Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1453: What to Do If You Don’t Have an Incline Bench, How to Improve Grip Strength, Who Should Do Cardio & More

Starting point is 00:00:00 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go asked by our listeners and viewers, just like you. But the way we open the episode was with an introductory portion. So this is when we talk about current events. We like to tell funny stories. We have a great time. We mentioned our sponsors. Today's intro was 39 minutes long. After that, we got to the fitness questions.

Starting point is 00:00:39 Let me give you a rundown of today's entire episode. We open up by talking about Jake Paul, he's causing more problems that guy. Oh man, this guy. Is he gonna get himself a fight with one of the greatest fighters of all time? We'll see what happens. He'll get a fight somewhere.

Starting point is 00:00:52 Then Adam and I have an intervention with Justin. We're working with a company called Caldera that makes some of the best natural skincare products you can get anywhere. And Justin's Gator skin could totally be utilized some of this stuff So it's like snowing in here sometimes he'll be trying it out and we'll be reporting back with the results By the way if you want to check out caldera Use the mind pump discount go to caldera lab that's

Starting point is 00:01:18 C-A-L-D-E-R-A-L-A-B dot com forward slash mind pump use the code mine pump get 20% off. Then we talk about Apple refusing to refund a mother $16,000 because her could you, Apple, her six year old daughter or child or son was racking up those in store purchases. So we'll see what happens. Then we talk about Tom Cruise yelling at a staff

Starting point is 00:01:40 for not wearing masks on the set of a movie. That led us to talk about Gavin Newsome, our favorite governor of all time, and the recall that might happen. Just wanna give him a hug. Then we talk about YouTube having naked yoga on their platform, but it looks like it's being pulled down. Then I bring up a woman named Miriam Rodriguez,

Starting point is 00:01:56 probably one of the most badass moms of all time. You'll love that story. She's an American hero. Then Mexican, I should say. That's it. That's right. They compare magic spoon cereal to fruit loops cereal and the macros.

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Starting point is 00:02:26 Go check them out. Again, of course, use the Mind Pump discount. Go to MagicSpoon.com, forward slash Mind Pump, and then use the code Mind Pump for 20% off. Then Justin gives us a little theory on Boba Fett. You're welcome. Where'd he come from? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:02:42 Then we got to the questions. The first one, this person wants to know if you can manipulate a flat bench press to work the upper chest more since they don't have access to an inclined bench press. The next question, this person wants to know why their grip fails when they do pull-ups, but they're strong when they do deadlifts, like what the heck's going on. The third question, this person wants to know why we're so anti-cardio or not, but we kind of explain ourselves in that part of the episode. And then the final question, this person wants to know, what sports community usually

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Starting point is 00:04:39 of course, you can get a full refund. Go check them out. It's at mapsdysember.com. Again, that's maps M-A-P-S-Dysember.com. Is that still a saying? Do people still say that? Why, why? It's on like Donkey Kong.

Starting point is 00:04:55 Just old guys like you. Sometimes they think about that. It's very much old, you know, dudes. Yeah, so sometimes I'll say things and I look at my kids like, do they even know what the hell I'm talking about? Well, first of all, I don't know what Donkey Kong is, do they? Donkey Kong is still a video game. As a time I hang out with Christina Rice,

Starting point is 00:05:12 it's always like I'm referring stuff to a wall. Yeah, it's just no idea what I'm talking about. You know what's a test? So check this out, right? Let's see if Andrew falls for this. So that's our camera guy on the back there on there. Andrew, use your hand and pretend like you're on the phone. Okay, so he's past the cusp.

Starting point is 00:05:30 So, young kids? Did they do this? This. They go up to a little kid and say, hey, pretend like you're on the phone. Like a cranny chop? Yeah, you say pretend like you're on the phone and look like this. Really?

Starting point is 00:05:41 Yes, they don't do this. They don't do that? No, this is for those of us who remember the cord the phone with Right because you had to like round hold one you speak into when you listen Yes, or like the flip phones because flip phones were still cell phones kind of but I did it to my kids I did to my daughter said pretend like you're on the phone with your hand no, he asked Doug. He goes like this And then he got the one thing he asked Doug he goes like this. Brrrr. Brrrr. No, Doug is this. And then he's got the one thing.

Starting point is 00:06:06 He's got the one thing. Hello? No. Hello? No, he does smoke signal. No. No. No.

Starting point is 00:06:14 I remember when I said that one checks the bingo box. I remember when I was turning Doug and he's like, hey, I just got a tablet. Just like the one I had when I was a kid. I'm like, let me see. He's like a stone. T- not only good for one used to. Hey, no, shut not murder. Please tell me you guys are following the drama that Jake Paul is doing right now.

Starting point is 00:06:33 Oh, well, we talked about it. Yeah, but you saw after escalated after we got off. Oh, he threw, he was throwing shit at the... Yeah, he did too close. Yeah. You know what he's doing too? He's Connering's honoring Connor the ultimate troll so yeah first of all he drives over to homeboys you know his

Starting point is 00:06:51 jujitsu coaches school yeah punks the fuck out of them throws toilet paper at his face gets gets it shot shoots it on camera takes that picture as his profile pic now and then it's better. He unfollows everybody except for two people He's following Connor's wife and that and that's it you guys girlfriend. All these two people he's following You know what dude? It's dude. He's getting the fight. He's gonna get the fight Here's the thing. I don't feel bad for for McGregor. I don't either He does a man this is a game. It is his game, but McGregor is a better fighter Paul is better at the social media fucking with.

Starting point is 00:07:28 I would love that's all he's done the last few years. I cannot wait to hear what Connor has to say. Eventually he's gonna have to come out. Well, did you see so Dana White is brilliant. Did you hear Dana White did? No, cause he's talking about Dana White too. He said a man in Newness, he should have. And man in Newness will be dead.

Starting point is 00:07:44 He said I'll let you fight a man in Newness. And a man in Newness says, I'm in. Now tell me, now he's talking about Dana White too. He said a man in Nunez, he should ask. And a man in Nunez will be there. Yes, he said, I'll let you fight a man in Nunez. And a man in Nunez says, I'm in. Now tell me, now that's, that's 100% would love that. That's like chess, it's like they're playing chess. Jake said check. And now Dana White came back and said, no, check back to you because Jake's, what does he do?

Starting point is 00:07:59 Does he say, if he fights a man in Nunez, if he wins, it's a loss, stupid, he beat up, but if he gets his ass, if he looks stupid, it looks even, yeah, he beat up, but if he gets his ass kicked, it looks stupid. It looks even, yeah, crazy. You know what I'm saying? Which is what will happen. It's a loss. She'll break him off.

Starting point is 00:08:10 She's tiny though, isn't she? I mean, I don't know, man. She's not that small. She's a part of the... Let's see where a man in Newse is as well. She's a bantum or flight, she's not... Is that light? Bro, here's a deal.

Starting point is 00:08:20 If they just do boxing only, she knocks dudes out in training camp. Yes, I know that, but if she just does boxing with a big guy, that's not a good, if they do MMA, then yeah, I'll give it to her. She'll just hit the ground with him and then he's dead meat. But that's a smart 135 pounds. She's still a little more. That's not that tiny. I mean, it's small, that's not.

Starting point is 00:08:39 And it's like boxing, purely. Yeah, you're right. I don't know that she'll have a great. I'll tell you what, purely. So yeah, you're right. I don't know that she'll have a great. I'll tell you what though. Have you ever had like a legit female fighter, like, like pads or hit you? You ever feel that? I've had a Moitai girl kick my leg and that's,

Starting point is 00:08:56 can kill me. Oh yeah, dude. My whole leg was black and blue. Oh, I held pads for one and it was terrifying. Yeah. Oh my God. Yeah, when they get that power down, it's pretty. So what do you think is gonna be?

Starting point is 00:09:08 So what do you think is gonna happen? How is this unfold? I mean, Jake is obviously going ham. I mean, he is. Well, here's the thing. It puts the ball in Dana's court because if he's offering McGregor $50 million, McGregor, you know, is looking at Dana and saying,

Starting point is 00:09:25 why should I not do this? It's 50 million. What can you do for me? Because he's never made 50 million. He's the heat. He's the ever gotten paid 50 million. You never, right? I don't, yeah.

