Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1459: Listener Live Coaching (Q&A)

Episode Date: January 2, 2021

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer four Pump Head questions via Zoom. Is Sal aging in dog years? (3:50) Have we become immune to things with shock value? (5:35) What is ‘laughter yoga,’ and what does it have to do with IBS? (9:37) Mind Pump workouts and bonding time in full effect. (13:43) Breaking down the most recent COVID stimulus package. (16:05) The guys on Peloton’s acquisition of Precor. (22:47) Where the guys are diet-wise, favorite sources of protein & MUCH MORE. (26:48) #Quah question #1 – What MAPS program should I do for a cut? I have done MAPS Anabolic and Aesthetic and boosted my calories up from 1600 to 2500. (43:31) #Quah question #2 – Do you guys have any tips or supplements you recommend to stay asleep? I have been struggling with getting quality sleep and am sleeping on average about 6 hours a night. (49:19) #Quah question #3 – Any tips on how to improve my deadlift? (56:38) #Quah question #4 – What advice do you have on the mental aspect of gyms reopening and then closing again? (1:03:50) Related Links/Products Mentioned December Special (extended one week!): 3 MAPS Bundles for your level of fitness! Mind Pump #1290: The Homeless Crisis With Dr. Drew Comparison of Laughter Yoga and Anti-Anxiety Medication on Anxiety and Gastrointestinal Symptoms of Patients with Irritable Bowel Syndrome Breaking down the $900B stimulus package and $1.4T omnibus bill Happiness Advice for Holiday Haters - The Atlantic Peloton to acquire Precor for $420 million; deal includes Whitsett manufacturing plant Visit Magic Spoon for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Mind Pump #1220: The 4 Best Sources Of Protein MAPS Strong | MAPS Fitness Products - Mind Pump Media MAPS Fitness Performance | Muscle Adaptation Programming Reverse Dieting: What Is It and Should YOU Try It?? | MIND PUMP How To Boost Your Metabolism The Right Way! (FAT LOSS!)| Mind Pump TV How Do You Know When it’s Time To Reverse Diet? Mind Pump #1345: 6 Ways To Optimize Sleep For Faster Muscle Gain And Fat Loss Visit NED for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! MAPS Powerlift | Muscular Adaptation Programming System MAPS Prime Pro Webinar MAPS Prime Webinar The ONLY Way You Should Be Doing Lunges! (Build GREAT Legs) - Mind Pump TV Hip Health Series- Improve Your Squat & Deadlift!- True Hip Flexor Stretch Video 3 of 5) MAPS Fitness Prime Pro | Muscle Adaptation Programming System Kettlebells For Aesthetics - Mind Pump Media Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Connor Murphy (@connormurphyofficial)  Instagram

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This year versus last. So in today's episode it gets better. Yeah, this year versus last. So in today's episode, we answered live questions from listeners of the show. So they called in, we answered their questions and gave them some free stuff. So you can love that part. That's the second half of the episode. The first half, which is about 39 minutes long,

was the intro portion, when we talk about current events, we have fun conversation and we mentioned our sponsors. So let me tell you what happened in the intro portion when we talk about current events, we have fun conversation and we mentioned our sponsors. So let me tell you what happened in the intro portion of this episode. We opened it by talking about my aging and everyone's making fun of me. It's a good time. Then we talked about the non-chuck ninja

that Justin saw outside. He was looking fierce. Really crazy. I talked about laughter yoga and how it may actually treat IBS. Ha ha. Then we talked about the workouts that we're doing in the morning. and how it may actually treat IBS. Ha ha. Yeah, jokes on you. Then we talked about the workouts

that we're doing in the morning. It's a lot of fun, Justin, Adam, and myself, and Doug, have been working out in the morning together and bonding. Like a family. Then we talked about the COVID stimulus bill and where all the money is pretty much going. We talked about Peloton and their acquisition of pre-core. It's a pretty cool, still a good buy,

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It's at mapsdys again. That's MAPS December calm We on Doug. We is on man. Oh Look, yeah, it doesn't have his headphones on. I'm ready, but I guess There you go grease it up. Oh, that mother nice and greasy Every day Sean. This is the reason why, listen, when we, when we're all 65, He's about to talk shit right now.

Yeah, when we're all 65 and I look 64. That's the reason. Yeah, and you look 90, that's why. No, no, here's what happens. I figured this out. I look older and then I start to look younger. It hasn't happened yet though. It's gonna happen.

That's what you're counting. It's like this, it goes like this. And then you're like here. And then I go like this and then you can keep going. Like you've looked 70 for 30 years. I've looked 70 for 30 years. Long time. What do you want?

When I'm 75, I'll still look 70. I hope you have. You know, when I was, did I ever tell you guys guys, so when I managed my first gym, I was almost 20, I was 19. And I was signing up a, so like this couple is a member or whatever, and we were talking and nice, nice man. There's a husband and wife in the dude's side. Oh, you're new to the, you know, Salinas was the first club I managed.

So I'm like, yeah, I live in San Jose. He's like, dude, we got to go hang out or have a super cool guy. He's like, we can go to the bar and I managed. So I'm like, yeah, I live in San Jose. He's like, dude, we gotta go hang out or have a super cool guy. He's like, we can go to the bar and I'll show you this whatever and I'm like, oh, I can't go to the bar. He's like, oh, you don't drink because of fitness. Like, no, I'm not old enough. He's like, no, I'll get out of here.

I showed him my license. He almost fell out of his chair. Do you know what they thought I was? Oh, 32. That's it. That team you're sold, bro. That's that's 32 years old. That's funny. It's not that funny. You're mature. Yeah, and's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it, from major turtles. Oh my God. Yeah, dude.

He's walking on the street, all dressed in black. He's got a hoodie on and he's doubting a nun chucks. Just doing moves with his nun chucks, walking up and down the street. Is that illegal? I don't know. Aren't nun chucks illegal here? Well, I mean, we're in California, so I mean,

all the car rings illegal. I mean, I have a lot of kiss illegal mean, all the car rings are here. I mean, I mean, we're eating a lot of kiss, kiss your partner. Yeah, I mean, actually you're right, Adam, walking outside is a legal, you're right. You're right. You're right.

Staying in your basement. Dude, you know, it's fun. It's like, it's kind of the point though, where you're not even getting shocked anymore. Some of the stuff you see, you know? Well, I'm just like, maybe he's just like waiting for somebody to say something because he wasn't wearing a mask, you know?

Dude, I saw someone jerking off. like maybe he's just like waiting for somebody to say something because he wasn't wearing a mask. Oh, dude. I saw someone jerking off. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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you know, it's thinning out now. It's now, it's like alongside the freeway, there's all these encampments like right alongside the road and like everybody's doing drugs and, you know, all the out in the open and it's just, I don't know, man, it's not good. I've never understood why we don't just like, you know, build a little house out of plywood. I mean, they're we don't just like, you know, build a little house that apply one.

I mean, they're using tarps and like poles and like it's not even like, didn't they try that? Wasn't that in like Seattle or they did that? Yeah, like an entrepreneur made all these like really cheap affordable little like shelters. And the government came in destroyed them all. Yeah. Oh, that's awesome. Where the hell are you destroyed them all. Yeah. Oh, that's awesome. Where the hell is this? Way to go.

Yeah. I also know, I also know. That's hilarious. I know of people who bought a bunch of food and was trying to give it to homeless people. And the city came and shut it down and threw the food away. Oh, yeah. I've heard of that. I've heard, I heard, like, none of the stuff.

Remember how it used to be really popular? Like people would, I mean, I know we used to do this when I was younger. Like, Nino Brown from, what's that movie? No, you jack city. You should, it used to be very common. Like, and I wanted to do this. And I can't remember, maybe it was you, Sal,

or somebody said something to us. Like, you know, where we just like for Thanksgiving or something, just make a big Thanksgiving meal and stand out on the street and hand it out to people. You're gonna shut down? Yeah, you can't do that anymore. No, you're gonna shut down. That is so, it's, I know.

It's, it's infuriating. Yeah, but even if you build, is that because like some homeless person, see I got better right there, I almost had bum. Yep. Some homeless person sued somebody who's trying to give chicken away. No, I think it's,

Oh. Okay, they say it's because of the safety of the, of the homeless people. Yeah, you say eating at a trash can is way better for you. Because they get funding. It doesn't make any sense. I mean, and here's the thing, you can build the shelters,

but there's a lot of mental illness. So I know also places that did that, and it just ended up causing more problems. Well, yeah, I'm not saying you build the shelters thing that you're gonna solve the homeless problem. It's just aesthetically it looked better. Instead of having all these tents and people doing that, you have these literally like, I mean, frame it up

with some two by four in plywood. That's it. It doesn't, I mean, that's better than tarp, you know, and it would have less more permanent, you know. They keep moving them around. Yeah, no, no, what they did now is the place that I was talking about is now the city put, porta-potties there.

