Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1344: Training for Your Body Type, Regular Vs. Diet Sodas, How to Help Friends & Family Members Turn Around Their Health & Fitness & More

Episode Date: July 25, 2020

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about how body type affects how to work out, if you are better off with the natural sugar and calories in the regular soft drink or the artificial sweeteners in a diet one, how to approach a friend or family member when you can clearly see their health declining or weight getting out of hand, and lessons they have had to learn twice. Nurse slang is a real thing. (4:17) Sal’s post-workout concoction. (8:15) Mind Pump Debates: Amazon under investigation for unfair business practices. At what point does a company become more powerful than the government? (12:28) Baby monitors and clingy parents. (31:12) How red-light therapy reduces and prevents the appearance of stretch marks. (38:05) #Quah question #1 – How does body type affect your way of working out? Should a person consider a specific amount of weight or training methods if they have a mesomorph, endomorph, and ectomorph body type? (41:22) #Quah question #2 – I don’t drink alcohol, but my thing is Dr. Pepper. If I have 3-5 cans on the weekend, am I better off with the natural sugar and calories in the regular one or the diet one with artificial sweeteners? (48:04) #Quah question #3 – How would you or even would you approach a friend or family member when you can clearly see their health declining or weight getting out of hand? If they are emendable to help, where would you start? (56:14) #Quah question #4 – Are there any lessons you have had to learn twice? (1:02:30) Related Links/Products Mentioned July Promotion: MAPS Strong ½ off!! **Promo code “STRONG50” at checkout** Visit Organifi for the exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code “mindpump” at checkout** Amazon under investigation in 2 US states for unfair treatment of 3rd-party sellers – reports EU opens Amazon antitrust investigation Coupang, a SoftBank-backed start-up, is crushing Amazon to become South Korea’s biggest online retailer Watch: Baby Monitor Films Ghost Lurking Near Child's Crib? Visit Joovv for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Improve the Health of Your Skin with Red and Near Infrared Light Therapy How Bad Are Artificial Sweeteners? - Mind Pump Blog Should You Cut Artificial Sweeteners Out Of Your Diet? - Mind Pump Blog Tips for Overcoming Sugar Addiction – Mind Pump Podcast Mind Pump Podcast - YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Jessica Di Stefano (@thetraininghour)  Instagram

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Saldas Defano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this episode of Mind Pump, the world's top fitness health and entertainment podcast, we answer fitness and health questions asked by listeners and viewers just like you. But the way we open the episode was that they'd introduce proportions where we talk about studies, current events. We talk about our lives, we mention our sponsors.

That portion of today's episode lasted about 40 minutes. Then the rest was answering the fitness questions. Let me give you a rundown of this whole podcast, okay? We start out by talking about nurse slang. Justin's wife was a nurse for years and she informed them all to slang that they're secretly mean, so yeah code brown I Talk about my post workout meal actually the guys made fun of me for my post workout meal concoction Yeah, which included a lot of stuff but among them was Organifies

Plant protein and Organifies green juice. I love those supplements. The protein is high quality, dairy-free, it's vegan, great amino acid profile. Their green juice has greens that are already freeze-dried, broken down for easy absorption. I love those for post-workout shakes. Because we work with Organifi, and because you're a mind-pump listener,

you actually get a discount. Go to Organify.com that's O-R-G-A-N-I-F-I.com forward slash Mind Pump. Use the code Mind Pump, you'll get 20% off all their products. Then we talked about Amazon being investigated. It had a great debate in discussion. Ooh, got a little hot on the podcast about Amazon and what they were doing the future and what they're doing now. Is it an ethical, is it ethical, and great discussion, great debate, you'll love that part.

Then I talked about a ghost that woke up a baby with a monitor, oh, that's kind of crazy. Then I talked about how my wife, who is now entering into her third trimester, is using the Juve Red Light to help prevent the development of stretch marks. Now, Red Light Therapy is really one of the only ways you can actually reduce the development of stretch marks. Now, red light therapy is really one of the only ways you can actually reduce the appearance of stretch marks, clinically proven.

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By the way, you can finance their products for 0% APRx free money. Go do it. Make your skin look better. Then we got into the fitness questions. Here's the first one. How does your body type affect your way of working out? The next question, this person drinks Dr. Peppers on the weekend. Are they better off going with diet or regular?

The third question, how would we approach a family member who's health is bad? How do we get them to start working out and eating right? And the last question, this person wants to know, if there's any lessons that Adam, Justin, and myself have had to learn more than once, it's funny because I think all the lessons we've had to learn more than once.

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Oh, yeah. Yeah, like this is like slaying, like nurses have all this slang for a certain instance because I think it was we were talking about like when the kids were young and then there was this like huge explosion of poop and then had to clean and she said, this code brown and.

Did they announce it like real thing? Do they do it through the intercom? Like we need help in room 45, code brown. I think they do amongst each other. They have like names for all these different types of patients and all these different types of scenarios and things pretty funny. I was like looking at it and I wanted to read a few of them

just because they're interesting. One of them was called a chocolate hostage. What? You guys guess what that is? I think I know a little disease. So to do a poop, but of course, chocolate hostage, another term for constipation or having difficulty passing stool.

Oh, so I get this because I remember this with... Chocolate hostage. I had a family member who was in the hospital and they wouldn't let them leave until they farted or pooped. Yeah, this is a true thing. Yeah, because they got to pass, you know, get this out. Yeah, so they're hostage. They're hostage.

Yeah, I love this. It is a yellow submarine. It's a little bit mean actually. This is an obese patient with jaundice. Oh, wow. They have a PETA, which literally stands for pain in the ass. Slashers and cutters, and they're referring to actually surgeons as they they call them slashher and cutters, and they're referring to actually surgeons

as they'd they call them slasher and cutters. I thought it was kind of funny. Happy juice, this is the cocktail of narcotics. And then you got status dramaticus. And this is patients who demonstrate their symptoms more dramatically in hopes of getting quicker medical attention. Yeah. I need more of Vic and need it.

Then you got the bungee jumper, which is it's code for a patient who keeps on pulling his catheter tube. Oh, bungee jump. And then let's see, my favorite one, this will be the last one, is finger painting. And this is, this is when a demented patient soils themselves in place with it. Wow. Yeah. So, so you have to, I mean, This is when a demented patient soils themselves and plays with it

Wow, yeah, so so you have to I mean now would not okay Did you play this game with Courtney where you quiz her on a listen she could answer all of them? Oh, yes She has way more to add to this too. This was just like a few of them that I found like yeah I was trying to remember because she went through a list of all these things like they have terms for for like everybody It's hilarious dude. So slaying only develops when things happen enough times where you develop language around it. Sure. That's just crazy because that means that that happens a lot.

Yeah, and it's like known amongst all of them. They could just like throw these terms out and they're like, oh, okay. I know what I'm in for. You guys ever have a code brown yourself? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah, dude.

I was walking at a car show one time and I had eaten something obviously volatile and was walking around. And it was one of those where it just like hits like immediately where you just have to pinch hard and run and I didn't make it. And I had to throw my underwear away. Did you really? Yeah.

So you just came out, just bailed, yeah. You just tossed them through them away. I mean, what else are you gonna do? There's nothing you can do. No. Yeah, there's nothing you can do. Super embarrassing. Yeah, almost same story happened to me where I,

now what happened to me, sometimes, and it's gonna be a little gross, but you get that feeling and you think you could relieve a little bit of pressure by letting the gas out. Right. So you do the whole game where you try to separate the gas from the bits. Yeah, right. And let me tell you, that's a risky game to play out of. Yeah.

