Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1431: The Best Order to Do Exercises, How to Brace Your Core When Lifting, Ways to Help Loved Ones Get In Shape & More

Episode Date: November 25, 2020

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about how to practice bracing the core for lifting, the best order to do the big lifts if performed in a single workout, ...the definition of fitness, and helping a significant-other get in shape. How the guys consume Ned products. (6:53) Life after kids with Mind Pump. (8:42) Random Hour with Mind Pump. (16:45) Why some things do not require signs. (26:00) Strange Laws with Mind Pump. (27:37) Exciting news from Butcher Box! (31:56) Studies with Sal. (33:10) Why we must stop breaking people into groups! (36:06) Check out the 3rd Rail podcast with Bret Weinstein. (37:40) Fun Facts with Justin. (40:40) #Quah question #1 – How do you practice bracing your core for lifting? (44:59) #Quah question #2 – If I were to dedicate a workout only to the essential five (squat, deadlift, bench, row, and overhead press), what order would you do them in? (47:55) #Quah question #3 – Define fitness? (54:04) #Quah question #4 – Do any of you have experience helping a significant-other get in shape? I’m having a hard time balancing being a good or nice boyfriend, while also trying to be strict or real with my guidance and advice. (59:51) Related Links/Products Mentioned November Promotion: MAPS Ultimate At-Home Workout Bundle for Only $99.99 Visit NED for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! The world's most expensive pigeon is a Belgian racing bird worth $1.8m French school asks parents not to throw children over fence Pennsylvania governor who required COVID masks be worn indoors bans alcohol sales night before Thanksgiving Florida’s governor drafts laws that would allow people to shoot looters The Real, Tragic Story Behind That ‘Roof Korean’ Meme You May Have Seen Visit Butcher Box for this month’s exclusive Mind Pump offer! The mere presence of your smartphone reduces brain power, study shows -- ScienceDaily School District Decides Asians Aren't Students of Color Bret Weinstein and The Woke Movement – The 3rd Rail with Sal Di Stefano TheMunkDebates - YouTube THE MANDALORIAN IS ABOUT TO FINALLY ADDRESS A DISTURBING JEDI TRUTH Mind Pump TV Hidden Benefits of The Farmer’s Walk Stop Trying to Convince Family to Exercise – Mind Pump Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Nature is Metal (@natureismetal)  Instagram Bret Weinstein (@bretweinstein)  Twitter

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Starting point is 00:00:49 there's only one place to go. Mind, pop, mind, pop with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. We are the number one fitness health and entertainment podcast. This is Mind Pump. Now in this episode, we answer fitness and health questions that are asked by our audience. And the way we opened the episode
Starting point is 00:01:10 is with an introductory portion. Today's intro was 40 minutes long. We talked about a lot of current events and studies and had a lot of fun. After that, we got into the fitness questions. Let me give you the breakdown of today's episode. We started out by talking about hemp oil from Ned. I took a lot of it the other night and it felt like an edible.
Starting point is 00:01:28 So I got a little high. Kind of interesting. Anyway, Ned makes the best high quality hemp oil extract you'll find. Anywhere, there's a lot of hemp oil out there. Most of it's garbage, not Ned. It's third party tested. It's high in cannabinoids. It's actually quite effective.
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Starting point is 00:02:10 It's very different when you have kids. Things change a little bit. Then I talked about the world's most expensive pigeon. You won't believe how much some Chinese guy paid for a pigeon. It's mind blowing. Then we talk about throwing kids. You have to listen to the episode to know what's going on.
Starting point is 00:02:25 Yeah, that's not a sport, but it definitely happens. Which led us to talk about a cool law in Pennsylvania. They made a new order requiring people to wear masks in their home. Yeah. When they have guests over, I don't know how they're going to enforce that. Do it. Then we talked about another state, Florida. They went a different route.
Starting point is 00:02:41 They passed a law that says you can shoot people who loot. So that's kind of interesting. Yeah, different ideas out there. Then we talked about our sponsor Butcher Box. They make grass-fed meat, and they deliver it right to your door. And right now, if you sign up, you get six, one, two, three, four, five, six.
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Starting point is 00:03:20 reduces your brain power. So that's right. You have a smartphone next to your dumber. Then I talked about how a school in Washington now calls Asian kids white kids. I talk about the interview I did with Brett Weinstein. It's on our YouTube channel under the third rail. It's called the third rail show.
Starting point is 00:03:39 It's a good show. Go check it out. It's spicy. And then just then talked about some local filming happening by his house. Was it porn? Was it horror film It's spicy. And then just then talked about some local filming happening by his house. Was it porn? Was it a horror film? You decide. We don't know. That's 40 minutes. After that, we answer some questions. Here's the first question we answered. How do you practice bracing your core for lifting? The next question, if I were to decide to to work out and only do the five most
Starting point is 00:04:03 important exercises, squats, deadlifts, rows, bench presses, and overhead presses. What order would you do them in? The next question, this person says define fitness. Sure. All right. We'll do that. We'll talk about the meaning of life. And then the final question, this person says, do you have any experience
Starting point is 00:04:21 helping a significant other get in shape? Like what pointers do you have for training your girlfriend or your wife? Yeah, don't pinch your stomach. Don't do it. Also, look, right now we're running a huge holiday promotion. A lot of gyms are closing back down. A lot of people are working out at home. In order to help people out, in order to help our listeners out, here's what we've done.
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Starting point is 00:06:54 We're in. We got a good show for you today. It's like the hunch to go out. I like the way they do that. Yeah. It's always funny. Hey, have you guys tried taking like a big dose of the really potent Ned?
Starting point is 00:07:09 Well, I thought I was taking the correct dose until you corrected me. Well, you're immune to everything. You just do like the entire dropper like five times a row. You never feel anything. That's what I did, right? And it sounds like, that's not right. It's supposed to be five drops.
Starting point is 00:07:24 Well, so I know it's just not five eyedroppers. Five bottles. No, I took two, I got the strongest dose right at the 1500 one or whatever, and I took two full droppers, legit, and I don't know if they're gonna be mad that it says wrong. I felt like I had an edible.
Starting point is 00:07:40 Wait a second, so you're still using the regular full spectrum. Right now I'm using that during the day. Because I like to sleep, the sleep, I've like, oh yeah, yeah. Since they came out with the sleep, since that was mainly, I mean, obviously I've talked about before where, you know, I get all hyped from speaking
Starting point is 00:07:57 or doing something like that. Like, so I would then still use my regular net, like kind of calm down. That's what I've been doing during the day. Yeah, anxious, calm, be calm. Bring down anxiety or that feeling, that feeling of anxiousness. I would use that, but for sleep, the sleep is...
Starting point is 00:08:13 The sleep one, here's why I'm not, It's a knockout. Because my sleep is so interrupted with the baby, that I don't, I wanna make sure I can wake up. Yeah. Not that I'm too groggy, but or anything like that, but I wanna make sure that I can hear things, my own paranoia. Yeah. But the regular oil, you know, not that I'm too groggy or anything like that, but I want to make sure that I can hear things, my own paranoia.
Starting point is 00:08:26 But the regular oil, hemp oil, the 1,500 one, right? Two full droppers, I did that in like an hour and a half later, I'm like, did I have an edible? Like I legit felt like I had an edible. So I don't know. So speaking of that, so I'm, I last night, I thought about you as I wasn't sleeping either last night. It was like, oh, it takes me when I'm out. I know, I know. I know. I know. I start talking. I know. I start seeing if you're up with. Where are you awake? Up with me.
Starting point is 00:08:50 Face time. Yeah. Two o'clock. Well, this is what I thought. I said, you know, because I've asked you, I've asked you, Jessica, you guys have the nanite, right? You guys have the camera thing. Yeah. And so the thing that I was asking you before was, you know, your previous two kids, that technology didn't exist yet. And so, you know, you didn't have a partner who was staring at the camera all the time. And so, I'm very curious if you run into the same things that I've ran into with Katrina and the camera. Well, last night we had another one of these incidents with what happens when you stare
Starting point is 00:09:20 at the camera. It's still at like two o'clock. So, I'm out. Like, I'm asleep. It's like 145 or so, two in the morning, and I wake up to her freaking out because she's watching the camera and he goes to climb out and she does that, you know, your partner when she,
Starting point is 00:09:34 they make that scream of like someone's in the house or like, the accident, you know, the terrible when you're driving, you know, that scream and you're like, and I don't know if it's just something that's innate in us, we're like, you just, you shoot out, you know, you scream, and you're like, and I don't know if it's just something that's innate in us where like you just shoot out, you know, you shoot up, ready, yeah, I'm angry, I'm ready. Yeah, I'm ready. Hands are straight up on your, I'm awake, you know,
Starting point is 00:09:52 I have to win, so when that, I hear that like scream or fear in her voice. And here's the worst thing, when you don't have anywhere to direct it. Oh yeah, then you get mad at them. Oh yeah, yeah, cause Jessica will do them a drive it. We'll be driving and she'll hit me with her hand. And then I'll I'll yeah, and then is that corny does that smell of time too? Yeah, it drives me crazy. Yeah, and there's nothing and then I mad at her. I'm like, can you like that exactly how?