So now they put bathrooms there. So I guess they're gonna be there. Yeah, in L.A., there's like a whole like there's like a blocks of it right? Yeah, yeah, there's a waste like 60,000 plus people homeless people in L.A. It's a city. Yeah, over there. It's crazy. Hey, I'm gonna change a subject, but this is kind of an interesting study there It's so I'm always looking up gut health studies things that can help people with Irritable bowel syndrome because it's something that I've always I'm always Battling with on and off you guys know this about me pretty annoying or whatever. Yeah, diarrhea, but yeah, so thank you for spawning it out

That's not a bubble button Yeah, your bubble button he's diarrhea If he's a bubble bubble. He's not bubble, he's not bubble. He's bubble cake. If he's a bubble, that's a big ass. Anyway, so there was a study that compared anti-anxiety medications, because anti-anxiety medications help a lot of people with IBS, because when you're anxious, a lot of it can affect your gut, and you might not even notice that you're anxious, but

that's kind of where it tends to get centered. So we'll give people, you know, benzos or whatever, and they get improvements in their IBS. So they compared medication, like Antigone's got in medications, to laughter yoga. You guys know what laughter yoga is? Have you guys heard of laughter yoga? Is this a cauter Murphy play on us right now? Seriously.

No, there's a real study No, but that's like a true form of yoga is made up. It's real and so what you do in laughter yoga is while you're doing your yoga You This we're getting trolled right now dog. Well, you look this up. Is there such thing as laughter yoga? Well, I'll pull the study up. Hey, this just reminded me that doesn't surprise me Hey, are you guys following our boy Connor Murphy over there? I know of course. What's the name of the yoga he's doing? It's he calls it Primusoddy. Yeah, so much. Yeah, permissade. Yeah, permissade or some shit. I'm sure that's how come he never packed thing with guys He was always yeah, he was doing this one. What did he call it?

The name is like the dove wing or something. They're all just like it's like a train of girls that he's got their legs wrapped around. There it is, laughter yoga international. Whoa. It's a global movement. Look at that. It's a global movement. I'm telling you. So anyway, you laugh.

Looks like a good time. While you do it, and you make it, by the way, here's an interesting thing about it. They look like a ball of fun. Yeah, they do, actually. So here's the thing about laughter, by the way. If you pretend to laugh, you often will laugh for real. So if you're listening right now. It helps you shit. Well, so here's the thing about laughter by the way if you pretend to laugh you often will laugh for real Yeah, so if you're listening right now it helps you shit. Well, so here's the thing I guess if one of them were that transition is coming. Where's the brown comment? Well, dude

So so they compared laughter yoga to anti-anxiety medication for IBS and guess what the laughter yoga did better Wow, it actually worked better than the anti-anxiety medications for IBS. Oh, really? Yes. So if you guys see me laughing for no reason. Yes. Now because of that, have you looked into

what the protocol looks like? I mean, does it look just like regular yoga, but then you're just supposed to burst out like that? All I've seen in the YouTube videos is people are like, Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, you know, as they're doing. It's so funny, because I've seen glimpses of this, like from watching all those like cult documentaries,

you know, like they get into the naked, yoga weird stuff, but then they start all laughing together and then crying like immediately after all together and holding each other and like, what is going on? You know, by the way, you're right Adam, he's hell into cult stuff. But you know why? Because you and I are his partners.

He must have, I'm always on the lookout. He's looking up for the signs. He's nice, he's nice, he's nice, he's nice, he's in one. Yeah. Yeah. He's like, I swear to God, I'm gonna make sure, I gotta check all the boxes. He's not paired on the back.

Oh yeah, cause like real real easy turns into a sex cult Yeah, I just never know Because you're big that's your big concern Yeah, every time You just watch the trends He comes home and he's talking to Courtney He's like, oh man, my hit mobility is really good What are you doing?

He's like, Adam's doing this like inner thigh The saws? Yeah, really crazy We're getting a lot of audience but you know I don't know why What are you doing? Well Adam's doing this like inner thigh work on me. Work on me. It's really crazy. We're getting a lot of audience, but you know, I don't know why. She's like, what is he doing? Are you sure that's not a,

are you in the cult just? Yeah. No. I don't think so. I'm fine. I don't think so. I mean, we do drugs before, but that's just, yeah.

Loosen up my, kind of cares me. You know what I'm saying? Anyway, hey, I want to tell you guys, I am having some of the best workouts ever with you guys. Now that we're working out in the morning together sometime. Well, this is, we are. We are serious bro time.

I believe we've already passed the record, right? It's only been three workouts. Yeah, I think we have. I mean, I was, I was talking like. Consecutive. Yeah, I don't, I don't think we've had more than a handful of total workouts together. We, especially like good workouts that we've been doing.

Like we haven't been, we've done some shit when we travel. Yeah. Where it's like, you know, Sal goes over and does every machine, just goes and squats, I go do mobility work. You know what I'm saying? We've done some of that predictable. Yeah, yeah, we've done some bullshit like that, but like right now everyone's on the other side.

We're actually working out together. Yeah, we're training, right? Which is, it's a lot of fun. And I like your idea about each of us kind of, you know, picking the exercises for the day and doing it. Yeah. Because it's different. It's a lot of fun.

It's very motivating to work out with you guys. It's a lot of fun, dude. This is awesome. Yeah, yeah. I'm enjoying this. Just bringing it back for sure. It is. I'm enjoying this process.

I, you know, I, I don't work out usually with people. I worked out with Jessica. That's a lot of fun in the past. I've worked out alone. But it's good to work out with people that are self-aware. We're doing our thing. So far, Ego hasn't kicked in. Not going to say it's not going to. That will be the greatest challenge. I think we've already discussed this right off here. The greatest challenge will be that, right? Like is... This results start feeling good. Yeah. Because right now, let's eat, I mean, right now, everybody is like easing their way in.

Cause I mean, the amount of consistency and training volume that we're moving into right now is is is relatively is at least for me. It's I've been training like one, two day, a good week, three day week type of training volume, a few sets on muscle groups. So I'm definitely sore right now. I'm really trying to manage. This is way more curls I've ever done. Like, so I have to be really cautious of how I move forward.

Dude, Justin's arms are gonna explode. Oh yeah, he's guaranteed. Cause he's never done that. I love it cause as we're working out today, even Justin's like, he's getting used to the arm pump. Yeah, yeah. I feel weird. I can't move him. I feel like I'm standing like this. It's kind of amazing.

Yeah, it's not bad. This is how we ease them in the cold. Yeah, it's that we easy. Bodybuilding cold. Courtney's super supportive. Aren't you going to go to the gym early this morning? You'll work out. Yeah, she's always kicking me out of the house now. To get that going. Yeah. Anyway, it's pretty awesome. Dude you know what? I'm loving right now. Are you guys seeing all the the COVID stimulus bill means? Oh the $600 ones The calls one had me laughing That's like the next stimulus bills gonna be a cold gift card Dude, did you see what the spending was done on? I don't you guys see the breakdown? Oh, please god tell me tell me I want to know all right. All right. So I'll give you some of the 900 billion first of all so 900 billion was the total right?

Okay, so here's here's where some of here's what some of it's like what is it? Okay, do the math for me on the stimulus Like how many you guys know how many people are getting that check What number you know, I know I know I know $600 for every American It's not all a fight. It's not $900 billion. It's way less. That's what I'm talking about. The vast majority, so here's what it goes. The office of the secretary gets $47 million.

Homeland security gets a million. Partnerships and public engineering gets $7 million. Assistant Secretary for Administration, $22 million. I mean, I can go down the list. The assistant secretary of the book. Yeah, what? Civil rights, $22 million. Department of Agriculture, 108 million.

And then there's millions of dollars that are going to overseas. In fact, I can't remember what country. To Sicily. I can't remember what overseas country we sent, 23 million dollars to for boats. That's literally what we did. I forgot where it was, but we're sending money over to this one country, 23 million dollars for boats. You guys realize this was a 5,000 page bill.

