Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1416: The Benefits of Adding Plyometrics & Functional Training to Your Workout, the Impact Deadlifts Have on Waist Size, the Importance of Rest Days & More

Episode Date: November 4, 2020

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about adding plyometrics and functional training into a routine, whether deadlifts give you a thicker midsection, if one ...rest day a week is necessary, and the best exercises or routines for a 7 year old interested in weight training. Updates on Baby Di Stefano. (4:58) Home alone with Adam. (12:25) Mind Pump Recommends, the Magic 8 Ball for the Markets Podcast with Dr. Peter Linneman. (20:16) 49ers announce an official partnership with Joovv. (35:43) Magic Spoon’s newest flavors have Justin drooling. (38:08) Jessica’s weird pregnancy cravings. (40:34) #Quah question #1 – What do you think about plyometrics? How can I incorporate plyometrics and functional training into my routine? (42:05) #Quah question #2 – Do deadlifts give you a thicker midsection? I love doing them and have gained a great deal of strength in my back from them. However, as a female, I worry that my midsection is thicker as a result. (49:38) #Quah question #3 – Is it truly necessary to take one rest day a week? For instance, how about alternating between full-body strength days and cardio? (56:16) #Quah question #4 – My nephew is 7 and is showing interest in weight lifting. Where is a good place to start? What exercises or routines would you recommend? (1:01:35) Related Links/Products Mentioned November Promotion: MAPS Ultimate At-Home Workout Bundle for Only $99.99 Barbarians | Netflix Official Site Magic 8 Ball for the Markets Mind Pump #1270: Peter Schiff On The Post COVID-19 Economy & How To Thrive Visit Joovv for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! San Francisco 49ers Announce Joovv as Official Light Therapy Partner Visit Magic Spoon for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Activate Muscle Fibers for Maximum Muscle Growth (Video 1 of 4) - Mind Pump TV The #1 Movement Pre-Requisite To Building Six-Pack Abs – Mind Pump TV Shrink Your Waist with Stomach Vacuums | MIND PUMP TV You're Not Training Your Core Correctly! (STRONGER CORE!) - Mind Pump TV Mind Pump Podcast - YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Ben Greenfield (@bengreenfieldfitness)  Instagram Peter Schiff (@peterschiff)  Twitter Joe DeFranco (@defrancosgym)  Instagram

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Starting point is 00:00:00 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Saldas Defano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. Congratulations, you're listening to Mind Pump the World's Number One Fitness Health Entertainment. You did it, you guys! Now, in this episode, we answer fitness and health questions that our audience asked us. But the way we open the episodes with an introductory portions where we talk about our lives and current events. We talk about some studies. Today's episode, the intro is 37 minutes long after that we get into answering the
Starting point is 00:00:35 fitness questions. Let me give you a breakdown of the whole podcast. So we open up by talking about the fact that my wife is trying lots of natural methods to try to induce labor. As of the recording of this podcast, no baby yet. So we're waiting. We are anticipating. Then Adam talks about his night at home without wife and kid and he brought out the ball and got emotional. So good times.
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Starting point is 00:02:28 Then we answered fitness questions. Here's the first one. This person wants to know what we think about plyometrics and how you can incorporate them into their routine. The next question, do deadlifts give you a thicker midsection? The third question was, is it really necessary to take one day off a week from your workouts? And the final question, they have a nephew that's seven years old who want to start working out.
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Starting point is 00:04:30 Oh shit, Doc, you know it's my favorite time of the week. We have two winners, one for Apple Podcasts and one for Facebook. The Apple Podcast winner is Mark Bacara and for Facebook, Beth Miller. Both of you are winners. Send the name I just read to iTunes at MindPumpMedia.com, include your shirt size and your shipping address, and we'll get that shirt right out to you. Winning is a baby, this definitely not going to happen or what, bro. I know what's going on here.
Starting point is 00:05:01 Oh man, it's a little, so as of the recording of this podcast. Don't over cook it, you know? No, I know. What's going on here? Oh man, it's a little so as of the recording of this podcast don't over cook it, you know, I know As of the recording the podcast we are now 11 days past the due date Yeah, so and you know, we're trying to do this at home And the law says you can't do this at home if it's two weeks past so 14 so you're three days right now away from Not being able to do it at home. Yes, so the pressure is on. So Jessica's been given some, some natural options
Starting point is 00:05:31 to help trigger this to go along. Yeah, what'd you say? Would you say canola oil or something? No, no, no, no. What do they do? Castor oil. Castor oil. But actually, what they put in race cars?
Starting point is 00:05:40 No. Is it, no? Castor oil? No, is it castor oil? Oh, castor oil. I know I was close right yeah I think the castors from some time some time a bean yeah thank god it's not you yeah I heard
Starting point is 00:05:52 castro yeah yeah it's been the baby come out it oils I feel like it would work to no it's not what I'll do with Justin told me last time scared the shadow of her yeah yeah yeah no um castro oil is one thing but we haven't done that yet. So what castor oil is, really interesting, right?
Starting point is 00:06:08 It's a laxative, and there's something in castor oil that attaches to the receptors in your intestines that cause them to contract. And there's similar receptors in the uterus. So when you take it, it causes contractions, and then that can set off the catalyst for it all. The process, right? But we're not there yet.
Starting point is 00:06:26 There is one other, she's gonna be so mad, I'm gonna share this, but there is one other, there's one thing that they told her to try first. What's that? Anima. Oh, really? Yeah. So you do an Anima.
Starting point is 00:06:35 So she done it yet? Yes, she did it this morning and so. Did you guys have some fun with it? What? What? How the hell do you have fun? What does it sound fun? What's going on here? I don't know. How do you have fun with it. What? Wow. How the hell do you have fun? That's not what it sounds fun. What's going on here?
Starting point is 00:06:46 You heard it, dude. How do you have fun with it? How do you have fun with it? How kinky and weird you are. I think you're weird. You know, that weird. Really turned it into some sort of four-player thought of. No.
Starting point is 00:06:54 Hey babe. Hey. That's the only way I can think of it. I put some shampoo in here. Otherwise, how do you keep a straight face when you're doing something good? I didn't do it. She didn't.
Starting point is 00:07:03 Oh, she didn't want to help. No. She'll have to apply. Yeah. Hey babe babe, put some champagne in the end of a bottle. Tell me if you watch the big green fill video. Yeah, no, so what that does is it stimulates intestinal contractions and then that can set off labor. So she's doing that first. That didn't work. Well, you wait 24 hours.
Starting point is 00:07:19 Oh, yeah, so that was last night or this morning. This morning. Oh, this morning. So she did that. Now, how did you find out she was doing this that you walk in and be like honey or did she tell you? I'm going in to go do what's all this now. We're all we're on the phone with the midwife when we're talking Oh, so this is like a group chat zoom call Anima. Yeah, no not watching now bend over and slowly insert now the instructions are on the bottle Actually when you buy the box it shows like the positions you get in.
Starting point is 00:07:45 One of them is on your side. I've seen this. But the other one is like your, like your doggy style, but with your head to hell alone. So your butt's up in the air. So I should just face down ass up. Yeah, she's like, what the fuck is going on?
Starting point is 00:07:56 Now do you use, is there like, I mean, I have no idea about this. So it's like a funnel and a tube or something. Like, what do you, what do you insert there? Oh, so I didn't open the box and look at it, but I guess it's a, something we fill up with the saline water. So it's like a funnel, right?
Starting point is 00:08:10 It's not a funnel, it's like a bag or something. I think it's like a squeeze thing. Oh, yeah. And then there's a long tube. Like a douche is what it looks like. I guess. And then there's a long tube with a little end of it, nozzle that's self lubricated, it's a box,
Starting point is 00:08:24 and you put it in your butt, and then you squeeze the water in your tub. The tube comes lubricated already? That's the box head, I don't know. That's weird. No astro glide or anything like that? No, no, no. I mean, that's smart, you know, if you ask me,
Starting point is 00:08:37 that's the capitalism right there. Yeah, wow. Would you much rather buy the self lubricated one of the one you have to lubricate? I get, I don't know. I don't know if I trust like somebody else lubricating the thing before I You think this people Oops didn't get enough on this one. That should be fine. You're like oh this is really dry. Just fitting on the amp So what you do is you you you fill your you know this how it ends up works right you you add water
Starting point is 00:09:04 Just to help people who are constipated and then you wait and then when you feel like this is what you do is you fill your, you know, this is how an animal works, right? You add water, just to help people who are constipated. And then you wait, and then when you feel like, this is what the box is, when you feel the urge to evacuate, then you sit on the toilet and you let it happen. I feel like that's just gonna happen, whether you like it or not. Now you seem to know some stuff about, as I'm talking, I see you nodding.
