Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1388: The Benefits of Contralateral Training, the Truth About Alkaline Water, Gaining Credibility as an Out of Shape Trainer & More

Episode Date: September 25, 2020

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about contralateral training, the value of Alkaline & PH water, whether foam rolling is good for recovery, and credibility of out of shape personal trainers. Morning moodiness is a real thing. (5:01) The potential value of bullies. (8:20) Mind Pump Recommends, My Octopus Teacher on Netflix. (18:28) The value of debate and why Sal recommends Allsides.com. (24:03) The at-home workout “bike wars.” Who will win?! (28:27) Compass pathways, psilocybin-therapy firm, goes public. (33:56) It’s pumpkin spice season! (35:53) Is Halloween canceled this year? (36:32) The benefits of tea tree oil for the scalp and how Adam has been using Dr. Squatch to remedy it.  (39:00) Going to the movies in the COVID era. (42:14) #Quah question #1 – What is contralateral training and who does it benefit? (45:03) #Quah question #2 – Are alkaline & PH water another processed item on the market? Or are they worth the money? (51:07) #Quah question #3 – Is foam rolling good for recovery and can it help you recover faster? (55:59) #Quah question #4 – In your opinion, how credible is a personal trainer if they’re not in their best shape at the moment? (1:00:12) Related Links/Products Mentioned MAPS Fitness Products Cobra Kai | Netflix Official Site My Octopus Teacher | Netflix Official Site AllSides | Balanced news via media bias ratings Peloton Shares Rebound After Amazon Denies Echelon Partnership Apple Fitness Plus comes after Peloton with streaming workouts that sync with Apple Watch Compass Pathways Takes Investors on a Trip to Higher Prices Compass Pathways (NASDAQ: CMPS) Begins Trading on Nasdaq Global Select Market Visit Organifi for the exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code “mindpump” at checkout** Are Halloween, Thanksgiving Cancelled? CDC Releases 2020 Guidelines For Fall Holidays Visit Dr. Squatch for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! *Promo code “MINDPUMP” at checkout for 20% off sitewide* Tenet (2020) - Rotten Tomatoes 3 Exercises To Decrease Lower Back Pain | FREE Back Pain Guide How To Foam Roll PROPERLY (AVOID THESE MISTAKES) | MIND PUMP Lets Talk About The TRUE Value of Foam Rolling Mind Pump Podcast - YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources   

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Saldas Defano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this episode of Mind Pumped the World's number one ranked fitness health and entertainment podcast, we answer fitness and health questions that are asked by listeners and viewers just like you. But the way we open the episode is by talking about current events, we'll bring up studies, we have a lot of fun.

That's the intro portion of this episode. That's 39 minutes long. After that, we get into the fitness questions. By the way, if you wanna see the episode as it's timestamps, you can fast forward to your favorite part. Go to minepumppodcast.com. So let me give you a breakdown of the episode. We open up by talking about morning moodyness.

I had a little experience with that with my daughter this morning. Can't wait to become the teenager. Then we talked about bullies. Our experience with bullies and the potential value of bullies. We talked about a show on Netflix called My Octopus Teacher. Justin and Adam are having a good time watching that.

Yeah, a little uncomfortable. I talked about a good website. I think is very valuable these days called allsides.com. This is where you can find your new source and see which side it leans towards to see if you're being unbiased with your opinion. Then we talked about the bike wars,

with the workout bike wars, peloton, Amazon, Apple, who's gonna win our bet is on Peloton. Then I talked about a company who just IPOed Compass Pathways. This is a pharmaceutical company that's trying to produce psychedelic medication, legal psychedelic medication for treatment. That's kind of interesting. Right. Just and super excited because it's yoga pant season, fall is here. That also means pumpkin spice. Everything. By the way, organify, which makes amazing organic supplements, now has pumpkin spice flavored gold juice. This is what you take at night, relaxes your body, gives you

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Again, that's mapsfitinistproducts.com. Dude, I had a terrible realization this morning. So I'm the oldest of four kids, right? I remember distinctly, maybe you remember this two Adam because you're the oldest of a bunch of kids too. I remember distinctly my sisters going from sweet and happy most of the time to completely unpredictable and crazy a little bit.

I remember I was right around 11 or 12 and it was just like what happened, you know And I wasn't really old enough to understand my daughter's 11 and The the morning moodyness is just yeah this morning was a good time. Oh, it hasn't even fully said it That's my pride what I'm it's she's just warm enough. That's the fear dude. Yeah, like literally it's yesterday It's like cuddly hug and dad. I love you. It's so great this morning You know she wakes up, come downstairs. Oh, hey, honey, I go to give her a kiss.

Get away from me. Huh? Ha, ha, ha, ha. Look what do they do? So bite your hands up. I think my sister. What do they do? My sister and I were pretty inseparable

till we were about 12, I think. So right before high school was the main divergence, right? So once we hit high school, oh, you guys weren't cool in high school? No, we were just so different, right? So even though we're only one year apart, I'm sure she'll check me on the dates on this because she remembers this is like vivid memories

for her, right? When we like, when I was like, I'm going my own way. Well, we were only, we're only, you know, we're only about 13 months apart from each other. But because she's in December and I'm in early November, she's were two grades apart from each other. But because she's in December and I'm in early November, she's were two grades apart from each other. But so growing up as kids,

we played with each other all the time. We were best to friends. And then I think junior high, once she was in junior high still, I was making my way into high school. That gap was enough. And once you get into high school, like I'm too cool to hang out with my little sister.

And so I probably wasn't hanging out very much with her. And then when she get into high school, like, I'm too cool to hang out with my little sister and so I probably wasn't hanging out very much with her. And then when she gets to high school, she literally like resents like every person that I hang out with, the type of person I hang out with. Like she was like anti the athlete and cheerleaders and that was like totally my life. So from your perspective, she's the one. She did my sister went through and all,

I was like my cousin. All blackface, you know what I'm saying? She went to that, like she was, she was like the out of the two of us I would say she was the the bad one in school like I was a goody goody kid, right? She was like the bad kid and I swear she did that because It was just because she went the opposite directions me. I I feel I'm sure she'll clear this up I know her she's such a like you that. Yeah, she's like a sweetheart. What's your, my sister's got an edge to her, bro.

Oh, I could see that. I could see that maybe a little bit, but if I had to, if I, knowing both of you, if I had to guess. I mean, you know the sweet side because she handles customer service, right? So you guys see that she's like, oh, why don't you show good with our people and stuff?

Yeah. But you don't want to cross my sister, dude. I don't, I don't think that, but I'm knowing the both of you, if I had to label one of you an asshole, yeah, I'm gonna put it on you. Oh, let's say Adam. Yeah, I'm sure she likes that, but yeah.

Yeah, no. So my theory is that that two-year gap, right? So because we were like I said in several to like 12 of me getting into high school and becoming too cool, right? To hang out with my little sister, I think that built up animosity. So then when she came into high school and becoming too cool, right, to hang out with my little sister. I think that built up animosity. So then when she came into high school, was like evaluate like who my brother is, who he hangs out with, like the group to click,

and then she like identified with the complete opposite, you know. Do they still do, or click still a thing in school, like they wear room, because when we were in school, you're the one with the high schooler, so you would never better than anybody. Yeah, but it's, it doesn't seem as strong then but I don't know if it's just my little you know slice of my kids school because I remember being in school and they were distinct like the stoners hang out over there. Yeah, that's

the job. The God's kids are in the parking lot. There's the skaters. There's the God's kids and you know it was very very segregated you segregated. It was like that, it was like that. I'm married around the library. Yeah, no, it was definitely like that. That's what looks at me when you're married. I think they're more inclusive now, right? I think that's like such a thing. Oh, there's so much nicer now.

