Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1339: How to Get Better at Pull-Ups, Fun Ways to Build the Biceps, How to Build Bone Health & Strength & More

Episode Date: July 18, 2020

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about improving pull-ups, how to keep bicep training fun and interesting, best workout tips for using resistance bands, a...nd suggestions for building bone health & strength. Introducing Mind Pump’s newest sponsor, Public Goods. (5:22) The beauty of the gig economy. (13:08) The comradery in the gym setting. (20:50) Are black market gyms on the rise? (26:38) Magic Spoon, the best post-workout meal! (29:54) Mind Pump gets bamboozled on the coin machine percentage. (32:32) Fun Facts with Justin. (34:25) The latest cannabinoid research from Sal. (37:20) More interesting science with Sal. (39:45) The nation’s only company that sells your lost airplane luggage. (40:32) Sal’s gun scare at the airport. (43:25) The status symbol of the ‘selfie’. (46:12) #Quah question #1 – Why do I suck at pull-ups? (48:26) #Quah question #2 – I think training biceps is the most boring thing to do in the gym. Do you have any advice on how to keep bicep training fun and interesting? (53:43) #Quah question #3 – What are some of the best workout tips for using resistance bands? (59:17) #Quah question #4 – What are your suggestions for building bone health & strength? What do you suggest for people with osteopenia who are progressing towards osteoporosis? I know resistance training is great for this, but there is a certain way to approach it when you got one or both of these? (1:07:44) Related Links/Products Mentioned July Promotion: MAPS Strong ½ off!! **Promo code “STRONG50” at checkout** Visit Public Goods for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! The Future of Work: The Rise of the Gig Economy Uber and Postmates sue California to block gig worker law Perspective: California’s AB 5 Threatens Future of ‘Gig’ Economy Visit Magic Spoon for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Chocolate milk vs. protein shake: Which is better after a workout? Missing the excitement of a sports stadium crowd? In Japan, there’s an app for that. More Potent Than CBD, THC: Dr. Raphael Mechoulam Explains His Latest Discovery EPM Introduces Groundbreaking Cannabinoid Acid Technology and New Commercial Licensing Platform at CannMed 2019 Conference 'The Pill' Might Shrink Certain Brain Regions Among Women Taking It Meet the company that sells your lost airplane luggage Stop Working Out And Start Practicing - Mind Pump Media Can't do a Pull-Up? Do this!... - Mind Pump TV Mind Pump #1127: How To Grow Your Biceps 6 Best Band Exercises (ULTIMATE FULL BODY WORKOUT) | Mind Pump TV MAPS Fitness Anabolic - Mind Pump Media 5 Long-Term Benefits of Resistance Training – Mind Pump Blog How to Build a Strong Core with Kettlebell Farmers Walk – Mind Pump TV Mind Pump Podcast - YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Dr. Jolene Brighten (@drjolenebrighten) Instagram Robert Oberst (@robertoberst)  Instagram Dr. Andreo Spina (@drandreospina)  Instagram

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Starting point is 00:00:00 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this episode of Mind Pump, the world's top fitness, health, and entertainment podcast, we answer fitness and health questions that are asked by listeners and viewers just like you. So here's what we do in this episode. We open up with an introductory portion. This is where we talk about studies.
Starting point is 00:00:30 We mention our sponsors, we talk about current events. Generally, you just have a lot of fun. That took about 45 minutes in this episode. After that, we answered the fitness and nutrition and health questions. So what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna give you a breakdown of the whole episode. So if you wanna fast forward or wind
Starting point is 00:00:46 whatever find your favorite spot, you can do that. So we open up by talking about a new company we're working with public goods. Now public goods provides some of the best sustainable products you can buy anywhere, good for the environment, good for your skin, good for your clothes, you can buy soaps, you can buy detergents. Every household item you can take out. They have organic feminine products, they're very inexpensive.
Starting point is 00:01:10 They have this model where you can buy certain products and then you only have to buy refills so it's less packaging waste. This also saves you money. In fact, the animals talk about how you can buy razors on there for a dollar each made with bamboo handles. That's kind of cool. But we just started working with this company and we have a crazy hook up. In fact, we had to double check this to make sure that it was accurate.
Starting point is 00:01:34 So here's what you get when you sign up with the Mind Pump hook up, you're going to get $15 off your first order with no minimum purchase. In other words, you could sign up, get $15 worth of free stuff. Literally the first time, never have to do anything again. Here's what you do. Go to public goods.com forward slash mind pump and then use the code mind pump at checkout. Then we talked about the gig economy. We have some family members that are taking advantage of the current situation, making some money because a lot of people are door dashing right now.
Starting point is 00:02:08 Then we talked about the camaraderie in gyms, some of the best you'll find anywhere, no joke, especially the hardcore gyms. Then we talked about black market gyms, that let us to talk about why gyms are closing. Speak easy gyms. And how a lot of gyms might be opening up anyway. Sorry Kevin, new sum.
Starting point is 00:02:24 Then we talked about one of our favorite post workout meals. No, it's not a protein shake. It's cereal. It's the cereal. It's like the cereal had when you were a kid. Taste amazing. They actually have a flavor that's blueberry. Another one, birthday cake.
Starting point is 00:02:39 The company Magic Spoon. Now this cereal is made with way protein and milk protein has no sugar, still delicious. It's amazing. Here's your hookup. Go to magicspoon.com-mindpump. You'll get an automatic mind pump discount or you could just use the code, mind pump.
Starting point is 00:03:01 Then we talked about, let's see what, then we talked about Adam's coin percentage correction. He messed up again. No big deal. Justin brought up a Japanese company that is allowing fans to cheer for their favorite teams from home. That might be something that goes big. You suck. I talked about cannabinoid research. There's some breakthroughs in cannabinoid science. These are the molecules found in the marijuana plant. We talked about the hypothalamus and women who take birth control, apparently scientists are finding that chronic use of birth control or consistent use shrinks the hypothalamus.
Starting point is 00:03:36 Then we talked about a company who gets lost luggage and sells it, and apparently the only company in the world that does this. I talked about my gun scare at the airport when I was 12 years old, just and brought up sunflower selfies, and then we got into the fitness questions. Here's the first one. The first this person says, look, I'm not good at pull ups. What can I do?
Starting point is 00:03:59 The next question, pull ups. This person is bored with bicep training, weird, I know, bicep training is fun, whatever. But they want to know what they can do because it's so boring. So we give some other bicep exercises that might be more fun. The third question, this person don't want to know how to use resistance bands appropriately for best results. Resistance bands can seriously augment your workout with four good results. So you might want to listen to that part of the episode. And the final question, this person says,
Starting point is 00:04:28 what are the best things I can do to build bone strength and health? Also, this month, all month long, maps strong is 50% off. Now, map strong is a workout program that is inspired by strong men. It is designed to build muscle, speed up the metabolism, and help people also to burn body fat.
Starting point is 00:04:49 It's a very popular program among people who want to develop their posterior chain, their back, their butt, and their hamstrings. Also, if you like workouts that have both traditional and non-traditional exercises, you're gonna love this program. There's a lot of new stuff in it. Anyhow, here's how you get the half off,
Starting point is 00:05:06 go to mapsstrong.com, that's M-A-P-S-S-T-R-O-N-G. And use the code strong50, that's S-T-R-O-N-G-5-0, no space for the discount. Super excited, right? Always get excited when we find a new company. I can tell you're excited. Just saying that sounds like it really. You just said that sounds super fun.
Starting point is 00:05:32 I am super duper so tend it out right now. No, no, no, no. Whoa, there's this. Sorry. I feel like we've had a need for a couple years now, at least a year and a half, two years now, for a brand that supplies things like this. And so this was something that I believe Rachel came across them first, maybe about six months
Starting point is 00:05:55 ago, reached out. We were back and forth with a company and a bunch of phone calls and then talking about things and just like we normally do, courting somebody. And finally sealed everything last month and officially launching today, our partnership with public goods. Yeah, we're old school, we don't date we court. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:15 They're companies' crushing and they're gonna keep crushing. You know what I like about what they do? So they really, really do emphasize eco-friendly, you know, not harsh chemicals type products. And one of the things I like to do is they'll, you'll buy a product, that'll be the container for the product, then you just buy refill bags. Right. So it's less waste for the environment. And the prices, I think because of that are really low because the expensive packaging is what you get
Starting point is 00:06:48 when you get the initial product or whatever. Everything else is refill. I really like that model. It's super simplistic. And even when the branding can kind of see that, I just love, and they have so many different options for things in the kitchen and cleaning products and things I've got.
Starting point is 00:07:03 Like just going and overhauling my entire kitchen with spices and all that, that's definitely going to hit that up. Yeah, didn't you say that the razors were really good? The razor blades are a dollar, dude. And so dollar shape club, too, by the way, is in a dollar. So not a lot of people know that or not, right? It's like 15 bucks. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:21 What's still, that's a big difference. Yeah, I know. Yeah. I was doing that before. Wait, wait a minute, hold on a second. You didn't know that? No, wait, it says dollar shave club, it's $15? Once you start getting like, yeah, the actual razor you want.
Starting point is 00:07:36 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It starts going up in price. And then I think that actually, like I think the base model is like $7 for like the little handle and then the blade actually plays with that. Oh, yeah. So these ones were, public goods were like bamboo handle
Starting point is 00:07:50 and the whole deal. Yeah, pretty cool. Yeah, no. So I'm excited just ordered a dad's kit, which comes with all the bathroom accessories and in there is the razor. So I'm really excited to try that, because that alone for me.
