Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1378: How to Increase Your Deadlift Strength, Squats & Spine Compression, Soreness as an Indicator of Workout Effectiveness & More

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Starting point is 00:00:38 By the way, if you want to fast forward to your favorite part where we answer a question or talk about something you're interested in, it's not your favorite part. Go to mindpumppodcast.com, everything is timestamped. But if you want to have the full experience, start from the beginning. So here's the breakdown. We open up by talking about master works. That's something that Adam talked about, brought up.

Starting point is 00:00:58 Then I talked about the tulip bubble and the cannabis market. So Adam's speculating on the cannabis market and it kinda reminded me of the tulip bubble of little bit random. Denmark a long time ago, I know it's weird. Then I talk about making sauce with the family over the weekend. Those of you that are Italian and listening to this podcast, you know every year right around Labor Day,

Starting point is 00:01:19 you get together in the hot sun and you make a bunch of jars of sauce. It's about to the sass. That's what I did. Then we talked about some shows on Netflix away, seems to be a great show. And then there's a show on prime, or a documentary on prime about Robin Williams

Starting point is 00:01:32 called Robin's Wish, Adam highly recommended that. Then Justin talked about walking the creek and finding a floating surprise with his family all the weekend. Then I talked about the Nickers bar. A website article about the healthiest cereals out there, magic spoon was listed on there. Magic spoon has no sugar, very low carb, high in protein.

Starting point is 00:01:56 It's got way protein in the cereal, and it tastes amazing, and when you compare to the other cereals on that list that are red. It's way better. It's way better. I can't even believe that they're in the same category. I just caught that. That's pretty good.

Starting point is 00:02:08 That was slow, so. By the way, Magic Spoon is a sponsor of ours, so because you listen to Mind Pump, you get a discount. So if you want to try out their no sugar, high protein, delicious flavored cereal, they have like fruit flavors, they have berry flavored, peanut butter flavored chocolate, a lot of different flavors. Here's what you do.

Starting point is 00:02:26 Go to magicspoon.com, forward slash mind pump. And oh, there's also a 100% happiness guarantee. If you don't like the box, return it, get a full refund. Then I talked about another company we work with, public goods. This is a company that provides you with products for skin, hair, cleaning products, household products. products for skin, hair, cleaning products, household products, all at wholesale prices, all of them healthy, minimal chemicals, the containers that they're in are eco-friendly. It's a great company, and they just got funding because they're blowing up.

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Starting point is 00:03:20 Oh, San Francisco. Oh my God. You guys keep pissing us off. Yes. Then Justin talked about his wasp trap that he made with a bowl of waters, some soap, and meat. Hillbilly ideas. And it worked.

Starting point is 00:03:32 Then we got into the fitness question. So that's about 32 minutes long. Then here's the questions. The first one, what are the best three or four exercises you can do to get your deadlift strength to go up? The next question, this person's dad went to the doctor and the doctor said, hey, don't squat. It compresses your spine, instead do the leg press.

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Starting point is 00:04:34 at mapsfitnisproducts.com. The third question, this person says, look, if I'm not sore, does that mean I need to do more in my workout? And the final question, this person wants to know what our best financial advice is for newlyweds. Again, one more deal house. One more time, I wanna mention that site,

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Starting point is 00:05:06 MapsFitnessProducts.com. Do you have any friends or anybody that does? I do have friends. No, you don't. That's why. That's a big deal. That's a big deal. We both know that.

Starting point is 00:05:15 You guys are my friends. Well, I guess you pay us though. You know what I'm saying? It's different. We're forced to be here. Yeah, it's different. Hooker friends. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:05:23 Do you guys have any friends that do master works? Have you heard of that before? It's like a way you can invest in paintings. Are you familiar with this? Doug, if you familiar with this, you're a little more artsy than these two. No, not familiar. You're not.

Starting point is 00:05:36 Are you gonna fall for another get rich quick scheme? No, I mean, if I don't fall for those things, I'm fucking allergic to that. I don't know anything about paintings. There's value or anything. I'm fucking allergic to that. I don't know anything about paintings. There's all you or anything. It's so misdefining. So there's like a stock market for paint, for like, you know, old-ass, you know, million dollar,

Starting point is 00:05:53 multi-million dollar paintings. Do they have like a becket or whatever? Yeah, and you can buy shares. It's called, are you looking it up right now, Doug? Yeah, it's kind of cool. Like, it's called Masterworks. I think Masterworks is the name of it it and it works like a stock market very similar And you can buy shares of of this like well, you can actually have be partial of a painting. Yeah, that's worth millions of dollars

Starting point is 00:06:14 And so it's there's like this stock market for paintings and in fact It continues to go it doesn't fall and they say that one of the things that's great about is it's It continues to go it doesn't fall and they say that one of the things that's great about is it's Say for bet then like the real the stock market. I don't know about that. What about if it gets burned? We're like, you know, you know, I'm sure there's insurance Yeah, well anything with demands gonna have value right, but you gotta be careful like you guys ever heard of the tulip crash Back in I think it wasn't where was that? Doug Yeah, you hear about this?

Starting point is 00:06:45 At one point, the Toulips, the value of Toulips went through the roof for some reason, and people were using this currency, and then the market got flooded with Toulips and it crashed and people lost fortunes. Do you ever hear about this? No. This is a real thing.

Starting point is 00:06:57 They're trading Toulips. Look it up, Doug, pull it up on the interwebs. This is a little different, because Picasso can't paint anymore paintings. Yeah, that's true. So, it's going to continue to hold its value or go up in value, but it's a lot different. Because you can keep growing the tulip first. So, these owners that are just now making it a public so people could buy shares of it

Starting point is 00:07:19 or just... I'm not even fully aware of exactly. That's why I was curious if you guys had heard of it because I was reading an article. It was the Dutch tulip bulb market. It was a bubble. Dude, I feel like that's a little... I mean, I'm listening. Yeah, it's like, who's like, yeah, sounds like a good idea.

Starting point is 00:07:34 I mean, here's, you know, speaking of weird plant bubbles, I'm tripping out right now. Here's some marijuana news for you guys right now. The marijuana market right now is exploding right now. And the prices are higher than when I entered it over 10 years ago. How's that possible? I write.

Starting point is 00:07:52 So what happens I think? This is my theory. And I don't know and somebody can DM me and they correct me if they think I'm wrong. But don't waste your time unless you're fucking right for sure. I hate when people speculate. I don't have time for you.

Starting point is 00:08:04 400 speculations. And in count really real quick when people speculate. I don't have time for you. 400 speculations. And in count really real quick. In other words, don't message it. So here's my theory on that. And I'm totally disconnect. So recently I've been talking to some good friends that are still in that space. And I always inquire, hey, how things go on?

Starting point is 00:08:19 What's going on with that? Because I feel like I exited the market at the right time. Like I rode the wave, did well, and then laughed and was over it. But out of nowhere, the prices for, and the way you kind of tell, like what's going on in the market is the price per pound. Like what does it cost for a pound of exotic, really good weed?

Starting point is 00:08:39 And when I was leaving, you could get the best stuff on the market wholesale. If you went directly to a farmer, you could get it for 21, 22, you know, around there. Yeah, 2200 a pound. Now, was that on the actual tax market or was that off? Yeah, no, that's going directly to a farmer. Okay. That's going directly to a grower, somebody who is growing hundreds of pounds and wholesale. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's not most people aren't seeing that retail that's getting pumped, but that's still pretty low.

Starting point is 00:09:09 When I first entered, it was like $3,000. $3,000 for a pound, and then people obviously take it to clubs, and then they break it down, and they sell it, and then that pound ends up being worth $5,500 or more, right, when it's broken down. So anyways, it started at about 3,000 when I entered over 10 years ago, and then on the way out, it was down to like 2,000, a 2200 a pound. There's now stuff going for 3,500 to 4 grand a pound.