It's ridiculous. I think that's more of a message now that in school, it's like. Maybe that's what it is. It's like now, do you have the inclusive kids over here? Is that everybody else is over there? You know? Maybe, yeah, do you think there's any benefits

to the meanness? I think there's a little bit of learning. I do. I mean. Just, yeah. No, I just, I think that like, this is preparing you for outside life. Like, people are not always gonna be nice to you.

Like, how do you deal with that? I talk about this with my kids all the time because there's like this one kid, Ethan, my oldest, like he's had a really hard time with. And of course, he gets paired with this kid in every class, like the last three years. Oh wow. And so you didn't have to fight him.

Well, and he gets like, dude, come on. Yeah. I'm trying to do a good job pair to you. Yeah, I'm saying you're gonna have to fight him, son. Yeah. No, I'm like, look, good job parenting here. Yeah, you're going to have to fight them, son. Yeah. No, I'm like, look, you're going to have people like this, your whole life. You don't want to hang out with them.

They're going to interject and butt their way in and be rude and try and blame you for things. That's just human nature. You've got to figure out how you're going to be able to deal with this because there's something that you're going to be able to deal with this because, you know, there's something that you're going to see later on in life as well. So it's been tough though, because he's learned how to deal with it and how to basically tell him, like, look, I don't appreciate this.

And he's like very much more like in his face about it. And then the guy's leaving him alone. And so it's been a good learning lesson. But again, like if it was, if I was another parent, I'd be like, and they're like, no, you can't have this kid in class with him. My kid shouldn't suffer because this kid's being an asshole. I feel like Sal's more likely to get defensive like that.

I feel like he would be more protective. He has more of that protective side of him. Well, so you have to be smart about it though. You know what I mean? If you go in and you tell the teacher, like you hire like a hitman for the kid, you take his knees off. Well, like you go and timidate the other kid

and they ask her to get his hair. You know what I mean? So like I would, I find this, you go threatened to death. The bully's parents. And then I'd go threaten him and be like, if you're kid, you know, I'm not the kicker. No, that's not what you,

do I ever tell you guys about the time that I advised, so I had a client that I trained, and she brought me her son to train. And the kid was 13 years old, and one of the reasons why she had me trained him is to build his confidence, and part of that was because he would get bullied at school. So I'm training this kid,

and I'm just focusing on fitness. I'm making, and I know what fitness does. If you do it right, you don't even have to preach. It just does build confidence. But this kid would confide in me about these kids and there was one in particular that really used to bully him pretty bad. And the mom, she was a single mom, very successful though,

and she would go and talk to the school. But this kid was a real piece of shit. I mean, really just bullied, so he would tell me stories. And now I'm getting emotionally invested in this kid, because he's my client. He's kind of like a little, you know, my, like I feel like he's my little brother, you know, so I'm giving him advice now at some point.

And he's like, yeah, he follows me, because I, he was like, what do I, what should I do? This kid always bothers me, says things, he pushes my books off the desk. I'm like, well, your mom's, you know, talking to school or, you know, what should I do? This kid always bothers me, says things. He pushes my books off the desk. I'm like, well, your mom's talking to school or what's going on. I said, well, maybe you should ignore him.

And he goes, he follows me home from school. He grips my backpack off my back. He pushes me. So he's telling me this. And one day, the kid followed him home from school and pushed him down. And then he got up and just walked away. So I'm like, oh, man, I hope I don't regret this,

but I said, okay, here's what, maybe you can do this. I said, next time he's following you, turn around and tell him you're not gonna move. Say, I'm not gonna move, don't come near me, I'm not gonna move and put your arm out. If he gets close enough to where he could touch him, hit him in the face as hard as you can and send him a message.

And so, and I said it a little bit better than that. So, he did it. The kid, he stopped, he said, I'm not gonna move. He put his arm out, the kid came close, he hit the kid in the face. They got in a fight, mom got all pissed off. Oh my God, my son, this and that, but guess what happened? Never bothered me. Never, never, never, never again.

Never bothered me again. Well, that's the thing, just being assertive and standing in your ground. That's, that's the biggest thing. And that's like when they face that and like you're something that's not going to be moved so easily, then you know, they'll back off. They want an easy target. Yeah, or you'll get jump like I did several times.

Or the junior high. Yeah. It worked so well for me. It feels character, right? It's cool too, dude. It's character, don't you think? Exactly. It toughens you up a little bit.

It gave me a little bit of a reputation. So Ethan has dealt with it then, huh, right? He's cool too, Bill's character, don't you think? Exactly, it toughens you up a little bit. Maybe a little bit of a reputation. So Ethan has dealt with it then, huh, Justin? Yeah, this kid's a real punk, and it's been, it's been a headache. Faith's name on the podcast. No, I don't wanna do that. He's already dealt with him like a few times and had physical interactions with him

and has been able to now get him completely to leave him alone. Now, I'm not there yet. So, what's that feeling like? Now, do you see him like teacher parent conference things or some usual thing? There's always a background story, right? So, again, this is also why I like Kobe Kai. And, you know, I'm not just just keep bringing it up, but...

What? Dude, they showed Johnny's background. What I'm trying to say is this kid has shitty parents. There's a life analogy in Goverc chaperous. He's empathizing with his son's bully. The kid has shitty parents. And there's probably abuse.

There's something going on. Of course, totally. And so I realize that. And so I'm trying to then tell Ethan this kind of stuff without saying it specifically, but he probably doesn't have the best, you know, home to go back to and is looking for ways to take it out. And so, you know, you see that when we go to these

parent-teacher conferences and stuff, like this guy, like, it's just a real piece of work, you know? And it's like, at first I got like mad and I was gonna, like, you know, just like, like, I was gonna confront him, you know, and be like, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this is gonna confront him, you know, and be like, hey, your kid's an asshole. You know, like, and, but like, I saw him, like, oh, wow, like this guy is a real piece of work,

just the same guy who was like smoking weed on like the high school, like, thing. Remember you told a story one time about like, one of the dads, you guys were all going somewhere and he was like, is that that dad? No, that's another winner dad. That's, that's one we just, you know how it's, okay, so as a parent, you kind of just cut off,

like certain, like, little friends of theirs, like, oh yeah, yeah, you're not going over to that kid's house. Yeah, no, his dad's an idiot. Yeah, yeah. It's a juggling act because as a parent, nothing will invoke your protective feelings like your kid. Yeah, sometimes your kid, you just, you know, Papa Bear comes out, but it's a juggling act. Do I say something?

And then run the risk of my kid looking like they can't handle themselves being a tattletail. Right. You know, that kind of stuff. There's also value in your kid figuring out, especially when they're in, see, here's the thing, when they're elementary school, maybe junior high, what's the worst that can happen? And it depends on the situation, but what's the worst that can happen? They get a shiner, maybe they get a blade lip or whatever, but there's a lesson learned. Once they get older, if they don't learn that lesson younger,

then it can become more and more dangerous. It's turning into extremists. Yeah, so you start, you gotta balance all of that out. Like, what do I, what do I do? What do I do? I mean, I don't know, because I'm not there yet, right? I feel like I would handle it similar to what you did, Justin. I think that no one told me this.

I went through that, right? So I've shared getting bullied and jumped and all that when I was a kid. For your small caps? Yeah, this one, I'm sure. No, they matched at that age. At that age, they matched. You know what I'm saying? It's small, everything.

And this skin is like a buck 35. I'm not feeling bad on this. It was a good jump shot. Yeah. No, no, no. So, I got all that when I was younger. And there wasn't a lot of coaching from my parents or conversation around it.

