Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1354: Alternatives for Squats, Bench Press & Deadlifts, How to Exercise When You Have Neck Pain, the Best Way to Work Out Over 50 & More

Episode Date: August 8, 2020

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about bicep exercises that don’t aggravate neck pain, how to adjust weight and volume after 50, replacements for the big 3 exercises, and some of the resources they read or studied that had an impact on MAPS programs. Introducing Mind Pump’s newest sponsor, Dr. Squatch. (4:32) The fears and misconceptions surrounding childbirth. (8:44) Pray for Beirut. (16:53) Maximus’ first experience seeing horses, glamping & MORE. (20:23) Are movie theaters going to be a thing of the past post-COVID-19? (25:45) Arizona gyms are opening back up! (29:37) The fastest path to becoming a millionaire. (31:53) Mind Pump Conversations: Parenting lessons learned and the importance of being present. (39:47) #Quah question #1 – Both my husband and I suffer from neck pain and find that bicep work, standard curls, and others aggravate this. What are some bicep exercises that we can do? (47:50) #Quah question #2 – I just turned 50 this year and I am an experienced lifter of 25 years. I have been working out basically the same way as I did when I was 25. Should I be scaling back the reps and volume for heavier weight and lower volume or should I be adding more reps and volume? (54:03) #Quah question #3 – If you had to remove the 3 big lifts, what exercises can you replace them with that would be comparable? (59:35) #Quah question #4 – What were some of the resources you read or studied that had an impact on your current programs? (1:08:27) Related Links/Products Mentioned August Promotion: MAPS Performance ½ off!! **Promo code “GREEN50” at checkout** Visit Dr. Squatch for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Amazon.com: Watch The Business of Being Born | Prime Video What we know about the explosion in Beirut How to help Beirut Explosion victims Safari West Disney Plus' Mulan release: Everything we still don't know 'Relief': Arizona Gym Wins Partial Victory Against Governor's Shutdown Order This is the fastest path to becoming a millionaire—but it’s also the hardest, says money expert The Millionaire Next Door: The Surprising Secrets of America's Wealthy – Book by Thomas J. Stanley and William D. Danko Yellowstone The ONLY Way You Should Be Doing Dumbbell Bicep Curls! - Mind Pump TV Visit Organifi for the exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code “mindpump” at checkout** Mind Pump #1282: The #1 Key To Consistently Building Muscle & Strength (Avoid Plateaus!) Mind Pump TV - YouTube MAPS Fitness Products Menno Henselmans on the Benefits of Full-Body Workouts The New Encyclopedia of Modern Bodybuilding : The Bible of Bodybuilding, Fully Updated and Revised Dinosaur Training: Lost Secrets of Strength and Development Supertraining Becoming a Supple Leopard 2nd Edition: The Ultimate Guide to Resolving Pain, Preventing Injury, and Optimizing Athletic Performance Mind Pump Podcast - YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Mike Matthews (@muscleforlifefitness)  Instagram Menno Henselmans (@menno.henselmans)  Instagram

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We tell stories. We have a lot of fun. If you want to be entertained as well as informed, listen to the whole episode. If you just want the fitness stuff fast forward 43 minutes. So let me give you a breakdown of the whole episode. We open up by talking about our newest sponsor

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for the first time, cute little kid. This was a lot of fun. It's come for a circle, hasn't it? We talk about how Disney's stock is going up, even though it shouldn't. Doesn't make any sense and how they're releasing Mulan on Disney Plus. That's exciting.

Then we talked about Arizona gyms being able to reopen soon. Awesome. Proud of you, Arizona. Very good. I talked about an article on the path to millionaire and the fastest path to becoming a millionaire. And then we talked about parenting. We had a good conversation about parenting there.

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and has been training the same, essentially, for that whole time. Needs, wants to know if they should reduce their volume or increase their volume, or what they should do to train differently now that they're over 50. The next question, this person wants to know, if we had to eliminate the big three exercises,

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Yeah, which is I got it I put it in the shower because it smells really good right it's natural smells is not like fake and Had in the shower and you know wash myself come out Jessica's like oh my god You smell amazing I'm like you know it's funny here we go. You know who markets that way is that the brand acts and I think that stuff smells like dogs Yeah, yeah Way too like much perfume stuff they put in there. Smells like full on chemical. I feel like they should name their sense like douchebag.

Like you smell it like way to it. Way to insult like half the audience. I'm sorry, but it's like it's like you're wearing I used to use get them to switch over. It's like you're wearing an ed hearty shirt, you know? Oh God, it's the same thing, right? You're gonna double down on them, huh? Just keep on going.

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What's up? I got a question for you. You have to be honest. Did you ever wear the, did you ever wear him around here? No, I'd never did the Anklets, dude. I just never did. You didn't do any of the things around here? No, no, no, I missed that part of the phase.

Yeah, yeah, I know that was a thing. I just picture out of you, don't even mean to the club. Yeah, yeah, I know that was a thing. I just picture out of you know, I mean, the club. Yeah, let me just stop it. Stop it. I mean, with sunglasses on like, man, it's already dark. You are not allowed to even have this conversation. Say, yeah, you are not allowed to be in this conversation. Absolutely not. I'm so allowed. No, you are not. I'm just because I'm so far in the other end, it's easy for me. Totally. No style for bitch in the ass. Not here with that. You would no style for bitch in the ass. I have some, I have some, I had some douchey looks. Did you have, I think, back to the end. Did you guys ever want that? The one was like, okay, I had my hat where I would put it up and then I would hairspray my bangs to go up into my hat. But I feel like it,

it's, it's, it's only, yeah, right. It's only douchey when it falls out of favor like for a year or two and someone still is doing it or just gets on board. That's it. It was douchey then. So here, look, you guys are, you're kids. Stop at jinko jeans. Hey, douchey, you're right. So you guys are watching enter the dragon with with Bruce Lee. Yeah. When he's on the boat in Hong Kong and he's, he's got the fighters are coming in and one of the fighters like what's like What style do you know and Bruce Lee and he's like throwing punches in the air whatever and Bruce Lee's like I I have I do the style without you know the fighting style without fighting or whatever my style is the style without style It's like Bruce Lee's Kung Fu. Okay, you know, I'm saying great analogy for you stuff. Hey

Um right over. Hey, I've been learning a lot about some interesting stuff about childbirth. Yeah, I know, good segue. Yeah. Let's think about babies coming out. It's an interesting thing to happen. Well, you know, okay, so obviously Jessica's third trimester, we're gonna be having a baby soon.

And there was a documentary wash a long time ago. It's very transformative. The baby one or the business of being born. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. So along, this is for people who didn't listen to this episode a long time ago, we did, you know, we would talk about these topics and I talked about how childbirth was so dangerous

and women would use the dial time and thank God for Western medicine because it's no longer a major, you know, death risk or whatever. You got checked. I did by a midwife. So midwives are the legit experts on natural childbirth, more so than even doctors.

Doctors are experts at what they do. Midwives are experts just that. Childbirth and natural. One of the best investments that we've made in Max, in my opinion. I mean, they're having them as a support. Oh, incredible, right? So a midwife contact, it means you're totally wrong.

It's a very natural process. The way we treat it is totally wrong. And I try to be open-minded. I'm like, well, I admit this is not an area of expertise. And so I did some study, watched that documentary. And the way we treat childbirth is like the way we treat a lot of things in West America. It is. Yeah, well, it's a medical emergency.

It's a medical emergency. It's a medical emergency. Right, and so here's something that's very interesting about this. So the muscles around the cervix, or the muscles that control the opening and closing of the cervix, are a sphincter muscles. So sphincter muscles are circular muscles that when you tighten, they shrink and tighten up like your butthole. As sphincter say well. Exactly, and open up when they're relaxed okay and so

here's a big problem now since none of us have ever had a baby or never will have a baby I know it's 2020 but still not gonna happen let's say like we're still in reality you're trying to poop okay you're trying to go poop in your but you're terrified anxious and scared is are you gonna be able to have any poop come out yeah you're not? Because everything's as tightened up. Those muscles automatically tighten up when you're scared or anxious or fearful. That's what they do.

It's hard to relax, stink their muscles. So when women go into childbirth with all this fear and the way we treat it is like, ah, it's a murder, you watch movies. Oh my god, my wife's gonna have a baby and everybody's so scared, it reduces the percentage of women that can have natural childbirth because those muscles, one is they tight.

What do you think too about the theory of like, we don't train the pelvic floor muscles as much as what we used to. I mean, think about back in the days, would you be in a squatted position and probably gathering things and working those muscles and being connected to that and the importance of that, and then also the drugs that you be in a squatted position and probably gathering things and working those muscles and being connected to that and the importance of that.

And then also the drugs that you use to numb all that. To me, I think that's a part of the reason why everything becomes a medical emergency with child birthing is that you go in it, you're to your point and that's the first phase is like your freak death. You're scared, they're constantly checking, oh three enemies, oh you're not moving fast enough.

