Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1334: How to Lose Stubborn Belly Fat, the Best Use of Fitness Trackers, Eating for Your Blood Type & More

Episode Date: July 11, 2020

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about shedding the last few pounds of body fat in order to see abs,  thoughts on fitness trackers, eating for your blood... type, and what makes them most proud to be an American. A new tool for your tool. (4:41) Blood thinners and coronavirus. (12:18) Are Americans losing the allure of living in a city? (15:45) Alcohol consumption’s correlation to the increase in gun sales. (21:08) Bankruptcy casualties. (28:57) Sex in the COVID-19 era. (31:24) The detrimental effects of shelter in place on our loved ones. (33:54) Parler, not so unbiased media. (40:20) #Quah question #1 – I have been in a deficit for many weeks and have been seeing results, but I can’t seem to shed the last few pounds of body fat to see my abs. Where do I go from here? (43:22) #Quah question #2 – What are your thoughts on fitness trackers? How do you think they are best used? (48:25) #Quah question #3 – Any thoughts on eating for your blood type? (57:51) #Quah question #4 – What makes you most proud to be an American? (1:04:32) Related Links/Products Mentioned July Promotion: MAPS Strong ½ off!! **Promo code “STRONG50” at checkout** Shockwave Therapy for Erectile Dysfunction: Does It Work? Baxter India's oXiris gets approval for treatment of COVID-19 patients: Here's how blood purification therapy could help with symptoms Visit Butcher Box for this month’s exclusive Mind Pump offer! Are you moving to another city? Tell us your story Research Tentatively Links COVID-19 Gun Sales Spike To Increased Violence Visit ZBiotics for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Sex and the coronavirus: How to stay safe while getting intimate Weight Loss 101: What You Can Start Doing Daily To Help – Mind Pump Blog How Phasing Your Workouts Leads to Consistent Plateau Free Workouts – Mind Pump Blog Mind Pump #1095: How To Break Through A Plateau No BS 6-Pack Abs | MAPS Fitness Products Unplugged: Evolve from Technology to Upgrade Your Fitness, Performance, & Consciousness – Book by Dr. Andy Galpin Mind Pump Podcast - YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Andy Galpin (@drandygalpin)  Instagram

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Starting point is 00:00:00 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. Mite, op, mite, op with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this episode of Mind Pump, the World's Top Fitness Health and Entertainment Podcast, we answer fitness and health questions that are asked by listeners just like you. But the way we open the episode is with an introductory portions, where we talk about current events. We mentioned scientific studies.
Starting point is 00:00:29 Sometimes we talk about our sponsors. So what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna give you a breakdown of the entire episode. Now the intro lasted 38 minutes. We started out by talking about a new tool for your tool. That's interesting. A tool for tool. Then we talked about blood thinners and coronavirus.
Starting point is 00:00:46 They're showing that treating coronavirus with blood thinners may actually help people quite a bit, which let us to talk about grass-fed meat. Now, grass-fed meat is higher in omega-3 fatty acids than regular meat. Now, it's not a huge difference, but it's enough to where if you eat meat regularly, you might want to make the switch to grass-fed meat
Starting point is 00:01:05 because I'll make a three fatty acids besides being anti-inflammatory. They also help keep your blood thin, and right now that's an important thing. Now our favorite company for grass-fed meats is butcher-box. Butcher-box literally delivers it to your door and they have all kinds of different cuts of meat
Starting point is 00:01:22 from tri-tip to filet mignon or as Justin says it, filet mignin. But now butcher box had a wait list before. That's how popular they are. But right now, you can go to butcher box and they're open. You can sign up, get meat delivered to your door within a few weeks. So here's what you do. And by the way, we have a discount for you. Go to butcherbox.com forward slash mind pump. use the code mind pump, get hooked up with a special mind pump discount. Then we talked about how 33% of the hustle readers,
Starting point is 00:01:52 the hustle is an email newsletter that goes out to millions of people, 33% of them are saying they're moving out of the big city. San Francisco and New York in particular. That's exodus. Yeah, there's a big change going on. Then we talked about alcohol consumption in the country and gun purchases in particular. That's Exodus. Yeah, there's a big change going on. Then we talked about alcohol consumption in the country and gun purchases in the country.
Starting point is 00:02:09 They're going through the roof. Speaking of alcohol consumption, there's a product called Zbiotics that you can drink right before you drink and it prevents all the negative effects you get from alcohol. Now how does it do this? These are probiotics that are genetically engineered to produce an enzyme that breaks down
Starting point is 00:02:28 the negative byproducts of alcohol. It's patented, ladies and gentlemen, you don't find this anywhere, and it really does work, no joke, try it out for yourself, it's trippy. We have a discount for you again, because you're a Mind Pump listener. Go to zbiotics.com.
Starting point is 00:02:44 That's zbiot. zbiotics.com.zbiotics.com forward slash mind pump. And we get 10% off the three packs, six packs, and 12 packs. Then we talked about all the companies going bankrupt right now because there's some challenging times. We talked about face masks, masks, sex, and that sounds weird, but that's kinky. Been recommended. And then we talked about but that's kinky. Been recommended. And then we talked about the effects of the shelter in place on some of our loved ones.
Starting point is 00:03:09 And then we mentioned the new social media platform, parlor, turns out to be a conservative platform. Adam called it. He called it on the last podcast. Then we got into answering the questions. Here's the first one. This person's been a calorie deficit for several weeks. They're seeing results, but their abs are not really getting leaner.
Starting point is 00:03:26 What should they do? The next question, this person wants to know what we think about fitness trackers. The third question, this person wants to know what we think about blood type diets. These are diets that tell you to eat a particular way based on your blood type. And the final question, what makes us most proud to be an American? Also, all month long, maps strong is half off, 50% off. Now, maps strong is an exceptional program designed to build muscle, burn body fat, speed up the metabolism.
Starting point is 00:04:00 It's a strong man inspired workout, so it's really fun. You have different exercises in the program that you are maybe not familiar with. It's really good for the posterior chain. The posterior chain refers to all the muscles that make up the back of your body. So your back, your butt, and your hamstrings. If you really want to work on those areas, map strong is a great program. Again, it's half off. Here's how you get the discount. Just go to mapsstrong.com that's MAPSSTRONG.com and then use the code strong
Starting point is 00:04:34 50. That's STRONG50, no space for the discount. So you guys know that machine that was sent to us? Oh yeah, yeah, the real loud clacking machine. What? In the corner. So just for the audience, things get sent to us all the time. For us to try out. Oh, that's how you're gonna play this. Yeah, well it is. It's true.
Starting point is 00:04:56 I didn't order it. It's sent to a shot. Things do get sent to us. You get excited at all. Things get sent to us all the time. Come on, it's pitted out. Tell people what it is. And so this company contacts us and say,
Starting point is 00:05:07 hey, we would love for you guys to try out this machine shockwave therapy. It's, yeah, it's like, it's a dick. No, it's what it is. Shockwave therapy. Yeah, how do you know? That's what's called.
Starting point is 00:05:17 So they asked me, I passed. You did, okay, so they said, Adam will do this for sure. So it's this machine that uses shockwave therapy and supposedly It's good. Well, what it was designed for is for erectile dysfunction But the side effect of it is normal men it causes I guess it gives you better erections and all that stuff Anyway, so you know, of course, you know, we're like I don't know what are we gonna do with this? So like wait fine Send one we'll see what happens. So they sent one over, I plugged it in, because I thought you needed to charge it.
Starting point is 00:05:48 First of all, the thing looks pretty intimidating. It's like a spaceship that's just gonna eat your member. It looks pretty intimidating. But I plugged it in, the other day, we're all in here in the studio, the audience need to know this. And I thought I had to charge it. So I'm looking at it, I'm trying to figure out like,
Starting point is 00:06:05 how do I know if it's charging, I push a button. And it sounds like, it's not exaggerated. Jackhammer. Yes. It does sound like. Man that work over here. I thought I was broke it, right? I was like, whoa dude, it's like heavy construction area.
Starting point is 00:06:18 I unplugged it real quick and I'm like, okay, maybe I did something wrong. So anyway, I took it home and I watched the video and the first thing on the video, it says, place numbing cream on your penis, which is not always, that's not a good sign. You're like, wait a minute. Yeah, like why don't I need to do that?
Starting point is 00:06:34 No, I didn't get no numbing cream with it. Where'd you go pick that up? Well, I didn't, I thought I could handle this. So, wow. So anyway, I, so you do a light dab or you do like a whole, like very ballsy of you. Well, so, so, so I brought it home, I did you a light dab or you do like a whole like very balls of you So so so I brought it home. I told Jessica about it and I was like I'll kind of laugh And I'm like oh, I got this thing. I'm gonna try it out or whatever
Starting point is 00:06:52 So I brought it home watch the video brought it home She was downstairs and she's like I'm gonna take a nap right now So I'm like okay, I'm gonna go upstairs and try this thing out. I told her yeah She's so and you know she's pregnant. She's moving into the third trimester. She takes snaps and all that stuff. So I go upstairs and I plug it in and I turn it on. And that's literally the sound it makes when it's doing what it's supposed to.
Starting point is 00:07:14 Yeah. Bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum What the hell is going on? I'm like, I'm sorry. I don't know. But anyway, I tried it. I don't know if it's... I'm remodeling. I don't know if it does anything yet. I've only used it once. So I can't tell. Probably more. So, come on, give me a little more detail here. I saw the app, by the way, if you follow my story, I did a video of South holding it. So you saw it if you follow me. Apparently, this isn't me saying it works. I don't notice anything yet. I've only used it once, and I don't have an issue there. So I don't know what I'm going to see necessarily, what kind of improvement or whatever I'm going to see. But the testimonials, apparently, are really good.