Starting point is 00:10:12 Yeah, that's exactly how I saw this, you know, unfolding like for miles. Yeah She's like you know, it's like just enough. I saw this Which is so bad. Yeah, so I had one of those moments last night. So what was he doing? He was starting to, she thought he was starting to climb out of the crib. You know, and he didn't, he didn't climb out. Nothing happened.
Starting point is 00:10:32 Well, that's gonna happen though. But, I, of course, it's gonna happen. And if you didn't have a camera, he would do it. You know what I'm saying? And he probably will crash the first time and it won't go so well, but that's like part of having a kid, you know, where she just saw the beginning of it and screamed, you know, and I'm like in a dead sleep. So I shoot out of the bed.
Starting point is 00:10:50 We're ready to fight somebody. And I'm asking her, what's going on? What's wrong? What's wrong? And she's just like, I think he was going to get out of the bed. You wouldn't mean you think he was going to get out of the bed. You screamed like that. I had a dream, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:03 Oh, see real. So yeah, I was, I was wide away last night. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Seen real. So yeah, I was wide awake last night. Yeah, little kids are funny. When they're that small, they can do some falls that would kill you as an adult because they're 200 pounds. They weigh nothing. It's physics. Yeah, and they weigh nothing
Starting point is 00:11:18 and they're a foot and a half from the ground. They just boom. Yeah, I remember once my son literally flipped off the slide, like pink, pink, pink. Now if I did anything remotely like that, broken bone. Oh, I mean, that's easy. That's the dexterity that they have. Like in their joints and how limber and flexible they are, like it's, yeah, they just sort of bounce around.
Starting point is 00:11:38 Yeah, they hit their head. Don't, so yeah, we had that. We also, you don't want it to happen. Yeah. You know, something that I love about Katrina too is like, so last night we had that. We also, you don't want it to happen. You know, something that I love, this is what I love about Katrina too, is like, so last night we had, and I try and,
Starting point is 00:11:51 you gotta follow it up with a nice story. I am gonna follow it. I'm gonna try to do that. I'm getting better at this. I gotta do that more often. I'm getting better at this. We gotta assist you on this. Yeah, so I'm trying to become more cognizant of us taking time
Starting point is 00:12:05 as parents to like literally shut down So I'm trying to become more cognizant of us taking time as parents to like literally shut down and we just talk for a few hours with no distractions, no television, no other people, just like sitting in the living room, talking to each other about our son. Because we're really easy and I'm sure all parents can relate to this. You know, you get wrapped up in work and raising the kid
Starting point is 00:12:24 and you know, if you do have those moments of like peace and quiet for an hour or two, you normally are doing something where you're reading or you're watching a movie or just decompressing or maybe being romantic. So there's not a lot of these moments, and I'm trying to be better about picking up that we haven't done that in like a week or two,
Starting point is 00:12:40 so making sure that like, and it's been great because it allows us to check in with each other and things that we are seeing in like Max and behaviors and stuff. And so we were both sharing like, are we starting to see like our personalities like come out in him yet? And she's like, you know, he's got this thing
Starting point is 00:13:01 that he can like manipulate already. Like he sees, like I told him. Who straight is that? he's got this thing that he can manipulate already. Like, he sees, I guess who's straight as that? Well, I think we both kind of have that a little bit. You know what I'm saying? Katrina's like, I thought she was trying to put it on you. No, no, I said, yeah,
Starting point is 00:13:14 because she's got that in or two, and I manipulate such a strong work, because that's what it is right now at this age, but it's his way of getting away, his way without crying or fighting or doing other things. And so one of the things that, uh, I, when I put him down, I've shared this on the show before I didn't share with you guys that, uh, I allow him to like work out all this energy on me, right?
Starting point is 00:13:35 Like so the routine is when we go to bed, he, uh, you know, we go in the room. It's pitch black. I, I sit in the rocker with him. He is probably finishing his bottle up, as soon as his bottle's done, he throws his bottle on the ground and then he goes through this little phase of, you know, head budding my chest and like, you know, flipping over, talking, laughing.
Starting point is 00:13:56 You got it all the way, you got to get all the wiggles out. Right, and I, so, and my routine is, I don't, it's pitch black while he's doing this and he's in my lap and we're on the rocker. I don't say anything to him. I'm completely silent and I just allow him to do it. Headbutt me, kind of grab on me, pull on my beard, like roll around and I just kind of do this thing where I don't let him get off of me. So you're like a kiddo with him. Yeah, exactly, right? So I'm just kind of, and then eventually, eventually, he wears down and then he falls asleep.
Starting point is 00:14:26 What are nanny and Katrina's mom, both are guilty of, they have a hard time sometimes putting them down. Because he knows that once he gets down to the ground and he can go play or move around, like he'll convince them that they're, he's not ready to go to sleep yet. And so they end up having to like forfeit, that gets over. Like once you let him down and move around or you communicate to him, he's like, he knows he's not gonna have to go down. He'll just keep playing and he'll be fun, right?
Starting point is 00:14:54 So they have a heart, it's like, and it's, you know, grandma doesn't want to be all hard on him. He's like, I'm fine. Yeah, I'm playing. Yeah, I'm playing. I'm talking to you. I'm having fun. And so then they go, oh, he's not tired and so and Katrina
Starting point is 00:15:06 Like, no, he's tired. He's just running game on you right now. He knows that if you like talk to him and you play with him while you're trying to You cannot get behind the eight ball with kids and sleep. Yeah, especially at that age. Like they miss a nap or a couple hours. You're gonna pay for that. Yeah, there's it's gonna come up. Yeah, they get crazy. Yeah. What makes you realize now, like, or at least for me, it makes me realize, why so many parents, like, when I was a single guy with friends that had kids, you're always like, dude, you never come out and, you always leave by seven and, you know,
Starting point is 00:15:37 you've seen the latest movie. No. Yeah, they're always like that, right? But then I realize like, wow, how much you value the routine, because when they're on the routine? Because when they're on the routine, you're screwed for a while. Yeah. Yeah. You got to be on that routine. That's what makes it so, so difficult. It's like, I remember when I first, when my son was born, you know, Saturday mornings used to be able to sleep in because Friday night, you stay up late or whatever.
Starting point is 00:16:00 Kids don't sleep in when they're that age. Yeah. So you go out, you stay out till two o'clock in the morning, you're still up at 6 a.m. So you're not going out no more, because the kids ain't gonna let you. There's no appeal there anymore. Yeah, no, there's nothing at all, dude. Anyway, hey dude, did you ever take care of that side of the couch there?
Starting point is 00:16:16 Yeah. That Scotch guard or anything? Did you have the jizzy side? The jizzy side. You're talking with stuff. You're talking with stuff. Having a good time with that. That clip that Andrew got was so great dude I'm serious
Starting point is 00:16:27 no because you got it because he did there was some stuff it wasn't it wasn't it turned it up well I've already decided this is this is kind of his seat right here you know I'm saying like that that's it that's the next time we have to get it you gotta come in here with a black light yeah oh yeah over here don't do that don't do that oh my god yeah hey speaking of animals dude did you guys you guys want to hear some some cool news yeah the most Oh, yeah, over there. Don't do that, don't do that. Oh my God. Hey, speaking of animals, dude, did you guys, you guys wanna hear some cool news? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:48 The most expensive pigeon of all time was just sold. Did you have a mic? How much is it? My Tyson on it? No. A pigeon? I had no idea. Okay, so a champion racing pigeon sold by a Belgian trainer.
Starting point is 00:17:03 Wow. So can you guys wanna guess? Yes, pigeons race, they race them somewhere. Apparently. To what? Yeah. How did they do that? Doug, could you Google pigeon pigeon racing? Please. I don't like deliver messages. Mandy Moore. Okay. Or maybe after the apocalyptic.
