Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1404: The Importance of Hand Position When Exercising the Triceps, What to Do If You Are Always Hungry, the Fallacy That Partial Reps Help Save Joints & More

Episode Date: October 17, 2020

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about the advantages of using a supinated grip over a pronated grip for tricep exercises, the validity of training with partial reps or a limited range of motion to save joints, strategies to deal with a big appetite, and the pros & cons of chiropractic care. Mind Pump’s favorite comic book heroes and villains. (4:38) Mind Pump reminisces on their childhood collections. (7:30) Wild wildlife stories with Mind Pump. (14:43) Qantas Airways ‘flight to nowhere’. (21:26) Mind Pump’s Halloween plans. (25:10) Welcome back Mind Pump sponsor Caldera! (26:05) Predictions for the US election. (29:21) Fun Facts with Justin: Do you believe in superstitions? (33:10) Get your own Pluto Pillow! (38:25) Strange Science with Sal. (40:30) Kids will blow your mind! (43:03) Mind Pump Investments. (46:19) #Quah question #1 – When is it more advantageous to use a supinated grip over a pronated grip for tricep exercises? It’s obviously risker when doing exercises like skull crushers, but does it hit the tri’s at a different angle? (48:23) #Quah question #2 – What would you tell a client who was told they only have to train with partial reps or a limited range of motion to save joints? (54:03) #Quah question #3 – I have a big appetite and I always feel hungry. What are some strategies you have used to help? Are there foods you have used to hack big appetites? (1:00:25) #Quah question #4 – There is a lot of skepticism on chiropractic therapy and its origins. What are your opinions and do you think it helps? (1:04:56) Related Links/Products Mentioned October Special: MAPS Anabolic and No BS 6-Pack Formula Watch: Mountain lion stalks trail runner for six minutes, until… Qantas Airways 'flight to nowhere' that sold out in minutes takes off Visit Caldera Lab for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code “mindpump” at checkout for the discount** Trump or Biden? Peruvian shamans try to predict U.S. election winner Tourist returns stolen artifacts to Pompeii after experiencing bad luck The Rise of Superman: Decoding the Science of Ultimate Human Performance Visit Pluto Pillow for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Promo code “MINDPUMP” at checkout for 10% off** Tennessee teenager's homemade fusion reactor lands Guinness record Popular video game platform Roblox announces public offering that could value the company at $8 billion Peloton will leap another 14% as new products open the door to 5 million potential subscribers, BofA says Build Your Triceps with Angles – Mind Pump TV Effect of range of motion on muscle strength and thickness Catching Up and Food and Stress Management » Paul Chek's Blog Mind Pump's Response to Joe Rogan Episode #984 with Yvette d'Entremont Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Justin Brink DC (@dr.justinbrink)  Instagram Dr. Jordan Shallow (@the_muscle_doc)  Instagram MoveU's (@moveu)  Instagram

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this episode of Mind Pump the World's Top, ranked Fitness Health and Entertainment podcast, we answered a lot of fitness and health questions that were asked by listeners and viewers just like you. Now the first 45 minutes of this episode though was an intro portion. This is where we talk about current events. We mentioned studies, we have a lot of fun after that we answer the fitness questions.

By the way, you can go to MindPumppodcast.com, everything's time stamped so you can fast forward to your favorite part. And it's spanned. But here's what went down in today's episode. We started by talking about comic book heroes and villains, that's our good times. Then we talked about our childhood collections. Justin and I were big nerds.

Adam was cool. Oh, Mr. Cool guy. Then we talked about the, what is it? The mountain lion that was chasing the hiker video that went viral and we talked about all these wild animal stories. Yeah. I talk about Quantis, the Australian airline company that sold out on a flight to nowhere, kind of crazy.

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So again, maps and a ball, no BS6 pack formula, both of them combined for one payment under $60. Just go to mapsoctober.com. That's mapsMAPSOctober.com. Do you guys like comic books when you were kids? At all? Of course, dude.

You did too? Yeah, Marvel or DC? Marvel. Yeah. Yeah, it was a big Marvel guy. You know, I read, it was a big Marvel guy. You know, I read, it was, the Punisher War journals were big for me and then also Wolverine. Those were my two guys.

It was all the angsty ones. You know, I just didn't have like all the superpowers. I feel like DC had like some weird like superheroes and villains that didn't make like like the villains on Batman. Some of them are like the riddler. What's his, yeah, the riddle you, the silly riddles that you can't figure out. Ah, like get out of here.

My son is on, he likes to go on Reddit, which is something I don't, I'm not really supportive of, but whatever. Anyway, there's this whole like page of crappy superpowers. So these guys are kids or whatever. Right, superpowers that would suck. So like, for example, if you had the ability to run through walls 50% of the time.

50%. And you didn't know. Exactly. Like, let's try this. The power to shit and someone else's pants. That was another one that he had. Wow. So we were making up these superpowers.

Actually, that would be awesome. Yeah, just across the roof. Ah, he's point in life. Yeah, I do. Anyway, I loved reading some of those. But yeah, I was a huge comic book fan. Oh, the incredible Hulk was my- Yeah, you know it's funny.

I remember I had a client that was like really into it and he was trying to make the case for Aquaman for me, for forever. For a superhero. He was like, yeah, I know, it's funny. I remember I had a client that was like really into it and he was trying to make the case for Aquaman for me for forever. For a single year. Yeah, I know, right? And you're saying like he's like the most powerful if you really like read. He's right. Yeah, because he like mind controls and like all this other stuff. Aquaman is the one we're getting all nerd here.

I'm sorry. Aquaman has waiting for you to ask me about the comic book. He's quiet. Aquaman and friends growing up. I to ask me about the comic book. Yeah, he's quiet. Yeah, Aquaman. I had a friend's career. I had a social one. Yeah, I'll probably. I tried to bounce back.

No, the Aquaman is the only, is one of the only superheroes in DC that can rival Superman in terms of strength. Okay. A lot of people don't know that. Yeah, you didn't know that did you? Fun fact right there. What do you mean? Hold on, I was saying, you were a skinny kid, insecure kid.

You didn't read comic books and fantasies being grown on. Hey, I was still fucking cool just because I was all those things I was making. I wasn't cool. Wow. No, I didn't really think that as a kid. No, of course not, dude. That was not like that. That's what made me cool, right?

It was the fact that I was... Oh my God. He can't help himself. It's too cool. No, no, no, no. I didn't know I wasn't into stuff. I, the, you know, the kids that were playing the Dungeons and Dragons and at lunch time and shit like that or were reading magazines.

I was playing sports, dude. I played, I played a lot of stuff that I didn't even play, right? So like, I didn't play baseball on a team. Oh, I see. But we would, I would be playing baseball if so, we were at a park and I had buddies that were playing, we're, I'm playing. So I played every sport I could play. Did you ever collect anything like baseball car?

Yeah, no, I, okay, so I collected a lot of little things. All right, so you remember, Micro Machines? I collected Micro Machines when I was really little. That's kind of not that cool. What? Yeah. Micro Machines with a shit with a, I was, did I used to make like elaborate garages

and like things for them with Legos. So the nerdiest thing I could think of that I got into for. Micro machines, my God, what a flashback. Yeah. You guys remember the joke? Yeah, yeah. So on the, nobody's gonna know this on our show

because nobody, I'm sure most people are not old. But, yeah, but on the commercial they say like, if it doesn't say micro machines, it's not the real thing. Remember that? That's the real thing. So remember the joke. Yeah, the dick joke. Yes. Yeah, micro machines under dick like no It's not the real thing. Yeah, yeah, so that was Sorry, I had to play old joke. Yeah That was that was that I think the nerdiest thing that I collected was pugs. I did that for you did

Pog yeah for about two or three years. I was into that modern day Pokemon whole last second That's not your generation. That was my my brother's generation. Was it he's younger? How much younger is your brother? How old is he well see my brother is six years younger than me. Oh, that's a lot. So yeah, so you're You don't need a couple years. Yeah, so I'm what two three years older years high school doing with no no This was a sixth grade. I was doing it six seventh six and seventh by eighth for sure in high school doing a potter? No, no, no, this was a sixth grade I was doing it. Six seventh, six and seventh, for sure by high school, I was not doing it, even before high, it was about eighth grade. So the summer of eighth grade is probably when I stopped doing it,

because at the time I had a girlfriend, I was like, What did you do with Pog, I didn't know? Pogs were the, so you used to, they were like these little cardboard, little fucking things that you, Like tidally winks, kind of. Like discs. Yeah, like discs.

