Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1389: The Whole Body Effect of Training Individual Muscles, Training for First Responders, Life Changing Early Life Lessons & More

Episode Date: September 26, 2020

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about whether the muscle building signal you send when you perform resistance training is specific to only the muscles you train or if it can have an overall effect on the body, training for the firefighter academy, the benefit to sitting cross-legged for hip mobility, and realizations they had in their 20’s that changed their life. Justin’s proud father moment. (5:31) Mind Pump’s biggest insecurities. (9:20) Justin ‘vegan-ish’ day. (12:12) Studies with Sal. (15:33) How Instagram is slowing turning into a PG-13 version of Porn Hub. (19:53) Amazon’s bike snafu. (24:01) Zoom is crushing! (28:12) Magic Spoon, catering to their audience. (31:44) The safety of gyms in the COVID-19 era. (34:36) Is Joe Rogan being censored by Spotify? (37:46) The booming market of customizable pillows. (46:25) #Quah question #1 - Is the muscle-building signal you send, when you perform resistance training, specific to only the muscles you train, or can it  have an overall effect on the body? I recently sustained a knee injury and can’t do lower body training. I am trying to preserve muscle. (48:14) #Quah question #2 – I'm training for the firefighter academy. I’m 6’1”, 195 pounds, and have been following MAPS Anabolic. Which program should I choose next, and should I be at maintenance or bulk? I need to be running with 75 pounds of equipment. (52:54) #Quah question #3 – I spend most of my day on a chair due to online classes. Is there any benefit to sitting cross-legged for hip mobility or should I just do exercises to prevent low back pain? (58:05) #Quah question #4 – What realizations did you have in your 20’s that changed your life? (1:03:03) Related Links/Products Mentioned MAPS Fitness Products A healthy diet is more important than your weight when it comes to risk of death, study finds - ABC News Amazon disavows $500 ‘Prime Bike,’ says it has no formal connection to the product Echelon made a $500 version of its connected spin bike for Amazon Prime (updated) Eric Yuan Net Worth: Zoom Founder Made $12 Billion In 6 Months Visit Magic Spoon for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Health Clubs Are Not Spreading COVID-19, Study Finds Community and Close Contact Exposures Associated with COVID-19 Among Symptomatic Adults ≥18 Years in 11 Outpatient Health Care Facilities — United States, July 2020 IS SPOTIFY ALREADY CENSORING JOE ROGAN? Joe Rogan Is Already a Headache for Spotify AllSides | Balanced news via media bias ratings Visit Pluto Pillow for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Promo code “MINDPUMP” at checkout for 10% off** Z Press to take Your Shoulder Development to the Next Level MAPS Prime Pro Webinar Mind Pump Podcast - YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Max Lugavere (@maxlugavere)  Instagram Joe Rogan (@joerogan)  Instagram

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Saldas Defano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this episode of Mind Pump, the World's Top Ranked Fitness Health and Entertainment Podcast, we answer lots of fitness and health questions that are asked by our listeners. But the way we open the episodes with an introductory portions where we talk about current events,

we talk about investments, real life things. Talk about the stock market, the real estate market, we talk about news, article studies on fitness. We have a lot of fun. That part of the episode is 44 minutes after that is when we answered the pure fitness and health questions. By the way, if you wanna see all the topics and just go to the part that you wanna listen to the most,

in other words, their timestamp, go to mindpumppodcast.com. All right, so let's go through the whole episode today. We start out by talking about Justin's proud father moment. He taught his children a very, very important lesson that only fathers can teach. Tired of my eye. Then Justin talked about his children a very, very important lesson that only fathers can teach. I'm gonna tear it to my eye. Then Justin talked about his vegan days.

It's a Justin vegan day though, so don't get excited. All your vegans out there. There was meat involved still. That was close. Then when I talked about a study on diet, apparently eating healthy food, even if you're overweight is better

than eating an appropriate amount of calories with unhealthy food. Kind of a interesting study. Then Justin brought up fake yoga Instagram pages. We know what you're trying to do with those poses. Yeah, come on. You're not teaching yoga. Yeah, we know you're doing. Then we talk about Amazon's bike snafu.

The other day, it looked like Amazon was releasing an exercise bike to compete with Peloton. Now they're saying they're not affiliated at all. What the hell happened? Interesting. Then I tell you about how magic spoon is one of our more popular partners. They make cereal that is made with high quality protein. It's high protein cereal with no sugar that tastes like the sugary kids cereal you grew up with.

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And because you listen to Mind Pump, you get a discount. Go to magicspoon.com-forthslash-mind-pump to get that discount. Go to magicspoon.com-forward-slash-mind-pump to get that discount. Then I talk about Zoom. Now Zoom is a company that produces video conferencing. They seem to be crushing right now, so we speculate as to why they're doing so well over other companies like Skype. Then I talk about how gyms are actually quite safe during the COVID area, some new studies have come out showing that you're more likely to get COVID in many, many other places that are deemed essential.

So they should open gyms back up. Open our gyms. Then we talk about Joe Rogan, maybe getting censored by Spotify, good luck Spotify, good luck trying to censor Joe Rogan. Then we talk about customizable pillows. These are pillows that you can enter in your height and your information.

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Then we got into the fitness questions. Here's the first one. When you work out, do you build just the muscle that you're working or is then there an anabolic effect for the whole body? Next question, this person is trained to be a firefighter, wants to know what maps work out program to follow. We recommended maps performance. By the way, we have lots of different maps, workout programs, all designed for different

people and different goals you can find all of them at mapsfitinistproducts.com. Next question, this person sits all day long at work, wants to know if there are better ways to sit to prevent low back pain and the final question. This person wants to know what realizations we all had in our 20s that changed our life. By the way, you heard me mention earlier all of our maps programs. Let me give you a little bit of detail here.

Maps programs are workout programs, you follow online. So you sign up, you see the exercises, how much reps, how many sets, you follow online so you sign up, you see the exercises, how much reps, how many sets, you follow the video form so we teach you the technique and form and these workouts are written by real personal trainers. We're not Instagram fitness celebrities, we're not fake trainers, we're real trainers. We are not bots. So these programs actually work, we have many, many different maps, programs designed for

different people. By the way, all the programs also come with a mod for at-home workouts. So if you're at home right now, you don't have access to a gym. All you have is a dumbbell. You can follow all of our maps programs. We do have a maps program for people with no weights whatsoever, just resistance bands. That one's called maps anywhere. But the point is look, go to mapsfitinistproducts.com,

go there, read about the programs, find the one that suits you best. The most effective workout you ever do is the one that is best for your goals and your body. So go to mapsfitinistproducts.com, look through the programs, pick the best one for you, sign up, try it out for 30 days, if it doesn't blow your mind, return it for a full refund. Oh, you guys, it was so funny

last night. I had this proud dad moment, right? And I'm thinking, Courtney's like, the kids have to show you something. And so they've been, they got back into school and they've been doing all the stuff, like online learning and all this stuff. And so I'm figuring that it's something related to academics and you know, something cool they learned or they have like some science thing that they experimented with, which you know, all these things have happened before.

And I'm like, okay, cool, yeah. You know, come show me. Both boys like walk up to me. I'm like sitting at the dinner table without their shirts on. I'm like, huh? And then they both start armpit farting. Oh, wow.

And I stopped and I just like, Joe, I almost cried. It was magical. I didn't even teach him that. Where did they learn that? Dude, I remember that. That was a big thing back in a day, remember that? Yeah, I thought that died, you know?

I just remember having so much joy because you just figure that out and you're like, please, please, please, please. I used to do this thing where I would, I'd pretend to cough so I'd have my hand over my mouth and then I'd blow it and then I'd make a fart noise on my hand. It was the funniest thing.

