Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1341: The Best Landmine Exercises, When to Use Supersets in Your Training, Favorite 90s Era Fitness Trends & More

Episode Date: July 22, 2020

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about favorite landmine attachment exercises, when supersets are appropriate to add to your workouts, 90s era fitness trends they wish were still around, and sending kids back to school in this age of COVID. Adam is a BIG golf guy now. (4:27) Old school father’s expectations, resentment towards your partner & MORE. (7:52) Mind Pump Weekend Update. (13:40) Conspiracy theorists' heads are exploding! (19:15) Spotify is dominating the new media space. (25:13) Cannabinoids and its anti-inflammatory dimming effects. (30:21) Why Sal will never eat regular pork again. (34:07) Why Google is having issues buying Fitbit. (36:00) Firearm sales are through the roof! (38:10) #Quah question #1 – What are some of your favorite landmine attachment exercises? (43:27) #Quah question #2 – Can you discuss when supersets are appropriate and when they are not? Some people say they are only suitable for antagonistic muscles. What is your approach to programming? (47:13) #Quah question #3 – What's one thing from the 90s era fitness that you wish was still around today and why is the ultimate orange? (52:11) #Quah question #4 – With schools getting ready to go back, how do each of you feel about sending your kids back to school? Will you, or won’t you? Also, how do you handle this situation if you and your spouse have very different feelings and opinions about it? (59:16) Related Links/Products Mentioned July Promotion: MAPS Strong ½ off!! **Promo code “STRONG50” at checkout** Dead ‘Men's Rights' Attorney Eyed in Shootings of NJ Federal Judge's Son, Husband: FBI Spotify has dominated its competition in global subscribers despite the pandemic Visit NED for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Visit Butcher Box for this month’s exclusive Mind Pump offer! Google Offers Data Pledge in Bid to Win EU Okay for Fitbit Buy Gun Sales Are Surging Among First-Time Owners Amid the Pandemic — Here's Why St. Louis couple who pulled guns on protesters charged How To Do A Kettlebell Half Kneeling Windmill Press | FREE Shoulder Growth Guide Landmine Basic Lunge Shoulder Press The Upper Body Landmine Workout You NEED To Try! Mind Pump TV - YouTube MAPS Fitness Products How To Use Supersets For Maximum Muscle Gain – Mind Pump Blog Mind Pump Podcast - YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Danny Matranga | CSCS | BSc. (@danny.matranga)  Instagram

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Nobody ever gets good at golf. You're wearing the clothes for me. Hey, I will say this though. I hated that sport up until becoming a dad. I really did. Why do you think, when is it actually plays? No, I didn't play. I get it now.

I get it now. I gotta hear why though. Yeah, because, and I don't wanna sell out any dads right now, already that have wives that are listening to Mindbump. Pluggers? Yeah, wives don't know exactly how long 18 holes takes. And this is like a secret dad code. Yeah.

That all dads, they're just like, listen, it can tick however long you want. It's an all day event. Yeah, it's like an all day event. And you intentionally make sure it takes all day, right? Yeah. So I appreciate that, the solitude for like, you know, straight five hours, you know, that's all. Go away.

Yeah. So that's what's making me fall in love with it. Although I will say this, you know, this was funny too. So we get to the 12 hole and we, you know, all of a sudden here come our wives show up, right? Actually Katrina didn't show up. My two buddies, wives show up and they come out and like meet us on the golf course.

And I was like, enjoying yourself. Well, it did feel like that. They come walking over carrying their kids. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, they're carrying the kids, and they come walking over. And they're like, this one and this one, they're talking about what a headache they've been for the day.

It's been like five hours. Yeah, yeah, it's been about four about that of time. You know, we still got six holes to go. And it's twilight. So anybody that's a golf, like a twilight, they give you like half price on weekdays, right? So it's Friday and we're doing- It's also glitter vampires.

But, what? No, it's left right there. Yeah. And it's, so what they do is they cram like everybody in. So you, and you got somebody in front of you, you got somebody behind you. So there's no like, can't stop and hang out with the wires for 20 minutes on the golf course.

Yeah, you have to hurry up and do the other four hours. Yeah, exactly. But you know, right after that, we'd seen them the other way. We said, we're gonna go. There's someone pushing up behind us. So we take off and then that stem the conversation of this like, you know, feeling guilty. I'm like, this kind of kills the game now. I feel like you guys are filming. Oh, because you guys left your wives? Yeah, yeah. Well, and you could tell by their wives how they felt,

that they were like, it's been a long time. Your daughter, your son's being a pain in the ass right now. When are you gonna be done? We haven't ate yet, when's dinner, all that stuff. And so I was telling them just like how, what a pain in the ass. I was like, that's kind of sucks because now you feel guilty for us being out here and golfing. And so each guy is going around and this has to be common, dad stuff. Like, you know, who's got, who's got it more made?

Like who does less of the stuff they have to do? Who gets away with more? What a weird way to brag. Yeah. I do, I do the least it. It wasn't a way of bragging. It was more like who has the the ability to go play a full-round at golf and not get shit for an afterwards. That's really what it was it what it was really about. And and the two of them watch whose wife quietly resents their husband. Yeah.

First of being vocal about it. Who she's in suppresses it way now. Yeah, and then explodes. Yeah, I think about it. It causes a divorce 15 years later. Exactly, you know what I mean? That's hilarious. Bro, the role of the father in terms of raising kids has changed so much in the last couple generations.

Like my dad has, he doesn't know what to do. He has no idea what to do with it. I tried watching my dad change diapers. That was an experience. He was just fumbling all over the place. I was like, you never did this, did you? I know, do you guys remember when that came, so my two, this actually was a conversation

that stemmed all this, right? We first talked about ourselves and how we contribute and how much of the load do wemed all this, right? We first talked about ourselves and how we contribute and how much of the load do we carry with raising our kids? And they both were saying, it's so crazy how different it is, like what we're expected to do as fathers

in comparison to what our dads, both my buddies said, like I had no idea that my dads didn't do shit until we had our kids. Yeah, it was once we had our kids and we brought him over. He's like, you know, you think you're going to come see grandpa? Like, oh, I get a little bit of a breather. I can, you know, my, my dad, my dad's going to be playing with my son.

I can relax, maybe watch a little bit of TV for a little bit. Like, no, like no attention to him. Doesn't know how to change a diaper. Doesn't know how to heat up milk. He has some ice cream and puts them in front of the TV. I'm like, what the? They're like, are you serious right now?

Like, did you not raise me? Bro, my dad, what's it mean? When my, when my, the few times my dad was left alone with us when we were real little, of course, as we got older, it's different, but I'm talking about like when your babies and stuff like that, right, my dad was clueless.

The few times my mom did that, where she would go to her mom's house, which is down the street, my dad would call her her and he'd call her up and be like, hey, the baby pooped. So my mom would have to come home and you think I'm joking. I just brought my laughing because that's how it was. So this before cell phones, right? One time my mom went to the store and my dad was home alone. And it was like an hour, but in my, hour, but my brother had just gone to the bathroom,

my mom changed the diaper, she's like, it's safe, let me take off. Well, I guess he wasn't done yet, right? So he takes another crap or whatever. My sister taught my dad had to put the, because my sister had dolls. So she's like, no, that's wrong, blah, blah, that's backwards. And so she's helping them out.

And it's like a funny story. Yeah, you think it's bad, dude. Talk about, on top of it, old-school Southern Italians is even, now granted, that doesn't mean they did nothing. They, in the tradition, it was that they worked, right? They were, but they didn't do anything or know anything else to the point where my ex-wife's dad

did not know where his clothes were. He didn't know. He would wake up in the morning and if the clothes weren't put out in the bed for him, he'd come down to the center where, and he'd be like, and he'd be in his underwear. What was supposed to do? Yeah.