Starting point is 00:09:35 Whole sales, same thing. Whole sale. Now, is it because... Oh, sorry. I didn't finish my theory. So my theory is that as I was going out, it was becoming more and more legalized. So it's become so legal. We kind of speculated on this, my buddies who stayed in it, we thought, I said the only chance that this has

Starting point is 00:09:53 to still be okay for the farmer or the guy like you that's brokering stuff, the clubs, is if the market gets so saturated that clubs start getting a bunch of fucking garbage And that's what's kind of happened is everybody now because now everyone's not afraid to grow anymore Back when I was in it was still sketchy and gray market So you had a very small pool of people that were growing for the masses We're now it's like everybody in their sister

Starting point is 00:10:21 grows six plants in their backyard to supply themselves or try to make a little side money and supply a club. So because of that, the market and then it became a race to the bottom. Everybody's like, oh, you can uphound for what? 1500? Oh, a pound for 1200? Oh, a pound for 1000? So it became like this race to the bottom and just a flooding of marijuana everywhere. Now what you see, all these strains that are at,

Starting point is 00:10:45 what the prices that I'm saying, 3,500, even some crazy ones around four, are all strains I'm unfamiliar with. They're like completely, so they're exotic new crossbreeds that are exotic strains that only like your master growers are able to grow and get their hands on, either the seeds or the strains.

Starting point is 00:11:04 And so it's now created a connoisseur market. are able to grow and get their hands on either the seeds or the strains. And so it's now created a connoisseur market. So for someone like me who I don't, that's what I'm used to smoking. And if I go to a club right now, I get this B-grade terrible weed. So if I want the primo shit, I gotta go back and spend top dollar now for this stuff. So is it is a pound of cannabis from the farm that is not you know premier right just your run-of-the-mill pound of cannabis has that price changed? Oh yeah that's like through the floor. Okay so that's yeah I then what you're saying is probably it then.

Starting point is 00:11:37 Yeah yeah so when I when I was so I had I had outdoor it's like Kobe beef versus, you know, brown beef. Yeah, I had outdoor and indoor, and my outdoor when I was on my way out, I was still getting, but I had like super top notch stuff for outdoor, like we took really good care of everything, right? So it was like, we were getting 1500, but those same pounds now are going for $600. Wow. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:12:01 Is dabbing still a thing? Oh my God. So how do you turn, you you turn a substance that isn't super dangerous into like, it's like the myth of cannabis. Yeah. How do you make it so addictive essentially and really bad? Oh, I don't know. I just never seen like, you know, all these Instagram people

Starting point is 00:12:18 coming around with like dabbing and just like acting like zombies. Oh, that's, I've never tried it. I've never tried it and I have no desire to even try that. It's not for people like us. You and I, even me, right? So I probably, I have three of us I smoked the most. But even then, it's not like,

Starting point is 00:12:36 I don't smoke throughout the day and shit. It's like, not even every day of the week, I probably every other day have something right before bed. And it's so, you know, like taking something like that, like you have to be like a chronic smoker to wanna move up to dabbing because it's just, it's 10x, the strength. It's great when I can't connect.

Starting point is 00:12:54 Why don't they get the motivation? Yeah, it's like, yeah. You don't normally, they don't have motivation. I think you believe in you. Let's take it by my brother, like thinks he's like super motivated. So I need more. Yeah, I don't know, bro.

Starting point is 00:13:04 I think you're chill. Yeah. Yeah, I think, maybe we just get some snacks. He's like super moaning. I need more. I don't know, bro. I think you're chill. Yeah. Yeah, I think you. Maybe we just get some snacks. He's like dude, you understand. Yesterday I wrote down five business ideas and check it out. And you know, catch up. Cereback.

Starting point is 00:13:16 That's kind of weird. Yeah. Top ramen, you know, half servings for kids. I don't know. How did you guys beat the heat this weekend? Oh, oh my god. I was in two different pools, man, each day. No, I don't know how you guys beat the heat this weekend. Oh, oh my god. I was in two different pools, man, each day. No, I didn't. So this, so every year, I've talked about this, you know,

Starting point is 00:13:30 past few years, every year, right around Labor Day is when we do, when we make our sauce. This is a big thing with Italian families. It's the sauce. Everybody gets the the my dad went and got 900 pounds of tomatoes. That's crazy It's we go anywhere between 800 to 1200 pounds is usually what we do and get thrown by tomatoes. What is that fit in? He has a work van. Oh, okay, so he fills the whole back one of those creeps. You have one's your vans Yeah, except big No windows you can fit three people in the back Oh, good long long-haired personal. Yeah, no windows or anything on the sides. Yeah, it's exactly what it looks like.

Starting point is 00:14:08 Yeah. But it's funny when I used to work with him as a kid. He had an older work van before and this is how I was back in the day. It only has two seats in the front, but he'd take me to work. And his worker, his helper would be on the other side. I see like on a milk crate. Milk crate. My dad literally made a wood box for me to sit on and my seat belt was a rope.

Starting point is 00:14:27 Like why? Why you bother? I mean, so I just, it was a rope that I hooked around like this bolt. Yeah. Oh my gosh. I should drive with it. The visibility is horrendous.

Starting point is 00:14:37 Oh, dude. Try backing up with it. Bro, he would load it. When I would work with him, he would load it with so much sand and cement or whatever, that the back man, I was like, there was no room. Yeah, and if he hit a bump, he'd have to go over it slowly, just to bring, you know, we're gonna crash. But anyway, he filled the back up with just boxes of tomatoes. And so we get there, and of course, it's the hottest day of the year. In the way it works,

Starting point is 00:15:02 you have- Have you thought about changing this tradition to like a more like- No. of a year. In the way it works, you have. Have you thought about changing this tradition to like a more like- No. A more reasonable time of year. This is the best time- So it's not just my family, by the way. Now I'm starting to see people posted on Instagram.

Starting point is 00:15:11 I'm seeing lots of people who are posting that they're making sauce. So is this like- I was like thinking about that. That was a great idea. Yeah, is this like the tomatoes with the ripus and this is the best time to get it? It's always the best time.

Starting point is 00:15:24 Right around now is the best time to do it. So you don't really have an option. You can't be doing this in time. Yeah, like a specific farm, you guys always use. My dad drives down to Gilroy and he'll go to farms, find the best ones and they'll sell them. But you know what they've used to do back in the day? So think about this, 900 to 1200 pounds of tomatoes.

Starting point is 00:15:41 Back in the day, and I can kind of remember this, I was really young when they stopped doing this. We used to have to go and pick them. So part of the process was you went and then you pay the farmer and they'd let you pick your own tomatoes. So that was a whole day, a whole day, everybody. I mean, you let me work, yeah.

Starting point is 00:15:58 Exactly. Thanks. And you just pick all the things. Here's money. But now he gets to go, buys the boxes, brings them back. So we get there and he has the garage set up He's got the tomato machine where You put the cut. I'll tell you guys the process. Okay, so on the side of the yard

Starting point is 00:16:11 We have the boxes of tomatoes and then we have four big bins full of water Okay, and what you do is you transfer them to one bin swirl them around kind of wash them transfer them to the next bin So you go three or four bins until they get to the cleanest bin. Then what you do is you got to cut them in half. So you got to cut all the tomatoes in half, then you bring them inside. He takes the half, cut in half tomatoes, puts them in this huge metal pot over a burner, and you cook them and cook them until they kind of break down. Then you take that and you bring it over to this machine that every, you know, first, first, second generation American

Starting point is 00:16:49 from Italian immigrants has in their garage at Guarante, where you put the tomatoes in there, you push them down, it spits out the sauce, and then the other end is the seeds and the skin that comes out. So you put it through the machine, then you take that, you jar them, then you take jars and then you boil the then you take jars, and then you boil the

Starting point is 00:17:05 jars to seal the jar. So this is a whole process. So we all go there, and this time it's me and my cousins, and we're all, we got everything open, and you know, what's the temperature? Because it was like 113 up where I was in the garage. It was with a flame thing going on. Over 120. Yes, easy. Yeah. We're sweating, we're hot, poor Jessica. She's pregnant. She's trying to help, and to- Oh, we're 120. Yes, I'm easy. Yeah. We're sweatin', we're hot, poor Jessica. She's pregnant, she's trying to help, and she's just, she's just dying. Yeah, at one point, she goes inside, you know. Bro, wife gets a pass on that one.

Starting point is 00:17:32 I told her, she wants to go sit on the lady. She wants, it's such a great tradition, because we all see each other, and now it's not my parents' house, because my grandparents are old, and I told my parents, when you guys are done with this, I'll make sure to maintain this tradition, but I'm gonna do a different, this stays in here but I'm gonna get a

Starting point is 00:17:47 fucking air-conditioned warehouse. I'm gonna rent a warehouse every year. What's the point of making good money if you can't do shit like that? In fact I'm not only gonna have a warehouse I'm gonna hire workers to do it. We're all just gonna show up and eat lunch. Yes, I have some drinks. So I'm watching on fold out chairs. Have a beer and talk about it. Just supervising. I've never really used to pick the tomatoes. Yeah, I've never used to.

Starting point is 00:18:07 It talked about stories and memories. Oh, do the memories. You know, the machine that we put the tomatoes through used to be done with a hand crank. I remember that where the kids were the ones cranking. I love that. Do you know that Gilroy Selenist area is like one of the best places in the country to grow tomatoes, you know that? Yeah, really.

Starting point is 00:18:21 I didn't know garlic, of course. Well, they have a- Well, the have a temperature. Yes, the temperature is, so I didn't know that I, Salinas is actually like, which we consider Salinas kind of like the armpit of the Bay Area, but it's for like, for farming, it's the temperature like,

Starting point is 00:18:37 it's one of, cause of the fog rolling over. San Diego, Salinas, and I forget what the third one is, we've gone down to Salinas for tomatoes. Yeah, it's the best like, temperature year round. Yeah, I don't say I have a Salinas, do I was the third one is. We've gone down to Salinas for tomatoes. Yeah, it's the best, like, temperature year round. Yeah, I don't say about Salinas. Do I as a first gym I manage? I know, but it's true though, right? And what would everyone think of that gym?

Starting point is 00:18:52 Yeah, but I loved it. Dude, the people in Salinas were so great when I managed that gym. I felt like I was like the mayor of the town. Because it's a small town, you know? Yeah. Everyone's like, oh, you managed the gym, or what? Mayor's out. But anyway, it was a lot of fun.

Starting point is 00:19:03 We did the whole thing. We jared them all, finished the whole thing. So now we got sauce for the gym, or what? Mayor Sal. But anyway, it was a lot of fun. We did the whole thing. We jarred them all, finished the whole thing. So now we got sauce for the next year, whatever. But it's funny because my cousins, they're all either newly married or engaged. And so their wives or fiances, this is like the first or second time they've been a part of this thing.

Starting point is 00:19:19 And they're so, it's funny seeing outside people coming in. Because when I was a kid, I hated it. I was like, oh, we gotta go make sauce. Like I'm gonna go and cut tomatoes and wash tomatoes and be hot. But then as you get older, you start to appreciate what you took for granted. And it tastes better. And there are fiancee and wives when they show up they're like, this is the most amazing thing ever.

Starting point is 00:19:38 I love this. I can't wait to do this next year. And you know, you hear them from the outside and you're like, oh yeah, it is. You know, it is kind of awesome. But as a kid I'll say. So how do you decide who gets how many jars is it only the people that come and help in the family or does you distribute throughout the whole family? We distribute through the whole family and we don't have enough space for everybody to come help, it would be impossible. So some people don't come that's okay they get jars, not a big deal.

Starting point is 00:20:04 So everybody gets charged. People, usually my parents and my aunt will be the ones that contribute to the cost. But think about, look, it's about four or 500 bucks for the whole operation. That's it. And that's, you're talking about 900 pounds of tomatoes worth of sauce.

Starting point is 00:20:18 Yeah. That's not bad. No, that's not bad. I told my parents we got a business. A secret little, you know, edition at the end. No, we can sell these jar for five bucks, we'll be all right. That's what I'm wondering, I'm wondering like how much money you actually probably save.

Starting point is 00:20:29 I mean, as a family, you gotta save a ton. Four, five hundred bucks is not very much. It's not just the saving of the money. Of course, I know that. If you eat real sauce, it's, or like they say in the East Coast gravy, which I don't like, but whatever, that's your thing. It's fresh, it's light.

Starting point is 00:20:44 It's not, you know, it doesn't have a bunch of stuff in it. You eat a bowl of pasta and you feel good. You don't feel like you got to take a nap because it's full of all kinds of crap. Like Americans make tomato sauce, like pizza sauce. It's too much stuff in it. It's supposed to be very light, but I sound like such a...

Starting point is 00:21:00 The latest dish. No, that's a tomato snub. A sauce snub. Oh, dude, just the best shirt you have. You won the shirt award. Thank you. Yeah, I totally, I mean, you inspire me with certain shirts you've been wearing lately

Starting point is 00:21:12 and I was like, I gotta represent, you know, a little bit, you know, get people to watch this movie. I gotta run it right now. I gotta rewatch it. Where did you get that you just find it online? You know, there's this cool website. It's like 80s T's or something and I got like another one of my Star Wars shirts

Starting point is 00:21:27 from there too. And I was like, man, they just have like really good throwback stuff. And you know, of course that's my jam. You know, that's what I'm always talking about. I finally got to the bar fight on Cobra. Oh, to eight. Did you not get so high?

Starting point is 00:21:39 I'll like it. You know, I was a punch air. I only get to give out what's sad standing up in the living room. Katrina, because I told Katrina the story ahead of time. I'm like, I'm waiting for this scene. I only could think about what Sal's standing up in the living room, because I had told Katrina the story ahead of time. I'm like, I'm waiting for this scene. I don't know where it's gonna come,

Starting point is 00:21:48 but there's a scene where they get in a bar fight, all the co-brokai guys, and Sal supposedly got up and was in his living room throwing punches. So. I did. I did. Yeah, so I fired up. So it came and I was like, oh,

Starting point is 00:22:02 did Nick get you excited though? Oh, yeah, yeah. I bet I ruined it by testing to send anything. Yeah, you probably should have said when they went to the bar I thought in my head. I was like oh, I bet they're gonna Of course, I mean I knew I knew it was a scene right right away because you said something so I was like so I obviously Probably killed that a little. Oh, I so so speaking to old movies. It's funny though by the way How they live is trending big time right now? I didn't know it was I just did I People are posting like crazy, but I was talking about

Starting point is 00:22:26 a while back and then I was like, oh my God, I gotta watch this and I watch it and get all into it again. So I can't, I'm gonna watch it with my son, because we're right now, we're on a streak of watching old movies and so far, I am so proud of my kid, like he loves all of them. Nice, yeah. I'm sitting there waiting for his reaction

Starting point is 00:22:41 and he, so we watched the original Total Recall with Arnold. You know what, the storyline on that's pretty damn smart. Yeah, when you I watch it again I you know You know went through the whole thing and now as an adult I'm like this is a good story But the the two parts he loves the most are the lines that Arnold says when he kills someone you know I mean where he's oh yeah, he always says this is got the drill and he's drilling the guy and he's like screw you And there's a and then of course, you remember the scene in total. What scene do you think stood out the most to my 15? Three moves.

Starting point is 00:23:12 Yeah. So I go there, you know, the rest. The last part was the girl with three breasts. Oh, yeah. You never heard that song. No, I did it. No problem. That's a great one.

Starting point is 00:23:24 It's a good song. Hey, speaking of it. No problem. That's a great one. It's a good song. Hey, speaking of TV, I have a couple of ones for you. So there's a new show training on Netflix right now called Away. Almost didn't watch it. Yeah, we've been watching that. Yeah, oh, did you start it? Oh, good. What'd you think?

Starting point is 00:23:37 I liked it. Yeah, no, it's cool. Oh, I saw this picture of it. It's better than naked and afraid because it's like, I don't know. I mean, obviously they're not there with a crew or anything and it's just about like them trying to like every day having to get food and survive and it's not like there's no drama or fluff. I mean, there's drama just because it's like crazy conditions, but yeah, it was interesting

Starting point is 00:23:58 to see everybody deal dealt with it. I almost watched that last night. I'll check it out. No, that one's good. And then I want, I also watched Robyn's Wish, which is Robyn Williams' documentary. Did you guys know, how much do you know about his suicide and everything like that?

Starting point is 00:24:12 Did you guys read much about it? No, not much. I just need his really depressed. Okay, so you have to watch Robyn's wish then, because a lot of people, this documentary is a lot of people that were really close to him finally coming out and speaking out about what was really going on. So there's like a big secret nobody?

Starting point is 00:24:29 Yeah, so dude, he was battling this type of dementia. It's called Dewey's Dementia or something. Maybe Doug can look up the condition in, but it's a really rare degenerate neurological condition and he didn't even know that he was suffering from that. And so they talk about the last movie, the last shows he was doing, and talking about his brilliance,

Starting point is 00:24:52 and then watching it kind of deteriorate, and then him struggling with that, not understanding what was going on with him. They couldn't figure it out because all those other health markers seem to be fine. And so it's really fucking sad, but it's also like, you guys said exactly what I thought, too, like, oh, he was depressed.

Starting point is 00:25:09 Oh, Louis body disease. Yes, that's what it was. Not doing. So when did they actually diagnose that, though? Not until late? After his death. So they did it. Aw, that's insane.

Starting point is 00:25:17 That's why you got to watch it because nobody knew this when it first happened, when it first happened, all the speculation came. Oh, you hung himself. Oh, he was depressed. Oh, that he was short of money. Like all these crazy rumors were flying everywhere about what would cause him to take that. Because you see that from like the funniest people, you know, there's that other side

Starting point is 00:25:35 where they're, they go home and they're like super depressed and they, it's almost like they need that, you know, like affirmation, like going on the stage. The sad part with this dude did not want to leave early. He did not want to leave early, but like he was literally like dying inside. Like that sucks. Yeah, so it's, it's sad but good. I mean, they didn't away.

Starting point is 00:25:53 It's not like it's a tear jerk or something the whole way through. It's a really good, like, it's a really good bio on him and telling his, and everyone talking about his brilliance and his talent and old clips. And, and then like the last series that he was doing on TV in the last show that he did,

Starting point is 00:26:08 which was the museum one, I think it was part three or whatever, and they talked about like what they were watching him go through. So did they know, did he tell people he was depressed and feeling bad? No, like he tried to really like fight through it. Because he didn't know, like, and- But he never communicated to people like,

Starting point is 00:26:26 man, I don't feel not really, you know, he, that's why depression is such a rough, it's so tough sometimes, because people don't say anything, and you oftentimes, I had this train's client that I had no idea she suffered from crippling, like crippling crippling depression. She would show up and she would put on a smile

Starting point is 00:26:47 and like a happy face and like laugh and try to like, and I could tell that she was a little different, but I never had no idea. Until after, until much later, when one of my other trainers became really close friends with her and told me, she's like, you know, so and so, has suffered from crippling depression for forever. And I was like, no, I never would have guessed.

Starting point is 00:27:08 Never would have guessed. That's how he was, right? So very, only like the closest people like really could tell like different things were going on, but it would, even then it was hard because he was trying to cover it up. He was trying to get by, you know, but he was like all of a sudden the guy who was like famous for being able to remember crazy lines and do things off the cuff Was all sudden having trouble remembering lines and doing stuff like that And he was fighting it to try and overcome it because he was still doing all this television

Starting point is 00:27:34 And so he was right in the thick of all of it still trying to cover it up and act like he was fine and normal And it was just getting it just kept getting worse and worse and worse It's like super rapid, they break down how the disease works, and then literally, it all results in death. Like nobody gets through this shit. Once it spreads through the whole brain, like it's, and almost all of them actually end up in suicide.

Starting point is 00:27:57 So I didn't know anything about this disease at all, but it's so bad that it gets to a point where most people that are battling it, like they just want to be done. Neurodegenerative disorders have been rising for a little while now. Part of it's because people live longer and the other part of it's probably due to poor health, you know, so I don't know. Yeah, it's a, we, we actually, my grandparents, my grandfather in particular, is showing signs that he's been getting kind of depressed or whatever, not feeling good.

Starting point is 00:28:24 Part of it's because my grandmother, she had a little mini stroke and the other part of it is that they haven't been around their family. They're so family oriented. So this weekend everybody made it a point to go to my grandparents and they were in the garage and we were all out there but we all went there and we're just hanging out with them. Boy, can you see the difference in my grandparents from seeing all their kids and their family,

Starting point is 00:28:47 my cousins from, you know, but they drove a couple hours that came down. I hadn't seen them in a long time ever since COVID. And again, we were being respectful and keeping our distance, but my cousins started crying because she just like, you know, I've been trying to bottle in how much I've missed being around everybody.

Starting point is 00:29:04 And you really just realize how important it is to be around people and family and stuff, you know. Oh yeah, it's crazy. Massively important. So would you do to beat the heat? What did you guys do Justin? I actually, because the beaches and everything were closed, that was gonna be my first move,

Starting point is 00:29:17 but like everything was closed. All the state parks and everything were closed. And so I think they were just doing that because of Labor Day, they didn't want it like crowds of people coming over and like mobbing all these different places all at once And so you that was fine But so I usually have my go to like I don't live that far away from this creek and So I just walk down and so we go creek walking and we kind of go exploring what not it gets everybody outside

Starting point is 00:29:39 Get some exercise and all that but like it's literally like 20 degrees cooler. Like, as you walk down this valley, and so we're walking down, and then we go to our normal spot, and there's like hundreds of people. Like everybody found our spot. I'm so pissed. Yeah, they're there. Like there's this waterfall. It's a cool place. But so we're hanging out there and everything, and, you know, Courtney and I are getting like

Starting point is 00:30:04 anxiety because it's just like all these people We're like, oh, let's go back, you know, and I'm going back and I see What I thought was a stick, but it was floating alongside the river. I'm like, oh my god. It was that shit It was human shit someone took it someone took a dump in the creek Like it's like your creek. Yeah, my creek Like, it's always like in your creek. Yeah, in my creek. And so it's like, you guys have ever seen that move. I think it was stand by me. We're like, like,

Starting point is 00:30:29 baby rooster, baby rooster. You know, it's, I thought about like just screaming at the top of my lungs to embarrass whoever did it. You know, and I was just like, there's a poop over here. And I was trying to tell everybody, like, point at it. Who dropped, where the hell out of here? Who dropped it? Who dropped it?

Starting point is 00:30:43 Who dropped the doose like that? Yeah, and like, it's must have been like, some teenage boy think it's funny a hundred people in the creek and you're like, Hey, buddy I gotta take a shit right now. I'm not gonna lie that was exactly So discussed yeah, I'm sure a teenage boy with his buddy He's who thought that would be hell of funny because there's a bunch of families out there like I'm gonna take a boot shoot right here Let's see where it pops up. You do, we take a dump in there. Yeah, he's like, oh hey, watch this. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:31:07 It's like a hover. It must have been real quick, because there was so many people there. How could you not see that? Is there any category of people more disgusting than Teenage Boy? No. They are the worst.

Starting point is 00:31:17 Absolutely, we're honestly. Dude, I was a health line. You guys know the website, Health Line? Yeah. Pretty big health website. They did a page that had a poster, whatever, on the top 10 healthy cereals or low, you know, low carb or high protein cereals. Oh, shit.

Starting point is 00:31:35 The magic spoon making. The magic spoon was on there. Oh, it's boon. You know, it's funny. I compared magic. So what they did is they listed the cereal. They listed the ingredients. Talked about why they liked them.

Starting point is 00:31:44 And then the macros, right? These other cereals are like six grams of protein, seven grams of protein, there are 20 grams of carbs. They only made it because it was like, probably low in sugar and less official stuff or what. Magistamins blew them away. Completely no sugar, very legit low carb, and a very high protein, good quality protein.