You gotta have those guys at the gate holding the straw. Didn't happen. No. I have a topic I want gate, you know, holding. It's strong. Didn't happen. No. I have a topic I want to get into with you guys. So, I want to hear your opinions. This could get, we'll see. We'll get interesting how, what's you guys feel about this,

this time. But before we do, you just finished your workout this morning. And I, I come walking down the stairs and I see you making some ridiculous concoction. What are you doing right now? You're always doing something weird and adding all kinds of stuff to shakes and drinks. You make like elixirs. Yeah, what were you making? Well, it's the secret of my immense muscle growth. Secret of the use. Secret of the

movie. No, no, no. So I've been doing this for a long time. Okay, so I- Oh, it looked new to me. No, so po-post workout. Poop. No, post workout. I still have I- Oh, it looked new to me. No, so post workout. Poop. No, post workout. I still had that in my head, right? I know. Post workout, there are a few things you could do to, you know, and this is splitting hairs, okay? So I want the audience to know, it's not like you do this

and then, you know, a week, you're like, whoa, this changes everything. But it does, if you're dialed in with everything but trained for a long time and you like doing this kind of stuff, this can actually make a difference. So post workout, a high cholesterol meal, really does help with the recovery in muscle building process.

Your body, people don't know this, but post workout cholesterol levels drop because your body's literally utilizing the cholesterol for repair and rebuild. Cholesterol is also the building blocks for anabolic hormones like testosterone. In the past, body builders and strength athletes would increase their dietary cholesterol, and they would do so with lots of chicken liver and egg yolks, and they'd notice gain. So I noticed this as well.

So here's what was my shake. Okay, I got macadamia nut milk, I can't have dairy otherwise it'd be regular milk. Macadamia nut milk, I put eight egg yolks, mainly because I don't want the whole egg in there because egg whites can bother me a little bit. So I just ate egg yolks. Then I added to add more protein

because there's all the cholesterol, right? There's plenty of cholesterol right there. There's a lot. There's a lot. There's a lot. And it's got coldine too, forget to say that. Coldine is very good for cognitive function and there may be some benefits for recovery as well. And egg yolks very high in cooling.

Then I add protein powder because I want it to have higher protein content. And you can't have way because of your tummy. No, I don't have way. So I do, or they organify plant protein. And the reason why I use them besides us being sponsored is because they combine different forms of plant proteins, creating a better amino acid profile. So I put a scoop of that in there, vanilla.

Then I used the organified green juice powder and I throw that in there because it's got the, basically the broken down, pre-digested, freeze-dried greens that are gonna add some health properties. It's got a little bit of ashwagandha in there. Ashwagandha is great for stress reduction. I had a really hard workout this morning, so I thought it'd be a good idea to offset a little bit with the green powder.

And then I added Organified Pure Powder because it to offset a little bit with the green powder. And then I added, Organifies pure powder. Jesus. Because the kitchen sink in there, because I, you know, I knew we're going to podcast later. And I want to beat you a shirt. I wanted to beat you a t-shirt.

How thick is that? It's like a concrete t-shirt too. Was it how it tastes? You know what? A baby throw up. The protein powder gives it a better flavor. And the green juice is actually pretty good. Yeah, now the green juice gives you a little mint kick. Not gonna lie though. A yolks, I don't drink those for the taste. Did you guys ever go through a phase of that

after watching Rocky? Did you guys ever drink? Yeah, 100%. I tried it, but I didn't go on a phase. It was like, yeah, I tried it. yeah, I tried it and I was like, yeah, that's something. I started with the glass thing with just, you know, the raw eggs and then it was like, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, it would almost throw up every time and then started to mix it in with this, like, ridiculous weight gainer of 5,000 stuff with peanut butter and it was like this explosion

that would happen every time. Yeah, so I don't, so I did try the raw eggs in the glass and it's the texture and everything, it's just, you know, it's terrible. But you can blend it. Then I'm like, why don't I just blend this? What's the difference? I did, and I would make shakes with it.

Probably better. So here's the conversation I wanna get into, now that we cleared up your concoction, there's crazy weird concussion. I know there's some listeners out there that would do weird chrits. Oh, they're gonna try it, for sure. Of course, right.

Yeah, there's a lot here, whatever you're in. Things about all that taste. So are you guys following the recent news with Amazon? No, what's going on? They're under investigation right now. Why? So this is what they're claiming that is going on that Amazon is using data on its consumers to leverage and build competitive products. So Amazon right now has lots of third party people that sell on Amazon, right? You know, okay. And in fact, a majority of that comes from competitors selling their products on Amazon.

But Amazon has all this data to look at everyone's buying, what they're buying, how much they're spending, at what average cost. And so they can use that data to then go like, oh, DuraSel makes batteries and sells it at this cost on our... Everybody likes it for these reasons. Exactly. For all these reasons. So let's make a competitive version of that for a dollar cheaper and basic. Now this is what I speculated would happen with the supplement industry once Amazon got into that,

is what is the stop them from getting the best product of that's being sold already through Amazon and competing reverse engineering it and then selling it to a little bit less. I'd like to know what the grounds of the investigation on. Is it because they didn't let the competitors who are posting on there know because they didn't let the competitors who are posting on there know that they would do this or is it because they think it's so this this is

where it gets interesting and this is what why they're saying this is unfair business practices over 60% of Amazon's money comes from the cloud. So that's most of their their profits come from people selling storage. Yes, selling storage. So only a small, a small, not a small, but I mean, still be millions of dollars. Okay. There's a number again. I know. I like using it when I don't have real numbers to give you so many zero. It's a lot. It's a lot is what I'm saying. Right. So they make a lot of money, you know, through the cloud selling cloud more of their money through selling the cloud.

Less money through stuff that they sell on Amazon. Therefore, it gives them the leverage to basically take a loss. So virtually what they could do is anybody and everybody that pretty much sells on Amazon other third-party products, right? We had something on there, DuraSelica uses an example, whatever, name it.

They have the capability and they have so much capital and money to cannibalize your business. They could literally cannibalize everybody's business. And that's the grounds of the investigation? Yeah, that's stupid. Why? Because that's, what's unfair about that? That's, they're competing freely. There's nothing illegal there. I know. And here's the other thing, what's unfair about that? That's, they're competing freely.

There's nothing illegal there. And here's the other thing. Amazon's platform is based off of the fact that I could go there. So here's what Amazon did, a lot of people don't realize. They flipped the funnel upside down. What used to happen before Amazon got big was, you wanted to find a product to buy online, you type it into Google,

and then you would go through and shop different sites to find a product to buy online, you type it into Google and then you would go through and shop different sites to find the best product. Amazon did such a good job of showing you all these different products with good reviews and you trust the Amazon because that's the thing back in the day you got in a site like do I trust them, do I give my credit card, am I going to get the product. Amazon did such a good job that almost nobody now, or at least a very small percentage of people go on Google to search for a product, they go straight to Amazon. So Amazon became the top of the funnel.

So now that's a good thing, obviously consumers like this, but their platform is built on giving you so much variety. I don't see it being in Amazon's best interest to eliminate all their competition because then you're gonna go to Amazon and you're just gonna see it being in Amazon's best interest to eliminate all their competition because then you're gonna go to Amazon and you're just gonna see Amazon stuff because everyone's gonna leave. Well, that's not necessarily true.

I think so. No, that's not necessarily true. They're gonna have to completely change the word. What's the stuff? Amazon from pulling a Chuck E. Cheese move. Well, okay, David, so instead of a electronic, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. When I said, remember, Chuck E. Cheese started selling pizza

under a different name. What's to stop Amazon from, uh, and let's just keep staying with this DuraSel. Sure. What is it to, what is to stop them to literally reproduce, gay reverse and gay or, uh, DuraSel batteries and brand it under something else besides Amazon. So just looks like a competitor company that's, that's providing products. Well, never happened. I'll tell you why it won't happen. Because we've already had how many decades of open markets and dominant forces or dominant competitors, and they never do that.

