Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1423: The Benefit of Practicing Vs. Performing Exercises, How to Introduce Strength Training to Older Family Members, When to Turn to Supplements & Medication When Diet, Sleep & Exercise Seem Insufficient & More

Episode Date: November 13, 2020

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about the the difference between practicing a squat vs. performing a squat, how to introduce a fragile 65 year old to str...ength training, where to draw the line between deciding to improve health naturally through diet, exercise, and sleep or using more unnatural methods like supplements and medication, and whether it is ever a good idea to listen to your appetite when it comes to nutrition. How the Caldera Labs face serum is making Adam look 5 years younger. (5:24) Mind Pump Techniques: All about deadlifts. (9:20) Sal’s long night explained. (15:01) Funny Stories with Justin. (19:00) The media versus reality: 2020 Election. (21:56) Sleep deprivation effects, men versus women. (29:39) Why the Organifi green juice trumps the competition. (32:11) Growing pains with Maximus. (34:00) Studies with Sal. (37:50) #Quah question #1 – What's the difference between practicing a squat vs. performing a squat? How does that contribute to overall better physique, mobility, and longevity? (41:50) #Quah question #2 – I have a 65-year-old dad who has never strength trained in his life and is fragile. How would you start introducing him to strength training? (48:19) #Quah question #3 - Where do you draw the line between deciding to improve your health naturally through diet, exercise, and sleep or using more unnatural methods like supplements and medication? How do you strike a balance between these two methods? (53:38) #Quah question #4 - Is it ever a good idea to listen to your appetite when it comes to nutrition? I feel like as long as we eat healthily and don’t completely overdo it, our appetite should be a good indicator of how much food our body really needs. (58:57) Related Links/Products Mentioned November Promotion: MAPS Ultimate At-Home Workout Bundle for Only $99.99 Visit Caldera Labs for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code “mindpump” at checkout for the discount** MAPS Split Fact check: Political news website never called Pennsylvania for Joe Biden Politics and Unhappiness – Art of Happiness Podcast The Impact of Sleep Deprivation on Men vs. Women Visit Organifi for the exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! **Code “mindpump” at checkout** Positive outlook predicts less memory decline Stop Working Out And Start Practicing - Mind Pump Media MAPS Prime Webinar MAPS Prime Pro Webinar Mind Pump #1385: How To Start Your Fitness & Fat Loss Journey MAPS Starter | MAPS Fitness Products - Mind Pump Media Visit NED for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Visit Joovv for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Visit Felix Gray for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Why We Engage in Unhealthy Habits – Mind Pump Blog How to Stay on Track With Your Diet During Quarantine – Mind Pump Blog The Ultimate Goal to Intuitive Eating – Mind Pump Blog Intuitive Nutrition Guide | MAPS Fitness Products Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Arthur Brooks (@arthurcbrooks)  Instagram

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Starting point is 00:00:00 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Saldas Defano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. You are listening to Mind Pump the World's top ranked most downloaded fitness health and entertainment podcast. We're number one. Alright, so in this episode, we answer fitness and health questions that are asked by our audience. Listeners just like you, but we open the episode with this introductory portions.
Starting point is 00:00:30 So we talk about current events, we tell funny stories, we talk about our sponsors. Today's intro was 37 minutes long, after that we get into the fitness questions. So let me give you a whole rundown of today's episode. We open up by talking about Adam's face. Oh yeah, looking very nice and charitable. Youthful and pretty.
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Starting point is 00:01:14 Go check them out, calderalab.com, C-A-L-D-E-R-A-L-A-B, dot com, forward slash mind pump. Use the code mind pump for 20% off. Then I talk about doing deadlifts at the end of my back workout. Oh my God, it's crazy. No for reals. Normally you do deadlifts at the beginning,
Starting point is 00:01:30 do them at the end. It's another way to work out, find out in that part of the episode why. Then we talk about the late night feedings. Last night I got not that much sleep. My wife got even less because my baby son, Aralius is a party animal at night little shit. Oh yeah. That's right. Then I talk about how breast milk probably has drugs
Starting point is 00:01:50 in it because as soon as he drinks it he's out like a light. Justin talks about his dad said a bad word. Oh my gosh. That's a naughty word. Then we talk about how real clear politics just took Pennsylvania away from Biden. That's right, you thought he won, but maybe he has it. Oh, wait, there's more. We haven't had a civil war yet, let's keep going. Yeah, let's keep going gasoline right. Then we talk about the sleep deprivation effects
Starting point is 00:02:14 on men versus women. Looks like women win on that one, everybody. Then we talk about why Organifies Green Juice kicks the crap out of all the other green juices out there. If you like drinking green juice that tastes like grass, go somewhere else. But if you want to drink green juice that tastes good and it has 600 milligrams of ashwagandha in every serving, then you got to go with Organify. Here's where you go, get the discount.
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Starting point is 00:03:00 There's personal wants to know, what's the difference between practicing a squat and performing a squat? Believe it or not, there is a difference. The next question, this person wants to know what's the difference between practicing a squat and performing a squat Believe or not there is a difference the next question This person wants to know how you would start working out if you're old and fragile There's 65-year-old dad wants to start working out. How should they start strength training? Next question this person says where do you draw the line between Doing all the natural stuff to improve your health and throwing in things like supplements and medications. And then the final question, this person says, look, is it a good idea just to listen to
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Starting point is 00:05:22 Go get it. I need your help, Sal, and this. So I need your nerdy brain. So I am convinced, okay, white nerdy. And I'm probably biased, but I feel like the Caldera face serum is making me look at least five years younger. Yeah. And I'm getting this, dude.
Starting point is 00:05:40 I swear, I swear on my life. To the point where Katrina is trying it now, because people have made it. Because she saw your face looking good? Not only looking that way, but other people saying stuff in front of her. So I feel convinced, but now, is that because I've got people that are saying that
Starting point is 00:05:57 because maybe I'm going bald and they feel sorry for me, and so they want me to feel better about myself. That's true, that probably takes me from the positive side. I'm a dad now, and so they also want to be kind to me now. That's probably 50% of it. Right. Or because maybe we're on this big podcast.
Starting point is 00:06:12 And so they want to be connected to me. So they want to be closer to me. Like, me, am I being lied to? I'm a lot of factor. Am I being lied to right now? Or do I look younger from it? Is it really notice Crow's feet before? What do they call it?
Starting point is 00:06:24 All those little lines and things? Rinkle, they call wrinkles. What a name in them weird things. I'm just saying, I'm spitting out, you know, what I read in these gossip. I want to see Justin use it on his, as a little shank. Dude, it's gotten worse for me
Starting point is 00:06:37 because it's like I've spent time so in trucking and I was just in the desert. Now my skin is just like a fucking, like a lizard. Like a hot mask. Yeah, I'm like shit, I'm gonna have like that exoskeleton just of myself in the corner over there. You know what he's sat in your chair, right?
Starting point is 00:06:53 Like what is it? Who's been eating baby powder? I'm just a plume or a desk. I know, I can't believe I have that. You do, you do, you know what? I noticed it on you for sure. I don't feel like it is because I feel like I would have sold Justin by now.
Starting point is 00:07:04 I think you're... Justin doesn't give feel like I would have sold Justin by now. I think he was, Justin doesn't give a shit. Yeah, that's the problem. He does not, he's the most confident person there is. Period, end of story. To my fault. He doesn't care, which is also why people tell me things and give me signs and I'm just saying,
Starting point is 00:07:19 I don't listen. Yeah, he's not surprised my problem. And, but that's also, overpowers everything else. This confidence is attractive. Yeah, I mean, you and I have talked about this a lot of the leads when Justin wasn't around. When it's a lazy, so attractive. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:31 But is it, can we bottle this? We have meetings about it. No, what it is is, so Caldera, the ingredients, there's a lot of plant extracts that are anti-inflammatory. So they bring swelling down in the skin, simultaneously increase, what's it called, visible, not moistness, but makes your skin look more plump.