Starting point is 00:09:21 I do, I had to do one one time. Oh, what? What? You didn't tell us about this? Of course you do. Of course I wouldn't tell you about this. I had to do one one time. Oh, what? Yeah. You didn't tell us about this. Of course you didn't. Of course I wouldn't tell you about this. I was in private stuff. He's saving for the public pocket.
Starting point is 00:09:31 Yeah, I just figured like, you know, all the rest of millions of people will know that. Yes, good to say. We'll tell your boys until a million people will find you guys. When did you do that? Yeah, I think it was back when I was having issues with my dreamals. And they, I don't know if it was that, I was having some kind of, boy, boy, boy, you stuck something up your ass
Starting point is 00:09:49 and you didn't know why. This is because, I don't remember. It is like, you just let's have Doctor say. He prescribed it to me. Hey, that's where we're at. Yeah, it's weird to me. I just like, this guy has an MD after his name,
Starting point is 00:09:59 like, and he says, hey, stick this up your ass, okay. Yeah. Okay, no questions, no like, yeah, I couldn't, no, okay. Yeah. Okay, no questions? No, like, uh. Yeah, I couldn't, no, that's why, because we had something to do the prostate, and all that kind of stuff, like, uh, they're checking, dude, there was an issue again.
Starting point is 00:10:14 So I don't know what my medical life is. That's like the engine you went in the truck. It doesn't make no sense. Why, what does that have to do with your prostate? The prostate, that's how they get to the prostate. Yeah, bro, come on, dude, go back to the anatomy. I don't know. I haven't had any fingers in my ass, so I don't know. So in light, in light, in The prostate, that's how they get to the prostate. Yeah, bro, come on, dude, go back to anatomy. I haven't had any fingers in my ass, so I don't know.
Starting point is 00:10:27 So in light, in light, in light, in the small, that's a lot. You should try it. So here's a deal, Adam knows muscles. The rest of the bottom is anatomy, he has no idea. Yeah, it's like, prostate, and then. Interworkings, if things, now. Is that your shoulder? No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:10:39 That's not what it's like. No, when they check your prostate, you're gonna hit 40 soon, you are gonna get at some point so I already got mine done you're gonna get a good luck you are gonna get a digit in your butt and they're gonna check a prostate just what happens wow what's in it when do I this was back to my store I told you guys this with that guy who was like from Turkey
Starting point is 00:10:57 and he had these huge hairy fingers I was like really upset about this oh it's like isn't there a nurse or something? And he was the only one on staff. And he just like just invaded me. I just picture this. This big hum Gary. Yeah, he was like,
Starting point is 00:11:13 he was like, fat sausage finger. Oh, and the worst part was like, he was like acting like, oh God, like he was all disgusted. I'm like, I might get least like, give you some courtesy here, you know? Like, maybe feel good. I might be feel good, like, pretty or something.
Starting point is 00:11:27 What do you want him to tell you? Yeah, like get a great backside. That's something, dude. Like, I don't know, not like, like, like, looking away. He did that. I'm like, your doctor for, for good is saying, be professional about this. He's like, I've only been a doctor for two years. I was mechanic and construction worker before.
Starting point is 00:11:43 Yeah. My hands are little strong. Back then, my insurance wasn't that great. So, let's get put that out. Yeah, now you can have to go through that, Adam. Actually, did you know that, so the receptors that cause the prostate to enlarge are the same receptors in the scalp that cause hair loss.
Starting point is 00:12:01 So, yep, so you may be at higher risk for prostate. I like it, you've read that right in my hair loss. So, yep. So, you may be at higher risk for prostate. I like it. You've read that right into my hair loss. You might have a little finger in there. I've got a good doctor recommended. Figure out what's happening. Yeah. So anyway, so she did that and now we're going to wait and see what happens. Yeah. Fingers crossed. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:19 Yeah. And it's got a good enough finger talk to you. Lots of fingers. I got something though, a dad stuff for you. I want to ask you guys, so last night, so Katrina's up in Tahoe. Last night was a home alone night for me, which is awesome.
Starting point is 00:12:33 I haven't had that in a long time. So, I'm eating Cheetos and... I did have a burger, so I ordered a burger. I even, you know what I did that I haven't done in forever. I went into my storage and stuff and got the balling out. I haven't took a ball. Oh my god, you hit a ball. I did, yeah, of course I have a ball.
Starting point is 00:12:50 Come on, dude. Yeah, it's stored away though. I haven't used it in years, right? So, but I was like, you know what? It hit the ball, it's old school. People still do that. You know what made me think about it. I was like, I may not be able to do this for another 20 years
Starting point is 00:13:02 or whatever that. They're taking advantage of this. I'm just gonna use the ball. Yeah, so I wouldn't, I just, you imagine your son'd like to get bandages up. You need to use the bomb. Yeah, so I wouldn't, I just, you imagine your son's a teenager and he walks in up, oh, he opens the door. I forgot something mom will put the door dad's hitting a bomb. Yeah. Well, that's why I figured, okay, this is like one of the few times I might have an opportunity
Starting point is 00:13:17 to do this. Now, did it just blast you? Well, I didn't go crazy. And I'm saying I wasn't trying to get totally ripped by myself, but I was like, you know, I was setting the mood for the night. I'm like, I got, uh, got my music on. Yeah, my sense burning the music playing. I'm getting ready for Costco size movie. Fat of Lou. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:32 Whoa. I was alone too last night. We'll get to your night in a minute. But what I actually was very innocent, what I'm going to share with you guys, I'm setting a setting the table like it was bad. It wasn't like that, but I'm just, this is what I'm gonna share with you guys. I'm setting the table like it was bad, it wasn't like that, but I'm just, this is what I'm doing, right? And the reason why I brought that up because I don't know if it was the weed
Starting point is 00:13:49 that made me emotional or what, but I'm watching this new show on Netflix, it just, I just picture this cry after you get the bar. No, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen. So I watched Barbarian, have you guys seen that on Netflix yet? Oh, I haven't seen that yet, is it good? Yeah, it's a new series, right? And it looked really interesting.
Starting point is 00:14:07 It was very much so a show that Katrina and I were not watch with me. So that's what I always try and choose. I'm going through it like if it's my night to pick and she's got no say, what am I watching? So Barbarian was the show. And it's obviously done somewhere else because they got the lips not matching up with
Starting point is 00:14:28 Yeah, no no subtitles. There's no subtitles. It's like So I'm watching this right and it gets to a scene. This was weird from here. This isn't there. I've never experienced this and there's a scene where The barbaric like a Rome comes in and is invading these little small villages and there are these villages of barbarians and Rome wants like your firstborn son and and something else in like your cattle and some shit like that and like in order to not get your village Fucking burned you have to do this and so And I'm watching, and they have this scene where the dad gives is like, you know, eight month old or a year old son to them.
Starting point is 00:15:14 And I had never, like, I've seen movies like that that have situations like this. It wasn't the first time I'd seen something like this. And I get all fucking weird feeling. It's different. I had to turn it off. Yeah, it was so true. Dude, I get all fucking weird feeling. It's different. I had to turn it off. It was so true. Dude, I got all fucking emotional over it.
Starting point is 00:15:29 I got angry. And it was like, it just ruined my night. I had to change the movie because it was so about the candles turned into light. And I couldn't figure out was it because. Try and explain that to your single buddies. I don't know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:41 I just, it was a weird, it was a weird new feeling that I had never experienced watching a movie like that. And I don't know if maybe the scene was so long and drawn out or they're so emotional because they just, you know, showing the dad and him. But boy, it just ruined the show for me. I couldn't get into it because you could relate
Starting point is 00:15:58 to the guy, the father, who had to give up a son. Because now you have a son. That, the first time that happened to me, my son was, I don't know how it'll do, it was six months old. He was a baby, maybe a year old, and we're sitting on the couch together and I got my little boy, you know, I said, I'm a new dad and I'm like, oh, finding Nemo.