No idea. If he didn't get, he just be his underwear. I don't know where my clothes are. Where's my pants? Just helpless. No, like, you know what to do. Did you ever, have you guys ever? Do you ever get those moments of feeling a little bit guilty

like that when you realize like your partners picked up so much of the slack in an area, you're like, oh shit, like I don't actually know what I'm supposed to do right now. I'm a way different. Mainly with scheduling. Yeah, that's, I am like, oh, where am I? Yeah, all the time.

Yeah, I agree with that. I like, I have, like, I ask Katrina sometimes, where am I supposed to be this weekend? Or where are we, yeah, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like we'd probably at worst at multitasking, remembering and scheduling stuff like that. And I don't know if that's a man thing or if that's just the way, I don't know, but it's a common, it's a common complaint. Yeah, I mean, it's mainly, and I feel bad because it's mainly like every time we schedule something

with like family or people's birthdays or this or that, I'm just like, that's like a whole other world to me. And I'm just like in this, like I got to work and provide and do this and that. And the other, oh yeah, we have this birthday, what? You know, this throws me way off. The worst is this ever happened to you where like this happens to me with Jessica.

I'll type, feel so embarrassed, but yeah, I'll be talking or and I'll be like, so Saturday, you know, I wanted to do this thing, whatever. And she'd be like, yeah, and I'd be like, I'm like, what? And I know I'm like, I'm fucked, I'm like, oh man. You know we're going to be at the end of the hour. Yeah, I'll be like, what? And she'd be like, I literally just talked to you

three hours ago about what we're doing Saturday. And then, I think she thinks she's going to spark the memory in me, but I'll still be like, oh man, I don't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Can I get one more clue? Yeah, can I get one more clue? I'd be like, honey, I swear, I don't, can I get one more clue? I'd be like, honey, I swear, I don't, tell me what I have to wear.

How many people are gonna be there? At least give me that. I don't remember. It's like something important. Like my mom's birthday. Is it indoors or outdoor? I'll be like, oh yeah, that's right. You did tell me an hour ago. I don't know what to do. You know, you know, it is funny. But you know, like my dad now, um, here's another funny thing too.

How different are your parents as grandparents versus how they were as parents? How much more patient are they as grandparents? Oh, wait. Now, I think that has a lot to do with just getting older and wiser. Yeah. Because don't you feel like you're a way more patient father today than for sure, right? For sure. Because I think that this, that's the safety.

I still complain a lot. I'll be honest. Ah, it's like, it's like, man, the old has really set in. You know, but I'm like, is it set in or has it always been there? I just now notice it more. I think that part of it is your wiser and part of it is you're too tired to get super angry. You know what I mean? But when I was, I mean, I see my,

when my kid was little, I remember my dad was, you know, my mom's like, try and feed him this thing and she's trying to do thing and my son like, just smacks him in the face. And I remember like, oh no, what's gonna happen? And he laughed. He was like, who's this man? Who's laughing that a kid hit him in the face? It's not the same man that erased me.

Yeah, it was funny. I was actually, so I had vacation a bit with my parents over the weekend in San Diego. And I mean, even though I go visit them all the time, it's like when you hang out like overnight and in the morning, all as you see all these like patterns that you forgot all about, you know, and the way that they interact and stuff is pretty funny. But my dad was like, made this big ordeal to try and take my boys in the morning to go to the donut shop. And he's just like. Yeah, like he's always trying to like find that.

Like, oh yeah, your father never let you do this. So let's do this guys. You know, like always trying to undermine me and everything. And I was so, I was so proud. My kids were just like, no, we don't want, we don't want all that sugar. Ah! He didn't know what to do.

His mind like exploded. You know, like he's telling me this, he's like, well, you've definitely programmed your kids. What do you mean? He's like, I tried to get him to eat donuts this morning. They said, no. Oh my God. He did do a good job. My kids would have folded like a sheet. Well, they had it the night. I mean, dude, I mean, the past few days of them vacation. Yeah, meanwhile, Justin, does it take? This hurts all the other nights.

He's on the other side of the room going like this. Give him the dad look, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, he's just, don't get donuts, you guys. They were feeling heat from me in the other room. I wasn't even there. What do you like more donuts or your bike? You wish one, dude. I like more.

Dude, but so we were like, we went to Coronado and we're there And I was like trying to come up with something to do because apparently it was all on me to like figure something out to do it Everybody and I'm like you don't like doing anything. You know what am I supposed to do? And so I found this bike rental thing where we could all like fit in like one of those like tandem bike things It's like a little like a four or six people like wow. Yeah, so so we were all packed in this thing, right? And there's one part of the thing, on the left side you have the control,

so you actually have the break and you have the steering ability and pedal. And it's like the person that does the most work or whatever, right? And so my dad's like six, seven, I mean, I hate to throw him on blast, but he's close to 300 pounds. I mean, he's a heavy dude, right?

He's Nate, and his knees are bothering him. He's tall, and so he can't really pedal. And so he just decides, I'm just not gonna pedal. I'm like, you're a fucking dead weight. And I am pushing as hard as I can. I would, dude, we went three miles. And you were the angel. And I was the only one

Paddle I was so exhausted it like I was I was done did I passed out What did you do back did you put his legs up or what you just put them up on this like wheel well like in front It's like there's like You know this is nice Just great you know you can't say shit. You're trying to help me. She's like, oh my God, I'm so sorry. You know what I'm saying? To my mom's, like trying to help as much as you can. I wasn't doing anything.

But you can't say shit. I've been caring for decades. I'm like, can we get through? You can't just get out. You know what I mean? Like kick him on the curl. You walk back. Dude, that's hilarious.

Oh, man. Dude, my kid turned 15 this weekend. Oh, it's, this is, I didn't know that was important. Yeah, that's why I got him to BMX. Oh, 15's, I didn't know that was important. That's why I got him to BMX. 15 years old. He's reaching the age now that I clearly, clearly remember being. You know what I mean? Like if you think back, you were, like, yeah, that vivid memories of 15. Yeah, 15, right among 14, 15 is when I have a pretty clear memory of like my thought patterns and who I, so now I'm looking at my kid and

I'm like, I know, you know what I mean? I know what it's like to be 15. But he bailed for the first time on the bike the other day. Oh he did. What was he going for? He was jumping. So I gave him the, you know, he got the BMX and he's been riding around having a good time. The bunny hop lessons from Brad.

Yeah, I know. He's practicing or whatever. And we were going for a long walk and he would lead in front of us and We pass by this church and they have a parking lot or whatever so he takes off from front of us So it takes us about I don't know seven eight minutes to catch up to him when we catch up to him He's writing toward us. I think he wanted to show off and apparently he'd already done this a bunch of times So he's trying to show off from front of us and he's trying to bunny hop over a curb

But he didn't time it well and just head over over the handlebars. Now he ended hard, dude. Yeah, face in the dirt. I mean, that's all part of it. You gotta earn your strength. But I'm, you know, and Jessica freaked out of course, and I kind of recall my walk over there and I'm looking at him, and I saw his leg and I'm like, oh crap, did he break his, but he was totally fine, nothing. He just how did it affect him though? Was he cool about it and like, or was he scared of the bike now? No, I think he thinks it's cool that he fell.

Okay. Yeah, like, you know, like I got this like scratch on my face. Yeah, I just got a story. Now I can show the girl he facetimes or whatever, you know, like, oh, yeah. He's trying some big jump. You notice that they're on my face, you know? Yeah, you see, you know, yeah.

Jumped over a few, you know. He told fire pits. He told his mom, a lie though, because I go to drop him off at his mom's house and so his face is kind of scuffed right here, right? And so him and I are pretty good. We're pretty good team and we're bullshitting because we keep a straight face and just riff off each other. It's a really nice bonding time. So he shows up. Is it time I said to be a good liar? Oh, it's so good. His mom's like, oh my God, what happened to your face? And he makes his face and he goes, this homeless guy was trying to steal my bike.

She's like, shut up. And I'm like, no, I don't want to tell you. And so we're going back and forth with each other. He's like, you grab the bike and he push me off. And then I grab the bike back. And he's like, luckily, but Bob showed up and the dude ran away. And we're telling a story for like 10 minutes.