Yeah, and then you had like a slammer, right? Oh, there we are. Yeah, and they had value to them, right? So there was moreons that were more rare. And then you would play somebody else and you stack them up, and I can't remember the exact rules, but I know the stack can get higher and higher, and then each guy gets a turn to hit him and then flip him,

and if they flip him, you get to keep him. I remember that. So it was a big deal to, to, if you if you're into collecting them and if you had tons of them like, yeah, we are a brilliant. So, so this was a, I went on this kick for a couple of years. That's probably him. If I could think of like the nerdiest thing that I've had. And then it was beanie babies.

Yeah. That was the next follow up. Yeah. No, actually I was into garbage pale kids. Yes. Okay. That was a real young though. That was a young, real young. Do you think garbage pale kids would even make it today?

Oh yes. Yeah, I feel like there's not politically correct. I know, but that's why they'd be popular. I bought a book. I bought one of their books that had like all the cards in it. Look at these things, they're terrible. That's why they're awesome. Yeah, there's no way, Doug, are you on images, Doug?

So I believe that this stuff like this will make a resurgence. Don't you think this stuff is coming back? Oh yeah, it needs to. Yeah, because you can't say like anything that's gonna hurt anybody's feelings. Hold on, go up, Doug, let's draw it. Go all the way to the top, scroll down just a little bit so we can see the price.

Look how much that one's valued. Garbage, pale, kid. A thousand dollars for that one. One card. Skit's so fran. What? Skit's so fran so it's a kid who's got skits a Fran you I there's no way that they get away so politely yeah a thousand dollars dude

That's what makes us so expensive on eBay look at that tops garbage pale kids first edition 95,000 dollars wow there's no way in I should have kept mine what a idiot I had so many I think did you guys have any named after you was there like yeah, there's one for all of us Yeah, there's I have like three I posted that a long time ago. I tried to like find you guys like add something Something Adam something Sal. Yeah, I forget what the you know, they made fun of it was Adam bomb Adam I think Adam bomb had exploded exploded and then I don't know the one for Sal, Salvatore, what was it? Yeah, I don't know.

It was something, I think it was Sal. Slippery Sal. Sliming Sal. Sliathering Sal. No, no, he's gonna look it up. Doug, put Sal, put at garbage-pale kids. And then the name, that's all you have to do is do garbage-pale kid and then say, there's Adam Bond, Adam.

That was a quite common one, I remember that one. Yeah. Where the kids had to explode. I had that one in pretty good. Yeah, put Salvatore or Sal Let's see what this one is. Yeah, I don't remember one being Sal. That would have been cool. No, there's no you had one right there I mean, even if they made it salad Sal salad. That's super lame. Wow So inventing salad

Works for you the number one thing kids said with my name was salad. Yeah, that was it. Oh, he's selling. That's super original. That isn't funny. I used to collect. That's good. Sad actually. So just I guess I guess you can kind of like there's like a bit of an nerdiness scale going on here. Yeah, I did collect stamps at one point. Yeah, come on, bro. I had stamps. That feeds right into your political side of it. Yes, it is like a yeah, you collected stamps You ran for office in school. I collect I know I didn't and never know dude That was so I hated that back then see that surprises me the kid would get on stage and then they'd say something like You know, you know five minutes more recess if you elect me and so the kids in art That was I remember thinking

That was a cool thing to be in our in our school was cool to do that It wasn't like a dorky thing to be yeah, we're office. Oh, we made fun of them. Oh, yes You know, it was like all the all the kids that were all the popular kids ran for office Just it was an anarchist I was all over the place, dude. I mean, I hung out. I played Dungeons and Dragons. And I played sports at the same time. Wow.

Yeah. You were conflicted nerds. I was really, yeah, I didn't know where to live. Yeah. Just all over the place. Justin's the nerd who you want. If you're a nerd, you want to be friends with him. Yeah, stick out for the nerds.

Because then he would beat other people up. But if you're like, if you're just like a pure pure door, you know, you had no value then I mean No, you can have value Yeah, you'll be able to help you out with your math homework That's right. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, they reciprocate dude. There's only one time I ever did something to a kid that I to this day I regret so bad like I feel so bad for doing it. And I know it just, it's like one. I've got many things. I, there was this kid who, he threw a basketball

on my cousins, I had a cousin that was younger than me. So he threw a basketball on my cousins face and my cousin cried. My cousin was this chubby kid growing up and he got picked on. Although now he's giant. He's like 65 and 320, something like that. Whatever.

Have you seen red real quick? Oh yeah, so my cousin cried and I I remember I didn't see what happened, and afterwards my cousin's face was all red, and when I'm gonna happen, oh, so and so through a basketball at my face, so I'm like, I felt like I'm the justice guy, right? I'm gonna go pay him back. So I walked up to this kid as he was changing,

and I did, I watched too many Godfather movies, I swear to God, and I hit him in the ribs, how hard, and I said, and I said this is for dominant KURSH and he fell on the floor and he did one of these things where he went I can't breathe The wind down yeah, and I'm like oh shit. Oh, no, I felt how a bad, you know So if you're listening right now, sorry about that. I mean do you remember who the kid was? I don't remember his name dude I just remember he was like pulling a shirt off

So he's like super vulnerable arms up in the air. Oh, yeah, and I just went behind it. This is for dominant You were a little bit of a bully guy. No, what you know, I felt justified right? Yeah, that was a boy always do I can't really bad wrong dude. Did you guys see the video of the I can't really tell you're wrong. Dude, did you guys see the video of the, what is it called, the mountain lion? Yes. Oh my God.

Yes, terrifying. That was hellless care you do. So the story behind it, apparently the guy was hiking and it was a mother mountain lion with her cub. Well, he ran across the, you saw the cub right at the beginning, right? Yes. Yes, so you see the cub and he's like,

so that's what made him pull his fake camera out. It was the video of the cub. Oh. And then all of a sudden the mom comes out of the bushes and you see him like, oh shit. You see a cub, you keep going quickly. Yeah, you get the hell out. So two things, first off, when you watch the video,

you don't realize how well they blend in with their environment. When you watch the video, you kind of have to really pay attention to see the cub and the mom or whatever. But dude, that is... How much do mountain lions typically weigh? What are they? Like 150 pounds?

I'm sure, yeah. Maybe 190 or something, yeah. That'll shred you like your... Yeah, but it's pure muscle and it's all like, you know, insane-o, like, strength that they have. It's a wild animal. Yeah, yeah, we're weak-sauce. Yeah.

I'm not gonna wrestle with it. I was, like, unblutely impressed with the guy's ability to record the whole animal. Yeah, yeah, we're weak sauce. Yeah, I'm not gonna rest I was like unblutely impressed with the guys ability to record the whole thing. Yeah, like he recorded the whole thing as he's backpedaling in this I don't know there's no way I would do that no no no look at that female 64 to 140 pound It's basically no bigger than a big dog. Yeah, but it would just tear your face off Yeah, while you know with one hand probably But the thing was as he was backing up because obviously the mom was trying to scare face off. Yeah, while, you know, with one hand probably. But the thing was, as he was backing up, because obviously the mom was trying to scare him away. Yeah.

I'm reading people's comments who are experienced and look, I'm thinking myself, like, what are you supposed to do? All I know is, appear big. Supposed to stand tall and not turn around. You could tell he was trying that. Yes. He was doing like bear sounds.

Yeah. What's it working? Oh no. You just gotta keep moving. He was doing the like bear sounds. Yeah. It wasn't working so much. You just gotta keep moving. He was doing the scared growl. Yeah. No. No.