Starting point is 00:16:15 Let's watch Finding Nemo. It's a freaking animated movie. And when he loses, when the dad, Marlon, loses Nemo in the ocean and the guy, the fisherman scoops him up. Yeah. I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm
Starting point is 00:16:31 like, I remember I did the same thing. I paused it and my son's looking at me like, why'd you, yeah, I stopped it and I had to think about like, okay, what, I really wanted to wrap my brain around, although this would never happen in our society day, but I still had to wrap my brain around, like, what would I do? Like, because you have this, so this. What would I do if the Romans came? Roy, well, the father is like the head of the village, right? So he's got hundreds of people he's responsible for,
Starting point is 00:16:53 and this is like, it was a peace offering and treaty by giving his son, and so, and it did allow peace for the next 20, 30 years between their village and the Romans, and so. So it's like, don't give my son and everybody dies Yeah, exactly don't give your son everybody gets murdered or give my son and then I save the village and I thought fuck Do I go down and just I'm go down fighting and kill whoever I can and then everybody's dead because of me or do I literally Mark with my son and allow that and boy. I just I was, I couldn't come to grips with what I would do.
Starting point is 00:17:25 I gotta change this shit. It was ruining my mood, dude. It's so true, dude. You have kids, you're, you're immediate. That's what I mean. We know when I always say like, your vulnerability is apparent. Like before, you were apparent,
Starting point is 00:17:39 you had no vulnerability. You were untouchable. You don't realize it. You think you're not untouchable. Yeah, I think if I, it's because I've seen scenes like this before and I think in the past to be like, ah fuck down, just kill him or whatever, you know what I'm saying? I didn't even think twice before. I remember exactly. So you guys remember the movie 300, of course, right? And I watched that before and then I watched it again, you know, after I've had my kids and it was that same thing,
Starting point is 00:18:03 but it was the scene where the one soldier, like his son decided to go with him into battle, and then they chopped his son's head off, and then he just loses shit, you know? And I was like, oh! And that one got me in a totally different way, so totally, yeah. I just got that, that was a new experience for me, for sure.
Starting point is 00:18:22 I just got the chills and almost started crying right now. Right. Right, there's the button now. You know, it's speaking of which, I dysfunction on Facebook, and I don't know if you go through this just or even you dug, Facebook will show you random like flashback photos. So like 10 years ago, do, eight years ago,
Starting point is 00:18:41 and I just got one. It was eight years ago. It was my son and my daughter at one of my son's soccer he was like playing guitar and like singing in his little tiny voice. You know, I'm like, I had to shut it off immediately. Yeah, and it's stuff that now, we can keep the feelings away. I totally had it just in my mature, I was like, I'm buying it. I was like, I'm buying it.
Starting point is 00:18:58 I'm buying it. I'm buying it. I'm buying it. I'm buying it. I'm buying it. I'm buying it. I'm buying it. I'm buying it. I'm buying it. I'm buying it. I'm like, yeah! I had to shut it off immediately. Yeah, yeah. And it's stuff that's down, we can keep the feelings to live.
Starting point is 00:19:07 Even a way for you. I totally had a Justin Moatura. I was like, I'm like, stuff that down. It was exactly how I felt. I felt like I can't buy myself. I'm a professional with that. I'm trying to figure out how to not do that. What a degenerate I had to look like
Starting point is 00:19:18 bang between my legs. I'm sitting here all by myself, fucking crying in the living room. Like, oh my God. You're going, calling Katrina, could you come home? God, I don't want to be alone anymore. Oh, yeah. That was so new to me.
Starting point is 00:19:31 It was not ready for that. Yeah, that's because you love your kid, man. I mean, yeah, right? I hope so. I hope that's all that means, but that was different for sure. So that's, it'll be interesting now as like more things like that unfold. How, that I'd probably experienced before and never thought twice about that. I just had a mini feeling of a panic attack last night because I'm getting so close to having another baby.
Starting point is 00:19:51 And I'm just thinking about my kids and I'm realizing like I just hit the reset button. Like I got another one. Oh my God. And all the challenges and the vulnerability. And I'm like, I'm adding another one of the mix and you know, call myself down like, you know, because at the end of the vulnerability, and I'm adding another one of the mix, and you know, I'd call myself down like, you know, because at the end of the day, it's the most, I mean, at least for me, it's the most valuable, meaningful thing I've ever experienced ever.
Starting point is 00:20:13 And part of it is because it's so damn hard. Hey, did you guys watch the, I sent you all over a podcast interview of Peter Lennon, manager. Oh, I watched that. Did you watch that too? Yes, I did. Justin, did you get your chance to watch?
Starting point is 00:20:27 I watched part of it, yeah, I didn't make it all the way through, but I watched like at least half of it. Did you fall asleep? Yeah, too much. I love that stuff. I knew you guys love it. I appreciate it, but yeah. I don't get into as much.
Starting point is 00:20:37 Well, what I loved about his conversation was there was two different times in there where the interviewer tried to take him in a direction that was, he asked him a question that seemed political and he called them out and said, like, no, that's not economic, that's politics, that has nothing to do with that. So I really appreciate listening to a very non biased opinion on our economy. Like it's one of the hardest things to do is to not, like if you tune into a CNN and our Fox News and they have an economist on there, he's always, his messaging is aligned with the network
Starting point is 00:21:09 and aligned with a political message. So it's like, you know, or then you even hear other guys that like if they sell gold or something and they're gonna scare you into what could potentially happen. So, you know, so you always, it's hard to find somebody that I feel gives you really good data that's not skewed to make you fear and go in one direction.
Starting point is 00:21:27 Yeah, well a couple takeaways that I thought were interesting. The one part where he mentioned income inequality, I had not even considered that. Very cool part. Yeah, he said, you know, he goes as societies become more advanced, one reason why income inequality will always become larger is because if you are highly skilled in a modern society, the amount of productivity that you can produce is vastly higher than it was 50 years ago when you were educated and had skills and compared to somebody
Starting point is 00:21:59 who wasn't as educated or as much skill. So like today, you can be, and this is just efficiency, this is why the economy grows and wealth grows. You don't realize how efficient you are, but when you're working at your computer, at your desk and your highly skilled in specific and what you do, you're the productivity that you're producing is tremendous.
Starting point is 00:22:19 It's absolutely tremendous. So when you compare that person to an entry level worker, it's just vastly, it's light years ahead. And then of course, when you are wealthy, your money, if it grows at the same rate as somebody who's not wealthy, you still make significantly more. For example, $100,000 growing at 10% is, it's the same percentage.
Starting point is 00:22:44 If you grow $100,000 at 10% versus $10,000 at 10%, both It's the same percent if you grow a hundred thousand dollars at 10% versus ten thousand dollars at 10% Both grow at the same percentage, but you got way more money at 10% at a hundred thousand dollars. It's just a larger Number so you add those two things up The other thing that he said that was really interesting was How all these all the money that they're injecting into the economy Through you know quantitative easing, right? That's what they call it, where they're just basically printing money
Starting point is 00:23:09 to make things more what they would say liquid. That is we are gonna see inflation and it's mainly gonna be asset inflation. So like stocks and houses, we're already seeing this. So that was a paradigm shattering moment for me because up until hearing him talk about this, that has been one of the things So I really, that was a paradigm shattering moment for me because up until hearing him talk about this, that has been one of the things that I think, I've always been really fearful of and concerned, right?
Starting point is 00:23:32 And you know, especially you talked to someone like a Peter Schiff, who was like, oh, this is how we destroy, and then you look at history too with all the money you have to destroy, that there's this big fear around, oh my God, we do, we infuse two trillion dollars into our economy. That's God, I just destroy the dollar.