And she's just like, oh, man, we got to move. What the fuck? We got to move. It's terrible. It's horrible. And then yeah, we both start laughing and she's pissed off or whatever. Yeah. Yeah, it's a good time. Dude, ready for some more conspiracy stuff?

Oh, yeah, we should please God. Are you serious, you guys? No, this is a deal. I'm going to turn our podcast into the conspiracy podcast. I've been avoiding it all weekend, so I'm ready for some fresh ideas. Listen, okay, this is the best time. This is the best time in my life for conspiracy theories.

Everything is so weird that everything is believable. But here's the thing, this is not a crazy one. This actually happened. You guys ready for this? What's here? So a federal judge, judge Salas, was assigned four days ago to unravel all of the money laundering in the Epstein case. Okay. I did hear about it. So she was this female judge, and she was assigned to unravel all of this, right? Hundreds of millions of dollars worth

with banks, suspects, the whole black book, the whole deal. Yeah. Okay. Yesterday, this is sad. Yesterday, a gunman shows up at her house dressed like a, like a UPS or FedEx guy or whatever. Her husband and her kid open the door, gunman opens fire.

The husband is in critical condition. I think, I think the kid died, the son died. What the fuck? And Andy, okay, here's the other thing. Just great, wow. Okay, wait, see, now how's that? This is no thing conspiracy about that. That's right.

That's what happened. That's what I'm saying. So how crazy is that, right? And then here's the other part. Today, so as of the recording's podcast, the suspect who shot them was just found with the self-inflicted gunshot wound so they committed suicide. What?

Dude, this is getting crazy. That is crazy. There's nothing- Okay, that's not a conspiracy, bro. That's like shit. Well, what I mean by that, well, it's not being publicized as much like in the media. Like, they're not- Yeah, I didn't know that.

I didn't see no- I didn't see any news. Well, here's the conspiracy theory. Okay, the conspiracy theory is the reason why this happened is because she's investigating or she's part of the judge that's doing that thing. What do you mean, of course it is. How else could it, someone gets in a fed egg. Okay, that's like straight hit man.

It's latent. That's not like a late hit. I was gonna rob the house, wrong person, answer the door. So I shot him and that. That's like a send a message thing. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? That's what I think.

But here's the thing, federal, judges like this are involved in a lot of cases that could, you know, like she, I think, she was presided over a case that dealt with like this organized crimes, syndicate, and a bunch of other stuff. So technically these judges are, you know, they've always got to kind of be careful, but it is weird that she's involved in the Epstein thing

and then this happened, you know, four days after she got this, that this was the thing she was supposed to... That's so crazy. And so she's still presiding over this case. I don't know. Because that's, I mean, wouldn't you think, like you'd have more vested interest in presiding?

I mean, again, like what does that do in terms of like it becoming like grounds for it being like one of those, when they have to like retry? I don't know, dude, you know, you know, I read that that Gil St. Maxwell was obviously the Epstein's girlfriend or whatever, they were moving her from cell to cell to avoid assassins. Yeah, that's what the frickin' headline said.

I know, I saw the all the, I'm like, this is the real thing. The memes that are going around about that. I know. Yeah. You know? That they're admitting that there was an assassin. Well, it's like, yeah.

I get, and I get why people like tongue and cheek will keep like joking about us, but that's the serious shit. Like that's what everybody needs to be paying attention to and keep her, you know, alive so she can talk about like all these people involved. Oh, I look into her family by the way. I mean, I told you guys off air that if she gets killed, bro, and we don't fucking protest and make a big stink about it, I'm disappointed in our country.

Yeah, that's 100%. That is. You can protest about everything else under the sun. Like, like, let's save some kid lives. Yeah, that's insane. But you see her family, what her dad was involved in? No, I heard you guys some kid lives. Yeah, that's insane. But did you see her family? Well, her dad was involved in it. No, I heard you guys talking about it.

Oh, he was accused of it. I don't know, he was suckered into it. He's in the sod, I guess. Well, he was twisted media, it was a, it was a media mogul in the UK connected to all these different people, also accused of, you know, lots of other conspiracies, stuff like that's his daughter.

So, and some people are saying that she was the brains behind the whole thing and Epstein was just the money, you know, and stuff behind it. It's crazy. I mean, it's just baffling to me. It's like so blatant, it's in everybody's face. So, you know what this kind of reminds me of is in the 80s. So, you know, obviously my family's from Sicily, right?

And Sicily's had, you know, mafia comes from Sicily, organized crime or whatever. Well, it was really, it's, and it's still a big problem over there, but in the 80s, there was a judge that he's like, he went out of his way and he's like, I'm taking the Mafia down. I think his name was Judge Falconi. Maybe Doug can look it up.

So I don't get this, I get this right. So he was getting people and then he was getting them to talk and it was the first time in a long time that the Sicilian mafia actually felt threatened in Sicily and something had happened. I think there was some innocent kid that got killed or something and the public protested and they were like,

take these people down, which this is the first time that they really seen a big public outcry. So they were like, oh, oh, whatever, you know, they're gonna come after us. So this judge was under serious like government protection. They would switch several cars when he was driving. He'd have all these guards.

What's his name? Yep, Judge Falcom. So he was, he was, you know, super protected under arm guard. They were protecting him because obviously they knew that they would try to kill this judge, right? Did not they got to him? How? They blew up a bridge that his whole convoy

was driving over. Whole bridge. What? Blue it up and they ended up killing him. Oh my God. That's crazy. Yeah, that's a true story. That's a, it's in the 80s that happened.

Isn't that insane? That is crazy. Yeah, that's wild stuff. Wild stuff. Anyway. Well now you got my cackels all up again. I know. I know.

We have a good time. Spotify ad, I'm gonna talk to you about Spotify. Yes. I gotta admit on the podcast here for a second, you were totally right by the way. Oh, they're not. I know. Another timestamp right there.

I know, I know. I know. That's the second time. I know. Oh, God second time. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know.

You know what happened? So when Rogan went to Spotify, Spotify stock shot up. And it was all, it was expensive. And Adam's like, we need to buy Spotify. I'm like, I don't know, man, it's real expensive. It's kind of as peak. Yeah, let's just leave us forget it for a bit, whatever. No, it keeps shooting up.

So I'm reading about Spotify. So obviously streaming now has become the preferred way of listening to music. It's a $11 billion industry, making up 47% of global music industry revenues. And Spotify is the clear winner globally. In terms of paid subscribers. Wow. It's number one.

Yeah, the best they had the best platform. Yeah, they've dominated the global streaming music industry with about ready for this. 130 million premium subscribers worldwide. Wow. 130 times nine dollars. Yeah. That's massive. I wonder how much business they've taken from Apple. Paid business, they're crushing. Yeah.

Right? Because the other platforms have a lot of free stuff. Yeah. But they're the ones that are, they're winning this right now. Yeah, they're just taking over. This is good news for the podcast. Well, I mean, not only did I not watch. If we really, if we really believe, I think so.

I mean, Joe Rogan was the first, but I think we're gonna see more and more of this in the next three to five years where these platforms start acquiring famous people. You know, people like. Big shows and big, yeah. Cause right now, I mean, what's cool is that, I mean, to me, I love this. I think it's just so neat the time that we live in that.

How easy it is to get into this market. Everybody listening right now could go start their own YouTube channel, start their own very low barrier. Yeah, very, very low, very minimal cost to get up and running and doing that. And I think that's amazing and awesome. And if you actually have something that provides great value and you build an audience, you can build a nice livelihood for yourself. And then you even have the opportunity to build such a great livelihood that you get the attention of Spotify, Apple,

or YouTube and they go, listen, this person has got so much influence. We want to pay for them to exclusively be on our platform. I mean, that's what I think we're going to see in the future. Joe Rogan was the first and obvious. Once that pans out for Spotify, you're going to see it happen. Like right now it's kind of a gamble, right?

