Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1336: The Best Exercises to Build Biceps & Triceps, Maximizing Gains by Working Out Only 3 Days Per Week, the Pros & Cons of the Jefferson Deadlift & More

Episode Date: July 15, 2020

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about the best moves for building bicep and tricep size and strength, whether you can make gains on a 3 day a week workout schedule, the benefits of the Jefferson deadlift, and what they wanted to be when they grew up. What a great time for conspiracy theorists. (3:55) Breaking down UFC 251. (18:35) The HUGE backlash surrounding Goya Foods. (24:42) The Washington Redskins are officially changing their name. (26:57) The value of art. (30:31) Justin vs the prehistoric beetle. (33:25) Sal odd exchange with a drunk guy. (34:57) The most effective way to lower cholesterol if you have familial hypercholesterolemia. (38:20) #Quah question #1 – What are some of the best moves for building bicep and tricep size and strength? (39:43) #Quah question #2 - Can you make gains on a 3 day a week workout schedule? (44:55) #Quah question #3 - What do you think of the Jefferson deadlift? Are there benefits to straddling the bar for building deadlift strength? (53:51) #Quah question #4 – When you were a kid what did you want to be when you grew up? (58:47) Related Links/Products Mentioned July Promotion: MAPS Strong ½ off!! **Promo code “STRONG50” at checkout** What is going on at Wayfair? NXIVM Trial: How Allison Mack Lured Victims Into Sex Cult Jorge Masvidal thanks supporters after UFC 251 reportedly rakes in 1.3 million pay-per-view buys Goya CEO's Trump comments led Latinos to call for a boycott. That Goya was surprised says a lot. Here are five options for the Washington Redskins' name change, from Warriors to Redtails People with high cholesterol should eliminate carbs, not saturated fat: Study Mind Pump #1127: How To Grow Your Biceps Mind Pump #1132: How To Build Your Triceps Mind Pump TV – YouTube MAPS Aesthetic - Mind Pump Media How to Do the Jefferson Deadlift | T Nation Mind Pump Podcast - YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Saldas Defano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this episode of Mind Pump the World's Top, Fitness Health and Entertainment Podcast, we answer health and fitness questions asked by listeners and viewers just like you. But the way we open the episodes by talking about current events, we mentioned scientific studies. We talk about our own personal lives.

Today's episode, 35 minutes, the first 35 minutes was that intro portion after that. We got into the fitness questions. I'm going to give you a breakdown of the whole episode. Okay. So we open up by talking about new conspiracy theories. This is, if you're a conspiracy theory fan, holy moly, like me and Justin. Well, this is the best time ever.

This is harvesting season. Yeah, so there's a way for conspiracy theory that's really crazy. So we talk about that. Then we talk about the UFC. It was an incredible card. Adam Washington said it was a great fight, so we talked about,

so we'll leave this out on that one. Then I talked about Goya Foods and the controversy around them and how the boycott seems to have backfired with them. Then we talked about the Washington Redskins. Don't know what we're gonna call them soon, because they're gonna be changing their name. Yeah.

We talked about art and how much we value it. Justin had an experience with the bark beetle. So we told us about that. That we bastard. I talked about the drunk guy in Carmel, who gave me a compliment. And we talked about a study on the most effective way to lower cholesterol if you have familiar hypercholestralemia.

I think I said that right. Then we got into answering the questions. Here's the first one. What are some of the best moves for building the biceps and triceps? The next question, can you make gains on a three-day-a-week workout routine? The third question, what do we think of the Jefferson deadlift? This is a weird exercise. You might need to look it up if you've never heard of it, but we give our thoughts on it. And the final question, when we were all kids, what did we want to be when we grew up? Also, this month, maps strong is 50% off.

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and we'll get that shirt right out to you. Justin, what a great time for conspiracy theorists. Wow, it's like a heyday out there. Holy shit, have you guys seen, did you guys see the wayfar? I can't watch anymore. Dude, I just can't. I can't get stuck in the end too much. I keep saying that because I don't want to

like become a crazy person or anything, but it's like my wife and kids are they're gone this week, you know, they're going on vacation. I'm at home and I'm just, oh my god, look at all this, like information, it's right here. So here's how the story develops. Okay, somebody on Reddit sees something very strange, right? They go on the way fair side, which way fair sells

a lot of home products. Sometimes, you know, there's third parties in there. Shalving, you know, like, tables, all that stuff. Yeah, just like, kind of like Amazon, right? And this person notices that there are these cabinets, regular cabinets, like you would put your books or whatever in. And some of them are being sold for like $10,000, $15,000, which is weird. And it's not just one, there's several of them, so that's kind of strange.

Exotic hardwood. And every single one is, the price doesn't make any sense. There's one left in stock for each of them. And then to make it even weirder, the cabinet would have a strange name on it, like Annabelle cabinet, you know, Samaya cabinet. And they're all the same. They're all like these white cabinets.

Couldn't, they're like, this is very weird. Yeah, why does this one so much more expensive? Yeah, and so then this person, you know, and this is the thing about the internet that I love, it's like they're the best like detectives of all time, not necessarily because they're accurate, but because they'll make a connection with something. Right.

So then they connect the names of these cabinets to missing children. So it's like, Somai,aya cabinet, $15,000, and then boom, they'll find a missing thing for a girl named Samaya, whatever. It was 15 years old, right? 15 years old, yeah, you see Annabelle five, or like, it five years old.

You know, and so it's like, you're like, oh my, is this, is this true? Is this, like, this is too crazy. So it's for me to take in right now. It's spread on Twitter, like crazy, so much so, cause usually conspiracy theories don't get mainstream attention. This one was getting some mainstream attention

and then Wayfarer came out and said, oh no, no, no, that's not true. That's not true because it's a mistake and they started taking them down. So at first everybody was like, oh, it's just a crazy glitch or whatever. But the internet slew, but it keeps going, kept going to work, and they found pillows, throw rugs.

Like, because at first what Wayfar said is they said that the cabinets are industrial, great. Oh, they're priced that way. It's $10,000 because it's a special cabinet. So everybody was like, it's all good. Yeah, and it keeps moving on to a lot of these other types of businesses that sell goods online. They're starting on to a lot of these other types of businesses that sell goods online. They're starting to find a lot of these similar items

that are being sold and you're questioning what? Why is this so expensive? Dude, what's happening? Stuff that should not be this price like pillows, pictures, posters, you know, a diaper genie, like weird shit that okay, there's no, I've never seen a pillow that costs, unless it's like encrusted in diamonds, or it contains a child, is gonna cost them.

So it's really, really weird, and it's now they're finding it on Amazon, they're finding those, and then when they're looking at the comments underneath some of the stuff, it's kind of creepy, someone else took this, like a skew, put it on this like Russian search engine, and it had like very like weird pictures. Completely different.

Yeah, I know. You know, and shit. So it's fucking weird. Well, yeah, no, it's crazy. And it's like, and then you start thinking like, how would they, you know, be able to do all this trading back and forth and get away with it in a way? They use their own code.