Starting point is 00:17:18 I'll go back to pigeon carriers. Yeah. We race these things. This is interesting. All right. So they would sold on an auction through hoops. And yeah, so what you guys wanna guess, how much this pigeon sold for? Remember, it's a pigeon. Yeah, maybe a thousand dollars. $1.9 million.
Starting point is 00:17:35 $1.9 million. Shit! That's where it got. And what's the, how long does it take? What happened to you? Yeah, like what an investment. Like a cat just comes out now. It's out.
Starting point is 00:17:44 Oh, did you see that nature's metal clip of the cat who got that bird? No, I love that channel. No, I was just who got me turned on. I love it. I do too. Like it was a rainy day. 1.4. No, that's 1.4 pigeons flying.
Starting point is 00:17:58 Thou, okay, so what did that? Well, that was a majestic picture they had of on race day. So they, they take the pigeons and I think, oh, they majestic picture they had of them. On Rastay, so they take the pigeons, and I think, oh, they release them by the hundreds or thousands of kilometers away from their lofts, and then they let them go, and then they see who gets their first. Okay.
Starting point is 00:18:15 All right. So that's the right. I mean, that's really exciting. Nine million dollars. So the name of the pigeon is New Kim, two-year-old bird, bird was sold on an auction website New Kim like newcom. No, just new and then Kim like our dear leader Kim. Oh, I see yeah, and a Chinese buyer Bought the racing picture. So what's the China? What's the life expectancy of a pigeon? I have no idea
Starting point is 00:18:43 No, I'm serious. I have no idea. They don't burst, don't live very long. Yeah. Well, two years old is already sold for 1.9. He's hit his peak. Well, obviously they're bending on these races, right? So he's like your race horse. Yeah, your race horse, your stud pigeon.
Starting point is 00:18:57 I just had no idea you can make that much money with a pigeon. Well, I didn't even know they, I didn't know that we have rate pigeon races. To start with. Obviously, the guy't even know they, I didn't know that we have rate pigeon racers. To start with, obviously, I think that's the opportunity. That's the opportunity. Yeah, so that's the thing. Did he give you the pigeon market?
Starting point is 00:19:10 Dang, I didn't know. 15 years? Wow. That's a long time. So I think he was two years old. I mean, think about that. Now that makes a little more sense. Oh, wait, in captivity, this is all,
Starting point is 00:19:20 this is kind of a sad fact. What a weird website, Pigeon Facts. In captivity, pigeons commonly live up to 15 years as sometimes longer. In urban populations, however, pigeons seldom live more than two or three years. So that's not good living in the urban areas. They're not doing well there.
Starting point is 00:19:39 You know what I'm saying? I remember when I was a kid, this is a sad story. When I was a kid, I went to the beach with my family and there were these teenagers. Remember when you were like 10 or 11, how teenagers were like, there's teenagers over there. Remember that? When you were like 10 or 11, it's like a big deal.
Starting point is 00:19:58 So it's like this group of teenagers and they were feeding birds bread, but I saw them Packing the bread with alka selser. Oh those assholes. Yes, dude. I've never heard of that. Yes. Oh they explode. No, I don't they're an explode Do they? I've seen them explode real? I just saw them shitting. Oh really? Yeah, I've seen one explode in the air Really? I don't know what they gave him. Yeah, dude Really? I don't know what they gave him. Yeah, dude. What?
Starting point is 00:20:23 That's a cherry bomb, bro. Let's see. Whatever it was. It started to gocacels through the... Sword of God. I also supposed to make a bird blow up. Get out of here. So something with their stomach.
Starting point is 00:20:34 So what happened? If flew up in the air and then just, yeah. No. Yeah, just exploded. No, my God. Well, I saw the ones I saw where they were just shooting on all the people of the beach.
Starting point is 00:20:44 Which, now I'm thinking back to Larry. That's hilarious, kind of mean. Well, that does make sense. Yeah, and yes. Oh, dude, so the other thing is to like in, in like, I heard that they actually like cook them up, like squab is the name for it, right? For pigeon food?
Starting point is 00:21:00 Yeah, pigeon meat, like some restaurants still like offer pigeon as a delicacy or something. Yeah, pigeon meat, like some restaurants still like offer pigeon as a delicacy. Yeah, yeah. Pigeons are like rats. Look at that up. It's called squab. Well, isn't it? Are you talking about what was in billions where they put the blanket over their head and
Starting point is 00:21:14 they eat the little bird? Oh, that was different. That's something else, right? Yeah, that's something else. It is a young, unfledged pigeon. Yeah, see, squab. Wow. It looks like a little chicken.
Starting point is 00:21:24 How did you know that random fact? I just, you know, it's all in here. Yeah, C-Squab. Wow. It looks like a little chicken. How did you know that random fact? I just, you know, it's all in here. Yeah, just random worthless information. Yeah, per percent. It's good podcast stuff though. Maybe you guys don't know, I know. Yeah, so that's how it works. Wow, that's interesting.
Starting point is 00:21:36 Well, my dad was a kid growing up in Sicily and they were poor. He used to go up to the hills and he would, he told me the stories. He would take this, this tape or glue, put it on a branch and then birds would fly and get stuck on it and then you go over and you kill them all and then his mom would put them in the sauce. And they'd have meat sauce. It's true. Yeah. Wow. That's what my dad told me. We used to catch bats
Starting point is 00:21:58 but we didn't eat. What? Yeah. You ever done that before? Don't eat a bat, dude. You take the last time someone ate a bat. You take a, you take a, a white done that before you need a bat dude. Yeah, the last time someone ate a bat You take a you take a a white towel and then you you wrap like a rock like it was about a softball size And then you when the bats are flying around when you know with that night you take it throw it straight up in the air The bat will come bite on to the towel and then the rock takes it down and it knocks it out And so he'll come back to life so you don't kill him. It just knocks him out So you can go over very gently. Hey, this is type of shit. We used to do the kid right go fuck with the back country. Yeah, yeah, this is country type of stuff Yeah, you go mess with the bat. You got about five minutes or so before he wakes back up and then flies off
Starting point is 00:22:34 Wow no wonder the bats came back. Yeah, I used to blow up ant hills. That was my thing. What? Yeah, we do put a little country too you put a fire crack cracker? Yeah, you put a little cherry bombs and like you know You get ants and whatnot. Oh, it got over me And they would be on fire too. It's terrible idea. Yeah, it was stupid You lied it you know from afar because and then all of some boom and then they all fly in the air and you realize you're gonna get rained on My fired ants. Oh, it's terrible. Yeah, and they make little like screaming noises. Hey! No, they don't.
Starting point is 00:23:07 They do? Yeah, so I think it's just like pressure. We're gonna get hammered by PETA. Hey. They're ants. That's what you want. I'm just going in sex. Speaking of animals, dude, this, well, or insects,
Starting point is 00:23:17 this was terrible, I guess, right? I'm getting ready to be on podcast, I'm gonna get interviewed, and the guy's gonna do it on Zoom, so I'm setting up the phone and the stand or whatever. And I go to close the drapes. And we have drapes that are like cream colored, so the kind of whiteish or whatever.
Starting point is 00:23:32 And there's something weird on the drapes, about a size of a, I don't know, a quarter or a silver dollar. I'm like, what is that? It's white like the drapes, a spider. There was a white spider. That is the most disgusting thing all time. I don't like spiders that are not that are a different color. That kind of reminds me of the Mandalorian second. Just not down with it. Yeah. Oh,
Starting point is 00:23:56 this, did you see that episode? All the spiders? Second one? Yeah. Are they all kind of came after him? I was so disappointed in only 32 minutes, man. What's up? What's up with that? I know. There's a short. Yeah. I was so disappointed in only 32 minutes, man. What's up with that? I know. There's a short. I look forward to that show so much. And I was like, I felt like, that was kind of the weakest episode.
Starting point is 00:24:11 The first one came out with a bang and then the third one was fantastic. Why are they doing that? What's the short episodes? I'm looking to you, Justin. Yeah, well, because they got to carry out this whole string at all out as a series. So I'm sure that, you know, they got to like,
Starting point is 00:24:24 that's a cheap way to do it. We should cut this podcast. It's really just three episodes. Yeah, it's really, this could be just a long movie. You know, and then they're just kind of chopping it in different scenes. Did Katrina not send you the Star Wars thing last night? What's Star Wars thing?
