a lot of lessons. He was always there for his family. So we had dinner together every single night. He worked his butt off, never complained. My dad must have worked seven days a week for years or decades.

Starting point is 00:59:57 Seven days a week, but he came home four or five o'clock. And we would all have dinner together. We also planned trips, even when, you know, he was supporting a family of six in the Bay Area. He was able to provide us with a middle class, you know, lifestyle, but we couldn't afford expensive vacations. So we do inexpensive things. We'd go camping or we'd go, you know,

Starting point is 01:00:22 somewhere nearby that we could drive to. But I never noticed that it was, I always saw that it was a good time and he was super involved. But the biggest lesson I learned from my dad was that lesson of context. That he, I understood what I had because I knew what it was like for him growing up

Starting point is 01:00:43 and I saw his attitude about things. I saw that he always took personal responsibility. He never complained about working hard. He always did it. He always, you know, was, his family was very important to him. He talked about what it was like growing up when he grew up in Sicily. And so that context, I think, has kept me grounded, because it's really easy to take things for granted when you have a lot of stuff around you. It's really easy for you to start to expect things to happen. So I think that's one of the better lessons that I got.

Starting point is 01:01:14 Yeah, I think, I mean, the main thing that I can think of immediately is just the integrity of my father and how it's just impenetrable. He strongly has beliefs and moral values that are super consistent and is willing to still be friends and have conversations with people that completely don't abide by these standards he has for himself and his family, but stays very consistent to his belief system. And I mean, that was a big thing for me to just because I tested it all the time as a kid and I was trying to poke holes in it and he'd never varied from it.

Starting point is 01:01:59 And I mean, I, I was that kid that was always trying to push the limits of, well, I don't agree with you. I can have tattoos, you know, I'm not going to hell or whatever it was at the time that I found, you know, I had issues with because I was that kid that was searching like, well, why do you believe this? Why do you think that way? And it was just always very thoughtful in his response and very consistent with his belief system. And so to this day, like that's, I tried my best

Starting point is 01:02:35 to be like that. And to treat people the way he's treated people to where he stays calm, even in the midst of these arguments and you know, a lot of two, I was shielded a lot from a lot of really like, like we were poor in certain instances that like, I didn't realize we were poor, you know, like we have only stories of like being down and out and like you said, like going camping, like, there was always things we were doing, but they were on a very low budget, but I didn't know our financial situation. I didn't know the turmoil amidst the family that was really negative at the time.

Starting point is 01:03:14 Like it was just, it wasn't something I needed to dwell on as a kid. And he didn't bring that, that wasn't even a discussion. So I finally things outwe way later as an adult, why like all these things were happening. And so anyway, that's just some things that I reflect on that I was very thankful that, you know, he handled it the way he did.

Starting point is 01:03:38 But did you have a horse? But I didn't have a horse. He didn't have a horse. I didn't have a horse. I, uh, yeah, I wish I had a horse. I didn't have a horse. I, uh, yeah, I wish I had a horse. I didn't have to have been money. Overrated, dude. Ditters are way cooler. Did it look just gallopedini words?

Starting point is 01:03:54 I'm a trustee. I'm a trustee's way cooler. Could have said it's me, you know. By the bay. So, um, well, I guess what I learned from mine is to be there. So my dad took his life when I was seven years old, so it wasn't obviously around. And that's also why I waited so long to have maximus

Starting point is 01:04:13 is because I also, because of how we grew up, I was extremely motivated to have things, to have success, financial success, and to have security there and be able to provide for my family, and not have to worry about that. And I was really nervous in my 20s, if I were to ever consider having a kid that young that I hadn't reached that point.

Starting point is 01:04:35 And I had already learned at a pretty young age, what it was going to take to make really good money. Like anybody that I had talked to that had mentored me, or that was very successful literally dedicated a lot of of most of their life to trying to become financial successful. I mean, just the amount of work that it took. And so I had this really, you know, crazy challenge or, or, you know, thing that I wrestled with in my brain is, okay, yeah, I do believe I wanna have a son one day, and I do wanna make sure that I'm every bit there for him because I didn't have a father figure really in my life.

Starting point is 01:05:13 And so I wanna experience all that, and I definitely don't want to have a kid during the time. But then I had this other thing where I was like, man, I really, really wanna be successful, and I know that it takes long hours and sacrifice and constantly being buried into whatever this career is. And so I wrestled with that for a very long time and I feel very blessed that have found what we have found now

Starting point is 01:05:36 and built what we've built because it has created this ability for me to not miss out on anything that Max is going through. And I'm very cognizant of every milestone and every moment that I can be a part of because I know I didn't get that. So, you know, it's a sad lesson because I didn't have it, but I'm also grateful for that because it's on the top of mind for me all the time.

Starting point is 01:06:03 It's not like, you know, I know that some, I'm sure there's a lot of fathers out there that, you know, look at providing for their kids. It's like, hey, I'm being a great dad. I'm providing. And I think that you are a great dad if you're providing for your family. But I also think there's another part that is really, really important on how you mold and raise, raise your kid and being a part of their family. And I feel blessed that I'm now in a position where I can do both, but I'm constantly thinking about all the things that I didn't get to do, all the things that I didn't have or missed out on by not having a father figure and that I don't ever, I feel like I have an opportunity

Starting point is 01:06:38 to relive all that what I missed through my son. And so I feel like I'm not gonna miss out on that because I'm very aware that I didn't get it. So I'm very determined to make sure that I'm a part of all of it. Cool, very cool. Look, MindPump is recorded on video as well as audio. You can check us out on YouTube.

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