I figured it out. I dealt with it myself. And I think understanding, believe it or not, the bullies and probably how unfortunate they are and that's why it caused me. Probably what gave me a different perspective, right? When you're a kid, you don't see that. When you're a kid, you just see this kid

who's an asshole and he's a punk. A lot of times, kids actually think that that kid's probably cool or popular because everybody's scared of him and so everybody respects him type of deal where it's like, when you start to kind of open their eyes a little bit like sun, he probably has parents that don't love him. He probably has a shitty bed, he's got a sleep in. He's probably got a deal with all,

when you let him kind of understand that part of what makes this kid this way is a reflection of him not liking himself or not liking his situation. I feel like I was a smart enough kid that if you would have like taught me that, I'd probably have a different person. Unless he uses it, you know, yeah, the kid's bullying him. Hey, your dad's an alcoholic. My dad told me.

Oh, you might get a fat one. Oh yeah, think about that. Yeah. This kid starts crying. Oh, he isn't an alcoholic. Why, how'd you find out? Yeah, that's just control. You have no control at home, it makes you feel powerful

and you have control when you can exert it somewhere else. Right, right, right. That's where, you know, I had one, one of the kids that jumped me in junior high, I ran into him like four, three, four years ago as an adult and he's a pastor. And he came up to me at the grocery store. Wow. He walks up to me, he's like, Hey, Sal, you remember me? And I'm like, of course I remember in my head. I'm like, yeah, of course I remember you piece of shit. But I'm saying that. I'm like, no, man, I don't remember you. And he's like, Hey, man, I want wanna apologize. I know it was an asshole and junior high.

I'm really sorry I did all that. And so he must have liked. Wow, remember in all the way back to junior high? I was a big deal, dude. They cornered me in the bathroom. It was like five of them. And they all took turns. And I was just doing my best to defend myself the whole time.

Yeah. I remember, yeah. And then he ends up being a pastor later on. And so becoming a pastor and constantly. That's wild I'm a guilt Apologizes to me. Hey Justin. I watch that uh that octopus fucking documentary. Yes, we can What's it called? The the the most awkward Show yeah, so which right now uh my octopus teacher. Yes. Yes. Yes. I want to watch that so what's the deal with well?

Okay, so actually it's it's fascinating in a weird way. Okay, so it actually gets into octopus behavior and like how intelligent they are. And I think that there's really not a lot of behavioral study around octopuses. And so he went through all the stuff in his life and he made it about like kind of the drama and stuff that he was experiencing. And like when he was a kid, he really liked to go diving in, you know, these kelp beds and stuff and like he used to do this as a kid and so he remembered that so he started doing that again and decided to do this like every day and would visit this one specific area every day and saw this octopus and like kind of befriended it in a weird way.

But they had a moment where they actually had a connection, the octopus came out of its den, and then put its tentacles on its hand, and they kind of connected, and then it started to like, would see him and swim over to him, and land on his chest, and hug him, and all this weird stuff.

Sounds like weird anime. Oh, dude. He's like, cephalopod love. It was a little weird It was you know, we we watched it because so we were at Sanctuary this weekend and which means Max is sleeping in the same room as we are and it's like I don't know He goes to bed at like 7.30 a.m. At a clock when we're out there and I could eight o'clock a night We're it's a weekend and he's in the room with us and you're in the we're in this you know

They're like little single studios right on the beach or whatever I'm like fuck I can't watch TV right now. So like build all this thing to like cover the light so we can still try and watch TV and you can't watch anything violent or crazy or like, oh my god, what's on TV? That's not any of those things, right? So we find that and I'm watching that. So it's perfect. It's slow, it's quiet and Katrina hates all that, that, all the, hates all the nature shit that I watch, and so I'm all into it watching it. Yeah, I watch it with the boys, they're all about it.

Yeah, the thing that was your point, right? I don't think very many people have taken the time to try and befriend an octopus, like this guy did. This guy does this for like, it took, what Justin's talking about, I think it took, he tracks the days, right? I think it's like two, three months in of every single day coming down in the same place

and letting this octopus build trust and getting closer and closer to him until eventually he reaches out and kind of touches him and then. And he like loses trust at one point and like, he tries to like intervene and save it from like this shark that's trying to eat it and like, he's trying to be like observer and not interfere with this whole ecosystem and whatnot. It was fascinating, but also it's him saying it and how he feels about the octopus got real weird.

You started to dream about it and all this stuff, and you're just like, dude, what else? Well, so the, yeah, the things that I'm like, okay, so if we get sucked in because we're watching this octopus and it's like kind of fascinating, like you don't see anything. And he brings up at the very beginning like his relationship with his son and I can't help but think like, because they don't talk about any of that like his, it's not about this guy. It's all about this octopus. When I'm like, dude, this dad, okay, has got a son who looks like anthropomorphizing his son. Or something. Misplaced, misplaced, yeah. Dude, totally.

I mean, he's, and when you see like the amount of research that goes in this, this guy spends all day, all night thinking about this octopus. He's got massive charts on his wall of where it was at this time. And like, oh, it's crazy. For sure, the obsessions really. And I feel like no, but like, the person who's, you know, editing this or filming this, like, they don't ever ask that question. Like, what about the rest of your life, dude?

Like, this is all this guy is doing. We're also fascinated by the octopus and the story of that. I'm sitting there going like, this dude's gonna have a fucked up life, dude. Imagine this, yes. And then the camera guy. Yeah. The camera guy's like, there we go again a fucked up life dude. Imagine this. Yes. And then the camera guy. Yeah. The camera guy's like, there we go again.

He's like filming him in his room after he's done. He's like, I probably should turn the camera. It's something like we're done here. His son's watching the documentary. I know. Dad and mess this weekend with me and he's hanging out with it. That's what I feel like. I want to follow up.

Well, dude, you know, we're very complex, humans are very complex and we have this, this really strong feelings of empathy. Actually, in fact, yesterday I was watching puppy videos with my daughter last night before she got moody this morning. And we're watching these puppy videos and you can't help when you see a puppy, you can't help but think they're extremely adorable. When you learn about the theories behind evolution, because dogs and humans have worked together for a very, very long time, and they think that dogs slowly evolved these puppy features

to look cute to us. So they evolved to look cute so that we would take care of them. That's true. Think about it. How many animals do you look at in baby form and think they're cute? Not a whole lot. Some of them you do, puppies gotta be at the top.

Other animals and a spider that's a baby. And it's not that crazy. Because you literally see coming from a wolf, like what we've done to wolf. You've seen those memes. You've seen a little chihuahua. What the fuck, how do we do that? There's a meme with a wolf.

And it's like, you know, I'll go hang out with those humans next to the fire. What's the worst that could happen? And then the next picture is a pug with like a birthday candle cat on. It's in a little like one of those like glue vatandax. Yeah. What's going on now?

What's the worst that could happen? You used to be cool. Yeah. Yesterday I was also going to walk with the kids. And my son has definitely inherited some of my, I don't know, annoying qualities. Or he likes to debate everything. Oh wow.

