Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1399: How & When to Use Momentum During Lifts, Eating & Training Tips for Women Who Have Lost Their Period, Using Soreness to Guage Overtraining & More

Episode Date: October 10, 2020

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about muscle groups and exercises that benefit from adding momentum, how sore is too sore, training & nutrition for women... who are missing their period and are trying to get it back, and whether it is better to eat breakfast before or after a morning workout.  Adam’s ultimate bachelor pad from back in the day. (4:27) Adam likes it COLD. (9:01) STD’s and the aging population. (10:50) Mind Pump’s hot takes from the VP debate. (14:50) Sal’s son LOVES video games. (19:25) Mind Pump Workouts. (22:05) How would you spend a million dollars a day? (25:36) Mind Pump Investments. (27:09) Have we seen the October surprise? (29:06) Studies with Sal. (31:09) Who has a better reach today, Howard Stern or Joe Rogan? (32:15) The controversy surrounding streaming farms. (34:10) Magic Spoon’s customizable boxes. (37:21) More Studies with Sal. (39:00) #Quah question #1 – The barbell push-press uses momentum that allows more weight for the shoulders. What are some other muscle groups and exercises that benefit from adding momentum? (44:27) #Quah question #2 – As far as overtraining goes, how sore is too sore? (50:32) #Quah question #3 – How do you go about training & nutrition for women who are missing their period and are trying to get it back? Do you have to be more careful with those who have suffered eating disorders in the past? (53:45) #Quah question #4 – For people working out in the mornings, is it better to eat breakfast before or after the workout? (58:35) Related Links/Products Mentioned October Special: MAPS Anabolic and No BS 6-Pack Formula Visit ChiliPad for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! STD Rates Keep Rising for Older Adults Just Getting Started (2017) - Rotten Tomatoes Harris and Pence draw second-largest VP debate audience ever Visit Brain.fm for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners. What 23 Studies Say Is the Best Way to Build Muscle MacKenzie Scott, ex-wife of Jeff Bezos, is the world’s richest woman Demand surges for Regeneron drug that Trump claims ‘cures’ Covid-19 Howard Stern SiriusXM Renewal Seen As Imminent, Boosting Company Shares How the Music Business Can Actually Crack Down on Streaming Fraud Visit Magic Spoon for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! K: The Overlooked Variable That's Driving the Pandemic - The Atlantic Mind Pump TV - YouTube Sore muscles…what does it mean? - Mind Pump Blog Mind Pump #1125: Dr. Jolene Brighten- What You Need To Know About The Menstrual Cycle Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Dr. Jolene Brighten (@drjolenebrighten)  Instagram

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Starting point is 00:00:00 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Saldas Defano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this episode of Mind Pumped the World's Top Ranked Fitness Health and Entertainment podcast, we answered fitness and health questions that were asked by people who listened to the show, or who watched the show on YouTube. But the way we open the episode is with an introductory portion. Today's introductory portion was 40 minutes long. We talked
Starting point is 00:00:30 about studies and we told some stories. After that, we answered the questions. By the way, if you want to fast forward to your favorite part, just go to Mind Pump Podcast.com. Everything is timestamped. All right, here's the breakdown. We start out by talking about Adam's bachelor pad from back in the day and how he likes the AC set so cold that he's broken it five times. That led us to talking about the chili pad. The chili pad is something that goes on your bed. It's water cooled and it cools your bed down or warms it up.
Starting point is 00:00:59 There's two sides to it. So you and your spouse can have different temperatures and it makes a huge difference. Sleep like a champion. Improves your sleep quality. And because you listen to Mind Pump, you get a discount. Here's what you do if you want to check them out. Go to chileatechnology.com.
Starting point is 00:01:13 That's CHILI-technology.com. Forward slash Mind Pump. There's a code on the page that'll give you between 15 to 25% off their products. Then we talked about STDs in the aging population, Justin's an expert on that. Then we talked about the debates last night and how boring they were. I talked about the noise my son makes
Starting point is 00:01:35 when he plays video games. Adam said, gave us a good suggestion. He said we should play brain FM to drown it out. By the way, brain FM plays songs and music that changes your brain state. This stuff is legit. There are things you can listen to to improve your focus, help you sleep better, help you meditate.
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Starting point is 00:02:10 I talked about a study on resistance training, the study highlighted all the things that are most effective for building muscle. We talked about streaming farms and how that's affecting Spotify. We talked about Magic Spoon, one of our sponsors. They make high protein, low sugar, cereal, no artificial sweeteners, gluten-, gluten free and grain free, and they are one of our sponsors.
Starting point is 00:02:30 Go to magicspoon.com forward slash mind pump and you'll get a discount. Then I talked about the coronavirus and how it spreads differently than the flu virus, and I talked about a study showing how being exposed to other coronaviruses that cause a common cold may reduce symptoms from COVID-19. Then we got into answering the questions. The first one, this person wants to know the benefit of the barbell push press, and are there other momentum-based exercises for other body parts that are great? Next question, this person wants to know how sore is too sore when you train your muscles? The next question, this person wants to know how you should train and eat if you are a female who has lost their period.
Starting point is 00:03:13 And the final question, this person wants to know if you work out in the morning, should you eat breakfast or should you eat breakfast after? Lumberjacks will work out. Also, this month we took two of our most popular workout programs, Maps and a Ballac, which is a full body resistance training program designed to build muscle, build strength, speed up the metabolism to make fat loss easier, and we combined it with the no BS 6-pack formula, which is a core training program only.
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Starting point is 00:04:20 happy, return them and you get all your money back. No questions asked. Get your own Teed. You were talking about how the debates is like two old men just like grumpy old men. Yes. Just like that movie, Grumpy Old Men. Yes. Such a classic.
Starting point is 00:04:36 What a great movie. Who are they fighting over in that? I had grumpy old men. That's one chick. She's super famous. So Fialar in? Yes. So Fialar in.
Starting point is 00:04:44 You're right. Doug definitely had a bikini poster of her in his room at one point. So feel Lauren. Yeah. Oh, everybody. Yeah. Well, I think I think we're a little young South. She's in a tie-in treasure.
Starting point is 00:04:54 Yeah. I'm serious. That was like a big deal back in the day. Did you have post, yeah, she's a fox. No, I didn't have no posters of so few. Did you got, now, were you guys allowed to have posters like that in your room? Of girls? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:05 I did not. I know that I wasn't allowed. I just, you know, I didn't want my mom coming in. And, you know, I don't know. I guess when I was at home, it was a little weird. You know what it was for me? I'm alone on this one. Because my cousin had a, you had a Kathy Ireland post.
Starting point is 00:05:19 Was it calendar? I hit all that stuff. He had a calendar. Exactly. Yeah. I thought to myself, I'll steepen my cousin was, and like, now your mom knows you jerk off. Yeah, I got to know. I thought it was a secret.
Starting point is 00:05:30 Your mom knows. I thought nobody knows, you know what I mean? She's so she's. I remember going to work on my dad once, and we were like working or whatever, and my dad made a comment, like, yeah, he's cause you jerking off in the bathroom, you know, because you're working with workers,
Starting point is 00:05:42 and that's the kind of joke. That's all they talk about. And I remember being like, oh my gosh. How did they know? Is that not, that's not a thing with kids anymore, right? Do you like do your boys want posters or do you either want to do your kids? How have they put up a poster?
Starting point is 00:05:53 Have you been online ever? Well bro, that's still, what do you mean? It's decorating your room. Yeah. Why is that not really a thing? I mean, kind of like, I mean, I'm put like, I put Star Wars stuff up for them, you know, just to kind of indoctrinate them, but yeah, no, it wasn't really their idea. Adam had a calendar and stuff and totally did. Up until he was like 30.
Starting point is 00:06:15 Not that late, dude. Hold on a second. He had the ultimate bachelor's head. You had Playboy magazines, you told me the stories. I had it under rotating bed. I didn't just hear them. I had the whole, not only did I subscribe to the magazine have it, and this is totally like for the articles. For the British.
