Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 133: Lagging & responsive muscles, body image issues, sleep eating & More

Episode Date: August 19, 2015

In this episode Doug announces the iTunes review contest winners (yes, a little late) and Sal & Justin console Adam after he reads a very personal (and not so glowing) review. They also take on your questions and explain why some body parts grow more quickly and why others seem growth-resistant, how the man of few words (Justin) became a super-star salesman, what to do when a client has body image issues and solutions (maybe) for a PumpHead who visits the refrigerator while he is asleep. If you were announced as a winner of the iTunes review contest send us a message on Instagram @mindpump with your address and shirt size and we will send you out a Mind Pump shirt! (We have S, M, L, XL only). Also, please subscribe, rate and review the show if you haven't already. This helps Mind Pump stay up in the rankings on iTunes which allows other people to discover Raw Fitness Truth.

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. Mite, op, mite, op with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. We're live, everyone. Hey Doug, fuck me. Doug, what do you want us to do? About a month ago, I can't even read it. We had an iTunes review contest that was presented on the show. Mm-hmm.

And it's time to announce the winners. Oh, yeah. The winners don't. We picked those. You have them right? These are not the winners. We're going to announce the winners first and then the winners. Well, we got Joe Mama 14.

Hold on, let me find it. Let me find it because I want to read Joe Mama's... Joe Mama. So Joe Howell. Let's see, Joe Mama 15, let's see. 14, 14, 14. Did somebody really say something mean about me, so. Did you, okay, so I broke my screen. Okay, so this one definitely deserves an award.

So Joe Mama 14 wrote this review on iTunes. Let me start off by saying I do CrossFit, and when the first podcast I listen to, you guys totally crushed the CrossFit workouts I turned off the show and moved on Not sure why but I came back a few weeks later and listened to some of some other podcasts and while I want to hate on you guys So bad for hating on CrossFit. I can't This podcast is great very informative, but also very entertaining keep it up fellas

And it'd be cool if you guys got a legit CrossFit athlete in studio and had a conversation with them So basically, he... I love that. I love it because he's a CrossFitr, which means he's, you know, probably not that smart, but then he came back and said, boom, boom, boom, boom. No, I'm just kidding.

Joe Mama, you're an awesome guy or girl, whoever you are. We are going to be sending you some free stuff. Well, we're gonna send a free t-shirt. Oh yeah, okay. Well, yeah, it's stuff. Yeah, so yeah, I'm doing this girl. We're all ripped into me right now. I'm gonna read that.

I'm gonna read that. So Doug's gonna send you some free stuff. So Joe Mama 14, you need to send us your, I guess mailing address, you can go on our Instagram page and direct messages. That'd be perfect. And then who else won? Doug. We've got Shannon Silicon Valley.

Oh, local girl, I guess. Here we go. Read it. The title of this review is The Nerd, The Ego, and The Nice Guy. Who's The Ego? Yes. I don't know.

So Shannon Silicon Valley says, this isn't a nutshell, fitness and being raw with real about fitness is their foundation. I've learned more on this podcast than reading years worth of fitness magazines. Fitness is their foundation, but on top of that, they are funniest shit, unfiltered on a subject, authentic real guys enjoying what they do and who they are, who they are with, but above all genuinely entertaining. Thank you will be getting some free free tea thank you and we have one more who glinda gal glinda gal entertaining is held zero fucks given when you listen to krim at the frog a guy a guy that sounds like Chris Powell and the man with

the voice of the rock angel with the help of the spencer. They manage to do the impossible of blending the raw truth about fitness with absolute ridiculousness. They crush fitness BS with science and tell you the secrets that most companies don't want you to hear

and they aren't afraid to hurt feelings. Very nice, more, more good stuff but I want to go on Rambalon. What was the one that Adam sounded like? Yeah, let's, oh oh Adam is the Chris Powell Who's Chris power? I don't know I suppose to know that the trainers Tranny trainer dude Chris Powell What is no? No, yeah No, I don't know it is I want to fight I want to fight I want to fight inform me I do I'm sorry

I'm so into this one. No, no, Brian bro. I'm sorry Oh, do she put me on blast on here. Oh, chickity. Oh, I knew it was. No, it's okay. So it's, it's, it was, it was, it was just, have you not, it was a minute. Look, I read you guys have broke my screen. My fingers, no, I literally, I had to stop. I had to stop halfway through, because I started to get choked out, because I fucking heard my feeling so bad. No, you did not. I swear to

you. Hug her. What? Read this. Read this. Read it. She really fucking railed me them back over it, but she five star does because she loves you too. So go ahead. No, no, no, it's because she loves you too, bro. No, nobody gives five stars. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, you have an ego and then and then shatter it on to air, bro. Well, okay, this is August. We gotta keep this was August first, right? You want me to read it? No, no, no.

Yeah, you're gonna read it. I'll let you read it to everybody. So everybody can hear me just get blasted here. But what episode was that when we got all emotional with you guys? Was it after August first or before? I think it was after. I think it was after. So I wanted this girl feels bad now.

Maybe she feels bad because she's like, oh, he's not this fucking guy that they've built up on this show to be like a dick. But I'm gonna read it. Read it. You gotta read this. Just wait till you're done. All right, I listen to my pump when I'm working out. I like this kind of stuff.

It's motivating and often full of useful information about fitness and workout, so those sometimes it can be tedious. Sorry, but I am not interested in Adam's feeding schedule. Or when his muscle bellies are full of depleted or how many carbs he eats, or pretty much anything else to do with his competitions.

Keep going. Keep she just warming up, bro. And when he goes on and on and on about himself. And I'm reminded of the time we tried to read Lord of the Rings and gave up when the description of breakfast went on for four pages. I just have to hit fast forward. When Salah just to get to talk more, the shows are great and often hilarious. She's a nice lady. She's not bad.

I mean, I'm with you. I mean, she's just nice. She's a nice lady. She's not bad. I mean, I'm with you. I mean, she's, she's, she's nice. She's a nice person. Oh, yes. She probably love the right intention. She loved the last two. I love, I love, sounds,

sounds like she's got good intentions. I love one. One of the guys says something funny and you hear Doug cracking up the background. The interview's also very entertaining and informative. At least when Adam is hitting on hitting on the feeble guests? And does it use his questions as a springboard to talk about himself? Dude, this is so awkward!

Why are you doing this to us? Yeah. Well, yeah. Yeah, right? That's pretty much it. Is that real? So it's a real, I mean, I got to joke with the fuck up, bro.

Listen, you shouldn't. Listen, bro. It's... Let me tell you something. It's okay real, I mean, I got you. The fuck up, bro. Listen, you shouldn't. Listen, bro. It's, let me tell you something. It's okay. So, do you remember that text you sent us a while ago when you were all like, oh, you know, I don't want people to think I'm like this. Just, you go.