Oh, let's give you the epidural, let's give you, so a patosan first, yeah, then the epidural, right? And then you get that and then it numbs you from like the waist down. And we know like, you know, when you're trying to activate or work any muscle on the body, how important it is to be able to feel it and be connected to it.

And so you're asking a woman to be numb in that area and to try and help push it through, but not be able to feel it, which, and then you're already somebody who doesn't train pelvic floor muscles and doesn't have a good connection there as it is. I just think it... Well, C-section rates now are through the roof, and there's this theory, midwives talk about it a lot of time, all the time I should say, where it's this cascading. I can't remember the term they use, but essentially you're doing medical interventions

that then lead to more medical interventions. So like phase one, you go into the hospital, you're freaking out, they're constantly checking your cervix, oh, you're not moving fast enough, and so now you're kind of scared. You feel like, I'm not, what's going on, I'm not moving fast, it's not happening quick enough, I'm already in a hospital, which is like an emergency place.

So then in order to progress the process, because they say it's not happening fast enough, and we all know, part of the reason I think why they say that is, they gotta get you out, they need the bed, they need the bed. But anyway, so they say, you're not moving fast enough, give you Potosan. Potosan makes the contractions unbearable,

very powerful, unbearable. So now you've got that, Now your pain goes to the roof, which leads to epidural. With an epidural, you can't, often you can't stand, you can't squat, you can't move, you're disconnected. Which then leads to, you can't get the baby out, and that leads to, then we got to cut the baby out with a C-section.

So they call it this, I can't remember the term they use, but it's like one step after another leads to this big intervention, which is surgery. Oh yeah, that's why it's really helpful to have an advocate on your side. Much like the midwife, we had a doula basically with a set of things that we were trying to make sure that we were able to kind of assess things slowly and have like different positions that we could try. And because they don't even want to,

like, because it's such a machine, like the way that they go through these procedures and they try to get you to have, you know, get to the point of it all without any discomfort. Like, they're trying to solve like a discomfort. And so anytime there's any kind of noise or anything, there's always this rush to get the pain solved.

What? And imagine too, as a woman, and you have a doctor who's telling you, let's do this or let's do that, or we should do this. And you're vulnerable. Yeah, of course you're vulnerable. You're on pain. This is the first time maybe you've done this.

You're freaking out. Well, we know real easy to listen to a doctor telling you like, hey, let's do this next. And I remember our dual was like, no, like if that was the biggest thing that I got from it was the support like that. Because I would never win in the heat of the moment when that was happening. If it was the doctor saying this way, and I even if I, we want to go natural, huh, we want to go doesn't matter at that point.

If he's saying, oh, let's go this route. And I'm all, I'm right away, yeah. I'm right away vetoed in that situation. But with the support of the doula, she would look back at her and be like, you're okay, you're doing great right now, you're fine. You just have to be able to rotate in certain things to happen, you know?

Like, yeah, it's totally like an emergency situation, high stress. And so like to have somebody there to kind of be your advocates. Yeah, and I do want to say this, obviously as an observer, it's easy for me to say certain things. I've never experienced childbirth. I have tremendous respect for the whole process.

I've witnessed, both of my kids being born, obviously I have another one coming along the way, but here's something that I've also understood just through fitness and through understanding the human body through health, is that you have pain and discomfort, and then there's a second part of it, which is the perception of them.

And for example, if something hurts, but you know it's not damaging or dangerous, you tend to perceive it differently, then if something hurts and you know, this is know it's not damaging or dangerous, you tend to perceive it differently, then if something hurts and you know, this is natural, it's supposed to happen. For example, when you're working out, the kind of pain that you feel when you're working out, you learn to perceive it differently,

you still feel it. Workout's still hurt for me like they did when I first worked out. But they're not unbearable, like they might have been the first time because I know, I'm familiar, I understand it. This is normal soreness. How many times have you had a client get sore? They've never felt sore before and they freak out or even in the middle of the workout the first when they feel it burning That's right

You know, if you've never worked out before and that burning. Oh, it's burning. I'm stuck That's right That's right and historically you know that the way that was happened is that when she went into birth You had these these elder these elderly women that were experienced and wise and they would take the woman away, they'd go into tent or whatever, and they'd be very peaceful, very calm, and it would change the perception of what's going on. I feel like that place is such a huge role.

Now that I've done much more research, again, I'm far from an expert. So if I'm annoying people right now, that's, you know, whatever, totally fine. I'm a trainer, but just from my perspective, I think it's all very, very interesting. Hey, did you guys see the Bar root, or the 11 on the huge explosion? I was like massive explosion.

Hell was that. That is insane. Now, did you see the before and after? Yeah, and it left a crater. Now, has anyone done, like, I didn't dive deep into it because I didn't have the time yesterday, but what was it? I heard rumors fireworks, then I heard chemicals,

and I was the first thing that came out that was like a firework. Where else are some of you? So the official story is that there were stored chemicals or, you know, fireworks, and that went up in flames, and then it blew up. story is that they were stored chemicals or fireworks. And that's what went up in flames. And then it blew up. People, some people are saying the color of the smoke and the mushroom cloud,

that because it was a massive explosion. I mean, it affected miles. That's how big it was. It looked like a mini nuke went up and on. It was on fire. And so that's why there's a lot of people actually filming from different angles. And then all of a sudden you get this just explosion.

It throws you back even watching it on video. Yes. Now, now here's some other theories that are coming out. There is a Hezbollah, which is the terrorist organization often funded by the government in Iran. Basically, they say owns that port. They own that port and that was a place that has below with storing certain types of missile and rocket fuels.

When those burn, they turn white. That's why the smoke they're saying was white and why it was such a massive explosion and now there's a big cover up that's going on. Other people say that maybe it was Israel that saw what was happening there and attacked this port, which I hope that's not true because innocent people died. But those are not the official story of what's going on. Yeah, and yet it's interesting.

Yeah, I wonder how we're going to find out what happened if they're going to release that or it's just going to be one of those things in the new cycle that just kind of goes away. What's the death count at? Do you guys know how many people are? I think it's up to, I know last time I checked it, I think it was close to 100. I know it was like 70 something and then- Probably a lot more injured, right? I imagine.

Dude, it definitely- There was one video where someone was driving on a bridge and then there's the, there was like a bunch of, like the water separates the bridge from the area where the fire was and it's far. It's like if you're- the water separates the bridge from the area where the fire was. And it's far, it's like if you're... Oh, that was a boat video, that's right. No, someone was in a car, they were driving,

and they were filming it from their car. And I mean, it's far away. You would think you're totally safe for the distance. Then the explosion goes off and the shock waves it knocked the car on its side, all the airbags went up, the rear-view mirror blew off. 20 seconds, then all of a sudden boom, then the shock wave hits, knocked the car on its side, all the airbags went up, the rear-vroom mirror blew off. 20 seconds, then all of a sudden, boom, then the shock wave hits, and it just shakes everything.

So 135 dead count, or death count, and then 5,000 were wounded. Yeah, they said they're blaming it on a 2700 ton ammonium nitrate stash. Is what, what is that for? What is that for? It was at fertilizer and explosives and explosives. Yeah, so I don't know.

That's crazy though. I mean, the before and after pictures just, yeah, it's just imagine being there surviving, you would think that what would you think? There's war yeah, you would have thought of bomb. Yeah, somebody just dropped the bomb on it. It was crazy. It was just like a huge explosion.

Oh, it's insane. And when you can see the shock wave moving out for miles and taking things out, I mean, it's just scary, very, very scary. I hope the people out there are the best. I hope that people are doing okay out there. So anyway, we'll see what happens. Hey, I wanted to ask you, Adam.

I saw you post a video of your, it looks like you took your we'll see what happens. Hey, I want to ask you, Adam, I saw you post a video of your, it looks like you took your son to see some horses and. Oh, yeah, yeah. No, he took him over to see my dad. My dad has a ranch and they have, they breed horses. And so that was the first time that he had actually seen it. Did you guys sound my sound when a little bit over there? That was Justin. Oh, it was Justin. That one. So we're like, no, it's okay. You know, we took him over to my dad's ranch and they breed and sell horses over there. And so that was the first time that he's seen a horse, right?

So it's in person, right? Obviously, it books and stuff. And I've been waiting to see how he would be around like farm animals. And if he's just now really in the last like two months or so, I think really becoming aware of everything and like pointing and looking at things. So it was cool to see his reaction.

So that sent us on this like, oh, you know, he's almost ready to go take him to like a zoo or do something. You know what I found in Sonoma, you guys? What? This is so badass and it's a, it's glamping, right? So you can go, you can go stay. You in court.

This is in Sonoma, right? I didn't even think that we had something like this. Oh, is this the Afro, they're like the big safari. Safari. I never heard about Courtney stayed there, yeah. She did? Yeah. Is it good?

