Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1326: How High & Low Rep Sets Affect Muscle Growth, the Optimal Number of Times to Work Out a Body Part Each Week, the Benefits & Detriments of Raw Vs. Cooked Vegetables & More

Episode Date: July 1, 2020

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about how many times a week to exercise each body part, the differing results between low and high rep sets, the benefits & detriments of raw vs. cooked vegetables, and whether you lose it if you don’t use it. Mind Pump’s first jobs. (5:50) Sal is a control freak. (12:53) Organ meats, the forgotten muscle building supplement. (13:57 The growing movement of ‘Live water’. (20:55) Gap x Kayne West. (24:07) Lebron James starting his own media company, creating a market for both sides & MORE. (27:23) Opening up gyms does not contribute to increased symptoms of COVID-19, study. (33:25) The direct to consumer business is booming! (41:15) Reviewing Magic Spoon’s newest flavors. (44:01) #Quah question #1 - How many times a week do you need to exercise each body part? Is once a week ok, or do you need to hit each body part twice or more a week to really see results? (47:50) #Quah question #2 – Can you elaborate on the differing results between low and high rep sets? (55:29) #Quah question #3 – What is better, raw vs. cooked vegetables? What are the benefits and detriments of both? (1:01:56) #Quah question #4 – Is it true if you don’t use it, you lose it? (1:06:15) Related Links/Products Mentioned June Promotion: MAPS HIIT ½ off! **Promo code “HIIT50” at checkout** Visit Paleo Valley for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code “Mindpump15” at checkout for 15% discount** What to know about the “raw water” trend Gap (GPS) Signs Kayne West to Boost Brand Image, Stock Up LeBron James' SpringHill gets $100M backing, names Serena Williams, Red Sox chairman to board The Flip Side Groundbreaking research indicates gyms pose no additional risk of catching COVID-19 Mind Pump #1280: COVID-19 – The Death Of The Gym Industry? Microsoft To Close All Retail Stores Permanently Visit Magic Spoon for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Stop Working Out And Start Practicing – Mind Pump Blog Mind Pump Podcast - YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this episode of Mind Pumped the World's Top Fitness Health and Entertainment Podcast, we answer fitness and health questions asked by listeners just like you. Just like you. Now the way we open the episode is we, you know, talk about current events, have a lot of fun.

We mentioned our sponsors. That's the first 44 minutes of this episode. It's the intro portion. After that is when we answer the fitness questions. So let me give you the breakdown of what happened in today's Mind Pump episode. We started by talking about our first jobs. These are the jobs we did when we were 15 years old.

Way back in the day, Justin apparently got money like it was 1952, I guess he got Jeff, whatever. It was old timey. Then we talk about organ meats, the value of organ meats for strength, muscle, and health, and why organ meats are disgusting. They don't taste very good. So one of the things you can do is supplement

with organ complex supplements. These are freeze dried, grass fed capsules that contain heart, kidney and liver. And the best company that we found that produces this is Paleo Valley. So you can actually go on Paleo Valley's website, use the code MindPump15, get 15% off your first order of organ complex. Here's the website, it's paleovali.com forward slash mind pump. Again, the code is mind pump and then the number 15. Then Justin talked about live water.

This is water that hasn't been cleaned. Sounds like a PR. It really did water. Yeah, sounds like good PR for dirty water. Then we talked about the gap working with Kanye West, LeBron James and his new media company. We talked about COVID and being spread in gyms or should I say being lack of being spread in gym. New study shows that gyms are not posing a risk. So open them up already. Gyms are essential. What's wrong with everybody? Then we talked about the new flavor of magic

spoon cereal. This cereal is high in protein. It's got way protein in it. It's like a supplement for your muscles, but it tastes like kid cereal. It's delicious. They have fruit flavor. They have, I think they have birthday cake flavor, blueberry, and new peanut butter,

which Adam and Justin are fighting over. Place your bats, let's see who wins. They need it. That fight. But anyway, because you're a Mind Pump Listener, you get a discount. Here's how you get the Mind Pump Discount. Go to magicspoon.com, forward slash,

use the code, Mind Pump, get a discount on high protein, no sugar, cereal. Then we answer the fitness questions. Here's the first one. This person says, how many times a week should you exercise each body part? So there's an argument in the fitness space that some people need to do once a week. Other people say two or three days a week. Adam says 37. What's the right answer? The next question, this person says, what's the difference between low and high reps

in terms of results? The third question, what's better raw or cooked vegetables? So we answer that one. Lots of it. And then the final question, that was creepy. Is it true that if you don't use it, you lose it. So we answer that one. Also, everybody check this out. It's the final hours.

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If you want the discount off of the bundles, which is 25% off, use the code summer bundle Pause the podcast right now. Go get your program on discount. Come back, listen to us. You'll love them Teacher time and it's teacher time. Oh shit, so you know it's my favorite time of the week We have two winners for Apple Podcasts, one winner for Facebook. Scared the shit, I mean. Yeah. The Apple Podcast winners are fit,

trucker lady, and fluff the original. And for Facebook, we have Ken Osborne. All of your winners send the name I just read to iTunes at minepumpmedia.com include your shirt size and your shipping address and we'll get that shirt right out to you. So what were you telling me Sal about what putting your kids up for adoption you were considering that? Yeah.

I got my boy in here right now recording that video. That's like what? You don't want to discuss it? He put it on all of a sudden sudden put you on the spot a little bit. I mean he's he's old enough I thought you were gonna cut him in on it, right? You thought he that was part of the deal. That's next week next week Oh, he's having discussed that I don't think you get very tax strategies. I think once they get into high school You don't get very much money for him. Yeah, yeah, I think the sweet spots where mine's that that's where you have to go like right now No, no, yeah, that's how it's so fun having my kid in here right now.

Recording the video for us. You know what I mean? That's a good time. The best part about it is it's free. Yeah. Yeah. It's a free labor. Does it cost us any money at all?

We're gonna get this super high education then we're just gonna stick them behind some computer working for us one day. That's until he works off his education. Yeah, that's it. It's sad. It's good. works off his education. That's it. It's sad. It's good. $5 an hour.

At a time. Do you guys remember last night we were talking about our first job. Oh yeah, yeah. That was fun. Oh yeah. That was good. What was your first job again, Justin? Well, I was walking little weener dogs.

That was my very first job. I was like, we're like, something with weener. Yeah, weener, weener I'm in. Yeah. So yeah, I got paid like Weeners, I'm in. Yeah. So yeah, I got paid like 50 cents every time I'd walk them and then I just collected, I ended up getting 500 bucks in 50 cent pieces. Oh, actual 50 cent pieces?

Yeah. Who has that? That's how often I did it. This lady, she would go get them from, I don't know, from the banks, you're just like, you know. Do you save them all? Yeah, I saved them all and then I put them in the bank and then I'm sure I spent it. Oh wow, like an asshole.

Wow, I feel like you walked dogs back in 1953. It's a really old lady. You know, I was like, I was happy just to walk it for it, but you gave me 50 cents and a worth, there's original. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. My first job, aside from working with my dad as a kid was I washed dishes and I got paid

$4. I think it was $4.25 an hour. Yeah, you won on that bet. But he paid us, you know what I mean? It was a tie and restaurant. Oh, so you didn't have taxes out? Well, I guess so mine was was worse than so I was 450 with taxes taken out. And you had to be on the payroll. Wow. Yeah, I was like, it was officially on the payroll.

What is it? What's the statute of limitations on that, Doug? I think maybe seven years. Okay. I'm saying. You should. I got to train collector three dollars of taxes. Yeah, dude, I washed dishes and you know, it's funny in my first job. and I just wanted to be, no joke, I wanted to be the best dishwasher in the restaurant. It's like super fast. Here's what I wanna know. Have you guys ever worked in restaurants? You did, right?

Justin, why don't they have those dishwashers in your house? It would make life awesome. Dude, it's so fast. It's a minute, and you could put a pizza in there to clean the whole thing. Yeah, but I imagine those things are like $20,000 or more. They are. Yeah, they're expensive.