Yeah. Are we gonna get our, yeah right, we're gonna get a return. We're paying this guy millions of dollars. Like are we gonna see, you know, a spike in more subscribers? Are we gonna see more traffic coming through there? Like, and then once that pans out,

then it's just a mathematical game. Then you just go, okay, well Joe Rogan's this big and draws this much attention. Well, how big is this person and this person? And it takes the maverick business to pull those strings and then everybody else watches from afar, totally. And they're like, ooh, is this gonna work out for them

or not, and then it works out there. Oh, we gotta get in this. Yeah, well, I mean, the beauty of new media as the bandwidth is essentially unlimited, right? It's a huge bandwidth, whereas before, if you wanted to, you know, if you had some kind of, if you had an idea for a radio show

or a show of some sort, and you wanted to be in media, there were a few networks. There really wasn't much to pick from, and you had to do what they told you, and the cost, it to enter that kind of a market was so high, because equipment was expensive,

cameras and recording equipment, and then where do I put it? No one's gonna listen to it unless it's on a network. And so the barriers were just massive. Now the barriers are so, so low, and there's unlimited bandwidth, and here's the beauty of that. In the past, if you had a show

that got a million or two million listens every month, that still wasn't even close to big enough to get on one of the main networks. It just wasn't. Today, you have a show that's got a million, two million listens, you could go on whatever platform you want because anybody can. And that's enough to produce a seven figure business. Yeah, livelihood for yourself.

You could build a wonderful business off of that. That's the, and the other part that I love so much is it's so free. I mean, this is one of the reasons why we liked it so much. A lot of people, a lot of our listeners are, I don't know the original, like our origin story or whatever, but when we first started podcasting, we knew a lot of the stuff that we were gonna say about the fitness industry would never get us on a on a big fitness platform, because it was so counter

to the fitness space. Well, especially in the fitness space, when one of the number one sponsors for shows or anything would be supplements. And most of them are bogus. Yeah, and they're going to be like, there's no way they're going to let somebody like us come out there the whole time.

Talk shit about it. Yeah, they're not gonna be motivated. It would have never worked. But we were able to because we could say whatever we want and luckily we did it at the right time. This wouldn't existed 15 years ago. Now we have cool sponsors like Butcherbox and Ned that are best.

Yes, Marijuana. Have you guys gotten DMs? I got a DM from the guy I was talking about, his son who has really benefited from using Ned CBD And he's a bit on the spectrum, but he's high functioning, but he said it's been really been helping him out And I'm wondering if there's studies like that with there are there are really yeah, there's studies on cannabinoids and ADD the high functioning autism, other behavioral disorders.

And they think it's because of the way the cannabinoids affect that neurotransmitters in the brain. So, I'm going to get a little nerdy on this, but the... Ooh, I like it when you get nerdy. CBD and other cannabinoids, they act on the endocannabinoid system. And the endocannabinoid system is kind of like a, it's like a light dimmer switch. So what it does is it's like a regulator.

So imagine you walk into a room and the light is too bright or it's too dark, right? You can walk over and adjust the dimmer to make it just perfect. Well, this is kind of loosely how a lot of these cannabinoids work. So if some things are firing too hard, too strong, if you have an imbalance, or whatever, it almost acts like a balancer in the body.

And this is why it's got the anti-inflammatory effects that it has, or the enzialytic, the anti-. So here's a good example, right? So if you used like a really, really good hemp oil extract, right? Like we're talking about net. So it's really, really good. It's got a lot of good cannabinoids. Third party tested, no THC.

If you take that, it's this, it's this interesting paradigm where you, it relaxes you, but you don't get drowsy. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Pharmaceuticals that are enzialitic that you take to help with anxiety, they tend to make you drowsy. Like if you take Xanax,

you might not be a good idea to drive or to be at a meeting or something like that. Can Abinoids can relax people but also help them with focus. It can relax people but not make them sleepy. And it's not, it's because it's not like a big hammer. It's kind of like a, you know, a dimmer. I like that analogy to you.

Because this is also what explains why, you know, it's one of those things that everybody feels like, you know, the big joke is like, oh yeah, Merri want to help everything. But because that's so, that system is so abundant in your body. It can, there's a lot of things that, it can kind of dim up or down, right? Or change it a little bit. It's not gonna shut something down or block it or your body. It can. There's a lot of things that can kind of dim up or down, right? Or change it a little bit. It's not going to shut something down or block it or stop it,

but it can actually relieve a lot of different areas that you could be possibly potentially having problems with. Yeah, so like with inflammation, because I'll get a lot of messages from people who are like, hey, I'm using the hemp oil and I was using it for anxiety, but I also noticed my joints are less stiff. Like, how is it anti-inflammatory? It's not anti-inflammatory like ibuprofen or a leave where that literally shuts down the production of certain signals in the body that produce inflammation.

Like if you take a lot of adveil all the time, you'll definitely have less inflammation, but you also mess with the signaling system of inflammation, which is also important for things like muscle growth, tissue regeneration. This is why when people take lots of NSAIDs for joint issues, over time, the joint actually gets worse over time, because you need some inflammation.

So the way cannabinoids work with inflammation is it doesn't shut it off. It helps regulate it so that it doesn't shut it off. It helps regulate it so that it's at a healthier level. So it's not going to block it and cause those potential negatives. It's going to regulate it so it's a bit more of a healthy inflammatory response, which is a good thing because you can use it and not negatively impair, like, joint health over time or muscle growth and stuff like that, which inflammation is a big part of it.

You mentioned butcher box, dude. Heritage pork versus regular pork. I will never eat regular pork again. What? The taste. I am not a pork fan, but heritage pork tastes so much. Have you guys get the pork chops? I don't, you're the big one on that.

I'm more on the burger and steak side of the red meats that they offer, but yeah, I've tried it once. I liked it. You got to try it. I saw Doug eating them for lunch. What did you think, Doug? Yeah, they're great.

How are you making them? Just pan-frying, basically. Yeah, that's what Jessica does. She puts them in a cast iron and then see her's both sides and then puts them in the oven. And that's it. And she has this butter thing that she puts on it. But it's heritage pork, it's the flavor.

And they eat differently. They feed the pigs differently. I was gonna say, what is the difference? I remember you broke it down one time on the podcast, and I don't remember what the major difference was. It's the feed that they give them. I believe that has to do with the breed of pig, but the meat tastes so much, I don't know how to explain.

It's almost like it's sweeter and richer, so it's just a much better flavor. That's interesting, you know, because don't know how to explain, it's almost like it's sweeter and richer, so it's just a much better flavor. That's interesting to me because, you know, one of the things about grass-fed beef, the beef side is that it's not quite as flavorful because it's not as, the meat's not as fatty, right? So that's one thing I always remind people, like when you eat leaner.

Yeah, it's leaner. When you eat grass-fed, if you like, like a real marbly ribeye, and you've had that at some restaurant and then you try and compare that to grass fed steak, it's just, it's not going to compare because it's unbelievably way more fatty than the grass fed. So it's interesting that you say that the, the heritage pork has a better taste to it. You would think that it would have a similar type of effect where it would be less fatty than regular pork would be and so it would lose some of the flavor.

But maybe because pork is so fatty already. I think this is naturally. Yeah. There's naturally fatty. Yeah. You know, because there's a night, the pork chops have a nice layer of like delicious, you know, I'm a big fan of fat. Right.

Yeah. It tastes really good. Yeah. Hey, I found out why Google, why they're having issues with Google buying Fitbit. Did I take this already? Did I tell you guys? No, no, no. I told you, I brought up, I know that stock hasn't moved.

Well, I know it hasn't. I brought up, okay, last year they bought, and that was part of why I was excited for us to invest in. But they're being reviewed, right? Yes, and that's been under review for almost a year now. What is the deal? So, Google owns, so glad you found this. Google owns, let me see,

their parent company, Alphabet, owns two pharmaceutical companies, or they've launched two pharmaceutical companies within the last six years. So one is Calico, and the other one is, I can't, I don't know what the other, oh, Genentech, I think,

no, I know Calico is one of them, I don't know what the other one is, Genentech, I think, no, I know Calico's one of them, I don't know what the other one is, but they own some big pharma companies. So I think the fear is that they have all this data on you plus the watch, or the Fitbit, excuse me, that measures all of your heart rate and all kinds of basic data. So I get where you're going with this, but it's such a weird, weird, and what about Apple?