That doesn't work. It doesn't work. We are in it here, and I'm playing devil's advocate. Give me an example. We are in a situation with somebody who has way more money in the ability to do that. Okay, give me another company. Another company would have to risk so much more to take that chance to beat out a competitor,

to undercut, take a loss. Companies do that all the time. That happens a lot, but no one has had as much power as Amazon to do that in this position. They have that power over probably thousands, how many companies are there? Are there 30 companies on there?

Well, I just look at what they've already sort of disrupted. They actually have, if you guys seen their version of like QVC, so it's like a prime, it's like that same format where you're on TV and you're selling those products, literally they're gonna take over that market, right? They took over the, so what is your thought? This has never happened, this is the common. It doesn't mean that it can.

Okay, yes, in theoretical land, but here's the thing. Okay, markets have been around for a long time. We've had oil companies that have dominated, yet there's still other oil companies. We've had entertainment companies that have dominated. We still have lots of it. We've had clothing companies. We've had food manufacturers.

We've had car companies. There's always competition the whole Monopoly watch out for this competitor that's so powerful that they're gonna monopolize the market never happens unless the following happens Government comes in and creates large barriers for competitors to enter the market so you're you're partially correct well historically I'm a happy exactly historically, but it doesn't mean that we haven't see you know There was a time when we never seen a rocket go to a moon. Doesn't mean something can't happen, bro.

Not the same. I mean, yes, it is. It's innovation. We are seeing Amazon do something that no one's ever done. God damn, you said this to the day. If you made $180,000 a day from the day that Jesus Christ died, to today, you still would have less money than Jeff Bezos.

So the position that, now listen, I'm not saying that's an unfair thing. The guy created something that so many people love that he's made a ton of money. I'm not saying that that's not fair. What I'm saying is it's very possible to do exactly what I'm saying. It is very possible for if he's making billions

on billions of dollars through selling the cloud, so he's got this secure place of income that protects him to then go into this other Other side of their business and undercut every single person to put them out of business. Okay, never will happen. Okay, his point Why okay, you cannot I'm not gonna let you use History as explanation of why something can't happen in the future economically It's the only evidence that we have. There is no evidence to what you're saying. What you're saying is purely theoretical has never happened.

Right. But you're a way to refute that is just because of history. Let me go. Let me go. Well, let me go further. That would be like someone arguing with me before the moon saying that, sorry, can't happen. We've never done that. Let me go further. Okay. I'll go further. So Jeff Bezos, a lot of money, Amazon, a lot of money.

Okay. If you count, if you look at it in comparison to GDP in comparison to their competitors in comparison to inflation, he has less money than the tycoons of the past. He has less power than the Vanderbiltz and the Rockefellers and Ford. Okay, in the past. Okay, challenge that.

No, not necessarily. They may have had more capital or more money compared to their time But the control that he has because of the platform. That's not true. Rockefeller had railroads under control He he created all and he and what he did is drop the price of oil to the point where the government was like, uh-oh No one can compete the reality is there's still work competitors look now Did how much does Amazon dominate the market? A guarantee, it's not 99%, guarantee it's a lot less than that.

And also look at it this way. Today, the barriers to do anything in the market are way lower. If you want to start a business and sell your products online today, it's infinitely easier than it was before Amazon existed or before the internet existed. We had to have capital to do a business or look at media look what happened with media Do we have media giants we absolutely do and what's happening? You're seeing more competition

Well, now if the problem is that Amazon lies to the people who are posting on that who to their vendor Well, I think that's part of the part of the part of it's good for the consumer at the end of the day It's just a matter of agreed agreed on that. Yeah, this is good for the consumer at the end of the day. It's just a matter of like, agreed on that. Agreed that this is better for the consumer no matter what. And there's the thing, if that theoretical thing happens, which it won't, but if it does, all right, then we step in. But the problem, here's what they do.

They create this fear, it's what government does, right? They see a power emerging, uh oh, we don't like that, especially because we're not collecting as much money as we want. So what they do is they create this, this is the same, by the way, this is the same narrative that's been said forever, ever since markets really started becoming effective, especially in the Western world, America, and the UK, and all those Western nations. This is the same narrative that they always push.

And so here's what happens. You see a company explode, then you say, oh my gosh, they're gonna start taking over everything. Here's what we need to do. We need to create regulations, laws, and barriers. Reality is they start to partner with these companies and make them become more powerful. Well, I don't think I necessarily challenge

what you're saying in that. In that case, I'm just saying that I think you're wrong by saying that it can't happen. I think it absolutely can. Now am I saying in that, in that case. I'm just saying that I think you're wrong by saying that it can't happen. I think it absolutely can't. Now am I saying that that's unfair and that we should govern and not allow it? I'm not saying that either. I'm just an advocate for the free market as you are.

So let the market dictate it. But what I am saying is this could potentially fucking train wreck tens of thousands of companies. And for you to debate that that's not possible with the power that they have and the capabilities they have, I think is absurd. No, I didn't debate that they won't ask you. If you said that would not happen, we're not that towards. No, what's not going to happen is they're not going to monopolize everything and eliminate

all competition. Now, are they going to force companies to figure out ways to compete? Absolutely. Amazon has already put other companies at a business. Okay, just like Barnes and Nobles did with bookstore and whatever, but they also simultaneously created far, far, far more opportunities. Uber basically destroyed the taxi business,

but they opened up far more opportunities. Netflix destroyed the rental market. And these are all points I'm not debating with you. I'm not debating. You're just saying that they could grow and become even more. What I'm saying is, businesses need to be aware of that. Exactly. That my point is, if you're selling on Amazon and 80% of your revenue goes through Amazon

and you're making millions of dollars and you're over there high five and each other and jerking each other off. You better wake up. You better wake up. It's the same concern I had, so back in the day, presenting in front of a company like Apple and people don't talk about this, but anytime you have a patented product

or if it's like slightly patented, you're presenting it to a mega company, they're gonna fucking just deconstruct it and find ways around your patent and do it if they find that it's successful. But you just gotta be aware of that and know that like, okay, well, how long is it gonna take me to get to market?

Am I okay with, you know, you're having competition? The number one I said about supplements like three years ago in Amazon. Like I said that the reason why I would never want to get into supplements spaces, because I literally think that Amazon just doesn't give a shit about it right now.

Because it's still in the hundreds of millions or is it in maybe a couple billion, which is for Amazon, small potatoes. Yeah, pocket change. Right, for them, they're trying to change, transportation and mail and things like that. They're trying to make huge leaps in areas that we have in decades.

They're like supplement industry that kind of blown up in the last two decades Let's see if it's around 10 more years and if it's growth 4x Then we'll go in and just wipe everybody clean because they literally have that power What is to stop them right now since probably a majority of people do sell their supplements through Amazon? We know they do and it's interesting now because brand loyalty isn't as powerful And that's what they created. And you control that right now.

That's a very powerful place to be. It is, but again, do we have more or less supplement companies today? Do we have more people putting out music or less people putting out music than before? By the way, the music industry completely different than it used to be. And the whole fear was, oh my god, they're going to destroy the industry. That's so what's happened is we have more music do we have you know more or less Pretty much most products that we did my My my conversation to the music industry would have been the same one. I'm having right now too

It wouldn't be that I disagree with the disruption of it. I mean we're disruptors in our space I we're a pro that but it's more to put everybody on notice in our space. We're a pro that, but it's more to put everybody on notice. Be careful if you are making a tremendous amount of money through Amazon and you're content with that right now because that very much so could bite you in the ass by what we're talking about right now. Now, the one thing I could see them getting in trouble for is would be lying or not disclosing that. So what they're doing is they're allowing people. I think they didn't disclose it.