Yeah, because they have the two doors and I would slap the dishes on. And I just run these trays through. Yeah, you push it in, you slam them, hit the button and it's boom. And then it comes out 30 seconds. I think you're onto something though. That might be worth a purchase. Why not, dude? And I figured out the, because my job was to spray the dishes down before putting them on the racks, pushing them in.

Then when they come out, huh? Shhh, then when they come out, I put the dishes away or whatever, that was my job. But I started to figure out just how dirty I could leave the dishes and they could clean. And you pretty much didn't have to do anything. That's how powerful it was. They'd have like a slice of cake on there, throw it in.

It'd come out clean. It'd made you fast. I feel like everybody has to do a restaurant job. I feel like that should be a qualification. I actually agree with that. Yeah. Or some sort of a service job, right? People are such assholes to these poor people.

They are. And you have to learn how to deal with people. You actually have to learn sales skills because it's communication skills. Yeah. 100% agree. Oh, man. There were just so many times I was like, have to learn how to deal with people. You actually have to learn sales skills because it's communication skills. Yeah, I, 100% agree. Oh man, there were just so many times I was like, I had to just, you know, deal with people yelling

and, and, you know, people coming in with a bad attitude and then you just have to figure out how to kind of turn it around and still make money off of them. So I used to use those as like the examples of like, I'm gonna try and sell them every single thing on this menu. Dude, did I ever tell you guys,

I don't know even if I told you guys this, I caught one try and sell them every single thing on this menu. Did I ever tell you guys, I don't know even if I told you guys this, I caught one of the chefs cheating on his wife, I just remembered this. Yeah, so I was washing dishes and next to me on my right was the dish rack, because this is where I put the clean dishes. So you couldn't see most of my body, unless you looked through between the counter

and the rack, you'd see me. But if you were, if you you just glass you couldn't tell I was there especially if the dishwasher is on noise or whatever Can see anything so I'm doing my thing Dishwash was on and I hear giggling. Oh my god So I go around the corner and I look and there's the head pizza guy But I don't you call a pizza master. And he's making it. You toss him, they're awesome. He's making out with one of the waitresses. No joke, and I felt so weird about it. And so I start, I coughed.

I do one of those like, you know, when someone walks in the bathroom, before they try to open the door, you do that. Dude, it's one of those kind of industries. It's a fast lifestyle. Like, I caught the general manager doing blow in the bathroom. Oh my gosh, are you kidding me?

No, I'm not older, we are here in a way. How old are you in that room? I was a kid, you know, 15. I was a freshman in college. Yeah, so I was a 15 year old and I saw this dude that I thought was a good guy, met his family, everything, saw him making up with the way I felt terrible.

I actually contemplated writing a letter to them. I told you this story, my first, like the job that I'm talking about that I got talking about that, I got paid 450, right? That I started at, I ended up getting my buddy in high school the job like a year later. So I started there when I was 15, 15 or 16, worked there all the way till I was 19,

and I got him a job a year later, and a year after he had been there, so I'd been there working there two years, he'd been there a year, and it was a small family farm. He was having an affair with the wife. He was 17, she was 30. She was 30 something. Man, he was having an affair with her.

So here's my, and it was a good friend of mine, and I was close to the family. I was like, such an awful situation to be in as a kid. It's like a good, good buddy of mine, and then I got in the job. And you probably felt like, and then I was already, and I got in the job. And you probably felt like, what do I do? What do I do? Yeah, what do I do in that situation?

I mean, I, I'm like, nothing. Yeah, I'm dead. Exactly. That's pretty much what I did. You know what, it's sad to say, but in some of those cases, because I actually, in my situation, I thought, because I knew his wife and kids,

and again, I'm a kid, you know, so I'm like, this is terrible. I want to tell his wife, do I write an anonymous letter? And then I don't remember who I told. I think I told, I want to say I told my mom, it might have been my mom, and she said, you're gonna say something to the wife, he's gonna deny it, and they're gonna both hate you

because she's not gonna believe you. He's gonna deny the whole thing. It won't work out. She's like, you gotta be very careful when you do this kind of stuff. You know? Oh man, that's crazy. So that was your first job was at the...

Well, my first job was, I mean, like, officially was mowing lawns, right? So I started and that was like, That was your own business. Yeah, that's great. Yeah, so we did that first. What was it called again? A and J lawn mowing service.

And the Thott the Thief. Adam and who, Justin? Jason. Jason. And the theory behind that was, Never Back When It Was the A's in front. Yeah, yeah. Exactly.

Well, for phone book reasons, yeah. So, G and A's in yellow pages. It doesn't really work the other way around. Right, you remember that? That's like why all these companies are like A, A, A. It's like, yeah. So you're first in the yellow pages? Oh, I don't remember that.

Yeah, that's why you see so many companies that have been around for 20, 30 years. If they've been around for a long time, they all have these like A something, or triple A or double A at the start. It's so they rank first in the yellow pages. Oh man, that's back. I wonder if that worked for, yeah,

because I remember getting picked all the time in classes because my name like from the substitute. Yeah, but like I wonder about that in search, you know, terms back in the day when I was doing my name personal training if that helps. I'm just a little bit. The two first name club. Yeah.

Yeah, just a mean all the rest of people in the South. Dude, I'm gonna tell you guys something right now. I'm just getting this to just, you know, I'm an event a little bit. Today's the last day I try to work out with you guys. Sorry, I'm gonna have to break up with you guys. Oh, in terms of working out. You are just a bunch of slackers. I tell you what. I knew if I waited for you guys,

it wouldn't happen. Dude, you still have these childhood insecurities around your world. No, we do. No, we're gonna happen. We'll get our sin. I don't know. It won't.

Yeah, I won't. Why do you say that? Why do you say that? I don't know why. I don't know why. We will. I get mad, dude. You obviously have this, this, this is this, is a control freak about this.

And you have your, you build your whole day or around your workout. Yeah. No, I just have to get it out of the way. Cause then I feel like I'm waiting around. What's going on guys? We're waiting around for everything all day today. Yeah.

Like all these things randomly just, you know, coming in. Yeah. This is vacation week. And it's flexibility. Yeah. Yeah. Seven a.m. I'm out here doing my thing. All right.

You should definitely do that, not way for it. You're not gonna get me to train before noon while we're up here. That's the shit. No, not try to do it. I will, I will. Anyway, dude, you know, I always love going back and reading about the ways that, you know, people built,

muscle and strength in the past, because I think there's so much wisdom, and I talk about this on the show all the time. I think there's a lot of hidden and just forgotten wisdom that you get from those old-time lifters. And one thing that always pops up, that was just super popular amongst all these guys

was that their consumption of organ meats. They all, this was a big deal. In fact, the very first, very popular, like widespread use of supplements in the Musclebuilding world were desiccated liver tablets. I don't know if I've talked about this before. They would take, I know Arnold, when he first started, he would take something like 20 or 30 a day. I know Vince Garanda recommended it.

And before that, and they would notice gains from it. I've gone through stints of eating organ meats myself, and I notice it's just, they're extremely nutrient dense. It's the most nutrient dense thing. How big were those pills, weren't they like horse pills? They were big. Basically what it was, it was typically cow liver, and they would freeze dry and turn it into tablets and then they would supplement

with or your best bet is to buy organ meats and cook them and eat them yourselves. Have you guys tried that? Have you guys tried eating what? I've never done it consistently. Being on it, like I've introduced it and intermittently had them because I know the value of it, but I've never been good enough to where I'm like, hey, you know what, I'm gonna either one supplement with it for a consistent period of time or make sure that's into my diet to really measure and say like what a game changer. I feel like you've probably done that. Well, so here's, so there was a hot dogs of that counts.

Yeah, well that's everything. Okay. Well, actually that reminds me of something. They, one, there was this, I can't remember the term that they use, it'll come to me, but the way that they would take, they would supplement with organs, they believe that if you ate the organ, it affected the corresponding organ in your body, it would benefit it. For example, if you wanted to strengthen your heart, you would eat animal heart, right?