Starting point is 00:07:55 I love how you're saying this with little pinchers. I don't know why I'm doing that on my face. If you could, if you could, yeah. Yeah, if you could, milking something. Well, you brought out the inflammation, I thought maybe my fat face is something to do with that's inflamed all the time And now it's less inflamed could it could be
Starting point is 00:08:09 Yes, I do Cheeks very round Very round. It's just it's just a size your face Supposedly gonna benefit me when I'm 90 I'm looking I'm excited about that. Bro, look at me I got a real beard otherwise you can see my whole job Yeah, you look God for sure when you're when you when you're, when you hit like 65, you're going to look almost bad. You got a full like gnome beard. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:29 I'm going to go to all point it. Well, like several bags and like, oh, look at that. Hey, take off your Halloween costume. Do look like a skeleton. I don't know. There's some youthfulness there, though. I'll agree with that on some level. Yeah. No, it works. I notice, I notice it does a good job for you. So now Katrina wants to use it. Yeah. That's always a sign. When your wife wants to use your skin care products, that means it works. Yeah, that is.
Starting point is 00:08:52 Right? Shout out to something there, right? Yeah, right. Because if you like going, like, like, you're going to just the shower, I'm sure he has like dish soap. This, I remember a shampoo. No, I have a really bad, I can't,
Starting point is 00:09:03 my squash soap. I'm good. He's a don in there. Watch his body. It's like, I have a red hat. I kept my squash saw. I'm good. He's a don in there. Wash his body. It used to be that. He's like, pull them all off. It's nice through the skin. That was a case study for like everything.
Starting point is 00:09:14 You know, they just throw something else at him. Clean the dishes, your car, your hair, and your skin. Yeah. All of one, what I do is. Gasoline. Anyway. Dude, I had a decent workout. All things considered this morning and I did something
Starting point is 00:09:27 You know the way we write programs sometimes I think to myself brilliant. Yeah, so We're just complementing the shit out of ourselves today Ten minutes in already just talking about how I handsome. I have a brilliant you are though So there's so many paths in my face. There's something that we did in maps split where we in one of the phases, where we start workouts for a body part out with an isolation exercise and then move to a compound lift. And I don't do this often enough.
Starting point is 00:09:56 There's definitely some value to it. So today I want to have a little bit of fun in my back workout. And so what I did was I, 99% of time, I started back workout out with deadlift. If I'm in a deadlift, I do it at the beginning. Why? It's a heavy compound lift. Mm-hmm. You need lots of strength, lots of stability. And it just makes a lot of sense to do that. But every once in a while, try deadlifting at the end after you've done your rows and your pull downs or pull ups and you've got a crazy back pump.
Starting point is 00:10:27 Dude, that's mean. Yeah, so what I did is I went light, so just to give people an example what that means, right? Cause it's individual. If I did lift at the beginning of the workout, I'm going at least four, 50, 500 pounds. At the end of the workout, 300 pounds, a way lighter.
Starting point is 00:10:43 But what I did is when I came up to the top, I squeezed my lats almost like I'm doing a straight arm pulldown, came back down. I had probably one of the best back pumps I've had in a long time. You ever done that? It's a more of a feel approach. It's like I'm doing a body builder deadlift. Right, does that make sense?
Starting point is 00:10:59 Do you remember, do you guys remember the cue that was the biggest game changer for you for deadlifting? Do like what like really helped you get better at your deadlift? Yeah Like what cue was it like I read an article that said Rather than pulling the bar off the floor imagine you're pushing your feet through the floor Yeah, that was a big one for me and also like just bending bending the bar out so I could engage in my lats Bending the bar was a big one for me. Was it? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:26 Bending the bar was a big one. Because before that, I think I let my shoulders roll all the way forward. And I wasn't engaging my lats very much. And so I felt more in my low back. When I learned to really engage the lats, I felt like it came out of my low back. It went back into my glutes and hamstrings.
Starting point is 00:11:42 That was a big one for me, Joseph. I'm sitting back on your heels. Yeah, no, That was a big one for me, Joseph. It was not sitting back on your heels. Yeah, no, that was a big one for me too. I remember that, like, it's like when you grab the bar, you automatically engage your lats, your rhomboid, stay tight there, and then push your legs through. This is a big one. When I would teach this to clients,
Starting point is 00:11:58 every single time they would do this, they'd be like, oh my God, that felt, so rather than trying to lift the bar, which I think encourages like a low back lift, you're kind of squatting down and pushing your legs through your stand up and encourage, first off, it discourages that two-phase deadlift you see when people are doing it wrong,
Starting point is 00:12:16 where their hips come up first and then they stiff like a deadlift on the way up. Totally. So it kind of discourages that. It also discourages the back rounding because you're pushing through with your legs and it makes you want to stay more upright and you get, you know,
Starting point is 00:12:28 you get a nice, better, a little bar path as well. Yeah. But Adam, when I know, because you competed, so you trained bodybuilder-ish for a long time. Did you ever do that? Did it last at the end?
Starting point is 00:12:36 Have you tried that? I, you know, I have. I actually have done that more now than I did that competing days. And I don't know why. It was just something that, when I think when I was competing around that time, it's also around the same time
Starting point is 00:12:48 that I was trying to catch you on how heavy I was going. Yeah, I was a tough. Tough to fill the climb. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When they say she for the moon. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:02 Well, I was chasing increasing strength. So I really wanted to. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:12 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:20 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So really heavy and I want to be all technique. It doesn't matter, it doesn't need to be the front of my workout, I don't need. The only time I want it at the front of the workout is when I'm going after weight. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:13:29 You know, I want all the energy, I want to be fresh as I can. But if it's like, okay, a technique, one of the best things that I can do is put it at the middle or the end of my workout because I already know like, okay, I'm already gonna be a little gas burner or anything else. So this isn't gonna be a PR day, this is gonna be my, so it helps encourage me to stay,
Starting point is 00:13:45 does that make sense? Like to stay in that mindset because I know, I don't know if at the end anyway. Yeah, we're, even if I tell myself, like today's gonna be a light day, but if I start with dead lives, and I get going, yeah, I was like, let's put another plate on. Let's put another plate on.
Starting point is 00:13:58 And before you know it, I'll sudden a light technique day turns into a heavy day. Versus if I say, I'm gonna train with, train other exercises first and deadlifts gonna be in the middle of the end, I don't have a tendency to do that. I also like going lighter with deadlifts like that when then putting the rubber bands over the bar.
Starting point is 00:14:13 Well, you only really can go light with deadlifts, huh? It's not real, it's a battle. Boom. Yeah. Yeah. Light guy. I mean, I feel like it's, sounds picking on me.
Starting point is 00:14:23 It's okay, yeah, that's right. I'm gonna pick on you on the day. You don't need to. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If I got me on dead mean, I feel like it's, sounds picking on me. It's okay, yeah, I'm gonna pick on you. You don't need to. Yeah, I'm gonna pick on you. I got me on the left foot. Nothing else. So that's a good one to shine a light on. With the three-lift total?
Starting point is 00:14:33 Yeah, exactly. But no, do you put, do you ever do them with speed with the bands? I do with speed with the bands too, but I also like to just pull and then you get the added resistance that's like gradual. I just like that are chains, you know, as I don't know, there's just something like a novel about it and it's just fun to do. Yeah, I know. I enjoy it. I sometimes attach the bands away from me so that it encouraged me to pull back. Yeah. Does that make sense?
Starting point is 00:14:57 So, yeah, so you were gonna technique a bit more to you. Totally. I'm trying to improve that. Dude, I had a long night last night. You said to Adam, you said you weren't sleeping. Did you sleep good, Justin? I slept like a baby, dude. I had a long night, dude. So the baby, so you're not like a having baby. Well, so what it is is, so you know, when your baby's born, they weigh them, right?
Starting point is 00:15:16 And then they weigh them again later to see how much, because babies lose weight in the first, you know, what, four days or three days of life. And based upon how much weight they lose, and they'll tell you, make sure you increase your feedings or or do whatever. Now, a couple of things to consider when Jessica was on the epidural, they were pumping her full of saline or whatever, the IV. So she was kind of swelling up and holding water. And the midwife said that it'll happen to the baby too.