What did I say? Yeah, what did you say? I said, No, bro, you're not. I love you. Yeah, yeah, this is what I said. I basically look, Here's a deal. If this show is going to grow and it's going to get big, we're going to get fucking haters, especially because we're super raw, uncensored. And we, we're just hanging out. We're just sit down

and we talk and we say whatever is on our mind. We're going to piss off some people and some people are going to get turned off and some people are going to like it and people are going to talk shit. And you know what? I don't give it. Who cares who cares the fact that they didn't say it about you bro That hurt my thing listen the fact that she listens to our show gave us a five star and she probably still fucking listens Means that she has a love hate relationship and here's you and here's the bottom line Do not try and soften the boat like I'm a little fucking school Better about coming in last place I'm a little fucking school girl. It's not gonna be like you feel better about coming in last place. It's okay, bro

Don't even it. No stop being a dad right now. You're that unique. I know that you are that you think I do I do not need to hear either one of that Decatur very you know what this shows us we catered a very specific people. Well listen No, no you catered to a lot of people You do yeah, yeah, very specific types of people go go ahead dark. I have a trophy for you. Yeah What do you know? No, no, what we're saying is he's saying he's you know, like everybody is a trophy for taking Oh, taking this one on air. Yeah, you know, I know I think I mean fuck that I was choked up to reading that I'm still haven't caught my breath yet from I'm just'm just like, that hurts my feelings so bad right now. That's somebody even thinks that I'm like that. That we're, all I want to do is use any chance I can to springboard and talk about myself.

You know you should do. You know, you should just fucking lay it on. You should lay it on thick right now. You should be like, you know what? You know what? It reminds me of this time when I was, I started telling a story about it. So she turns it off her fast-forward.

Those type of people are the people that, it hurts my heart that I can't meet that person in person. When I see, when someone has turned off about me like that, what am I gonna just figure it out? Where plan is fucking working. She wants to meet you. She wants to meet you. She wants to meet you. And she knew the only way she could meet you

was by talking shit. Oh, no. She's chiquity, you're brilliant. I just, the character, the person that she, the character, the person she, and I hear, I'm, of all people, everybody knows who this is shown, including this person,

that I give two shits, okay? About what people think about me. But when someone describes, is describing my character, like she was just doing right now. And when the things that she's talking about, what it represents, I feel like I don't ever want to represent any of those things whatsoever.

I don't want to be that guy. And the fact that somebody could actually not but one, but two, but four different things of like characters, characteristics that I feel like I'm not that guy. It pains me because I wish that person could get to know me as a person. And you know, maybe I remind that person of somebody else who's like what they're describing, whatever, but I tell you right now, like that's not the type of person I am. Like, no, absolutely not. And let's keep in mind. I guess that's why we find it a little bit comical

Yeah, because it's completely ridiculous And we and I think most people don't share that same view like it because they do know you because you do Express yourself in a way that that I mean is genuine. Well, you know what it is here in the three of us are guilty of this we We take something that's kind of like that people poke at, and then we blast it out there, almost like self-depreciating humor. Yeah. So I'm gonna push the nerd thing more than I normally would

because fuck it, whatever. You know, it's funny, I think it's hilarious. Look, and look, you guys keep telling me to talk more about politics, it's not, I fuck, I'm gonna tell you guys right now, and the reason why I push back is because you wanna see people get pissed off, you keep getting me to talk about politics. Well, you know fuck, I'm gonna tell you guys right now, and the reason why I push back is because you wanna see people get pissed off, you keep getting me to talk about politics.

Well, you know, and I'm gonna get some hate. But here's the thing though, I love the reason why I continue to, because I know I'm a big part of the person who advocates you doing that. I keep continuing to push in that direction, it's because it's something that I like a lot about you. And I think that it's a very strong, unique quality that a lot of people, and I think that it tells the rest

of the story of you, and I think it's important that those that are listening get a chance to hear that. Just like when I got all crazy and deep about my childhood and stuff like that, I felt like that was important to share, to what's made me and the person that I am today. But, you know,

Well, that's also, be honest, we got a lot of listeners who wanna hear competition shit. Well, that's why we, and you're the only competitor in the room. I mean, if me and Justin were competitors, we would talk a lot about that shit also, but then the show wouldn't be very varied, right?

And you guys know how much I don't, I don't even give a shit about that stuff. We've talked about that before. No, but people constantly ask you about that. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And other people care more about my competition shit than I care about it.

So that's why I talk about it. The same reason why I take a bunch of fucking selfies in the mirrors now because I'm that type of guy either. I'm the most uncomfortable awkward thing for it. What we know is cool is if you're actually somebody who followed me before I was all fucking Instagram famous or whatever you wanna call it or had a mind pump radio show that I'm on,

before all that should happen, the people that were with me at the very beginning got to see me actually reveal that and talk about that. I have my normal guy and I'm gonna try and get into this competing world. I gotta learn how to pose. I want to show you guys the progress that I do. So I'm gonna take pictures of myself the exact same way every single time You think I wake up in the morning? I go I can't wait to take a picture of myself in the morning and send it to the world Like I don't give a fuck about that shit. It's not me. Is that bad? Is that bad?

You know, I'll build the thing like that. But you're getting away from the fact that you're a handsome guy. He's going on here. Listen to me. Okay, I just hyped myself up as being the duff, you know what I'm saying? Like, like whatever, like, let's even throw it out there. Dude, like, what's going on here?

I'm that guy. I'm like, I don't give a fuck, dude, bring it on. You know, bring the heat talk shit Whatever let's just bring yourself is the duck dude. It's the duck Down here to party definitely guys. I'm here with the handsome guys. Let's let's get down You know I don't give a fuck designated ugly fat friend Descending ugly fat friend Bro, I'm just trying to keep real did it. I'm gonna have to use a star wars reference No, you know, I have so much confidence. I was never even phased me

You know, you know, I mean like he is extremely I do appeal to quite a you know selective type of a Female and I know that and I've always been fine with that You know what I'm saying that I've done well for myself Dude you're like confident. He's got a gorgeous gorgeous. Get a hot wife Yeah, I remember the day that he when he met her the very for I knew I was just like dude Just guys getting it up marrying this girl I knew it It was that was and I pursued it and it made it happen and you know what I'm saying like I'm a

I was and I pursued it and it made it happen and you know, I'm saying like I'm a cold. I'm a go get I had to say though. I'm you know, I'd not that I want this to happen either one of you, but I'm you know, looking forward to the first time somebody writes some me. Yeah, dude, that was like, there's like a large. Yeah, we let's be honest here. We have 130 some reviews. Of course, all but two were good until that one right there. And so everybody said, Rance and Raeaves about us, but we definitely haven't had anybody single us out about not liking us. Even when they don't like us, it's collectively. Are you inviting?

