Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1396: The Best Mind to Muscle Ab Exercises, Primal Movement Vs. Animal Flow, How to Perform Your Best No Matter What Is Going on in Your Life & More

Starting point is 00:00:00 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Saldas Defano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this episode of Mind Pumped the Worlds, number one ranked fitness health and entertainment podcast, we answer fitness and health questions that are asked by listeners and viewers just like you. But the way we open the episode was with an introductory portion. So we're talking about current events. We talk about our lives, our kids, fun stuff.

Starting point is 00:00:31 Listen to the episode from beginning to end for the most fun. But if you want to fast forward to your favorite part, go to MindPump Podcast.com where everything is timestamps. Let me give you a rundown. We open up by talking about how I'm nesting. I got a baby coming, so I started to get that instinctual nesting feeling happening. Then I'm talking about my son who inherited

Starting point is 00:00:52 my smart-ass genetics, and now I'm paying the price. Then we talked about Ned's new CBD CBN product that puts you to sleep. The stuff is powerful, ladies and gentlemen. I don't recommend you taking it before you operate a heavy machinery. It does make you sleepy and you sleep hard. By the way, Ned is a company we work with,

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Starting point is 00:02:23 Then we talked about, I got a DM from a bikini competitor whose coach told her to take some danger stuff as per usual, these coaches or jerks, I swear. Then we talked about Adam Watersports. What are we talking about? I don't know, listen to the episode. Then we got into the questions, here's the first one. This person wants to know, what are some of the best

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Starting point is 00:04:20 Oh, shit, dog. It's my favorite time of the week! No! Why are'm pointing at me. Try cutting my time there. He was. He was. He was trying to throw my last line. It jumped it.

Starting point is 00:04:33 It's his favorite time, dude. Yeah. So we have two winners for Apple Podcasts, four winners for Facebook, the Apple Podcasts winners are Megan McCoun and Josh Ibar for Facebook. We have Steve Matson, Jonathan Garcia, Ashley Ponce and Steven Griffin. All of your winners send the name I just read to iTunes at mindpumpmedia.com, include your shirt size and your shipping address.

Starting point is 00:05:01 And we'll get that shirt right out to you. Would you say Adam? Yes, how was it? How was I doing? They're trimester. What happened to the trimester? You just stay home as a man, get criticized all day. Ha ha ha ha ha ha.

Starting point is 00:05:14 It's like sport, you know? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha right today actually. Let me know. I know I just woke up, but tell me, I just got here. I messed up something. No, you know what, funny, I'm nesting myself. Did you experience that towards the end? Yeah, yeah. Were you two, you started feeling like, yeah? Yeah, yeah, I took on some of the traits they say, right? So I even had some of the first trimester, I had some of the nausea and stuff.

Starting point is 00:05:43 But I think it, and you got nauseous? Yeah, I did. So she was getting too much attention or what? No. This is what I attributed to, right? I mean, obviously some people think that it's like, oh, some men carry the tray. I think what it was is that first trimester

Starting point is 00:05:59 when you're waiting for like, and I forget what week it is where they do the test that lets you know like he's gonna be healthy. Oh. Like, and like that, so you know, right? As a father, you learn right away, since she takes the test, it's like, you know, week four that you guys are pregnant, but you don't tell anybody till week 12. So those first two months or so, I was nauseous.

Starting point is 00:06:19 Sweating it. Oh, I was. And even though I was like playing it off, like I wasn't, because I wasn't thinking about it, I wasn't even though I was like playing it off like I I wasn't because I wasn't thinking about it I wasn't talking about anybody inside. I was uneasy all the time and I couldn't I wasn't sick I was like why am I not I'm not sick, but I'm just my stomach has not felt right for like two months No, we're we're now we had our our I got fat so I packed some weight

Starting point is 00:06:43 Just as all finally. Yeah, you're getting fab again, fat. Let's do it. Let's do it. I'm working out more. Yeah. Preparing. No, you know what?

Starting point is 00:06:53 We had our, now the midwife is coming every week, right? Because we're like heading into, you know, game time. Yeah. And they brought the tub. So now we have the big inflatable tub where she could finish the labor or whatever. You gotta hook up a hose to your shower to fill it up and you gotta have drop cloth. But like make sure you have a drop cloth for the bed,

Starting point is 00:07:14 for the floor. So does that, like, do you keep it inflated now or is it like, they just show you how you inflate it when it starts happening? They set it, make give it to me. So it's up to me. So when she starts going into you know, you should blow it up right now Like you know I don't like in the living room jacuzzi. That's a plastic Chill yeah, just chill. I like this gonna happen in here later. Yeah, yeah, no, they give it

Starting point is 00:07:37 They're like okay. We need a Eight towels that you don't mind throwing away, you know, we need plastic bags for garbage, we need drop cloths. I think you're murdering somebody. Dude, I'm like, this is dexterous. What's gonna happen? I don't know if I'm viscuing. I don't know how to feel about this. So we're doing that whole setup.

Starting point is 00:07:54 And then all of a sudden, I got this urge to like, change the AC, all the air filters in the house and fix the part of the floor that hasn't been fixed forever. And just because like, are you nesting? Look at you. I guess I am a little bit. What the home deep all like four times is like, we've got a couple of fake flowers.

Starting point is 00:08:10 I thought you were like me, you did not do any of that stuff. I don't. So, but it's basic stuff, you know what I mean? I'm so bad with that, dude. I felt like Katrina knows that she knows how to get me, right? Her way of getting me is like, could you, she'll tell me like this happened last night,

Starting point is 00:08:27 right? Literally, so it's funny. Can you find a man to do this for me? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So I'm, You call Justin. I am this bad.

Starting point is 00:08:35 I'm this bad, right? So this is me like admitting, okay? I'm terrible with this, right? And we are like a light bulb went off in the closet. Like last week, you know? And we have a we have the light bulb down there And I just I'm so not the handy guy that I just don't do it. It's not that I can't change my foam You know, and so last night she's like we get done bathing Max or whatever She's like could you could you bathe Max tonight so I can go change the light bulb in the closet and I'm like

Starting point is 00:09:02 I'm like wait. Yeah, okay You're challenging me. Yeah, yeah. Get the stick. Hold on. You know, I was like, where, because I don't know where the light bulbs are. She's like, oh, they're down in the closet.

Starting point is 00:09:14 In the, you never throw it back at her? Yeah, no. I was gonna change it yesterday when I was cooking dinner. But, you see, it doesn't work for a guy, does it? No. We just sound like assholes. Yeah, so I just, I get up and go do it right away,

Starting point is 00:09:26 but I can get better at that. Do you speak in a kid's, like, you know, your kids definitely inherit your traits, good and bad? And so as a kid, the thing that I would always get in trouble for the most was being a smart ass. I was always a very, you know, I was a smart ass. Who, you're starting to see it a lot, dude. Oh, I was terrible, right? It's my grandmother, I was a smart ass. I was talking to see it a lot, dude.

Starting point is 00:09:45 Oh, I was terrible, right? It's my grandmother, I don't know, how many times she threw the wooden spoon at me for talking back and being a smart ass or whatever. I remember one time a great grandmother was chasing me around the table as I was talking back to her. But anyway, so my son has inherited this trait that I have.

Starting point is 00:10:02 So, you know, we on this group thread with Jessica, and I don't remember what she asked them. She asked them something. Yeah. And he didn't respond, didn't respond, didn't respond. Finally, he responds like a day later. And it's snarky. Well, no, she had sent him like this long text

Starting point is 00:10:17 asking him if he wanted to have a friend over and make sure you let me know. Maybe we can have dinner, whatever. And his response was K, like just the letter K, K. So I'm like, just here, right? So I message on the side and I'm like, dude, I'm like, can you show a little bit more respect to your stepmom?

Starting point is 00:10:36 He's like, you know, of course, what do you mean? I answered the question. I'm like, yeah, but that's not respectful. So I'm like, going back and forth with him. So then I, five minutes later, this is the text that comes through. For Jessica,'m like, going back and forth with them. So then I, five minutes later, this is the text that comes through. For Jessica, in the group, right?

Starting point is 00:10:48 Yeah. This is what he says. Step mother dearest, it seems that I have offended you by partaking in electronic messaging this evening. To answer your question, to answer your question, why, of course, I would love to participate recreational activities with a friend in a fortnight. May I retract my statement from earlier as father has deemed it disrespectful

Starting point is 00:11:09 I hope you have a blessed unit and thank you for reaching out to me this And she's you know Jessica's got a good sense of humor, so she laughed and whatever. She knew, she'd laugh about it. Oh, good, good. She laughed about it. I was wondering how she handled that, like if she got all upset. She texted me right after she was like, you talked to him, didn't she? Like, yeah. Oh, shit.

