Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1398: How to Know When You Are Drinking Too Much Caffeine, When You Should Lower a Deadlift Under Control Vs. Dropping It, How to Distinguish Between Being Lazy & Actually Needing a Day Off & More

Episode Date: October 9, 2020

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about controlling a deadlift back to the ground vs. dropping it, how to tell the difference between being lazy and actual...ly needing to take a day off, when to cap your caffeine consumption, and whether following your passion is bad advice. School subjects Mind Pump was weak in. (4:00) New supplement category that is exploding! (12:17) You can die from eating too much black licorice?! (16:32) Justin Recommends, Black Sails on Starz. (21:13) Vuori is now climate neutral. (22:42) Mind Pump’s favorite fast-food chains. (24:49) Adam Recommends, The Playbook on Netflix. (29:08) Studies with Sal and the value of blue light-blocking glasses. (35:44) Funny news with Sal. (41:04) Mind Pump appreciates South Park. (42:41) #Quah question #1 – What do you guys think about controlling a deadlift back to the ground vs. dropping it? (44:37) #Quah question #2 – How do you tell the difference between being lazy and actually needing to take a day off? (48:59) #Quah question #3 – How do you know when to cap your caffeine consumption and how do energy drinks contrast with pre-workouts? (53:26) #Quah question #4 – Is following your passion bad advice? (1:00:59) Related Links/Products Mentioned October Special: MAPS Anabolic and No BS 6-Pack Formula Man dies from eating too much black licorice. The cause - glycyrrhizic acid: What is it? Watch Black Sails Online: Stream Full Series on STARZ Visit Vuori Clothing for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Becoming Climate Neutral - A Letter From Our CEO J Balvin Announces His Own McDonald’s Meal, Talks New Music, Dream Collabs, More The Playbook | Netflix Official Site Visit Felix Gray for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Successful initial results using cannabis terpenes to treat COVID-19 Snake used as face mask on bus South Park - Watch Full Episodes Free Online Mind Pump #610: Dr. Andy Galpin Visit Legion Athletics for the exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code “mindpump” at checkout** Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Andy Galpin (@drandygalpin)  Instagram

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Starting point is 00:00:39 everything's timestamped. Otherwise, listen from beginning to end. Here's what would happen in today's episode. We started by talking about the school subjects we were all weekend. Yes. Oh, by the way, only one of us got a D in a subject. I'm so proud that you admitted something. You'll have to listen to this episode to find out who had the bad grades. Then we talked about a new supplement category that's exploding everywhere. All over people's faces. Listen to that part of the episode to hear what that is
Starting point is 00:01:06 then I talked about somebody overdosing on eating black liquorice it was not Adam it was someone else but it did scare him then we talked about a show on stars Justin is basically talking about how you can sneak this in with the wife called black sales. It was a real subtle with this one then we talked about one of our sponsors Viori they make amazing at the leisure wear and
Starting point is 00:01:25 they just got neutral climate certification. So that's pretty cool. But besides that, they make amazing clothing for the gym or at home or anywhere. Because you listen to Mind Pump, you actually get a huge discount. Here's how you get the discount. Go to VioriClothing.com. That's V-U-O-R-I, clothing.com forward slash mind pump,
Starting point is 00:01:47 and you'll get 25% off your first order. Viori. Then we talk about fast food, our favorite types of fast food. We talk about another show in Netflix called The Playbook. I mentioned a study showing how THC is being studied to treat COVID, no joke, to treat COVID. That's kind of crazy. Way to go weed.
Starting point is 00:02:06 Then we talked about blue light blocking glasses and how they make a sleep. Oh, so good. We work with a company called Felix Gray that makes blue light blocking glasses that don't change the color of everything around you. So they're not orange or red, they're clear, but they're still very effective.
Starting point is 00:02:21 And because you listen to Mind Pump, you actually get a little bit of a hookup, you get free shipping, free exchanges and returns. Just go to FelixGrayGlasses.com F-E-L-I-X-G-R-A-Y glasses.com forward slash Mind Pump. Then I talked about a man in England who got in trouble wearing a snake mask. And then we talked about the new South Park episode that offended every single person. I'm so offended. Then we got into answering the questions. Here's the first one.
Starting point is 00:02:47 This person wants to know what we think about controlling a deadlift back to the ground versus dropping it. What are the pros and cons? Next question. How do you tell the difference between being lazy and actually needing to take a day off? The next question. When should you cap off your caffeine intake? And the final question,
Starting point is 00:03:07 is following your passion, good or bad advice? Also this month, we took our two most popular workout programs, Maps and Obolic, a full-body, muscle-building, metabolism-boosting workout program. It's our most popular workout program. We took that and we combined it with the no BS 6-pack formula, which is an app building core training workout program. Both those programs combine normally around $170, but right now and only right now, you can get both of them combined.
Starting point is 00:03:40 It's a bundle for $59.95. That's $59.95. One time fee, lifetime access to both programs. Here's how you get access. Go to mapsoctober.com. That's the letter M-A-P-S-October.com. Did you know that there's a C in indicted? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:03 It's not indicted. Yeah, why is there a C in indicted. Yeah. It's not indicted. Yeah. Why is there a sea in indicted? I don't know, dude. What is this makes no sense? Why? Why? Why did?
Starting point is 00:04:13 Adam questions the English language. Why is there a sea there? I don't know. Does it have like some, they're being tricky. Because you're addicted. There's got to be a reason for it, right? It's gotta have some sort of history for me. Why is there a pee and teradactyl?
Starting point is 00:04:30 Ooh, teradont. Yeah. What? Teradactyl. Teradactyl. Why is there a pee? There. A.C.
Starting point is 00:04:38 Don't worry, Doug, we know that we're on. We know that the high tech isn't working over there. I like Doug, Doug gets a sign that he turns on to show us that we're on air. It's literally the same nightlife. It feels like kids have. Yeah, I feel like a kid in like a sophomore and high school made it in their class. Ha! Totally. Listen to this. Ha! It comes from the Latin word that means to proclaim. We pronounce it to pronounce it in dict because it originally spelling in English was,
Starting point is 00:05:04 or excuse me, we pronounce it in it in dict because it originally spelling in English was, or excuse me, we pronounce it in Dict because it's original spelling in English was ENDITE. Spelling that was used for 300 years before scholars decided to make it look more like it's Latin root word. Wow. I'm still confused. And now you know. And now you know. So you're saying that they said, hey, this word's too easy to spell Yes, let's make it difficult. Let's make it worse. That's what they did everything. Yeah, spell flam Flam that's a word. Is that really a P if it's a pH or something with a G like them? pH L E GM and is there any at the head Doug?
Starting point is 00:05:43 Yeah, flick them. Who's the best speller, Doug? Doug's the best speller. Yeah, I feel like we're third credit. He's like the last wall of defense before anything comes out of us. I have Doug's the best speller. Who's the worst speller? For sure me.
Starting point is 00:05:56 Are you? Yes. Probably true. I was talking about Texas. Were you insecure about that when you were a kid? That you were a bad speller? You know, That even a thing.
Starting point is 00:06:04 Speller. Nobody cares anymore. I think I was so bad at some of the things that I just, I didn't, I think I got over in securities really quick. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, why be insecure about this one thing? I suck at many things.
Starting point is 00:06:16 No, you don't. Yeah. You're good at just out with the art. I'm trying to remember, like I wasn't that bad. I wasn't like abnormally bad, like where I was like, you know, failing test, starting like that. I did well, I told you I was in advanced English.
Starting point is 00:06:32 I have no idea why. Because my teacher always told me that I was good at, like putting my thoughts down on paper, organizing them grammatically and stuff was not so good, but she appreciated that, so they put me in advanced English, but then I always Strong ideas are here. Yeah, I like I was put in I was put in ESL when I was a kid you guys know really yeah Because my parents are immigrants and I think when I was a kid I said a word because you know when you learn two languages as a kid Yeah, a little bit of accent. No, you mix. Yeah, you you mix it. Yeah, so, you know, spanglish, that's where spanglish is.
Starting point is 00:07:06 Yeah, so they heard me say once a word that was in Sicilian and the whole one. Put you in ESL, easiest, A, I've got my mind. Yeah. When I was, dude, when I was in, you guys have seen my handwriting, right? Yeah, it's like a doctor's handwriting. Yeah, you think you're a doctor. It's like, it looks like I'm writing with my feet.
Starting point is 00:07:28 It's so bad that at some point, I used to get hammered about my handwriting. Just blast every teacher. He's the hammering me all the time. I did it on purpose. No, so it made it hard for them to read. It's worse because I tried. I literally sat there and trod,
Starting point is 00:07:41 and it was just so bad that finally in high school a teacher gave up and they said this one you have to type everything. No, no, that's what they told me. Yeah, because remember I remember this at that back then it wasn't like everybody had computers back then. Oh, well you're old. Yeah, chiseled stone days, dude. No, old bros.