All the girls laughed in fourth grade when I did that. Oh yeah, I mean, you're a big hit if you can make noises. The girls laugh, here's a little thing, well I'm sure every man listening knows this. If girls laugh at you, especially, you're a big hit if you can make noises. The girls laugh, here's a little thing, well, I'm sure every man listening knows this, if girls laugh at you, especially when you're a kid, you're doing that all the time. Uh-huh. Even if they only like it.

They laugh once, you're like, this is what I'm gonna do forever. Cause it's hilarious. Yeah. And if they say they like a shirt, I'm wearing that shirt every day. Just don't burn their hair. I feel left out in this conversation.

I don't remember having any good skills like that for sure. What do you mean? Yeah, I don't think so. You're the fashion guy. Yeah, I don't know, I don't think. Yeah, I was left out in this conversation. I don't remember having any good skills like that for sure. What do you mean? Oh, yeah, I don't think so. You're the fashion guy. Yeah, I don't know. I was right. I was just handsome. You said no, I was not. That was my skill. Don't say that to people. I guess you know, that's why I do I have a I've seen pictures of who you were kid. You're a good-looking kid. That was wrong., actually it took a while for you to tolerate it, right? You were not a bad looking kid at all. Like bro, I had, okay, my two front teeth were completely crooked.

I mean, like totally turned in. It looked like I chewed on rocks. Yeah, your drill wasn't really weird. Yeah, so first of all pictures you look back at, you don't even see me smiling. You see me with my mouth closed, right? So that was my move forever. Okay, so that, okay. And then I'm wearing you know that back then you know

baggy clothes were in fashion so if I was standing in something that was more fitted you'd realize that I was like a buckle fun. Like a scarecrow? Yeah dude I like a scarecrow with like fucked up teeth. There was nothing there was nothing really sexy. Yeah but you still had you still wear handsome I saw the pictures dude. Give you your swag. I appreciate that.

Yeah I had a lot of personality. Yeah, I had a lot of personality Huh? I had a lot of personality. Your son's adorable. He looks a lot like you He's good. He is good looking, but I think he takes after his mother. That's where he is Well, she's good looking too. That's where he gets that from you can't go wrong But he's a cute kid. I think you did all right with the genetics there Yeah, does he have the cat as he had the calves? He does he's got your cap. does. He's got your calves? No, he's got her calves. Oh, yeah. He got her legs.

She didn't praise Odin. Oh, that was part of, come on, let's see. That's why you waited. He kept pranking God. Listen, I'm not gonna do this unless you give him a good job. I was like, I'm waiting for the right woman that has got, I mean, that's one of Katrina's best, you know, physical features as her legs, dude.

She's got amazing legs. So, it's a cool, yeah. Jessica's got, I knew better, dude. I was like, I'm waiting, I'm waiting for this girl with great calves. Jessica's got long muscle bellies everywhere. Her calves come down. Luckily, she's got small joints, so it doesn't look like a cancels.

She got long calves, long quads, tries to... I told you guys, when the doctor did the ultrasound or whatever, he was, wow, look at these calves. They're sturdy. And I look at her, I'm like, yeah, sturdy, sturdy calves. Yeah, that's why I think it's a boy though, I'm like, yeah, sturdy, sturdy calves. Yeah, no, sturdy calves. That's why I think it's a boy though,

because you don't say that about a girl baby. I feel like you wouldn't say that about a girl baby. I don't know. No one's ever told me I have sturdy calves, that's for sure. No, there's a reason for that. I would have lit up for sure. You know when you know it's such a big insecurity is I can literally remember every time

I've been complimenting on my calves. This is life changing. Yes, there's like five times in my entire life. You know what I'm saying? We're so what a sense. And they're like, hey, man, you go great caps. I know. What?

Was that your biggest insecurity? This is my pocket insult for you guys. Yeah. Well, we've already processed the Justin. It doesn't work. I know. I know. You know, it's funny is that we get, I think that I just got one in the day.

Somebody, I think somebody on one of the Instagram posts like just like jab that and I'm like Yeah, okay, that's that's funny. It's not very originally I've already jabbed it myself enough times It's like you're talking to somebody's had therapy on it. I'm fine now have come full circle You can't bother me with that. Are there any body parts like what was your biggest insecurity body parts? You know, I mean? Yeah, my, my cap. Yeah, yeah, 100% because even when,

you know, even when I, when I started working out and stuff, like yeah, everything, you know, I mean, I, I most certainly was not like a, didn't have the great muscle building, genetics didn't pack on a lot of muscle, but I mean, just nothing happened to the caps, like nothing, it just didn't respond. You just got pain here. Yeah, exactly. They just got vaniere. You who just didn't respond. You just got pain in your head.

Yeah, exactly, they just got vaniere. You know what I'm saying? They just got more veins in them, that's all that happened. Vaniere and pusing. And so, and I'm already a long guy, right? So I'm six, three, and I have long legs. And so I feel like it looks worse.

Like if I was five, three, they may not look so skinny, right? If I was like more short and compact, but because I'm stretched out, yeah, I think that was a long time in secret. I had mine was always these bony shoulders. And it's just a weird thing, you know? And it's just something that's like, when I'm skinny,

when I don't have a lot of muscle, it's really pronounced. And I didn't even bother me until people kept bringing it up in a locker room or I met a pool or something. And so I started doing nothing but shrugs and I was trying to get my traps to get built as much as possible and my neck was all huge from football and everything. And finally, I could kind of put that one here.

Here, hearing Justin talk about body insecurities about building muscles. Hearing a model talk about like, oh, I'm so bad. He's just like, shut up. I had to stop eating this one thing. Yeah, I had to talk to a two hard gainers. I mean, I'm looking at you like, shut up. You don't know what the hell's going on.

When I was a kid, it was chest. That was a body part of mine that was in, Justin still pokes at it, asshole. But you know, it's funny. So that was a big thing for me, right? Because I love you. Growing up, it was my chest. I can't, it's not growing or whatever. And we got on the YouTube channel, or this was early when we first started with YouTube.

And I did a video and somebody literally copied to the deep week chest. Like that's it. That's just, yeah, at the time like 37 years old, you know, my grown man, but I read down there. Oh, that's still there. Yeah, it's still there. I haven't processed that with, you know, so, anyway, so how's your vegan days going? I saw you put it. Yeah, what? I put that I wanted to share this with you. Yeah, so I was eating this, this bowl by choice. You just ran out of groceries. Well, okay. So basically, what Courtney decided to do was basically lower the amount of meat. And so we're eating this bowl, which was like, she calls it egg roll and a bowl. So there's all this ground meat on top with cabbage and rice and everything.

And I look and it's like all rice and cabbage, but you couldn't really tell because there was still all the meat on the top, but like she had, she had lessen the portion by half. And so I was like, what? So I guess this is my vegan day now. So your vegan day is just last meet. Yeah. Yeah, I'm like, we're trying to do to me here.

I don't think that's vegan. No, that's as vegan as I'm gonna go. Now does she pull the tricks on you? Cause moms do this. And the really Jessica does this. She she does she's very good at this where she'll Change the look of food so that my daughter doesn't think it's a lot Social eat it more for example rather than cutting up meat and spreading it out over the plate She'll keep it from being cut so it looks like it's less so my daughter's more likely teed it so it sounds like you're like your wife

Yeah, it was sneaky. You guys should have seen it. It was the thin layer. It looked just like normal. Everything was normal and like the kids were eating and everything's fine. But like, like, man, I am just not getting, like, satisfied or full or anything. And I'm like, wait a minute.

Like, there's barely me in here. And she's just like, yeah, we used like a quarter of the portion. Dude, you know, does that sometimes? It's a very Chipotle. Really annoying. Has does that sometimes? How dare you? Chipotle. Really annoying. Has that happened to you? We go to get a Chipotle and you don't pay attention and you get your thing and you're like,

I thought about taking picture of the guy that does that, so I know. Really? Yeah, so I come back and be like, this is the light-handed guy. Yeah, where's the heavy scoop? Yeah, where's my heavy-handed guy? I got a burrito from there.