Starting point is 00:07:54 It's approved. If I'm not mistaken for a rectal dysfunction, which means there may be some science. Because if it lasts for four hours, aren't you supposed to see a doctor? That's my agger, I do. That's what I've been told. Did you hear that COVID story?
Starting point is 00:08:05 I shared that with you. Oh, no, what was it? Yeah, you know, Justin always has the good stories like that. I just feel like he gets to use it. You sent one my way. Yeah, I sent him this guy that was like 65. And he went in with COVID. And he had like this weird abnormality where
Starting point is 00:08:21 because they set him up with a ventilator, something about it ended up giving him more him more, he had something, right? Like some sort of a like a blood clot or restriction or something. Oh, oh, so they must have given him some vasodilator or something. Yeah, they gave him something to treat COVID and it ends up happening as a byproduct. He gets this four hour erection. He's like 65 and a half. Wow.
Starting point is 00:08:42 Wow. Wow. That reminds me of a bad joke. This nurse is touring another new nurse around the hospital. And they're walking by and they walk by a room. And there's a guy just, you know, furiously jerking off. And the new nurse is like, what the hell? And she's like, oh, sorry, the guy's got like a condition.
Starting point is 00:08:59 That's Roger. Yeah, he has a condition. He needs to do that, like just ignore him or whatever. And then they walk into another room. And there's he's getting a blowjob from one of the nurses. She's like what the hell kind of husband No, no, same condition. He's got better insurance That's an old joke But anyway, so I so the way the way you use it is you PPO and how it like it all it does It sounds like a jackhammer and it kind of does jackhammer a little bit, and it's got
Starting point is 00:09:28 a metal tip of all things. It's like a metal tip. It's like a metal tip. And what you're supposed to do is just hold your package and kind of stretch it or whatever, and you put this thing on the side, and it goes, and you move up and down in a line real slowly, and then you move in different segments. And it doesn't hurt. It doesn't hurt.
Starting point is 00:09:48 It doesn't hurt, but it is a little bit uncomfortable. But I don't know, we'll see what happens. It's a no like arousal for you for this. If you can get aroused while this thing is hammering inside of your penis, you can't do it as an end. Yeah, exactly. That's the other stuff going on. Now is art, do penis pumps fall in the category
Starting point is 00:10:07 of a reptile dysfunction tools? Yeah, they are approved. Yeah, that's one of the first, that's one of the first so I wonder how it rates compared to that. Speaking of that, I had to explain what that was to my kids because of awesome powers. They found yours. Oh, that came, yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:20 They found mine. Yes, yes, yes. Yeah, she did. No, it's in that movie. I forgot that was in the movie. They're like, oh, and one penis pump. Yeah, I found my I forgot that was in the movie like oh and one penis Pum, yeah, my kids were dying laughing like one sweet when receipt for Swedish penis Yeah, I'm like work was that dude dad It's for blowing up balloons
Starting point is 00:10:38 Those Yeah, I was like I don't know that it really works, but you know, some people think it does. Yeah, well those were. It temporarily works. Those were. So why? I had one.
Starting point is 00:10:51 Oh yeah, that's right. Yeah, I bought one like, I don't know, so I was told that. That one of those things you buy when you're old enough to get that shit, you know. It turned 18, like, four megabytes. Actually, what made me take it was that I was taking growth hormone back to, this is way back back when and my buddies said that he was
Starting point is 00:11:06 Recommended from his doctor said that if you take growth hormone with that Combination of that you will see like a significant and wake all my buddies and I were like there's no way and then there's there was two of us It was like fuck this. Let's just try let's just see what's really yeah Yeah, and you definitely there's a difference temporarily I mean because you're but because you're sucking a ton of, again, a pump. Yeah, yeah, so you any muscle. Yeah, so I mean, I mean, I'm not that like that,
Starting point is 00:11:30 where it's just like, oh, I want to try and impress my girl. I'm going to go do that for a half hour before I go up like this. Yeah, it's kind of like, it's kind of like the guy doing push, it's kind of like the guy doing pushups in the bathroom. You know what I'm saying? Like sooner or later, she's going to find out, helicopter just to get noticed. Yeah, hey, sooner or later, she's gonna fire down, right? Helicopter just to get noticed. Yeah, hey, hey, sooner or later, she's gonna fight down.
Starting point is 00:11:48 You see any different? Huh? Should I have been doing? Come on, it's like the typical guy. I don't call it, I was like, Hey, honey, can you come in here real quick? Yeah, yeah. Why?
Starting point is 00:11:58 No, no, just come in real quick. So anyway, so what's going on? Yeah, so what's going on? It's the equivalent of like when they get their hair done. You know what I'm saying? They're just waiting for you to say something, you know, you're just like, what am I here for? Yeah, yeah. Tom, right?
Starting point is 00:12:11 Do you notice anything? It's hard to do that. I'm naked because it's hot, but anyway, so what's happened? There's massive change right in front of you. Hey, but speaking of COVID and the blood and the stuff to do the blood, so there's reports that are coming out that COVID
Starting point is 00:12:25 is really a blood disorder more than it's a respiratory disease because it's causing all these blood clots and strokes and stuff and young people and all these issues. So they're starting to treat COVID with blood thinners and they're seeing a higher survival rate. Oh, that makes sense about the heart on that, right? Yes. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:12:47 That's what just reminded me of that. Yeah, so they're giving people like high doses of blood thinners, but apparently like aspirin and normal standard blood thinners, probably a good idea to prevent some of the stuff. Right. Omega-3 fatty acids. But not ibuprofen, because then that like tends to exacerbate the heart rate. You know what? I don't, I think that, I think they they I think they I think they're redacted that
Starting point is 00:13:07 Oh did they I think so I didn't hear that yeah, but you know omega-3 fatty acids if your fatty acid profile is off It makes your blood thicker and omega-3 fatty acids help thin the blood which is you know in a natural way which is Good for you Here's one of the things about grass-fed meat that I like, because I know there's always this like, oh, grass-fed meat versus regular-fed meat. Not that big of a difference, doesn't make a big difference. It does, if you eat red meat every single day, like I do,
Starting point is 00:13:36 and the quantities that I eat, at least, a half a pound to a pound of red meat most days. The difference between grass fed meat and traditional grain fed meat is big enough when you add up the cumulative effects. That's what I don't like when people try and tease that out and be like, well, if you compare one or the other, we're splitting hairs.
Starting point is 00:13:55 Well, I mean, yeah, splitting hairs in one situation, but if you eat red meat on, or I'm with you, every day, it's rare that a day that I don't have red meat. And that's why I kind of live by that rule for me. Like, okay, when I'm preparing at home, 90% of the time, I'm using my butcher box. That's the goal is I'm going to use that. And then if I go out to a restaurant, I'm not going to tell Katrina, no, we can't go to the grill because they don't use grass-fed beef.
Starting point is 00:14:21 100% based, that's like the building block for my meal. I start with that and then I'll build like, some kind of dinner or lunch or something around that. These days and it's made my life so much more easy to like handle that. It is, look, I've done myself personal experiments where again, I eat a lot of red meat. I feel good on it, it makes me strong,
Starting point is 00:14:41 but I do notice a distinct difference between when I eat a lot of grass fed versus when I eat a lot of grain fed. I've done this where, you know, like my butcher box ran out a while ago, right? We had guests or whatever, and so I served up all of them. We didn't have any, so I went to Costco, and I got a bunch of just traditional, you know, grain fed.
Starting point is 00:14:58 And I was eating my normal, like I said, half a pound to a pound. Some days I eat more than that. Some days it's one I have pounds of red meat every single day. And I did notice that I was stiffer. I noticed that I was a little bit more inflamed and I had to increase my intake of omega-3 fatty acids
Starting point is 00:15:13 supplement-wise to try to offset a little bit. Then when I went back to grass fed, because I got my delivery, I noticed the difference again. The digestion was better and my inflammation was down. So again, you're right, one meal, splitting hairs, a few meals, splitting hairs. But if you eat red meat all the time, and then you do that over time,
Starting point is 00:15:32 so like a year, two years, three years, five years of rest of your life, yeah, totally makes a difference. Totally makes a difference to get those kinds of foods that are gonna give you a better feeling or whatever. You guys know how we're talking about the other day, we've been, all of us have been reading a lot of homes, real estate stuff, and I read this article.
Starting point is 00:15:52 Oh, I'm crazy. I'm reading like a hundred hours at least. At least, like 750. Yeah, absolutely. Like 750 a year or so, like at least. So I was reading an article at night, and I think it was a hustle. And then they actually did a poll with their readers and they i think they have you know
Starting point is 00:16:07 hundreds of thousands of of of readers that are reading the hustle daily basis thirty three percent of their their readers so are thirty three point three percent of their readers that's a lot of our moving in the next two months wow out of state like leaving their state thirty three number one and number two uh places new york city in san francisco leaving and for cisco leaving perfect Wow, out of state, like leaving their state. 33, the number one and number two places, New York City and San Francisco. Oh, the leaving and Francisco is leaving. Yes, leaving, perfect. Totally. So my Austin, Denver, Nashville, Texas,
Starting point is 00:16:32 those are all the things. So I have cousins and my brother lives in San Francisco. I have a lot of family members that live San Francisco and have lived there for a long time. Here's what's happened over the last... The Gavin News in happened. Yeah, that's what's happened. Maybe part of it, right?