Starting point is 00:32:06 The other ones didn't even come close. There was some of them that were like shredded wheat type cereals. I'm like, man, who made this? Yes. Because it's whole wheat. That's cool though. I mean, they've been getting all kinds of good pub, dude. I've seen them pop all over the place.

Starting point is 00:32:18 Thanks for exploding. Oh yeah, they are. Yeah, they're, you know, also exploding. Public goods, public goods sales has quadrupled since February. Boom, since my bump. They're now, they had that. Right, we signed off on it. So they're now in CVS, did you know this?

Starting point is 00:32:31 No, I did not. Public goods now has products in CVS. And so here's how it works, right? So for people who don't know this, you pay a really low cost membership fee. Like cost go. And then you pay wholesale. You pay wholesale for products that have,

Starting point is 00:32:48 load and no chemicals. It's a brilliant model. It's literally like a direct-to-consumer version of Costco. Yeah, you pay a low monthly or annual fee that you pay to be a part of the market. They just got an injection of money from some investors. So public goods is worth, and I love that when we do this, sometimes we do this when we capture a company right before they explode. Yeah. It looks like

Starting point is 00:33:09 that's what they're doing. I mean, CVS is a huge retail. I didn't know that. I did not know that. Yeah, this literally just, just happened. Well, I know that. So we're sitting here listening all of our sponsors off, right? Even though they're not commercials from it. Alleypop, the same thing. The Kruger, they just got it. They just did a huge thing they signed with a thousand Kroger grocery stores they're in a ton they're in the whole foods now I don't know if you guys have seen them in whole food so I haven't seen them in whole foods yeah yeah no they're everywhere right now too so there's couple they we got three brands like that that we've just started working with it I don't know if it's the coincidence yeah a little bit of a bum yeah dude you guys see did you guys read the article about the gyms and No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, tell your people or whatever to do as I say, don't do as I do. Yeah. That is the worst you'd literally are saying,

Starting point is 00:34:06 like, I'm just above all this. So what they, and this follow, this is, you know, really on the heels of what Nancy Pelosi just caught, got doing like, she's got caught going into salon. Oh, it was a setup. Well, it was a setup.

Starting point is 00:34:19 Yeah, except you weren't wearing a mask and you're harping on everybody. So do you know what you're doing? Yeah, yeah, but it was a sentence. So that happened, then right after that, I guess someone discovered or leaked that the state government buildings, their gyms have been open the entire time.

Starting point is 00:34:36 It's, they haven't been closed at all. It's so infuriating. Like I mean, like think of all the gym owners here that have been decimated and then you're gonna do that in right in their face. Oh, it's it's terrible. I know people who own gyms who ran them well. Remember when this first happened we were like, well, you know, if you can't stay close for a month and you know you need to reevaluate how you've been saving your money and your business model. You know, how long has it been now? Yeah. I don't know any business that could operate or or last that long the gyms have been crushed Dude, I don't care for any political affiliation here. That has to piss you off

Starting point is 00:35:09 Well, didn't they come out to didn't they just announced that the people that were not paying rent to that are they're gonna be able to come back and and collect rent the People that own the properties. I don't know that. Oh, yeah, you didn't hear that. Oh, yeah So I will maybe fact check me, but I'm pretty sure that I know that, that they did a federal, like a ban on evictions until October or whatever. Right, so there's conveniently right before the election. Yeah, so there's a ban on evictions and that's true,

Starting point is 00:35:36 but the rumor has it that they're gonna be able to come back, all the people that own those properties are gonna be able to come back and still get that money, whether it's some sort of a payment plan or they're going to have to pay that all at the end of the year. I don't know how they're going to do it with taxes and all that shit, but I have heard the rumor that that's not going to just be forgiven. So if you've stopped paying rent for somewhere because you've been told that you don't have

Starting point is 00:35:58 to and hopes that you it'll be forgiven, supposedly it's not. It's going to get tacked on to the end of your year. So we'll see some kind of a, some, not, nothing's really free. Yeah. Right. We are. That's crazy. Maybe Doug can fact check me. It says renters will be given an additional 12 months to rebate, repay back rent and landlords could collect the debt through civil courts. Property owners would be banned from evicting residents for unpaid rent due to COVID-19. Okay. I mean, while our whole state's just still on fire, do you see the gender reveal that caused

Starting point is 00:36:31 out of each fire? Oh, yeah. I was gonna bring that up. Yeah, gender reveal party that caused the big fire. Oh, dude. How bad would you feel if that was the deal? Terrible. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:36:41 And then they traced it back to that. So they must have called like 911. Like, oh, this fire got out of control. Like how did that all go down? Did you see? Well, they may be responsible for the cost of the whole thing. Oh my God. Which how are they gonna be after that?

Starting point is 00:36:52 They're supposed there's video. I haven't found the video, but the article that I read says there's actual footage of them. Like having the party and then they're by a bunch of dry brush and supposedly they catch it and they're trying to throw like water bottles on it. You see them trying to put it all out before they call it in.

Starting point is 00:37:04 Oh my God. So yeah, that's no, it all out before they call it in. Oh my god. So yeah, that's no, it's like biggest gender reveal of all time. Yeah. That kid's going to turn into problem child. Yeah. Right up in that movie. Yeah, that red headed kid, those assholes. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:37:14 That's going to be that kid. Hey, I want to hear about your wasp trap. I heard you brought a judge about this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know if it's like a redneck solution or what, but it's definitely like the low cost kind of version of a washtrap. So all you gotta do, you take a beef skewer

Starting point is 00:37:32 and then you put a piece of meat on it and then you basically, you have a bowl underneath it and you hang it over and eat it. So the meat's like above this thing of water. So put water in the bowl with soap and that's it, and literally they go after this meat, and then they keep trying to eat the meat, and then they fall and get a little bit of the soap on them, and they can't fly, I caught hundreds of these bastards.

Starting point is 00:37:54 Oh, did you really? Yeah, brilliant. Yeah, I put four or five of them around. Where did you find this tip? I got some of the clothes to it, yeah, exactly. Yeah, me and Courtney were just looking around, because the wasps, do you get all the bugs right now

Starting point is 00:38:07 because it's so hot are like crazy right now. So they're just all out and forced. And we're just getting really in the pack. Yeah. Did you hear that they found flees in, let me see, was it in Tahoe? I think it was South Lake. They found flees that tested positive for bubonic plague.

Starting point is 00:38:22 Oh my God. Like they've never left. Yeah. Whatever happened to the Florida thing, did either one of you guys follow up? Yeah, the mosquitoes that we morphed into something. I don't know if they're made for a new wave of coronavirus. That's gonna be 2021.

Starting point is 00:38:34 Yeah. That's next season of reality black hair. No, that'll be, no, that'll be four years from now in election year again. That's in that one. Right now in the New world or trial phase. Right. The trial's almost up.

Starting point is 00:38:47 How do you guys like it? What do you guys like it? What a brilliant idea with, you know, for being that I have a little bit of red neck in me, I never heard that before. It totally works. It blew my mind. Yeah. I'm not a fan of wasps of kills.

Starting point is 00:38:58 Oh, dude. Like literally, what is their purpose? Well, we got them up in the tall house. So we'll have to do that. That'll be a good little hack up there because they're right now that and that and we had those big ants those are the two things that we get up there That are that are pretty bad because we have a wassiness. I know on on the house. Oh, yeah, so yeah, wow We Did those calls brought to you by Max and a boy If you're looking to maximize your overall muscle and strength,

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Starting point is 00:39:49 Our first question is from Jamil A144. What are the top three or four supplemental exercises you can do to boost your overall deadlift strength? Oh, there you go. You know, I'm going to give you some exercises that have worked a lot for clients and then exercises that work really well for advanced lifters. And these are two sometimes different categories of lifts, because I think advanced lifters, we've been working out for a while

Starting point is 00:40:12 that tend to focus on things like lifting off of blocks or using things like bands and chains. But for the average lifter, oftentimes, there's either an imbalance or a weakness in the whole chain of muscles that try to deadlift. One exercise that remarkably tends to boost people's deadlifts, single leg deadlift. Yes, I'm glad you went there. Just a good old single leg deadlift with dumbbells or even starting with body weight, getting really good at it,

Starting point is 00:40:40 and then adding weight with dumbbells. You would be surprised at how stable and strong you felt with your traditional deadlift after practicing single leg deadlift. I would challenge advanced lifters there too. I think that's a no brainer for an ego thing where they avoid it. Exactly, because it's, you know, okay,

Starting point is 00:40:58 if I'm a 500 pound deadlifter to go grab 100 pound dumbbells and do a single leg. You're gonna be able to do it. Well, yeah, most guys won't. Right, that'll be hard, that's the hardest shit. And then that's humbling, right? So you have to go grab 100 pound dumbbells and do a single leg. You're gonna be able to do it. Well, yeah, most guys won't. Right, that'll be hard, that's the hardest shit. And then that's humbling, right? So you have to go grab 60s and start with 60s and work your way up.

Starting point is 00:41:11 But I think some of the best I ever felt deadlifting was when I was simultaneously also including heavy single leg deadlift, I just felt like you said, you feel so stable and strong, living. Yeah, I think another one though, like specifically is it pertained to what I was dealing with in my QL and you know that slight shift left the right, I think a lot of lifters don't really consider.

Starting point is 00:41:33 I would take a heavy dumbbell or a heavy kettlebell and I would do like suitcase carries down and back and just really kind of working on, you know, making sure that my body is able to fully stabilize and I can activate my obliques and keep everything centered as much as possible. Yeah, along those lines. Yeah, along those lines.

Starting point is 00:41:56 And along those lines, heavy farmer walks, heavy farmer walks with a trap bar or with dumbbells. I always feel so much more solid and strong in my dead lifts when I incorporate those into my workouts. Another one is good mornings, done properly. Good mornings really work on that hip hinge and hip extension and that stabilization of the lower spine.

Starting point is 00:42:20 And then another, here's an exercise a lot of people don't even realize can actually improve your deadlift, windmills. Just working up to a weighted windmill, where you actually have weight in the arm that's straight up in the air and where you can go down and twist to help with that lateral stability, which a lot of people get, this is how they hurt themselves when they deadlift, is that the the weight shifts just a little bit, they don't have the lateral stability support the weight that they're lifting, and they hurt themselves or their body. Because remember, your body oftentimes will prevent itself from lifting more weight because

Starting point is 00:42:51 of its own fear of injury. You may actually have the strength to lift more or possess the strength to lift more, but your body's not allowing you to get it. It's not allowing you to tap into it because it's a safety mechanism. It's a safety mechanism. Another great hip thrust. All right. Hip thrust, one of the, so when I'm working with someone

Starting point is 00:43:10 on a deadlift, one of the hardest things is to get them to understand that this is, we're trying to generate power from the hips and you're thrusting forward in a deadlift. You're not lifting the bar up because it looks like to the average person when you look at a deadlift, it's like, oh, you bend over, you pick the bar up. because it looks like to the average person, when you look at a deadlift, it's like, oh, you bend over, you pick the bar up.

Starting point is 00:43:27 You're picking it up with your body. Right, when it's a lever exercise. I imagine I'm pushing my feet through the floor and your thrusting the hips forward. And so good old hip thrust are a great way to get people to really understand the mechanics of what you're trying to do, because you're opposing gravity and a hip thrust.

Starting point is 00:43:46 It's much easier for them to understand, oh, I'm driving the hips up in the air, squeezing the glutes. But that's exactly what you're trying to do when you're doing a deadlift and you get into that hinged position is you're thrusting the hips forward instead of up like on a hip thrust.

Starting point is 00:44:00 So working on your hip thrust mechanics and getting really good and strong doing a hip thrust will carry over into a deadlift many times for most people even advanced lifters If you get if you progress your hip thrust and you start hip thrusting, you know four or five hundred plus pounds You'll see a nice carry over into your deadlift and for sure for beginner lifters I think that's a great exercise and then finally squats barbell squats. You know, it's funny, I've had it, and I've seen this many times where my deadlift numbers will go up, but my squat numbers don't. Rarely does the reverse happen for me.

Starting point is 00:44:33 My squat goes up, typically my deadlift numbers go up again as well. So, and again, this depends on the lifter. Some people are better at squatting than they are deadlifting. But if you're better at deadlifting than squatting, or you feel much more comfortable deadlifting, try improving your squat and then watch what happens to your deadlift.

Starting point is 00:44:51 Next question is from Erica in Texas. My dad's doctor told him he shouldn't squat because it compresses your spine when you load weight on your back. Instead, he just does leg presses. Is there any research you've seen about squats compressing your spine? She's where doctors need to be punched

Starting point is 00:45:09 in the face of time. So many of my clients have been told this. Yeah, so here's the irony of this question. Yeah, it's like worse off. Oh, a proper squat versus a proper leg press. The leg press poses much more risk. Yeah. The way that leg press is loaded,

Starting point is 00:45:24 when you bring the weight down especially, and you get the lumbar spine to, to, you know, extend or flex with weight, that is more dangerous than a, or more risk than a properly done far-bel squat. But let's go in the opposite direction. All right, so compressive forces on the spine, not good. So that means that astronauts in space,

Starting point is 00:45:45 who've been out there for a while, should have amazing spine health, right? Because there's no gravity. The space is between their spine or expanded a little bit. There's nothing pressing down on them. The reverse is actually true. When astronauts come back down, they find that they have bone degeneration muscle loss.

Starting point is 00:46:03 This is a big problem, in fact. This is one of the major hurdles that they have to tackle with long space travel. And other thinking about sending astronauts to Mars, one of the biggest problems, how do we keep the astronauts from degenerating? Because you need these forces to continue to tell the body to maintain strength, not just in your muscles,

Starting point is 00:46:22 but also in your bones. Now of course we're talking about proper squats, proper loading. Can you use too much weight? Of course, you can use too much weight on any exercise, but if you do it properly, you don't damage the spine. You strengthen the spine. You strengthen it. You strengthen it.

Starting point is 00:46:39 You train it. You strengthen the muscles that support it. You keep it stronger, straighter, for longer. If functions better. So no, there's nothing about a squat that's inherently wrong. I think this is the same, I think this is the same thing that we used to get with our national certifications, right?

Starting point is 00:46:54 I think that doctors have just been, they know they could be held liable, right? So if a doctor tells your dad, who's got, you know, spine issues that, hey, you should go back squat because back squat is going to strengthen your back and he goes and he does it irresponsibly, loads it like crazy, has terrible mechanics and he hurts himself,

Starting point is 00:47:13 he's liable for a lawsuit. So he's always going to do, he's always going to push clients in a direction that is a less risky or safer out because that's what's going to protect his ass. It's not necessarily what is best for the client. And that was very similar to how we were even taught as trainers. I mean, many of the exercises that we taught, you know, that we were taught, you never do behind the back, lap pull downs.

Starting point is 00:47:36 Oh my God, that's so dangerous. Squatting below 90. Oh my God, that's so dangerous. Bench pressing below 90 degrees. All these things, later in your career, you find out like, oh, wow, actually, I want to get my clients to be able to do all these movements through full range of motion, but yet all my certifications taught me that I'm supposed to stop here, and it's for safety measures.

Starting point is 00:47:55 And so that's where it's coming from, and that's what you need to be able to express to your dad as to him to understand, but always full range of motion and agony exercise that we do is going to be ideal. But you got to make sure that he does that safe and doesn't try and load the bar really heavy until he has really good mechanics. It's a gradual progression. And, you know, if the prerequisites of him going through and not having like proper stability, if that's not in place, then yeah, it would be problematic.

Starting point is 00:48:24 And so again, but that's not, it's not to just throw that exercise out. That's definitely something to work your way towards. And like, what does that look like? A proper trainer would be able to kind of assess ways to regain that stability, regain the strength, get proper support and mobility around the joints to support the load properly. And then just gradually start to load. I would not load ahead of time.

Starting point is 00:48:48 It's not just to say, go load right away and let's work this out. It's their steps to this, but you can't just make a bold statement like that and eliminate that when it's so, I mean, the results speak for themselves with people doing this. Properly done squats with good control,

Starting point is 00:49:05 good stability applied appropriately to the body, to that person, is one of the best possible exercises you could do. That's hands down 100% true. So there's two things I'm gonna say here. One is I recommend for your dad our prime bundle because that is a correctional exercise focused maps programs. And so what they going to do is in those programs he goes through assessments, he identifies issues with mobility, he corrects his

Starting point is 00:49:32 movement, and they'll get him to the point where he can do squats properly, safely, with good stability, good strength, and then reap the tremendous benefits you get from the squats. Now the second part is this, if we're going gonna use the logic that your doctor gave him, then we would also eliminate any kind of running, walking, or hiking. If you were to add up the repetitive stress from every step you took, because let's say you weigh 200 pounds,

Starting point is 00:49:56 every time you take a step, the compressive forces on my spine are more than 200 pounds, some stopping gravity, then you add up all those steps all day long, it would look absolutely terrible. Oh my gosh, don't walk, don't move, compressive, you know, forces are too high. This is true for anything that gets your body

Starting point is 00:50:13 to get stronger or improve, is somewhat of a stress. Whether you go out in the sun, and expose yourself to UV rays, or you handle rough objects, or you work out with weights and strengthen your body. It's a slight stress, but it's the right dose that makes the difference. When it's the right dose, not only is it not damaging,

Starting point is 00:50:33 it's healthy and it's strengthening. And again, if we were to break down what happens to your body, even with the proper workout, if I took Justin and I put him through an appropriate workout and then while he's working out, we tested his body, measured inflammatory markers and hormones and damage markers also from a, on the computer, it looked terrible.

Starting point is 00:50:51 Oh my gosh, just and stop doing what you're doing. Your inflammatory markers are going up. I see micro tears in your muscle. This must be absolutely terrible. But we know exercise is not terrible. It's phenomenal. It's one of the best things you could do for your body. So this is terrible advice from your doctor.

Starting point is 00:51:04 And by the way, doctors have has zero education when it comes to proper application of exercise. I know I used to train a ton of doctors and surgeons and they hired me for a reason. Their expertise is a very narrow but very deep and specifically what their doctors for. That's what I would stick to. But when you ask them stuff on exercise and diet, they usually don't know any more than the average person who reads the average health article. Not to mention that part of the benefits of learning

Starting point is 00:51:34 and performing a good squat is the core and low back strengthening that you get from it. When people look at squats as just a leg exercise and they try and switch it out with something like leg press, which absolutely requires zero core stability or low back stability or strength, it's like defeating the purpose of what the real benefits of learning how to squat would do for this person. This person who has potential spine issues, nothing is going to help their spine more than getting a strong core and back muscles to support that spine. If you do something like a leg press, you're going to atrophy that.

Starting point is 00:52:11 You're not having to work it whatsoever. If you eliminate squads for the leg press where you do not have to use any core stability and no low back muscles are being engaged when you lay down on a seat and press with your legs, all the only benefits you're getting from that is some leg development. and no low back muscles are being engaged when you lay down on a seat and press with your legs. All the only benefits you're getting from that is some leg development, but a squat is so much more than that and learning how to squat is so much more than that. So when you have a client like this,

Starting point is 00:52:35 that was always the hardest thing as a trainer. So I understand where this kid's coming or this guy's coming from, with trying to probably explain to his father that he needs to learn how to do it, is because these doctors would tell clients, like, oh, you have back issues, don't do deadlifts, don't do squats, but the reality is, as a trainer of my goal was to get them

Starting point is 00:52:51 to be able to perform those movements, the safest and the best, because if I could get them to do that, nothing was going to protect their spine longterm more than that. Next question is from one conor. If you're not getting sore, should you do more sets in your workout? No.

Starting point is 00:53:08 First off, I look and see if you're progressing. Are you getting stronger? Are you improving your mobility? If so, then you're doing everything right. Soreness is a terrible indicator of how good or bad your workout is. It's technically a sign of overtraining. Yeah, if you get really sore, that means you probably over did it. Here's ideally, here's how I like to feel after a workout

Starting point is 00:53:28 or how I'd like my clients to feel after their workouts. Maybe a little soreness or none, that's it. If I asked them, and I would do this especially when I get new clients, because when you start training, when you first get into working out, it's difficult to gauge intensity

Starting point is 00:53:42 because you don't know what's too much, what's not, what's too little. So I would text my client the day after and then the day after that and it'd say, how do you feel? And if they tell me, oh man, I'm really sore, I know I over-did it. If they said, I kinda, I think I feel it a little bit,

Starting point is 00:53:56 but otherwise I'm like, or if they say, oh, I feel great, then we're on the right path. So, soreness aside from telling you you over-did it, other than that there's really nothing no value in looking at you know how sore you are. It doesn't tell you that your workout was effective. Yeah I picked this because this was one of those that initially we had talked about you know a while back. I know a lot of my clients would share the same sentiment like if if they

Starting point is 00:54:20 didn't walk out of the workout in the next day they got sore sore, they felt like, okay, can we ramp it up? Like, what are we doing here? And I mean, it's just a common thing that I think people attribute a good workout with soreness. It's still something that exists. I know that we kind of breeze past it all the time because, but this was definitely one of those

Starting point is 00:54:40 kind of groundbreaking things that I had to like mentally establish with my clients that yes, there initially you you may feel this tightness the soreness, you know the first You know few weeks because it's just novel stimulus right and that does happen and when we switch it up You're gonna feel you know, maybe a difference With the soreness just from doing different things, but eventually your body is going to react a little bit differently. And so to be able to walk out of these and then come back with more energy and feel stronger, that's those are the metrics that I'm going for, not the soreness. I think of it real similar to like how I think about losing body fat, right?

Starting point is 00:55:19 So everybody wants to see the scale move when you talk about body fat. And it's like, no, I know I'm in the perfect sweet spot. If I can actually maintain your scale weight, but lean you out. Because then I know I'm applying just the right of a caloric deficit to still be able to build a little bit of strength and muscle while you also lose body fat.

Starting point is 00:55:38 I think of the same thing too when I'm trying to gauge intensity of my training. Can I continue to build strength and mobility in my client without them getting really sore? If I can do that, I know I'm hitting that sucker right in the sweet spot. You know, is it likely that I'm going to overeat sometimes and get them a little more sore than I need?

Starting point is 00:55:56 Yeah, that's probably going to happen along the way. But I know if we are getting stronger, week over week or month over month, and they're not feeling sore, I know I'm like, I'm hitting it as a trainer, I'm hitting it just right on the intensity because I'm not overreaching and potentially setting that person back. It's the same way I look at losing body fat. I'll tell you what, when I'm getting my best results, it's when I'm not getting sore,

Starting point is 00:56:21 no joke. When I'm doing good workouts and I feel good and I feel strong, and then the next day, I'm not really sore. That's usually when I'm kicking butt. That's usually when I'm progressing and getting stronger each time I work out. When I'm getting really sore, once in a while because I change my workout is okay,

Starting point is 00:56:39 but if I consistently get too sore, they usually, they usually following with me losing progress. I'm not getting stronger. I'm not performing better. Yeah, I also notice my volume goes up a bit too, just personally, because of not being sore and like, you know, just like adding in a bit more, you know, reps and, you know, more different exercises.

Starting point is 00:56:59 It's just, it's one of those natural things that just happens because you got more energy and you're, you're able to do a bit more. Next question is from drummer man, 1089. What is your best financial advice for newlyweds? Oh, so this is not gonna be sexy advice. But, but this is coming from the cheap ass. Well, no, this is, this is 100%. I mean, don't take them in big dogs.