Starting point is 00:15:45 The baby will actually hold the little water too. So his weight at birth might have been a little heavy due to that. Nonetheless, a few days later they weigh the baby, he's lost weight. So the doctor's like, okay, feed the baby every two to three hours, wake them up if you have to, make sure he feeds 15 minutes on each boob. You're doing this whole thing. So now as a parent, you're a little bit concerned and worried, or whatever.
Starting point is 00:16:09 So now Jessica's stressed and she needs to feed him every two or three hours. But here's the problem. He'll get on the boob and five or 10 minutes in, out, asleep. Totally, he's out. And then to wake him up, we have to take his clothes off. I have to take off his diaper. He hates to be naked so then he gets like he starts to wake up and get pissed off
Starting point is 00:16:28 But it's this game every Five or ten minutes and so last night she was struggling because he just wants it But I forgot like did you did you guys have to do any of this with all? Yeah, of course max was a premium so he was underway to start, you know So that was a major concern so we actually After if I recall, I know for sure at night, because I did the nights always, but I'm pretty sure almost every feeding we also syringe afterwards. Yeah, we're doing that.
Starting point is 00:16:52 Because there's also the other side too, that she's not like fully let down or producing like her max amount of milk, either. So they're, I forget what it's called when that, that first bit that's lost from. Yeah, she's got a lot of that at first, and you need to make sure he's getting all of that and hopefully some milk. And so we would have to syringe feed afterwards, which as the dad, I actually really like this because the beginning, they're not bottle feeding at all, right?
Starting point is 00:17:15 So you don't want to confuse the baby with, but you're called nipple confusion? Yeah, so you don't want to enter, if you can, right? If you can avoid having the, having the newborn use a bottle, you do. And so, you know, and I was actually looking forward to that as a dad.
Starting point is 00:17:31 I can't wait till I can bottle feed him and hold him and rock him to sleep and realize that I wouldn't be doing that for several months. And so, but they did want us to syringe, feed him if his weight was, you know, not increasing. So I got to syringe feed him. Have you seen, it's like a beach body version of breastfeeding? Yeah, no confusion.
Starting point is 00:17:49 Oh, it's about the confusion. Yeah, I'm just saying. Have you seen the they make these I don't know if they're real. I saw it on the internet one for men. Oh, it's they're fake boobs. Yeah, I was thinking that too. It's their bottles and a guy puts them on. Yeah, that's a real thing.
Starting point is 00:18:04 Press feeds his kid. Like does that meet the fuckers or whatever? Where he puts on, what's that actor's name? But he puts on with those fake boobs and that, that's a different kind of nipple computer. Yeah, I don't know if I'm here. I'm really confused. I don't know if I'm on a good, that part.
Starting point is 00:18:20 Yeah, you're good. No, but yeah, so we were doing that all night or she was doing most of it all night. She wanted to let me sleep because I know today we had a, you know, kind of a big day or whatever. But you know, and here's the other thing. Breast milk is, I know that there's cannabinoids
Starting point is 00:18:36 in breast milk. I know they found, they know that you have your own endocannabinoids you produce, they're in milk. And they say this is one of the reasons why, like if you watch a baby breastfeed, though eat, eat, eat, shit themselves out. It's like they just party, like they're, and then oh, they're totally, totally out.
Starting point is 00:18:52 Thanksgiving every day. Yeah, so he's out and so it's, whatever, trying to wake him up. Yeah, that's pretty, that's pretty. Oh my God, that's pretty. I've been trying to kind of avoid politics and stuff, like we've been bringing up a little bit, but this is a really funny story that just happened recently.
Starting point is 00:19:05 So, you know, Facebook is like one of the greatest places for just little moments like this to kind of pop up with my family and whatnot. And I've been avoiding Facebook, haven't been contributing, not, you know, engaging at all. And I looked, I get a text actually from my dad and I was like on vacation with my family and I saw things like, okay, so I just gotta let you know I kinda did this, I feel guilty about it like when I just had had enough. Like, so like my brother and him have been at odds
Starting point is 00:19:36 in terms of like their political choices, their candidates, what not, you know, ones buying ones, Trump, you know, this, that. And so I'm sort of like, you know, playing moderator half the time when we're all hanging out. And my brother's been kind of hard on him about, you know, his backing of, of the president and this and that and the other. And so it's been really awkward. And so like, what am I cousin, like posts about, to buy it in and, and says something about it. And my dad contributes to it. I don't trust
Starting point is 00:20:03 the thing, you know, that snake says or whatever. And so like, and my brother gets on there and he's like, who do you mean Trump or this, that, we're like, and then, and then my dad, like, he's like, I don't know if, and so he decides to write, and he tags my brother, right? So he's got his name, it's like tagged in there, you know, brand in this, and he says, suck rocks. What?
Starting point is 00:20:24 And I'm like, dad, we gotta work on your insults. Yeah, suck rocks. You know, because he's like, like he's very good serve. He's very like, you know, he doesn't swear. He's like, but you could tell you to have enough. And that's the best he'd come up with. Right.
Starting point is 00:20:40 You know, and I just, I was dying that he wrote that publicly. You know, and I was just, oh that he like wrote that publicly, you know, and I was just oh my god Me and Courtney were going out. I would say this is that I've never seen of families divided as much as I have. Yes Right, not worth it everybody. It's totally I'm walking everyone in my family half a cliff like I'm pulling them all back together Like let's all like relax. Yeah. Yeah, I always just say everybody sucks, and that tends to hurt the warm, because I have family members on both sides too. Like everybody, look, the truth is, they all kind of suck, don't they?
Starting point is 00:21:11 Well, that's what I think is really, what's really funny is that we always see, like it turns into this whole character thing, right? Like whoever, in my opinion, whoever wins, is whoever did a better job of destroying the other guy's character, right? So that's whoever sucked the least. Yeah, and and and I go, you know, to get to get to the level of
Starting point is 00:21:29 the of even running for president. Can you imagine how many lies and people you manipulated and how many backdoor fucking deals you had to do to get there? Oh, yeah, I don't care how hostily. Yeah, so I don't care which side you're on. None of them are trustworthy. Like change my mind. Change my mind that that person didn't do some...
Starting point is 00:21:48 And what kind of person seeks out that kind of life to get that kind of power? Come on, really. Stop it. Did you guys see that real, clear politics rescinded Pennsylvania? No. Took it away from Biden? What?
Starting point is 00:22:02 Yeah, so this is my biggest fear. So here's my biggest fear. And I said in my story the other day, like somebody, because of course I have a bunch of people on both sides that are like are so curious about how I feel. And I'm like, listen, if Biden is our president now, I'm team Biden. I don't care, even if I, even if I wasn't a fan of his policies,
Starting point is 00:22:19 if he's the president, I'm a fucking fan. Right. I mean, I think this is America. Yeah, I think it's fucking crazy not to now here's what i'm worried about is if that's where we know we've been told it's announced on the on on all the news networks that he's the president right and and will be in there in january now even though i don't think that that uh... trump can win and i don't think that it's gonna go that way i don't believe that
Starting point is 00:22:44 but if it does i'm more worried about that than ever. Like I'm so worried about. Well, so here's the thing that this is a big one now. The first off, there's a few states that are actually getting closer Arizona as of the recording this podcast is getting so close that some news networks are saying, ooh, we shouldn't have called that.
Starting point is 00:23:03 That was all too soon. See, now I don't know what to trust because then I've also read things that say that even all the lawsuits that are happening that he's doing right now are worthless because the amount of fraud that is potential. I agree with that. It's such a small number that it won't sway one way. I agree with that, but here's the thing that people need to understand and this is... But why call it until they count everything? Well, so this is what the media does. Give it a try.
Starting point is 00:23:24 The media projects. The media projects the winner. They don't announce. People want answers. They don't announce the winner. The winner is not announced by the media. That's not how it works. So when is it officially announced? December, I think, is when it's officially announced
Starting point is 00:23:37 and then it's not really, really official until they're sworn in. Yes, sworn in. Yeah, but the media never does. They always project. They always say, this is the projected winner. And if it's contested, I mean, in 2000, Al Gore, the media projected him to win the presidency.