Starting point is 00:07:58 My bad. Justin, you and I are the same. I'm not your old me dude. Matters. Yeah. Anyway, okay. Well Justin was held back like four years I was still in great school. It's a big ass fourth grade
Starting point is 00:08:12 Dominated no the teacher Lurie gave up and said right Every letter in uppercase so if you ever watch me right every letter is uppercase because I always think you're yelling at me Yeah, exactly no, it's you're not yelling at me. No It's my country with this point because you can't I feel so much better now. I have no Always mad dude when he writes. Oh, yeah, I thought that was some blog thing So did you guys okay? What was your worst subject growing up? Like just you did if you did bad anything What was it? What was it? My worst subject? Yeah, I hated math, but I think that's because I didn't have good math teachers, but I really couldn't stand it.
Starting point is 00:08:48 Look at you, Joseph. Yeah, it was probably between math or chemistry for me. It was anything that I had to memorize everything. I sucked at memorizing things. As long as I learned, and I figured it out for myself, I did really well, but everything else, like I had. Did you ever get a deer or an F? Did you ever get a bag grade with that? I think a C was a little bit up.
Starting point is 00:09:10 Yeah, I got a D one time, and it was, I was out because I had my wisdom teeth removed, and then I had the flu, and I had, I was out for like a couple of weeks. Don't give me all your excuses. I was saying, what was the saying? I'm saying, you're this guy, I said, he's like defending his case back in fifth grade.
Starting point is 00:09:22 I said I had, I'm still salty about it. My teeth and this happened. It was rainy outside. I wanted to strangle this. This kid was, this kid was bullying me. Yeah, all these things happened to me. Come out with it. What was it with?
Starting point is 00:09:33 It was in, we did calls, which was like in chemistry, you had to do like this whole process. So it was chemistry. Yeah, but it was like in labs where you have to actually do all the lab work. And so like they wouldn't let me make up all the lab work. And so they gave me a deep. Okay.
Starting point is 00:09:48 So that was my background was chemistry. Was it really? Yeah, yeah, yeah, chemistry. I didn't like chemistry. I got a C in math geometry, I think it was. And it's because half the time I'd even show up. I just didn't show up and I would pass the test. And that was the, you know what's funny too, is I hate math.
Starting point is 00:10:02 And I have a son who's a math wizard. Oh, yeah, the kids gonna Probably he's in honors algebra two and as a sophomore. So he'll he'll finish high school calculus my kids are gonna teach me math Really? I'm sure of it. Yeah, well they learn it way earlier now, too You know personal training helped me with math a lot. I can count pretty good to 12 three sets You know you track the couple reps. I'd be pretty good with that. Yeah. My favorite class was cartooning. What about you, Doug? Can you remember all the way back then?
Starting point is 00:10:29 Huh? It's been a while. What, what, what, when did you get hit? Alchemy was this favorite class. When did you get hit with the ruler? Tell us. I didn't get hit with the ruler,
Starting point is 00:10:38 but they did have paddles back in the day that had big holes in them. Did you ever get paddles? I did not. Fortunately, I did not, but I knew people who did. Do you know why, do you guys know why they put the pad, the holes in them. Did you ever get paddled? I did not. Fortunately, I did not. But I knew people who did. Do you guys know why they put the holes in the paddles? Hearts more.
Starting point is 00:10:49 I guess you get more velocity? Yes. How crazy is that? The less wind resistance. Literally, they made objects to hit kids with. You're not even there pairing. Turn your ass into swish cheese. And someone's like, we got to make these things faster.
Starting point is 00:11:01 They would display it with pride at the front of the room. Yeah. It's like, okay, this is your sub-b-b-b-b-b-b. So, I believe with pride at the front of the room. Yeah. It's like, okay, this is your... Some people believe this is what's wrong with our country. Is that we got rid of this? Yeah. Bring back the balance. No, they say spare the rod, spoil the child.
Starting point is 00:11:13 Yeah. I definitely think if children were hard-core, beat more often, they'd be better off. Wait, wait, wait, wait, so you... Salad stuff. So you didn't have any bad grades, Doug? I actually did very well in school, especially high school. I did struggle actually in elementary school.
Starting point is 00:11:28 Math was my nemesis. Won't you chubby in high school? I mean, in high? No, elementary school, I was the chubbiest. I slimmed down as the years progressed, but I was still chubby. He was also, I know this because when Mara used to train Doug and we would talk about this kind of stuff,
Starting point is 00:11:44 he was scrappy. He used to fight, nobody messes with him. Which is not me now. Did you get a lot of fights? I did. Oh, you did. Yeah, yeah, in elementary school, I was a fighter. I got a lot of fights in elementary school.
Starting point is 00:11:57 Yeah, I would take Doug, a father child. I would take Doug over all you guys in a fight. Well, I had training, by the way. I had a six-year-old brother who would like to beat up on me. So, I learned how to fight, I learned how to fight to win. I feel like Doug's, Doug will fight to the death. I feel like 100%. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:12:15 Yeah, yeah. Feel all the dirty stuff. Dude, so, you know the supplement industry is one of my favorite things to study. Yes. And so I love looking at new emerging categories of supplements. Oh, is there a new thing coming out? There's an exploding category of supplements.
Starting point is 00:12:30 So, I've been into supplements for a long time, ever since I started working on this. And what? Exploding. So, there's like different categories. I remember when the pre-workout category was essentially invented and that exploded. I remember when marketing for protein powders
Starting point is 00:12:46 got really smart and they said, have it post workout and nighttime protein and all these intro workout supplements, all these categories. I'm gonna read to you names of just names of supplements. And then you guys, yes. What is in it? Yes, what the category of supplements it is.
Starting point is 00:13:04 It's in, that's growing. I like this game so much. So I'll start with the names that are less like telling and then we'll just go to the ones that are very. Okay. So, Raging Bull, so that's the name of one. Yeah, that's obvious. Are we guessing as you go through?
Starting point is 00:13:17 No, no, wait, these are all one category. Wait till I get done. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, these are all the same category for. Volcano. Okay. Yeah. High volume. Yeah, that's pretty obvious.
Starting point is 00:13:27 We're going. Okay. Max load. Ooh. That could be like your PR. These are all names of supplements. These are the days of the mother load. Wow.
Starting point is 00:13:36 That's another one. It's it's. Yeah. We're going to get better ready. Yeah. Seaman X. Now it's getting obvious. Max eject.
Starting point is 00:13:44 Yes. And here's getting obvious. Max eject. Yeah, I see. And here's another one. This is for real. It's the deal with it's suffering. I swear to God, you can lick this up. Max yummy coming. No.
Starting point is 00:13:54 No. No. Now are any of these done by a popular brand that any of us are familiar with? Some of them are brand. It's pretty and frothy latte. That you might notice. I can't look up the brands Yeah, but there's a category of supplements that is growing that is all about increasing
Starting point is 00:14:12 The amount of semen you produce that's literally the category of some demand there, huh apparently Like a load is it like five of them. Okay. Who's like measuring this? I mean, I'm not gonna lie. Don't you want to try it just a little bit? Well, well the ingredients that they see if it works, you know? What do you mean? I just wanna see if it works. What do you get test before and I, oh, you'll know, I can't do that.
Starting point is 00:14:32 I mean, come on, I'm pretty good. Come on, I know you can try it with me. Yeah, come on, guys. Yeah. You're an I'm super persuasive. Your wife buys them for you. I mean, I got you a supplement to try. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:43 No, so I look at the ingredients. Are you ready? I look at the ingredients, right? Apparently there's a demand for this, and got you a supplement to try. Yeah. No, so I look at the ingredients. How are you guys ready? I look at the ingredients, right? Apparently there's a demand for this, and I was reading up on this. I'm like, why is this a sublimit category? And they're saying it's because the, the prevalence of pornography men now are wanting,
Starting point is 00:14:58 you know, more, I guess production or whatever, it's becoming a thing. And it's a growing category. But I looked at the ingredients of all these supplements to see like where they put in these. Like what are they saying that's gonna make this? Right. And believe it or not, a lot of the ingredients are legit.
Starting point is 00:15:13 And so like for example, Toncat Ali, that's a product that has been around for long. People have used it for hundreds or maybe thousands of years. It does increase sperm quality, seem in volume, might increase testosterone, ashwagandhas in a lot of them, diaspartic acid is in a lot of them. So I mean, these are all like what used to be
Starting point is 00:15:34 in testosterone boosting categories, and they're just rebranding them as like, you know, load enhancers or whatever. You wanna call it load assault? I could have, you could have believed, you should see this. Oh, ball Yeah, I could Yeah, I could have believed he's Oh, ball refill. I wasn't It's just to see the pictures too on the on the bottles. I wonder can you see how much how much money is in it?