So the previous stimulus, right, when they were trying to pass it, the Congress was like, I don't know if I want to pass it, we got to read it. It was 1200 before that, right? Yeah, oh yeah. This one, which passed,

but Nancy Pelosi prefers this. Yeah, it was 5,000 page bill. Does anybody read all 5,000 pages? No, eight hours they were given. Eight hours they read 5 eight hours to read 5000 pages They do it on purpose and what they do is they inject comical. I know they inject a bunch of Baloney in that right so you get 600 bucks for each child to oh shit. I got three kids. Oh, yeah I don't think I don't think everybody gets it though. I think it's you have to make no

I know I know I really get so you're not getting it. I'm not getting it I know we're not getting it. That's why I want to know how many I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know A small fraction of it goes to the people. Yeah. $600 after- Didn't they pass it like so the government is exempt? You know, like they were able to basically bail themselves out. Oh yeah, totally. And again, a lot of money is going overseas. There's a lot of middle Eastern countries. Oh, it might run this career. The second stimulus check will be phased entirely for single people earning over $87,000 or

married couples earning more than $17 87,000 or married couples earning more than a hundred and seventy four thousand. So they're actually going to relieve, they're going to go to, I mean, that's considered upper class, right? If you're up there. I guess. And then six hundred dollars for each dependent child. So we know, so it's okay. So we know for a fact that there's another stimulus for sure behind this. I don't know. No way. This is going to keep going. Well, I told, I mean, I sent you guys that the webinar that Peter Lennonman did that I thought was really good and his prediction was to a $4 trillion more coming. Just keep going.

Yeah. 4 trillion more by the end of 2021 was his prediction. Well, I mean, technically, you have the, because they're going to keep doing this until, you know, they say that things go back to normal. This vaccine, if it's effective, and if a lot of people use it and it's safe, and it's relatively safe, it's still gonna take a long time

because there's a lot of people that would need to get it. They're right now they're focusing on healthcare workers and then they're gonna focus on people who are at highest risk. It's gonna take months and months before. Are you guys watching? I'm not, I'm totally not watching. Like, where we're at, like, with numbers per day.

Like, we had, like, I know the last time we brought this up on the show, I think we were at the, like, had a record. I got fatigued with all that stuff. Yeah, I did too. What about Sal's room? I mean, I expect you to. You're like a chicken little in the show.

Yeah, I'm, like, a skydiver like a small. I keep my finger on the pulse. Oh, that's what I do. That's what you're figuring. So for the US, yeah, we're still riding the highway. And then for California, because that's where we are, right? So we could check California. I know California is still in first. And we had like a record breaking.

Oh, it looks like it might be coming down though. It's too early to tell though. You know, kind of what's going on. Did you read the Arthur Brooks article that Jackie shared about encouraging people to still see each other? I didn't read it. Oh yeah. I didn't was it good.

Yeah, it was good. I mean, just talking about, I think that we're, I think we don't realize how important that is. It's already like a, it's already a challenging time for a lot of people, like a lot of people report high stress during this time as it is. Like it's just a stressful time of the year. I mean, we talk about like, or we see the holiday cheer with lights and celebration,

but in reality, like there's a large percentage of people that actually report like a lot of stress during this time of year and then adding in the facts that we're being told to not see. But it's a risk versus what we're working. Okay, so, you know, I'll give you, let me give you an example.

Let's say you sign up for an OCR race OCR race involves lots of swinging and climbing and jumping and throwing and it's high intensity And the injury risk is relatively high, especially it's very high compared to regular life, right? The odds that you'll hurt yourself doing an OCR race are Thousands of times higher than you just go into work sitting at your desk and not doing it. But why do so many people do OCR race? And why do so many people who do the races, why are those people typically not your typical fitness fanatics, but rather your normal desk jockeys, right? The reason

why they do it is the risk is worth the reward for them. They're at work, they're depressed. And we knew this, you know, we went to an OCR race years ago and we were blown away by the energy and the enthusiasm and the value of people got and it made sense when I saw it because here you have a bunch of people working offices, feeling crappy, don't feel challenged or whatever. And they're going and they're definitely risking their bodies for injury, but the reward to them was so much more valuable. So I think that's the way you gotta look at this.

Everything's been catered to our comfort, and it's just, you know, people just have lost that edge, that toughness, and to be reintroduced to that, it's like, you know, the human body is very resilient. We're forgetting that because we're not putting any work in the preventative process of it. Nobody's hyping that part of it up. Everybody's just stuck in the fear of everything

that's coming at us. Like you can do stuff about this, and it's just so frustrating, because there's nobody in leadership that has any balls to come out and really tell people what they need to hear. Yeah, I think it's just again, risk versus reward, you gotta figure that out for yourself. So have you talked to your family? I I think it's just again, risk versus reward. You got to figure that out for yourself.

So, have you talked to your family? I know your family is all in stock and so with that, what are they saying about the stock market right now? Well, Peloton, well, I know that there's some bids and some dips, but Peloton, do you guys see what Peloton did? Yeah, man. Yeah, so Peloton announced that they're going to be acquiring what's a pre-core.

So $400 million deal. Huge. Yeah, big deal. And when that happened, the stock skyrocketed. Now I think Peloton's a good buy because I don't see the gyms recovering anytime soon. And I feel like Peloton's kind of a hedge against that, right? So. Lots interesting, because what Lululemon bought Mir, right?

Oh, did that. Yes. That? Lots interesting, because what Lulu Lemon bought me or right? Oh, did that. Yes. That's another interesting, like they're acquiring, you know, a bigger company and, you know, there's some competition there for sure. No, it's interesting. I'm watching that race right now.

So I think it's still, I think it's an incredible buy. And I think it's just, you take a pre-core has been around for a long time. They have. That's a big company. They have, and it's interesting, because I don't know, because pre-core, they must have suffered a lot, right, from, or feeling the pain from what's happening.

Sure, I bet you they got a deal. I bet, I bet, the buying them right now, I'm sure they got some sort of a deal for it, because I doubt there's a lot of gyms ordering pre-core, because pre-core, I would imagine their biggest money is made, not direct to consumer, but to, to big commercial gyms. Yeah, it is.

Yeah, I mean, that's most of their, I'm sure most of their sales. And so if you got, if right now gyms are closed, there's definitely no gyms opening up. And normally in the United States, I mean, geez, just working for 24-hour fitness, I think we were averaging at one point, like a gym a month or a gym every week that was being built.

That's just one company. I mean, there's probably a gym being built every single day, which is an opportunity for a company pre-core. Well, right now everything is shut down. So that's probably, they took a huge hit. I would imagine and I bet they got a good deal for them. Yeah, and dude, I'll tell you know, I remember so long I've been in the gyms.

I remember when pre-core first made their entrance into the gyms. It was the first time that I saw a machine completely take over. Like when I started in the gyms in 97, the cardio areas consisted of treadmills, bikes, rowers, and stairmasters, and that was it. All of a sudden, they brought in the Pre-Core machines ellipticals, and it was just, it exploded, and all of a sudden it was the ellipticals, the pre-cores that made up a majority of the equipment.

Did you start, you started at them after that, right? Yeah, but it was right when I was, because I mean, I remember, because I remember we used to pitch it all the time, it was a no impact. Yeah, that's how it was. That was the, that was the big selling point on it was, you know, that running on a treadmill,

running outside was so bad for your joints and your constant pounding and the elliptical pre-core, whatever, is, took all that impact. So it was a great selling point. So I think that's why I went nuts, right? Yeah, I like to using them quite a bit because of that. And then there was, I could do it, dude. That, that movement is so weird. Oh, you never I did I was such a So Body So lame So funny

Just to just to just to be cool. No matter what I know he you know he loves though He loves the fucking what's the bike with the stupid assault bike Oh, yeah, you can sprint on those things come on. Yeah, it's way different You can sprint on a pre-pricot. It looks like it you know what that one looks like the giant That's stupid bike two inches that stupid assault bike looks like a the giant version of the one My grandma used to ride around in her living room. Yeah, those little white ones. Oh, they didn't wear a fan on it You know says just a bigger version of it. You put a bunch of them from the Self-off as you jam really hard

It's a brilliant machine. I bet you also like the the hand what was that thing called the Ergo? Whatever where you do this? Oh the hand did you like that? No, why would I do that? Oh, I guess it wasn't cool They need to make a they need to make a cardio machine that like makes you like saw wood or something At the same time. Justin will be hell like the the vertimax or not the What's that one that climbs? Yeah, the jakem ladder Jake is that why because because the Russian Rocky 4 Dicks your ass. That's why it's like hard. Why do cardio that's like It kicks your ass. That's why.

That's exactly what I do. It's like hard, why do cardio that's like, wee. You know? I want to go back to our training and stuff because I think it's good for us. We haven't talked a lot about this stuff in a while is sharing what's going on to diet wise.