So we're going for a walk and I don't care what subject comes up. He has to argue. Oh God. His side. But it's fun because him and I, He's exercising. Now do you engage or do you coach a little bit like son this is a kind of a turn off for most people. I love doing this with you

But most people are not gonna love this The situations might not want to go with this well case to his credit Double down his too busy trying to argue his No, no to his credit for good coach you that hey bro. This might get you beat up bro Well to his credit. Forget coachy that hey, bro, this might get you beat up, bro. He's cool. Well, to his credit, he's open. He'll let you go back and forth, but he always has a counterpoint. And he does it good, even though he may miss some form, but he's young, right? He's only 15. He has good points that he makes. And so we can go back and forth in debate. And so what ends up happening sometimes is I'll, I could tell that I've got some of his gears turning,

but instead of being like, that's a good point, he hasn't learned that yet. Instead, he just stops. Okay, I don't want to talk about it anymore. Ken Dunn here. Yeah. Only fun when I win. Change the subject. What were you guys debate?

I mean, what was it get, would he? Oh, man, we got into economics. We talked about the electoral college and the potential values. I don't want, you know, bore you guys with the details, but you know, he's making some good points. I can see what he's trying to say. And so I'm making my points and we're going back. And it was literally, it was literally an hour debate

about a couple of subjects. And I could tell Jessica was really trying that pull her hair out because she can hear that. It's cool as a parent to see how they think though, right? I love it. Yeah, you get to kind of find out what's like brewing in their mind and see like, you know, where to kind of steer them in the right direction. Oh, dude. And speaking of which, there's a great website I just found. And I'll recommend this to our audience.

It's called allsides.com. And if you go there, it literally will rank news sources on their bias. So you can go on there, look up your favorite news channel, you know, ABC, NBC, reason magazine, you know, Fox, whatever. And it'll tell you where they rank in terms of their bias. And then on the site, there's tests that you can take to see what your bias is. So it's a great tool because what I think you should do is go on there, look up your news sources that you love to read the most, do a self-test on yourself, and then purposely read the stuff that's on the opposite side,

just so you could challenge yourself. Yeah, see this, see, there it is. You could see the left, lean left, center, lean right, and right, and where everything is. Do you actually center? Yeah, I just feel like, is there anything centered? There's nothing, yeah, that's not, doesn't come with a bias.

Well, so I try to check myself, because when I look at this chart, to me, they put Reason Magazine in Lean Right. Now Reason is Libertarian. I think that's very center. So I try to check myself and think, well, is it because I'm over there more. I think that's very center. So I try to check myself and think, well, is it because I'm over there more than I think everything's more left or what's the actual deal? Right. None the last use it, you can use this to kind of guide

you a little bit. But it's really cool because you could type in a site that you're reading articles from and see which direction that they lean and then do your own tests. It's pretty cool. Is that so I'm looking at it right now. So I'm assuming that the, so you have the lean and then do your own tests. It's pretty cool. So I'm looking at it right now. So I'm assuming that the center, and then you have the two to the left, two to the right, are the two closest to the center considered closest to center? Is that the far outsides are the most extreme? Yeah, so on the very left is left.

Then it goes left lean, then it goes center, lean right, and then right. So on the extreme right, it's Fox News News on the extreme left, CNN, for example. But then in the middle, you have the Hill, USA Today, NPR, Bloomberg, on the lean right, you'll have market watch, on the lean left, you'll have ABC, for example, or Politico. But it's a really, really good way for you to check yourself. Mark, you watch us consider to lean, right? I didn't even know that.

You know, I thought it was a little neutral, but I guess, I don't know. I don't, I can't recall it. I'm gonna make a comment, but it could be my own bias, but I guess if you speak economic sense, you may be leading right? I mean, I don't, I mean, that may be the case a little bit. You know, being, you know, speaking of marketing,

I was just reading Market Watch this morning. Are you guys watching the bike wars right now? What bike wars? The bike wars, man. Workout home, I'm gonna call it. Wait, we got Apple, obviously we got Peloton. Yep. Who else?

And now Amazon. So Amazon is now throwing their hat in the ring here. So we have, and they are going after like the market of $499. So I think a bike under $500, they've partnered up with Eschlawn, and which is the maker of the bike, and they basically are creating something to rival the Peloton bike. And it's, I mean, what, five times cheaper than even the newest diversion of Peloton. We talked about Peloton coming out with a, they partnered up with a new manufacturer

so they could produce the bike at a, I think a 20% reduction of what it was last year or whatever, even at that 20% reduction, it's still five times more expensive than the Amazon bike that came out for five or no. What I don't know, because it's so new is, I don't know how it compares to it. One, I know that.

That's music experience. How integrated everything is. One, I know that. That's how smooth the experience, how integrated everything is. Yeah, because that's how it's spelled on. That's exactly because otherwise you just get an exercise bike. You know what I mean? If it's not gonna provide all that. So what this tells me is this tells me everything

that we've been predicting, which is that the fitness, there's still a huge demand for fitness. It's just shifting. Oh yeah. And at home workouts is exploding. And now you have all these major brands. They're trying to figure out how to get in on the action. Absolutely.

Yeah. Because I think the future of working out is going to, obviously, we've talked about this so many times, but it's going to look very different. You have Amazon and Apple, big players that usually don't have anything to do with, you know, with workout equipment. Yeah. And they're entering into the fray, which tells you that they see

that they're not just originally. I used to think that Palatine was just like a soul cycle at home to have a deal, right? I really thought it was just a bike, but the software offers all kinds of like workout stuff. So you can like turn your monitor on your bike, like, and you can have your little yoga mats aside with your pair of dumbbells and follow a trainer through a workout, a weight routine. So that, I mean, that competes it right with mere and tonal and the other ones. So it's gonna be really interesting to see how this all,

all that, how they all shape up as far as who has. I even heard Wins of like Orange Theory trying to get in on that in terms of like having statistics and things like at home that you could like shoot up to your screen. That's interesting because one of the things I was fascinated by with Orange Theory when I was there was what a great job they did with tech. So even during the time that I was there

what four years ago or more, I don't even know how long it's been. No way more now. Has it been more and four? Yeah. Only first started. Oh, no, you're right. I was there for the first year that I was still starting this, right?

So, you know, they were already doing things where, you know, they basically were doing things where, you know, you were, they basically were combining like the Fitbit fill and the connectivity to the group and the tracking your score. And you could wear it in the class. And it would sync up to the TV and see, to be able to, real time see your calorie burn and stuff and then your zones. Then you could go outside and go for a hike and be about your day and then it would track all your zones for the day.

And then like I said, connect to a community where you can all be. Honestly, I feel Apple and Peloton are going to be, you know, the two juggernauts in this space. Mainly Peloton because they've been doing it the whole time. This is their, you know, wheelhouse, but also apples like secretly like have had all these patents and all this tech that's been just sitting there waiting to integrate. And if you saw that they just launched their Apple Watch, like the latest version, where

those are like all these sophisticated new sensors they put into it. And you know, it's they're going to have this all, all this like biometric data and all that's going to be on the TV before you know. Well, here's my prediction, okay. Just like in the gym space, the equipment in the gym has far less to do with the success of the gym than the workouts that are occurring, the environment. Essentially, the feel of the facility would dictate its success way more than the equipment. I think whoever wins this competition is not gonna be the one with the best bike or the

best equipment. The best experience. The best bike or the best equipment. The best experience. The best experience, the best programming, the best workouts. That's what's going to win. This is where Peloton is crushing. It's not necessarily that they have the best bikes. It's that they're programming so far because things could change, is the best.

So Apple could go in with the coolest bike or whatever, but if you don't have good classes, a good field, a good environment, it's not going to work. They've got a lot of work to do in that direction. I also think they've already done a good job of building community. That's to have a lot of people.

Yeah, that's to me, that's the first. Once people like something, right? It's really tough to get you to come to something, try something else out. Like if you've been a Peloton person since inception, and they've just continued to upgrade and get better, and get better, and get better, and you're a part of that community,

like getting you to switch over to something just cause it's cheaper. I don't see that happening. I mean, I definitely think there's gonna be like many things. I think they'll all get a market share, and you're gonna have this, obviously they're going after different demographics, right?