I thought you were inviting that shit. Okay, you guys want to make some comments about my, you know, I'm okay on this side. I want to be on the show and like and I just, I just, we all have different, we all have different personalities with it. So it will be, it will be unique because I just I We all have different by we all have different personalities with it So it'll be it will be unique because I know the day will come when we have to deal with more and more of that stuff Yeah, I just feel like that's the first one that I got that's the first one that somebody's like came after my character It's tough and and and really could not be as far away from who I am and who I believe I am and who I I try to Gross a person like I talk about growth and being a better person all the time.

And like I hear that shit and I go like fuck I ain't growing at all. I fucking sucks. Well maybe your muscles are depleted. Maybe I need a car, but we should do it. Are we doing a base off of that? Can we, I'm sorry, I need to hear a little bit more about your macro breakdown. Right now, right now. Are we doing a Q&A, Doug? Oh yeah. We should. I'm sorry. I need to hear a little bit more about your macro breakdown Are we doing a Q&A Doug? Oh, yeah, we should we should do all right Let's do let's do let's get to real work. All right, so Q&A first question is from oh, this is take a deep breath

This is from a forum member Ali you guys know Ali. She's the she's awesome on she's on the forum She's hilarious everybody loves her. She's like trying to rival our wit. Yeah, you know stop it She would make a shoot I think she'd be hilarious on the show, she's hilarious, everybody loves her. She's like trying to rival our wit, so stop it. She would make a shoot out of it. I think she'd be hilarious on the show. She's funny. She's one of our lady woods. So her question is, why do some body parts build better, or I guess, faster or better than others?

I guess I could start. You have, everybody has a genetic kind of their genes determine how fast their muscles grow or how big they get or how strong they are. Well if you break that down, it also gets localized. So I might have, you know, great overall muscle building genetics, but I might have amazing quad building genes and really bad chest building genes. There's a lot of things that, a lot of factors that go into that. And I'll use myself as an example. Nothing on my body responds like my legs, like my upper legs.

My legs just grow by themselves. I could literally, if I wanted to add an inch on them, within the next few weeks, just by focusing on it. My chest grows slowly. It's notorious for that. And It takes me forever to grow. And there's a lot of different reasons why everything from muscle attachments to bone structure, but on a more deeper level, there's things like muscle fiber density. You could have more muscle fibers in a particular muscle than in another muscle. And since we don't really build

extra muscle fibers, or at least we don't do so on a drastic level, if you're born with a really high density of muscle fibers in one particular muscle, even though that muscle might be small, before you train it, when you go to lift it, the response is going to be that much faster. Of course, we all know about calves. Caves are kind of like the notorious muscle group for a lot of people. But then some people just build calves. Justin does that. Dugs like that.

I don't think dugs, I've never trained you. When you were my client, we never did calves because your calves just, they grew on their own. The goal was always to build up your upper legs, your quads. Muscle fiber density, I guess you could look at satellite cell recruitment or satellite cell density. The ability to recruit the muscle fibers when you're doing an exercise. I don't know. I guess there's, I guess those are most the factors I can think of.

I don't know. What do you guys think? Do you guys have muscle? What are muscle muscles on you guys that grow? How about you Adam like that? What mom trying to think how I how I can talk about this without talking about myself Having a real hard time I know it's why I need to talk to my that's why I'm really having a hard time right now I'm like how do I talk about this about talking about myself right now? I don't want to sound like I'm trying to use this

myself right now. I don't want to sound like I'm trying to use this. It's supposed to be about. It's, it's, this is it. I'm just a platform. That's just the fuck you. That's how I felt right there. Okay. So I actually talked about, I actually talked about this on my pariscope the other day. And I, I simplified it, but a totally 100% agree with what Sal was talking about. I mean, at the end of the day, it's genetics.

Genetically, we, we all are going to have more dominant areas. You're going to have areas that are just naturally grow and respond very well to whatever it is. You do it to it. You're going to have other areas that are going to be stubborn. Now, in general, like Salasan, you have muscles like your abdominal area, your calves. These are comprised typically. You have a lot more fast twitch fibers in those areas than you do in other areas of your body which can require or can handle more of a beating. Therefore, it might take more of a beating in the gym to get them to respond and grow. But that's not what everybody like you said. Some people touch their calves and start working them out and they explode right away.

People like me, trained them three to five times a minimum a week just to get to the barely respond. And it's, you know, so everyone is different. And I, you know, what I talked about was, when you are trying to shape a physique, so I, this is not sports performance, this is an overall health, this is the person, male or female that wants to be more aesthetic, you know, designing a program based around your weaknesses. So, and I gave the example that last week, I trained legs three times, I trained chest and back twice, and I trained shoulders once, and I didn't train arms at all. So, technically, today, when I come to work out, I should be either on arms, or I should be maybe on shoulders, and I did those once

last week for the typical, the way most people I think would design a program, but my arms and my shoulders are both strengths of mine and my legs are inferior and so are my calves. So what I was doing legs today with Justin, even though I did them three times last week because it's a lagging part on my body. You motherfuckers worked out again. That's shit.

Something's going on. He had a moment without you. I have yet to, all right. That's all right. Continue. I kind of pass you guys around. You notice that? So this was my recommendation to somebody who was fighting

over me who was asking about lagging body parts was in my experience what has helped me balance that out more or get those to develop. It's just quite frankly frequency is adding that much more frequency to that. And, you know, we've talked about over training before, you're not going to over train it. So if you really, really want to bring those calves up,

train them three times, then four times, then five times, then six times, then seven times a week. If they can handle it, then train them. Because eventually they'll adapt and grow because we have all that frequency. But they may take that, you take that in comparison to your chest that takes once a week and it grows. Everyone's different. Yeah, I would say from my own simplistic variation

of that, it's genetics. It's also recruitment patterns. So we talked a little bit about that where you establish certain neuromuscular pathways that serve like movements, very specific movements to what you do on a regular basis. And so you're basically creating these patterns that your muscles are going to respond to. And therefore, you're going to need more recruitment, and you're going to build more muscle based off of like, so for instance, saying I'm a piano player, and I'm

constantly pounding on the piano, and I just do this year after year after year after year. You know, I'm going to have a pretty strong grip. I'm a pretty strong forum. So there's an element of that, but then there's also the genetic element where people like, you know, myself or whoever, I have certain calves that I really don't do a whole lot and they're just there. And if I do work them, they get huge, or like my legs do the same thing, my chest, but I basically have like a specific length tension relationship because also my frame, so you know, how long my bones are.