That's a problem. That's a problem. Now that's, you have, if you sign a contract, you gotta be honest, here's what's happening, here's what I'm doing with your information, that I'm 100% behind that. But if they do disclose it and they do tell you, this is something we can do and you're on there

and they do it, then I imagine, I imagine, I see I've never sold on Amazon like this but I would imagine that just like Facebook or Instagram you have in a small print. Yeah, I mean I imagine there's a disclaimer that you are releasing your data and information so Amazon could better serve its customer. It's our platform we can use it. Yeah, well, dude. Before you before Amazon or and before definitely before the internet but definitely before Amazon. If you wanted to start a supplement company, I was very, very aware of this industry it's something that I've loved

and I want to start a supplement company. I want to start a GNC. If you wanted to start a supplement company, good luck. You either had to be a famous body builder and actor or be somebody that was in all the publications. Otherwise, a brand new supplement that comes out, nobody's gonna give a shit about, nobody's gonna wanna buy.

You're gonna have to get the GNC's to carry it. You're gonna have to get, go to the fitness conventions, who's gonna pay attention to me if I'm not a pro buyer. Your argument is just different hurdles. Now, with Amazon, do you know how many new supplement companies have started and have made it to seven and eight figures because they're posting good content.

Amazon has the review system, which gives companies the ability to- Yeah, but you could also look at that as like letting the wolf in the henhouse too. Maybe. You know what I'm saying? Sure, come on in, everybody come on in, come on in. Like, oh, you could build more businesses that- So then now we have more opportunity to wipe. Well, look at the music industry, right?

What you had before were these mega, mega superstar, super wealthy musicians who had a record label, and the only way to get your favorite song was by the album. And you did, and it was expensive, and now you have where you could buy music for an eye, and I sense sometimes you can get it for free. So what did that do? Well, the mega wealthy musician that's just selling records,

that's gonna drop, but you're gonna have a lot more millionaire musicians who are gonna have like a million fans or 500,000 fans, and you're also gonna see the musicians, you've already seen this now, pushing more for concerts and in person, something that you've got to have to sell merch. I mean, it's the thing they have to do now. So do you ever think that there's ever a reason for government to step in and not allow a company like Amazon to gain too much power? Not, and less they're doing, if they're

lying, right, right. Say they're having everything's up on the up and up. Oh, no. I'm saying, I'm sure, and I'm sure they were. I'm sure you signed away your, your data and information when you got on there. And they, I thinkally Amazon will probably win this battle and they will have the ability to do those things and is that okay at what point Does a company get more powerful than government? It's uh well when it when it can control a a large portion of our economy and dictate things It's already that's already I mean here. Okay We're this is another another path, but you know when when they've gone through that in other countries well when when the government plays an active role in the market is very strong incentive for companies to lobby

and to influence government that's where at now so i that's why political elections are billions of dollars it's his companies no government plays an active role it makes sense for them to try to lobby to influence so that's already happening but at the end of the day the one with the guns is the government an active role, it makes sense for them to try to lobby to influence. So that's already happening. But at the end of the day, the one with the guns is the government. It's not the companies. And so that's the big thing.

But the reality is they partner. I mean, let's be honest, they partner with each other and what big business does is it says, I'll help you get elected. Which is, if you pass these laws that make it hard for people to be improving capital. Yeah, that's the worst, right? That's the absolute worst. It's the unholy alliance of big business and government. But if it was just straight market

and a company got really, really powerful, that would only be because the consumers allowed that to happen. You're the ones that, we're the ones that say... And I don't disagree with you. And it still opens the opportunity for someone else to come in and create a better version of Amazon. We're seeing that over in what South Korea right now, I think is where I brought that up before.

Yeah, that they're building a platform that's, you know, that's supposed to, remember, I brought this up on the podcast. I think I brought it up and it was in my notes to talk about it was, there's a company I believe in South Korea, Doug, where, and I forget the name of it, but they're basically Amazon's competitor and they're, they're big push to beat out Amazon and their country is that they guarantee if you order before midnight, your package will be on your door by 7 a.m. the next day. Oh, yeah.

Now, they're a tiny country. So they can, you know, I'm saying, they can manage that a lot easier than Amazon worldwide trying to compete with that. You know, Walmart, but that's an example of what you're talking about right now. Like they, they can do that within their country. And if you're in South Korea, you may choose that company over Amazon because they can provide a better service, right? So Walmart can compete, I think, if they want, you know, because they have so many locations,

so they have the ability to deliver very quickly. They have a lot of money, they're very, very successful business. I know that they have their own cloud or they're building their own cloud to compete. So I think Walmart could potentially be... So that was always the argument I heard from execs that work for Amazon. Why Amazon will always dominate is because they own all the cloud. And no matter what, even if you build a competing business with them, you will need... They'll service the cloud. Exactly. So they will still traffic all that money through their cloud, and that's where they'll make most of their profit anyways.

So it's like they got both ends of the funnel. Hey, speaking of technology, I want to ask you Adam, because I have a baby coming in a few months, and baby monitors have changed since I had my kids. I used to have them where you just listen to them. Yeah. Now it's like a camera. Yeah, you watch everything.

You could look through the camera and look at the temperature of the baby. You could move the camera around. It's got my vision. You could talk, it's ridiculous. It's insane. Surveillance. But I was reading this article,

so I want to ask you if this happened to you, where people's cameras were picking up other conversations or they're picking up weird things, like there was one family who thought there was a ghost because they saw this image pass through the room and the baby woke up and I'm wondering if it was just interfering, did you get, have you heard or seen it here? I've had interference.

Yeah, maybe once or twice, I think, I mean, it's all, think about it, it's all Bluetooth connectivity. So if there's a house and I live in a townhouse, right? So there's another house nearby that has a nan at camera, which I'm sure that I mean, there's gotta be, I know there's a baby right across the way from me. So I'm sure-

So you're some person talking. Right, so I'm sure it's like, but it hasn't been that clear where I'm like listening to someone else's conversation, like it's like a second, I think- Dude, that was scared of the shit outta me. Yeah, you know what? So interesting you bring this up. This is actually a conversation

that I've never brought up on the podcast that I have with Katrina time. So like you, I was helping raise my little brother and sister who were 13 years younger than me. So when I was 12, 13, 18 years old, I was raising these guys. And back then, baby monitors were just sound. That's all, yeah it was just as pfft, sound that was, you know, and you only heard when they cried. And that was just, and that was like incredible technology, right? Before that time, like you just had to listen to hear your baby crying, right?

So what it has done though, and I just, I don't do this, Katrina does. I mean, Katrina obsessively watches him obsessively. And to her, it's, she, I mean, this is her first kid, her first time, it's raised to me, that this technology's already around. She doesn't know what it's like to have a baby monitor that only you can hear sound.

And for her, it's like, it's the ultimate safety. Like she can see him at all times. I mean, he moves and we get a notification. Yeah, it picks up movement. Yeah, right away, it moves right away, and it tracks all his time he was sleeping. If he wrestled or if he moved around it all. I think some of them will even look at heart rate.

Oh, yeah, I have all that. I have the heart rate, the temperature in the room, the temperature of him. Yeah. Everything, I can just make me paranoid. Oh, I don't watch it. Yeah, I don't watch it. It's too much.

Like everyone's like, we're here right now, right? So I'll admit this. And you can pull it up on your phone. Yeah, I can watch it right now. So we can watch, and we're here right now, right? So I'll admit this. And you can pull it up on your phone. Yeah, I can watch it right now. So we can watch and I can communicate to him right now. So I do that, like we're away right now, so I miss him, right? So I, and I'll see activity, movement,

and so I'll look on it, and sometimes I'll talk to him because I can do that. That's so interesting. So that's cool. There's cool features about it, but then there's also the obsessive part where I've joked about, I think off here, you guys about like, you know, could try to have sex with me while

she's holding the fucking camera. And so, I'm just like, hey, this is not working for me. You know what I'm saying? Like I know mom's got to get hers right now. It's something like that, but could you at least put my son up on the dresser for like 15 minutes here? Totally. But she is.