And this is, this by the way, this is very fascinating. This is a common belief among all old cultures. Yeah. You go back to like Native Americans, they would say the same thing, Chinese medicine, they would say this, even in Europe, they would say this. So if you're, if you had a weak liver, you would eat liver from an animal or kidney, you would keep kidney from it. Is that how they all originated? This, no, like, why is Rocky Mountain oysters? Where did they come from? Cowballs. Oh, oh, oh, oh, and that too. Help you more a viral, right?

Is that how it was at the order that was? Yeah, so, so idea. I don't know about that specifically, but I know in Chinese medicine, eating, you know, bull testicle or whatever, supposed to help with virility or libido. So they would always, they do this thing. And you can see the rationale, right?

You think, okay, heart for heart, kidney for kidney? But here's the weird thing. This is what's weird about it. I'll use heart, for example. There's a nutrient that your heart uses quite a bit of. In fact, if this particular nutrient is depleted, you see a rise in heart issues. So it's called coq10, coenzyme, Q10. It's essential for heart issues. So it's called coq10, coenzymeq10. It's essential for heart function and there are certain drugs that lower the production of coq10 in particular statin drugs. So statins can cause coq10 to go down. Doctors now are recommending people supplement with coq10 whenever they're taking a statin to make up for it, right? Guess what, you know, organ meat contains high levels of coq10, heart. Heart, it's fascinating.

If you look at like liver, you see lots of iron, phosphorus, zinc, selenium, of course, the B vitamins, kidneys, you see a lot of the, and so it's very interesting that you see this kind of crossover. So there's a little bit of truth to what they kind of say.

It's really strange, right? Yeah, it totally makes logical sense that it'd have the building blocks and nutrients like for that specific organ, but in terms of it being from another species, I wonder how much of it translates. It's called glandular therapy. Glandular therapy is what it was called,

and it's an ancient way of treating the body or whatever. So anyway, bodybuilders and strength athletes have been eating organ meats for a long time. The organ meats are the most prized amongst hunter-gatherers. 100-gatherers kill an animal, that's what they eat first. And again, they're so nutrient- Wasn't it the heart that was the most revered or the liver?

Heart, liver, brain, all the organs. I'm not sure which one was the most. Yeah, because I remember they would just like, that was like the prize that whoever killed would have the first rights to it. Or if you're a guest, they would cut that out and give it to you as a gift. But they're so nutrient dense that you can actually

overdo it. So you can eat so much liver. Like if I ate a bunch of cow liver all the time, I would actually run the risk of having too much nutrients. You don't find this with other foods. The problem with organ meats is, and this way I ask you guys,

if you guys ever eat them, they don't taste good. See, that's good. That's good. Oh, man, you just kinda like pinch your nose and put it down, man. That makes it with like, yeah, for something. That's the move.

You put it with ground beef and you cook it up. Still handling, have you guys handled like liver and whatever, it's like jelly? So like what we'll do is we'll ground it up. So Jessica would do this. She'd buy it, ground it up, and add like an ounce of, you know, orean meat to like a pound of, you know, grass fed ground beef or whatever. Yeah. So that, you know, we'd give it to the kids that have no idea whatever they wouldn't taste it.

They know, now you know. But you don't taste it. And it's what's full of nutrients and all that stuff. But it's so smart though. Yeah it's full of nutrients and all that stuff. But again, it's so smart though. Yeah, that's why you're so grateful. That's why you're smart, buddy. But you know, because organ needs to have a very strong flavor, the hard to find.

So what I've done now is I started supplementing with, and I've talked about this, I supplement with it, Paleo Valley who we work with. So one of our sponsors for the listeners, they're the ones that make the beef sticks that we talk about all the time, the grass fed beef sticks. They also have an organ complex. What do you think about it? I like it. You do. Yeah, it's a combination and they're all grass fed. So here's the other part. When you're looking for quality, especially

with organ meats, it's even more important than it is for the muscle because the organ meats tend to filter things out, so the belief is that you want clean liver, clean kidneys, you don't want an animal that's eating, you know, lots of grain, taking lots of antibiotics, that kind of stuff. So you want grass fed, organic organ meats, when you're eating organ meats,

but they make capsules. So it's an organ complex that has liver, it sounds a lot more, yeah, like some I could repeatedly do versus, it is hard to keep that up in terms of like having organ meats constantly in your dinners and your lunches and whatnot. Well, the first time I experimented with it, it was chicken livers and chicken livers also high in cholesterol.

And I was eating, you know, I eat a few of them every other day or something like that. And this is with cholesterol too. When I was eaten, you know, I'd eat a few of them every other day or something like that. And this is with cholesterol too. When I increase my organ meat consumption with cholesterol, my strength, it's like the most effective natural supplement. Well, kind of along these lines, if you guys heard of live water, it's this whole movement, of course, Silicon Valley's like adopting this like crazy, but like they're starting to sell this water that basically is untreated, unfiltered, and from like a spring, the mountain spring. Yeah.

You don't know if an animal like shit and pissed in it, like, you know, people are swimming in it, you know, they're just like, they're climbing that they're, they're gathering it from a clean source, but that's unfiltered, untreated, and they're bottling it in like, it's 25 bucks a gallon, basically. They call it live water? Live water. Yeah, that's smart.

They're trying it because it's got all the natural nutrients and probiotics and things, right? So it's a very, it's a very burning man idea that this guy's served. Someone's like, how do we sell this? But then we don't, you know, have to filter it because that's expensive. Yeah, that's hard. Let's like how do we how do we sell this but then we don't you know have to filter it because that's expensive Yeah, that's hard. Let's call it live right because there's living You have to sell it for five X the price. Oh, oh, yeah, oh, thanks. Yeah, there's a lot of interesting stuff around water

I've you guys heard of like structured water and yeah, I know what Paul check does. Yeah Yeah, like if you if you microwave, it makes it not good anymore. Yeah, there's all kinds of interesting, like spiritual stuff that's, you know, people place on water for sure. I don't know if I buy any of that stuff. I think obviously you don't want to drink distilled water. Right.

Because that's not good. Well, I mean, I have seen some of those interesting studies where they like, they speak like angry words to the water, it changes its state somehow, it's really weird. Yes, Adam's looking very confused. Yeah, it's, look it up. So there was this, I remember his name, Japanese scientist, and he's known for this. What he would do is they would take water, this is no joke, and they would either yell

at it or have an argument around it or pray over it or say nice things over it, then they would freeze the water and then look at it under a microscope. Then the ice like crystals would be totally different. Yeah, so if it's like, if it was like angry stuff, this is the concept that the water is picking up the vibrations from the probably, I don't know, probably part of it. I don't know how much like truth. I just, yeah. But apparently, I mean mean the sound is traveling right into the water and it

I could have some doors it so it's got it right yeah, but I don't think they're freezing it while they're yelling at it I think they said something to it and then frozen yeah, yeah So with it with the on the microscope you would see like the happy water What everyone would call it would have like this beautiful, you you want, would have these beautiful crystalline, crystal-like, or mature. And then the ones with negative stuff are all unorganized and weird or whatever. Yeah, really.

Yeah, dude, I don't know if I, I don't know if I can. Yeah, I missed the TV right now. I need Doug to pull it up so I could see what this looks like. Oh, yes. Oh, yeah, I forgot his name. Doug, do you know the guy's name? Yeah, Masaru Emo-to.

Mm. The thing is called the message From the water. Are you looking at it? Yeah, I am does it look like what South saying? I've seen it before let me pull up an image here and maybe I can turn it around. I like it when Doug speaks Japanese Do you guys like it? Yeah, yeah, so nice turns me on I'm glad Doesn't do that to me with it it's really not. Well, whatever, either way, I guess alone here. Hey, did you guys see that Kanye West is doing something with Gap, a collab coming with Gap and Kanye West?

Totally, finally, you know, changed directions here, but I just popped in my head that how crazy that is. Really? Yeah. What is he gonna do? It kind of makes sense, because it wasn't he responsible for making polo shirts cool all of a sudden?