Starting point is 00:23:49 But when he brought into perspective, what, you know, and he actually predicts, we're gonna bring it all the way up to eight trillion. So right now we're at two trillion, they're trying to pass another two trillion. He believes by the end of next year, we'll do another two trillion. So he's saying that we'll be at eight trillion in debt,
Starting point is 00:24:03 which still sounds like, oh my God,, I brought up that statistic the other day of 22% of the money in circulation right now in, in the United States was printed this year. And like, all that stuff scares a shit out of me. Like, that's going to just kill our economy. It's going to kill the dollar. And, but when he, when he talked about what that was in perspective to the GDP and what percentage of that and what that what what our total wealth creation all that stuff. Yeah. And it's 1%. Even 8 trillion is 1% of the GDP every year and what that will increase. It was a number, another number he used, but he was talking about like total production aside from GDP. I can't remember
Starting point is 00:24:42 what number to use, but it was like $800 trillion. Yeah. Yeah. And so the amount, and then that's not even what it would increase the yearly payment back. Yeah, because the interest rates are so low. So I mean, this all sounds kind of whatever, but really what this means is that money is gonna be cheap
Starting point is 00:25:01 to borrow for probably a long time. And what ends up happening is you start to see prices go up of certain things. And he made a really good point that it's gonna be assets. So if you're listening and you wanna kinda like figure out how to either invest your money or protect it, one way to kinda do this is to invest in assets, like properties, for example.
Starting point is 00:25:23 Those values will go up a lot. That was another thing that I also, that I really love this interview, I actually listened to it twice because I liked it so much. I've been holding off on purchasing our own home, although we're doing investment properties so that I haven't purchased on it.
Starting point is 00:25:39 And one of my fears is just where the Bay Area is at, it just seems impossible. It's like there's no way these values can continue to go up, but listening to him talk and explain that it's almost inevitable that it's going to, it has to. Because here's the deal. The one thing about the going eight trillion in depth, yeah, we have the money, yeah, we're fine,
Starting point is 00:25:59 no, it's not gonna kill the dollar, it's not even that big of a deal, but somebody and something has to pay. Like the money has to go somewhere. With it's, it's inflation's inevitable. It's just a matter of, do we see the dollar just collapse or do we see things like asset inflation? And who is going to pay for that back?
Starting point is 00:26:15 Like who's going to get taxed for it? And that's where the political stuff happens. Why things take so long to get passed because there's, you know, you have one, the conservatives and you have the liberals going, no, we don't want them to pay, we don't want these people to pay. And so that's where all the who pays.
Starting point is 00:26:28 Yeah, it's all who pays. It's not whether we should do it or we shouldn't do it, which is interesting to me, because that's the argument I feel like we've been presented most of the time is like, should we or should we not do it? And doing it's just gonna absolutely kill the dollar, and it's gonna be so bad, but it's really not about that.
Starting point is 00:26:42 It's, yes, we should, yes, we can, and yes, we will. It's after it's all be so bad, but it's really not about that. It's, yes, we should, yes, we can, and yes, we will. It's after it's all said and done, who's gonna pay the price for the employees? Did he get into cryptocurrency at all? I didn't get that from him. No, he did it. I'll tell you what, one, I wish they did this.
Starting point is 00:26:56 I wish it was mandatory learning in high school that you learned basic investment, basic interest rates, and how to buy a house, and what loans mean, because that really hurts people. It would help our whole society if everybody was educated in that direction. It would totally. And you know, it's, I'm trying to use an analogy, I can't think of, okay, you know what it reminds me of?
Starting point is 00:27:22 Okay, when we did our YouTube channel, the Mind Pump YouTube channel, getting to the first 10,000 subscribers was a grind. Then getting to the first 100,000 was a really hard grind, and then it accelerated after that, right? So it's like when you're dealing with your own wealth or money, that initial like getting started and kind of building, that takes a long time, but then as it starts to build momentum, it happens faster and faster and faster.
Starting point is 00:27:49 And it's definitely one of those things where it's better to think about it when you're young than when you're old. Like the difference of investing five years earlier versus five years later turns into millions of dollars. It's all because of you brought this up the other day, the narrative that we've been to millions of dollars. It's all because of the, you brought this up to the other day, the narrative that we've been told that, you know, getting, buying your own, getting a job, right, and getting your 401K and setting yourself, your retirement up
Starting point is 00:28:12 and buying your house is like part of the American dream. It's at the ideal situation and it's really not. I mean, I wish I understood that in my early 20s when I first was making money and starting to start saving, that locking myself into a big mortgage and putting a down payment on a house is not necessarily the best investment for my money. And if I were to have taken that money
Starting point is 00:28:34 and invested it smarter when I was younger, where it would be at today. And I think you're right. So it's always blown my mind that there's not a lot that would spent on this. I think like self awareness and economics are two things that just are not taught to young people enough. And those two things I think have absolutely changed who I am, the success that I've had
Starting point is 00:28:59 as a person, as an individual, both financially and personally, and those things came way later in life for me. I had to go read it myself and go figure it out where it was never taught to. Also, it influences your politics. Right. Oh, which is a big factor. Oh, it's hard for me to have conversations because the lack of education with economics.
Starting point is 00:29:19 Oh, no. If you want to be able to look behind the curtain when you're with politics, understand economics, then it's much easier to see what's actually being done. Yeah, what's actually being done and what's not being done and what's being said. It makes a really big difference, but it really goes even this far. It's like once you understand and think about, oh, you have to do really just switch the way you think and think, what am I getting for this money that I'm spending?
Starting point is 00:29:46 Like, what am I getting in return? So if you think to yourself, okay, I, every morning, I spend five dollars on a Starbucks coffee, okay? What do I get in return? Well, I get this coffee that I like, right? And that's costing me $150 a month. What if I didn't spend $150 a month on coffee? What could I get for that money? And you can do it this way. You can think, what can I get for 150? What can I get for 300?
Starting point is 00:30:12 That's two months for sports and savings. What can I get for that whole year and what's the value? And it can be as simple as this. Like if I save that much for a year, that might be able to pay for, you know, a small vacation. Is one vacation more valuable to me than having a Starbucks every morning where I can make coffee at home and save that 150? So it's really that mindset, that's all it is. That was the only thing I disagreed with him was, and I know you did too, because you sent me a text
Starting point is 00:30:39 after you watched it, it was the first thing you said to me and I'm like, that's so funny, because that's the one thing that I didn't agree with either. Which, you know, he predicted everything that was going to happen right now, except for the rise in single family homes. He just didn't think that with all the unemployment and everything that there was no way
Starting point is 00:30:55 that single home prices were gonna, there's not gonna be enough people that I wanted to buy. But what he attributes that to is what I disagree with. He attributes that to the- Unintended sense. No, involuntary savings. Or that, yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:07 In involuntary savings, meaning that these last four to six months, lots of Americans were planning on Disney trips and going on their vacations to Europe. So, they saved all this extra money. So, they had this extra money when it came time around right now to potentially buy a house and because interest rates are so low, they said, oh, instead of, we didn't spend any of that money on traveling. So now it's buy a house. I don't know if most people, at least most people that I know, sure, I'm going to make that
Starting point is 00:31:40 big of an effort. Yeah, exactly. So at least in my leap, at least here, right? So where we live and the friends that I have, like, and I have too, like, so there was definitely involuntary saving for me. Like, I don't know about you guys, but I didn't spend a lot of money in the last four to five months.
Starting point is 00:31:55 I saved more than what I would have been able to because I'm normally traveling and doing things, but not enough to sway me over to like, oh, now I'm going, but I also recognize that that's where, that's my circle. I'm in the Bay Area. So two vacations canceled is not enough for you to have down payment, but maybe
Starting point is 00:32:13 somebody in the Midwest, you know, who all the year goes to Europe or does something like that. You know, that's an extra 10 or 20,000. Oh, a hundred thousand dollar house. Do you want to need 20 grand? Right. So maybe. Yeah, so maybe, you know, the rest of the United States, but I felt like for us, I was like, they can't be true for me.