She's like, why don't you know what, I don't want to not hear him. If he starts kind of like, oh, he'll be fine for 15 minutes. Give me a break here. Well, you know what it makes, it's like, it's just, it's starting at the, as soon as they're born and it just continues because then the kids have cell phones. So my son goes somewhere and I'm like, hey, text me when you get there.

Text me when this happens. If I call, I expect you to answer the phone and I catch myself with that because I wonder what that creates in the kid, this dependency or this like, they'd lose independence because when I was a kid, you went out to play, you were out. You were gone.

I can already tell in our relationship, it'll be me challenging that all time of me just let him go. Let him go figure it out, you know? Just be back by the sun, you know, I'll be that dad and she'll be the one like, if we are, where I went a text message, I can see that that, oh I could see like you're looking at your phone and your kid is like, um'll be that dad, and she'll be the one like, if we are, where I win a text message, I can see that that. Oh, I could see like, you're looking at your phone, and your kid is out and like, you know,

oh, my daughter's heart rate's going up. What's happening at the party? Hey, honey, why is your heart rate going up? Well, I mean, this parallels what I was thinking about this in terms of like, you know, the state of our world. Are we really like, is it that much more crazy than it's always been? Or is it just the fact that like, these incidents that happen in a than it's always been? Or is it just the fact that like these incidents

that happen in a city that's like way across the country or you know, like these pop-ups of interruptions that normally wouldn't even have known about unless you're in local news? Oh, totally. It's just bombarded and now, the sudden you're just creating all this like excess amount of anxiety and stress

with everybody else's problems. That's it because the numbers prove it. The numbers prove it that today is the safest time to be alive, especially if you're a kid. Yeah. You know, kid nappings were higher when we were kids, violence, murder, everything was worse when we were kids. Things are significantly better. So it's 100% that I remember there was a there was this.

I don't know if it was an Instagram page or it was like a social media page somewhere where it was teenagers or kids posting videos of their friends getting like so drunk that they'd collapse or throw up or whatever and they'd make fun of it. And I remember parents were like, oh my gosh, I can't believe this is, and they were all freaking out.

And it made me think to myself, gosh, if there was a camera around me all the time when I was like 15, 16, 17, you know, the stuff that we could have got caught, I mean, I don't even wanna say on the plane, teenagers do some stupid shit. Luckily nobody had a camera. Luckily nobody was able to film.

It's all captured now. It's all captured, you know? It'd be interesting, well, I think that's, it's gonna be the responsibility of parents to pay attention to film. It's all captured now. It's all captured. You know, it'll be interesting. Well, I mean, I think that's it's going to be the responsibility of parents to pay attention to that. And to understand the value of allowing the kid to create independence. And probably the detriment of what happens if you hover over them too much.

And you will have to actively do as parents. It'll be your responsibility to be self-aware of when you're doing that too much. You know what I'm saying? And now, lucky for me, I have a partner who I think is extremely self-aware of that. You know, I give her a little bit of shit and I gave her a little shit on the podcast

just now about her obsessively watching it. But at the same time too, she looks at me and she's just, I mean, she's in love with her son and a doors him and she's just watching. Natural. Natural. Yeah. So there's a part of me that, and I get it. I'm away right now.

Last night we all left each other and went to bed. I went to bed and watched my son sleep. I'm saying, for about 10 minutes, just looking at him. So I can't get, I get it. You know what I'm saying? And I think that as he starts to get older and it becomes more important that he has more independence, I think that she's self-aware enough to catch herself

if she's more to like. Yeah, it's gonna become a discipline of like allowing them to develop and figure things out themselves without like getting your fingers in their, you know, like influencing. There was one more question I would ask you, Adam, when Katrina was pregnant, because one of the issues, one of the fears that, you know,

and I think is common with women as they have, as they go through pregnancy, one of the fears that Jessica has is, has to do with stretch marks, stretch marks that are gonna happen because obviously you're growing so quickly and all that stuff starts to happen. Did Katrina use the, the, the, the Jew of light during pregnancy or post pregnancy for stretch marks?

Katrina was religious about not only the Jew of light, but she did the whole, and I know there's like, people that agree and disagree with the whole like cocoa butter and the truth. Sure. Yeah. She did, she did all, like every night, every time she was out of the bed. So probably two, three times a day, she was doing that. She was hitting the ju, at least one or two times a day for 10 minutes at a time. So that was like, I never really said anything to her.

It was like her thing that I could tell that she did not want to have these massive stretch marks and she wanted to do whatever. And part of that also was managing her diet. Like Katrina was very dialed with her nutrition. So she didn't want to put on any more extra weight than she needed, right? She wanted to carry enough weight for the baby to be healthy and eat what the baby need to, but she was very disciplined not to go out like Katrina did not go through a dessert kick and over consuming and adding an extra 15 pounds that she didn't need for the baby's health on her and an addition of that, doing the cocoa butters like crazy, doing the juve light like crazy and she has nothing.

Well, yeah, so because when you research, uh, stretch marks, there's no research to support the creams and the lotions and the oils. Uh, in fact, they say it won't do anything, it's all genetic. But the red light therapy does have good evidence. It's got actual studies done showing that it reduces the appearance of stretch marks once you have them, but also it could prevent stretch marks. So I make the disc coloration. That's how she started was I saw her doing

the cocoa butter thing and I didn't want to like completely shit on it And be like hey, there's no real research that says that like I was just so instead of like hey if you're really trying to do that There's actually some really good research to support. We have a damn juvenile in the guest room Use it and once I told her that it was like game on yeah Because you look you look into it and I mean you have to use it consistently So you know, I know they have them in salons and stuff But the truth is when you look at the studies People use them consistently

You know on a weekly basis at the very least and for you know over over a period of time So it's not like you use it once or twice and then boom you're gonna you have to be done over time But the studies are are Conclusive it does it's one of the very few things that can help with stretch marks So that's what I have Jessica on. I wasn't asking. I wanted to ask you what your you know what your guys' experience was This quas brought to you by Organify For those days you fall short on getting your organic veggies or whole food nutrition Organify fills the gap with laboratory tested certified organic superfoods to help give your health a performance-the-added edge.

Try Organified, totally risk-free for 60 days by going to Organify.com. That's O-R-G-A-N-I-F-I.com and use a coupon code MindPump for 20% off at checkout. First question is from Mostophicin. How does body type affect your way of working out? Should a person consider a specific amount of weight or training methods if they have a mesomorph, ectomorph, or endomorph body type? I think this question is because have you guys seen a lot

of, I've seen a ton of Instagram ads around this, right? Yeah. Like it's become really a popular angle is to market to people by their, their semano types, you know, act to morph into morph, meso morph, and say that, oh, if your body type is like this, you should be eating and training this way and not like this.

And that could be the reason why you're not getting results. Yeah. I've seen the, have you seen the one, the female version where they have pair, they have one? Yes. There's almost like 15 different versions they're trying to narrow it down for them. This is such, and this is marketing 101.

So people get this. Like you're hitting a major pain point. Everybody, including myself, right? Like I want to believe that, even if there is some truth to it, I want to believe that it's much harder for me to build muscle than it is Justin. Justin is at it's much harder for me to build muscle than it is Justin. Justin is a much higher advantage than me to build muscle

because it's definitely fit. Because it's bone structure. Three structure. Three structure. So he has that advantage. And the reason why I'm not more buff is because of that, because of my body type. And maybe that's why, because I've been not eating correctly

for my body type in my training. So that's a major pain point for a lot of people. So it's a great way to mark it, but that's really all the real weight to it. It's, there's not a lot of truth to this. Yeah, this reminds me of, do you guys remember when they had the whole, are you a pair, are you an apple?