Like where are you guys at? Because everybody's kind of ramping up. They're training and their consistency. Like where are you all at with your diet? What are you doing right now? I'm just trying to clean it up. Just trying to like get back to the basics. So no single cheeseburgers, no.

No, yeah, exactly. I start, I go slow, I go very, very slow. So usually what I'll do is the first thing I'll do is I'll work on breakfast. So my breakfast was a bunch of egg yolks and eggs and toast and that kind of stuff. Now I've brought it down to less eggs, a protein shake and there's no carbohydrate. Oh, so you're dropping calories, right? I'm just for breakfast. Then I also did a bunch of meal prep over the weekend. And right now I'm not counting anything. I'm just eating

as much as I want, but making it whole natural kind of healthy foods. And then the next step is I start to kind of bring it down a little bit, but we'll see. I'm not ready to cut yet. I'm not really ready to cut. I think I'm gonna just clean it up, eat better, and then see what happens, and then slowly start to cut.

What about you? So right now, I have to increase, right? So when I'm inconsistent with dieting and training and stuff, my MO is like eating once or twice a day. So like, which is terrible for me. For my size, the amount of protein that I need to intake in a day, just to maintain the lean mass that I have my body.

So that's what happens to me is I get, and I think a lot of people think on the outside looking at their like, oh, you look fine, because I don't blow up. When I'm off my diet or I'm not eating well, I don't like all of a sudden get massive and big. What I do is I lose muscle and then I start to get a gut is what happens to me.

And that's because not consuming enough good protein and training consistently. And then if I do over consume on the calories, it's sugar, carbs, it's bad food. So for me, it's actually like introducing food, right? So getting back, I was eating breakfast for the longest time. So back to like consistently eating a balanced breakfast. And that could look like a different thing. So yesterday it was oatmeal, blueberries, strawberries, walnuts,

and then some way protein. Was it, I think the day before that, I think I used magic spoon today was scrambled eggs and sourdough toast. So for me, I know that I have to bump protein up. Like I know that, even though I'm not tracking it, and I'm not there yet either. So right now, similar to both of you guys,

I think, is like nobody's tracking, I'm not tracking either. I I'm not there yet either. So right now, similar to both of you guys, I think, is like nobody's tracking, I'm not tracking either. I just know that it's really, really low. So I'm just conscious of like making sure I do that first. I'll probably start tracking next week sometime. Actually, I lied. I am tracking protein. That's the only thing that I'm tracking.

I'm trying to get a hundred and eighty to 200 grams a day, and then everything else, I'm not tracking. And you know, when you do it, it's actually, especially when you're above 120, 130 grams of protein, it's not easy to eat that much protein. It really isn't. Once you start to track it, man, I get a lot of... Yeah, that's pretty difficult.

I know, that's why that's the main focus initially is to just start really like, making sure I'm consuming the protein and breakfast has always been one of those where I'm like very low in terms of calories and so just beefing that up quite a bit and getting protein and focusing on that first thing for me has helped quite a bit. Well yeah if I don't get if I don't get a good solid 50 to 70 grams of protein before noon I'm playing ketchup all day. Yeah. That's why I have to have a you have at least a good solid breakfast

that's got a good 30 day. You said magic spoon, what does it look like serving wise? So by the way, remember when the last time we did a magic spoon commercial, we were talking about how many cups is normal? Yeah. So I was like, you know what, I need to just a double check like our advice on there

or what we were saying. What looks like a bowl? It's three cups. Three cups is like a standard bowl sizes for like your dishware or whatever. And it's not like full all the way to the brim. And then how many grams of protein was that? So that's four servings.

So a serving is three quarters. So I believe there's what, 10 and every serving. If I remember, recall right, Doug, so that would be 40 grams of protein. So it's 40 something grams of protein. Yeah. And are you doing dairy? Or are you doing almond milk? So, okay, I normally do almond milk, but because Max, once we took Max off of breast milk,

we put him on to grass fed organic vitamin D. So I've actually been, I haven't had that in like years, vitamin D milk. Oh, that's what I haven't run it on for. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Just, that's why you see it in my physique. It does a body good, right? It does.

It goes down smoothly. Hold on. Hold on. So have you tried the, have you seen the A2 milk or whatever? Have you seen the label of that? A2. That looks, I think it's A2. I think that's what it is.

It's a, it's a easier, more digestible source of protein and it's supposed to be better, better for kids. So I don't know, look into it. I did a little bit of research. Oh, interesting. Yeah, I mean, we were going for the most whole natural version I could, which is the grass-fed organic vitamin. When my older kids were little,

this is when you used to be able to buy unpasteurized. Yeah, I wanted to go raw. Did you can't find it? Yeah, I wanted to go raw. I tried to convince you to try to go that, but you just, you can't find it anymore. You can't to go raw. I tried to come out and love it. I just couldn't find it anymore. You can't, I used to, there it is. Yeah, so it's eight to milk.

Apparently it's a different type of protein in the milk and it's easier to digest. I have to do more research on it. It's not even a commercial one. Is it all thin or is it like nice and creamy? No, it's still the same kind of milk. It's good. Come on man.

It's got these whipped cream in a cereal. Throwin' like some weird A2, B2-9-er, they fuckin' milks it out there, you know? What are you doin'? You been doin' vitamin D milk this whole time? Yeah. Damn bro. Yeah I go home like, like why I mess around?

You know like, get all the vitamins and nutrients. Vitamin D milk, cheese bro, I don't know dude, there's a lot of dicks. I can handle it. There's people out there can't handle it. Bro, you can totally disagree. Yeah. Yeah.

In agrees. The car chasing the toilet afterwards. No, you know what though, I'm jealous because I wish I wish I could have dairy for the sole purpose of being able to have milk. So I can nature is amazing. Yeah, I mean, I feel like we're, I don't know. I'm not sold yet on Justin yet, I'm his tolerance with it, but I know that I have a better tolerance for it than you do,

but I can't go too far. Like so, I can totally have a bowl of cereal with vitamin D milk, totally fine. I could totally add cheese to my, you know, chicken tacos that I make, totally fine. But if I sit and have like a good sized bowl of ice cream, or I have like milk and even a small serving of ice cream or something like that, that's too much.

I wonder what would happen if you just took lactase, the enzyme that breaks down. So I've never done that before. I bet you it would help you, because I can't do dairy proteins. So I could do no lactose, I can do that all day long, still messes me up. But some people, if they take a,

because lactate pills are cheap, you know that right? Yeah, I know, I know you carry them everywhere. No, I don't have lactate pills in your work. Listen, that was at the Tahoe House? That's not for me, that's Doug's. That's mine. Oh, that's yours. Yeah.

I've been meaning to try that. Is it make you able to have dairy Doug when you do that? Yeah, I can have a certain amount, but it doesn't completely take care of me. Okay, so that's probably similar. Maybe I can get away with a little bit more, but I notice like, so if I have ice cream right, so if I decide like I'm gonna treat myself and have it. Okay, so that's probably similar. Maybe I can get away with a little bit more, but I notice like, so if I have ice cream, right? So if I decide like, I'm gonna treat myself and have it,

I have to have a very small portion and I have to be cognizant of what I ate the rest of the day. So if I, I couldn't have done like vitamin D, magic spoon cereal for breakfast, and then cheese on some chicken tacos, and then have a bowl, I'm fucked. Too much. Yeah.

But if I did no dairy really all day long, I can probably get away with, especially if I trained, I'd notice too, like if I've trained really I my body's depleted. I can handle a little bit more I see just this conversation is gonna mess up my stomach Super intolerance. I tell you what did I wish I wish I could be so when I was Younger I went through this bulking phase and one of the most effective things I did was I just drank a gallon of milk every single day Yeah, that for sure cause it was cheap, you know, you just buy it at the grocery store. I drink a lot of milk. Milk tastes good. You know, you like that too with milk? Yeah, at least. My little brother was like that two gallons a week. He would come, like we go play basketball or

something. He'd come in and be so thirsty and he'd pour tall glass of milk to quenches thirst. If you're on the Midwest, do that like crazy still. Really? Yeah, it's like a thing. They drink milk with dinner. Yeah, is that what you do? No, I don't do that. So how do you have your milk then if you have so much? Well, I don't need more. Like he bays in it.

Yeah. You saw the magic spoon. I definitely put whole milk and magic spoon in, and you know, like enjoy that. That's so good. Makes you so jealous. So, you know what? You know what though? Here's the thing though.

So I was born on that, okay? And then it weighed, like probably by a high school, I was down to like 2%, by the time I got into like, like lifting weights, I was down to like non-fat milk. Yeah, I know. I know, I know, I know. Then we went that way. And then like now I'm like, you know,

almond milk, macadamia milk, things like that. Macadamia milk, amazing. And I like, I actually prefer it. I, you know, even though I'm okay with that. That's how good you are at the psychological piece, Adam. I think I've closed myself for a little 100%. You're really good at that. And hey, that's a testament, dude.

Whatever you're doing, if you can convince yourself, I'm not mad. I have a closer, I'm the best at closing myself for sure. Hey, tell me that you don't have to do that to yourself when you're changing. Yeah, no. Well, geez, I mean, so much of what we talk about in everything, right, when it comes to nutrition,

exercise is psychological. And if I tell you what, I just tell clients, if you come into workout, saying, I hate workouts, I hate this. You're gonna hate it. You're gonna hate it. Just reframe that. And even if it's time to do that with fish.

You have your line to yourself. Lie to yourself for a while. So your later become the truth. You did that with fish You still hate fish. You're talking about no you said that. I didn't say that when did you like when you like fish? I'd been telling myself that I like it Worked two years. Yeah I don't go out of my way to get it. I call bullshit. Hey, I don't go out of my way to get it Hey, if it's doesn't count my way to get a call bullshit. Hey, I don't go to my way to get a fish.

Stick doesn't count. You know, didn't fish. Didn't not your cheese. Really what kind of fish you guys eat? Salmon. Yeah, keep it. We'll see how we're here to think if you don't like fish, trout, salmon is not a good call.

Like if you don't like fish, you should go with like things like halibut, all the whites, all the whites, tilapia, sea bass. Those are good fishes if you're not a pig. Salmon, everyone goes to salmon because salmon's like one of the best nutritionally. But it also tastes fishy. So if you want, if you're not a fish,

if your not a brother in Lagos all time up to Alaska and like so we've been taking some of his salmon that is King salmon that gets up there. Oh, I bet that's amazing. So it's good. Yeah, so we'll barbecue it or whatever. You know what the trick is with salmon that I learned from Doug a long time. I it from Doug back when Doug when you and I went down to San Diego for that convention years ago

He names his fish. Yeah, he makes friends with it No, here's a deal Salmon is way better when it's rare like it don't over if you make it rare I love I love if you fully cook salmon. It's not good. Yeah, it's nice and Doug taught me that we went I remember we were down there We were ordering food and he ordered salmon and then he told the guy he goes but medium rare And I'm like I don't know you could do that with fish So I'm like let me give that a shot way different. So my favorite shishimi is it shishimi?

It's sashimi. Yeah, sashimi. Yes, sashimi. Yes, sashimi. My favorite sashimi is salmon So that's why I always order. I like it like that. I don't like salmon cooked. No. Cooked in it gets in your teeth and then you get to after burp. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not good.

I used to eat tilapia all the time, but that's only because I thought you were to make the major leaner. You know what the bodybuilding just comes with my brooie. It's ginger skin. That's a myth that's going around. It's still around, too. Oh my god. And I want to say it was a... It's ginger skin. Yeah, who came up with that? Yeah, it's a dumb like one Oh my God. And I wanna say, I wanna say it was a,

it things you're scared, who came up with that? Yeah, it's a dumb like one of the, one of the pro bodybuilders that like used to say that. Yeah, I bet you could look at anything. Yeah, I bet you could look up, pro bodybuilder says to a lot of things. They're like, I don't know why, but when I switched from steak to tolop,

I got leaner. Maybe because- Yeah, the calories, that's well, that's exactly what a lot of them, a lot of them they go on this diet because it. It's been passed down right so I remember seeing this going like oh my god I just want to punch myself in the face. It's it's excuse of it. Yeah, they would so they oh, it's it's the final three weeks to prep And they would switch over to Talapea and they all thought it was like this magical thing in Talapea I'm like no you idiots. I'm like it's like literally a hundred calories, that's why. I mean, just eat less of your steak or have ground turkey instead, like Jesus.

You know, I'm a little bit of rivey there. I will say this though, Talapia is very easy to cook and eat like- It's a garbage fish though, it eats off the fuckin' bottom of the floor. It's a bottom feeder. Yeah, it's a bottom feeder. Yeah, you're eating this.

That flounder. Yeah, I mean, it's like, you guys like muscles? I don't mean like on my body, but you know, like the shell. The shellfish. I just really like. I just like, yeah, I like them on your butt. I mean, muscles eat the garbage of the sea. So I've never been a big muscle eater.

Yeah, really? Yeah, convincing for me. I mean, I'll do it like if it's in like a. What about clams and I will. I'll have them, right? If someone's serving them or like I like oysters, like barbecue oysters are cool, but I'm not a big show. See, tilapia, easy.

If you make it in the oven, put some lemon on it, and it's super light, and you can- Yeah, you do that with the halibut though. You do the halibut or sea bass, and you get the same experience, and it's a better fit. Isn't sea bass more expensive? Yo, yeah, tilapia's hell, it's cheap.

Well, that's, again, it's cheap. That's what I'm saying. It's cheap because it's nothing. They're made up of garbage. They eat garbage. Yeah, exactly. And if I get, oh man, you can buy cases of this stuff right? 20 bucks. Like, yeah, no, shiit. It's 100 calories of nothing. That's what they use it to clean the sewer water. I used to eat it all the time. Well, it's in my skin. Yeah, in the bodybuilding community, it is the staple. Talapia with asparagus.

Yeah, because asparagus is a natural, which I'm currently. Correct, I'm sure. Yeah, just makes it a piece, Mal. Yeah, so those are the staple bodybuilder final two or three weeks. No, and they moved from chicken breast. He's a chicken breast.

Chicken breast, chicken breast. And then it's like, no, it's Talapia. Yeah, I did everything. I was ground turkey, steak, whatever. I just calculated my like, no, it's tilapia. Yeah, I did everything. I was ground turkey steak, you know, whatever. Like I just calculated my calories. Yeah. That's pretty actually simple. I was like, I don't want to switch to tilapia.

Yeah, I feel my beef for me still to this day is the best source of protein. I just feel my best, easy to digest. Definitely. So I, the most energy, I agree with that. Although I do know, and I haven't done this though, and I've wanted to do, I think I'm the only one who hasn't done the carnivore diet, right? You both have, right? I did it for a second, more I do know, and I haven't done this though, and I've wanted to do, I think I'm the only one who hasn't done the carnivore diet, right?

You both have, right? I did it for a second, more as an elimination, but yeah. Oh, you did, so you didn't do the full thing. I did it for a relatively short part of time. Yeah, so when I eat a lot of red meat, I tend to not feel great. Now, here's a problem with that is, I've never teased out burgers and shit with that.

Like, if I'm eating a ton of red meat, a part of that is like cheeseburgers and shit too. So, I don't know if I've never done pure grass fed, good, healthy meat and done a whole carnivore diet to see how I feel, but I do feel like if I over consume, if I'm eating all of my protein sources coming from red meat, that's what the best I ever feel is rotating. Is week by week, like looking out last week,

what was it mostly? I have a lot of turkey, I have a lot of fish, I have a lot of red meat, whatever it wasn't, that's what I'm doing the next week. Yeah, I felt it was actually really nice from my digestive system, but surprisingly, but at the same time, it was like such a chore. I was not eating enough calories.

It was like, if I really wanted to eat the way I should have, I should have even incorporated more meat every day and I just was like, oh, I was like overwhelmed with it. People, I lose weight when I do the carnivore diet. You ever eat just steak? Yeah. Well, after a couple days, I don't want to eat me. Remember, we did keto and I was still in the thick of,

I was just coming off a bodybuilding So I was like 225 or so and trying to do keto and like eat enough calories to like Just eatin just macadamia nuts. Oh, yeah, I remember Tony I remember I came to you one day. I'm like this died as stupid Sal Like you literally eat like six of the same things like they're eating a stick of butter Yeah, he said it to me like I'll eat inventor 6 of the same things. Like they're eating a stick of butter. He said it to me like I was eating a hamster.

I don't know the minute, Bron. Why did you do this to me, son? Well, I was so angry you got that time at him because he was like all, remember, you know how it gets, like when you get excited about the sound. Yeah, he was like all keto guy going all about it. I am very convincing. Yeah, and I'm like avocado, macadamia nuts, bacon, and steak every day. Like, yeah, I'm like, I'm cool with that.

Yeah. This quaz brought to you by Organify. like I'm cool with that. days by going to organify.com. That's O-R-G-A-N-I-F-I.com and use a coupon code minepump for 20% off at checkout. Our first color is Julia from San Diego. Hi Julia. Hi guys, how are you? Good, good. So what's your question? So in the past probably six months I ran Maps Involved and Maps Athletic in that order. I loved them, had great results. Really liked the 3-day program as a teacher, it just works with my schedule.

And in that time, I've reversed from 1600 calories to 2500 calories. Wow. And I'm feeling strong. I'm feeling good. Yeah, it's been a really good journey for me. And I don't feel done yet. So I want to reverse up to like 293,000 calories. So I'm thinking I want to do one more program before I start a cut.

So I was thinking about doing performance for the last program in my reverse. But my main question is what should I do for my cut? I was thinking aesthetic would be a good program to go back to just with all of the supersetting. It had a lot of endurance in it. And I'm just kind of wondering what would be the best program for that because it'll be my first time doing a cut with a program like this. Great question. First of all, awesome job. Congratulations with that. Yeah, and I'm glad you said that on the podcast because oftentimes when we talk about getting your metabolism faster, sometimes we get pushback from people in academia and say, they'll say things like, oh, it doesn't boost that much, but I mean, you went up tremendously.

Did you gain lots of body fat in that process, were you able to maintain yourself somewhat while getting your calories to go up that high? No, I think I definitely have gained weight, but it looks good. It's definitely something I needed to do. It's been All positive, but there's definitely been body fat, but more muscle than anything I would say That's excellent. Okay, so if you want to continue to reverse especially at the amount of calories that you're able to eat now Which is very decent for a female You might want to go with the program that's more strength a little bit more strength focused for the reverse So I would to continue to go up in the calories so map strong might be the program that's a little bit more strength focused for the reverse. So I would to continue to go up in the calories. So maps strong might be a more effective program specifically for that.

And then when you cut, maps performance would be an excellent program to cut with because of the athletic component, the mobility component, endurance phase. Oh yeah, all the endurance phase. And the focus is on performance, which is something that's good to do when you're cutting, because it keeps your mind focused on how you feel rather than how you look, which is, in my opinion, always a better approach.

Yeah. I love that. Yeah, I love that. So when you're, as you're reversing out, as you continue to bump up the calories, map strong, then when you're ready to cut, go to maps performance, and when you cut, you could probably start by dropping 300, 400 calories below maintenance,

see how that feels, watch your body fat, make sure you test your body fat percentage rather than just watching the scale. One more question, Juliet, where did you notice most of the muscle gains in your body? percentage rather than just watching the scale. One more question, Juliet. Where did you notice most of the muscle gains in your body? Oh, honestly, probably my upper body was my arms. I don't think I've ever trained my upper body as much as I have with anabolic.

And aesthetic, I feel like as a female, we're just, you know, inundated with, work out your posterior chain and all of your lower body. So I definitely saw more upper body, but I think that's just because of my past. Okay, and did you notice any other changes? Energy, sleep, libido, anything that shows that your hormones were in better balance, all that stuff. Yeah, definitely. I think libido, everything has gone way up.

My deadlift went up 45 pounds. Like everything has just been so much better since starting maps program, so I'm excited to do more of them. Oh, that's awesome. And then do you have maps strong? I'd even ask you if you had that program. I don't have strong, I have performance though.

Okay, well you have it now, Doug's gonna send that over to you. Thank you so much. No problem, thanks for calling in. Thank you. Yeah, so I'm so glad that we have someone live talking about boosting their metabolism because I've had people tell me

when we tell stories or like that can't happen. That's phenomenal too. Yeah, yeah, we've tried to explain that a lot, and it's so much better coming from somebody that's actually going through that. Oh, I mean, how easy is it gonna be for her now to get lean? Because now she'll get lean, and she'll probably still end up with more calories

than she started with. Oh yeah, comfortable amount. Oh yeah, no, she'll be able to lean out in low 2000s, which was more than what she had when she started, which is, in my opinion, this is where most people should be. So rarely ever did I get a client who I thought that, that needed to lose 10, 20, 30, it doesn't matter how many pounds I want to lose weight,

and they came to me and I thought that their metabolism was in a really good place to start with. I always wanted them to speed their metabolism up first, which is hard because mentally, you tell somebody who comes in says, I'm gonna lose 20, 30 pounds, I say, hey, I don't want you to lose any weight. Let's build your metabolism, let's reverse diet

for a while first, get you up to 25, 26, 3000 calories. Then we cut you and I'm gonna cut you on a calorie and take that's higher than where you're currently at right now. Right, and a lot of people don't think about how they're gonna stay at a particular, you know, leanness, they think, how am I gonna get there? Then they forget they gotta stay there, and if your metabolism's fast,

staying there is a lot easier. And it makes it more enjoyable, right? Like otherwise it just feels like you're depriving yourself and you're struggling through your workouts being, you know, on a low cut like that. Totally. Now, real quick, because some people might not know what a reverse diet is or how that works out.

So in a nutshell, we've done topics, a single topic episodes on this. So you could actually look this up on our mind pump media app where you can look up episodes. But in a nutshell, essentially what you're doing is you're focusing on building muscle and strength and you're slowly increasing your calories. So it's usually 100 calories more a day for a week or two, you know, weight to your body settles and then repeat that process. It's a slow process, but it's very effective at boosting your metabolism. Our next caller is Sandy from Texas.

Hey, Sandy, Doug tells us that Sal's your least favorite host, tell us why. Yeah. No, man, I can't do that. Hey, so what's your question? How can we help you? So I'm calling in regards to, I'm working on getting better sleep.

I finally clicked a couple of months ago about I should probably be getting more sleep, but I'm having trouble staying asleep. I was wondering if you guys had any tips or any supplements you'll recommend to help me stay asleep. I'm sleeping on average about six hours. Okay, that's a great question. When did, let me ask you some more questions because I need a little bit more information.

When did these sleeping issues start for you? Honestly, I haven't slept that well since I was in, since I was in high school. And then when I joined the military, I just didn't get much sleep. It didn't help at all. And then once I started listening to you guys, I was like, well, maybe I should start working on my sleep, but yeah, that's where

I started kind of noticing that I couldn't stay asleep. Okay. So, in my, I've worked with quite a few clients who have served in the military. By the way, thank you for your service. Thank you. One thing that I noticed in common is that they tend to have sleep issues when they're done, you know, when they're done serving. Was it difficult to get good sleep when you were serving? Was it because you

were, because of the schedule or because of the stress of being, you know, you know, somewhere else or whatever? Did you notice any of that? Um, to be honest, I think it was just poor decisions on my end. Uh, I didn't really put any, uh, importance to it. Uh, and I guess I just kind of got used to it. Uh, but I didn't really, uh, maybe the, uh, a little bit of the scheduling was, was a factor there. Uh, but I think majority of it was, uh, just bad decision, bad planning. Sandy, have you tried masturbating before bed

works for Adam Don't answer that you should answer that that's it absolutely there's I just I was just watching a video the other day and Mass guys master I was in that that there's actually a hormone that's released that pairs with testosterone that works like a sedative So it's it's actually proven to help you sleep. Yeah, unless you're looking at the computer screen. Well, yeah, yeah, hopefully you're using your imagination and you're not using the computer screen because I work very well.

Yeah, nowadays that's boring. Sandy, do you drink coffee or caffeine? Do you take caffeine during the day? In the mornings. Okay, so first thing I would do is I would eliminate caffeine. I know this sounds for a lot of people It's a companion the ass, but it actually in studies makes the biggest difference for people even if the caffeine that they have Is first thing in the morning. So that's the first thing I would do is I would slowly reduce or completely eliminate

caffeine the second thing I would do is I would do a sleep routine So I don't know if you've heard us talk about this The second thing I would do is I would do a sleep routine. So I don't know if you've heard us talk about this before on the podcast, but an hour before bed, turn off all electronics or wear blue light blocking glasses. I would take it to another level. I'd say as soon as the sun goes down, you either either one put on blue blocker glasses or shut lights down, go by candlelight and really limit your night to the salt lamps and all that. Yeah, limit the amount of television, phone, or computer time at night.

Yeah, that makes, that makes those two things right there make the biggest difference. And then in terms of supplements, I've personally tried a lot of sleep supplements and there is nothing that even comes close to the Ned sleep blend. I, that stuff is potent. It works every single time.

Oh, knock you out. I mean, we've done militoney. We've done all kinds of stuff. And that was like the first time where I just went out like literally like a brick. That being said, check the big boxes first. Yes, exactly. So I don't, I wouldn't recommend to a client to use Ned on their computer till midnight or staring at their phone in their bed. Like I would tell them to get rid of that stuff first and or invest in something like a pair of blue blockers that you can wear when the sun goes down.