But someone's like, oh, you should pick up a rock. But then I read underneath and there was a guy who's like a mountain ranger or whatever. And he says, if you do it quickly, because if you crouch down, then the power's. That's an opportunity. Because they think you're doing the same thing, right? If you're crouching down,

you probably think you're gonna pound him, so he pounces you first. You just look smaller. Well, yeah, yeah, you just look like you dominate you in that position. Oh, what would you do if you had your kids? Then you're on that trail. You put them behind you and you just keep walking back. Yeah. Dude, that is so cool. Well, that's what happened. Remember, a while back, and he's in Mountain View

that one of them actually grabbed a kid that was kind of struggling behind everybody that was hiking and just snatched them and then the dad had to go wrestle you know the kid loose. Yeah it's the story I tell my kids make them speed up. Yeah. Stop complaining. I pulled the news report. Yeah you've got to probably speed up. This is what happens kids. Listen kids, I live with, but I'm not very fast. If you grab your totally real life teaches lessons, right? Yeah. Didn't you say Justin that you're seeing more like wildlife and stuff

because of the fires and stuff? Yeah, that's what I, I mean, and that's my guess. They're coming down. They're coming down. There's a lot more and there's, it's interesting interesting because, I mean, there's always certain noises outside. I'm like, oh, I wonder what animal that is. When I'm outside at night, especially taking the dogs out for the last time to go potty and all that,

and there's been these weird noises, like weird birds that are coming through. There's been wrestling in the bushes and I'm just like, man, I should probably do this quickly, you know What do you what wildlife do you see by your house? What's it was common? There's like wooded owls. There's I mean there's lots of turkeys There's deer probably deer. There's mountain lions. Have you seen a mountain line? I have you have yeah It was on my neighbor's camera

It walked through his backyard. Dude. Yeah, so, and that was one actually that Courtney came back late and was walking and she said she had felt like a presence, you know, and was just like kind of scared and like jetted into the house. And that was like the next day we saw that it was a mountain line on the neighbor's camera. Yeah, so I went down a rabbit hole

when I saw that video, the mountain lion. It was one video where this kid was hiking with his dad in a freaking grizzly bear. It's up on the top of the hill and just starts walking down towards the kid and the dad's like, okay, walk slowly. Just keep coming towards me, walk slowly. And there's a freaking grizzly bear like literally coming closer and closer. That to me would be like one of the, even with a cat, right? So it's a hundred and forty pound cat.

I feel like I've got a chance of survival with that. A fucking grizzly bear. You got no chance. Nothing, no chance. No, nothing. That is, to me, waste care. Like you said, you bring up your, like if it was me, my kids, and then that,

that mountain line, I would probably charge it. Just, I'd hope to God that I can fucking get it somewhere with it, you know what I'm saying? And let my kids get free and run somewhere and they live and survive. And hopefully I can fight it free. But a bear, you don't do that. There's no way I have to charge in a bear.

They can help me. Just talk to your kid real quick. Listen, buddy, close your eyes. We're about to go to sleep. Yeah, I mean, there ain't nothing. You're so strong. Grizzly bears can break the back of a moose, I read, which if you guys ever seen a moose, a moose is massive.

It's over a ton, right? Yeah, massive. That's over a ton, right? Yeah, massive. That's how strong bears are. Yeah, so that sent me down a rabbit hole of like animals in the wild and then animals escaping zoos. And then I read some news articles about recently, there was some escapes. There was a beaver that escaped in New Mexico.

That's nothing to do with that. Oh no, escape of the beaver. Yeah. But how weird would that be, right? You're walking around San Jose and you see a beaver. It's like, what the hell's going on? And then an imu in Florida, apparently, escaped. What do those look like?

What's an imu? Emo looks like a alpeca, is it? No. Emo, imu's like an ostrich. A ostrich, that's what I'm gonna say. Oh, okay. Yeah, it's like a big ostrich. Which, I'd be weird if you saw that kind of stuff. That one show on Netflix, the Tiger King, I had no idea there were that many lions and

tigers that people owned. I know, that was an enlightening to see how many people actually were, you know, storing these exotic animals all over the world, like, or all over America. It was like, wow, I didn't even know they were here. Yeah, and I guess there's like big snakes that people will encounter in Florida, and a lot of them, or people had them as pets, they get too big, and then they let them go.

Yeah. They'll just drive to the Everglades or whatever. Yeah, it wasn't like boa constrictors or like, yeah, like pythons or something, like took over the landscape, yeah, they got free. In fact, there was two, because again, I was on this rabbit hole of reading these art books.

I've never seen that. Two guys in Florida found the biggest Python ever recorded in Florida, 18 feet, nine inches long. Was there a human in there? No, oh God, dude. No, I hope that's pretty big. Yeah, that'd be, yeah. It was used eating, it was feasting.

That would be not so good. No. Anyway, more interesting news. Did you guys know? So there's a I think it's an Australian airline company. Let me read. Let me look at the name here. Kind of interesting. So this Australian airline company Quantus. Have you guys heard of Quantus? Yes, definitely. Have you seen Rainman? No, never had a crash. Oh, right. Definitely. Yeah, that, definitely. Have you seen Rainman? No, never had a crash. Oh, right.

Definitely. Yeah, that's right. That's right, Doug. Definitely. Yeah, yeah. So, Quantus came out with a flight, like this offer to try and generate revenue. And it was a flight to nowhere. Okay.

Yes. So, here's what happens. Remember, because of lockdown and stuff, stuff people are like they need something to do I guess you get on the plane you don't know where you're going the plane takes off. Oh, it's worse than that plane takes off and then seven hours later lands back where it was working in place So it just you just the thing of getting in the plane and going and coming back. It just does a loop What people paid for that sold out? What? Yeah, dude, it's sold out.

No, okay, they did they know they have gone. Did they know that was going to happen? No, yeah, it wasn't a surprise. But a surprise plate ticket. That's what I'm playing. I mean, that's more that's more interesting to me. Like, if you go, hey, listen, we're we're going to take you somewhere seven hours away. We're not going to tell you where I'm like, okay, this sounds kind of interesting. It was a nice little hush for the airline. You know, yeah, we're just going to run some lights I'm like, okay, this sounds kinda interesting. It was a nice little hush for the airline. Yeah, we're just gonna run some lights. No, it was called the Great Southern Land Scenic Flight. So it says, reignite the joy of flying and take off

on a great Southern land, Scenic Flight, sight sea, iconic destinations across Australia from the sky, where there are no border restrictions. It's sold out, you can see it for like a second. So you literally fly around and then come back and people bought people like flying that much. Flying sucks. Yeah. It's not a great experience. Big old fart box. I do remember as a kid that wanting to fly a fart box. A huge fart box. Everybody in there just let them go. You're the one that's doing it. I'm just saying everybody does me.

Yeah. Come on guys. Just the crushes the guy. He's just like, it's worse than an elevator's heat. He catches like a small weapon. He's like, oh, yeah, someone else is in the air. Oh, that's what's happening right now, check this out. I know every time we go on a flight, oh, he's eating that big bag of peanuts. Here we go.

It's just like a big ass Pringle can in the air. Dude, everybody's letting him go. But they sold out though. That's stupid. Well, you know what though? I don't get it. You gotta give it to them for the brilliant on their part. I mean, helicopter rides, at least you're like,

you know, it's an experience and you're seeing things up close. Like that just to me seems like it's lame. Well, I'm playing this cramped. Yeah, but you know what? Consider the context of what's going on. Australia in particular had some of the harshest lockdown rules. Oh, they did, it's right. Yes.

So I'm sure people like- So it's like a little moment of freedom. Yeah, I get the fuck out of here. Yeah. And like, oh, buy a plane ticket and fly around and come back for seven hours. It must be bad if that sounds exciting. I'm down, you know what I mean? Let's do this.

Yeah, like the drive-ins in San Jose, I know they opened up before other movies. Oh, did you go? You were talking about going? I was going to, but apparently they get packed because people just, they just want to get out. No, yeah, yeah, I totally, I can totally see that. Like, I was actually looking for that. Santa Cruz had just finally opened there,

so yeah, I'm looking at going to see what's in there. And there's no good movies along. Nothing, that's the problem. They've delayed it all till next year, like everything. Are they really? Yeah, because the one I was looking forward to the most was Top Guns Maverick and all that. And they push it to next year.

You know, lots of the big ones and Dune and all that. They've moved to next year. So it's like, I'm excited. That's what we're making for Max for Halloween is he's gonna be Maverick from Top Gun. Is he really that's awesome? Yeah, that's so cute. I know, I know.

Tessa, I'm bummed it in coming. Now, are you gonna, I did this with my kids up until, oh God, I wanna say until my son was like maybe nine and so my daughter would have been five or whatever, we would dress up altogether. So like one year my son was Batman and I was Robin. Kinda funny because I'm bigger than him, right?