If you're this, then you need to eat this way. They're still a marketing like that. Yeah, so, okay, so those somatotypes were created in the 1940s, it was a psychologist, William Herbert Sheldon, I think is his name, who came up with this and he was trying to be, he was like taxonomy, right? Taxonomy's classifying animals,

and so he said, oh, we can classify humans into these three categories. It's been widely, isn't it rooted in eugenics? Well, sometimes, he didn't necessarily know much about it. I know somebody that tied it into that. But it's been widely debunked because most people don't fit neatly into any of those categories.

Most people are a combination of a lot of those things. Now here's my opinion on training your body for it's class of, you know know how it is a body type or whatever At the end of the day, there's something that Trump's that by far which is your own individual self, okay? Well, you don't want to do is fall into a pattern of I have I train this way because I Looked like this or because my body shape is this way. And then you ignore your own body's individual signals. When I train clients, one on one,

I, you know, just looking at them, I never developed a routine based off just looking at them. My routine was based off of how they're funded, how they move, their own lifestyle, all that trumped it. Even, even male and female. Here's a deal, like, there are clearly two biological categories of male and female. Here's a deal. There are clearly two biological categories of male and female sex, and generally speaking,

there are differences between men and women. Everything from hormones to fat distribution to, lots of things I can generally say about men and women, but I still don't say men train this way, women train this way, because at the end of the day, it's all individual. It's all based on the individual. It would be nice if it was that simple. It would.

And I think that's the key factor is that people want something that's so straightforward, so simple, and it's gonna work for them right away. And so they're looking for that, and so marketers know that. And so they know how to basically present that in front of you. This is the answer that I was looking for and it's speaking to me because I do fit within this Description in this type of body type and all these things

Unfortunately, you know, there's a lot more education that needs to happen in self Responsibility and understanding of of you know like your body signals all these different factors and genetic factors that you're bringing into working out. Yeah, I would say that here's the most important things if you want to, you know, base your workout and diet off of information. Number one, your goal, number two, your lifestyle, number three, you know, how you feel during the workouts, your behaviors, what you enjoy to do. Those are the most important things. Those are the most important things.

Those are the most important things, and I'll give you an example of that, right? I could, we could do some crazy analysis of an individual, I could do all kinds of biometric readings and biology, and we could test your gut floor on DOS, and I could say to you, hey Steve, we did all this complicated, took you know, $50,000 with a test or whatever,

based off of our research, the most effective form of cardio for you is going to be to wake up at 5.15 a.m. and go swim in a cold lake. Now if Steve hates that, never wants to do it, guess what? It doesn't matter. Yeah, it works. Because we're doing that long term success. None of that matters, right?

So that's why it's important to consider that. Not only that, but there is even a massive variance day to day in week to week. True. So, you know, maybe that's perfect for Steve tomorrow, but then Steve gets bad news at work, gets terrible sleep the next day. Drinking binge. And that's and here's the truth, you know, Justin said it would be nice, but it would be awful for us. We would eliminate our jobs. I mean, that would be, we just pump out like out like very specific, you know, PDS, like here. Yeah, but then we'd be done.

Then we'd be done. Yeah, it's done. I wanted to know. We know reason to have conversations like this afterwards, right, because it would be that specific. It's like, oh, here's your body type. Here's what you're supposed to be eating. Here's what you're training.

There you go. Go follow it. Just spits it out of a machine. Yeah, we'd be done, right? And many people could duplicate it. But really, that's what makes a great coach, a great coach is able to adjust on the fly like that, is to know to ask the right questions from the client to get the proper feedback

to then make the best educated guess. And I say guess because we always are kind of guessing. We don't know, I don't know, physiologically go, what's going on in everybody's body at every moment. And there's so many, that's what makes us so unique and beautiful is there's so many things that are happening, moment to moment that you can never just categorize a type of person or people in a group

that this is how they should eat, this is how they should train, this is how they should sleep. Nah, it just doesn't work that way. The best we can do as coaches is to help educate and form the listener or the client as much as possible so they can learn to read some of these signals and make the best education. And this is why I experience it so important. After you work for people years and years and years, you start to see patterns and your guesses get closer and better and more accurate. Next question is from Coach Dad CT. I don't drink alcohol, but my thing is Dr. Pepper.

If I have three to five cans on the weekend, am I better off with the natural sugar and calories in the regular one or the diet one with artificial sweeteners? Yeah, I like this question because I think it was Sal who got me to really reevaluate this. I think I've openly admitted on this podcast that I've had this like diet coke thing

and I still occasionally have these. Now it's like once a month or once every other month, one finds its way in there. If I'm in joint leave you the other day, we had in an out burger and I like a diet coke with my in and out burger and I'm there, right? I don't have my Hanson natural sugar option while I'm there.

So what I've done though is to eliminate pretty much drinking diet codes completely is, you know, just say how I'm gonna have, and Hanson is a product that I really like. It's a brand that I, we're not sponsored by them or anything, but they have natural sugar and the calories are still, pretty minimum. I think it's a brand that we're not sponsored by them or anything, but they have natural sugar and the calories are still pretty minimum. One thing is 130 calories or so for the drink. And what I've noticed is that instead of drinking diet coax and saying, oh, it's zero calories.

So allowing myself the freedom to have it every day or twice a day, saying, you know what, I'm going to make the choice of having something with sugar and knowing that it has 130 calories, I tend to make a better choice. Plus, I notice the way I retain water in my gut. So when I'm doing diet coax, I definitely get this kind of like inflammation and I definitely feel like I'm holding water,

especially in my gut. And when I do natural real sugars, I don't get that. Now, I could also be because when I drink a natural sugar drink, I tend to have one and I have one maybe other day. If I have diet cooks, I can watch myself go from one every other day to one a day, to then even allowing myself to have two in a day, really quickly and maybe it's the overption of it that is causing that.

The problem with this discussion is always that we don't consider the total context. So is it better to have the sugar drink or the artificial sweet and drink? I don't know. I need to look at the rest of your life. I need to look at your behaviors. Here's the main challenges that I see with artificially flavored drinks. Now forget the whole debate about whether or not the artificial sweeteners are healthier or bad for you.

I'm going to, let's just assume that there's no risk with them. Although I think that's baloney, let's just assume no risk. It just makes your drink taste sweet, and so there's no calories in it. Studies show consistently that when people include artificial flavor drinks into their diet or replace sugar drinks with it and they're left to their own devices, they don't lose any weight.

Now why is that? Is it because the artificial flavor drinks cause them to gain weight? No, because they make up for it by eating other food. Behaviorally speaking, it doesn't cause weight loss. Now, if you track everything perfectly and then you cut out sugar and replace it with artificial sweeteners, you'll lose weight because you're going from calories to no calories. But here's the behavior issues I see with artificial flavor drinks, this is what Adam is talking about.

Drinks that have calories and sugar, those have a natural barrier. What I mean by that is there's something that people tend to consider When they drink Those sodas there's a consequence. It's on the can 130 calories 30 grams of sugar That's my consequence people's behaviors when they do that especially health conscious people They tend to limit the drinks or have a few and that it. When you have a can of soda that has zero calories, you have eliminated the perception of the consequence. So then you just start to drink the shit out of it.

Now what's bad with that? Well, we know that it doesn't reduce your food intake. You end up making up for it. It definitely throws off how you perceive food. So now things that are sweet naturally don't taste nearly as sweet. Compare a diet coke to a regular coke and a diet coke is sweeter. Much sweeter. That's the biggest thing that I've noticed.