Starting point is 00:08:04 I mean, dude, you know how much replacement blades are? I don't know if you guys use it. You guys use a Razer anymore. You use a electric? Yeah, I just, if I'll trim the beard every once a while, but like, Norelka, like old school. No, no, no, no, no, just, I just keep it like a beard. Oh, like with the, yeah, because yeah, I shaved a couple times with a Razer and Jessica was like, don't, don't do that anymore. You, you razor, don't you? Yeah, I razor too. So it's my neck, yeah, I have to do that.
Starting point is 00:08:29 You don't line up like that, no? No, I mean, I'll do it down here, but like, you know, Justin's beard connects to his chest hair. So yes, he's gotta find, he's gotta go down the path of the lawn. He's gotta go the lawn, he's gonna make it. Yes, it's separate, it's over here. He's gonna vote the lawn. He has to make it. He has to separate. He's over here.
Starting point is 00:08:45 It's the trail to... Are you the, are you the heriest of all of us? I know. Dude, I got no hair. You're the heriest of all of us though. No way. That's, that's not factual. You don't think so?
Starting point is 00:08:56 Not at all. I thought you were. My arm hair is very misleading, dude. I'm not the heriest. I literally... Doug's like smoother than the baby's ass. Yeah. He's like a seal. He's like a hairless chimp. Doug's like smoother than the baby's ass. Yeah, Doug's like a, he's like a seal. He's like a hairless chimp.
Starting point is 00:09:07 He's like, he's like a dolphin. He's like a dolphin. He's just smooth. Yeah. Smooth. Hey, how about, dude, the public goods, almonds, bro. So those are good. You know, hey, I loved your skinny dips.
Starting point is 00:09:22 Yeah. You were fun. Yeah, you were fun. You were fun. You were new girl. You were fun. Yeah, you were fun. You were fun. You were new, girl. You were too. Yeah. She's tasty. These are on another level.
Starting point is 00:09:30 They're way hotter. Yeah, this is on another level right here. Dude, you know what, here's another thing, too, to pay attention to. I talked about this once on the podcast. This is something I was not aware of, feminine products, right? Like tampons and pads and that kind of stuff.
Starting point is 00:09:43 They are not regulated the same way as like food products, obviously, because you don't eat them. However, you do put them inside your body. Right. And they do contain the cotton and the stuff that makes up these products are often soaked in chemicals. Like, Jillian Brighton talks about this all the time. She does. And when you put something inside your body,
Starting point is 00:10:05 you still do absorb some of the chemicals and stuff in there. And the public goods, they have the organic products, organic, feminine, hygiene products. I know, that's awesome. You know, one of the things I had to get clear, when we were going back and we were first negotiating the deal, the offer that they make for our listeners,
Starting point is 00:10:22 I had to like go back like three different times and make this clear. So wait a second, you mean to tell me that basically they can order something for free? Like, there's no bells, whistles that doesn't tie them. Wait, wait, what do you mean? So they have, what is it up to? $15, Doug, is what they can spend?
Starting point is 00:10:36 Yes. So they get a $15 voucher basically towards any of the products. And you could technically buy something for $15. Oh. Wow. So, I mean, you can go on there. So you could sign up, try, get $15 with the free stuff. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:53 And try the product or try something that you want. It's like an initial offering to get in. Yeah. Are you required to buy anything else after? No. That's what it's like. It's kind of a no brainer. I'll talk to the marketing department. You guys show this, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:11:06 I mean, there comes, you gotta be pretty confident in what you're delivering. If you know, cause then you know the leads are worth it, right? That just that, if they can get everybody in, they know a large enough percentage of these people will love the product. I think, continue, Bart. I think because of the current state
Starting point is 00:11:21 of the way things are going anyway, I think companies like this are positioned so well because going to the store right now is a pain in the ass. Places are still, are we open? Are we shut down? What's going on? Whatever, it's obviously delivered to your door. It's clean.
Starting point is 00:11:36 It's all the common household items you need. So, you know, it'd be much more convenient to do this one. Yeah, you know what we did. We did one of those, what does it call? That shopping cart thing that you go online or your grocery cart? Okay We've done it now several times. We have yet to get exactly what we ordered. Oh really never comes all random Never will be like organic bear. Yeah, because if they'll go cucumber. Huh? Oh really? So if it's way different if it's out then they will have it. Yeah, dude. No, no, it's like, I want this, not whatever you think I want.
Starting point is 00:12:08 That's supposed to work that way. Oh, this is a, I don't have this. I'll give you one of these. Oh, he wants a eggplant. It's still the vegetable. Yeah, no, no, no. All right. Oh, there's no eggs.
Starting point is 00:12:16 Here's a chicken that makes it. Well, you know what happened to Katrina yesterday that Mr. Riehu used in the cart on the daily, literally. So yesterday, this is day before yesterday, she ordered and she put banana on the list and they literally brought one banana. Just one. Yeah, because you like, it's like,
Starting point is 00:12:37 fuck, you gotta see the bananas. Yeah, you should've said. Not a bunch of bananas. Yeah, because you send over a list like that, right? And when you send the list over, just real quick, she's writing it all out like that, right? And when you send the list over, just real quick, she's writing it all out in banana, right? And because she didn't put bananas, right?
Starting point is 00:12:50 Or a bundle of bananas. Like, maybe we're all specific. Yeah, she gets, we get our order. And there's like one banana. One eggs, that's two. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. You just said eggs.
Starting point is 00:13:00 How much is one banana? I don't know what we paid for. I don't remember. It's like $0.50. So my brother, just, so my little brother who just moved back from living out in Hawaii. Oh yeah, how was that formed by the way? Not so great, actually.
Starting point is 00:13:16 Yeah, in his face. So he was living on the beach or something? He was living out of a, like one of them Volkswagen-type vans for a minute there, dude. Yeah, we couldn't be, my brother and I couldn't be further from different like when it comes to the surface. Yeah, because you would live in a Chevy, not a Volkswagen.
Starting point is 00:13:31 Stupid. I just, he did that, like he lived in Colorado, like 10 life for a while, he did, he lived up in Truckee Tahoe area for a while. Like so he's, he's's like, what are they? A nomad, right? Like he's just wherever type of deal. Where, and he's young.
Starting point is 00:13:49 So, and he's not married, doesn't have kids. And so I always, I encourage it. I always tell him, I say, man, I'm with the other route. So I'm not saying my way was better. I tied myself to a mortgage by the time I was 21. You know what I'm saying? I ain't going nowhere after that shit. So, you know, I used to be a little envious
Starting point is 00:14:02 of my two little brothers who have this kind of a, you know, personality where they are just, you know, travelers and they don't need much. So, I used to be a little envious of my two little brothers who have this kind of a personality where they are just travelers and they don't need much. And so I've been, I've always encouraged that for him, hey, do it now while you're young when you can. But he's now kind of reaching that age, right? He's getting closer to 30. And he's like, I really need to get my shit together
Starting point is 00:14:21 and like find something to do. And he's been asking me about coming out to the Bay Area. And I said, yeah, dude, I mean, obviously, there's a lot of opportunity. Now, it's really expensive to get started here. And I suggested I said, you know what's cool about me and not here, and you can come visit me and do this and set your own schedule is, you know, sign up
Starting point is 00:14:38 for Instacart, DoorDash, Uber, all those things, and, you know, hustle. And then if you can find, like I said, I think in a perfect world, I just saw Home Depot was offering jobs. I was like, if you get like a little steady 25 to 30 hours at Home Depot, where you have like a set schedule
Starting point is 00:14:55 like in the morning or something, and then when you want to get crazy in hustle, you hustle, instant card, and door dash. So he's been doing this for like the last two weeks. And man, you can make some fucking money doing DoorDash, dude. I mean, especially right now. Bro, he's been screenshoting me, like what he's making.
Starting point is 00:15:14 And he's like, bro, I've made more in the last five days than I would a two week paycheck working at the hardware store that I was working before. Oh wow. So, and it's all, you know, at his convenience, like he wants to work late night, he works late night, he wants to work through the day, he works through the day, he would sleep in and then start late, you can do it, do whatever, such a, yeah. It's such a cool time.
Starting point is 00:15:35 It is, but you know, that type of stuff. Well, the gig economy itself is a really cool option. Yeah. I wish that existed when I was a kid. Yeah, but you know, like 16? You know, those jobs are being threatened right now though, right? Because they passed laws that said that they can't be contractors or whatever.
Starting point is 00:15:47 Yeah, thanks for looking out for us, government. Yeah. Appreciate all of your efforts. So that's just, that's only Uber though, right? It's not all of them. It's not door to action. Uh, I think they're all going to be threatened by it and have to figure out ways to maintain, you know, continue doing what they're doing.
Starting point is 00:16:02 Mm. Really? Yeah, because I know that you, if you, I don't remember exactly what it was. What the hubduck, continue doing what they're doing. Really? Yeah, yeah, because I know that you, if you, I don't remember what exactly what it was. Look at how dumb I wanna hear about that. That's a bunch of bullshit. I heard that, I remember they were trying to... It's stupid because there's so many people
Starting point is 00:16:12 who benefit from the flexibility and not. It would be, it would be, right. It's funny, it's always the wrong people who have no fucking clue that are like voting for that or rooting for that. They think that it's gonna, but it's like the same people that I feel like that, like root for minimum wage to go up,
Starting point is 00:16:24 but don't actually understand economics and like what that actually really does like yeah, we should move Minimum wage up to $25 or $40. Okay. What about everybody else who can't make that kind of money or people that employ people that can't pay So in that money what that actually does usually what it is is they just you don't have the skills or the experience to that We're someone's gonna want to pay you that much. So you just become unemployable at that point. Yeah, no, the economy's interesting. That's actually one of the reasons why the biggest job growth has come from companies like that. And I know a lot of people who do those types of jobs on the side and they love the flexibility
Starting point is 00:17:00 of being able to do whatever they do. Well, think about this. I told you how he's making good money, right? He made a couple thousand dollars this week. And I'm like, yeah, that's great. I know. I'm like, that's too big money, dude. I mean, that was seven days of working straight, right? So that was a lot of, he was grinding.