Did she like it? I loved it. Okay, you're trying to get me and the kids to go up and check it out. So I want to take Max, we want to wait until he can kind of where he should be walking any day now. Like I want to take him when he's walking at least. I think it's like 500 and I,

and you stay in these bungalows in like this little mini safari. And then you get up and get to dry. We're just like giraffes. Yeah, yeah. Just hanging out. Yeah, it's like a zoo that's like on this property. Is it open right now?

I believe so. No way. Yeah, yeah, I believe it's open. Oh, I'm gonna go. It was one of those, we were actually worried, because remember when they had all those fires up in Sonoma? Like, I guess it made its way through and didn't affect that particular of winery.

I didn't even know we had something like that over here. I know, yeah. I thought that's the way it was. I heard about it once or twice, and then I forgot, all about it. Really? Yeah, and I was like, oh, we gotta go. Yeah, Katrina found it.

I mean, what sparked it was the horse, right? Us being with them and seeing the way. Wow, look at the bungalow. So Doug just pulled it up. Yeah, Katrina found it out. I mean, that what sparked it was the horse, right? That's being with him and seeing the way. Wow, look at the bungalow. So Doug just pulled it up. Yeah, Safari West, this is it. Wow, that's legit. So another thing, you don't need to get a bunch of malaria drugs and trust.

Yeah, exactly. Another thing to consider out of like, so there's other ways to glamp. And so this is, I've been trying to get the kids to actually camp with me, you know, and like go like camping and like rough it a bit and like court is not interested at all in that. So she's pulling me into some, I guess there's a way that you can basically rent out a trailer that they drop off at one of those campsites ahead of time. So you have it all

set up and all that stuff. And then like it's a whole community of these like trailers Yeah, and and so again, it has like pool there and it's like well. I've seen those those are like the air streams Yeah, I know somebody just did that you just drive up and it's there. He's already there for you And then they take it away when you leave It's just like I'm like I'm lazy so I'm sorry I've seen that I've seen the ones that are like they're actually, they're like RV parks that are like really nice, a pool of amenities, fire pits, everything like that, like really nice camping grounds.

And then it's all those air streams that have been kind of gutted and then customized to look like a hotel room. Yeah. So it's like you get this like that. They're just like putting the role in trailers in at a similar park just like that. Oh wow, that's for you. 100% what I would do.

Yeah. 100%. I'm like, I'll try to, you know, be out there and pitch my own tent and do all that kind of stuff and teach them things about ruffin it. But it's like, she's, anyway, that also do that on my own.

Yes, my sister and Tom, they just bought those ATXs, which are like the little like off-road ATVs. Yeah, those are awesome. You know what they sell them at? Do you know what those are? I feel like 12 grand? 26,000. Oh, that's a lot.

That's a straight car pay. Are those a car pay? Are they legal on the road? No, in case I was actually talking to my sister this morning about this. So you can drive things like that, including my ATV. You can up to two miles is the law. So for two miles, and the reason why that's-

Two miles on the road? Yeah, how they know. Well, it's because, well, it's an off-road vehicle. You can't drive it on the road. You can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't drive it on the road. You can't drive things like that, including like my ATV.

You can't drive things like that, including like my ATV. You can't drive it on the road. You can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't drive things like that, including like my ATV. You can't drive things like that, including like my ATV. You can't so they allow that, right? So when a tractor comes on the... Yeah, exactly.

You're allowed two miles. You're allowed two miles with these off-road vehicles to be on public roads. Dude, you still have yours, don't you? Yeah. I forgot. I'm not afraid of us. I forgot.

We're just coming up there, dude. I'm getting, the chain on it, I told you I broke the chain, riding it not that long ago when I got it all fixed, or Katrina got it all fixed for my birthday last year. And I snapped the chain and then I was like, oh shit, of course, I just got this running and then the chain snapped.

So then it's sitting over in my brother and laws barn and covered up and we just fired up every month just to make sure that the battery doesn't die. But now that my sister has that and we found out that the trucky house is like the head of all the main trails of like Nevada and that whole area and Tom is like hardcore like mapping everything out and find all these rural areas we can go so that's fun. They can drive from their house to our house without ever hitting a road.

From Reno? Yes. Wow, that's awesome. Yeah, yeah, so excited. Hey, did you guys hear about Disney's release that they're gonna be doing? No. Okay, so the Milan day. Yeah, so two things.

Number one, this is how I swear to the stock market makes zero sense. It does not make any sense right now. Disney comes out with earnings and they taint. But because they taint less than what people thought, the stock went up like 11%. What a weird time. I was in so bad more money.

You guys sucked, but as bad as we thought. We didn't suck that hard. But anyway, so Disney's, so a lot of people are anticipating this adaptation of Milan, right? Like they did beauty in the beast, they did. I don't remember which other one. Well they may hear like all like this warrior. Like I saw some of the trailer for it.

It looked interesting. Looks really good. Yeah, it looks good. Mulan's one of my favorite Disney cartoons. Yeah. Absolutely love it. So a lot of people waiting for it, a lot of parents are waiting for it.

It was supposed to be released in March I believe, but they didn't because of obviously everything that's going on. So they're going to release it on Disney Plus. So this is an actual motion picture just skipping all the theaters. All of them release on Disney Plus, $28, excuse me, $29.

You have to pay. Don't you see this is what's happening? I mean, you kind of have to do it. To me, this is like, our movie theaters gonna be a thing in the past after COVID. Are we, I think that all these streaming companies, all these production companies have got to figure something out,

right? And the only choice is to go straight to streaming like we're seeing right now. You're seeing that too, you brought it up about prime. There's stuff that is in, that would be in theater that you can now buy on there for a premium, right? Well, once they have to be going like completely out of business, I mean, it's been so long now with zero revenue.

Like, there's no way, like, how are they keeping the lights on when they come back? Well, and it's also like, once people get a tape, this is the same thing I feel about education. Once people get a taste of watching these releases at home and, you know, even though it's gonna be 30 bucks, essentially, I'm still saving a ton of money. I got, you know, two kids, me, Jessica,

plus you buy whatever, you know, it's like 70, 80 bucks when we go to the movies. I'm still saving a ton of money. I got two kids, me, Jessica, plus you buy whatever. You know, it's like $70, $80 when we go to the movies. I'm still saving money. I'm in the comfort of my own home. I can buy whatever snack I make my own popcorn. This is why we need automated cars because then we could turn our garages into theaters. Mm, yeah.

I like what you're thinking. That's why I wanted to. Mine's a gym. Well, gym slash theater. But I mean, once people get a taste of this stuff, I think that's why homeschooling's exploding. People are getting a taste of it and saying, hey, look, I'm super bad.

I think I'm gonna go in this direction. Well, it sucks, because I wanted to see Maverick in the theater. You know, then the new top guy. And I was like, oh, excited to watch that one. That's it. So to me, it'll come back, but it'll be like one per town. Like we'll have one in this city, that's how I feel, like just for things like that.

I mean, there's gonna be movies that the experience of going to watch it in IMAX and crazy surround sound is just, it just doesn't live up to some, unless you have that, unless you've got a $10,000 plus dollar setup in your living room. It goes Shaq's house. Yeah, very few people have a setup like that.

So I still see that there'll be some people that will wanna do that, but not enough to be competitive, not enough for there to be like, what do we have? Like six or seven different theaters here? I was just so surprised that these driving theaters haven't been just rocking, you know, through this whole thing. It's like, I mean, you're in your car,

you're obviously social distancing, you could roll your windows up. What is going on with the one down the road for us? Is there's one in San Acruz? How's it open running? Is it open? It's open. It is open.

Yeah, you can go watch movies like new movies and show old movies. No, they're doing like double headers of like, Predator and Alien or, you know, movies that you would want to watch together. It look, it's kind of fun. Yeah. if you take this what you do you take your kids especially if you have a big car you open the back lay the seats down put some blankets bring some snacks the kids said it's a it's a lot of fun. It's especially

this summertime right. Hey, did you guys hear about the gyms in Arizona? No, what happened? Dude they this so they won a ruling so they went against the state, went to court and now they're going to be allowed to reopen in about a week. So gyms are going to be allowed to reopen over there. Did you know that Arizona is ranked as if not the, I think it is the top fittest state in the country. Did you know that? I thought it was Colorado.

No, I think it's Arizona. And maybe it's not the fittest, maybe it's the most gems per square foot or something. I know that they have, like it's one of the, you know, most fitness-minded states in the country. I can't remember when I read that article, but I read that years ago, and I didn't know, I assumed that we would be.

I thought that California would be one of the leaders in that we're not. Yeah, no, I'm really, really happy that they got the opportunity to reopen their gems in Arizona. I don't know people right now, it's dangerous. Here's the deal. Yeah, fit it.