Those things should make a bigger difference. And then like a salsa, the caffeine, check the big boxes first. And then if you're still having trouble, then I would then I would do that. How late are you eating too? So I eliminated eating too close to bed because I've been listening for a little bit. I think the latest I'll have anything is maybe around six or seven when I get off of work. And then I was also, I didn't know if maybe working out too close to bedtime might affect it because typically when I get off work, I'll have something small,

go to the gym and then I'll come back and shower and hit the rack. Yeah, yeah, no working out about two hours within two to three hours before bed can definitely affect sleep negatively for some people. And especially if you take a pre workout, but even if you don't, the workout itself can make it difficult to go to sleep. So you want to give yourself at least a couple hours before bed, but honestly, if you eliminate the caffeine, do the sleep routine, you should notice a significant improvement. And also remember, this is a practice, so it takes a week or two before you really

start to see consistency in terms of how it's working. So don't just do it once and then say, oh, it didn't work, it's not working for me. Like anything else, it's a routine, it's a practice. After doing it for about a week or two, you should notice some improvements. Okay. All right, all right, man, thanks.

Thanks for calling in. Hey, thank you. I appreciate everything you're doing, man. Thank you, man. Yeah, you know, sleep. You don't like my masturbation tip? I mean, why not? It doesn't make you guys sleep you right before?

Or right after, excuse me. I mean, no. I even have good sleep, you know, it's always an option. Yeah, I guess so. Jesus, you guys. You know what? There's certain kinds of inventions. I mean, that's L natural too, dude.

That's as natural as you can get. Yeah, I guess you're right. You know what though, seriously though, it's, you know, how many times I've, towards you can get. Yeah, I guess you're right. You know what though seriously though, it's how many times I've towards the end of my career, at least this wasn't at all for most of my career, but towards the end, just getting people to take it seriously, just made all the difference. Yeah, well that's why I wanted to reiterate that after

you guys went the Ned direction, because I mean Ned's amazing as far as how it works, but I'd always rather see a client first, check the big boxes for you. Tony, if you're, because almost everybody, especially today, right? Today with our cell phones, you're getting it to the root of it.

It's rare that I meet somebody now, and if I ask like, do you look at your phone in bed, like when you're in bed, and they say, everybody does. Very few people I know have a good practice where they put their phone away, or don't take it to the toilet. Or they watch TV before they go to bed.

Right, and the caffeine thing is huge for a lot of people, even if they don't take it in the bathroom. Or they watch TV before they go to bed. Right. And the caffeine thing is huge for a lot of people, even if they do it first thing in the morning, because I know they say don't have caffeine passed, I think two or three PM, but I've worked with people where, oh, I don't have any time to have it. I notice it with me.

If I as soon as I get over, so like, you know, a pre workout is like three hundred three 50s for like milligrams, if I'm at three, four hundred milligrams, it don't matter if I have it at six o'clock in the morning or not. Yeah, it affects my matter if I have it at six o'clock in the morning or not. Yeah, it affects my sleep. Now, it really affects my sleep

if I do it beyond three, four o'clock in the afternoon, but it don't matter, even if I'm taking it in, I'm not as relaxed when I go to bed at night. All right, our next caller is Jackie from Michigan. Hey, Jackie, what's your question? Hey, guys, I had a couple questions, but one that I was really wondering is Adam's talked a couple times in the past how he was trying to catch sales deadlift. And I'm kind of having some issues right now with deadlifting. And I didn't know if he had any advice on like anything specific that he did or any type of like extra exercises that really like helping get there. Honestly, what what did it was I had never put that much focus on dead

lifting consistently. So I was dead lifting at least two if not three times a week to try and do that. Now keep in mind when I say that I'm not lifting like max intensity three times a week. So I'd have one or two really hard training sessions a week, and then the other one would be like form and technique, or I would do deficit, debts, or I do snatch grip, dead lifts, and so I do different variations, or even switch up to sumo every now and then.

But really, I stopped doing a lot of other back exercises in my routine, and then the dead lift just became the primary focus. Right, very much like a, like I don't know if you follow Maps Powerlift or if you have that or not. But a program more like that, that's just focused on a few lifts and getting good at it.

Trying to do it in like a full body building routine and catch someone like that would have been impossible. So I had to focus all on strength and doing it two, three times a week. Yeah, I'm training right now. Actually, I'm hoping to do a first powerlifting meet in March. I mean, I'm in Michigan, so a lot of our stuff is shut down like you guys.

So do you have any specific mobility exercises to you that you think would help specifically powerlifting? Well, that really depends on you, right? So it depends on where you're like, so mobility stuff for me was hips and ankles were like my limiting factor, right? But if you have good hip mobility and good ankle mobility, that's not a big deal to you. So it really depends on where you see the most deficiency or breakdown in your form. Yeah, do you have any areas that you notice? You might think you need to work on mobility-wise? Yeah, I think definitely my hips. I haven't actually ever had pain. I used to do bodybuilding before and I never really got any pain from lifting

but ever since I've been really increasing You know going a lot heavier doing the powerlifting. I do kind of get some hip pain So I went through I've done the webinars a few times So that definitely helps I can feel a big difference. Do you have maps prime pro? I don't. Every time I go to buy one of your programs, I can't decide which one I want. And I get really overwhelmed. And so I'm like, no, wait, and I'll think on it some more. So that's definitely something I'm looking into. Okay. So we'll send you maps prime pro. So you'll have access to that. And then

what I suggest you do is go through the hip, the foot, and the ankle sections, do some of the movements, see which ones give you the most impact, and then practice them on a daily basis. The best way to do mobility is to not treat it like a workout in the sense that you do it for 30 minutes straight, two or three days a week. Do it 10 minutes, twice a day, three times a day,

focus on the movements, get really good at them. But prime pro has a lot of options for those areas. I have a couple more questions too. Are you conventional or are you Sumo deadlifting? Well, I'm conventional. And I kind of get frustrated because I see that, like, so I know a lot of girls pull Sumo and I feel like I should be able to but it's just it feels better but more recently when I've been going up I get really bad low back pain when I pull convention. Yeah you might be right with your hips. The hips might and that might be why it feels more comfortable conventional. How tall are you?

5'6". Yeah I think sumo would ideally but if you are limited with your hips then working on your hips would be ideal. What about hip thrust? Are you doing any hip thrust? Yes, I do those about twice a week. I hate them, but I do them. What's your deadlift stuck at right now? Uh, 290. Oh, that's good weight though. Yeah, you're doing especially conventional.

Yeah, you're doing phenomenal. Yeah, I just started three months ago, so I'm holding it. I have a really good shootup and everything like bench is going well, squats going well, and then that deadlift, I just get, I'm getting real discouraged on it. Okay, is this your first competition that you're entered into?

Yes. Oh, awesome. It's phenomenal. Okay, so here's something that worked really well for me. I noticed the biggest carryover from my squats to my lead lift, so my squat would go up. My deadlift would go up, my deadlift would go up. But then at one point, I started to notice

a little bit of pain near the SI joint. I don't know if you know where that is, but the SI joint is near the lower back, but it's kind of to the side a little bit. So it feels like it's like hip low back pain. Okay, if that makes any sense, is that where you're feeling some ears? Yeah, because I get that sciatic nerve sometimes too that

Goes off there on that side. Okay. Lunges did a phenomenal job for me. I was able what because I noticed I could squat heavy Then I would do lunges and the lunges were just so significantly weaker. I didn't have good Split stance strength and stability So I started to practice lunges and it made a huge difference in my deadlifts because I think it balanced me out. So maybe try doing some lunges, some backstep lunges, or walking lunges might help you out. The other thing we didn't address is sticking points. Do you have any sticking points? Like do you are you better? I'm pulling it all the way but for some reason it's just written that beginning is where I see you tend to get so deficit deficit deficit deficit dead lifts with

lightweight should help with that and then that even that makes me even feel stronger about split stance exercises for you like walking lunges. I think that might help you out. Awesome. Thank you very much. No problem and hopefully you enjoy Maps Prime Pro. If you have any questions just shoot us a DM. Okay? Thanks a lot, guys. No problem. Awesome.