Starting point is 00:24:38 Oh, I'm texting her right now because I wanted you to read it. There's like some, I can't believe you're not up on this. There's like a bunch of like conspiracy Mandalorian Star Wars fucking news going around. Oh is this Not the eggs. No, no, no, no, no, not that bullshit. Not a bunch of fucking social justice warrior stuff It's literally like Star Wars fans that are like talking about what's going on I can't believe you to know it's oh man. I'm gonna get it So we watched haven't stayed up on it. I got school the other day by like an extreme Star Wars face.
Starting point is 00:25:05 For real? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, your DMs are like, oh yeah. Yeah. I'm trying to remember what oh yeah, it was something about like I said like I'd love to see like a grito character And then he like schooled me on the actual like species, you know of what what that was. I remember like a Rodidian or I don't remember what it was Redodians. Yeah, I'm like like the one that looks like him. Okay, you know like let's LaGree on that is like yeah, we did I'm like yeah, I know yeah, I haunt killed him I realized that. Oh man. We watched Mandalorian with subtitles because the baby was like in the corner over there So we was like really low with subtitles. I'm not gonna let it shitty. You have to watch every every the frogs, the little frog people were talking, they'd do that.
Starting point is 00:25:47 Whatever. In the subtitles. Yeah, the subtitles say speaking in frog. Every time I get you my son and I work. It was so funny. Oh, there's no. There's no. There was this. I saw this sign today. So sometimes I look up weird news and funny things. There was this this French school that put up a sign. I can see if I can set it to Doug, see if he can put it up on the TV for you guys to look up.
Starting point is 00:26:13 So they put up a sign and it's a sign and it looks like a parent throwing a child over the gate. What? Yeah, and it's like, don't do this. Okay, so maybe't maybe do this. Yeah, maybe you could pull this up here. I'll show you guys. So apparently there's a school in France
Starting point is 00:26:30 and when the school is, when they're in session, they would close the gates. It's a funny stuff. And there were actually parents that were throwing their kids over the gate because they were late. To get them there on time. It becomes a sport.
Starting point is 00:26:46 There's like a kid chucking. Yeah, yeah. So it says here that they put up signs of skate showing a cartoon of a parent sending a small child to airport. Look, look, look at him. Yeah. Don't do this.
Starting point is 00:26:58 Don't do this. Don't do this. It's not worth it. I knew they had to make a sign that it's been happening for a while. It happened and it said there were a few scattered incidents where kids were tossed, their children were tossed over the fence because they were late. You know, there's some stuff you shouldn't have to make signs.
Starting point is 00:27:14 You know what I'm saying? I've always wondered about that. Yeah, like, here's a deal. The kind of parent that throws their kid over a fence, care, doesn't give a shit about sign. Like, they're not going to look at a sign about you, right? Oh, man. We, oh, we can't do that. Yeah, over a fence. Caret doesn't give a shit about sign. Like, they're not gonna look at a sign about you. Oh yeah, man. Oh, we can't do that. That kind of parent, they don't give a shit.
Starting point is 00:27:31 That's side. So anyway. Did you gonna be late? Speaking of ridiculous stuff, did you guys hear about Pennsylvania? Yes, I did not. Mandatory mask indoor. So if you have, apparently if you have guests,
Starting point is 00:27:45 this is, I know, so funny, right? If you have guests in your home that are not, and that don't live with you. So let's say you have your family member over someone over, then they have ordered that you wear a mask in your house. Now here's the problem with that. Forget the insanity of the whole thing. How the hell did they enforce that?
Starting point is 00:28:02 Like what are they gonna do? Passing rules and laws that you can't enforce just is a stupid idea. I feel like they're just like they just like, well isn't that love telling people to do now? It's just like this. Ah, let's tell them what else can we make it is? Is that the same thing that like the parents that ground their kid for life, you know, and they're get so angry? Like that's like exact same thing. Like you can never live up to that grounding. Like you doing that is ridiculous. It's it's not going to do anything for you. It's like telling your kid, you know,
Starting point is 00:28:27 okay, when you're at school today, don't say bad words at all. All right, cool, thanks. Right. Yeah, no problem, that I'll do exactly what you say. You gotta be able to enforce whatever law or order you put forward. So either A, this is my theory,
Starting point is 00:28:39 either A, these political leaders or whatever, or so arrogant that they actually think that they'll just pass an order and people would be like, okay. No, see, I think it's catering to the people that are scared, that are afraid of all that, and they're the ones that are screaming at people and they see people on the street
Starting point is 00:28:58 that has given them ammo to go. That's their neighbor. Exactly, that's what I think. I think it's, didn't you hear the latest order? Yeah, it's more pandering, that's what I think. I think it's yeah. Didn't you hear the latest order? Yeah. It's more pandering. That's right. Shit. I didn't. What would you say? That's that like conversation. You know, speaking of stuff in other state. Did you see what Florida did? What
Starting point is 00:29:17 that passed for look to South Doug because I want to make sure I've I'm not off on this. So I don't want to legal the shoot. Yes. Wow. Yeah, I made it legal to shoot. To be like the Wild West out there. To defend businesses. I've looting ended overnight in Florida. I mean, that's what's gonna happen.
Starting point is 00:29:33 Immediately. That's what's gonna happen. Do you guys remember? It's gonna be effective. Okay, do you guys remember the rooftop Koreans during the, do you remember that? Yeah. No. The Rodney King. In that? Wait, the Rodney King.
Starting point is 00:29:45 In LA. The Rodney King riots. So, so that's true. You could allow people to shoot looters. That allowed people to show. Yeah, that's what I had. That's how you end it. No, I mean, that was a thing back then.
Starting point is 00:29:57 I remember that, like the business owners that were just really like, you know, aggressive about protecting their business. Look up rooftop Koreans, okay. So during the Rodney King riots in LA, right? So that was the video for people that know, aggressive. Look at protecting their business. Look up rooftop Koreans. Okay, so during the Rodney King riots in LA, right? So that was the video for people that know there was a guy who got beat by cops, someone videotaped it.
Starting point is 00:30:13 Anyway, the cops got acquitted, so for whatever reason, there were huge riots in LA. And Korean business owners, there were a few Korean business owners, that look at the, they got on the rooftops to protect their businesses with their AK-47s or whatever rifles and pistols and they were the businesses that didn't get looted.
Starting point is 00:30:33 The only ones. Yeah, because it actually works. And they come to the rooftop Koreans. Oh my god, I don't remember this. Oh, remember this? No, I don't. Obviously, I remember the riots and everything, but I did not remember this. Nobody fucked with their businesses.
Starting point is 00:30:46 Yeah. Look, see how they put like their cars in front and they just got on the rooftops with their rifles. Oh my god. And there you go. And nobody, like as far as law, came after them or mess with them at all. Dude, the cops had their hands full.
Starting point is 00:30:59 Right. Remember, like, what are they gonna do? You know? Well, that's kinda, yeah. So, I mean, I think it's terrible. I think that's, I would be horrible. You don't want it to resort to that, but also, yeah, you gotta think about people
Starting point is 00:31:10 just trying to protect what they've created. Especially, so here's the part that makes me a little frustrated. There's parts of the country where the mayors tell the police to stand down. So these people are going in and destroying businesses, setting things on fire, causing violence, and then the cops are ordered by the man they lose control of their entire city Yeah, and the mayor's a literally order to stand down and so here you are. Let's say you're in your business. Let's say
Starting point is 00:31:35 You have built it from scratch. Maybe you're an immigrant and you're like if I lose this I'm totally screwed So you're in your business and you're like trying to prevent looters and they're coming in police aren't helping you They're not doing anything Wow, you think any other state is gonna go that extreme like Florida? I I doubt it Texas Maybe yeah, maybe I don't know even there. Yeah, I think that's that's pretty crazy. Anyway, let's talk about some good news Yeah I'll switch it up but your box is giving away six free stakes when people sign up excellent transition right now for real No, that's excited. That's so that's a good deal six free stakes when people sign up. Excellent transition right now. Right. For real. No, that's exciting. That's a good deal.
Starting point is 00:32:06 Six free stakes when people sign up. They're going nuts. Is it say what type of stakes do you know? Yes, it is going to be a combination of New York strips and top surlines. Nice. Very nice. Do you guys like New York?
Starting point is 00:32:22 I love it. Yeah. That's one of my favorites. I'm a ribeye guy. Ribeys are good too. Ribeys normally what I get from them. Although the flays and flays. Yeah, they're flays are amazing too.
Starting point is 00:32:31 Flays are my favorite. Flays are not bad, but you gotta really cook them right. Yeah. Because otherwise it's too lean and it doesn't. You always get the flays. Yeah, I always get the flays. Well, yeah, and again, yeah, it makes, it all depends on, like, it has to be perfect.