They find ways of using other platforms like this to actually get away with this kind of. To longer the money. Yeah, you know? So this is, this is, see, they're money laundering or it's a child trade. There's something going on. Two things that, okay, so I went down the rabbit hole

as well as you did. Yes, I did. And the two things that seem weird to me, that don't add up, I should say, one, the girl who found this, okay, the girl you saw on Twitter, do you know that this is like part of what she does, right? Is she's looks for like,

Yeah, she's one of those people, right? Yeah. So that already is fishy to me, right? The other thing that doesn't add up to me is that the photos don't align with every other photo that's on Wayfair. So Wayfair, if you look at every normal piece of furniture, is shot professionally with the type of camera

and uploaded a certain way, and those are not. So that to me screams like, Dr. D'Lito Shopped. Right, Dr, Photoshopped, whether that be from the people that found it, and then fake screen shot it, or whatever, and then Photoshopped it, or somehow got hacked that even Wayfair

wasn't even a part of all this. Well, there's third parties on there. So they might not even be aware that their site is being used to longer money. And they found this too, even in YouTube, where they found a way that the pedophiles were talking and communicating to each other and the trauma and such. This is true. That's true. And so it's like, it's not a huge leap to think that something like this could happen using other platforms. Dude, I saw one guy who he, because these, I tell you, these people

are crazy, right? These conspiracy theorists. I don't mean necessarily crazy, although a lot of them are. I mean crazy in that, they find crazy details. One guy was zooming in on the pictures of some of these things that were for sale, like a pillow or whatever, and you know, they staged the room, right? So they'll post a picture of a pillow

or post a picture of a bed that's for, you know, 20 grand. And then in the background, you'll see like a bookshelf. So he's zoomed in on the books that were in the back. And through using this, there's apparently there's a website that you can post a picture to that you find. And it'll show you if the pixelations match and you can see if something's photoshopped. So he used that website and he says, these books were photoshopped. So they changed the titles of these books were Photoshop, so they changed

the titles of these books. And no, the titles that were on there, that were on the wafer site, were the ones that looked like they changed, and they were changed to, I forgot the name of the books, but these are creepy books about like murder, child, you know, abduction, like he's like, they're signaling to each other

is what his theory was. Dude, it was a bad weekend, let me tell you. Yeah. I was content. Yeah, let's do it. Well, the fact outweigh. We got caught in there. The fact outweigh for had to speak out

and then what they said, yeah, what they said was, that was fishy to me too. The response was kind of, because the original response was almost like, they tried to justify the price of these cats. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, like, like, why not be like, oh, we're gonna investigate this. Or why not just be like, I don't know what this is. Yeah, I don't know what this is. We do close that. Because that's what doesn't make sense. It doesn't make

sense to me that everything else on the website looks professionally shot and like, as is if it had to be approved by Wayfair to be put up on them. Well, this is unverified, but I'm going to say it anyway. There was somebody on there who was like claiming that they worked at Wayfair. Oh, I read some of these. Wayfair, yeah, right. So this was another sort of a theory that there was like a diamond group or a platinum group that handled more of the bigger accounts. So like the goods that were like more expensive than the regular items, they would like manicure

and basically have all the talking and exchanging those goods internally within that platinum group. The rest of everybody that worked there didn't even, they'd have to just pass it along. And so then they would like handle it. This is where this gets crazy now, right? Because Doug, how many people have worked for Wayfair? I'm guessing tens of thousands. Oh, it's a huge company. Right. So now here comes all the people that are,

they're fucking mad, right? That used to work. They're piling on. Right. So now I'm reading all these things of people saying, like, oh my God, there was actually boxes that were labeled ASAP and we had to move them within an hour's time show. And they weighed about 110 pounds and.

Oh, dude. I bring that up to save everybody. You know, going down that hole. I saw one that was really weird. There was one that were paintings or pictures. And they were like children's pictures. They look like whatever, like a kid dream or something. There were three of them. And it was, I don't remember what the price,

it was something that didn't make any sense. Like $15,000 for these three pictures. Then the three pictures, when the person looked up the specs, and it's literally, they're like, I don't know, 14 inches by, it's like a small, three small pictures that you would put up on the wall. Then in the specs, one of them weighed 25 pounds. And I have the one way 36 points, something pounds.

Like how do these weigh that much unless they're trying to show you and I was like oh no Yeah, this could get this could this you could go down this rabbit hole and everything can I make you feel like this is true I'm glad people are looking into stuff like this though, you know I'm even if it's not like all completely Verified like there's probably some instances where, this could happen, this is a likely scenario. Well, the one of the week, because the internet is so decentralized,

and a lot of these companies are really just kind of middlemen, like Amazon, right? They, or YouTube, like YouTube hosts videos. And you know how many people upload, you know how many people upload videos every single day on YouTube? How do you manage all that? You can't, right? So they put in algorithms to notice certain things

or whatever, but technically if you're smart, you could get around it and people have done this, like what Justin said with pedophiles communicating in the comments, they proved that to be a real thing. YouTube had to go in and investigate. It's not totally unreasonable to think that they would longer money this way. Wait, fair doesn't work this way though.

Wait, fair is not like an Amazon or a... I thought they did have third parties. No, I don't think so. I'm not mistaken. No, I don't think so. Oh, that would suck. No, I mean that they were in on. Well, that's just it.

That's why it's again weird and fishy to me because it's not a site like that. It's not a site where you can bring your furniture and sell it on there. Doesn't work that way. It's all wafer stuff. It is. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

It's just like living spaces. I have a bunch of wafer stuff in my house. No kids came in a box. You know, they were all, it was all normal shit. Yeah. And it's all there, as far as I know, it's all there brand, just like living spaces has theirs. Now, what I will tell you,

which, here's a part that's weird for me because I'm not the conspiracy guy. Yeah, you're not just an eyeglasses. Yeah, you guys are way more. So we need so many to balance it out. But here's the thing that is weird though. Oh, no, it says here that you can sell on wafer. That people can sell their own stuff on wafer.

The thing that I tripped out on, and I told, I remember the first time that, so this was just three years ago three years ago When we moved I told Katrina I don't want to bring anything that we have so we like literally you guys remember like Why sold everything sold everything and then and got all new stuff and everything that we bought from was living spaces in Wayfarer and up to that point. I wasn't very familiar with the companies So we go there and there's there's one over here in Fremont, there's another one over I think in like Dublin area, we have like two or three near the Bay Area and I went to, went to

these places. Now have you guys been to one of these before? I have. And what you said made perfect sense back then. I remember what you said. It's enormous. It doesn't even, it makes Costco look like a little liquor store. I mean, it is, when you walk into it, it has to be one of the most amazing buildings I've ever seen.

I mean, they're just the property to own that property in the Bay Area has to be bejillions of dollars, just to own it. A number we never heard of. And then, yeah, and then you walk in and it's filled. I mean, it is filled as far as the eye could see, football field lengths of furniture from, I mean, it's just like, how much capital do you have to have

to be in? So I remember telling Katrina that, when I'm like, holy shit, where does it, and where does this company come from? You said it on the podcast, you're like, I don't know how they make money. Yeah, how do they profit, you know, with all that? Cause that's a lot of sunk capital,

it's a lot of investment. And I know. You got to have big, now I know, now I know that they're worldwide. I know they're massive. I know they started on the East Coast. So this could have been a company that's slowly grown and under me never knowing who the hell they were.

It's all recently coming over to California, but man, I remember seeing it going, this just doesn't add up to me. Well, somebody connected them to the Clinton Foundation and how they worked with the Clinton Foundation, which the Clinton Foundation, according to the conspiracy theorists, connects to all these.

Oh, man. Dude, look, this is the truth now. This is not a conspiracy theory. The amount of people being investigated and arrested in sex trafficking, human trafficking has exploded over the last four years. What's that group? Okay, there was that one actress from Smallville who was helping that dude. Is it Nexium?

What was the name of that group? Nexium. Nexium based a brand, these women. And they actually had women recruiting these women for basically to network powerful women and CEOs and like, in tech. And that's not- This is real, okay? So if you don't believe me,

you could pause the podcast, look this up. They've been, they're going to jail. Like there was a group. Yeah, it was a cult called Nextium. And one of the actresses from Smallville forgot her name, Blonde Girl, whatever, was part of it. She actually would recruit for this guy. They would bring in these girls and promise them that they'd get, you know, you get in

on the Hollywood action or whatever, but you'd have to provide us with compromising photos or videos to time, you use the blackmail and you had this huge network of sex trafficking. There it is, Alison Mack is her name, she's arrested. So they've been, not only, they are for sure going to jail for this, this is a real thing. So here's the other crazy part of it. And so these are all, all these women that were connected to this and they're all coming forward and saying that they got branded literally.