You know, that's how responsive my muscles are gonna be based on that. Can I nerd that down for a second and give everyone an example of something like what you might see in the gym? Sure. So you got a guy who has been doing his own thing training himself, he's been bench pressing for years and years, he's 10 years in a bench pressing or whatever. And he has these massive triceps. And yet,

he looks like when he bench presses, he has pretty good form. Well, when Justin's talking about the Neuro Pathways and creating, basically what someone like that could have created for themselves is the ability to utilize more of their triceps than the average person would when bench pressing therefore his triceps need to be end up being more developed and then that causes this imbalance of the body or this look like that is different even though that guy benches and does shoulders and buys and tries like everybody else

but because his recruitment pattern, let's say the average person, let's just say for hypothetical reasons, this is a fact that when you bench press, 80% of it is your chest, and 20% of it is divided up in your auxiliary muscles, your triceps being one of those. But when this guy bench presses,

he is utilizing, you know, 40% of his triceps and 60% of his chest when he's doing it, which is now caused that recruitment for that tricep to really kick in. And now you see that development on his body because of it, which in his eyes, he just thinks he's got these super strong triceps, but he actually has this recruitment pattern that's different that's now caused his body

to help out like that. And of course, you could always prioritize. So I've had clients, female clients in particular, who tend to focus on this a little bit, but they'll say something like my hamstrings. My hamstrings don't develop as well as my quads. So nine at a 10 times when people start a leg workout, they start with quads, they'll start with squats, which squats does hit the hamstrings, but it's more of a quad-dominant exercise.

So I'll have them hit their hamstrings for an exercise or two, and then we'll go to squats, kind of pre-fetigue that muscle. So you also can prioritize. And then it establishes more of a connection there that's stronger going into the next lift. It does, and then of course, there's a super set where you can pre-exhaust the muscle and so here's the last difference. Here's another example that I can tell about myself is that, you know, I told you that before that. You're going to happen the whole episode of the fun. Yeah, bro.

You know, so what I like to do when I work out is I, you know, I told you before, because I want to develop my quads more. I told you that what I'll do is I'll go over pre-exhaust on lay extensions because I have, I'm more glued dominant my squat and. I told you that what I'll do is I'll go over pre-sauce on lay extensions because I have more glue Dominate my squat and I get a lot of I talked about that Well it was talking shit, but lovely shit I was saying you could tell I was all backhanded compliments. I was saying you could tell he's strong Oh, that's why I said you could always tell when someone's strong because I'll have developed Glutes right even if they're legs Adam's the ass bitch So you pre-exhaust your closet. Yeah, you know, I feel that he stares at our asses a lot

Fucking creepy, you know, but we get so we get very gay on the show, which is hilarious. That's what it is. I do all in love. I've been doing occlusion on my upper leg. I just started doing that this week. Oh, okay. We'll see what happens. Okay, nice.

I'm curious for you, especially since there was development, you get your flaws, but. I wanna see what happens. All right, let's move to the next question. This is from another forum member, Fit Chris 86. How did, okay, so this was for Justin, this was specifically excuse me, directed at you bud. Oh, is this the first? Yeah, yeah. I just wanted to point that out. How did you go from a guy that wasn't good at sales and small talk to setting records

and sales? Wow, I like that question. It's something that wasn't easy for me, you know, coming in. And I did have a little bit of that established, I would say, more just from doing bartending a little bit and a little bit of being a waiter, you kind of have to like, you have X amount of time with these people and you got to kind of bring something up out of the air. So I started getting more into sports, I started getting more into like local events and just normal kind of random conversation type stuff. And this is where my hijacking skills came in. If you guys didn't notice, I'm kinda like the guy in the background has like 10 liners. I'm good for like little bits of talking. It's the long periods of talking stuff. I'm really,

you know, having a hard time. You can tell right now. I kind of lose. Hey, let's just don't worry. We got your back. I lose my train of thought in a matter of like don't worry. I'm gonna tell you a minute. I'll find a reason why we can talk about myself. We'll come back to you. We'll come back to you guys in your can. You can get your quads. It always saves me. Yeah. I'm just bringing that up.

So you'll say something that I can spray for myself. I haven't even answered the question yet. So basically what happened was, okay, I wasn't, I would, well, and that's an opinion, by the way, that I wasn't good at sales because I was pretty fucking good at sales. It was just the fact that it didn't look like I was good at sales. So you weren't selling. No, no, no, no, that wasn't why. I was selling. They just

didn't know why yet, right? You had to figure it out. And it's just been my personality is that I'm very, and I'll be honest, I'm very good at listening. And when when people think that I'm being quiet and I might be reserved or You know, he's really same much and what what point does he have on the show and what what a? Can we make this about me now? Okay, I just had to throw that out there because good basically felt better anyways I'm not done talking yet by a wet nausea Wouldn't that be rad if I just turn into that guy. God, I forgot what I was talking about. So you guys give me like two more minutes.

Just so major. I think you want us to know when you saw your skills go to where you started setting records at 24 or so. Thank you. So basically what happened was like, I knew that I'd established these relationships with clients and it was the person to person stuff I was really good at. I wasn't good at being charismatic and being very outgoing and aggressive in grabbing people

and making a deal. I've always been about quality. If anybody knows me, that's something that, whether it's anything I get my hands in, if I get my hands in, it turns into this battle of, is it good enough? You know, it was what I'm doing good enough. And that was me on the podcast. You know, that was me as a trainer. That was me, you know, trying to make any project I've been a part of. I just, I immediately take responsibility. So, were you just became an expert at building relationships? I just became an expert at building relationships, rapport, and then I got more and more comfortable

because my clients talk so highly of me to feel confident in the fact that I was giving good service. And so therefore, the fact that I built more confidence intrinsically, it gave, I started to exude that more. And so that, that sort of confidence just spread. Let me ask you this, that when you started as a trainer, were you, how long, I don't know, how many months or whatever do you think it did take before you were like one of the top trainers?

Well, I guess you'd ask Adam that, right? I mean, I feel like, I mean, I don't know if you guys remember, I was part of the club. I remember, yeah, as far as like an actual time. How long were you over at Hillsdale for? Yeah. Before we went over to the club.

Oh, we were there for maybe a month and then we switched. So within the, I think by the time he, probably the three month mark, because by the time it took him just to build his business, that's what I would say three months. Once he had got enough clientele to, because obviously you can't compare him

in the first month when you have six clients and then the guy who's like a poly, especially the staff that he came into. So Justin was a part of, in my opinion, for 10 years, I was a manager in leading trainers, the most talented staff that I had ever been a part of or built, however you want to look at it. And he, so he definitely had some badass peers

around him for sure. And so for him to be rivaling and outperforming those guys, it took him at least to get enough people to where he could do. But once he had done that, once he had his schedule full and he had them in the clients, I don't, I can't remember too many months where somebody outperformed him or I'll sold him. Because I'm consistent. And very consistent too.