Go to most gems per square foot. It's your choice to go into a facility like that and take risks. And it's the business that's gonna decide how they set that up. It should be. So I'm very happy with this ruling. Plus, here's the business that's gonna decide how they set that up. It should be. So I'm very happy with this ruling. Plus, here's the deal. We do know that poor physical health is a major risk factor

for severe symptoms of this pandemic. And so some people, this is how they get all their activity is by going to the gym. So let's see here. Doug's bringing it up. Colorado was what, number nine? Number 10, let's see here, Doug's bringing it up. Colorado was what, number nine? Number 10, let's see number one. For most gyms.

Oh, Minnesota. Minnesota. Wow, wow, Minnesota. Minnesota, I would never have guessed that. They have the most gyms per what? Per square mile. Really? Where's California?

It's a thing to do. Not even to talk to. Especially in the winter. I wonder what it was for Arizona. You know why, though? California's got such big expanses of area that are not nobody's around. Yeah. But I remember when we were in Orange County and they were talking about like how many gyms per square foot. They were just like right next to each other everywhere. Oh, dude. Southern California, there's literally blocks where there's like two or

three. Well, I wonder if they count. I know I wonder if they count like CrossFit Gems now too, because that's what's, that has to inflate. A fun gym. It has to, I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding, everybody. Hey, I read a cool article today. The title of it was The Fastest Path to Becoming a Millionaire. So you guys want to guess what it is?

The Fastest Path. Saving your money. All right, so there's four ways that they listed that you could become a millionaire. One of them is the fastest number one. Well, hold on, hold on. Let me give you what they, because they labeled them kind of different.

Becoming an influencer. Oh, yeah. No. You imagine all the, you know, think about all the TikTok influencers right now. Oh, they're f**k. Cheek, cheek, cheek, cheek. TikTok's about to be banned.

Yeah. Oh, now. As McDonald Yeah. Yeah. It talks about to be bad. Yeah. Oh, no. As McDonald's hiring, all right. So here are the four main paths to becoming a multi-millionaire. The saver investor path. So this is somebody that makes saving investing part of their daily routine. Yeah. Then there's the company climbers path.

These are people that work for a large company to vote all of their time in energy to climb the corporate ladder until they land a senior executive position with a very, very high salary. There's the virtue. It's really hard to do. Right, then there's the virtuoso path, which is the, this is people who are the best at what they do. So they're paid a very, very high premium for their knowledge and expertise. So these are people that are like the best of the best in their category. Virtue is virtuoso.

I love that word. Then there's the dreamers path. The dreamers path are all in pursuit of a dream, like starting their own business, becoming a successful actor, musician, or a best-selling author. It says your dreamers love what they do for a living and their passion shows up in their bank accounts.

So out of those four, which one, the fastest way to becoming a millionaire? I still think it's saver. No, virtuoso's people, I think they're the ones that you can charge a ridiculous rate. Okay, but it's random that people find them. So it's actually the dreamers. So the dreamers, yes, but it's also the most difficult. So first off, the saver and the high risk, I reward.

Yeah, exactly. And it didn't say the safest way or the most difficult. So first off the saver and the risk I reward yeah exactly and in the didn't say the The safest way or the most guaranteed way right said the fastest way okay, because I feel like the saver investor path is Probably the most it's the most methodical if you like that you'll love the millionaire next door Mike turned me on to that book like a couple months backage I finished reading that a while ago and that was really good and they actually the whole book It's white saw I think you'll love it, it's all studies. It's all research, it's all, they break down the numbers. Yeah, the thing that I was most fascinated in was,

and I probably messed up the exact percentage, but I know it was like really high like this was, that like 80% of like multi-millionaires don't drive a car that's worth more than 40 grand. Yep. Which was like, whoa, so like when you see somebody, when you see, you know, you go down to Santana Road, right, that's an area where we see like all the Lamborghinis and Bentley's and stuff, now I look at it all differently, now that I think to myself like, damn, how,

and they're just statistically, if I just saw 10 of them go by me, at least half of those guys aren't even really gone. Yeah. They've rented it. Wow. I thought that was really, I thought that was really fast. Bro, it's all, it's like insecurity's coming out. It's like no different. Who's the guy at the bar?

I want to start all the fights with everybody. It's not the trained MMA fighter, the black belt and just do two. I don't think it's always the type of thing. I don't think it's, I don't think you can default to it. It's always an insecurity. I drive expensive cars. I like cars and you've alluded to this before

about where you get joy, right? And I love to drive. I mean, I always drive us everywhere we go. I've liked the drive since I was 16 years old and I love cars. I'm into them. And so I enjoy them. So I don't think it's always a default to like, it's insecure. Well, no, but I think I'm generalizing, but I think a lot of it is. I think it's a lot of these people. Well, I agree with you. They leverage themselves heavily. Here it is. I think it's a lot of these people. Well, I agree with you. They leverage themselves heavily.

They, here's how, okay, here's how I know, okay. Same place, Santana Ro. You're sitting now right now, you have to sit outside, you can't sit inside at all. So I've been there a few times with for lunch or dinner with Jessica. We're sitting out there. This is what people do with,

they drive by with the Ferrari or Lamborghini. By this is the most doucheous stupidest thing you could ever do. First of all, you're already driving an amazing bad, everyone's gonna look at your car. Well, they're nerds, they do some advantage. You don't need to rev your engine as you're driving, so stupid, you're driving by five miles.

Ramin, ramin, ramin. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, god. It's like, oh, we did in high school. Yeah, like, it's just that now I was said, and they're like, ooh, I'm cool. It's like, this is what cool people did in high school. Yeah, you take your shirt off of the beach like, I need to do some pushups and stretch them for like

I think it's more Freudian than I think it is anything else. That's more of a They want to sleep with their moms. No, it's not everything is fucking otherwise. That's Freudian, I don't know. Freudian can mean too that these people, these, this is like men trying to attract women, you know, it's a sexual thing.

It's more of them. This is their way of peacocking, right? You want to attract the wrong women, I guess. Well, maybe. I mean, that's it. But look at my car. There's still a large, a large purse. I mean, we've said it before on this podcast.

Like, what do you think is a more guarantee that you find a wife being this nice guy or being a rich guy. If you're being, and that's one of the ways. A good wife and nice guy. Just a wife, yeah. You're probably presenting and peacocking so you get attention. So back to that article, so this guy did a huge study and he found that 28% of the individuals in this study were dreamers. Here's some cool stuff about them.

They had an average net worth of 7.4 million. Here's the crazy part. Most of them were able to accumulate the wealth over a period of roughly 12 years. Very short period of time to get to multi-million, especially when you compare the other people. Now it says here, what makes their path so hard? Here's the things about it that are difficult.

Very long work hours. The dreamers in the study worked anywhere from 65 to 75 hours per week before they finally achieved their dreams. Now this makes sense. If it's a dream of yours, you're so passionate and focused, you're just gonna work on it all the time. All consuming.

Here's the stressful lifestyle aspect of it too. It says until the dream begins to pay off, making ends meet can cause almost intolerable financial stress, totally unknown with this like. You start a business, you grind, and it's funny because people look at a business and be like, wow, you guys crushed that of nowhere. It's like, you don't see the previous 20 years where you're right. You know, whatever. All the foundational work. High risk. It says dreamers by nature or gamblers, they're willing to put everything they own on the line in order to get to their dream.

And then here's the last one, it's demotivating because they have such high ambitious goals, some people try talking them into pursuing another path. So imagine if your dream is to start a fitness podcast that's successful, for example, like we did, and you're doing it for a whole year without getting paid, like we did. Imagine, you know, impatient spouse or friends, it's like, hey man, you're not making any money. Yeah, maybe you should just get another job. It's just straining, everybody happened to you.

I wonder how they measured that, because I know in the Millionaire Next Door book, they attributed to real estate, because a large portion of people, even if you didn't have a massive high paying job, if you invested early and you could pay your mortgage, you know, and if you've had the house for 12 years, and you definitely, if you live in California, the same age. The Bay Area.

And yeah, there's a big difference between net, like you're worth, and how much you actually make, because there's a lot of millionaires in California that don't make a lot of money, because they bought their houses like my grandfather my grandfather came to this country my mom was for zero skills He was you know as a child is extremely poor dirt poor Worked since he was a kid lived in Venezuela for a while to try and make some money. Finally came to California was a custodian And at schools and cleaned movie theaters is how he supported his family bought a house That's back when San Jose was a farm town

before the tech industry came here. I think he bought his house for $16,000. Right. My grandfather now is in his 80s, and his house is worth at 1.3 or 1.4 million. So on paper, my grandfather is a millionaire, but the man probably never made more than, you know, 30, 40 grand a year in his entire life.

Yeah, I got a question for you, Sal. So I was, I got a new show that I'm watching right now, called Yellow Stone, it's with Kevin Costner. Okay. Oh, I've been trying to watch that, but I can't figure out where to watch it. It's so, yeah, I had to, I bought it on Prime, so I had to buy it.