First of all, whoever wrapped it, didn't mix things properly, so one bite is all guacamole. The next one's all right. So I'm like, I'm not trying to eat this burrito from there. First of all, whoever wrapped it, didn't mix things properly. So one bite is all guacamole. The next one's all rice. I'm like, I'm not trying to eat this burrito on stages. And then the meat was like half a serving. You know, that conversation that reminds me of bringing up that to the audience, right?

That doesn't know this is that you gotta be really careful when you go out to eat a lot and you take the calorie or the nutrition guides seriously. Oh yeah. You know, like they have to put those up, those are guidelines, right? So that's something by law.

They never like they have to do. It's never, and that's such a perfect example like that you could get one person who's super heavy-handed and then somebody who's like, and probably the person whose light-handed is probably giving you the real four ounce portion size they're supposed to. You're just used to like getting an extra two or three ounces. But I mean real quickly that that serving can be off by like three to five hundred calories easily.

I'm like I have a little calm out on it right away. I'm like, oh you guys trying to cook costs today. What are we doing here? Yeah, okay, sprinkle a little more on there. Well, if I'm there while they're scooping it, so if I say extra meat, this is something I figured out. Don't say extra meat until they give you the first scoop. That is a great strike. You got it, you do?

That's a great strike. Because it's a nice pack, great. If you say extra meat before they give you the first scoop, they lessen the first scoop for some damn reason. So now I don't say nothing. They do the same thing with cheese. Once they drop it, then I'm like, Oh, you know what, I want double meat.

By the way, throw another one of those on there. And you can tell the dudes, like, you got me. You fooled me. That is a Chipotle hack right there. Kill me in the environment. Such a, hey, dude, I read this really good nutrition study that I just read right now.

So this is very interesting. So fascinating. One of the first studies that I can think of that kind of points to something that may be a little different than what I think the health and fitness space tends to promote. So researchers from Uppsala University followed 79,000 people in a 20-year study, which looked at the link between body mass index, so your weight, adherence to a Mediterranean-style diet, so you guys are familiar with that, right? So it's like fish, good meat, vegetables, fruits, nuts,

legumes, that type of, very natural whole foods based diet, and risk of death. So they looked at weight Mediterranean-style diet and risk of death, so trip off this. It turns out that those who followed the Mediterranean-style diet, even the people who followed it that were in the overweight category had a low risk of dying. In other words, people in the obese category that followed Mediterranean style diet did not have a significantly higher risk of death compared to those regardless of having normal BMI.

Now people in the normal weight category who didn't have a Mediterranean diet had a higher risk of death than people in any weight category who did follow the diet. Then even the ones that were in the morbidly obese category. Well, a lot more. I think it was just obese. So in other words, if you eat healthy with like whole natural foods or whatever, but you're overweight, according to the study, if you eat healthy and you're overweight, you're going to be healthier than someone who's the right weight, but doesn't eat necessarily healthy. What an interesting study, I'm gonna have

the poke holes in it though here. So 79,000 people over 20 years. I don't know if I've had a client follow a diet for one year or been accurate with what they're giving you and what they've been eating. Well, that's a little, I don't know, bro. It's epic. You know, you're right. It's these are all survey based.

This is why diet studies are so terrible. Terrible. Yes. But it is interesting to me. I mean, the conversation is interesting, right? I think that is an interesting conversation. And it warrants speculation around that. That, hey, the same person overweight 30 pounds

has a lower chance of dying by eating whole natural foods versus somebody who's the same person, same way, but eating more process. Well, playing devil's advocate, right? There may be a little bit of, I don't know what factors they control, but let's imagine the person who maybe is 15, 20 pounds overweight that does eat a Mediterranean style diet.

Are they more likely to be active? What about nutrients? Maybe people who were normal weight, who didn't eat that style of a diet, although the calories matched. Maybe their nutrient levels weren't great. So they had higher risk of nutrient deficiencies. There's a lot of factors that we would have.

What was the desired outcome of that study? Like, why? They wanted to see what, because Mediterranean style diets have now been shown in many, many, many of these studies to be healthy, just generally. And I think what they wanted to see was, what if they're overweight, how much does that account for the health, you know, issues or whatever versus just the diet? How much much of food itself plays a factor in it? Yes. It's really interesting, right? It is interesting.

So in the Mediterranean diet, isn't that, like it's heavy on like omega-3s and, yeah, it's heavy on fish, it's heavy on eels, and lots of lasagna and I'm just kidding. No, it's a heavy fish diet, right? It's more fish. Fish that are legumes. There's vegetables.

It was one of the few diets I actually, when clients would come to me and ask, like, hey, I want to follow a diet routine. I was like, okay, I'm game for this. It's not low in fat, that's for sure. But the fats are like olives, cheeses, fish. They you know, they'll have a lot of fish in their diet. So it's a pretty, pretty good diet. You're right, I do the same thing with clients.

Yeah, paleo and Mediterranean, generally speaking, are like the whole 30s, kind of something that I throw out there. Yeah, they're kind of decent right? Yeah, they came later, but that once they did it now. Yeah, yeah, no, I agree. I think whole 30 is one of the best. Yeah, I would agree.

The concept is a great place for a lot of people to start. Yeah, I would totally agree. Dude, you know, one of the things I love about social media are the trends that you start to see people following. They start to copy each other. Just then pointed one out that is hilarious. Oh my God, yeah, we're gonna talk about this. Dude, what is it?

Okay, okay. Let me say, so basically I was just looking at my normal feed and just like what, you know, obviously there's some butt models in there, you know, like they just kind of show up every now and then. One of them was a yoga enthusiast, yoga practitioner, and they were doing moves that I'm just, I'm wondering if those are legit moves

and they're just like very invasively photographed moves. Yeah. So these are, so he like sexual yoga poses. Yeah, so he points it out. He's like, look at this. He goes, these are fake yoga pages, but the really like women just like, like look at this yoga pose,

but it's a, it's like a spread eagle pose. Yeah. With the crotch or a bent over. And it's just like zoomed all the way up in there. Every position. So he's like, dude, look at this. And then, you know, when you look at one page, it shows other pages or whatever,

I'm like, oh my god, this is a trend. It's all and none of them are like really yoga pages. It's really like, you know, it's like they've, yeah, they've transitioned from, you know, all the G strings to now, it's like they've, yeah, they've transitioned from all the G-strings to now. It's all yoga pants doing like very provocative poses. I feel like slowly but surely Instagram is turning into like a PG-13 version of PornHub.

Oh, everything. Yeah, it is. Yeah, I feel like that. And it's making like the perfect segue into only fans pages, right? Where it's like, okay, oh, there's a category for this. Somebody wants like super sexual yoga stuff. I wonder how much that company is making.

Because they're providing the platform for all these. Yeah, look that up, Doug. That's a good question. And influencers to just drive people to, and they gotta be making a cut off of every transaction. That's a good question. Why might I not look that up? All the things I've looked up around,

I've looked at up, Doug, I'm curious about how only fans, only fans company page, whatever, I don't know what it is. Yeah, they got to be making a percentage for sure. Yeah, and we never talked about the cameo that other business that was popped up out of nowhere, which you could basically pay a celebrity or an old celebrity to do a shout out to one of your friends or whatever. I guess some people have really used that to make a lot of money off of. And I think Michael Rappepore is one of the main ones

that's been killed in there. So they pay you to just say, oh, happy birthday to John Smith from whatever. Or like rant about something or whatever. I feel like celebrities, because did you guys see the read about the ratings of the last, what is it, the more so? Was it the Emmys?

What are the Taint? T it, the most show, was it the Emmys? Yeah, it's tanked. Like tanked, they're just becoming irrelevant. Like the old school celebrities are becoming irrelevant. And then right now, because- I saw some awkward clips. Yeah, me too. But they're not, like they can't produce shows, they can't do their normal things.