Starting point is 00:57:22 You know, here's a deal, it's like a new lifter. Like, okay, what are the advanced techniques for building biggest biceps and whatever now say thing? Okay squat deadlift bench press You know overhead press what yeah, but I read this article where Occlusion training and getting a pump and four straps and you know using bands and chains like no no no This is where you need to start so this can be confusing for people because you look up financial advice or best ways to invest And you get all these articles on how to leverage your money and leverage debt and invest in the stock market which companies to pick, you know, how to, you know, how to even gamble in the stock market with things like, you know, short selling and all this other stuff and options and yeah, here's

Starting point is 00:57:57 the bottom line, no joke. And I listen, this is, forget coming from me, I'm a trainer, I'm a fitness guy, I come from a family of investors. All my cousins, this is what they do for a living. So my brother does for a living. I'm on a thread with them. We talk about this all the time. And it's funny, one of the biggest things that they talk about is how they, now that they're experienced

Starting point is 00:58:18 in advance in investments, the stuff that they used to think was totally wrong. Just like when we started working out, I thought it was all these advanced techniques when it reality was the basics. Yeah. That would have got me there. They said, man, the best thing you could do

Starting point is 00:58:29 when you first get started is two things. Number one, eliminate your debt. So don't have debt, don't have credit card debt, don't have card debt, don't pay interest. That's money, that's just your burning. If you want to buy a car, buy a car, you can afford to buy right now. That means you gotta drive a shity or car, so be it.

Starting point is 00:58:48 Don't have credit card debt at all. That's again, another big waste. And then number two, save a hundred grand. That's what they always say, they always say this. Save your first $100,000. After you, because nothing you can do up into that point, will be as consistent as just saving or as effective as just saving a hundred grand. Once you save a hundred thousand dollars and you do that,

Starting point is 00:59:09 then you look at investing in the market or potentially buying property and stuff like that. But until you get to that point, and this is what they tell me that you are dumb for having debt and for not trying to save your money. What you're probably going to do is you'll make a few mistakes, lose it, and then you're totally screwed. So it's better off to save and not spend, and I know that sounds old school and boring, but that's what they continue to hammer into me.

Starting point is 00:59:35 I think that's great advice, dude. I think, so I have two things I'm gonna give you, and I'm gonna preface it like sell it. I'm just a fitness guy. I'm not a financial advisor. But I learned the hard way. So I made good money when I was really young and spent and lost a lot of money.

Starting point is 00:59:53 And so later in life, I came up with this kind of semi-conservative formula for myself. And it's not like what you'll read in some books, because then I'll give you a great book to read too on top of this that doesn't completely align with this. and it's not like what you'll read in some books because then I'll give you a great book to read too on top of this that doesn't completely align with this. But this is what really got me in a direction of like in a place where I could invest like,

Starting point is 01:00:11 South, saving my first 100,000 and moving to where I could actually have money working for me. And that was, because here's where I struggled. Somebody who didn't have much and then I got money was like, man, I work so hard, I want to be able to reward myself, I want to be able to reward myself, I want to be able to enjoy some of these things.

Starting point is 01:00:27 There are materialistic things that I like. I do like to drive a nice car, I like shoes, there's all these stuff that I like, but then at the same time too, I don't want to be irresponsible like what Sal is alluding to right now. So I had this little thing that I used to do and it was okay. And I've always had jobs or businesses on the side to where my pay is always fluctuated where it's not always like this flat rate. I could work harder in a month because I own my own businesses to make more money.

Starting point is 01:00:53 And so I made a deal with myself that if I wanted to buy something, whether it be a hundred dollar pair of sneakers or a $50,000 classic car, I had to have saved or invested the same amount of money. So if I wanted a hundred dollar pair of shoes, I would, I need to have also saved or invested a hundred dollars of that money that month. So I never, ever spend in a month's time more than in what I've saved.

Starting point is 01:01:16 So 50, 50, 50, 50. So that's after bills, right? So you pay all your hard costs that you have, whether that be car payments, rent, mortgage, whatever you have, take care of all that. Then I have a set amount of money left over of that. 50% of that, I would allow to buy things that maybe I want. And then the other 50% has to be saved. That's gotten me a long way.

Starting point is 01:01:36 Now, that doesn't completely align with the book. I'm gonna refer to you. I wish I would have read this book because it's definitely tightened. I've tightened my game up and it goes more in line with what Sal said. It was a great book reference from our good friend Mike Matthews and I just finished reading it not that long ago.

Starting point is 01:01:52 I think it would be great if you're recently married. I've talked a long time ago on the podcast about things that Katrina and I have done to build and strengthen our relationship. One of those things that we do is we listen to audio books together, listen to millionaire next door. Great read. Also it would be great for you and your partner to listen to it together.

Starting point is 01:02:15 Make a, you know, a couple hours out of the week, whether that be just one or two hours out of the week that you dedicate that you and her sit down or you and him, I don't know who's asking this question, you know, sit down and listen to this book and work your way through that. And it addresses everything that Sal said and everything that I've talked about

Starting point is 01:02:30 about how you should save and invest your money. Yeah, I think, I mean, just to kind of throw this out there, reading this question to me is really about getting both parties in alignment first. And I think that a lot of couples still operate with their own financial strategies independent of each other. And I was actually talking to a few like when my brother-in-law and like how they kind of got to the point where they are, but it took some time to really relieve the fact

Starting point is 01:03:02 that your money is their money. It's the collective money. So you got to figure out both of your goals and how you can align both of your goals together. So you really need to have that conversation and sit down and pull everything together now and really just kind of put all that extra stuff of I pull all this in and you're not doing,

Starting point is 01:03:21 it just creates dissension and that just never works. It just ends up in fights and money is a big thing that really breaks up couples. To really just establish both of your goals, write them out, how you're going to get there, definitely eliminating debt, saving money, all these old schools, conservative methods are time-t tested for a reason, but then how are you going to then collectively as a team move forward in your investment strategies and all that. But that's something that I mean, I had to like have that hard conversation and really

Starting point is 01:03:55 put a lot of time and effort in, okay, we have all this debt here from my school, we have this from your nursing school, like this, how are we going to eliminate this, like what kind of strategies are we're going to use in terms of using our credit card to paying it off every month, that way we build up our credit score, things like that. Just having that conversation, I think, is crucial. You know what the challenge with this is that, and it's, again, fitness, people who are getting into fitness and want to change their bodies, they look at the genetically gifted or the guys or girls who take steroids and Oh, I could look like that in a year if I just did all this crazy stuff and you know those of us who've been training people for a long time understand the average person. No, it's not gonna work that way. You'll never be able to sustain it and you're not gonna look like they will because you're your own person. It's like you look at millionaires who start this company

Starting point is 01:04:45 and blow up or you have a friend who got into a company who then went public and they became millionaires and say like, oh, this is how you do it. This is the fastest way to do it. If I invest it here and I make 15% here and 10% there within 10 years, it doesn't work that way. It is unfortunately or fortunately, it's a slow process. But look, maybe it takes you 10 years

Starting point is 01:05:05 to save $100,000, okay? Cause it sounds like a lot of money. I know to a newly way, do you think? Like, how many is save $100,000? Okay, it might take you 10 years or 15 years. That's the hard part. After you get to that point, now you have some money you can invest and here's the thing with money.

Starting point is 01:05:19 The more you have, the more you can make. It's that initial period that's difficult, that initial period of eliminating debt and saving your money. And that also, by the way, that also helps you develop the skills and the financial health to be able to deal with money when you make it or maybe even lose it.

Starting point is 01:05:38 Because there is a lot of skill that is involved with that. This is why lottery winners tend to go bankrupt. They don't have the skills associated with earning that money, They just get it. So if you go through a period of 10 or 15 years of eliminating debt, living below your means, saving your money, wow, we saved our first $100,000. You are now prepared to really take yourself to the next level with that amount of money. But again, if you talk to responsible investors, that's what they'll tell you. Eliminate debt, save your first $100,000, set those as your initial goals and live below your means. And that's the only way to do it. You'll be okay. Millionaire next

Starting point is 01:06:12 store. It's a good read for you. And I think it'll be great for you as a partner to do. Look, MindPump is recorded on video and audio. If you want to see our faces, come check us out on YouTube. You can also find us on Instagram. You can find Justin at Mind Pump Justin, me at Mind Pump Sal, Adam at Mind Pump Adam, and Doug the producer, he's got an Instagram page too. There's also fans only here. Doug the jug. Yeah, you got to check him out there.

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