Starting point is 00:09:34 I mean, what do you do here? How much, what do you do if you're him? If I'm McGregor, yeah, if you're McGregor, what do you do? Do you do it? If I want to leave a legacy, like being a great fighter, I'll say no, but if I'm like, that's money, and I don't really don't care, I take it.

Starting point is 00:09:47 50 million? Because he's still like someone in his prime, like he has more fights left in him, like. How many fights do you have to do to make him 50 million? I know, I know, I know. I don't know, it's crazy. And think about it, Dana Whites his boss. I mean, do you guys do it?

Starting point is 00:10:02 Do you do it, Justin? This is like a fight I would want to do after a retired. You know, and you're just like, whatever, I need money. You know, that's what it feels like. I mean, I think he is, right? He's a fool, but I don't think he needs it. Yeah, right. Maybe not yet, right?

Starting point is 00:10:14 I don't know. I don't know. I've just seen the way he spends his money. Well, proper 12 is crushing, isn't it? Oh, yeah, it's doing well. Yes, it's doing really well, isn't it? Yeah, I think so. And you know what, McGregor, I don't know if it's all an act, but he does come across as somebody that's,

Starting point is 00:10:26 you know, he'll get shook and angry and emotional. And Paul is poking every last button, you know, and he's gonna keep pushing on him. He's already harassing his Jiu-Jitsu coach. If he's still ignoring him, I wouldn't be surprised if he shows up at his house or something. It's crazy that the power that this kid can have

Starting point is 00:10:45 because of his social influence. Like did you see too that I think now UFC, Dana White, McGregor, and Jake Paul, if you Google like any of those four things, all Jake Paul's drama that he's doing right now with him is number of millions and millions of searches. Now here's what I was gonna end up fighting him. Now here's what I was thinking, right?

Starting point is 00:11:07 Because now the fight game is professional, but there's a lot of guys in the fight game and there's a lot of ways that it's run. Maybe not now, but in the past, where it was a bit shady, okay. And it makes me think back to hip hop in the 90s with the shit talk. It went off the legal route and turned into like,

Starting point is 00:11:27 you know, shooting at each other. Yeah, should night hanging people over about and getting them to sign a contract. At what point does Jake Paul get his ass kicked, you know, behind the scenes. He's just hanging out and then next thing goes, Nate Diaz shows up and beat the shit. Right at his front door.

Starting point is 00:11:41 You know what I'm saying? Well, no, there's a very good chance, something like that happens. Yes. You're talking that much shit and you're doing stuff like that where you're going and taunting a bunch of fighters. Or even an amateur, a top amateur fighter. Well, I mean, this is how it goes down.

Starting point is 00:11:54 You don't let your coach or McGregor risk it. The guy in there that's the loyal bro, I'm your, you're that let's say you go break his arm. Exactly. I'm the nobody. Nobody knows who I am. I'm a purple belt. I'm not ranked anything, but I'm part of the crew. You know what I'm saying? I know I can still whoop that kid. You see him eating out. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Go handle that shit. That's what's that's how it's going to go down. It's not going to be they're not going to watch his back. Yeah, the Gregor's not going to go fuck with the guy. It's going to be somebody who's

Starting point is 00:12:22 a who's a grunt who is all about the loyalty of the crew. That's the part, that's where I see this may be going, because it's hard to turn down 50 million, and if he keeps getting in your face, the fans are gonna wanna see it at some point, mainly just to see you kick his ass, but he's kind of disrespecting the sport of boxing, and MMA, and whatever.

Starting point is 00:12:42 He needs to be careful because he keeps pushing it It's like I said it reminds me the 90s when the shit talk got so it was selling records Yeah, but then it got so bad that People started shooting each other and shit started happening. I just think that Yes, because everybody around them. It's not it's like they're in cahoots But it's like everybody else was like oh this is going is going down exactly. And then they get all heated. Exactly. 50 million though, man. I'm doing it.

Starting point is 00:13:07 I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I mean, I would fight, I would fight my ties into this prime for 50 million. Totally. What? Oh, he's out of that. He's still on a brand new.

Starting point is 00:13:17 He's still on a brand new. Hold on a second. I go out there and he throw a punch. It just falls down. He's ghosted. Yeah. You had to have to do that. the only way you would do that. There's no way you're actually trying to fight.

Starting point is 00:13:28 Punches you're out of the canvas. Yeah, I guess you're like laying down. Boom, boom, boom, boom. Terrifying human beings. But definitely if you're a McGregor, you're not getting hurt, right? I mean, some people would think that he has nothing to gain from it, except for $50 million, which is a lot.

Starting point is 00:13:45 That's it, that's more than, again, more than he's ever made. Which is insane. So anyway, Adam, I think this is a good time, since we're on air now, to do the intervention. Do the intervention right now? Do the Justin intervention. Oh, wow. Dude, what?

Starting point is 00:13:57 You guys are just ganging up. I don't know. Like, it's been a few years. Yeah, no, no, no. The last intervention. Listen Linda, listen. We love you. This one is actually different, right? So we had a it's been a few years. Yeah, no, no, no, last intervention. Listen, listen, listen. This one is actually different, right? So we had a cheese intervention already once. This is a new intervention.

Starting point is 00:14:10 It's the second one. So yesterday, I was coffee yesterday. I was on the phone with Caldera. And we signed, we signed for all of 2021 now. And part of the piece. So they like us and our people like us. Yeah, we're doing well. Yeah, they love it. Everything's all great. One request is they think they can change your life and your dry, cracky skin. And they said, could you, could this a challenge? They're like, we'll sign for the year, but can you convince Justin to start using and trying our product? We believe that as good looking as he is already, we can make him better.

Starting point is 00:14:47 And remember Adam and I, at first, what I posted this, we're like, listen, he's already hands me. Yeah, keep him down, fuck. Yeah, I don't want to get him ahead of us. So now you have to use their stuff to show everybody what time it is. You know what I'm afraid is going to happen? I'm afraid he's going to pour some of it on his hand. It's going to disappear.

Starting point is 00:15:03 It's going to absorb it. It's going to absorb it. It's gonna absorb it. Before they're so cracking. Have you guys seen my hands? I've just been doing all this stupid work. Like, oh man. You guys have this in gallons by chance? Can I shower it with it?

Starting point is 00:15:17 Yeah. Those little bottles, are they always supposed to last three days? No, it's gonna get expensive, you guys. You really want to do this? But if he actually has all of skin, he just rubs it on. He's like to last three days. No, it's gonna get expensive, you guys. You really want to do this? What if he actually has all of skin? We don't even know, he just rubs it on,

Starting point is 00:15:27 he's like dark like me. Like, oh yeah. Just come in and I'm just, oh, sheen, swarvy. Yeah. I really do though, I want you to try it a little bit. So, just call me Rico Swatty. Oh, howdy, howdy, go. Rico.

Starting point is 00:15:41 Do you guys remember that guy? Yeah. He looked at my- What was his name? Gerardo Gerardo. Yeah. I forgot who he was when you guys brought him up last time and then when you brought him up. Bro, he wore tight jeans, no shirt, right?

Starting point is 00:15:52 And kebobuts. Yeah. I feel like he had a little fanning pack, too. And he was just there. Yeah. Just shake him just as hips. He's all hips. Do you guys remember the- I just made me think of this guy?