Starting point is 00:17:14 Yeah, but that's his choice. Right. How many jobs can you go to and say, hey, I want to work every day so I can make this and they'll say, sorry, we can't do that. And I mean, if you want us to work, here's me. So I was, and I think you guys were both this way. I know you, Sal, said this, we shared this that we were,
Starting point is 00:17:30 when I got in a 24, one of the things, I guess this dates us too, right? This is like before a lot of time and labor laws. They told me like, they said, you could work as much as you want. Because you're salary. You know, because you were still hourly, but they didn't have time and labor laws back then.
Starting point is 00:17:44 This was about to tell before back we go. And they told me as a trainer that, you know, because you were still hourly, but they didn't have time and labor laws back then. This was about to tell before back we go. And they told me as a trainer that, you know, hey, if you want to work the floor and hustle and find new clients and do all that, now it was a minimum wage I was getting paid for that. And then I got paid a higher rate. So funny. But for me, I mean, minimum wage for me in the Bay Area was more than what I was making as a kid in high school.
Starting point is 00:18:02 So I was like, wait, as much as I want to work. Not only that, but you're building your business, you're trying to get me. Yeah, so to me, it was like, okay, you're gonna pay me to try and go get... Build my own business. Yeah, build my company, or build, you know, I'm working for them, but it's like building your own business.
Starting point is 00:18:16 I used to do that in the restaurant industry, I just take people's shifts, because everybody was always trying to get out of their shift and go do something, or go to the ball game, or whatever, and like, give me your shift. And so I would end up working like two, three, four shifts Everybody was always trying to get out of their shift and go do something or go to the ball game or whatever, and like, give me your shift. And so I would end up working like two, three, four shifts some days just because I'm like, dude, my first,
Starting point is 00:18:32 my very first deal, I made $800 off of a single pop by sold personal training. It was the very first person I ever saw and it was a girl at 5 a.m. away, Trist. I took and it was because of a trainer. I was brand new. I was like, I'll take everything. I'll work whenever. That was me. And so, you know, all the veteran trainers thought they were being all clever and shit and being like, oh, hey, the new dumb guy will
Starting point is 00:18:53 fucking work whenever. Let's give them all the garbage fucking leads, right? So he gives me, a waitress. I think she was 19 years old, but hey, she was hustling and she wanted to fucking lose 15 pounds. I took her through a fitness appointment, sold her a ton of training, and she was able to put at least half of it down and make payments on it, which we could do that back then. It was an $800 rip for me, and I had to get up at
Starting point is 00:19:14 five o'clock in the morning to see her, and he gave it to me, and he comes into work at like nine o'clock, and he sees in the SMR, right? So you've already got this. That I already get this, so do you, so pissed. Well, I mean, you want to know my schedule look like when I first became a trainer? This is no joke.
Starting point is 00:19:28 I would get in at 8 a.m. I would work with clients. Most of them back to back, oftentimes you'd have a block of time in between. This is when I had to work out. But I was there from 8 a.m. to about 8 p.m. I would go home. This is no joke.
Starting point is 00:19:41 I would go home, eat dinner, go to bed, wake up, come back, train the client at 3 a.m., remember this was 24 hour fitness, it was open 24 hours. Then I trained the client at 3 a.m., go back home, go back to bed sometimes, and then come back to work. And the reason why is because this person said, I wanna buy training, but no trainers wanna train me at three o'clock in the morning.
Starting point is 00:20:02 Well, I'm a new trainer, so I'm like, let's do this. Yeah, pay me. I'll train you at any time you wannaclock in the morning. Well, I'm a new trainer, so I'm like, let's do this. Yeah, pay me. I'll train you at any time you want to come in. Yeah. Now, here's the thing, I should take a few of those. They ended up being very consistent clients. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:13 After a while. Then you've got to figure it out. You start trying to talk them out of it. Yeah. Hey, why don't we do that? Well, that you know, cortisol levels are highest to three. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:20 You might want to train when you're to stop. That's why I'm my schedule in a being that way is what you start to find out as a trainer is the people that get up that early and come to personal training, man. Those are the most serious people. It's the client. You're actually right.
Starting point is 00:20:33 Oh, there, I mean, if you have the disciplines to, yeah, get up at five o'clock in the morning to get your workout in and you're gonna pay someone like those people ain't missing. They never, I rarely ever had somebody flake on me early, early morning. It was always posted. Now there's an interesting culture in the gym.
Starting point is 00:20:50 You know, when you run gyms, you can see trends once you've been there for long enough or whatever. The most consistent members, the ones you can count on, they're gonna show up, the same crowd all the time, early morning. Early, early morning, five, six a.m, it's the same people in the gym working out. They're the most consistent. They're never going to stop.
Starting point is 00:21:10 Those after work hours, those after work prime time hours, that's where you get the heat. You get a little flaky. Yeah, where they, you know, here's another part of the culture. I was walking with Jessica this morning. We did a morning walk and as we're walking, this guy comes out. Big dude and he's washing his truck. And he looks at me and I say hi to him and then whatever and he goes, oh man, he goes,
Starting point is 00:21:31 you got a gym in your garage, don't you? Like yeah, yeah, yeah, dude. And he goes, man, it sucks. He goes, they open the gyms for one day. Then they close them, he goes, I went to go lift weights. Now they're close, he goes, this totally sucks. I'm gonna try and put a gym in my garage. So we start talking big dude, right?
Starting point is 00:21:45 Start talking back and forth and then we leave. Real nice guy. And I told Jessica, I said, you know that it's funny. There's this camaraderie between people who work out in the gym that supersedes all other differences. I've noticed this in every gym I've ever worked out and I worked in, especially the hardcore gyms, the more hardcore the gym, the more everybody treats each other with respect
Starting point is 00:22:07 and kindness and it doesn't matter. Well, there's a reason for that. Yeah, there's a reason for that. There's one thing for sure, okay? No matter what color, what language you speak, what age you are, that you have in common, that we all have in common, you're somewhat growth minded.
Starting point is 00:22:22 Yeah. You care about bettering yourself. And so all of the things could have be different, but there's at least, that's a guarantee, because if you're making the effort to go to a gym and lift things up and run on treadmills and do things like that, there's an admirable. Yeah, you're doing it with the intentions
Starting point is 00:22:42 of bettering who you are. That's right, so here's a thing. I've had people ask me this question. Are people who are growth-minded drawn to working out, or does exercise help grow in shape a growth-minded person? Chickener. I think it's, well, I think there's a little bit of both, but I think a large part of it, and I've only because I've experienced this training,
Starting point is 00:23:04 lots of people, when you do it for a long time and you do it for the right reasons, it does build the skill of discipline and it does change your perception of how much power and control you have over yourself and your attitude and stuff like that. So you're right, it's a lot of growth-minded people, and it's also a lot of people willing to work to improve themselves. One of the, I remember as a kid, I was, see, by the first time I really worked out in a gym, I was 15 or 16, I wanna say 16.
Starting point is 00:23:34 And then when I turned 17, you know, I had my driver's license, and I actually, there was a world gym that was far away. It was like 40 minutes away, but that's world gym. And the only gym I was going to at the time was 24-hour fitness. I'm like, I wanna go to a hardcore gym to see what it's all about. So I drove all the way to this world gym that was like, it was like power lifters.
Starting point is 00:23:54 The Dave Draper. Body. No, I think that's one of the Santa's. I wanna say, yeah, he own. Yeah, so this was like bodybuilders and power lifters. And it was like a dungeon of weights. And I remember going in there, and I'm very comfortable in gyms, even at that age,
Starting point is 00:24:08 but I was still a little intimidated because we're always monsters working out or ever. And I remember how cool they worked to me. You know, if I was looking at a machine, hey, do you want me to try to use that, or do you need a spot, or, hey, good job, people giving me fist bumps in the gym. I saw a lady working out in there,
Starting point is 00:24:24 they were treating her the same way. That was my first experience with the camaraderie that you experienced in gyms. And I would communicate this to my clients, especially female clients who are intimidated by the gym. And I remember telling them the big scary people in the gym, the guys and girls who look super hardcore, they're the ones most willing to help you
Starting point is 00:24:44 and answer questions. They get steady bears. Exactly. Yes. hardcore, they're the ones most willing to help you and answer questions. It's just big, exactly. Yes, I know there's screaming over there and they're dropping the 120 pound dumbbells and whatever, but trust me, if you have a question and you ask them, they'll spend the time. I think of it as, there's always exceptions that rule, right?
Starting point is 00:24:57 But I think of that like, it reminds me of like some of the baddest dudes that you meet and girls too, that are fighters. If you're really, really bad at, that's so true. You're normally the most docile, nice going person. You know why? Because you're confident.
Starting point is 00:25:11 Yeah, they don't need to prove anything. Yeah. And when you're the buffest dude in the gym, you ain't got shit to prove. It's pretty obvious. But it's working. You know what the, with fighters, it's not just the confidence. It's also that they know the damage that can happen
Starting point is 00:25:24 to fight. They're just back there. There's other factors. I've hung out with some fighters and I remember going out and them getting insulted or pushed or whatever. And they're just like, I think cool.