Starting point is 00:32:42 Like, all the cooking has to, like, be a spot on. You know what I hate about fillets, the one thing, you go to the, when you go out to eat, we're all going out, I'm hungry, right? I want like a 12 ounce steak. You ain't gonna get a 12 ounce fillet. It's always like a tiny little piece of meat. I mean, you just come in.
Starting point is 00:32:58 You can't dancing it into the, to the real like goods. They normally do a six and a eight. It's rarely, you should figure that out. That's what I'm saying. And so that's not that fun for me. No. You know, that's why I like the ribeye. Yeah. You get a a six and a eight. It's rarely used to be bigger than that. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah. And so that's not that fun for me. No. That's why I like to ri-bye.
Starting point is 00:33:08 Yeah. You get a big ass ri-bye. Anyway, dude, I read a study on science daily. Great. Sight, by the way, if you want to read like up and up studies, they did the study on people using their smartphones and kind of wild what they found. So when people had a smartphone within reach, so just within reach, it was next to them in their pocket or whatever, their cognitive function declined. When they took the smartphone out of the room, they actually had better
Starting point is 00:33:34 cognitive performance. Just because of the distractability. I think it's sure. I think it's because people feel like they can rely on their smartphone without realizing it, or maybe they've distractability, but how crazy is that? Just being in the same room. I could definitely see that for like having the tendency to want to look something up or fact check what you're about to say. It's like, you know, if I have that right there, I want to make sure that what I'm saying is correct. Isn't that weird though? That's interesting. It's very strange, right? So just because it's in the same room, I'm reading the study right now. That's exactly what it was. Is that just because it was in the same room, the people performed worse when they took the phone out of the room. I think it's partially just the attachment you have to.
Starting point is 00:34:12 So I'm like, I'm like always to, I don't know what you guys do this, but I always turn my phone face down if I'm not. I do. Yeah. Because just like seeing the movement on the screen, like in all the notifications, yeah, you don't to have to, it could be out of, like, to where I can't even read it and see it, but if I just see the flashing the moving on it, it's completely distracting me. If I'm in a conversation with somebody and that pops up, it's hard to not look over at it
Starting point is 00:34:38 and see what it is. Yeah, and it's just rude. Yeah, you know, talking to people and then like, you're just constantly like, your mind is always over on your phone If it's up and you know what's going on with that. Yeah, but is it different though now? Maybe our generation, but yeah, I was just gonna say that sound like you see kids now like that's like the norm You have kids hanging out. Yeah, they're all it's normal to be like text each other without talking having no having
Starting point is 00:35:00 Together or they're talking to each other while looking at the phone. Yeah, I know, right? Yeah, I know. I know, dude. And there's arguments to say because, you know, the progression, right? The future maybe where we're kind of linked up with computers somehow, with the interfaces connected to our brain.
Starting point is 00:35:20 But scientists are arguing, we're pretty much already there. Like people don't go anywhere without that extension, without that phone. And so the only difference being connected to your brain, or are you typing your hand as the speed at which you can access your phone? I think a progression to it would be to see that,
Starting point is 00:35:37 like almost like the augmented reality, where you do see a little bit, like a notification. If you're wearing something like a glasses or anything, like instead of having to always pull out a device and looking down, I think, like the next thing is to be just looking normal, and then you can like either block it or you're looking at something that's in front of you
Starting point is 00:35:57 a little bit. I'm gonna go watch Black Mirror again. That's some good, some good episode. The argument in reality has, I think it has some promise. Yeah, I'm not real excited about it. Hey, there was a school district. You guys want to hear something controversial? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:09 So this is a good time right here. So there was a school district. I got to find where the school, I think it was in Washington state, okay. So a school district in Washington state just put Asian children in the same category as white children. So essentially what it says is, when you mark down what your ethnicity or whatever it is, it says Asian and white and then students of color
Starting point is 00:36:31 as everybody else. So now they're considering them white. Why is that? Because they're trying to show the achievement gaps. And so here's a speculation that if Asian students were included in the other students, that the achievement gap would be smaller because apparently the Asian students perform way better than the student to average everybody out. So instead what they did now is put them so they can do that same thing for like income and everything.
Starting point is 00:36:59 That was because Asians kick a white people's ass and like all the categories. Well, here's the like education, income, like all that. Well, here's a deal. I don't know why they did. I think all of them. They need to stop breaking everybody up into these crimes. And instead, it makes more sense to me is income.
Starting point is 00:37:14 Or, you know, if you have one or two parents at home, I think that makes a big difference, right? Why is it gotta be, you know, your ethnicity instead? Cause now they're trying to gerrymandor it, you know? Oh wait, Asian kids now are white. Let's put them up in this category, because it doesn't fit our original model. So eat to me.
Starting point is 00:37:31 Yeah. It's just sort of the world we live in. It doesn't make any sense. That's one school that's doing that. In Washington, yeah. And it's kind of making news right now. It's very interesting. You just did, you just interviewed Brett Weinstein, huh?
Starting point is 00:37:42 Weinstein. Weinstein. I'll say that. So did I, in the interview. Oh, you did? Oh, fuck, did he correct you? No, he didn't, but when he later on, when he said his brother's name, he said it the right way.
Starting point is 00:37:50 I was like, ugh, sorry. Yeah, no, that episode should be up. And yeah, we had a great conversation. I like him because he's very objective, smart. He's, I like having discussions with people who are objective and can really be consistent with their opinions. It's really annoying when people have an opinion on something and then it changes to suit the narrative.
Starting point is 00:38:12 You know, right, yeah. So he was, and he's a lifelong liberal, right? So that's, he's, he is, but he's often it odds with, with the current, what he calls the current woke movement. So, and, you know, like for example, you know, he became kind of well known because he was that professor at Evergreen College. So if you don't know who he is,
Starting point is 00:38:30 he, people knew who he was because at Evergreen College, they did this day where they told white students and teachers to stay home, not come to school for that day. And he said, well, that's not cool. Like you're requiring me or you're kind of forcing me. It's different if I voluntarily do it, but I'm going to come to class. And it started to riot. And his life was threatened. And the campus police were told to stand
Starting point is 00:38:53 down. So nobody was, in fact, he got a phone call from the campus police. And they said, hey, we were told not to protect you. So we're just letting you know, you know, you got to be, you got to be careful or whatever. So he's, very objective. They put him in that intellectual dark web, you know, with like Jordan Peterson, Joe Rogan, Ben Shapiro, Dave Rubin, yeah, Sam Harris. So you have people from both political sides of the political side of the show.
Starting point is 00:39:15 Are you still, I was watching that for a little bit. I think you turned me on to that, the monk debate. So they still doing that? Oh, I haven't seen that in a long time. I forgot all of them. I really enjoyed the Sam Harris and Jordan Peterson. I watched all of them. I really enjoyed the Sam Harris and Jordan Peterson. I watched all of them. Were they really good?
Starting point is 00:39:28 Yeah, they were good. They just thought provoking. Yeah. Yeah, I watched all those two, because Sam's always challenging him, which is great, and then it's great to hear them both go back. Yeah, I mean, you don't feel like they really,
Starting point is 00:39:37 I mean, of course, we're not gonna like solve all the problems or anything. It's just, it's interesting for me to hear really intelligent debate where there's back and forth, but also they can understand where the other person's coming from and see those points and their good points. I think it's so important to be able to debate and discuss especially with people who have different opinions from you.
Starting point is 00:40:00 It's so important, there's like the only way we'll get the best ideas out, or even just know what people think is to do that, is to allow people to speak. They get to talk about it. Yeah, and it's also to me, it's like, when people silence other people for their opinions and tell them they can't speak out and force them to shut up, I feel like you're coward.
Starting point is 00:40:20 Like you're so afraid of their opinion that, either your opinion is weak and you can't back it up or you're so weak and fragile that someone's words are you can't just shut off the TV or whatever you have to silence them It's like a it's the sign for me. It's like the sign of a coward, you know, oh totally dude So I woke up this morning I drove and I was like leaving to get here for work and I was stopped right away as I got up to like the top of our road and I was like, what's happening? There's this lady in like a construction looking suit with a stop sign and then I look
Starting point is 00:40:56 ahead and there's this whole film crew, production crew and like this whole production. It looked like it was like a major motion picture or something. They were up in this really weird, creepy road that was abandoned forever. I'm wondering if they're filming some kind of creepy horror movie or something right next to my house. That's interesting. This is weird. You never read about the murders that happened up there by the time? Yeah, I know. That's another part of where I was going. I was going to read the article or Doug pulled the article
Starting point is 00:41:27 I finally so Katrina sent it over to me I want it so it the the title of it Justin says the mandalore the mandalore is about to finally address a Disturbing Jedi truth. Oh, do you know anything about this? Look at a disturbing Jedi truth We have to expand that yeah, and well, maybe Doug could like give us kind of a little backstory We're having a good time. We're having a good time. We're having a good time. We're having a good time. We're having a good time. We're having a good time. We're having a good time. We're having a good time. We're having a good time.
