Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 1473: How Often to Train Arms for Optimal Muscle Growth, the Pros & Cons of Training on Unstable Surfaces, When Walking Too Much Hurts Gains & More

Episode Date: January 22, 2021

In this episode of Quah (Q & A), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about training arms on “off-days” for optimal muscle growth, trainers who use unstable surfaces to train compound movements, whether too much walking hurts gains, and why gyms don’t make efforts to entice women to lift. How Justin doesn’t do sentimental. (4:21) Does a thief have morals? (5:53) The unintended consequences of mayhem. (8:48) The baby apps to track your baby’s different phases of development. (15:18) Why the Andrews household is in damage control. (18:34) Barstool Fund x Felix Gray. (23:22) Are you playing the Mega Millions?! (25:03) The funny stereotypes around dads. (31:10) The pandemic was great business for Netflix. (35:58) A horror story for a new Arizona homeowner. (42:36) The guys address the backlash they received on their comments surrounding the 75 Hard Challenge. (45:10) Magic Spoon, a Mind Pump fan favorite! (49:52) #Quah question #1 – Can I or should I train my arms on “off-days” for optimal muscle growth? Or are compound lifts sufficient in developing arms? (53:25) #Quah question #2 – What do you think of trainers who are using unstable surfaces to train compound movements? For example, barbell back squat on wobble pillows? Or a Bosu ball?  (57:51) #Quah question #3 – Because of COVID, I have been doing a lot of walking outside. You guys always talk about cardio and how it hinders muscle gain. Is there such a thing as too much walking hurting gains? (1:03:03) #Quah question #4 – If women account for 50% of gym memberships and the population in general. And strength training is so important, why don’t gyms try to make efforts to entice women to lift? (1:07:15) Related Links/Products Mentioned January Promotion: MAPS Fitness Starter Bundle 50% off! Man steals car with boy inside, comes back to return child and scold mom Westworld - Official Website for the HBO Series Baby Leaps on the App Store The Wonder Weeks® App BabySparks - Development Activities and Milestones Pregnancy + on the App Store Pregnancy, Parenting and Baby Information - The Bump The Barstool Fund | Barstool Sports Visit Felix Gray for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! Mega Millions jackpot climbs to $970M after Tuesday's drawing finds no winner Netflix tops 200 million subscribers with year-end flourish, stock jumps 10% Tiger - Watch the HBO Original Documentary | HBO Arizona family finds two-way mirror, video equipment behind bathroom wall after moving into home 75 Hard Challenge Review – Mind Pump Podcast 75 HARD: A TACTICAL GUIDE TO WINNING THE WAR WITH YOURSELF Visit Magic Spoon for an exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! MAPS Aesthetic | Muscle Adaptation Programming System How to Get Big Arms | Mind Pump Media Mind Pump #1437: The Unfiltered Truth About MMA With Phil Daru MAPS Starter | MAPS Fitness Products - Mind Pump Media The Pros and Cons of Incorporating Cardio Into Your Workout Routine – Mind Pump Blog Can Cardio Kill Muscle? - Mind Pump Blog Mind Pump Podcast – YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Dave Portnoy (@stoolpresidente)  Instagram Andy Frisella MFCEO (@andyfrisella)  Instagram Phil Daru (@darustrong)  Instagram  

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Salta Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. You are listening to the world's number one fitness health and entertainment podcast. This is Mind Pump. Now, in today's episode, we answer fitness and health questions that are asked by listeners and viewers, just like you. But the way we open the episode is with an introductory portion where we talk about curtain events

Talk about ourselves our favorite topic. Yeah, we mentioned our sponsors today's intro portion was 49 minutes after that We got into the questions. So here's what went down in today's podcast. We open up by talking about Justin's discomfort with being sentimental. Yeah, I just got it for so-so-feeling, yeah. Yucky. Then Adam talked about a guy who stole a car in Oregon and then realized there was a baby in the car, brought the car back, nice guy. Yeah.

Then we talked about the stupid things we did as kids, a little confession time on the podcast. We talk about baby apps. We've been talking a lot about the leaps that our kids are going through as they grow up and there's a few apps that help you figure that out. Then we talk about Adam, excuse me, Justin losing power at his house

because he lives up in the mountains and it's super windy and trees are flying everywhere. Then we talk about bar stool and the bar stool fund for small businesses and how Felix Gray, our favorite company of blue light blocking glasses is working with them and donating 10% of every purchase of a particular style of glasses. I can't remember the name of it, but if you go to their site, you can find out, but they

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Then we talk about stereotypes around dad, some pretty funny ones. We talked about how Netflix is just revealed they have 200 million subscribers. That's crazy. I talked about Arizona homeowners who found out that their house had recording devices behind the mirrors.

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The next question, this person wants to know what we think of trainers that always use unstable surfaces to train their clients like Bosew Balls and Dynadisks. The next question, this person's been doing a lot of walking, wants to know if they can walk too much, if that'll take away from their strength and muscle gains. And then the final question, this person says, look, women make up at least 50% of gym memberships.

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January dot com Are you recording? I'm just selling that. Happy birthday. It was a brain malfunction. Every now and then we get these requests, right? Like somebody will... Say happy birthday to my sisters.

Yeah, something like that, right? So we try it, we try it. They love your show. This would mean everything. And do that every now and then. And Justin gets so fucking awkward. I don't like it I don't know. I don't like it. It's like two words Hey, you're such an enigma because I could if I put a wig on you and painted you purple

Yeah, and I could do it and told you to dance on stage right in front of a thousand people. Yeah, oh Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna can I record you saying happy birthday? It's anything sentimental, dude. It's like You know, it's like You know, it's from pushing that shit down for so many years right? Get it out of my We can watch all the life time in your house. Shit. You got going on. I'm pretty sure it's from pressing all that stuff so deep inside. That combination of that and cheese is just

just armchair philosophy. It's all your feelings. And easy. It's gonna bubble out. Happy birthday. Oh, yeah. I knew it. I hope I have psychologist.

I hope we have it recording when that happens. One of these days, Doug's recording. No, I don't want to see this. It's just burst out. Yeah, just an eruption. Yeah. Yeah. Start spinning and you have emotions.

I can't have them. You have to focus. Hey, I have this hilarious story I've got to read to you, or tell you guys about that I read yesterday. I thought was so funny. So, oh, Oregon man, his, they are looking for him right now, right? So, so he stole.

He stole. And Oregon man, I have been Oregon, right? This guy up in organ steals a car organ yeah so organ organ organ organ if you're from organ do you call it Oregon like because I've heard that all the time like it pissed me off Oregon Oregon Oregon Oregon Oregon Oregon you know what happened Oregonian Adam said shit wrong and then I don't I'm ruined don't blame it on me. I'm ruined. Anyway, I'm doing it on me. So, so guy steals car, okay? After he steals a car realizes that there was a child

in the back seat. Oh, so it gets better. So dude returns back the car and he yells at the woman that he's gonna turn her into the police for leaving her kid in the car. He's turning this around on her. It's where the God, it's where the God's a real story right now.

Yes, the balls of the stand. That great, you can just steal the car and then you can see a child in the back. That's a talk to me. This is irresponsible, lady. Yeah, that's okay. I'm just trying to do my thing. You know, get a new car, just drive.

That's one of those toxic relationship, guys, you know what I mean? It's your fault, I mean, you walked in the back. You walked right in my hand. Yeah, exactly. I actually looked at it like he has morals. You know what I'm saying? That's how I looked at it. It's like this thief has morals.

Well, he probably stealing a car is okay. Stealing a child, not okay. Exactly. Well, when I'm saying he probably mentally prepared for Grand Theft Auto. Was not ready for kidnapping. Right. And that's another level.

I could deal with this. And I was like, oh, what is the difference in those crimes? How much crazier is one that, what is that? It's got to be way different. Oh my god. I'm sure you're right. Look that up, Doug. What's maximum sense for Grand Theft Auto?

Doug, you remind me of the top of a set. Yeah. Did you watch the latest season of Westworld where they had that app where it was like you could do certain amounts of crime? Yeah, yeah. But it was like on it. Yeah, and so he was all going through,

like, oh, I'm not comfortable with this. Yeah, he was comfortable with this. Yeah, there's some people thinking that. Yeah, I'll still ship, but I'm not killing anybody. All right, Grand Theft Auto is considered a wobbler offense that can be filed by prosecutors as either a felony or a misdemeanor. So if it's a felony, the maximum penalty, one could receive is three years in prison.

If charge is a misdemeanor, the maximum penalty is a year in jail. All right, now look up kidnapping. Yeah. To put in how much jail could I get if I kidnap? Kidnapping is moving into the person in a substantial difference without the person's consent by means of force or fear.

Simple kidnapping is a felony punishable by eight years in state prison. Oh, okay, so there's some more time involved there. Big difference. He's like, this is a misdemeanor. He's like, I could do a year. He's still in this bit, right now. I could do a year for a bit,

but I am not doing eight years for a kid. Looks in the back. That's just excessive. Oh, shit. Yeah. That's just excessive. Oh shit. Yeah. That would suck. And reminding me when I was a kid once, when you were still in cars.

Well, I was still in cars back in the day. Okay. You know the hot wire? Yeah. Yeah, all that stuff. No, I never did that. No, we, get you out the old Slim Jim. No, friend of mine threw a rock over a fence and it broke a window.

And there was a person in the room and so it changes the whole thing. First of all, he didn't mean to break a window so that's like through a rock and window oh shit, person screaming. Oh crap. Oh wow. I don't have any that craze but I told the story already but when me and my friend were just throwing rocks at this yellow jacket hive and it was just you know it was fun And we just kept throwing, I don't know to have from a distance. I don't remember this story. You don't remember this story?

Okay, so there's this one. Okay, so this was fun. It was fun. I hate those things. I just enjoy killing those yellow jackets. But so there's this corner where, you know, it's a blind turn and we were hiding behind this car and throwing rocks at it because we had to stay a distance and they were getting pissed.

They were covering the sky. That's weird. Yeah. And so the sky's just, well, you need to back up and paint the picture over there. So I'm confused right now. You said driving and then a corner, blind corner, and then a wasp nest, what?

No, so it was yellow jackets. No, no, no, there's a blind turn in the road so we're basically walking home from school okay and we stopped and we noticed that there was a yellow jackas kind of shooting out of this one spot so we're like oh sweet this is opportunity to grab some rocks you know throw it at it you know stir things up, you know, how old are you right here? 35, yeah. And I was probably like, in fourth grade or something. Okay, okay. And so, but I still remember this to stay

because I feel terrible about it. But me and my best friend, we were like grabbing bigger rocks and throwing them and it just was madness. And this poor guy was walking up the street and he had no idea like any of this stuff was happening and was just, you know, mine is business and just walked literally right into it.

And he didn't walk like on the other side of the road where he would have just probably, you know, had one or two kind of go after him. He walked right in the eye of the storm and they literally just engulfed his body. Oh wow. It was stinging. He was was screaming and then this old lady pulls up and she's like, she's like, get in the car.

He gets in the car, he's squatting them in the car. And me and my friend were just looking at each other with like ghosted faces like, oh my god. Wait a second. So a stranger is driving by. Seas is driving. No walking, but oh, that's the lady. Yeah, a stranger is driving by.

Seas like I get attacked by a boss. She opens door, get in, let's by. See the guy getting attacked by a boss. She opens the door. Get in, let's go. We were hiding behind this car, like watching this old thing. We weren't like, hey, stop. No, we were just like, oh my god. You're like, whoa, what's gonna happen?

Hang, man. And he didn't know that you guys did it. No, was this in Santa Cruz? That was near my house. Up in my grip. What's out with Thomas? It's up in Fulton. I remember reading that.

That's not like I died. He's all kind of a fla in filth I remember reading that that's not a guy died He's on a flactive shot Travertize relies I think there's unintended consequences to me ham. That's what I'm trying to say you get a DM my dad died We will wash the town. Oh, dude, please. Oh, I just in my heart. I believe he was okay, dude Yeah, no, but these days nobody would have Dropped by and said get in the car. I pulled their phone out. Yeah, yeah, we got to record this this case. Oh, yeah, exactly Yeah, that's crazy. I was a little asshole kid. That's definitely not a cool move Adam doesn't talk about his stories like guarantee's got a ton. No, I don't I don't have that many I

Do except the time you convinced your younger younger simply the world was gonna end No, I don't I don't have that many. I do. Except the time you convinced your younger younger simply the world is gonna end. Those are harmless though. You know what's real hard? Yeah, he wrote a will. It's card him emotionally for a few decades, but other than that, it's didn't hurt him. You know, it's staying home or anything like that. You know, it's just and I have this in common. This is the shit're at full health. Yeah, you see. You know, it's, you know, it's nothing physical. You know what it is?

And Justin, I had this in common. This is the shit kids do when you live out in the country. And you get nothing else that you can't afford. He calls a ruckus. Yeah, we, I, one of the things that I remember we got in big trouble for was we lived on top of this. So one of the houses that we lived at, we had this like three acres and it was like this steep hill

and we could stand at the top of the property and we could throw lemons and just make it to the road. And it was so high up and kind of far away that if you're driving on the road, you can't really see where it's coming from. And you know, talk about almost impossible to time, like launching that, you know, 50 yards and then also a car.

But you got incredible aim. I do. And the low key flash ran. Yeah, you got perfect. Actually, I don't think it was me. I was just, you know, I guilt by association right? I was there. So I think it was actually my cousin who had the accurate accurate arm that that tossed it and hit the top of the

The hood of a card if you can just imagine a lamp a lemon coming down like from that far up Oh, boo like I mean it now as an adult you're just like Oh, that is like immediate. Oh, yeah I mean, we actually got away with it as far as the person who we the car that we hit didn't never put it together But our parents caught us, you know, we got caught From our parents and just I We got caught from our parents. And I think that was one of those lashings or... All right, I mean, there's so many,

you just think back and you just think to yourself that you would kick your own ass now. Like if I, like I did one, I just just, one of the things that I regret doing for the rest of my life. So if I did this to you, I'm sorry, but we got smoke bombs. Remember smoke bombs?

Yeah. Smoke bombs were awesome. I don't know if you could buy them anymore, but they're like, they were like these balls and they were colored, so it was like, one would be blue. Give them triantown. Yeah, one would be red, and then you delight it,

and then when the, when they would get the, Wicked would come down, it would be like blue smoke, and it was really cool to watch, and I mean, they're really totally safe. I don't think they were big fire hazard or whatever, but you could buy them regularly when I was, easily when I was a kid. And me and my friend did, we were on our bikes,

riding and we, we tried, we ride by cars with the window was open a little bit, we put it in there. And I know some people went in their car the next day, open the door and it was blue, in poultry. Oh, man. I mean, terrible. Oh yeah. Yeah. Oh, man. I mean, terrible.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, I wouldn't ask. If I saw a kid doing that now, it would be, I would, be very angry. Yeah, no, that's unacceptable, baby. That's a very least. What a piece of it. I have to address this because it's been driving me crazy

and I'm gonna pull up my phone so I don't forget. I get, ever since we talked about the apps, about the pregnancy, my DMs, at least probably 50% of them. Oh, like when the kids, I know I should have never brought it up because now everybody's asking. And it's not me who obviously has the app, it's Katrina who has it,

so I've got to remember when I get home to ask her and then to write it down, so I remember. So anyways, I got it, okay, so. Here it is. Here are the four apps that she uses, or we use, right? Leaps is one. I think that's the one we use. The Wonder Weeks and Baby Sparks.

And then there's one called the pregnancy app and the bump. Those are all four of the ones that she uses and she likes. It tells you what to expect and a lot of stuff. Yeah, it's cool. No, it's really cool. We're supposed to be waiting. I guess one's coming soon for my son, which we're, Jessica's like, okay, because she's like, he's already fussy,

is this gonna get worse? Yeah, I guess it's gonna get worse. Well, they're different, right? Sometimes it causes them to be fussy. Sometimes you just notice different behaviors, right? So, like, you know, when he goes through, when Max misco, through Leap's, sometimes it is, like that, sometimes all of a sudden,

he goes from, like, happy kid and perfect to all of a sudden, he's gripping and whining over all the shit right so that's just part of it but then sometimes it's just behavior changes like right now the thing that we're in is he's really really attached to Katrina and I especially me and so it's weird it's almost like I have to one I do that I sneak out of the room. So if he sees me and I'm in the room, I can't just leave, like that's a big deal. Like I can't just walk out of the room or how you'll get pissed if he's not invited.

So I have to like sneak out anytime, or if I'm, if he's having a good time and he's playing with, you know, family or friends or doing his own thing and I walk in like he's straight over to me and attached to me. And it's great, like I love it. I love the, I love that he's like that with me right now. Yeah, you know, because he's a teenager, so yeah.

Right, that's what everybody says. So I'm very cognizant of that. So I make an effort to enjoy it as much as I pause again, but it is a bit of a challenge. So yeah, they're all the leaps are different. And the app is always kind of, I mean, at least for us, it's been really accurate. I mean, every time that we've been trying to figure

what's going on with Max right now, the latest is I've told you we're troubleshooting, well, before we troubleshoot Dairy, we're messing with the raw milk first. And yesterday was the first full day of using it, and no throw up. So it's gonna be interesting to see, and Doc said it should within two or three days, you should.

For sure, no. If it was because of that, it'll be interesting. And then if he starts to, or he still does, then we'll actually eliminate dairy in the diet and see if that's it. But my theory was we were just drinking plain old grass-fed organic vitamin D milk, which, you know, when you... When you pasteurize it, it kills some of the enzymes and stuff. Yeah, digestive enzymes. So that's my theory is that he's not getting that, and his body's rejecting it a little bit. So far, so good. We'll see.

Well, my son's got some gas stuff going on. The kid farts like a man. I'm serious. Makes you a little proud. Oh, yeah. It's not a baby fart. It's like a guttural low. It's like a man. Like I'm serious. Make you a little proud. Oh yeah, it's not a baby fart. It's like a guttural low. It's got some bass, fart, and we just die laughing. Does it?

Oh, speaking of that, oh, so I'm on actually a little bit of damage control because basically, we yesterday was my youngest birthday, and we didn't have any power. Right, because of the wind and stuff. We had crazy windstorm come through. My whole neighborhood just got pelted with all of these huge branches. Lots of trees fell over. It was hard for me to get the word.

It was crazy. It took him a long time to get the power back on. Some people are neighborhood-av generators. I'm obviously slowed to that game. So we were trying to make fun and make light to enjoy his birthday and what not. And so we thought we'd go up to my parents, which lived not too far away because they have a generator and everything. And so we're going to go up there and watch a movie. And so you had to watch a movie that was like DVD. And so they get to pick out whatever movie like my parents had there.

And I didn't know the list. And I'm just sitting there waiting. And then they wanted to see something funny. So they picked blazing saddles. Oh no, that's not appropriate. Boy, that's not very kid-appropriate. Not even close. Like not at all.

I was like mortified. Like I couldn't even, and I'm like one of the first to be like, oh, this is funny, this is comedy. Like that bell Brooks, that's Mel Brooks. But it was like, it was like one of his first ones or like, you know, it is. It is so racy. Like it was, it's like, it's like sex jokes,

race jokes, race jokes. Like homophobic jokes, like just like everything, you, all the words, you don't want your kid to hear, we're actually hilarious. In there, which it's, yeah, like it's, there's, there's some humor in there, and there's like, we were in it just for the fart scene, you know, and I'm like, okay,

words is, it was just one scene where they eat beans, whatever, but the whole movie was just like this, like on slot of like assholes, like seeing words. And I'm just like, oh my god, like, so I was like after that, I had to kind of like do a little talk with them and like kind of explain like these are some of the worst words. That's gotta be an interesting dance for you, right?

Because you have Ethan and Everett with three years apart. Mm-hmm. Is that right? Right, three years apart. I gotta think that there's things that you're probably okay with Ethan hearing or seeing or being around, but then not so much ever it, but yet they do everything together.

So how do you manage that? How do you like, if it's a movie that you're like, Ethan's probably old enough to hear these things, but I don't know what everyone's doing this. Like and you can't separate them. So just think it's screwed. I have to watch all of you. Basically, you know that's what happens. You know that's what screwed. Oh, yeah, basically. He's just get screwed.

Well, you know, that's what happens. You know, that's what happens. Because I'm getting screwed. Yeah. He's getting screwed, too. You know, that's what happens when they look at, when they do studies on families where they have multiple children.

The youngest kid gets exposed to stuff at much younger ages than the oldest might have. Because of that. Well, yeah, because either the older sibling shows them or because the older sibling is kind of like the gauge. So it's like, that's probably why I have a much more messed up sense of humor in my brother. Yeah.

He's got to expose all that stuff way too early. Yeah, yeah. So tell me about the storm. Was it like how bad? Is it, I know down here, you know, it woke us up or bad. And it was like super, super loud. And I'm down in the city. Oh, it was loud.

Yeah, we were getting pelted with branches all night. It was almost on like every 20 minutes. I didn't get any sleep that night because it was like, if I didn't hear it, Courtney heard it and then would just like get startled and freak out and so I'd keep waking up. But yeah, one of my neighbors' car had one of these huge branches just like spear through both of his cars.

So he broke both windshields of his car. My other neighbor had one go right through like the awning of his roof and then there was one up the street that a whole tree came down and basically hit the end of this car and pushed it off towards this cliff and then another one like clipped the front of it. And I was like, wow, I've never seen this even, I don't know why, like all these trees were falling because is it that they're dry?

Is it, we haven't had enough rain or is it like, I don't know what the case is. Wasn't there, there was a more fire too, right? Yeah, there's a fire, oh yeah, so now, okay, so now we're dealing with that too. That's another thing that's somewhat close again to where I live that some people are getting evacuated again. And I'm like, what's happening, dude? This is supposed to be a different year. Yeah, like what we're doing this all over again.

Are we doing this again? And you don't want to, you don't ever consider not living up in the mountains. No, dude, like honestly, this is such a freak thing. Like, we've never had any so freak. It's happened twice in a day. No, it was like six months ago. Yeah, I want to live in, in boring suburbia, did not. Thanks. Yeah, we live with all the track houses where everybody goes to die. Thanks. I'll live in the woods. Hey, I have something for Doug. I want to ask you, Doug,

we brought up the other day, barstool sports, right? And we talked about their thing that they are doing and they're up to like, what, 25 million or something like that. They're fun. Yeah, they're fun, right? So I know it's been growing.

And we got an email and sent to us from our partner with Felix Gray. And they have partnered up with barstool sports and this fund, what's going on? Yeah, that's correct. So Dave, I'm have partnered up with barstole sports and this fund what's going on? Yeah, that's correct. So Dave, I'm not that familiar with barstool, but I think he's the host correct. Yeah, he's the founder. There's a dare. Erica, Erica is the CEO now, but he was the original founder, I believe. Okay, so Dave uses Felix Gray glasses. He's a big fan. And so what they're doing now, Felix Gray is donating 10% of every robling frame sale through January to barstual sports. This is so fucking awesome.

Yeah, great. I mean, I think it's so cool to see a private company like this that's got that kind of pool that is starting to gather all this money to be able to go out and give to these businesses that are struggling. So cool to see other and all the famous people that are getting on board now we're seeing big companies like Felix Gray trying to back it. It's going to be really interesting to watch over the next three to four months to see how much traction they actually get. I really really like that they're doing that. It's nice to watch. Yeah, pull up the fun again. Let's see where it's at now, Doug. It's a 22 million.

Did you see it? That's what has written up there. Oh yeah, but that's, I'm not sure that's updated. No, it's not updated. Because I think the last time I saw, I already seen it at 24 million. Really? Yeah, no.

It's growing that fast. Yeah, so really cool. 27 million. Wow, yeah. Yeah, for them. Yeah, that's a wrap. Hey, speaking of money, do you guys see what the mega millions is that?

No, what is it? Doug, pull it up because it changes all the time. Yeah, it's like the hundreds hundreds. Yeah, but almost close to like 500. Oh, it's almost a billion. No. Yeah, has it ever been that way? Well, pull it up right now. Wasn't the highest like 500 or 700 million before? Wasn't that I saw it at $500,000. $970 million. Oh my God. So it's gonna, I mean, it could, theoretically, I mean, theoretically, you could reach a billion dollars

for the mega million. Now, what are the theories on why, why it gets driven up this high sometimes? There's no theories. It's just if nobody wins, it goes up. So nobody's won for a while. So it keeps going up and up and up. So 900,

now what's the cash out? Is there a way you could see what the cash out is? Yeah, what do you mean? If you want to take it all at once? Yeah, it's not 90% percent. Is it 100% percent? Yeah, yeah. You guys ever met somebody who won the lottery, like a mega million. I knew someone who knew someone who won the lottery. And a client that's, yeah, that's it. Yeah, yeah, this lady. Really? Yeah. And they were so, like, they didn't want to disclose any of that to me. Was it when you worked for me or when you bought yourself?

No, I was bought myself. It was one of my clients that I just picked up randomly that you could even resound them, huh? No, I just shut up. Well, that's too expensive. Can you imagine how weak I would be if that, oh my god, that just did more to be embarrassed, oh, dude. Yeah, no, I think you're tight right now., that this didn't want to be embarrassed, dude. Yeah, no, I think you're tight right now.

Actually, we got three for nine, I'm special. Oh, did that get? Yeah, I did it take away clothes. Actually, I walked away from that deal and then they called me back and brought me back in and then gave me what I asked for. But yeah, they, but they didn't want me to know that they're worth whatever, it was like,

I think it was a hundred million that they had won. But then, but they had only, they basically, like, they put it in a way where they could, like, they couldn't touch it until, like, because the daughter, she set it up so the daughter couldn't have any access to it and everything until she was certain age and then there's all these parameters

that they could set with it. But, yeah, it was pretty smart. And they basically just, like just put it in the bank and then like lived off the interest and all that. Because the statistics on that is very similar to the biggest losers statistics. Oh yeah, people go back to the amount of smart one I've heard. Right, I think I've read before that it's 75 to 80%

of the people that went that end up losing or going bankrupt afterwards. So it's very similar to. Or causing other problems. Oh yeah. Yeah, because think about it this way. Imagine if all the people you knew because it's broadcast, right?

So especially this one, mega millions. Whoever wins this, so the way I would do it, as I'd see if there's a legal way to have a lawyer go and get my money, so I don't want anybody to know. Yeah, because like the, the, your family's gonna hit you up. There's anybody's never known. There's no way you don't. There's so much TV and pub around it.

You for about a week, you're as famous as the most famous actor actress. So imagine part down in front of your house. Exactly. Imagine what that would bring, right? You'd have all kinds of people coming up to you. Oh yeah, you know, remember, you know, how about help me out here, help me out there.

So either you'd have to be the biggest asshole and just be like, no. Or. I would lie and say I tied it up, just like Justin's. Yeah. Like, oh, you know what? I didn't even take any of it for myself. I put it away in a trust for my kids.

Yeah. And then I rolled up in a Bentley like the next era. There you go. Yeah, they bought all these other properties, but they kept like their first property. It was like, East San Jose and everything. And so I, whenever, it was totally modest house. Like, I totally, unassuming and I'm like asking for a lot of Oh, whatever, right? It was totally modest house. Like, I totally, unassuming,

and I'm like asking for a lot of money, you know, with my services. So I was like, I felt kind of like an asshole, but then after that, I was like, oh, I should ask for more. It's crazy. Yeah. Well, so half those theoretically,

let's just round it up, 500 million, then minus all the taxes that you would pay. Yeah, it's just, you'd end up with about 200 clean, right? 200, 200. No, it's okay. So I've looked at the, I knew you'd do this. Yeah, it's just, you don't, you'd end up with about 200 clean, right? 200, 200, 200. No, it's okay. So I've looked at the, I knew you'd do this.

Yeah, I have, I have looked at this before. Just in case. Yeah. Even though I never, I actually never buy a lot of tickets. I've never, but I was very curious on like the difference of, if you, because you have a, I think it's a 30 year choice payout.

Yeah. So you can either pay it out 30 years or you can take all of it up front. That's, if you, if you think that state is going to be solvent for 30 years. Right. Right. I don't know. I'm not taking that right.

So I, uh, I, and obviously taking it all up front, you definitely pay way more taxes. And if I were for something, if I remember correctly, the, all the fees and the everything it was, it's, it's, it's with including taxes, it's 50%. So you basically will end up with half of that money. And you're, and everything. Yeah, yeah, that's everything. Yeah, you take it all once. Yeah, you take it all once, taxes, every,

still that's like half a bill. Yeah, yeah, right, it's a lot. But then you, but I think you get closer to like 75% of it if you actually were to let it, you know, over the 30 years. Doug, let's say you took five, that half a billion, 500 million and put it into just a savings account. What do you get on a savings account right now? One, almost nothing. Almost nothing.

Yeah, but what is that still? With $500 million, it comes out to a lot of money. Yeah. Well, yes, I think so. I mean, like if you get Treasury bills or whatever they're called, T bills. Well, you could lock it. So the highest you can get in like an account like that is like 4% on a CD so CD right the best CD out there right now

I'll get you like 4.2% so you do and you can lock it for six months to a year at a time like that so figure 4.2% on would you say half a billion dollars half a billion that's a lot of money still Yeah, no, it's still be a lot of miles So how much would you give us if you won? I just want on record each of you guys? Yeah, if I won this one. Yeah, let's say you won half a billion that's a lot of money still. Yeah, no, it's still be a lot of wild. So how much would you give us if you won? I just want on record each of you guys Yeah, if I won this one. Yeah, let's say you won half a billion dollars. I thought we should tomorrow. I throw each of you guys 10 Mill Wow Wow, I would have been happy with I just put it in the business

But you guys you know, we'll figure something. Well, I don't know it like we live in the Bay Area throwing you guys a mill It's almost disrespectful. I feel it really yeah Like a familiar to be like hey, you could go by yourself a condo, and then this will cover you for the first couple of years of property taxes. That's real talk right there. I was just going to get you guys a gift card to target. I feel like a 10 million gift is to you, it says, you guys can go by yourself, a modest house here, and I got your property taxes coming from your life.

So basically, get you a house, that's it. That's what you get. That's 10 million here. I give you a million, you be fucked. That's what you get. That's 10 million here. You're gonna stay in the pocket. I give you a million, you be like, fuck, Rose, what am I gonna do with this? This is hilarious. Oh dude, there was a site I wanna bring up. There's this funny dad stereotypes.

I wanna see how many of these are true for you guys. Okay, are we being honest here? Yeah, so somebody's stupid with someone more hilarious. Here's one, why do dads always shake their hand full of peanuts or M&M's before popping them in their mouth? Yeah, that's a thing. You just learn that. I think it's been passed on for you.

I do the same thing. I can't just, like, you have to do this. Well, I'm hoping it was like so far, so. Okay, so my theory is that, okay, so when you have a whole handful of them, they're kind of sliding all over, but when you shake them around, you're getting them right here underneath the index finger, so you could, it's the pop. It's the proper toss. So the shaking is placing them, it's the pop, it's the proper toss.

So the shaking is placing them in the right spot, it's getting the proper toss. That's my theory, I might do it. That's a good one. That's logical. Here's another one. Why do dads always have really thick wallets? That's kind of true. That's the Seinfeld episode. Do you remember that one? No, I don't. Oh, you don't remember the Seinfeld episode? Oh, yeah. Yeah, where he put it huge. He pulls his ball out, it looks like it's like a triple quarter bounder. Like it's like this big and he's got like every wrist.

Because it's all the receipts. Yeah, exactly. They put too much stuff in there. Here's a, why do dads always grunt when they sit down? We've talked about that. That just started happening to me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't understand that.

We're tying your shoes. Yeah. Why do dads think they can outsmart the GPS? That's a good one. Two. Why do they know better than that, actually? Why do dads always sleep on thesmart the GPS? That's a good one. Mm-hmm, too. Why do dad know better than that, actually? Why do dads always sleep on the couch as soon as they sit down? Because we're tired of listening to your shit.

Only you can do that. Sal is the only one in this group that I have seen that can just like on-command sleep, bro. Bro. It is, we talk about your, it is the super power. Your photographic memory, the other skill that you have that I'm very envious of is the ability to like just fall to sleep. You would fall asleep in your own goddamn meeting to your business. If we weren't constantly checking you every 15 minutes.

I have to stand up and move. Anyone who's running a meeting in sales in every 15 minutes, it's like you say sales name. So, Sal, what do you think of that? I don't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's, I agree, I agree. Somebody's a fuss-neezing really loud.

That's definitely a bad thing. Katrina claims. Katrina claims, now see, okay, again, now who's coming up with these ideas? Women that have said this about men. Well, I think kids are women. Because I think that Katrina believes that when I became a dad, all of a sudden everything I do is obnoxiously loud. You know what it is, dude?

It's that she's more conscious of me. That's what I said. I said, it's not me. I'm the same dude, making the same sounds I have for the last decade we've been together. You are just so anal when it comes to sounds with our son. Like literally, he has, this is no joke, and I think we're gonna have to see a therapist

about this at one point. So Katrina has a minimum of two, sometimes three sound machines in his room when he's sleeping. Wow. And then, It's cause that can be a fall sleeping. Hey, and then on top of that, I'm down to the second level of the house, right?

So, where super far away from his room, okay? And I like turn the channel up to where I can like kind of hear what's on the TV and she's like, turn the TV down, it's way too light, you're gonna wake the baby up. I don't feel so bad then. I'm like Katrina, you're crazy. I'm like, you could literally go jump up and down on the wood floor right in front of his bedroom and he would sleep

with those, that's what those white noises do is it cancels that distant noise like that. It's, but she's so. I don't feel so bad because I'll be downstairs, Jessica's trying to put the baby asleep, and I'll close it covered, or I'll put something down, and I'll get a text in all caps. Be quiet.

I know, I know. What are you doing? Yeah, I'm sorry. I stopped around like an elephant, especially the morning. I can't help it. I stumble. I can't see what I'm doing. Like it takes my body a while to like see clearly

and to wake up properly. You need your 15 catatons. Yeah. Well that's why I try to tell her I'm like, I'm six, three, 230 pounds. I'm not petite. Like it's not easy to like move lightly everywhere. Like you do.

Does it work? Let's say more. Yeah. Yeah. My kids tell me to say that about it. But why do you do everything so dramatic? That's my daughter. Everything you do is so dramatic.

She thinks you're so dramatic. Oh my god, I forgot. I forgot that. Did you just do the comedy? She goes, why do you drink water and it's so dramatic and you close it covered and it's so dramatic. Everything you do is dramatic and just cuz like I told you. Chroma caught me all the other day where I was like every time I take a drink and I'm

just like I'll take a drink or something and I'll be like, yes, that's oh fuck I do, every time I take a drink, I'll take a drink or something. I'm like, yes, that's almost. Oh, fuck, I do that every time. I didn't realize that. I was like, oh, mind blown. I didn't fight so I'm just going over that. Like, why do you have to do that? I'm like, I don't know what you're talking about.

I feel like that was programmed in us from stupid commercials. Hold on a second. Try drinking without doing it. You can't. It's not the same. It's not at all. That's the same. If I drink, Jessica's like, try drinking without doing it. You can't, it's not the same. It's not as good as it is. Not at all, not satisfied. If I drink, Jessica's like, I can hear you swallow. I'm like, I don't know how to drink water before.

I don't even know how to do it. What the hell is going on? Yeah, I would go, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, I guess I can't do that. Hey, you guys see Netflix is now up to 200 million subscribers. Holy cow. Yeah, so the, the, wait, what's their average monthly? Huge, really, $9.99 is it? Is it a 10 bucks? I don't know, it. Oh, yeah. Yeah, so the, the, Wait, what's their average monthly? Dude, 999 is what's it?

Is it a 10 bucks? I don't know, it's nine, yeah, but I think it went up to 12. Maybe Doug can fact check me there. They, they were nine. I think they started at six and they went to nine and then I think they're at 12 now. So was that 20, was that $2 billion, $2 billion?

I mean, what is it? Whoa, is that $2 billion? Dude, yeah, you said Fizzy Mouth. I don't know what I just said. You should calculate, but sorry. What is that? Yeah, it's $izzy Math, but you should calculate it. Sorry, what is that? Yeah, it's $2 billion. If it's 10 bucks on average, right? It's $200 million.

It's gonna be $2. So it was $8,000. Oh, now it's $13.99. Okay. And $17.99. So you could probably do an average of $10, like you said. I think that's a good one. No wonder they're producing so many damn Netflix movies.

Now, okay, so I want to hear you guys. Now, of course, this is just my circle. So this is not like, I can't back this up other than this. I have a lot of friends, and we all have Netflix that have felt lately that it's kind of like, eh, they've just so much content, right? They're the content kings right now

when it comes to streaming media. But I mean, I can't name one Netflix-produced movie. I don't like anyone. That I thought was like amazing that will go down as like, oh, that's gonna be a classic movie. So, what is your theories on like that? And they're dumping a lot of money into that right now

of producing their own movies and content. And there's not a lot of stuff. I know Stranger Things was a big original that they did. That was a hit. That probably made a lot of money and stuff like that. But that was a series, are you talking about a movie? Yeah, either or, right? It's anything that they, that's original to them, right?

So that's, I think that's where probably the most profit is, right? Is that the other one where you had to have your eyes close the whole time? What was that one again? Oh, bird box. Yeah, that one. Okay. But that one. What was that one again? Bird box. Yeah, that one. Okay.

But that one, I think that one made them some money. But yeah, they really haven't had any original, you know, produced series or movies that have really taken off in a long time. Yeah, I'm kind of like, meh. You know what I get a feel from it is that it's an example of when they use like the algorithm to hack, right? So it's like they, they all are kind of like too reliant on it. Yeah, right. Like it's, it's like, oh, that's okay. It's an example of when they use the algorithm to hack, right? So, it's like they all are kind of like too reliant on it. Yeah, right.

It's like, oh, that's okay, it's not bad. It's like because they hit all the buttons, right? They hit all the things that you're supposed to like this. Therefore, you don't, it's a lukewarm. Well, you know what they do well is they'll buy a series. That Cobra Kai was not that flexed. They bought that. Yeah, that was YouTube.

Yeah, but I don't know, okay, what I don't understand is how profitable it, I would just, okay, my guess, just like it is in like our business or most businesses, is where the most profit would probably be is your own produce content. To buy a series like Cobra Kai from YouTube, I would imagine cost them tens of millions of dollars to do that just to put it on their streaming service. So I don't think that that is as profitable for them as creating their own content. Tiger King. I mean, that was amazing.

Was that theirs? Yeah, Netflix. They have one on now that's called Night Stalker. And that was a cultural phenomenon, for sure. It's Tiger King. It was awesome. Has anybody watched the Night Stalker one that's up right now? No.

Apparently it's about that serial killer, the Night Stalker. I haven't watched it yet because I tried to watch it, but Jessica's eyes. No, you guys have officially fucked up my Netflix completely. How? Both you two. Yeah. And why do you think I never touch your night? Well, because it's on the trucky house.

So whoever's watching it over there, the one I have upstairs is you. Now I got all this aliens conspiracies. Well, shit. Like just the, the glass I was like, we're clicking through him and and she's like why is it our Netflix looks nothing like stuff we watch anymore Oh, well, it's cuz it's logged into the trucky house and I just freaking everybody's up there using it And so we get all these weird freaking shows that are I saw one the other day It was like a documentary and it had like this lizard looking person with a crown on their head I know you know what I'm talking about just

Yeah, you do know the tech about I just the cover alone I say Justin seen this all I need you guys that's the real entertainment you guys are Out there I love it. Yeah There was a they had one on I don't know if it was on Netflix But it was on the crack epidemic of the 80s. Wow, that is crazy. If you guys learn about that. Oh yeah. Oh my gosh, that was so devastating. I watched that and then I did watch some

of the Tiger Woods one. Oh, you did. A little bit. Okay, what do you think so far? I think it's, boy, it's so far it might halfway through the first, only the first episode. Okay. But man, his talented is hell.

Obviously, naturally talented something that he was born to do. But his dad, you can see already just the dysfunction and how he's making, and he's feeding his kid that he's like the Messiah. You know, that's gonna mess up a kid. You don't tell a kid that. Oh, I know.

Imagine the pressure of trying to live up to that, right? And then you wonder why he went on this like crazy vagu, like you'll see later on, right? He gets on, he goes on this bench of like in Vegas every other week and then they get into like these. And there's like, there's companies and of our businesses that like prey on guys like him that are like super wealthy and rich, they come in

and they literally, and in the documentary, they talk about this, this girl's getting interviewed and she's like a, you know, I don't know what her technical name of her business, but she's like a madame or a boss lady of all the chicks and everything, right? And drugs, anything you fucking, lady pin, whatever you wanna call it, and they get off the plane and they're like,

whatever you desire will make sure it happens. I mean, and then you treat them like that. And when you got these guys that can spin, you know, I mean, people listening, you're like, oh, that's, but, I mean, if you're really presented with that truly, and you're on top of the world, that's a difficult thing to say noted. Well, especially if your ego's bloated. And your whole life, you've been told that you're the king. Right. And then, and you haven't experienced a lot of these crate, like you didn't have time to go do drugs and party and have, you know, orgies and crazy shit.

You didn't have, you were too busy. I missed that too, Adam. You missed that time, friend. I never did that. Yeah, well, you were married in 19. That's what happens, guys. That's supposed to be somewhere like 25 or 20. Yeah, he would seem like he was all studious

and a bit of a nerd, you know, going, oh, totally. Oh, yeah, yeah, no, he totally was. And so, yeah, this is, it's pretty common, I think. And, you know, this is extreme with like golfing, but you see this even with like really strict parents. So, you know, like if you have parents who don't let you do anything whatsoever and then the kids do it college and go crazy. It's a bad combination of that plus a bloated ego.

Thinking that you are different than everybody are better in all ways. And then you just behave in bad ways. People who believe that behave in ways that are not. Sure, sure, that are bad. That are bad. Speaking of crazy stuff, I'd pull up this article, this happened in Arizona.

So these homeowners bought this new house in Arizona. And as they bought it and they're in there moving their stuff and the owners, the new owner's father noticed that one of the mirrors in the bathroom was kind of weird. So he went to do something with it and then found that it was a two-way mirror. No. There were wires. Oh, that's what. There were wires from the mirror to like another part of the room. No. so they started to, in this girl, this woman has shared videos of her house that she just bought on TikTok and is showing people elsewhere.

So apparently the previous owners had wired up this house with all these, did they like Airbnb it? Or, they would have parties and stuff in this house. And apparently they would spy on people in the bathroom and do a bunch of weird shit. So they found all this stuff in this house. Apparently they would spy on people in the bathroom and do a bunch of weird shit. They found all this stuff in the house that they bought. What? I know.

That is creepiest butt. Hell of creepy. You can imagine that? Hell is wrong with people. Oh, remember that house? Then we rent a house once that was weird like that? We rent it house. And we rent it house.

And we rent it for finale everywhere. Yeah, we rent it house in Hollywood Hills. And I forget what there's 100% was used for a porn show. Yeah, well, no, there's a term for it up there, and that's actually one of the things that they have to, I know that. What's the valley, there's that valley there, from the end of the valley.

That's where it was, right? Yeah, well, it close to that area, right? Not far from that area, where we were staying that one time, and I forgot what I heard, but I know that all the houses that get rented there, that's like, there's all these rules around that because it's so common. People rent them and then shoot a porn and then...

Yes, and then they bounce out like that. Remember that? There were like wires coming out of the wall. It was a room that we couldn't go in for whatever reason. There was like a mound of ground up marijuana on the countertop still. It's like, you guys didn't even have the house cleaners here before us. Like, oh my God. We have a few horror stories in the houses that we rented. I'm like, there'd be a beast stepping up, dude.

They're leaving gifts for the gig. Yeah, that's how we looked at it. Hey, roll that shit up, dude. Don't waste that. Did you guys see that? There was a documentary of this guy who owned one of those motels that he basically like set it up. So there was like an upstairs part or basically he could like climb up in the

rafters and had like cameras in each one of the rooms so we could see and was doing this for years. And nobody had any idea and he like came clean on this video and was like talking about his obsession with like watching people and like. Oh my God. You met people out there like that. The beating I'd give someone I found out they were spying on me. Yeah, you're the kicker.

That's so hard. That's not even funny. It's just private. Speaking of heart, I think we have to address, so I want to hear what you guys have to say because of course, it was inevitable when we talked about the, somebody asked a question about the 75 heart

and we all went on probably a similar rant about how we feel about it and kind of poo pooed all over it. And of course, he has a massive following of people that love what he's doing and support everything he's doing. And so we got a little bit of backlash on the YouTube channel and comments regarding that that we were inaccurate about how we described 75 hard and that,

it's not designed to be a way of life and that it's really designed to challenge you mentally for those 75 days and to, you know, it's not designed to be a way of life and that it's really designed to challenge you mentally for those 75 days and to, you know, the things that you would normally say yes to and do with the ideas that you are disciplined for 75 days and turn down all these things. It's not designed to be a way of life. So-

It's a spiritual practice. So, I guess, is that what it is that how? I mean, that's what it sounds like. It's like fasting. Yeah, you know, you're apparently, for 75 days, you're dedicating yourself to this to see what kind of growth you can get out of it. So I wonder how many people actually use it that way.

Well, yeah, not only that, does that change your opinions on it and if so, why and if not, why not? It doesn't change my opinions because I can guarantee the vast majority of people that are doing it or doing it for weight loss reasons or doing it for body composition change reasons. Just like fasting, fasting is such a small percentage of people that do fasting are actually doing it for actually true health, healthy reasons.

Fasting is just people are using it as a way to starve themselves or lose weight or it's a new diet, same thing. So I think even if it is just a mental thing, right, that the people are using it as a way to starve themselves or lose weight or it's a new diet, same thing. So, so I think, even if it is just a mental thing, right, that the people are claiming, I still have a problem with it because the desired outcome of getting you started or getting into health and fitness is to create behavioral changes in your life. And if you're trying to make the claim to me that this is just supposed to be a mental challenge for 75 days, then what is the desired outcome of after the 75 days? Are you supposed to maintain some of those things? Are you supposed to cut your training from two times a day every single day down to just

one time a day? Or what is the desired outcome, or just to prove that you have the mental fortitude to say, note all these things and train two days a week, indoor, outdoor, all the crazy things around it. Like, what is the real desire to outcome of that? If we are starting that to kickstart your health and fitness journey, it's the opposite of my philosophy with training a client. I want to start them with as little as possible

because I want it to stick forever. I don't want to say, okay, these are all the bad things in your life. We're gonna go as hard as we can for the next 75 days to try and resist from it to prove that you have the mental fortitude. And then after that, we can trickle it in how you want. Yeah, I agree with that.

I think for the most part, if it's an introducing somebody into health and fitness, I have issues. I look at that as more of a challenge for somebody who has good habits already established. And this is something that they can kind of stretch their capacity to, you know, see what they can do like mentally now that they've figured out like how to manage all these things properly, you know, in their life physically.

So I just don't, the all or nothing, it's very like a similar approach to that. Like I just, I find a lot of flaws with that approach and I've seen that actually in training people all the time. It's like you go too hard, it's, you know, you're gonna have some successes but you're also gonna have a lot of failures with that approach.

Yeah, I'd be really curious to see the statistics on how many people that actually won, complete it, to be first of all, I would imagine there's an incredible fallout rate Because of how crazy it is. I mean once I do to spin somebody out You know just to create more bad things right and then and then let's let's look at first Okay, what percentage of people don't even make the 75 they fall off before that and then what percentage of people Complete the 75 and then what do their behaviors look like for the next six months to a year? And what I would challenge in question is, did it really take some anybody, or what percentage

of people actually took that, ran it for 75 days, and then implemented great behaviors for the rest of the day? We already have statistics on just diet. I mean, forget all the other changes. Somebody does a no-carb diet or somebody does a diet where they cut out all sugar. We know what the statistics are on that. And the fail rate is 80% and 90%.

And I'm talking about, they're following people for a couple of years. I bet if you follow people long enough, the fail rate probably goes up to closer to 100. So we already know that. And so there's more changes than just diet in that 75 hard. So I would bet money that the fail rate was just as bad as we see with other stuff.

I mean, ask you Adam, because I know you are always in close contact with our partners and sponsors. And from what I've noticed on Instagram, it seems like one of the fan favorites by a long shot is Magic Spoon. That's got to be the one. I see the most posts, the most people commenting.

Am I accurate? Is that what the real thing? Yeah, it was actually, I remember only first sign last year with them and I was a little concerned. So one of the things I asked when we bought this little business stuff on the scenes of people, no, whoever gives a shit about this, I always ask like what their average purchase price is, lifetime value of a customer. It always gives me a good idea of how well we should be able to convert based off of the traffic that we see.

So I can always tell like right away, okay, this is a product or this is something that we love, it's great, but the price point where they're at, I don't know if we can sell as much to justify the spend for commercial for them, and I'm very honest with that. And I was really concerned with management, so cheap. You know, you- That's boxes, cereal. Yeah, $39, you know, $39 is their average purchase because you get those four boxes that come in for that, right?

So that's kind of their average purchase price, which is low for us. We do much better with items that are 150 and above because we don't have a massive Joe Rogan size podcast, but most people, if we say, hey, this is something that we like or use, a lot of people will check it out. Well, I was really worried about

Magic Spoon for those reasons. It's actually of all the things that we're partnered with, more people use Magic Sp spoon than anything else. And I just, what I think they did really, really well. I wish we thought what happened to them. Well, I mean, that's what we hope. We hope, yeah. I hope that people would, I mean, every once in a while,

I saw something on a four minute day which I tried the fruity thing. I don't like that. I was like, what? I know that's the best one. You want high, bro? Or what? Like, who does not like the fruity cereal?

It's like so good. Anyways, it's, yeah, no, they add of all the partners that we work with, they have performed the best. And again, I think it's just because I've tried a lot of these like, quote unquote, healthy cereals or cereal that is supposed to have more protein. And you get one of two things. One, the ones that claim high protein,

high proteins like 10 grams of protein in a serving, it's not really that high of protein. Or it tastes like fucking cardboard and it's terrible. And they just have hit it out the park with how amazing it tastes and the macros are incredible. Even when I've shared on the show where I've over and doled, just and I've had like this big ol' bowl of it, when you break down the macros are incredible. Even when I've shared on the show where I've over-endolged and I've had like this big ol' bowl of it, when you break down the macros,

when you look at sugar and protein and calories, and it's just, it's beautiful. So whether you have a nice little serving size, it gives you a little 20 gram shot of protein, or you go kind of bananas, and you have 80 gram serving of protein, the calories are really, I really, really balanced for what you're getting nutrient-wise from it. I think that's why it's just done so well.

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or are compound lifts sufficient in developing arms? You know, frequency, although now, I'm starting to see people really start to play with frequency of training. It's, for a long time was a variable that was not utilized effectively. You can train muscle groups quite often throughout the week, so long as you modify the intensity. Just gotta manage your intensity.

Yeah, you can't train your arms all the time, super hard, but you can train them often if a lot of those workouts are also easy. So, if you're doing two hard workouts a week where your arms are if a lot of those workouts are also easy. So if you're doing two hard workouts a week where your arms are getting a lot of work, can you add more volume, more frequency and get your arms to respond even more? You can just keep the intensity kind of low. The best result I ever got with myself and with clients

was exactly that playing with frequency. And so theoretically, you can work out your arms five days a week, two of them relatively hard, the rest of them kind of easy, giving yourself a pump and feeling the muscles work and that's about it, but you'll get great results doing that. Now, what are your as-is thoughts on the individual variance here of like, because how I, and I can't help but think

of Justin right in the situation, because I think if you watch the two of us do a bunch of the same lifts, it just looks different. And how he recruits muscle to do a pull up or a row is different than how I recruit muscle to do a pull up or a row. And some people, when they do compound lifts, their bar, their biceps and triceps develop incredible with just doing that alone. Uh, I'm not like that. Like if I, if I just do compound lifts, my arms don't really develop

nearly as much as if I put some sort of attention and focus on it. I think Justin's the opposite of that. I think that he can do a lot of the, the functional training he does and just stick to a lot of the compound lifts he does and his arms put on size really well. How much do you think of this is genetic and then the individual variants of how people recruit muscle when they do these lifts? That's hard to say, there's always a huge genetic variance, regardless. If you look at power lifters who transition to bodybuilding, these are guys who've been lifting heavy, very strong, lots of compound lifts,

and they move over to body building, and what are the areas that they typically will lack? Arms, it's usually arms, right? Because they explode. They didn't do a lot of isolation and volume for the arms because of powerlifting. So I think regardless, you'll get value from doing a little bit more volume of frequency.

You got to modify the intensity. Yeah, I definitely think there's both. Both provide value. And I think that incorporating both, like especially doing the gross motor movements and then adding the frequency with isolation movements, obviously that's a favorite recipe of mine. But yeah, there adding the frequency with isolation movements. Obviously, that's like a favorite recipe of mine. But yeah, there's the opposite too.

Like there's people that only stick with, you know, doing isolation movements all the time and doing bodybuilder-style training, but then all of a sudden, they'll do heavy pull-ups, they'll do dead lifts, and all of a sudden, like their arms get affected, like they've never got affected before. So it's just, I think it's just introducing a new variable in the mix that really gets

them to respond. And by the way, this is how maps aesthetic is designed, right? So we have three foundational days, which are mostly your compound lifts where you're kind of hitting the entire body. And then you have two days a week that are focus sessions. And the focus sessions are designed to be moldable for the person. So if buys and tries are the area that you want to develop up your arms, then you would have focus sessions where you're doing a lot of these isolation exercises on those other

two days. So you have the, all the compound lifts you normally do. And then so that all they are are volume builders that we've built into the programming. And it's customizable to the person based off of what areas that you want to develop on your body. So if it's your arms, your shoulders, it doesn't matter what muscle you pick the muscle, and then we show you how to build it into the program.

That's that program was designed for somebody who has a question like this where they're like, hey, I want to bring up a body part, and that's how you do it. In fact, if you go to mindpumpfree.com, there's a guide there. It's free on how to build a bigger arm. So you just download it, it's totally free, and we go in a little more detail on some of the things There's a guide there. It's free on how to build a bigger arm. So you just download it.

It's totally free. And we go into a little more detail on some of the things you do to help develop your arms. Next question is from Body by HK. What do you think of trainers using unstable surfaces to train compound movements? For example, barbell back squat on wobble pillows or a bozeboth? So when these unstable surfaces, I remember specifically, so I've been in fitness long enough to remember these being introduced into fitness. So when I first started working as a trainer, you didn't see any of this stuff at all.

You didn't even see a physical ball. It didn't exist. Yeah, this exploded after certain certifications were promoting it. Oh yeah, and all of a sudden, they came into the scene and they didn't just come into the scene, they took over. And then it was like every exercise on an unstable surface because it makes every exercise more effective.

So they went too far in the other direction. Now, I think we're a little bit more balanced. Do unstable surfaces provide value? They do. There's some value for sure. They could teach you, they slow your form down, they could teach you to activate your core and your posture.

It's of course a different type of movement, so recruits muscles differently. It does improve balance specifically on when you're standing on unstable surfaces because it's pretty specific. So I see value, but I don't, the value is specific. In other words, it doesn't replace the value of doing heavy both feet on the flat forecloth.

This is the very bottom of the pyramid. This is what you build upon. Like if there's issues with stability, then there's massive value in introducing unstable surfaces in order to regain that and feel, you know, how you need to recruit to be able to stabilize properly. But I mean, for the most part,

I would use this with clients, with body weight, and you know, if I'm really trying to specifically address an issue, like that's where I find a lot of value in that, adding load to it, you're gonna have to make a good argument for me to really accept that that's, you know, something that's a value for the person.

Well, I also want to caution you to falling into this trap of, and I feel like this is really common in the trainer space. We read a few books, we get some national certifications, we come fresh out of college, so we have some knowledge, and then we see things and we like to pick it apart and critique what Jane is doing over there with her trainer, like, oh my God, scoff at it, I can't believe knowledge and then we see things and we like to pick it apart and critique what you know Jane is doing over there with her trainer like oh my god scoff at I can't believe they're training on the dead and that's so stupid and that makes no and here's the thing like uh you don't know what that person is training for specifically and there there is an application

for almost any weird kind of thing that we've seen before. And I've learned now to not judge when I see stuff like that because I'm not in the trainer's head. Like I don't know what their desired outcome of that is. I think Sal nailed it that it's very specific, but you don't know that person could be what that specific thing is for. And that might be related to what they're trying to accomplish. And, you know, I've done enough weird things for clients that I'm sure somebody looked at me and judged,

but they have no idea what I'm trying to do. You know, Phil Darryu made that comment when we were just interviewing him recently when he gets people that are all these coaches and they're critiquing, it's like, you don't know my athlete. You don't know them the way I know them. I've seen them move and I've seen them compete

for the last three years, and there's very little specific things I'm trying to give them, and maybe this thing translates into that. Even though for general population and muscle building and strength, this looks ridiculous. It looks stupid, it doesn't make sense, but because I have a very specific goal in mind that I desired outcome with this person,

I do want to train that. So just be careful if you are a coach and a trainer and you're asking questions like this or you're judging other trainers that are doing that because you don't know these things, don't fall on that trap of assuming that you do. I had a surfer and a skateboarder, and I would train them.

And so this was one of those things they were trying to improve the way that they react and stabilize and balance like quickly. So there was some weird elements involved with that too. So to your point, you know, and specificity was definitely the reason for that. So yeah, you know, there are instances out there for sure. Yeah, my favorite tool of all the unstable tools

is just a fisioball. Fisioball is the most useful in my opinion, generally speaking. And there is a lot of value in using the fisioball for certain people. I mean, our map starter program uses quite a bit of the fisioball. And it's, I mean, this is how you want to start working out. TGG proper form gets you to activate properly,

stabilize properly, and then progressing from there to more traditional lifts. TGG proper form gets you to activate, properly stabilize, properly, and then progressing from there to more traditional lifts. I mean, it's a great transition. I mean, I would to get a step further and even say unilateral training. I mean, that's great stability. If you're doing one arm, one leg, anything, the stability that you get just

from doing unilateral training is phenomenal. So you don't even necessarily need to take it to having tools. Like to me, that's even more regressing it even further back is just getting to the place where you can do use every limb independently by itself and stabilize the major joints that right there and itself is a great place But again, we don't know what the trainer is with their desired outcome with their potential sport is or goal of the client So be careful next question is from Magnetic Beauty 101. Because of COVID, I've been doing a lot of walking outside. You guys always talk about cardio and how it hinders muscle gain.

Is there such a thing as too much walking, hurting gains? You know, technically, yeah, you can do anything too much. You can start to take away from your body's ability or desire to adapt in a specific way. Muscle building is an adaptation. But with walking, it's a much lower risk than if you're doing running or cycling or swimming. And also, there definitely is a time

that walking can improve your body's ability to build muscle. I mean, if you're sedentary completely all day long, like a lot of us are, a lot of us are sedentary all day long. Introducing walking will improve your health and could improve your body's ability to build muscle. I know this is true for me. If I just lift weights and do no cardio whatsoever, I don't build muscle as well

as if I lift weights and do some cardio to improve my health. So there's a sweet spot and you're gonna have to kind of figure that out for yourself. Yes, technically you could walk too much, but what that number is or what that amount is is going to be different. I think that would be difficult to do, don't you? And explain to Sal, you probably explain this better than I. I can is how our body utilizes energy, right? So if you have 20 pounds of body fat on you that you have stored energy on your body.

And if you run out of sugar, if your body runs out of glycogen to utilize as fuel, its next source it will tap into fat. The idea of it starting to metabolize muscle is not something the body wants to do. The only reason why it would go there, if it's being forced to go there, which would be, and that's where cardio or exercise

really comes in when you're that low of calories. So let's say you're in a very depleted state, you don't have any, you're in a deficit calorie deficit because you're trying to lose body fat, you've been walking around like crazy, and then you decide you wanna push the body and you wanna go run, or you wanna do like an intense circuit or whatever. That's where we're most likely at risk

of the body starting to metabolize. Yeah, but even that's rare, right? It's pretty rare for the body to metabolize muscle. You have to be really starved yourself to do that. Really, the reason why you lose muscle when you do too much cardio is because your body is always trying to get better at what you do a lot of. The strength and endurance, they can be synergistic, but at some point they start to compete. If you want to become a better endurance machine, that means you want to become efficient with energy and you don't want to have too much muscle. You don't need a lot of strength for a lot of endurance.

Number one, it burns up a lot of energy and endurance training tends to burn a lot of calories. Your body becomes a more efficient machine. You reduce muscle mass and you become better at cardio. When you're trying to build strength, then it's less concerned about becoming energy efficient and it's more concerned about building strength, which requires a lot of muscle. So imagine if you had a car that was like AI car that could adapt according to, you know, depending on what you do with the car.

If I drive that AI car at 30 miles an hour, but I drive for 15 hours a day, it's gonna turn itself into a one cylinder engine car but very, very little fuel, and I'm not going very fast, I'm going like 30 miles an hour. So that's what's gonna turn to you. But what if all I do with that car is a drag race it twice a day, it's gonna develop into a 10 cylinder engine,

very big power, burn a lot of energy. So that's what happens. So you're sending competing signals to the body at some point and your body's gonna choose, so you can become a jack of all trades. If you do a lot of strength training, then you'll get some muscle, some endurance, or you can do all endurance or mostly endurance and very little strength, or you can do lots of strength training where you build more muscle, not so much endurance.

At some point they're synergistic, but then again, at some point, they start to compete. And that's, there's a lot of variables that come into play. Walking is not one of the ones I'm worried about. You have to walk a lot, typically, to make that happen. So I wouldn't worry too much about that. Next question is from Melissa Naft. If women account for 50% of gym memberships

and the population in general, and strength training is so important, why don't gyms try to make efforts to entice women to lift? Well, that's funny because what... Wasn't that been the initial... Well, first of all, what is enticing women to lift? The way it's okay, does it look like

painting the machines purple, like they've tried in the past? Yeah, I mean, is that what you're looking for? You know what, they've tried in the past. I mean, is that what that was? Well, they've tried. Looking for? You know what, they've tried. And they're right, this is true. Now, women make up 50% of the population, but actually are a majority of the consumer population. Like women are the consumers of the population. They do a lot of the purchases.

They have most of the buying power. It's totally true. And gyms have attracted women, but they've attracted women with group exercise classes, yoga classes, and cardio, and they've tried attracting women with resistance training, but it hasn't worked. Now it's working more nowadays

because the information coming out is more accurate, but there's a lot of myth that we've had to overcome. That strength training builds big, bulky muscles. That it makes you look manly that if you want a long lean tone physique, you need to do lots of cardio in classes and stay away from the weights. That's, it takes a long time to erase that. Well, yeah, what a lot of stigma is still around that. Yeah.

And to like the environment itself, it's like, they've tried really hard to kind of tone down a lot of the aggressive kind of, you know, vibe when you go into the weight room itself, because the weight room itself was always a bit intimidating, even for your average person, even guys, you know, just coming in and let alone, you know, women coming in to try and like do their thing. So, I think there's a lot of work still needs to be done with that, but I think there has been a lot of thought and focus around at least putting the information out. So I'm gonna realize how much more effective,

you know, they could make their workouts towards their goal. Well, there's a couple things I wanna address. I don't understand what the, get some representation here, what would you guys answer to that? Like, what would you do to represent? I think what she's saying is, is why don't gyms knowing that there's half their members or women or more?

Why aren't they making the weight rooms more attractive to women? Well, that's my point. So what does that look like? Painting it fucking purple? What are you saying? What was in it? The machines are, because there was some machines that you couldn't, for people that are smaller was in it? The machines are, because there was like some machines that you couldn't like,

you know, for people that are smaller in general, like they would like, you know, some of the machines weren't set up, you know, to favor that, but like I don't see any, that's what I'm trying to challenge you both in, okay? That you're not addressing is how would a gym do that to give women a better representation? I don't understand that.

I, without being condescending. Right, exactly, that's my point. I'm, by the way, I'm being sarcastic when I say pain in purple, I know that sexist, better representation. I don't understand that. Without being condescending. