Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1438: The Advantages of Sumo Vs. Conventional Deadlifts, How to Accelerate Recovery, Long-Term Habits for Lifetime Health & More

Episode Date: December 4, 2020

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about the benefits of sumo deadlifts over regular deadlifts, go-to recovery methods for overtraining or overreaching, long-term habits essential for lifetime health, and starting a career as a trainer during COVID. 25 nights of holiday movies with Mind Pump. (4:11) Mind Pump’s childhood obsessions. (5:51) Sal’s kerfuffle with Jessica. (12:00) Mind Pump Recommends, We are the Champions on Netflix. (16:34) The hypocrisy of politicians. (21:56) Shout Out to Mind Pump’s top listeners! (27:25 Mind Pump’s obsession with coffee. (29:27) The important skill of having a healthy relationship with money. (38:38) #Quah question #1 – What are the benefits of sumo deadlifts over regular deadlifts? (48:00) #Quah question #2 – What are some of your go-to recovery methods for when you have been overtraining or overreaching? (52:58) #Quah question #3 – From training clients in advanced age, what did you learn about what long-term habits are essential for lifetime health? (57:56) #Quah question #4 – How would you recommend starting a career as a trainer, right now, during the COVID situation? (1:02:28) Related Links/Products Mentioned Cyber Monday Special!! (ENDS AT 11:59 pm 12/3/20) MAPS Program 65% off (Promo code “CYBERMAPS” at checkout) and MAPS Bundles 50% off (Promo code “CMBUNDLES” at checkout) We Are the Champions | Netflix Official Site Joe Rogan Shares Joey B. Toonz Video Mocking Hypocrite Politicians Visit Magic Spoon for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! The BEST Side Butt Exercise! (SUMO DEADLIFT) – Mind Pump TV Visit Joovv for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Healing the Body With Photobiomodulation - Mercola.com Inflammation and Light Therapy - Joovv MAPS Prime Webinar MAPS Prime Pro Webinar Prime Bundle Fusionetics for Fitness Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube •Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Joe Rogan (@joerogan)  Instagram Dr. Joseph Mercola (@drmercola)  Instagram  

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Today's intro was 43 minutes long. Then we got into answering the fitness questions. Let me give you a rundown. So we open up by talking about holiday movies, some of our favorites. Adam's watching one every single night. He's binging right now. Then we talk about our childhood obsessions.

Take a guess, which one of us was obsessed with Leporcawns. Yeah. Then I talk about how I sounded like the biggest asshole last night to my wife. Sorry, honey, I was very selfish. Then we talked about the cheese chasers in England. Sounds like a place Justin would love. I love this.

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Yeah, so I'm trying to, I've never done this before. We traditionally. Different movie from National Poon. That's something you don't like. That's totally different. That's totally different. Trying to do something different where we, this year, every night,

we were trying to watch it like a Christmas movie. Every night? Every night. Yeah, every night. So far so good. And I did watch the National Lamp Poon, which I hadn't watched that in such a long time. For God how good it was.

Oh, it's the best. Yeah, one of you brought it up as one of your favorites. I did my favorite. Oh, yeah. And I was like, I win. I win. Thanks. So it was Oh yeah, and I was like, I win. I win. So it was, yeah, I was freaking hilarious.

You know, I watched Home Alone again too, the night belongs great. Oh, that's the one on Next for us. Yeah, and I forgot how good it was. So good, did you, okay, now part two when he's in New York. So I haven't, I watched one so far. Do you remember that Trump is in part two? No, I did not.

Yes, dude, he's lost. Oh, he helped him. Yeah, he runs into Trump. Oh, I did not. Yes, dude, he's lost. Oh, he helped him. Yeah, he runs into Trump. Oh, I don't remember that. Yes, dude. Oh, wow. I was watching it with my kids and my daughter was like, Huh?

Why is the president? And I'm like, oh, before he was president, he did all kinds of weird stuff. Yeah, a lot of that stuff. You get a lot of nostalgia in it, too, there. I mean, you get the like the Walkman and there's like certain, there's clips of like games and stuff that you used to have. I was like, oh, this is, this is a really good flick.

It is, the part where, because I was watching all my kids and the part where he's like trying to buy something for his wife, but it's like the attractive girl at the mall. Yeah, I love that part so funny. So I'm watching my daughter's watching. She's like, Dad, what are you doing? Oh my God.

Yeah. Whenever that happens and we're watching something, I strike up a conversation real quick with her. Hey, so anyway, what's going on? When I'm trying to listen to the movie, yeah, but I want to know what happened yesterday. Speaking to my daughter, she's the reason why I'm wearing the shirt. I see your unicorn shirt.

That's tough. She said to me. Very magical. She said, Pupac, can you wear a unicorn shirt on YouTube? I said, I don't, I'm done. Done, I don't care. I'll do whatever you want. I'll wear a competitor

podcast shirt. You ask me. Yeah, I don't even care. Yeah. So tell me the story behind it, you had everybody dressed up in unicorns. No, my mom bought us because my my daughter is a huge unicorn. She's like a super fan. Yeah, she's just obsessed. It just became a thing. I think she identifies with it now. Anyway, so when a railiest was born, my mom, she's, my mom is very aware of the fact that their older siblings want some to feel special too. So she brought these unicorn shirts for all of us.

And then my daughter said, like, unicorn big sister. And then Jessica had one and my son had one. So we all warm and took a picture. See, I was really into lepchauns when I was a kid. We were really? Oh yeah. Oh yeah, I totally believed in it too.

That's weird because that's a weird thing. There was a scary scary memory. Yes, I'm the leprechaun. Well, we were kids, there was a series that I think like three leprechauns were leprechauns. The 80s and 90s. The 80s and 90s made scary movies that had everything. Yeah, I know.

We could make a leprechaun scary. Oh, a pretty critter, remember that? Yeah. With the little scary puppet. Yeah, what were the ones, what they were, there was like a cover of the horror movie was like a monster coming out of the toilet and it had like a round, like a really round.

What were those called? Yeah, those critter, dude. No, no, no, no. No, I don't think so. Oh, I don't know. I don't know. Was that the one with Gizmo? No, that's Gremlin. Gremlin, Grem I don't know. Was that the one with Gizmo?

No, that's Gremlin. Gremlin. Gremlin. Which by the way, if you shave Gizmo down. I saw the meme that said that. It looks just like a... It looks just like a dude. But why Leprechaun?

That's a weird thing for a boy to be into. Because dude, I think everybody kind of goes through a phase where you identify a lot with your Italian heritage still, but I, you know, went through that phase of like really being in, like, I'm Irish, you know, like I'm telling her where am I Irish. So I like Lepricot. Yeah, so I just was like, I'm gonna believe in all the

folklore of like everything, right? And so I was like, like, he charms every day. Yeah, exactly. This was really into it. And in my mom's, my mom exploited it. You know, and so I told you guys this, right? Like when St. Patrick's Day, like, like came around, I was in elementary school.

And I was like a super fan of like Leprechauns and whatnot. And she's like, oh yeah, like, you know, you should dress up as a Leprechaun. And like most like other people are wearing green and they're doing all this stuff and they're probably gonna dress up too. And like totally bamboozled me. I went to school dressed up as a full leprechaun.

I didn't shut up. I'm not even joking. And nobody's dressed up. Oh, that's such a thing. And I did a little Irish jig and stuff. And like, like other classrooms pulled me in to do this little Irish jig. I did not know.