I feel like they're trying to make money. Yeah, yeah. And it's like how do we stay in everybody's feed and be relevant and so they're It's it I don't know that whole thing with the shy La Booth to or whatever like where he was so Did you watch that video? It's so good. You know they did they did like a reading so they did this for charity Um, I wish I remember what the charity was name Shail La Booth Shyla, but I don't know I just got to say it fast, right? What's the name, Shayla LeBouffe? Yeah, I don't know.

I just got to say it fast. Right. So they did a charity event where they got all these celebrities together. And I think it was Morgan Freeman who read the basically the script for Fast Times at Ridge, not Fast Times. What was the other popular one where it's the Pocollis one? Yeah, that's Fast Times. Oh, is that, is this, oh yeah, that is Fast Times, right?

Yeah. So they read that, right? So they read is fast times right? Yeah, so they read that right? So they read this screenplay of that, Morgan Freeman and then all the famous people acted out characters, they read their lines. And so he was spikoli. And so he embraced the character by in his car, smoking weed.

He just stole the show, it was absolutely hilarious. That probably one of the best things I've seen celebrities do in the sense this whole COVID thing's been going on, I've seen a lot of stupid stuff happen, a lot of crap going on. That was cool. Fur cool cause got together a lot of big A-list actors

and actresses and they put together this great little thing for charity and he just killed it. Oh yeah, check out the watch. Hey, you know how you brought up the other day, Adam, about Amazon entering into the at home workout equipment. Eschelon bike. Yeah, they introduced the bike to compete with Peloton. I saw the article you're alluding to.

Yes, dude. So weird. This is really weird now. Amazon was apparently part of this company or whatever, all of a sudden, they put out a statement. No, we're not part of that company. That's not we're not doing anything with them. They completely just, so they just ghosted them.

What happened is I think that original article came out by Eschlombike saying that they partnered up with Amazon and created this and they were calling it, even the Amazon bike, right? They were calling bike. Yeah, the prime bike is what they were calling it. And right, so 24 hours later or less, an article came out that said that Amazon has no affiliation

with them to the point where they pulled off selling the buy. So some shit went down. Something happened with that whole situation and there's not a lot of information. Oh, this is so fresh. This just came out because literally we were reading the other article a day ago and it was saying how that's the prime bike and that this is gonna be this new competitor and now their Amazon's coming out and saying they have no affiliation with them and they're also pulling that bike to even be sold on Amazon. And I wonder what went down.

Meanwhile, Peloton stock. So what happened apparently, so it says here, so Eschelon on Tuesday announced the so-called prime bike. That's what they called it. They called it Amazon's first ever connected fitness product. That was developed in collaboration with Amazon. Tuesday evening, Amazon's like, no, they denied it. They denied that they were involved with the partnership.

And then they told Eschelon to stop selling the prime bite and change its branding. That's weird. That's weird. That's so strange that that would work out. I mean, were they ever in business? Or was this just somebody like cutting the cord? You know, like, no, we're not gonna do this.

No way, dude, you would never be able to get away with saying Amazon Prime by like that. Well, so, I don't know. So an Amazon spokesperson, literally said this, this bike is not an Amazon product or related to Amazon Prime. Eschelon does not have a formal partnership with Amazon. We're working with Eschelon to clarify this

in its communications, stop the sale of the product and change the product branding. Then there's an Eschelon spokesperson who comes out and says in a statement that the product was built by the company to sell exclusively on Amazon and Eschelon is working to rebrand the product to get it back up for sale as soon as possible.

What a terrible start. Whoa, why though? Is this a strategy on their part to basically, well, I don't know, try to get them a position high in Amazon by sort of like, building it like it's part of Amazon? This smells like to me, like something either,

or something happened exactly. Like Amazon, not happy with the company or Amazon. For them to not want to be. That's what found something out. That's how I feel. Like something or a liability issue or something that came out that said, okay, we do not want to be affiliate.

Cause the article I read too, so it said that they were, it was all about, there was a partnership they had say in part of like how they were gonna develop this bike. Like there, so it wasn't like, it's not like a company was a partnership they had say in part of like how they were going to develop this bike like there. So it wasn't like, it's not like a club, but he coming out was trying to piggyback off their name and make a name for themselves. That's not what's going on here. There'd be lawsuits involved. Yeah. Yeah. Right. If there was, if it was, you know, if we started a bike and we decided to put out fake news

at Google, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We would get sued. Yeah, we would get sued for that. And so there's no lawsuits happening here, but they pulled the bike from being sold, and they're claiming that they're need to re-brand it, which makes me feel like, okay, it was the bike kind of shitty, and right away people were saying something, giving negative reviews on it, and then Amazon quickly was like, hey, we don't want to be tied to this thing.

What if Amazon releases its own bike soon? Well, why wouldn't it? Yeah, I mean, yeah. That'd be crazy. Dude, speaking of companies, you know, that Yeah, I mean. Yeah. That's, I mean, that'd be crazy. Dude, speaking of companies. You know, that's one of the things that nothing interrupt you, but that's a cool conversation too. You know, that's one of the things that's harped on

about companies like Amazon, like Google. Well, that's what they get criticized for. Right, is that they can use all their data to, like, go in and look at like the best products and then go and make them. What's selling the best and how can we recreate this and undercut them somehow? Yeah, well, I mean, that's a very smart strategy, if you think about it. So speaking of companies, Zoom crushing on the market right now, they hit 500 today.

Wow. The shares? Zoom hit 500 to share today. Did they? You know what's crazy about that whole story? Is what the hell happened with, what's the other video conferencing? I can't believe I forgot.

The little blue cloud one. No, the one that we used for podcasting at Sucked all the time, Doug. Skype? Skype. Yeah, it's a blue cloud. Why did, how the hell did Zoom just step over Skype all the time?

I don't know where. It just kills it. How did that happen? I maybe dug, you know, I think that the, is it just they just had so much of a better product? I think the experience on Zoom, and I think Zoom did a better job, correct me if I'm wrong, did a better job of catering to corporate and companies and stuff like that to connect them, where Skype was more like a free, easy product that just any consumer could tap into and use,

where I think Zoom put a little more effort into trying to dominate the- Skype was more like a free, easy product that just any consumer could tap into and use, where I think Zoom put a little more effort into like trying to dominate the... Yeah, because yeah, yeah, that and yeah, Google Hangouts and then you had like one from Cisco that was like trying to do this like, in conference, like video conferencing and I'd never even heard of Zoom and then all of a sudden,

that was the standard, it was crazy. It's really strange to me because if Skype owned it and then all of a sudden, it kind of felt like they own that market and then all of a sudden that was the standard. It was crazy. It's really strange to me because if Skype owned it and then all of a sudden it kind of felt like they own that market and then COVID happened and Zoom just, I just don't think that market was that big yet. I mean, I think that, yeah, I think okay, if you had an Apple phone, you were using the Apple to use your video, right?

But before Apple, Skype was, before Apple had the really good technology to where we could call each other, conference each other, and face to thank you. Face to them was looking for that word. So before Apple was doing FaceTime, Skype was already around and being developed. So Skype was, Skype originally was cool

because you could call somebody and look at them through your computer and you could watch them. And that was before the technology got really good with Apple. Then Apple gets better with their technology. It leapfrog Skype. Now you no longer use Skype. Why use Skype?

My Apple phone does the conference, or does the calling so I could see my friend or why for girlfriend or whatever, just fine. And then, and at that time, Cisco's still around. So Cisco's got there, and they, at that time, as far as I'm aware, was one of the best video conferencing platforms that were out there. So aware, was one of the best video conferencing platforms that were out there.

So Skype really was kind of like this. I felt like for the, I don't know, average person who just wanted to do a video call, and they provided kind of a free, easy platform to have access to. The podcastes were using Skype. Right, originally, right? So that was kind of the place to go.