Starting point is 00:25:34 And I'm like, man, he could put what the floor to. It's humility, right? They have that in common. That's what it is. They're both humble for whatever reasons. It's just, if you're someone in the gym and you've reached this, the biggest buffest person in there, that didn't happen overnight.
Starting point is 00:25:50 And you can relate and remember what it was probably like for starting and frustrated and working hard and knowing you have a long road ahead of you. And so, I think you have compassion for that. What got me in love with, well, I was already in love with working out, but what got me in love with the main lifts, or at least the first time I was really introduced to them as being the most effective
Starting point is 00:26:09 and experiencing them, was a group of power lifters, older gentleman, who saw me doing leg press and, you know, leg extensions and saw how hard I was working and they helped me out. And I could see that they looked at this, and I would feel the same way now. If I'm working out, and I see some 16 year old kid over there
Starting point is 00:26:27 just grinding and trying hard, I'm gonna look at the kid the same way they looked at me and be like, man, good for you. Here, let me point you in the right direction. You're wasting your time on this extension machine. So why don't you try barbell squatting, what's your problem? I don't think any of us went back to a gym. I was a small window there that they were opened up.
Starting point is 00:26:43 Do you guys know anybody that did? No. I stopped by the Santa Cruz power and kind of peeped in because my friend was trying to work out there. And then that was it though. I mean, they had a few people in there at the time, but it was definitely a different. You gotta find out for me because I heard their staying open. Because today everyone's was my host.
Starting point is 00:27:01 I mean, I'm not gonna put them on blasts. Yeah, I don't fall them out like this. Yeah, but like I just put them on front. You know, that's a thing. Sorry, like I, yeah. So I, again, we'll see what happens with this whole thing. Like how many people are still gonna try and make it work. Here's what I think is about to happen
Starting point is 00:27:15 because it's been too long now. I think what's about to happen, not that I'm encouraging this, but you're gonna start to see mass, civil disobedience with people who are gonna say, I'm sorry, I gotta keep my business open. And I gotta at least try to make a living because it's been too long. And when enough people start,
Starting point is 00:27:35 you know what it reminds me of? This is a grand experiment. It just reminds me of prohibition. Prohibition, one of the reasons why that got repealed was because you remember that so well. No, it reminds me of prohibition. Prohibition, one of the reasons why that got repealed was because you remember that so well. No, it reminds me of prohibition times. I remember. Well, that's, well, see, that's Doug one
Starting point is 00:27:51 is in his 20s back then. Was that like, no, it reminds me, when I read about prohibition, because when that happened, so many people did not follow that law, you had police officers going into, you know, these speakeasies and you had so many, that they basically are like,
Starting point is 00:28:08 we've made a bunch of normal people lawbreakers and with these forced shutdowns with a lot of these businesses again in California, I can only imagine how many of them are speak easy to themselves. How cool is that? What if you got that where it's like, you gotta go down to basement and you don't even know it's there? Yeah, I'm not saying that this is a good idea.
Starting point is 00:28:27 Not promoting it. Well, let's just say you had an accurate handshake. It's a, it's a aim, whatever. Yeah, that would knock. It's a fact, it's happening. I mean, we were off air, we were speculating, right, about this, like, and where my brain goes, is I'm trying to think of like,
Starting point is 00:28:40 okay, where's the opportunity, right? There's gonna be an opportunity that's gonna present itself for business because this is happening. It's already happening, what you're saying. It's not like it's going to happen. It's already been having, it's just going to ramp up. There's already people doing haircuts undercover. There's already trainers still going to people's houses
Starting point is 00:29:00 and training. There's still, this is happening already. And if you keep things closed up for much longer, it's going to become survival mode. I mean, even the most responsible person that has got three, six months of income put aside, that's running low now. And you put those people in that corner long enough, and there's still a demand for it from the market, people are going to figure out what I'm concerned about is okay, now you do that. If it's black market, just like prohibition times, it's cash, and you're not claiming it for taxes. So what does that do for the economy when we start, when all these people do start working, but stop paying
Starting point is 00:29:40 taxes? No, big tax short, shortfall. Well, here's what they do. The economy's not that great. Well, they'll still tax you. Those do on a meeting. They're great to get with. They'll still tax you. They'll do it differently. They'll just print more money. So then you are getting tax without getting taxed. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:29:51 You're still getting taxed that way. So I don't know. Speaking of working out, I got a DM from someone. I didn't even think about this. So we work with a company, Magic Spoon, high protein cereal, no sugar. And this guy sends me this picture and he's like, best post workout meal of all time. You know, that's funny.
Starting point is 00:30:10 I was thinking about that because the whole slam in a shake after the workout is a post workout meal. And like, what's the difference in the macros? I was thinking about that too, is like adding that instead. It's way protein and milk protein isolate. So it's high quality. There's very little sugar.
Starting point is 00:30:24 You put milk in there. You get a little bit of the sugar from the milk. Milk itself is actually a very good work out. Well, I was going to say, so, remember when there was, wasn't there a study that went around? That was the chocolate milk. Yes, I did a post a long time ago. I want to say like four years ago, it's a deep end of my Instagram where I compared post workout shakes to like a glass of chocolate milk.
Starting point is 00:30:43 And they've done studies on this to show in terms of replenishing glycogen and muscle protein synthesis. And milk was excellent. Right. So imagine milk in magic spoon is like the like ideal post workout. Plus it's convenient, right? Because it's in a box. So you just get your bowl and it's way tastier. Yeah. Smash them fruity, some fruity cereal. It's got protein in it.
Starting point is 00:31:03 Now you still haven't had the peanut butter yet. You have you yet? Even though I haven't yet. So either one of you guys have had it. So you know what Magic Spoon is doing right now too. I don't know what you're doing right now too. I think Jackie messaged me. So they said, yeah, the Magic Spoon listening to their fans,
Starting point is 00:31:16 so you can now create your variety box. Oh yeah. So before, yeah, before, and that was kind of a knock that I had. It wasn't something I shared on the podcast, but it was something that I was like, damn, and sometimes I wish I could just I want this flavor and this flavor and that's all I want and like you when I ordered peanut butter I got honey nut also so I got two peanut butter two honey nut and I'm like the honey nut ones are
Starting point is 00:31:38 They're good. They they remind me of like Do you remember what was it called? Corn pops, that flavor. I love pops. Yeah, if you like that flavor, then you like it. Really? Yeah, yeah. That was my favorite. I didn't like that.
Starting point is 00:31:51 I said, you don't like pops? No, I wasn't saying that. Oh, I love pops. So you'll like that cereal, because it reminds me of that flavor. It has that flavor to it, even though it's honey nut. It tastes like, it reminds me of like corn pops. Oh, dude, that was all about pops and smacks. Honey smacks are very similar
Starting point is 00:32:05 with the frog on it. Yeah, I remember that. You know why else I like smacks? This is why. I remember them the oldest to four. You know how great it is early in the morning to wake up and ask your younger siblings if they'd like some smacks. They say yes. Even back then you're in your dad jokes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, what's this? You know, you know, my brothers all tired. Yeah. He was like, hey, what's this? You know, my brother's all tired. He's all tired in the morning with hairs all the show. Yo, look, some smirk. We're careful of Thailand.
Starting point is 00:32:30 Oh, speaking of DMs, I have to clear up. I love our listeners. I do, especially when you check me. I know you're about to say something about that. Yeah, they do. Oh, like I always do. Are you kidding me? Like, you know, I just,
Starting point is 00:32:41 shit flies out my mouth and then somebody has to like, you know, correct me. So, I just dodged it. So, Justin and I were talking about, we were, remember when we were talking about the coin shortage and I was talking about all, I have a fine gallon and you said, do you guys use the thing and I'm like,
Starting point is 00:32:55 oh no, they take too much money. Oh, the fee that they charged to put in those machines. I've used that at the grocery store. Yeah, I offended somebody who has, who has one of those machines. You said it was 30% worth of the sentence. It's like 7%. Okay. Yeah, so it's way that's a big difference What kind of clay machine
Starting point is 00:33:13 I was get jacked you I don't remember what it was I'm got close by somebody like no no no listen that machine charges 30% I'll charge 25 That's what happened, okay, yeah great deal. I got suckered. Thank you what happened. I was like, okay, great deal. I got suckered, bad. Thank you so much. I got suckered. Dude, so Justin, the BMX bike, right, gave it to my boy.
Starting point is 00:33:31 Oh, you already gave it to him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, what do you think? Like it, loved it, right? Sweet, so I bring it home and he's all excited, right? He already bailed, this was pretty funny. Oh, nice. Yeah, it's already fell off of it and I'm,
Starting point is 00:33:43 he was okay, so I'm, but I'm laughing. I'm like, that's the first of many, so just get you think. Oh, yeah, that fell off of it and I'm like he was okay, so I'm but I'm laughing I'm like that's the first of many so just get you. Oh, yeah, that's part of it But I got on that thing and guess who can still bunny hop. Oh Now it's like three inches skills. I mean it's like that much what I would pay to have a video Why didn't you have a video of it? You do I do okay? That would be excellent if you shared that it was the tiniest of bunny hop But I got the back tire off and I remembered how to do it if you shared that. It was the tiniest of bunny hop, but I got the back tire off, and I remember it had to do it. If you can't get up onto the curve, it doesn't count. Yeah, I think, I think if I pracked this,
Starting point is 00:34:11 I'm gonna bring the ramp in. I wanna see your skills. No, no, no, no, I'm not gonna jump a ramp. What, it's like that crazy. Oh man, I got old man bones, I'm gonna say. That's the one that's the best. The crack. You know, another thing that someone DM me about, of that we talked about I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say,
Starting point is 00:34:25 I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say,
Starting point is 00:34:33 I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say,
Starting point is 00:34:41 I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, Basically, the Japanese company, what is it? Yamaha? Or a... What? Yamaha. Yeah, no, it's a Japanese company that basically created an app so the fans could introduce noises and stuff like through speakers in empty stadiums.