Starting point is 00:06:33 Which by the way, let me tell you, some of the best interviews are in the Playboy magazine. Yeah, no. So I heard, I had like the soap dispensers, the towels, like the whole place was done like that. What do you mean soap dispensers? You can, dude, if you ever got to playboy.com, we playboy.com.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Well, wait a minute. You can buy all like house accessory stuff that is all playable. Hold on a second. Yeah. Did you walk around in a robe or soup? They were playboy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:58 Oh my God. Yeah, it was over the top. Now, a girl coming over your house, there's no doubt what's happening. You know what I mean? She kind of knows what's the deal like if she shows up at your house and she's like okay I really didn't think of it like that she's not thinking like he's a nice guy. Yeah I don't know right you know no one ever called
Starting point is 00:07:14 it out right like which is weird but I I didn't think of it like that I think what it really was was I grew up like Mark I grew up for a very conservative home that my parents were very strict. I wasn't allowed to do anything. And I had my house by the time I was 21 years old. So at 21, you're still kind of a baby, bro. You're making 21 year old ideas. Yeah. And at that time in my life, I'm making pretty good money where I'm at.
Starting point is 00:07:45 Where do you think, oh, girls, I love this. It wasn't, no, it wasn't like that. It was more like, I can do this. This is my house. Nobody can tell me no. Yeah, I couldn't have dirty magazines when I was growing up, so I'm gonna have dirty magazines as an adult. I'm saying that I'm gonna have it on my coffee table
Starting point is 00:07:57 because I can't, because it's my fucking house, right? So it was totally that. And it took, I don't know, it took a good five years to grow out of that. You know what I'm saying know, it took a good five years to grow out of that, you know, so. That's the place. Did you never have like family visit or kids go home? I didn't give a shit.
Starting point is 00:08:11 That was like, that was it. That was like, that was the, that was the play, right? It was just like, it's my house. Now you're in my house. Like when you're, when I was a kid and I was living in their house, it's like, I had to live by their rules. Now you're in my house, these are my rules. That's what happens.
Starting point is 00:08:22 Playfully stay out on the coffee table. That's what happens when you sell that too hard to your kids. And you have your own house, you make your own rules. No, exactly. That's exactly what happens. I mean, I heard that over and over. So of course, as soon as you get it, and I think people that probably wait years and year, like until they're closer to 30 and they get a house,
Starting point is 00:08:39 they're probably a lot more mature and they've grown past all those bullshit. But when you're a kid at 17 years old, living at home, hearing that, and then three years later, I'm in my own place, I mean, I'm still working that shit out. I'm still dealing with all that childhood insecurity. That's why you had the AC on all the time.
Starting point is 00:08:56 Ice cream like crazy. Yeah. I grow now the ice cream in the playboy, but I have not grown out of the AC. It's still blowing outside. Yeah, no, it's still a thing. We had a guy, I think we've burnt up the AC thing like fucking five times in the last few years.
Starting point is 00:09:10 The guy came the other day, I don't know where I was at, but Katrina was home. And he's like, you know, he's like a tech guy, right? And he would age fact guy, right? And he's from a Merced area. And he's like, you guys are, you guys keep this AC just way too low You know it's way too way too set up 60 60 seven. That's not yes That's old. I mean it's cold but no that's the compromise right it was up to me to be 64 right so I want 64 the
Starting point is 00:09:39 Compromise is 67 you want to see your brother that's well it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, like slapping face. That's all I was like, we live in the Bay Area for a reason. We live in the Bay Area for a reason, guy. Well, hold on a second. Did Katrina make the appointment? Yeah, yeah, did she slip. I like the guy. She slipped him a 20. Yeah, I know, I tell him we have to keep it at 70.
Starting point is 00:10:15 Yeah, yeah. Does she, now when you guys use the chili pad, does she put hers on warm and then yours on cold, or does she still cool her side off? No, she does not cool her side off at all. So she'll leave her alone completely and then like I'll run mine. Have you used it to warm your bed up at all?
Starting point is 00:10:30 She has. I don't ever see, I don't even in the winter time, I still like it cold. She will warm the sheets up though if it's in really, really cold. If it's cold winter time and I'm not running the heater or something because I'm obviously the opposite, right? So when winter comes around,
Starting point is 00:10:45 I'd rather just sit by a fire, and then when we go to bed, it's cold. See your breath in the room here. Dude, speaking of old man or whatever, just maybe remember a memory. You know, he's portraying a lot of people in advanced age. And at one point, I had maybe five clients who were in their 70s or 80s who stayed in
Starting point is 00:11:03 those like older living communities or whatever. And they would tell me all the stuff that's going on in these places. So I didn't know this. Now I looked this up, this is a true thing. Did you guys know one of the fastest growing rate of STDs in populations, our older population? Did you guys know this? Yeah. You knew that?
Starting point is 00:11:23 I did know that. Yes. He's fucking around with a little bit of old tune. I know. No, I those? Yeah. You knew that? I did know that. Yes. He's fucking around with a little old chin. I'm not gonna lie. No, I just know that. I know that because there was some article about that. Spying yourself, please. And no, I don't know, I guess it's not common knowledge, but yeah, that was one of those things.
Starting point is 00:11:36 I ran across that and was like, oh, that's interesting. And it's because of like a biagra, and all these introductions of, yeah, all these different ways now that they can keep it. Okay, so it's not, it's not the most prominent in that age group, it's just, it's growing at a faster rate than before.
Starting point is 00:11:51 It's exploding. In fact, well, I mean, what, percentage wise, it was like 1% before, now it's like 12%. So that's, bro, no, they literally now have,
Starting point is 00:12:01 they've had people come and talk to the groups to old people. Yes. It's like sex, get a practice sex come and talk to the groups. To old people. Yes. It's like sex. You got to practice sex. You got to practice sex. Sex head for like 70-year-olds. You got to, you got to, you got to, you got to, you,
Starting point is 00:12:11 because remember, these people came from a different generation where you don't really use a condom unless you were a sailor, you know, at different ports or whatever. At least that's what, that's what, that's what my client is. No, that's hilarious. And so they used to, because STD, STDs would, all of a sudden, just, just go rampant. Like, all of a sudden there'd be like 10 cases
Starting point is 00:12:25 of gonorrhea or whatever. And here's the other part of this. Nanna's got the clap. Yeah, here's the other part of this. So it's Viagra because now all of a sudden, you know, home boy can do it. But the other part of it is that the, if you're like a man,
Starting point is 00:12:41 if you're an old man and you live in these homes, you are the man because, especially if you're an old man and you live in these homes, you are the man. Because, especially if you're set your shit works, though. Because those hips aren't broken. At that age, once you get into the 80s or whatever, it's mostly women. Like dudes usually die. So when you go in these homes,
Starting point is 00:12:57 and they would tell me, like there was this one guy. So I train these three women that all were from the same, you know, living place or whatever. And they would talk about this one dude. Ricardo. And I remember when, I just picture him like, he's got like the comb over.
Starting point is 00:13:12 No, he's got, he's, he's, he's. I picture like a fedora dude, it's like a fedora and some food. We're doing like ballroom dancing, you know, and he's just way too good. You know, you don't have to do anything. I talked to him about, and I remember talking to these ladies
Starting point is 00:13:23 and I was like, because we had this Christmas party so I'll show it up at the same time. I'm like, why do you guys all talk about the same dude? They're like, there's two guys in the whole place. Didn't they make a comedy show after this? And I want to say Morgan Freeman and so in like one or two at a, were in it, there was a comedy show.
Starting point is 00:13:38 Like, God damn it, why can't I think of the name of it? There's a movie that not show a movie that was based on exactly this. And there like a new guy comes in. I can't remember of the name of it. There's a movie that not show a movie that was based on exactly this. And there's like a new guy comes in. I can't remember what it is. So there's one guy who's like the guy of the retirement home, all the ladies love him. And then in comes like another old guy.
Starting point is 00:13:56 Competition. Yeah, and I think that they have a friendly rivalry at the beginning and then they have a friend. Come on, don't you don't know this movie? There you go. And I have not seen it. Thank you so much. the movie of your peers? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:07 No, and they would party, dude. They would party with this guy, like take showers with him. And that's, yeah, tonight I'm gonna take a shower with someone. So I'm like, I can't believe you guys talking this. This is terrible. Yeah, you know? Yes. Totally using the new peruse.