Starting point is 00:41:49 We're having a good time. We're having a good time. We're having a good time. We're having a good time. We're having a good time. We're having a good time. We're having a good time. We're having a good time.
Starting point is 00:41:57 We're having a good time. We're having a good time. We're having a good time. We're having a good time. We're having a good time. We're having a good time. We're having a good time. We're having a good time. We're having a good time. We're having a good time. We're having a good time. We're having a good time. the first season at the end, you saw that the menacing guy that was, you know, I forget his name,
Starting point is 00:42:10 but like he came out with the with the black saber at the very end and kind of cut his way out of his. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. Oh, right. And so she's high fighter. And so the Mandalorians are trying to go get that is what you're saying. Yeah. yeah, she's trying to go acquire that again. So what's the secret about the Jedi's or that she's about to reveal? Well, there's a weird part, remember that episode when she talked about his sect of the Mandalorians that was like a princess.
Starting point is 00:42:34 Oh yeah, you know what remind me of the extremists? Like he's part of the extremists. Like they, oh, oh, so I took it like the Game of Thrones, like the wall, like there's there's like a lower class people that are in charge of kind of like being soldiers and protecting, they never take their helmets off. And then there's like the rich, the rich Mandalorians or whatever.
Starting point is 00:42:51 That's how I understood, is that wrong or no? She was saying that it was like a religious sect that was like very like, you know, extreme. And then they like pulled off of like the main branch of the Mandalore. So yeah, they made, they almost like, made they almost created their own cult in a sense and then went off. That's how I read it. I'm trying to look and read through it, but it doesn't make sense to me.
Starting point is 00:43:14 I have no idea. I don't have to. Like a foreign language. I don't know. Well, do some research and report matters. Well, it disappointed. So the original Mandalorian and Star Wars, didn't he, he was a bounty hunter and he worked for the Empire, right?
Starting point is 00:43:29 What's that? Am I tripping? The original Mandalorian and the Star Wars? He was a bounty hunter. And he worked for the jet, not the jet I worked for. No, for Darth Vader. Yeah, he actually, yeah, hired him. And he was, he part of that same sect
Starting point is 00:43:41 because he never took his helmet off, did he? I don't know. Yeah, that's a good question. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, Justin's a knife. Yeah. I mean, Katrina brought this to me. I'm telling you, I need it. I just know it was in the movies.
Starting point is 00:43:52 I haven't like read up on all the nuances of like, he's gonna get hammered his DMs down. I know, right? Get him, guys. Get him. Yeah, I don't, Katrina shared it with me. Like, I would care that much. I was like, what are you sharing this to me for?
Starting point is 00:44:04 I'm sending it to Justin. I'm like, I don't get that crazy about this. I mean, I love this show. Don't give me a wrong But I'll dive into it. Like I said, I just I've been busy. Okay Working we time to like read about the shit we expect to recap on next episode. Yeah You're really gonna have an interview We try to say Justin. Yeah, busy. I know. We try to say chested. Yeah. Not busy, I don't work. Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. Oh my God.
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Starting point is 00:45:04 for lifting? Oh yeah, this is actually quite important. And we tend to do this pretty naturally usually whenever we're trying to lift something heavy. So sometimes you'll hear trainers say draw in your midsection, not a good idea. Really what you're trying to do is you're trying to brace your core and the way I used to tell my clients to do this is like,
Starting point is 00:45:26 imagine I'm about to punch you in the stomach. You know, like, you just brace it like that. Sometimes I fake it. There it is right there. Just keep that. So here's a little, a little bit more detail, right? So before, especially before you do a heavy lift, you take a deep breath in down into your core,
Starting point is 00:45:42 so take a full diaphragmatic breath, breathe in, and then hold your breath, and then brace, and then you do your left. Then after you do your left, then take a couple of breaths, and then repeat it. What that does is that breath inside your diaphragm plus your core bracing dramatically increases the stability around your spine. Now when you wear something like a belt, your core is going to brace totally different. It's going to push out against the belt rather than bracing in the zone. Now, did you guys have specific exercises that you
Starting point is 00:46:12 like to do to teach somebody how to, because here's the thing too that sometimes people misunderstand when they, when they brace their core is holding your breath. Sometimes they think holding your breath. Oh, especially if you're doing a wrap. Right, right. So, were there exercises that you guys like to teach? I mean, obviously the fake, like you're going to punch them in the stomach to get that idea across, but did you like the four point draw on maneuver or vacuum exercises?
Starting point is 00:46:35 Like, we're almost like vacuuming like a cat cow or then I would get some neutral spine and then they would just tighten it up and also go through the breathing of it while being tight. And, you know, like little external stimulus to make sure that I could feel that they're abs or tight, but also having them sit on a stability ball with their hands out.
Starting point is 00:46:54 And this is just for the rotational part of stability. So I would kind of push on their hands with them relaxed versus then now brace. And so it's like they got to focus on that stain rigid and they feel the difference right away. For some people that was like this light bulb goes off and you're like, okay, for me the most effective way to because you can teach people how to brace and what you need to do. But then there's a difference between that and actually bracing while lifting because there's a bit of a skill involved and what
Starting point is 00:47:23 that feels like. The best thing I've ever done for that was heavy carries. Getting people to do like a farmer walk with a pair of dumbbells and teaching them to brace their core while taking steps, while being able to breathe. And with a farmer walk, he kind of gives you that feedback. You've got the heavy weights or the dumbbells in your hands. If you're loose with your core,
Starting point is 00:47:44 you start to sway a little bit, you feel a little bit of a twist. And so it teaches them how to brace while doing a movement. So that was one of my favorite ways to do that. Next question is from 713 clown. If I were to dedicate a workout to only the essential five squat, deads, rows, bench, and overhead press, what order would you do them in? Oh, for sure squat, right? Yeah. Then dead, and then probably, uh, row, bench, and overhead press. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:14 That's how it, you know, it's funny. This, just those exercises right there, you get a pretty good physique. Yeah. Just doing that, you know, I mean, it wouldn't be perfect because you're not getting rotation. A minimalist sort of concept, right? But you'd get a great workout. I would even take it a step further. Here's a deal.
Starting point is 00:48:30 At some point, I don't think it's a great idea to always squat and deadlift in the same workout. I think that your risk of injury gets a little high. Definitely if you've just deadlift before you squat, which I never think is a good idea. But even when you deadlift after you squat, which I never think is a good idea. But even when you did lift after you squat, so with a routine like that, if you were a super mental analyst,
Starting point is 00:48:51 and let's say you did five sets of every exercise, and by the way, I trained a lot of clients like this often. They'd come in and this is all we would do, I like to alternate squat and deadlift. So if you're coming in three days a week, one workout, we do squats, the next workout would you do the lift, the next workout would you do, the next workout would you squat and so on?
Starting point is 00:49:06 That's exactly how I would train for a while. I went through a period of doing five by five, and that was, I would alternate my squat, my dead less on different days. And so I would like pretty much use it accordingly to that, but like keep those main lifts, and then just keep it really simple. And I had a good results as a fact of that as well.
Starting point is 00:49:27 Well, with that logic, you would do the same thing then with overhead press and bench too. Because after you bench press, you're not getting, you're not able to lift the same you are on overhead presses you would do if you were completely fresh. Yeah, but the injury risk isn't there. Yeah, but squatting and deadlifting the same workout. Well, your low back is very normal. I mean, yes and no. I mean, if you bench press and then you decide
Starting point is 00:49:47 you're gonna go super heavy on overhead press, I would argue the risk for low back injury is just as high. It's really all it is is that if you squat and dead in the same routine and you should do it in that order for sure, you're gonna be, you're gonna be a lot weaker because you just squat at going to the dead. So you have to modify the weight.
Starting point is 00:50:05 You have to do a weight that is significantly lower than what you could do as your max lift or 80, 90% of your lift. So that's, and the same thing goes true when you go row bench press after you do bench press, you're not gonna do your max overhead press because you're definitely gonna be fatigued from bench press.