Starting point is 00:34:57 Well, wasn't it you who brought up the company that was trying to start where you could do a virtual version of yes, pay ticket cutouts? Yeah, is it the same company or is it a different company? That's a different company. It's a different idea. Oh, so when you're watching the game, then you hear all these speakers of fans that are digitally screaming.
Starting point is 00:35:12 So I'm Yamaha. I'm not, I'm not smoking. Wow. Yeah. You're a good job. Remote. Sweet. Cheer app lets fans root for their teams.
Starting point is 00:35:20 Okay, so is it cost money? Is it like a dollar and you get to be, be in there or something? How does that work? Well, yeah, they're testing it right now, but I'm sure they're gonna have an app for it. So you pay for each time that you're gonna put your two noise out. Please tell me this is not, okay, you got,
Starting point is 00:35:34 this is like, remember we talked like two years ago, maybe longer about how I really think that, like we're moving in the direction of the movie, Syracits, do you remember that? Oh, we're like, you just the virtual world of everything and like people just love being plugged in more because it's virtual worlds better, you know, I tell me this is not a step in that direction where like, we
Starting point is 00:35:56 can start making cutouts of ourself virtual versions of ourselves at the events you can do your impose your voice at it and like, you don't even go. You know what I'm saying, but you're there virtually. And then you have, remember the IG thing I told you about with the clothes that you can pretend your impose your voice at it and like, you don't even go. You know what I'm saying, but you're there virtually. And then you have, remember the IG thing I told you about with the clothes that you can pretend that you have on? Like, we are getting closer and closer every day. Well, thing that makes sense right now,
Starting point is 00:36:13 but like, I think it's just a massive pivot just to try and gather any money they can. Like, you say that until people think it's cool. Well, think about it this way. Like, you've seen the comments of anonymous people on YouTube, like, just disgusting terrible, terrible people. I wonder if this is gonna allow people things.
Starting point is 00:36:29 Well, I wonder if people are gonna, that because they're doing it through an app and it's anonymous, what kind of cheers are they gonna start saying exactly? They start getting all like weird and like horrible and racist. Yeah, well here, so a follow up to the whole cutout thing, they actually caught somebody that had like,
Starting point is 00:36:51 a psalm have been laudin', they put like in the sit stands and like all these, like characters in history that were evil, like they're putting them all over in there and planting it in there. Of course. They're like, oh, we gotta screen this better. That's exactly what's gonna happen. Yeah, but that'll make it funny though. Don't you think that'll be funny? I mean, I do, but yeah. At course. They're like, oh, we got to screen this better. That's exactly what's going to happen. Yeah. Yeah. But that'll make it funny though.
Starting point is 00:37:06 Don't you think it'll be funny? I mean, I do. At some point, at some point though, you're going to be like, come on man, you're watching a game and the whole crowd is chanting, you know, so great dick or something like that. Look at this, that's going to happen.
Starting point is 00:37:17 See, Adam is going to have to do it. Adam, I wanted to tell you something. So, Tell me something. Canombist science coming out. Okay. So, scientists have identified a cannabinoid that they're now synthesizing and stabilizing.
Starting point is 00:37:31 There's a process where they stabilize it. And it's gonna be far more potent, potent, potent. Poo-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t- to be far more potent than traditional cannabinoids found in cannabis for diseases like cancer, to help people chemotherapy, irritable bowel disease and psoriasis. What? Yeah, cause they're finding that cannabinoids may have some positive effects for psoriasis,
Starting point is 00:37:59 but really only at high doses. But if, but this particular version, you don't need to take super high doses and it'll be a medicine. So years ago, it's funny, years ago, I did so much obsessive research on cannabino. It's out at a family member who had cancer and they were terminal.
Starting point is 00:38:18 There was nothing that traditional medicine could do. So I researched all these alternative treatments and I stumbled upon a study that was done in Spain with mice and cancer and they found that THC killed cancer at really, really high doses. So I went down this path of studying cannabinoids invested in companies that were making medicines based on cannabinoids because I knew the potential. This is exactly what I predicted that they would, I didn't think that the natural cannabinoids, because I knew the potential. This is exactly what I predicted, that they would, I didn't think that the natural cannabinoids would be powerful enough
Starting point is 00:38:49 to be used for acute conditions. I know that cannabinoids are good for like long-term chronic issues for some people, but for like cancer and other types of diseases, you probably need super high concentrated doses or synthetic versions that are more targeted. And I thought, I bet you in the future they're going to start figuring it. It's a whole new class of drugs.
Starting point is 00:39:10 So they made it. That's what's happening. That's what's happening. That's what they're talking about. Who's the company that's doing it? I'll pull it up for you. I believe it's a, let me see. I think it's an Israeli company if I'm not mistaken. You know, they're the leaders right now in cannabis research. Dr. Raphael McCoolham, and I don't know where he's from, doesn't say, I'm going to find out.
Starting point is 00:39:30 Oh, it's a global biotech company based in the US, EPM, interesting, which is based here. Maybe, yeah, so we should look this up. Yeah, no, see what's going on. No, that's interesting. Very interesting. Here's some more interesting science. So they did some studies on birth control pills. And they found that women who take oral contraceptives had significantly smaller hypothalamus volume, the part of the brain called the hypothalamus and women who took oral contraceptives was much smaller and they believe that this can lead to more depressive and anger symptoms.
Starting point is 00:40:12 So it definitely affects the structure. More jollian bright and information. And in the brain, right? Yeah. Yeah, you know, it's very interesting stuff. But of course, it makes sense that the hypothalamus controls certain hormones. So if you're taking a hormone from the outside, then you know, it should definitely have that what's that called, negative feedback loop or whatever.
Starting point is 00:40:29 I got some for you. Nothing to do with science that I thought was really interesting to me. Did you know that there is a single person, a single company who has monopolized all the luggage that we lose and has turned it into a massive business? What? Since like, I want to say. What do you mean a single course? Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:40:47 So first of all, airlines lose collectively, billions of dollars a year, on billions of dollars a year, sorry, both of us here can't speak today. Yeah, I don't know if it's going on. A year on lost luggage. So you know, you have like, when you eat, we fly, there's like, it's insured by a certain amount of you have that option you eat we fly there like it's insured by a certain matter You have that option to ensure like your luggage and then if it if you if the airline loses it They reimburse you X amount X amount of dollars and so lost luggage happens all the time So they just hold it in like so they so they hold it in a facility
Starting point is 00:41:19 Yeah, in a warehouse for months, you know I think I want to say 30 or 60 days is something after they've tried to find who has it. And then once that's done, then they auction it off like how storage units get sold. But one person started that and it all goes to him, his company. And so, yes. And then he turns around and then resells it.
Starting point is 00:41:39 What a smart, I know. Does he sell it like those storage containers? Costs and supplies. No, no, no, you can go shop it. So there's a, I forget where the store is at. So maybe Doug can look up luggage resell business. So it's a store. It's one store.
Starting point is 00:41:53 It's all close and vibrators. It's, what else is there to be in there? Yeah. No, I mean, yeah, there's gonna be a lot of, I mean, so it's unseen, like he pays, he pays by the weight, right? Like, you know, 4,000 pounds of luggage, cost X amount of dollars, and you just,
Starting point is 00:42:09 but just like storage units, right? They don't get to see what's inside of it, you just bid on it, and that's what you get it for. But I mean, he's not bidding against anybody. So I mean, he's negotiated his prices and his deals, and this has been going on since like, I wanna say late 60s or early 70s. I wonder how many drugs they find.
Starting point is 00:42:26 So okay, that gets turned over. So they talk about- So they take the products. Anything illegal that gets found like that, or even- Nobody's skimming off those, huh? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:35 We found traces of cocaine. Yeah, traces. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, because we spilled it. Yeah, we spilled it. We found a half kilo in there. Yeah, yeah. What's all over your shirt? I love it.
Starting point is 00:42:47 Yeah, I love it. Look at the nation's only retailer of lost luggage. No, weird. I know, where is it located? It's like the middle America somewhere. I love to go shopping there. I know. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:43:00 That's weird. Alabama. I mean, it makes sense. I mean, he's probably killing it. Of course, if you have a monopoly, you thought every, but how does he not hold on a second? Monopolys don't exist unless there's laws
Starting point is 00:43:11 that say that other companies can't do this. So I'm assuming that the airlines have made an exclusive deal with him. Right. And no other, okay. In contract. Interesting. Yeah, no, I think it's crazy.
Starting point is 00:43:23 Never tell you about the time that I almost, my mom almost beat me in the airport. This reminds Interesting. Yeah. I think it's crazy. I've ever told you about the time that I almost my mom almost beat me in the at the airport. This reminds me of that. Yeah. Me too in the airport. I almost got a beat down in the airport. We were with our shoe. Yeah. I almost got hit with the shoe. We were a track. We were leaving Italy and I was 12 and when I was in Italy with my cousin, we bought these cap guns that were made out of metal. This is before, oh my God. We run an airport with Cap guns. Hold on a second. Oh man.