I mean, you have a bike that's $2,500 to $3,000, whereas a bike that's $500, I mean, you're the type of person that is going to be able to choose. Yeah, it's pretty crazy, they're charging for a bike that's $2,500 to $3,000, whereas a bike that's $500. I mean, you're the type of person that is going to be able to choose. Yeah, it's pretty crazy, they're charging for a bike. And then you have a monthly membership on top of that. Here's the person that, okay, so I don't know,

this is my prediction, I could totally be wrong, right? I think the person going for the cheaper bike probably will end up going with a stationary bike and some kind of free programming on TV without needing to get the expensive integrated bike. People who want the integrated bike will go with the experience, the one that really wins, which would be at this point, Peloton. Peloton is, you know, speaking of companies, Compass Pathways went public. So this was the company that I know, it's some big investors, there are pharmaceutical company

who have a potential psilocybin, like magic mushroom drug that could get passed and right now was in trials. So they went public, of course they're exploding because there's a lot of excitement around, this kind of therapy. But it's the first pharma company, I think that potentially could be using psychedelics to treat,

legally, to treat depression, PTSD, and other psychiatric. That's exciting, man. This is very exciting. I think that psychedelics, from what I've seen with the studies, have so much potential to completely transform how some of these people get through. Yeah, you see Berkeley, they, I don't know if it's decriminalized or they made it somewhat legal to be able to start treating patients with psilocybin.

Yeah, it's just decriminalized right now, right? It's not legal. No, but Compass Pathways has a actual drug that can be approved, so it's not, you're just feeding people mushrooms, but rather standardized. Meeting the standards standards I guess. Now do you see them as like kind of like GW as far as like, are they the leaders in this category? They are the leaders.

They just went IPO and they've so far done well. They don't have any products on market so it's still a risky investment but I think the excitement is what's going to drive it at first. But if they get a drug to pass, to get, if it gets fast-tracked the way that cannabinoid medications did, you're going to see some exciting stuff. Because again, the research looks crazy. People with resistant treatment, treatment resistant depression, which historically is like, there's nothing we can do.

Some of these studies are showing some remarkable things with psychedelic research in combination with therapy. So this could be a breakthrough. You know what else is exciting? It is yoga pants and augseason, dude. Oh, I was gonna bring that up. My favorite part about fall. Basic bishops.

You guys saw my two, yeah. Pucket spice, everything nice. Ooh, yeah. Did you see Organifi drop their pumpkin spice, dude? watch that thing go crazy. What's what what is it? It's their gold. Oh, I've got to figure out how to frost that into to my latte. Dude It's already I bet you can and I'm sure it tastes amazing I've got gold is already like one of my favorite tasting ones that they have and so now you throw pumpkin spice in there look out Oh, I love you guys big fans of the pumpkin spice. I do like it secretly.

Yeah, not so much anymore. I really, what's gonna happen with Halloween this year? Are they gonna not, probably no trick or trading right? Well, that was the thing. I guess there was this big debate on that where they were making a hard stance of like, we're just canceling Halloween. I think this is like an LA and then people pushed back

really hard and so I think it's so I think it's still happening, but it's, you know, everybody's discretion. Of course it's gonna happen. Yeah, it's like you can't stop. Look at the beaches. Yeah, every time I get online, like I check before I go down to the beach, it's like it's closed.

Yeah, but you okay? I mean, go down there. Do you think, it's far from closed? Do you think parents are gonna, a lot of parents are gonna take their kids around to houses, can you? I think it'll be a lot less. I think it's gonna be a kids around to houses. I think it'll be a lot less. I think it's gonna be a lot less.

Yeah, I think it'll be a lot less. It'll be different. You'll probably put the candy out, you know, on the sidewalk or something and do that whole thing. I don't know what it's gonna look like. I just know, well, if you're a off-road candy for my door. This is where masks actually make sense. So, yeah. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. So, well, with my daughter, we said, look, if it's not happening, then why don't you have a couple of friends come over, you guys will dress up anyway. Yeah. We'll watch scary movies together. Well, it's funny, too, and I wasn't going to, well, so my kids decided to pick their own costumes this year, and it was very much a sign of the times and, you know, apocalyptic looking.

Like, so, what am I, what am I going to say? You decided to be like a plague doctor. Yeah. All the beak masks? Yeah. I'm like, really, this is what you want to go with? I was like, all right, dude, you know, cool. The other ones, like, you know, like a swat,

and I'm like, I don't know, dude. It's a little volatile right now. Katrina wanted to dress me, her, and Max all up, like, co-op or Kai and stuff like that. I was like, you gotta call Justin before you do that. It's been Justin's costume for like, like every year. Yeah, I was like, he's, I think he owns,

he has, I have the patent. Yeah. We can't, we can't, we can't be that without any approval. Actually, it's funny you say that because I was gonna be the, I'm like the skeleton Johnny this year and I bought like the, you know, the whole like,

like skeleton outfit thing and Realize it's too small. I can't fit it over my upper body like my legs. It's just like saran wrap But like so I'm gonna have to shred it and like make it work wait it fits your cakes, but not the upper body Yeah, that's weird. Well, you mean this way right? It's not tall enough. Yeah, you can't put it wide enough. Oh really? Yeah That is weird. Yeah, cuz normally it's the cakes that don't fit for you. Yeah, apparently a bunch of like little skinny dudes You know trying to pull off their Johnny you get the husky size Yeah, where's all the husky love? Yeah, I mean didn't go in that. That's hilarious. No. Yeah, so how did that? Adam, I know you you we're gonna test out the the T-Tree shampoo for scalp? Oh, no, actually I got, no, I've been using

Dr. Squatch for a while and recently I got a DM. So somebody ever since I've been shaving my head, it's funny, I get all these bald guys that like can message me now. It's like this was never a thing. How do you, how do you, how do you, how do you cope with it? No, you know, totally, like I, so I don't want a tease, right? So I'm not gonna throw anybody under the bus, but I do get a lot of that. Like, you know, hey, how long did it take you to be okay with it? No, totally. So I don't want to tease. So I'm not going to throw anybody under the bus,

but I do get a lot of that. How long did it take you to be okay with it? And this and that. There's a lot of that. I didn't realize how much, I mean, we should know, right? Look at all the marketing of this. Did you bury your hair?

No, I know. I like, it's a major insecurity for a lot of men. Now where I understood, and I think I've shared this on the show before, like what kept me from shaving it a long time ago was my psoriasis, right? So my dry scalp, and that was, you know, I'm like, I had a shaved head as a kid all the time,

so it wasn't a big deal. You say scalp, a scalp, like it's scalp. Scalp, scalp. Scalp, there's an A. Scalping. I know that I can spell it. I was scalp, or scalp. I'm a ticket skilper.

I'm sorry. skilper. I'm sorry. Sounds like you said, S-cal. You call my list belt right now. We're like, okay. So anyways, I'm talking to somebody in my DM and he says, I have really dry skin, what have you done about that.

And so, Dr. Squatch has a shampoo that has tea tree oil. So I used to get this brand that was just like pure teatri oil and use it on that. And it does wonders for my head. And I know, and maybe you know the science better than I do on this, but I know that it's supposed to be great for like bacteria, fungus, tricecate. Yeah, so all those things.