Wow. I mean, talk about strong. I mean, do it. You know, part of that is being okay. This is one of the things, too. And I need a chance to say this to her. But, you know, when you start getting a little bit of progress and seeing like, you know, your weight go up or you're getting

in this could be both from an aesthetic side or even a strength side. We just I think as humans, we want more, we want more, we want more. There is a point too to like, hey, you're doing hell of good. Three months into like, strength training and powerlifting. Be encouraged by what you've already been seeing and hit almost 300 pounds. Conventional deadlifting, that's really good, man. Here's the thing too.

When you go from bodybuilding to powerlifting, there's a transition where, and it's, I mean, it's powerlifters have to go through a similar transition when they go to bodybuilding. They have to learn how to focus on the movement, not the muscle. I've done this with people. Yeah, and it's like, they deadlift and they can't help,

but like, oh, I feel my lats, I feel my back's like, don't feel anything, just perfect the movement. It's all about the movement. It has nothing to do with feeling and the muscle. And then the reverse, you work with the power lifter. And everything they do is about the movement. You're like, no, no, you got to move it away. It's funny.

I see it all the time, like just like that stiff movement, like the transition from bodybuilder to going into power lifting, you know, having to kind of go through that. The movement can be smoother and the more smooth you get it, the more weight you start stacking. It's pretty crazy. It's a totally different mindset. Our next caller is Chandler from California. Hey, what's up Chandler? Where you at in Cali? Hey guys, South area. Oh, you're in North America, right? Right in our neighborhood. We're in San Jose. Yeah, close by. Good deal. What's your question? So you guys have talked a lot about like the you know maintenance stuff physical things you can do to work out when

Jim's are opening and closing but the question's more so I guess on Like a mental approach to dealing with you know, you get one month back in the gym closes back down I'm sure a lot of people like me are trying to spend that one to two month rebuilding, getting back some of the progress that they lost while everything's closed down. So kind of what advice do you have on the mental side of things? Like, how do you approach it? How do you think about that frustration of having to restart over and over?

Hmm. So you couldn't find a speak easy gym, huh? Yeah. One or two. Yeah. Okay, so that's a good question. I cannot imagine how frustrating that would be. It would really irritate the hell out of me if I was reliant on a gym for my workouts

and having to stop in between. This is when discipline plays a big role. So discipline takes over when motivation and excitement go away. So you're going to the gym, you're excited, they got equipment, you're having great workouts. Next thing you know, Emperon Newsom says, Jim's got to shut down. So now you're at home and you don't have a lot of equipment

and it's not as fun. This is when discipline takes over. I do wanna ask you though, what do you have anything at home? Do you have exercise equipment at home? Yeah, I have a couple of kettlebells, bands, pull-up bar, so pretty standard. It's enough to get by.

What are your fitness goals? Well, before, when the gym's open, it's usually strength focused, a little bit of powerlifting, but staying while rounded and just work on my numbers on the main lifts. Dude, have you ever done a pure kettlebell workout, like just kettlebells?

No, maybe half a kettlebell workout with, you know, just replacing normal exercises, you using kettlebells, like doing rows, holding them on my shoulders for squats, things like that. Yeah, you can get some phenomenal workouts with just kettlebells, like doing rows, holding them on my shoulders for squats, things like that. Yeah, you can get some phenomenal workouts with just kettlebells. In fact, we have a very, that's a well-known program that we made a long time ago, kettlebell for aesthetics.

I'll have Doug send that over to you. It's all based around kettlebells. I have something to add back to the like the mental aspect, which is what you originally kind of ask for right We can say you're gonna talk about how to make a workout great out of the equipment you have But I do understand the the frustration and on the mental side right you just feel like you get some momentum and then Kind of smacks you in the face and says no longer use his gym So I want to address that because this reminds me of the the feeling that I had when I came off of test off-steroan and I went through kind of like this depression and I was not

motivated to lift and so I thought, okay, well, you know, I'm gonna go play basketball that'll keep me moving and active and I love the sport so much and then I tore my Achilles and I was just like, man, I can't win. And so I was down for a little bit and that what made me really reflect and realize that, that's just one aspect of growth and health, right? So we tend to focus so much on the weight lifting part and the nutrition part, and we talk so much to that, because of course those are big rocks

and make a big difference in your overall health journey, but there's other aspects of that. When you talk about mental health, spiritual health, relationship health with your spouse or your friends. I started to shift my mind in that direction and started getting back into reading a lot more. Maybe look at other aspects of health that nobody else can control, that nobody else can tell you you can't do. And make that the primary focus during a weird,

inconsistent time with the gym right now, and really dive into that. And maybe that's nutrition for you because you're at home and you still can cook and do the things you want, or maybe that's reading, maybe that's walking with a partner, whatever it may be, or maybe that's meditating or starting to focus on mobility.

Maybe you were like me, where you neglected that for a long time, and you know you need to do a more of it, you're not. So find something within the health sphere that isn't something that new some can control, that you can put your main focus on and just kind of shift that as your top priority and start to put a lot of energy towards that.

That'll, I think that that shift will help the mental aspect of how you feel discouraged when someone keeps shutting and opening the gyms every other week. It is very discouraging a lot of times, because these are uncontrollables. To be able to shift your mindset towards now what I can control and go through that, go through what you can actually do and what you tend to enjoy. And so for me, it's working outside. So I want to focus more on opportunities for me to bring my interest in health and fitness and bring that in an environment where I can still utilize it.

And then what that looks like and start structuring it in a way where that matches with my lifestyle. But really just, yeah, removing all of these things that can seem like it's imposing on you. Like, and just really kind of focusing on reframing it all towards the direction of where you want to take it personally. Yeah, it's fitness as a tool. Use it for the context of what's happening right now. And right now, like Justin said, there's someone

controllables, mold your fitness around it, change your focus, like Adam said. I think that's a phenomenal advice. And then discipline plays a big role now. Now, you're going to work out and you might have to just go and work out, rather than being excited to work out. You're like, oh, Kim's supposed to work out today. They're supposed to work out today.

There's no jam. I heard the guys talk about discipline. I'm just going to make myself work out. You're like, okay, I'm supposed to work out today. They're supposed to work out today. There's no gym. You know, I heard the guys talk about discipline. I'm just gonna make myself work out and I'm gonna do what I can. And you know what ends up happening? Is that discipline then turns back into motivation? And also learn a new skill. I mean, it's a great opportunity.

Like, and Sal had mentioned earlier, you know, the kettlebell for aesthetics, but there's also like these skill sessions in there. We're actually learning the technique and the proper technique to do. A kettlebell for aesthetics, but there's also like these skill sessions in there. We're actually learning the technique and the proper technique to do a kettlebell swing or a windmill or... Do you know? Circus, get up.

Some of these more complicated moves that we just get so busy in our own routines all the time that we don't spend that quality time on really sharpening our skill. Yeah, one last piece of advice, Chandler. And this one's really important, okay? You ready? Yeah.

Make sure you sign the recall for Gavin Newsom. Yes, please. Yes. Yes. Thanks for asking a question. We appreciate it. Thanks, Chandler. Yeah, thank you guys.

Thank you, man. Appreciate it, guys. Thanks. Man, that has to be so common right now, like how, especially in California, like how many people that we have that like, you have a serious goal. Dude, it's so, it's depressing.

It's so frustrating because what we've seen in other countries, they've actually done studies on this, on other countries, on the places with gyms. Gyms have a lower transmission rate for COVID than almost anything else. People don't work out when they don't feel good. So there's that self-selection bias. And then look at the, and again, I'm not a doctor, okay? So I'm gonna preface this by saying this,

but look at the comorbidities that cause the severe symptoms. All of them are these chronic health issues, obesity, diabetes, you know, these blood clotting issues that COVID causes. Exercise. It's so therapeutic, it's so mentally liberating. Like we need an outlet like that and to take and remove that away from us,

I feel as a disservice. But I also, you know, this is an opportunity too, to shift your focus, you know? And we talk a lot on the show about that, it's not just about the weights, you know, it's not always gotta, you can still be a very healthy. I am nowhere near close to the iron strength that I was four years ago,

but as far as my overall health, when I talk about mobility, my relationship, like staying active, moving, that type of stuff, reading all these other aspects that make me better in my whole health journey. A lot of those don't require the gym. And instead of letting somebody else, you know, frustrate me because they're telling me I can or can't do something, I'm gonna focus

on the things I can control and maybe an area that I know that I could be better at that I know will serve me and then I'm gonna pour a lot of my energy there. There's always opportunity in hardships. That's very empowering. You can come watch Mind Pump as well as listen to Mind Pump on YouTube, or on YouTube as well. Mind Pump podcast. You can also find all of us on social media. Instagram is the place where most at, you can find Justin at Mind Pump Justin, me at Mind Pump Sal,

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