He wasn't, you know, I was probably more known for humongous this way than kind of swinging back down a little bit humongous and swinging back down. Justin was like always just a step ahead of everybody and always consistent, you know. I've noticed there's two kinds, and you got, I'm sure you can probably back me on this, but I've noticed there's different kinds of salespeople, but you can kind of generally break them down

into two categories. On one side, you have the, the naturals, the guys that come in, they tend to be the more charismatic, they tend to be a little louder, they tend to come in and boom right off the bat. And then you've got the other guys that kind of come in and like Justin, put their head down, get, you know, start working, start learning

and then are consistent and also kick ass. But it's just two different general styles that I've tend to always see. And there's pluses of minuses to eat to both sides. You know, the charismatic, high energy guys, you gotta keep them pumped all the time. When I have guys like that working for me, we can fucking throw big numbers out. However, they respond to passion,

they respond to intensity, they respond to pressure, they respond to excitement, and you to pressure, they respond to excitement, and you gotta keep that shit up all the time. Otherwise, you'll notice that they'll get lazy or bored. Yeah. Because I don't know if it's because, and I don't know if it's because they tend to take advantage of the fact that they know they can turn it on whenever they want

or whatever, but that tends to be the downside. Then with the consistent guys, there's more training involved. They're not going to be able to just pull shit out of their ass. However, on a consistent basis, they'll perform very, very strongly. Yeah. And it tends to break down those two categories if I'm correct, if I'm wrong. No, I think that's a, I mean, fuck, that's a great way to probably break up. Especially if you're comparing two successful talents, because we could probably dissect

every shit, but in all different reasons why they are. But if you take your top producers and are that that most successful trainers and you were to divide them into different categories, I'd absolutely think that. I think that, you know, Justin, you could always tell that Justin was like that too, because like we'd have, you know,

I had a lot of meetings with my trainers, you know, and a lot of them were motivational. Some of them was educational. Some was just check up on what they were all doing. Numbers wise, it's not. But, you know, like he said, he wasn't one to always be talking, talking, talking there. You could always see that he was,

he's listening to everything I'm saying. And you could tell too, I could always tell would, he's listening to everything I'm saying, but maybe not all of it even agrees with, you know. Like, you know what I mean, there's things, okay. I like that, or I'll use that. And you would, you know, like, you know, I mean, there's just, there's things, okay, I like that or I'll use that. And you would always, he was that guy who he would never say anything. He would just do it.

He'd do his thing and you would see sometimes that he utilized some of the things that you've talked about or there's things that he created on his own and did better, you know. And that's why you never had to manage or lead someone like that. You just let, you'd let turn them loose, you know. So, you know what, I just thought of right now because we're talking about sales and, and, and fitness, you know what movie I just watched again. I love this fucking movie the other day. Wolf of Wall Street.

Oh yeah. Okay. When he's giving those sales meetings and just tell me that doesn't remind you of back in the day when he was doing the penny stocks. Just the meetings in front of the skies and yelling at him and dying on the mic and getting crazy. I mean, that's way more extreme. We didn't have like, you know, crazy, you know, we didn't have hookers and clowns and shit happening.

Yeah, little people flying. Yeah, but it was, but it did not remind you. Oh, yeah. Because I used to have sales meetings, bro. Where it just was crazy in that freaking room, man. Yeah. It was, it was a good time. Well, and you're, I think you and I are more like like that, which is also, see,

I recognize that, you know, from Justin a long time ago, which is why our business relationship works so well is because although both very, very strong and dominate in our industry for different reasons. And I've always felt like, you know, where my weaknesses are his strengths and vice versa. So it was always a great blend, you know. And I remember when we first started and we've had people talk

about that before, like even this last, you know, message like, you know, you know, Justin talked more and out of shut his mouth type of deal. Like, well, a lot of people don't realize this Justin, just like you just heard him a few minutes ago, like that's not, that's never been our relationship. Yeah, that's not, that's not my style. I'm, and I know that like even Craig and we were first to get started like, I mean, he had some issues with that.

Like, was trying to kind of coach up our personalities and like, I'm like, listen, like, how we just, yeah, it's not how it works. Like, I mean, it's to have an actual conversation with you guys. And I do exactly what I would do in a real conversation, which is I listen, and then I contribute when I feel like I have weight in the conversation, or I feel like there's a moment that I can add something to have it travel better. And so I know I'm very much a team player. That's always been my role throughout my whole life. And I work hard as shit.

As far as the way that my tactics may be different, my deliveries definitely different. But people see, I think the people that respond to me like as far as sales goes, they just see that there's 100% zero bullshit behind anything that I'm selling somebody. And that's why this show works so great because it's like, yeah, you know, this is a platform now where we can like

cut through all this fat. And like there's always been this demand for that, I feel. Well, I think your approach, your approach does not seem bullshitty. Whereas, mere Adam might come in and although we also are not bullshitting. Whereas, mere Adam might come in, and although we also are not bullshitting. No, not, no. But some people I can guarantee you, some people are either gonna hear me the first time

and be like, this guy. Oh, no, of course. Well, listen to that, this is a smooth talk. Listen to that, listen to that review. Somebody would, somebody actually thinks that, you know, this whole, this whole, this whole, oh, fuck yeah, we're gonna make this a do a drinking game. Fuck it.

We're bringing it in. How is this at a review? I'm gonna reference the review. I'm not gonna stop. We're gonna stop it. I'm gonna stop it so she leaves another review talking more shit. It says, how about do I, I'm gonna, you more, even more. Oh shit.

No, but, you know, it's like, this is how I feel. I love sports analogies, you know, we all are huge team players and we all have different roles at different times. You know, Doug's the manager back there making these calls. He's not always, he's not the line light. He's not the one scoring the runs out there and stuff like that.

He doesn't get all the glory like we do because we're on the mic and he's quiet all the time. But by golly, if we didn't have that manager there's no way this team works. You know, Justin a lot of times is the catcher, he's behind the mountain, he's calling the game. He makes the fucking decision on a lot of things, that a lot of people don't realize,

and it has a lot of power and everything like that. But because I'm standing up on the mountain, and I'm throwing the ball to him, all the pressure's on me, and if I fuck and fuck up the slightest bit, shit, I'm the fucking worst guy or what about that, right? Well, that's my role right now, like sometimes, I was supposed to talk about myself.

You're the right-handed picture, and sounds the left-handed picture, right? Well, that's my role right now. Like sometimes I was supposed to talk about myself. You're the you're the right-handed picture and South is the left-handed picture. Yeah. It's happening simultaneously and I'm trying to catch both bottles. Waiting the face. That's where the best analogy is. Hold on a sec. Right? You're the catcher. No, no, no, no. I didn't say that on the bottom. I didn't say that I was a bottom. My next question. I just had clarity. Move your long count. Move your next question. You guys are just jerking off on the mound Right now I would that's actually pretty good but both left-handed right-handed pitchers you're catching over there We got the manager over here All right, so next question so first this is from Alan wrench. Is that 89 89?