I don't know, is he? I don't know if he is or not, but so I'm interested in this too. So Doug, while you're looking after you're looking up angry water, could you, you know, some of the YouTube stars and younger generation of kids,

like one of the smart things that they do is they collab with brands like Gap and Target and they have like tons of traffic. It's not as cool, right? Like so when I was growing up like a brand that was carried in target is not cool No, it was I mean even though it's getting you know seen by the masses and probably sold like crazy or marshals or Ross These like a step up from Kmart. Yeah, you're totally the ambassador to cool. Yeah Fuck off came out. Yeah, you're totally the ambassador to cool. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Maxx, the shirts were, you know, buy two for $40. At one point, the shirts were selling for 150 a shirt and they'd sell out. They would make them very exclusive. There would be only a certain amount.

They would once they sold out. And it was like an underground thing that was really expensive and extremely profitable. And then, you know, and in that industry, that's, you know, like selling out, right? You instead of saying kind of private underground, then you go to the big monster company like Gap and you do something.

So I think this is gonna hurt his brand. I don't know, no, I don't think it'll hurt, I don't know. I just, it's really interesting. Kanye seems to be almost invulnerable. Like he says and does stuff that you think would kill you. You know, like what did he do? He released his, like Christian album. Like a gospel album.

Yeah, a gospel which, which, there's, I don't think there's a PR agent in the world that would have said, yeah, you know, it would be a good idea for your business. Yeah. Release a gospel album. Or to come out and support Trump.

And support Trump, right? Yeah, he gets away with a lot of, sure. I think he gets away with, with quite a bit. So it'll be interesting to see. That's why I'm really curious, because it, in the past, you, so what I was gonna have you look up, what are you looking at?

There's the water. Oh, I mean, look at it. Yeah. Oh, that's kind of neat. You know what that reminds me of, by the way? Snowflakes. Yeah, yeah. No, you don't remind me of just a throwback to the 90s. The cologne that represented the 90s

more than anything else. Cool water. Cool water. Cool, guys. I still have some. I don't remember that. You don't know, cool. I hate it, cool.

So it was an aftershave that I had, but I had that forever. I remember a brute. Brute. I was still after my dad. I had, but I had that forever. I'm more of a brute. Brute. I was still laughing my dad. Yeah, brute. I burned my face. As a kid, I remember getting that for Christmas.

I was like the stupid little kids. Yeah. Alternate that with Stetson. Yeah. Yeah. I actually got that too. No, you just. I did.

You got Stetson. I got Stetson and Brute as a kid growing up. I was sure, I mean, sure, younger than your son. And I got that at least, younger than your son. And I got that at least a handful of times for Christmas. Oh, really? I bought them the axe, the axe body spray, the odorant or whatever.

Yeah. And so you walk into the room and like, dude. Oh, you got them on that? Oh, my God, that's so strong. Oh, no, dude. What's going on here? This stuff is way too strong. Yeah.

Dude, speaking of celebrities, LeBron, you got a hundred million dollars. A hundred million dollars to start his own media company. Now here's the deal. He said in according to his media company is gonna be unapologetically political. What? The goal of the media company is to shift the culture.

That's quote, what they're saying. Like in what direction? Well, he's uh... lebron seems to be based on his comments and stuff like that pretty left pretty far left or whatever uh... so it's gonna be i would have not watched the show you guys are watching so many ride it up on a first hit and then i reported back that i'm not a fan of that i'm not a fan of his pa I mean here's a pretty example though of how

I absolutely love lebronron James as an athlete. And I watch him the way he plays the game. He's one of the, if not the greatest of all time to play the sport. And I have the utmost respect for him. And then it ends right there. And then when he opens his mouth and he talks about politics, I just don't tune in.

So is it gonna be a, I'm confused. This is gonna be like a TV show. This just don't tune in. So as it can be, I'm confused. This is gonna be like a TV show. This is gonna be a podcast. So they already have a show. What's it called? Dug undisputed or undisputed, I think is what it is. I think I messed that up. It's a media company.

I would assume it's gonna be shows, you know, multiple shows or whatever. Right, but this is what I think catapulted it. Was this at this show I think is doing really well. Yeah, so you know what's funny about all this? This is what's interesting, right? Because media has already done this. We've already seen the news, I should say, news media.

We've already seen this start to happen where news media companies start to cater to an audience and it's become less and less, it's become more and more biased and less and less, you know, like the classic less, you know, like the classic journalism where it's, you're supposed to be unbiased or whatever. So I think what we're gonna start seeing is opposing media groups that are, you know, driven by an agenda openly,

which I mean, I guess is totally fine. I'm waiting for social media to do that. I think I predict we're going to start to see competing social media companies come out that are going to compete with Twitter and Facebook because Twitter and Facebook and right now we're getting a lot of criticism. Yeah, you don't have any options right now. It's pretty slanted in one direction. Yeah, they're getting a lot of criticism right now. In fact, Facebook, well, all the social media companies are going

to start getting maybe start to get scrutinized by the government because right now they're free from, they fall under the category of like the phone company where if you and me get on the phone and you say something that is slanderous against someone else, the phone company can't be sued because they're just the utility, the service. Yes, but if you did it in a magazine, and the editor edits the magazine, they say,

now that magazine can actually be sued, while social media companies were protected like phone companies, but they're being found to kind of edit their content, which means that they might be right. Right, rightfully so, because that is what they're doing, is they're omitting other opinions and counter viewpoints because they don't want that on their platform. Yeah, which is their private decision. I think it's totally fine, but now I think, well, if you're doing that, you're not going

to be protected the way that phone companies were protected before. So, I think we may start to see competing social media and stuff like that as people start to want to find something that represents them more. But this is just, I mean, is it going to increase the conversation? Well, the less excited about people spawning off and creating more extreme like versions of the polar ends, you know, I would love to see more rational, logical conversations. I think there's a market opening for that.

So like I've shared before the newsletter that I subscribe to, the flip side. And I like that by the way. Which cool, right? I like it. So I think there's, I think there's a place for that for somebody to come in that's down the middle that shares both left and right and present a more neutral position on news and journalism.

I think there's a big more. I just want to know the facts. I don't need all this extra. And the reason why I think there's a big market for it is because emotion. Most people are pretty savvy that CNN is one way, Fox is the other way, there's no doubt in that. Just 10 years ago, that was not like a thing. No one was like, oh, you got your news from CNN or you got your news from Fox,

I can just disregarding it as reliable. It's been like this for a little while. I would say under a decade. No, more than that for sure. Yeah, that's for sure. Well, I mean, Fox came in with the intention to be the counter to see in it. And now, see, here's the thing. So what they saw was that media representation on the right.

Right. Media was going left. So it opened up a huge market for a company like Fox to cover what they're not covering or to show a perspective that a lot of people weren't getting, and now Fox gets, they get more viewers and higher ratings than the other ones combined, because they're kind of by themselves, right? So I think we're gonna start to see that

in a lot of markets, social media. I think you're gonna start to see that in other forms of media. So it's gonna be really interesting to see what this kind of looks like. I'm all for it, but I agree with you. I think there's also going to open up a market for people to come out and be like, hey, here's the deal.

Here's what the left says. Here's what the right says. Here's the facts. Make up your own mind type of deal. I think there's going to be a market for that. Maybe they do. Maybe we'll finally actually vote a different party, right? Maybe we'll finally see the first time. I mean, that would be kind of what the show would be. It would be kind of more of a libertarian type of slanted view. Or Green Party or another third party. Right. I don't think so. The only time that both parties work together very well is to exclude a third party. They become awesome working together when that happens. It's pretty, it's pretty messed up or whatever. Anyway, I got some good news.