Starting point is 00:50:22 Yeah, yeah, but you know, and I'm saying eventually, right? If you're a beginner in intermediate, you're probably okay, but if you look at like powerlifting routines or strength athlete routines, they rarely deadlift and squat in the same workout. Typically, it's either a squat. Yeah, because they're also chasing max lift. That's why.
Starting point is 00:50:36 Well, they're chasing after a max lift. If you're a person that's just training, and this routine to me is completely fine three days a week. And as long as you modify the intensity of the weight, there's nothing. This is a great routine to run two, three times a week every week. Well, this looks like pre-phase and MAPs and a bulk. MAPs and a bulk pre-phase looks like this with maybe a couple of variations because you are working the entire body, you're kind of getting everything in there
Starting point is 00:51:05 and it's working every single muscle group and it's very, very effective at sending some good strength in muscle building signals. I mean, you definitely can do it. I would just say at some point when you get more advanced, you might be better off alternating those two in my personal opinion. But if you do do them all, you will squat first.
Starting point is 00:51:23 So we'll go squat, deadlift, row bench, overhead press in that order. Yeah, the order is perfect. You just gotta know that when you go to overhead press and you go to deads, you're gonna be fatigued from the previous exercise. So you're gonna have to just do less load. And I don't know, dude, I at least, okay, for me personally,
Starting point is 00:51:42 this is just me, right? I can squat and get after it, and then go into deads like a lighter load and be very controlled, safe, and not feel like I could, I'm jeopardized by form. If I go heavy bench and then I go to do overhead press, I'm more likely to hurt myself in my low back doing that. And now this has to do with I have an inch. Interesting. I have an inch overhead. Yeah, because because I have an anterior pelvic tilt So my I already have an issue with making sure that the Instagram, but yeah, because the Instagram putt going on
Starting point is 00:52:14 So but I mean that's common. I mean the anterior pelvic tilt is very common in most people And now I have a little bit of an excessive one so it's I have to constantly be Reminding myself to stay engaged, keeping the core tight when I'm pressing good weight over my head. Yeah, I rarely all go dead to overhead press because of just like the strain of the lower back, I'll feel that like when I'm then pressing a load overhead, so I don't usually stack those back to back ever. But that's just me and my own preference.
Starting point is 00:52:42 Right, that's what I'm saying. That's common wise, right? If you would look at, you know, you just randomly picked 1,000 people's workouts, you often will see a bench press and some kind of an overhead press in a workout because typically people will pair, you know, chest and shoulders. Yeah, I do that.
Starting point is 00:52:57 Rarely do you see squats and deadlifts in the same workout? Yeah, that's really do. You just don't see it very often. And I think it's because people will have a very demanding. This is like the most demanding exercise. Yeah, but again, if you're beginner intermediate and you're smart, you could definitely do them all in the same workout.
Starting point is 00:53:10 I just don't reckon when you're getting strong, you're starting to really push yourself. I think you get better results alternating those two. Well, that's the key. As you get more experienced and strong, and then you are gonna have a tendency to wanna push the weight more. This is where it gets risky is to have them back-to-back like that because they are so demanding.
Starting point is 00:53:30 If you just went and did four or five sets of heavy squats and then you're gonna go do deadlifts or that, then absolutely you're right. You know it's funny though, you do five sets of each of those right? So five dead, squat, dead, rose, bench, overhead press. That right there is better than 90% of the workouts that are on the internet. I'm dead serious. Oh, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:53:49 That simple basic thing that we just said right now. That's the need of it all. Like if you want to get fit, you don't want to buy a program, you're like, whatever, I just want to do something basic that's going to work really well. And you want to do something that's better than 90% of the garbage that's out there. Just do that.
Starting point is 00:54:03 Next question is from LT Fitness Training, Defined Fitness. I can't because that's like defining love. It's for every person, it's different. Yeah, I mean, what's one person considers fit? It may not be fit for someone else. Like a bodybuilder might be very fit for their workouts, but would be terribly unfit for, you know,
Starting point is 00:54:25 running a marathon or swimming, you know, a few laps or whatever. You really can't define fitness. I like saying something like health, health might be a little bit better, in which case I would say you have some longevity, you can move freely, you don't have any pain, you've got good blood lipid levels,
Starting point is 00:54:44 you've got good insulin response to levels, you've got good insulin, response to food, you've got decent energy throughout the day, hormones seem to be pretty balanced, but fitness is so specific. And really this is something you have to define for yourself. If you want to be able to play with your kids, go on the occasional hike, like the way you look in your clothes and just generally feel good, then your fitness goals are very different
Starting point is 00:55:10 from someone who wants to max deadlift or whatever. I totally look at it more as a ability, maintaining or improving abilities and overall function and capacity of the human body. So whatever that looks like for the individual, it's going to vary. And that's why it's such a hard thing nailed down and defined exactly what it is. But, you know, from my perspective, it's, if I have a goal or pursuit that's physical, you know, it's really like the fitness is the process to get you there.
Starting point is 00:55:43 Or it's like something that you're constantly adopting and considering in your everyday practices. So now that we've covered how I think we all agree that this is, it's hard to define this. Now do you guys have your own personal like what you think? Oh, just gonna ask that. Yeah, like general fitness. So like for me, like so I have,
Starting point is 00:55:59 and we talked about this actually on a recent podcast where, you know, I have a certain amount of weight that I feel like for those actually the big lifts that we just talked about, that I wanna be able to do. And to me, that's what being fit is for me. Like, I know I'm not anywhere near my max lifts on all those, that's okay.
Starting point is 00:56:16 I don't need to be that fit in all those areas. I wanna make sure that I'm also not weak in all that stuff. And same thing goes for even cardio. Like, by no means could I get out there right now and run three to five miles and do grade edit, but if I could run a mile, I could run a mile right now and I could do a decent amount of time.
Starting point is 00:56:33 And so I have like markers that if I can't get under a mile in a nine minutes, I'm starting to get out of shape in that area. That's not fitness to me in that area. So I need to get better at my cardiovascular endurance. If I'm not able to bench work out with 225 on bench, I know that I'm starting to lose my strength in that area. If I can't deadlift more than 400 pounds, I know that I'm losing my... And so, to me, as long as I'm staying...
Starting point is 00:56:58 And then mobility-wise, right? So, if I notice sometimes, I'll get down, I haven't been in my 90-90 in a while, and I'll get cramped just from being in the 90, 90. So I know that I'm neglecting my hip mobility. So I kind of have all these little things that I check in with myself, and I have markers for me that I say, okay, I'm pretty fit.
Starting point is 00:57:19 I'm fit, I'm healthy, I'm good, I like where I'm at. Sure, I can be better in all these things, but I don't wanna allow myself to go below that because then I feel like my fitness is suffering, but that's so individual. Yeah, yeah, for me, I like to, I wanna be able to work out, feel good in my workout, get a good pump. I wanna be devoid of major pain, aches and pains,
Starting point is 00:57:40 so I feel like I can move, I wanna feel like I could go on a hike because that's something I enjoy doing when the weather's nice. I like to go on hikes. I like to feel like I have a good libido and I like to feel like I have good sharp energy. You know, my job involves obviously being on a podcast or being on another podcast or doing media.
Starting point is 00:58:00 And if I notice that I start to feel a little foggy or not quite as quick with my comments or my thoughts, then I'll start looking at my diet, I'll start looking at my sleep and my exercise because I wanna feel very sharp. So for me, fitness means feeling sharp, feeling, you know, pretty strong, and otherwise just feeling healthy
Starting point is 00:58:21 and like I said, like I can go on hikes. Yeah, I think too, it's where you are in life. For me, it was different when I was like trying to get as much out of myself as I could in my athletic pursuits and trying to PR. And I think it's just, it's evolved now to a lot of what you're talking about in terms of being pain free, having energy to keep up with the kids and to actually have that movement where I can be explosive.
Starting point is 00:58:51 So being explosive, I think, as I'm aging, is really a high pursuit for me. Because that identifies to me if I have mobility issues or if I have any kind of pains or like the patterns throughout my day are limiting my abilities, I wanna address those things. And so for me to jump into, you know, move quickly, left the right and twist and do all these types of things to play basketball, to throw a ball, to kick a soccer ball, to run, like it really is like heavy emphasis on movement now more
Starting point is 00:59:27 than ever. But I do agree, I try and keep certain lifts in mind. I don't want to lose my strength. I still want to be able to squat somewhere around what I used to squat. I want to keep those abilities. I want to be able to deadlift. I want to be able to bench. I want to be able to overhead press. And so I keep those, I cost a check on those things. Next question is from composed cocktails. Do any of you have experience helping a significant other get in shape? I'm having a hard time balancing being a good or nice boyfriend while also trying to be strict or real with my guidance and advice. Who picked this question? I did.