How do we address people clients with body image issues? This is a great fucking question, because if you're a trainer, if you're in the industry, is he a trainer, do you know? I don't know. Probably because he's asking this like from a trainer point of view. This is a great question because if you're a trainer, you are going to encounter people with body image issues and be sensitive to them. Yeah, and it don't be an issues. And be sensitive to them. And yeah, and it, don't be an asshole. And it's not me. And it's not the minority. You're a good chunk of your clients will have some kind

of body image issue. And by the way, I'm going to go ahead and go out there and say 100% of them, bro. Well, I'll say this. I'll say this right now. Definitely most people in the fitness industry are just going to say the reason why I'm a body image issue.

The reason why I was going gonna say the reason why I'm a body image is the reason why I was gonna say that and is Most trainers, you know what what motive it is originally to be and we've talked about this before the podcast Why we're such so fanatical about it is that we had some of the biggest insecurities when it comes to our physics And still are you know still our self-conscious of certain body parts or what that said We have probably the most most issues with body which means we should also be able to relate to those people. Being sensitive to them, so here's what I do. First and foremost, when I have a client that comes in with body image issue, and these are the glaring ones.

Everybody has some kind of insecurity, but I'm talking about the glaring ones, where they come in and they're like, okay, I want to work out every day with you, and I'm not going to eat anymore, and I'm going to super extreme ideas. I talked that first of all, you have to build trust in them and you need to be open and outright about it.

I mean, when I say open, I mean be clear about it and tell them, you know, Mrs. Johnson, you hired me. I'm gonna ask you to trust me. I need you to trust me right now. And I promise you, if you trust me now, I'll never have to ask for it again. Just trust me right now and follow what I'm saying. I'm going to tell you right now, I want you to work out less. I want to, I'm going to tell you right now, I want you to stop trying to run every

day. I want you to not eat only a thousand calories a day because these are the things you're going to encounter with your client. And you're going to tell them, before we go anywhere, I want to get your body healthy and And we wanna look at your strength. We wanna look at your endurance. When you focus on performance with people with body image issues, you take their mind off of how they look and they start to focus on how they feel and how they perform.

And when you can get them to focus on how they feel and how they perform, it's kinda hard to be extreme with your diet and your workout and get stronger, get more endurance and feel better. You tend to feel shittier when you do those types of things. So I focus on performance and stuff like, oh look, you're stronger. Wow, you were able to go on cardio for 30 minutes instead of 20.

Or maybe there's someone that over works out all the time. So now they're working out less and I'm asking, how was your sleep? Wow, look at the color in your face. You've got better color. You look like you have more energy. You look like you're, how are your sleep? Wow, look at the color in your face, you've got better color. You look like you have more energy. You look like you're, how are you feeling? Because I've had clients that'll do this,

they'll come in and I'll tell them to stop working out so much. And then they'll come see me and be like, so I actually have a client right now that I'm working with who, she's not quite in this category, but it's similar. And she came to me and I had her cut her exercise way back because she was just fucking going crazy with it. I think she did some metabolic damage too

in the beginning. And she came up to me and she's like, okay, Sal, I'm doing everything you're telling me. We've been doing it now for about 45 days. And, you know, I've only lost two pounds. And so then I look at her and I say, okay, so what you're telling me is you're working out way less than before.

You're eating more. And not only did you not gain weight, you've lost two pounds. So all I did is I took what she told me, and I changed the paradigm of it. I took it and I fed it back to her. And now she, and at that point she realized, holy shit, I didn't get fatter.

Now that I'm working out half as much, I didn't gain weight, I feel better, and I still lost two fucking pounds. Yeah, yeah. This is working. And so we've changed that paradigm. And so now, and I'm building that trust, so now she'll understand, be able to follow what I'm saying.

So that's my thing on it. That's a great point. It reminds me of when we were talking about how we address that, you know, with our kids and stuff, and how we redirect that mentality, which is really all, you know, how our kids and stuff and how we redirect that mentality, which is really all, you know, how I would see that immediately if somebody coming in that has issues that they, a lot of times I like to make light of it and make jokes about like certain body

parts or oh my god, and then they squeeze, you know, something on their body or whatever and I'm always just like stuff, stuff, stuff, stuff, you know, and I just try and redirect it, you know, the attention of all this negative stuff and all I'm like, look, you know, same thing. It's performance. It's how we want to feel, like how strong you want to be and, you know, how much endurance and energy and all these like positive things, which really is, it's just, it's a matter of the mind. It's tackling more adversity because what you're doing is,

now you're stepping into another thing that's like, takes work, it takes consistency, it takes stress, it takes, you know, it's hard. A lot of people are uncomfortable training, you know, so you don't like to sweat. All these other new factors that are going to go on that, you know, that's something that, you know, I tend to over generalize with them. And we've kind of talked about this before, how I've told you guys when I'm talking to somebody in a presentation where I'm talking to them, but I'm talking like as if I'm talking about people in general, but I'm really directing it towards them.

So I kind of over generalize a situation like that. So they feel more comfortable that it's very normal to have a body image or body issue images or body image issues because we all have, you know, and I think learning, learning that and understanding that and accepting it that that's just part of it and learning how to deal with that is better than pretending like you don't have it and suppressing it or making jokes about it, like Justin was saying to suppress it or make yourself feel better.

It's okay, except let's talk about some things we can do to help you in that area, right? And then I think letting them know that a majority of people are like this and understanding that, if you don't get to the root of everything, that never ends. I mean, you can see some of the fittest people you've ever met, they have the same body issues if not worse and more extreme.

Understanding that, like you said, going back to being over a healthy and really talking to them is that's more of a focus. When you start to feel better, you will see you'll start to look better. You've got to also accept that just because we lose your 15 pounds, don't think that issue goes away unless you work on that because that's something else. It's not like, oh, because you're 30 pounds overweight, you have this body image issue. That's something that we all battle with and we all struggle with and accepting it and understanding that we have it and learning to work through that and get better about it. That's a part of a relationship that you have with yourself.

That's something that I'll help you work on that as we're going through this together. But don't think just because we take off that 30 pounds, that goes away. That's not how that works. That's why you see people, even your men's physique and be keening people and stuff like that that still have these issues. I'll tell you something too. As a trainer, you have a very important role when it comes to this, because I've met countless people

who have very bad body image issues because of the trainers they worked with before. And you're so irritating. Yeah, so I guarantee you guys have seen the same thing. Yes. And as a trainer, it's very important you're smart about this. If you're doing this because you want to sculpt bodies and you want to get everybody as

fucking crazy as you are, then I'm going to tell you right now, don't be a trainer, please, do not ruin this industry because you're making things worse. Yeah. If I encounter trainers like that, I'll let them know that they're assholes. I don't, I wouldn't let them work for me. And I'll make sure not to let them, I'll make sure to take clients from them because you're doing people a harm. You might get someone ripped,

you might get someone to look a certain way, but you're causing some problems. And these people that later on end up leaving you and coming to people like me, and then I have to kind of help and reverse that situation. So as a trainer, you know, don't get caught on that. Your goal as a trainer is to make that person's life better. Yeah, I know they can make you lose weight or whatever, but in reality, they're coming

to you because they want to feel better. And the byproduct is the aesthetic and it's the, you know, it's the result of all that hard work that is really takes a long time to establish. So what better way to have a long period of retention and to make it enjoyable and focused on small incremental things that, you know, we'll do lots of great things. How many trainers tell their clients? I need you to stop doing cardio every day and I want you to just see me once or twice a week and then do like a meditation once a week.