And then again, Cisco was kind of on the kind of corporate world. I feel like Zoom kind of took over. It's easy to use appearance from what I've read. It's super easy to use. Not spammy. There's not lost spam on it like with Skype. It's like average person can use Zoom very easily apparently. But what a success story, right? It just out of nowhere this company comes in and literally destroys. I mean, there's stock from my, I don't know, 50, 60 bucks to $500. What do you see as the difference, Doug?

Well, I feel like Skype is more person to person. Right. And then if you want to record, I think you have to have like third party plugins and things like that. Zoom is more of a platform for corporate use, individuals who want to have multiple people on, want to record their conference, and besides, I feel like Skype,

once it got acquired by Microsoft, became their red-headed stepchild, and they put no more effort or energy into it. So I just think Zoom is a superior platform. When it missed opportunity by Skype, they gave that up. That's crazy. Speaking of successful companies, probably one of the best partnerships we've ever had, opportunity by Scott. They gave that up. That's crazy. Speaking of successful companies, probably one of the best partnerships we've ever had based off of the DMs I get is gotta be magic spoon. It's gotta be. I get at least killing it. I get a dozen at least DMs a day of people

taking pictures or whatever of them eating their magic spoon and they'll post up the macros, no sugar, high protein or whatever. Loving it, just absolutely loving it. Oh, I remember the first time that we, I remember the first time that Max introduced it to us and we all tasted it. And I mean, I wasn't even on our radar. Like, there's so many like claims to like high protein cereal and healthy cereal.

It's low sugar, no sugar. Yeah, and of course, being a bunch of fitness nerds tried most all of them out. And so to be honest, I wasn't even that excited about it when it first came on. I looked at it as I was at a box, I'm like, okay, that's kind of like lame branding. I'm like, you know, they're claim, it's like whatever.

But it's the taste, dude. When you, I mean, of course the macros are phenomenal, but I've seen other products out there with great macros, but the taste like garbage, the fact that they found a way To get those that macro profile to taste that good. It's the whole I love it because to besides what you guys bring up, but like they really listen to their Subscribers and people that are buying these products you see things Like the variety pack and those little mini like that reminds of Backwin, I would go camping and you don't only get the good cereal when

you go camping. I think they're really in tune with a lot of the nostalgia of why we really loved the sugary cereal when we were kids, but they removed a lot of the like insanely unhealthy qualities about it and created something that you could like be excited about not feel like terrible. Do you guys remember when they made the, so they had the variety pack of little boxes which was just a dream when you were a kid right? Because now you could have all of them.

Yeah. Do you guys remember when they made the little boxes so you could turn them on the side and open the like kind of cut out whatever, and then pour milk in there. Do you remember that when they did that? What? There was a period there where there was a way where you could use the small box, open it up in the middle,

and use it like a bowl and eat cereal out of it. Well, that's smart, but yeah, I just remember I was always disappointing because it never had like cinnamon toast crunch and I'm like, how dare you? You know, it was like frosted flags max has to have Yeah, are you looking that up cuz that captain never heard of it? I think that just sells ghetto ass used to do that That's it. It's all that second. He's like you remember when they went

I'm not the wrong that's your mom told him that your broke ass You guys didn't have a bullet you guys couldn't afford both a cereal So you can turn your cardboard box to balls stop talking shit I see you one time, warm up a tortilla on the stove and put butter on it, need it. Hey, we're the cinnamon two, hey, hey, look out, guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. Hey, so I came across some interesting studies and information on the safety of gyms in the COVID era. And this completely just blows in the face of all these politicians who are making gyms the last damn place on Earth that they can reopen. So there was one study, huge one, right? This is a study on 49 million health club visits.

And out of 49 million health club visits, and here's the thing with gyms, they have good tracking because they're members. So if somebody's sick, they can track them, they can figure out what's going on. So the statistics from gyms are better than you would find at our restaurant or somewhere else where you don't have a membership, they don't necessarily know who you are. Not only home. Right. So 49 million health club visits, only 0.002% tested positive for COVID-19. This is 500 times less than the current estimated

US national average. So in other words, based off of this, one of the safer places you could go besides your house is a gym according to these statistics. There was another study done. This was a study done by the Centers of Disease Control and Prevention on 300 adults who tested positive for the virus found that eating at restaurants

are riskier than other daily activities, including going to the gym. This message needs to get out. It does, it totally does. It's false fear. And gyms are suffering as a result. And then the people are suffering who like to work out, maintain their fitness and health ironically,

and how they can do it. That's the thing, how are you gonna maintain your health, the immune system, everything else that you need to, you know, protect yourself, when you do get sick, how are you gonna get through it? You gotta be strong and healthy. Well, what's wild to me is how that's not obvious, right? You have the people that have gym memberships

tend to be healthier as it is. So they're gonna, so the rate of COVID and then probably is gonna be lower in itself. And then when you go to the gym, like if there's a day you take off, it's when you don't feel good and you feel under the weather. So the likelihood that you're gonna go in there and work out when you feel like crap

and then potentially spread to somebody else. Versus, you still go grocery shopping, you still go to the restaurants, you still do all these other things feeling under the weather. you don't go work out and push your body. 100% people, when they don't feel, the only people that go to the gym,

when they're not feeling good, are fitness maniacs, which make up like 0.1% of the gym population. It's true. And I think, you know, now they'd be a little more conscious of that. Of course they would. Absolutely, so my point, the point that Adam's making, which I think is a brilliant one,

is people, when they start to feel, you don't even have to feel very sick. If you're a normal person who exercises for health, and you come home from work and you're like, oh man, I'm not feeling that good. The last place you tend to go is the gym. You still might make your dinner, restaurant, reservation.

You're still gonna go to the grocery store, do this other stuff, go to home depa or whatever. But you're not gonna go run on the treadmill and lift weights when you're kind of feeling, you know, under the weather a little bit. So you have a less of a sick population showing up. Look, I managed gyms for a long time. Do you guys remember sick people working out?

You're never, nobody, people who are sick don't go to the gym. So you get that self-selection bias. I had a question for you Justin you you of all of us I think follow Joe Rogan more than anybody. I think you listen on a pretty regular basis Yes, the fan girl so tell Joe Rogan underwear what is and I've like briefly read some stuff on some of the controversy it's going on with him in Spotify right now and there are they actually and some of the controversy that's going on with him in Spotify right now,

and are they actually censoring some of his content and what's happening with all that? Well, I mean, I don't know a whole lot about all that, but I have heard rumors, because well, basically what happened, he had one of his recent interviews where he had mentioned like Antifa, being somewhat involved with some of the like Arsene

and things going on in Oregon and proved to not be true. And so got like this insane amount of backlash from that. And then Spotify obviously gets the heat from everybody else around there that you know, like can't believe that something like this, you know, could be espoused and all this kind of stuff. And so then I've heard rumors that basically a lot of the employees in Spotify are putting pressure on them to try to have control over, you know, the end product of what he puts out. Yeah. Apparently there's people working there who are saying they want the petitioning for editorial

op, uh, supervision or oversight over Joe Rogan's podcast, which I think is silly and insane. The guy signed probably a huge deal to come over there. Yeah, but this is what happens when you sign with a net. Well, it's like one of the biggest, I mean, they would break his con. I would assume that in his contract when he signed, it probably explicitly says you don't control my content. They probably want that, but yeah, exactly.

I doubt that he would allow it to happen, but we'll see. Yeah. Well, so here's my speculation. Here's why I think this is happening. Now, he did make a statement on a show that proved to be incorrect and he immediately apologized the day after he's human, which is great. That's fine. That's great to see that. You don't see that a lot, you know, in any direction, you know, anybody apologizing or something. That's wrong. Right. But here's why I think they're doing this. It's because the he forgot who he was interviewing and they talked about him hosting a debate and he said, hell yeah, it hosted a debate between Donald Trump and

And Joe Biden. Well, once you first off, Rogan has arguably more power than any single media personality I can think of. He's got the most powerful Platform in the world. I think he gets the most listeners. I think he out he outcompeats all the news networks. And I said he's got a lot of he's a cultural media phenomenon, right? This is true, right? He can influence people. It's an election year. He said he would host a debate, puts a lot of pressure on the politicians. Trump immediately comes forward and says, yeah, I totally do it. Now the balls and Biden's court, which he hasn't responded, probably because he doesn't want to do it.