Yeah. We did Mario Luigi, we did, you know, the whole fan. Are you doing that? Yeah, no, I'm gonna, I'll get dressed up also. I'm not a big fan of that, but I'm dooster. I don't know what Katrina, she's like in charge of that. That's, I'm like, my deal is I'll do it, right? So I'm like, all right, I'll dress up if that's the case,

but you gotta put it all together. So it's's been I think that she's got me coming, she's got goose and then I'll shave everything off with my mustache and then I'll have the full jumpers and everything. So yeah, well, that'll be for all. What about the dogs? You put the dogs in? All no, just dress up your dog as a, those guys are too much. Tom Cap, whatever. It's a fighter jet. Hey, can I think a quick commercial break? I wanna tell you guys something I'm so excited about. So we had a partner last year that we talked about quite a bit, Caldera.

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dude, when are you gonna get Caldera back? Because I haven't stopped using this product. That's the one you always put on your face. Yes, dude. I, it's my go-to now, like for my psoriasis and then my face. So both, I like using the serum on my face and then I like using it on my dry skin spots with my psoriasis and it helps definitely keep it down. And then I'm not using all of these chemicals, right?

So, like, if I go to the dermatologist, they give you the creams with steroids in it or I can do the shots. Not even the good ones either. Yeah, and so, yeah, right. That's a good stuff at all. And so I'm always trying to minimize how much I use it because that stuff bleaches your skin and it kills everything.

So it's like, it's not ideal long-term. It's like a last case scenario scenario. You want to use that? So I much prefer using something that's more natural if I can find something that helps tamp it down a little bit But nothing works like that. I mean, that's so I'm still always forced to go back to the creams But once we got introduced to that that Caldera serum and I started using that. It's all natural Yes I remember you showed me the bottle and I used it a couple times. I have my skin is pretty I don't typically put anything on my skin. But if I do I can tell when for the most part

I'll break out or whatever and what their stuff. I can definitely use it. I am like gator skin. Yeah. Yeah. It's like crocodile skin. Yeah. You need to pour some on your skin. Yeah. I just have it. I haven't made that a priority ever. So, you know, maybe I'll experiment. I mean, then you extend your elbow, it's like, and that'll block the trisket somehow. Oh, girls, that's so gross. They call it antiquing. You know, that's gross.

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and then on your shin. Yeah, yeah. Is that the most? Yeah, those are the main areas where my friends about what we don't see. Yeah. Yes, that's it. Sorry.

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At first glance, you're like, damn, that's a little bottle, that's really expensive, but it goes wrong. And I mean, this is true, too. I'm not just saying this because you're talking about a sponsor. Your skin is nice. No, it looks healthy. Yeah, it looks very, what's the word? I want to use.

Shiny, healthy, yeah, youthful. Youthful skin, plump. It's a long time. The word supple. Yeah, thank you. Thank you. I don't use that word, though. That's the first word.

Yeah, yeah. Hey, so I got some interesting predictions for the election oh, okay, so you know, the they have polls that go out and they say, oh, 50% chance, 40% chance or whatever. I think we have one that might be the most accurate. Is this a sourced ordamos moment? No, this is a good one. Good prediction. So they did some they had some ayahuasca shaman. What? It takes them Ayuhasca and then dump out the leaves and then do their parts.

Oh, this is gonna be really accurate. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean, mother Aya, you know, she just tells you everything. They're acting so. So apparently there were four shaman that came out with their predictions and two of them predicted Biden would win. The other two predicted Trump

But this was a thing they actually did this they actually had shaman shaman. Yeah, try to predict I don't know what to believe I see all could polls on each side that are just way way that is what's gonna happen And then we just we're stuck, like in this weird purgatory, it's like this year. Yeah, they're like, oh, civil war, that's what's gonna happen. Oh yeah. What was the, what was the stat though,

South like if a president is going for his second term and he gets approved by the, Oh, it's approval rating? Yeah. Approval ratings above like 47% are rare. And he, there was a poll that had Trump. And the, the, the the it's not approval rating sorry the question is are you better off than you were four years ago and

I think it was like fifty something percent said yes which is a high number for that particular poll so that was I mean for the Trump campaign that was very good news but every other poll has Biden in like single or double digit leads. So, but here's the problem. The polls were notoriously off the last time too. It's a weird, weird thing. Now, is that just the last two elections? Or has it been that way for a long time?

Are they been that far off? You know, the Hillary thing was that the biggest surprise we've ever seen. Well, so what happened, and this has only happened in, I think it's only happened four or five times. So four or five elections in American history, where the popular vote didn't match the electoral college vote. So the polls accurately predicted the popular vote, but they did not predict the electoral college vote,

which is what elects a president, it's the electoral college that elects a president. So, so that's the argument. The argument is, no, the polls were accurate, but the, because the popular vote did go to Hillary, but Trump won because he got the Electoral College vote. I don't know. I have no idea. I feel like it's like Rotten Tomatoes versus the critics, you know, or that's the, you get the voting of the people that are watching the show versus the actual critics of the show, how they're always so far off. Pretty far off from each other.

Yeah, what I don't like is that both sides are doing this whole voter fraud thing that they're talking about. I don't like that because it's just just put mistrust in the general public's eye. But don't you feel like, though, this is one of those elections that no matter what happens, the other side is going to.

Yeah, that somebody's going to complain. The other side's going to claim that. It's been like that for a long time. People, I don't know, you know, people remember Bush and Gour. Gour. Yeah, the Supreme Court had to decide that one. Was that a Florida?

That was the Florida's gig, right? Yeah, and you know, here's why you should never, unless you want to destroy the whole thing, which okay, maybe someone does want to do that, but you don't want to so distrust in the process of electing officials, regardless if you're on the right or the left, because once people lose trust, then why are we having elections? Then it becomes, you have someone who's declared a winner, nobody believes it. Oh, that's not a good position to be in.

We definitely don't want to do that. So I don't like that they're both doing that. Politics get real ugly. No, I can't stand that. Do you guys believe in curses? No, I'm just going to hold that up. You're just asking very nice transition right there. Thank you. So, yeah, you know what? Probably the IOS could talk a bit of better time to transition. You know, I could have, I could have thrown in there. That might have been more smooth. But yeah, no, because we talked before about like our belief system on like ghosts and all that,

you guys gave me a hard time. So this lady basically was in Pompeii. She had stolen some artifacts like 15 years ago or whatever, but like brings them back to the site and claims that she's had 15 years of like the worst luck she's ever had in her entire, like every bad thing that could happen to her. And so she just attributes it to her taking these artifacts

and there's cursed attached to it. Well, you know what I do believe is what we talk a lot about it, like the power of the brain and thought. And we have some of them. Have you think your curse? Yeah, guilt. I have 100% dude, I think that mindset is, we talk about how powerful mindset is

You know, it's funny. Some are created to yourself easily the most superstitious people in America at least are athletes That's I could totally say that. Oh, yeah, because everything is ritualistic And I do everything. Oh, they're notoriously superstitious but wearing the right socks putting on the right shoe at the right time and oh, I got to make sure I touch the thing before I talk about that though and like rise a Superman the importance of that right so you're trying to create flow like you and part of creating that is Getting in this rhythm of whatever it is you're doing. That's why you see like baseball players, you know every time when he gets up to Baddy

Taps the tips and then yeah, it's all to get in his rhythm before he gets in there. We've coined it as superstition, right? That's how we've coined it and we say that, oh, they're baseball players or athletes are so superstitious, but I really think it's more like a rhythm. The value because it puts you in. Yeah. It's like a ritual that gets you into that space. Right, right.

So, although I've never really been into athletics, I do have certain ritualistic things that my wife very happily points out to me when I work out. So like when I do a heavy squat, I do this thing with my jaw where I stretch my jaw out and I make this face. Yeah. When I did lift, I do this thing with my back before I lift. And so she likes to point that out. When you make that face before you squat, I'm like, I do this thing with my back before I lift and so she likes to point that out. When you make that face before you squat, I'm like, I do.

Oh, that's weird. I used to do what they call chicken winging before I bench. You know, I just do this real quick like this. Yeah. That's what I did before I knew what I was doing. It's hilarious. Yeah, it made fun of me. Dude, my dad and just old Sicilians in general

are so superstitious. It's hilarious. How super. My dad, if you put your shoes down, so if you take your shoes off and you put your shoes down and the shoes aren't together, if one of them's backwards or the right is on the wrong side, he has to go fix them. Oh really? Yeah, because. That's weird, because I do that, but not because I have a superstition. It's weird it bugs me. He literally is like, you'll hurt your ankle. So I have to fix your even though they're not on your feet. Yes. He's got a straightened them out. You know, and what else does he do? That's interesting because I do the same thing but I've never figured out why bothers me. Yeah. If I we have shoes all the time of course in my house

right. So that I they're like, we have a bar, stairwell, we have a mount side on the deck, and if I walk past them and they're all like that, to shovel, I'll just stack them back together all nice and nice to do. Oh, and then there's this thing, like, if you have a bad dream, you have to tell, I think three people, otherwise it'll become true.

That's what, if you're pregnant, oh, chain mail. Bro, the thing's huge. Like, why didn't I open this? Yeah. Yeah, and then think about it all day. Yeah, and you're like, should, chain male, bro, the sweetest things, dude. Like, why didn't I open this? Stupid stuff. Yeah, and then think about it all day. Yeah, you're like, should I have a spa dinner? Should I have a spa dinner?

Oh, this, the, that's my brother. All these interesting superstitions around pregnancy. So, Sicilians will say, if a woman has a crave, and I feel like they made, I feel like pregnant women came up with this. It's like a scam.

Right. So, here's the superstition. It's very strong. My family's real big about this. If's like a scam. So here's the superstition. It's very strong. My family's real big about this. If a pregnant woman has a craving, you must give her that food. Oh, wow, that's funny. You have to give her the food. She has a craving for it. So it could be anything. She's like, I want a hot dog from New York. You got a flyer ass over to New York. Yeah, like one time, literally, my uncle and my uncle who lived in my aunt who lived in Calabria, so that's the southern part of Italy,

before you get to Sicily, right? She had a craving for Sicilian bread. He literally drove, got on the ferry, went all the way to Messina in Sicily to get the bread. How far is that? Bro, it's like a four hour, five hour commute to get, yeah, some bread, because she craved it. If you don't give her the food that she craves,

your baby will be born with a birthmark that looks like the food that she didn't get. What? That's what they say, dude. Wow, really? Yes. I mean, I guess you're motivated at that point, I believe that.

So it's funny because we'll be like at a family function or whatever. You know, it was big Gorbachev, so you didn't think on your head. I would have beats this life, whatever. Oh, man. See what happened, you can give me the Kool-Aid. Now I got the,

my, so we'll be at a family function and Jessica will say something about a craving and I'll tell her like, do not say that too loud. Don't say it loud. Yeah, cause in my grandma bike, what, what, what do you crave? Oh, okay.

We need to get it. We need to make it happen right now. Oh my God, dude. Oh man, I have you, pizza and ice cream. I didn't know that, that's interesting. Isn't that weird? Yeah, it is weird. Anyway, hilarious stuff.

Dude, so how are you guys enjoying your pillow? Your Pluto pillow because of my- Katrina just ordered hers last night. She didn't, she hadn't gone to this. What did she think of the process? So she like mid-brains like a little higher. So I didn't watch, which in fact I just, she asked me to, I'm like, I don't wanna tell you

how you should order your pillow, order your own pillow, and then we'll just talk about it after you get it. But she been trying to jack mine all the time. And so I kept telling her, order the damn fucking pillow from Pluto, dude. It doesn't have to get to the first time. I said, I'm like,

I can't, she be trying to jack it. I'm trying to jack my stuff, man. She's trying to jack my pillow, man. Get your own Pluto pillow, right? So yeah, she just ordered last night, and she was like, God, I didn't realize, like, how intense the questions are. They give you lots of questions, like to really drill it down. I said, yeah, now

that's the idea. So you have like the most ideal pillow for you. So and I have a feeling like, you know, and I'm waiting for someone to give me this response back. Like, you know, I until Pluto pillow, I'd never done something like this for a pillow. So even like, I want to order again. And there's like some minor adjustments I want to make. And I think that's kind of part of the process is like, it's like when you get a haircut for the Fr. even though Salad's an experience this, when you get a haircut for the first time

from like a really good stylist, it still takes two or three times before she gets it down and then you have this like great look, right? So it's the same thing with the pillow, I think, like, till you like hone in on the perfect pillow, right? So we'll see what hers turns out, see if it's like mine or totally the rest are just decorative pillows now Yes, that's like yeah, there's always that one pillow is your favorite and then that like you know You have you revolve everything around that yeah, so that's what's mine's turning you guys have decorative soaps

Decorative soaps we do not yeah my mom got decorative soaps She has soaps that you can't wash your hands with if you do you'll get My mom got decorative soaps. She has soaps that you can't wash your hands with if you do you'll get Yeah, that's a functional thing. It's just you got in the bathroom There are the soaps that look nice and the next to it is the actual soap that you use I always use the decorative towels. Yeah, I'm guilty of that. I get trouble for that For that I'm gonna chew come on. It's just for Halloween of drying myself off with it There was no towels in the cabinet. I had to use it. Dude, it's like function. Come on guys.

That's the whole function of it. Yeah, it's crazy stuff. Dude, oh, you want to hear something crazy? So just to make you feel, sometimes I read things that just make me realize just how not smart I am. So there's this kid, he just turned 13 years old or right before he turned, yeah, right before he turned 13. A Tennessee boy is being honored by the Guinness book

of world records. You know what he did? So remember, he literally hours before he turned 13, he was able to achieve nuclear fission. What? Wait, at 13? Before he turned 13, he was able to achieve nuclear fission. So he used, this is what he wrote, this was his quote, I've been able to use electricity to accelerate two atoms of deuterium together. So they fuse into an atom of helium 3 and also release a neutron which can be used to heat

up water and turn a steam engine which in turn produces electricity. This kid is, yeah, isn't that amazing? It's like a super genius. Isn't that crazy? Yeah. I love reading stuff like that. Deterium sounds made up though. Maybe on. That sounds like, yeah, sounds like one of those avatar ones, you know. If you have a mind like that though, it like 12 years old, how tortured are you?

You have to be tortured inside, right? You have to think in order to reach that level of intelligence, you got to think that brain is running at a hundred miles an hour. How do you have conversations with people? No, you don't. It's tough. I don't think you that brain is running at a hundred miles an hour. Any conversations with people? No, you don't. I don't think you're probably in a room reading all the time because that's all you enjoyed. It's the only thing that will probably scratch that itch for you. Otherwise, you're probably being tortured by your own thoughts. I would think that.

The biggest challenge I could imagine with being that smart as a kid, it would be relating to kids you're on age. Like imagine he's 12 and he's sitting around with his friends and they're doing, like they're playing with pugs or whatever. And he's like, oh, you guys that's cool. Yeah, so you guys know what nuclear fission is? Yeah.

We gotta get him the right mentors. I just know that much. Yeah, you gotta make sure he doesn't go down, you know, the crazy evil path. It's funny because you think that these super brilliant kids would become extremely successful in the future. Oftentimes they don't. Oftentimes they just, they have a normal job

and they just have hobbies where they do really hard difficult things because they just love the challenge in the learning. But that's crazy, right? That's insane. Yeah, he figures all that out. It's so brilliant. I know.

I love reading stuff like that about kids. You ever watch those music geniuses when they're like five or six playing the violin or the piano or whatever? Yeah, I love that. And that's just the thing. We see greatness and it does something to you. You're like, wow, that's possible.

It's just it's awe inspiring. Have you guys ever met a kid where you knew that they were brilliant in some aspect? You guys ever seen a kid like, well, you can see some kid. I just, just telling you guys, I have, I was just telling you guys about Katrina's best friend, her son,

who is how old is he? He is only, I wanna say he's six or seven. And he is like his, his ability to do math. Like they were firing like multiplication. And it took me longer to get the answer than it took him to get the answer. Like he was just so fast. And I'm talking like, you know, 12 times 17.

And like the kid would whip it out really, really quick. And his dad had taught him all these methods of shortcuts on multiplication. And he's like, fucking seven dude. He's like so young. They don't even teach you that until you get like fourth grade. So he's way ahead of like all the kids in his class. So you can tell, I mean, if he's there right now,

who knows where the hell he's gonna be in four or five? Potentially, yeah. Yeah, there's, it's a missed opportunity sometimes with kids and like the way education is organized because what you have is you have a combination of a brain that is highly moldable, way more than when you're an adult. And this is why when you learn a new language as a kid, you don't get an accent like you do when you're an adult.

It's just this, it's so plastic, right? So it's extremely moldable and plastic. And if you can combine that with obsessive passion, a lot of kids have, this is not uncommon for kids to not be obsessively passionate about something. Sometimes it looks like they're into video games or they're into baseball cards or whatever, but if you could like kind of work with that a little bit

and get them to direct that passion towards something that they could learn, children will blow your mind with what they can accomplish. You never know what the passion is speaking of that too. So I've been trying to kind of figure out with both my boys and whatnot. And I hadn't seen anything from a young guest until just recently he played Mario 3 at his friends house.

He comes back, he starts talking to me all about it, how much he loved it, all the stuff. And I was like, we had this like full conversation about every level, because I remember it vividly. That was like my favorite game growing up and everything. And I remember that we had this product from a long time ago, it brought this up on the podcast called Bloxels,

where you basically put like pixels together to create characters, you can create your own video game. And so like we started to kind of mess around with that again, and he's gone crazy with it. He's, he went like and created all these characters and he's got this whole thing. And I've never seen him so like into something. Isn't that right? Isn't that game Roblox or what's it called? No, it's not that. But it's, this is actually a way you can make your own within their, their, their, they have the software where basically you take pictures

of your characters and stuff and then you can animate them and then structure your own levels and stuff so you basically build it. How is it different than that other game? Because I thought you could build your own levels and build your own characters in that other game. You can do that. That's a video game first and then within the video game you can kind of create. Do you know that they're going public?

I was just reading an article on them. Yeah. Are they really huge? Wait, well, you mean the company that, that is, oh wow. Yeah, it's Roblox or some other. Roblox, yeah, something like that, right? So I'm not familiar with it.

I've never used it, but I've seen a couple articles. That's my kids favorite game. Yeah, but they're all about that. Well, speaking of the market and going public, you guys see Peloton, just Corussian? Yeah. Just Corussian. Well, I mean, we kind of called that right,

because the way that the fitness space has moved due to COVID. And I think when everything went down, I wanna say Peloton was like, 40 something. 40 something dollars. As of right now, I think it's 120 something dollars. And it looks like it's just gonna keep going up

with the amount of users and we got Christmas coming up. I predict that to be, I mean, that's an information tech stock, right? I don't think it's trading like a fitness company at all. No, no, no, no, it's gonna do. I'm, you know what I'm surprised in is Fitbit. That was the other one that we talked about that I thought we'd see a rise on that with everything's going on with it and Google

and then with the Christmas. So I'm still banking on that one to do better when we get closer to Christmas because I thought for sure that Fitbit would have. Wasn't there something with Fittbit and Europe and their information they had to pass something? That was with Google, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So that went through, right? So I think that everything went through with them and Google, they did stuff they were working with the NFL, so they got all these great stuff, and their stock is still so cheap, it's like $66 or something. Nothing. Yeah, it's not expensive, so I don't know, I don't know what's holding them up

from like exploding. I would think they would be there. One of the leaders in like, you know, wearables. Oh yeah. Yeah, they've been the staple for, for yeah, that aspect of the industry. Yeah, I just, there's an article right here. It says Google offers Europe more checks

that Fitbit data won't be used for ads. Okay, so that's the fear. The fear is that they're gonna use, they're gonna use your personal health information and ads. Okay, so that's the fear. The fear is that they're going to use, they're going to use your personal Health information and whatnot. Yeah. Yeah, good luck. Yeah, you're up Google from doing that. Yeah, that's what they do. Yep. This quads brought to you by Organify. For those days you fall short on getting your organic veggies or whole food nutrition Organify fills the gap with laboratory testeded Certified Organic Superfoods

to help give your health and performance the added edge. Try Organified, Totally Risk-Free for 60 Days by Going To Organify.com. That's O-R-G-A-N-I-F-I dot com. And use a coupon code MindPump for 20% off at checkout. First question is from Lake Josson. When is it more advantageous to use a supinated grip over a pronated grip for tricep exercises? It's obviously riskier when doing exercises

like skull crushers, but does it hit the tries at a different angle? No, it doesn't. You know, I remember when I thought that it did something. Because it feels different. It does. So I would do press downs and now would change the handles. doesn't. You know, I remember when I thought that it did something because it feels different. It does. So I would do press downs and I would change the handles. Right. So I'd go press

down with a straight bar, the rope, and then it have a supinated grip. And I could be like, oh, I feel it in different areas. Yeah. And then you learn anatomy and biomechanics. And you realize that the triceps really has nothing to do with the wrist rotating. Does nothing, has nothing to do with supinating or pruning the hands unlike the biceps, but then people would say things, and I would say something like back then, but I feel it differently. Well, the reason why you feel it differently

is supinating or pruning your hands tends to change your elbow position a little bit. So if I supinate my hands, I'm more likely to squeeze my elbows in at my sides rather than allowing them to to flare out a little bit and trice- elbow position makes a difference with triceps. So that's what you would basically want to pay attention to. Do you think it's that? Do you think it's the elbow positioning that makes it feel different? I've actually never thought of that. You're driving it in more when you see it.

I mean, that makes sense. It's like you're squishing your tricep. Because if your palms are up and you're doing like a reverse grip push down like you're saying right now, you're right. Like I can, it actually feels awkward to let the elbows flare out. It feels more comfortable to keep them more turned in. That's why it feels different. Right, and when you do a tricep push down,

one of the most common things when you're in a overhand grip or pronated, you see people flare their elbows. So maybe you're right, I'd never even thought of that. That's why it felt so, I just thought because you're holding onto it and actually just the tense of you gripping it. Because when you're on top of it, like on a push down, you don't even have to grip the bar.

Like you could completely relax your palms and push down. Yeah, I was thinking the tension might be another factor, right? Yeah, because then you can squeeze a bit harder and more intensely sometimes when you're in a supinated grip just because now we're squeezing versus just pushing is a different type of stimulus.

But again, I think the elbow position is definitely, you know, that's gonna be the meat of it all. Well, that was one of the, we did a video, maybe we'll have Rachel's been going through our old library of YouTube videos and she's been posting like things that we did a long time ago. We did a video that it was all about buys and tries and it was all about elbow position.

It was a long time ago that we did. So maybe she'll post that up on the main IG, but that was the biggest, you know, I'm trying to get better about saying game changer. We say it all the time. I'm gonna give you a shit. It just fits so well. It changed the game.

It just fits so well there though. You know what I'm saying? Because it was a game changer for me when this came together. Like, I too would do, you know, on Tricep Day, I would go over to the cable machine because I felt it the most on cables more than anything else. And I would do a regular Tricep push down, a supinated push down, I'd do the rope. And that would be like tricep day. And I got more gains on my buys and tries

when I learned the importance of manipulating my elbow positioning, and then I started to look at every workout and go, okay, I'm gonna do an exercise with my elbows by my side, my elbows out in front of me, then my elbows above my head, and then whether I did cables, dumbbells, all that stuff didn't matter as much as long as I manipulated the elbow positioning. Oh my God, my arms blew up after that.

Absolutely, yeah. It's the things you want to focus on exactly what Adam said, right? Elbows by your sides, elbows in front of you, like a skull crusher, elbows overhead, like an overhead tricep. All three of those stretch and work the triceps a little differently, especially if you look at the attachments. But there is a little bit of a difference in changing the wrist position.

Now, it's not really, it doesn't really have anything to do with the triceps. However, your recruitment patterns, you can get better at practicing a movement with different position. Now, I can't think off the top of my head what the value would be, at getting good at a supinated grip press down.

But let's just say you were in some kind of weird sport that required you to grip something in a supinated grip and use your tricep. In that particular case, then it would make sense. So when it comes to sports or movement or patterns, then you're not necessarily looking at your body, like a bodybuilder would, right? This is a bodybuilder question.

Well, that's it. It hits the triceps differently. But if you're talking about a movement as a movement if you're playing if you're doing a sport and even though the hand position might not affect the targeted muscle it may be a good idea to train with that hand position because that's the one you're using so much. That's a Michael hern makes the case for this he does a lot of like weird odd like angled exercises that are very similar like as far as getting the gains

on your tricep or your bicep, like him doing this exercise versus this other one that he would show. It's like, I'm looking at that going like, I need one of those, I'm gonna make that be a difference. But the case that he makes is that it's, I wanna be strong in all positions.

Right. So, I can get behind that. Yep, yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, like I mean, in real life, you're rarely ever in the perfect school, crusher position, the perfect overhead. You know what I'm saying? So having your elbows flared, laying in a weird position with your out in a different way. It's the same. I feel too with those, you know, those those added grip, fat grips. Fat grips. Yeah. It's just the same. It's, you know, just getting strong

with the different grip is valuable, but it's not like everything. Right. That's not everything. You're the penny dropper. Whatever you want to call it. Right. We're going to say that. Do we do that? Do we do that? We do. We do. I tell you what, when I changed elbow position, it was a penny dropper. Right. It kind of works.

I'm with you over. That doesn't work. You don't think? Wow, man. Next question is from CMOS 23. What would you tell a client who was told they only have to train with partial reps or a limited range of motion to save their joints?

I remember when I figured this out. It was a panty dropper. For sure. It's gonna stick out for real. It is gonna stick. I'm using it, dude. That's right. I figured you would adjust it.

I'm not. So here's the thing. Okay. You want to train, and this is where people get confused, I'm using it. That's fine, I figured it would. I've adjusted, I'm not. So here's the thing, okay. You want to train, and this is where people get confused, with ranges of motion. Do I train in a full range of motion? Do I train in a partial range of motion? It's very individual.

You want to train in the fullest range of motion, and here's the important part, that you have control over, okay? So the fullest range of motion that you have control over, what does this look like for you? It can be very different in terms of what it looks like for you than what it would look like for someone else. When I would train somebody who had poor mobility, somebody who wasn't, you know, didn't have lots of stability and strength, sometimes that meant we would do squats and the squats would be to start with a quarter squat.

Because anything lower than a quarter squat, they didn't have the stability to support that range of motion and the risk of injury was too high or we would end up training a movement pattern that wasn't good, right? Now, that doesn't stop there though. Then I would try to improve the person's functional range of motion.

So if all we can do are quarter squats because you lack the mobility and stability to do a full squat, I will do quarter squats, but I'm not gonna stop there. I'm gonna do exercises and correctional movements to increase and improve your range of motion because the best way to live life, the best way to develop muscle and strength

is to have long ranges of motion that you control. Be able to own all ranges of motion. Now your risk of injury is really low. Well, an example I think of immediately with this, which was one of my clients that had frozen shoulder. So this was something that was just a real debilitating, you know, had like no range of motion. You could barely even lift his arm up to about chest height, right? And so that's what I had to work with.

And so we had to go very gradually into different ranges of motion and we could only do what we could do. And so a lot of it looked like actually isometrics where we'd find that in range and then we would connect to it and then try and pull up on his own. So a lot of it was all his own effort with pulling away. So if I put,

for instance, so if I put his hand on the wall and I try to get it up as high as I can, where he's pushing on the wall at his highest point of range of motion to now connect to that. So he's going to squeeze into it, but now he also has to try and pull off of the wall. That was a totally different type of an exercise that had massive benefit that was a really gradual increase in range of motion over time, but it's totally different mindset. I think you guys are both missing the point here. This, and neither one of you are slamming the shit of the person who gave this advice. Like, you guys are both making cases for where you would use partial reps and it makes sense.

Instead of slamming coursequots. Yes, well, instead of slamming this person that is telling the... Saved your joints. Yeah, to do partial reps to save your joints. Yeah, you're right. Like, you guys are making it, like, which I understand where you're going, like, yeah, absolutely. Like, there's been cases where we, as trainers, used partial reps with a client for the exact reasons that both of you just defended.

But if someone is telling a client, you should do partial reps to save your joints. That is some of the worst advice. That's terrible advice. Because what you're going to do is train them to be strong and controlled in that short and range of motion. And anything outside of that, their joints will be more vulnerable.

So that's the last thing that I'd wanna do. Now, that doesn't mean that we're not careful with going full range of motion, like maybe like to Sal's point, when this person squats, their form breaks down after a quarter squat, and so therefore you would take the precautions that Sal and Justin are talking about.

But as far as just general advice, this is terrible advice that you should not limit your range of motion, especially if you already have it. If you have your range of motion, especially if you already have it. If you have full range of motion in your shoulder and you think, oh, this is going and someone's telling that this person that them doing partial reps is going to save their joints and you're going to get more out of it, long-tune.

No, that's terrible. You're not preparing them for real world activities and function because nobody is living in those short ranges of motion constantly. I mean, there's so many more variables. It has to be appropriate, of course. And the goal is always to increase the range of motion. So if you are using partial reps, you have to also train yourself to be able to use full

of reps. The problem is this. The problem is that we often confuse the human body with machinery that we use in everyday life, right? So if I use a particular tool or machine, the more I use it, the more wear and tear there is on it. And it's not going to, it has a certain shelf life, right? So over time, if I continue to use a door hinge, over and over again, it wears down, and

that's bad for the door hinge. This is not how the human body works. The human body, yes, you get wear and tear, but that sends a signal for repair and strengthening. This is why muscles build. I wear and tear on them when I work out, they get, they build and they get stronger. Not sending that signal actually causes more problems. Yeah, actually. So for joint health, the best possible thing you could do is move them through appropriate

ranges of motion and build strength within them. That'll keep your health, your best possible thing you could do is move them through appropriate ranges of motion and build strength within them. That'll keep your joints healthy. Not moving your joints actually speeds up the degradation process. It actually speeds up or amplifies your risk of injury. So, and then you think, okay, what about people that overuse their limbs

and hurt themselves? It's totally different. I'm not talking about overuse. I'm not talking about overcoming your body's ability to adapt and strengthen.. I'm not talking about overuse, I'm not talking about overcoming your body's ability to adapt and strengthen, and I'm not talking about strengthening a bad recruitment pattern. That can definitely cause problems,

but if you have good movement, I mean, the people who are old with the best ranges of motion, the best joints, the best joint health, are people who exercise, not people who sit around and don't move their bodies. So this is a, there's just a false paradigm here, that, oh, gotta save your joint, don't use it that much. It doesn't work that way. The body either decides to strengthen

and maintain a joint, or it decides it doesn't need the joint anymore. Not moving it tells the body, we don't need it anymore. And it's gonna naturally prune that. That's it. Next question is from Kenny Fallanges 28. I have a big appetite and I always feel hungry. What are some strategies you've used to help?

Are there any specific foods that you have used to hack big appetites? Yeah, so this is a problem for a lot of people, right? This is overeating. And so I'll talk about what worked well for my clients because this was never an issue for me. I had a fast metabolism. I always wanted to gain weight.

So the opposite was the issue for me was figuring out how to eat more food. But for, I'd say probably 90 something percent of my clients, it was the opposite, right? They were dealing with overeating. And there's a couple of things you could do. One, for people who overeat, more often than not, eating more frequently tends to help.

Okay, it does tend to help. So having someone have three meals with snacks in between so long as things are tracked properly, otherwise it gets out of control. That seems to help. High protein makes a big difference. Protein is very, very satiating. So what I used to tell my clients who had issues with this is I would say, okay, when you're

eating your meal, which typically would have protein, some kind of a fat, and some type of carbohydrate, eat the protein first. Eat your six ounce serving of meat first, and then move on to the other categories of macronutrients. And usually the second one I would be fat, because that's more satiating the carbohydrates, and then move on to carbohydrates. That tends to help the most. High protein diet actually does quite a bit,

or has done quite a bit for clients who've dealt with appetite issues. Stake and sweet potato. This has been, it's very specific. Yeah, no, no really. And that's why I want to give you that. I've literally had this question asked me many, many times with clients and down to where we've played with all kinds of different foods.

And obviously there's an individual variance and some people have used other things, but this worked really well. And it's for the point that you just made right now, like a high protein meal and fat. So fat and protein are going to satiate you more than anything else. Stake is great for this. You know, eat a nice big steak first and then sweet potato because it's not as high a calorie and you can get away with eating a pretty good size sweet potato without a ton of calories and that's pretty filling.

And it's lower on the glycemic index than other carbohydrates. This tended to be like a solid meal that I could, and then I would tell them to get a vegetable on top of that. So if you were to eat a, a salad with that or a bunch of greens, whether it be green beans or something like that that you could fill up on, that was like a really feeling good solid meal that always helped clients that were struggling with this. So this was a regular, a regular thing that I recommend. I see two things that might be a little different

than you guys. One being water being consumed, which is something I would direct them immediately to, just to see a lot of times it was not the case where they were drinking a good amount of water and they were constantly hungry and always consuming things to kind of fill this craving for something. And so that was one thing. The other thing was to just understanding hunger a little bit more

specifically. And so this is where I do find value in experimenting with even if it's like a meal skip or it's like a full day fast or something where they can actually live in those signals for a while and realize they're gonna be okay on the other side. I'm not saying this is a constant practice they do, but I think it's an educational one to really understand the difference between a craving and an actual desire to eat and have hunger.

I love your water. I forgot, this is something I would also recommend to this exact same client is, before you eat meals like to make them pound a glass of water before you go to eat them. Exactly. Because a lot of times it is. It's a lack of hydration that makes you think that you're really hungry.

So filling up with a glass of water before you sit down and eat the meal would always help that out too. Great tip. Yeah. Those are both excellent tips. I think the other one too, a lot of... I noticed this when my clients took me a long time to figure this out, but a lot of the excess calories would come from eating

when they were doing something else. So watching TV, or while they're working. Stracted eating. Yeah, because it's distracted eating. You're not very aware, so I would tell them like a simple rule, and people respond pretty well to black and white, simple rules, so I'd say okay. Anytime you eat, don't do anything else. If you're doing something else, don't eat. That used to result in a

hundred to 300 calorie reduction for a lot of my clients. Pretty consistently down the road. Next question is from Trey Thayer. There's a lot of skepticism about chiropractic therapy and its origins. What are your opinions and do you think it helps? It's a lot like any other profession I feel like, right? There's examples of really bad ones and then there's examples of like really good ones. I mean, it's like trainers.

There's phenomenal trainers out there that are brilliant in doing great work and then there's a lot of shit butts. I think that's true in this. That's my favorite terms. It's true lot of shit butts. I think that's the true in this. That's my favorite terms. That's true in this field also. And I used to, by the way, I hated carpractors. So for, and that's again, that was my experience, right?

The first 10 that I experienced as a trainer were all really shitty. Like I would say like nine out of 10 were really shitty. One of them was like, okay. And so I had like a bad taste in my mouth for car practice. I used to, in my presentation, when I was selling personal training in the people, I used to love to get somebody who saw a car practice

because I would shit on them completely. And so I had that attitude for a really long time. It wasn't until Dr. Brink and Jordan Schallow did that completely become a panty dropper for me. So it was, it was, yeah. It's sick of dope. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can't do it. I it was, it was, yeah. It's sick enough. Yeah, yeah. It's sick enough.

I'm making it work. I want to make it work. So, it was possible for them. It was no. It was a game changer for they were, both of them were. They, they're two of the most brilliant men that I've met in this field and both have blown my mind completely. And so, because of that experience from them,

it's opened my eyes to it. And there's guys like the move you guys, I love those guys, they're chiropractors. You know where the skepticism comes from. It comes from the, so, and this is a problem in a lot of fields. What some chiropractic methods were teaching was that, okay, the central nervous system controls everything in your body. That's correct. The spine houses obviously

the spinal cord, and through the spinal cord, your central nervous system communicates the whole body, central nervous system communicates your breathing and your horticut affect the hormones, and it could affect how you think, and it can affect the hormones and it can affect how you think and it can affect the immune system. All of this is true, but then they took this massive leap and said that lining up your body and your spine, then can cure all the problems since everything comes.

Like disease is and it colds and everything else. Yeah, since everything comes from the central nervous system and the central nervous system affects everything, therefore aligning it. It made a massive jump. Massive jump and then of course there's a lot that's just not sure. That's how you know, okay, so a good way to tell if you have got a shitty car park to our good one and this was like my experience with a brink was, you know, many car parkers will do an assessment on you and whether it be they have like the new digital ones

that take like a photo of you and then they tell you, oh, you have your shoulder elevated here, you're rounded here. And then they throw you on the table and they just crack you into place. Like then you have a shitty chiropractor. Not come in crack them. That's all they do.

Because all that, if they do that, sure they may give you temporary relief, but they're not fixing you. You're gonna have to come back forever and they're setting you up to where. They're not fixing why your body would be like that. And a good chiropractor may not even use his table to adjust you ever and they're setting you up to where. They're not fixing why your body would be so that way. And a good chiropractor may not even use his table to adjust you ever and is gonna make you walk

and move and squat and get down on the floor and explain to you what's broken or what's going wrong with your body, what movements, what exercises that you need to do to fix the root cause that's causing whatever issues, whether it be chronic pain or bad movement patterns. And that is like what a good, a good chiropractor will do versus, you know, take a picture

of you, break you down, tell you how dysfunctional you are, lay you down, crack you and go see how good you feel, come back to see me next week on Tuesday, I'll make sure you feel good again. And then you get stuck in the cycle of I got to see a chiropractor. Keep patching holes. Yeah, you're not, you're not addressing the root cause. All you do is putting a band in. No, a good chiropractor is a movement specialist.

Yeah, that, not an adjustment specialist. Now, there is a place for adjustments and, you know, I've heard it explained a lot of different crazy ways, but the best chiroprctors I've worked with explained it very, very well. And really it's about articulating joints in the body that may be, quote, unquote, stuck because the muscles around them are so tight.

So it's like you have a tight muscle anywhere on your body. If you stretch it or move it, it starts, it relaxes and allows it to, and it starts to feel better. Well, there are small joints in the body and the spine where the rib cage attaches in the hips where something might be so difficult and stuck that traditional stretches just don't articulate it. And so it requires somebody to come and manually cause. And they need to be in the judgment. Yes, I mean, I think that's really the where I see value in it is when you've already gone through the work of, you know, muscular-wise,

training-wise, you're trying to get into better alignment and it's just not there yet and maybe now you might look into subluxation or whatever technique they're going to use to try and help to get you back because you do feel a lot better once you're in good alignment and your joints are functioning the way that they're supposed to. Well, I think I feel like it's a similar thing to how we talk about foam rolling or the therapy guns, like all these things give you temporary relief. So if you use those tools to then go do the movements that you need to do to address the issue, then it's a good thing. So if you go and you see a car brighter, he adjusts, you realigns you to make you feel

better. So then you go do the exercises that you need to do to correct the problem. Then I see value in it. But one of the things that I would see with a lot of the car parkers I worked with as a trainer early well before brink and shallow is they didn't give any corrective exercise. They had just adjusted.

That's all they did was it just adjusted to fix the person and made them feel better for the day, or for a few days before they'd come back. They weren't explaining to them what was going on with their body. I was having to do that as a trainer and saying, listen, all they're doing is cracking you back into place. You feel good, but then your muscles are pulling you back

into the bad position. You see the same thing from Western medicine, like with doctors, they're prescribing you pills to make you feel better, but there's no real protocol of maybe we should change a bird diet, maybe we should get this type of exercise, maybe there's no plan, it's just like, I can make you feel better right now.

And so they followed a similar business model I feel. Yeah, so it's like, oh, you have acid reflux, here's a pill that will make you feel better, but never talking about the root cause of acid reflux. Oh, you get asset reflux. Here's a pill that will make you feel better, but never talking about the root cause of asset reflux. Oh, you get headaches all the time. Here's this pill to help you with your headaches, but we'll never figure out the root cause. There's also a lot of business models

that surround the chiropractic industry that are designed to maximize a chiropractor's revenue. And I think this also has, for lack of a better term, poison the industry, right? So you'll see Chiropractors who utilize these models. Don't remember the names of these models, but they'll say, okay, here's a great way to make a lot of money to Chiropractors.

You have 10 people show up at the same time, and they're all on different beds, and you go and adjust this one over here, adjust this one over here, it's like a factory. Yes, and these are these business models. The same one. No joke, in the health space, the chiropractic industry probably has more of these get rich quick

in your chiropractic business type schemes than almost any that I can think of. Well, because this causes problems. Well, because they can give immediate relief and feel better. It's one of those tangible things, right? Like you walk in, someone has got low back pain because they're all out of alignment, right?

And then you have someone crack them into place and it's like, oh my God, that feels so much better. It's like all I had to do is do that in five minutes. They set them in these 15 minute increments. You got clients coming in out, like you can't. I mean, you know what it's like to train somebody and help them with an issue. Like, it'll take no 15 minutes.

It takes me 15 minutes, it's just explain what's going on with them, and that takes me another 15 to 20 minutes to do the exercises to fix the issue. It would be the equivalent of a trainer having six clients and like, you're doing a bench press, you're doing a row. Totally, you're doing it. And then you show them and you walk away.

Oh, I get trained by the gym, but there's no instruction. Exactly, no, a good chiropractor, I'm gonna say this again, is a movement specialist. If you find a chiropractor that understands correctional exercise and teaches you how to prevent yourself from hurting in the first place, you found a good one. If you have a chiropractor that just provides relief

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