Most trainers won't even do that. They're afraid, oh my god, if I tell my client to do that. I would. I've done it. I mean, I do it all the time. Yeah, or go home, or go rest. You know, today we're just gonna walk today. We're gonna walk and talk.

And get it. Yeah, it's funny because I saw this. I've never forget a long time ago. I remember some celebrity trainer and I remember him walking and talking with his client. And I remember this I never forget a long time ago. I remember some celebrity trainer And I remember him like walking and talking with his client and mirror was early on in my career And I was just like oh, that's so terrible. It's worthless. He's worthless, right? Like who might a judge? I don't know what's going on in her life What if she's like to see I mean she's obviously some millionaire on TV who's got this celebrity trainer

Who's training her so you know, maybe she is like that person we talked about that has slams herself seven days a week You know working 12 hours a day Maybe that is the best thing she could possibly do for herself is relapse take a deep breath, walk with her trainer, talk about her. He's just like hands on managing that. Yeah. He's just taking that on like sometimes we need to do that. You know, if if you have that kind of a client like that, I actually have that we literally go and those little parts where you're like, okay, now you're off on your own. Well, we've kind of scheduled, so you're not like completely it. We have a very important,

I mean, being a good trainer, it's a very important role in someone's life. I mean, let's break it down. This person is gonna see you between one to three days a week, every week for maybe years. They're gonna see you for an hour. They're gonna see you in workout clothes,

sweating, in pain, going through some of the hardest shit that they've gone through, because it's face it, getting in shape is very, very, very, very fucking difficult. The only people that find it enjoyable work in the fitness industry, most people hate it and it's hard. And they're gonna see you, this, they're gonna see you, this often, this this long doing these hard things for a while. You have a very important role.

You become very close to these people and you can move them in the right direction or the wrong direction. So it's a very, very important responsibility that you're taking upon yourself. Take it seriously. And you know, I look, I look, I look, I'm talking like there's, I know a lot of trainers and most trainers do, you know, take good responsibility and do care about their people. Well, you know, I think it's always important to talk about how the challenge of being that,

because I think one of the hardest things is, you know, because trainers know it's like to lose people that don't see the instant gratification and the results right away. And it's like, oh, because even though I know it's probably best for them to do this walk or do yoga or take a session back, that ends up hurting my pocketbook or they don't end up resigning with me because I didn't show them enough results and ten sessions. So this is also why, you know, and you can't be afraid to do this at the beginning. Maybe you can't be as aggressive as maybe as I am where I have like an actual minimum

contract. You cannot be with me for less than three months. I just, that's part of the deal. I won't take you unless you will at least commit to three months because I feel like, how can I really change this person's life in half a month, you know, or a couple visits? Like, I can barely, barely get across what my plan is in that time, much less, really teach them or help them. I need at least three months. So if you don't feel confident with least in that, at least laying out what your ideal plan for this person would be at the

very beginning, the more you can talk about things like this and be upfront and open about the possibility that, and this is stuff I would share is, hey, here's the plan, this is our goal, this is what we're trying to do, this is what you want to do, these are the things that are important that we accomplish, but I also want to prepare you for the possibilities. We may start off doing this diet and I might find out that you do have metabolic damage, and then now this may take a priority, and I'm going to do this. We may start off when we're going to do squats, I was planning on doing squats this day, dead lifts this day, and then we start doing squats, and I feel that you have all these deviations

going on, and now your program is going and I feel and you have all these deviations going on. And now your program is going to get hijacked by a whole recon working on your rehabbing your body and getting you just to be able to walk in squat normal, which I was not planning on doing until now. Just letting them know all that at the very beginning. So when these things do come up, it just shows, you know, one, how intelligent you are as a fitness trainer to foresee something that is happening. And then they also don't feel like you're switching shit up on them because whatever.

Well, the other thing too is that I'll, I'll, in the beginning, I never make it about the, and even though their goal might maybe weight loss, I never make it about the weight loss in the beginning. In the beginning, I celebrate the victories of correcting muscle imbalances. I celebrate the victories of, oh wow, you could do a full push up now, because even though Mrs. Johnson comes in and wants to lose 25 pounds,

and I know we're probably not gonna lose much in the first month, or first three months even. If I point out those other victories like, you know, she's able to walk faster or more, she's able to do a push up now, she's able to lift more weight here, her shoulders isn't hurting more, she's going to see the progress, she's going to want to continue working with me and I don't lose that client. So for those you afraid of losing clients because they're not losing weight right away, point out those other victories because a lot of other shit happens that has nothing to

do with weight loss in the very beginning. So one more question. This was a funny one. This was from coach, what is that? Coach and Strickler? Coach Strickler. He was asking about sleep eating

and how to overcome it. I don't really understand. So is he, yeah. So I asked, I followed up on him, because I was like, are you like literally sleepwalking and not knowing what you're eating? And he says he's conscious. He knows what he's eating. So he knows he's not, you know, he knows what foods he's choosing.

He's eating. So it's not like he's asleep and he's eating like this. He just was going for those, you know, cinnamon toast crunch. It sounds like he's going, well, he says, well, I don't blame him. I got it right here. Let me read it.

So, you know, Adam asked them basically, are you sleep walking into the kitchen and eating food in the middle of the night? And he said, his answer is basically yes. And then he then he goes into more detail, unintentionally waking from sleep and going into the kitchen to eat in a subdued state of consciousness,

but definitely aware of my actions. So it's a little confusing to me, but it sounds like he's half asleep. Right. And he's not 100% in control. He's kind of like zombified going into the kitchen and eating. Did you ever see like a hypnotherapist or something?

I don't know. It screams like some weird like, curses, something. Sleep eating is a real, there's a real medical diagnosis for that. Yeah, no, I've seen that before. I've seen documentaries. People will sleep sex though,

like wake up in the middle of night or, or not be awake, but they'll like, you know, wake up and be unconscious and then like have sex with their spouse and then, no, there was one guy I was reading this article about where he would say his wife would wake up

and have the freakiest, like, like, the stuff that she would never do. She's like on top and she's like This is crazy, but I'm gonna go for it. I can't I'm scared so I would work it if I were you coach Strickler I would have I would try and go to a sleep specialist. What they'll do is they'll have you sleep in the observe you to see what's going on. You could have a type of sleep disorder where you are partially awake but unconscious where you're doing things and you can be doing a lot more than just eating.