Starting point is 00:23:52 Bush won 45 days later through the Supreme Court because there was issues in Florida. And so it was a close call. This is a close, anyway, slice it. It's a pretty damn close election. And I don't think it's gonna swing back to Trump. I don't think that they're gonna prove voter fraud was so widespread.
Starting point is 00:24:10 But, but. Because they would have, you would have to win several of those states, right? Yeah, but a lot of them are close. I mean, there's a chance, it's a tiny chance, but there's a chance, but the media doesn't declare the winner. So it's not like the,
Starting point is 00:24:22 and this is the problem, people are so ignorant to the way our government works that they're going to, everybody celebrating, but that never, that didn't really meant that he was the president alas. It's not definitive. It's not definitive. And so then if they go back like it happened in 2000, now that country was different in the year 2000, people protested and were pissed off. A lot of Al Gore fans were protesting, but it's not going to be that way.
Starting point is 00:24:45 See, my thoughts is that it's not as close as we think it is. And them actually saying that it's Biden early is just another way to create more controversy on the other side. And that just makes for great news. It makes for great for Fox and CNN. It's like Pepsi and Coke with both winning here. It could be. That's the way I look at it.
Starting point is 00:25:03 They are in the business of keeping our attention. And if we all, if it was the election was over, we all agreed so and so was the winner. And we are all on the same page and we agree. Then what do you think happens to Fox and CNN? For the next two to three weeks, no one gives a fuck. Oh, they're rating, you know, Fox's ratings crashed. All right, it's because conservatives like jump ship on them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:25 I'll tell you what, dude, when Trump's out, which I think is what's gonna happen, media companies, he's gonna start media companies. It's gonna be funny. And he's been setting it up for four years, right? Yeah. The fake news and this and that. He's gonna start.
Starting point is 00:25:38 Real news, fake news. Yeah. Was that a completely clear. What's going on? The real news that were you. Isn't that exact, isn't that the same thing that was being this campaigned on though? And it first came out, I mean, that was like the same thing.
Starting point is 00:25:49 Fair and balanced. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what it was. Fair and balanced, but it was a sweet and low. So I, like, intentionally, so I mean, I, I have, this is the most I've cared about any of this stuff. I've never, ever paid attention, any of this shit until like now, right?
Starting point is 00:26:03 And so I, I really enjoy for the paid attention any of this shit until like now, right? So I really enjoy for the comedy of like for every one of the debates that I watched, I intentionally toggled back and forth between Fox and CNN. Oh, it's the greatest thing ever. It is so revealing. It's hilarious. And I think everybody should at least do that a few times
Starting point is 00:26:21 to like really help you like get better perspective on what's going on. Like it's they couldn't be so opposite of what they're telling and what do you're selling it. It's like they took all the story writers from Hollywood, you know, because they're out of the job and then they just like, okay, what story can we create for this thing that just happened?
Starting point is 00:26:37 Yeah, you should see that they did this poll. So there was a poll in 2016 where they asked the people who vote Democrat, do you trust the election process? And a majority of them said no, of course, because Trump won. They asked them again now, and now a majority of them trust the election process. And it's the flip with Republicans.
Starting point is 00:26:57 Yeah, isn't it? Oh, I hate that. Again, the media, that's why I think none of this is gonna get swayed or changed. I think Trump and Biden are smoking weed fucking at home together You know I'm saying I really do I think I think Trump genuinely dislikes everybody. I don't know I feel like he's just I don't think I know I you know my buddy who's the my my buddy who's a hard left is just like that's part of the that's all part of his His scheme this whole this whole the fake news and like a calling what was gonna happen beforehand
Starting point is 00:27:24 That was just that's all how he's been campaigning. That's all part of the part of the and you see it exactly on the other side too. Yeah, definitely. I think they're boys. Well, at the very end, at the very end, I mean, once he's out, he's still a billionaire businessman. Right. Who needs to be part-bet friends with, you know, bureaucrats. And that's it. So the one thing that my buddies, so I tell you guys we're on a thread that we're all like different, right? The one thing that we all agree on is that at the end
Starting point is 00:27:49 of all this, like, when it comes to politics, like, there's gonna, there's, and that's why I think there's such a close even divide because some, but there's gonna be a large group of people that greatly benefit from whoever this next man is in an office and there's gonna be a bunch of people who don't. And that's how most people vote is like looking at that going like, hey, when he's in office, this is good for me. When this other guy's in office, this is better for my friend.
Starting point is 00:28:14 And so that's what creates this crazy division. At the end of the day, they're trying to line their own pockets behind the closed doors. And they were, you know what I'm saying? And then they're all, I think, shaking hands and pushing it together. I just can't wait for things giving. So when it goes around, they'll be like, you know what I'm saying? And then they're all, I think shaking hands and pushing it together. I just can't wait for Thanksgiving. So when it goes around, they'll be like, I'm thankful for not sucking rocks. You know, you know, I make it real hot.
Starting point is 00:28:32 You know, I'm so cross. I didn't even think about Thanksgiving coming up in the next couple of weeks. I sure hope that we have more clarity on who won because that's gonna create shitty ass dinner talk. It's a great way to whittle away and kind of clean out who you're gonna buy gifts for and who's gonna get them for you.
Starting point is 00:28:48 Just talk politics at the dinner table. Save yourself a lot of money. Yeah, I didn't even think about that. I really hope that we're further along in the next week than we are right now. So I listened to a podcast with Arthur Brooks on people who talk politics and worry about, and they've done studies on this and they show that people who
Starting point is 00:29:07 talk a lot of politics generally no one likes them including people who agree with their politics. I love that. You're an annoying you're an annoying person. It's even if people agree with you people don't want to hang out with you because you talk politics all time. It's like he said in this podcast is like you're just an annoying person to be around. It's focused on us. It's sports for nerds, dude. It's just like, if you're a person who's not into sports and hearing a guy, two guys battle back and forth over the, if the 49ers of the Cowboys are better,
Starting point is 00:29:31 it is the most annoying thing. And I like sports. For a year, it's been forced on us, you know? It's like, get out of here, dude. Get out of here with it. Hey, I looked up some studies, some interesting studies on sleep deprivation. I just do funny transition, but because Jessica's up so much with the baby,
Starting point is 00:29:47 you know, generally speaking, women do better with sleep deprivation, which makes sense when you consider that they are, you know, illusionarily, I would be an advantage for sure. Feed babies and stuff like that. So, I mean, I saw it firsthand with Katrina. Because I couldn't do it.
Starting point is 00:30:00 Oh yeah, I couldn't do it. I mean, one night I'm like a fucking bear dude. One night of not getting good sleep, she was running a week's sleep. I feel like babies would not survive. If it was men, who are the ones staying up all night? At some point, but like, I'm not having it. Yeah, just leave it.
Starting point is 00:30:15 I mean, are you going through? I mean, obviously you had two kids before, so maybe you remember this, but maybe it's more obvious now, right? Cause you're going through this again. But I remember after that first few months of seeing Katrina, everything from, you know, the pregnancy to the birth to all the effort
Starting point is 00:30:33 into breastfeeding and everything and taking care of our son, those first few months. Man, I tell you, like, there's not enough love or conversation around single mothers. Oh, I don't know how. We have a friend who I just have such a different respect for all of them on another level now. I could imagine like, we have a friend who's got,
Starting point is 00:30:55 you know what, fucking target should have a parking spot for them. Single mom. Yeah, single mom parking. Yeah, fuck all those pregnancy ones. Just hell of pregnancy ones. That's your single mom should get like a fuck. I know, but they might feel bad parking there though. Yeah, fuck all those pregnancy ones. Just hell of pregnancy ones. Is that she's single mom should get like a fucking fight row.
Starting point is 00:31:05 They might feel bad parking there though. Yeah, I mean, like, everybody knows. I mean, I just think, I just, I just, it blows my mind on how hard it is to do a good job raising a child with a great partnership. Oh, it's hard. Oh, I mean, I'm doing it by yourself is just unbelievable. I'm looking at Jessica and I already respected her before, but now I'm just in awe.
Starting point is 00:31:29 You know, I mean, just in awe of the effort to love the sacrifice. It's a tremendous sacrifice. You literally are sacrificing your own mental health to care for this, you know, this little baby. But yeah, I don't know how single parents in general do it. It's I couldn't imagine juggling a job, a baby, you know, your own health, your own life. Like how, and you know, I get it, if you're wealthy, maybe you can hire help and stuff. But if you're most people or single parents are not wealthy,
Starting point is 00:32:01 holy Toledo. Yeah. Like that's just, suck rocks, holy Toledo. I was on that on that same, I know, I love it. I'm gonna use it for all kinds of things. Yeah. Have you guys tried other green juices out there?
Starting point is 00:32:13 There's like so many of them now. I was like in the market and one of my friends had introduced me to another one here on another podcast. And it like tastes like wheat grass. Yes, most of them are. Yeah. It was like the general consensus. That's why Organifies is such a, they sell so much.
Starting point is 00:32:30 Did you guys know that so Organify, it's become a huge company, mainly through word of mouth initially, and their green juices are top seller. Did you guys know they're only six years old? Yeah, you just hit their anniversary. Really? Dude, I didn't know that.
Starting point is 00:32:44 They're just a little older than we are. Yeah, yeah. I remember we were close because remember that just this last year, we were talking about and COVID changed all that. We were going to do a party together at the same time. Their growth has been crazy. Oh, crazy. Oh, and then they did list in their green juice how much ashwaganda is in the green juice
Starting point is 00:32:59 because it says proprietary blend. Would you say that's the most valuable or the most expensive part of green juice? Well, Ashwaganda is a very valuable herb. Very, it's the only herb that will consistently raise testosterone in men. It's got proven adaptogenic quality, so it helps regulate cortisol insulin. For me, it's the most consistent supplement
Starting point is 00:33:24 in terms of if I take something and I feel it, and I just feel better. Right now I'm taking a lot of it because my lack of sleep and stress are really, really high, and that's what it helps with. And there's 600 milligrams of it in the green juice. It's a good amount. That's a great dose.
Starting point is 00:33:39 That's a, it's not, it's PC dose. It blows my mind how good it tastes. You know that they did like 52 trials on it before they finally narrowed They're like nailed down the actual flavor and taste it. Oh really. Yeah, yeah, that's a lot Yeah, it makes sense. I mean they they mastered it like to where it's like it gets that nice aftertaste of that mint and it's like I don't know how they did it. Mm-hmm dude. I was telling Jessica your story about Max when he threatens Katrina Like I'm waiting for that episode to drop. We were dying. Katrina's not going to like that. I know that we were dying about it.
Starting point is 00:34:09 They're being so courty that yeah. So what's the strategy? Have you guys come up with a strategy to get him to stop? Well, you could just kind of let him do it. Like so last night he was yeah last night he, um, yeah, the last night was probably the longest we'd ever let him cry. Like we Katrina Katrina has this, like, I don't know what book she was reading, but there's like a 10 minute strategy.
Starting point is 00:34:28 I don't know if Jessica's on board with this or not. We haven't gotten there yet. Yeah, so, you know, how long will you let him cry for? So she has a 10 minute role. So, you know, let him cry up to 10 minutes. And it actually, for the most part, has worked really, really well. Like, I don't know how many times, countless times,
Starting point is 00:34:46 he falls asleep at about eight minutes or nine minutes. And many times, if he goes beyond 10, something's wrong with him. Either he's not feeling well or he's teething or he pooped his diaper or something like that. If he cries beyond 10, there's something else going on. So it's kind of like, per role. But now we're beyond these times now. And now it's like, okay, we're trying to get to a place where we,
Starting point is 00:35:07 we're training him to like, okay, it's time for bed, putting him down awake, and not having to like, put him to sleep, right? So we're in that phase. And then now we're also trying to get rid of this habit that he's created of threatening his mom with sticking his finger in his mouth. So last night, you know screaming crying for a good 45 minutes and then about minute 45 or so, he made himself throw up.
Starting point is 00:35:32 And Katrina's watching all this. She's laying in bed next to me. I can see the glow from the phone of her watching the whole thing and then I hear, he's just threw up. And I know inside of her, she wants to go in there so bad, but she didn't, she resisted and she knows that like, we're gonna have to go through this phase now.
Starting point is 00:35:48 You know, that's what I love about her and herself awareness. Like, there was a little bit of a struggle between her and I and disagreement on that when it first started happening, but quickly she realized like, oh shit, he did get me. You know, and so now she knows that she's got a standard ground as hard as it is to let them sit there and cry and then throw up in his bed and then leave them kind of in it. She's like, oh my god, you could tell it's painful for her to do it.
Starting point is 00:36:10 But it's the only way to break him of doing that. Otherwise, if she goes running in there and grabs him, just reinforce her. Right. So yeah, we're in the early phases of unwinding. Yeah, and there's something called a symptom eruption where and and this is what adults do, we'll do this, but kids, they do something that always works. When it doesn't work, they do more of it at first. So it's not like they get the hand, like, oh, it's not working.
Starting point is 00:36:37 Now I'm gonna do it more and more and more and more. Exactly. And then finally, they figure out this is not working anymore. So I would expect he's probably gonna try. Yeah, yeah, I plan, I'm planning for it to be a little rough for probably a couple of weeks, but I think that we could nip it in the butt pretty quick.
Starting point is 00:36:53 I don't think anybody wants to sleep around throw up, and I think at once you realize that he's not gonna get saved. He's uncomfortable. He saved from that, I think. Well, he picked one that was really good though. Yeah, I never really, because that takes you gotta clean after work. I mean, I've been around kids for a long time, I've never seen that or even heard of that. Well, he picked one that was really good though. Yeah, I never really. Because that takes you got to clean afterwards. I mean, I've been around kids for a long time,
Starting point is 00:37:07 and I've never seen that or even heard of that. It's your son, dude. He's pretty smart from my level, dude. His negotiating skills are very good. Yeah, that's the opportunity with that. Yeah, no. It was like scream louder. It's like, oh, wait, but if I throw up, they got a clean stuff.
Starting point is 00:37:23 Yeah, and that was really her argument to me was, like she kind of put it back on me when I was like, don't go, don't do this. She's like, well, then you clean it up in the morning and I'm like, oh, fuck, can you got me there? And I'm still like, I don't want to do that. You know what I'm saying? So, okay, so I kind of like gave in,
Starting point is 00:37:36 like go get him or what about that. But then now she's like, okay, this is getting ridiculous. It's a big, great story. You can tell his girlfriend, you know what she brings the first one home. Hey, you know what he used to do? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna get himself thrown up. Yeah, just so you can get his way. Crazy brings the first one home. You know what he used to do? Yeah, make it self-grow up. Just so you can get his way.
Starting point is 00:37:47 Crazy, never ever. Little turkey. Yeah, anyway. Science daily, it's a great site. People always ask me where to go to read new studies. Science daily, there's all kinds of, the post like new studies. Anyway, there was a new one on there.
Starting point is 00:38:00 It was pretty interesting. They've connected a positive outlook on life with less memory loss in older adults. So people who tend to be more positive with the way they see things, positive way of life, also later on suffers from less dementia memory loss. So it's not just that they're enjoying their life more, but it's also there may be some positive health effects,
Starting point is 00:38:24 actual measurable health effects for having a good- That's interesting because, you know, if you, anybody that's had any sort of rough upbringing or trauma in their life, you tend to block it out. And you're probably promoting those things, right? So if you intentionally are blocking out members, it's probably not ideal for you to be able to help you with remembering things.
Starting point is 00:38:46 So I imagine somebody who's been through a bunch of shit or that is negative about a time in their life and have intentionally blocked out, I'm sure that's probably, that's probably not good for me. There's a lot of my childhood that is like a black blur for me. Really?
Starting point is 00:39:01 Oh yeah, what do you think back and you don't remember? Yeah, no, I have very, you know, there's, and it's taking me a long time. So, too, to realize that I've done this, right? So, no, there's no doubt in my mind that even as rough as my childhood might have been, there, it wasn't all bad. You know, we had good days and there was happiness in our life. But as a kid, when, when you have these really scary moments or bad times in there, they become like the highlight of your memory. They stick out.
Starting point is 00:39:28 Yeah, they stick out. And so I know for young adulthood, I had this bias of like, oh, it was all bad and all negative. And it's like, no, it isn't that way. That just stands out to me. And so then the next phase of that too is like to suppress it, you know, to suppress it and not think about it.
Starting point is 00:39:43 Like, because you tend to relive it every time you think about it. Yeah, right. And then what ends up happening from that is you actually start to it, you know, to suppress it, not think about it like that. Because you tend to relive it every time you do that. Yeah, right. So then you kind of, and then what ends up happening from that is you actually start to forget, you know, and so there's a lot of this like, I have a lot of blotchy memories. I can remember like certain great, certain moments that had happened, but they, as far as like the day
Starting point is 00:39:58 that happened in that, I've lost a lot of that stuff. So that's interesting. Yeah, I'll tell stories, I think my, my, my mom and my dad will sometimes forget to do for my for my childhood because I'll remind them, you know, like my that's not really. Oh, that's great. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. So like my when my son was real little, my dad was holding him and he might not my son was probably like four. And he hit my dad in the face and my dad laughs or whatever. I'm like, wow, that's weird.
Starting point is 00:40:23 Yeah. Because that would have never happened if I did that to you. Do you guys remember the time you threw the extension cord? What do you mean, it's the only time I never did that? Hey, mom, remember when you threw the shoe at me and the groceries? I never took my shoe off at the grocery store. Yeah, I reminded my dad when we used to drive to go camping and stuff like my brother and I,
Starting point is 00:40:40 in the back of the pickup right next to the gasoline. And then you'd be huffing gasoline fumes for miles. You know, and I would just have headaches. And he's like, wow, I don't remember that. Yeah, that's it. Oh, that's gonna be it. I used to sit in the middle of my dad's work, but when we go to work and he made me a rope, seep out.
Starting point is 00:40:57 Yeah. Because I was like, I'm like a milk crate, right? Yeah, I'm so gangster back there. A bungee cord, a bungee cord and a milk cart. Oh, yeah, I would put one side was like bolt into the side, the other side we'd tie a knot to another nail. That was the other side. Yeah, it works.
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Starting point is 00:41:54 versus performing a squat? And how does that contribute to overall better physique, better mobility, and longevity? Okay, so I'm assuming that what he means is practicing the squat versus performing in the sense that you're doing the squat to feel it in your legs, get a good workout, burn your legs out. So one of them, you're practicing the technique
Starting point is 00:42:17 in the form, like it's a skill. The other one, you're aiming for a really hard leg workout. It's mostly mindset. What's the difference? Yeah, I would say like a maxing out is he referring to that. Or like you're going for a really hard leg workout. It's mostly mindset. What's the difference? Yeah, I would say like a maxing out is a free workout. Or like you're going for a workout versus I'm just gonna make sure I do this well and practice the skill. Both of them have their value.
Starting point is 00:42:34 The one that has the most value long term is practicing the skill of squatting, of just going to the gym, getting into the bar, and you're not necessarily aiming for any type of intensity or burn or feel, but rather, how can I keep making this a better and better and better squat? I feel like that's got such incredible long-term benefits and potential. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:56 And it, too, it helps to kind of reinforce like your body's comfortable in that movement. It's very versed in that movement. So any sort of inconsistency or something that's going to throw you in a different direction, like you know how to react and respond appropriately, before you then really add more of the intensity, more of the load to it. So it's very important to do more of the practicing portion of it and then intermittently throw in the really intense times. Well, when I think of performing this squad, I think of somebody who is following a program that is either they've structured it or a program structured progressive overload and
Starting point is 00:43:34 last week they squatted X amount of weight. And so this week they're going to add five pounds to the bar or they did X amount of reps last week. And so this week they're going to do this many more reps this week And so they're progressively overloading over time in their program to me. That's performing a squat practicing a squat That those are all arbitrary number none of that matters. Doesn't matter how many reps you do It doesn't matter to wait the load on it You're going in there with the idea that I just want to get great at the movement
Starting point is 00:44:01 And so what that means most of the time is Is reducing the load dramatically? It's not most of the time is reducing the load dramatically. It's not kind of, like, because sometimes people think like, you know, when you go to practice a squat, like, okay, you don't, obviously you don't want to be doing a max load while you're trying to practice.
Starting point is 00:44:13 So you back off the weight a little bit, but you're still really pushing. No, like, when I practice a squat, I'm like 50% or less of the weight. It's a lot less. I mean, it's such a lightweight that I could pause at portions of the squad. I can hold at the bottom for a long time
Starting point is 00:44:29 and think about the position of my feet, and my knees, and my chest, and my shoulders. It's such a lightweight that I can break up the squad. I can break, while I'm doing it, right? I'm getting ready to do 10 reps, but I can make 10 reps, take me five minutes because I'm stopping at certain portions. There's more flexibility there.
Starting point is 00:44:47 Yeah, in the practice mode versus, yeah, coming in with a very rigid, I'm gonna get through these amount of reps in this many sets and I'm gonna do it at this weight and it's like very much like, this is what I have to do today. Yeah, practicing it also allows you, or gives you the ability to unlock the total value
Starting point is 00:45:07 and power of the squat or other exercises for that matter. So for example, let's imagine you've never thrown a baseball before. So you have no experience throwing a baseball, and I hand you a baseball, and I say just throw it as hard as you can, right? You would be able to throw it farther by throwing it as hard as you can. Initially, then if you practice technique and skill at first, but not for long. If you continue to practice skill and technique over time, then you'll be able to far surpass your hardest throw before because you've unlocked the maximum potential of the technique of the throw.
Starting point is 00:45:40 The same thing is true for a squat, practicing the squat, especially when you're new to lifting or even intermediate, practicing it allows you to unlock all of its total value for when you do push it. Because if you push it too early and you don't have good technique and skill, you're only going to go so far. Well, another example where I think squatting for performance versus practice looks like this. So if I'm performing and I'm following a routine, it's like, okay, today I have four sets of squats at 80% intensity with rest periods of 90 seconds between.
Starting point is 00:46:12 I've already done all my priming or warming up and I get right into the sets and I'm watching my time between the sets and I'm going through and I'm adding weight, whatever and I'm done. That's what performing looks like. Practice may look like this sometimes for me. I get into a set and I'm not having weight, whatever, and I'm done. That's what performing looks like. Practice may look like this sometimes for me. I get into a set and I do one set
Starting point is 00:46:27 and then I notice that my shoulders aren't being peeled back very well. So then I go over and I do zone one and I'm priming for another five or 10 minutes and then I go back to the set and then I do the squat again and I evaluate, was I able to keep my shoulders back? Oh, I notice now that my feet are pronating a little bit.
Starting point is 00:46:44 So then I go in the next set, between the next set I'm getting down keep my shoulders back. Oh, I notice now that my feet are pronating a little bit. So then I go in the next set, between the next set I'm getting down and doing combat stretch and maybe some foot exercises in between and then I get back and do a squat again. So when I'm practicing a set of squats may take a half hour, 45 minutes. I'm going in there with the intention to improve the movement of the squat.
Starting point is 00:47:02 And so I will break it down like that. I'll do a set and I'm watching myself in the mirror or maybe even videoing sometimes, there's great apps for this too, by the way, to kind of like break down to show if you have a excessive forward lean or looking at my feet to see if there's any breakdown there, see if there's any breakdown in my knees collapsing.
Starting point is 00:47:19 And I'm assessing it and then I'm going back and I'm doing priming movements to improve it. And then I'm doing it again and then paying attention. So that, to me, is another example of what practice versus performance. The difference between me as an early trainer versus a later trainer training clients. I initially, when I had to get a client,
Starting point is 00:47:38 it was all about the sweat, the hardness of the workout, the burn. Later on, it was about practice. People would show up and we'd practice movements, practice movements and get better at them, get better at them. of the workout, the burn, later on it was about practice. People would show up and we'd practice movements, practice movements and get better at them, get better at them. The results they got were far better with the second option. They still moved, they still got good workout, they still built some muscle, but their form
Starting point is 00:47:55 continued to get better, and then over time we were able to push the workouts, minimize risk of injury, and just maximize the results that they got out of those exercises. So in my opinion, practicing, especially if you're new to intermediate, should be where you spend a lot of your time. Later on, when your form is great and you can get in the bar and do a great squat, no problem, then it's okay to push performance more than anything. Next question is from Jeff Carrillo, 23. I have a 65-year-old dad who's who's never strength trained in his life and is fragile. How would you start introducing him to strength training?
Starting point is 00:48:30 You know, the beauty of strength training or resistance training, the main reason why, aside from the rate, it changes the body and how it gets the body to adapt, what makes it so unique is it's the most modifiable individualized form of exercise that exists on the planet. Okay, so when you go to physical therapy
Starting point is 00:48:50 with any injury at all, I mean, you could go there after you could paralyze, you could have a shoulder that doesn't work anymore, you could have extremely limited mobility, the way that they improve your mobility, the strength in your body, is with different forms of resistance training. Okay, resistance training, very individualizable.
Starting point is 00:49:08 You take someone like this, who's 65, fragile, like you said, resistance training is anything that is slightly outside of his everyday life, adding resistance to easy movements. You know, I would take somebody like this, and if they could sit down with control, so if I could have them just put their hands out in front of them and slowly sit down with control so they don't plop down on a chair, then that would be an exercise. I'd have them slowly sit down, sit at the bottom, and then stand
Starting point is 00:49:37 back up. And I'd keep the intensity very low. We'll do five of those and then we'll rest. I could take somebody like that and I could have them try and straighten their arm up above their head but they can't because they don't have the strength and mobility. Okay, so what we're going to do is for 10 seconds, I want you to try and get your arm straight as you possibly can over your head. So the resistance is just their own body, their own body not allowing them to do it and they're pushing against it and that would be a version of an overhead press. Really, you just take them where they're at, meet them there, and then slowly advance them forward and modify exercises for their body.
Starting point is 00:50:11 It's really up. And this is where I would look specifically at their stability and how they can control their body. And if they have that much established and then I can sort of gradually add to that, that's what I'm gonna look at. And it's gonna be something as simple as reinforcing their posture
Starting point is 00:50:32 and getting them to understand how to tighten their body, where they need to tighten it to be able to ground themselves and to be able to manage a weight. So really it's about being able to manage weight before you even start moving it and doing crazy things with it You know for me like I like to take a lot of these types of clients
Starting point is 00:50:50 You know through walking patterns and do stuff like it looks like farmer carries But it's just real gradual amounts of weight that I could see how their body reacts to because as you move now you have to compensate for to because as you move now you have to compensate for this load differently. And so how are they going to be able to maintain control? Are they going to stay tight in their core? Are they going to be able to keep this upright position? And then or stuff on the ground. How can we get up from the ground and use strength and coordinate their limbs and their muscles
Starting point is 00:51:24 and contract properly even to pull this off. Well, we have a lot of great free assets for this person, and then we have stuff that we have programs, right? So I would definitely take advantage of the maps prime webinar dot com, and then the prime pro webinar dot com for him right away, because that's something that he absolutely should be incorporating. Now that's not resistance training, it's mobility work and like an assessment with them with
Starting point is 00:51:51 like his movement like Justin was alluding to, but that's a place that I would start him at. I would start him there and then I would also start him with map starter. So many of the exercises that are in there are designed for somebody in this case, right? Somebody who is advanced age, hasn't really ever resistance trained or maybe hasn't resistance trained in decades. This is a perfect place for most people to start. Using that and incorporating that with those two webinars,
Starting point is 00:52:21 I think would be incredible tools and a great place for him to start. And you literally could start as little as, you know, the webinar, have him follow it along, you know, follow my prime pro webinar for one of the days and then take one of the days at a map starter and start him right there. Two days out of the week, one day's heavily focused on mobility stuff. The other day is focused on real basic strength training movements to get him going and then build upon that. Yeah, but what's true for the 65-year-old,
Starting point is 00:52:46 whose fragile is also true for the fit in strong 20-year-old, when you train yourself, all you're doing is you're challenging yourself above your current capacity. So wherever that is, I mean, I'll give you a story. I trained a guy named Frank years ago, was in his 80s, and he was on a walker. See, I had a very hunched over, posh, on a walker. So he had a very hunched over, posh on a walker. And the very first day I trained him, the exercise was, I'd have him hold his walker, and
Starting point is 00:53:09 then I'd have him let go of his walker and just try and stand up as straight as he possibly could, maintain his balance, we'd hold that for five to ten seconds, then he'd go back down and grab his walker. That was one rep, and we would do that, we did that for the first few times we worked out. Eventually it was easy for him to kind of stand up against strong. And then I had to have him take a couple steps
Starting point is 00:53:27 without the war. It's just challenging yourself a little bit above your current capacity. And that's true for anybody, not just this person we're talking about. You gotta meet people where they're at. Next question is from Trey Thayer. Where do you draw the line between deciding to improve
Starting point is 00:53:43 your health naturally through diet, exercise, and sleep, or using more unnatural methods like supplements and medication? How do you strike a balance between these two methods? Good question. Okay, so here's a good rule of thumb. Focus on diet, exercise, sleep, and lifestyle, and focused entirely on those and if those are not great, don't waste your time with supplements of medication. Now there is a caveat. There is a caveat. If the supplements of medication are needed to help you with your sleep, to help you with exercise, then those can sometimes be of great value. So let's say you have anxiety issues that are really, really bad and you're anxiety is so bad that it's hard for you to even focus on eating a good diet.
Starting point is 00:54:32 It's hard for you to work out because you're at a breath because of the anxiety. You definitely can't sleep. In that case, natural supplements might help like a organifies. Gold juice can help with something like that or Ned's hemp oil can help with something like that, and they'll help you enough so that you can get
Starting point is 00:54:49 the good sleep or good exercise. But the rule of thumb really is focus on the diet, exercise, sleep, and lifestyle first, because those are the things that cover 95% of everything anyway, throwing supplements or medication on top of that, it's not going to do a whole lot. I mean, the truth is, and I think this is,
Starting point is 00:55:07 and this is something that I feel like I've had to have this conversation more with somebody who maybe has listened to us since the very beginning, and then they're still around right now, and we have all these different partners of things like Juve and Felix Gray and, you know, Organifi, and all the great companies that we have partnered with, but our messaging is still never changed.
Starting point is 00:55:27 Ideally, you do not want to have to use any of that stuff, and that's what I think we should all be searching for. I mean, in a perfect world, I've got a great sleep routine. I don't need any assistance. I do a good job of turning my electronics off at an early enough time that my brain can settle down at night. I don't need any of these tools. I'm eating correctly enough whole foods and hitting my macro targets that I don't need a protein powder. These are all tools to help.
Starting point is 00:55:57 And I think that if you find yourself dependent on supplements or medication, you're just kind of putting your finger in the hole. You know what I'm saying? Like there's still a hole in the boat and you need to patch it and fix it. I don't think it's a good idea to just accept that oh, this is how I need this to go to sleep every single night or I need this in order to hit my
Starting point is 00:56:19 protein intake. I'm always striving to get my protein and take through whole foods, but it doesn't mean that I don't have like five jugs of protein powder above my refrigerator. I do. But they last me quite a while because I use them intermittently. I use them as needed. I don't use them like, oh, this is just part of my routine.
Starting point is 00:56:38 I have two protein shakes every day to make sure I hit my targets. No, my goal always is to make sure that or try to make sure that I get my protein and take through whole foods. But the reality is a lot of times it doesn't happen. And so when it doesn't, I use these things. And the same thing goes for like you mentioned the net and the, and I mentioned Felix Gray and all these partners we work with in jive. Like, I mean, my goal is to get out in the sun for an hour to two hours every day and get it on my body. Like let Like let the natural sunlight give me all the benefits that it provides.
Starting point is 00:57:07 Now, when it doesn't, I discipline myself to make sure I spend 20 minutes in front of my juice. So, but what I don't do is go like, oh, I've got the juice light, so now I never need the sun. Like that's not, I don't think that's the right mindset. These are interventions. These are things that I would hope like are used as a catalyst to then promote more healthier behaviors and really seek those out. And I have this conversation quite a
Starting point is 00:57:31 bit with my family members because it's always like what's the new thing? What's the thing that's going to help me sleep better? What's the thing that's going to help my performance in the gym? And it's always the same answer for me, but they wanna go to the supplement, they wanna go to that, the bio-device, something that they didn't know about. And it's nothing unique or new really that's gonna get you there, other than what works is the good sleep,
Starting point is 00:57:59 the good diet, the good regimented training program, and consistency, and that's always gonna be the answer, and how can we find our way back there is really what the conversation should be about. Yeah, you know what's funny is they do studies on people who take supplements, and they find that people who take health supplements have much better health, so you think,
Starting point is 00:58:17 oh, it's the supplements. No. No, when they go deeper, it's because people who tend to take the time to buy health supplements and take them consistently consistently care about the health That's right. So they also have better diets. They also exercise and when they control for that That's where you see all the all the I mean I have all of these things right? So and just you know back to the juice the feelings great all these awesome things and I use them all right
Starting point is 00:58:38 But I also don't go. Oh, I'm not gonna, you know, try and be good about you know the sun or sun or try and be good about turning my, like that's always the main goal. The reality is I know that that doesn't always happen. And so this is where I find value in owning or having these things at your disposal, but you don't ever want to become dependent on it. Next question is from Jay M. Key. Is it ever a good idea to listen to your appetite when it comes to nutrition? I feel like as long as we eat healthy and don't completely overdo it,
Starting point is 00:59:09 our appetite should be a good indicator of how much food our body really needs. Oh yeah, I'm gonna give you an answer, but there's a strong disclaimer here. So yes, your appetite is the best indicator of how much you should eat. Here's the disclaimer. Yeah, maybe for 5% of you. Yeah, most, yeah, you have to have a healthy appetite,
Starting point is 00:59:31 healthy meaning, not like when I say healthy appetite, some people think, oh, it means you have a big appetite. No, that's not what I mean. I mean, a balanced appetite, you also have to understand how to read your body's signals and have a good relationship to food and your body and your emotions. Yeah, if you understand cravings versus real hunger too.
Starting point is 00:59:46 That's it. If you don't have that understanding, if you grew up in a way like most people where you valued food mainly for its flavor and its hedonistic value, if you've learned to eat food to make you feel better when you're stressed or anxious or depressed. If you have a body image where you don't like the way you look and so you manipulated your food to change it in a way that's unhealthy, if you're like most people, your appetite is a terrible, initially is a terrible way to judge what you should eat because then people say,
Starting point is 01:00:22 well, I'm hungry all the time, like right now, I could eat a donut, right now, I could eat pizza, right? I just ate four slices of pizza, I'm still hungry for ice cream. They don't understand what real appetite means and they don't have a good connection. So it's like, it's almost like trying to read a map.
Starting point is 01:00:36 It's like, is a map a real great way to navigate? It is if you know how to read a map. If you don't have to read a map, it's just a piece of paper. It's not gonna tell you anything. I don't know how to ordinate it myself. I don't know where North is, South is. This map is more valuable to me to burn it and to fire, to keep me warm than it is to help me navigate.
Starting point is 01:00:53 Your appetite, if you don't know how to read it and you don't have a good relationship with yourself and with food, it's not gonna help. Yeah, I think this is a dangerous place for most people. I just really do. I just don't think there's a lot of people at this level. I think in order to be, not only would you have had to really pay attention
Starting point is 01:01:07 to all these markers of like how my skin is, how my sleep is, how my energy is, how my hair, my stool, not only have the tees, all that stuff out to really get an indicator on like how your body is responding to the foods that you're eating, you also probably have to be eating a 99% whole food diet too. Yeah. Because the process foods are engineered for you to make you want to eat more in their
Starting point is 01:01:30 calorie dense. So if you're relying on... Basically, they're appetite drugs. Right. Yeah, so if those are in your diet, and this includes healthy products too, by the way, you know, protein bars. I mean, that was one of the things I remember telling you guys when I was competing, I noticed that I did some shows
Starting point is 01:01:49 where I allowed protein bars into my diet and then I had other ones where I did none at all. And this was just for personal. I was curious if it would change how difficult it was to diet, if it would change the way my body looked on stage. And it was very minimal for the average person. But what I noticed was the cravings of those things. Like, I would go from not having any protein bars,
Starting point is 01:02:09 whatsoever, then I'd have one, and like, oh my God, it would stimulate me wanting another one. Before you knew it, I was, and because they're balanced macro wise, I could get up to eating four protein bars in a diet, still diet for a show and getting good shape and look good. But what I noticed was the way it would promote me to want to eat more and more of those, which made it more difficult for me to restrict
Starting point is 01:02:28 and calorie. So it really depends on how your current diet is, how much work you've put into really learning your body's natural signals of hunger or you being satisfied. So to me, there's a very, very small percentage of people that, I mean, this is true in two to eating, right? Like, this is the, the pinnacle that I think most of us are trying to get to. I mean, I'm in this over 20 years now, and still don't think I've mastered this. I think I have a good, a good idea and a good control, but I don't think I've mastered it. Yeah, and two, you could just eat potatoes and be satisfied, but you could be malnourished, you know, at the same time.
Starting point is 01:03:06 And so you have to put some thought and effort in what you're consuming still, always. And that's just something that, you know, you don't wanna just fly by one indicator alone. No, no, and in the past, I mean, it was what was available to you, and whether or not you hunted something and killed it, and then your body would tell you when to stop eating it,
Starting point is 01:03:25 so you don't, because you could hurt yourself by over-eating, but that wasn't hard to do, because it wasn't heavily processed. I mean, heavily processed foods, which include supplements, many cases, like protein bars and shakes and that kind of stuff.
Starting point is 01:03:38 They're number one goal is to make them as palatable as possible, which essentially means overcoming your natural satiety signals, that's what it means. In fact, I don't care what food category there is. I don't care if it's health food, junk food, dessert breakfast, lunch and dinner. If you want to guarantee yourself a number one
Starting point is 01:03:59 selling food item, it has to be the one that is the most palatable. It doesn't matter, even health foods. Go through all the health food categories and pick the number one selling protein powder, the number one selling. So that's one of the tastes of that. It's the one that's the most palatable.
Starting point is 01:04:13 It's not the one that is deemed the healthiest at all. So that's something you want to pay attention to. Now, and again, Adam talks about it being a pinnacle. It's not, I wouldn't even say it's a pinnacle, it's not a destination, it's still, it's always a process. It's just a process of awareness, it's a process of deconditioning yourself from how you've always ate before
Starting point is 01:04:32 and learning how to eat, definitely, moving forward. But once you start to get the hang of it a little bit, you do start to read your hunger a little better. Now, I mean, years ago I got to a point where I would eat a meal and I was able to identify when I was satisfied. Before that, I wasn't satisfied until I was way over full. Like I would eat, you know,
Starting point is 01:04:53 at a family dinner and I'd eat, eat, eat, eat, and then I'd eat, eat, dessert, and then at the end of the night, I'm like, I'm laying in bed and I'm like, oh my God, I can't, I feel terrible. Like what have I done? Why do I always do this to myself? And then I'd repeat it again the next time around. I got to the point where I would eat a dinner and then I'd be like, I'm actually satisfied.
Starting point is 01:05:13 I'm reading my appetite, I'm reading my satiety a little bit better, whereas in the past, this may be because the way I was raised or the way we enjoy or celebrate food, it was like how much can you possibly fit in your mental competition? Yeah, and in fact, you know, this is a saying in my family, they'd say,
Starting point is 01:05:30 do you have room for more? Like, well, can you possibly squeeze your food? Let me think about it. Yeah, you know. So you can make. So look, my pump is on YouTube as well as the podcast apps. So if you want to watch the podcast, go to YouTube, my pump podcast.
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