Starting point is 00:11:34 What a jerk. That is a dad. You can't get mad, can you? Yeah. Obviously, I haven't experienced this yet, because Max is so young, but I hear this story, this happened to you, right? I'm going like, man, how would I handle that? Would I get really upset?

Starting point is 00:11:49 Or would I just like, or would I put on a front like I'm upset, but deep down I'm laughing inside going like, oh my God, that's so neat. Is that the feeling or what? Kind of, like, well, part of me is up to get annoyed and then part of me thinks it's funny, but when you were a kid, were the things that you got like in trouble for a lot that you like, what kind of traits do you think your son's going to have?

Starting point is 00:12:07 Well, I mean, like you, I was like that, right? So I was very outspoken. So if I didn't like something, but obviously I could not articulate myself as well as your son did. I mean, that's what I think that's so comical to me. It's like so well put. But I definitely, I had the talk back trade for sure. So I'm ready for that when it comes. So it's inevitable that's coming. I'm trying to think what else. Like, you know what?

Starting point is 00:12:31 I bet you don't realize it until it hits you, right? Like I remember Justin shared a story one time who and I were talking and he was telling me that you've got the little bulldozer. Well, no, he was telling me like he has like these things that he does, you know, to get his way with like Courtney, right? That he's learned to like kind of like, you know, get what he wants. And he said that that was like a major moment when he saw his boy using it on On her own tack. Yeah, same tactics. He's like, well, you look, that's my move, you know,

Starting point is 00:12:57 I'm saying, oh, dear, still I move. That's my move to get my way. You don't say it. So I don't really know what it is until it probably starts to happen to me. And then when it does like, you know, that's like that Justin told me that story, you just shared this one. Like, you know, do you get mad as a dad or do you like chalk it up to the game? I had one of those this weekend. It was pretty funny because we were like having an intense conversation. And like, there was a financial thing happening. We're trying to discuss, like me and Courtney, and it wasn't like we were fighting, but we were just having like a, you know, real like serious conversation. And, you know, every always finds that

Starting point is 00:13:33 as an opportunity to come and just like, become a jackass, like right in front of us and do something crazy, he put like a Kleenex box on his head and like took his clothes off and was like doing these like weird dances, while we're like in a clothes off and was like doing these like weird dances. Well, we're like in a serious conversation and it was just like so diffusing, you know, we're just like, ah, he does that every time,

Starting point is 00:13:52 like if something's happening on the phone, especially to get like attention, and it's, I mean, it's hilarious, but at the same time, you're like, not now. I wonder if he senses like the- The tension. Yeah, the tension in the head. And that's his way of diffusing it is like he defaults

Starting point is 00:14:07 to doing something. Well, the meetings, really good at it. They say this about the oldest and a family that they feel somewhat responsible for keeping the house peace, right, whatever. So sometimes they'll see that with the oldest where they'll come and try and diffuse a situation by being funny or something like that.

Starting point is 00:14:24 So that's a common thing. Yeah, it was great. He's a pretty sensitive kid too. Like, you can tell he reads people's emotions very, very well. It's like a very advanced when you talk to him. Oh, you can? Yes, he can does. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 00:14:35 Yeah, it was funny. So this whole weekend, my youngest is really getting into science and stuff from school, which is great. And I'm like, any opportunity where they ask you, like, can I learn more about this? That's like not like school driven. I'm like, oh, I'm all into this. So we went downtown to Santa Cruz and tried,

Starting point is 00:14:53 I was trying to find something that was like somewhat related to physics. Cause he's just like, he heard me talking about it a little bit and then he's like, I want to know more. And so we went and got this like, this, the science experiment thing where it was like, I want to know more. And so we went and got this like, the science experiment thing where it was like, basically you put together this crane that was all driven by hydraulics.

Starting point is 00:15:12 And so we're like putting it all together. And of course, like Courtney's laughing because she knows like what's gonna happen with me in terms of putting it together. And then him trying to like play with it while I'm putting it together. And it was like a disaster, you know? but I finally got to put together and everything. And we're just like trying to move these things and it's breaking like every two seconds

Starting point is 00:15:32 because it's made out of plastic. But yeah, I made this like vowed to myself like anytime they like want to learn something. Like I'm going to go, you know, pay for it or we're going to go do it together or whatever. So there's been that and like, he's really like into these crazy experiments that I look up on YouTube all the time. Well dude, a kid will learn nothing faster than something that they wanna learn.

Starting point is 00:15:52 So you just like jump on it. Yeah, it's like pounced on it. Yeah, this weekend we had a little mini sex talk with my daughter. She's a fifth grade now, right? So this is when they, your daughter, that's so weird to picture her. But your right fifth grade is when you go through that.

Starting point is 00:16:06 But she's, can they teach him that already? Yeah, but it's not, you know how it is in fifth grade. Yeah, it's the sperm, the egg, the whole deal. But I was very open with my son. So I sat down with my son when he's in fifth grade. And when I was a kid, girl, it shit's still like this with my parents. When I was a kid, it was,

Starting point is 00:16:21 you didn't talk about it at all. There was no mention of sex, there was no mention of body parts, there was nothing. So I didn't talk about it at all. There was no mention of sex, there was no mention of body parts, there was nothing, so I didn't want that for my kids. I wanted it to be very open and to not make it a big deal. You know, and be, you know, also be appropriate, but not to make a big deal. But my daughter is so much more naive than my son was.

Starting point is 00:16:40 Like way more- Part of you is like, yes. Well, in part of me is like, how am I, this is that I need to talk to her about this and this is gonna be weird to talk to her. Yeah, so we're having kind of this conversation and my son goes, we talked about puberty. Like, well, here's what happens to boys, here's what happens to girls,

Starting point is 00:16:58 and they get their period and this and that. So we're kind of explaining that and you can see the look on her face is like, huh? And then my son goes, do you know how babies are made? So I'm like, I wanna elbow my son at the chair, right? So he's like, he's trying to push it, right? Do you know how they're made? And my daughter's like, well, yeah, two people, they pray.

Starting point is 00:17:16 And then, God gives them a baby inside the thing. And he starts chuckling, he goes, no, not really. He's like, shh. Yeah, dude, not really. You're a sh**. Yeah dude, I'm like, I'm gonna push this kid. I want her to ask, I don't want him to pro. Right, right, right. Of course. So we're just, and you could tell, we'll go to a point,

Starting point is 00:17:35 and then it gets a little too far. She'll be like, I don't want to talk about it anymore. Like, all right. No problems. We don't have to talk about it anymore. Yeah, no, the thing I'm dealing with her right now is that she's moody. Man, she gets moody.

Starting point is 00:17:47 Especially if she's in good sleep, she wakes up, she's pissed. For like an hour, she's just angry. And you know, my instinct is to push back and be like, you better change. Now I just be like, everybody, I'll tell you, I'll text the whole, everybody but her. Like, hey, everybody, ignore her for the rest of the

Starting point is 00:18:01 fish and close up. Cause it doesn't work. We didn't get eight hours. Yeah, otherwise she's gonna be pissed. She just gets mad for longer rest of the fish. So she cools off. Cause it doesn't work. She didn't get eight hours. Yeah. Otherwise she's gonna be pinched. She just gets mad for longer. Oh, yeah. You know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:18:10 Anyway, speaking of sleep. Oh, yeah. I cannot wait to talk. I've been waiting to talk about this. I was just telling you guys earlier, man, I went through a string of three days and then even last night, I finally took that product Ned has out for sleep.

Starting point is 00:18:23 And it just, I don't know what it is, because I remember you guys telling too, like if you take it a little bit early, like it makes you a little bit drowsy, it didn't make me drowsy, so I was a little worried. But dude, I was out like a light. No, so Ned came out with a sleep product. So it's got CBD in there,

Starting point is 00:18:38 but also it's high in CBN, which is a cannabinoid that helps with sleep. And then they put other things in there like Valerian and Camamil and other compounds that help. I took it, I've tried it now like four or five times. I have two. About an hour later, if I don't go to bed, I start to feel like, whoa.

Starting point is 00:18:56 It's next level. Bro, it'll put you out all five times. I've done it five times so far. I think it's the best product they've come up with. Totally, honestly. It makes you sleep hard and dream hard. Do you have crazy ass dreams? Crazy dreams, yeah.

Starting point is 00:19:09 I'm like in real deep sleep. I feel like I'm probably snoring like a buzzsaw. Oh, Jessica's so jealous because she's just not sleeping right now. She can't sleep so that midwife told her to sleep on her side or like propped up kind of like hands and knees almost. What do you feel about her using this? No, I wouldn't, you know, here's a deal with cannabinoids. I know that some people say, you know, give it to pregnant women.

Starting point is 00:19:33 I don't because cannabinoids affect, it could affect brain development. And I don't like to risk any potential, you know what I mean? Yeah, there's not a lot of research around it. I was looking when Katrina was pregnant. I couldn't find anything. We did the same thing. We didn't risk taking it, but I bet it would have been fine. Yeah, I would just err on the side of safety.

Starting point is 00:19:55 No, that's how I felt too. It's like, you know, rather tough it out, what it is, what it is. Like, we're going to get through this versus risking some of that. But I still don't, I don't think there's. But that product, dude, it knocks me out, like to the point where I'm like, should I use this like less frequently

Starting point is 00:20:08 because I don't want to lose it's potent? It's impressive. And I mean, I hate to compare it to like Nike, but like you don't have those effects, like when you wake up like a super, super drought from like one of those like, Nike will type products, like yeah, you don't have that at all. No, you wake up and you, you dreamed hard,

Starting point is 00:20:23 you slept hard and you wake up refreshed. CBN is gonna be a big cannabinoid product for a lot of companies. No, you, I mean, you sure. It was pretty interesting. I mean, if you've been listening for a long time, they maybe they were people remember, but you called this like over a year or two ago

Starting point is 00:20:39 when we were first talking about it, and the research that was coming out in CBN, I remember you talking about this was before they even had, even ideas of this product. So I can tell a major difference. I can tell a difference between that and then the full spectrum, just the full spectrum by itself helps and I like it.

Starting point is 00:20:55 I use it, but it's, this thing puts me down. If I want to sleep, I'm using that. Absolutely. If you're on a plane or something like that, I can't even imagine. Yeah. So have you guys seen the South Park episode yet? No, I wanna hear about it.

Starting point is 00:21:07 Can you watch it? Yeah, watch it. Oh, I wanted to watch it with you guys. Yeah, no, it's really good. I mean, it's not like super hilarious or anything. I think it's like really intelligent and clever, the way they like strung it all together, to kind of poke at both sides and poke at like everything

Starting point is 00:21:25 that's happening in general. Edo. And it was really clever because like, so one of the things is basically like, so they they have lost all these teachers because they don't want to come back. They basically re-opened the school. And so all the kids are, you know, have to go back to school. Of course, the cartman's like, sugar in. Like he loves the fact that he doesn't have to hang out with anybody and can eat whatever

Starting point is 00:21:44 he want. And like, he puts Edo that he isn't have to hang out with anybody and can eat whatever he want. And like, he puts, you know, Skype on, he puts like a picture of him. So it looks like he's on Skype for, you know, school, school. It's like, oh, that's clever. He's got his six foot stick. He's poking everybody and getting back from them. And stuff. I was like, oh, it's Claire's.

Starting point is 00:21:59 And so basically, go back to school and everything. And the teacher's strike, they're not, they don't want to go back to school. And then so what they do and they don't want to go back to school. And then so what they do is they hire like all of the defunded police. So the defunded police become their teachers and then they harass them and it's like, I'm going to watch this because you guys have it. It's very clever. It's very clever.

Starting point is 00:22:20 Speaking of COVID, Justin, tell me that your conspiracy cacoles weren't freaking tingling like crazy. I know. When Trump comes out and has COVID, it's so bizarre, right? The timing is that, yeah, crazy. Yeah, right after that. I don't think it's that crazy. Bro, the timing is wild. The dude is flying around all over the world, bro.

Starting point is 00:22:42 Yeah, but he's the most protected man. Doesn't matter the world. Yeah, but it's a virus. You can't see it. It's in the air, dude. You can but he's the most protected man. Doesn't matter the world. Yeah, but it's a virus. You can't see it. It's in the air, dude. You can't see that. It's not like protecting you from an assassin. Yeah, sneezes.

Starting point is 00:22:51 You know, it's not just in the air. Like you have to have droplets to like shoot out. I don't know, dude. All I know is the plane rides. It's all the fancies. I mean, come on, dude. I know, but it's not a secret like virus. Like everybody's looking out for it.

Starting point is 00:23:04 Everybody's getting tested. You can't see it, you can make weird conspiracies on both sides, right? Totally, it could like help his cause. It could, you know, be somebody attacking him. Like who knows? It is interesting to see both sides figure out how to spin this to their advantage.

Starting point is 00:23:20 Yes. Because it's hard to attack him negatively because then you kind of look like a jerk, right? Yeah, what's up dude? It's October. I thought we're gonna get a big surprise. That's what I'm saying Yeah, this is part of this is a surprise This is black. That's not a good surprise. Well, it surprised me is I guess he got good reviews from his debate Which was like I thought he already did terrible is approval writing went up a little bit

Starting point is 00:23:39 Is that true? Is that just Fox telling you? No, no, no, that's true. Really? Yeah, and then was it Telomundo did a poll, Latino voters, 66% thought he won. I don't know if they watched the same debate I saw. I know, right? Because it wasn't that, it wasn't great for anybody. Nobody was looking good. Nobody looked good, but I thought he looked worse. I thought for sure, I mean, I had it at five to two. Like I had five Biden to him.

Starting point is 00:24:02 Like and his two were like gifts. I felt like, yeah, he got it just because he got his thing right there. Joe Jorgensen's is his first site back up? Yeah, it's back up. But it crashed right after. Isn't that great? I loved that. I didn't know what it was.

Starting point is 00:24:14 What else can I do? Yeah, who else is there? Yeah, it's somebody. Anybody else. But did you see the treatments that they put them on? So besides the, there's some experimental anti-virals that have them on and some antibody treatments, they're also having them take zinc and vitamin D. So vitamin D, now we have some pretty good evidence

Starting point is 00:24:34 to show that if it's high, your the chances that you'll get severe symptoms are far lower from COVID. Zinc, there's also a lot of evidence. Melatonin, do you see that? Melatonin. Do you see that? Melatonin. Yes.

Starting point is 00:24:47 So apparently melatonin at high doses can really reduce the inflammatory response from respiratory type diseases, so they have them on that as well. So melatonin, zinc, vitamin D, and then the other stuff. I thought that was interesting. That is interesting. Melatonin seems like a left field for me for that. It's antioxidant and it has anti-inflammatory properties. But I think you have to take high doses, like 20.

Starting point is 00:25:08 So is he drowsy all day or what? And nobody was talking about any preventative methods. It feels like it's like, it's blasphemy or something like it's politicized to talk about like preventative methods. I know, but he's dude, he's not, I mean, technically he's in a bad category, right? He's 74, he's not exactly ideal weight. technically he's in a bad category, right? He's 74. He's not exactly ideal weight.

Starting point is 00:25:27 I think he's 244 pounds, something like that. So he's not exactly in the best category. Yeah, he's husky. But there, I don't know. No, he's in the worst, isn't he? Yeah, no, he's not in a good caliber. How does he? 74.

Starting point is 00:25:39 How does he have so much energy? He's in the worst. He's out of shape and 74. He's like, he has the worst, which by the way if he comes out like a champion You know, he's gonna spin the shit out of course both sides are trying to come out beaten his chest I win yeah Greatest of all time. He says he's 6 3 2 4 3 boys a big boy. He's a he's a he's a chunkster. He's a big He's just a big boy. I'll be there. He did. I mean, it's like great he's a, he's a chunkster. He's a big, he's just a big boy.

Starting point is 00:26:05 He's just a big boy all day. You're askeying, dude. I mean, it's like, two, 40 at six, three is not that big. Well, because he's six, three. Yeah, bro, it's, I don't realize he was that tall. Easy guy. I'm like two, 25, you know what I'm saying? I'm not that far off.

Starting point is 00:26:15 Bro, you add another 20 pounds on you. Yeah. Take away some of your muscle. Yeah, I know you're right. You're, you're, you're taking city. Yeah. It's, it's, it's, it's, what's going on? Yeah. Anyway, speaking of our sponsors, GSC, the giveaway that butcher box is doing? Yes. Kicks city What's going on?

Starting point is 00:26:25 Speaking of our sponsors, GSC to give away that butcher box is doing. Yes, bro lost lobster tails Say flay mignons what's happening? Yeah, mignons flay mignons dude. How are they giving away in classy? All of a sudden how the hell they giving away lobster tail dude? I love you think because they crushed in the pandemic That's why you think so. Oh, I love you. I think because they crushed in the pandemic. That's why. You think so? Oh, I mean, remember they shut down the advertise. We had to pause advertising because so many people were ordering from them. Yeah. Why wouldn't you? You just get it conveniently delivered to you.

Starting point is 00:26:54 So going to the apocalypse. Yeah. Well, lobsters good because shellfish in general are for for muscle building purposes. They're high in key nutrients that are good for testosterone like zinc, and they're also very high in cholesterol, which I've talked about, I don't know, a trillion times on the podcast, dietary cholesterol, if you bump that up, if you're healthy,

Starting point is 00:27:14 and you increase your cholesterol intake, you will notice strength gains and faster recovery. And shellfish is a great way to get there. Yeah, a little surf and turf, man, I'm excited. Yeah, totally. That's an awesome job. Yeah, I love it. I love it anyway.

Starting point is 00:27:28 I saw this interesting study about narcissist. Did you guys know so they've connected? Why the fuck do you point at me when you said that? You see, just do that? It's a little finger. Yeah, you know, you do. Well, I know, I did this interesting study about narcissism. Well, we're on YouTube now.

Starting point is 00:27:44 I like to point to things I'm talking about. And so the people watching YouTube, YouTube land, narcissists, no, they showed that narcissists are more likely to participate in political rallies and protests. Oh, really? Yeah. So people, I mean, it kind of makes sense, right?

Starting point is 00:28:01 You feel like you're more. You're virtuous. Important than, you know, whatever. So you're gonna go out and speak out and do a bunch of things. Right. So it's a nice little thing. You're gonna command your views. That's a nice little insult.

Starting point is 00:28:12 You can use it to somebody. Yeah. Out with a sign. Hey, you're a narcissist. Yeah, but I remember when we did that one thing with your, you had the psychologist that came on here and did that. There's good narcissism and there's bad narcissism.

Starting point is 00:28:24 Right. So it's like, which one is that one that makes you go out and go out and protest? Well, if you're gonna do anything that you think's gonna have a big impact, you probably think more highly of yourself than not, right? You're gonna start a business. People who don't really think highly of themselves don't put themselves out there, I would think.

Starting point is 00:28:42 So narcissism's associated with someone you know, with some of that. That makes sense. Dude, I got a DM yesterday. It really makes me so angry. You know, we moved away from that competitor space of the fitness space for a while now. You know, for newer listeners who don't know, you know, Adam was a professional, physique competitor. And, you know, so we were in that space a little bit more.

Starting point is 00:29:03 We used to talk about like drama between competitors and their girlfriends. I'm like, what the hell are we doing? Yeah, that's a really good shit about this. That was right. Just an, yeah. But that did that space such a bad side of fitness. It makes me so angry.

Starting point is 00:29:19 I got a DM from a young lady. She can't be any older than 23 years old. She's got to be in her early 20s and she sends me a DM and she goes, Hey, my bikini coach is recommending that I take Osterin. What do you think about this? Osterin is a, is a, is a charm, a selective Androgen receptor module. It's a, it's a drug that attaches to the Androgen Receptor, similar to how testosterone would. And he's recommending it to this young girl

Starting point is 00:29:49 to get her to compete. So I looked up the coach. He's got a huge following. He's this dirt bag bikini competitor coach. And he's putting these girls on, you know, like male hormone types. A lot of them do, bro. It's so, I messaged her.

Starting point is 00:30:04 I said, all right, I said, first off, this acts on your endrogen receptors. Could mess up your hormones for life. Could affect your fertility. You need to tell them to fuck off. It's not worth a trophy for you to do this. Yeah, a plastic one that no one gives a shit of. Oh, it makes me so mad that they do these.

Starting point is 00:30:19 And I think that, you know, the women get worse than the men, they get the worse, worse off than the men because all these so many of these chemicals and hormones are male-derived hormones. So you know, you give a guy a- Reversible. Yeah, you give a guy extra testosterone, he gets some side effects,

Starting point is 00:30:35 but you give a girl extra testosterone or testosterone-like substances, and you're gonna get way worse. It's essentially sex change. I've heard, yeah, I've heard this just, you know, wins of people talking about this with a lot of the bikini competitors. And they're like, what is this?

Starting point is 00:30:51 Between that and like, Anavar, I've heard of and like some other, yeah, some testosterone, like type anabolic. And it's just like, why would you, why would you even need to include that? The worst part is, too, then they put them on like a 16 week prep. Oh, and where's their hammer there?

Starting point is 00:31:06 And their tables and cardio every day, like sometimes twice a day. And then you're, and then you're adding drugs on top of that. Star of them. Like, what the fuck are you thinking? And what makes me mad because they're young competitors and it's some, you know, some dirt bag 40 year old, you know, coach who makes his money doing this. And they put their trust in this coach, and so they're like,

Starting point is 00:31:28 should I, is this gonna be safe? Yeah, I do this with everybody. Yeah, I put, look, here's the champions that I've, she won, you know, regional second place by me putting her on this and it'll make you so lean and you'll be so strong and you'll love it. They're influencing these girls, not realizing that they're gonna potentially mess themselves up.

Starting point is 00:31:48 You know, in the future, it makes me so angry. So I told her, I said, yeah, tell them to f-off. You know what I mean? I almost wanted a message in, but I'm not gonna go that far. Well, Dad, don't do that. There's no reason to do that. It's more common than not. I know.

Starting point is 00:32:01 It's rare that I actually meet a coach in that space who I think does it the right way with a lot of these competitors where, you know, that's the last resort is to allow them to do the job. I mean, at the end of the day, you're an individual, you can do whatever you want to do. You know, like, if you want to put something in your body, and I try, I tell you the risk and you still want to do it, I can't tell you know, I can't tell you can't, but I'm going to try and convince you to do it, I can't tell you no, you know, I can't tell you can't, but I'm gonna try and convince you to do it as natural as possible for as long as you can possible,

Starting point is 00:32:29 especially if this is not something that you think is gonna be a lifelong career. I'm not judging a guy who decides that, 20 something years old, he's gonna get into the bodybuilding world and that's all he's ever dreamed of and that's what he wants to do for the rest of his life and he just aspires to be the biggest human on earth like okay to each their own. But I mean if you're doing this because and what I would what I found during this time

Starting point is 00:32:50 right now in the last like decade, it's become so popular to you know get a Instagram following from you know winning a show and in you know posting your physique that so many of this younger generation coming up, things like this is just the model of like how you make money. You can monetize that. But haven't they been cracking down quite a bit on that in terms of like how they portray it

Starting point is 00:33:15 and how they advertise these products as an influencer? A little bit, but you know, there's still that allure, you know, I think what women need to be told, I think what needs to be communicated more to women is that the risks associated with extreme dieting, overtraining, incommunation with these types of drugs are actually far higher for women than they are for men. It's still a risk for men, but for women, you first off, your fertility can get affected very, very badly, much more so than a man, getting that lean alone, just even if you didn't naturally, getting shredded effects of females body worse than a man's, a male's body, and then putting them on these hormones

Starting point is 00:33:57 or hormone-like substances, it's really like me putting a man on estrogen or estrogen-like substances. It's really no different, but they're putting women on the opposite so it's like, you know If you're a woman you go to the doctor and you get a sex change kind of what they do They put you on these types of drugs and you're doing it maybe to a less degree to look better on stage But you you start to affect yourself in ways that might not be reversible You know in the future it really annoys the hell out of me. Hey Adam I wanted a comment on,

Starting point is 00:34:25 you made a video on your Instagram. Oh yeah, I'm looking for a ring this up. Dude, you're pretty awesome. You should have fucked off. I'm serious. No, you were big on that one. I was like, oh, what do you do, dude? What is that waterboarding?

Starting point is 00:34:38 What's that called? It's Wakeboarding. Wakeboarding. What? That's the wrong kind of water. Yeah, I know, it's the new craze. Yeah, it's the wrong kind of one or so. Yeah, I know. That's the new craze.

Starting point is 00:34:47 It's, yeah, it's torturing. Yeah, apparently it's not like riding a bike. You do lose it, right? So it's not that, it's not as easy as I thought. Man, I had, it's been. You look good. Well, thank you. Besides the cool face you were making.

Starting point is 00:35:00 Did you notice that? Yeah. As he's riding, he's like, Except leave it to our farm to create a meme of that. Did you see that? Oh, yeah. I don't know. Yeah. The best comment was, You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:35:09 You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:35:17 You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I long time, right? So I started, someone was asking me the other day that in my DMs after I posted that,

Starting point is 00:35:26 right? Like, how long I've been riding this night? So I've been riding since we watched and learned on video cassette. So that's when we started, when we started Wakeboarding. It wasn't even a thing yet. It was, the boards looked totally different. They were incredibly hard to get up on and ride. My buddies and I were, we were in junior high and we were hardcore into it and trying to learn

Starting point is 00:35:48 and we said we'd watch video cassettes all the time. And, you know, in high school, I got pretty decent at it. And then at a high school, I rode, you know, almost every summer, at least for a couple of weeks out of the summer I would ride. And then I got into my 20s and just, you know, it would be occasional every once in a while. I'd get out for, you know, a little bit of ride. And then I got into my 20s and just, you know, it would be occasional every once in a while, I'd get out for, you know, a little bit of ride. And then you saw the dip of like, you know,

Starting point is 00:36:10 how much I was riding and like, how long I would be ride for, be like one run. Okay, I'm good. And that's enough. I could still do it. You know, that was kind of the deal. So I mean, I got, I got, you know, I got Katrina out there and my son out there. The number four. Yeah, so I'm gonna ride it. For an honest. I rode both days and boy, I tell you what, I haven't felt like this in a long time. I literally feel like I wrestled a silverback gorilla

Starting point is 00:36:36 and got my ass handed to me. Oh, you just saw her everywhere? I mean, my toes, like the middle of my toes hurt. My fingertips hurt. My biceps both feel like they've been tore off, my neck is sore, like, I mean, my core is unbelievably sore, legs hamstring, I mean, everything.

Starting point is 00:36:50 There's like, completely outside your normal activity. It was very eye opening though for me. I told Katrina I said it, you know, and I'm not the one, when something like that happens, I'd say, I don't shy away within like, you know, all it's hanging up. I'm like, oh my God, I need this. Like, if I felt that sore,

Starting point is 00:37:07 I woke up that many muscles that I just have stopped using or that have been dormant, that I feel that sore, that oh my God, I need to be doing more. So yeah, no, it was nice. It was a little frustrating for me though, because I could ride. Like I used to be pretty decent at it.

Starting point is 00:37:22 So yeah, well, you look good. I watched the video. What part did you watch? Did you not watch the second part? I didn't see you but try to jump You tried to jump and then you he's not judging your landing. Yeah Yeah, but you mean you were cruising and you were doing I mean you look like you definitely look like it was something you've done Oh, yeah, so is it left or right is is your favorite side is mine's always going to the left So yeah, when you go, when you cut,

Starting point is 00:37:45 there's that. Oh wow, thanks, Doc. Thank you. That's an air though. Yeah, you got some air. Well, so I mean, that was like everybody in the boat was asking, they're like, why are you doing such a big jump? Why don't you, I'm like, well, first of all,

Starting point is 00:37:57 it's easier on the other side. So part of like jumping on a wakeboard is to clear the wake. On the other side of the wake, it's like, when you hit it, it's loose on the way down. It's like butter ramp. But if you hit a jump and you land in the middle of the wake,

Starting point is 00:38:12 it's like landing on concrete. And so it just, you absorb all of it, it's harder to stick it and everything like that. So, yeah, and riding on your edge on your heel side is much easier than toe side. But, I mean, I've been riding along the network. I don't wear skate. Yeah, I can, I've been riding along the next way of skating. Yeah, I can, I can, it's easier.

Starting point is 00:38:26 It is a lot, we had that. So we had that. Yeah, we did, yeah, we did that and we rode, but I mean, I wanted to, I mean, this is something I've been doing for a long time, so I wanted to see if I still had it in me and obviously I did not. I thought I could.

Starting point is 00:38:37 So when you fall, because I've never done any of it, it doesn't hurt. I was just gonna say everybody, like, oh my God, tell me on a scale, one to 10, how bad it is. It just feels like you're dying into a pool. Yeah, it's all how you depends on how hard you go But yeah, it's like how you crash like so I so I've I've been knocked out wakeboard And it's the only sport that is actually knocked me out and I was throwing what's called a tantrum where you open up and

Starting point is 00:38:58 You got real mad. Yeah, yeah, throw a fit right? But it's like a true black backflip right so I can do a barrel roll I've met when I was younger throw fit, right? It's like a true backflip, right? So I can do a barrel roll when I was younger, for certainly not now. I hit the wake and you open up and you do a true backflip where you open all the way. And I was upside down completely, let go of the handle and then like pancake down my back.

Starting point is 00:39:19 And I'm like probably twice as high as I am in that photo that everyone is going around, they're fucking forming my now. And landed flat on the water like that with like, oh, pan kicked out on my back and my head. And I would just, I remember like the boat coming around to get me and that's like, I came too when they were already next to me.

Starting point is 00:39:36 It takes a minute normally for the boat to come back. So I was out for, I don't know, 30 seconds or whatever like that when I came too. So yeah, that, it can hurt, it definitely can hurt. But crashing like that, it looks worse. Like I had one, I had weather falls where I'd sent it even further than that. And I came completely out of the board. That's when you know it's like a good fall. Like when you come out and the board is, you know, 20 yards away from you because you got launched out of the board.

Starting point is 00:40:00 So that wasn't that bad. And Justin, you keep saying animus. Is that what happens? You just hit your eyes. Oh, yeah. No, you don't. If you, if the board slides that wasn't that bad. And Justin you keep saying anima is that what happens? You just hit your eyes and you're having to move. Oh yeah, if the board slides out from underneath you and your ass goes first, then you go like right up there. Yeah, I lost my shorts a few times. You get Lake Water. Yeah, I'm tasting in your throat. Cleaned you out.

Starting point is 00:40:18 Go fast enough. Oh, for sure dude. That's not even clean as well. Yeah, shout out to Ben Greenfield. Yeah, that's one way to do it. Yeah, that's not even the cleanest one. Yeah, shout out to Ben Greenfield. Yeah, that's one way to do it. That was Max's first time, he was such a trooper man. He was sick all week and we already had this trip plan right. We had the boat rented, we had a house set up on the lake.

Starting point is 00:40:37 He looks tall right now. He does, you know it's so funny. I gotta show you guys a picture of when Katrina wears them in the Bjorn. He looks like he's fucking four. Yeah. Because he's just so long. I mean, he's taller than his. So we have my two best friends that are older than that have kids that are older than him. And he's already the height of the oldest one. He's taller than he is. He might be a basketball player. I hope so. Right. So he's super long, but it looks so funny when Katrina walks him, walks with him in the Bjorn, because his legs hang

Starting point is 00:41:09 all the way down like past her knees. So she looks like she's carrying like a little in the ribs. Yeah, he's some lazy four year old kid. Yeah, like a lazy four year old kid. I'm like, you ever see parents that like, push their kid in the stroller still, and his legs can touch the ground? That was me when I was little. Like dude, make that fucking kid walk dude. That's doing the Flintstone. That was me. My parents had to push me around. It's a little fat. Oh my God.

Starting point is 00:41:30 So I'm off-cat and stroll the room and push me around. We actually cut the trip short ago. I was like 12. He definitely, it's so funny. Like, so Katrina and I feel like are very sensitive to like people around us and like the energy in a room when we get a lot of different people, we can always tell the vibe series is not right, let's go. And so I tell her that anytime anything is off like that,

Starting point is 00:41:53 I feel like he's definitely the blend of the two of us, like he's ultra sensitive that, like when there's tons of people in it or if a couple is fighting or something going on, like it throws him off completely. He makes him in this awful, crabby, needy mood where all he wants is to be on me or to be on Katrina and he doesn't want to roam like he normally does.

Starting point is 00:42:14 So he was like that, dude. And I don't know if it was that or it was because he was coming off of being sick still and he just, you know, we take him drag him out to the lake and, you know, because you're around the sun and the wind. Well, that, that, that, that all good form, right? I figured get him out in the sun would be good. And he was pretty good on the boat.

Starting point is 00:42:33 I just think that being away from home and not feeling good where I get that, right? I don't like to be away from my house when I don't, when I don't feel good. So we actually bailed a day early and came, came back and brought him back and he was in like 10 times. He's such a cute little boy. Yeah, you guys came by to pick up a couple things you see him in the back. He's a running nose.

Starting point is 00:42:51 Oh, he's such a cute little guy. I can't wait, man. Hey, so what's up with the, like I noticed that they're putting some of our apparel like $5, $10. Yeah, so yeah, now this is, so we're getting ready to launch the new apparel side. Super excited. The MindPump merch we're getting ready to launch the new apparel side super excited the the mine pump merch Side is getting ready to go live before it goes live

Starting point is 00:43:09 Rachel wants to clear out like all the old inventories We have a lot of like shirts that we have like a medium left or one of the large up So to get rid of all of it. I know she's pricing it like under $10 So there's a huge blowout sale for all the apparel that we have left right now of the last season stuff, and then we're gonna launch the new site. So right now go to myandputmedia.com. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:43:33 Go under apparel, and then you'll get the crazy. Yeah, it should be right there. As soon as you click on the apparel, it should show the sale right there. So yeah, I know, hooking it up fat for everybody to kind of blow out all the old inventory and then launch the new site. This Quas brought to you by Organify.

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Starting point is 00:44:23 I'm having trouble with my lower abs. What was the name of the YouTube video that we did? So, hip flexor deactivator. The traction. Yeah, so, okay, so let me address first, the whole lower ab thing. Your abdominal muscles have kind of two attachments. The one attachment is at the pelvis, another attachment is at the rib cage.

Starting point is 00:44:43 And so, in the abs contract, it's that whole area. Yeah, there is no lower or upper abs. There is no other attachment. So I know a lot of people say, do this exercise for lower abs, or this exercise for upper abs. This really worked that way. The abs all contract, or they don't,

Starting point is 00:44:58 and the two anchor points are at the bottom on the top, and that's it. But as far as connecting the abs, this is actually quite important. In fact, more people have issues connecting to their ab muscles than don't. Just feeling them burned doesn't mean you necessarily connect to them very well.

Starting point is 00:45:15 There's a lot of muscles that can fold the body forward. So when you look at ab exercises in general, especially the classic ab exercises, they involve folding your body forward, but you can also fold the body forward using your hip flexors, for example. And those tend to be more active in most people. The abs fold the body forward at the lumbar spine,

Starting point is 00:45:38 not at the hips. That's what will work the abs. So one of the things you want to do to help connect to your abs is understand the function work the app. So one of the things you want to do to help connect to your apps is understand the function of the apps. It literally rolls you forward at the lumbar spine, at the lower part of your spine, not at the hips. So if you do a leg raise, the raising of the legs isn't working your abs.

Starting point is 00:46:00 It's the rotating of the pelvis that works the abs. If you do any kind of a sit-up, it's the rolling forward that works the abs, it's not the folding forward, necessarily that works the abs. So consider that first. But the most common reason why people don't feel the abs connecting is because the hip flexors are doing a lot of the work.

Starting point is 00:46:19 And I did that video that Adam talked about called hip flexor deactivators. And essentially what you do in that movement, and I'll walk you through it through the podcast, you land your back and you put your feet up on a bench, or a physio ball with your knees bent, push down into the bench, or the physio ball with your heels,

Starting point is 00:46:35 lift your hips up off the floor just a little bit. And what you're doing is you're activating your glutes. You wanna squeeze your glutes. Now the reason why you wanna activate your glutes is because when you activate one muscle, it helps to relax your glutes. Now, the reason why you want to activate your glutes is because when you activate one muscle, it helps to relax the opposing muscle. And the opposing muscles from the glutes are the hip flexors. So now that the glutes are active,

Starting point is 00:46:54 the hip flexors are more likely to stay out of the exercise. And then you can practice slow crunches. And this will help you feel the abs rather than do movements with your crunches. Serine also did another video with an assisted perfect setup which I love to teach. I think that's a great way to teach somebody to really activate their abs and slow it down. A lot of times when people struggle with feeling their abs, it's like a speed thing, right? They're just using momentum and they're rocking their head and their neck and their like Sousin using so many other muscles to get them up get the exercise up and they feel a little bit in the abs because you know

Starting point is 00:47:31 Maybe on the way stabilizing. Yeah stabilizing or the way down right as you go back down on the floor You feel them a little bit and so you assume that you are working them But they can be worked so much better and just by Slowly rolling the spine up like in in a perfect setup, articulating that. Is that a perfect setup or McGill setup? Is it the same thing? Yeah, I don't know if it's called a, I don't know what a McGill setup is.

Starting point is 00:47:53 It could be, it could be, I've seen different people call it different titles. I know, I think Serene titled it, a assisted perfect setup when she did the video. It's a really good video because it's already hard. I think most people are challenged even to watch. So using a band to kind of help assist you up so you could really focus on the rolling of the spine,

Starting point is 00:48:14 I think is a great exercise. Yeah, it's educating too to see kind of what, when you start to articulate each one of those vertebrae, like where the sticking points are, where it's extra hard for you to get some in that strength to kind of curl your body into that position. But yeah, to learn that process of being able to actually roll forward and use your abs, you know,

Starting point is 00:48:34 in that direction is eye opening when you get it down. Oh yeah, physio ball crunches are good at this, but you know, here's the thing with physio ball crunches, you can also make it so that you don't really work your abs very much at all. Oh, easily. So if you get on a Fisial Ball, and Fisial Ball Crunches, by the way, one of my favorite ab exercises, which you do improperly, you put your lower back on the top of the ball, bend your legs, and then put your feet on the floor, and then push your butt up, and while you're pushing your butt up, allow your lower back to wrap around the ball. So now you're kind of arching back and then crunch over the ball while pushing your hips up. This will

Starting point is 00:49:09 help anchor the hips and kind of get those hip flexors out of the movement and help you focus on the ass. Yeah, that's one of the biggest things I see people misusing it is they'll start dropping their hips down and letting their hips kind of move with and roll with the exercise. And they start just rocking, rocking with back and forth. Next question is from Joey 0089. What are your thoughts on primal movement or animal flow? Justin, didn't you go on a kick on this for a little bit? Or did you just all your guys inside your gym?

Starting point is 00:49:36 Yeah, in my gym. I guess I was picking up on, because they all went to the animal flow, a certification and kind of brought back a lot of these movements. And I thought it was interesting. I thought it was like, how the hell am I going to incorporate this with clients? Because it's pretty out there in terms of getting people to a subscribe to the idea of

Starting point is 00:49:55 like crawling and moving in all these like weird directions. But I mean, I understand the concept of it in terms of like applying positions that are challenging, whether in a static pose or now like with movement where, you know, I'm trying to connect everything. I'm trying to get more body awareness and be able to have more command over my body. And it's really challenging and it's hard. A lot of people don't like to stay in that position where you're in sort of a quadriped type position and then do these types of crawling patterns.

Starting point is 00:50:29 It's really challenging, but it's interesting because it's a totally different way to train your body. It's really inclusive of the entire system. And so I think that there's validity in it, but in terms of kind of contrasting that with lifting weights, we're so robotic and focused on either single joints or just sagittal plane type exercises that this totally is a shock for people.

Starting point is 00:51:02 So it takes a lot of practice. That's where I think it's phenomenal. I think this is, so I haven't gone through the certification. I've practiced some of the movements that you'll find in animal flow. It was towards the end of my training career, so I haven't used it a lot with clients. But I tell you what, this is something that I could see myself

Starting point is 00:51:20 like getting, I went on a mobility kick, I've gone on a bodybuilding kick, I've gone on a strength kick for a while. I on a strength, you know, kick for a while, like I'll go on these kicks where like I'm just gonna focus on something and get really good at it. I think there would be tremendous benefit to somebody like saying, I'm just gonna get good at this animal flow.

Starting point is 00:51:36 I think that one, you're gonna get some muscle from it. Obviously, if your goal is to build maximal muscle, it's not the most optimal way for you. Obviously bodybuilding type of routine, strength goal is to build maximal muscle, it's not the most optimal way for you. Obviously, body building type of routine, strength routine is going to build more muscle, but you will get some muscle from it. You're going to get some, but more than anything else, you're going to work on your movement. And like Justin, you were alluding to this, like your entire body working together and then moving in all these different plans. So your joint mobility and health, I think would be phenomenal from going through this. Yeah, I'm just familiarizing yourself

Starting point is 00:52:08 with being placed in a position that you wouldn't normally find yourself in throughout the day. So to be able to work your way out of that with strength, I think that's really interesting. And I think a lot of people could benefit from that because most injuries are gonna occur when your body's in a position you're not familiar with. And then now what happens is you try to gain stability

Starting point is 00:52:32 really hard in one direction while your body might be turning or moving in another direction, and then boom, you're caught off guard. Well, it reminds me of the feeling that I have right now from the weight, talking about weight-porting. I mean, my body was contorted in a way that it hadn't been contorted in a very long time and I was reminded of that, like by how sore I am right now

Starting point is 00:52:52 and just by doing movements like that, probably would have prevented the way I feel today had I been doing things like that. Yeah, I think it's important though, we kind of discern between the primal patterns and animal flow because they are different. Primal patterns refers to movement patterns that we consider to be fundamental to humans, the human animals.

Starting point is 00:53:13 Swatting. So the squatting, lunging, there's bending or hip-hinging, twisting, which would be like throwing, for example, that's which is a fundamental movement, pulling, pushing, and then gate, walking, jogging, or sprinting. I'm a huge proponent of primal pattern movements. In fact, the most effective exercises with weights that you could do from a muscle building, fat burning, body sculpting perspective.

Starting point is 00:53:38 They don't have crawling? No, not on the primal patterns now. That's interesting. tend to be around these primal patterns. If you think of all the most effective exercises that we talk about, they're either squatting, lunging, bending, twisting, pulling, pushing, or have to do with gate, right?

Starting point is 00:53:54 So there's that. Then when it comes to animal flow, that's a little bit different. Animal flow is more... Break dancing moves. No, that's the easy way to describe it. Well, animal flow is more stuff that's quadruped on hands and knees, crawling, gorilla bear, that kind of stuff.

Starting point is 00:54:11 And I think that what they try to do is hark back to before, maybe we became, you know, too late. Well, you're emulating a lot of animals that aren't upright. And so you're trying to kind of move where you're getting like scapular involvement with your walking, with your hands and your bending, and you're being able to stabilize your body in that position. Yeah, so if I was to give like to rate both of them,

Starting point is 00:54:34 I'd say primal movement patterns, I believe to be much more valuable, but that doesn't mean that animal flow movements don't have a lot of value because getting on the floor, moving with hands and knees, doing these kinds of movements is gonna work on mobility, just naturally because you're on the floor, you're twisting, you're turning, you're using your hands and knees,

Starting point is 00:54:54 it is gonna work on wrist mobility, shoulder mobility, hip mobility, spinal mobility, it's gonna help you get your body to communicate with itself differently. Just by practicing those movements, you're gonna get better at moving overall. So I think they both have a lot of value, but if I had to pick one to focus on,

Starting point is 00:55:12 the primal movement patterns just have a longer history of evidence. I think primal movement is mandatory. Yeah, I think that's a mandatory one and then animal foundational. Yeah, and then animal flow to me is a, it would be a cool, fun focus, right? It's like, if you wanted to get into something

Starting point is 00:55:28 that's unique and different, that it would have all kinds of these benefits that maybe you weren't aware of. Like, yeah, somebody who deals with like, chronic joint pain and tight and all the time, like going in, practicing animal flow, and maybe less focused on building a bunch of maximal muscle inside the gym and doing that instead,

Starting point is 00:55:46 I would, you would see tremendous benefit from that. I look at it too, it's a progression of challenging your mobility, after view of establish that you're stable. Yeah, so it's like, now I want to be able to actually work on strengthening it even more without just using it as maintenance. I want to challenge it.

Starting point is 00:56:02 And I look at the same way with mace bells and Indian clubs and things like that that are unconventional, but it provides this fluidity of movement that's loaded. And so you're using like loaded because you're using gravitational forces being in this quadruped position. So it's really challenging.

Starting point is 00:56:18 It's hard. And it's interesting that way. Next question is from Jackie Martinez 1983. Hey Jackie! What does it take to always be on? On. She put that in quotation. I think she means feeling like you're your best on. Yeah, like you're on fire. You know, here's the key with that. I, I spent a lot of, you know, my 20s, I would say, and maybe even some of my 30s trying to figure out how to always be on.

Starting point is 00:56:45 But then I started to realize that the key really is to figure out how to perform when you're not on. Being on means being healthy, taking care of yourself, getting good sleep. But even if you do all of that, you're not going to be on all the time. You're not going to feel like you're on fire and motivated all the time. You can't. It's impossible. It's a feeling that you have and it waxes and wanes. And the most successful people, and I don't care what category you pick, are the ones that are disciplined and can stay consistent when they're not on. Because when you're on, you're

Starting point is 00:57:22 going to be consistent. You're going to work out. When you're feeling motivated, I've never had to convince a motivated client to eat consistent. You're gonna work out. When you're feeling, I've never had to convince a motivated client to eat better. They're doing it on their own. It's when they're not feeling that way. That's when the real work comes into play. So I think it's really about practicing and learning how to continue to do the right things,

Starting point is 00:57:39 to continue to work hard, to continue to take care of yourself, be an honest person, do all the stuff that you know was good when you don't feel like it. I think that's the key. I feel like there's two different personalities with this. I feel like there's people that can are always driven to turn it on. You know, whatever state they're in, they always have to turn it on. And they have a really hard time learning how to turn it off and being able to decompress and be able to recover and rejuvenate. And all that stuff sounds like a dirty word.

Starting point is 00:58:11 And then obviously the opposite of that where it's like, I just want to stay comfortable. I don't like change. I don't want to do else. I just want to be chill. And then you really need to turn it on. And that's a hard thing for them to do. And a lot of my clients that I had, a lot of it really, like,

Starting point is 00:58:28 revolved around being able to turn that off and to be able to really focus in inward and be able to learn how to meditate and learn how to proper recover. And so, yeah, I would just look at case by case, like who kind of falls a little bit more on both sides of the spectrum. Well, I'm with you at case by case, like who kind of falls a little bit more on both sides of the spectrum?

Starting point is 00:58:46 Well, I'm with you, Justin, that first of all, I don't think it's advantageous to be on all the time. But I do think this is what separates champions and everybody else. I think when you have the ability to switch on at command, regardless of what's going on in your life, regardless of the rough childhood or the rough stuff going on in your life, regardless of, you know, the rough childhood or the rough stuff going on with your relationship or the hardship that you have at work,

Starting point is 00:59:10 if you have the ability to shut those things off and turn on, on command is what I think separates the people that from good to great. And that plays into sports, that plays into your business life, that plays into your relationship. Can you turn it on when it matters, when it's tough, when it's hard, when you're tired and fatigued, when there's lots of drama in your life? Can you show up and switch on and be the best version you at that thing that you're doing? Does that mean that your health may be suffering?

Starting point is 00:59:41 Does that mean that there's other things that are troubling in your life? No, that's life. Everybody has that. We all have hardships, we all have struggles, we have hurdles. Do you have the ability, despite all those things that are going on in your life, to turn it on and be the best version of you at that moment at whatever it is you're doing? And that could be your craft, it could be your job, it could be a sport.

Starting point is 01:00:04 And this, to me, is what really separates those that are great. Those that are great have this ability to know that all this shit is going on in my life. And here's the thing is a lot of times those that are really great, when it's most chaotic, they hone in even more on whatever it is they're focusing on. So they use that fuel of like all this other chaos and shit and stress and everything going on in my life. Like they use that fuel of like all this other chaos and shit

Starting point is 01:00:25 and stress and everything going on my life. Like they get even more tunnel vision on whatever it is they're doing, whether that be their job, whether it be their sport or their craft, they just go all in on it and they turn on completely. So yeah, it brings me back to Stephen Kotler, Jamie Wheel, like they're talking about flow state. And you see that with your top performers,

Starting point is 01:00:45 like how they can weave in and out of that and gain flow state and have access to it. And a lot of it is just being present. And I think that a lot of times when I'm not on, I'm thinking too much in the future. And I'm trying to anticipate, and I work on this a lot actually with, as of late, over the last year,

Starting point is 01:01:06 so of learning how to stop analyzing, stop thinking like 10 steps ahead, and just come out with it, and always comes out better when you're present. And so being on is most closely associated, for me, with being present. Yeah, and here's the other thing, too, is I remember you used to tell this to my salespeople,

Starting point is 01:01:25 motion creates emotion. And what I mean by that is, we're talking about how to get your body and yourself to all of a sudden turn on. Part of that, a lot of that's discipline. Like, there's many times, I'll use that exercise in an example just cause it's a simple silly one, but there's many times when I don't feel like working out,

Starting point is 01:01:42 the discipline gets me up and gets me going, 20 minutes into it Now I'm on and I'm having a great workout or I don't want to do this thing for the business. I need to write this thing and I really don't feel like it, but the discipline gets me going and then that's what turns that switch on. So a lot of it has to do with discipline and doing it anyway, you know, that's what I mean by discipline is you do it anyway. And oftentimes doing it anyway. You know, that's what I mean by discipline, is you do it anyway. And oftentimes, doing it anyway is what gets that feeling of being on. And the more you practice that,

Starting point is 01:02:12 the more you know, and the more confident you become in the fact that you can do it anyway. No matter how I feel or how scared I am or how tired I am, I've done things anyway so many times the past, I have no fear that I won't do that. I know I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it anyway, even if I don't feel good, I'm still, I am. I've done things anyway so many times the past. I have no fear that I won't do that. I know I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it anyway, even if I don't feel good,

Starting point is 01:02:28 I'm still gonna do it. And then that feeling alone, sometimes, oftentimes, makes you feel like you're on. Biker also helps. Next question is from Pride Movement Fitness. Why did you guys partner up versus going solo? How did you balance the ego of I'm bringing this much to the business, but they're only bringing this much?

Starting point is 01:02:51 That last sentence right there is the death nail and any successful group, whether you look at music or business, that whole attitude of almost six years and that's never been said in this business. Never. And you know what? And I'll tell you what, there are definitely moments when, in times in what we do, where one person's doing a lot more than the other, or bringing more value.

Starting point is 01:03:14 Nobody says it. Nobody, if anything, I'll acknowledge the other person as I, I'll never try to do that for myself because I know that that's the death nail for any successful team. You know what? It's really this. It's realizing that however good and awesome you are,

Starting point is 01:03:28 you're not the best at everything. So surrounding yourself with people who are better than you at other things, when I was younger, that was a hard thing for me to see because it felt like a weakness in myself, like, oh, that person's better than me at this. And it was like a hard ego check. As I got older, I loved it.

Starting point is 01:03:44 Now, I'm like, oh, that person's better than me at this. I'm so glad I'm working with them. So that that person can bring that thing to the table. There's no way that, I'm just speaking for myself. There's no way that I would be able to do, anywhere near what we're able to do without working with the team that I work with because they bring things to the table that I either can't or

Starting point is 01:04:05 don't want to. And that's just a reality. It's a fact of life. Yeah, it's humbling. I mean, it's one of those things that you look at strengths and you look at your own strengths, your own weaknesses. But obviously, if you can see around you and you see greatness, like you want to associate yourself with people around you that you know will elevate you.

Starting point is 01:04:25 And so to be able to maintain that is definitely tricky. And it's something that you want to always think that you're doing your best and putting your best with forward. And again, like it moves around. It moves around with people's strengths. And so you have to be able to kind of feed them in any way possible that you can. And it's definitely one of those things that's an ego thing that you got to check on yourself and know that we're all putting in effort. We all want to win. And this all comes from being part of a team and thinking of it more of a team instead

Starting point is 01:04:58 of an individual. And this is, I was just grateful that I grew up in all the sports that I played because it really taught me a lot of those lessons with great players and great coaches and people that had roles that they were killing. I know I could lean on them for certain roles that they were going to fulfill. When there wasn't that, how shitty we were as a collective unit. And so it's allowing them to shine. It's allowing each person to shine in their strengths and to just pass the ball. You know, pass the ball shoot,

Starting point is 01:05:33 when you'd be ready to shoot, but you got to pass the ball. I think that there was either a lot of luck or serendipity or God, whichever one of the three that fits your narrative better. It was either Hoska. Yeah. Or that.

Starting point is 01:05:48 I think that played a big role. And the reason why I say that is that it, to get for alpha men in the room that are all very confident individually and have had success on their own, to think that we're all just going to fall in suit together. Maybe it was even a little bit of us being naive, but worked out. It really did. And I think part of why it worked out is somewhat where we were in our life, you know, everybody's in their late 30s, some older.

Starting point is 01:06:21 You have myself, I had already partnered with Justin. So Justin and I had a relationship that goes back Well before mine pump and so we'd work together So I knew that his skill sets complemented mine really well We were very different, but we also had that sport background that he's alluding to where you know Winning is more important than either of us individually We already had that we'd already been to war together in business. So I already felt confident with that.

Starting point is 01:06:48 I feel like Sal and Doug had a very similar relationship. They first had built a relationship as client and trainer and many times when you meet someone very unique and special like that, you build a bond and a relationship. They had built that already. They were already starting to do business together, so they had this mutual respect. Also, I think, Sal and Doug saw that in each other, the same thing that just nice all, they complemented each other's strengths and weaknesses.

Starting point is 01:07:16 They had built that and forged. Then the fact that when we all got together, it really was just like, there's a lot of, even though we're all very different, there's a lot of, even though we're all very different, there's a lot of Sal and I have a lot of similarities, and I think Doug and Justin have a lot of similarities, and it's like, but yet different enough that Justin complements even more of Doug and Sal complements even more of me,

Starting point is 01:07:38 or however you wanna look at it. And so then the four of us joining together made this perfect marriage for a business. And I think it also mattered that we all wanted to build something really big. Like none of us were in it for like a dollar amount. Like, oh, I wanna make this much money and I'll be happy. Because we could have done something similar

Starting point is 01:07:58 even though nothing like mine pumped would ever happen, but we all could have been very successful building some sort of a social platform, doing digital programs, selling it online, creating a presence for yourself, and all had individual successful business. But there's no way we would have been able to scale to where we are now and where we're going without all of us together. And I think everybody kind of wanted that going in.

Starting point is 01:08:20 Everybody wanted to build something really special and big. We wanted to change things. Yeah, and because we all had this crazy vision, it worked. And all of us, no one wanted to be the man. Like nobody cared. I knew that's when I knew we were gonna be really successful early, very early on when no one wanted the line light. No one said they wanted to be this leader person

Starting point is 01:08:44 or like I'm the one who's in charge, then you follow me or wanting to be on all in the programs or wanting to be on the YouTube channel or wanting to be the face of the brand. Like nobody wanted any of that. Like everybody was like, no, I don't want it. Like let's give it to somebody else or let's promote somebody else or let's put somebody else out there.

Starting point is 01:09:01 And when you have four people like that want to win that bad and are that selfless going into it and then that much experience, I mean, you get something like this. So I think it's very special and I don't know if I could have done, figured out, you know, three other people that I could have done this with. And so, you know, I don't know, call it luck, call it there and dip it, call it whatever you want to call it. But there's definitely a lot of that. And I don't, I don't see a lot of, you know, four partnerships getting together to build a business and working that off. No, I would say that the first step is finding the right people to work with, but the next

Starting point is 01:09:34 step, because let's say you do that, which is hard, by the way. I mean, finding the right people to work with and partner with, that's a tough obstacle to overcome. But once you do, then that means you're gonna be successful, right? Oh, I got the right people. We're all working together. We're all gonna crush. Now comes the bigger obstacle. That's the egos, the egos kick in.

Starting point is 01:09:54 You see this again, in music, in business, in sports, you get the right people working together, then they start to do well, and then the real challenge kicks in. Now it's one person feeling like they're the one that's doing everything, or they're the star of the show, and it destroys amazing things. We did that first part, we found each other, work together. Second part, I think we're doing pretty good too, is checking those egos. But it's a constant thing, it's a constant thing,

Starting point is 01:10:26 and it's really showing the other people that you value them, rather than showing them how valuable you are. I think that's kind of a better way to put it. Well, to that point, we, I mean, with as the business grew, right? So we made no money the first year, second year started to make a little bit of money,

Starting point is 01:10:43 third years when it really started to turn and crank. You know, there was a, and that was the first year, second year started to make a little bit of money, third years when it really started to turn and crank. You know, there was a, that was the first time this, what you're saying right now, I think was really challenged. And I don't feel like it was a challenging decision. It was a very quick, easy decision for all of us, because I think our heads were already there, which is, you know, it'd been very easy to, to line our own pockets as the business started to scale early on, but we reinvested in people.

Starting point is 01:11:05 You know, we knew that this again was much greater and bigger than us, and that if we were going to build this thing that's going to be around for a very long time, and it's going to supply jobs for many people and do these great things, it can't just be about us. And even, and that's a very tempting moment probably. And I, if I was 25 and in that same position, and I saw the amount of money that was coming in the account and knowing that quarter that is mine, if I wanted, like that would Bentley rate it.

Starting point is 01:11:32 That would have been a very challenging situation to be in in my early 20s, where we were all out, like there was no doubt. I mean, we were very, very cautious with that. And then when we got to a point where we felt comfortable that we can invest it, instead of investing in ourselves and paying ourselves more money, we said, let's go out and find other people that we can build this thing with, that we think that we'll add value to this team. And so, and we've continued to do that. And so, you know,

Starting point is 01:11:57 and you don't see us like a lot of these Instagram influencers, you know, driving around the Bentley and doing shit like that, that's flashy and look at me because, you know, driving around the bitly and doing shit like that that's flashy and look at me because, you know, it was never about us. It was always about building something that was greater than us. And I think that that was never a conversation. Not one of us, you know, spoke up and said, hey, I would like to take a bigger salary.

Starting point is 01:12:17 Hey, I'd like some more of my money. Everybody was always about, you know, putting it back into the business and then into people and it's never been different. Let's take my Lambo back. Look, My pump is recorded on video as well as audio. Come check us out on YouTube, My pump podcast. You can also find all of us on Instagram,

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