I have a, I have, okay. So did you look at this guy's Instagram? He's doing push-ups when he's sleeping. He's like fit. Yeah, he's older too. He's not Leon, he's older gentleman. He's got to be in his late 30s, early 40s, maybe even older, right?

Yeah. And he's ripped. He's single-digit body fat. So what might be happening, he is just, he may have just trained himself to have this roaring appetite in the middle of the night. And it's not, he's not eating enough calories to the day. No, think about this. I mean, he's, if he's keeping that body fat percentage and he's doing that, he's obviously not over consuming of what his body needs.

He's, he's, he's utilizing most calories. So even though he's, he's claiming he's getting up and he's eating, you know, some of these foods that are not ideal. So they're high calorie foods. You're talking about it sounds like thousand, thousand plus calories, maybe two thousand calories in the middle of the night. You're consuming, which means he can't be eating more than another thousand to two thousand in the middle of the day, or he's got some serious activity going. So he's probably under feeding himself in the daytime. Well, yeah, that's a good question find out how, you know, how many calories he actually can himself in the daytime. Well, yeah, that's a good question. Find out how, you know, how many hours he actually can see

throughout the day. I would be interested in that, but I would also be interested like getting observed. Oh, yeah, yeah. That's kind of a, if you have a real sleep, sleep video, I think you should have looked at, but I mean, because I asked him a few was on any meds, sleep meds, and he said, no, because I do know that there's been instances

where people will take like, I'm just going gonna throw out a random sleep drug like ambien Not that this happened with ambien, but where people will take a sleep medication And then they'll do that where they'll wake up at the moment and do all kinds of crazy shit and not realize it like yeah people driving around Their cars and going to the mall and the pajamas and weird shit. I think it would be just so so tiger wood didn't tiger woods take like a Didn't take yeah, take a bunch of women like Take some sleep pills and then get in trouble Yeah, they like try to stay awake and then like total conspiracy Not make a prize Bill Cosby

Okay, no, no bill I think you would put them to sleep for real No, I thought Tiger Woods is like He would take like a Lunesta or something and then they like stay awake And then apparently you get like a Weird high state and they'd have sex with hookers and shit. Oh cool. Let's guess fear Tiger yeah, I think I think the dude the dude is that ripped and he's doing that consistently

You're doing it. You're doing right. Yeah, well, I mean obviously your body can handle those calories You know, so my guess would be that he's probably he pound in those red velvet. Yeah, I guess. To the morning. I mean, if you read it the way I read it, it sounds like he's consuming probably a thousand bus calories a day, which means he's got to be. Yeah, because he listed all the food.

Yeah, he listed types of foods. They're not low calorie foods. They're all high calorie foods that he's snacking on. Home is peanut butter and jelly cereal. I mean, that's some, that's some serious. Yeah, he's like, he's like peanut butter, chips, how miss cereal, whatever, no moderation. Just like.

And no more, I mean, he does it. And he says back to bed with the, my face with a full tummy, quickly asleep. He wakes up and repeats in two hours. See, he's just not even getting real sleep. And he's jacked, bro. So all it is, he's the most as calories going to sleep. And he's brain. Under all that, he's got to be under reading the rest of the day. You said he looks kind of old. What if he's like 21?

We're like, oh, fuck, it's the lack of sleep, bro. No, he's got, he's got, he's in his 30s. He's got to be two kids. Yeah, he's got at least 30s. I looked at him. He's got to be at least 30s. He's like mid 30s, probably. So, I mean, you're in your mid 30s like that. He's obviously not some little 20 year old spring chicken. He's got a freaking ripped physique. So the dude is I mean, he's not overeating. I'll tell you that right now. He's whatever he's doing in the middle of the night. It's still not overeating because he's not getting fat from it.

Why can't I wake up from the crime? It's probably. Oh shit. That's what he's trying to like. That's true. He's trying to subtly be like, hey guys, I'm a superhero. Right. Why can't I just- Why can't I just-

I'm not gonna totally tell you exactly, you know, what I'm capable of, but I'm rip. I love how Justin's mind works. You know, I'm very active. You know, I eat whatever I want, whatever. I kind of make, you know, all these plans in the middle of the night and I find myself in places. It's so strange.

It's like, why can't I make up all these badges? I wish I could wake up in the middle of the night and do cardio for fuck's act. That'd be great. Right. Oh, I did like an hour cardio last night, but I'm just doing the whole time. I do know it. I do know it. I do know it.

I do know it. It holds in my arm. It would explain why he's so ripped, too. That's what I'm saying, man. There is a very he could be Batman he's Batman or well basically your Batman we just figured you out the Iron Man and come out with it. All right Adam we'll see you later bro. Yeah yeah all right take it easy man Thursday right yeah we'll meet Thursday all, hold on, wait for him to leave. All right, are we recording, Doug? Yeah, we're recording. All right, listen, listeners.

So Adam's really, he's really butt hurt over that review. That's a little, that was a little uncomfortable. Yeah, I think he might be crying. Yeah. So listeners, go on to iTunes. What you do is you got, even if you're, if you're subscribed, you have to do this process. If you're not, do on to iTunes. What you do is you got, even if you're subscribed, you have to do this process.

If you're not, do this process also. Go to iTunes, go to the search function, Enter Mind Pump. When it pops up, click on the icon, then there'll be a section where you can add a review. It'll be reviews. Add a review. Right.

Please add a five star review and say something nice about it. Yeah, let's kind of... Because he's really crap. Pump him up right now. I feel like I feel like all the reviews should be like, please tell us more about macros and physique competition. Yeah, like very important things like that. So I like hearing about we can redirect the attention.

I like hearing about how fully we can puff this ego. Oh, yeah. Yeah, we need to ego guys get that shit ego Let's it crush you guys not like our dynamic. Yeah, come on You guys not like with chemistry. Are you trying to extract a component to our compound? We need it We need it. I need him. We need it to be even bigger now We want him to come in here massive head ready to fucking blow up. Yeah, that's the best way to do it. It has to be ridiculous. So like you guys have to tell him like how awesome he is. Like, leave some awesome stuff.

No, no, every subject. Tell all your friends to do it, go to iTunes. Please. Leave a shitload of reviews. You know, maybe we'll give the, maybe we'll, you know what, we'll give something else out. Let's give some shit away to the best one. Maybe a naked pick of him, we always promise it.

Yeah. Yeah, we promise that, but maybe we can deliver on a t-shirt for the best. All right, all right. At some point, I want a naked picture of Adam t-shirt made. Right? So like a t-shirt with a naked picture of him? Like, yeah. It would be a long shirt, though.

We might have to blur, big blur. I think we didn't make a one-z. A one-z? That's even better, I did. He's make a one-Z. One-Z. That's an even better idea. He's coming back up. Shut it down. Until next time, this is MindPump.