I mean, they have the whole health kit and everything else where they're collecting all your health data. Yeah, but it is Apple-on-farm company. Yeah, they don't have pharma companies. I'm sure they out in the wealth. Yeah, I don't know about that. So is that considered a conflict of interest or is it like the ability to monopolize something?

Is that what I don't understand what is the problem? I don't know, but my hunch is that it has to do with them then advertising pharmaceutical drugs to people based off of the measurements or targeting them would be my hunch. That would be my guess. But I think that's the issue. That's the reason why they're looking at them.

So I wonder what's that happened. I don't know. I mean, if that goes through, because isn't Europe leading? Aren't they the ones that are waiting? Yeah. I feel like the Fitbit stock then will take off. But right now, I mean, I feel good. I still feel good about the stock no matter what. I mean, it's at a low level. It's what I think it's one of the best fitness tools that are out there. Oh, yeah. Yeah. They nailed the whole community aspect of it. It's just like, they pay attention to the things that you really need to pay attention to. Speaking of stock, you know, that the Smith and Wesson stock

it keeps going up and so do other gun stocks. So I know we've been talking about how guns' sales have gone through the roof. I have some numbers. You want to hear a crazy, this is a huge issue. So they estimate that about 3 million more firearms were sold between March and June in the US than typical months. So the normal amount plus an additional 3 million. We are an armed nation. And the other, and the statistics show that about 40% of those sales are new gun owners, which is almost double

what it normally would be. And of those new gun owners, a big chunk of them are women. Speaking of gut, for you guys. Did you guys ever hear what happened to the, you know the couple in St. Louis that came out and they're, do you, do you know what happened to them? Yeah. What happened to them? I heard the, okay.

You tell me, because I don't know all the details So the I think it was the district attorney had their their their rifle seized Yeah, like they went in and investigated their house. Yeah, it took their gun. They're both they both husband and wife are lawyers They are okay, they are so they went in took their rifle their gun which without Do process that's a all sounds unconstitutional very yeah, that's a... All sounds unconstitutional. Very, yeah, that's a huge infringement. That's being lawyers, I would think they would never be able to get away with that. Well, they got their gun back

because I believe the governor... You're a good counter-suit for sure. Yeah, I think the governor stepped in and said, no, you can't do that. And I think they got their gun back. Oh, okay. So this may turn into a big, like, national legal battle to watch, to see.

That's where I'm curious. I'd heard some things that happened, but I wasn't sure of the story. yeah why would that even be under question you know what the whole story wasn't even told in the in the media the media made it look like people were in the street outside their house and hear those crazy people with guns that's not what happened the whole thing is their property so they have a massive property. Right, and then it's gated. Right, and supposedly they were,

the, all the picketers were on their way, or on their way to the governor's house, right? Is that what they were doing? Or the mayor? Is that what it was? But so here's what happened. So their whole property has a big gate around it, big metal gate.

The protesters broke through the gate. So then they were on their property when they were doing that. it, big metal gate, the protesters broke through the gate. So then they were on their property when they were doing that. And he apparently heard them saying some pretty scary stuff. And that's when they came out with their guns or whatever. Now here's the other thing I'd like to say. They need to practice, like, you know, trigger safety. I mean, the wife was walking out there

and on the trigger the whole time, like, oh man, that goes off. Yeah, right. This is gonna be a bad thing. But the people broke into their property to begin with. They were not in the street at off their property the whole time. So the media didn't cover that part. And what did St. Louis laws like that with someone coming on your property?

Once they're on there. I mean, they still, they still have to commit some sort of violence towards them. Like, as a state by state, it's different, right? Yeah, I don't, I think they're okay because they didn't shoot anybody. They just had their guns. Yeah. And it was on their property. Yeah. So I was holding their ground.

Yeah, I don't think they, I know, but what's interesting to me or what's, I would, what happens? Or what can they, at what point can they defend themselves? Like, is it after somebody, you know, someone like someone, let's say they had bats or they had something and they were coming towards them. Do they, do they have the ability to or do they have to wait till they get struck by a bat before they have to have guns for them to then. Right. It depends on the state. I don't, I don't know what

the law. I don't in California. And if somebody's in your home, unless your life is being threatened, you can't shoot them. Yeah, I know that there's been like situations where someone's broken to someone's home, and they sued them. Yeah, forgetting shot or whatever. It's completely absurd. And then in other states, if they just that one foot on your property, you could blast them, and then, yeah, that's why I wanted what St. Louis is.

Yeah, I don't know. I definitely fall on the side of, if you, because I have kids, and if I see somebody in my house, it's a real threat. You know, and I'm not saying I'm gonna shoot first, but if it looks bad, I'm gonna shoot you in your fucking kneecap for sure.

Maybe, right? I'll take the risk of going to jail over that then my kid's being fucking good. Well, you don't know, right? Yeah, well, that's what I'm saying. It's going to break into my house. Okay, I'm going to shoot you in the kneecap, you know, I may not shoot to kill because I'm not sure what's from saying, it's going to break into my house. Okay, I'm going to shoot you in the kneecap, you know, I may not shoot to kill because I'm not sure what's going on,

but you have no business being in my house without fucking knocking, and we live in a text fucking world, you could text me before you come in my house. You know what I'm saying? If I didn't get a text and you're in my house, that's you can shut the kneecap. Well, if I, I mean, if people are outside or in my home on my property and they look violent and they're protesters and they're yelling crazy, I would have been out there too.

You know what I mean? I'm like okay, I'm sure I would have been scared for my life. You see all these people out there, what are you going to do? So I'm more on that side. This quaz brought to you by Organify. For those days you fall short on getting your organic veggies or whole food nutrition, Organify. dot com and use a coupon code mine pump for 20% off at checkout. First question is from Grant Satter's Thwait. What are some of your favorite landmine attachment exercises?

Oh, the landmine. That's a great piece of home gym equipment, isn't it? So for the listeners don't know, the landmine, you typically will anchor it on some weight plates and then it's something you can put a barbell in, and then it moves in any direction. So one end of the barbell is anchored at the bottom and the other parts coming in.

And they have attachments to for squat racks now, which are pretty convenient, where you can just put it at the bottom part of the squat rack. But I mean, there's some great exercises you can do, especially with rotational work. I mean, there's not a whole lot of options for rotational exercises in general. And I feel like this is one of those that provides, you know, a great option for that. But one of my favorites actually is, you know, when there's somebody with limited range of motion with their shoulder

to get in a kneeling press, because you're pushing it almost on track where it's a bit in front of you so you don't really need, you know, to be able to stabilize completely up over your head. So I mean, that's a good option to at least, you know, start building strength in the right direction. And that's something I like to do with it. Didn't you and Danny both do a whole series on our YouTube channel? I didn't, but no, no, no, Justin and Danny. Yeah, I did.

I did a few of them all. Yeah, yeah, some rotational exercises. And Danny did a whole series also. So if you haven't been, and we get stuff like this all the time, and people, when you drop questions, like one of the first things you should do is go, well, to two things. One, use the Mindput Media app,

where you can search a topic. So if you want to hear us talk about a topic, there's a good chance we've talked about it already. And then if you want to watch or see something related, especially when it's exercise related, there's a good chance that we've already done a video or multiple videos on it on MindPump TV on YouTube channels.

So, and I remember Danny did a whole series and I thought you had done some also. And then Matt's performance has, Matt, I tell you the reverse lunge to the presses. Oh yeah. Those are brutal. I get messages about that all the time still and that was one of my favorites just to get like a full body experience.

You're going to get all of it there. Well it's such a great movement though. I mean, that's what's, it was one of the exercises that I really appreciated in performance after going through it, going like, man, those are challenging to perform them with really good form. I mean, not only are they exhausting to do, but you're doing a unilateral exercise

so the stability portion of that with the shoulder press that for sure one of my favorite moves in that program. I'll say this, if you have a home gym aside from barbell dumbbells, adjustable bench, and a rack, the next most important piece of equipment you can get is a landmine. Number one, because it's very inexpensive. Number two, it takes up almost no space. And number three, the variety of exercises that you could do with a landmine are tremendous. You could do so many exercises. Now, one of my favorites, besides the rotational,

I like the rotational movements because you can't really do those any other way. Maybe cables allow you to do that, but with free weights, it's kind of tough. But I like good old-fashioned rowing exercises with a landmine. I love T-Bar rows, one arm rows. I like single-leg deadlift is awesome on that.

Single-leg deadlift or a rear rear delt row on a landmine I mean, it's it's a phenomenal hypertrophy bodybuilding tools with not just like an athletic tool It's also great for just pure hypertrophy muscle building. Yeah, I don't know what they call it But it's like a transfer press where you're basically lined up sideways and you row and then you grab with the other arm and press as you rotate with it. So it's just very like high functional, you know, athletic type movements are great. Next question is from jazz fitness. Can you discuss when supersets are appropriate and when they are not? Some people suggest they are only suitable for antagonist muscles.

What is your approach to programming? Okay, so first, I'd like to start with the easy part, which is who supersets are not for. Who's supposed, people who are overly stressed, whose bodies are very, very sensitive to lots of intensity, maybe people who already train a lot with a lot of circuits, that style of training, a superset, probably not gonna be good for you. In fact, you need to transition away from

doing exercises without rest in between sets. You wanna do maybe more standard strength training. So like if I took a client who is doing lots of hit training, lots of circuit training, lots of circuit training, overly stressed, under-eating, that person would not be the person I would do supersets to. Now as far as who they're appropriate for, supersets are great when they're programmed properly. And it's usually when you're transitioning from a traditional strength training, you know, straight set type routine, then you go into the

super set type stuff and super sets are phenomenal for the pump. They really maximize the pump in ways that other, you know, combos of exercises don't seem to do. They were favorites. It's a favorite tool of bodybuilders. I know in the 70s, bodybuilders did lots of supersets leading up to competition because it would enhance the pump, be able to have more stamina when they're posing on stage. And there's a million and one different ways to apply to.

Well, this is as far as asking us about our programming on it. I mean, if you have our programs, we introduce that in no maps aesthetic. Phase three. that's the first time that we introduce it, right? So, no, no, it's an animal. It's an animal, like two. What part is it an animal? Phase three. Oh, phase three, it isn't, that's right, you're right, there isn't, so, I mean, that's just it,

it should follow that process, right? We do straight sets, you know, and you're doing heavy, heavy five, six repetitions in the first phase, then you go to the second phase where we're moving to more like 10 to 12 reps. And then when you start getting into the, you know, 15, 20 reps, like this is where super sets make sense because you're chasing, you're chasing more volume, you're chasing more reps.

It makes that you're shortening rest periods a lot of time. So this is make, this is where it makes sense to be programmed. But no matter what, if you, if you do this, it's ideal just like anything else to be programmed. But no matter what, if you do this, it's ideal just like anything else to be kind of sticking with it for about four, six weeks tops, and then you want to move out of it. It's a great tool that just like many other things we talk about on this show, but where the people that shouldn't be doing are the ones that tend to gravitate towards it. I remember getting clients that the abusers. Yeah, that's how they trained. It was like a circuit law. Yeah, always back to back trained. It was like a circuit all within it.

Yeah, always back to back to back to back or even like tri-setting where they're going three extras like little mini circuits the whole entire work. It's funny you bring that up because I really didn't even do super sets until, I mean, we did some things like 21s and what not where it's like, you know, you're doing kind of like

exercises back to back to back, but I never really did the programming of it until I actually started working out at 24Fitness and then Adam was my manager at the time and was starting to take me from, you know, this is, now do this one real quick and it just fucking blew me up. Like my, I remember especially on the chest exercise because I felt like I like mastered everything

in terms of like bench pressing and then going from from a bench press and then doing a fly or multiple pushups right after that was just so exhaustive, so new. Like, we just get to a point where I couldn't even move. Like my arms were so stiff and my chest was so stiff. And it just had great benefit, but it's really because I didn't do that at all.

I didn't do that. That was something that was a new stimulus. And so it definitely, it serves your body and you can adapt to it, but then you need to move on. Yeah, so when you do supersets for antagonistic muscle groups, meaning like chest and back or biceps and triceps, the value of that, especially for the large muscle groups, is it tends to help with form and function.

So if I did like a good row and then went to a bench press, you say function. Function. Yeah, yeah. That was a free and slip. It helps you with your posture, helps you connect to the back muscles as you're pressing, you know, that type of deal.

For the same muscle group, so like if you're doing like one chest exercise to another chest exercise or one back exercise to another back exercise, I like to combine a compound with a single joint movement. So compound and isolation, and you can do one before the other or flip them. So there's different benefits to both. Either pre-exhaust the muscle with an isolation movement, move into a compound, or do the flip, do the heavy compound movement, then move to the isolation to really squeeze more blood in the muscle. Those are really my three favorite ways to to use supersets.

Next question is from fat husband. Great handle. I like this guy. He's a good guy. What's one thing from the 90s area era fitness that you wish was still around today and why is it ultimate orange? fitness that you wish was still around today and why is it ultimate orange? For people who don't know, ultimate orange is the first real pre-workout supplement. They really were the first supplement that kind of introduced something into that class or market. And what ultimate orange was was caffeine, a fedra, and aspirin. It was the old ECA stack. Now I-

Did you still get a hold of that somewhere? I like to- You can get a fedra, but you have to get it. I mean, ultimate orange itself. Can you still get it? Not the real one. No. I wonder if we could call Rich up and get like a little hook up.

Yeah, a little underground. Ultimate orange. I mean, come on, he's got to have like, fucking jugs of it somewhere later on. Well, so here's a deal, like a Fedra is illegal now to be sold unless it's sold as a Bronco Dialator. So you can still get a Fedra,

but you get it combined with a Kweif in his in or something like that. It's a compound for your lungs because it is a Bronco Dialator. So you can still get it. I used to love this stuff back in the day. I think I abused it to be quite honest. This was back and I would take love this stuff back in the day. I think I abused it. To be quite honest, this was back, and I would take a rip fuel and rip force and speed stacks

and a Fedra caffeine and aspirin, they make you feel like you're on drugs. You are. You are. That's why it's weird how it feels. You're fast, you're talking fast. So what are you bringing back? What are you bringing back from the 90s?

Oh, you know what? Okay, so let's start with the exercise. I know I want to bring back. Oh, you first. Yeah, I want to bring back MC Hammer pants. Yeah. I love those pants. I love those pants.

To work out in. All around. I want to wear them too. I had some of those. It's like shoe baths, right? Yeah, and it had like these fish bones on it. They were vividly. I had to pair that like they velcroed in.

You know what I'm saying? Like you opened them up like this to get in and out of them. Yeah. And then when you close them you just velcroed it in. Yeah. Yeah dude. Looks like it took a crap. Hell of a legit.

Yeah, super easy to get in and out. To legit to quit. Yeah bring back the MC hammer pants. I, um, you know okay, so I'll talk exercises. There, so this is funny. I've been doing this for so long. I see exercises fall into favor and out of favor. You know it was really in favor in the 90s,

at least for the bodybuilding community, behind the neck exercises. Behind the neck pull downs was a big deal, and behind the neck shoulder presses was a big deal. And they fell out of favor, and that's too bad, because I think that they have real value. And of course, you gotta have good.

Pull ups too. Yeah, all that stuff. I mean, shit, in the 80s and 90s, you know, you had Rocky doing, you know, behind the neck, remember that scene from Rocky Ford? Yeah. You know I showed Jessica for the first time? That whole scene.