Starting point is 00:15:53 Is there a lot of money? Well, I mean, the song the bottles for you know 30 40 bucks. Yeah, so the margins are probably the same as they would be for I would I would have met I wonder if the margins are bigger because it's a newer normally that's how it is right normally until it gets flooded Yeah, right normally when if you're one of the early early adopters So I went on I started reading the reviews on some of these they're great They're so great. Yeah, my girlfriend. You know happy right? She really so satisfying Yeah, so happy, right? That's awesome. Is she really? So satisfying. Is she really happy? Come on.
Starting point is 00:16:28 I don't know about this. Anyway, finally. And more crazy news. Did you guys know that you could die from eating black licorice? No, well, yeah. Well, first of all, it's disgusting. Why the hell would anybody eat it?
Starting point is 00:16:41 But anyway, I like black licorice. Do you really? I do. So this was a report. So there was a man apparently that died from eating too much black licorice. Now you think to yourself, he must eat 15 pounds of the stuff. Right. In order to, you know, to die. Right. Well, they put out a, what is it?
Starting point is 00:16:59 Like a press release. And it says, if you're 40 years of age or older, eating two ounces of black licorice, that's not a lot. No, two ounces nothing. What is that? It's like five sticks or whatever. And it's got to be real black licorice, right? Eating two ounces of black licorice a day for at least two weeks. So consistently, could land you in the hospital with an irregular heart rhythm or arrhythmia, due to the presence of the compound glycerism. So apparently this, there it is right there. Sounds like a snoop dog.
Starting point is 00:17:33 It sounds like a snoop dog. Ingredient. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, glycerism. Yeah, glyceristic acid is what it does is it can change potassium levels in your blood and throw off your electrolytes. So there it is right there, a man died after eating a bag of black licorice. Dude, how about what?
Starting point is 00:17:53 Like, and they didn't know about this? Dude, I tell you what, dude, like, does that mean that those red vines will have like a label now on or warning, no, red vines don't have that? No, what do you mean, red vines do, they make a black licorice? Oh, well, are they called red vines, though? Yeah, it's the red vines is the brand that. No, what do you mean red vines do, they make a black licorice? Oh, well, are they called red vines though?
Starting point is 00:18:06 Yeah, it's the red vines is the brand. Okay, so they make black and they make the black licorice and they make the red licorice. So I can see dying and like drinking too much yagermeister because that's obvious. Well, what an embarrassing way to die. Like if you die of doing something too much, like at least make it just like.
Starting point is 00:18:22 Well, especially when it's not that much, I mean, there's probably a lot of people that eat a thing of licorice almost every day. I mean, that's like an atom. He's worrying right now. I'm normal feeling. No, you know those, you know those dubs that you get from Costco?
Starting point is 00:18:35 Like that's in office spaces, that's a very common thing. Like, Katrina used to buy that for her boss all the time. She'd bring that day. Well, good and plenty. Yeah, that's one of my favorite candies. You know what's funny about this? Is I think more people haven't died from this because literally Black Lakers has discussed
Starting point is 00:18:51 that this rhythm is gonna come after you. Does it taste good? No, it's an older thing and you get older, you like it. Really? I hated it growing up. Now I like it. Do you like pecan ice cream? I hated pecan ice cream when I was a kid.
Starting point is 00:19:02 Love it now. Pecan's good, dude. My daddy's weird stuff. My daddy used to eat weird stuff like that. My dad used to buy stuff. Your taste buds change when you get old, right, Doug? Yes, from experience. Draftically. Especially ever the decades.
Starting point is 00:19:13 Why don't you eat the word there's original over there? You know what's the other good? The other thing is your tolerance for hot sauce and stuff goes way high when you get older too. You ever seen Doug with the green sauce compared to us? He goes crazy. Yeah. It's like it's by age on how much you do. I'm going to use that. I'll put Tabasco on stuff now.
Starting point is 00:19:31 Actually, why? By the way, that's a secret. By the way, this is good for you Adam, because you're a new dad. If you want to keep your kid from eating your food, just tell him it's spicy. Yeah, put red pepper flakes. No, no, no, don't put anything on it. Just say it's spicy. That's the only thing that works. If you tell a little kid, you want some of that spicy, I don't want it. But anything else, they'll try.
Starting point is 00:19:48 It tastes gross. I want it. Spicy, they won't, they won't do it. So here's my question for you because you're a connoisseur on licorice. I know you like it a lot. Do you like? I don't know if I'm gonna sue it, but I'd go ahead.
Starting point is 00:19:58 What's better red vines or twizzlers? Oh, red vines are sure. Twizzlers, twizzlers are gross. Yeah, twizzlers are like fake cherry flavored like licorice. It's like I can't. I can't check it's red vines at all. Believe it's not butter or red vines are natural. Yeah, from the tree.
Starting point is 00:20:12 Yeah, they're red vines tree, right? That's where they come from, right? Yeah. No, red vines are kind of plasticky. That's not red vines, excuse me. Twizzlers. Yeah, twizzlers are. Yeah, is that still your favorite?
Starting point is 00:20:23 Yeah, I mean, I'm not, I'm not, I don't eat a lot of licorice. I was just saying that I know that's a thing that where people bring those big tubs, that's common. There was, I went through a phase where that was like in my house, you know, those just to cause, cause those things were like five bucks for that massive, you know what I'm talking about, right? Yeah, it's a fat free food, by the way.
Starting point is 00:20:39 Yeah, exactly, right? So it says on the phone the label. Oh yeah, so I think, I think at one point everybody had those in their house. I think what's his name, Dr. Integrity, didn't he recommend eating a post-workout? He recommends sour patch kids. Oh, my bad.
Starting point is 00:20:50 You still doing it? They all do. That's like the trendy thing to do in the last five years. I hate that. I hate when the fitness space comes up with ways to justify eating garbage. Are you gonna eat garbage? Just say it.
Starting point is 00:21:03 I'm eating garbage instead of being like, you know what actually, this to the sugar is good for recovery. So I like to eat candy, post work out. So I'm so jacked. Not cause it takes steroids. Dude, I got a great show for you guys. What is it?
Starting point is 00:21:15 And I totally stumbled across this cause I had signed up for, I don't know, epics or stars or one of those things like through Apple Plus. I was just like, ah, whatever, I got to get a new show somewhere. And this is not a new show. This is just a show that was out.
Starting point is 00:21:28 It's called Black Sales. It's like about the pirates and whatnot. And you know, it had had plot kind of like, um, well, Black beard and, you know, this whole story around that and all that. But then all of a sudden boom, there was just TNA everywhere. Whoa, it just hit us like, whoa, like this is like, this is totally almost like borderline like hardcore and it was just like a regular show.
Starting point is 00:21:51 What is it on? It's on, I think it's on stars, but you know, with your lady, you know, it's a good time. Yeah, what's up with pirates and that kind of stuff? It's a thing, I guess. Wasn't that you guys's favorite dirty movie when you guys were young? Yeah, it's very similar to that. Yes.
Starting point is 00:22:05 It's like no comment. Adam's face is like, I still watch that one. That DVD won all kinds of awards. You know that? Yeah. Yeah, come on. You don't know that. Everybody knows that. Everybody knows the most famous porn is pirates.
Starting point is 00:22:19 It's actually has plot there. I was actually, look at what I'm tied into it. Doug, look up top five porn porn DVDs and of all time or whatever I have to do this Don't act like it's not already and then we can cookie send you wonder why his computer freezes I don't he's already look at I got a question for you guys actually I was you know keeping up with our sponsors and stuff What this climate neutral mean?
Starting point is 00:22:46 Because your eGIS got a certification. So, Viori, for the listeners that don't know, they make a phlegia wear. We wear all-time great stuff. Does that mean they're like a net zero? It's like not too hot, like a car-reasy. That's enough to just... Yeah, I think that means you're like a net zero.
Starting point is 00:23:03 Coast carbon footprint. So, what does that mean? You're giving your shirt, you grow a tree, or something like that? Yeah, I think that means you're like a net zero carbon footprint. So what does that mean? So you're giving your shirt you grow a tree or something like that? Yeah, I think that's what it would something like that But that's not what they do that. They're not like that. Meer does that right that plants the tree every time like what is what is Viori do? I don't know I thought I first I was thinking it's like there just you know It doesn't identify with a climate. Yeah, I don't know. I'm gonna look it up right now I didn't even know it was a real thing, but that's what it sounds like.
Starting point is 00:23:25 Yeah, it says, it's a, okay, here's the, you get a better tax break for that, but you do. You already announced this climate neutral certification, and it says here, how do we get that? You're a leading performance apparel brand, a successfully achieved climate neutral certified status, by measuring your right, Adam,
Starting point is 00:23:43 measuring its 2019 Greenhouse Gas Emissions footprint, purchasing carbon credits to offset that footprint, and implementing plans to reduce emissions this year and beyond. You know, all joking aside, I like the fact that there seems to be a strong market demand now for environmentally conscious. Yes.