Starting point is 00:43:49 Imagine today, that. Well, imagine today. That's what I'm trying to explain. So people don't understand this. In the mid 90s, you know, you were a kid, you could buy a toy gun that looked like a gun and was metal. Like it was literally felt and look like a gun and was metal. Like it was literally felt and-
Starting point is 00:44:06 I had one. Like a gun, right? Then the only thing that made it, maybe you think it was not a gun, would maybe be a little orange like a thing. No, that did not come until we got older. Well, as a kid, the ours did not have an orange, the yellow tip, or the orange tip.
Starting point is 00:44:19 Neither did mine, so sometimes they did, but mine did it, and not to take it off. Yeah, that did not come. That did not, you guys don't remember, I you take it off. Which you're right. That did not come. You guys don't remember, I remember when that happened. When I was playing guns, when I was real little, none of them had that. As I started to get older, that was like,
Starting point is 00:44:32 and I remember being a kid. Maybe they gave you a real gun to play with. Yeah, stupid. No, you remember that, Doug, you remember that, right? I never remember that. Yeah, we did not have the orange tip. That was a law that was passed. I want to say in the 90s when that happens. Yeah, when that happens.
Starting point is 00:44:48 So it was a metal cap gun that looked just like a revolver and I packed it in my suitcase. This is the first time I ever packed my own luggage. You know, my mom's like, pack your own luggage. How have I not heard this story, bro? It goes through and the thing goes off and the security over there is like, you know, around my parents and my mom's like,
Starting point is 00:45:10 what, what, what, what, and they're like, what do you have in your luggage? She's like, close, I don't know, nothing. And I think my parents, I'm gonna call them out. I think my parents thought for a second that they were gonna be in trouble for smuggling like, salamis and shit, cause you spent,
Starting point is 00:45:24 you're not, you're not, you're not're supporting you that supposed to do that right but I think I had like cheeses and salami's and stuff so I can tell like the panic you know on their face like oh fuck the car as you know and then they pulled out my cap gun and the look my mom gave me I was like oh thank you god for putting me in public right now if I was not in public this would be bad right there, God. That's why I remember vividly too, like they used to have all those signs of like, what was not acceptable to bring in?
Starting point is 00:45:52 And so they had like, of course guns, like knives, but then there was like hammers and there was a fucking chainsaw. Like somebody, like I'm like a chainsaw, like you know somebody had to have gone through there with a chainsaw for them to even put them on there, you know, it's so crazy, dude, that's so funny. You know what else I was thinking about? I was driving back from from trucky when we were coming back from the house and I was
Starting point is 00:46:17 in traffic and I was like, what okay, there was all these people like taking the the turn to get off at this one place where there was fields of these sunflowers I have never seen like hundreds of people at once taking selfies in front of these sunflowers I like is this a thing is this a new thing like people like it was like a status thing or all of a sudden But the selfie things kind of weird when you think about it, right? It's extremely weird. You're not meant to put pictures of it. I've never seen that before, dude. I was just like amazed at how many people were doing it.
Starting point is 00:46:50 Well, that's like the ice cream business thing that I brought up, the San Francisco, the ice cream museum. It was literally built for selfies. For selfies. That's the reason why it's and it blew up because of that. Yeah. Yeah, 100%. 1992.
Starting point is 00:47:03 See that? Come out with your orange gun. The orange gun did not come out. so when were you playing with guns holdry? Oh, you mean at 92 for to remember that That would I was 81 so 12 11 nice try you're trying to Oh, yeah, so no, I'm not trying to screw you use 18 So you're 18 when you're still playing with toy guns out of me remember that you give me this time Yeah, yeah, they try guys like 11. Okay. I was 11. even remember that. Did you give me this time? Yeah, they tried, guys. I was like 11, okay? I was 11, I remember that transition
Starting point is 00:47:27 because it was cool and 90, but it was not so cool and 90. I remember being pissed. I remember this is stupid. That was half of the fun, was it? It felt real, yeah. Even when the Airsoft guns came out, like the first round of them,
Starting point is 00:47:41 they didn't have the distinction that they were like Airsoft guns. They look like legit, like it saw rivals in sniper rifles. Dude, my cousin had a machine gun cap gun and it literally was a machine gun cap gun. Broom, broom, broom, broom, and it looked like a machine gun. That's crazy.
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Starting point is 00:49:10 He's huge. Yeah. So some of the best ways you can get strong at pull ups. Number one, this is the best, this is one of the best techniques you could do to improving your pull ups. Let's say you could do, you know, a couple. You wanna get better at them,
Starting point is 00:49:23 but you're only good enough to get, you know, or strong enough to get to. Every day, throughout the day, maybe three times a day, just do one. Do one pull-up. Walk by a pull-up bar, do one pull-up bar, and oh, excuse me, one pull-up, and then go about your day, and then maybe later on the day, do the same thing. Practice the skill of doing a pull-up. And by the way, when you're practicing the skill that does not mean you're treating
Starting point is 00:49:43 it like a workout necessarily, you're not trying to get a workout with a pull-up. And by the way, when you're practicing the skill that does not mean you're treating it like a workout necessarily, you're not trying to get a workout with a pull-up, you're just practicing the pull-up every once in a while or every time you pass by the pull-up bar. I had a female client years ago who this was her goal. Her goal was to be able to do six pull-ups. This was like a big thing for her. And this is what I did. I said, okay, put up a pull-up bar in your house, in your bedroom, in the door frame, or whatever.
Starting point is 00:50:06 And every time you walk by the door, just do one. Just jump up, do one pull-up, and leave. Within a matter of, I think it was a very short period. I was like, it was a matter of two months. She went from being able to do three pull-ups to be able to do six pull-ups. And a two-month period. It's such an effective strategy.
Starting point is 00:50:22 And this is what I, I don't know, you brought this example up with somebody else. But I still use this same technique for benching. in a two month period. It's such an effective strategy. And this is what I, I don't know if you brought this example up with somebody else, but I still use this same technique for benching. And I would just come in and I would bench and I would do one rep and then I would put it back and just get my body acclimated to the amount of weight and the load. And it's great because you're not under any fatigue.
Starting point is 00:50:40 Like my, I'm just literally working on the strength and the recruitment of it and teaching my body, you know, how much force outputs it to provide. And, you know, we get to the endurance part later. So you wanna do multiple reps. You know, that comes after you establish what kind of strength requirement your body needs to be able to pull stuff.
Starting point is 00:51:00 Well, to that point, have you guys, this is less convenient for somebody who's in a gym, but more convenient for somebody who has a home gym. Have you ever gone over and pulled four, 500 pounds for a single two or three times? You know, like do one single rest, do another single rest, and then go over and go do pull up.
Starting point is 00:51:19 Oh, man. You fly up the board. Yeah, just like it's like priming your CNS. Oh, yeah, if you can deadlift, you know, more than you weigh, especially if you can do it significantly more, you know, three, four, 500 pounds, and do a couple sets of singles, you know, don't try to go to fatigue or go to maxing out, but go to a heavy load, 80, 80% plus of your max
Starting point is 00:51:42 and do some singles a couple times, and then go over and do pull-ups and you just fly up the bar. So that's to that kind of point. And then the other thing that I made the mistake early on when I was a trainer trying to get good at pull-ups and my strategy was before the workout, I'd start off with as many as I could get. It was like, and back when I very, very first start, it was like seven, it was hard.
Starting point is 00:52:07 And then I'd get up to eight, then I get to nine, then I get to 10, I kept doing that. To eventually to where I could, I think the most ever got was 20-something pull ups around 25 I think, is about where I maxed out for the total amount that I could ever do in a row. And that took a long time to get there. It wasn't until way later, did I ever mess with loading my pull up really heavy and just
Starting point is 00:52:28 doing one or two. And I actually shot up way faster doing that and got way stronger doing pull ups by doing singles doubles and triples of really as heavy as I could to do, to only get out a couple, then I was by just trying to add a wrap or two to it. That was a much better strategy for getting good at pull ups than just doing reps. Some other things you can do, let's say that even doing one pull up is difficult for you.
Starting point is 00:52:58 Use a resistance band, tie it around the pull up bar so that it hangs down, stick your foot in it or your knee in it depending on how long the band is. So now it's kind of partially supporting your leg. Our bring it over the J hooks and put it low enough to where you can set it up that way. That's how I like to do it usually. But this way is in just if you have a pull-up bar.
Starting point is 00:53:15 Put it on the bar, step in it. Now it's assisting you. Now you can do assisted pull-ups. Here's the other way. You could literally get a box or something, a step ladder or something like that. Get up to the pull- up bar so that it looks like you finished the pull up, hold onto the bar and then lower your body weight down slowly
Starting point is 00:53:30 and just practice that. That's a negative. Practice, negatives. But frequent practice at sub max intensity will get you there faster than just doing hard pull ups once a week. Next question is from Lamar. Second, I think training biceps is the most boring thing
Starting point is 00:53:49 to do in the gym. Amen, brother. It's Justin for sure. Do you have any advice on how to keep bicep training fun and interesting? I cannot relate to this. Yeah, I know. I cannot relate to this at all.
Starting point is 00:54:01 I have no tips, because I'm still like with this game. Never skipped bicep. So okay, so here's something for you, okay? You don't like bicep training, it's boring. I get what you're talking about. Bicep training, it's a lot of isolation, single joint movements. You sound like somebody who enjoys doing
Starting point is 00:54:17 the challenging functional movements or the big compound lifts. Here's the truth, okay. If you're doing heavy pulls, heavy cleans, heavy rows, heavy pull. You don't need to do too much of it. Yeah, you don't need to do too much, you know, bicep work, you really don't.
Starting point is 00:54:32 I mean, just sprinkle it in there. Yeah, heavy high pulls, like, okay, in the program we have on sale this month is map strong, right? Taff off. In that program, there's a snatch grip, high pull. That'll hammer your biceps. That's going to give you great results for your biceps. In fact, as a kid, I noticed my biceps got better results from doing
Starting point is 00:54:52 movements like that than from doing the, you know, curls and all the isolation exercises. So that's one thing you could do is you don't necessarily need to do specific bicep work. Just throwing more heavy pulling work. Here's the other thing you can do, okay? Have some fun doing heavy strength training with biceps. Now, I don't recommend this to everybody, but you can do this if you're bored. A hammer curl is a great exercise you could do with one arm where you're kind of practicing no joke,
Starting point is 00:55:20 singles and doubles. You know, arm wrestlers do this. This is a favorite exercise among arm wrestlers with a grab a heavy dumbbell, and they'll do one heavy curl and let it go down real slow, and they'll practice doing singles like they're practicing a deadlift or a squat. That stuff is a lot of fun. You do not, you know, and I was joking
Starting point is 00:55:39 that I can't relate or answer for you, but you do not need to do bicep curls. If you or somebody who, if you are doing pull-ups and you're deadlifting, you're doing snatch, I mean, if you're doing all those exercises, supinated rows, then biceps are getting worked. They are not getting neglected whatsoever. Now, if you said to me, Adam, I want better biceps and you don't like your bicep development and then you're also asking, I hate training them. Okay, well, that's a different conversation.
Starting point is 00:56:07 But if you're doing bicep curls just because you think that you need to do bicep curls or maybe you're following even one of our programs and it has bicep curls in it, but you're doing everything else, you don't have to, that's another thing too. It's like when we talk, like, the programs since day one, right, when we created them were with the intent to mold them to you, right?
Starting point is 00:56:27 Like it's the idea was to give people a very solid blueprint that if you followed it to a tee, you're fine, you're set. But if you have things that you care about or you don't care about, to customize. So, you know, if you were following a program like maps aesthetic or maps in a ballic and where there's bicep curls in there and you're already doing a lot of pull ups, deadlifting and you'd rather do maybe abs inserted in there instead or do another set of big getting better
Starting point is 00:56:55 at perfecting your squat or doing some more prime mobility work because you know you need that. You know, or you know, adding, you know, carries in there because that's not in anabolic. I mean, shit, do it. I don't say do it. Don't stress having to do bicep curls. That's not a necessary thing to do
Starting point is 00:57:14 if you are doing good back exercises, buys are getting a good workout. Well, we never really talk about some of these unconventional lifts because it's very, you're not gonna find them in the gym, it's something that's not commonly seen and that's working with ropes.
Starting point is 00:57:32 And so I've done rope climbs and I've also done rope pulls where I'm in a seated position and I'm pulling the rope and I'm doing that over, like a certain amount of time. If you want to talk about frying your arms and your biceps and your grip and everything else, it's a really challenging exercise and a lot of fun too. There's ways you can get creative with this.
Starting point is 00:57:59 I tend to be probably the one that gets most creative because I hate bicep curls. I think it's boring, it's boring, and it's a slow death for me. But there's lots of ways around it. Yeah, well, okay, so here's your evidence. If you think, oh man, it's boring, but I have to do it.
Starting point is 00:58:17 But I do do lots of heavy pull-ups and pulls and stuff like that. Like what's gonna happen? The athletes with the best biceps you'll ever find anywhere. Besides bodybuilders. Gymnists. Besides bodybuilders and people with a way, gymnasts, and they don't ever do a bicep. No, look at a male gymnast arms and bite. Now I know there's a bit of a bias because they're probably genetically gifted and doesn't matter though, you can tell their biceps are way more developed than any other athletes
Starting point is 00:58:41 because of all the pull-ups and ringwork that they do. They don't do curls. I mean, I know gymnasts that some of them do some curls here and there, but that's not a staple. Their staples are in such a state of tension, trying to keep stability that the contraction there in all those muscles that it requires is insane. Most insane biceps ever seen my life was a trainer
Starting point is 00:59:00 that worked for me who had done, was a gymnast for years and years and years. He had the most insane looking arms and I remember asking him like, how often do you do curls? Like what's the deal? And he goes, I rarely ever do him. I actually don't do him that often,
Starting point is 00:59:14 but he did pull ups all the time. You're right. Next question is from Emoy 5. What are some of the best workout tips for using resistance bands? Don't allow the bands to sit in the sun and dry out. What happened to you? Did they snap on your work?
Starting point is 00:59:29 I think everybody's had a band snap on it. Don't let your trainer put it around you and then have you run with it? Yeah, that always a good. Have you guys ever smacked a client with the hooker band? Yeah, of course. It came back, actually, I was doing that as a trainer and it broke, but it got me. So it came back and it hit me in the ribs.
Starting point is 00:59:49 I had like the biggest Welton brews for a couple weeks. Dude, I hit one of my older male clients right in the pills. Oh, yeah, right in the pills, hard. Last time he restarted. No, not. He stopped after that. So, okay, so it's funny, No, not. He stopped after that. So okay, so it's funny, the funny thing about resistance bands, this is very interesting.
Starting point is 01:00:11 We have a bit of a unique perspective because we've been in the fitness space professionally in the gym space for two decades or over two decades, right? So you see trends and what becomes favorable and unfavorable. And I, bands probably, I can't think of another tool that went from nobody respected it all to becoming extremely valuable. And a relatively short period of time, when I first started working out, you, you couldn't, you wouldn't catch a single lifter using bands. If they did, they would be made fun of for the rest of your life. Was it Westside Barbell that popularized them? Yes.
Starting point is 01:00:49 Powerlifting coaches were the ones that started popularizing bands because, well, what happened was a lot of these coaches were studying the lifting techniques and workout programs of Eastern Block lifters, former Soviet Union nations. And remember when the iron curtain came down, all of their information became available to us. And these countries had like funding, massive funding from the communist regime
Starting point is 01:01:18 because it was a source of pride, right, that their athletes did stuff. So they studied all kinds of different lifting techniques. And one thing that they discovered was variable resistance was extremely effective at building strength, a very, very effective at building strength. Because it mimics the strength curve. It mimics the strength curve.
Starting point is 01:01:35 So what I'm talking about is, and our coaches over here saw this, read this, and the smart ones applied it, and then they became dominant. So a strength curve is this, right? When you're doing a squat, for example, you're not the same strength throughout the whole squat. Most of us are strongest at the top of the squat
Starting point is 01:01:53 and weakest at the bottom of the squat. So imagine when you're doing a heavy squat, where are you most likely to not be able to lift the weight, where are you most likely to be able to lift the most amount of weight, right? At the top you're the strongest at the bottom of be able to lift the most amount of weight, right, at the top, you're the strongest, at the bottom, you're the weakest. Now the problem with free weights, or most machines, or any other piece of equipment, is that the equipment, excuse me, the resistance is pretty consistent.
Starting point is 01:02:14 So if I'm squatting 300 pounds, whether I'm at the top of the squat, or the bottom of the squat, it's 300 pounds. What a band does when I attach bands to the side of the bar and attach them down to an anchor. So let's say I tie them to the squat rack at the bottom up at the so they're on the barbell and they're at the bottom of the squat rack. What a band does is it gives you more resistance at the top and less resistance to the bottom because when you have a band, the further you stretch it out, the harder the resistance becomes and the when it's barely stretched out, the resistance is very easily, excuse me, very easy.
Starting point is 01:02:48 So when you're squatting with bands, now you have 300 pounds on the bar, but you have, let's say, an additional 100 pounds of resistance at the top of the squat, but at the bottom, it's only maybe 20 pounds of resistance. And it gradually increases. So it's not like a huge demand all at once. No. increases, so it's not like a huge demand all at once. No, and this resistance trains your muscles through their natural strength curve, and it's incredible for strength gains. That's my second favorite way to use resistance bands.
Starting point is 01:03:18 My first favorite way is with the trigger session. Trigger sessions work, they actually work better with bands than they do with weights. I think it's because bands don't cause as much damage to muscle. In a trigger session, you'll find that in Maps and Abolic, but for those of you who don't have the program, here's how you can apply a trigger session. Get yourself a pair of bands. On your days off, do light exercises and movements for about 10 minutes, two or three times during the day, for maybe three or four of your target body parts. So let's say it's your shoulders,
Starting point is 01:03:51 your triceps, your biceps, and your back. So you're going to do band exercises for each of those, get a little bit of a pump, and just send a small muscle building signal, but really what you're doing is you're facilitating recovery, improving mobility, improving blood flow, and it turbocharges the results you get from your workouts. That's my favorite way to do that.
Starting point is 01:04:10 Speaking of, are we sold out still? Do you know? I don't know. I haven't seen a box come through in a while from our bands. Do we have them? I haven't seen this come through. As soon as we list them, they're gone. No, I know, it's been crazy right now.
Starting point is 01:04:23 My favorite part about resistance band is just the convenience of them. Anybody who's been training in a gym long enough knows that when you're inside of a gym, one of the most versatile machines out there are the cable machines. Because you can move the anchoring point and you can move your contours to your body
Starting point is 01:04:43 and so you could do all these great, you could do a full body extra routine with one cable machine, like a free motion machine, really well. Good bands the same way, especially if you have, I mean the ones that we sell have the different anchor points that I could put at the bottom of a door, the side of a door, the top of the door,
Starting point is 01:04:57 and so I can create all kinds of different angles and I could do a full body routine and I could carry it around in this little pouch. So I love it for that. Like of course, what Sal saying for my advanced lifters or listeners, I think bands and chains are great tools to break through plateaus and to improve strength gains.