The whole montage, her eyes working out in the cabin. Dude, we were driving home and to sit up, and she plays I of the tiger, right? And I'm like, oh, it's weird how this always gives me the chills when I listen to it. And I'm like, wait a minute, I'm like, have you heard the soundtrack to Rocky IV that the montage of his training? And so then we listened to that, and then she didn't like get it.

You know? So I'm like, okay, you need to watch the clip. So I got home and I still didn't get it. You know? So I'm like, okay, you need to watch the clip. So I got home and I still didn't get it. You know what I wanna bring that is everybody that thought they knew karate. Yeah. Everybody in the 90s thought they knew karate. And they like, I'm like,

I think you just, it's because the karate kid, dude, that's what it did. Yeah, it's co-brocade and everybody else, like now everybody's like, dude, totally dude, jujitsu. I have a serious one for you for exercise. How about barefoot squatting? That was a big, was that in the 90s though?

Yeah, it was 90s. Well, I don't remember seeing anybody barefoot in the 90s. Was it 80s? That's like 70s, bro. That's like Arnold did that. Oh, then maybe 80s? Yeah, maybe a little bit of 80s. Okay, so that's something that hasn't been,

I mean, it's barely, it's like popular like with the functional community, but not the general population. I got one for you, Atomix shoes to work out in. Remember the bodybuilder? Oh, dude, lick them up, Doug. You'll recognize them right away. Oh, yeah, I don't write it.

They're like the white, like kind of high tops, all the bodybuilders wore them in the 90s. And I've 100% if you see them, you're gonna read it. I felt like I saw a lot more singlets back then. And they would lift weights and sing. Right? Like with like AC Slater. Yeah, I am not gonna want to be AC Slater. Lifting weights and something that's that tight on my stuff.

Yeah, right? You're just, ooh. Yeah, I can't just point out. Yeah. Exactly. So now you see that. But behind the neck exercises that I was talking about, they do require good shoulder stability, good mobility.

You have to have a certain level of function out. Do you require good shoulder stability, good mobility? You have to have a certain level of function. Do you see them? But if you have those things, those movements have some real value. I still to this day do behind the neck presses at least once a week. I love the way they make my shoulders feel. Well, I think it's one of those things that,

I remember I had to spend, I don't know, maybe a year of working on that. I was doing just the bar for a long time because I didn't have the mobility. So I think that, I think it's, you know, we talk about like the skill of squatting, right? Like just because you can't do it very well, does it mean that you should just avoid it?

You should work towards being able to do it. I feel the same way about behind the neck exercises. There's a lot of people, in fact, a majority of people listening right now can probably not perform a behind the neck shoulder press. Not safely. Yeah, not safely. So that doesn't mean because you can't do that, that you just say, oh, I can never do

this. It's like, okay, that should be a good goal. And we always talk about how do you stay motivated to train an exercise? This is another example of that. You can get really boring, always chasing building muscle, birding body fat, building muscle, birding body fat, looking at certain way all the time. This is how I would take clients on like, hey, our goal for the next two, three months is to work on you being able to perform this exercise.

This is really good for shoulder health. You can't do it right now. So our main focus is going to be that. And then you start programming all these mobility drills. And the way you test that is the behind the neck press. And the goal is to be going to be that and then you start programming all these mobility drills and and you and the way You test that is the behind the neck press and the goals to be able to do that And then when you get to see yourself be able to do it and then actually progress with load It's a really cool accomplishment and what it does for the body is incredible Absolutely. I dugs having trouble with the internet again, but I'm gonna pull up

I'm gonna pull these shoes up for you Adam. You need gonna get this in the battle. You need to see, I know, I want to see if I've seen them. Oh, 100% you'll remember these, these were. I kind of feel like I see it. Do you remember the guy, oh yeah. Yeah, and they would wear them with the big pants. Those are back in style. They never left. Okay, yeah, because look at some serious

that we've got a company called Ryder Shoes. Our, our Y-D-E-R is a company that, that's all they do, is make those. It's the make those kind of shoes. Yeah, look at Rider weightlifting shoes. Oh yeah, they copy the... Did you pull them up? Yeah, I did.

Yeah, exactly. The Atomic shoes, that was what Bodybuilders wore in the 90s, 100%. And they would be different colors. They're super popular in the Instagram, Men's Fizzik, in Bodybuilding World, like that they sponsor all of my peers. Yeah, I don't get that, like special weight, like choose to work out or whatever. I don't mean.

Unless you're like a Olympic lifter. Yeah. Otherwise, it's something in process where your chucks. Next question is from junior G Fit. With schools getting ready to go back, how do each of you feel about sending your kids back to school? Will you or won't you? Also, how do each of you feel about sending your kids back to school? Will you or won't you? Also, how do you handle the situation if you and your spouse have very different

feelings and opinions about it? Wow. Imagine being married. Imagine being married to somebody who like totally has a different view. I didn't even think about that. Like I have different views and might some friends, which that it presents its own challenges. You know, like we were all sitting around, like we have very different This was this weekend. We're all together and and one of the three friends is like super hardcore left Mm-hmm, and you know it presents itself with challenges with conversations now We all tease each other and have fun. You guys are adults about it right right and have fun about it

But I mean if I lived in the same house as him all the time and like every issue was like that, that would be really challenging to do that. I can't do you guys have any friends that have spouses that are completely like polar opposite views on things like that? Yeah, sometimes I think it's that's going to happen with something at some point. You're not going to have the same view as your spouse. That's why you have to learn how to compromise. That's like the big thing about being married actually is learning how to do that because you're going to feel very strongly about something. She's going to feel very strongly. As far as the school

thing is concerned, like these are the latest statistics or the latest numbers. Okay. Here we are in California, right? California has got the second highest amount of confirmed coronavirus cases right now in the country. And they're growing. No, Florida is not number one, but they're growing very rapidly. New York was number one, but California is probably going to catch up here pretty soon. We still, as of the recording this podcast, not one child has died from COVID. The statistically speaking, the death rate from COVID for kids is so small it's hard to calculate.

You're speaking as California just. I'm talking about the whole world. It's so- We haven't had a single kid die? No, in California we have- That's why I just have to. Yeah, sorry. I thought you meant the statistic. Okay, yeah. No, kids have died from it, but it's such a small percentage. The flu for kids is much riskier than COVID. It's not saying that there aren't kids that are going to suffer from it. the small percentage, the flu for kids is much riskier than COVID. It's not saying that there aren't kids that are gonna suffer from it, somebody's listening and they know somebody

that really, really sucks, but the risk is super low. So, but now what they say is it's not about the kids, it's about the kids getting it, and then bringing it home to grandma, in which case I say, yeah, you should definitely be careful around people who are a higher risk.

The other part that I think we need to look at is we're not considering all the other health effects of some of these policies. Okay, fine, you're worried about coronavirus, so no kids go to school. These are developmental years, they're not being around friends, they're not leaving the house. Formative years. They're locked in the, like that's not healthy for a kid. And considering the low death rate of coronavirus, and I think you're, it's more risky to force your kids

to stay at home than it is to send them to school. That's my personal opinion. I'm not an infectious disease expert, but that's my personal opinion. Here in California, I mean, it just came out, right? So California is no, no go this year at all. No. Well, not this year.

The fall or what it is. The fall, yeah. The start of the year. Yeah. They started the first few months. They don't, yeah. What we got so far, which who knows, I'm sure they'll lock it down the rest of the, you know, after that.

But yeah, I'm kind of with you, so I'm just like, I'm really sad for the kids that they have to now take on all these fears and everybody else's like hysteria, you know, during their most formative years of where they're supposed to be, you know, just focusing on what they need to focus on, which is getting educated, you know, having community, hanging out with their friends.

And so it's frustrating for me. Being like, I wasn't considering staying at home and like doing, you know, at home education, but now it definitely is something that makes sense. And so- You mean like pulling them out of the school? Pulling them out of school. Like what, what is the point of putting them

in a situation where everybody is so hysterical about the way that they're handling objects, they're rubbing everything down with sanitizer and we didn't get any of this from the flu. Like this is just something, if you are sick, you stayed home and that was it. And so I don't understand this. This doesn't, to me, this doesn't resonate with the way that I think about our body's immune system and being able to then overcome like these potential diseases that come our way.