Starting point is 00:16:44 This is what's happened over the last 10 years. So I have cousins who have lived there for over 10 years. This Gavin Newsen happened. Yeah, well, maybe part of it, right? This is what's happened over the last 10 years. That cousins have lived there for over 10 years. This is what they've told me because we've had these conversations and they used to say how much they loved it there. Now the homeless problem got really bad. The crime started getting really bad. And now with the shutdowns,
Starting point is 00:16:59 they've lost the, like the allure of the city because like my brother tells me, the reason why I liked San Francisco was I could walk outside of my apartment. It's a beautiful place. I could go to restaurants, I could go to bars, I could hang out. Now that everything's closed,
Starting point is 00:17:11 I'm stuck in my apartment paying a million dollars just to stay in this tiny apartment when I could go live somewhere else. I, that's gotta be happening. Well, in addition to that, we've seen this across the board with a lot of these companies, especially in the Silicon Valley, right,
Starting point is 00:17:26 in San Francisco Bay Area, that are no longer requiring people to come into work. Yeah, so why are you gonna spend so much money? Yeah, so why live downtown San Francisco? If in, and how annoyed would you be paying, like, what I think the average rent there is like $3,800 to $4,000 a month for a little studio or two bedroom type of apartment.
Starting point is 00:17:46 Paying that downtown San Francisco can't go out like you're saying in the restaurant. Your company tells you, work from home. Yeah, work from home. I would be pissed too. So I'm stuck in a tiny apartment, way overpriced rent. Yeah, that's a no-brainer.
Starting point is 00:18:00 Dude, I think my brother paid at one point, it was a two bedroom or one bedroom, it was like over 5,500 bucks a month, and that was a good deal. You know, it's insanely expensive. Do you think that's gonna affect the pricing? And do you think there's gonna be a drop because of this or is it still- Of course, if the demand goes down,
Starting point is 00:18:18 it's gotta- The price has to go down. Yes and no, so my theory on what I'm seeing happening right now is that because of interest rates so low, we're still seeing bidding wars on houses. We're still seeing real estate selling like crazy. But mainly investors, right? Yeah, that's what I, that's my theory.
Starting point is 00:18:35 My theory, right? Now, eventually, if you believe that infusing all this money into the economy, like we've done, right, Is eventually gonna cause inflation, right? So as a result of that, to slow that down, I think Sal and I were talking about this yesterday off air, to slow that down, you're going to see. Raising interest rates.
Starting point is 00:18:53 Raising interest rates. Right now, investors are going crazy because the interest rates are so low, you can buy a property somewhere, rent it out and actually make cash flow on it. So they're all going like nuts, that's because it's 2.9, 3.3. When it starts to get to 5 and 6%, you're not going to be making cash on cash anymore, so that's going to pull all the investors out, and then that's going to sort of slow down
Starting point is 00:19:16 all of them. It also depends on the market. San Francisco has really, really strict rent control, which totally disincentivizes investment, because you're not going to want to invest somewhere if you can't make your money back. So they have really, really tight rent control. The allure of living in a city is really starting to drop because you can work remotely. The allure of the city has gone out that everything's closed. And a lot of these cities, I know in New York crime has exploded. Recently, San Francisco crime has exploded.
Starting point is 00:19:51 I know that when the laws in California now, as you could do something like, I believe you could rob up to $900 or something like that, and it's a misdemeanor. So that's still in effect. Yeah. Because that was like before the whole COVID thing with you were starting to see that from some
Starting point is 00:20:06 of the homeless community coming in and who was saying that was it you or sound. They were telling me that. Yeah. And like CVS and they would like get the exact amount that was basically like under like six or nine dollars. Oh my brother said they would walk. So because of Walgreens, which is, it was a staple in San Francisco. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:23 So Walgreens. It's starting to move out because they're not getting protected because people would rob, then they call the cops, cops would take them in and they'd spin them out the next day. And they wouldn't be getting put. That's crazy. And my brother said, literally, he saw people taking deodorant and hair spray and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:20:39 They'd throw it in a garbage bag. Then they'd walk out and the employees are not stopping them anymore because it's a waste of time. Then they're walking out, going around the corner, putting the deodorant and hairspray on the floor and selling them for cheaper. What a shit show. Yeah, it's crazy.
Starting point is 00:20:55 But some places, so much lawlessness, you know, that's been allowed, you know, with the mask of good intentions. Yeah. That's been like the theme I've seen in a lot of these major cities that are just crumbling right now. Are you guys reading anything
Starting point is 00:21:08 on like alcohol and consumption? So is it still like skyrocketing? Yeah. I know it was before. Two, here's two statistics that when you hear them together, I don't mind. Mine hasn't slowed down at all. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:18 So I'm sure I'm not alone. You know? Two statistics that when you say them together kind of scary, alcohol consumption is exploding. I don't know if it's at all time highs, but it's high. And gun purchases at all time highs. That is a good thing. That is a nice thing.
Starting point is 00:21:33 That's an all time high. We're on pace to set a record of more guns purchased in a year ever. Ever, yeah. Yeah, and you know what's funny about this? It's new ownership. Yes, it's a huge percentage of new gun owners and of those new owners. Over 50, right? And of the ownership. Yes, it's a huge percentage of new gun owners and of those new gun owners.
Starting point is 00:21:45 Over 50, right? And of the new gun owners. Women, a big percentage of them. Yeah, yeah. Are women that are purchasing? My buddy, I think it's great. I mean, personally. Well, I think if you're responsible
Starting point is 00:21:55 and you learn how to use it, then it is. Yeah, I don't think a bunch of these girls are going by and guns so they can go Rob's stores. No, I think it's a home protection. That's the thing is if they go through that, they learn how everything works. Like, you know, it's very empowering if you go through all those steps.
Starting point is 00:22:09 Yeah, and there's also revolvers are, they're selling more and more revolvers. Revolvers are historically new buyers like to get them, they're easy to load, easy to use. They don't jam. You know, they're just, they're a nice kind of first gun. Talking about guns and alcohol, you know, I haven't, we were, obviously we were watching gun,
Starting point is 00:22:30 we got Smith and Wesson's, and we bought that stock, right? But I haven't been watching alcohol stock. Have you guys been, I haven't watched anything like that. Doug, do you have any, four, one on that? Yeah, no idea. None. What would be the stock?
Starting point is 00:22:41 What would you be, what would you be, what's the ticker? Public. Well, Bud, what is Johnny Walker? No, no, no, what's Budweiser Budweiser? What an hyzer bush an hyzer bush is one of the biggest ones right there They have a ton of of brands underneath them. I know that yeah Would be one to look out. I'm curious to see a clause exploding Wike I don't know why clause owned by somebody. Yeah, they are I don't that's a good question There's a lot of competitors now to white claw there are yeah, we were we saw you on anhyzer high noon or anhyzer bush did their response to that
Starting point is 00:23:10 They created their their own line that is good. They yeah the bus a water yeah, cuz it we when we were up in Tahoe And we were celebrating the fourth that's what I did I went to the grocery store and I bought a bunch of white claw and there were a lot of different Brands that were kind of similar so I had there's a truly I bought a bunch of white claw and there were a lot of different brands that were kind of similar. So I had, it was like truly, I think it's one of them. And it was, yeah. Yeah. You know, it wasn't there a drink like that
Starting point is 00:23:31 when we were kids, it was mud. Yeah, it was mud, dude. It was mud, right? Yeah, it was made fun of. It was so different. What? I mean, this guy's got to defend it over here, dude. Because he's a big white claw guy.
Starting point is 00:23:41 Yeah, I'm a closet white claw guy. All I do is just sort of re- clock guy. You're just so pretty trick. Yeah, he keeps his figure. Yeah, yeah. Come on man, I'm gonna lose calories. I'm gonna go with the party without all the calories. We're a match. Where were we?
Starting point is 00:23:55 We were somewhere where I forgot where it was. And I think it was you guys. Wasn't there a place we went where they vaporized alcohol? Yeah, that was San Diego. Or it was in your cell. No, it was Austin. Was it Austin?
Starting point is 00:24:08 I'm pretty sure it was in Austin. What was that? Yeah, it was in Austin. We went to this bar and they had like that was one of those options. They vaporized the alcohol and you like basically inhaled it through a bag. It was in there. It was like, you know, like it was a little air bomb or something. Yeah, and you felt immediate head rush.
Starting point is 00:24:28 You felt a little drunk, but it only lasted like a minute. It was a different high though. But you got kind of drunk for like 30 seconds or a minute. Remember that? You know it would go away. Yeah. And it was like $15 a shot. It was probably the CO2 getting you higher. Yeah, it's probably more than that. That's probably like a lot of oxygen. The banana peel.
Starting point is 00:24:48 Did you guys see on the forum? Who was it? I think it was. Let me see. I took a picture of it. So I could give them a shout out. It was Chris and Rachel Phillips. No. So they've been in our forum for a little while and they took a picture or video of them drinking the Zbiotics and then basically they partied. Oh, they did a weed-aid kind of deal. Yeah, so they didn't see that. Yeah, so they were reporting in the forum how they felt and the next day, what was the results of?
Starting point is 00:25:12 Well, this is from Chris. Chris said, it worked like a charm. He even had a shot at tequila and it's been about a year since I've been that brave. So he had about six drinks and he says he's totally sold. I tell you, that stuff is weird. It works. It's really, really, you still get exhausted,
Starting point is 00:25:29 but I mean, you don't have a lot of the effects, like, man, if I get too hammered, it's the whole next day. It's really. It's not weird when you know the science. Yeah, right. Once you understand the science, it makes sense. It's weird because I have tried about every,
Starting point is 00:25:42 because for me personally, I'm obviously a fitness guy, right? I love working out, I love feeling good, I love good performance. And what always deterred me from alcohol was A, it took away from my strength and muscle gains, which is very important to me when I was in my 20s. So if I went out, I didn't drink because of that. I have this like, same thing, right?