Starting point is 00:16:04 Do you guys remember the wrestler? ravishing Rick Rude course. Yeah, dude. He loves him. Did you of course? Used to do like the hair flip and they look at himself in the mirror stuff like that. Does she remember? That's totally out of it. Yeah. Do you remember what he would do? He would like call out a woman for the audience and you like make out with it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, You're wrestling host today. It's a long time. It's questionable. You cock-sluxers still be fucking watching this stuff. I don't watch this anymore. No, ravishing Rick Rude when he'd beat a guy, when they were knocked out, he'd go up to him

Starting point is 00:16:50 and he'd like grind on him. Is that? Yeah, dude. You know, he would do that with a dance over him. Oh, damn it. Yeah, he would dance over him with a little. It was him, Brutus the Barbeque beefcake would cut their hair, and then there was the million dollar man

Starting point is 00:17:02 Ted de Biasi. That guy, remember that member of the million dollar man. Yeah. Yeah. He was awesome. There was a Coco B. We always wore the suit with all the money sign all over it. It showed up in the limo always to the junkyard dog. He was the man. British bulldog was the best. Listen, you guys. Hey, I got an article yesterday. I read. Did you guys see the news on Apple? Right. Apple. Apple that is contesting the $16,000 suit

Starting point is 00:17:26 that this lady is trying to put on him. What? So check this out. $16,000 for Apple. I know. I know. You guys fart more money. Well, listen, so that's what's interesting, right?

Starting point is 00:17:36 So the fact that they're just, right? It's no big deal to them, but I think it's a principal thing. So this kid, five or six years old, five or six years old, rack got five or six years old, racked up $16,000 on in-app purchases on his mom's iPad. Whoa. Six playing games with all the in-app purchases.

Starting point is 00:17:54 And Apple's not gonna refund it? No. In what time span? Well, I think it's, see, it's six years old. Doesn't matter, he's just. What do you mean, it doesn't matter? Of course it matters. It's supposed to be parental.

Starting point is 00:18:03 Yeah, bro. Blocks on it. Yeah, but okay, but obviously the mom's not buying him $16, a matter of course it matters. It's supposed to be parental. Yeah, bro blocks. Yeah, but okay But obviously the mom is not buying him $16,000 worth of oh see. I'm on Apple side on this one for a six year old Yeah, that's gonna look so bad for them. This is it's not worth 16 grand. Oh you think you look bad. You think so? Yep, so I think you I think if you refund this you open a can of worms You refund you give everybody's gonna say it was my can. Absolutely. He's a refer to it.

Starting point is 00:18:27 Absolutely. That's how you get my Amazon. That's why you can't do that. I didn't order die hard. It must be my work. It's this. I mean seriously though, you accept that, then how are you going to decide,

Starting point is 00:18:41 see there it is right there, 16,000 old. How old was he? Childs. Six year old. 16,000 old. Yeah, he? Childs six year old 16,000. I mean, okay on one day So I read the whole I read the whole article right so the in-app purchases They range between $99.99 up to as high as $99 in one day He racked up 2100 dollars was the most so that means this was over the course of like a month or two now Obviously the kid the parent is like she's a a, she's a, she's a, she works from home, a mother that works from home and her kid had.

Starting point is 00:19:11 Yeah, but you can turn off that feature. I know you can. It's, I mean, it's all, you can, there's what you can. This looks so bad on Apple. They're gonna, they're gonna lose more. This is gonna make them look really, they're gonna end up settling or guarantee it. It's not. Who settles, they don't settle for 16, right? You said they just, you know what I mean, they either pay it off or they don't. I don't think they're going to. I a guarantee it. It's not a lane. Who settles they don't settle for 16 right? You say they just you know what I mean. They either pay it off or they don't. I don't think they're going to. I think you have I think you have to stand your ground.

Starting point is 00:19:29 It's like a principle. You don't think you think it's you think it's more damaging for their name. It's a six year old kid. A lot of parents right now stressed out. Kids are at home because we're not going to school. She's going to play that card. Oh, I gave it to my kid.

Starting point is 00:19:41 I'm so busy. God forbid she's a single mom. Apple's gonna look really bad. They're gonna look bad, but I understand it being a principal, you know, too I'm there. I mean, I've this would have been it is gonna make them look bad regardless. This is bad for them Yeah, this would have been a beating in my house all the time. I'm a try now. Yeah, no, this is not I mean This is definitely the the parents responsibility to make sure they can't do it What the hell's happening? You doing all their Doug? What's going on?

Starting point is 00:20:07 Doug's watching his own show. Yeah. When shit goes wrong and Doug's like, ah! The problem is you open up a web page and all of a sudden it starts playing videos that I haven't requested. Commercials just like that.

Starting point is 00:20:19 Yeah, well, yeah. I didn't ask for this. Soccer mom gets sweaty. That was a weird video. What do you been googling? Let's go out of the Google air over there. So, but see, here's a deal. $16,000 worth of purchases,

Starting point is 00:20:32 all by a kid, buying random stuff. I mean, come on, that's... So here's what I think, okay. One, how many hours did you have to leave this kid alone playing video games stuck to his iPad? Of course. One, okay. And then two, there's many, like,

Starting point is 00:20:50 there's many other ways that when you purchase, you get an email for it. They have to have a password in order to do it. So either one, she got notified. Right. There's notifications that come in. So this had to be, like, she had been so disconnected.

Starting point is 00:21:02 And this happened over the course of like a month. You know what though, dude? It's like one big purchase, that'd be different. If a kid got online and they bought $10,000 Pay attention to any of your finances too. Yeah, right, $10,000 worth of Apple products and use the mom's credit card. I bet you they refund it, but it's like

Starting point is 00:21:20 this was over a month of consistently. But here's a deal, You try to make that case. You're Apple, right? One of the richest companies in the world. You try to shame a mom and make the case that she's a bad mom. Again, it's gonna make them look bad. You're right.

Starting point is 00:21:35 You're right. But it is. Come on, where's the personal responsibility? Like we've lost that in general. It's like, this is the whole thing with the, what was that case with McDonald's in the hot coffee? Where. That was stupid.

Starting point is 00:21:49 Yeah, so it was. Yeah, but that's the thing. It's like, I don't know. There's gotta be some level of like, okay, what happened to you, like how much of that was your fault? You're right, that's not, you're being logical. Now, here's the problem. If you're a big company, what you're thinking is,

Starting point is 00:22:03 how is this gonna make us look? Are we gonna lose more money from standing record? Well, that's probably why it made news, right? Yeah. If they would have just, I mean, to your point, you know, come on, $16,000 is not even a speeding ticket for them, you know what I'm saying? Like, that's like, it's Right. No problem here. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:22:25 Merry Christmas. Exactly. Right. Don't let this happen again. We're sorry. But then what I wanted, Now what I would do is, if I was to you, the, the, the, what's the CEO. Yeah. How was the CEO? If I was to CEO and I saw this news, I would come out and I'd be like,

Starting point is 00:22:37 this is terrible. I can't believe that people handled this with you. I really apologize. I'm not only going to refund you the $16,000, but we're going to give you a gift card for, or whatever. No, what I want. And make fake, you apologize. I'm not only gonna refund you the $16,000, but we're gonna give you a gift card for whatever. Now, what I want is, you know what I mean, say face. Dude, publicly, yeah. What I wonder is if this is something that happens

Starting point is 00:22:52 all the time, this just happens to be egregious and it's a single mother who's home with her kid and so it made news. Maybe. So what if like Apple turns down $1,000, $5,000, $3,400 every single day hundreds of these because people all come in saying, oh my kid bought this, oh my kid bought that

Starting point is 00:23:08 and they're like, no, no, no, no. And then the first one that's this big of a dollar amount and because maybe she's a single mom type of deal, it's like, oh, this is big news. What apples the devil? Well, you know, I've got refunded from Amazon from ordering a movie that I like. Have you guys done that before?

Starting point is 00:23:22 No. I've ordered a movie, didn't like it. I sent them a message and they refunded me. What a shame. Great customer service. Really, you did that? I did. Wow.

Starting point is 00:23:32 I didn't even know that works. Well, I did at once. I give Katrina a hard time for always like, trying to even thought of that. Trying to like, she calls all the companies all the time and threatens we're gonna switch services. You know, we get a discount on it. It works.

Starting point is 00:23:42 Yeah. That's the move. We get pissed off. Yeah, she knows what I'm going to talk about. It's like her, like, let's see a discount on it. Yeah. That's the move, we get pissed off. Yeah, so you know what, I'm going to talk about her. Oh wait, let's see what we can do. Yeah, here's a secret to getting through, by the way, if you ever want to get through to a real person, tell them you want to cancel.