And if I get in a pattern of drinking even something like that has a stavia or something that I consider to be a better option in terms of a sweetener, just they make up for the fact that the calories aren't in there by really you know, really turning up that sweetness so your body kind of responds like, oh, it's nice. But then that affects the decisions I make later on in terms of like what I'm craving or what, you know, might find its way into my food and like having desserts and things like that. Like, it's just my palate starts to then kind of crave that sweetness in other directions.

This is exactly what I found. And this is the, like someone's probably listening going like, well, how can't you, why can't you discipline yourself to have the one diet coke every other day or a few days the same way you do with the Hanson? And that is why. It's because what ends up happening is I have this, you know, artificial sweet and drink that is like super powered tasting sugar and changes my palate.

Now when I have a handful of grapes or I buy it into an apple, I don't get that same satisfaction. It's not a thing. It's not. And so I don't get that same pleasure signal in my brain as I was getting from that diacope. So then it makes me want more of them.

And so I keep chasing that. And so I really didn't test this behavior like this until we had brought this up on the podcast. The way I kind of looked at it was like, ah, you know, I'm very aware of my behaviors. If I start to see myself go from the Diet Coke occasionally to the Diet Coke every other day, to the Diet Coke every day,

then also not allow myself. And it's always like, if I caught myself doing two Diet Cokes in a day, I know I've worked my way up, and that's always was my like, okay, time to pull off, and I'm really good about doing that. But I never really thought, oh, what if I just allow myself to have a sugar drink when I want it, and will it be easier for me?

And you brought that up when this discussion came up before, and I actually applied that, and it's been unbelievable. I don't feel I need the diet coke so I don't get caught up in that. When I have a Hanson drink of that and I tell you what, another reason I wanted to bring this question up is because I had been in search of a brand

like Hanson that I really like and I found one that's even healthier and even better and has even more flavors that I like that I cannot wait to introduce to our audience because we've been going back and forth for a few months now. Oh, there's the ones that we tried. Yes, and so that's getting sealed up right now. So we have a new partner in that space

that I'm super pumped about because this definitely, this is a brand that really speaks to me because that has been a long time battle for me is always wanting to go Reverb back to Diet Coke and I feel like this is something that's gonna completely eliminate that. Yeah, one of the big problem that we do in the fitness space is we look at all everything from a mechanistic point of view. Oh, look, no calories. Therefore, it's okay, but we don't look at our game. We don't do the big picture. Look, artificial sweeteners have existed now for decades and we still have obesity. It hasn't solved anything. So what happens? Well, it actually encourages, tends to encourage,

I should say, a bad relationship with food. Here's a good relationship with food. I want something sweet. Okay, there's some calories in it. That's okay because right now I think I'll enjoy this. A bad relationship of food is consequence-free pleasure seeking. Okay, apply that to anything else in your life. Consequence-free pleasure seeking. There's always a consequence. You think there's no consequence,

but there's always a consequence. And your body does become desensitized when you do this often. This is with everything that's gonna happen. With anything that gives you pleasure, sex does the same thing. You can desensitize yourself to the point where what might get you in the mood,

no longer gets you in the mood because you've been desensitized because you've exposed yourself to too much, you know, whatever. Same thing with food. So look, I've been training, we've all been training people for a long time. I've never seen somebody fix their nutrition issues by replacing sugar with artificial

sweeteners in my experience. It's never, not only is it not fixed, it usually causes more problems. Next question is from Ty Finicum. How would you, or would you even approach a friend or family member when you can clearly see their health declining or weight getting out of hand. If they are amenable to help, where would you start? You know, this is a question that we get all the time.

Yeah, we revisit it a lot. And it's, I struggled with this for a long time. I'm sure you guys did too. Oh man, it's a tough one. I think it took a good decade of being a personal trainer before it really sunk in for me that I can't control the decisions that my family makes. So I went for the first phase of like recognizing that. I can't change what they're gonna do.

But then there was a part of me that was frustrated or sad and disappointed. And then I had a whole different realization. And that was that this isn't my life, it's their life. And you know, some people get joys out of certain things that I don't see as much of a priority. I think that constantly getting, you know, eating foods that are pleasurable all the time

may give me instant gratification, but I see the rewards of not eating those foods all the time, and I appreciate them. Some people have never seen that or felt that or can connect with that. Therefore, they don't ever feel they want to. And who am I to judge them or tell them how to live their life?

The best thing that I could possibly do is to be an example and allow them to see the choices that I make and how fruitful it's been for my life without really saying anything and hope that they ask the right question to allow me then to help them in that direction. Otherwise, if it's not, if they're not asking for it, it's, even if it's received temporarily, it's not likely they'll ever stick with it because of that. It just doesn't work. It just never, I've almost ruined relationships.

I got to a point with my parents where I'd come over their house and I'd look through their pantry and take things out. Ma, why are you buying this? Dad, why are you doing this? And we'd have dinner. Listen, you guys eat too much of this.

And I used to get on their nerves. And it was actually starting to ruin the relationship between my parents and I. Look, we can talk about this from a completely different standpoint, one that I think more people will understand, right? Let's talk about religion for a second. How many people find a religion?

It changes their life positively. It's like the most remarkable thing in their life. And then they come to you and then they constantly, you gotta do this, you gotta look at this, read this book. And when it's up happening, do they succeed? They often push you in the opposite direction. You turn them off. And they end up doing the opposite of what they thought.

I've experienced situations where I've met where I know people who have a very strong spiritual practice. They don't tell me anything. I just watch them and see how calm they are, how successfully seem to be, wow, you seem to have like such a good sense of purpose and meaning. Great relationship. With your kids.

And then I'll ask, how is it that you're like this? And then they'll say, well, you know, it's my spiritual practice. And then I'll say, well, I want to know more. Now I'm open. Now I'm open to learning and listening. It doesn't work trying to hammer into people that they got to eat right, they got to get fit, they got to do this. It just doesn't work.

Now there's a flip side to that, of course. If the relationship with that person is causing you lots of issues, and I do think that fitness people have a low tolerance, You need to increase your tolerance, not everybody sends the same way or whatever, so be a little bit more tolerant. But at some point, if you got a family member that is just doing drugs and is an alcoholic, and you're like, man, this is negative.

This is hurting me. Yeah, it's damaging the family or you. Then you just can have to say, look, I can't hang around with you anymore. This is at a hand. I know it's your life, but now it's starting to hurt me. But you got to also increase your tolerance. You can't be like, hey, I don't want to hang around with you because I see you

eat cupcakes every once in a while. Don't be that asshole either. You know? But you're not gonna change anybody by, and listen, I'm telling you, listen, you're listening to a guy who is an excellent salesperson. I can get most people to see my point of view when I really, really want to, never worked with this, with anybody in my family.

They only push them away. The religion, yeah. I tried the shit. The religion analogy is beautiful. It's exactly like that. It's, there's nothing more annoying than having somebody try and push their religion on you, but it's totally different when you see something in them

that you want or that you're curious about and you ask them about it. So the best thing that you can be is just that example and hope that they ask, why, man, why are you so, you always have energy in the morning and you're always so positive and you're always so happy and, oh my God, you just bend over and pick that up and you know, got to be able to live it and allow them to see it to ever want to receive it. Right right and then eventually what happens is someone said and this has happened to me too is that after I did that people come up to me and say hey can you help me with my diet a little bit?

Absolutely. You know hey do you think you could help me with the workout I'm having a little bit absolutely. They never would have come to me if I would just continued hammering them. In fact, it would have been like, screw that, I'm not asking that asshole. Who keeps beat me up.

Because I don't want to be. Yeah, that's a good point to bring up too, because I've dealt with this quite a bit and tried to apply the whole modeling aspect of it, especially with my parents and seeing if it, at all, it influenced the way that they would eat and whatnot. And it's not been working. You know, it's been really frustrating.