Starting point is 00:14:21 That's it right there, yeah. What's it called? Tommy Lee Jones is the other old guy. Just getting started. Yes. Looks like a terrible movie. No, no, it right there. What's it called? Oh Tommy Lee Jones is the other old guy just getting started? Yes, looks like a terrible movie. No, no, it was funny It's and that's what that's the premise of the of the of the movie is exactly what you're explaining right now It's like the old guy through time home. Oh, it's got all the ladies and stuff like that and then incomes the other day Yeah, yeah
Starting point is 00:14:40 So life that's your goal life He's got a live long enough to be like the guy. Yeah, I can live long enough so my kids put me in one of those homes. Okay. So last night I watched the VP debate. Okay, so this is, just stay awake. Yeah, I did. I watched the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:14:56 Okay, so I watched the whole thing. This is the first time in my life. I have ever watched the presidential debate from beginning to end and watched the VP debate from beginning to end. I used to get people used to give me shit all the time about it right. I don't care about what's going on in my country. And after watching both these this is what I have to say to all those people fuck off. Like you get nothing out of it. You get nothing. Zero. They know one ever and nobody even last night. I thought that Pence and Kamala both handled themselves
Starting point is 00:15:27 professionally and, you know. Well, the contrast from Trump and Biden with the whole mother. Right, right. Just been the feedback. Like it was really. Well, cordial, right? They even complimented each other a couple of times in there.
Starting point is 00:15:39 So like totally respectful, but still, no one answered a question. No, nobody answers a question. They have preloaded shit that they know that they want to say that stirs everybody up, which I'm very familiar with all those points are. And so I feel like we get nowhere. And the biggest thing that I don't like about these debates this year is that it's so much of it is about COVID.
Starting point is 00:16:03 And it's like, it's not the scientists. Yeah, and not only that, it's what ifs. You know, what if you would have done this, we would have done that, then this could have happened, and that could have, it's like all these things that nobody can prove. You know what, speculation. Here again, again, this is just like when people get mad
Starting point is 00:16:20 at the fact that they're at the grocery store and the tabloid has Kim Kardashian on it, why are we all re, why do they make this? Because people buy it. You know what I'm saying? You know why they're talking about COVID all the time? Yeah. Because it's works.
Starting point is 00:16:34 That's how people are afraid of it. Why they're not answering questions because it works. That's how, if we voted differently, believe me, they would talk differently. They'd have to, but they don't because that's what works. Yeah, the best question was literally the eighth creator who asked the very last question. Of course.
Starting point is 00:16:50 Yeah, and that was other than, and even then, like I felt that was the closest, like real answer that was unloaded already. All the rest of them, the question gets asked and I'm like, oh, okay, this will be good. I can't wait to hear what he has to say or what she has to say. It's like, completely take a, this will be good. I can't wait to hear what he has to say or what she has to say. It's like,
Starting point is 00:17:06 completely take a left. You're a political virgin. Oh, I remember feeling like that the first time. Yeah, but you know what? That it's it's just it just reminds me of why I don't watch the bullshit. It's like you're not getting. If you think if you watch that stuff and you really think that you're getting to know what all these what all these politicians are going to do in office, office? Get out of here with dad.
Starting point is 00:17:25 I thought that was funny. I mean, I only watched a little piece. I don't know if this happened the entire way through, but I would listen to Kamala, and then I would listen to Pence, and then they would make their points, and then Pence had a really slow delivery. And so he's like kind of getting through his point,
Starting point is 00:17:39 and we'd get the lady that was, you know, she would just hammer up. I'm like, this is hilarious. Like, he's like so slow and composed, like, but it's just like, stop, your time is done. Like, what? Yeah. Can you please answer why you passed the 1994 crime bill?
Starting point is 00:17:55 You know what, I would love to answer that. That's a very important question. I'm glad you said that, but first I'd like to say something else. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. And you never get the answer. Never get it.
Starting point is 00:18:04 And you wouldn't even get the full finish of that, right? Yeah. Could you imagine a real life was like that? I'll first read it. If you're talking to your wife, honey, why didn't you buy the burger? Actually, I'm glad you asked that question. Oh, yeah. The first way to do that, but here's what happened first.
Starting point is 00:18:16 Yeah, first I'd like to say though that American people really are, you know, they work hard at the end of your life. What the hell? What's going on here? Yeah. I'm in the Twilight Zone. It's just verbal diarrhea. Did you guys ever watch, what's it called? What was that old cartoon duck?
Starting point is 00:18:31 I know it was good to do it, but it's something old. Johnny, something, he's got the dads, the adventure cartoon. Oh, that's, Shit, not Johnny, please. You know what I'm talking about? Come on, you know what I'm talking about? No, you had the race car and everything.
Starting point is 00:18:45 It's a, it was like a 1960s adventure cartoon. Remember I had no TV. Johnny Blaze, Johnny. Hannah Barbarra. Oh, right. I know you're good. I'm gonna remember it because Pence looks exactly like the dad. Oh, I know you're talking about.
Starting point is 00:19:00 Yeah, it's Johnny's something. It's an old cartoon from the 1960s. It's an adventure. I patch No, no one of the characters in you and your pirates late. I'm a big on pirates big on seniors Senior pirates I'll yeah, I'll figure it out. I Dude, I gotta have a talk with my boy tonight. You know how I told you guys we moved him in the garage because he makes too much noise. Oh, boy, guys.
Starting point is 00:19:29 Has he just completely owned the space now? Well, so here's a thing, okay. So we got a combination of two things. One, Jessica's not sleeping well at all. And so when you're not sleeping well, you hear everything. So that's part of it. Oh, Johnny Quest. Yes, Johnny Quest.
Starting point is 00:19:44 What a great, okay, look at his, look at his, I don't remember that. Look at the dude, that's not his dad, that's part of it. Oh, Johnny Quest. Yes. Oh, Johnny Quest. What a great look. Okay, look at his, look at his, I remember that. Look at the dude. That's not his dad. That's the other guy. Look at him. That's frickin' pants, dude.
Starting point is 00:19:51 It is. That's a cartoon character. Because he's got white hair. But he looks exactly like him. Yeah. Anyway, so she's not sleeping well. So she hears everything. And then on top of it, my son just gets loud and excited.
Starting point is 00:20:01 So he's all the way in the garage. And last night, you could, I mean, I could barely hear him, but you could hear him. And if you're not sleeping, you're gonna hear all that, right? Yeah. So he's in the garage. Just, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, you know?
Starting point is 00:20:13 So I'm like, oh my, what am I gonna do now? You know? And he's just like, he doesn't, you know, so if I tell him and he doesn't do it. What time is this at? This was, I let him play till about 10.30.11. And we go to bed usually at 9.30, we're in him play till about 10.30.11. And we go to bed, use it at 9.30, we're in bed cause we wake up pretty early.
Starting point is 00:20:29 So it's like 10.30. You know how you gotta get it there? You can hear him like, you know how you gotta get it to play. Hi, nubes. Yeah, I'm just gonna have that conversation out. Is it garage that close to your guys' bedroom? It's, you know how my place is?
Starting point is 00:20:41 Is that little old patio area like thing? And then the garage right there? Yeah, I would think that's enough. Just to get a buffer. I know I'm trying to patio area, like thing, and then the garage right there. Yeah, I would think that's enough, just to get a buffer. I know, I would think that's enough, just to hear it a little bit. I mean, to be fair, it's not like super whatever, but yeah, yeah, if it bothers. So why don't you and Jessica have like a, like brain FM or something like that going in the bedroom?
Starting point is 00:21:00 Like, wouldn't you sleep, wouldn't you sleep with white noise? I would like a quiet. I like a totally quiet. You know when I do brain FM, when I need to take a nap or when I'm on a plane, that's when I use it. Because you do it when I'm around a lot of noise. Yeah, because it's great for noise cancellation.