Starting point is 00:23:54 So if you need customers, no, I'm trying to cancel right now. Next thing you know, hi, how can I help you? Yeah, so I was trying to upgrade. I was doing all the same. I realized I was getting my friend got this. Dreamed. Hey, speaking of stuff like this That video you guys see a video with Tom Cruise blasting. Oh my goodness. I mean I heard the audio

Starting point is 00:24:13 Yeah, it was kind of funny. I mean it was just him ranting because apparently some of his crew came without masks Yeah, it's a set. It's not that big of a deal So I was expecting to hear him say some crazy shit I mean he said what he said was logical. Yeah. And he was just yelling. He was yelling. Are we getting that sensitive or if you're boss? Yeah. Yeah. Any more. Yeah. You know, it was well.

Starting point is 00:24:33 I think it's, I think it's Tom is getting Tom hearing Tom cruise. Like, I mean, he was going off. He definitely was going off for a solid. Like, what reminded me a little bit of was it Christian bail? Remember when he had it that freak out that they caught on camera and he was just like yelling at everybody? No. But it was really like vicious. It was crazy.

Starting point is 00:24:51 No. Yeah, you should look that one up too. But like Tom Cruise is, I mean, it wasn't that crazy. It was just like him being pissed off because he wanted to make sure everybody could keep coming back to work. Yeah, and he really risking the movie. I get all that. I think it's ironic and funny that they're getting to make sure everybody could keep coming back to work. Yeah, and you really are risking the movie. I get all that.

Starting point is 00:25:05 I think it's ironic and funny that they're getting to make movies. Totally. Of course. They're connected, dude. That is so hilarious to me that they are an essential business. That's all our friend, Nusom. That's doing so. That's exactly what it is.

Starting point is 00:25:19 There was an action factor, there was one woman who had it. As if we don't have a nut like we have more Movies, okay? I mean they just keep piling up piling up. They keep making them making them make them yeah That you you could never get through the a fraction of all of them if you watch TV all day long Don't like we like we need movies don't try to use logic look here's a deal I'm not saying that movie should stop being made because yes There's people that support themselves. I want new movies. What I'm saying is like there was one woman she had to close her salon or I mean it might have been a restaurant or salon after she spent money on developing an outdoor area, had to shut it all down.

Starting point is 00:25:54 Goes the next day to her office, which is her location after she shut it down and sees tents set up in the parking lot with hundreds of chairs for movie crews because they got an exception to be able to run do their thing Yeah, and that's just a Apocrystia it's just friends friends in high places in fact there's a a recall going around with new simbaths gaining steam Do you guys see this? I did so here's the other thing too, so please let the there's a Facebook page which I may or may not be a part of Actually, not a part of it, but I've thought aliens running a bit of signing. But anyways, it's all about recalling new sim and it's everybody on there.

Starting point is 00:26:29 There's four million people, right? You need 1.5 million people to pass a recall. And this has been this way for a long time. And for some reason, they can't find enough people to sign this recalling petition, but there's four million people apparently interested in it. Well, it's actually a process, have you signed? You have to go sign in person.

Starting point is 00:26:50 Five times. Yeah, do the whole thing. Last time I was at Bass Shop, yeah, sign two. Yeah, you gotta go and you gotta sign in person. That's what it is, you can't do it any other way. Yeah, no, but all of them said they did. Yeah, oh, did they? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:27:03 Oh, how funny is that that there's like, yeah, but you'd know that's not true. Four million people didn't all go so. It's probably not true, but let's just take, you know, like a small fraction of that still. There's a lot of momentum. That makes me lose faith in humanity, right? That we talk a big talk or so angry about something

Starting point is 00:27:18 and we bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, but then, oh, we have to go down to the place and say, I don't care that much. Yeah, I don't care that much. No, that totally happens. I'm just gonna stay online. Can I door the place and say, I don't care that much. Yeah, I don't care that much. No, that totally happens. I'm just gonna stay online. Can I door the side? Yeah, the signature place.

Starting point is 00:27:29 I'm just gonna stay home and bitch about it. That's what I'm gonna do. Yeah, wrong. Oh my God. That's a lie. Speaking of funny stuff, so you guys know how YouTube has a strict, like, no nudity policy, right? Like, you can't, you can't see nipples on there.

Starting point is 00:27:44 No nudity. Unless you're watching yoga. Dude, expose it. What the hell? Okay, so this is already going away because I did a little research yesterday. Is it really, yeah, I was like, is this really a thing?

Starting point is 00:27:58 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, that's all you're the best at. I like to use the word research. I like to use the word research. It's research, you know, like, you're like, you're all like, he was researching hard. Exactly as research. It's research, you know, like, while like, you're in control. He was researching hard. Yeah, I was trying to get Katrina and yoga yesterday.

Starting point is 00:28:09 Yeah, I was like, is this real? I'm thinking about starting it up. So tell me about what happens. Oh, okay, so let me go first. I want to go get you a research. Yeah. Apparently naked yoga is allowed on YouTube. And this isn't, like, this is not really yoga.

Starting point is 00:28:23 I mean, it's yoga. I mean, I feel like they're really good The camera angles are like this is downward dog poses It's it's she looks certified to me It's pretend yoga's become porn nowadays even on Instagram. Have you seen the yoga pages come on? Yeah, they're the come up with new moves. I've never seen so what's the deal they're taking it away? Yeah, so yeah I just I was just searching the term naked yoga and like any American would be interested in that. And I was waiting because you guys brought it up

Starting point is 00:28:54 and I couldn't see anything other than, and there was all these ones with like, it was like a bait and switch where they had like a, an image of this girl doing some yoga pose, but then it was they're trying to sell you cars. Like, no! Like, what's happening? Yeah, it wasn't, it's not that exciting.

Starting point is 00:29:11 You know that remind, I don't know if you guys have been watching our young friend, Connor Murphy, right? So I've been getting all these messages in the last like month about him. Like, everyone's just like, what happened to Connor Snack? Because he's been on our show a long time ago. And we know him and everyone's about to text him, see how he's doing. And I messaged him, hey, I was doing that.

Starting point is 00:29:29 Oh, everything's great. And then after that, I started like paying attention. Like I wasn't watching any of his stuff. I'm just, I mean, he's like younger generation, not really into the things that they're into. But I started watching his Instagram and his YouTube. You feel like a spiritual. Oh, dude, he is.

Starting point is 00:29:43 He's fake, dude. It's a character. You think he's totally tro Oh, dude. He is. It's fake, dude. It's a character. You think he's totally trolling? Yes. Come on, bro, 100%. Yeah. And he's doing it outlandishly.

Starting point is 00:29:51 See how far he can get away with it. It's totally below. It'd be great if he became like this guru. Because he just made up a whole yoga. Yeah, what was he, what was the girl, a prosum, I don't know what it was. A prosum, a prosumette or some prosumite. A prosumite. Yeah, he girl, a prostitute, I don't know what it was. A prostitute, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a,

Starting point is 00:30:06 he made up a yoga term with that yoga. Girl sitting on his lap and they're looking at each other and they like breathe together. And they like do, like move around. It's basically dry-humping while you look at someone. It's like, what do you do it? Dude, the spiritual space, I think it's brilliant actually.

Starting point is 00:30:19 That spiritual space is becoming so- It's interesting. Right, we've seen a couple of people that we know that have like pivoted into this all of a sudden, like spiritual reader and medium and all that stuff like that. And there's a lot, I think he's really smart, dude. You know, like that's a whole segment that needs to be exposed.

Starting point is 00:30:38 And also he's doing it in a funny way where it's like, I mean, I'm with Justin, I think it's smart too. I think it's very smart. Oh, I think he's gonna reveal at some point I don't think he's or it's gonna become a character people like to watch That's what I think yeah, yeah, yeah, so so you back to the naked yoga. What's the deal? They're taking it away Yeah, well, it's not you can only find so there's like one video I think it was what the like when we were looking at it because you know you guys were in on this too in the beginning

Starting point is 00:31:03 You just has to lie. Yeah, at it, cause you guys were in on this too, in the beginning. You just had to lie. Yeah, I got to throw you guys in the mouth. Yeah. You exposed me to, I could find you in the same business. I was one of introduced to Tess, right? I think maybe, I think maybe what happened was, this might have been a concerted effort

Starting point is 00:31:15 from maybe it was like a porn company or something, and then they just uploaded it all at once, and then maybe YouTube's algorithms finally caught up to it. That's my theory. So, no, no, there was an article. So, this is how... Wait, it doesn't pop up anymore?