Starting point is 00:26:02 Number two, I hated feeling like shit the next day because then I couldn't get a good workout and every time I drank, no matter what amount I had, the next day I would feel kind of shitty. So I just never, but I tried every remedy in the book. I tried everything in order to see if I could offset the effects. I tried every nutrient combination. I tried every, you know, charcoal, activated charcoal helps a little bit, especially with the upset stomach, but you still, you know, if you have a drink.
Starting point is 00:26:28 So it's the opposite of you guys, I would like, work out to support my drinking. Yeah, or I would like incorporate, which is the teams around the drinking, where I would like, you know, we play home run derby with cakes, which is the true inspiration of him becoming a trainer right here. It is, right?
Starting point is 00:26:44 I make up for my frat boy Ricky here. He's actually getting paid for doing all this fitness. I'm like, you guys do. But I mean, Zibiotics works so good. It's almost unbelievable. You literally feel like nothing the next day. Didn't you say that you, was it, were you trying the for your college football team?
Starting point is 00:27:05 Oh, remember that. Yeah. Yeah. Color guard. Yeah. It was color guard. They actually. Hey. No, I that's exactly what happened. I was debating on going out because we were actually living in this fraternity house, which I wasn't part of the fraternity, but my friends were. And they had this big party for one of my friends. It was like his big brother, big bro reveal or something, I don't know what it's called that.
Starting point is 00:27:31 But so big brother reveal? Yeah, like they give you a big brother that's like, sort of the mentor. Or a manager mentor. So he invited me to that and I'm like, nah, nah, nah, I got this thing tomorrow. You know, I gotta be sharp and be on my game. Because you were trying out for the team,
Starting point is 00:27:48 and then literally, I don't know, five minutes later, I'm doing shots with everybody and having a good time and then like, oh, no, I'm gonna pay for this tomorrow. 100% influence by some chick. Totally there's chicks there. Yeah, he's like, no, no, that's cheating. Hot chick's walking the door. I vividly imported me a shot. 100% is all guys and then the girls came Totally there's chicks. Yeah, he's like, no, no, that's cheating. No, that's cheating. Hot chicks walk in the door.
Starting point is 00:28:05 I vividly imported me a shot. 100% is all guys and then the girls came and then one gave me, yeah, that's exactly what happened. Of course. And so then totally compromised my entire integrity of like, yeah, I'm gonna be like totally sharp and ready. And it ruined my, you know, obviously ruined my performance the next day.
Starting point is 00:28:21 And I was like yacking and everything after I was done running. I was running like in a diagonal. You know, I was even running straight. Yeah, I would add such a better like 40 time. I was just running straight V8 commercials. Oh, yeah. Those stupid commercials. You know, you know, how many?
Starting point is 00:28:36 But it was meant to be, right? Yeah, exactly. That's how I look at it. You could have become a professional football player never made it to mind pump. And Adam and I would have to do this by ourselves. You guys would be like never worth it. Not-pump. And Adam and I would have to do this by ourselves. You guys would be like, never were. Not even a thought.
Starting point is 00:28:47 You know what I mean? Thank God you never became a professional football player. No, not even the worst. Cause that one stupid mistake. Yeah. That exactly what would have happened. No, no, no. Are you guys seeing all the bankruptcies
Starting point is 00:28:59 that are happening still? No, what do you mean? Okay, so I got a new, just, I mean, obviously there's way more than this. Do you say that with zero sensitivity? Hey guys, I know. a new lit. Just, I mean, obviously there's way more than this. Did you say that with zero sensitivity? Hey guys, I know. I know, I know, I know, I know. I should be more sensitive that
Starting point is 00:29:10 because I know a lot of people are hardy right now. But listen, these are just some of the bankruptcy that are happening since COVID, right? Brooks Brothers. Yeah, I saw that one. Chuck E. Cheese. What? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:22 I thought they pivoted. They did, and I obviously still file for bankruptcy, so they're undercover pizza on The last place you want to go with COVID is the frickin balls that you jump in and play. Yeah, it's like a sick Reading ground of you. You did you hear I think Justin brought it up or maybe I brought it up right up what they did They'll hit it. Yeah, they were doing delivery. Yeah, but they weren't doing it under a different name And I was some some racist the tie-in name they made up right? Well, you know, I Thought that was really clever,
Starting point is 00:29:46 because nobody ever said, no one ever said, oh, go to Chuck E. Cheese, they have the best pizza. No, nobody ever. No, that's too bad. Yes Yeah, Sal Jay C penny Restress for the Sal Where am I gonna get my shoes Yeah, yeah. It's it.
Starting point is 00:30:23 That's a bunch of numbers. You're basically about. Remember JC Pinty catalogs with your kid? You know,
Starting point is 00:30:30 I remember. Of course you did. You're the lingerie area. Yeah. I know. I know. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:30:38 That's a national geographic. I have a good time. Hey, man. Yeah. Neiman and Marcus. Pier one. Popperous. I don't know what that is, Dean and Deluca, fairway, true religion, roots USA, gold, gym, uh, John Vervados, uh, Models, an advantage, the rent a car place.
Starting point is 00:30:53 Oh, wow. Yeah. Well, yeah, rental cars. You know what? I wonder if there's gonna be a lot of good prices on cars for sale after that, right? Because all those rental car companies have to sell a little fire. I don't think it was a car or whatever. Yeah, I wonder how that works.
Starting point is 00:31:04 I don't know how that works. That's where mine came from. I was a rental car car companies got to sell. A little fire. Or whatever. Yeah, I wonder how that works. I don't know how that works. That's where mine came from. I was a rental car. Oh, it was. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. You only had like, what, 20,000 or less?
Starting point is 00:31:11 Just 20,000 miles. Yeah, buying a new car doesn't make any sense. That's where. Yeah. The difference in price is just, yeah, they should make me feel like an asshole there. Both together, that's all. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:21 That's not my easy. Not because of that though. Dude, you want to hear a stupid article I just read? Sometimes I think to myself. I love those. Why do people even write these articles? So the article was about sex during the COVID era. And this is what they said.
Starting point is 00:31:41 This is what they recommend in the article. Instead of saying don't have sex with people that you don't know very well or don't live with, this is what they said. This is what they recommend in the article. Instead of saying don't have sex with people that you don't know very well or don't live with, this is what they say. If you have an out-of-house coronavirus crush, besides keeping your mask on, so number one, let's just stop right there, wear a mask while you're having sex with someone.
Starting point is 00:31:57 Oh, like the fluid exchange doesn't matter. That's fucking weird. So you're gonna wear a mask and a condom and then whatever. Besides doing that, avoid kissing oral to anal contact and anything else that involves semen or urine. Well, there goes my plan. That's everything Justin does. Yes, all of it was. So minus the block of cheese. I mean, that's pretty much cancels everything. How many of these cheese with this mask on? Yeah, so they're saying we're a mask when you're having sex. Why don't they just say the obvious,
Starting point is 00:32:28 which is you probably should not go and have sex with random people right now. How dare you say abstinence. Yeah. Well, how dare you say abstinence? Wouldn't that be weird though? You meet someone, you're like talking, I'm like, hey, that's...
Starting point is 00:32:40 Nobody is doing that. That's where I'm at. Nobody's doing that. I saw all these rules that just come up with. I saw our buddy Mark go in like a big rant too, that and I agree with him on this too. Like, what's the percentage? I'm gonna say some crazy ridiculous number,
Starting point is 00:32:53 like 80 or 90% of the people are not even like doing the mass thing correctly. I see people with their noses hanging out of it, probably a mass they haven't washed for for two months now. Like, it's like ridiculous, or wearing it in their car by themselves. That, did you see that there was a guy that caught in a car accident?
Starting point is 00:33:11 Yeah, you like suffocated. He passed out because he passed out. He passed out because he was wearing his mask while driving. What? Why are you wearing a mask in your car? Yeah. You're by yourself. Why'd you put chloroform on it? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:23 It's not a good move. You try to keep it clean, dude. Don't wear any adjustments masks. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, smell this real quick. Yeah. Oh, you went to sleep. Yeah, dude, I've seen, have you seen people
Starting point is 00:33:32 like this driving their cars? A lot of people. With masks on. Yeah, I see. Why? I don't know. No, that one actually irritates me. You know why?
Starting point is 00:33:39 Because there's so much bullshit news out there. Everyone's fucking confused. It's true. There's so much, there's so much from each direction that people are like, ah, just, I think I'm doing it right. This is the one thing keeping it from entering my body. Yeah, no, it's to do, you know, on a sad note, I'll tell you what, man, you know,
Starting point is 00:33:55 and I said this before in the podcast, we don't, we're, we're strongly considering the obvious risks of potentially contracting and spreading as virus, but what we're discarding are all of the downstream other effects that could potentially happen from really, really strong measures at trying to prevent virus spread. For example, I went to go visit my grandparents
Starting point is 00:34:20 and I haven't seen them. They haven't seen anybody for three months besides FaceTime. They haven't seen anybody for three months besides FaceTime. They haven't seen or been around anybody physically. Now my grandmother had recently had a very small stroke. She's okay, everything's fine. But because of that, her daughter, my mom, her sisters are over there.