Is it good? Yeah, I like it. I give it a B-minus. Okay. Yeah, it's got, I wouldn't say it's like one of my top shows, but I enjoyed it, it-minus. I wouldn't say it's one of my top shows, but I enjoyed it's a cool show, but the question I have for you, so in this show, Kevin Costner is a grandfather

who was terrible to his kids, and now he's got this grandchild, and he's obviously trying to be, and we've talked about this before, how you guys see your dads with your kids, and like, where was this guy, right? Right, right, right, right, trying to make up for lost time well and a lot of that is yeah It will they're older their wiser

They also have they recognize at that time at that point in their lives Maybe the mistakes that they made with raising you guys they better people so the question I have with you I know you're not a grandfather, but you have this large gap look like one question I have with you, I know you're not a grandfather, but you have this large gap. I look like one. Yeah, you have this large gap with having children, and I'm sure you've already thought a lot about this. Are there things that come to mind

that you either wish you would have done different or there's things that you plan to do now with this, the child that you are about to have that you look at your kids now and you feel like, man, 100 I 100%. 100%. Now, I got this lesson going through a divorce. And when you go through a very challenging, painful time,

you either become more of what you were, or I think you change. And so I chose to change, try and become better. One of the things I recognized was I just was not nearly as present as I should have. I missed a lot with my kids. Most of what I did a lot of, I worked. I worked a lot and I was constantly thinking about work

and focusing on work and reading and trying to become, you know, to expand my knowledge base and all that stuff. Meanwhile, I missed some of the most important moments with my kids either because I wasn't there or more often than Meanwhile, I missed some of the most important moments with my kids, either because I wasn't there or more often than not, I was there, but I was half there and my mind was somewhere else. With this time, I'm going to be far more present, and luckily we've created a business that allows that, so the hours aren't like they used to be.

Just being present means literally being there, not just thinking about other things or waiting to, you know, what I gotta do tomorrow, whatever, that's the big one, man. And then patients, like, my patients is way, you know, higher. I mean, I think- Now do you see it? Do you see it in your children's behavior and your relationship, though?

Because I see your kids, and I think you have an incredible relationship with your kids, and I don't see, like, I mean, you, I think you have an incredible relationship with your kids and I don't see like I mean I know you guys have met you know older kids that are your age From other friends or people that you know and it's to some it's sometimes obvious. It's like oh wow the Dad really missed the boat here. Yeah, the way the communication or the way you know the way he probably was raising him and you can see it now as they're turning into teenagers. I don't see that with your kids. So you say that you weren't very present,

but I don't feel like your kids feel like you weren't very present. I think they always felt loved. I always, I'm very affectionate. So I'm not one of those dads that has trouble showing, they're hugging and kissing their kids and expressing how much they love them. And of course, important things I never missed. So like, you know, school events and stuff like that,

I always tried to make. But I know, I know that I was not as present as it could have been. You know, I'm saying, so I appreciate you saying that makes me, you know, it feels good to hear that. But I think this time around I'm going to be even better. but again, you know, I'm still raising my other kids so I still have now I'm far more present with them. Yeah, but they're both at an age now where I think you start to see, because five to seven is the most formal years when they really start creating those pathways, behaviors.

And by the time they start getting at teenagers is when they really start to revolt or really push back on maybe. You see how the work plays out. Yeah, right. Or the lack of work playing out. Right. And I just don't see that in your, I don't feel like you're,

I don't see any like behaviors that your kids express that I go like, oh, that's probably because Sal wasn't around very much. It wasn't present. So I think you're probably harder on yourself than what you really, than what you really want. Yeah, maybe, you know, than what you really want.

Yeah, maybe, you know, maybe, but still I still think like this time around, plus here's the big one too. It's like it goes by so fast when they're little, you know, one thing that Facebook does, I love and I hate, is you go on your feed and it's like seven years ago. Memories. Yeah, and you see a picture of your kids when they were little and you automatically want to cry. Not, and it's mainly because you your kids when they were little and you automatically want to cry not and it's mainly because you missed That's when they were that young. Oh my gosh. I remember that. Oh, yeah, it's like a video with their little cute little voice Oh, it hits you so sometimes I came a look at them. I can't look at it around

I'm embarrassed myself in public, but I it's it happens so fast like your kid right now It's believe at trust me with this it goes even though now you're present you're a kid right now. It's believe, trust me with this. It goes, even though now you're present, you're very present, father. I'm sure you're gonna look back and be like, oh my gosh, that went by so quick. Oh, we talked about it. We talked about it last night. You know, we were, he was asleep.

We just put him down and we're sitting there and we're getting ready to watch, we're watching that show. And then the, the kid that I'm talking referring to, that was a grand kid to Kevin Costner. He's probably five or six years old, some around that range or seven, somewhere around that range. And I was like,ner. He's probably five or six years old, some around that range or seven, somewhere on that range. And I was like, God, it's going to be any

day like we're going to have in conversations with him. How weird is the thing? Like right now getting him to do sounds and point and say, Dad has like such a big deal. I'm like, like real quick here at a blink of an eye, he's going to have full on conversations. And others, we were talking about how weird that's gonna be and feel and then be thinking back to these times right now. I definitely feel like, and I'm sure this happens for every parent that it just keeps getting better and better, right? So every phase or every new chapter of his life,

whether it presents new challenges, oh, he's gonna run around, it'd be like people always talk about all the hard stuff, which for me, there's a reason why I waited so long because I knew it was fucking hard I knew that it was a lot of work. I experienced that with my my two younger siblings So that I feel I'm the most prepared for I was unprepared for the sacrifice unprepared for the hard work Me I get to and that I think maybe that's what allows me to be more present is I was ready for all that. And so I can really focus on the moments, the fun stuff and the things that I'll probably look back five, 10 years from now, go like, man, do you remember when the first time he

giggled when the horse came and this and that? And was like, he was so innocent. Like, I think older fathers do a good job. But forget the age part. I think there's some more mature. Your wiser, you're settled, you're smart, you're not chasing certain things. Hopefully he's more selfless, right?

More selfless, yeah, but it's, watching the personalities develop is really funny. I remember my son was three, three and a half maybe, and his personality changes all the time, right? Or develops, and I remember like something fell on the cupboard, and my son stops, he was playing with his trains, and he stops, and he looks up and he goes, what was that mysterious sound?

You know, it was like the first at three years old, he said that it was like the first, like, hand that this kid, he's gonna be, you know, he's gonna be able to express himself verbally, you know, in certain ways. I remember thinking like mysterious. Yeah, where'd you come from? Where'd you come from? That's so cool. I know, I, that's what we haven't hit this yet.

Like, that's what I can't wait to see Who does he take after more personality wise like I see it in Justin's kids? I see it in your kids, you know right now It's too early for us to see like is he more like Katrina's you more of me is he the perfect blend I can't lose you guys are both good people This quaz brought to you by organify for those days you fall short on getting your organic veggies or whole food nutrition, Organify fills the gap with laboratory-tested certified organic superfoods to help give your health a performance-the-edit edge. Try Organify totally risk-free for 60 days by going to Organify.com.

That's O-R-G-A-N-I-F-I dot com and use a coupon code mine pump for 20% off at checkout. First question is from Wellner Wellness. Both my husband and I suffer from neck pain and find that bicep work, standard curls, and others aggravate this. Where do some bicep workouts we can do? I love this question because this reminds me of the flack that I got on YouTube in regards to my bicep curl video. Do you remember that? Do your split stance?

Yeah, the split stance. They're giving me shit about that. Yeah, the split stance and then teaching people to pull the shoulders back and then just coming up to full flexion and where your dumbbell is about to your, you know, right about your nipple line or so, and not rotating up, which we know that, you know, full, full range of motion on the bicep,

it requires a little bit of that rolling up of the shoulder. The problem is that this is exactly what I came across with clients. Either one, they would allow the shoulder to take over a lot of the movement and they'd feel it less in their bicep, or it would even aggravate their shoulder because they're in this kind of forward position and then they're moving and rocking up with the bicep curls and then teaching them in more strict form. One, help them feel it in the

bicep more and then two, eliminate things like this. Yeah, well, okay. So the big thing for me when I hear questions like this is, is a reminder that just because an exercise works a particular body part, it does not mean that the rest of the body is not engaged in some way. Right. So a bicep curl, single joint exercise, you're bending the elbow, you're just working on the biceps. Does this mean your core is not involved? Does this mean that your shoulder girdle doesn't have to be stabilized?

Does it mean that your head and neck position are important to pay attention to? If you have a tendency towards neck pain, what a lot of people do with exercises is they either shrug their shoulders a lot with all exercises or they look down or jet their head forward. They head forward, they strain you know out of their neck muscles just by the, you know, grinding their way through the exercise. Yeah, so I would say keep your shoulders down, keep your head straight and tall.