Starting point is 00:31:28 This is how we originally heard about it. This is how we originally heard about it. There was an article about how it's allowed because there's some like side role or whatever because it's yoga. Side role. They allow it, even though it's naked. Yeah, but you can see everything. It's not like they're just doing poses and being conservative about it. Oh, you're right

Starting point is 00:31:50 Like the one I was watching yesterday looks like it's gone. That's lame Hearing gone, you know, sorry I've got a lot of complaints. Yeah, what about the one that I sent over to the group thread is that did you guys look that one back? I didn't even see that. I have no idea. Really? We don't do stuff like that. I'm still better. It's like, no, it's gone. You're right.

Starting point is 00:32:09 Told you. I bet you a lot of people are inclined. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. I think it was like, they just, they just tried to do it all fast. This video has been removed for violating YouTube's policy of nudity and sexual content.

Starting point is 00:32:20 Yeah. Wow. I thought you had to allow that. They snap it in real fast. They allowed it for a second, and then it looks like they probably got enough complaints where they took it off. Yeah. Because the big how great. How random is that that we just kind of found it? It seems like one of you guys is probably searching that every day. It's got lucky. So dumb. Huh? No, somebody. Thanks. No, there was a article. Doug, Doug,

Starting point is 00:32:39 Doug, do this. Why are you getting so defensive right now, guy? Huh? You guys trying to get me a trouble? Doug, Google defensive right now. Google naked yoga, and then look up the new, and then click on news and read the news, or naked yoga YouTube and look at news. And you guys will see. So they must have gotten a lot of complaints. Yeah, I'm sure.

Starting point is 00:32:59 About this whole deal. Yeah. Oh, well, that's a bummer. Interesting. Well, I mean, it was cool for a second. Adam was like, well, I'll do some naked interesting. Well, I mean, it was cool for a second Adam was like well I'll do some naked weight training behind the yoga is interesting. Yeah, crush crushers are See people are uploading naked yoga videos

Starting point is 00:33:13 Yeah, I guess I guess it must have gotten enough people to complain Yeah, though. I mean literally the one I sent yesterday to the group thread. I you can't see no more Wow The click on images real quick. I'm just kidding to the group thread, you can't see no more. Wow. Click on images real quick. I'm just kidding. Memory. Anyway, dude, you want to talk about crazy stories.

Starting point is 00:33:28 Are you guys familiar with a woman by the name of Miriam Rodriguez? That sounds a little familiar, but I don't know. I don't know. Tell us, it's probably a cousin name. So. Damn, that's like two racist things in like one month. You gotta come back, beep it back, boom. Oh my god.

Starting point is 00:33:44 Thanks, Jess. No problem, I got you. So this is a crazy story that I read the other day. I can't believe it in here about it before. So this woman's 20 year old daughter was kidnapped by drug cartels, the kidnapped her daughter, they tried to ransom her and ended up murdering her daughter. So this woman in her 60s, okay, this is true story.

Starting point is 00:34:09 This woman in her 60s hunted down 10 members of this cartel. Shut up. One by one and she would, they're gonna make a movie. Oh, 100% that'll be a movie. Look her up, that's her right there. She stalked them, the killers across Mexico, one by one. Oh, it gives me chills, dude.

Starting point is 00:34:27 No, what a way. She would, yes. Got them? Yeah, so hold on, so she would put on disguises, she would talk to their grandparents, because she's an older woman, and the grandparents of these drug, you know, these cartel members didn't know any better,

Starting point is 00:34:41 and would give them clues. And one by one, she got them arrested is what she would do. She would hunt them down, get them all arrested. Finally, she finds one of the last guys she finds. She's approaching because she heard, I don't know how she found out that this guy was selling things on the street.

Starting point is 00:34:56 She finds him, he sees her, he runs, she tackles him, holds a gun to his throat, and holds her there so that he gets arrested. Finally, the cartel caught up to her and killed her. And so now in the town that she's from, they've built a monument about her, and it's totally spurring this like movement of the people against the cartels. Like she's become this martyr. This is hero.

Starting point is 00:35:20 A hero for, you know, to fight against these cartels. Wow. Awesome story. How crazy is that right? That is way crazy. She's like 60 something years old and she hunted down 10 of them. Yeah, 10 and got them, you know, fearless. That's bad ass. I love that. 100% of Moody. 100% of Moody. Yeah, such a crazy movie. Where did you cut? Where did you read that? Oh, I don't remember. I read it. Um, I don't remember. I think it was in one of the reasons. This is recent is recent. Yeah, I want to say it's recent that our Coles are going through right now. I thought I said one day ago. Is it really I thought it said that that said It looked like it was really recent. Yeah When is this one is it 13th? Yeah, so it's a new thing. Yeah, so they just got up to her and they killed

Starting point is 00:35:57 I just caught up to her so now they're gonna build like a monument to her and it's It's invoking this movement against the cartels. Sometimes all you need is that example to stir up enough popular support. I mean, I feel that. This happened in Sicily in the 80s. In the 80s, there was a judge that really aggressively

Starting point is 00:36:20 went after the mafia. I've told a story before. And back in the 80s, the Sicilian kind of relationship with the mafia. I've told this story before. And back in the eight, you know, the Sicilian kind of relationship with the mafia, especially back then, was keep it quiet or whatever, or you know, don't go after him, we're afraid. One way this judge was was jailing them left and right had all this protection and the way that they got to this judge, the way that they finally got to kill, because he had so many armed guards and he would switch cars and whatever. The way that they got to him is,

Starting point is 00:36:46 as he was in armed car with guards, along with traffic, they blew up an entire bridge that he was on, killed him, killed his family, killed a bunch of innocent people. Well, that caused so much anger, insistently that there was this huge movement against the mafia and it was just, this huge, they jailed so many of them.

Starting point is 00:37:04 So I feel like this right here, this might cause a movement, you know? Yeah, that's right. That's amazing story. Yeah, yeah, yeah, really, really crazy. Anyway, we're supposed to bring up Magic Spoon, but I wanted to do something a little interesting, Adam. I know you love macros and stuff like that.

Starting point is 00:37:17 I do. Yeah, you being the ex-bottom now. And I also love Madams macros. Yes, so I pulled up some comparisons. So you're gonna trip off this, right? So what would you consider to be like a normal, I'm gonna use like normal servings of cereal, not what they say on the boxes.

Starting point is 00:37:33 A lot of times we'll be like, you know, three quarters of a cup or something. Yeah, no, so I actually just did this. I think I told you guys, when I measured out my granola, right? And I measured two cups of granola out and two cups didn't even fill up my little bowl half way. So would you say three cups is probably

Starting point is 00:37:49 an average size bowl? I would say three is even on the low end a little bit. I would say between three and four is what a normal kind of like what most the average American pours are a bowl of cereal. Okay, so three, I would agree, right? Three cups seems like a pretty normal bowl of cereal. So fruit loops, let's compare fruit loops

Starting point is 00:38:05 to magic spoons, fruit, you know, base cereal or whatever. So comparison in terms of fruity, right. So three cups of fruit loops, this is not including the milk. 75 grams of carbs, 36 grams of sugar. That's three tablespoons of sugar in a normal bowl of fruit loops, three grams of protein.

Starting point is 00:38:24 So there's like no protein at all. Magic spoon, three cups, 40 grams of carbs, so a little bit more than half or almost half. Zero grams of sugar, not a single gram of sugar, 44 grams of protein. Yeah. 44 grams of protein. One bowl of sugar, 40 grams of protein,

Starting point is 00:38:42 that's a pretty big deal. Yeah, and if you put milk in there, if you're on a bowl, you put whole milk, you've got yourself a pretty damn good. Do you guys see the thing? Do you guys see they made their way finally into like the body building community, like the page half the way.