Branded? They brand them right, like, you know, and they're in your fire, like, you know, pelvic bone. Fucking weird, right? Fucking weird. Well, here's the crazier part. The Nexium group owned 11 childcares in Mexico. Facilities.

And so now they're investigating these childcare facilities and they're saying, were they using this as a way to get a nap or who knows? Disgusting. Like, seriously evil shit. And this is real. This is not a conspiracy theory. So, more real shit.

I'm gonna transition us out of the fucking conspiracy theory. There we are. Did you guys, any of you guys watch the UFC this weekend? No. Okay. The greatest UFC card ever. Really?

No way. Yes. Epic. I mean, three title fights. Even the fights on the undercard were just every single fight was amazing. It's just a great fight. Now here's the part that we're about, I don't know, halfway through it. And I was teasing Katrina because she was like multitasking.

I'm like, what are you doing? These fights are incredible. She's like, I are you doing? Like, these fights are incredible. She's like, I know, I know, I know, that she keeps getting on her phone doing work and stuff. She goes, I don't know what it is. And I'm all without the fans. So this is the part that was trippy. And I commend UFC.

They did an incredible job. I got to look up, maybe Doug can look up the UFC. I think it's UFC 251 was the number, what it was on pay-per-view streams, how it did. Because I imagine with nothing going on in sports, most people, besides YouTube, Necklace, were probably watching it. And it was the most amazing card that Dana has probably put together ever. But because there was no crowd, so you could hear, now I liked it.

And you could hear the punches. Oh, and you could hear the coaches every the coaches yelling and talking to them It reminds you of like you obviously guys who watched the UFC the show right? Yeah, the reality show tough or yeah tough for whatever that what are couldn't contender or whatever So it was like that because you could hear everything and then afterwards I thought was a cool feature when the fight was over Because they don't have Joe Rogan in the ring interviewing or doing with that the The fight was over because they don't have Joe Rogan in the ring interviewing or doing with that.

They would actually get on the headset. So the fighter who won afterwards, get on the headset and talk about his fight afterwards. And the fights were good. And the fights were amazing. But I have to say that even as amazing the fights were, I didn't get that same rush of energy because you had these fights that were, I mean, just so good. And I was told Katrina when we got into it, I was like, you know, I can envision what would the crowd,

they would be like, oh, you would hear the whole crowd, normally, because the fight was so close and so good, and none of that. What did that do for like the finishing? Because you know how when one of them gets hurt just a bit, and then the crowd sees that, and they go, and then that pumps up the fighter to then pile on, did it affect how they were like fighting?

So that's hard to say, right? You'd have to ask the fighter what it was like for them. I would imagine as a fighter, you probably appreciated it, right? It was quiet, you could hear your coach. I would, I personally, because I've competed and I've been competed in front of crowds and the crowd plays a factor because you're...

You can either be anxious or now people are watching you or maybe it drives you. Right, fuels you. I always performed better when there wasn't a crowd because I didn't feel like I was being rotten right. Yeah, so I imagine it favors some and then it hurts others. I imagine if he was a Connor McGregor fighting, he thrives off the crowd. Right. Right. So he feeds off of that energy. Right. Where if you're somebody who's maybe an underdog or maybe you're not as popular and you get more nervous with everybody yelling

and stuff like that, now you can just be laser focused. You can hear your coach giving you cues. It definitely made for incredible fights, whether that was the pairing that Dana did a such a good job on or not. But as a spectator, they were great. And what I wonder is, man, if they had a crowd behind that, how much more would I have been excited about this fight? And if they were not great fights, how much of a, like a, it's the reason why old sitcoms had a laugh track in the background.

Right, yeah. I thought of the exact same thing, actually. You say that. I was like, I wonder if there would be any value of having like a fake crowd for you this year. Yeah. Like here would every, oh, ah, every time a punch happens. We do, we get jazzed by the crowd.

You know, we feel like we're part of something and it changes the feeling of it. Who fought? Who put the card up, Doug? Put UFC 251 up on the screen. Is that one guy, what's his last name? Mende, Mendevel or what's his name? Hispanic dude, long hair.

Did he fight? All right. Yeah, he stepped in. He wasn't supposed to fight. That was the main event, right? The main event, he stepped in for, oh my God, I can't think of the name right now. Pulled the card, Doug, so we can go through every single fight

and I'll tell you how it went down. Okay, yeah, cause there's something I wanna tell you guys about that guy in particular. I can't remember his name Jorge. No, it's M.A.Y. is his last name. I don't I didn't know much about him. My cousin was talking about him. He was supposed to be the underdog that was going to upset him and that fight could have went either way when you watched it.

It was such a good fight. Let's see here. Just you. You have C251 card. There you go. Yeah. So it was been fought him. There he is right there. Oh, M.A.S. Sorry, not M.A.Y. Oh you go. Yeah. So it was been fought him. There he is right there. Oh,

M.A.S. Sorry, not M.A.Y. Oh, yeah. No, no. Okay. Oh, okay. You see on the right? Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah. That's the guy. Okay. So did you guys know how he first got kind of discovered? So I know he's been like a long time fighter. And he's just exploded in the last like year two. That's why I didn't know who he was. So, so do you guys remember those YouTube videos with Kimbo Slice and he's fighting in the backyard and like ramming? Okay. So Kimbo Slice, that's how he made his,

that's how he got popular, right? Jorge was, I think that's Jorge, I'm pronouncing it right. He, he, so Kimbo Slice organized some fights that didn't involve him. And he was one of the guys at the video went crazy It went viral because he walks in and he's like off the streets He fights another dude. That's real tough and he was just a he was brutal. Oh, he was a badass I mean the fight was great and honestly like I mean it was been totally strategically beat him

So he comes in, right? Jorge comes in with a, I think it was like a two week notice. Something crazy. Drops 20, something pounds to come to fight him. Wow. Yeah. And it was a great fight. It would.

New diet coming out soon. Yeah. The two week 20 pound diet. And same thing. Same thing for the second one was amazing, amazing fight. I actually thought that Max Holloway actually won the fight. He didn't. Those are all those are all.

I'll they'll lost again. All three of those are title fights. Oh, wow. So, so that guy Jorge, he came out and defend. Did you guys hear about the whole thing with Goya foods? You heard happen? I didn't. So Goya foods is a privately owned company owned by the grandchildren of Spanish immigrants,

so it's like an American success story, right? And they make, you've seen Goya Foods. They make all kinds of Hispanic-based foods, very, very popular. One of the number one selling providers in America of Hispanic foods, loved by many families. I bought a lot of the products. Anyway, this guy comes out and he speaks. I think Trump was doing a speech or something and he comes out and all this and that. Well, huge backlash, right? So the left calls for a boycott on Goya Foods for speaking out in support of Donald Trump. And they start this whole thing about boycotting them. Well, it seems to have totally backfired because the opposite effect happened with people and Hispanics supporting

Goya Foods because it's an immigrant owned company. They like the food and the guy comes out and I was like, look, here's why I support them. So agree or disagree, but I need I should be able to say what I want without, you know, people going crazy, whatever. So they're actually getting more sales, it seems, of the result of this back. I think people, yeah, and I don't necessarily think people agree or disagree. I think people might be sick of the boycotting companies for, you know, right? Especially if they have good products. It's like, it's tough at the end of the day.

Like politics get involved and then all of a sudden now we can't enjoy, you know, products we used to. Well, so what I did when this all started, I saw this and I kind of a sudden now we can't enjoy products we used to. Well, so what I did when this all started, I saw this and I kind of predicted, I'm like, I don't think you guys remember when I was trying to look them up and seeing if they were publicly traded? Okay, so when this all happened, I'm like, I bet you, because what a difficult company to attack. First of all, he didn't really say anything that was that crazy.

Plus, it's an immigrant-owned, Hispanic company. I'm like, I bet this is gonna backfire. So I went on and to see if they were public trading. So I'm like, I bet you their stock is gonna go up, but they're not. They're a privately owned company. So, yeah, yeah. Well, these C2 in terms of like that whole cancel culture

kind of stuff. Like the Washington Redskins are gonna be officially changing their name. Do they say what they're gonna change the name to? No, that's what I was like gonna throw that out there and speculate. Like I wonder what, you know, what they're gonna pivot to and like what kind of name options are out there, even for them. Yeah.

Are they still gonna represent like Native Americans? Or are they gonna completely change? Cause how would you know? No, they wouldn't change it completely. Right. I would think, yeah, they would try to a some semblance of what it used to be Yeah, I don't think they were like the Washington natives. No, it's just like how the bullets went to the wizards You know, they're gonna go completely opposite you think so yeah, yeah, I would think I would think

Washington white skins They're not gonna do that they'll do something Yeah, no, no, no, no, no. Yes. Oh my gosh. So the bullets. Now that's stupid. At the same time they were coming after the Washington Reskins and trying to get them to change. And so, and of course this is what's going on with the climate. Yeah. Well, you know, they're going to have to change it from wizards I'm assuming, because wizards is gender, right? That's a man, you know. Oh God, how does it sound?

I don't know. I think you can fucking say that about anything. Yeah, warlocks. Yeah, exactly. Well, now what do you guys think? Do you guys think the market is going to punish them or is going to reward them for this change? What do you guys think?

I don't know, because I feel like there, it seems like there's this real even split in our country right now of people that are for this type of stuff and then the people that are not. So I guess the better question is, are there more NFL supporters that fall in line with that than that don't, right? Because I really don't you feel like that?

I feel like it's a split of people that think that, you know, Anchimai Ma needs to come off the fucking syrup and you know, what are the other't you feel like that? I feel like it's a split of people that think that, you know, Antjima needs to come off the fucking syrup and, you know, what are the other ones that are getting pulled? There's so many of these that are getting pulled and changed. I think that, I don't mind if things get changed this way. I mind when they get changed by mob and vandal.

And then, because that's just, there's a proper way to do, I don't mind. I'm just curious to see what the market's gonna say because it seems like the NFL is trying to stay ahead of this kind of scrutiny. So they're making changes ahead of people. There's a lot of silly ones out here. This one actually is, I mean, redskins.

Like it's kind of, yeah, like I could see where people get offended by that. Yeah, but it would be interesting because you figure, I'm not a big sports fan, but I have family members that are, and the ones that are hardcore fans are deep, like they're deep fans, like I have family members that are 49er fans, where it's like, the baby's first, one Z is a 49er thing,

and their house has stuff in there that's foreign and it's their aunts and uncles and grandparents. It's like a religion. So because the redskins have been around since 1930, whatever, I wonder if these, there's these hardcore fans. Well, they're gonna be pissed, you know? Yeah, for sure.

It is a tribal thing. Like you do, like you said, like people paint their houses, like I've seen crazy stuff. Clearly, the face painting and all this, like to go to the game. So yeah, the hardcores are gonna not be happy about the stuff. Would you guys do this weekend, by the way? She has a good weekend?

I was relaxing, didn't we? It was hot here. Oh, you had no AC? It was real hot. No, no, my AC's been fine. Oh, yeah, yeah, no, that's been fixed right. We went out to the beach, so we drove down there for a day, hung out, it was beautiful down there.

Yeah, we went to Carmel because Jessica's like, we have a spot on our wall, she's been moving, you know, when you're, I guess when you're pregnant, you want to change everything in the house. So, no, she's done a lot of good things, but this is definitely an instinctual thing, right? But she, there was a space on the wall and she wants, she's like, hey, wouldn't it be fun

to put a piece of art on the wall? And I like yeah, let's go to you know target and whatever she's like no like a real like Let's what if we shopped for like a legit like piece of art something that is nice and that I'm out of some really cool spots. Well, so I'm like okay, you know I could do that. I guess we could do that. Yeah, there's a bulldog piece At one of them did you go to all the art places? We went to all the ones we could find and we're walking in and I'm looking at, and nothing really spoke to us luckily because,

because they're like eight grand. Oh yeah, 10, 20 even. Yeah, I'm like, did you go in this? There's one that there's a guy who paints, and I want his to, he's got this bulldog. He has bulldog art like all of that. I know, I walked in there.

Did you see it? I want that, that birds is a big tall piece. Yeah, how much was that? Oh, it's like 12,000 No, no, it's like 20 something. Yeah, dude. I want that piece so I don't like art that much You know say I saw we're looking at like I don't know base The stuff's real let's nothing really spoke to us, but you know I'm trying to think what would be a price that I would be willing to pay? Well, the thing though, wouldn't be eight grand. Yeah, but here's the thing with art, right? It tees me all you want with the sneakers and stuff like that,

but they hold value. And especially pieces like that, if you have an artist who it's one of a kind, there's no more replicas of it or any other pieces out there, there's replicas, but there's no other real pieces like that. You know, as long as he's a good artist, and that you continue to hold that piece, it ain't gonna get cheaper.

And if you were ever hard up, you should be able to sell that piece of art for what you bought it for, or potentially more. So it's just tying up $20,000 on your wall. That's the thing. It's just hard to justify sometimes. Yeah, yeah. It would have to really, really communicate to me,

for me to spend, you know, even a thousand dollars. Like the dogs playing poker, like I get it. Yeah, that's fun. It has to be something I put up and, you know, I look at it and I was like, oh, it affects me. You know what I mean? I'm glad I spent a thousand dollars, 20,000 dollars, the painting needs to talk to me

and tell me secrets. So not just the bunch of splatters. Well, I guess, I guess there's that area though You've done so if it's something that's a thousand or under a thousand the likelihood that it holds its value or maybe worse something Sure, five ten years from now. I'm just saying if I spend 20 pounds of painting I want the magic mirror from sleeping beauty or whatever I want to put it up and be like what are the lottery numbers? Yeah I want to put it up and be like, what are the lottery numbers? Did you see, like at the beaches,

like how filled they are? Oh man, so I was in San Cruz and we saw that and we actually got to go to this. This one restaurant I love finally opened up again. We were like the second customer for them. So that was cool. I was like hanging out with Courtney with that, but we went to the pool that just opened up close to us

and just the residents were able to go, but they had like such like, let me take your temperature, like we had like little sections by our cell, we had to wear the mask and everything and then we'd go in. But there was this one spot where it catches all the bugs and stuff.

And I was swimming in there and this bug floated right past me into that little drain thing. It was the biggest fucking beetle like I've ever seen, dude. In a bowl? Yeah. Have you ever heard of bark beetles? Yeah.

Yes, they are. Dude, I'd never seen one. I was like, is this from Africa? What is this thing? You know, like prehistoric bug, man. And then I saw another one like at my house, like that night. It flew. I'm like, is this thing? You know, like prehistoric bug, man. And then I saw another one like at my house, like that night, it flew. I'm like, is something happening? Is there like, you know, murder hornets now to bark beetles?

What's happening? One of those bugs that if you step on them, they smell, we bad? Oh, the stink bugs. Stink bugs. That makes sense. Yeah, so I guess if you step on those, they stink everything up. Is that real? Yeah.

Does that really happen? Yeah, they do. Like in some of them spray you. Oh, look at that. They stick their butt up in there and they transparent. Heels in a pool though would have probably turned me off. I've had to be now that pool person. Yeah, man. I was like, we're just come from and then I showed Courtney and she almost like passed out. So, dude, why we were walking in Carmel, you know, there's lots of people outside or whatever and we're walking back to the car and

there's these dudes walking towards us. And you know, I think when when you reach a certain age, you can sense that as a guy is walking towards you, he's going to say something. You know what I mean? Like, there's going to be some, I can just feel it, right? So these dudes are walking towards us and they look like they're probably late 30s. They look like those guys that lift weights, take some steroids, but eat shitty. You know what I'm talking about? Kind of red and bloated and they had the,

Puffy and had a hearty shirt on, so they like they never left no lats in the room. Yeah, superlats in or whatever. Yeah, whatever. They never left the 90s or whatever. So they're walking towards us. One guy's got his arm around the other guy and like, oh, they're drunk.

They're gonna say something. Sure enough, dude walks by. He's staring at me and I'm like, oh, so I turn around and, you know, I'm pretty good at diffusing situations. Didn't have to. The dude stops and he goes, man, you're really fucking handsome, bro.

I'm like, what? Wow. And he goes to hug me, bro. Come give me a hug, dude. I'm like, no, I'm social distancing, dude. I'm gonna give you a fist bump like that's the weirdest It wasn't like like that like that's that's pretty amazing Jessica was like

That's something to be proud of right there I was at the gas station with Courtney were a bit ready to go over the hill and there was this guy like in an old Like a Mustang 5.0, that was sick, it was all tricked out and everything. And the guy was so great. He had those glasses that were kind of rainbow, like meered out, you know those are back in style, right? Oh my God, he has spiky hair.

It was like a flashback. He might as well have pukeshells on. That's all coming back right now. Wow. The big, you remember Oakley's the the Oakley razor blades and the yeah, and the big mere glasses Yeah, that's like he had like shaved like bricks like in the sight of his head. No, we do I swear to God And so he starts driving by like like like close to where I was like filling up and I'm looking at him and I'm like

Oh my god this guy. I'm like sick car, bro He's like, he's like, yeah, brother. Like, he was like peels out. Was he young or was he old? He was a young guy. Yeah, yeah. He was a young guy. He was like 20s.

And then I'm in there like, and I'm joking with Courtney. Like we're joking about it. And I'm, you know, this DB over here. And the kids heard me say that. And they're like, what's DB, dad? Oh, where'd he go? What's DB? Did you think fast and make some shit up?

Or did you talk? No, so I don't say. Don't bite or something. No, we told him it's like, this is something we only say within our family, but it's a really funny, because we called it out. We're like, it's douchebag. And they're like, well, we didn't explain what it was or anything, but like, you know, they had a great time saying it because it's like, this is a funny, this is a funny word.

This way to get it called from the teacher. I know. I know that. And in my, you know, their, their friends parents, you know, I'm like, dude, okay, if I hear about this, you know, you're in trouble. Oh, dude, what was, who was that football player played for the Raiders? It was a big in the 90s. White dude, blonde hair, flat top would get the lines.

Do you know what I'm going to talk about? the Raiders, it was a big, in the 90s, white dude, blonde hair, flat top would get the lines. Do you know what I'm gonna talk about? Yeah, you're talking about, they did a whole 30, 30 on him. He looked like that, right? Like what Justin's expecting. Roman asking. Roman asking.

Is that what it is? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's who I'm thinking of. No one for his hits and shit. No, he was a mean player, man. I think so. Hey, before we transition to the questions, cool study just came out about the most effective way

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or internet articles would say something like, you know, barbell curls for biceps, skull crushes for triceps, you know, those free weight isolation exercises are good for building mass in those two muscles. However, I don't think they build nearly as much muscle as a compound exercise would for those two areas. And this is something that I learned later on in my career. I understood this with legs. If you were to compare the biceps and triceps

to your legs, which would be maybe your quadriceps, or like your hamstrings, or like your triceps, and your hamstrings would be like your biceps, what are the best exercises for quads? None of them include isolation exercises. All these compound lifts, like barbell squats and front squats and that kind of stuff. Same thing is true for biceps and triceps.

Palms up or supinated grip, pull ups or chin ups, really focusing on squeezing the biceps. Amazing exercise for building the biceps. It's a pull up but it really works the biceps really well. And you're obviously using a lot more weight because it's compound lift. And then for triceps, like a closed script bench press or dips, those will build more strength and muscle

than any other isolation exercise I can think of. We did a whole episode on these. So if this is someone new to listening to the podcast and we touch on that among other things on the episode. The other thing is like frequency, right? So, I agree the biggest thing or best exercise ever that put size on my triceps were an I would prefer incline, but I mean close grip bench press.

And it's just, it's simple. If you do skull crushers or you do these isolation excise, just look at how much weight you can do with those. Maybe if you're really, really strong, you're doing a, you know, a hundred pounds or so, you know, give or take on skull crushers. But I mean, you could load a, you could load a barbell with, you know, maybe two 25. Yeah, the same person with your two 25. Right, right right so you can just load it way more um and then just learning to focus on using the triceps more than your your delts your chest when you do an exercise like that and then back to what I was

my point with frequency it's just increasing the frequency that you're you're hitting those muscle groups I think that's normally the go-to before I get into like major exercise selection very very rare that it's like somebody who's trying to grow their buys and tries and they haven't tried all these different exercises. It's normally that they're programming just need some work and normally it's somewhere where you increase frequency is what ends up helping the most. Yeah, it's definitely about like you mentioned the load in terms of like an exercise that you're going to go through this exercise knowing that you can actually load a substantial amount more, but

it's about creating the lot of signal with that. So the most forced demand. So I have to be able to recruit quite a bit more muscle fibers throughout my body to produce one of these compound lifts or one of these other more involved type exercises. And that adds up to your muscles, even on the individual level, your muscles get benefit from that

and tend to respond quite more substantially than just these isolated exercises. And if you look at the program, so a MAP Maps aesthetic is a good example of when you're trying to target a muscle group and develop it, that whole program is designed around picking a muscle group that you want to develop more. If you unpack the programming, you have your three foundational days where you're doing these major compound lifts. Then we have what are called focus days, which are on the opposite days where you're doing these major compound lifts. And then we have what are called focus days, which are on the opposite days,

where you're doing that more isolation. So the cable pushed down, the basic dumbbell curls, the isolation type of exercises as volume builders on the other two days. But you're hitting your arms technically, three to five times a week. If you do that, they're gonna grow,

especially if you're doing it well and programming it well with good compound exercises and then isolation exercises to complement that. Yeah. So here's a good example. I'm going to give you a generic kind of good tricep and bicep workout. So for biceps, you could do your supinated grip pull ups, really focusing on the bicep squeeze at the top.

Start with that. The next exercise would be like a barbell curl, and then maybe a hammer curl, great mass-building, muscle-building combo right there for triceps. I would do either weighted dips or close grip bench press to start with. Then you could do a skull crusher, which is the technical term as a lying tricep extension. Then an overhead trisip extension. And then an overhead trisip extension. Great combination, those three exercises, do them in the order I just said.

And for a lot of you listening, it'll list it some pretty good results. Next question is from Eli Hall, double zero. Can you make gains on a three day a week workout schedule? Oh, 80% of you listening right now, at least 80% of you listening right now, at least 80% of you listening right now will make the best gains on a three day a week workout schedule. A full body, three day a week routine for most people

and compare it to all the other body parts split and five day and six day a week routines, 80% percent or more of you will do better on the full body three day a week routine. And I remember when this became glaringly obvious to me. It was again later in my career and I figured this out for my clients well before I figured it out for myself. For some reason, and I think a lot of trainers fall prey to this, you think that you're different.

It doesn't really apply to me. Not like my clients or whatever, but I would get these advanced clients that would hire me, especially as it became more experienced. And I had good referrals and people who were experienced who had good, you know, exercise knowledge would come hire me and they'd been working out already. And oftentimes I would start them on a 3D a week routine.

And one of the reasons why I would do that was my schedule was kind of full. And it was better for me to train more people three days a week than it was to train less people at five days a week. And the other part was I had this philosophy. Well, let me try this and see how this works if it doesn't work, then we'll try something else. And every single time, the three day week full body routine produced the best gains that

they'd ever seen. And when I finally applied it to myself was when I looked at old body building and muscle building publications. I mean, old way back at the turn of the century, the early 1900s and 1920s, 1930s, back when strong men and strength athletes didn't take steroids or supplements or anything,

they all worked out this way. Steve Reeves worked out or supplements or anything, they all worked out this way. You know, Steve Reeves worked out this way. John Grimick worked out this way. Look them up. You'll see for yourself what they look like. These guys were natural for most of their career. So I remember, I applied it to myself, and I'm glad I applied it to myself later on my career because after you trained for about six, seven years consistently, you know

right away when something works. I remember the first time I did it, I got stronger right away. And I was like, Holy cow, this is the way most people work. Yeah, it's just funny because I fell into that trap of more is better, more is better. And that was just something that was always reiterated to me from my coaches. And you know, like whatever work you put in, you're going to, you're going to get back 10 fold. And so, you know, to fall back, I would always kind of fall back

into this three day a week regimen because what I did in between, and we have to differentiate between like the workouts of this three days versus what you do in between. And I'm still working out technically, you know, the days in between, but it's all to foster recovery. And so it's a very different mentality and it's very different exercises and movements, but in terms of the overall intensity of, you know, demanding workout, you know, keeping that three days with space in between

tend to provide the best results for me and my clients. Anytime I'd add four or five, it was in excess. Well, I think there's several reasons for that. First of all, I wish I would have figured this out earlier. Oh, me too. I mean, I spent the first decade of lifting weights, following every exercise program that was in a muscle and fitness magazine, or like Justin's approach, which was more is better,

and just training, you know, training intensely in more days and double days and thinking that the more I train, the more muscle I should build, right? And the truth is, one of the best things I ever did was start scaling back and going the other direction. And a couple of things happens and why I think that one, when you run like a five or six or seven day weeks type of split and you split up your muscle groups in order to hit each muscle two to three times a week,

you have to be very consistent. You miss one of those days and it throws that off completely. So when you run a full body routine and it's only three days a week one, it's much easier to do three days a week as far as making it to the gym or you're or whatever, than it is five or six. So, and if you were to technically miss one day, you still got two full body workouts, which hits every muscle group at least twice in that week. So, and even if you only got one day that week, at least you would, you touched every single muscle group, which for me and, and when I looked back at like my, at like my training consistency, it was just inevitable. This happens. I go for two or three weeks and then I'd have a inconsistent week and then

sent one muscle group with suffer. And normally what suffers is a thing that I didn't like doing the most, right? That's what we always tend to do. And then when I get back in the rhythm again, I go back to the things I like doing and then that muscle group that I'm lagging in continues to suffer. So I think that's one of the reasons. And there's another reason. When you have to train a muscle group three times in a week because you're doing full body, it also forces you whether you like it or not eventually to kind of scale back on the intensity.

You learn your lesson pretty quickly of overdoing it when you know you got to come back two days later and touch that muscle group again So I think it naturally forces people to reduce the intensity of it Which is another thing that I think is over applied and definitely for myself And I think anybody in this room could attest to you know Chasing that intensity and trying to crush the the muscle group in the gym You just can't do that and get away with that when you're training full body three times a week. So I think there's a lot more than just, oh, what it does for volume and what it does for frequency. I think it naturally, you know, benefits a lot of people for those reasons too.

And so I think that's a lot of the success from there's one more thing I'd like to add. And this is just my own theory. But, you know, when you, when you work out, you get a localized muscle building effect that's, that's directly related to the muscle that you're working. So if I work out my right bicep, I'm going to get a loud muscle building signal that's applied to my right bicep. However, there's another interesting phenomena that happens. You also get this systemic milder muscle building effect that kind of happens throughout the whole body. They've proven this to study. They've actually done studies where they have people work out one arm and most of

the muscle gains and strength things happen in that arm, but the other arm mysteriously gains a little bit of muscle, a little bit of strength. Kind of weird. For people who are advanced who are listening right now, who've been working out for a long time, you know, you probably experienced this where you do barbell squats. If you've never done it before, you start introducing them and your legs start to get stronger and bigger. You start to notice gains in your upper body too in your arms. What is it, arms and shoulders? Yeah, what does this have to do with my arms and my shoulders?

I'm just put it back, it'll borrow my back and I did squats. Now, full body workout sends a very loud, first off, there's a lot of direct muscle building signals happening all the muscle groups that you're working. But because you're doing the whole body in a workout, you also enhance this very loud, total body muscle building signal. And I think that complements the muscle building signals

that are more direct. I think when you combine the two, you maximize the muscle building signal. Then you take the next day off, allow things to happen to build, a little bit of recovery, and then you go back and you do it again. And to this day, till this day, now there's lots of variations of this.

So if you follow any of our maps programs, all the muscle building ones, you'll find that almost all of them follow this kind of structure. There's three main workouts, two to three main workouts with other stuff in between, whether it be trigger sessions, focus sessions, or mobility work. But generally, the meat potatoes of program is typically two or three days of full body workouts. And the reason why we did that is it just works. It works for most people. So, and by the way, right now, this is how I'm training. Right now, this is how I almost always train.

If I have extra time, I do mobility work on the other days. I do hikes and walks and that kind of stuff. But my routine, the exercises may change, the reps may change, the tempo may change, maybe the goal may change. But my basic structure that I've followed now for well over half of my lifting career is a three-day-a-week full-body routine. By the way, when Doug hired me, when I first met Doug years ago in his 40s, he had experience working out. He had lots of experience lifting weights on his own. He followed lots of other types of programming.

When he hired me, here was a guy, not a beginner, got some experience, already relatively fit, hard gainer, fit the classic profile of a hard gainer. I trained him two days a week, full body, two days a week. And in his late 40s, made the best gains of his entire life. In fact, we have a before and after picture that if you if you scour his Instagram, mine pump, duh, or yeah, mine pump, duh, you'll be able to find it. Made the best gains of his Instagram, Mind Pump Doug, or yeah, Mind Pump Doug, you'll be able to find it. Made the best games of his life two days a week, not even three.

Next question is from Jules Tillman. What do you think of the Jefferson Deadlift? Are there benefits to straddling the bar for building deadlift strength? So this is, you guys know what this exercise is, right? Yeah, yeah. You go through between your legs. First I was like confused with the Jefferson curl

versus this, but then I, I was like, oh, that's really cool. Yeah, it's a very odd lift, being like, it doesn't look like anything else. It's off center, obviously. Here's some of the benefits I could see. Now, admittedly, I've never consistently trained this. I've never consistently.

I've never programmed it. Never programmed it consistently, but I've messed around with it. And based off of what I know of the human body, I would say it probably, it's definitely strengthening same similar muscles that you would get with maybe a trap or deadlift, but the difference is you're rotated. So it might help with strengthening a slightly rotated upper body while you lift, which might have some functional abilities in the real world when you're lifting a couch or moving things. One thing I would say is make sure you train both sides evenly.

I can see this really causing problems with somebody favoring one side, you know? Yeah, that's immediately was out. What I was thinking in terms of asymmetry and, you know, sort of addressing that, I've seen people, I've seen people create these types of exercises where they're loaded off-center and it does help from a functional standpoint to address this in everyday life because all these opportunities come up all the time because there's something heavy that you need to move and the weight shifts on you and you know, training your body to react and adapt to that

is I think is very beneficial. And again, I haven't done these enough to really like, you know, voice too much on it other than I speculate that it is like you are getting, you know, anterior posterior, a little bit like you would or a trap bar. So that would, you know, where my mind would go, is like similar benefits to that

with also the anti-rotational work with heavy weight as well. It looks to me like a sumo deadlift has married a barbell haxquat. That's kind of what I, when I look at it, that's what it, what it looked, the benefits that you get from sumo deadlifting and what you get from like a barbell ha squat. That's kind of what I, when I look at it, that's what it, what it looks, the benefits that you get from sumo deadlifting and what you get from like a barbell hack squat kind of molded into one, one exercise.

I don't see it having, the question is referring to a traditional or conventional deadlift. I don't see it having a lot of carryover to that because if you notice when you do the Jefferson deadlift, you're in a much more squatted position. It's much closer to the Hacksquad or the Sumo deadlift than it is a conventional deadlift. So I don't see it doing a lot of carryover to a conventional deadlift. But like you guys, this is, I've messed around with this, but this is not made

its way into like regular programming for me. If I were to do it with a client, this would be my client who just like, they love like unconventional lifts and functional training and challenging themselves. You're like bamboo bar stuff. Yeah, yeah, you know, they just, they, they, because I like Sal was saying there's a little bit of rotation in the upper body

while you're having to stabilize that weight and then it is challenging that with that, could have some good functional carry over. I'm not saying that that would be a bad exercise. I definitely wouldn't put it. If someone came to me and said, Adam, I want to get my conventional deadlift up. I saw these Jefferson deadlets.

I heard this could help that. I would not program that in that with that intention. It would be more of a fun, functional, unconventional exercise that I would put into a routine because I like to challenge my client that way. They like the challenge. So if you're asking the question like that and you like really challenging exercises, then

sure, I think there's nothing wrong with doing it. It was invented in the 1800s by a strong man. The thing back then, strong men liked to, they would do these exhibitions. And the goal of the exhibition was to impress the audience. And they find weird ways of lifting a lot of weight. There's like a hip bridge type exercise that some would do where they put a board across their lap and then a horse would walk across it

or all these weird kind of lifts. A Jefferson deadlift balances weight between the front and the back of the body. So technically, if you get really good at it, biomechanically speaking, you should be able to lift a lot of weight with this because it's a little bit more balanced. You're not having to use so much of your low back and your back to support you.

There's a lift in, I think it's in Scotland or Ireland called the Dini Stones or if you guys have seen this, these two incredibly heavy stones, and that's kind of how they lift them. One in front, one in back, and they got to stand up with them and handles, it almost like they're in the rocks

or the cement or whatever. Yeah, so lifting like this was around for a long time. It's just because it's offset and weird and it's lost popularity, but I'm gonna mess around with it a little bit. I'd love to report back on how I felt. Next question is from CarlosValasquez.us. When you were a kid, what did you want to be

when you grew up? Podcaster? Yeah, I knew I wanted to be on it. I didn't have podcaster. Nailed it. Yeah. Yeah, you know what? Living the dream.

When I was really young, who's, who do we, before we answer? Because I don't know who's, who do you think is gonna be the most different from what we ended up doing? Oh, the most different. I think you, probably you. Yeah, I think Justin would be like that. Me, me, yeah. I would guess, I would, I thought he was gonna be a rock star for sure. That was later on, dude.

Yeah, I was a little Yeah. I definitely admit that. I would bet that Justin wanted to be an athlete of some sort, football player or something like that. Yeah, somewhat, but honestly, I was more driven to be a veterinarian, which was really, nobody would ever guess that. And I was actually really interested in it to the point where my parents introduced me

to this veterinarian friend of theirs. And I did a little bit of like shadowing and watched, you know, the day-to-day stuff and then was immediately like, okay, this isn't for me. Like, is it just sick animals, just like, you know, that big, you got to put them to sleep. When that big white plastic glove came out,

you decided to know, I'm like, am I? That's the, yeah. Did I gotta stick my whole arm in that? Yeah. That didn't sound like a good idea. When that big white plastic glove came out, you just had to know. I'm like, am I? That's the thing. Yeah, I did. When I got to stick my whole arm in that, that didn't sound like a good idea. There was this turtle, this huge boil on its face, and it was like, pop, it was just like, oh, this is horrible.

They're extracting the anal glands of whatever it is. Exactly, yeah, it's not the glorified, but again, we need them, and I think it's a great profession, but I definitely moved on from that. That's so good by your parents to have you actually go and follow a veterinarian because that could have either, that could have also worked in the opposite way. You were like, yes, this is definitely,

oh yeah, if I was into it, that would have solidified it. That really did that for that reason? You were interested in it and they said, hey, let's go look at it. That's really cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's good parenting. I was, props.

Now here's really cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's good parenting. I was, now here's the thing. So for me, I'm thinking about before I was probably 13, 14, because by the time I was 14, 15, I knew I wanted to work in fitness or with exercise somehow. I thought maybe physical therapist, owning a gym or whatever. So I knew that at that age, like 100%. But before that, you know, at one point, I said,

scientists, because I love reading so much, and I like science, another point, at another time I said salesman, didn't know what I was selling, but I knew that I like to talk. And that was pretty accurate, I think. I think that's it. Accurate prediction.

Nothing too crazy. I remember my brother was little, we asked him what he wanted to be, and he said, a fire truck. So, I'm like, what wanted to be and he said, uh, fire truck. So I'm like, what'd it be a fire truck? I would say so from like eight to eight years old, I can think of that far back of like thinking about this before that I can't tell you.

So I don't know what like chew a little childhood. Childhood. But eight's pretty young, right? That's really young. I wanted things like, I wanted to be a lawyer. I wanted to be an architect. I wanted to be an architect. I wanted any job that made a lot of money. That was like, yeah.

Yeah, that was definitely like with the main driver. I mean, yes, they're like, what do you want to be when you grow up at them? You're like, well, what makes a lot of money? Yeah, what's the most money? 100% that's how it went down. 100% it went down like that. I mean, there's a video there.

Actually, it's a fun, I haven't thought about this memory in a long time. When my mom remarried when I was eight, there's a video that I'm on, and I'm like standing in front of the money tree at my parents' wedding. And there's like all this money, you've ever seen a money tree at a wedding before, you know, everyone clips and it was like, you know, full of all these dollar bills and shit, right? And I'm just like, standing, the cameraman comes running over, they're like, what are

you doing at them? And I'm just like an awe of the money trees. That's where it got. So at a very young age, I think you just, I put it together as a young kid, that we didn't have a lot of stuff. And so I wanted things, you know, and knew that I would have to work.

I wasn't gonna inherit anything. So, didn't you say at one point that when you wanted to be a lawyer and then you realized what I was doing? Yeah that when you wanted to be a lawyer and then you realized what I was doing? Yeah, so I wanted to be a lawyer all the way until my senior year and junior or senior year in high school and what made as the girl I dated my junior senior year, I came to her father's law office. So like you, I had an experience that made me go, oh, shit, no, I don't. So I wanted to be a lawyer up into that point. And I went to her dad's office one day and we walk in. And I, it didn't help either that I probably didn't like, he didn't like me very much, which obviously made me not like a big fan of

him as it is. And then I go, look at his office and this happens, right? So we walk in this office. And it was probably almost the size of our studio in here. And all the way around were books. It was a bookshelf, like crazy. And I remember, and I remember grabbing some out and looking at the names and they were just not, not a single one looked appealing to me, like to read. And I remember asking him, like, did you read all these books? And he was like, you're absolutely.

And I was like, every word, yeah, I said, fuck this. Because none of them looked interesting to me. I'm like, fuck, yeah, fuck this. Because none of them looked interesting to me. I'm like, oh my God, the amount of law that they have to read. And as a kid, I mean, even as a young high school kid, I knew it had to read. I knew I'd have to probably read a lot of law books,

but not to that level. And to realize how well I would have to know law and how much of that I would have to know law and how much of that I would have to read, I remember thinking to myself, oh my God, like no, I don't want that anymore. Yeah, I mean, even when I first became a trainer, I knew I wanted to work with exercise, but what I initially thought I was going to do was be a physical therapist because that was really the only profession, like professional profession that I knew that utilized exercise. Like I didn't realize you could really be a trainer

or a gym manager. And just for whatever reason, did pop it in my head as that being like a career. So I became a trainer in order to go to school at the same time. And I remember having this conversation with my manager at the time, this when I, you know, I done real well,

I became a fitness manager. And at that point, school was starting up. And I I, you know, I, I, I done real well, I became a fitness manager. And at that point, um, school was starting up. And I said, you know, I got to, I got to go back down to be a trainer because I need to start going to school. And they're like, well, what, you know, what do you want to do? I said, physical therapy. And they said, can you bring out your, your paycheck? And so I brought my paycheck out. And I said, you know, you already make more than a physical therapist.

And I said, huh? I had no idea. And they said, do you like doing this? Do you think you would like working in a clinical setting more than working in a gym and, you know, making less money? And I remember thinking, no, I love the gym. I would hate working in a hospital or clinical setting. That was it.

I was it. I knew I wanted to be in a gym. You and I have almost an identical story when it comes to like how we fell into the gym because we were both, I were 18, 19, I was 20, and we were both going to junior college. We both were going towards kinesiology. I too was thinking physical therapy, but my reason behind physical therapy was the money.

And once I got into personal training and I did well and a very similar situation, at that time, I was telling them, oh, I gotta go part time, because I gotta finish my degree. And like, each paycheck was getting bigger and bigger and bigger. And then it finally got to a point where I was making six figures as a personal trainer in my early 20s as a kid.

And at the time, there was a physical therapist average pay was less than that. Yeah, it was right there, you know, 80 to 120. So I was already in that range. And just like you, I was like, would I rather work in a clinical setting with a lot of old people that are, you know. Do you imagine, because I was like studying

to be a physical therapist? Imagine if we all were a physical therapist instead. Or how much boring this podcast would be. For that of our minds. Yeah, you know, I didn't, and here's the thing. 50 more reps, you know, we just be talking about a million reps of like doing things really slow. Well, you know, here's the thing too, I don't mind working

with old people rehab, I love that stuff, but here's a big difference. When you work in a gym, they're typically not sent to you by the doctor insurance. Well, not only that. They want to be there. Sometimes, a lot of times when you work, I've helped physical therapists.

A lot of times the patients come in and say, okay, I don't really want to do this. But people hire you out of their own pocket. Oftentimes they wanna be there. Well not only that, but you also get to change that. I talk about not liking advanced stage as much as you do or not liking kids and I had a wheelhouse. So I'm such a great guy, you know.

Right, you're right. I mean, it's me just being honest about how I felt, but the truth is I took all of them, right? I trained lots of clients in advanced stage. I trained lots of kids too. As I got longer to my career, I tried to hone in mostly what I liked, but that what I did also like about being a trainer was that I got to do all of that. And like if you're in physical therapy, you're basically speaking to a type of person,

rehabbing, rehab. It's all rehab. I like rehab work. I like teaching clients that. I mean, a big part of our job is that. Most physical therapists, once they get down with rehab, tell you to go see a personal trainer at a gym. So we just continued on and it wasn't long after

me getting enough of those clients that I do, and like, okay, well, what did you do with your physical therapist to get here? And then I started to learn what they did to get them to the point where I would take them from there, which, I mean, that's what led to me to rehab my knee surgery was I remember going to my physical therapist

and I was unimpressed with what they were doing. And so I could do this. So I enjoyed that, but you would have that would have kept you just doing that where you know, training, I got athletes, I got obese people, I got so much more variety. Yeah, hard gainer, I mean, you get everything. I had, when I had my studio for the last 12 years

of my career, I had physical therapist in my studio because I saw their value was tremendous. I mean, physical therapist in terms of diagnosing, movement issues and pain issues are some of the best that you'll see anywhere, good ones, right? Of course, there's always good and bad ones, but the good ones are just, and I had an exceptional one that worked in my facility.

She rented space for me and she was so good. I used to love working with her because I'd watch her and I'd learn from what she was doing. I'd hear what she'd say, I'd watch her diagnose and I learned a tremendous amount. And even before that, I always worked with physical therapists, but I loved the gym. I loved the gym environment, and I made the right decision, obviously, because I don't think I would have enjoyed a clinical setting as much.

You know, it's funny, when I said I wanted to do sales when I was younger. You know, as it worked through the fitness space, I became good at training, but also very good at sales and sales training. I did a lot of this for 24-Fitness and I did a lot of training later on. And there was a short period where I thought, well, you know, this is a skill I can apply it in other places. And I went and worked in the banking industry. And that was a great learning lesson for me because as much as you can sell

in another place, for me, it's got to be something I have a passion for because I hate it otherwise. And I did, I went to the banking industry and I did investments. And for me, I like investments, but it's not, I don't have a passion for. I don't wanna go out and help people with investments.

And it was so boring, it was the first time I live, I looked at the clock, I never forget, I was looking at the clock, waiting for it to become noon so I could go take my lunch. And I remember thinking, I'm not gonna live like this. This sucks. Cause when I worked with the gym, I never looked at the clock. The only time I looked at the clock was to go look

and I go, oh shit, it's late, I should probably go home. Never, and I did that in the bank and I was like, yeah, I belong in fitness. Well, I remember taking a, one of those, you know, I don't know, what do you call them? Like a personality type test. In, I think seventh grade was when I, the first time that I realized that maybe sales

was where I was supposed to be too, because it, like, everything pointed in that direction. So I took one of those tests, and it's like one of the, like, a hundred questions and they survey you and you answer and then it said, like, number one was, like, sales for me. So I, and then I have family, right?

So a lot of my family, that's what they did, what was sales. So I figured, okay, and then when I fell into training, see, I fell into training, not realizing until I was actually training clients, how much of it was sales. And that to me was the like, okay, this is it. This is what I'm supposed to do because I love the fitness aspect. I love working out. I love that. I love kinesiology. I was already heading that direction anyway. So that that fascinated me. Then I found out you can make a little bit of money in it, and then I found out a good portion of it was actually sales,

and I was like, oh shit, this is like... It's mostly sales. You have to sell someone every single day on why they gotta eat right. You gotta sell them almost every day on why they need to exercise and move right. You're selling somebody all the time on changing their life in fundamental ways, and so sales, I'm not just talking about selling training, that's obvious, I'm not just talking about selling training, that's obvious, talking about selling ideas.

That's a lot of what you do when you're a personal trainer. So it's a beautiful, beautiful marriage. Look, Mind Pump is recorded on video, as well as audio. So if you're listening to us and you can't see us, you're missing out, let me tell you. Go to YouTube, Mind Pump podcast. Also, if you wanna find us on social media individually, you can find us on Instagram.

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