Yeah, so a lot of people who have like dandruff, it's because they get this reoccurring kind of fungal in infection on their scalp. So, Teachy-Rey oil is a good natural, it's a natural alternative to like the chemical-based shampoo. And it's normally a little expensive. So I mean, so somebody who's, if you have this issue and you're like,

oh my god, this is expensive, well, it's because it has that in that. Like if you were to buy Teachy-Rey oil by itself, it's expensive. So if you have shampoo that has, that's its base. It's normally gonna be, I've been used to paying a higher price for that for a very long time. Does it feel tingly?

Do you feel like the fresh one? No, it doesn't do like that weird tingle. Which, all that stuff is fake. Isn't that just a gimmick? It is, it's fake. It's like toothpaste, bro. Things are happening. Bubbly toothpaste is fucking fake.

It's not doing anything, you know what I'm saying? So, tingly, tingly hair shit is also fake. It's real and it has what it's supposed to have and it does what it's supposed to have. It's like, yeah, when you get toothpaste and it foams up, like, it's like, you have to have it foam up for some reason. Is that why aftershave burns? Do you think they do that on purpose? Sure.

Well, there's alcohol in it, right? Yeah, but why, I don't know. I don't know about that about aftershave. I know that about toothpaste, I know that about tingly hair stuff, like that stuff is all, that is, it doesn't make a difference. Like, that's not. I don't know. I don't know about that about aftershave. I know that about toothpaste, I know that about tingly hair stuff, like that stuff is all, that doesn't make a difference. Like that's not. I don't know that.

Yeah, it's not making an ink, you should know that. I had no idea about the tingly on the scalp. I think you're the first guy I ever seen put like baking soda on his toothpaste on your toothbrush. That's the first t-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll, that'll,

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So I didn't know anything to expect from this movie coming into it. And like basically we're in there and it was immediately stressful. And it was just like, like just this onslaught of gunfire and you know, like terrorist stuff. And I'm like, holy shit, like it's not what I need right now. You know what I'm in there with other people,

but I mean, the action was really cool and interesting and all this stuff. Christopher Nolan, the guy that did like inception, I was like, oh, of course he directed this. Dialogue was horrible. They put all their effort into like the effects and the way, because dude, the concept of it was so bizarre dude It's like basically like and I'm not gonna ruin this for people that are gonna go see it or anything

But like I didn't know the premise of it is basically like like they they were able to figure out like time Travel and so like they they reverse and so you have like two different plots that are going in reverse and then going forward And then they interact with each other. And it's just like so confusing and like you leave the fear like what the fuck just happened. Yeah. Now what was the experience in the theater? Did you have to have to separate people? You wore a mask?

Like what's the deal? Yeah. What capacity was it filled? It was like 20%. So yeah. So they had like taped off rows. And then if you go in there with a party like you just kind of stay with with you know The you know parts was like three of us, but yeah, there was there was like clusters of people spread out

You have to wear a mask while I watch the movie and the whole thing No, obviously last week they say yeah, I mean they check you as you're coming in but you know Yeah, and then how you can eat your snacks exactly. Yeah, you gotta take the bus off But the bar wasn't there anymore and that was a bummer. Hmm, so it wasn't quite a whole reason why you go in the first place exactly We call I'm going for everything Today's calls brought to you by Max and a ball like if you're looking to maximize your overall muscle and strength Santa Bolic! If you're looking to maximize your overall muscle and strength, Maths in the Bolic is the perfect place to start! With a full 30-day money back guarantee,

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Yeah, walking. So it's curting a bird dog. Yeah, basically like we're working working from one side to the other. Yeah, and essentially one side is working, one set of muscle groups with one recruitment pattern, the other side is working, would be considered maybe opposing, muscle groups or opposing recruitment patterns. Why does this benefit people?

Well, because we do a lot of things this way in a real life Every time you take a step every time you step up something or grab something very rarely is your whole body Moving together the same way, you know your arm swings forward the other one tends to swing back You step forward one leg tends to be behind and so it strengthens these kind of Functional patterns. I also like this kind of training because it tends to highlight imbalances in me. So like if I did a lunge, I can tend to see or feel one side being better

in one position than the other. For example, my right leg forward might feel stronger, more stable than when my left leg is forward. And that can tell me a lot about areas I need to focus on. Yeah, I like using crawling patterns for this lot. And I know it's not a lot of trainers utilize crawling patterns or even get into these types of positions with bird dog

and these types of things. But it's information, it's really helpful information for me to see where the disconnect is, especially when there's a problem with something you know, something with their walking, running, like anything with their gate, being able to stabilize properly and also have that communication firmly established from right to left to right,

is definitely beneficial when you get into functional movement. Well, I was gonna say, Controletal training is extremely functional. It's a, we crawl, we walk, we throw, you swing something, you take, I mean, all these, it requires you to be able to do that for one side to communicate to the other side. It also has a anti-rotational and rotational component to it many times. So the functionality of training this way, I think, is extremely important for, you know, potential, you for potential injury prevention

for just being better at everything that we do. Burdogs were like a staple movement. I didn't do crawling patterns as much as a trainer. I didn't get into animal flow type stuff till later on or even curious about that stuff, but I see the value of it now. When I see somebody who does train that or teach clients that, I think it's got tremendous value to show people how to do that. But it belongs in somewhat belongs in every routine, right?

I think, and there's examples that a walking lunge would be that also, right? So there's more basic exercises that people are familiar with that are already in your routine. Yeah, I think too, I mean, people don't really consider coordination as much. And I know we want to build and develop our muscles and we want to lose body fat and all that kind of stuff, but you know, there's a lot of value

with having like full control over your body and getting it to do what you want to do on command. And, you know, that requires a lot of this dexterity and, you know, like a coordination. And so to be able to kind of focus on that for a bit, like even if it's just in the very beginning when you're training somebody new, like how to better understand their body and like they didn't really, you know, they weren't exposed to that like when they were younger or whatever and we could still reestablish that.

I think it's very valuable. Yeah, and especially if it, if it corrects imbalances or movement pattern issues in you, then it's going to help you develop a more aesthetic physique. A lot of people, when we think of aesthetics, we tend to think about what bodybuilders will consider aesthetic or what magazine covers will consider aesthetic. But really the root of good aesthetics,

at least real life good aesthetics, comes from balance, right? Comes from the fact that I'm moving with good balance. My muscles balance each other out. One area isn't overpowering another area. And so this kind of training, besides making you move better, can actually contribute to having a physique that looks more aesthetic and balanced.

And here's a good example of the opposite of that. We all know the muscular developed individual that doesn't seem very aesthetic. Although they have big muscles, they move around and they seem muscle bound or clumsy. And so it reduces the aesthetic appeal of this person. Maps performance is one of our programs where you'll find control lateral type training,

you'll find this kind of functional based training whose side effect oftentimes is improvement in aesthetics. In fact, a lot of the gym focused people who've gotten a program like maps performance will comment and say, I expected to move better, I did not expect to look better. But now that I move better, my body's starting to look better. It's because it does a good job of identifying some

of those weaknesses and imbalances in the body. You know, speaking of an activity like Burdog, Burdog isn't some great muscle building exercise, but could it contribute to exercises that are better at muscle building and make them more effective? Absolutely. That's the way you gotta look at some of these exercises.

Yes, there are exercises that are just the best, you know, muscle building, there are exercises that are just the best, muscle building, strength building exercises, but are there other movements that can unlock the potential of those exercises and make them more effective? Because it really doesn't matter if the squat is a phenomenal muscle building exercise.

If your body is incapable of unlocking the full potential of a squat. Now, it doesn't matter that a squat is great exercise for you, it's not, because you have problems with movement. Contrilateral training is one tool and the tool about that helps unlock. It's part of that mobility application. It's part of mobility.