Starting point is 01:05:17 But for the masses and for most people, I just think it's one of those things that you should have. Like everybody should just have a set of like good band, like a basic set of bands for that time that you're gonna work out inside a hotel or that time you're gonna be at a park or that time that you're just gonna you want to get a little bit of exercise in
Starting point is 01:05:34 and you can get a really nice workout. Yeah, I really got into bands. I was thinking back when I was in college and there was a physical therapy clinic on site. And after workouts, I would kind of go in there and discuss things with them. And they would work all with rubber bands. They would treat everybody's rubber bands.
Starting point is 01:05:55 They were fantastic for rehabilitation exercises. And that's when I started actually using them a lot more and started to actually superset them, you know, in combo with With dumbbells or barbells and I saw some some pretty awesome gains as a result. Yeah, I love bands I discovered them not that long ago. Maybe you know, I want to say eight years ago It's actually a long time ago, but you know, I've been working out for so long. It seems like it was recent. And ever since I discovered them, they were like, they were game-chained. Adam, do you remember one of the first,
Starting point is 01:06:29 maybe the first workout you and I ever had together? Do you remember you came to my studio, my wellness facility, and you and I did a deadlift? Yeah, work out together. Work out together. This wrong, so I will be crushed. Yeah, no, I have, I have video of that. Yeah, oh, you do.
Starting point is 01:06:42 Yeah, yeah, we, we, we, don't show them because we were all jacked. I know, I was, I think I was like, we were banded up on like three 15 and I was pulling it like it was butter. Yeah, so, so what I was gonna say is, here's another, this is an advanced tip. So if you're a beginner intermediate,
Starting point is 01:06:54 this probably won't benefit you, but if you're an advanced lifter, this is brilliant. Another good thing about the band is I can change where it's pulling from to emphasize different, different angles of a lift. So I'll give you an example. So Adam and I, we were doing dead lifts that day together. Now, one of the things about a dead lift is you have to,
Starting point is 01:07:13 you wanna be able to pull back. You wanna create the force that you're trying to create with a dead lift is not just to lift the weight up, but rather to kinda lift it back at the same time. Lockout. To lock it out. So what we did is we attached the bands to the bar and then in front of us on the on the on the cage,
Starting point is 01:07:29 that way we have to really emphasize that pull back at the top. You do a few sets of that and then take the bands off, watch your form. It primes that movement and gives you better technique with your lift. You could do this with a lot of different exercises. All right, next question is from Captain Tanya BC.
Starting point is 01:07:47 What are your suggestions for building bone health and strength? What do you suggest for people with osteopenia who are progressing towards osteoporosis? I know resistance training is great for this, but is there a certain way to approach it when you've got one or both of these? You probably dealt with this a lot, Sal. I did. I actually, one client in particular, I trained quite a few clients in osteophenia and osteoporosis towards the end of my career. I had a lot of doctor clients and then they would refer patients to me. One lady that I trained, she had osteophenia and she was on
Starting point is 01:08:22 treatments for it. They would give her very, very harsh medication to try and reverse this because her bone loss was happening pretty quickly. Now the thing was she was already active. She did lots of walking and she ate a pretty healthy diet. She did not lift weights though. So she hires me because someone tells her that lifting weights will help build bone. And we did. We started lifting weights, and her doctor would annually, or by annually measure her bone density. They were so blown away by the, not only just stopping the bone loss,
Starting point is 01:08:57 but actually the reversal of it, they were so blown away by it that the doctor actually did a case study on her and had me write some stuff that he could present. I don't remember why he was presenting it, but as basically to say that resistance training was just remarkably effective. Here's the thing about lifting weights or just resistance training in particular.
Starting point is 01:09:19 We think of it as building muscle. It's a bone builder, just as much as it's a muscle builder, just as much. I remember this muscle builder, just as much. I remember this with Dr. Spina kind of has this whole like presentation about how each one of these tissues, whether it's ligaments, whether it's muscle tissue, whether it's bone, they all interact with each other and force is the communication between it all. So it's really applying the right amount that affects all these tissues together. Yes. So because muscle anchors on bone as muscle strengthens and pulls harder, bone just strengthens. Nothing, nothing is more effective than resistance training for strengthening bone. If you have osteophenia,
Starting point is 01:10:01 osteoporosis, there isn't a single thing you can do that will help you more effectively, that's natural, than resistance training. In fact, I don't think there's any medication that will even come close as well. Now, the question is, how do I do this? Heavy weight training is the best way. Now, it has to be appropriate, so good form.
Starting point is 01:10:22 Right, heavy for a 70-year-old. You gotta keep that in mind. Like, people here are heavy and they think, oh, okay. No, it for a 70 year old. You gotta keep that in mind. People hear heavy and they think, oh, okay, you should know. No, it's all relative. Right. It's all relative, but in other words, you need to do traditional strength training,
Starting point is 01:10:32 not circuits, not hit training, not anything like that, but like seven, eight reps of a squat or a dead breath. Proper rest periods for recovery. Yes, now the best exercises for this, all resistance training exercises are good, but the best ones are the ones that load the entire body in the spine.
Starting point is 01:10:49 Barbell squat, barbell deadlift, overhead press. I think of carries. Carries are really good. Carries for someone like this, I think is just tremendous. I mean, walking is such a fundamental thing we should be doing anyways. It's an easy thing to progressively overload with a client that's advanced age.
Starting point is 01:11:05 It's like, I could start her off with just carrying 20 pound dumbbells in her hand. And that could be a load for her that she's not used to and then slowly work up to a trap bar and adding weight to it. And that's one of the things I've always loved about the carries when we got into them was that, you just feel that from the neck down.
Starting point is 01:11:22 And what that is, the reason why the bones are growing, that's an adaptation response to the stress. You're getting, the bones are being stressed that you're carrying a heavy load. So they're gonna get thicker and more dense to support that. And so doing exercises that are loading the body and like to your point, yeah, that are from head to toe. And I think farmer carries is a must inside there.
Starting point is 01:11:45 And it's teaching a 70 year old, how to perform a squat if they've never learned how to do it is could be really difficult. Well, I'll tell you about this later, right? So she was in her late 60s, never had resistance trained before and you know, you always want to train appropriate. Okay, so again, it's all relative,
Starting point is 01:12:02 but when we started, literally the lower body exercise we started with, I would have her hold on to the squat rack with one hand, get into a split stance like she's doing a lunge. I put a pad underneath her, she would kneel down on the pad and then stand back up. So it's like a modified lunge. And I wouldn't have her do very many. She wasn't very strong when we started. By the end of, I wanna say a year and a half of training, she was doing barbell squats with a 30 pound barbell on her back, so not a lot, but way stronger than she was before. She was deadlifting 90 pounds, which is significant, right?
Starting point is 01:12:37 Off the ground, she was a small petite lady too. Overhead pressing the 12 pound dumbbells. We were bench pressing with a 30 pound barbell. We were barbell rowing with I think 30 pounds, something like that. So we had progressed to all these movements. She had gotten strong with them. And again, the doctor was so shocked
Starting point is 01:12:57 because there's a point when osteophenia becomes osteoporosis and the best that they can hope for is like stopping it. This is what they kind of like slowing it down. Sloving it down. Not only did she stop it, she started reversing to the point where we were getting to the point where the doctor was almost gonna take her off that classification and say you no longer have, and that's a, apparently
Starting point is 01:13:19 that's a tough thing or rare thing for them to see. Now what? What medication would they prescribe? Say you're in that situation. I think she was on Faza Max, I wanna say. I think that's the name. How do you remember that? Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:13:31 I'm knowing it. That's why I ask, because I know how they do that. And I train those clients too, maybe not as many as you do, but the fact that you remember the medication that they take? Yeah, that is what it was. It was Faza Max. That's stupid gift. Yeah, and the side effects are, I mean,
Starting point is 01:13:44 they get a lot of side effects from it and stuff. Super power. Yeah, it's just stop. It is just stupid. Here's the other thing with the fucking medications. I can't remember the medication I had to take. You take every day. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:56 Yeah, I always take less than I should. Yeah, I mean, but you know, here's the other thing with, let's talk about diet for a second. So long as you don't have any nutrient deficiencies, because if you have osteophenium, I'm sure they're checking your vitamin D levels. I'm sure they're checking your calcium levels. If all of your nutrients, your micronutrients are okay,
Starting point is 01:14:14 then what you wanna do is you wanna eat a diet that's best for building muscle. Okay, so I know a high protein diet, for example, has not been shown in literature to build bone or strengthen bone. That's not the point. What we want to do is we want to feed the body that gets in a way that builds the most strength in the muscle because it's the pulling of the muscle that anchors on the bone, that
Starting point is 01:14:37 causes the bone to get. So I had her eat. She was eating and she did not like meat when we first started training, but over time, she started to appreciate it. I had her eating about 0.8 grams of protein per pound of body weight. She was eating a traditional muscle building diet. I feel like that was a big part of the world. That's such a good point.
Starting point is 01:14:56 There's another example of when science misses the mark, right? Because you're studying, we tend to isolate things like bones. Right. You increase your protein one to one gram, it doesn't do anything for the bones. But you can't factor in that, or you're not factoring in, that person also ended up building five or 10 more pounds of muscle, which building 10 more pounds of muscle
Starting point is 01:15:15 did actually respond. Yes, because muscles are the ones that are lifting the weights, and the more weight you can lift, the more the bone needs to adapt to support that. So you want to eat a diet that makes your muscles as strong as possible. If you want to strengthen your bone and that's just like the diet, we always talk about which is a high protein diet balance with carbs and with fats. Look, mine pump is recorded on video as well as audio.
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