So now he's a target. Rogan is now a target. So anybody who's got power and media who then dips their toe into that space, especially right now, now you're going to get hit by the side that thinks that they have the most to lose. And just speculating, which I don't think this is inaccurate from their point of view, but I think that they're speculating that he is going to pose a threat to someone like Joe Biden because Trump's that he'd be on there. And in which case, Rogan might just say, I'll just

interview Donald Trump, in which case they would not like that, right? So I think that's where it's coming from, is that he's, and it's funny because he openly supported Bernie Sanders. So and he openly calls himself a Democrat, which is interesting. Well, what's going to be interesting is if we, I mean, one of the things that I think probably, I don't think media came out with controlling narratives at the beginning, until money got involved, analytics got involved, and decades later of it happening, right? When media first came out,

I imagine it was more free, like what we see, podcasting and social media like right now. But over time, big money comes in and buys networks and buys these things out. And then, over more time, you start to get research and analytics and data to support like, oh wow,

when we have these conversations, ratings go to here. And when we have these conversations, so what's gonna be very interesting to me is these platforms, you know, YouTube, podcasting, Spotify, all these different platforms that seem to be so free right now, is will it always remain that way?

And what we're seeing with Joe Rogan because he's got so much power on pull and you got Spotify, which is a massive company right now, is that first bit of this being challenged and how will they respond? Will they remain true to themselves of being this kind of free, diverse platform that allows all conversations and free speech to happen? Or will it start to hurt their pocketbook and will that change their way that they actually allow conversation happen? Well, see, it can be interesting. Here's the thing with podcasts because it's long form.

I think it lends itself, obviously, it lends itself very well to open discussion, right? Whereas other forms of media not so much. Yeah, but do you think it's- Don't you think it's- Don't you think all that stuff started that way before? I don't think it's a matter of what- Bandwidth was always limited, right?

Bandwidth has always been limited with TV, with radio even where there's limited amount of channels, right? That's a 30, do like a minute spot. Yeah, that's it. And so, okay, we're gonna talk about a complicated issue, like, you know, the economy, which really is a complicated issue.

We should have long form discussion. It doesn't lend, it never lend itself well. So, okay, it's okay. I'm gonna challenge this way of thinking because, okay, you're right. So, it doesn't lend itself as well. It doesn't mean that that could potentially be changed because once they start getting the data

from all this stuff, and let's just use Joe for the examples that we're talking about. Joe has, you know, this conversation with Donald Trump and something's going to happen ratings wise. Either they'll go up like crazy, they'll go down like crazy, they'll get all kinds of bad stuff, they'll get people unsubscribe, Spotify,

or more people subscribe. One of the others is going to happen. Who cares that it's long form and it's better for the consumer to listen to, something will happen in response to that, which when you're talking about money and big money, I drive it. Right.

So, are we going to see that still happen even in this long form setting where you'll start to get these narratives because the problem I see with especially tech companies is they still want control over the narrative. They still want to be able to like edit and monitor things that people are searching, that people like, that's the problem I've been seeing with most tech companies. Yeah, and I think the money is probably going to continue to polarize media. I mean, there's more money in catering to one group than it is to talk to both groups, right?

Because you end up pissing one off anytime you take a position that happens to be against them. So it'll probably continue to polarize. I just hope that there's still a market for open debate and dialogue. And this is the best medium that I've ever, that I know of that exists that could do that, but will it fall prey to what you're saying?

In my, I think it will. I think my prediction is this, okay? The future of us. We should remember who pulled up that. Where was that thing that you pulled up, Sal, where you showed us the breakdown of. Oh, whether or not media channels were. Yeah, left center, right.

Well, where it was called all, I can't remember the name. I'll come up with it. So my, so my, all size.com. All size.com. Okay, so my theory is that we are going to see the exact same thing except what we'll see up there instead. You too. No, no, YouTube, Twitter, Spotify.

I agree. The platforms will be at one point become known as more conservative or more liberal or more center. I think that we are in the middle, that time. Media is the same, it's just changing the way we do it. You know what I'm saying? You're probably right. And so, and if it affects their pocketbook,

I can't imagine they're gonna allow certain conversations to happen, so it's coming. I agree with that, because if you look at the chart that they have, they have all the media up there, CNN, and MSNBC and Fox and Bright Bart and all that stuff, what you don't see up there as Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, but I agree with you. You better believe.

Yeah, because they are editing their content. In some extent, they do, and they do that long enough, you will be put up on that. Well, that's an interesting thing, because if Joe Rogan was to break that contract, think about another company that would allow him to then say those things in what about another company that would allow him to then say those things in what kind of business that would bring them.

So it's like, who knows? It might actually benefit him in the long run anyways. Spotify paid him a lot of money because they knew it would benefit their brand. Breaking a contract with Rogan would be a bet. In my opinion, that would be very bad for you Spotify to do something like that. So I don't know.

Anyway, there's articles right now that are being one of our other partners. I'm seeing lots of articles talking about personalized pillows. Pluto pillow, of course, always being the one that they talk the most about. Well, the leader in it. But this is a nice, we have that technology here. Yeah, you know what's interesting?

I never really thought about this. Why hasn't personalized pillow, because what's a personalized pillow? They do it off of your height, your shoulder size, preferences on soft, or cool, or warm, or whatever. You always know that one pillow anyways. Like, if I'm going to a house or my friends,

I would always take that one pillow that was like the perfect mold and fit anyway. Yeah, so it's interesting to me that this market is relatively new. It sounds like a no-brainer, but I bet it's because the tech didn't exist. It's the tech side of it, right? That the market's always been there.

That was, I mean, I remember that was a selling point for me to partner up with them when I was originally first talking to the CEO and she's like, go online right now and like, go try and find the best pillow you can find. Like, look what you see and she was right. Like, you just see like thousands of articles and different, in different brands and it's just like,

where do you start and how do I know? So blogs really. Yeah, how do I know this pillow is going to be ideal for me? And she was, nobody had really made a customized experience for the consumer to be able to find what would be the most ideal pillow for them. And I think that's where they crushed it, you know. This Quas brought to you by Organify.

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only the muscles you train or cannot have an overall effect on the body. I recently sustained a knee injury and can't do lower body training, but I am trying to preserve muscle. It's largely specific, but there is a proven systemic muscle building effect. In fact, there's some interesting studies where they have people train one arm and not the other arm. And most of the muscle and strength gains go to that arm that's being trained. But they do see, they still see some muscle and strength gain a little bit in the opposite arm that wasn't trained at all. So there is this systemic effect.

Now this is also supported by lots of people's experience with certain exercises. Some exercises seem to send a louder, full body signal. For example, a barbell squat or a deadlift. I know with clients, I've had clients add dead lifts to the routine and get stronger at tricip extensions and curls as a result of getting stronger at this big, loud signal exercise like a deadlift. Same thing with squats.

It was said back in the day that if you want bigger arms, you should squat more. And I think there's a little bit of truth to that because these exercises use so much muscle and so much scale and require so much from the central nervous system that yeah, you do get a lot of the gains go specifically to the body parts being worked,

but there is a systemic effect that happens. Do you think that's just because you're still investing in the CNS, you know what I'm saying? Like you're still putting, you're still putting an effort to develop that. That's gotta be part of it. It has to be part of it. I mean, if that's the hub of communication

to all of your muscles, right, from the brain that says fire, move, and do all this, and if you just stop working out completely, not only do muscles at your feet, but I also would think that that neurological communication starts to slow down or weaken. And so even though you may not have a good connection to the injury muscle that we're talking about right now,

you still are strengthening the hub of communication. Because how is it? Yeah, there's an irradiation effect to that, meaning like where I'm trying to stabilize my body while the other allowing the freedom for one part of my body to do the movement, but stay anchored, stay grounded, stay stable. So that isometric tension is also something

that builds muscle and I can't help but think too that's going to play a factor in that overall signal affecting other parts of your body. Yeah, they do studies too where people will think about a movement and not actually perform the movement and they have improvements in the movement. They've done, there's old studies like people thinking about shooting free throws for example. They don't shoot any actual free throws, but they go through in their mind

and shoot them, and they see an improvement in their skill and ability. So it probably is a central nervous system thing happen. The muscle fibers themselves aren't being directly stressed, but the central nervous system is constantly being trained through exercise, and so you see a louder signal throughout the whole body. And so the exercises that work the whole body in these big gross motor movements are probably the best at it.

Another thing is these trigger sessions which we find in our Maps and Obolic program which are kind of these light low level, low intensity type workout sessions you do on the days in between your hard workouts. I notice when I do trigger sessions, I'll target certain body parts and I'll see the gains in those body,

but I see gains all over also from them. And I think it's the trigger sessions are just sending this loud full body signal as I'm doing them frequently to build. To keep it alive and active. Well, if you're making the case for like the loud signal, I would push this person in the direction of like, this is a great time to put a lot of energy and focus on your overhead press or your Z press, right? Because it's been called the squat for the upper body. So if you want a

loud signal to send as far as related to the CNS and you can't train lower body whatsoever, this might be a great time to be practicing your overhead press and getting really, really good at in hopes to have less atrophy happen. Totally. And here's the thing, of course, once you heal from your injury, excuse me, the muscle comes back a lot faster afterward. So it's not, and I know it can be something you worry about, especially if you're super concerned with your physique.

I've hurt myself and you watch my body part or whatever deteriorate. It comes back so fast. It's actually quite, it's pretty easy to get the muscle back once you've had it the first time. All right, next question is from truly interesting. I'm training for the firefighter academy. I'm 61 into 195 pounds, and I've been following

maps and a bullock. which program should I choose next and should I be at maintenance or at a bulk? I need to train for a lot of running with 75 pounds of equipment. Oh, easily two programs. I would recommend to this person. Performance maps performance. map strong. map strong could be good. So could OCR maps OCR. Those three programs are going to give you the kind of fitness strength, mobility, and agility that you need to be a good firefighter. Map performance just generally across the board is probably your best bet.

We created that program literally to improve, build muscle, burn body fat, of course, but really to improve someone's ability to move, to climb, to jump, to squat, to lift, to twist, just stronger and better all of them. And it's really, I think it's the only program with an explosive phase where you actually work on explosive power, which will also benefit you. Definitely benefit you. And I bring up strong mainly as follow up to maps performance. I think maps performance is great at reinforcing stability

amongst all your joints and really getting you familiar with all these different planes of motion and very efficient and strong and explosive. But why I think maps strong would be a great follow up to that is because of the fact that you're talking about 75 pounds you need to carry and you need to do this with endurance. And the work sessions really address that. We even have sandbag, shouldering, and certain moves like that that would really emulate a lot of what you'd be experiencing, you know, going into the fire academy. So that's definitely one of those.

It's unconventional. There's lots of functional lifts in there that challenge you, which will definitely translate well to what you're pursuing. Yeah, I would probably take this person through performance first and then into strong. I think that you can't go wrong with either one of them. I think that performance is a good job though. We addressed durability in there. So there's a phase in there specifically for that. So that sets the table really well, I think, to transition in a strong.

And then I do a dress diet, right? So you asked a question about, should it be a maintenance or a bulk? I think either one of those programs that you go to from anabolic are probably going to put more of a calorie demand. So I would probably put you, whatever you think is maintenance right now, I would probably, if I was coaching you when we transitioned into the one of these next two programs, I would also bump your calories calories slightly. Yeah, but from a performance standpoint, I would not go into an aggressive

bulk. Here's a thing that I'm not aggressive, but I would, this is a great time to add calories because they're going to be moving. Yes. The program is more days a week. There's more to ban on cardiovascular. There's more volume in both those programs. So literally, I'm adding calories, not because I'm trying to bulk or gain weight, but because you have more demand. No, I agree with you.

That's what I'm trying to say. I agree exactly with what you're saying. And what I'm going to caution you against is, because when people say bulk, a lot of times, I mean gain lots of weight. Donuts, okay. Don't do that and here's why. Even if you get stronger in the gym, that doesn't always translate into better performance

outside the gym because what you're dealing with is a strength to weight ratio, okay? That's what's most important in the real world when you're moving your body around and doing things that may be required of a firefighter. So if you gain 15 pounds of weight and get 5 pounds stronger on everything, yeah, you're stronger in the gym, but you're actually weaker in ratio to your body weight. Meaning, if you need to climb or move something or move your body, you now have lost performance.

You want a really good, like a gymnast. If you look at a gymnast, for example, they have tremendous strength to weight ratios. For the weight that they carry, they have incredible strength. And so that's why they can move their bodies the way they do. So as a firefighter, you want to have some muscle, for sure, especially if you're picking up other bodies, but I caution you against the aggressive bulk, you know, a big, heavy, bulky firefighter, you gotta move your own body most of the time, you're gonna exhaust yourself a little more

and make yourself less effective. So what we would do, like if I was coaching you nutritionally is the goal for me would be can I increase calories and not see much fluctuation on the scale? Yeah, I would do that. That would be a perfect world. Perfect world is, okay, I know I'm about to send you into a program that is going to require

more demand on calories than the previous program we were just running, MAPs and a BOLIC. So I want to bump your calories 100, 200, something calories a day, right? Something small, nothing major. And then the goal is, you know, you're maintaining your weight. Now, if you're losing, then I get to add more calories because I kind of want to keep you hovering around that 195, but then slowly be able to increase calories. That's a perfect world. Perfect world is we're increasing calories really slow

and you're also maintaining your weight about it. And then when you know you've over increased your calories, if you start putting on one pound, two pound, every single week, you need to back off and go the other direction. Next question is from Lucy, ZL3. I spend most of my day sitting on a chair due to online classes. Is there any benefit to sitting cross-legged for hip mobility or should I just do exercises to prevent low back pain? Yeah, one of the best things you can do if you're sitting all day, and this is like magic, okay,

is to every hour get up and do five minutes of easy, you know, mobility work. That's it. Every single hour for five minutes get up and do something for mobility for your upper back or your hips or your ankle. And just do that every hour with the clients that I've worked with who were worked in tech,

who did sit for long hours, long bouts of time. This was the most effective thing to do. Changing how you sit can definitely help. But here's the thing about sitting. When you're sitting, you're not active. So if I sit cross-legged, now I'm in a static stretch with this cross-legged position.

It might improve my range of motion, but it's not going gonna necessarily improve my mobility, but standing up and doing an active mobility thing, like a leg swing or getting on the floor real quick, at 90, 90, or combat stretch, or handcuffs with rotation, or do a wall press, that's gonna improve your mobility. And literally just five minutes every hour.

If you're working for eight hours, that's 40 minutes of mobility work. That does a pretty good job. I like to sit and basically do a few things. I do cross my leg every now and then when I'm getting tight and I could feel that like in my performance, it starts to really act up. If it's over a certain amount of time when I'm driving

and I'm doing certain repetitive patterns, I try to really pay attention to my foot position. And so there's little things that little angles make, they go a long way. Because of the fact that I'm always fighting that winding up that tends to happen when I let the pattern go too long. And so to interrupt that pattern, I just try to be more conscious of it, like in how my whole, like how I'm sitting and how my posture is with my sitting. And then what I can somewhat do to counter some of these things. So, you know, some of it is internal rotation for me, I have to constantly be conscious of because of the fact that I'm always, my tendency is always to be

externally rotating out. And my And that's my comfortable position. And this is just what happens over time where I just keep my heel tends to come in, my toes come out, and I'm constantly putting pressure on the pedal back and forth and back and forth. And then I come and I sit in the studio, and I'm sitting, and now I notice my leg is in that certain position. So, you know, in terms of it being like ritual and something that you're cognizant of, I think there's value in that certain position. So, you know, in terms of it being like ritual and something that

you're cognizant of, I think there's value in that. But what Sal said, like, interrupted and doing actual mobility exercises that will unwind you, very valuable. But also like too, you just, just try to know that certain things will, will create this, this type this type of tightness and pain and to be able to recognize that and how you're sitting and how your posture is is also very beneficial. No, by cross-legged, what do you think she means by that? Do you think she means literally crossing her legs the way a minor or a salis right now or do you think it means sitting in Indian style? It could be the right or hip- like this. I got sort of wide, you know, with my knee here and I'm pushing down pressure on my knee

to relieve some tension, but yeah, I don't know. Because a lot of times, I mean, I'll tell you being just totally honest about, I mean, the reason why I cross, it's like, that's not an ideal thing. It's because it's more uncomfortable to have my hips opened up. So I'm actually crushing that issue, right?

That's not a good thing. It's not a good thing that I cross my legs. It's not help. It may be giving me... It's not because you're modest. No, it's giving me temporary relief in my hips and my low back. So that's why I'm curious about why she's alluding to, would crossing my legs be a good idea? Crossing your legs may be giving you temporary relief because you're internally rotating even more, and to externally rotate feels tight on your hips and pulls on your low back, which means you need to be doing more of that, not the other way around.

You're resting in that too. You're not. Yeah, so that's my point. So if someone sits like a normally Indian style, which is normally the opposite of how most of us are, most of us have an issue unlike Justin, most of that is an issue of being more internally rotated. And so crossing your legs is a way of like crushing it. It feels comfortable on my hips and my low back

to constantly be going back and forth between crossing my two legs. That is not a good habit. I'll be the first to admit that. So if you're asking that as a thing that you should do, that's not helping your low back. It's helping it temporarily because you're sitting down in the hips feel tight, but you're actually crutching

the issue. The issue is you probably lack good external rotation in the hips, and so that's why that feels comfortable because it gives you temporarily. What you need to do is get down every hour and get in some 90, 90 positions and work on your core strength as well. Next question is from Tazee Clappers.

What realizations did you have in your 20s that changed your life? Oh, I think of one. This was, it might have been 19 or 20, but one of my mentors taught me a valuable skill when it comes to communication. He said, use your ears and your mouth in proportion. He says, if you want to be a good communicator, you need to learn how to listen twice as much as you talk. And that really made a huge difference

in how I communicated to clients. Because up until that point, you know, I started off training people at the age of 18. So for the first year or two, I was really good at telling and talking and telling and motivating, but I don't think I was very good at listening and asking questions and you learn a lot when you ask questions and it helps form, it helps you form

how are you gonna communicate certain things. Plus the person who's talking to you now feels more engaged in the conversation. So I remember that specifically. And I think I was 20 when I first heard that. I'm good. Oh, go ahead, no, go ahead, Justin. Yeah, no, I was just thinking about this

because I'm pretty sure like, what wasn't 20, it was like 18, 20-ish, where I know there's like rituals of becoming a man or becoming a woman. And you know, and then we celebrate this. We used to be like a big deal back in the day. And I found myself actually going through this process of who am I specifically?

Like I know who I am based off of like my parents are these people, my brother. You know, I'm affiliated with this circle of friends that I grew up with. But I really didn't have my own specific identity. And this is where this time in my life, I decided to just go do something that was completely my own decision and be away from my comfort zone

and everybody here and basically just moved and traveled across country and completely restarted from scratch and went through that whole journey. And I thought that at the time I didn't even know that that was like a significant thing for me to do that. It was just like, well, I got to figure this out. I got to do something, you know, and I got to go to college, I got to learn, I got to

figure out what I'm doing for my career. There was an opportunity that was there. So I just decided like, I want to do this. And, you know, I, I found so much value in that because I was so reliant on my comforts and all these things, you know, back home that I didn't realize. I, I, I was really sheltering myself and limiting my potential. And so I, I'm like of an advocate now for this and wanna see this with my own kids and have them evaluate this and go find themselves and really own their belief system and who they are and recreate themselves.

I think that's a very cool thing to do. So I had a ton of epiphanies in my 20s that changed my life forever. So I'm going to share two of them because I think they're two of the most important. I just, we just had an interview recently and we were sharing stories and one of them happened in a company in my mid-20s that changed my life forever. And that was, I went through this moment where, or moment in time, moment where or moment in time where I was really frustrated with where I was at in my career. I expected myself to be somewhere else financially. I thought I'd be at a much higher level at that time.

I thought I would be the district or the vice president level for this come. I was doing all the things I thought I needed to do to be successful and I wasn't getting promoted fast enough. And I was really angry. I was angry at the company and I blamed others for where I was at and I had this epiphany of, why am I allowing this company to dictate my personal growth and why does it matter my title and what position I hold in it on how successful or how much I can grow as an individual. And so I began reading.

That's when I really started to read. Like before that, I hated reading. I didn't pick up a book that often. And at the time, the CEO was putting out a book every single month that he was saying that he was reading. And so I said, you know what, if I believe that I should be a VP, why don't I read as much as what the CEO is reading

and learn as much as he is. And that set me off on a path of personal growth that I think accelerated my financial success in the rest of my life. So that was one big moment for me. The other one was, that was huge for me in my 20s, was evaluating the circle of my friends. And I don't remember where the first time I heard the old saying of that you are the

average of the five people that you spend the most time with, but that was very impactful for me to really start to evaluate that. And I think initially when I heard that, it kind of went in one year and I thought, oh, that's cool. Okay, that makes sense. Yeah, hang out with a lot of successful people. You probably be successful. But not to the point where I really started to evaluate and think like, okay, I've got

the, because I had friends, I had really close best friends and people I spent a lot of time with and I loved and had, and, and, and, and really enjoyed. But the more I started to think about that, I said, man, you know, am I the, the, the one leading this circle of five people, or am I kind of in the middle of that? And like, am I really stretching myself and am I really putting myself around other people that are trying to elevate me? And it was tough because in the, in your mid 20s, and a lot of people are still very attached

to their friends in college or high school that they've built. And a lot of times at that age, you don't realize that the things that you, having common with them are things that maybe are not your favorite qualities. For example, my best friends in high school are like my drinking buddies. The guys that would do crazy,

and we had loyalty to each other. So there's this bond because we were loyal to each other, but they weren't really helping me grow as a person or they weren't pushing me to be a better version of myself. They are who I got together with and partied and had fun and had a good time and I enjoyed that. And so I would gravitate to that a lot. And when I started to really evaluate where they were financially, where they were with personal growth, and were they stretching themselves to get better and collectively, where we all doing that. And the answer was no. And

that was when I began to really start to seek out people that were in positions or places in their life that I wanted to go to, even though I wasn't currently there, and started to spend more of my time with them. When that circle started to change, so much started to happen in my life. And then I also learned that that continues to evolve. And I really believe that's what has led to the circle in this room. The reason why I think we all work so well together is I think we share this in common and we may have never found each other, had we not all been on that similar path of trying to elevate the people that were always around. And when you get a group, when you actually get a group of four or five

other men or women that are like-minded like that that are pushing themselves and each other to grow and to be better version of self every day, it's amazing how much that fast tracks you in your life to success. Right on. All right, look, mine pump is recorded on video and audio. So if you like listening to the podcast,

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