Starting point is 00:38:53 Just about chase, they're all hype and talking about. We knew they'd adopted it some time. I know, I know that the magic spoon is just now made their way over to that community, that community's like blowing it up like crazy. I knew that was gonna be like what really skyrocketed because I mean, I don't know, I don't know how it didn't do that already.

Starting point is 00:39:08 I'm surprised it took this long. Well, I don't think the owners of the company, I don't think that was their original direction was they, I don't think they were thinking that. Unless you're in the space and you really get like the whole macro thing and like how body builders are, our competitors with their diet and finding something

Starting point is 00:39:25 like this that could fit in their macros. Oh my God. But if you're not in it, you just, they were trying to make a healthier cereal. That's it. For the general population, it was really designed for GP. It was like, what are kids eating right now? Can we make a better healthier version for the masses, not realizing that the market who I think would really blow it up,

Starting point is 00:39:45 and we always thought this was bodybuilder. Yeah, I know, I know it's there now. Another way to use it too is as a dry snack, when, and I don't encourage it. That's how Katrina's mom eats it. Oh, really? I don't encourage, I don't encourage snacking from the TV, but we do it anyway, right?

Starting point is 00:39:59 Movies on, you wanna eat something in front of the TV. Well, 99% of any snack you in front of the TV is a carbohydrate-based snack. You're not gonna get protein out of anything. You could eat jerky in front of the TV, which I do, but I know a lot of people like the crunch and kind of sweetness or whatever. Magic Spoon Serial.

Starting point is 00:40:15 You just have a bowl of it and you're in- In-Cotrotein. In-Cotrotein mom doesn't even use milk. She just cheats it dry. Exactly. And she likes it. And my kids are like, oh, they'll eat it dry. I'm like, what?

Starting point is 00:40:24 Justin, I want to ask you, you were like, itching to tell us about some new Star Wars theory. Yeah, so. I was a little bit in like, I know, like it went off on another one of those episodes where I just kind of went down the rabbit hole for Star Wars. So hopefully I don't lose everybody here, but basically this is all about Boba Fett

Starting point is 00:40:43 because we, he got introduced into the series. And we're kind of wondering, like, what happened to him? Because he was basically swallowed by this monster. Like, last time we saw him, he fell into the pit and it's supposed to be digested for like a thousand years. I forget what the name of the monsters, but anyway, the theory is, is that basically, the very beginning of season two,

Starting point is 00:41:09 we see this other type of dragon sand worm that's going through the town and eating all this stuff, but he now resides in the Saurak. I think is the name of the monster, but there's an emptied out cave where it lives now. And so he basically lives of the monster, but like there's an emptied out cave where it lives now. And so that, he basically lives where that monster, that was the pit monster used to live. And so the theory is that basically that dragon,

Starting point is 00:41:34 like eight that, you know, the pit monster, eight of them. And cause he had, he spit out this acid and everything. And so basically he digested him and then you saw that mando purposely got swallowed by You know the the sandworm and then basically blew his way out But he was unaffected because of his best car armor. So basically, you know They're the kind of correlating that between

Starting point is 00:42:00 Bubble Fett was able to basically blow himself up blow himself up and And he was fine because, you know, that was what I told you, right? I said that. I thought it was interesting that they showed us that scene. And I felt like this was before he got introduced to the show, that we saw this whole scene where he goes into the belly, blows it up and comes out, and then all of a sudden we get introduced to Boba Fett. It's like, oh, I bet you they did that to show you it's possible, that's why he's still alive. So that's the theory,

Starting point is 00:42:27 and I was like, oh, it's a great theory. And also, I was watching, like, just to fall asleep, I was watching a new hope, like the very first Star Wars movie, and I'm so funny, did you rewatch these? I watch them all the time, man.

Starting point is 00:42:40 Just to fall asleep. Just to fall asleep, yeah. I don't know, it's comforting. Wonderful slumberland. I use it for that, dude. You guys don't have a movie like that. But there't know, it's comforting. Wonderful slumberland. I use it for that. You guys don't have a movie like that. Like, your star wars blankie. Yes, like my little star wars blankie.

Starting point is 00:42:51 And I sleep with it. Like, saber pacifier. Yeah, it's so like basically the scene where Luke is out trying to find R2-D2 and he gets attacked by one of the Tuscan Raiders and gets hit and knocked out with one of them. That one weapon that they used, they both had it. That's where it came from. It was a Tuscan Raider.

Starting point is 00:43:15 And so now it's like, well, I guess, we're finding out more about the Tuscan Raiders and how they actually are more inviting and nicer than they've portrayed them to be. We've just been, yeah, everybody's just been assholes to them, I guess. But so he has their weapons, I was like, I knew that's where I recognized that.

Starting point is 00:43:32 So you think he blew up the sand monster, knocked himself out, Tuscan Raiders found him. Tuscan Raiders found him, raised him. Yeah. The armor meanwhile gets shot. Well, it raised him, but yeah. You know what I mean? That's right.

Starting point is 00:43:43 The armor gets taken, because he blown up, he's whatever. Yes. They bring him back to life. He learns the ways of the Tuscan Raiders and how to use the staff. Or the Jawas came by and took his armor and then that's where it ended up somewhere else. Boom. There you go. Wow.

Starting point is 00:44:02 Boom. It's solved. There you go. Wow boom it's soft We call Today's calls brought to you by Max and a ballake if you're looking to maximize your overall muscle and strength Max and the ballake is the perfect place to start with a full 30-day money back guarantee There is absolutely zero risk. So what is you waiting for? Go to mypromini.com and get started today. It's the motherfucking vlog. English Landish.

Starting point is 00:44:32 Quikwa. First question is from Harmon the Hinger. Any tips or ways to manipulate a flat bench press to make it like an incline bench press. Oh yeah, good question. So in other words, you wanna hit the upper chest effectively. You don't have access to an incline bench. All you have is a flat bench. What can you do?

Starting point is 00:44:54 There's an old school bench press variation exercise that you don't see too many people do at all nowadays. And I understand why it's, you wanna make sure that you're safe when you do it, but it does a pretty damn good job of hitting the upper chest and that is bench press to the neck. I don't know if you've ever seen these before, but you bring the barbell way up high to the collarbone

Starting point is 00:45:16 or slightly above the collarbone on a flat bench. Elbows really, really flared out and then you squeeze the upper chest at the top. It's a great exercise for the upper chest. You need to have good shoulder mobility. Of course. And if you don't want to be a man, that's a little sketchy. I feel like you're right towards your neck.

Starting point is 00:45:32 Yeah, I feel like I have a better one than that. You get a stability ball that costs 20 bucks on Amazon and shipped to your house the next day. And you do a bench, but what you do is just drop your hips. So instead of creating a bridge and doing a normal press, you let the hips drop down and announce an incline press. So I love this stability. But in fact, we used to do incline press all the time.

Starting point is 00:45:56 That was one of my favorite ways to do it, because you can adjust the incline by dropping your hips higher or lower. That's true. Now another thing you can do that I used to do when I was a kid was I would take the flat bench and I would put the back up on some blocks. So I'd make my own incline, right? So I'd have two by fours that were stable. I'd set it up and now I could do an incline.

Starting point is 00:46:18 You could also do elevated pushups with your feet elevated. That's going to hit the upper chest, you know, quite effectively as well. Next question is from Jamil A144. Why does my grip struggle on pull ups, but not on deadlifts? That's an interesting question. I don't know. Do you guys feel when you guys do pull ups,

Starting point is 00:46:35 you hit your grip feels stronger or weaker than when it would do deadlifts? Yeah, I don't know if it's, I don't know if I've heard this before. Like this has been something that like somebody, I know it was like very good at deadlifting but like had a hard time with the actual grip and had a harder time with pull ups and they did deadless.

Starting point is 00:46:53 Which to me it was crazy because it was like they're at least doing for 450, you know, pulling off the ground but then had a hard time like holding on, you know, in a vertical position. So I was actually curious to hear your guys' answers on this. Whether it's a difference in grip from the bar, what kind of techniques they're using with that?