I shit you not. Hold on, 15. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Totally got me chicks. Why can't I get ladies? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I shit you not hold me 15 Yeah Really got me chick why can't I get ladies yeah, yeah, yeah, so it was even Halloween It was no was even Halloween same pack bro. What if I showed up on Columbus day? Well, not you guys know where my yeah my weird like costume obsession all this it's totally for my mom

Dude she's like she goes crazy. Oh, man. Yeah, do you have any obsessions? I don't know not like that dude. Definitely not like you don't have any upset You had come on you're obsessed all of us are obsessive. I'd be something. I like what like the toys, you know Baseball cards, you know at baseball cards and micro machines like I was definitely You even bigfoot or nothing. No, I didn't have any you guys are the you know 10 foil guys You know, man, that wasn't my thing the big believer Well the problem is is interdimensional. That's what we'll never find them You guys are the, you know, 10 foil guys. You understand? That wasn't my thing. The big, I'm a believer. Yeah. Well, the problem is, the problem is, is interdimensional.

That's why we'll never find them. Yeah, I know. That's so elusive. You just slip into another domain. I was, I was lit. So when I was in elementary school, I used to love to go to a library. I know it's big chocker.

I used to go to a library and they used to have this series of books, called unexplained mysteries or something like that. And it was like a whole series. And every single book was dedicated to one conspiracy theory or one whatever. So it was like Loch Ness monster or you know, Roswell or Bigfoot. Yeah.

Moth man or Moth man. Did I read all that? Bro, Brimuda Triangle. So I literally like this is like fourth grade. I studied all these. They were so interesting to me. We would have been weird friends. Oh, yeah, for sure.

Totally. He wouldn't have told, he wouldn't have admitted it. Yeah, I wouldn't have. Yeah, I don't really hang out with him, but, you know, Hey, Sal, what are you doing to that, yeah? But hey, Justin, he's endorse me. Yeah, whatever it is. Then I'll lie, hey, I saw you in the playroom.

So I'll go to try and catch a football, hit some of the face, like, I don't know this guy. But I used to read all that shit and the ones that were the most interesting to me were aliens and Bigfoot. Yeah. Bigfoot by far was me. It was terrifying. The most plausible.

Did you ever hear that story of the guy, there's one guy, it's like one of the top stories of Bigfoot where he said that they were throwing boulders at him and his Family and they were running jewelry that story. I yeah, they have yeah, so here's a thing I with a big foot thing right too So there's like different places. There's one in Felton actually that's like a Bigfoot museum Yeah, and so we had my mom of course led this and took us like on a trip a family trip We went up the coast of

California all the way up in through like Oregon everything and stopped at every one of those big-foot like landmark museum places. Yeah dude I know I know it sounds really geeky. It's actually kind of fun. I loved it. I loved it. I loved it. I'm telling you right now Adam, you laugh, you think this is funny. But the legend of Bigfoot in some way shape or form. There's the abominable snowman. There's the Bigfoot of North America. There's I think in East Asia. There's another I can't remember the name of these. There's Harry and the Henderson. There's the movie Harry and the... There's all these accounts all over the world from all these people that didn't communicate with each other, explain that to me.

Yes, I can't. I can't. That's real. Yeah. They're really compelling stories. It's crazy. Ah. I think you're not getting sleep very much.

And so you're saying, oh, dude, this is a little delusional. No, actually speaking of which, so last night it was a little rough, right? Because we have a newborn. And I just fucked up with Jessica. Uh-oh, yeah. Would you do the dog house?

No, so she, no, we patched up. Well, you're story talked about on the podcast. Yeah, see, no, she goes, so she's doing this thing where she, she, she breastfeed, and then she pumps, because she's trying to generate more milk, and then we want to save some of the whole thing. So it's this whole process, like for Like for anybody who doesn't have a baby, breastfeeding, even if everything goes great, it's crazy.

Insane commitment. Insane. You're every three hours and it's not like, you know, breastfeeding takes five minutes, so then you wait into the three hours. It takes like 40 minutes an hour. And then they get teeth. Yeah.

And then you got, and so in reality, it's like every other hour or something like that. So it's just this crazy commitment nighttime, morning time, doesn't matter if you're trying to go pure breast milk. And then if you're trying to produce more milk or you want to save some just in case or whatever, then you get a pump in between and it's this whole thing, right? So she's doing this whole thing. She's being a champ about it. So last night, we're you know, it was a bit hectic, it was a kind of a crazy day.

And finally I get to bed, and we're sitting there, she goes, hey listen, she goes, one of the best times for me to pump is in the morning because I produce the most milk, and I feed him in the morning, and then I pump, and then, but he cries. So I need you to, if you can hold him. So I'm like, that's the time I work out.

So I'm thinking of, oh boy. I'm like, that's the time I work out. I'm thinking of a, oh boy. I'm out, dude. So crossing into the sacred zone. Yeah, so I'm like thinking in my head and I'm like, well, what time? What time? It's like, I don't know what time. She's like, it could happen or whatever.

I'm like, well, I need to know so I can schedule my workout. And she's like, well, you're just gonna have to be interrupted in your workout. And I'm like, that's the only hour that I have. Well, I don't want to be interrupted. And she's like, and you know, within 10 minutes, it felt like a massive asshole. Cause she's like, oh, that hour and uninterrupted

and she goes, you know, I don't even have 10 minutes, take a shit. I can't take a shower. It's like, I'm gonna take a shower four days. This kid's glued to me all day long and I'm just laying there feeling like a big issue. Well, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna get your back right here.

And the reason why this is so funny that you've brought this up, because it was just like, was it just a week ago, Justin, or two weeks ago when I was talking about this? Did we were talking literally about this, right? So, we're just talking about how we've all now been, I mean, we've been working together

for over six years, day in, day out, hours, and by this time, we all know each other really well. And everybody has their quirks. Like, I know I'm a pain in the ass over certain things, and by this time we all know each other really well. And everybody has their quirks. Like, I know I'm a pain in the ass over certain things and you guys have all expressed that, so we don't need to go there. I mean, we can revisit them. Yeah, we can do it another time, right? Put the note up there, like, bullet points.

But there is something that is, is borderline comical to me about Sal. And that is that, you know, that he will, nothing, everything revolves around his workout time. And if we're traveling, we're doing like heaven forbid, you miss your workout. Like so, and for us, like Justin and I, Doug are all very similar. I mean, if I got a lot of work stuff I gotta do early or I got shit, I gotta do for Katrina or something like that, well, I guess my workout gets postponed.

All right, I'm not doing it today. I'm gonna do it another day. And so that's just kind of how life for us, where Sal has built his life around his workout so well that you cannot, and it's funny because he'll come in some days late because he has a kid now, right? So he's tired and some of that.

He's like, oh my God, I was up all night long. And then I look at Justin, I'm like, this motherfucker has a little sweaty. He's got an arm pump. I'm saying, like, you obviously weren't that tired of that late to not get your fucking workout in before you came in there, but you showed up late, you know what I'm saying? I'll wake up before you come.

I'll wake up before you come. I'll wake up before you come. I'll wake up before you come. I'll wake up before you come. I'll wake up before you come. So, we laughed about it because we obviously don't razz you give you shit about it because I've learned by now that that's your time.

So, you know, you've had a form best. Right, I mean, even if you're running late, you still get your workout in. You're gonna be later now because of it, you know, you perform best. Right. I mean, even if you're running late, you still get your workout and you're going to be later now because of it. You have said it so I find it funny when you do that. And so, and I don't ever say anything to you. So now that you're bringing this up, that Jessica is kind of razzin' you a little bit or giving you a hard time and making you feel guilty, I mean, I get it because I know that's your thing. Like, I know not to fuck that. It's honestly, it keeps me sane.

That's what it really is. It's like my meditation. And if I can do that, then everything else, I'm like flexible, I can do all that stuff. But that being said, like, she makes excellent point. And my son and her priority. But it's like, right away, my reaction when she said that. Of course.