Along gate create some traction in your spine as you're doing your bicep exercise. The other thing I would say is work on your shoulder and upper back mobility. Work on those areas because, if your neck is preventing you from working your biceps, I mean, it's gonna prevent you from doing a lot of things, especially exercises like squats and overhead presses

and deadlift, so I would definitely work on mobility. Now there are also of course supplements that can help with pain and inflammation, although I don't consider these things to be first lines of defense or solutions, they can help. And the way that they tend to benefit is they reduce inflammation,

which then gets you to move better, which then helps you reduce future pain. Because when you have some pain already there, sometimes we protect ourselves with certain positions, helps you reduce future pain because when you have some pain already there, sometimes we protect ourselves with certain positions, which actually contribute to the pain over time. I know Organifi has got a great natural anti-inflammatory supplement called Move. In fact, it has the Zanthan in it.

It has that in there. It does because of its anti-inflammatory. I know. Yeah, properties. It's got a holy basil in there and other products as well. So you could take that and help reduce the inflammation, but you've got to fix your positioning and your mobility. Otherwise, this problem was going to stick around.

Yeah, this was actually a common one I would get from clients doing bicep curls. Primarily, like you had mentioned, the chin kind of tucking down. Because they're trying to concentrate so hard on what their arms are doing and looking down at it. But also if it's a heavy amount of weight where they're grinding their teeth and they're really squeezing and straining a bit in their face, you know, the next not in a favorable position and then they're adding all this extra tension and stress in that area. They ended up getting these tension headaches as a result. If you haven't watched the YouTube video I did on Bicycle Cross. I know it's one of the top 10 or top five videos

that we've done as far as views. It's pretty easy to find on my pump TV YouTube channel. Watch that. If you wanna take it to the next level. So this is where I would love to pull out my PVC pipe. So I would take this person. I would put them in that splits. I would lighten the load, okay.

Especially when we're talking about an isolation exercise. Yeah. You know, pushing yourself towards the highest dumbbells you can curl or easy curl. Yeah, nobody cares. Nobody's bragging about that. Yeah, and not even just nobody cares, but you're not going to get that much more benefit by lifting 10 more pounds than what you could in a bicep. You're going to get better results with more better form.

Right, so lighten the load, you know, watch that video, and then even the next level to that, especially, I think this person said they're working out with their husband, right? So there's two of them working out together. You take the PVC pipe, and you put it behind your partner's back, and you want the back of their nodule of their head touching it. You want their upper shoulder blades touching it and then their low back by their hips touching those are the three points that you do not want to lose contact at all and then perform the movement like I teach it in the YouTube video. That should eliminate a lot of the stress that you're feeling in the neck and in the shoulders.

And again, just focus on form. Remember, we've talked in the previous and in the shoulders. And again, just focus on form. Remember, we've talked in the previous episodes about progressive overload. You can do that by slowing the tempo down. So lighter weight, slow the tempo down, control the exercise, focus more on the bicep. Make sure you're keeping that spine nice and neutral. That's what the PVC pipe is for.

That's why I like the split stance. You can also do that with a wall or a squat rack. I do that sometimes with a squat rack where I place instead of using a PVC pipe, I use one of the bars from the squat rack and I'll put that in the middle of my back or I'll put my back up against the wall. Put your back up against the wall,

keep your shoulder blades hips, tuck the chin. And tuck the chin and put that small nodule at the base of your skull against the wall, keep your shoulder blades hips, tuck the chin and tuck the chin and put that small nodule at the base of your skull against the wall, keep them all in contact. And if you really want to make it straight, keep your elbows in contact with the wall and then do curls. I would recommend that because part of sometimes with the shoulder aggravation is that last bit of flexion that happens in the shoulders engage and that might be aggravating it. Next question is from Rari Walnitz. I just turned 50 this year and I'm an experienced lifter of 25 years.

I have been working out basically the same way as I did when I was 25. Should I be scaling back the reps and volume for heavier weight and lower volume? Or should I be adding more reps and volume? Oh, this, see, I like questions like this because I think sometimes we read what we're supposed to do based off of our age or our sex or whatever, and we think, oh, we start to question, should I do this because I read this article that says it should really be lifting him, right?

Yeah, once you're over 40 that you need to do this or whatever, okay, nothing is above your listening to your individual body. Okay, so I can't answer this question because I'm not in your body. I also don't train you in person. Should you scale back? Well, if you're finding that you're getting more aches and pains in your joints, if you're finding that you're having more trouble recovering, then yeah, you might need to scale back a little bit. There may be some other stuff you can look at as well. Should you increase the volume?

Well, I mean, is it easy? Can you increase the volume and still feel recovered and improve in which case, then increasing the volume is okay? It all depends on your individual body. It also depends on what you're currently doing. So, you know, he says, I'm lifting, what is the same as 25, right?

So, does that mean you're, I'm guessing, because there's an option here to either add volume or add reps or also add weight. I'm assuming you probably fall in the muscle building category of the sticking around eight to 12 rep range. And in that case, either direction is gonna be very beneficial to you because it's gonna be novel.

Going down and remember this too, that heavy at 50 may be different than what heavy at 25 is. So maybe when you were 25, you were deadlifting 400 pounds, that doesn't mean you necessarily have to go that heavy just because you've done it before. Heavy now may be 315 pounds and that's what might be challenging for five reps.

But the value of working down in the three to five rep range, if you never do that, or you haven't done that in years, or even haven't done that in six or eight weeks, that's extremely valuable. Same thing goes for the other direction. If you've been hovering around that eight to 12 rep range, and you haven't moved up to 15 to 20 reps for a phase or a cycle.

That has tremendous value. Not only knowing what this person is feeling and where they're at and what's going on with their body, but also what's going on with their programming. It's not enough information for me to know what they were doing for the last 25 years. Whatever you've been doing, moving away from that is one of the best things that you could possibly do right now. If all things are healthy and fine. I'll tell you what though, if you've been training with traditional resistance training in the gym and you've been doing it that way for 25 years. I'll tell you what, maps performance will blow your way.

It'll completely blow you away because of its emphasis on mobility and because of a lot of the movements are non-traditional in that program. So if you've been doing traditional bench presses and squats and rows and overhead presses, it's kind of the traditional bodybuilding exercises which are great but nothing necessarily wrong with them. If you go to a program like MAV's performance after decades of training a particular way, it will literally blow your mind. I've actually been going through this with my dad who has been doing the same routine after decades of training a particular way, it will literally blow your mind. So go that way.

I've actually been going through this with my dad who has been doing the same routine for about 25, 30 years, similar situation, but as at a point now, we're getting this sort of repetitive stress where it's starting to affect the joints, the knees, the hips, and so for me to now get him moving laterally and twisting is really crucial to fulfill and basically alleviate a lot of the pain of him coming back in and doing these workouts he was doing.

And really changing it up is going to be transformative for him. Well, in the beauty of the programming, like, if you take or you go through mass performances, that we take you through all those phases. So, you're going to go through a strength phase, you'll go through a hypertrophy type of phase and endurance type phase. There's an explosive phase. It's the only program with an explosive phase. Right.

So, you have all the laid out for you. So, you go through all that. And then you just, you modify the weights to where you're at currently right now, but your south right, the different types of movements that are in performance, even if you're somebody who's been training for, you know, traditional weight training. It's foreign enough and novel enough that you're going to see some great results from doing that. You know, it is interesting about this.

People like this though, is that their, your ability to handle work and workouts, it doesn't decline until you're a little older than 50, much older. I mean, if you've ever met a 50-year-old construction worker or a 50-year-old farmer, they will blow your mind how much their bodies can handle. Because they've been doing it for so long, the work capacity is incredible. I've used to help my dad in construction all the time.

And you'd see these, these guys, these men in their 50s who've been doing it since they were teenagers. And you know, here I am, I'm a teenage kid myself. I'm pretty fit and I go and they blow me away. By how much they could wash and do. They're just way more efficient. And they'd whistle while they're doing it. And I have it a good time.

And meanwhile, I'm like sweating my ass off and I can barely breathe. And so you'd be surprised at how long it takes before age starts to especially been doing for 25 years before age starts to force you to have to reduce things. Next question is from Jamil A144. If you had to remove the big three exercises, what could you replace them with that would be comparable? Oh, what are we going to say the big three are a squat dead overhead press? No, well they usually, big three is usually bench press, squat and deadlift, is usually what they say. Maybe we should do four, throw in some overhead press, because that's when I feel like that's a staple. Yeah, so do I. This is easy for me. So back squat, if I had to never do a back squat again, the

exercise I would do as much as a back squat would be a front squat, in my opinion. Oh, I would go Bulgarian. Well, I see the thing is I that's still on the table, but the exercise to replace back squats for me would be front squat. I just feel like it's close enough to providing the benefits of a back squat, although a Bulgarian is pretty damn good. Yeah, I'm trying to think of something because first of all, why would you remove the big three? The only reason why you would remove the big three is maybe you don't have the barbell, right? And so how can I... I think it's just a hypothetical question. Just for shits and giggles, because I mean, if that's the philosophical...