Starting point is 00:24:06 They make good clothes, they look good, those are all selling points, probably the more important selling points, right? Because otherwise people wouldn't buy their stuff. But it also makes you more competitive when you can show that you're environmentally conscious. Which, I tell you what, that wasn't a market 10 years ago. Nobody bought anything because it was... Well, no, it's become now like part of the business plan, right? Before you even decide you have a legitimate business,
Starting point is 00:24:30 they're already factoring that in, right there. Which is, this is not a bad thing. No, it's not at all. No. I mean, when I was a kid, McDonald's served stuff that lasted in the earth for 10,000 years. Remember, everything was in Styrofoam? Remember that when cheeseburgers and stuff on Styrofoam? Yeah. They put that away? They throw that away. They're for forever.
Starting point is 00:24:48 Speed of McDonald's. Did you see the article that Jackie shared with you at the rapper? So they had a Travis Scott burger. Now I forget who the other guy is. The famous Latin singer burger. McDonald's is partnering up with a lot of these famous people and then making like special
Starting point is 00:25:05 And it's like all they're doing is like say that he takes the pickles off the You just change one little modification smart marketing though. I mean it's working I mean people get all excited about it because it's a Travis Scott I've heard about it. It's gained a lot of traction I didn't know anything about it and my brother was the one actually told me about it like Like, this is a thing, like the Travis Scott burger. I'm like, what are you talking about? I would never write off McDonald's. They are absolutely brilliant with their marketing
Starting point is 00:25:31 and I will say this, still this day, I don't like their burgers, but their french fries blow, it's still to the state. You're not a big Mac or a quarter pound guy, no? I always hate it. It doesn't, to me, it doesn't taste like a burger. Oh, I didn't tell you guys. I had a walker to the day.
Starting point is 00:25:46 I had a burger king burger together. First time in like maybe 15 years. Did you really? Yeah. Did you have diarrhea? You know what? It didn't hit me as bad as I expected it to hit me. Not as bad.
Starting point is 00:25:56 Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying? It got me, you know what I'm saying? It's getting me for sure, but not as bad as I thought. But I also had one. I didn't like. Now does it remember, does it taste like you remember? No, it never does. That's what's interesting about those foods, right?
Starting point is 00:26:08 Well, I remember growing up and loving things like Taco Bell, I mean, I ate fast food all the time growing up. And once you've not had it for a decade or more, and then you go back, I've done that with a couple of fast food chains where it's been like, oh, you know what, it's been so long. Let's just try. I used to love this as a kid.
Starting point is 00:26:24 I remember this was called a while back, at least like five, 10 years ago. I hadn't had talk about since I was a kid. And I thought, oh, you know, I talk about what's my favorite as a kid. Mexican pizzas and whatever that is. Like, they just took two cultures and combined it. Mexican pizza.
Starting point is 00:26:41 It was brilliant, by the way. And I love that as a kid together. Oh, I had it. I had it not that well was years ago But I had it and after I had not had it for like a decade and it just it just tore me up It didn't taste good going down. It's like they almost felt it's a state of mind where you in to go to burger King Desperate desperate. Yeah, we had we were driving I don't remember where we were driving from somewhere had an eight I didn't eat breakfast
Starting point is 00:27:04 I hadn't eaten from the day before, Max was like an irritable in the car, it was just like I need to eat, like, and we still had like a, you know, three hour drive ahead of us and traffic, and I'm like, like, just give me something, and it was like, after it was like late, right? So there wasn't a lot of options, you know,
Starting point is 00:27:20 when you're, when you're trying to look for food at 10 o'clock at night, there's not a lot of like, and on the road So I just I told you try broke down. So listen, I'm pulling in. I just want to get like a burger a whopper, right? Get a simple burger I just I committed to whatever the next the next exit if I had to pick one of the big Like fast food restaurant chain burgers Carl's doing your still wins. Yeah, in my opinion now just just in and out and five guys falling that category
Starting point is 00:27:44 I don't I don't count them in that because I don't know why I don't. Yeah, no, they should. They should be right. Yeah, I feel like they're different. Yeah, they crush them. They have the best burgers. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:27:54 And there's the ones that I've never stopped eating, right? So five guys and, and in and out has been a part of my life forever. Well, I didn't really eat. I'm trying to think I don't have in and out until much later. Like I said, a little, as a kid, I don't think it was around here. I think it's because they're more expensive if you're something.
Starting point is 00:28:09 I don't know. Yeah, I had, I had my own. What it is? Maybe. Maybe you feel, there's like this like, I don't know, they have that on them. I, you kind of feel like the quality's better, but I doubt it. I just, I don't remember them being a lot, a lot of them around. No, there wasn't.
Starting point is 00:28:21 Yeah. No, there wasn't. You know, it's funny yesterday, I was, out my son and he says, you know what? He goes, I've never had Jack in the box, Carl's junior, or Taco Bell. My kids never had either. Wow, really? Never. Yeah. Because we don't eat it. We don't. We just don't do it. That's awesome. They've had McDonald's chicken nuggets because when they were little and their grandma was still around, she would take them to get nuggets sometimes. But they'd never had any of that stuff. So I'm almost thinking, because my son's 15, right?
Starting point is 00:28:48 So I'm almost thinking like it would be kind of fun to do like a little field trip and have them, you know, try these things. Try these things. In the mini-man just, yeah. Huge, you dad's favorite things. Yeah, you're the kid, you're all young. You know?
Starting point is 00:29:01 Yeah, because you a tour. Yeah, when I was a kid, my jam was the double-quarter pounder with cheese. Yeah, McDonald's, that was my favorite. when I was a kid, my jam was the double quarter pounder with cheese. McDonald's, that was my favorite. Justin, you brought up shows I got one for you. And I really, I really want you to watch this. I'm just, I have to do a sports.
Starting point is 00:29:13 Yes, it does. I'm already, so net, you know, every once in a while, Netflix does something in that I'm like impressed with. Like they've done a really good job of like looking at other streaming services and going like, okay, what can we do that's competitive with that? I pay for ESPN Plus, which has got all the cool 30 for 30 and E60, which are I love like good sports documentary shows like that are short clips on, you know, some coach or an athlete that I'm unaware of
Starting point is 00:29:45 and they tell the whole backstory. And they do just such a good job. And so Netflix came out with their rival show to that and it's called the playbook. And it's like, they take these coaches that I mean, maybe I'm familiar with them, but I don't know their whole backstory and really all their accolades.
Starting point is 00:30:04 And they're talking to the top of the top and whatever sport and all over the world. So soccer, volleyball, I mean, tennis, and so there's a lot of these coaches I'm not aware of that are just super bad. And hearing their story, what has made them great is phenomenal.
Starting point is 00:30:23 So they talk about their coaching techniques and stuff. Yeah, and like, yeah, so you will appreciate that. It's less about the game. It's more about their leadership qualities that turn them into great. Like for example, there's a coach and I'm sure people that are into the sport will make fun of me for not knowing the name, but Serena Williams' coach, his backstory is like really interesting. He was a kid who was, he, and he talks about like one of his like one of his points is that, you know, making
Starting point is 00:30:51 your greatest weakness into one of your greatest strengths, which I talk about, I say that all the time, right? He's still your quote. I did. The time I felt when I was watching him, but he's older than me. So obviously he had it first. So he was, as a kid, was like unbelievably shy. Like he, he wasn't, they put him in therapy for a year and for one day a week every, every, every, so 52 right sessions, never set a word for a year. For a whole year sitting in therapy. And that, the reason why they had him in therapy
Starting point is 00:31:18 was because he wouldn't talk to other kids. He was really insecure and shy. But during that entire time of growing up, it, because he was scared to say anything you're talking to, he like analyzed people's behaviors, their way, their facial expressions, the way they walk, their posture, the way they move, and just became like this, this brilliant. Interesting. And then he also loved tennis, and he was a good tennis player, but never became great, but could
Starting point is 00:31:42 like really read their body language. And if they were scared, they were nervous, they were playing timid, they were playing too aggrette. He got so, so good at that. That's, that carried over into him being this interesting. That's him right there. Yes, that's him. How do you say his last name?