So it has honestly, I can't understand it. Obviously, this is their reaction to trying to slow something that's spreading. But for me, to me, I think it makes more sense to keep them home, like keeping in a safe environment, bring people in that can educate them to help. So we're looking at those options right now.

Well, not to mention that, Sal talks about the unintended consequences. What about the, you know, play is a big part of school too. How many, and you got now, you guys are fitness people with parents, so you guys are probably trying to insert, you know, activities and things to keep your kids active, but how many people in America are doing that right now?

How many people are making sure that if your kid was playing at recess for 45 minutes to an hour every single day, plus whatever breaks they have and what it looks like for them, and sports that they might have been playing. Right. Now they're not doing any of that anymore. Are you making sure as a parent to do that? And what role does that play in there?

It's more than that. It's more than that. It's not just the activity. It's the activity with other kids. Right, right, interact. Yeah, that's a huge part of the child development. That's a good point because that was something that remember we were talking, I don't know if we shared this

on air or not, but we were having this discussion about raising our kids in this time with tech, right? And I was, you know, Sal and Justin were talking about how challenging like it is to feel like you're constantly telling your kid, no, you can't have that. You don't want to be a tyrant about it. And I was like, come on, dude,

is it really that big of a deal? Like I remember playing video games with my friends all day long some days. And, you know, they're on vacation with us. Why don't you let that? And he goes, listen, if I, and this was Sal's response to me, is that if my son was playing with two or three of his friends,

I wouldn't have a problem with it, but it's not, he's by himself staring at a screen all day long. He's not truly interacting socially with his friends, and they're all playing together. He's just staring at a TV screen with some headphones on and I was like, okay. It's not a real interaction that fulfills that you know, that sort of need that they have to connect with another human being.

You know, like these virtual things are not fulfilling that need. We all have as human beings. And so we have to just kind of like fend for ourselves. That's where I feel like we're at right now because, you know, government is not gonna provide that for us. That's fine. No, the medical community, the child health experts

are saying open the schools up. They're saying the risk of death with kids or serious complications from coronavirus for children is super, super low. The dangers of them not going to school are higher because again, these are crucial developmental years. Look, above all else, humans are extremely social. This is what makes one of the things that makes humans unique is we're extremely social animals. We have very complex

societies. It is, it's actually deemed torture to isolate somebody if you capture them in war. It's against the Geneva Convention. Here's what we're doing with kids. Don't go to school, stay at home all day long. Holy shit, okay, yeah, okay, maybe we lower the risk of spreading a disease a little bit, but what are the other sides of that consequence? Well, here, let me throw the other consequences. Let me throw the other side to this, right? So this was a discussion this weekend,

and I told you my friends on the other side far left. He's also a principal to a high school. So he goes, the fear is not the kids. The teachers. Exactly. He says the fear is not the kids. The teachers. Exactly. He says the fear is that the schools, first of all, are not structured in a way to like manage this. He goes, not manageable.

He goes, the amount of kids that are coming in and out of these classrooms, the things they're touching and grabbing and sharing amongst each other is, he goes, just managing keeping all that stuff clean and not them spreading it to the teachers. And then also even having to manage the teachers. He goes, you know, I already see what I'm gonna have to do and he goes, I'm gonna have to be the asshole who comes in the teacher break room and the four teachers are sitting around having coffee

together and I'm gonna have to go, what the fuck are you guys doing? Yeah, they're never gonna be able to manage it. And so he's like, any of these diseases. He's like, it's not about the kids dying from this. It's that them being carriers to the, then teachers who then the teachers go off and carry it to other people.

He goes, that is the greatest challenge that I'm gonna have to deal with. I know my whole job is going to change from being an educator to being this guy who is constantly monitoring health safety. Well, it's right for disruption. Yeah, it is. And look, I know.

That's what I think too. I heard that, but look, in places where schools have been reopened, there is no evidence that it spreads the virus more. So that's not true. He told me that they're tracing back, oh, God, I wish what country it was. And they're saying that the main reason why they're outbrecht, they're tracing it back was because they opened up schools again. I wish I remember what country it was so I could point it better. Well, better. I know I know I think it was Sweden. It's not it's not Sweden. Well

Sweden it did it wouldn't wasn't fully open and you compare it to other countries and it's kind of the same. Maybe Doug and Google I don't know how you're looking for country opened up blames. Okay but here's my argument. Okay my argument is not that it's not going to spread more coronavirus. My argument is what are the unintended consequences and are those gonna be worse? Well, you know me, I know, you know I agree with you, but I'm doing right now, there's about 45% people right now that are listening to this conversation that are going, bribbibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibib for you. Yeah, it's good. This is what this is because this is my my best friend who is a vice or a

principal of a school. He's on that side of it where he's like it's gonna be it's gonna be a nightmare. If we open schools up, you're gonna see this thing go live under a rock. You know, the rest of your life or deal with the fact that you're there's people that have gotten sick and gotten better. No, do we forget about that? We really forgot about that. Now we need everybody's protection for every step of every fucking thing that we do from here on out, fuck you. Yeah.

Oh God, I'm done. Justin just gave me a direction. I love it when you get angry. No, I agree. I think these measures are being managed or should I say led by one class of expert, which is the infectious disease expert, and they should definitely be in that conversation.

But they are not including psychologists in that. They're not including economists in that. They're not including everybody. Let's look at the whole picture. No, I love that. That's a great point right there. Because that's what ends up happening is that this turns into just what's a healthier thing

and there's no debate there. Would it be more infections? Because here's the thing. I will agree to this. It would, for health reasons, the safest thing we could all do is go lock ourselves in our rooms for the next fucking two years. From the infections, right. And no one can argue that. Now, that is a fact.

These, but let's think about how, and I like to take that extreme to get people, that's how you should teach fitness, right, with those extreme analogies. I tell people like that came in, they say, Adam, I want to lose 30 pounds as fast as I can. I say, okay, if you want to lose 30 pounds as fast as you can, stop eating, come in here every day and see me, we're going gonna run on the treadmill for an hour. Now, you laugh and you think that's ridiculous, but that's the extreme to get them to understand this is not the way.

This is not the best way for us to do it. There's other factors we have to think about. The same thing goes for this argument is, yeah, no shit, wearing mask all the time, shutting schools down, all of us isolating would be the safest thing for this country, no shit. But we're not thinking about all the time, shutting schools down, all of us isolating, would be the safest thing for this country. No shit. But we're not thinking about all the other things.

We're not talking about the suicide rates going through the roof, depression going through the roof, domestic violence going through the roof. What's going on with our kids that are not gonna be socialized for an entire year? There are other factors that you have to take into consideration that we're just not. They're not, and look, okay, I'll give you another example.

Okay, we're in the fitness space, so I'll go with this one. So every year, at least 2.8 to 3 million people die every year from obesity. Okay, that's a fact, every single year. Now, from an obesity standpoint, would we save lives if we all of a sudden restricted everybody's food, everybody was on rations, we eliminated all unhealthy foods and everybody was required by law to exercise.

If you don't exercise, you get fine to throw in a jail. Will we reduce the death civil obesity? Yes, we will. Dermatically. Is that gonna be a good thing for our health? No, it won't. Health is a sphere. It's not just how many infections we get.

It's also the psychology, your psychological state has to do with your also the psychological state has to do with your health. Your family has to do with your health. The relationships you have, how you learn to socialize with people, how you communicate with people, how you develop, how you handle money is a part of your health. And they're not considering any of that. All they're looking at is a scary shit, which is the infections, and they're not considering anything else. My point is this, you take, you tell kids they can't go to school, will you lower infection

rate? Probably. Will you cause other consequences that may be worse than that? Also, probably. I, I, I think so, and nobody's considering that. So that's just, you know, and that's from a, a personal trainer fitness podcast host standpoint. So take it, take it for what it's worth. Look, MindPump records on video as well as audio.

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