Starting point is 00:32:31 Yeah, it's that mindset, right? It's that whole mindset, what am I getting for this? What kind of value am I getting in return? You know, like, I want to buy a nice car, is that something that I'm going to get a lot of value in, or do I not really care, and what I prefer to take this money and spend it in other places? And I think if we think that way,
Starting point is 00:32:49 we'll make better healthier decisions. And then of course the side effect of that is the market starts to reflect on. I just think it's crazy that he's claiming that we're gonna see an asset run the same way that we saw after 07. So in like 0809, what the- So we'll see stock market continue go off. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:33:05 he says that stocks, housing, all that is going to wear you know office space, all those things are going to you know once we kind of and he said you know what he can't predict is when right he thinks for sure all of next year we won't be back to completely normal. He says it won't be until the until we're moving into 2022 before we, he thinks we're gonna be fully recovered. Probably because, I don't know if you guys are watching right now with the coronavirus, it's spiking again, right? What, it predictably, it's predictably spiking again. So I'm sure we're gonna, and in Europe right now,
Starting point is 00:33:35 they're starting to talk about lockdowns again. And people are like, no. Yeah, wasn't he, he'd like telling you to pay attention to the stadiums and like how full they were, what not to see where we were in terms of our economy. Yeah, he said that, which I think is a great indicator, right? Like you're 70,000 fans in a NFL game or whatever I thought, and when you see everybody in there, and what do you know people are more comfortable with?
Starting point is 00:33:57 That's, and that's what he means by that is this, is that even as the economy starts to open back up, even as we get a vaccine, even as we start to get better treatments for all this, there's still gonna be a lag time when everybody feels really comfortable about it. Like the storm will have to have passed for some time before everybody comes back to normal. I mean, even myself,
Starting point is 00:34:19 like I'm definitely not somebody who is as afraid of this situation we're in as some of my friends are, but it doesn't mean I still don't take a bunch of precaution. I'm not going to the movie theater. I'm not going to events that are enclosed, and back to the other day, for the first time, and almost a year I went to the mall, and it was just a weird experience.
Starting point is 00:34:40 I haven't done something like that, and I was doing it specifically because we have Katrina's birthday coming up So I wanted to go there otherwise I wouldn't be there and so there's gonna be a lot of that There's gonna be a lot of people that are gonna choose not to go to games You know because they don't need to go to games right now and so as you start to see Society get more comfortable with that and when it's filled back up again He says that that will be like our indicator that it's back to normal and then we'll see everything start to
Starting point is 00:35:04 Realize a lesson now there's a there's a wrench in that too, which is up again, he says that that will be like our indicator that it's back to normal. And then we'll see everything start to re-assel us. Well, now there's a wrench in that too, which is, and they were talking about this, the World Health Organization was talking about this, that people are having virus fatigue. And I don't mean virus fatigue, like they got sick and they're tired, but rather, they're fatigued with the fear. Acrosion. Acrosion? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:23 So a lot of people are like, I don't care what happens right now. I don't want to go back and do the lockdowns and stuff and they're finding it hard. I know in Italy, there were protests because the cases went way down. Italy had some of the strictest lockdowns. Now the cases are spiking like crazy and people are like, nope,
Starting point is 00:35:40 we're not gonna go through with this anymore. Yeah, Justin, you brought up the NFL. Did you see Juve signed with the Niners? I did see that. I was super excited. I was like, on the Niners, I actually saw them post about it on Instagram. And I got like excited, commented on there.
Starting point is 00:35:55 But they have, they're the first NFL team to actually adopt Juve Red Light as a valid recovery in therapy. And so they have it all set up, so they got these big panels after they go for their workouts, they go through their practice, they can go stand in front of these panels and get the active recovery.
Starting point is 00:36:15 There it is right there, look at that. It's so badass. Dude, okay, so it legit works. I know it sounds crazy. Oh, you wouldn't see an NFL team doing it if it didn't. Yeah, they're always on cutting edge stuff, right? It is. No, for real works.
Starting point is 00:36:29 In fact, there was a study, I'm going to pull it up here. So they did a study. So all the studies so far that I've seen on something like skin, right? People will use red light therapy. They'll do it two days a week or three days a week. And a big majority of them will say that they noticed significant changes in their skin, or the scientists will say their skin looks a lot better. But it's all, I mean, that sounds very subjective, right? My skin looks better, your skin looks better. So they did one study where
Starting point is 00:36:56 they actually tested the density of collagen. So they did a study, they used ultrasound, they did an ultrasound and they measured the density of collagen in someone's skin. So they had a bunch of people, you do red light therapy, like the Juve, two days a week. So they didn't even use it every single day, two days a week. And there was a significant increase in collagen density in the skin. So it legit works. So things for like stretch marks, scars, wrinkles, and then as it goes in deeper in the body, it improves recovery, which is why you see athletes using that stuff more and more. I'm so proud of it.
Starting point is 00:37:37 I'm so proud of the partners that we've decided to work with. It's really cool right now. It feels good to see them get like this stuff, right? Like we talk about, I mean, we've been with Juve now for over two and a half, three years now. Yeah. So I remember when we first met him and we learned all about it.
Starting point is 00:37:53 Like, so it was very cool to see, we were the first podcast, we were like the first advertising. They weren't even doing any advertising when we first linked up with them to see what they're doing, what Viori's doing, what Felix Gray is doing. Like magic spoon, I was gonna bring them up and on my night by myself, you know,
Starting point is 00:38:10 like I got to like treat, have a treat and it was nice because I could just go grab a bowl and sit and watch I watched a Deadpool 2 and I was eating some blueberry. But I saw, I got an email, they have two new flavors. You guys even know about these, dude. Yeah, they did another poll And I guess that they concluded that people really wanted to see if they could have apple cinnamon and
Starting point is 00:38:31 Salted caramel. Oh my god, I was like I started drooling you guys are like you guys turn into like two I just want the bond So you were watching TV with a big bull. Yeah, well, I mean, I had an edible. I was feeling it too. Yeah. The things we do with it. The delicious. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:38:51 That is so funny. I actually didn't have it last night, but I mean, I also got filled up on a burger. I haven't had burger and fries in a long time, so I was filled up on it. But I mean, after that, I mean, the last time we talked about magic spoon, I'm still blowing away by the macro breakdown when you eat the whole box.
Starting point is 00:39:04 Yeah. By the way, okay. That's not recommended. I I can't find somebody that doesn't like it. It's crazy. No, I haven't met anybody as an either So you're eating the whole box, huh? No, that's in one time, dude So I'm not okay. I don't want to promote that right? So I don't I don't think that 770 calories in like what was it? 971 grams of protein. Yeah, so like that. Yeah. Now, where did you get your burger from? Five guys. Oh, it's always five guys. No, not always.
Starting point is 00:39:28 So, in and out doesn't deliver on Dordash. Or else, I would do in and out, but in and out doesn't do that. You know, we had, I didn't know that. You know, we had last night. You guys ever eat Peruvian food? There's one over by the, No, one over by the,
Starting point is 00:39:43 What was that look like? Whatever by the mall, that's amazing. Over by Valley Fair. Is it off of West, off of... I can't think of the street right now. I think that's the place that we always go. Yeah, that's the one that's well on the street. So there's a dish called Lomo, Soltaldo.
Starting point is 00:39:55 Do you have, is that the one that? Is that like the steak and potatoes and... So there's like stear, it's... There's french fries, fries, and this is like my favorite dish. Just like brown sauce and... But it's like comfort food, dude. Yeah, so this is my favorite dish. Just like brown sauce and good. But it's like comfort food, dude. Yeah, so we had that last night. It's good.
Starting point is 00:40:10 It's full food. Oh, bro, I crushed. Did you have a deliverer? Did you go there? No, they were closed, so I found another, so we actually, so here's a deal, okay. Pregnant wife had a craving. So we drove an hour away and went up to Redwood City.
Starting point is 00:40:21 That's right, you're bound to that, you're family. You did, you drove an hour to go get it? We almost, right? So Redwood City, so it took us you're bound to that, you're family. You're driven hour to go get it? We almost, right? So Redwood City, so it took us like 40 something minutes. Oh my God. And we had some low amounts. That's hilarious. I just, you know what?
Starting point is 00:40:32 I actually haven't even asked you about her. Is she had any weird real cravings? Is she doing something? You know, let me try and think right now. Yeah. She was crazy with the oranges. Okay, so here's a weird one. So she'd never, and I didn't know this about her.
Starting point is 00:40:44 She'd never had kiwis before in her life, never had Kiwi. So she was sitting there one day, this was like, I wanna say month and a half or two months ago, she said she was at home and she just got a craving. This is what's weird about it. I love Kiwis. For Kiwis, but she's never had them before.
Starting point is 00:41:00 So she was at home, had a craving for Kiwis, had to drive to Whole Foods and buy. She's seen a commercial or anything, and this was just like a random thought. It's so weird that her brain literally said to her, this food you've never had before is what you crave. That is so strange. It is bizarre.