Starting point is 01:00:09 This is really good, right? Okay, so I like this question because this was, this has been an interesting journey for me. I used to have a role that I would not train my girlfriends, I never did. Like so all through my 20. This was slow. Well, here's what I found.
Starting point is 01:00:24 I had a really, I was so passionate about the job. I had a really hard time if like, you know, and every girlfriend did in my 20s, so it would be like, will you train me? Are you riding a plan for me? They would ask that, right? I'm so forced to do it. They do it just like that, right?
Starting point is 01:00:38 Please me. Yeah, right, so they would ask me to do this. And whenever I would try whenever I would get really frustrated because we would be working out together and it would turn into giggling and flirting and not taking the form and technique serious and like, or if I was putting them on a diet plan, they followed it for like a few days
Starting point is 01:01:02 and then they were off of it. And it was like, so I'd have all this kind of Wasted energy and helping and I took my job so serious It was so hard for me to like switch to this like it ain't that serious for her, you know She wants my help, but then she don't really give a shit that much And so I just made like this hard rule like I don't train I don't train girlfriend that don't do that It wasn't until Katrina that I meet somebody who I actually trained died and eat and eat with. And for me, it really was, I waited, and for the first two years we didn't,
Starting point is 01:01:29 I didn't help her at all with any of that stuff. I waited until she came to me and really, really, really wanted me to dial her hand on all those things. Otherwise, it comes off as me trying to push all that on somebody who really deep down doesn't want it that bad. And that was always like this struggle in the relationship. So I mean, my advice is to make sure that the significant other really wants the information that you want to give to them because sometimes they just say it because it's like, oh, you're
Starting point is 01:02:01 a trainer, you're knowledgeable about nutrition, you're knowledgeable about working out. So help me out, but deep down, they really don't give a shit that much about it, and they're not gonna treat it the same way that you want a client to treat. It's a slippery slope because telling your client, hey, you know, that's not on your meal plan or maybe that's outside of your micro-hose is different
Starting point is 01:02:20 than telling that to your wife or your girlfriend. They feel like tyrannized. Yeah, or like, why am I not looking good? You know, my fat or what's in you? So you have this slippery slip going on. I agree with Adam. Number one, make sure they're asking you. Don't approach them.
Starting point is 01:02:34 Don't go up to them and say, hey, do you want me to try? Have them ask you and they really want to do it. And then define what that looks like. Say, what kind of trainer do you want me to do? Just focus on your workouts. Do you want me to like help you with nutrition too? Do you want me to call you out? Or do you want to just, you know, be boyfriend and girlfriend and I train you in the gym and, you know,
Starting point is 01:02:54 and that's it. And then here's the second, here's the other part. Don't take it so seriously. I hate to say that, but I mean it because if you value your relationship more than that's more important. Sometimes being right is not as important as everybody being happy. You gotta remember it's your job. So it's like you're asking your partner to step into your work every single day. And then you're also asking yourself
Starting point is 01:03:17 to outside of work work more. And it's just a little bit. The worst thing is to get in an argument or a fight with your significant other over their lack of devotion to the workout plan or diet. Like what a silly thing. Right, I was like, any other profession,
Starting point is 01:03:32 like somebody coming home and they know that they work on cars and it's just like, why haven't you fixed it? It's just a different dynamic. You know, at that point where it, like, oh, get to it, you know, it's like this, this sort of, it's not, there's not a whole lot of urgency. And so to actually get somebody else involved, I highly recommend, and this is something that, you know, I did
Starting point is 01:03:56 a, just and train my girlfriends. Yeah. I trained his girlfriends, you know, a Jerry train mind, you know, like so, that Like so that was, I have a unique situation because I started out training my wife before we were even a couple and I realized right away, this is gonna be unprofessional real fast. And so I sent her off. Offender. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:17 No, dude, I wasn't. I might fall down, hurry up and grab her. Yeah, no, I was like really professional, but also I was like very much like dude. Yeah, like this is gonna be a thing. And so I got somebody else to train her and like kept tabs, but down the road it was like only until just recently actually where like Courtney has been asking me a lot more about like what she should be doing, what kind of food she should eat, like how her training, how her posture looks, like form, technique, all that kind of stuff, I just kind of waited. I waited for that opportunity,
Starting point is 01:04:54 and she was like, really into kickboxing at the time, and asking me all these questions, why are her knees and her back hurts, and I'm like, I had to be real, I'm like, this is why, and you're not doing this to that, and then I just leave it at that and then walk away. It really, it's up to them to then follow up
Starting point is 01:05:10 and want to be educated on that subject. 24-hour fitness used to do a really cool thing. If you, as we used to get training sessions for half off, so basically you're just paying to cover the cost of the trainer and stuff like that. And the company's not really making any money off of you getting personal trainer. So I always bought it for all of,
Starting point is 01:05:30 like every girlfriend trained with like my best trainer at the time. So Justin's trained one of my girlfriends because he worked with me during that time that I was dating her. I trained a lot of people's girlfriends. So I would like here. Yeah, I would, I mean, if they were coming to me
Starting point is 01:05:42 and they were asking that, I would say, listen, you know, I, you're far better off, I'll get you my best trainer and they'll do this and, you know, and they'll coach you and help you, you'll, you'll do better. And it always worked out much, much better that way. I don't want to be that person. Like you said, or you alluded to,
Starting point is 01:05:56 so I'll like, it ain't that serious. Like it's more about our relationship and like blending my work and job, especially if you take it seriously into that. You can strain the relationship. It depends on the people. Jessica loves when I train her in the gym. She really enjoys me telling her what exercises to do,
Starting point is 01:06:12 watching her form, pushing her and motivating her. I am not a great client for someone else to train. I've just not, I've been working out so long and training myself for so long, and sometimes she'll give me critiques, and I'm not as receptive and she gets annoyed and so we've had these conversations. So it depends on the person.
Starting point is 01:06:31 I would do terrible with that. Yeah, like imagine, like if you, you know, yeah, no way. I'm just not, I'm not, I guess why don't even workout with workout partners? I don't, I don't need your opinion on it. Yeah, I know, I know I'm not a great client. I know it, I know I'm not a great client.
Starting point is 01:06:43 I mean, there'll be very few people that I think would be able to train me And you know, so that's an interesting topic. Do you have like in mind like somebody you would actually allow to kind of run you through some workouts? You know, the only way I can't even think it. Yeah, no, it's tough The only way I could is if I was pursuing something Specific and I was looking for exactly like so let's say MMA training. Yes, or like Olympic lifting. Exactly. So I'm I'm not by any means you know proficient in Olympic lifts and I know there's far better. Any Webster. Right, right. There are far better coaches out there. I would 100% hire one and love to have one teach me. Yeah, traditional resistance training.
Starting point is 01:07:23 Yeah, I can't think of anybody body. Yeah, I can't think of anybody. Bodybuilding coach, I can't think of anybody. So Daru or, yeah, like PJ performs if I'm trying to like actually jump higher, you know, like I would do that. Yeah, like if I was gonna do a Jiu Jitsu tournament, I would probably wanna work with a coach. Yeah, it would have to be a very specific goal that I have
Starting point is 01:07:38 that I'm aware that this person's far more educated than I am on the, but general health and telling me what I need to do, get the fuck out of here. And you're just, you're so set in your own way and what you do and you feel like you know your body. And I know I'm a pain in the ass with that. So, yeah, you gotta have that conversation. And I think the key is not to take it so seriously.
Starting point is 01:07:55 I think when you take it too seriously, you have fun with it. Oh, I've made the mistake, you know, you're out to dinner and then they order something. And then you're like, oh, you sure much for the diet, huh? Now you're, now you're just, let the own guilt talk to you. Yeah, now you're just to dinner and then they order something and then you're like, oh, you sure want for the diet, huh? Now you're just an own guilt talk to you. Yeah, now you're just an asshole boyfriend, for husband. Especially the waitress, here's you.
Starting point is 01:08:11 Yeah, I got that look once like, you just tell this bitch to talk to you. You're close to server. But you don't stand a trainer too, you know? Stupid. Anyway, look, my pump is recorded on video as well as audio, so come find us on YouTube. You can also find us on social media. You can find us on both
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