Starting point is 00:34:41 Everybody's been social distancing, but everybody's there trying to help or whatever. So we basically have been able to go over there because it was a scary situation. My mom, my grandmother's older, my grandfather's 90, my grandmother's almost as old and she almost, you know, that's scary, right? When she had a stroke.
Starting point is 00:34:55 So we're all like, we gotta go there, be careful, you know, wear your mask and everybody but go, and we need to see them. And I haven't seen my grandparents in three months. They're both of their health declined in that three month period in such a quick, so fast. Oh yeah. Because when you're, especially when you're older,
Starting point is 00:35:12 you need human contact. Community is part of health. Dude, this reminds me of, so I had a client years ago, I'll never forget this. It was such a powerful, powerful example to me. I had a client that I trained for a long time. Barbara was her name, and she was in her 80s, and I trained her for six years.
Starting point is 00:35:31 And over this period of time, you could kind of see a little bit of dementia. I don't know if you could call dementia, but she would kind of repeat herself, or she'd tell me a story that she told before. And maybe there was a little bit of decline, maybe over that six-week period, excuse me, six-month period.
Starting point is 00:35:48 But it was a super perceptible. Anyway, one day, when she was taking a shower, she slipped, broke her leg, so she couldn't come to the gym anymore. After she healed her daughter, said she wasn't gonna pay for personal training anymore because it was her daughter that was hiring me. So I didn't see this woman for, I don't know what it was, like eight months, something like that. So trainer for six years, twice a week, religiously,
Starting point is 00:36:13 didn't see her for about, I don't know, seven or eight months, went to the grocery store, ran into her. She didn't recognize me at all. She didn't know who I was. I went up to her and I'm like, hey, Barbara, and she looks up at me, like super confused and she goes, who are you? And I'm like, it's Sal, I train you in this and that. And she's like, I don't know who you, and her daughter was right there.
Starting point is 00:36:34 She's like, oh, her health is really declined. And I knew it was because she stopped exercising. You know, when you don't exercise and you're in your 20s and 30s, you're health declines, but it's slow. When you're that old, if you take your foot off the gas, compounding. Very fast.
Starting point is 00:36:50 And that's what I saw in my grandparents. Not that they stopped exercising, but they stopped seeing their grandkids. They stopped seeing their kids and their great-grandkids. They stopped that huge... Well, you see a streamer action. We see extreme examples in this when like a, you know, a spouse dies at like 70.
Starting point is 00:37:04 You ever seen someone like that? Like know, a spouse dies at like 70. You're a scene someone like that. Like how they look at age like 10 years and that one year after they'd one dies. It made me feel so bad and I talked to my, my, my mom and all my, my aunts and uncles and I said, listen, I said, we still should be very careful. We should social distance. If you have any, you know, if you have a little bit of a cough or whatever, a fever and also don't expose yourself to other people
Starting point is 00:37:25 and then come here and say, but I think that the negative health effects of them not seeing us outweigh the maybe risk that they may get of us being here. You know what I'm saying? No, I totally agree. I think it's definitely a consideration to see, you know, how we can all sort of like uplift our,
Starting point is 00:37:42 I mean, our mental state. Like, I think that's such a vital part of our health that we have to really consider. Do you see the difference in your kids? Because they can't go to school and be around for example. Exactly, there's another point. When we were up in, we were up in Tahoe
Starting point is 00:37:54 with all the kids together. It was so great to see them all playing, and running, and her name. Yeah, because they're interacting. We're social creatures. Yeah, it's to remove that we're social creatures. Yes. To remove that part of it is to remove a little bit of humanity. That's what I mean.
Starting point is 00:38:09 We are. It's going to be very interesting when we see, because we're still in the thick of it, right? And there's, then it is, it's so political right now. It shouldn't be political. I know it should, but it is. It is. It is what it is. But in, in about a year, we're going to be able to look back and you're going to be
Starting point is 00:38:25 able to see like a very clear indication of when COVID hit and when we all decided to shelter in place. And there's things that we've already talked about like, you know, the rise of domestic violence, suicide going up. Exciting depression. Right. And so right now the argument is, and it's a fair argument that, okay, those things are all going up, but at the cost of us potentially saving millions of lives, potentially, right? But after we've looked at this over a course of a year,
Starting point is 00:38:54 those numbers might start to be enough that you start to go like, holy shit, you know, X amount died from COVID, but this percent more, people committed suicide, this percent more, increased in suicide, this percent more, increased in obesity, this percent more abuse. Right, and at that point, what will those numbers look like, and it will have to really ask ourselves,
Starting point is 00:39:15 was that the best strategy? And that's gonna be a hard conversation. We don't consider, and we see this in the fitness space all the time, we don't consider the whole sphere of health. Part of that is whether or not you're sick. That's definitely a part of your health. But your mental state is a part of your health. The relationships around you are a part of your health.
Starting point is 00:39:33 Your spiritual health is a part of your health. Your physical fitness is a part of your health. All of these things make up your health and you have to understand and consider that. And at the end of the day, look, humans are extremely, we're such social creatures that in war, if you take a prisoner and you isolate them, that's against the Geneva Convention. It's such a, we know this for a fact, we're such social creatures. So we need to be able to consider all these things
Starting point is 00:39:58 and I think that the downstream effects, nobody's looking at it. And I was really sad to see my grandparents. And in just three months, I could see my grandfather didn't have a stroke or anything. He's totally, you know looking at it. And I was really sad to see my grandparents. And in just three months, I could see my grandfather didn't have a stroke or anything. He's totally, you know, otherwise healthy. And I could see his health decline
Starting point is 00:40:12 because he was not around all the people that he cares about and loves and all that stuff. Anyway, one last thing I want to say Adam, you are totally right about that new social media platform, parlor. Oh yeah, yeah. It was what, yeah, it is it is totally a conservative. Yeah, conservative. Lean dude, it is so the way they advertise it is uncensored social media like we don't you know block things unbiased
Starting point is 00:40:36 Yes, another option unbiased social media. Yeah, so I went on there and I'm looking at it and I'm like, oh, this is the conservative version of like Instagram and Facebook and that's exactly I mean Fox did the same thing too, right? They didn't come out and say, like, we're the conservative source of news when they came out with, we're the unbiased source. Very, very similar. What did they say, fair and balanced? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:57 That was their tagline. That's my favorite. But yeah, it's totally, it's a more like a response. It's gonna be interesting though. Like, I'm definitely, I'm gonna watch it closely. Oh, it's better than just one, right? I mean, I put myself on there just so I could follow it
Starting point is 00:41:13 and see what's going on because I predict that this is going to be a trend that really grows. I really do, I just think that there's a big enough market for people who wanna, like everybody likes to smell their own farts, right? And right now you've got some people feeling like that on Facebook and other people feeling like they're smelling other people's farts
Starting point is 00:41:30 and so they want to get on another platform. Yeah, that's weird. I think there's a big enough market for it. Well listen, it's called social media for a reason. It's now what media is for us. Many people get their new at my shit. My best friend gets his news from Twitter, saying like that's what most people are doing that now.
Starting point is 00:41:45 And so, there's a strong representation, I think, that is center left leaning. And we don't have a strong of a representation on the center right leaning. And you're gonna see it. So this is literally we're watching CNN and Fox happen on the social platforms. I mean, I don't see any center.
Starting point is 00:42:05 It's the, yeah, I know. Oh, that was better. Yeah, that was being being kind. Yeah, no, I haven't. I haven't left. I see 100% bias. Here's what I dream. Here's what I do.
Starting point is 00:42:14 And it's annoying, but it works. Follow people on both sides, even if you hate them, because I think the extremes are ridiculous, but I follow them anyway. Right. Just so you can, you know what people are being fed, you know, being loud about. Yeah, you know what people are being fed, and I love it because I'll see the same issue,
Starting point is 00:42:33 the exact same issue, like when the whole, what was it called, chas or chop? Yeah. Or whatever, and Seattle's kind of both. Oh my God, the way that was reported on one side and the other, it was like, they're just camping. Oh, it's a festival on the other side. It's like, it's at our can, everybody's dying.
Starting point is 00:42:48 I was like, who's right and what's going on here? And it's very interesting. Yeah, you don't know. This quas brought to you by Organify. For those days, you fall short on getting your organic veggies or whole food nutrition. Organify fills the gap with laboratory-tested, certified organic superfoods to help give
Starting point is 00:43:05 your health a performance-the-edit edge. Try Organified, totally risk-free for 60 days by going to Organified.com. That's O-R-G-A-N-I-F-I dot com, and use a coupon code MindPump for 20% off at checkout. First question is from Swayze Lifts. I've been in a deficit for several weeks and I'm seeing results, but I can't seem to First question is from Swayze lifts. I've been in a deficit for several weeks and I'm seeing results, but I can't seem to shed the last few pounds of body fat to see my abs.
Starting point is 00:43:32 Where do I go from here? So this is where I love to reverse diet you or have a, put you on a mini bulk and also switch your programming. So like after, if I have a client that I've been, our goal is to get to a certain point, and this is suit, by the way, this is very common. It's like the last place to go.
Starting point is 00:43:52 There's like these phases, like, when you first get started, it's relatively easy to see results because anything is gonna show change in your body. And then as you get leaner and leaner, it actually becomes more challenging. It might become more mentally easier because you've built consistency and behaviors and habits now and a routine, but it does get more challenging as far as the levels that you have to push
Starting point is 00:44:14 yourself through or the science that you have to apply to really get to the next level. And so when somebody is training with me and we run into this roadblock, and of course, I never let like one week be that too, because there's a lot of things that could happen. Like you could have a stressful week, it could be that time of the month, you could have other factors that are making you think you're not seeing as much results. So I never let like one week of whatever we're doing,
Starting point is 00:44:40 dictate a major shift in my programming or diet. But if you've had two or three weeks where you've really plateaued and you can't get that final last five or ten pounds or two or three percent body fat, that's normally my sign as a trainer now. Okay, now when I'm going to increase the calories for a while because you've been in a deficit, your body's obviously getting very adapted to what we're doing. I'm also going to switch gears on how we're training and programming and puts you in a different direction. And I'll only do that for a couple of weeks
Starting point is 00:45:08 and then go back to reverse or cutting you again. Well, they are saying that they've been in a deficit for several weeks and I'm seeing results. So what do you mean by several weeks? You've been in a deficit for three weeks and now you're frustrated that you can't see your abs. What body fat percentage were you starting at? I mean, it's only, if it's only a few weeks. Right, that's good point. And you're in your frustrated that you can't see your abs. What body fat percentage were you starting at? I mean, it's only a few weeks.
Starting point is 00:45:27 Right, that's good point. And you're seeing results. Yeah. It just sounds to me, it just needs to keep going. Yeah, it's like, I've been bench pressing for three weeks now, and I can't add 50 pounds to my bench yet. What's going on? Maybe you just got to do it longer.
Starting point is 00:45:39 I don't know how long you've been doing this. I tip it, if you started at, if this is a man, if you started at, you know, if this is a man and you started at 13% body fat, and you're only doing it for several weeks and you're seeing results, but not seeing your abs, that's it keep going. Yeah, yeah. You might need to get a little leaner. If it's been like six weeks, seven weeks, and you started at 12% body fat and you really plateaued, then I would do what Adam's saying.
Starting point is 00:46:03 And the reverse diet literally means you're just increasing your calories a little bit. Typically, you'll add, depending on the person, anywhere between 150 to 300 calories a day, focus on building strength and muscle. Now, here's, this is something interesting about this process. Sometimes, if you do it right, depending on the person, reverse dieting, bumping calories focusing on strength training gets you leaner too by itself.
Starting point is 00:46:28 No, that's why it's a great method. Sometimes it's like it just, that gets you leaner. Especially when you do it as calculated as what you just said, you just add about a hundred to 300 more calories, like that's not enough to put on pounds of fat. And if you also change the program at the same time, normally that is enough to do both. Like, you'll definitely kind of kick you out of that. So my advice was, I want to make that clear, if you have a plateau, but you're right, if you're still seeing results, and stay the course, you know, stay the course. And like I said, I wait for a good solid
Starting point is 00:47:00 two weeks where I feel like nothing's happening. If I've got a client on a protocol that I feel confident we should be consistently dropping and what happens sometimes is eventually we plateau out, I'm gonna like, okay, stay the course still for another week, let me evaluate what's going on. Okay, we're still at a hard plateau. Now let's make some adjustments and then that's one of the ways that I would make adjustments.
Starting point is 00:47:22 The last resort that none of us mention, because we do get a lot of cardio-type questions. Cardio is the very last thing that I want to add. I want to manipulate food and manipulate programming as many times in ways that I can before I just say, okay, now what I want you to do is 20 minutes of cardio every single day after your workout. That's an easy way to break out of a plateau,
Starting point is 00:47:48 but it's also the last way that I want to do it. That's my final, okay, we're almost right where you want to be. Okay, let's ramp up the cart. Yeah, and here's the last thing you can do. You can also try building your abs. You may be in a situation like I was years ago where I would get down pretty lean, but my abs really wouldn't really pop out.
Starting point is 00:48:06 It was because I needed to develop my abdominals. As I got them developed, I was able to see them at higher body fat percentages. We have a program called the no BS six pack formula that really focused on developing the muscles of the core in the abs so that they are visible at higher body fat percentages. Next question is from Jose M279.
Starting point is 00:48:28 What are your thoughts on fitness trackers? How do you think they are best used? Yeah, so I know you guys are really big fans of fitness trackers. I didn't use them a whole lot in my career until relatively recently. The thing I like about fitness trackers, as I've used them more recently, is they give you a better idea of your activity levels. They're not like the super accurate. Don't look at them like that,
Starting point is 00:48:54 but rather look at them as giving you kind of a picture, a wide view of what's going on. A lot of times people think differently than reality. I remember when Body Bug first came out years ago, this was one of the first legit fitness trackers. We would mess around with it with clients. I remember I had clients that we would notice that on the days that they worked out, they would actually burn less calories
Starting point is 00:49:21 than on the weekends, which sounds kind of crazy. You'd never guess that. I would never have guessed that they would burn less calories than on the days than on the weekends, which sounds kind of crazy. And you'd never guess that. Like I would never have guessed that they would burn more calories on the weekend than they did during the weekend they were working out. But then when we broke it down, because once we saw that data, I said, okay, well, what's going on is the machine broken? What's going on?
Starting point is 00:49:38 I started asking questions, okay, I know you trained with me Monday for an hour. How active are you the whole rest of the day? Yeah, what did your day look like? Oh, I, oh, you're sitting all the time. I, I sit at work all day long. Okay, well, what did you trained with me Monday for an hour. How active are you the whole rest of the day? Yeah, what did your day look like? Oh, you're sitting all the time. I sit at work all day long. Okay, well, what did you do Saturday? Because Saturday you burned tons of calories.
Starting point is 00:49:51 Well, I washed the car, mowed the lawn, I went to the mall, went shopping, you know, I was out on my feet all day till about five or six o'clock at night. And then it became quite obvious to us, oh, it was all the sex activity that you were doing. That wasn't even considered a workout, but you were burning a lot of calories.
Starting point is 00:50:07 That kind of awareness can help a lot. Yeah, I just look at it as acquiring more metrics, more data. And if that really drives you into a healthy place, I'm all for it. If you're that kind of attention to detail, oriented type person, where I don't have trained quite a few clients like this, they're in Distrava and they're into all these crazy analytics
Starting point is 00:50:31 that your average person doesn't keep track of every single rep that they're doing. Like, I have to have somebody that I trained that would actually count all the reps and would tell me at the end, how much volume he had and all the stuff based off of our workouts and you know, was driven to out do that and like things like that, where it's like a motivator,
Starting point is 00:50:53 but for a coach, I think it's helpful to just be able to kind of plot and put things out there so you actually can see more factors involved in you know that individual because what we're trying to do really is to establish what makes them unique, and where their patterns lie, behaviors, things like that. So if we can peer into certain behaviors, you do move more on the weekends, and that's an advantage on a highlight and show you why, and how to incorporate that through your week.
Starting point is 00:51:24 So if it unlocks things like that where you can understand your behaviors better, I'm all for it. If it attracts you, if you get to obsessed with it, just like, you know, I FYM, like if you're talking about, you know, like tracking all your macros constantly and you're neurotic about it and you get stuck there. Like, I, like, that's where I, like, I start to have a problem with it. And I've seen people get like too fixated on the exact data that they're doing to where stuck there. That's where I start to have a problem with it. I've seen people get too fixated on the exact data that they're doing to where that's
Starting point is 00:51:50 what drives them in all their efforts. So I'm for sure out of the three of us, the most hardcore about this, this is a mandatory thing for me, for clients, it just is. And the reason why that is is I believe in my experience that almost everybody, okay, and there's always exceptions to the rule, but for the most part, 90% of clients that I've trained are stuck in that, you know, salivates, talk about the five steps of awareness
Starting point is 00:52:16 or whatever that you always talk about. 90% of everybody is truly unaware. And the reason why- You're unaware that they're unaware. Exactly, for the first step, right? So they're stuck at the first step. Kind of distance. And the reason why I'm so confident that is,
Starting point is 00:52:31 I still am. There's very few people I've ever trained that have tracked as diligently as I have, taking it to a competitive professional level to where they were, I mean, everything I was for three years, right? And I still, you'll see, you'll see if you watch our old videos and today, like I'm not wearing mine today,
Starting point is 00:52:50 but I still utilize it all the time. Like you'll also now go on a kick where I decide like, you know what, I really wanna, you know, take my fitness up a notch right now or I wanna lean out for whatever reason. And before I do that, I strap on my Fitbit again to get an engage and idea of my, and here's what I've found over decades of using these tools,
Starting point is 00:53:09 is that even as aware as I am, even as much as tracking that I've done, my behavior is changed all the time. You know, what we're currently doing right now because of COVID, I have different movement patterns that have it right now than just four months ago. Four months ago, I made it to the mall, at least a couple of times in the month.
Starting point is 00:53:31 I grocery shopped way more often instead of getting instacarded to my house. I was going to the gym where I was having to walk out of the park. So my behaviors are all, and in that two decades, I've had three or four different career changes where different jobs require me doing different things. I found out new things about the way I eat, and so my eating behaviors changed. So I'm always using it as a way to check back in with myself and to just confirm what I
Starting point is 00:54:00 might believe, right? Oh, I think I'm doing it about this right now. Well, let's track and let's see now in and the thing that I know that like Sal and Justin like Lee, like the least about these tools. And I agree. And I think a Dr. Annie Galpin does a good job and his book unplugged kind of discussing this is we've taken the fitness space like always has taken something really good and valuable. and then we've just bastardized it. Now it's like it's this competitive market, and there's tons of money to be made in it,
Starting point is 00:54:29 and everybody's arguing over which one is three percent more accurate, which one has a better UI, which one offers this feature, which one, it's like, okay, that's where this can get so nuanced and overkill for most people. I utilize the Fitbit literally just for the, I wanna see my steps, that what it's estimating that I'm burning in calories
Starting point is 00:54:51 right now, and that's really it. That's enough to give me a really good idea of my activity level and allow me to start to build some sort of a structure, diet wise, what I don't do is I don't get hung up on the actual number. I don't go, oh, oh, that says 2700 calories a day. Therefore, I'm going to eat X amount of calories. That's not how I work.
Starting point is 00:55:09 I'm just looking at the trends. I'm just looking at the trends. And because I've done it, and when you've done this enough times, I know, like for me, what low amount of activity is, what a high amount of activity is, what is kind of an average range with that looks like. And so it gives me insight on my current behavior what low amount of activity is, what a high amount of activity is, what is kind of an average range what that looks like. And so it gives me insight on my current behaviors and my current habits of
Starting point is 00:55:31 exercise, my current habits of movement. And then it allows me to start to adjust that from there. I don't get hung up on the exact number that the tool is feeding back to me. I'm using it as a gauge. The same way that I use the scale, the same way that I use a scale, the same ways that I use a body pepper and I think they are incredible at giving people awareness of what they're doing because just like you both alluded to is most people, including ourselves, who are professionals in this field,
Starting point is 00:55:59 overestimate or underestimate. Underestimate calories and overestimate activity. Yes, every time. Every time. And I still do this today, two decades of being in this space, I still am always off a little bit. And so I think they're incredible. Now, if they become something that you are so attached to
Starting point is 00:56:21 and hung up on that it's dictating, I feel you're neurotic about it because it's functional. And a doctorated gall, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, came out. I used to pride myself on being the person where once I go a place one time, you never have to tell me directions again. I just had this like photographic memory of remembering things and street names. I was really good at that. And this when these got popular was when I was about 18 to 20 years old. And so once they came on, I thought they were really cool. They got it put into my car. Now fast forward 10 years later, I am the worst. Why can't I, I have super relying on it. I've lived in San Jose for two decades.
Starting point is 00:57:10 I still use the damn thing to go to, if I go to a new restaurant, even though I'm super familiar with this whole city, I still use the damn thing because I become dependent on it so much. So you don't wanna become like that. You don't wanna become so dependent on these tools that you can't learn to kind of figure these things out for yourself, but also don't want to become like that. You don't want to become so dependent on these tools that you can't learn to kind of figure these things out
Starting point is 00:57:26 for yourself, but also don't be a fool. They help. I'm not gonna go to a new city and go to a store I've never been to and not used my tool. That's why I bought the damn thing. I'm not gonna go get a map out and prove to myself I could figure this out when I've got the resources, but I'm also not gonna become so dependent on it
Starting point is 00:57:44 that I don't open my eyes and pay attention to my surroundings and learn what the hell where the hell I'm going. Next question is from, shall keep it fit. Any thoughts on eating for your blood type? You know, there's very, very little, if no evidence that shows that there's any, that your diet should be dictated at all by your blood type. I have seen the arguments made for why you should eat for your blood type.
Starting point is 00:58:13 Again, there's a few books that came out for that. Again, there's really little or no evidence to support it. And I would guess that maybe the little bit of evidence that they try to make might have to do with the traits that tend to follow certain blood types. Like if you're type O, like people from a certain area region of the world, there tends to be a higher propensity
Starting point is 00:58:34 of them to be type O versus type A or B or correlation stuff. Yeah, and but here's the thing, let's just say that your blood type does influence how your body reacts to food. It is but one factor among many, many, many, many factors that dictate how you should probably, I can name a few right now. I can name your microbiome, for example. Your microbiome will affect how food, how your body reacts to food.
Starting point is 00:59:00 What about the psychological aspect, the attachments we have to foods or the behaviors that we've just surround foods? What about the types of goals that you have? What about your immune response to foods? All these, there's so many different factors that determine what, how a diet is gonna be for you in terms of if it's gonna be good or bad. That just, it's like when people do the DNA testing,
Starting point is 00:59:25 and there's all my DNA tests says that I should eat mostly meat. But what if you're somebody that's super opposed to eating meat? What if you're a vegan for, you know, for reasons, for moral reasons? Well, who cares what your DNA test says? You have to consider that as well. What if your blood type, you know, test blood type test says that you shouldn't eat bread, but what if you grow up making bread with your mom
Starting point is 00:59:51 and bread is something that's real important to you and there's that value that it presents to you? Does that mean you should never eat bread? Well, no, there's lots and lots of different factors that determine how food affects you. Not to mention that a lot of these factors change as the context of your life changes and as you grow up in age.
Starting point is 01:00:09 So, the biggest thing I see. Yeah. I mean, your body's just constantly changing all the time. And I just see this as another opportunity for somebody that is looking for like one little flake of truth, right? Like this is like a big theme I see
Starting point is 01:00:25 with how these diets pop up. They see one need that they can fulfill and are one type of correlation. They've seen cases that certain people have benefited because of this way of doing things and then this becomes like a theme that they write a book about and then they profess as the way everybody should do it,
Starting point is 01:00:44 which is just never worth it. It's an easy way to market and always is. I mean, if I wrote a book that says, you know, the best diet for men and the best diet for women, right? People are like, oh, he knows me. People will buy that. Yeah. So I actually look at it exactly like every other diet. It's very, very similar, right? And it's because I know that. So by the way, I have the most popular book on this, like my old roommate came to me because he did it and was like, oh my God, it's been such a game changer for me. Because he had a healthy diet all over him. Well, and here's the thing, right?
Starting point is 01:01:11 And he was, you know, in his defense, he was actually a very healthy eater already. He just made the adjustments and changes and followed the protocol that it gave him. But what I tried to explain to him is that this is no different when a client comes to me and goes, Adam, my girlfriend is running the paleo diet and I started doing it and holy crap. I feel so much better. I lost all this weight. That's the diet for me. It's like, okay, hold on, let's unpack this a little bit.
Starting point is 01:01:33 Because what I have found in my experience, it's not the diet. It is so much as it is what you were doing before that you changed. That you now eliminated. So, and that's what I see with the blood type thing. There's a lot of the stuff that tries to support the claims for it. It mostly is mostly correlation, not causation.
Starting point is 01:01:53 It's not direct facts. This is for this blood type. It's more so, and there's people, I know listening right now. For sure, we have a big enough audience, there's probably thousands of people that have been following this diet and had great results from it. And I say to you the same thing that I say to the paleo client that comes to me or the ketogenic client or the vegan that swears by it
Starting point is 01:02:11 and how amazing it is, why don't you look into the things that you eliminated and pay attention more to that than what you're currently eating? And more than likely, that is the real key to what is going on here. And that's what's normally happening. It's normal. I don't know anybody who can say, okay,
Starting point is 01:02:29 maybe somebody who's really neurotic, but the average person that can say, I think my diet is perfect and I don't have any vices or any bad things that I allow in it. Every everybody sitting in this room would admit that there's things that they allow to kind of enter their diet that they probably is not ideal for them. And if I put you on a diet that didn't allow that in your diet anymore You'd probably feel the best you ever felt in your fucking life has nothing to do with that newfound diet as everything to do with
Starting point is 01:02:54 Whatever it was it was offending very good point because nine at a ten times when someone goes into a new diet They become far more disciplined and structured because they're following this new diet Yeah, and a lot of times that's what it is. And yeah, the blood type, again, there's no science, there's really no science that really supports any validity to this type of diet. But even if there was, again, I'm gonna play devil's advocate. Even if blood type does affect how your body reacts to food,
Starting point is 01:03:23 it is one factor among many, many, many factors. And there's one factor that nobody ever considers. Everybody looks at all the physiological stuff, but nobody ever considers the psychological stuff. And I'm gonna tell you something right now. The psychological stuff is way more important. It's way more important. When I coach clients, if I coach them specifically
Starting point is 01:03:41 on the physiology of their body and the macros and the calories. If we do that, and I have other clients that I look at the psychology, why do you eat, why do you choose to eat these foods? What are the kinds of foods that you crave? What about when you're happy? What about when you're sad?
Starting point is 01:03:56 And I coach that person based off of psychology. The one that I work with psychology and behaviors, their odds of long-term success are far, far higher than the physiological ones. Far far higher. Far far higher. Right. I have always have to ask that question before we make any kind of radical shift.
Starting point is 01:04:14 Look at that at a time. Is this sustainable and then look and see what you're eliminating, what you're replacing, and what that does, and how you feel. Do you guys remember making that switch with your clients when you stop looking at all the calories and macros and all that stuff, so much, you start talking about behaviors. It was like massive.
Starting point is 01:04:29 Oh, it's like a whole new universe. Next question is from Grace, your presence. What makes you most proud to be an American? Oh, good bra, bra, bra, bra, bra, bra, bra, bra, bra, bra, bra, bra, bra, bra, bra, bra, bra, bra, bra, bra, bra, bra, you know, I'll start this because, I'm afraid of it. Now, being proud of being something that you had no choice to be,
Starting point is 01:04:48 that's kind of an interesting question. I was born here, I didn't choose to be born here, but here's why I am proud of America itself, or why I look at it and I think it's an amazing example for the world. Now, when I think of America, I don't necessarily think of the country of America, but rather the ideas that it was founded on.
Starting point is 01:05:11 The reason why I think of that is because the ideas that this country were founded on, they were not exercised perfectly, and they still aren't. But the ideas that this country was founded on is constantly driving America to change and improve itself. I don't know of any other country that criticizes itself and is willing to change painfully. Yeah. Decade after decade, like this country. I mean, when you, if you go back to the founding of this country, the ideas that it was
Starting point is 01:05:40 founded with were truly crazy and radical when comparison to the rest of the world at that time. You had a country that literally developed a government. This was weird for the time. Nobody really did this before, but they designed a government to protect the people from government, to protect the people from tyranny. That's what the whole, if you read the constitution and you look at the framework, besides all the stuff we've added to it over the last few hundred years, if you look at the framework, besides all the stuff we've added to it over the last few hundred years, if you look at the framework,
Starting point is 01:06:07 every single thing in the Bill of Rights is designed to protect people from tyranny. One of the things that they were trying to protect people from was tyranny of the majority. One of the biggest things that people have are confused over is we call America a democracy, which is partially true. We are a democracy, but we're not a pure democracy. We're a constitutional republic, and we elect our officials democratically, meaning we vote for our officials, but we have certain things that are protected that know that a majority vote can't take away from you. For example, freedom of speech.
Starting point is 01:06:47 Your freedom of speech, even if 60% of the population votes that you shouldn't be able to say something, they can't take away your ability to say what you want to say. There's a whole other process they'd have to go through to amend the Constitution. Now, these ideas were not exercised perfectly. We had this concept of liberty that every person was born with rights,
Starting point is 01:07:10 inalienable rights. And according to the founders, it's because they were bestowed upon us by our creator, by God. So God creates everybody, everybody has these rights that nobody can take away because God gave them to you. But of course, when the country was founded,
Starting point is 01:07:23 we had slaves, women were not treated the same, they couldn't vote. So it wasn't exercised perfectly, but it was those ideas that drove government to fight for the freedom of slavery, or to free the slave, excuse me, that drove the civil rights movement, it drove to give women the ability to vote.
Starting point is 01:07:44 And it continues to drive. These ideas continue to push us to cost it refining process. Yes, to change and to grow. And it's these ideas that I think we should always defend. That's what makes me very proud. And I tell you something right now, the people that you'll tend to find who understand these things the most are the children of immigrants because there's a contrast. You know, I am the product of poor immigrants.
Starting point is 01:08:11 I know the opportunity that was provided here because of a lot of the freedoms that are here. I saw my dad came here with zero education. He was very poor. And he created a middle-class life. I had a friend whose parents escaped the Soviet Union. They're the most staunch Americans you'll ever meet in your entire life because his parents escaped
Starting point is 01:08:34 real tyranny at the time. We're definitely not perfect. We're far from perfect. I don't think perfection can ever be accomplished. But those ideas, the ideas that this country was formed on, are what continue to drive us. And again, I don't know any country that's willing to beat the shit out of itself over and over again to continue to progress and grow. And as painful as it is, it's freaking awesome. And I hear
Starting point is 01:09:01 stuff all the time I disagree with. People say things and yell things and do things that I totally disagree with, but I will always fight to defend the right to say and do those things because I believe in those concepts. Yeah, and always listen. I mean, we're the ultimate melting pot. I think that's the biggest thing
Starting point is 01:09:20 that I really appreciate. The idea of America being the place where it's so culturally diverse, it's so diverse like individuals are so different across the board. You're just not going to find that in any other place in the world where you can interact with so many different ideas and different types of backgrounds. And I think that we don't celebrate that as much as now, we try to segment that off and divide and really try to then regroup
Starting point is 01:09:53 and try to go back to old ideas of where, in other countries, everybody has the same background, same experience, same skin color, same everything. And to me, this is where all the innovation happens, is when you collectively bring everybody together and work together and unify and move forward. And I really just, that idea I just don't ever want to die. I want us all to get back to that mentality.
Starting point is 01:10:21 I've always thought the whole pride or proud thing is an interesting conversation because I like how you mentioned I don't feel proud to be American. I feel blessed. That's what I feel. I feel blessed that I'm not one generation. I'm three generations removed from this country. My family came from Mexico. I've been to Mexico enough times to be glad as shit that my great grandparents made their way this way and had kids in America. And then to your point, Justin, that I look around and say we have to be the most diverse country
Starting point is 01:10:57 and innovation so much to start here. Sure, there's tons of imperfections and areas that we can better, but to your point, Sal, that's one of the beautiful things about America is we are always evolving and changing. And I feel like we evolve and change more rapidly than almost any other country around. And I think just the fact that we are so diverse and so many people migrate and come here speaks for itself. I mean, that in itself is, I mean, you don't see that in any other country where people
Starting point is 01:11:21 are flocking to get in so bad is because it is so great and it is so diverse. And I also recognize what comes with that. Like what comes with that? Our challenges, you know, you have people with different cultures all melting in one area, we're going to have a little bit of friction. There's going to be friction. And again, to sounds point, that's what's beautiful about America is that even with all the friction and we're always trying to become better. And I think that, you know, I would like to see more empathy for each other. I think that's what we lack that sometimes. And maybe that's the prior, the pride sense. Maybe sometimes we become so proud or so, so caught up in being prideful
Starting point is 01:12:00 overall of stuff. And we should have a little more humility, excuse me, can't speak and feel blessed that we all are in this situation and have a little bit of patience and empathy for our neighbor and know that we all are working to have a better place and whether you have a belief that it should be this way or I have that way, that the end of the day, that's what's great about here is we can both agree to disagree. Well, free countries are only ever gonna be as good as its people.
Starting point is 01:12:27 That means that because we have a certain level of freedom, we have to be good moral people. And look at markets, for example, let's just talk about free markets for a second. Free markets do one thing really freaking well. They give consumer what they want, better than any other system in the world. But what if all the consumer wants is drugs, alcohol and pornography? Well, that's what you're going to get a lot of, right? So it's a reflection of us. And so we have to rise to be good people so that this system provides us what we want.
Starting point is 01:13:01 But again, it's an idea. And it's an idea that, you know, as imperfect as we've been, that idea as what's driven us to progress, you know, it wasn't that long ago. Listen, 2008, okay? 2008 wasn't that long ago. Barack Obama was campaigning to become president of the United States. He campaigned and he openly was opposed to game marriage. This is Barack Obama, Democrat president, everybody loves him. And he said, I do not think marriage should be between a man and a woman. And that changed very rapidly. Now if you said that, nobody would elect you almost nowhere.
Starting point is 01:13:39 That's very, very rapid, rapid change. Again, it's not perfect, but those ideas of liberty, of freedom, of protecting people's individual rights, which by the way, rights do not mean you have a right to other people, or to other people's stuff. It means you have a right to the stuff that you can speak, you can protect yourself, you can worship whatever way you can live the way you want so long,
Starting point is 01:14:05 as you don't infringe on the other rights of other people. But that idea is what pushes us to grow. It's also a painful one. I'll tell you what, you go to a Marxist country, you go to a country that doesn't have these protections and try to be a capitalist there. Try to speak out against what that government says you should do, they'll throw you to jail. They'll kill you
Starting point is 01:14:26 You know what the one of the here's one of the beauties of everybody knows how anti-marchism I am or anti-communism I am right well guess what you can be in America if you want to a Marxist you could literally have a you could have a pro you Can have a whole protest and a parade praising Karl Marx and in the the you know the past Soviet Union and whatever. And you're actually free to do that here. As much as I hate that and I disagree with you, tell me where you could do that in countries
Starting point is 01:14:53 that don't value liberty and freedom. They don't, so again, I know we're going through a difficult time in this country, but it's okay to take a step back and look, we've had all these protests and that's beautiful. People are going out and they're pro, and they're free. Exercise and they're right.
Starting point is 01:15:08 And they're free to do so. It's also, I mean, good to recognize too to be. It's a positive thing that we have this division of progressives and conservatives. Oh yeah. I think of it just like the way we operate our business. Bigs and balances. Right, there's always one of us who's trying to push us
Starting point is 01:15:22 in a new direction or push us faster to do something. And there's always one of us that's going, maybe we should ease in slow. I don't think we should do that yet. And together we make great progress, right? And sometimes it's a little push and pull type of feeling, but you want that. You don't want one or the other. If everybody was conservative, we wouldn't move anywhere very fast at all. If everybody was so progressive, we'd probably have a lot of hard lessons. So the fact that we have this nice division of
Starting point is 01:15:49 progressive and conservative people in this country, and we're kind of like, it doesn't need to be so angry though, it doesn't need to be like that. It's like, and that's why this is why mind pump work behind scenes. This is the way we are with the business. There's always a progressive person, there's always a conservative person in the conversation, and sometimes it flip flops. Sometimes one of us is more progressive about something, one of us is more conservative about something, and I feel like that's how our country is. I think where it gets bad is when people
Starting point is 01:16:14 start to identify with one or the other, and they feel like they have to do. I'm trying to impose those ideas by all means. Yeah, and the big problem becomes when you think the other person has a different opinion in you because they're evil Then there's nobody there's no discussions. There's no compromise There's no listening. It's your evil. That's it. Now what do you do to evil people? You punch them you kill them you silence them you jail them that is a dangerous slope
Starting point is 01:16:41 You don't want to go down rather the better approach better approach, in my opinion, is to consider, and this is the truth. I'm not saying this is everybody, but consider that most people are kind of like you. We're all, we're more similar than we are different, okay? And they're probably, they probably have their opinions because they think it's better for people. Not because they're evil, but rather because they think it's better for people. Now, their opinion's different than yours, but they also want something to happen.
Starting point is 01:17:07 That's good. So, now, let's have a conversation. Of course, if you think they're evil, I'm not going to have a conversation with Hitler. I don't want to hear your ideas. You're an evil person. Well, geez, man, if you think everybody on the other side is Hitler, you're going to have some problems.
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