Like, no. Wait a minute. We'll schedule it. Just tell me what time. That way I can work out before or after. Like, I'll wake up early. I don't care. I don't know what time.

This doesn't work for me. Should have worked out after work. What do you want me to do? Have you guys seen that show on Netflix, The Weird, The Champions? Yes. Highly suggest. No, no, no. It's amazing.

Well, it's the weirdest competitions around the world. How's the weirdest things you've ever seen. Like so one is this cheese, like a cheese rolling down a hill and they're chasing after this rolling cheese. Have you ever seen this? It's insane. It's not even been recommended to me. This is in England, I believe.

Okay, so this is crazy. So it's been around for centuries, where I didn't even know the origins. Didn't even know how long it goes back. By the way, this hill is, it's like, it's deeper than 45 degrees. It's deeper than 40. It's like this.

Okay. They rolled the cheese down the hill. So it's essentially, I mean, it's to say that you're running down a hill, you're more like you're falling down a mountain. Yeah, exactly. And the goal is to get down first and these people fucked them.

They try to run and then they fall down. They sprint straight down and then it's that you know you're gonna fall. And so they just try and figure out how they're gonna be able to spring back up after they're rolling and falling and smashing all their limbs. It's crazy. It's crazy. I've never even heard of this. One of the champions is this woman. She just broke her collarbone one time and this, another dude just ankle turned the other way. She's fearless. It's just, you haven't seen this? No.

You gotta pull this up if you can. No, it hasn't even been... Look up, she's rolling. You said it's Netflix. She's rolling. Yes, yeah. I'm actually, I'm a big fan of it now. I want to pay attention to what's going on.

Yeah, it really does highlight just the strangeness of human psychology, right? Right. Because it's like for what? Yeah, for what? Yeah, what's the end result? You know what you're gonna, you get like some kind of status in the town. You will first you win the cheese.

Well you win the cheese. Yeah. You get a picture. You get a picture with the cheese. You might get a plaque. They hold up, you gotta see this video. It's the most insane thing I've ever seen. Have you seen this dug before?

Yeah. I haven't. This is new to you too. And there's a few on. Doug and I obviously watched the same type of stuff on them but to get recommended the same stuff thing. Have you seen this dog before? Yeah. I haven't. This is new to you. There's a few. I obviously watched the same type of stuff on that one to get recommended the same stuff that you guys get different shit. We definitely get some things. Okay, watch them. Watch them. Watch them go down. This is crazy. Watch. So they take off and yeah, it doesn't look crazy and slow.

Oh, no, here we go. They start getting into the rolling part. Yeah. Yeah. Watch this. start getting into the rolling part. Yeah. Yeah. Watch this. Yeah. What? Oh, yeah. Look, look.

Oh, we're about to go over. Wait a minute. Wait. Oh, my God. That's my leg. Blown ACL right there. Oh, bro. And then that's it.

They just, and I mean, they're falling, dude. They never have an event where somebody doesn't end up having to go to the hospital. Yeah. Look at this. I mean, blasting their head, breaking shoulders and ankles. Rists, dude. It's just damaging, you know? That's the contest. It's just like, yeah, it's like an onslaught. How long is it, Justin? Is it like a pretty long hill? It's a big ass hill. I mean, they're still going. I can tip a lot. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's a pretty tall, tall hill.

And it's now, once you do this one time You win you don't have to keep doing it like multiple times in a day or what you win But that girl right there that that chick right there that's flipping over and hit her head on the floor Yeah, she won three times I think three or four times in a row So she's like one of the world and there's a stark difference between like the people that you know I'm just gonna kind of do this versus the one that's just like, I'm adamant. Yeah, I'm here to win.

I'm here to win. Yeah, this is a hill that I wouldn't want to go up. Oh my God, look at it. It's insane, man. Like, I don't know. I was watching that just completely and off. Yeah, it's interesting these cultural competitions in these towns that are,

this is not so proud of you. Yeah, they're not making tons of money, it's just, it's like that one competition in Italy where it's basically, you're trying to get the ball in the goal, but you can stop the other people anyway you want. Yeah, you can punch kick or smash. You can do basically anything to it. Body slam, whatever you want. Yeah, it's like that. So there's a few, there's a few of these on there

that are like really random and crazy. The other one was like a chili eating competition. Oh, I saw that one. Yeah. And dude, this guy is like evil. The one that's like genetically breeding, like the, the, you know, as far as it being the spiciest one in the world, he's now making new

ones that are bigger and even more spicy and the heat rating is like insane. It goes from like a couple hundred, whatever, BTM or whatever, like the heat map is of that to like, two million, you know. And so, like if you have a hot pepper and you eat a hot pepper, it's really spicy. Yeah. Imagine something that's hundreds of thousands of times to do the spicy food. What's the second to do to your insides?

You know, like, oh. Well, that's what I'm wondering. Get it out. That's what I'm wondering, because when you watch the competition, these people are just crying, they're, ugh, you can tell they're in tremendous pain. What happens when they take a shit later?

Yeah, yeah. You still gotta go through that. It burns the second way. Yeah, right? Really bad. Like, when we go to, if we go to a restaurant and we have spicy food and it's spicy, I know later this is gonna be a damp toilet paper, you know what I mean?

Cause you're gonna be putting things on fire. Yeah, it's just like the whole time you're just torturing yourself. It's just interesting, you know, but I get it on some level. A lot of them used to have like a background of like at addiction, you know, maybe it was like alcoholism or drugs or something and then they kind of

fueled that into like a chili eating obsession. Yeah, which is strange. Speaking of videos, would you guys think of that video that Joe Rogan posted? Someone else made it. I gotta see who made that, the one with the politicians. Oh yeah. Just showing their blatant hypocrisy.

Oh yeah. Oh my God. I'm glad somebody finally put something simple. I'm so over it. You know, I swear it's like a... That is going viral. Everybody's sharing it. Right.

So, I feel like... Oh, it's Joey B. Toons. Joey B. Toons is, I guess the guy that made that. Who is that? Is he community? I have no idea. You know, there's it I what do you guys see in your family right now like as far as like the whole like I feel like it's

died off big time right to it reminds me no it reminds me of the I'm not just politics in general right now right cuz that's become so political I feel like it reminds me like I was talking about how it's sports for nerds and if you have like a super bowl at my house, there'll be 10 people there. There'll be two fanatics. There'll be four people that are like into it all the time. They're into it and they're all about it, but then they're not like as crazy as the two fanatics.

And then there's like four people that are just like here because it's super bowl and whatever. I feel the same like percentage of people with politics. Like at my Thanksgiving table or when I look at my group or my family, there's always like two of people with politics. Like at my Thanksgiving table, or when I look at my group or my family, there's always like two radical people that are still talking about the election fraud and how all this bullshit and we're gonna have civil war

and it's all craziness. Like, right. And then you have everybody else that are just like, they're over it. I feel like everybody is over talking about it now, except for my like radical left, radical right side. Well, this, so this video highlights these politicians who are enacting some of the harshest and strictest

lockdowns. I know, but aren't you overall the government? Aren't you guys overall this? Oh, no, I am. I'm so over it. But the part that, the part that, here's the deal, if they're telling you that they're gonna find you for being open, if they tell you that you're gonna get a ticket for not wearing out your water off. They're gonna shut your water and electricity off and they're doing it and then they get caught on video doing the exact I know but pure hypocrisy, but let's be honest though. Did you guys I mean you guys know what a pain the ass

It is to like mask up every fucking minute anyways, right exactly so reasonable Exactly it's unreasonable and so when they came out with all that stuff at the very beginning, you can't tell me that you guys all didn't think right, like, yeah, right. Like you're really going to be taking between bites, dropping your mask, and then putting back on like, why even say it? Exactly. And that's the thing. And I'm sorry, but if you're an elected representative and leader, you're not a ruler, by the way,

I want to remind all the politicians in America, we don't have rulers, so stop acting like that. But if you're a representative, I don't know. And yeah, I was going to say, we put this person in the picture. You imagine it, I said, Jesus, Steve. I'm more mad at everybody else. I'm like, come on, we voted for this guy. But think about this way.

Think about back when you manage gyms. Okay, one of the more difficult things that I used to have to communicate to my staff was cleaning equipment. Because when you're a trainer, when you're a salesperson, you don't necessarily think your job is to wipe equipment down.

You remember the conversations we would have? Of course. So as a leader, what would you always do in order to encourage other people to do it? Right. You go out. And by example. You go out and you wipe the equipment down. You don't just tell people what to do.

Yeah, I imagine if you told your staff what to do, then you went out and sweat all over a piece of equipment with no talent walked over. Well, again, to me it just highlights that it was a political thing and it's always been that. It's always been a political thing. And people that think it's, oh no, it's about health and safety, like no, it's not.

No, it's not. It's a political move that people are doing and they get up there on stage and they wear it all the time and then when they get home, it'll give a shit. If they really cared, it would not. It's a political move that people are doing and they get up there on stage and they wear it all the time. And then when they get home, they'll give a shit. If they really cared, it would be 100% consistent. Yeah, I don't know if it's political as much as it just highlights that that politicians and people who seek power

are the very people you don't want in power. That's what I think. I think you've got a high level of narcissism and a little bit of psychopath if you seek out that position. And then when you get it, you're like, you think you're a king. Oh, rules for you, but not for me. I'm so over all this conversation.

I'm so, I'm playing it out. It is. And you know, are we, we're spiking right now, aren't we? Are we at like record highs right now, aren't we? Oh, I think it's spiking right now. Yeah, you don't even know. I wonder about that too, because I know like right now it's cold and flu season.

Like, that just kind of picked up on top of it. How many people are getting tested, you know, like, thinking they have COVID on them? I don't know. I know it's going up, and I mean, I'm not saying it's, I think it's a real thing. I'm not saying, I'm just saying that I wonder, like, how the hysteria of, because if, like, you start feeling get the snivels, like, how many people are going to be like, oh, my God. Yeah, yeah. What was that one me in my share?

It's like 2019, you cough to hide a fart. 2020, you fart to hide a cough. Exactly, exactly. That's the new feeling that's out there. Who do you think would win the Civil War, by the way? If we had a Civil War, who? Definitely not Antifa. I don't know, dude, you got Vegas bets. I know who it in I know you got the well I told you so here's the thing though. I mean the the the left has got the

We got the tech company. They have the tech company, but we have Elon Musk the right has Elon Musk That's right. And Elon Musk is kind of I don't know man I feel like he did he built some cyborgs or something. something. I feel like he's enough to nullify the other guys. You think so? Yeah, at least that. And then it's really down just to the people. Maybe you fool Skyne, though. One side knows how to shoot a guy on the other side.

Doesn't say what to what a mobs does not. What's your woke robots taking me out? No. No, I'm all joking aside, no civil war please. Yeah. Let's not do that. Let's work together. Hey, so I wanted to give some shout outs

to some of our top mind-pump listeners. Oh, did you see the Spotify stuff? I shared that. Yeah, I shared that yesterday. So you guys have been getting some pretty crazy ones. Right. I mean, they just keep coming in, like right when I think that I was like,

oh my God, I can't believe this person. It was like 35. I saw 56,000 something minutes. What is that now, what is that now, what is that now, 56,000 in some change? I'll just say 56,000 because it was over that. I don't know, carry the one. Yeah.

You like, come on, give me that. That's at 933 hours. Wow. 933 hours of mind pump. So that's a lot of days of listening to. I mean, that's like, that means consistently every day you're listening to a minimum of two to three episodes every day, every day for a long time. Yeah, I shared one where this guy

because then they also will list apparently Spotify will tell you how many hours you've listened to a podcast and then they'll tell you the most episodes you've listened to in a day. So I have a guy that listened to 21 episodes in one day. Is that possible? In one day. I mean, technically, I don't know if you listened to the whole episode, but he listened to 21 in a day.

His name, his Instagram is from You Got to V Cut. Actually, he's got a pretty amazing transformation. Listen, if you're listening right now, dude, that did that, send me another message. We'd like to send you some free shit. Yeah, I think we're going to hook up like the top. Let's wait until everybody, let's wait until they all come in, right? Yeah. Well, I don't know who's going to beat this guy who did got 56,000. Yeah, that's the one. Yeah, minutes. That's James Niver. I think if I pronounce in his name, right? But yeah, dude, that was seriously impressive. Yeah. And then

to the people that posted their top podcast and we came in second or third, we're not gonna give a shout out. Yeah. Yeah. We're not number one there. Yeah. Yeah, no, no, no.

Starfician coffee, 44, I saw hers. That was like 35,000 starfician coffee. They go together. It's a big combo. Yeah, usually it's coffee then starfician. Yeah. Yeah. Speaking of coffee, my son, so the other morning we were eating breakfast. By the way, he's crushing the magic spoon.

Now he's having it all the time. Oh, there was a little resistance in the beginning. That's my fault. Oh, I see. Because I sold it. You sold it healthy. Yeah, he's a teenager, dude. So if I say do something, he's going to not do it.

And what I should have done, Jessica always hammers me on this. She goes, you are not subtle. Like, because I'll get like, I'll get like a new bread, but it's like healthier, whatever. And I'll be like, hey guys, you guys wanna try some with this bread and Jessica will like, dude, you're an idiot. Like you're making it too obvious, put it in the fridge. Yeah, just leave it there.

Yeah, and I'm not sure. Sooner or later, he'll want a peanut butter jelly sandwich. Yeah, and he'll eat it. And then without knowing, he's eating the healthier bread or whatever. Anyway, so now, he's eating the healthier bread or whatever. Anyway, so now he's finally eating the magic spoon every single morning. Totally loves it.

But we were talking about coffee. And he's like, what age did you start to drink coffee? I'm like, oh man, I said, like, how's it my 20s, I think? I started drinking coffee. He goes, yeah, I have this friend in school that drinks espresso throughout the day, it's another 15 year old. And he goes, am I ever gonna like the taste

of those types of things? He's like coffee tastes disgusting. So we're talking about how your taste buds start to develop. Yeah, whatever. He's like, I like coffee ice cream. Like, I guess you could put a bunch of sugar in it. You know, like it.

But we had the whole conversation about coffee and he's a pretty self-aware kid. And he goes, you know, it goes, it's weird, he goes, isn't caffeine a drug? He goes, I read that so many thousands of people go to a hospital every year from too much caffeine. He goes, why don't we treat it? Could he be more your son? Could he be more your son on all that?

It's like I would refer to here, I had a tear come down. Yeah. My kid just, that's right, that's correct. Oh, I don't feel good. It's not gonna be my kid. What, why don't feel good. Yeah, I'm gonna be my kid. Yeah. Yeah. Why did this happen?

Tell me why I have the shits. Why did you drink all of my coffee at once? You just gonna take sips. Yeah. Why are you adding cheese to your coffee? Yeah. It burned my throat. No, he's, no.

So he's like, why do we, he goes, why is coffee treated differently than, uh, than other substances? He goes, kids can get it. He goes, I say, everybody drinks it. I say, I don't get it, because I say everybody drinks it, I say, I don't get it. I said, well, that's welcome to the inconsistencies of how we treat things in the world. Oh, wow.

It was a good conversation. Do you guys remember when you first heard Drink Coffee? I do. It was when I was working as a server. And it was because I just kept going to work, like, basically hung over. This is in college, so I was like, coming to work, just like, just mess. And the manager there was just like, oh my God,

like I'm about to send you home here. And he, like, makes me start drinking coffee. And, you know, at first I didn't like it because I was just drinking it black and then I started to kind of put cream a lot. And then it was like, oh my God, like I had all this like crazy, like it worked right away. I had all this energy, and I was addicted immediately.

Yeah, I was like an older you at that point. I was probably 20, like on the dot. Oh, so I was the youngest in, huh? I was 15. When you were drinking coffee, coffee wasn't even popular back then. So what I, so what we get out of it. I remember I used to milk cows in the morning before school, 3.34 o'clock in the morning.

Oh wow. So at like four o'clock in the morning, I'd stop by 7.11 before I headed over to the dairy. You felt like a big man, didn't you? Well no. And somebody tell you to do that or did you just think of getting coffee? So I mean, I just thought, I mean one,

I would. Did you squirt them right into the coffee? No, 7.11, if you guys go to 7.11, 7.11 has that like, cappuccino espresso machine, and it's like chocolate, like mocha coffee. It was very, I mean, now I would be like, oh, it's so sweet. I had to start with that, right?

So like black coffee was not happening at all, but I, like you, I had tasted it before my grandmother used to have it all the time, and I remember having it, and I felt the energy from it. And then all it took was a morning of not having it and working compared to a morning of having it and where I'm going like, oh, why?

Oh, yeah, because by the time I finished half the cup before I got to the actual job site, I was like ready to work. Whereas, you know, a normal high school kid who's getting up that early the morning to go, I mean, I was like, drag and ask for like the first three hours. Now, my first experience with coffee was when we went to, we went to visit family in Italy.

So I'm 12 years old and what everybody used to sit, they would drink espresso and then, and they'd smoke cigarettes. And me and my cousin, he was a little older than me. He was a bit of a bad influencer, whatever. When they would put out their cigarettes, they throw them on the floor. And him and I would wait for them to go inside and we pick up the cigarettes and smoke the rest. And then we drink the leftover coffee.

So I did that. I know everybody's coffee. Discussing. But anyway, I did that and I remember just I had all this insane energy and then I felt dizzy and sick from the combination of the two. And that was it. I never touched it again. I did energy supplements.

That's I didn't do coffee for a long time. I did all the energy supplements. Did you do jokola? I did jokola as a kid, but I went hardcore, dude. You gotta remember, I was probably 16. I bought a chemistry book, and I was trying to study the breakdown of caffeine. Then I learned about a fedra.

Then I learned that you could add aspirin, Yo, himbie. Yo, himbie, then sinifrin. You and all it, no. I actually did, I mixed it all together, and I went to the gym, I did like a two and a half hour, three hour workout, came home, and didn't fall asleep till 4am,

heart beating out of my chest, I thought I was gonna die. And I swore off all energy supplements, and that lasted another month, and then I went back on it. Start messing with. That's a true story. I mean, I think that's why I like speed stacks so much as I had already been drinking coffee as a teenage boy. She had to graduate. Yeah. I mean, then I got into the fitness world at 20 and somebody introduced me to speed stacks, which are like three cups of coffee or four cups of coffee plus a fedra in it.

And it was like, oh wow. This is like on another level. Lightning mode. Yeah, so I never, I don't remember, I mean, it didn't get to about, I don't know, probably close to late 20s before. I like really liked the taste of coffee. It was always about how I felt.

I mean, the minute, when I could compare a morning of coffee and working to a morning and not, it was like, oh, there's no Starbucks. You know, like, like, they actually made coffee, like, somewhat, like, you could drink it, you know, like, it was like, it tasted good. They add all these extra things. So it's interesting now to see all these kids getting started so early, because it's, it's a different animal. It used to just be like you said, coffee in cigarettes. When I was a kid, coffee was disgusting. And I smelled it on my teacher's breath.

It was gross. So yeah, brown like teeth. Anybody that you guys read or read what how much that industry has grown over the last two decades or three decades? I haven't, but I can look it up. I bet that's crazy. I bet.

Yeah, because you guys, when I was a kid, it was like, folders and like, yeah. I mean, hold on, what is folders, by the way? It's a brand. No, I know that, but it's like freeze dried coffee, or what is that? It's powdered, it's like a scoop and you throw it in. I don't know, it's the best part of waking up.

Yeah, my grandma still drinks it. You know what, Salari? She drinks folders still. Yeah, dude, she's 98 and has been drinking ever since I've known her. And basically, I, I was like, oh, she loves coffee, just in general, I thought, right? And so I bought her a whole Starbucks Christmas thing

and all this and I come to find out later she threw it in the garbage because she only likes folders. Yeah. I was so offended. Yeah. Like you like this shit? Well, did you guys know that Starbucks actually burns their coffee?

So it's not even good coffee. So it's consistent. Yeah, so it's consistent, right? Because depending on when you've got the beans and time and where, where, and, you know, in the world, you got to, it will make the taste different. And so to make Starbucks consistent, they burn them all to a certain level.

And so it'll taste the same. I always like the flavor of pizza way better. Pizza's way better. Yeah, but I gotta give credit to Starbucks. Their Nitro, full of wins. Is legit. It's really, really good. But that's it, everything else.

I know, my first is crap. Yeah, no, Italians have been having, been drinking gourmet, you know, whatever you call it, coffee forever. That's been a thing forever over there. Yeah, coffee and cigarettes. You always, you go by shops and see that. I mean, there's a lot of places dedicated to just that.

You go there and all you can get is like a coffee and like a baguette or some shit. Yeah, you know what they have? They don't even have chairs and a lot of them. It's a tall skinny bar and you get your espresso, you stand at the bar, you drink your espresso and you get out. What does that say?

Yeah, what you got from here, Doug. These are percentages of adults in the US drinking specialty coffee from 2001 to 2017. People drinking daily went up from 14% to 41%. Oh my God. Fourx. Wow. 41% drink it daily.

What's the average, what would you guys estimate is the average cost of a Starbucks specialty coffee. Specialty coffee? Yeah, like not just drip, but like to say you get a, let me get a mug. Yeah, $3.54 or something. $4 a day. Yeah.

So every single day, what does that come out? How much? 120 bucks a month. You know, you could, you could do some stuff with 120 bucks a month if you wanted to. You could invest that and you could, and I sound like what does that sound? Little things.

That a lot of shit you get. Chump change now. You can almost buy a pair of sneakers. But it's one of those things, it's one of those things though, you're a family of friends that talk about money trouble and they'll like, they drink coffee every day. They smoke cigarettes.

Well, they're the same ones that get the new game console and all, you know, the flat-screen TV, but I, you know, I'm hurting right now. Yeah, this is a conversation Jessica and I have because she grew up, you know, very differently than I did. And she says that in her experience, a lot of the times, people with money issues isn't necessarily because they have trouble making money, but rather they don't know how to manage the energy. No, there's a statistic on this.

I can't remember what it was, but no matter how much money you make, if you have bad money behaviors at 20 grand a year, you make one for you a year, it doesn't change. You're just as broke. I mean, I remember that with myself. I mean, that was in my teens, the early 20s, I remember, you know, every year working hard

and making a little more money, a little more money, and it took about five or six years, I think consistently of doing that, when I finally like reflected on like, fuck, my lifestyle doesn't change that much. You know, so you go to a fancier restaurant, right? Like an expensive dinner in my, you know my early 20s was a $100 dinner. Well, that becomes a $300 dinner, or the car you drive,

you'd spend 20 grand on. Well, now you spend 60 grand on it. Like as far as like your normal stuff, it all stays about the same if you have those same behavior. So it doesn't really change just because you make more money. It's pretty fascinating. Yeah, it's actually a skill. It really is.

It's like, we talk a lot on the podcast about having a good relationship to exercise and nutrition. And that will stay with you no matter what, right? So even if you don't have equipment, for example, if you have a good relationship with activity, you'll make time for it, you'll take care of your body. It's priority. Same thing with nutrition. There are skills and relationships that we also have with money. And in my experience of people, I know my family and friends that have issues with money. As soon as they have it, they tend to spend it. And to them, they think, well, what's the big...

This is... I've actually had family members tell this, like, I'll say, well, you know, you can easily save $300 a month doing this. Like, $300 a month, what's that worth? Who cares, it's not a big deal. Like, well, that's the attitude that gets you where you're at. Now, how do you guys manage the balance?

Because I think there's also the extreme on the other side, right? So you have somebody who doesn't spend anything as saving for the end of life, for retirement, or what about that, and then they have. I think there's periods or seasons or whatever, like where you should really consider having a more of a strict goal and then at least having that foundation established.

So then you can start spending a bit more of what you've acquired. But I think there's just periods of life where you do have to buckle down. And I think it's important to do that. Yeah, and I think that where the root is, because you're right, Adam, because you could go in the other direction

where you're so fearful that, you know, you hold on to every pinch, every single penny, and you're just as in half. You gotta make it worse, you're time. That's the thing. I think the healthy aspect of it comes from really knowing what you truly value, you know, just like with food, right?

Or with anything else, like, is this truly bringing me value, or am I just like with food, right? Or with anything else, like, is this truly bringing me value or am I just self-medicating with this? Or is it about other people, right? Or am I buying this so I could show other people? Exactly, is it really for myself, right? Exactly, and I tell you, every spiritual practice, every major spiritual practice,

practice is some form of detachment, some form of minimalism, and I think Elon must did this. Didn't he sell all his houses? And he says it makes him feel more free and more of that. Yeah, and this was one of those weird things. I would get in conversation with some of my, you know, family members who are super religious and like have a different perspective of like people

that have wealth and have acquired riches and things. It's not that, like that's not the root of evil. It's really what you do with it. It's your behaviors around it. It's about establishing boundaries and using it and shuttling it towards things that are high on your value. How much thought do you guys put into this?

Do you really, monthly do you have rules that you set yourself with? I mean, like, so I, if, and we're talking about very vague things by saying value in this now, but like, do you give yourself, like, if things are tight, then I can, then I'll definitely have a budget and I'll be very strict. If things are not tight, then the way that I operate is more of, uh, is this something that really brings me value?

Um, do really need this. And that seems to work really well for me. I mean, as a kid, I lived with my parents. I was in 18, 19, managing gyms. I was making a lot of money back in those days. And even then I would have those conversations with myself. Like, do I really, is this really gonna bring me a ton of out? I remember at one point, I wanted to buy a one year-used Lotus.

Remember the Lotus Esprit I think it was? Remember I was 19 years old, I was making six figures, I had no bills. It would have been easy for me to buy the sick-ass car. All right, right. You know, drive around cool now, you know, chicks or whatever. I could just so see you in the Lotus.

Yeah. Of course that's the car. Ah, ah, ah. It's like yellow sunglasses. Yes, dude. Yes, with a tank top and shit. Me's like yellow sunglasses. Yes, yes. It would take top and ship. It was yellow.

Meered glasses. It was at the Los Gatos dealership. You know the one that they have all day. Yeah, exactly. So I thought about it and I said, oh, I could totally get that. And then I remember I had this thought, like I was at my room at night and I thought,

am I really going to value this? Like, do I really care about this? And for me, I really didn't, so I ended up not doing it. I think that's a good way to operate unless things get tight. And I've been in situations where things get tight. Then when they get tight, then I say, here's my budget for food, here's my budget for gym, here's my budget for leisure, and then I get very, very strict. Like diet, like if I'm trying to get shredded

for a photo shoot, I'll start to track, but if I'm just trying to live a healthy life, then I kind of just follow these kind of guidelines. Yeah, I've always kind of tried, well, I always have lived within my means in terms of spending only what I actually have, and I'm not like going outside of that, but the value has changed over the years.

I mean, yeah, when I was younger, a lot of it was a bit driven by ego and by trying to kind of show off or like where I was in terms of like a status thing. But, you know, over the years, that's definitely not been the case. It's been more about, you know, family focused and like, how can I now sort of like foster

a better environment for the family? And like, a lot I now sort of like foster a better environment for the family? And like, a lot of that revolves around space right now. So we're saving, you know, to try and increase the, just the square footage of where we are, right? To, to benefit just our lifestyle and interactions with each other. Yeah. You know what, what about you, Doug? Doug, you tend to be the, one of the, the best with money and you don't spend a lot of, very smart. What is your, I mean, are you a total miser about Doug? Doug, you seem to be one of the best with money and you don't spend a lot of money. It's very smart. What is your, I mean, are you a total miser about it? Like, I know you buy things like your tech stuff, like you buy a nice camera that costs a fortune.

Drones and everything. Yeah. And then there's those platinum teeth you bought. Yeah. I buy what I want. Yeah. Typically, however, you know, for example, like a new car, I would like a new car, but I won't buy it if I don't feel like it's really justified. So I'll drive a car for a very long time,

even if I can afford one. You know, that's kind of basic principle, pay yourself first. So I probably carve off around 20, 25% of everything I make and I put it away in investments so that I'm paying myself first and have something built in behind the scenes. It's a good practice, you know, it really is. You know what I'm realizing now is I getting older, I find a lot of value in paying for more time. So what I mean by that is the way

I was raised with my family, remember my parents are immigrants, and they came from very, very humble poor beginnings, and for them, it's strange to hire anybody to do something you can do for yourself. My dad would never hire a gardener. To him, he would be like, why would I do that when I do that? Why would I hire someone when I can do that?

My mom would never hire someone to clean her house, or to cater a party, because she could do it all herself. For me, and I grew up that way, thinking that way, and then I had this huge shift where I'm like, you know, the time that I could spend doing the time I spend doing this particular thing, I can be, I can have way more value out of that time if I hire someone and pay them. And let's say I want wanna make money during that time.

I can earn more than I spend on that person, or that's the time that I can spend on my family or developing my, you know, doing personal development or skills. So that's something that I'm, that's like really easy for me to spend money on, is to provide, give myself more time. More, that's way more valuable than things.

Like buying things, I don't really care about that, but buying time, I think that's, for me at least That's super valuable Today's calls brought to you by Max and a ballic if you're looking to maximize your overall muscle and strength Max and the ballic is the perfect place to. With a full 30-day money back guarantee, there is absolutely zero risk. So what is your waiting for? Go to mypromidia.com and get started today!

It's the ball of fucking four! An eagle has landed! Quee-qua- First question is from Mark Orreli Duval. What are the benefits of sumo deadlift over regular deadlift? You know, the thing about those two exercises is, I blame powerlifting for this. Powerlifting competition treats both the same. They're so different. They're very, they're two different exercises. But if you're in a powerlifting competition and it's time to do a deadlift,

you have the choice of pulling sumo or pulling deadlift. So because of that, and because deadlift really gained most of its popularity through power lifting, and then only later became a big deal for developing muscle, strengthening the body, improving mobility and functional strength and all that wonderful stuff, because its roots were in power lifting, people started to think that they were interchangeable. They're different exercises. Yes, both posterior chain dominant. There's a lot more hip involvement in sumo deadlift.

The positioning's totally different. There's more back involvement with a regular deadlift. I think you should treat them like different exercises. Now, does this mean you should do both? I don't necessarily think you have to do both. I do both every once in a while because I think they're both very valuable. But, and you'll find one will probably suit you

more tall, lanky people like the regular more than the shorter people tend to like, and females tend to do better with sumo, but the benefits, I mean, more hip involvement, more adductor, these are the inner thigh involvement, less potential stress on the low back, so some people who think it's a safer type of deadlift, although I can argue, it can be just as dangerous, but yeah, totally different exercises. If you're trying to build your butt and you're not doing sumo deadlift, you're missing

out, it was one of the staple exercises that I would teach to somebody that was wanting to, and the reason why I think it's such a great exercise for that is because very few people move laterally or exercise that way and get your glute meat involved. And the sumo, because you're in this wide open stance and the knees are forced out and your feet are externally rotated, the glute meat is really turned on in that exercise. And there's just not a lot of stationary exercises that you are, that's really lit up.

Especially not with heavy loads. Right, especially with heavy loads. And to simplify that for a person is like's the sidebutt. That's what gives you that look from the side or the heart shape of a butt. So if you're trying to develop a butt, and you don't do sumo deadlift, I think it's the single one of the single best exercises besides maybe like a hip thrust that you can be doing to build your glutes. I also think that it's good for corrective stuff. So very, very common that I would see people, their knees cave in when they squat or feet pronating.

And yes, that has a lot to do with the feet, but a lot of times because the feet pronate, the knees cave in, the glute mead turns off. So teaching that for corrective purposes, I see tons of value in that also. So if you wanna build a butt, you also want to deal, if you've got somebody who has got knees caving in or feet pronating, training them in a sumo

and teaching them to open their knees out, is a great, great movement for corrective reasons too. And it's a different exercise like Sal saying, it's more hip, less back, and then your conventional is the opposite. Yeah, you know, did you guys ever pull Sumo for a long period of time? Is that ever?

It took a while to start messing around with that. And then you start to figure out like based on sort of your preference what works best in for Sumo for me, actually. I would probably serve me better. Really? Yeah, to do Sumo just because of the leverage in the way that my-

I guess, I guess that's, I don't know like but yeah like I've definitely messed around with with clients to see you know which one that they preferred and which one they had better leverage. That's how I first had left it yeah that's how I first learned how to deadlift with sumo it's the first time I pulled three plates with sumo as a kid and then I switched to conventional I just felt so much more natural yeah and I pulled that way ever since. I switched to conventional. I just felt so much more natural. Yeah. And I pulled that way ever since. I mean, to me, that's the bad part of this.

And you pointed that out early on when we first heard this conversation is that I think people look at it like, oh, I do one or the other. I'm better at sumo, so I do sumo, or I'm better at conventional. When really, they're very different exercises that both belong in your routine. So whoever is listening, if you assume all the time,

you absolutely should incorporate conventional, and if you're somebody who always conventional, you absolutely should incorporate. It's the same way I look at squats too. Like there's multiple versions of squats, and they're all beneficial in different aspects of it. And so that's why I do try to squat with a narrow stance, with a wide stance, so externally rotated.

And even the loading of the squat, I change it up quite a bit. So this is just another way that you can acquire other types of benefits from a deadlift. Next question is from Jay Empke. What are some of your go-to recovery methods for when you've been over training or over reaching? We talk about that all the time, right? How we still do that. Yeah, you know what I, you know what I, Well, worst to, you know, like we're good at training people, but not ourselves at the time.

Yeah, because you're always pushing it, right? Especially if you're performance oriented. I'm having a lot of interesting results from using the red light, the Juve. I mean, using that daily, now. That's my recovery. That's my recovery, yeah. Yeah, so you know what I did is,

so I have the big panel and I built like a shelf for it and put it up on the wall, mainly for Jessica, right? She had a C-section and it helps with wound healing and it also helps with skin. So for things like stretch marks and that kind of stuff. Now she's got, I Now, her skin is incredible and maybe it's because she's been using the Juve the whole time and church and edict's play role. But now I have it up on the wall and what I do when I have time, and it's typically about four days a week, is I'll finish my workout and then I'll go stand in front

of the red light and I'll spend about anywhere between 10 to 20 minutes in front of it. And I've been doing it long enough now to notice a bit of an interesting difference. I do notice that I recover faster, and I can push harder in my workouts. It's probably been, I wanna say, about two months now of doing it relatively consistently. And it's noticeable, it's noticeable.

Well, it's interesting, because I remember when we went to PaleoFacts the second time, like I talked to the CEOs from Juve, and that was one of the big things I was trying to promote was the muscle recovery aspect of it, and they did all these clinical studies with it that had proved that there was some value there with it. And I remember Mercolo was going through the time

and was very like, you know, insistent that they they proved these benefits. And and so they went through this long process with him and actually like had, you know, great results come out of their studies. Well, I tested it myself. I mean, I don't know if you got I think it was Mercolo who I heard say this and I thought, Oh, that's a cool way to test this because it's like, how do you know? Right? How do you know for sure it was that or her, or maybe her gin ex or whatever. Like, so there's things like, well,

I mean, this is how I tested it. Go and squat, overreach intentionally, and then only Juve one leg. Juve one leg, keep the other one completely, so weird. And then, so you did that? Yes. And you could totally tell it to,

I could totally tell to everyone. I felt, I mean, I'll never do it again, you know what I'm saying? Because I felt like so and then so you did that yes and what and totally tell it I could totally tell it I felt I mean, I'll never do it again. You know, I'm saying because I felt like soreness Yeah, like the next the next two days the the leg that wasn't so weird. Yeah, I can feel it So that to me that was enough like I was like okay, I'm sold so that so for the listeners You can look it up. You can look up Actually jubes website j o o vv.com And you can forward slash that mine pump. If you go on their site they publish Actually, jubes website, j-o-o-v-v.com, and you can forward slash that mind pump.

But if you go on their site, they publish, they don't publish, but they republish all the study. And this red light's been studied for a long time. And essentially what it does is this wavelength of light promotes the production of ATP in the mitochondria of your cells. This is very important for longevity. I mean, basically all of the functions of the body

are fueled by the mitochondria and are fueled by the ATP production of the mitochondria. And so this boosts that. So essentially, it's like turbocharging this energy production. So this is why skin looks like it's younger, less wrinkles, hair regrowth happens, all proven again by studies,

and recovery, pain, that kind of stuff. So it is very interesting. Now, now that we've got that covered, and that was just because I've found that interesting right now, the single best thing you can do for recovery, there's two things that by far will crush anything else. That's out there. Yes. It's mobility-based recovery or active recovery?

So your sore, you feel tired, go out and do stretching, go out and do some mobility, go out and do some light yoga, like that kind of stuff makes a big difference. And then the second one is if you're really overreached, is sleep, sleep is the best. There's nothing that'll beat that. Yeah, too, I think that a lot of times it's overlooked in our

prime program, the for vacation sessions. And I think too that the cool down. So so people who like, you know, experience lefters kind of know, like they talk about the warm up, they talk about the cool down and that sort of became a thing of the past. And we've sort of flipped a script on how you would warm up and in prime instead for more effective methods for your workout.

Same thing with the cool down process too. So to be able to get your body in that parasympathetic state and get there a bit sooner, like going through that process of going through these poses and really trying to reinforce these mobility in your joints and everything else and allow your body to calm down. It is a vital process to then be able to recover going into the next workout. Next question is from Jin, Alexandra, from training clients in advanced age, what did you learn about what long-term habits are essential for lifetime

health? I really like this question because at least for me, this is how this all started to come together. I talk about how when I first started training, I'd scoff at clients that said they walk every day and be like, it's not exercise. But after you train enough older, healthy people, like you get clients, and I would get that, right? Obviously, we deal more with people that are obese, and issues and so on that,

but I also trained a lot of pretty damn healthy, 65, 70 year olds, and you start to piece together some common things that behaviors that they do. The first one that comes to mind, and that's why I talk about the walking thing so much, was that it was almost every advanced age client that I train had some sort of a daily practice

that was not like crazy strenuous, that it wasn't like a hardcore workout. It was like, I walk three miles every day. They're just active. They just, I've started that when I was 20, and I never stomped, and they do it every every single day or they had little things like parking further away and the when they go grocery shopping or you know they loved to garden and they they know that they're moving and staying active and so they had just built these these habits into their

life that kept them in good shapes. Now they weren't in muscular shape. They didn't have a bunch. They weren't super strong on the gym. That was why they were hiring me. They were aware enough to know that. But what I noticed is like, if you looked at them and compared them to the average person that was 65 or 70 years old, they looked incredible.

And it was from their good habits that they had created. And that was one of the biggest ones that stood out to me. I observed exactly the same thing, daily activity, whether it's riding the bike every day or walking every day, swimming every day. It was some type of activity that they did every single day. And it was a leisure activity. Like you said Adam, it's not like they went for a hard run.

Right. But it was like, oh yeah, every day my husband and I go for a one hour walk. Every day. No, no, no, no. How long have you been doing this? Oh, I don't know, 30 years. You know, something like that.

So daily activity, that was one. Here's the second one that I noticed is that they all didn't overeat. It's a very general one, right? So the diets can be very different. Good relationship with food. Yeah, they just didn't overeat. Like, I'm many, many times, they would invite me

over for dinner at their house, or we'd go to a restaurant. And I would notice that when I'd look at their plate, it was appropriate. They just wouldn't fill it up with tons of food. I remember one time I went to a restaurant with there were these two women that I trained, both of them in their 70s.

They were both really good friends. I trained them separately, but they were both my clients clients and they knew each other. And we went to lunch and we would go to lunch here and there. So maybe 10 times I went to lunch with them. And each time what they would do is they would order a plate and split it. And it was appropriate amount of food, by the way.

Most restaurants in America, one plate is actually enough for two people. And so they would get a burger and then they cut it in half or they'd get this big salad and they'd ask for two plates and they'd cut it in half. And they would just appropriate levels of food. They just didn't overeat.

That was the biggest thing I saw in common. Yeah, I think, and definitely I saw what you guys saw, but also to like, there's a social element there that I noticed that they would still interact whether it was family or was friends, it was some kind of community that they were a part of. And along with that, which I thought a few of my clients that were in advanced age that I felt like

we're thriving the most, would challenge themselves like every so often, every few months, they would pick up a new hobby, they would do something where they would like learn how to paint landscapes or you know, like ballroom dancing or something that's like going to challenge them mentally or physically in some way that just helps keep them stimulated and you know excited to kind of learn something new. No, that's really good.

They all, not that I think about about it all of them belonged to groups The widows that I trained who were in their late 70s and 80s They did things like they would play bridge. They'd have these bridge groups One woman her husband passed away So she would do she would be on these dating apps and go out dates with man And she had a very social life and the studies actually support that. It's a very, very important part of longevity. Next question is from Grant Lee. How would you recommend starting a career

as a trainer right now with the COVID situation? Maybe, maybe the single hardest thing to do right now? I got it. Maybe. It's so weird. It's gotta be up there. It's so weird. If COVID wasn't happening right now,

my recommendation would have been go to a big box gym, get certified, learn the ropes, learn how to sell training, learn how to sell yourself, build up a clientele, prove to yourself that you can become successful, be the top trainer there. Then if you want to do better, then you can go into a private studio and do that kind of stuff. But gyms are closed. And the ones that are open are limited.

A lot of towns and cities are saying things like, you can be open, but only 25% capacity. So that is out the window right now. If I were to start as a trainer now, that wouldn't even be an option. What I would probably do is I would build some kind of a online authority, social media following, and then I would try to train people one-on-one outdoors

in person, and I would meet up. Hey, meet me at the park, I'm gonna take you through a workout or I'm training three people at a time. We're gonna go hiking and do some resistance training outside. I think the demand for health and fitness is just as high, if not higher, than it was before. Here's the thing about personal training.

Yeah. People who tend to hire personal trainers tend to be in higher income brackets. People in higher income brackets right now are more protected from the economic downturn than people in lower income brackets. So personal trainers, if you position yourself properly, there's probably a lot of people out there that still want to hire a trainer. You just have to do it outside of it. Yeah, it's just more difficult to just stumble across them. And so you really have to do a

lot of work at, you know, how do I market myself and promote myself to attract, you know, that type of a client. And maybe it's an in-home situation where, you know, their backyard or something is, you know, something you can utilize. That's something that I was able to structure my whole business around that. So that's a potential option now, which I think a lot of smart trainers have pivoted and made their business mobile so they could go travel and then account for the costs

of traveling all those things to bring into it. But if you're a brand new trainer, getting time under your belt, it's really difficult right now. And I've seen, I've seen some tech companies and I know one of them was like fusion edX. I think I just saw was looking for to hire online coaches just solely, right? So they have the platform and they're trying to like pull in trainers to just help kind of coach them through these, you know, portals that they have provided for them. So I think there's like, there may be ways to at least get introduced to people online and then kind of spawn off and create

what you're talking about with a social media presence to get, you know, more people. But it's going to be difficult. Like you got to get creative. Well, this is a good conversation because Andrew and I were just having this conversation, maybe three, four days ago, Andrew's behind the cameras, but is it aspiring trainer? And, you know, and that was one of the things that he was vocalizing to me recently.

It's just, you know, out of my love, everything I do here, but I also really, really want to, you know, move into training clients. I mean, that's what his degrees in. He's been around physical therapies, been listening to, you know been listening to all the information that we've been presenting for a long time.

And so we talked a lot about this. And one of the things that I was explaining on that is gonna be one of the hardest things to do right now. And it's one of the most important things for you having a consistent business is lead generation. The old school method or what we would recommend the most times to people is what Sal said, which is, go go to a big box gym.

The reason why a big box gym is great is because- Build of people working out. Yeah, leads, you know, gives the average gym that's like a big 24, a lifetime fit in one of those gyms, gets 1500 to 3000 workouts a day. That's 1500 to 3000 opportunities that you have as a trainer to potentially get them as a client. That doesn't exist right now. So how are you getting just people in front of you or listening to you or paying attention to you? Now, depending on what medium speaks

best to you or what you use the best, so whether that be writing like blogging or you're good on camera, so YouTube, or maybe you're great at writing Instagram post or maybe you have quick short facts or stuff that would go good on Twitter. Whatever the medium that I think that you do the best on You want to double and triple down on that on adding value so you can just start to gather Your audience or gather your potential leads. So that would be my first piece of advice. And then flip the script on like this being such a struggle right now, like it makes it difficult for you to get out and meet people.

But this is where I would be doing my studying and learning. It's like, okay, I don't get a lot of time to be out with people and seeing people. I guess this is a great time for me to further my education. So I'm gonna be trying to learn as much as I can during this time and we're not out socializing and being around people And then I'm going to share that information that I'm learning on the whatever platforms I do best on and that is and I'm just and what I'm not

Trying to do to sell people yet. I'm not trying to convert you into a client I'm not trying to sell you on personal training. I'm just trying to provide Information for free to add value to the people that potentially are paying attention to me and begin to build your network. Don't think about the dollar amount, don't think about training the clients right now. Just think about generating leads and your litmus test on it. If you're doing a good job with that, is are you adding people? Do you write a blog and does it get shared?

Do you write a post on Instagram and do people comment on it or do people DM you about it? And if you're not getting people to comment on something that you're providing for free, then you need to up your game, you need to get better at it. Well, that means you further your education or read draft, whatever it is that you're putting out there. My main focus right now would be educate myself and then use one of these social media platforms

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