Starting point is 00:21:17 That's what it's wonderful for. I mean, so when you have something just like that, it's perfect. You'd much rather hear waves crashing than some teenage boys screaming. Yeah, that's a good question. Maybe we should try that anyway. Even if you have something just like that, it's perfect. You'd much rather hear like waves crashing than some, you know, teenage boys screaming. Yeah, that's a good question. Maybe we should try that anyway. Even if you did this, right?
Starting point is 00:21:29 So even if it's not in your room, you, so this is what I do with the dogs, right? It's, you just gotta make the white noise between her and him. So if you put the, even the white noise out in the kitchen or living room area and just let it play lightly, it'll be enough to drown out what he's doing in there.
Starting point is 00:21:45 So she'll hear waves crashing or whatever like thing you want, whatever white noise thing that you want to bring in a FEM house. She'll subtly hear that and hopefully that's more relaxing. That's not sleep mode. That's a good lip-sync. It's good lip-sync. It is. It's good.
Starting point is 00:22:03 It's good. It's good. It's good. It's good. It's is. It's a PR material. You get a good squeeze whenever you do that. I've been doing the alternate, you know how in MapsBlit and phase one, there's like, you know, you hit everybody part twice a week, right? But the second work out of the week, you're doing alternating exercises or alternating limbs. So like, you know, so workout one for chest might be like a barbell incline press.
Starting point is 00:22:23 And then the second time around that week, you're doing an incline dumbbell press, but you're alternating with the dumbbells. You know, it's great. Sometimes it's such a good, even if you're advanced, or you know what you're doing, like I wrote these programs with you guys. I know what I'm doing.
Starting point is 00:22:37 I've trained lots of people. But sometimes I don't do things unless it's part of a program and it's written in there and I'm saying I'm gonna follow it. Yeah. Because I typically don't do that consistently with alternating. and less it's part of a program and it's written in there and I'm saying I'm gonna follow it. Yeah. Because I typically don't do that consistently with alternating, like alternate, you know, like a dumbbell row or one arm goes up
Starting point is 00:22:51 and then the other one rows and then I switch off or a press or whatever, a lot of value in that. Oh, I love stabilizing with the other arm. Like you get even more effects from that. Yeah, alternating is one of those things I've incorporated to myself as of late with kettlebell, especially kettlebell overhead press. Well, just from a bodybuilding perspective, the pump is intense, especially if you alternate at the squeeze, that's what I try to do. I'll hold the dumbbell up at the top.
Starting point is 00:23:17 Just like literally three workouts ago, I did, you know, stability ball alternating chest press. I love that. And then you stabilize when you're at the top. So I'm having to stabilize the dumbbell. So my chest is staying contract at the entire time that's why you're coming down on the opposite and you're alternating. I love doing stuff. I think it belongs and everybody's routine.
Starting point is 00:23:36 It doesn't, maybe it's not the main focus if you're more focused on strength gaining or bodybuilding, but it belongs in there. It definitely belongs, intermittently. in there. You know, it definitely belong intermittently. And what I feel really like, when I did the wakeboarding last weekend, waterboarding. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:53 Sorry. Can I just, that moment, that was so, hey, that meme was so good. Yeah. Whoever's, there's the best line. It should be called waterboarding.
Starting point is 00:24:00 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it makes sense. Shout out to the two pages, there's two pages, I don't know who runs these pages. So I can't shout out the actual person who they're trying to stay anonymous. But they, uh, they're doing a really good job of the memes because they stay current with the show and, uh, they make me laugh. You know, I'm saying because I forget we talk all the fricking time and sometimes
Starting point is 00:24:19 I forget what we talked about. But I'll get on Instagram now and they obviously tag us, right? So it'll come up. go, it's right, I forgot. Cell said that. Oh, that's a great one. Yeah, that's the last one. I like the one where we're on the couch and we're like, we're watching like snuggling. What the fuck?
Starting point is 00:24:33 And Adam's on my leg. I'm like, I'm like a little mitch at you, dude. You got me all the time. You can't say that anymore. Yeah, it's so appropriate. Hey, have you guys ever, speaking of physiabolics, have you ever ever see one explode underneath someone? No.
Starting point is 00:24:47 Yeah, one time actually. I saw one. Yeah, big guys was sitting on it and exploding. It was back. I felt so bad because it was an obese woman. And by the way, for listeners, physiables, if they're good, they don't explode. I mean, you could put a lot of weight on those.
Starting point is 00:25:03 You could, I mean, they're not gonna explode. They're very, very strong. But sometimes if they're old or they have a dried out or a slasher or something. Something, right? And we had one in the aerobic studio, so one of the gyms I managed and there was this woman I had just signed up for a membership, very, very big woman and she's in there and she goes to sit on a fisiable and it blows up. And it's hell allowed.
Starting point is 00:25:26 And I felt so bad. I walked over to him like, hey, you know, don't worry, it's not you, you know, it was just tall. That was terrible. I was reading an article that today and I want to hear what you guys think about like, you know, Jeff Bezos, right? He got his divorce this last year. And his wife now is worth $60, 40 or $60 billion. $60 billion.
Starting point is 00:25:51 And I was, what I was doing, I was doing the math on it. She married well. Yeah, you can do, I know there's a bunch of people, she earned that, you know, for sure, right? So, she could spend a million dollars a day, pretty much the rest of her life and never run out of her money. Crazy, is that?
Starting point is 00:26:07 That's so much. Can't even imagine that. You know how hard it would be to spend a million dollars a day? Yeah, that's the same challenge. Yeah. What would you do? You couldn't. Yeah, at that point, I don't think,
Starting point is 00:26:19 I don't think it's even fun to spend money anymore. At that point, I think you don't have everything. Yeah, you've already bought everything you want. I think it's just like setting up your great, great, great, great children. You shield everybody from your own government. Yeah, this is why people get upset though. They'll see that and be like, that's not fair,
Starting point is 00:26:35 you know, whatever. But you know, they don't realize is that money that's either an investment or even in the bank, it provides liquidity for the market and investment for other companies. So it still is playing a role. It's not the same as having $60 billion cash dollars and hiding them underground or something like that.
Starting point is 00:26:52 In which case it is not doing that. Is that all wrapped up in Amazon? Like in the stock? Yeah, she has 4% of Amazon, right? So she's not necessarily walking around with $60 billion in her bank account. I don't think. But I mean, I think you can, I'm sure she can sell that percentage off anytime she wants.
Starting point is 00:27:07 Speaking of companies, I wonder how that one company that makes the regeneron. That's the drug that the Trump was like, I said that was going to go crazy before he did that video, dude. I want to see what the stock is doing on that. He was doing it hard. Yeah. Well, we looked at it. We looked at it yesterday because I had seen an article on it before he did that whole talk and you looked it up and it was already on the rise. So I don't know, I don't remember what the ticker was, but we were talking about it.
Starting point is 00:27:32 Is Regeneron the name of the company? I believe it is. Really? Doug, do you remember we were talking stocks just the other day and this was a stock that I said to look up, sal looked it up and said it would have had already. Oh, Regeneron is the name of the drug maker. It is. So I'm gonna look up the ticker to see what's happening
Starting point is 00:27:50 with the price. Well, I'll be interesting now. Oh, wow. It's $602, but is that up or down? No, it's way up. That was like, it was like 300 and something. No, I don't think so. I think we were looking at a different drug.
Starting point is 00:28:02 Yeah, that's expensive. Oh, it's up 9% today. Yeah, so it's interesting to me. Cause like whatever he sort of promotes, there's gonna be like that high percentage of people that anything he says are gonna do the opposite. You know, so you wonder if it's, as a company, when he mentions you, whether or not they're like stoked,
Starting point is 00:28:20 they're like, oh bro, he's still, he's still gonna get massive pool. Yeah, yeah. No, if you you're if the president Mentioned you keep me cuz you mentioned you should get all your fitness information from mind bump We're getting explode. I don't want that kind of heat. Yeah No, it's just annoying. I'll take it if there's something like really valid and awesome and and you know you want people to You know seek
Starting point is 00:28:42 You know look into it and then he says it, you're like, oh no, because, you know, you're gonna be fighting people on this. Yeah, that's a lot of heat, dude. I mean, I feel like his friend owns Regeneron, that's what I feel like. I feel like it's one of his old contacts, you know what I mean? Yeah, and you know what though?
Starting point is 00:28:57 He's like, hey I'm sick. I'm sure he's got a million of those. He's like, if you hook me up with the drug, that's not FDA approved, and it works, don't worry about it, I'll mention you guys on Twitter. Yeah, you know what I'm saying what so what so do you think it could we we've been waiting all the way to october for this october surprise and from both from both parties uh... do you think that there's still something to come
Starting point is 00:29:15 or do you think that we've seen what that we've seen the best from both sides so you mentioned that tweet that he just did like uh like you want to talk about that? He declassified all the investigative information on the Russia, you know, which actually it's turning out to be a, like a hoax, right? But he's declassifying all that, declassifying all the stuff on Hillary's emails. Apparently, this is what he said that Obama was briefed that Hillary would be using this Russia collusion thing as a political tool. It's fabricated and that nobody said anything, they allowed it to happen, which would be, I mean, if that's true, that would be terrible.
Starting point is 00:29:58 So we'll see what's declassified and what comes out of that. COVID, you know, he got sick, that could be like an October surprise. I don't think we've seen what they're going to. What about the other side? I mean, it's mainly just the taxes and, you know, kind of coming out with that is. I think they're waiting. That's not time, man. Yeah, I was like, that's pretty weak. I think that, you know, you know, why the news cycle and people's opinions is so quick now to change, it's even faster now because of social media. Yeah. That you have to time it just right. Meanwhile, what happened to Jusley Maxwell?
Starting point is 00:30:28 Do I have to be the only one that's still is trying to pay attention? No one's suicide at her yet, huh? Yeah, she's still hanging around. Where is that? Where are we with that? I don't know, but the ex-reddit CEO made some comment, some public comment about her
Starting point is 00:30:44 and said that he was at a party with her and a lot of other very influential people and he said, yeah, everybody knew that she provided underage girls for sex and nobody seemed to care back then. So that's a kind of a crazy statement coming from someone. You know what I mean? Yeah, if it's all true, I don't know. I'm not a huge proponent of the death penalty,
Starting point is 00:31:03 but in this case, maybe. Yeah, you know what I mean? Seriously. Yeah, let's see what happens. Hey, I read this, I found this article that compiled tons and tons of studies on resistance training. So this guy literally went through and found all the best studies with the best controls on resistance training
Starting point is 00:31:23 and listed all the most important muscle building factors as proven by studies. And I went on there to see what he had compiled. You know, what are the studies all say? Because I've read a lot of them, but I'd like to see when someone summarizes it. And it's everything that we know to be true, everything. Like, you know, all the rep ranges build muscle, so it's good to phase in and out of them. You probably frequency and volume are very important, especially frequency for muscle growth.
Starting point is 00:31:54 Rest periods are important, although it's probably good to cycle in and out of different, I mean, everything that we talk about, this article went through and showed the evidence in the studies. I love seeing stuff like that. So basically everything that you're putting in the book anyway, so. Yeah, it doesn't really matter. Everything we talk about this article went through and showed the evidence in the studies. I love things. So basically everything that you're putting in the book anyway. So, this doesn't really matter.
Starting point is 00:32:08 Everything we talk about. Nothing new. Nothing new. No. It's more ammunition, you know, to build up our case. Did you guys see Howard Stern resigned? Oh yeah. Did you see that?
Starting point is 00:32:18 For like 100, 120 million. 100 million, 20 million a year, dude. What is he making serious? Do they still make money? I know. Yeah, but here's the theory on that, right? And I guess, I mean, imagine serious being in this situation. Okay, obviously Howard Stern was the Joe Rogan before Joe Rogan, right?
Starting point is 00:32:35 So he's got that kind of pool. You know that they paid a massive money to originally go over to serious. So you got to think that, you know, okay, if you think he's on the level of Joe Rogan, which I think he absolutely is, he's got millions of people that are listening to him. I think there's millions of people that subscribe to Sirius just because of him. And the, the,
Starting point is 00:32:58 So basically it's 15. Right, it's 15 to $18 a month for subscription for Sirius. So think of him having what just one million people, one million people, that's $15 million a month times 12. That's well over 120 million a year. So like you almost have to pay that guy as long as he has that much pool. Who do you think has a bigger reach today?
Starting point is 00:33:19 Him or Rogan? I would think Rogan because he's getting capturing more of the younger generation, but I don't know. Do do do more older people still listen to talk radio? Well, yeah, I think that's the the factor really. It's that paid wall. I think that eliminates a lot of potential new listeners because it's like he might have like kept a big majority of his listenership, but behind that paid wall, that's a tough jump for a lot of people to commit to. Yeah, I'm surprised that Spotify didn't get involved
Starting point is 00:33:50 in a bidding war for him. If his contract was up due up and they paid in 120, why not pay him? Maybe they did and we didn't know. Yeah, maybe why not offer him? That would make them a monster. Right. That's what I would think.
Starting point is 00:34:02 They have those two titans, that would be crazy. Would you hear they're in kind of deep water right now with these what they're calling streaming farms. So this is really popular in the music space right now. It's been popular for a while. And it's been like one of the biggest like controversies with musicians is like, you know, they they jump to the top of the charts. And a lot of that is all based off of streams now, right? Because we don't buy records. People don't go buy records or CDs or cassettes anymore. So it's all based off of streams. But you've got so many of these
Starting point is 00:34:33 streaming farms that have got 10,000 phones that are all in and then they just auto-list into all these. They set them up set these accounts to make it look like it's to make sure they look at it. And so that's a big hack for a lot of these, these guys and girls that release a song, they go to these streaming farms, they get them to download hundreds of thousands of downloads right away. So the numbers go up and then they can, yeah, so they inflate them like crazy. Wow. That's the same thing people do on social media when they get all of a sudden, you know,
Starting point is 00:35:01 five thousand fans, yeah, five thousand followers. Right. But that's it. I mean, they're losing millions. I think it was even billions of dollars based off of that because that's how they base how they're gonna pay. Pay these artists that are on there. So that's a big thing they're trying to solve and figure. That's why you're all crazy.
Starting point is 00:35:17 Yeah, you gotta think of that as if you're spotify. You're one of these major companies that, there's farms out there, there's trolling farms out there, you know, even if for Instagram, for Facebook, for all these kind of tech companies, I mean, they have to, like, have somebody there accounting for all these excess amount of numbers of people.
Starting point is 00:35:39 Yeah, I feel like right now it's got a lot of power, but I feel like as people get more and more privy to it and used to social media, that that's gonna have a lot of... How are they gonna filter this? Yeah, cause it has a lot of power right now. Well, it reminds me of this, like think about it this way. Imagine how powerful the first TV commercials were
Starting point is 00:35:58 when TV kind of, when they first came out, right? Yeah. They were probably so effective and people probably thought to myself, to themselves, oh, this is true. This commercial said that this product is the best. I believe it because I just saw it on TV. And then it got to the point where you watch TV commercial and you're like, okay, right, yeah, I don't believe anything you guys say.
Starting point is 00:36:16 But with social media, when you see comments and stuff, you tend to believe like, oh, this is what people are thinking. Not realizing that there's a lot of these paid for bots and trolls. I wonder if that's going to change, you know what I mean? The way, like the way we view TV commercials change, I wonder if that's going to change. Yeah, I don't think it'll change that people will stop doing it. I think it'll only get worse, but I do think that, like to your point, that more people will, it'll carry less weight. Less people will, this is where I see Facebook really shining because
Starting point is 00:36:45 they have connections to your family, your intimate friends. So it's like, you know, I really feel like it's going to reduce down to people you like, no, yeah, in trust and whatever they say. And so they're going to like kind of prop them to, right, that makes sense, right? So like, you know, instead of now looking at things where it's got, you know, like, usually likes it, a million likes, it'll be like, you know, instead of now looking at things where it's got, you know, like, Susie likes it, a million likes, it'll be like, you know, 80% of your friends like this, or 20% of your friends don't like this. Like, so that would be more valuable to me
Starting point is 00:37:13 than coming across the page. It's got a million likes or a million comments on it that, you know, all of them or half of them could all be coming from one of these farms. You guys get emails from Magic Spoon? Like, when I ordered, I get emails from every now and then. It was opening it and they had this cool thing where you could basically pick like four different boxes
Starting point is 00:37:33 that you could make your own combo now. Instead of just getting that one combo that's always like the same four. You can actually throw peanut butter in there. You can throw a couple of the new flavors in there that they didn't have before as an option. I was like, oh, that's the custom bundle. Oh, wow. Which is a great idea. Is blueberry still the jam? Is that the best one?
Starting point is 00:37:54 Blueberry, I don't know, man, peanut butter is really good too. I like peanut butter with the chocolate combo. I really wasn't a fan of the chocolate, but the combo of peanut butter and chocolate is great. Well, when they reformulated the flavor, I actually think't like a fan of the chocolate, but the combo of peanut butter and chocolate is great. Well, when they reformulated the flavor, I actually think that the fruity flavor ended up being like, yeah, fruity actually did. The fruity-ass fruity. Yeah, fruity, blueberry.
Starting point is 00:38:14 For me, it's fruity, blueberry, and peanut butter like that. Well, it's also this, a lot of people don't know this, that, okay, high in protein, no sugar, right? It's natural ingredients or whatever. Good quality proteins made with milk and way protein. A lot of people know this though. It's gluten-free and grain-free. So there are a lot of people who,
Starting point is 00:38:33 because cereals are typically not gluten-free. And a high protein cereal is typically not gluten-free. That's a good point. I mean, that's the only reason why I can eat it. Right, so, I mean, I, you know, if you have a dairy intolerance, okay, fine, you're probably not eating cereal anyway, but otherwise, grain-freeing, gluten-free, too. So, you get your high protein, no gluten, no sugar, natural ingredients, no artificial flavors. I mean, it's not
Starting point is 00:38:55 wondered that it's- No, I'm due to- Yeah, they're killing it. It's crushing. I'm due to re-uproar. Hey, I read a cool study on coronavirus. So, there's a lot of interesting stuff that's coming out. First off, there was this huge article I read, explaining why coronavirus is so hard to predict in comparison to the flu. So the way that viruses spread can be different from virus to virus. With the flu, you tend to have this kind of general
Starting point is 00:39:21 transmission rate, okay? So you can predict this many people get it, and they'll infect this many people. And so we can make charts and say, we predict this many infections. The thing with the coronavirus that we're now learning that is really strange is that there's some people in situations that spread it like crazy,
Starting point is 00:39:40 and then there's lots of situations where you don't spread it at all. In fact, I have a friend who had coronavirus and in the same house with his wife and kids, nobody else got it. Oh, interesting. Just he got it. Dr. Jolene Brighton, she got it. Nobody in her family got it.
Starting point is 00:39:55 But then you have situations like there was just one woman who was at a church service and they did the distancing and everything. But out of that church service, something like 50-something people got infected and they're called super spreaders. And you see this with some viruses. And so this is what makes it so hard to calculate because averages don't work with that. For example, if you're trying to, like, if you wanted to figure out the average pay of people in a restaurant and then Jeff Bezos walks in, all of a sudden everybody's average pay is now,
Starting point is 00:40:26 you know, $200 million, this is one guy who is worth a trillion dollars, right? So it's hard to figure that out. It's a good point. They're trying to figure this out, and this is why contact tracing seems to be. Well, this is also why I hate this, this is the conversation in these debates.
Starting point is 00:40:39 Because of all the stuff, and they're still figuring it out. I mean, I figured out anything I feel. Yeah, so it's like some people are super spreaders and then there's most people aren't at all. That's interesting because I have a friend that got it and she gave it to her husband, the whole family got it. Sure.
Starting point is 00:40:56 So that's, you know, which I would think that would be more common, but I guess. Now the flu works that way typically. It's pretty consistent with how it spreads. We can kind of predict we see their, you know, models and we know what's gonna happen. Coronavirus is strange. I can Sweden, for example, they didn't shut anything down. What they did is banned, like gatherings of larger than 50 people and schools were still open up to 16 years old, I think, after
Starting point is 00:41:19 that, then they close the schools down. But they're largely open. You go to restaurants now. Nobody's wearing masks, everybody's whatever. And they're, it, but they're largely open. You go to restaurants now, nobody's wearing masks, everybody's whatever, and it seems like they're beating this whole thing, and they're trying to figure out, how does that work over there? Why is it some areas, we see this crazy spread, like in Italy, there's one town that made up like 75% of all the cases of coronavirus, and it's because of this, because some,
Starting point is 00:41:43 and so once they figure this out, I think it's gonna help them out. what what what makes up those super spread. Yeah. Anyway, so here's another part of this article. Apparently, there's studies showing that if you were exposed to other coronaviruses because there's lots of different Corona viruses, right? The one that we're talking about is COVID-19, but there's other ones that cause like the common cold. And they're finding in some of these studies that if you were exposed to other coronaviruses that cause the common cold, that the current COVID-19 virus is probably gonna have a much lower effect on you. Which is good because-
Starting point is 00:42:15 You build up some antibodies. Yeah, so that's good news because that means that we, because the old theory on herd immunity is we kind of based it off of how the flu works, but if it's with COVID is different, then it may mean that we don't need to get nearly as many people. Do you know what we've connected?
Starting point is 00:42:32 This was smoking, people that smoke, like how much the higher risk they are, because this is a respiratory thing, right? That's one of the reasons why it hits people so hard. So, well now they're saying it's a blood vessel thing. Oh, yeah, that it does affect the respiratory system, but it's through the blood vessels. But we're seeing neurological issues and damage
Starting point is 00:42:49 and issues with the nervous system. That's what I'm worried about. It's the neurological stuff that like later on, like five, 10 years from now, you know, if there's any more ramifications from that. Yeah, I don't know, we'll see, but it is interesting. It's not like other, like, flu we know a lot about because every other pandemic we've had
Starting point is 00:43:07 for the last hour, however many, you know, 100 years or so were flu, you know, pandemic. Was that mean that you shared? Was that a real picture of the, it would look like it was like some sort of, you know, concert or orchestra and they were like, they're playing the flutes and they had like, mass with like, that's a real picture. Yeah, and there's like an opening
Starting point is 00:43:24 so they could play the clarinet or whatever. That's a real picture. Yeah, and there's like opening, so they could play the clarinet or whatever. That's a real picture. Yeah, dude. That is a stupid issue. I'm sorry, I can't. I don't have any comment. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 00:43:35 That's getting so ridiculous. You hear slap me in the face. Yeah, Gavin Newsom said, you recommended that people put their mask on in between bites at a restaurant. I want to vote that we don't mention that guy anymore Yeah, did we get a bad review because that did we get somebody who's like a big new some fan? I don't know that existed. It does have nice hair and he has hands
Starting point is 00:43:55 on. I will say that. He has a bad going for it. This quas brought to you by Organify. For those days you fall short on getting your organic veggies or whole food nutrition, Organify. F-I dot com and use a coupon code mine pump for 20% off at checkout. First question is from Andrew Woodruff 15. The Barbell Pushed Press uses momentum to allow more weight for the shoulders. Water some other muscle groups and exercises that really benefit from added momentum.
Starting point is 00:44:39 That's kind of a cool question. Yeah, so it's not necessarily the momentum. Although there are some momentum can provide some benefits like helping you get past the sticking point in the lift, but really explosiveness. That's where it's the speed. It's the speed that you're getting the benefit from. A push press is a faster press than a straight shoulder press. I will say this, nine at a ten times you should do a straight press.
Starting point is 00:45:01 Well, it's speed and load, right? Because you can move more weight, so you're moving more load and it's speed. So those two things are the two factors that are the two major benefits that you're getting. Yeah, but you could also get incredible value from speed with a light load if you're explosive enough. Olympic lifters do this all the time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:19 What muscle groups can get benefit from this? All muscle groups, but that doesn't mean you should apply this to all muscle groups. I think for some exercises, it lends itself well. Other exercises, it doesn't lend itself very well. If you're going to do overhead trisip extension, explosive momentum-based trisip extension, I don't think the benefit outweighs the risk from doing that. And if your goal is just to build a good, strong, solid, muscular physique, you could probably never do movements like this. And again, I think explosives, fast movements,
Starting point is 00:45:57 they have some value, but you need to have good stability, you need to have great form, good control, because the risk of injury goes up. Yeah, it exposes the cracks. Anytime you add acceleration into the mix and you haven't worked on stabilizing and being able to decelerate properly, then that's where you put yourself like at high risk.
Starting point is 00:46:20 So it's more of a high risk thing, but you do get the rewards of the fast twitch response. And that's something that if you're not working on that at all You know that's a major benefit that you know actually is gonna produce some size to the muscle and some strength that you're not gonna get just from You know your slower cadence type lifts. I see a lot of I actually see a lot of benefit from it Especially for the advanced lifter, right? So I saw huge results by doing that. I didn't really ever train power. It was not a focus on that.
Starting point is 00:46:51 Now, when I was competing and having to see progress, right, it really challenged my programming and diet more than I've ever challenged myself personally to string, you know, several years of crazy consistency. I really had to pull every trick I had, like everything that I knew have learned over the last two decades in training, which caused me to do things like this. I would have never done a heavy push press in the past. I'm not a power lifter. I didn't see a tremendous amount of value in it.
Starting point is 00:47:20 To your point, Sal, you can get tons of gains with never, ever really utilizing something like this. But when you're kind of pulling everything out and you've never trained this way, my shoulders blew up because of heavy push presses. I was not using utilizing that, going to that was great. Now that being said, I think of it the same way teaching someone basketball or any other sport.
Starting point is 00:47:42 And when it's like teaching someone a spin move, a behind the back pass can be very valuable if you have built an incredible game of all the foundational moves and exercise and you can handle the ball really well. There is gonna become a time in the game where throwing it behind the back pass, if you don't know how to do that really well,
Starting point is 00:48:02 can become very valuable or a crazy between the legs crossover type of deal, right? But if you don't know how to do that really well, it can become very valuable, or a crazy between the legs, crossover type of deal, right? But if you can't lay the ball up well, you can't dribble with both hands very well, you can't pivot very well, you can't do all the basics very well, training this way will hurt you more, just like it would in a game.
Starting point is 00:48:18 If you can't do those fundamentals, and you're trying to do fancy moves in a game, you're gonna get balls going to get stolen from you, you're gonna get a poke loose, and it's not going to benefit you very much. Well, also, to your point of like, there's not a lot of, maybe barbell exercises. I mean, Olympic lifts, obviously,
Starting point is 00:48:32 that's like something that people know right away. Like, this is about acceleration, this is about speeds, about technique, and form at a tight, you know, level. There are other alternatives. So, this is where I really like the kettlebells and the kettlebell swings. And that's because you're getting that snap and that power out of derived out of your hips. And so that's really where it's sent, like, it's centered to everything.
Starting point is 00:48:55 And even in your push press, like you're getting that snap and power from that hip hinge and that really fast, powerful snap that you're gonna get from the hips. And so the kettlebell swinging addresses that beautifully. And it's pretty controlled and safe in terms of learning how to utilize power in your programming, as well as medicine balls. Medicine balls, I like things where you can take weight and you can get rid of it.
Starting point is 00:49:22 And so you don't even have to worry about the de-selleration part of that movement. Yeah, bringing down a push press to your chest improperly, great way to hurt your shoulder or even hurt your rib cage, I tell you what, if your mentality going into speed or momentum-based exercises is all about being able to lift more weight, you're doing it wrong. Okay, so if you're just motivated, if you're doing curls and you're like, you know what,
Starting point is 00:49:46 I'm curling the 30s, I want to curl the 45s and so you get your, you start to swing and get bad money. That's the wrong reason to do these types of movements. Don't worry so much about the weight, use the appropriate amount of weight, which sometimes and oftentimes is more weight, but if it's just a way for you to lift more weight in the gym, you're using it wrong. Well, you have, I mean, the question is like, what other, we didn't even address what other muscle groups. I really see lots of value in every other muscle group except for maybe your buys, tries, and calves. You could do like a pen lay row for your back, you could do for, you know,
Starting point is 00:50:18 explosive pushups. Chest past the wall. Yeah, for that. Even bench press with speed, you know, say, even if you got a good form and technique with the bench press, doing that with the light, light low and explosive. And the rotational tosses, all kinds of stuff. Next question is from Alabama craft master. As far as overtraining goes, how sore is too sore? Usually, I'll give you a general answer. Usually, if you're sore for longer than a couple days.
Starting point is 00:50:44 Two days, I would say more than that, you probably over-did it. If your soreness is impeding your performance in your next workout, you probably over-did it. If it's sore to the touch, rather than like, it's okay to get sore to where you have to stretch the muscle. If I worked on my chest yesterday, right, I don't notice it's sore unless I sit there and stretch it,
Starting point is 00:51:05 and I go, oh yeah, I feel a little bit of soreness. That's okay, but when it gets like sore the touch where every movement hurts, where it lasts for more than two days, you probably overdid it. Yeah, it's almost like when you're really tight and restricted versus like you're aching all day, like it's just this constant sort of throbbing signal
Starting point is 00:51:26 that you're sitting with, which I've been to that level. And that's not something that I'm like, oh wow, that was way too far, way overreached. But like a little bit of tightness, I think it should be expected. I mean, this is such a hard one to answer because of the individual variance, because so many people are, if I'm talking to a client, for say, for example,
Starting point is 00:51:47 I'm talking to a client who is completely weightlifting is foreign to them. They're the type of person who, remember the first time you train these clients where they say, instead of saying sore, they're like, I hurt, my bicep hurt, they think they hurt themselves. They're not familiar with feeling sore.
Starting point is 00:52:03 Explaining them what soreness is, and that that it's okay and it's part of the process, that conversation sounds like that. Then you have someone on the other end of the spectrum who is hardcore training all the time and they're chasing the soreness because they don't feel like they have accomplished a good workout unless they're really sore. Then I'm talking different to that person because that person more likely is in what like Sal always explains the what I like the recovery trap where your body is constantly sore. It's always trying to recover it and it's never allowing it to adapt and grit stronger and build more muscles.
Starting point is 00:52:35 So it is a fine line and fine dance myself personally. When I if I come out of a workout in the next day, I'm really sore to where I can feel it the way I move, whether it be in my chest or my legs, I'm walking differently or I'm moving differently because I am so sore, I overreached. I always look at that as like I did more than I needed to do. I could have done X amount less sets, I could have worked out 10 minutes less
Starting point is 00:53:04 and I could have been just as effective as far as my pursuit of building more muscle. So, and that is a constant conversation with myself. So, it really depends on who I'm talking to. Are you the person who gravitates towards training to be sore? You probably need to back off and learn how to scale back on in your workouts. If you're someone who's just unfamiliar with being sore and you're like, oh my god, is
Starting point is 00:53:27 this a bad thing? I heard mine pump says I shouldn't be too sore and I actually feel really sore this next day. Getting that person comfortable with being sore. It's a really hard one to answer on a podcast when I'm not looking at the person or talking to or know their history to where I can tell them how sore they should or should not be. Next question is from Sarah Stone. How do you go about training and nutrition for women who are missing their period and are
Starting point is 00:53:51 trying to get it back? Do you have to be more careful with those who have suffered eating disorders in the past? Due to the both questions, I'm going to assume that the reason why this person is missing their period is Probably because they're too lean and they're over training. They're over working now There's lots of reasons why a woman could lose their period and you know This is something that you'd want to work with a medical professional over now in the fitness space Oftentimes we see this in women who are getting their bodies too lean. If you get too lean, your body doesn't wanna be fertile.
Starting point is 00:54:29 So you'll lose your period. If you work out too hard, too often, the same thing will happen. Your body will start to not wanna be fertile and you'll lose your period. In those cases, increasing calories, not being too low in proteins, fats, or carbs, so you don't wanna be low in any of them. You wanna bump your calories, not being too low in proteins, fats, or carbs. So you don't want to be low in any of them.
Starting point is 00:54:47 You want to bump your calories. You want to focus on recovery type movements. You want to get good sleep. And the type of exercise you should focus on is traditional strength training and be very careful of overworking. And it can take time. If you do that over time, you'll gain a little bit of body fat, you'll gain a little bit of muscle, a little bit of strength,
Starting point is 00:55:07 because you're eating extra calories, your body now feels like it's a good environment to be fertile, and you'll start to see your period come back in it. And with the women that I have worked with in this situation, it works like clockwork. But it can take a while. It's taken as, for some clients, you know, I remember one girl in particular, took us about five months. It was five months of this. And she
Starting point is 00:55:28 was somebody who had gone through extreme dieting over and over again. She did have a past of eating disorder, but she was working with a therapist. And so when she came to see me, me and her therapist together, worked together. And I did put her on nutrition plan that had her bumping her calories slowly. So it's like a reverse diet. I had her eat more fats, in this particular case, she was eating too low of fat, and she only trained only twice a week.
Starting point is 00:55:53 We did two days a week, full body workouts, four or five exercises in each workout. These barbell movements, like squats and dead lifts and overhead presses, and one and a half to two minute rest in between sets. And after about five months of doing this her period came back and she hadn't had it for a couple of years. Yeah, I think this is definitely a client that you have to be extra careful and a generic prescription would look very similar to what's outside.
Starting point is 00:56:18 I would say two to three times a week, three times being max amount of times we're lifting. We're probably training at a 60 to 80% intensity, so we're not going hell hard. I'm eliminating any sort of cardio that she may be doing, and we're gonna do walking instead of any sort of intense cardio. The major focus is getting all the macronutrients, so not doing anything, we're eliminating a carb, we're eliminating protein, or limiting fats,
Starting point is 00:56:42 we're doing a more balanced way of eating. My goal is to slowly increase her calories. Can I manipulate her training program, manipulate that how much steps and movement she's doing to cancel out the increase in calories? But the ultimate goal is I'm trying to get this lady to eat more food and a balanced meal plan, limit stress, focus on sleep. That's really what it looks like. And to Sal's point, it could be something
Starting point is 00:57:08 that turns around pretty quick. I've been able to take someone like this and literally turn it around in less than a month's time. And then I've also had some people who's taken six months to a year. So it just depends on how much they've been hammering their body for how long, for how long it takes to recover. Yeah, it's hard to, because it's,
Starting point is 00:57:24 I mean, this is definitely a psychological barrier that you have to kind of really gradually work your way through in lots of conversations in between to get them in the head space that it's okay to do less. You know, and like a lot of times, like if it's a client like this, it tends to be sort of that person that wants to do extra and wants to do a lot more cardio and wants to make sure
Starting point is 00:57:52 that this body fat isn't gonna come back no matter what. And so it's just really trying to bring them back to the most healthy approach for their body, getting strength back, focusing more on the metrics of what we're doing in the gym, other attributes, sleep, all these types of things, and then adjusting the nutrition accordingly and just slowly bumping those cows back.
Starting point is 00:58:14 Yeah, and sometimes you just got to gain body fat sometimes. I mean, you know, you're walking around at 15, 16% body fat. That's good point. As a female, sometimes it's like, okay, we got to get you in the 20, in the 20% range. Yeah, the low 20s, 20, 21, 22. Let's just getting your body fat percentage up in a healthy way. And then poof like magic, you know, they get their period back. Next question is from Lance Zach. For people working out in
Starting point is 00:58:38 the morning, is it better to eat breakfast before or after the workout? This is a really popular question. Yeah, you know, I don't, I work out every morning. I worked out this morning at five. You work out, you work out fast, did though, right? Yeah, five forty five. I was in the garage lifting weights. So I work out between five, five forty five or six thirty is when I'll start my morning workout.
Starting point is 00:58:57 And I never eat before because if I did, I'd have to wake up, you know, I'd have to eat breakfast at four a.m. In order to work out at 5.45 and feel okay, cause I don't like to eat to work out right after I eat. But here's the thing a lot of people forget, if you work out first thing in the morning, it's not like you've had no food ever.
Starting point is 00:59:13 The food you had the day before, you're still storing some of that energy. Yeah, if I had a good, I should be at a big dinner. Yeah, if I have a good dinner, I'm gonna be okay in the morning. But there's a large, there's a really, really big variance here
Starting point is 00:59:24 between individuals. You know, I've worked with some clients that if they don't eat a couple hours before they work out, they feel terrible. So no matter what time they work out, they have to have some food in their stomach, you know, an hour and a half to two hours before they work out.
Starting point is 00:59:40 Me personally, I'm okay, I'm perfectly fine working, I'll work out fasted completely, I'll not eat at all and work out at noon and be totally fine. So it really does depend, what makes you feel the best? The only challenge with having to eat breakfast before you work out, sometimes it means that you would end up compromising your sleep because if you, like me, like for example, if I work out at six, then that means I wake up at five, but if I want to eat breakfast, I mean, I have to work out, you know, wake up at four thirty or four fifteen. I don't think that's a good trade.
Starting point is 01:00:11 I think sleep is more important than, you know, having the food before you work out. Well, the truth is you're not getting any value from that breakfast unless it is a minimum of an hour before that work. So it doesn't like, so why? Why have breakfast unless you can get it in hour more than an hour before it takes that long It takes that long for your body to digest it and then utilize it So it's not even if you ate you know 30 minutes before a workout You're not utilizing that fuel yet that's still getting converted over into glucose
Starting point is 01:00:39 Your body is not using that for your fuel in your workout So you're still running off of last night's fuel anyway. So unless you're getting up more than an hour to eat before you could do your workout, I would almost always recommend it to somebody to eat afterwards. I wonder if it's more psychological than anything else. Like somebody who hasn't fasted before
Starting point is 01:00:59 and just hasn't really understood like the signals of like, you know, having how to navigate through that. They're just so used to having food before they do something. It's like this conditioning, it's this programming that they've set their body up for where, you know, I have to have food
Starting point is 01:01:14 before I do anything rigorous. But again, like there's variances, and I'm sure there's people that don't do very well when they don't have food at a time, but I'm just wonder, I put that out there if you've never fasted before. Maybe this is the type of person who should really introduce that.
Starting point is 01:01:29 This is how you do. Well, not only that, it also matters like, okay, to like what Sal was saying, right? So most people, you're probably utilizing the fuel that you ate at dinner than I before, but if you do eat a very light dinner and you eat it at six o'clock or seven o'clock, there's a good chance that you've tapped into most of that
Starting point is 01:01:46 So you're your your fuel levels are lower So but then there's benefits of burning fat when you go to work out because of that So there's benefits for you not feeling but I could see like if you're somebody just you don't have the energy You get lightheaded or you have did if you're giving me that feedback as a client Then yeah, I'm gonna have you have probably have do a liquid, like I'll have you do a shake, I would have you do, because that your body will break that down, digest that faster, and so if you're giving me feedback as a client that man, Adam, I have to work out in the morning,
Starting point is 01:02:14 and I just, your blood sugar drops. Right, I'm, yeah, light headed, or I just, I can't get any energy to lift, and maybe that's because you're eating a 400 calorie or a 300 calorie dinner at six or seven. And so by the time five, six clock rolls around, you have tapped all that. You have a glass of juice, you know, 30 minutes before. Yeah, that's what I used to do. I had clients that I would train at 7 a.m. And they would, you know, there was a couple of them that would say that, like, well, I get a little light-headed.
Starting point is 01:02:39 And so I tell them, hey, drink a glass of orange juice on the way here. And that solved it right there. It was really easy, just eight ounce glass of orange juice gave them what they needed so that they weren't dizzy during the workout. But the huge individual variance here, but I have found that the vast majority of people that I've worked with are perfectly fine. All the challenges and difficulty that they find
Starting point is 01:03:01 with the morning workout did not have to do with the fact that they didn't need, had to do with the fact that it was an early morning workout. So, yeah. Then they would eat everything moving. Yeah, it's like, then they'd eat and feel better, but why? Because now you're working out an hour later. So it's the morning part that usually causes the challenge.
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