Starting point is 00:47:13 It's really not that much different than as far as how you grip. And God, that's weird to me, right? Well, I would imagine, so think of the position, if? If you have tight, if you're if you're tight in the upper body and especially with shoulder mobility and you're in this kind of stretched overhead position where you're hanging, that might compromise your grip, right? Because not only you're trying to grip, but you're so tight and you're keeping everything tense, you might lose some strength. I think that's a good guess. Yeah. Yeah. Cause it doesn't so it doesn't make sense to me. Like if you were if you were able to deadlift significantly more

Starting point is 00:47:47 than your body weight, right? So if you weigh 200 pounds and you're deadlifting 400, it would be weird to your grip to go out unless something like what you just said, you have really tight lats, tight shoulders, and then in that stretch position, you're completely stretched out to your weaker. Well, this is where I would think,

Starting point is 00:48:02 having that lockout position and doing like an overhead carry would really start help building up strength and stability in that position to then feel more comfortable and stable. Maybe it's the lack of stability. Also, I'll say this. This does highlight something that is true and it's also very interesting and that is how specific strength can be.

Starting point is 00:48:25 You can do two movements that look very similar and be excellent in one and not so good in the other one. I'll give you an example, right? If you do like a bench press with a barbell versus a dumbbell flat press, they both look almost identical. They really do. It's a very similar movement. You're on a flat-brent bench.

Starting point is 00:48:43 You're pressing up. But I've known people who could bench press tremendous amounts of weight with a barbell and they can't go very heavy at all with dumbbells. And then I've seen vice versa. I've seen people with dumbbells be able to handle a lot of weight. And then when they grab the barbell, it doesn't make any sense in terms of how much more they can or they can't lift.

Starting point is 00:49:03 So strength can be very, very specific. A lot of strength isn't just the muscle. The muscle is involved. It's contracting. It's lifting. But a lot of strength has to do with technique and skill. There's a lot of skill involved with lifting. For example, if you practice squats all the time and you get really, really good at squats,

Starting point is 00:49:22 and then let's say you lose access to a barbell squat, but you can do all these other leg exercises. You don't lose any size in your quads, in your hamstrings, in your glutes. On an individual basis, the muscles remain just as strong. When you finally, after a few months, go back under a barbell, you'll probably still be weaker with your squats, because you haven't practiced the skill.

Starting point is 00:49:42 So there's that specificity that is pretty interesting. You sound familiar with that position. Totally. So if you want to get a stronger grip in the pull-up position, the best thing you could do is practice your grip in the pull-up position, not in any other position. Next question is from Yoga Farm Girl. Why the anti-cardio vibes?

Starting point is 00:50:02 Running brings me joy. We haven't addressed this. and the rest of this as you guys should totally interview Charlie Rocket Who's been trying to get on our show for like three years? I don't know that it's the guy who lost a hundred pounds running all over the place You've seen him you've seen him before blonde guys been on a bunch of other podcasts. He reached out to us a couple years ago Okay, and Well, I'll dress the first one first I think why it comes off as we are anti cardio is because we we know a couple years ago. And I'll address the first one first. I think why it comes off as we are anti-cardio is because we know who the general population

Starting point is 00:50:31 and the average client that we trained and who we're talking to. So and one of the greatest challenges that we had as trainers was most people that think about losing weight, think about cardio and running first. And we know that that is not the best approach at all, at all. But are there some people that we would train or there's people that we know that love to run? And they get joy from it and it's meditation for them.

Starting point is 00:51:02 I would never rob somebody of that. And I would never be anti cardio or anti running for that person. I think that if going out for a beautiful run gives you joy and helps you burn some calories and gives you energy and it's like your meditation, like I would never take that away from you. But what we wanna do is educate the masses on cardio

Starting point is 00:51:25 is one of the worst ways for you to try and lose fat. And that's where this gets all confusing for people is they hear us say that stuff. And then they're like, oh, I've had all, or like you use someone like Charlie Rocket, okay? You give me an example of somebody who ran their hundred pounds off. Okay, well, I can give you an example of somebody

Starting point is 00:51:43 who jumped rope to hundred pounds off or, you know, did pushups for a hundred pounds off. Okay, well, I can give you an example of somebody who jump rope to hundred pounds off or did pushups for a hundred pounds off or did nothing and got a hundred pounds off. Like a single story about somebody who did something to lose a hundred pounds is not what we think helps. Jared from some way. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, eat some way sandwich.

Starting point is 00:52:00 You lost weight. And lose weight. Like, there's examples of people that have done lots of tremendous great things to get themselves and lose weight. Like there's examples of people that have done lots of tremendous great things to get themselves to lose weight. We always try and think of who is the majority of the clientele that we trained and what were some of the biggest hurdles and challenges

Starting point is 00:52:16 that they had. And one of those is manually trying to burn fat, is trying to run the calories off. And what happens is most people that come in to hire a personal trainer or most people that tune into mind pump that are getting back into fitness, where they're at with their metabolism, running is one of the worst things

Starting point is 00:52:36 that they can do to start off. And that's really hard for our small percentage of people that listen to us that love to run. But if you've been listening long enough to us, you know that we've told you like, listen, if you like to run, I'm not, that love to run. But if you've been listening long enough to us, you know that we've told you, like, listen, if you like to run, I'm not telling you not to run. Right. And I'll let Sal get into the hole,

Starting point is 00:52:51 like building your metabolism and all the benefits of building muscle and stuff. But really, like, I'm concerned about the repetitive stress. And that's just something that you inevitably, you're doing the same thing for long periods of time and you know, the intensity might come up a bit but your body is just going to start to break down. And you need to change it up and if you're not switching up you know what type of activity you do and what type of stimulation you're getting for your muscles

Starting point is 00:53:18 you know there's a window to that and so I think that we're just always trying to point out that you really need to lift weights. That's something that benefits your running, it benefits, look at your running as an activity that you really love and enjoy, or maybe compete with it or whatever, that's totally fine. But that's not the only health practice. You need to incorporate these other methods to be able to keep the longevity of things you enjoy.

Starting point is 00:53:43 Yeah, cardiovascular activity is great for health. Terrible way to burn, to lose weight, that's all. So, most people, which is what most people want. Right, right, but it's fine. It's fine for health. It's got great health benefits. But if you're like the average person and you don't have time to exercise every day

Starting point is 00:53:58 and your goal is to lose body fat and you like food and you live in a modern society with lots of food around. The best strategy is to speed up your metabolism and lift the weights because you don't need to do that every day to elicit that adaptation. Cardiovascular activity needs to often be done every single day to really reap any of the calorie burning benefits. But even then, if you do that for long enough, your body starts to adapt and it doesn't really give you that benefit. Here's the other side of it, just them brought up the stress on the body. Here's the truth, the human body evolved to run. That is true.

Starting point is 00:54:31 We're actually running machines, but don't get too excited. It's a skill that we've all forgotten. If you've been running since you were a child and you have not stopped, you probably run wonderfully and you'll never get injured. If you're like most people, you stop running around sixth grade and then you decide when you're 30, you want to go running, you don't have that skill anymore. You go outside and you run and you don't think to yourself, I need to relearn how to run, I need to perfect the skill.

Starting point is 00:54:59 You think to yourself, I need to go work out and sweat. You push yourself to fatigue with running and and your technique is terrible, and the injuries are insane. Running is responsible for, I think more injuries than almost any of the form of exercise in the mainstream. And it's mainly because we just don't know how to run. Here's the thing, too. Once you forget that skill, it takes a while to relearn it.