They're good. Yeah, no problem. A team of researchers at the University of Oslo invested COVID transmission and tried to see if there was any spikes in COVID that could be attributed to gyms reopening. Okay, I think this is great research because the belief right now is that gyms

are gonna be one of the worst places because you're sharing equipment, you're sweating or whatever, this is gonna be, if gyms open up, it's gonna be, how they're gonna spread, how COVID's gonna spread. So some of the last places to open are gyms. In fact, I know in New York, the governor there is getting a lot of heat because he's saying that the gyms are basically closed

indefinitely. Because I can tell further notice when I open the gyms, which is pissing everybody out. Santa Clara looks like that right now. Right, right. So the study shows that, and it's a big study. They studied 30,000, 700 members of the public between 18 and 64 and they did a lot of controls. And what they found was there was no virus transmission or increase in COVID disease that was related to the opening of gym facilities. So they found that opening gyms was not, didn't significantly contribute to spike in COVID. Now, I would think there is somewhat of a bias with that study because you're now,

you're studying, okay, if you're somebody who goes back to the gym right now when it's first holding up, you are not the weekend warrior gym user. You are the, I've been dying for these gyms to open. I've probably been following maps anywhere to hold me over till I get in there type of person. You're probably healthier diet, healthier person, and then you're in.

So I think that just shows the importance of that of being healthy and the resiliency of a strong immune system, and more so than it is, like gyms are more susceptible or not. I think if you put a bunch of weak immune systems and sick people in that environment, that environment can't be good, right? I agree 100% because what you have with COVID transmissions are comorbidities. That increases symptoms and infection rates, poor health.

So you kind of have a self-selection going on with gyms because people who show up to gyms tend to care about their health, tend to be more fit. You're probably not getting a bunch of nursing home people, people who are, and here's a deal. Who feels crappy and the decides go get a workout. So you're probably, you're probably reducing the amount of people that potentially could be spreading, which this is all fact, which is why I think gyms be reopened. I think because again, they're showing that the places where this spreads the most are nursing homes. Nursing homes are like the worst, and it makes sense that that would be, you know, where

the worst place is. And I tell you, man, we need to consider long-stream, long-term, downstream effects of some of these policies, because a lot of times, the policies, they don't look further than their own nose. And so they're like, do this, this is better for our health, but you know, now people are not active. They're shut inside their houses, they can't go anywhere, look at their mental health. Like we got to count all these stuff.

You have to factor on the preventative methods too. Like to be able to maintain your body's health and immune system strength, you need to be able to move and be active and be outside and do all these things without a restrictive breathing aid, you know, constantly on your face that's just collecting bacteria and keeping it right on your face. Well, what we're starting to see is that these are artificial market pressures from the local governments and what they're starting to do is they're actually preventing corporate gyms and big box gyms

from opening because they tend to follow the rules and the small mom and pop facilities who can get away with like just telling their members, hey don't worry about it come in, nobody's saying anything or whatever, those are kind of still opening and I'm wondering if it's going to shift the market away from the big box cheap gyms to the more expensive boutique type facilities. Well, we saw what Crunch did, right? Crunch moved that way. Like you saw, we saw the 24-hour fitness, you saw gold, you saw GNC, all filing bankruptcy,

all closing down gyms, and Crunch, as far Crunch and UFC, as far as I know, didn't close any facilities, and they went the opposite route and they increased rates and are just trying to provide a better service. It's funny because we did that episode. I told my dad, I'm like, you know, watch out because he had this like sweet art deal. At his place, he goes to the spa gym.

And, you know, I'm like, the only way they're gonna be able to keep their lights on is if they raise the rates. Otherwise, you know, you guys are gonna come back in, maybe a few months, I can keep a flow, but it's never gonna sustain that model and sure enough, like you just got emailing so mad about it, that they're raising his rates.

He's like, okay, okay, dude, I'm like, you knew this was coming. Like, how else are they gonna be able to keep their lights on? Yeah, I think that this is gonna have long term effects on the consumer. I really do. I think a lot of people are working at home and maybe even if their gyms are reopening,

a lot of people, I've got a lot of DMs from people who are like, you know what, I'm kind of enjoying working at home. I think I don't wanna go back to the gym type of deal. Yeah, so, what do you guys think? What do you guys think? Do you guys think this is going to increase decrease or keep the same in terms of people's behaviors? Do you think it's gonna increase people's consistency

because maybe they're working at home or is it gonna affect it? I think that we're gonna see something similar to what Mark Mastroff said. I think that we're in the middle of this scary on certain time, there's still a major division on how people feel about COVID, right? You've got a half the country that's like,

fuck it, open it up, I'm over it. If I get it, I get it, type of attitude. Yeah. Then you have the other half that are still very scared. They think you're out there killing people. Yeah, and so we're still very divided on this conversation. I think once a vaccine comes out, once there's more information, once this has been going for a while,

I do think we're gonna see a surge. Now, what may change the game forever is this, this time frame, you know, whether that's three months, six months, nine months, a year that we go through this of uncertain times and division amongst the society. If that it prolongs to be, you know, over nine months a year, I, it's going to shake the landscape up and not just fitness. I mean, either day I was having a conversation with my hairstylist and that whole industry is completely upside down. Totally.

Cause I mean, she, 30 years that she worked in the same place, 30 years she worked in the same place. I know, it's sad man. And she's decimated that industry. Yeah, she's gone. And because you had these owners that, you know, they were, they were still trying to collect money from their hairstylist to pay for their stalls,

but then they can't come in and kind of work. And so a lot of them were like, what this is ridiculous, I can't do this. Here's my personal opinion. So here's the timeline, right? We got COVID spikes. Oh, they go down because we're not out. Now everybody go back out.

Predictably, you'll see spikes again. Hopefully we're gonna have a vaccine. You know, maybe by the beginning or middle of, you know, of 2021, but here's a deal, the vaccine, they typically take some about 10 years to put one out. Yeah. They're putting this one out in a year. That means a lot of people are gonna be afraid

to use the vaccine. So I think the only way we're gonna get around this is people are just gonna have to kind of be okay with this existing and being around. I don't see it disappearing anytime soon. It's just a new kind of way of life. And honestly, right now, what it looks like is the fear and anxiety is causing a bigger, big problems for a lot.

I don't say bigger, but big problems for a lot of people. So I think it's going to get to the point where people are just kind of accepted, take their own risks or be pragmatic with the way they handle certain things. And it's just, I think what it's really fascinating, I think you brought it up to talk about is these brands that are shutting down store locations and everyone's going to the direct to consumer model. Microsoft shut down their physical locations permanently. Permanently. All of them. That's crazy. All of them permanently shut down their physical locations permanently. Permanently. All of them.

That's crazy. All of them permanently shut down. Do you know how many total store locations they have? I don't. I don't know that. I was like $400 million worth of whatever. It was a big deal. Now I think part of the reason why they did it is they're seeing that they can actually

maintain their revenues and they don't necessarily. So what they're going to do is they they're gonna have kind of a smaller approach based off of what I read where people are gonna help you over the phone and maybe come to your house if you need to, but yeah, the permanent store's ever doing good. I always saw like Apple store and then I'd see Microsoft store, there was like two people,

like hundreds, yeah, I was like, how is this place even still a business? Well Apple's done such a good job. I mean, people don't even consider them a tech company. They're considered a luxury brand. Yeah. So they have become a brand that you want, just like Louis Vuitton is to luggage or clothes.

Like it's become a, what you'm gonna call it, like a fashion statement, but... Accessory. Yeah, more than it is, but. Accessory. Yeah, more than it is, it's badass tech, but then it's like, it's a, I can't even think of the word I'm trying to explain when people attach themselves to brands like that.

Like a part of your identity almost. Yeah, and I see a lot of these companies though, Microsoft shutting down and everyone's going the direct to consumer route. And you see brands that we work with right now. Everybody, every one of them that started their business as direct consumer first, they're all exploding. Yeah. Every one of them that had a model that was set for this first is absolutely exploding. We don't have a single brand that we work with that I haven't talked to that is it having a hard time

like fulfilling orders. There are some positive stories that are happening in the world of business during this time. So even though everybody's freaked out, we're not going, not as many people going out, you don't see as many people on the road and people aren't shopping in person, there's still a lot of buying and consuming going on at home.

Yeah, I think it's just shifting consumer behaviors and the way companies deliver their products, but the demands are still there. Just because big box gyms might not be open in the way that they used to be, it doesn't mean that the demand for working out is going to go down. You're still going to have a demand for it. You're just going gonna service it differently. Or, you know, just because Microsoft closes its stores doesn't mean that the demand for those products

or whatever goes down, it just means they're gonna deliver a status symbol. That was the word I was gonna say. Yeah. There it is. I hate that one, I forget something. I can't come up with that. Hey, you guys still have yet to have

the peanut butter, haven't you? No, peanut butter magic spoon. Dude, you, yeah. Did you get, did you get one? No, I, or I haven't come up with that. Hey, you guys still have yet to have the peanut butter, haven't you? Oh, peanut butter magic spin? Dude, you, yeah. Did you get, did you get, you won't? No, I, or I haven't got it yet. Bomb. Bomb, bomb, bomb. We hit it out of the park.

So here's the thing, it doesn't, so I was anticipating like a Captain Crunch type. I was gonna say, what would you compare it to like, or like a Reese's puff like a, Yes. Really? Yeah, it has more like a peanut butter chocolate flavor to it. It just, my voice just went out.

Yeah. Yeah. I see you brought that for the kids. Did I say that? Yeah, but has more like a peanut butter chocolate flavor to it. Just to do it. My voice just went out. Yeah. Yeah. I see you brought that for the kids. Did I say that you who brought that? Yeah, dude, because, okay. Like, we call it vacation cereal. And they get like one, they get to choose one.

And normally, like, the last few times I've been able to like, pitch magic spoon to them and they've been all about it. But we were out shopping and so they picked that one out. Now, if I would have had that, I might have been able to do the old switch root. Yeah, well, that's what I want you to do that, because I totally thought it was gonna be kept in crunch type flavor.

Because isn't it, can crunch considered peanut butter, or is that not considered? No, not the regular captain. I'm gonna go and say that the roof of my mouth will never be the same because of that syrup. Yeah, it tastes of... Destroyed.

Yeah, fuck your fucking home. Yeah, no, it tastes destroyed. It fucked your feet. Yeah, no, this has got like this like chocolatey peanut butter kind of taste to it. It's different. Now, would it be good in chocolate milk? Probably. Oh my god, that's interesting. Yeah, let's sprinkle some cheese on it and you're good.

I got, it came in a double pack, right? So I think right now if you order the peanut butter with them, you get half peanut butter, half the honey nut, but the peanut butter isn't so good that I haven't even dipped into the other one yet. Well, you get half peanut butter, half the honey knot, but the peanut butter isn't so good that I haven't even dipped into the other one yet. Well, you know, I just, okay, so here's it. So I can't have dairy or dairy protein. So I'm a little bit like kind of noise a shout at me

that I can't have. The cereal but I'll tell you what, when you look at other high quote unquote high protein cereals, this is what they'll consider high protein, like seven grams for They're serving four or five. Or it's like a crappy protein source or whatever. You know, this has got way protein in it. It's like a supplement, you know,

but it comes in like amazing cereal form. So that speaking of companies that are crushing right now, they're exploding. Magical is crushing. Oh yeah. No, if when they come out with a flavor like this watch, and I haven't looked today to see if it is, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's already sold out.

Like getting blueberry and peanut butter stocked up is like the hardest thing ever for me. So anytime that it is, I buy like three cases of it and I'm sure it's great. I gotta look again and see like their library of, you know, different options for flavors because I was pretty certain they had cinnamon. I wasn't able to find it again. I really liked it. I wonder if they like reformulated it.

Because my other favorite cereal was cinnamon toast crunch. If they ever nail that one, I am like four life. I never even got to try the birthday cake that they had. So that came and went. So I don't know what I mean, I imagine they're doing feelers, right? And they test all these flavors out and see what the response is. Yeah. And then I know every time they do something, they go back and they still continue to reformulate. I mean, it's a young company, right? So sometimes they release something just like the fruity one, by the way, that was something. So I had bought so much. So fruity and blueberry was originally my

favorite. So I had bought a ton of that. Yeah. So I had finally gone through all my, like, fruity ones that I had. And ton of that. Yeah. So I had finally gone through all my like fruity ones that I had and I got the new formulation and the new formulation is bomb. Is it fruity? Yeah, it was already, it was already, hell of good. That's, see, that's my current favorite. So yeah, I have to try the peanut butter and compare.

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First question is from RJ Westerman How many times a week do you need to exercise each body part is once a week? Okay, or do you need to hit each body part twice or more a week to really see results? All right 32 times. Yeah, that's the studies they shot. 32 times a week. Exactly. Yeah, that would suck. You know what's fun. So I'm going to go over what the studies say

and then, well, let's go over our personal experience. Because sometimes, actually I should say, oftentimes the studies don't quite line up with real life because there's limitations in the studies. In the studies, they typically last 12 weeks or something like that. The training people for that certain period of time is a little bit of self-selection bias for who signs up for the studies. In the studies, they typically last 12 weeks or something like that. The training people for that certain period of time is a little bit of self-selection bias for who signs up for the studies. And then you have us who've trained regular people for years and years and years. And so we can see all the patterns.

Yeah, and you get to see it over a long period of time. So the studies say this. The studies say one to three days a week, as long as the volume is the same, then you're probably gonna see similar results. In other words, if you did 15 sets for biceps, one day a week, or you spread 15 sets out over three workouts, doesn't make a big difference. Okay, I'm gonna disagree with that because in my experience working with people, I would say probably 80% if not more

of the people I work with do best by hitting their body parts between two to four days a week, right on that range. Most people around three people with, you know, who are a little older or less recovery ability to and people are more advanced. About four total volume per week per body part anywhere between I'd say, you know, nine to like maybe 21, per body part anywhere between I'd say you know nine to like maybe 21 sets per body part for the whole week. For me, I respond best when I can hit my body parts three to four days a week. Even if I did the same volume and I hammered my body parts once a week, it doesn't work the same for me. It just never, it just doesn't. I'm just a superior to hit it at least.

Yeah, I'm the same and it's mainly for me. It just never, it just doesn't. I'm just, it's superior to hit it at least. Yeah, I'm the same. And it's mainly for me, it helps me not overreach. I used to train specific body parts, like, you know, once or even twice a week. And I would always go too far. It was just inevitable. I would like stack all these exercises together and really try and get the most and squeeze the most out

of the muscle potential for that day. And I would inevitably, the next day, be insanely sore, which would then impede on my next workout going from then on out. So that was always just something I started to notice. I just thought it was like eventually, you didn't get as sore. And so you would keep hammering and upping the intensity a bit with the workouts, you know, with that split type of routine, but I definitely am a big proponent for, you know, the total body workouts, and then having that split throughout the week

and spread out. I find two to three for me. I feel pretty effective with two. I think three is ideal, and I guess it depends on which body part we're talking about that I find, I get better. Like like my legs do better with three times a week But I could do my arms twice a week and feel like I get I get plenty So I think there's gonna be that little individual variance per person now

Do you do find the same thing I found with clients that most of them are two to three four days a week? Yeah, and and a lot of that is what Justin's was alluding to and then the other thing is too that when you When you do it more often and less volume per workout, right? So less sets, right less sets less reps in a workout and you spread out over the week You tend to do the better stuff Right, so when you do a one day and you say like let's say I'm gonna train legs all in one day You know, maybe you squat in your leg press, or you squat in hack squat, and then leg extensions,

and maybe some body weight stuff. You end up doing a lot of these other movements. Two-for-two. Yeah, and you're just not getting as big bang for your buck. I mean, if you squat and you're squatting, like, you know, five by five type sets, and then you move over to leg press, and maybe you get after like, you know, five by five type sets. And then you move over to leg press, and maybe you get after leg press, after that,

everything else that you do afterwards. Good luck. You're just not, you're probably running at 60% of what you could probably do if you were fresh going into those movements. So I find, that's what I find the most valuable is, you end up being able to give more towards better movements when you spread it out over two to three times versus all in one work.

Okay, so here's my whole theory on why you still have people in the training world that say, hit your body part hard once a week and then it doesn't make a big difference even if the volume is, you know, so long as the volume is controlled. Here's the problem with that. When you have the muscle building, body building, trainer type people, they place all the emphasis on muscle damage and stimulating muscle growth. When you have your athletic trainers,

they place all their emphasis on skill and technique. You would never see a basketball coach tell their players, hey, instead of doing one hour, three days a week, why don't you do three hours on Monday? You would never see that because athletic trainers understand that technique and skill is better practiced frequently. People who are in that muscle building space, forget that. All they look at is the muscle. Oh, damage the muscle, it's all the same. It's not, you forget that skill is extremely important when it comes to building muscle also,

because you get to practice the skill of squatting, deadlifting, pressing more frequently. When you do it once a week, it's not nearly as effective. Well, that's why I think that. When you're fresh and sharp. That's why I think, for me, legs really makes a big difference because when you do squatting of all the movements, I do, like, arms, there's not a lot of skilled movement.

So, me getting to do squats, if I spread it out over three times a week, I might get 15 sets of squats in a week. I will never do 15 sets of squats in one workout. Well, and I just insane. There's just so many compensations that happen when you're like in that mentality of having to hammer that body part

and just keep squeezing the most You know that you possibly doing to to speak to like the skill and the technique like you lose that very quickly once You know, you know, you don't you're not rested and and you're not fully in good composure and so You're gonna end up developing bad patterns going forward when you're gonna,, you know, repeat this exercise. And so from, yeah, like maybe that is more from an athletic perspective, but even if, you know, for your common person that goes into the gym, like just performing that same lift, like you're, you're just, it's going to downgrade your quality. The average person would do so much better if they stopped looking at their workouts as ways to hammer body parts and they started looking them as ways to practice

movements. Perfect. They'll get better results. In the short term, they'll get the great results and the long term, they'll get superior results. It's like reminding me when I would see people running and I had this epiphany, I'd see people running terribly and I think, why do people run so bad and go push themselves like, oh yeah, because all their emphasizing is the exhaustion aspect.

They're thinking, I gotta go out and get tired. Nobody's thinking, I'm gonna go practice the skill of running. If they practice the skill of running, they would do far better long term. It's the same thing with resistance training. You're far better off splitting up your volume, going to the gym, and practicing the skill of these lifts.

You're gonna get better gains, especially long-term when you do that. So for most people, hit your body parts about two to three days a week, divide up the volume. And again, after training people for years and years and years, it's superior for most people. The people that can be okay with the ones a week,

hammering, tend to be very advanced, have already gone through years of practicing skills of exercise and enhance. And oftentimes enhanced with anabolic steroids. So next question is from Andrew Beth. Can you elaborate on the differing results between low and high rep sets? Oh yeah, this is, this was a, what was it? Low rep and high rep sets. What's the difference between the results? Oh, okay. That they'll provide for you. So low repetitions, you're going to train kind of this low gear, grinding, summoning

of strength, higher rep, more torque. Yeah, higher up stuff you're going to get, you know, better pumps, it's going to be a little bit more exhausting, a little bit more cardio, both extremely valuable for the body. Now, this is an observation, okay? So I think everybody should train and go in and out of both of them if they want the best results. But when I observe people who avoid one or the other, here's what I notice.

So when I see people who only ever train in low reps, here's what I tend to observe in terms of how they look. And this, there's no science to support this is all pure observation They tend to look very hard solid granite like but they lack the Muscle volume they lack the big round shape shape that you see the high rep people tend to have that shape to their muscles But they lack the density it almost looks like it's just full of air so

Which one gives you which? I think the low rep stuff gives you that hard dense look. The higher rep stuff gives you that more of that pump kind of bubbly look. I think you got to do them both. Both gives you the best result. Well, the beauty is that they both send a very unique and different signal to the body.

So if it doesn't matter which side you're on, most people tend to gravitate towards one of the other. My guys that love to lift heavy and brag about the weights they lift, they tend to find themselves always gravitating to the singles doubles, triples, or maybe five by five type of training. And they spend a majority of their weight training in that rep range. And even if their goal is to build strength and power

and muscle, which that serves, that lifting in that rep range serves a lot of that. But because they do that all the time, one of the best things they can do is move to 15 to 20 reps and they'll get a ton of strength and muscle. And so because it's so different to the body, the body, it feels, five reps feels completely different than 15 to 20 reps. And because of that, the body, it's novel. And so the body, the body, it feels, five reps feels completely different than 15 to 20 reps.

And because of that, the body, it's novel. And so the body then changes. And so, and if you're, same thing is true, if you're a person who's, oh, I want to lean down and I want to be toned and I just want to be firm, I don't want to get big bulky muscle. But so you gravitate towards 15 to 20 reps to supersets to low-rust periods. You train that way all the time. You still, you switching over to the five by five type of training, five sets, heavyweight, five reps.

You will get what you want because it's novel for you also. And so the body, and that's what you want, is you want your training. You want to do it long enough to allow the body to adapt and get good at it, so it changes. But then after at a certain point, and typically, what most of the research looks like is somewhere between that four to eight weeks. So if you've been four to eight weeks in a set rep range,

the best thing that you could possibly do is to move to the other end of the spectrum. And you'll continue to get the results you want. You know, it was a cool thing to observe with this, was your transformation, Adam, because when we first met, you had lived in the 12, 15 rep range for a long time as a pro competitor, then we all got together, start a mind pump,

and then you're like, you know what, I'm gonna see how strong I can get the low rep range. And the change in your physique was interesting. It was like, like I had observed in other people, you kind of got this more kind of granite look. There was a picture that you actually posted of yourself

before and after, both lean or whatever. And it was distinct. Well, I noticed a difference now. So after the first decade of training for me, I gravitated towards the more pumping exercises. I did 10 reps, 12 reps, 15, super set. I kind of lived in that rep range. And something that always kind of bothered me was,

when I was aired up in the gym, I felt really good. I liked the way I looked. I've blood all pumped in there, and my body was all filled out, and my muscle bell is in, and I liked the look that my physique had. The minute I'd walk out the door, a half hour, 30 minutes later,

I would deflate and come down. And when I was not pumped up, I didn't really look like somebody that was really buff. You could kind of tell that I had definition, but it wasn't as defined or it wasn't as pronounced. When I started lifting really, really heavy, I noticed that even when I'm like falling off for like a week or I haven't been consistent,

I mean, but in the gym, you can still see my triceps on me, you can still see my, that was, that didn't happen until I started really lifting heavy and that kind of speaks to the, what you've speculated about, because there is no science right now to support that it makes the muscle look more great. Plus, there's such an individual variant

of even how you would study that. Yeah, but I can attest to my experience of not really lifting heavy that much. And I intermittently did it, but never like I did when we all got together. And it completely changed the way my physique looks. And now I tend to gravitate towards the lower rep range, because I noticed that it seems to keep more muscle

on my body than doing the higher rep. Yeah, I had the completely opposite experience. Just lifting the one to five rep range forever. And then anytime I brought it up to 15 reps or so, even like 10 to 15 reps, I would look in the mirror and I'm like, whoa, you just get that immediate definition that you haven't had the entire time. I just have this sort of like, everything's just sort of the same,

you know, like kind of a look forever. Like you just build a certain amount of muscle mass and then, you know, you just sort of sustain that muscle mass, but the hypertrophy training really shows it off and gives those lines. Well, maybe that's the, and maybe that's the real lesson from this conversation is less than, less about,

oh, five rep range builds granite type looking muscle low rep range builds like this airy Do it all yeah, maybe with the real truth is whatever you're doing that you tend you only need both You only you know what you gravitate towards the most to the most beneficial thing that you could do is the opposite Tony look This is why all of our maps programs phase people in all of those different This is why all of our maps programs phase people in all of those different rep ranges, which by the way, they're all, and I want to mention this on the podcast, they're all 40% off right now, individual programs, if you use the code, summer program. Next question is from Aaron Kirsch 7. What is better raw or cooked vegetables?

What are the benefits or detriment of both? This is so funny. The whole raw versus cooked debate I think is so silly because people don't, they don't understand the total context. It's about assimilation and what you can digest. Well, it all came from when people started sharing the the research around when you cooked the vegetables you lose some of the nutrients. Yes, yeah. And so

and when we study them like that, so if you look at something that's been boiled for 15 minutes and you compare it to it, it's raw form, the raw form, just looking at it like that, looks like it's more nutrient dense. It's got more nutrient value, but then I know where Sal is gonna go right now, which is the whole digestive process has to go.

But it face value, it looks like it's, you know, obviously you've gotten rid of nutrients, so it's a worse option. Yeah, it's like, okay, look, you could look at a rock outside and analyze it, and it's full of minerals. Is that mean you're gonna eat the rock and get all those minerals? No, it'll destroy you. You know, here's the interesting thing about plants. So animals have, they've evolved to have their own defense mechanisms. You

got to remember that humans are the apex predators on earth and we have been for a long time. Animals evolved having sharp teeth, hooves that can run fast, they can move, they've got good hearing, sight and smell. Plants don't go anywhere. So what kind of evolution, how did they evolve to defend themselves? Will they evolved with compounds that made them difficult to digest or compounds that made them actually poisonous in many cases? For example, we eat wheat all the time. Humans have been eating wheat for tens of thousands of years, especially relatively recently. But if you were to go outside and grab some wheat and you didn't grind it and mill it and process it and you just ate it, it would shred you. It would totally shred your

gut. Potatoes, we've been eating potatoes forever. Potatoes are one of a staple in most modern societies. If you picked a raw potato and ate it, it would destroy your gut. Though we cooked plants as a way of neutralizing a lot of these defense mechanisms. This is how humans were able to consume lots of plants. The way humans consume wheat is we mill the shit out of it. Even back in the day, they would grind wheat powders. Forever. And then we would cook it and then we would boil it. And that's how we're able to unlock the nutrients and eat them.

Plants, a lot of plants are this way. Look, you can even do this experiment. Go eat a cup or two cups of raw broccoli. See how you feel. Then go eat one or two cups of very well cooked broccoli and see how you feel. Notice your digestion, notice your bloat, notice how you feel.

It makes a huge difference. So cooking vegetables is one of the best ways you can get to be able to consume a lot of vegetables and unlock those nutrients. Yes, you destroy a lot of nutrients in the plants when you cook them, but it doesn't matter. You're neutralizing a lot of these compounds that cause issues.

It doesn't matter if you can't assimilate the raw ones. It doesn't matter if it affects you negatively. Now the plants that you can eat, Ron, you don't need to cook, are fruit. Fruit are, here's why. Why can we eat fruit without cooking them? Because plants evolve creating these fruits so that animals would eat them and they'd pick up the seeds. Yeah. That's what they wanted.

But roots, leaves, especially stems and roots, those are typically very difficult and not impossible to digest. And if you look at animals that survive just on plants, they chew, look at cows, right? They chew their shit out of grass. And they have two stomachs. Four, I think that's four.

Then they digest a little bit, and then they spit it, they put it back on their mouth, chew it some more, bring it back down, and they chew it some more, and they get gnarly farts. They get gnarly farts. So no, it's silly to, that this whole raw versus cooked debate,

you're better off cooking your vegetables, especially if you eat a lot of vegetables. And of course, some of them are fine eating raw. There's like lettuce and stuff like that. But otherwise, yeah, otherwise you're better off cooking your vegetables. Next question is from Evan's medley. Is it true that if you don't use it, you lose it? Yeah.

Did you guys ever go to see a world when you were a kid? There was this walrus called like Schmedley. they would shoot it like pretend shooting and they'd pretend to die and come as Schmedley's alive. Well, anyways, that brought me back. Oh, what happened? Is this Schmedley? Oh, I was like, what is that question? Have to do with that. That was so in the Seriously lost me. I was answering right now. Yeah, no, it absolutely So I think the the the research talks about Seriously, you lost me, and we were answering right? No, absolutely. So I think the research talks about three days after recovery from training a muscle

that atrophy technically starts to happen, right? So if you train legs and the next day, you feel it a little bit, the next day after that, you still kind of feel a little bit. Day three, you feel like fully recovered. Three days after that, they say that atrophy begins to happen. So within a week's time, if you haven't touched

a muscle group, you haven't been training it that atrophy begins to start to start. Oh, dude, it's even more than I can, people think that the thing that you lose is the muscle strength and size. You also lose neurological connections to the muscle. You lose function. So if you were to stop walking for a few months and then all of a sudden get up and start

to try to walk, not only would you be weak, but you would also find walking the skill of walking. It's like a really learned. You have to. If you stop speaking English, you know, for five years and then start speaking it again, you would find that your fluency went down. Now, I want to point out, though, and this is something that's really cool for those that are aspiring lifters or maybe you've just been getting going, what's your first

couple of years is the longer you've been doing it, the less that happens, right? Or the longer it takes to lose it. Right. Right. Right now, the rebound is fast. Right. And this is what's kind of cool about being someone who's happens, right? Or the longer it takes to lose it. Right. So like right now, the rebound is fast. Right. And this is what's kind of cool about being someone who's aging. Right? Because everyone always talks about getting older, how much harder it is.

But I disagree. If you've been somebody who's been lifting for 20 years, there's a lot of things that I feel at an advantage today at almost 40, then what I did when I was 20. The amount of work and eating and consistency that I needed to do in the gym to just barely look like I kind of worked out was unbelievable. And if I fell off for two or three weeks, I looked like the high school kid again

who didn't even training. That was really frustrating. Now, after decades of training consistently, now it's not like that for me. Now, actually the opposite, I feel, I feel like as long as I make sure I touch, get a good lift in every once in a while, I could kind of sustain this look.

If I keep the diet in check and I get some training in, I can keep manage a pretty fit looking physique, which is really cool. It wasn't like that before. So, yeah, atrophy does set in, and we do, if we don't use it, we do lose it, but like to South's point about it's more than just muscle atrophy. There's also a neurological disconnect or that you start to lose, right? Where if you've really solidified those pathways for

so many years, I think that's what helps you is that it helps sustain that muscle. Well, this is also you really have to consider when you start to have joint pains and arthritis and these types of things of how much of your day-to-day process is not using rotation, not using different articulations that you need to be doing with your joints in order for them to feel stable and able and active. These are things that we're always trying to stress because if you are consciously trying to make sure that these moves make their way into your everyday routines,

you're much more likely to keep everything going in a positive direction. Yeah, I mean, your body, the human body evolved to constantly be efficient. And so what that means is that whatever you do, your body aims at becoming better at and more efficient at, whatever you don't do, your body has no reason to maintain. Because whatever your, if your body needs to maintain a movement pattern or muscle,

it costs energy. So imagine if like, you know, you have like the, like the, like the C, you're a CEO of a company and you're constantly evaluating the company and you're like You know what there's no market demand for this department right here. Why are we maintaining this department? It's costing resources Let's move this department over here. Well, we need more resources. So you lose it your body is constantly doing this is constantly pruning and focusing and adapting so Absolutely what you what you don't use you lose what you don't use, you lose, what you don't practice, you lose.

And what you do practice, you get better at and more efficient at. And so it's a constant, you're always gonna be reminding your body to do this. I remember talking to people about exercise and one of the objections, which I always thought was strange, people would have would be to, hey, well, what if I build a bunch of muscles stop working out, then what out? Then what happens? Well, it goes away. Like, what do you think

it would happen? And that was their objection. Well, I'm not going to even start then if it's going to go away. It's like, well, let's dumb. Yeah, everything works that way. There's nothing in the human body that doesn't work that way. So absolutely continue to practice. Here, you know, like I rarely practice jumping and bounding. And more recently I found that I'm starting to lose that skill. It just doesn't feel as comfortable to me, and I remember like, oh yeah, I need to start practicing this if I want to maintain this particular skill.

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