It's part of improving activation of muscles as part of getting you to move better. And when you move better, you can train better. And when you train better, you'll look a lot better. Next question is from Cairo's captures. Are alkaline and pH water another processed item on the market, or are they worth the money? Here's a great example of taking, maybe some applications of alkaline water and saying

there may be some benefit and then just doing it across the board. That's bastardizing it. Which is, yeah. So alkaline. It's $5 bottle of water now. Right. So water has, I think, normal waters, pH levels like 8 or 8.5 or something like that.

Something that's alkaline is over that. And oftentimes, the way that they improve its alkaline, the alkaline quality of water is by adding certain buffering minerals to the water. So now, you know, water is a little bit more alkaline, meaning it will counteract some acidity in the body. What are the potential applications? Well, I guess if you have acid reflux issues, maybe it might help a little bit,

in which case I'd say, eat a thumbs or a roll aides, which is way more alkaline, it'll solve that issue a little bit better. Or just eat non-inflammatory foods. Yeah, now is it gonna change the alkaline of the measurements of your body? Probably not, your body maintains its pH balance, pretty damn good about that.

That's how I thought they dispelled this, right? I thought they did, because the true way to test this works is to drink this stuff I thought they dispelled this, right? I thought they did, because that's how the true way to test this works is to drink this stuff and then like take a piss test, right? Isn't that how they would measure it? And like see if it's actually changing it. Yeah, your body is very, very good at maintaining

a certain pH level because if it goes a little bit outside of that, if it goes to alkaline or to acidic, it's not good. It can become quite dangerous. What you might get is a little bit more alkaline in your gut, just like eating a calcium or magnesium product like thums or role aids. Otherwise, just regular spring water. Isn't it, too, like most people that I know, in my case, specifically, I'm not producing acid when I should be producing acid. And so that's really the biggest problem that I've been facing.

And so it'll show up at night or in our opportune times where I'm needing to digest food. And it's training that to, you know, my body to really get that response while I'm eating the food. Yeah. I mean, here's the other side of it, right? If you drink water that is devoid of minerals, and it's all you drink, you could cause electrolyte to still. Yeah, distilled would be the worst, right? If you just drink distilled water,

you could cause problems, right? Because you're flushing out or causing imbalances with electrolytes. So just regular mineralized spring water, tap water, believe it or not, is fine. pH water, you're spending more money for something that does nothing for you. And what if you're not producing enough acid and you throw more alkaline, you can actually make the problem?

Yeah, I guess that's why I was getting that. Yeah, you can make the problem even worse. This is what marketers do. They'll take something that everybody knows they need more of, like water, and they'll say, how can we, in a very inexpensive way, make it seem more valuable to buy our water? So they'll say, our water's pH balance is high. What they do, they add it a little bit of magnesium to it or something like that.

Is it interesting to you guys, like, I want, Doug, do you have any idea? You're old, you have this, you probably should have a better idea. Do you remember when water would get? No, I mean invented. No, I mean, I remember as a kid, I mean, shit, we drank from the garden hose for at least a half,

a quarter of my life, I would say. So there wasn't even a four then, it was just hydrogen oxygen. Bottle water wasn't even a thing. Like you couldn't buy, you didn't go buy bottle water anywhere. Like that wasn't a thing. That was like, if you did, you were like storing for like,

you were like rich, only rich people bought like, not even that. It was like, because you're going camping or somewhere and you wouldn't be able to get to water, maybe you bought the, but other than that, nobody bought water bottles, like, right, Doug? It was like, you just drink, just drinking out of the town. Drink out, right?

And so this has to be like a multi-billion dollar industry now that didn't even exist like 20 years ago. Oh, at the time, I can remember when it first came on the market and I go, why would I pay for water? This is ridiculous. Yeah, right. We gotta start bottling up air. It's gross.

Spaceballs. Remember in Spaceballs? Yes, I know. You're gonna buy a can of air. Yeah. Oh, I did. I can't air. I think that's brilliant.

It's totally like the next move. I think that's right. Yeah, no, it's funny too, is that bottled water is one of the largest contributors to waste because of all the plastic bottles. So people are like, this is good, you know, tell them they're whatever, you've got all these plastic bottles that we're dumping into.

There's islands of plastic. Yeah, it's, no, there's no huge benefit. Just regular water is fine. Tap water is usually fine. If you feel like you need to clean it further, buy yourself a purifier so you're not wasting a bunch of plastic bottles. But pH water is largely a total gimmick.

If you're real gangster, you'll drink out of the garden hose. Yeah. Next question is from Land 3 Emma. Is foam rolling good for recovery and can it help you recover faster? Sure. I love it for this. This is, so they do studies on massage.

That's where you're going to find the studies that I'll point to this the best and say, okay, does massage, help with recovery. It's hard to measure that because there's perceived pain in which case massage helps because you feel like you're less sore. Is it actually speeding up recovery? I don't know. I think it can, but not because it's the foam rolling or massage itself is reducing the inflammation

or making the recovery faster. I think the fact that you feel less pain, now you move more, and that is what I think facilitates recovery. That's an interesting theory. Yeah, because I know if you just sit still, you're not going to recover as fast as you can. I can see that from being restrictive

like after a workout, like a full tighter, like you're less likely to get that circulation that really is the part of the recovery process. But yeah, I don't know, like it'd be interesting to see if you could like manually manipulate, I don't know how Like it'd be interesting to see if you could like manually manipulate, I don't know how. Well, you could test that. The way you would test that is you would actually,

you would massage a group of people and then they would lay in bed and do nothing. Right. And then you would massage another group of people and they would go about their day and then you would not massage somebody that's who, and so all of them would need to be really sore. Right. So the goal would be, you know, over-trained, over-reach, get everybody like really sore legs, right? Real easy doing that with squats or something, right?

So you get everybody really sore. You have one group that gets massaged and then goes about their day. So they keep moving around. You have one group that gets massaged. Lays in bed doesn't do anything. And then you have another group who doesn't do either one of them, right?

And then you measure to see what the recovery process is. And what their performance is. Yeah, you know, the more I think about it, I think, Sal, your theory makes a lot of sense. Like it's probably less to do with the actual massage itself because I mean, it's somebody who used to get massages all the time.

And that's what Katrina did, right? When we first met, you know, you could train and you're really sore. I mean, everyone's like train legs and then you had a day where you're just like, oh, you're like shuffling around. Yeah, you're stiff when you move and you see you probably limit them out. You move around because of how sore you are versus not, if you've experienced a great massage like that and you walk out and you're like, oh my god, my hips are opened up and you feel good

and you kind of go about walking. So that's probably, you're probably right. Even if there is some science of support that it's doing something for recovery, it probably has more to do with the movement and the blood flow oxygen and nutrients getting afterwards. And it depends on how it's being done. Like deep tissue massage, or you know, when people, you ever seen those foam rollers that are like made out of wood,

or when people go crazy with it, we have a super knobby one. Yeah, like when you go deep enough with massage or foam rolling, you are causing damage. You are causing a little bit, not like when you're working out, but you can cause some muscle damage. I don't think that's going to speed up recovery. I really do think it has more to do with the fact that you, because the pain is reduced, just like stretching.

I think stretching would do the same thing. Stretching gets me to move, trigger sessions. I think you're moving, you feel less pain, just like stretching. I think stretching would do the same thing. Stretching gets me to move trigger sessions. I think you're moving, you feel less pain, you move more. That facilitates recovery. Staying in bed, not moving due to whatever reason, whether it's because you're being lazy or because you're too sore, slows down recovery. It blunts the adaptation signal,

it blunts the muscle building signal because you're not moving. Like if you got really, really sore and they did not move at all, you might recover, but you're not going to build any more muscle because the signal you're sending from not moving is going to probably overpower the workout that you just did. If I hammered my legs on Monday, didn't move till the next Monday, I guarantee I wouldn't get stronger. What is it called? Is it raking or the most raky?