Starting point is 00:55:22 So it's not like you, you know, again, if you're listening and you haven't run since you were in sixth grade, like most people, and you think to yourself, okay, I'm gonna go give myself a couple weeks or a month to kind of get into skill of running. It's gonna take a year or two. It takes a long time. You're literally forgot how to do it. And so when you go and push yourself running,

Starting point is 00:55:39 you hurt yourself. And so that's the big problem with it. But other than that, cardio is another form of exercise. And if you're being active, that's wonderful. It's better than not being active. If you have limited time, though, fat loss is your goal. You want to build insurance against the problems of modern life. A better investment is resistance training. I think a better way to say that is that running right, right? People think that they, if you ask somebody who runs all the time,

Starting point is 00:56:05 they think that they run fine and they have the skill of running. And someone listening right now is going like, really, how hard is it to learn to run? I can go run right now. Maybe I haven't done it in 10 years, but I could go run. You can do it, but you don't do it correctly. I can swing a golf club too. I don't have the technique.

Starting point is 00:56:19 And not to mention too, like people that run, like you're mentioning burning fat and they think that they're going to keep the same muscle mass that they have. Your body's going to start shedding weight everywhere. That's the thing. You get more efficient at it, you get good at it, and yes, we've evolved to run, but that's a totally different body than you think you're getting after. Right. There's not a single client in two decades of training that I have. And I would imagine you guys are close to that, if not a similar, that I've ever trained,

Starting point is 00:56:50 that I did not get them and assess them and find all kinds of issues in balances, pronating the feet, knees, clapsing in, anterior pelvic tilt, a forward head, rounded shoulders. They've got all these posture issues because we sit down all day long and they have all these overactive, underactive muscles that are tight and pulling on the body and causing chronic hip pain, back pain, knee pain, shoulder pain, neck pain, all these things going on with them.

Starting point is 00:57:16 And they also want to lose weight. And then they think that running is a great way. And it couldn't be further from the truth. You take somebody with all those posture issues and they repetitively run outside on concrete or on a treadmill, all that pounding does is exaggerate all those problems. So all what's going to do is a speed up to getting to that injury or speed up to that being worse. Okay, to take it even a step further, if you live in America or in most modern Western

Starting point is 00:57:44 societies, you've been wearing shoes for most of your life. Now that's okay if you walk around and you're just living, but if you want to have the skill of running, the way that our bodies evolved to run, it's not with shoes, okay, there's a bunch of studies on this. There's actually cultures in the world,

Starting point is 00:58:04 I know in Kenya, there's an area in Mexico where people run since their children. And when you watch their gate in the way that the foot hits the ground, it's totally different. Totally different than the way you run when you wear big, cushiony shoes. In fact, running shoes are designed

Starting point is 00:58:21 to compensate for our terrible running. When you run naturally, they actually hit with the four foot first, the foot with all of its muscles and the ankle and all of its muscles, actually acts as a shock absorber. You're not supposed to land heel first. That's a terrible way to run. But if you, again, if you're living in a modern society, you wear big running shoes, how do you run? Heal first. You always hit heel first. That's why you got big pads on the bottom of your shoes.

Starting point is 00:58:47 But when you watch these people, you go watch a modern hunter gatherer society, go look at the hodza tribe, watch them run. They're barefoot, four foot first, and they run well into their 70s and 80s without any problems. So no, this is a skill, 99% of us, totally forgot. If you wanna learn that skill,

Starting point is 00:59:04 give yourself a couple of years, good coaching, and practice. Don't run to work out, practice to run. But most people don't care about that. They don't like that. They just wanna burn body fat. In which case, go lift weight. And that's the reason why we come off like we're anti

Starting point is 00:59:16 because we know what most, like I'm not anti to someone who says, Adam, I love to run, can I run? Like I'm not anti that person. That's hardly anybody. You know, most people are like, I want to burn fat. I want to burn fat.

Starting point is 00:59:26 I want to look better. I want to feel better. What do I need to do? And if it's look better, feel better, running is not the answer for me. So unless you're somebody who enjoys that as part of the process, then yeah. And then in that case, I'm not anti, I'm all for it.

Starting point is 00:59:40 Next question is from Flaw 4581. What sport community do you feel generally under utilizes or totally overlooks weightlifting? You know, these days, luckily most sports utilized some form of resistance training. Wasn't like this not that long ago. I don't, yeah, I don't, you know, I'm looking at, he gave some examples,

Starting point is 01:00:03 rock climbers endurance runner, cyclists. You know, I don't you know I'm looking at you gave some examples rock climbers endurance runner cyclists. You know I'm trying to think it is is there anybody at the most elite level in any of those sports or any other sport for that matter that has not learned that strength training is got to be part of the. I wouldn't say at the elite level I think at the elite level by now everybody utilizes some form of resistance training to strengthen the body or protect at least protect against injuries. I mean I know 30 40 ago, a lot of athletes didn't use it. Before that, it was nobody. I think it was football players, if I'm not mistaken, were the first mainstream athletes

Starting point is 01:00:34 to use football, excuse me, resistance training. But before that, if you lifted weights, they said you would get muscle bound. You lose your athleticism, which is interesting. That was big in the baseball community. They like, they were trying so hard not to develop muscles in the upper body, especially because they thought it would slow down your bat swing. Yeah, and then Mark McWire come out and crushed everybody. That's right. Yeah. I would say mainstream, forget the elite, because at the lead everybody does resistance training now. It just changed according to the sport. But just kind of mainstream,

Starting point is 01:01:03 I'd say endurance athletes. Endurance athletes, when I would train clients, or when I worked in gyms, the endurance athletes were the ones that were the least likely to want to do any resistance training. But on the flip side, they were also the most blown away when they'd incorporated. I used to love taking triathletes and marathon runners. I actually trained a couple

Starting point is 01:01:26 runners that ran Century runs where they would run a hundred miles and we would do resistance training appropriate, right? So I would correctional exercise and I you know injury prevention time resistance training and they would just They would come back and be like I can't believe I didn't do this before. It's like I am so much faster. I don't hurt as much It's been such an incredible addition to my routine. I mean, granted it wasn't much, it was once a week, but it made a huge difference. But yeah, I had some cyclists. I think that was a community that definitely,

Starting point is 01:01:58 like my client was interested in it and found the benefits of it, especially in when he needed to go up hills and gain that power and extra strength and found the benefits of it especially when he needed to go up hills and gain that power and extra strength and found a lot of resiliency from working out and kept him from getting injured as often. Used to get injured a lot more when he'd fall off his bike and break his collarbone or like other muscles and things with terror. So there was a lot of benefit there, but he would always express to me like how much it was needed

Starting point is 01:02:26 in that community, and not a lot of people were seeing the benefit to also like lifting weights to, you know, to promote more performance in cycling. Well, I would agree. I think in Dern, if there's any, if there's anywhere, because I think at the highest level, I think they all do. But if there's anywhere, I'd say in Dern, it's because they can get away with it the most,

Starting point is 01:02:46 you can be still pretty damn good of an endurance. Their energy efficiency. Yeah, exactly. And we talk about this all the time, right? Nothing is gonna get you better to your sport than doing your sport more and more. And that's an endurance sport.

Starting point is 01:02:56 So you're gonna do it a lot, you're gonna get good at it. So you've become a very good swimmer, runner, cyclist for long distance by just doing lots of that and be okay and probably pretty damn competitive and the weight training is not going to benefit as much as somebody who's obviously more of a strength sport. And then the key is also doing the resistance training appropriately for the sport. If I take an endurance athlete and I train them with weights weights wrong, I'm gonna make them a worse endurance athlete.

Starting point is 01:03:27 I heard them. Same thing with any other athlete. It's a totally different approach. When I'm training endurance athletes with resistance training, I'm injury prevention, I'm increasing stability, I'm working on muscles to promote posture

Starting point is 01:03:41 because running biomechanics start to get less- D cellarating muscles and stuff like that. Exactly, totally. I've worked with dancers with resistors training. And again, and they had to maintain their aesthetics, because they're on stage. So I'm not trying to build tons of strength and muscle,

Starting point is 01:03:57 but what I am trying to do is increase their supports and stability so that they can maintain their posture and do their moves better or whatever. So it has to be applied appropriately, but the core of resistance training is strengthening. So if it's applied properly, it will just strengthen your positions and strengthen your technique. And that's the thing that you need to understand about it. Look, MindPump is recorded on videos as well as audio. Come find us on YouTube, Mind Pump Podcast.

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