Starting point is 00:41:15 So that's how the orange is kind of worth for kiwis to continue to never eat. I've never seen kiwis to eat it orange. But at least it tasted an orange. Right, right, of course. It's not that foreign to her. So she went to the store and bought kiwis, like the sliced kiwis at Whole Foods.
Starting point is 00:41:25 Yeah, so good. And it totally hit the craving, and then she'd eat them every day, Wow. Basically since, which I thought was a trip. Very, very, very strange. Never ate them before, so that's wild. This quaz brought to you by Organify.
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Starting point is 00:42:07 What do you think about plyometrics? How can I incorporate plyometrics and functional training into my routine? This is right after geometry and algebra is that right? I was also like, I was terrible at this. I'm taking a lot of plyometrics and therapy. Yeah, no, you know what's funny? My mind has changed a little bit on this
Starting point is 00:42:27 relatively recently, talking to our good friend, Joe DeFranco. And of course, like anything, right? And this makes perfect sense. Like anything, there's varying degrees of how you can apply and how hard you do it, right? So like if someone says, what do you think about heavy lifting? Well, heavy lifting is all relative.
Starting point is 00:42:43 It depends on the person who's doing it and what the context is. What might be heavy for my grandmother? This is obviously going to be very light for me, but challenging the body that way is going to be benefits. Same thing with plyometrics. And what he said to me, which ring totally true, is if you stop training a particular skill, you'll eventually lose that skill.
Starting point is 00:43:02 Now I've experienced that myself. You don't use it. I have. I've experienced that myself. You don't use it, you lose it. I have, I've experienced it myself where I go to the park and I'm playing frizz with my kid and I go to jump and twist and feel like it's not, I'm not moving like I think I could. And it's because I haven't trained jumping or twisting or those type of explosive movements.
Starting point is 00:43:18 So, plyometrics from a health standpoint, train them appropriately and properly is to be able to maintain that kind of movement. If you wanna be able to, if you miss a step and catch yourself, or if you wanna jump off the curb, or jump down off of the back of your truck, or you wanna reach up and grab something real quick,
Starting point is 00:43:40 cause someone throws something at you or whatever, plyometrics helps you maintain that ability. Now from an advanced point of view, plyometrics improves explosive power, and plyometrics activate fast twitch muscle fibers better than almost any other form of training. Now why is that important? Well fast twitch muscle fibers are the muscle fibers
Starting point is 00:44:00 that grow and build. And so if you're just interested in overall fitness and want to build muscle, so long as it's done appropriately, plyometrics will send a very loud and different signal to the muscles to build and grow. Well, it's also about maintaining abilities. I know that not everybody wants to be an athlete, not everybody wants to be able to move super explosively and sprint on command or slow down
Starting point is 00:44:27 really efficiently and effectively and change directions, but you can take elements of that to your average person and really benefit their lifestyle substantially. So like you give examples of when you're reaching back for a car really quickly to, you know, brace something or, when you're reaching back for a car really quickly to, you know, brace something or, you know, somebody, something falls from a shelf and you have to react like super aggressively. And if you don't have, if your body doesn't recognize how to react in a situation like that, this is just one of those instances where you will suffer the consequences of that. The body's going to have to adjust and react how it's going to adjust. And a lot of times it will get injured as a result because you're neglecting this side of training, which
Starting point is 00:45:11 is definitely component. The other thing to plyometrics to consider, I mean, this is one of those where it's at the pinnacle of your training in terms of like what attributes you're trying to achieve. And so I look at it as, you know, this is sort of like a testing grounds, like even if it's just like your average person that's been training their way up the rungs to get to a certain point where now if you move explosively, you have to put in all that groundwork to be able to stabilize and get your body under control as quickly as you're able to explosively move into that position.
Starting point is 00:45:50 So it's a good test as well. I've always thought that plyometrics belong in programming. I just think that they've been poorly done. That's all. Yeah, no one does them right. Yeah, I definitely think they belong and I think they belong in somewhat and everybody's routine And when you don't I mean I experienced I Think I've shared on this podcast at least once or twice the story of me jumping out of the back of my my bed of my truck
Starting point is 00:46:16 That was the first kind of rude awakening for myself that oh wow I've really neglected this type of training. I did a lot of it in my 20s And even like into my early 30s, right before competing, competing really, I became so focused on aesthetics that I completely eliminated plyometrics in my training. It wasn't a goal, it wasn't a focus of mine. And I really didn't see the consequences of that until that day.
Starting point is 00:46:41 I had had registered, I hadn't had it a moment or a time. I wasn't playing basketball at the time. I hadn't registered. I hadn't had it to a moment or a time. I wasn't playing basketball at the time. I hadn't done anything explosively. That was the first time I called on my body to do something that I believed I could easily do. And I jumped down from the truck, and I was fine, but boy, it felt like somebody took a baseball bat to my knees, and I was like, whoa.
Starting point is 00:47:02 And I was like, well, this is what I get. When was the last time, you know, Adam, you did a, you know, jump off of a box or jump up to a box. And when I thought about it, I was like, man, it's been five, six years since I've done something like that. And that inspired me to get back into incorporating it into my training. Now, it doesn't mean that like my training also
Starting point is 00:47:19 in terms of this, you know, explosive, plyometric, circuit-based lifting routine all the time, just means like, hey, I need to have some jump boxes in there, or where you step down from a jump box and work on the deceleration of the squat or the jump, or some sort of explosive lateral movements with the tube or something like that, because you don't want it like Justin alluded to. You don't want to lose it. If you don't want to lose those abilities on things that you may do in real life, then yeah,
Starting point is 00:47:47 then it belongs to the program. I just, we need to talk about how it's poorly programmed. And the way it's poorly programmed most commonly is people do it to fatigue. And that's not the idea. The idea is that you want to be able to be comfortable just to give the analogy of reaching back to the car real quick or something falling off a shelf and then being able to react.
Starting point is 00:48:08 So when you do that, you don't do that 15 repetitions or 30 repetitions, like you do that one time. You know, it happens and then you have to be able to do it. So that's how you should emulate it in your training. One to three reps. And there should be plenty of rest in between and it's all about the movement of it. And then there's prerequisites before you do that.
Starting point is 00:48:27 If you can't step up onto a box with beautiful form, you shouldn't jump up onto a box. That should be the first and foremost. You should be able to step up onto a box with good technique, good stability, good form, good control. And then the progression of that is the ability to be able to jump up onto the box with good form. And then when you finally get to that place
Starting point is 00:48:46 where you're jumping up onto the box, you don't need to be doing 10 to 15 reps in a circuit-based type of routine or with low-res periods. You do three to five jump boxes and you rest in between every rep and you'd be very meticulous about how you move and how you land and how you take off.
Starting point is 00:49:04 And that's where the emphasis is put When you put it into your program. So yes, I think apply a metrics functional training Belongs and everybody's routine no matter the age But the way you apply it into there really depends on their level have they done the prerequisites to get to that point and then to make sure if You're somebody who is not an athlete and it's not a high priority, that you just intermittently introduce it into your routine enough that you don't lose it. Like that's the two common mistakes that I see when you see people talking about or utilizing plyometrics.
Starting point is 00:49:37 Next question is from Lisa J. Kennedy 75. Do deadlifts give you a thicker midsection? I love doing them and have gained a great deal of strength in my back from them. However, as a female, I worry that my midsection is thicker as a result. This is another one of these myths that are out there. I hate this one. This one really makes me upset. So first of all, you don't want to look at the extreme top lifters of any sport and look at their physique and judge their physique and say, oh, that's why their physique necessarily looks that way. First off, people who can deadlift ungodly amounts of weight naturally probably already
Starting point is 00:50:13 have thicker waist, okay? And eat tons of. Yeah, and then many of them may be on anabolic steroids. There's lots of muscle being built. Here's a deal. If you want a smaller waist, get leaner. Even if you develop the muscles around your waist, you're not going to develop a much thicker waist.
Starting point is 00:50:28 You might get, I don't know, a couple centimeters of thickness around in terms of lean muscle around the waist, but you're going to appear leaner and more sculpted. It's, this myth makes me upset because people tend to neglect training. The muscles around the core, like the obliques, because they're afraid they're gonna get a thicker waist.
Starting point is 00:50:47 And what ends up happening is they lose function, they lose strength. And the truth is, if you're lean, your waist is gonna be small. And if you have muscle around your waist and your lean, not only are you gonna have a small waist, it's gonna look more impressive. I think this is like, I think of when I was competing, like we're constantly focusing on building my shoulders
Starting point is 00:51:10 and the width of my back to give this illusion that my waist is smaller, even though my waist wasn't technically really shrinking, right? So if you are training the obliques, you're training exercises that may even thicken, like who cares, if it puts on a quarter inch on your waist, but puts three inches on the width of your back, the ratio,
Starting point is 00:51:33 when you look in the mirror or somebody else looks at you, we'll look as if your waist is smaller and it'll look more shapely too. So, man, adding a half inch, your waist of muscle is a lot by the way. Yeah, you can don't realize that doesn't happen doesn't have exactly those exaggerated numbers. It's very, very unlikely you would even do that, but I'm saying even if you did do that, it's a lot easier to add that width to the top of your body to the tops of your shoulder
Starting point is 00:51:55 caps and the width of your back. So, as long as that ratio either stays the same or it increases because you've built your back up and your shoulders, it's going to give the illusion of your waist being even tighter. Small, I also think there's a point to address here about training with and without the belt. Sal, you talk a lot about training with a belt, you train your core and midsection to do something different than what you do if you train without a belt. If you go to a deadlift and you don't wear a belt,
Starting point is 00:52:22 you have to think about the vacuum pose. You end up, you're transverse abdominis, you contract inward, inward and you tighten up and you shrink the waist to be tighter and stiff around your spine for when you lift. If you always wear a belt when you deadlift, you actually train the cord to push out. So if you are concerned about your waist looking small
Starting point is 00:52:43 or staying tighter, staying in, that's the suggestion I would have also is don't deadlift with the belt all the time, deadlift without a belt, train your TVA to draw in and actually shrink your waist versus using a belt where you're pushing your waist out against the belt. Yeah, this is an interesting one because it keeps getting perpetuated. Even like I'll hear this even from Courtney sometimes about like, you know, doing something too often that will promote like a boxier kind of look that I've heard this is a common concern with a lot of females that I've trained even.
Starting point is 00:53:18 And it's again, to the point that you're not going to be building, it's really difficult to build like a substantial amount of size, you know, in your core, to begin with. Most of the ways that you're going to train your core are going to be to brace. And so everything's like working its way to protect. And it's essential for you to work in that area to have that function because if you're still working out, that's really what's protecting you and that's what's keeping everything moving forward in the right direction long-term. So to neglect that area, you're going to run into all kinds of problems down the road. And honestly, there are different styles of training that will produce different looks, right?
Starting point is 00:54:00 So I know you guys speak to this a lot more from the aesthetic side. In terms of being able to focus on bringing up and developing other muscles to then sort of balance the overall aesthetic to provide, you know, whatever that sort of V-taper, whatever you guys call it, kind of look, you know, they're going for. It's, it's just a problem because this, this is created a market for like corsets and for all these like really horrible. Yeah, ideas that people are still gravitating towards that because it's, you know, they're not considering the body as a whole. It's silly. You know, it's funny too. Considering the muscles that you develop and the muscles that women and men want to develop, the deadlift is an excellent phenomenal exercise
Starting point is 00:54:49 for women. Oftentimes female clients would say they want to develop their hamstrings and their glutes. They'd like well-developed lower backs. So if you want to stand up tall and bikini, not just have good glutes, but have that nice lower back where you see the indentation come in a little bit,
Starting point is 00:55:04 that's deadlifts. I've never trained come in a little bit. That's deadlifts. I've never trained any female ever who got really good at deadlifts who came back at me and said, I don't like the way my body looks. They've all fallen in love with the deadlift. So this is so silly to me. This is a myth perpetuated by extreme bodybuilding in which case I would not take much of their advice because it doesn't apply to most people. In fact, it's unhealthy advice.
Starting point is 00:55:25 For most people, man and women. It's even bad for bodybuilding. I used to scoff at all my peers that thought this way. I deadlifted all the way up into competition day. Yeah. And to your point about the back, I mean, you're at your spinae looks kind of like abs on your back.
Starting point is 00:55:40 So doing things like deadlifting gives you this great definition. It creates those canals and that little dip So even if it added again a quarter inch to your waist You'll have this illusion of it dipping in and being more aesthetically pleasing So don't eliminate that exercise and fear of adding a little bit to your waist That's a ridiculous notion that's been I think been perpetuated way too long Yeah, I think they're canals is the canals are canals. Let's go canals. What did I say? What did I say? canals canals canals canals canals canalsals or canals? Let's go with canals. What did I say? What did I say? Canals.
Starting point is 00:56:05 Canals. Canals. It's like pillow. Pillow. I got my list being going on over here today. Yeah, yeah. The damn thing. Definitely.
Starting point is 00:56:13 Put that in the library. Next question is from GD Penna. Is it truly necessary to take one rest day a week? For instance, how about alternating between full body strength days and cardio? No, it's not necessary to take one day off of it. It is necessary to modify your intensity and activity
Starting point is 00:56:33 to allow your body to rest and recover. However, under most circumstances, your body recovers better when it's active than if you're just sitting around laying in bed. Now, this was, you know, I believe this, the opposite to be true when I was younger, because I thought, oh, I have to like totally rest so my muscles can recover, so I would like have this crazy hard workout. And then I come home and sit on the couch purposely and be like, don't move, let the muscles build. Let them grow.
Starting point is 00:57:01 Yeah, it doesn't work. In fact, not being active can hamper recovery and can cause the opposite to happen. When you don't move, you're sending a signal to your body that says, we don't need muscle, we don't need strength, we don't need fitness. But you do need to modify your intensity. You can't train super hard all the time. Of course, this is depends on the individual and their fitness level and their recovery. But you can't push your body to its limits all the time, day and and day out because you will run into problems.
Starting point is 00:57:27 But you can totally be active every day. In fact, I feel my best and I recover my best when I'm active every single day. What does that look like for me? Typically three heavy workouts a week, two lighter workouts a week, and then two days a week where I'm doing things like walking and hiking and maybe mobility work and playing with my kids
Starting point is 00:57:46 at the park and that kind of stuff. But I don't have necessarily days where I'm like no activity, no exercise, I need to recover. And let's have really overdone it. And I feel like I'm on the verge of getting ill in which case I will not do anything. I love the idea of going to the gym seven days a week.
Starting point is 00:58:05 I just, not just because I think I felt my best during those times, too. And I'm not right now, by the way. And I'm also not nowhere near the best shape of my life right now. I think that for the mental reason, for creating a good habit, I like to teach clients this.
Starting point is 00:58:22 Like just, you make, you carve an hour out a day that is your day to work on yourself. That's just it. But to Salis Point, you modify the intensity. Doesn't working out or exercising for your health or for overall performance, whatever you're looking for, doesn't have to look like hammering the weights every single time to the gym. Like you said, three to four days of a good,
Starting point is 00:58:45 you know, intense workout is more than enough. And then doing cardio on the off days, or mobility, or taking a hike, or doing yoga, and working inward, like, I like the idea of teaching clients to have that five to seven days where they just, they know, hey, every day at this time for this hour, I carve that out for my time to go to my gym or work out in my garage wherever you do it at,
Starting point is 00:59:07 and you just modify it based off of what you've been doing. If you had a real heavy lifting day the day before, well, okay, well then today, do more mobility, stretching, or cardio type activity, and then go back to a heavy lifting day. I like that, and I've found, I've had the most success that way, and I've found my clients that I encourage to go to the gym that often have a lot of success.
Starting point is 00:59:27 Now, that's not to be said, that you can't only train, you know, you could train two days a week, and only train two days a week, and build a decent physique. If you have very good discipline with your eating and your calorie balance, you could build decent amount of muscle,
Starting point is 00:59:40 you can burn decent amount of fat, and shape a decent body, only going to the gym two times a week, but I think that it's more consistent and you get more bang for your buck just getting in the habit and the routine of always having that hour of exercise just changing and modifying it. Yeah, like so, kind of said in the beginning about working out really hard and then having to dedicate like a whole day of just rest and not movement, like ice to run by that, especially on the weekends,
Starting point is 01:00:06 which is then gonna leave me open to, you know, the weekends, you make decisions where you're gonna eat a bit more calories, you're not paying attention to all these things, you're resting, right? So this is where all the magic happens, where you're building muscle, but it took me to the point where I would get to Monday's workout and I would have zero motivation.
Starting point is 01:00:29 I did not wanna move and I had to overcome every week. I had to overcome this, this sort of block that I put in front of me in terms of being able to now generate that type of momentum to produce a better workout again and then repeat the cycle over again. It wasn't until I realized, I mean, I just got to keep moving and do lighter amounts. And even if that means scaling my workout back a bit of intensity wise, and then moving again the second day and not doing quite what I did the first day, my body just felt better.
Starting point is 01:01:03 I was more energized. I felt more recovery. And it's just a way better strategy than to really hammering the body and then resting completely. Totally. You know, four moderate intensity workouts is better than two super high intensity workouts
Starting point is 01:01:22 on a long-term basis. That's just true, right? Daily activity is best, but you got to moderate the intensity so that your body can handle it. Next question is from Cat Il Est. My nephew is seven and is showing interest in weightlifting. Where is a good place to start? What exercises or routines would you recommend? Gymnastics.
Starting point is 01:01:46 Yeah. That's right. Seven years old, what you're looking to develop is coordination, body awareness. Body awareness. And body awareness. And you, they can get it with weights. It's going to be really, really hard.
Starting point is 01:01:57 Here's a problem with weights and seven. I've trained kids that are real young. I've even trained kids as young as seven or eight years old, and it's literally 10 minutes. That's about as long as you can keep their attention. And it turns into games, which gymnastics is a lot of, you know, when you, when you see seven-year-olds engage in gymnastics, it's games, it's tumbling, it's fun, plus they're maneuvering their own bodies, and they're getting more body awareness. Wates will help do that as well, but it doesn't do it nearly as well as gymnastics will, especially not for a seven-year-old.
Starting point is 01:02:30 And trying to get a seven-year-old to handle a weight above their head, it's not going to work. It's hard to find dumbbells small enough. It just doesn't work as well. Typically with weights, I start around 12 or 13, but before that, it's like, you know, it's body weight stuff. You know, lunges and squats and pushups and tumbling and handstands and planks and climbing. Climbing is great.
Starting point is 01:02:53 Games were there. They don't even balance. Oh my God, I did this with my daughter. So she's 10 and I go out in the garage and I'm gonna train my son who's 15. So I can train him straight up. We're gonna do exercises. Sometimes with her, I gotta trick her a little bit.
Starting point is 01:03:06 So what I did with her is I had her come out and she's like, I don't wanna work out. I'm like, no problem. You don't need to work out. Just hang out with us. And then I got the physio ball down and I said, hey, I bet you can't sit on this imbalance without your feet touching the floor.
Starting point is 01:03:18 She's like, yeah, I can. I said, I bet you can. If you do it for 30 seconds, I'll give you 20 bucks. So for literally 45 minutes, she sat on the physio ball and tried to balance. About 45 minutes later, she stops and she goes, my core is really sore. She goes, did you trick me into working out my core? No, you're just playing. You know, gymnastics does a really, really good job of doing this for young kids.
Starting point is 01:03:39 I definitely, that's 100%. And that's why I enrolled my kids in like a park horror and gymnastics and it's just so good for them to learn how their body moves, how to adjust, how to react when you know they're they're opposing all these different forces from different angles. I think that's just like essential to build off of that body awareness because then they're in their body and you can really teach them now how to utilize and shuttle the right amount of force in certain directions. So they're efficient in what they're doing with their body.
Starting point is 01:04:15 And one thing that I do apply with my kids that we talk about all the time on the show is to provide opportunities for them when they see something that they just see like a pull-up bar or they see hanging rings like in my house and they just go and do a pull-up that's just maybe it's one maybe it's three but it's always there and every time they walk past it they do it and it's been really fascinating to watch my my oldest now can do like 10 pull-ups in a row he can even barely do one yeah and it's it's those concepts. We talk about it. It works. And it works with young kids like that.
Starting point is 01:04:49 It doesn't have to be complicated. You don't have to teach them all the mechanics of, you know, the perfect squat just yet, especially at seven. You know, you can model that for them. So they start to watch, dad or mom do these exercises. But honestly, it's just, it's providing the environment and the structure for them to express their body the way it needs to, and they learn for themselves, which then promotes, you know, like excitement and energy towards building on that. So I hated training kids,
Starting point is 01:05:18 so I'll tell you what not to do. You know, so the thing's not to do, the mistakes that I made early on trying to train, you know, young kids. So even though I say, with tongue the mistakes that I made early on trying to train young kids. So even though I say with tongue-in cheek that I hated training kids, I trained a lot of kids, I didn't enjoy it a lot at the beginning because I think I over-complicated the process. I was trying to get these kids to focus for like to South's point for 60 minutes of a workout, you know what I'm saying? Or I was, or to Justin's point,
Starting point is 01:05:46 I was really trying to get them to do a squat perfect or a bicep curl perfect and really get them to understand the form and hold their body there. And I would get frustrated because they would get impatient with it, they wouldn't like doing it and it just felt like I was wasting their time in my time. And I think when I kind of let go of all of that and stopped looking
Starting point is 01:06:05 at the way I would train a beginner client, and training kids is different. And just if I could get them to do stuff that I would know would promote good body awareness, good strength, good balance. So I started doing different things. In fact, I was just playing with my niece who's eight years old. And I was with my niece was eight year old niece and then I have a nephew who's 13. And she has the ability to sit down in a squat really well. And so we were all sitting in my squat and scroll position. And I was with her and I was like,
Starting point is 01:06:38 can you get down here with me? And she's like, okay, so she can do it. And I'm like, okay, can you kick your leg out from down here? And so then I would have her and she'd like fall over a couple of times and like you can, and she'd almost be able to, so she can do it. And I'm like, okay, can you kick your leg out from down here? And so then I would have her and she'd like fall over a couple of times and like, and she'd almost be able to, and she kept practicing it, then she could get it. And I got her to be able to do that.
Starting point is 01:06:50 It's okay, can you now take one leg while you're balancing and then bring it back in, then now switch to the other leg. And then we messed around with that. That took like 10, 15 minutes for her to get that down. Then she got that down and said, okay, now can you kick the leg out, balance, and stand up from that position? And then it took us another 10 to 15 minutes for her to get that.
Starting point is 01:07:09 Before you know that, her and I are fooling around for 30 minutes trying to do an exercise. Meanwhile, working on her stability, working on her strength, it's overall going to make her better at squatting, and she's having fun. We're playing with it, we're enjoying it. When I started thinking more like that, and I, Sal, you've alluded to one that I've done similar, right? And use pencils, but I think you've used a pencil one where you throw a bunch of pencils on the ground and you try and see, you know, how many can they pick up without tipping over or falling over? Can they get all 25 or 30 pencils on the ground?
Starting point is 01:07:40 All balancing on one leg. Why balancing on one leg? And then you make them switch to the other side, which you'll see. there'll be a discrepancy. Most kids right away will have one side, they have good stability on the other side, they won't so much. And so playing games like that, or having them jump to a single leg balance, right? Jump from one spot and then try and balance on one leg. So doing exercises and movements like that body weight push ups and just in a little two pull ups, you know, even just hangs.
Starting point is 01:08:06 You know, how long can you hang for? Grabbing rings or grabbing a bar and you know, I bet you can't hold this for 30 seconds, you know, if you can, I'll give you this or I'll challenge you to that. And so I think when I started to piece that together that I'm never gonna get this kid to do three sets of 15 bicep curls and then five sets of squats
Starting point is 01:08:25 You know like I let go of all that shit and just said hey if I could just get this kid to work on their balance and stability a little bit And they're and their proprioception their body awareness That's a great foundation and you you said it perfect I think sell said this that you know gymnastics that's I'm I for sure The I think two years old is when I can first enroll Max in that, and 100% I will put him in gymnastics just because I think just for that reason. It's not that I hope that it becomes some major gymnast one day. I understand that that's probably one of the best things that you could take a kid through
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