Starting point is 00:31:59 Yeah. Moratoglu. Moratoglu, peraptopatric, that does sound interesting. It's really interesting. So, okay. All, you know, I, that does sound interesting. It's really interesting. So, okay, I know I joke around about not being in the sports, which is true, I really don't care too much, but as an early trainer and then manager, there was a coach, not because of their watching sports,
Starting point is 00:32:18 but rather because of the books that they wrote that had a huge influence on me, Vince Lombardi. You ever read his, how he would coach and some of his, there's some quotes that. That is amazing. That you don't, that you are familiar with, but you don't realize they came from Vince Lombardi. For example, like, it's not whether you get knocked down,
Starting point is 00:32:34 it's whether you get up, that's Vince Lombardi. You know, winning isn't everything, it's the only thing, right? That's also. We call it up down to Lombardi's. Really? Yeah. Yeah, so, and so I, he actually had a huge impact on me as a manager Yeah, but not because of football but rather because of what he wrote Which you know really did resonate with me. Oh, I think that's what made me so passionate about like I when I was first getting into training
Starting point is 00:32:57 I was a trainer for only about a year before I moved into management and leadership and I fell in love with The leadership aspect of trainers more than I ever did being a trainer Like being a trainer was cool and fun But I really enjoyed leading a team like and I think that comes from the sport aspect of like coaching and leading and You know, it's there you getting a bunch of players that there's another one on a soccer coach that is like world renowned That I don't remember his name favorite sport Yeah, and you know he he went out and got a bunch of no-name player on a soccer coach that is like world renowned that I don't remember his name. Justin's favorite sport. Yeah. And, you know, he, he went out and got a bunch of no name player and he's like, I would
Starting point is 00:33:29 rather go get a bunch of no name players that have specific characteristics and qualities that build that would build this bond within with each other opposed to going out and getting five of the most talented players in the world. And like he proved that method to be extremely successful. And most really good leaders know that, right? Like I'd much rather have a team of people that are bought into the system, bought into us together as a group versus talented individuals.
Starting point is 00:33:59 And the extreme of that is money ball. Right, yeah, no. Which is like, yeah, but... Which actually have issues with mainly because of the, it sort of takes away a little bit of the team bonding unity, like loyalty aspect to things, but it does make sense in terms of, you know, analyzing everybody in terms of stats
Starting point is 00:34:20 and really, you know, going for those small plays that end up getting you where you want to get all the can. But I actually disagree with that. I think what ends up happening when you do that is you get, I mean, imagine money, like money ball, which I love that story too. You get these guys, you know, Billy being gets all these players who nobody cared about. Yeah. And they put them all on a team.
Starting point is 00:34:41 So they all, it immediately have a chip on their shoulder of kind of being the leftovers or nobody cares about or didn't think of didn't scout them. Didn't think they were great players and put all those guys in one group and I bet you money they all come together. They come together and are like, you know, and they all play with that similar chip. Yeah. So they do, but then they also get traded right away. Well, yeah, we which is for the fans. I guess my point is for the fans it sucks. Yeah, because there's a part of watching sports too, like you get attached to these players and you really want to see them in their success.
Starting point is 00:35:13 And then they leave and it's like, wow, I still want them to succeed, but it's like, I still have this loyalty to the team. So I don't know, I'm going to talk about it. Well, that I understand, because you're right, because that was their business model. Their business model was get all these players for cheap, take them far into playoff.
Starting point is 00:35:30 The bash brothers would have never existed. Which would have destroyed me as a human being. It's Mark McGuire and Jose Kinsek. Oh, good, good, good. Sometimes, I remember. I remember. Sometimes I remember something. Hey, do you guys want to hear something crazy?
Starting point is 00:35:43 So they are researching right now. They did a study with animals on THC and COVID Really? Yeah, they found so they did an animal. They did it with rats and they the survival weight rate went through the roof When they gave the rats with COVID THC versus the control group, which was rats who just really just. Was it really just a scientist getting high and then it was like, I'm just gonna blow this on. No, no, no, they gave it to me. And they say the reason why it works is because of the way that T.H.C.
Starting point is 00:36:14 and other cannabinoids tamp down the immune response. Because one of the ways that COVID kills people is you get this run away inflammatory immune response where your body starts attacking itself. Yeah. And so now they're funding research on THC for COVID specifically. Isn't that wild? It's so crazy. It's so crazy.
Starting point is 00:36:33 All the marijuana companies love that. Oh yeah, dude. It was this drug that was so illegal for so long and now they're like, oh, it can potentially help with cancer. Oh, it can help with this disease that's causing this pandemic. I don't know, what I will tell you is I am sold on the whole CBN kick that you were on for.
Starting point is 00:36:48 Oh my god. It puts you to, wait, yesterday I saw, didn't you do it combination with the blue blockers? Yes. Okay, so that is the move, right? Like, so putting the, putting the blue blocker glasses on, like, you know, I talk about trying to be consistent with that at night when the sun goes down and then adding in the Ned sleep. Oh. Oh. That's stuff. Some of the best sleep on that. Okay, the, the, the Ned sleep. Oh.
Starting point is 00:37:05 Oh. That's stuff. Some of the best sleep. Okay, so let me ask you guys this. So now I've used it now, at least 10 times. I'd say at least 10 nights, I've used it. And for sure, this is definitely a side effect of the sleep. I sleep, I'll go good.
Starting point is 00:37:20 I wake up rest that I don't wake up groggy. It's very, very effective. In fact, if I take it and don't go to sleep, I can feel like, oh, I need to go to sleep right now. I get vivid dreams. Like I get really, really good, strong vivid dreams. Have you guys noticed that? I had not known if I get that from that.
Starting point is 00:37:36 Yeah, I'm just pretty much darkness. Really? It's just all black. Oh, man. It's like the inside of you. Yes. I also smoke a lot at night. So that always gets rid of the dreams, right?
Starting point is 00:37:48 Dude, I had the weirdest dream last night that we murdered someone and hid the body. I don't know. I don't understand it. You ever have a dream where you're like, why would I dream this? We murdered someone? We lived in Vegas. We hid the body. You got to, next time you have a dream,
Starting point is 00:38:05 they got to message me. I'll look it up in the dream book and tell you what it is. I don't know what it was, but we hid the body in the foundation of a property. And then we bought the property. That way nobody would have find it. And here's the weird thing. I know, dude.
Starting point is 00:38:16 I woke up. You ever do this? You wake up in the middle of the night through the dream? You're not sure if you did it or not. Yes, dude. And I'm literally, I'm literally sitting there and I'm thinking to myself,
Starting point is 00:38:25 like, how am I gonna tell Jessica what happened? Like, this is terrible. I can't believe, and I'm like, oh, it didn't happen. Oh, my God, I feel it, and I go back to sleep, right back into the dream, right back into the dream. I'm so, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so,
Starting point is 00:38:42 I'm so, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so, I'm using it nightly to see if it wears off. Like, do I start to get, you know, used to it or whatever, but so far, if I take that. I'm still new, so maybe, you know, the next few times, I'll get to the next three weeks. I also know some big difference too. I don't know if you guys mess with the blue blocker glasses on the nighttime ones versus the daytime ones. I can wear it so like.
Starting point is 00:38:58 The nighttime ones will make you drowsy. Right. If I, like sometimes I need to stay awake at night, and I'm like studying or whatever and I'll be all aware of the daytime ones even though it's nighttime because I'm not trying to fall asleep and it takes away the strain on my eyes. I still, when I decide to take them off and go to bed,
Starting point is 00:39:15 I can still fall asleep relatively quick. The actual nighttime ones, if I once I put them on, like an hour later, I'll try. If I'm gonna watch a movie that's like longer than an hour or something, I don't, I'll tell you. If I'm gonna watch a movie that's like longer than an hour something, I don't, I have to switch out, I have to wear the daytime ones and then the night time ones about 30 minutes before I wanna go to bed
Starting point is 00:39:32 because I won't be able to finish the movie. Yeah. I start to find myself getting, I feel like so chubby. I'd never thought I'd be this guy. What do you mean? I just wear in the blue blocker glasses and then I got a salt lamp, you know, Himalayan salt lamps.
Starting point is 00:39:43 I'm stupid. Like it's ever ever like it totally works No, I'm not gonna stop are you staging now exactly? That's like that's the next step. It's because it no It's when you get older all said you appreciate sleep on a home of oh, yeah, when you're a kid you think you're about it Yeah, when you're younger you're you think exactly it's a broad got so much good sleep I like to stay up all night. That's what I do. No, but I mean, you know what it is?
Starting point is 00:40:08 Okay, this is the big thing. I think when you get older, you start to put aside. Like, yes, you definitely can make fun of yourself about using these things, but you're open-minded. If it works, it works. Yeah, that's the bottom line. Now that's it, yeah, that's my measure. Because I remember we went to paleo effects,
Starting point is 00:40:24 like three, four years ago, the first time, and we saw people wearing blue you know blue blockers That's our little ridiculous though like I you know I remember that everybody was wearing the toe shoes. I do it I do it when I know I'm gonna be on a computer a lot right? So if it's a day that I know I'm gonna be in the middle of the day if I'm gonna be working on it on a computer or my phone all day long You'll catch me wearing wearing them in the middle of the day or I use them at nighttime when I'm trying to prepare for sleep. Those are the two places I find the most like wearing them around like a convention where I'd be up all day anyways, and I'm like, that to me is still orange all day. That to me is, yeah, that to me is, yeah, that's more to show
Starting point is 00:40:57 everybody. Yeah, that to me is still ridiculous. It's just like it just doesn't add as much value to me. Yeah, to be wearing it. Oh, dude, I read some funny news today. This is hilarious. So a man in England got in trouble because of the mask he was wearing. So he gets on a bus. Oh, I can't wait. He gets on a transit bus.
Starting point is 00:41:15 And it looked like he was wearing like a snake skin scarf or something like that as a mask. And people until it started to move, he actually had his pet snake wrap around his face and that's what he was using as a mask. And people until it started to move, he actually had his pet snake wrap around his face and that's what he was using as his mask. For real? Yes, dude. What the?
Starting point is 00:41:32 Genius. So you got in trouble for it, because apparently you can't use an actual snake. You can't use a snake? Yeah. Probably the same effect. A lot of places won't even let you, like so I was at in and out not that long ago
Starting point is 00:41:44 and you're just all kinds of fast food. It sounds like you're right, all right. Jesus, Shadow. So these are different times. It's like a few weeks in between. One was breakfast, one was lunch. Yeah. And we, I was watching all the people come in and out, right?
Starting point is 00:41:59 And this couple came in and they didn't have a mask. And so they did the whole, like, shirt up, put your shirt in, they won't serve you. So there's a lot of places. This is the difference. I know. Yeah, but they, they, they, they, they, they've been told that if you're not wearing the, and there's, they have, they, and you'll see it like on the bus, there's like examples.
Starting point is 00:42:17 It has to be like one of these massive, it's not that doesn't count. Really? Yeah. So, and a lot of the, a lot. Because cloth masks are accepted everywhere. I know. I know. There's the guy with the snake look at that It's like a huge ass like boa constrictor I did not like suffocate him like a here's what I think I think it helps a social distancing
Starting point is 00:42:36 That's the most effective thing you can do is stand the hell away. Oh my god speaking of that we finally watched together the The freaking what you call it, cartoon. Like, South Park, thank you. Oh, wow. That was so good. They swung so hard on that one. They did. I appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:42:53 They attempted to offend everybody. I wasn't, you know what, as a kid, I didn't actually watch a lot of South Park. I liked it as I got older. I got older, I was like, oh, dude, they're so good. I just love their social commentary, and I would watch it just, if there was something happening in the news where I knew, dude, this, they're so good. I just love their social commentary. And I would watch it just,
Starting point is 00:43:05 if there was something happening in the news where I knew, like, South Park is gonna destroy this. Like, I would watch then, but I wasn't like, I don't know, it was kind of obnoxious, like, after a while, because you knew that there's gonna shit on everything, you know? Oh, but I, okay, so a little spoiler alert, I'll just give one part away, but I was like,
Starting point is 00:43:21 I can't believe they showed the dude, the cartoon guy banging a bag. Mickey Mouse, that's all I'm gonna say. Mickey Mouse from Disney and one of the characters banging a bag. Yeah, I don't understand how they got away with that. I have no idea. They got a whole ton of lawyers, I'm sure, before they really said. Yeah, I mean, how can I, yeah. Don't they get sued by the Mormon church at one point or something like that? No, I think the Mormons have been cool with them, I think. Yeah, I think it's... Or was it Scientology? It is Scientology. It's a very litigious.
Starting point is 00:43:48 Yeah, really? Yes, really? Bro, you'll get sued by Scientology faster than I was. Very litigious. More than CrossFit? It's probably equal. Well, they're both religions, so I guess. Yeah, they got cool aid, so yeah. Shhh! Shhh!
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Starting point is 00:44:45 Yeah, it's so good. Oh, day. The same. Yeah, I'd add that for the bingo. The same thing that I would say about any exercise, there's pluses of minuses to either one, right? So when you look at like an Olympic lifter and they do their lifts and they explode,
Starting point is 00:45:00 swing the weight up at the top, whether it's a snatch or a clean or whatever, and they drop the weight, what they're trying to do is they're trying to work on their explosive power. They're not really interested in super fatiguing the muscles. They don't really care too much about body building. It's about improving their performance. It's less risky. It's less risky. So dead lifting up and then dropping the weight, you'll still build strength. You're going to get a little bit less muscle growth, just like you would. And then you're going to get a little bit less muscle growth.
Starting point is 00:45:17 And then you're going to get a little bit less muscle growth. And then you're going to get a little bit less muscle growth. And then you're going to get a little bit less muscle growth. And then you're going to get a little bit less muscle growth. improving their performance. It's less risky. It's less risky. So deadlifting up and then dropping the weight, you'll still build strength. You're going to get a little bit less muscle growth, just like you would from, you know, not doing the negative portion of any rep. I'm guilty of dropping a deadlift sometimes. I'm probably the biggest offender here. Well, you like the Olympic lift. Well, yeah, because in mainly like that was how I learned, you know, power cleans and everything else and that's how I would dead left was just to pick up the weight and then drop it because, you know, that risk factor is always something to consider. But I liked, you know, really pursuing more of that initial power and that that explosive output that I could provide. Well, what you should do is you obviously should not use the same weight,
Starting point is 00:46:05 right? So I run, I do this like in phases like we do in any of our programs. So if I have been, you know, lifting really heavy deadlifts and I've been dropping, dropping the weight for some time, like then I'll switch it up and reduce the weight to 50% and then really control the negative. So I just, it's a, I think, I think for the average person, right, somebody who is just trying to be healthy, strong, build a good physique, lose body, fat, build muscles. Just overall. Overall, this belongs in your routine.
Starting point is 00:46:35 You should absolutely face. This is how you should mostly deadlift. Yeah, you should run a phase where you do a very controlled negative and let the set the weight down. At least a phase, if you don't always do it that way, right? Because there's not tremendous value for somebody to be dropping and slamming the weight, especially if you're not competing.
Starting point is 00:46:54 If you're not competing to hit a specific PR. Well, even in powerlifting, if you don't bring the weight down, you get disqualified. You're not allowed to drop the weight. Yeah, but you can drop it in your hands, right? You can let the weight fall. You don't resist the weight down. Oh, I know what you mean. You can hold allowed to drop the way. Yeah, but you can drop it in your hands, right? You can let the weight fall. You don't resist the way down. Oh, I know what you mean.
Starting point is 00:47:07 You can hold the weight and go down with it. Yeah, yeah. I mean, you still, quickly. Yeah, you're still kind of dropping it, right? Sure, sure. I mean, this is what this person's asking to me is like resisting it on the way down. Yeah, really slowing it.
Starting point is 00:47:20 Like a four second negative. Or, yeah. I'll do a four second negative on a deadlift sometimes just to change up my training. It's much more bodybuilding that way. That's tearing me up, man. It will get you. It will get you.
Starting point is 00:47:31 It is, I'll give you an example. I will relatively control the deadlift up into going up to about 400 pounds. After 400 pounds, I tend to drop. I don't control a five plate deadlift. The five plate deadlift for me. So just to give you an example, that's a hundred pound difference. There's a big difference between dropping the weight and controlling it.
Starting point is 00:47:50 Which one is going to build more muscle? If I had to pick one, it's obviously going to be controlling. But if you do both and do a mry, you're probably going to get better results. But I don't recommend dropping anything or going fast on anything on the descent, unless you're an Olympic lifter advanced. Otherwise, it's not really recommended. Or you're just having fun because it's pretty liberating. Yeah, but I mean if you watch like a look it's pretty telling right? If you watch a here's something you could do go on YouTube and watch Olympic lifters barbell squat and then watch power lifters or body
Starting point is 00:48:22 builders barbell squat. Yeah. Very different. Very different. Besides the bar placement, you know, Olympic lifters like to have a high bar and much more upright posture, they drop fast. They drop fast. They drop fast. They bounce back up. They use that to elastic energy. And that requires way more skill.
Starting point is 00:48:38 Yeah. Way better control and way better stability. The average person drops down. I have a risk with that. You drop down fast in a squat, the average person, you are going to injure yourself. That's not something I would recommend to anybody. Which again, building more muscle, overall,
Starting point is 00:48:52 always control the negative. The negative portion of a rep is just as important as the positive. Next question is from littlelish. How do you tell the difference between being lazy and actually needing to take a day off? Oh, I like this question because I know we talk a lot on here about like, you know, taking days off and recovering and rest and it's, you know, and I'm always reminded that, you know, our show is geared
Starting point is 00:49:19 more towards, you know, your average person, right? Like that's just wanting to be healthy and fit and not like your super advanced lifter. I mean, there's obviously a portion of people that listen to this show that would consider themselves advanced lifters and they lift consistently five to seven days a week, year in, year out. But that percentage is much smaller than the rest of the population that's listening, including like our clientele.
Starting point is 00:49:42 Rarely ever, okay. Did I have to tell clients of mine to take days off? Most clients, it was more about trying to keep them consistent and consistently coming in and staying consistent for months and years. That, so the only time I think that it's really necessary is when I'm talking to somebody who is extremely finate. I mean, somebody in this room, right?
Starting point is 00:50:07 So if I was talking to Sal or Justin, this conversation is like, hey, maybe you need to deload a little bit or maybe you need to back off. Like, have you been going really heavy for really long and have you taken a day off for two in a while? Like, because they're, they're fanatical about training. But everybody else, you know, most people haven't been that consistent for that long that it's necessary for them to take a day off. Yeah, you're probably lazy. I mean, it's true. Yeah, more times than not, it's probably you're just being lazy. Is your body hurting? Do you have inflammation? joint pain? Is your sleep being interrupted? Are you noticing issues with cold and hot tolerance? Are you noticing
Starting point is 00:50:47 health issues? And you probably need some time off. Otherwise, if you're just sitting there and you're thinking yourself, oh man, I got to work out, but I don't really feel like it. Am I being lazy? Yeah, you're probably being lazy, in which case just get up and well I usually gauge that to like when I start going into it and you know like I start working out and I can feel like my whole body is just like pretty much not providing any strength or you know I just feel totally like I don't have it that day like I'll all either stop after I've gone halfway through which rarely happens because for the most part, if I'm trying to consistently keep my body working out,
Starting point is 00:51:30 you know, on a daily basis, I can fluctuate my intensity and I could actually provide recovery through that. And so for me to just, you know, take an entire day off and rest, to me, like I don't really do that anymore. We talked, remember we talked with Dr. Andy Gap went about this, like maybe two or three years ago and he even brings up the
Starting point is 00:51:51 point that there's value in training when you maybe should even take the day off sometimes, right? Like when you didn't get great sleep and when you are a little stressed occasionally doing that, it's the people that are gross offenders that really need to take that time off. Like if it's you are consistently lifting and you're not getting good sleep, or you're consistently, intensely driving your workouts to where you are so sore,
Starting point is 00:52:16 the occasional of doing that or intermittently doing that actually has some value. I mean, that's, you're getting your body to adapt in a very stressful situation. I feel like you should know. I mean, honestly, I think if you're the kind of person that you tend to overdo things, you tend to be type A, you tend to really be consistent all the time, then you might need to day off. Everybody else tends to just be, I don't feel like it, you know, I don't feel like doing it. I'm maybe being a little lazy. That's the vast majority of people.
Starting point is 00:52:44 Honestly, if you're asking yourself this question, if there's 10 people asking me this question, nine of them are being lazy, one of them actually needs a day off. Right, and to Justin's point, I think is, you know, why? Because even that person, that one person that technically could take the day off,
Starting point is 00:53:00 they also could go to the gym and just modify intensity. That's the best way to do it. Where's the go light, go easy, stretch, focus on mobility, focus on, there's always something that you could do, you know, whether it's restorative or it's just a totally different mentality you're bringing in to the gym or even at your house. Like you could be doing something active
Starting point is 00:53:17 that's, you know, provides recovery versus, you know, just trying to, you know, optimize my body by lifting weights. Next question is from ConnorNagle07. When should you cap off your caffeine consumption and how do energy drinks contrast with pre-workout? Okay, so what does it mean by contrast with pre-workout? I think just the difference between the two.
Starting point is 00:53:41 Pre-workout and energy drinks. The same difference. Yeah, let's start with the first part. So how do you know when you should cap off your caffeine intake? When the side effects of caffeine start to become a little pronounced. Okay, so when you notice that your anxiety is a little high, your jittery, you start to get really strong crashes.
Starting point is 00:54:01 So you have your caffeine, you feel great. Good headaches. Then it hits, it drops off, and all of a sudden you feel super unmotivated and you're feigning for more caffeine, heart arrhythmia, excessive palm sweating, sleep issues. I noticed TMJ issues as well. So yeah, I'm really grinding my teeth
Starting point is 00:54:23 or I can just feel that tension start to kind of make its way from my jaw down to my neck even. Yeah, and this is very individual. Like people have different tolerances to caffeine. Their bodies metabolize it differently. Like my tolerance for caffeine is a lot lower than, say, atoms and especially justines, right? These guys can drink way more caffeine than I can and be fine. And for me, if I tried to match them, I would feel terrible. I might even get nauseous or sick.
Starting point is 00:54:56 So you got to kind of feel this out for yourself. So I've noticed for me, anywhere between 250 to 400 milligrams in a day is about my peak. Well, don't you think that this is really, I mean, this is really hard for a lot of people to be able, I mean, you list it off a bunch of potential side effects, but the truth is most people won't notice those things because they'll have gradually moved their way up
Starting point is 00:55:18 and their body will have adapted to that new milligram amount that they're now consuming. Yeah, but the side effects tend to grow, you know, that's what I thought about that for. Sure, they do, but they grow it such a slow pace in relation to the extra dosage of caffeine that they may not really notice those things. And they're paying attention to when they feel better, which is when they're getting the caffeine.
Starting point is 00:55:39 Right. And so for me, I've just decided that, you know, once I get to a point where I'm having more than two or three cups of coffee, slash energy drinks, slash pre workout in a day, that's a lot. That's a lot, and I don't ever wanna be a slave to anything. Even if I'm not getting crazy adverse effects,
Starting point is 00:56:00 even if I'm not getting TMJ, I'm not losing sleep at night, I just don't, I mean, and here's, for financial reasons, like why spend the money on that much caffeine when I could cut it in half just by winging myself off for a week or two and then going back on and then now it affects me like it's brand new again. So, make no mistake caffeine is a powerful drug.
Starting point is 00:56:22 For all intents and purposes, you're looking at a substance that you build a tolerance to. It's got a very powerful, addictive qualities for people who are like, yeah, right, caffeine is addictive. Okay. If you drink coffee every day, stop drinking it and see how you feel. You get very strong physiological, negative effects. You get those, you know, effects of where your body needs it, it fiends for it. It might take you a week or two weeks to start to feel normal. Overdose on caffeine is very easy.
Starting point is 00:56:53 I mean, very, very easy. 200 milligrams might be a normal dose for someone. Give them 1,000 milligrams and they might die, literally. That's the, in fact, I think a good percentage of them would probably die from a thousand milligrams. So it's a very powerful drug. It's just one of those drugs in society that's super accepted. So we tend to, we don't treat it like a drug because...
Starting point is 00:57:14 Anything that makes you productive is somewhat, you know, accepted. Well, wasn't it funny though, that's how it is. It's like, I think of it like alcohol or like smoking weed or like anything else. It is, it is. And so anytime any of those things creep into my life where I feel like, okay,
Starting point is 00:57:28 it's taking more control of me than I have control of it, that's my signal to come off. All right, well, here's some hard recommendation. Here's some specifics, right? So I used to tell my clients, I used to tell my clients, don't have any caffeine after about 3 p.m. Because for most people, even if you go to sleep, if they test you and negatively affects your sleep, if you drink it past 3 p.m. Because for most people, even if you go to sleep,
Starting point is 00:57:45 if they test you, it negatively affects your sleep if you drink it past 3 p.m. So that was a good control for people. They would drink coffee and then after 3 p.m. they would cut it off. If you find yourself needing coffee all day, like, okay, I needed the morning to get started. Now I need it at lunch time to keep going.
Starting point is 00:58:02 Now I need it again. Now I need it because I'm gonna go home and be around the kids and I need more caffeine. Then you probably need to wean yourself off. And here's the wonderful thing. If you wean yourself off and reintroduce it, lower doses now have an incredibly awesome effect on your body.
Starting point is 00:58:17 Yeah, I've also found that really focusing on hydration and drinking more water. It's helped me to, in that transitionary period too, because I would get really bad headaches if I was trying to lower the amount of caffeine because I would get myself up to a ridiculous amount and then try and pull myself back. And so that really helped in terms of providing more
Starting point is 00:58:38 of that energy that lasts throughout the day too, so I wasn't going for that second, third cup. I feel like you have to find your individual threshold on what amount, what dose is it difficult for you to come off of? And I treat, like I said, marijuana, cradome, I use cradome every now and then, like, I have all these things that I've allowed
Starting point is 00:58:55 that are considered would fall in that class of drugs, right, even though I know cradome's like an herb. But if it's something that the body can become addicted to, whatever amount is difficult for me to say, I don't want to have it for two or three days in a row, that's my amount. That's my threshold. Somebody might be able to go all the way up to four, 600 milligrams of caffeine in a day and then go to zero for a week and not have any side effects. If that's it, then maybe that's you. Maybe you're fine with that. But other people like Sal gets up to 250 milligrams of caffeine and then he goes to zero and he's got
Starting point is 00:59:28 headaches and he's got problems with it. Like that's then my thresholds before that. Yeah, it takes a lot of self-awareness, doesn't it? Right. You'll get paid attention. You took me a long time to figure that out. I mean, I would take energy drinks and supplements and a fedra that took me the day like it was like it was water, took me a long time to kind of figure this out. Now the difference between energy drinks and pre-workouts, energy drinks, lots of caffeine, pre-workouts, also lots of caffeine. Pre-workouts tend to have other compounds
Starting point is 00:59:56 that have performance enhancing or muscle building type properties. So sometimes a pre-workout will contain creatine or they'll have beta-alonine Or they'll have alpha-GPC or other compounds that help with specifically athletic performance So like like legions pre-workout pulse for example. It's got caffeine So it's got the same amount of caffeine or you may find in a really really strong energy drink But then it has all those other compounds that have muscle building or performance-enhancing
Starting point is 01:00:27 type benefit. The truth is, though, what you feel is the caffeine. Most people, when you talk about pre workouts and energy drinks, the thing that has all this list of all these crazy positive things, they throw in there so they can probably sell it for more. At the end of the day, the thing that you like the most. Yeah, you take the cat, although I will say this,
Starting point is 01:00:43 alpha GPC beta-align, somebody who doesn't take stimulants, so somebody who doesn't ever take caffeine, they'll feel that, they'll feel more focused, and studies will support this and prove this, but if you're used to stimulants, it's the stimulant you want. That's what it is. Next question is from Warrior Monk Fitness, is following your passion bad advice?
Starting point is 01:01:04 You know, I love these broad like recommendations or wisdom where they're like follow your passion. How many times have you heard that statement on Instagram? You know, I think you're in trouble if you always follow your feelings or if you always follow your mind. I think you have to be able to do both. Always following your passion.
Starting point is 01:01:24 You'll be chasing your feelings around all the time. Because it'll change, too. And you may not be pragmatic. You may end up dating the wrong person because you're passionate about them. You may end up doing a job that doesn't really support you or your family very well because you're not being pragmatic.
Starting point is 01:01:42 Your diet may be passion driven, in which case case you may not eat in the right way. Your workouts might be the wrong workouts. If you always, I think passion and emotion are important as part of what makes this human, but just following passion, I don't think that's a great message. I didn't think you guys were gonna go this direction. I thought I was gonna be the one
Starting point is 01:02:01 that was gonna challenge that. I thought you guys were gonna be all pro, go for your passion. But, no, I guess, you know, that show I was talking to I was gonna be the one that was gonna challenge that. I thought you guys were gonna be all pro. Go for your passion. But. No, I guess, you know, that show I was talking to about the playbook, one of the coaches kind of like alluded to this and said, you know, doing things like that, you are driven by your feelings. And it isn't always the most logical decision, you know,
Starting point is 01:02:18 sometimes you feel passionate about something because it makes you find it's fun or you enjoy it or currently at this moment in your life, you have a feeling around it find it's fun or you enjoy it or currently at this moment in your life, you have a feeling around it and it's that feeling that drives that passion and that may not always drive a logical decision in what you should be doing. And so actually being able to, and it's not also necessarily a bad thing either because hopefully whatever it is that you end up doing for the rest of your life, you're also passionate about it. Maybe the spark that got you there.
Starting point is 01:02:45 Right, but I know there's a lot of things in my life that I'm very passionate about today that I fell into because I was just open to doing a bunch of other things. And so, and I think that this message for the generation kind of coming up now, I'm like being somebody who has had, you know, now what two, three generations that I've led underneath me and seeing like had, you know, now, what two, three generations that I've led underneath me
Starting point is 01:03:06 and seeing like the, you know, Gen Z and... Millennial. Yeah, Millennial's coming up and how they're, this is like a very hot topic, like, finding something that is so passionate about. And they spent, some of them spend so much time trying to find this passion. That they'll turn other things.
Starting point is 01:03:24 Yeah, opportunities away. That's what I'm seeing. They don't do That they'll turn other things. Yeah. Opportunities away. That's what I'm seeing. They don't do something. And part of that is just getting yourself in. Look, I actually did not believe, I did not actually love personal training that much. I liked personal training. I really did. What I found in it was other things that I ended up really being passionate about.
Starting point is 01:03:44 I was passionate about building a business. I liked numbers. I liked sales. I didn't even know it was other things that I ended up really being passionate about. I was passionate about building a business. I liked numbers. I liked sales. I didn't even know that was part of that, but I found out that it was a big part of it, which made me more passionate and fell in love with it. Then I got into leading trainers and thought, oh my God, I don't like personal training at all. I love leading trainers.
Starting point is 01:03:59 So sometimes you don't know if it's going to be something that you're going to be really passionate about. So turning away a lot of things because you're like, oh, I'm not really passionate about that. I don't feel if it's gonna be something that you're gonna be really passionate about. So turning away a lot of things because you're like, oh, I'm not really passionate about that. I don't feel very passionate about it. And so you don't do it. I think that's a silly way to look at your life.
Starting point is 01:04:12 Yeah, I think it's important to definitely don't turn away opportunities, get involved in these opportunities and find where that passion lies within that experience. And for me, it took a while to kind of figure that out. What I really wanted to do. I did a lot of different types of jobs. And it definitely eliminated a lot of directions
Starting point is 01:04:34 that I thought I wanted to go in, but I was like, well, I don't like this industry. I'm not really driven towards this. That other job I had, there was a spark there. And so, in terms of just waiting for that passion to present itself for you, I think that's not the message I would put out there. I think if you're seeking to have passion for something that's going to serve you for the rest of your life, I would say find passion in growth. Because that'll always serve you.
Starting point is 01:05:09 No matter what happens in your life, if you're passionate about growth, it means you're going to embrace challenge. It means that you'll view failure, which you will encounter in your life a lot. You'll view failure as a learning and growth process. I think that's a very smart way to look at things. I think if you run by passion on specific things, you're going to screw yourself. And to your point, Adam about these generations coming up
Starting point is 01:05:36 and having to find their passion. That's the result of a wealthy, easy, good society. I know some people are getting their feelings hurt right now because they think, oh life is so tough or whatever. Okay, I'm talking about in comparison to how it's always been for people. Okay, go back to your parents, your grandparents, your great grandparents.
Starting point is 01:05:56 You know, my great-grandfather didn't find a job that he was passionate about, you know? He did it because of fight tooth and nail for an opportunity. Also, here's a deal. Passion, happiness, excitement. They feel great. They're wonderful, but that's not the key to success in life. The key to success in life is meaning, purpose.
Starting point is 01:06:18 Those will always serve you. They do these surveys of people who have children and they compare them to people who don't have children. And it's so funny when articles are written about this, but you could tell there's a media bias constantly trying to convince people to not have children. Because you'll read that article titles and they'll say things like,
Starting point is 01:06:37 people, you know, couples who don't have kids are more happy. People who don't have kids have more fun. And so if you just read the headline, you're like, wow, I'm not gonna have any kids because people who don't have kids have less stress and they're more happy. Yes, that's true, but continue to read the study.
Starting point is 01:06:53 People who have kids find more purpose in meaning in their life. Which one is more valuable? Ask any old person who's about to die or who's reaching the end of their life and they'll tell you it's meaning in purpose So passion excitement
Starting point is 01:07:08 Happiness are all fleeting. Those are they're great. Enjoy them the real parts of life But that's not what life is all about so although passion is a part of who you are and You should experience it. Don't chase it and drive after it and make that your defining Feeling because you'll be screwed. I promise you, you'll be fleeting. And I've worked with lots of people like this. I have worked with very talented people who were constantly chasing passion. And when they're young, it's okay.
Starting point is 01:07:38 I'm moving from this thing, I'm doing this thing, I'm passionate, I'm bored. And now that they're in their 30s and 40s, they're not successful. They're in debt. Not happy. Not happy. They're always looking for the next thing.
Starting point is 01:07:51 Always looking for the next thing. So. Well, you know what ends up happening is that you're something that you're so passionate about. You end up working in that industry, and then you find out there's so much more to it. And then all of a sudden that passion starts to fade away. And then now you're stuck in this career that you waited so long to get into because you thought
Starting point is 01:08:10 you had to be so passionate about it and that all changed. It's always green or somewhere else. Here's a great example. Talk to any successful couple that's been together for 40, 50, 60 years, right? Talk to them about passion. When you first meet someone, you fall in love with them. Yeah. Passion dominates the relationship. It's just all over the place. But how do you build a long lasting partnership with the person? Those feelings change and go away. And then you have this bond that is different than passion,
Starting point is 01:08:37 but way stronger and more powerful. And that's much more important. If you're always chasing passion, here's what will end up happening. You fall in love with someone, you become passionate, passion starts to wane, then you don't give the bonding a chance, you don't give the hard part, the part that's real important
Starting point is 01:08:52 a chance, you end up leaving them, you go to the next person, you feel passionate about, and that's a road to failure, it's a road to a poor outcome in life. So passion is good, but don't let that rule over. Don't leave it on it, absolutely. Look, mine pump is recorded on videos as well as audio. Come check us out on YouTube, my pump podcast. You can also find all of us on Instagram. Oftentimes we check our DMs, so you can ask us questions too. You can find Doug, the producer at my pump
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