And, but, you know, there are those little moments where they're like, you know what, like, I was curious, like how to lower my inflammation and like doctors said this way, I'm like, oh, that's a window. And you don't, you don't wanna overwhelm them with stuff. You just wanna address that one question, give them really good information,

and so it feels valuable to them, and then back off, and then that leaves more steps for them to take towards you. You gotta be humble too, and graceful with that. You don't want it, I did this once. You don't want to throttle all the way, dude. They come to me and I, hey, Sal, I think I'd like, oh man, I've been telling you for like the last time. Now you come you come to me. Oh, I just ruined that moment. Yeah, exactly. Next question is

from Teenie Tangy. Are there any lessons you have had to learn twice? Oh, personal, working out. I think working out, I learned every lesson 15 times. Yeah, I feel like that's two. That's a give me. I feel like that's too easy if we go the working out I learned every lesson 15 times. Yeah, I feel like I feel like that's to give me I feel like that's too easy if we go the the working out. Yeah, I think working out too hard I think every lesson and I think that's why I think we have so much patience and empathy and I think why we repeat Things over and over on this podcast is because I I remember and I'm sure you all remember A lot of the lessons that we teach They had to be taught to myself more than once, you know, like I had to like change,

do it and then see the results from it and then still go back to old behaviors or habits and then again, so yeah, you know, let me think of a personal one that comes to mind that I've had to learn. Yeah, the workout ones are easy. It's like, yeah. Working out too hard, yeah that I've had to learn. Yeah, the workout ones are easy. It's like, yeah. We're working out too hard.

Yeah, I've learned that one, I don't know, a thousand times, not doing proper mobility work. I still am learning that lesson, diet stuff. I learn that shit all the time. It's like, I'll eat something and then afterwards I have, oh, my stomach and I'll be like, oh, yeah, because you ate that, done, and then you have to keep relearning.

That happens a lot, and I think, I think the lessons I learned once were the ones that caused a huge consequence. You know what I mean? Like, you know, if texting in the car, like if I did that and then I hit a car and cause someone an injury, I could see myself learning that lesson

because the consequence was so terrible, right? But it's not that, I don't know very many lessons I haven't had to be exposed to several times in a row. Yeah, I'm trying to think of a good, a personal one. You know, I always talk about how your greatest strength is your greatest weakness, right? So there's things that I tend to lean into because I know that's my strength, but then bites me in the ass many times. And like an example that is like, I'm assertive. And a lot of times that serves me and business to take charge, lead, do these things. But then if my social awareness is lacking that day, many times I could really

turn somebody off and it could kill a business deal, it could rub somebody the wrong way. And so this is a lesson that I constantly learn. And I don't think I ever, or I should say I'm constantly learning. I don't think I've perfected it. How do you know always like this is the time I lean in hard to the assertiveness or this is the time where I back off, like always trying to refine that. So I'm constantly learning that lesson.

That's gotta be a tough one too, because I could see how after you had a situation where maybe you were too assertive, it's easy to defend yourself to yourself, like well, whatever, screw it, you know? Yeah, yeah, that was just that, that was their bad, you know, I should be. For many years, I tell I was.

For many years, it was like, I'm gonna acquire taste, you either, you know. Like, it is what it is. If you're too weak to stay in hangman, I had that attitude for sure. And as I got older and wiser, I think, and more socially aware, I think that I've learned to know when to throttle it down and when to pull it back.

And so, but I'm still, again, it's not a perfected skill. It's something that I'm always trying to harness. I have a similar one to that, but it's more geared towards, like I will jump into anything, like that I feel super passionate about and like an idea or without like completely sitting down and doing the research, the market research,

the, like playing, like drawing it all out in terms of like, you know, the market research, the playing, drawing it all out in terms of the mind map and the business plan and all this kind of stuff, which to me I've felt has been a superpower because it's been able to allow me to make connections with people I wouldn't have before and learn these lessons that I can build off of. But the problem is that mentality persists, which then I get myself back in a hole because I jumped in before really doing my due diligence of research and really understanding what I

was in for. So, to me, it's more of a calculated risk. I like learning that lesson over and over instead of just jumping in with the risk because I'm willing to take the risk is to be a little bit more measured in that but still, you know, find that balance of like I can still figure this out like as I'm in there but just do a better job of actually like looking into it first. I did that you just reminding me of something that a lesson that I've learned. like looking into it first. I did that just reminded me of something that a lesson that I've learned. It was choosing partners. I've done a lot of business ventures and many of them I've had partners

and failed more than once, right? So I made the wrong decision more than once enough to where I probably thought, I should just never have partners ever again, yet here I am in a four-way partnership, right? Never, never even had. I had sexy, partnership, right? Never, never even sexy. Yeah, right? But, you know, I think that in the past,

I tended to lean towards just either one, a friend, or somebody I felt really comfortable with, or somebody who I think was had similar characteristics as I did, and I really think that what makes this work is that the things that we have in common are core values, which I think that's our foundation and that's important. But then we couldn't be more different

as far as our strengths and business and that's why it works so well. And I think I didn't learn that. I wouldn't have learned that. Had I not had multiple partnerships fail and not work in the past to come to this place to recognize that, you know, understand that everybody in this in this partnership plays a significant role. And I can never do Justin. I can never do Sal, I can never do Doug. And that's a good thing. It's a good and because we have similar values

that we always fall back on, that's the core foundation and the partnership. That a lot of that stuff wasn't taken into consideration in my 20s when I was partnering up with people. That was a mistake I think I had to learn more than once. I got one that I learned over and over again. That was recent. So you talk about greatest strength

that you're greatest weakness. I like to call that the shadow side of an attribute, right? So, you know, I have a lot of self belief, you know, self confidence. I have quite a bit of that, but the shadow side of that is arrogance, right? You can get so much self belief that it makes it hard for you to listen in here other people.

And I'm aware of this, doesn't mean I'm good at it, just means I'm aware of it. So I'm at the phase before I get good at it, I guess, or whatever you want to call it. But I had this happen with my kids and with Jessica. So Jessica's always telling me that sometimes I'm not present, you know, that I'm not paying attention or my mind is wandering or I'll be on my phone or whatever.

And so I, you know, we were with the kids and we were talking about, you know, things that we do. And my daughter goes, yeah, she goes, sometimes you'll start a sentence and you won't finish it. It happens all the time, it's super annoying. And I'm like, what? And my son's like, oh yeah, you do that all the time. I'm like, what do you mean?

You'll be like, oh wow, you guys, and then you'll look at your phone or trail off. And she goes, you need to work on that. My daughter says that to me. Now, Jessica's been saying that to me for a long time. I have not been listening to her because I'm like, yeah, anyway, I know, I know me. I know, I know, I know. But I don't. I don't always know me.

And so it made me like, okay, I gotta listen more and consider that I may not be aware of something that someone else may be aware of, and I got to be able to consider it. But it was my kids, my kids were like, my daughter was like, yeah, that's a problem. She literally said to me, you need to work on that. Oh, yeah. But they're brutally honest. Yeah, and everybody was laughing at the table and I'm like, shit. There's another one.

We were talking with the kids and I'm like, who's got the worst temper? I'm thinking like, oh, yeah, I'm not going to have the worst temper for sure. And my kids are like, oh you easily. Like, holy shit, am I that not aware of? Like, that I'm the least much tempered. Dad yells. Yeah, so, wow. Yeah, so learning to listen and consider people's,

either, you know, criticisms are complaints of me, especially people around me. That's a lesson that I think I gotta keep working on learning. Look, MindPump is recorded on videos as well as audio. Come join us on YouTube, MindPump Podcast. Watch us, we're just as fun. Look at us.

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