Yeah, the most aggressive intervention that people do and they get all bruised Rolfing, Rolfing, thank you. Yeah, yeah. No, raky is it's like energy Like they don't touch you. I went to the wrong guy Let's wonder why I was wondering why this is all like you. I thought you was gonna touch me. Yeah. You're gonna put gloves on? Yeah.

Where when does the pain start, guys? I can't keep my hands off of them. Next question is from Petro Julie. In your opinion, how credible is a personal trainer if they're not in their best shape at the moment? Yeah, in their best shape. That's a high standard, right? You know, working with a lot of trainers,

I'll tell you that the, okay, if you're really at a shape, it'll probably hurt your business. Of course, yeah, because people are gonna look at you and judge your ability to train them. That's right, business card. Yeah, but look, some of the most successful trainers ever, actually all the successful trainers ever had, the most successful ones,

none of them were the most ripped, fit-looking trainers. They definitely worked out and they took care of themselves. No, because what comes with that is obsession and those people. And I think it's rare, but if you can find somebody who can keep themselves in extremely good shape and then also has tremendous amount of humility around it, I think that's a really dangerous combination as far as, they'll be very

probably successful. But many times when we see a trainer who's absolutely jacked, they're still dealing with insecurities that drove them in that direction to be that way. And so, they tend to be more cocky, more arrogant, they're less relatable. And so it doesn't actually translate into more trainer cells as it is. So having a nice balance, right? So if you've got a definitely a physique that someone looks like, oh, he or she works out, they look great or what are like that. But maybe not so crazy that it's intimidating.

I think that's probably the sweet spot for like as far, if we're talking about like business-wise for a trainer. And then I was like, are you, he's like the only one I've met that is like, has like an insane no physique, but is still relatable, nice, you know physique, but it's still relatable and nice. Yeah, it's the relatable part. Yeah, that's a hard combo.

I mean, how do you relate? Even I had challenges relating some to, and initially when I first became a trainer because I assumed that people will hired me and were ready to jump into it with the fanaticism that I had, and it took me a second to figure out that most people don't want wanna work out all time. They don't love it so much that they'll do it all time.

I have to figure out how to relate to them and in order to communicate to them how to make this a part of their life. One, I remember one time I took a trainer or took a member off the floor and recruited them as a trainer. It was a member who lost 50 pounds, come into the gym, initially worked with a trainer,

worked out on their own, by no means that they lose the 50 pounds and look like some super ripped person. They lost 50 pounds and looked normal and relatively healthy. They didn't look like a crazy personal trainer. I recruited them and that trainer did such a good job relating to other people. In fact, other people liked hiring him because he looked like, more like they did than like the super ripped trainers. And he did very,

very well. I think you have to have a balance. I mean, I've talked to a long, it's been a long time that I brought this up on the show, but there was a time, I think it was like, I was on year five or six as a fitness manager. And up into that point, I just assumed that that had to be mandatory. Like, I can't hire a trainer who's not fit. They need to be, like, they need to be really fit for most people that, that, for me to even consider hiring them that originally. And then I thought, you know what,

like after I've been training trainers such a long time, then he meant me. Yeah. In that case, maybe you were like, no, it's kidding. You were a fan, you were a freaking football player so that you were still fit. It was there. So, no, I'm talking No, I'm talking about.

I'm talking about I actually went to an extreme level. I hired somebody that the average person wouldn't think worked out at all. But they had dropped a good 30 plus pounds themselves. They had a good story. They'd been on the journey. They had experience with their education. They had a kines degree. They had got a national certification. So they had a with their education. They had a kines degree. They had got a national certification.

So they had a good education level. They had experience losing weight, but definitely did not look the part. And so I went on this kick of like hiring some trainers that were like this to see how they would do. And being completely transparent, they didn't do very well. They had a hard time. They struggled with that because many people

are very judgmental. Right. And a lot of people ride away. If they want to change their physique, they want to be inspired by the person that that's coaching them. But to a point they don't need to be so crazy, ridiculous. They just need to be better than the person that's hiring them. That's a challenge, right? If you're somebody who's like 20 pounds overweight and your trainer is 30 pounds overweight, it's really tough for you to get inspired by them, even if they've already had a big journey, and they've lost it.

And that's not to say, I don't wanna discourage somebody who's in that situation that's having success, there's always exceptions as a rule. I've seen fat trainers do really, really well. If you've got a mouthpiece on you, you're likable, you can overcome any of that. But there is a point that I think it matters for a trainer to have an easier time being

successful, that looking relatively fit, I think, is important. But also, not being so fit that you're not relatable, because I think there's a part of people that want to see something that's actually kind of attainable, too. Like, if you see someone who looks like a cover model, sometimes people just bright it off. Like I'll never look at that girl or that girl. Yeah, and also, I also look, the most successful trainers I've ever worked with

had the right attitudes. They really had a passion for health and fitness. Now the side effect of that usually means that they're pretty fit because they believe what they're preaching. Right. So I don't know if it's necessarily, except for the extremes, the fact that they looked fit that attracted clients, I think it's more that they actually believed in what they talked about and the side effect of that being that they lived that lifestyle as well.

And that's what made them successful trainers. Well, it's really, it's the passion. And the thing is, regardless of what they look like, if you can see how much they're trying to, they've tried to improve themselves and how passionate they are about fitness, that's gonna come across. And so, unfortunately, you're gonna see that with some trainers that really don't put a lot of attention

into themselves, and they don't take themselves that seriously, that's gonna come across to the client. And so you just gotta to check yourself on that. Are you yourself trying your best to, you know, present yourself in a certain way? The consumer sometimes too is like, they don't know what the hell they're looking at. Like, I've had trainers that don't look super fat. Like they're not red. They don't have abs.

And maybe they're carrying a little bit of extra body fat, but shit, they're mobile as hell, they're strong as hell, like they have other attributes that they care, they care less about the way they look. They're like, I'm not hung up on trying to be, you know, single-digit body fat percentage, but they're deeply passionate about mobility and strength and being functional.

And so maybe the average consumer who's been marketed to all the time by these billboards or ads and magazines, if this is what a trainer should look like, they assume that, oh, if they don't look like this, they're a lazier or less intelligent type of a trainer, which that couldn't be further than from the truth. Because there's many times there's trainers that actually are very secure with who they are. They don't give a shit about comparing themselves to the next guy or a guy or a girl that's super ripped,

they care about the other aspects of health and fitness and until you meet that trainer get to talk to them, you may not know that. So I would caution consumers. That's a good point because then you look at the opposite, like a consumer who doesn't know any better may look at someone who's shredded and think, oh, that's a good trainer, not realizing that that person has bad relationship with food, they severely restrict themselves or they binge when a show is over that they have zero balance in their lives

or fanatics to the point where it's unhealthy. And so looking at them, you're like, that person understands how to help me develop a lifelong relationship with fitness and health. When in reality, that person doesn't even know how to do it for themselves, let alone do it for another client. And I've seen those trainers, and I've seen the way that they train their clients and it's

like the way they train themselves. Here's your meal plan, follow this, stick to it. Here's your cheat days, eat whatever you want. This is when you can go, oh, here's how you're going to restrict your water because you're going to go to the beach and I'm like, what are you teaching your client? This is not the way to, you know, produce success with people. Look, my pump is recorded videos, as well as audio. Come check us out on YouTube MindPump Podcast.

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