Yeah, if that's a case, then I can get on board a little bit with the front squat, although I still, I, what I experienced, you know, and this was later in my career of really focusing on the Bulgarian split squat, the benefits that I got from that were tremendous. And I saw a lot of carryover into my squat, my leg size, my stability, my hip mobility, from it,

my ankle mobility from it. I just, I prefer that. We're already so anteriorly driven, so doing something like a front squat. When I compare, though, you're looking at the activation of the back, the low back, the ankle mobility, and then, you know, from watching Olympic lifters who are the best front squatters in the world. These guys are front squawting tremendous amounts of weight. And that's what a back squat is great at. A back squat is amazing because you can load the hell out of it. So it makes it one of the best exercises.

I think the front squat is closer to that. Like you can load the hell, you can get really, really good at front squats. Or you can. Well, I've actually seen athletes like really load heavy Bulgarian spots. Yeah, you can get really, really good at front squats. Or you stand on this Justin. Well, I've actually seen athletes like really low heavy Bulgarian squats. Yeah, you can. Yeah, and so it's interesting to speculate about

because if that is like, you prize that as much as a back loaded squat, I've seen athletes actually really take off in their strength gains and their stability simultaneously. So I think that like... From athletic perspective. From athletic perspective. And functional perspective.

Yeah, sure. Yeah, right. So, but I mean, I love the front squat too. It's just, I think that I would probably lean more into Bulgarian. Yeah, all right. So the next exercise would be the deadlift. That's easy for me.

And I don't know if this is cheating, but I do a trap or deadlift. Is that too close? I know, right. Can I pick that?, but I do a trap or deadlift. Is that too close? I know right can I pick that? Yeah, I feel like that's too close isn't too close. Yeah. Yeah. I see I think it's different enough How about a hip thrust for a deadlift? Oh no No, no, I wouldn't do that or or a barbell row. I mean you got to do something you got to we got to do something for You got to pick something up heavy. Yeah. Well, you got to do something for the back, right? So I mean you got to do something for the pick something up heavy. Yeah, well, you got to do something for the back, right?

So, I mean, you got to do a big mover for the back. Yeah, but then they're like, hips, you know, it's, well, yeah, it's quite, it's irreplaceable. If I had to get rid of it, the barbell row, just doing the barbell row, you get some of the glute hip hamstring stabilization to hold that position. So it's not being eliminated. So there's, there's value in doing a 135 bent over row,

your hips are involved, your glutes are involved. They're not moving and they're not flexing, but they're at least in an isometric hold in that position. And you're rowing big weight on your back. I'm just trying to think of right now the strength that you get from a deadlift. You know, obviously, track bar deadlift,

you guys say that's cheating. I can kind of see that, it's so similar. Right. A heavy farmer walks would be up there for me because of the kind of strength that it provides, that's kind of similar to a deadlift. You're right. Yeah, because it's an all-encompassing kind of a strength

that you're getting out from the deadlift like it. So I think that the farmer walk actually does sort of accomplish a similar, you know, type of, you know, body response because you're stabilizing everything at once within your heavy weight, especially if you're like really loading it heavy. I think that's my case for the Benover Barbell row. The Benover Barbell row is going to get the hamstring and glute involved in the stabilization. The lower back is extremely, is in there. Just like a farmer carry, the stabilization that you're getting with heavy load. You do

that with a heavy barbell. You're getting all that in the hips and the hamstrings and then low back. And then in addition to that, you're rowing and getting the lats and rhomboids involved, the barbell row would have to be the exercise. Well, but here's a thing though. It doesn't mean you can't do other back exercises. You know what I'm saying? Like we're replacing the deadlift, but does that mean, okay, so let's say we pick the farmer's walk, that means you can still do pull-ups, you can still do dumbbell rows, you can still do, it's just you never do deadlifts again. Yeah.

That's the question. And if I never did deadlifts again, but I still had access to all these other exercises, the one that I would replace it with and if I can't pick a trap bar, I'm thinking again, farmer walk. I just, just the kind of strength that I get from the deadlift, you know? That's a tough one though. I think that's the hardest one. That is a hard one.

Bench press. Is it cheating if I say incline? Yeah. Inclined press? Or dumbbells? Yeah, I mean, is that cheating? Because I feel like those are great places. Well, you kind of got to remove the barbell, I would think.

You know? Okay. So if we do like dumbbell bench incline, I'll take dumbbell incline bench all day. Or even a dumbbell flat. You know what's funny? Take out the barbell bench press. You're not missing much.

I know. I hate to say it, but if you just never did it, and all you did were dumbbells and incline and dips. You'll be fine. Yeah, you're gonna be okay. You would miss barbell squats and you would definitely miss deadlifts. Now overhead barbell press, I mean again,

what are we gonna say, you know, dumbbell press overhead? It's kind of the same exercise. Well, yeah, you have, because there's nothing that, or at least I'm drawing a blank right now of like getting you in full overhead extension. You can't eliminate that movement. That's such an important movement that you have,

and if you're saying that you can't- It can never do it, you're rude. Yeah, you have to do it. And a front belt raise and that you have. And if you're saying that you can't- You can never do it. Yeah, you have to do it. And a front belt raise and a ladder, none of those come close to that. Like, the handstand pushups not gonna cut it. Yeah. Although, although, that's a good,

actually that would be good. I know, but like you're just dealing with body weight is the only thing. It's definitely very, very challenging. And it sort of, obviously turns it up on its head, right? But yeah, it's a very similar move. I like that. I honestly, that's because I was drawn a blank on,

because I'm looking for something that you're getting, your full extended over your head. That's the, that is the most important part for everybody, why that movement belongs and every routine is because we lose that. Just very of all the things too, that's up there with the things that I think we lose the fastest. That's why I used to see in my older clients. It was one of the number one, aside from not being able to squat,

not being able to do the posture, they couldn't reach straight up above them. Not even older. I found this in myself. That was one of the limiting factors why I didn't do overhead press. I mean, I was in my 20s and I already had to arch my low back to get full extension. I mean, we were just so all rounded, right? We're all so forward.

We're always reaching in front. Yeah, and if you're not training that, it's really, really tough for you to try and get that back. And it takes a lot of work to get back to that place. So, yeah, Justin, I actually think the old standing actually does make sense. I can't think of anything else that would incorporate it. Is it kettlebell overhead press count?

Or is that still enough? Yeah, and see my brain would go more for the spiral line type of press with the kettlebell just because it's a different load, but it's more favorable functional. I like the kettlebell overhead press more than dumbbell overhead press. I mean, if you asked me five years ago, I would have never said that. But I know that I've done them enough. You're overhead carries. Overhead carries. Over years ago, I would have never said that, but I'd know that I've done them enough. You're overhead carries.

Overhead carries. Overhead carries with kettlebells, it'd be sure. I do those a lot with my son, you know that, because that full extension is such a difficult thing. So we just practice walking with the single dumbbell or two dumbbells overhead. Great exercise. And it keeps that full extension. Now we're re-emphasizing the importance of that so your body is gonna be able to keep that.

After writing strong and training strong too, I became a huge fan of circus presses. That was not like ever a common movement for me. I love that. I was doing them just the other day again. That exercise, you get to use a little bit of body English to get the weight up there so I can go over and highlight.

And when I think about it, like you would kind of get like to get a weight up there so I can go or and when I think about it, you would kind of get to get a really heavy weight up over your head. You would kind of throw it up. And you would kind of use whatever leverage you could to push over your head. You wouldn't have this strict perfect form. It's a fun exercise. It's a fun exercise. It's a good exercise. I feel a lot of core stability in there. A lot of shoulder stability in there. That's up there with one of my favorites.

Next question is from Coach Carruthers. What were some of the resources you read or studied that had an impact on your current programs? Oh my gosh, so here's the thing. We, maps at a ball I created, what was it back in what, 2013? 13, okay. And then mass performance and aesthetic and split and stront all the other programs We all created together what went into writing those programs?

Decades of experience between all of us. So you're looking at you know 60 years of experience if we don't even count Doug you can throw in another 20 years on top of it. You know, with all the studies. With all the certification. With study, certifications, with reading, with training, so many different clients and training ourselves, that's what went into the programs. So if I listed all the stuff that I read. But not only that, I know where this person is going

like with this, like, oh, you guys, the way you have your frequency or the choices of exercises, like what studies led to that? And it wasn't a study that led to any one of those single decisions in ACI concepts. Yes. I think it's all these concepts that we were exposed to, we tried with our clients, we saw successes by doing certain methods that we'd learned and gone through certification courses and things. And we're like, I really like this for this specific reason. And so I would take certain types of mobility moves and be like, this is gonna be a great assessment.

So I would look at things like that as I was going through these courses. So yesterday I get a DM from someone. So I guess Mike Matthews, good friend of ours, right? Owns the supplement company Legion, also writes some good fitness books. Knows this stuff, Mike Matthews is one of company Legion, also writes some good fitness books. Knows this stuff. Mike Matthews is one of the better,

I'd say fitness authorities that there are today. But Mike Matthews interviewed, what's his name? Menno Helmismen, I don't know how to say his name. Anyways, I think this guy does lots of studies in training for people all the time. He was on his podcast and the debate was

full body workouts versus body parts splits. Now we know Mike Matthews, a big fan of body parts splits, Mehno is full body. And if you ask a lot of coaches and trainers who've trained a lot of people over a long period of time, they say full body. So I get this DM and he's like, you know, I love Mike and I love you and you guys are so smart.

But you know, Mike, he leans more towards splits and why does he do that when you guys are always talking about full body? And I said, look, I said, Mike is extremely knowledgeable, very smart. Like I reads everything and he knows how to disseminate it and break down the studies and pick what is actually working. What's not working. Now we've done that as well, but we also combine that with lots of experience training, lots and lots of people. And that's why we get the, lots and lots and lots of people, and that's why we get the best way.

Before we have our opinion. There's a behavioral component in all of our decisions. When I think about the core, at the end of the day, it's what works. When I think of the core principles of the programming that we've done, obviously, all the research around periodization. So if you read all the research around periodization,

you'll get the understanding of why we phase the workouts. If you read all the research on the exercises that are the most valuable, the biggest bang for your buck, to show the most results, everything from CNS to building muscle, to burning fat, to burning calories, you'll see why we picked all the exercises. So the core of all of our programs. And then after that, then we have taken an account, then frequency would be another one, right? All the studies that are around frequency in the port of time.

Tempo, you know, so those, those, those to me are like the really good as far as like the research right is there then after that then we all sit here and we go back and forth on what we've seen you know and we and we take an account like that so something some study might say oh this is the best for this but then we go well wait second, how many of the clients did you ever train? Stuck to that for longer than two weeks. Yeah, that never works. Right, exactly. And how do those flow together in the workout? Because, you know, everything written on paper is completely different than actually applying it

in person watching somebody go through it. Yeah, I'll make a silly example. Let's say a study comes out tomorrow and it says, you know, cardio at 4am, fasted for 45 minutes, burned 15% more fat than cardio at any time, any other times of day. And then you get the research junkies will come out and be like,

this is how you should do cardio. This is what I prescribe. 45 minutes at 4am, because here's what the study said. Me as a trainer is gonna say, don't do that. I've never said, had any client that's ever done 45 minutes of cardio at 4am every single day. Forever. Just doesn't work. So.m. every single day forever. Just doesn't work.

Right. They're not going to do it forever. Yeah, so it's not worth the 15% because you're going to get 0% because you're never going to do it. That's a silly example. Another good example is what you're talking about with the body parts split versus the full body argument. We just, we talk about it at Nazium on this podcast and it's because the reality of it is nobody ever trains like a perfect study does, where you don't miss anything, you go perfect, you measure at the volume,

everything's all, no, everybody, very few people are doing that. Most people are going how they feel. Most people have shit that happens, they get sick, they miss a day. And so you have to factor all that in and consistency with whatever they're gonna do is really important. So if you have somebody who's on a body part split

and they're like 80% of the population who goes consistent for a couple weeks or maybe in a couple months and then falls off the wagon and then comes back, what you've ended up finding out is like over the course of months and years somebody who follows a full body routine ends up hitting the muscle groups more frequently

which ends up giving them more results in the big picture, not just in a six week study. And it's also this other factor that nobody ever considers, which is just the practice, the practice of the same exercises over and getting good at them. That's when it makes them so effective, full body workouts, do that. So I'm going to list certain books that have been more influential than others. Now as a kid, I read all the magazines. When I say all, I literally, I mean, I had my first job that I was working with my dad

at the age of 13, and then I got jobs at restaurants after that washing dishes. And I literally subscribed to Ironman, Muscle and Fitness, Flex Magazine, Muscle Mag, Muscle Media 2000, and I think that's, I had five muscle magazine subscriptions. So I read all of them all the time. Those had a lot of influence, and although they were big pamphlets to sell supplements essentially, there was some articles in there that were pretty smart, and so I did learn

some stuff. Arnold Schwarzenegger's Encyclopedia Bodybuilding. Very, very impactful because it literally listed all of the, definitely all of the free weight exercises for every body part. So I learned all the exercises that you could do with free weights at a very young age from that book because I was able to study it. Mike Mencer's Heavy Duty was another book that had a huge impact mainly because he positioned an argument which was, hey, if you do way less volume, do more intensity, you'll get the

same results. Now, it's not what he said was in 100% correct, but it did get me to question certain things and look at the way that I would design my workouts. Dinosaur training was another book that I learned a lot from. And then old publications, I'm talking about turn of the century, like first, the strong man of, you know, the early 1900s, you know, watching how they worked out. And you know, your Charles Atlas is and all those.

Yeah. I was totally, you know, researching all that stuff too. Like I loved old strength journals and ways that, like, people did it back in the day before, you know, we had this, this surge of, like, antibiotics, steroids and different ways of, you know, organizing the gym with machines. It's like, what are we used to do?

And so I got into that, I got into Dr. Ed Thomas' work. He was really like, movement focused, great cook, you know, Eric Cressy, you know, like lots of the sports specific type trainers out there that put out really good information. So one of another one was super training by Mel Sif, which is where they've finally got information about everything, you know, from, you know, Russian studies. And, you know, it's just stuff like that. If you look towards your interest,

and so obviously I had an interest in movement and specifically in athletic pursuits. Well, another area that we none of us mentioned right now that is taking into consideration all the programs is like mobility and movement. So like books like Supple Lepard or Certifications like Ken Stretch or Al Dowa or FRC, things like that are also taking into consideration

when we're one more program because it's not just about the X's and O's on everything that's also about just learning to teach people to move better and all the deficiencies and dysfunction that we saw for all those years. So things like that are taking into consideration when we choose certain exercise or exercise order because we know the habits and behaviors of people.

So, yeah. And here's what else is really cool is that, you know, and I loved it when I met Adam and Justin because I had met two other fanatics about fitness that were similar to my level of fanaticism. They would look at some different things, but they studied it with the same level of passion. And so what you get is you get, sometimes people get stuck at just listening to advice

from one type of strength athlete, like bodybuilder or powerlifter or yoga expert. One thing that I did is, and I did this later on, and I was so impactful, was I studied how powerlifters trained. And then I studied how Olympic lifters trained. And then I studied how Olympic lifters trained. And then I'd read about kettlebell type training. And then I'd read about martial arts and calisthenics type training. And all of this, you get all these nuggets of wisdom

from these old forms of training. Powerlifting's been around for a long time. So is bodybuilding, so is Olympic lifting, kettlebell training even longer. You're going to get aspects and things that you can learn from each of them, apply to your training. What you see in our programs is a culmination of, it's like our programs, and although all of them are designed for specific avatars, like for example, maps, performance, build muscle,

but move well. We'd like to use the ancient athlete as the avatar. But what you really have are the mixed martial arts of muscle building programs. We picked the best from each category and injected what worked so well in each category. And so we end up with as a very well balanced body that builds muscle avoids plateaus

and it feels phenomenal. I also feel like we broke down a lot of barriers that we saw. I remember this was a lot of the motivation on the podcast is, you know, to your point, Sal about how we tend to gravitate towards, you know, one professional or one expert in a field, and then we marry that ideology.

And then what the fitness space does is they separate everybody and it's, my way is better than your way, because that's what makes- A little versus. Yeah, because that's all versus. Yeah, because that's what sells better, right? I'm trying to sell my ideas that my way of training or my modality is better than your modality. And just the three of us didn't subscribe to that belief.

Because we had so much experience in all different aspects, we studied all different ways of training, we saw the value of all of it. And it wasn't like, oh, this guy is more right than that guy. It's like, no, they're all right in their own right. And there's something to take from all of those. And really, when you look at the entire collection of all the maps programs, they are. There's pieces of all of that in every one of those programs because none of us subscribed to one ideology. It's like, you know, like, you know, Bruce Lee was quite a bit of a philosopher when it came to martial arts and he was one of the first martial artists to say, here's what Kung Fu does

and that's really well. Oh, look at the way that boxers dance in their footwork and look how they use the jab and look how wrestlers change levels and are able to control a fight on the ground. Look at submissions and leverage and all that stuff. And I mean, all of those things make you a really good fighter, right? So that's really the big thing that you wanna take out of this. Even if your goal is just to build a lot of muscle,

man, you don't think power lifters build muscle or Olympic lifters build muscle or kettlebell, athletes build muscle. You don't think mobility helps you build muscle or Olympic lifters, build muscle or kettlebell. Athletes build muscle. You don't think mobility helps you build muscle. All those things contribute to better performance and better results. So, studying all of those things, I think that's gone into each and every maps program. MindPump is recorded on video as well as audio.

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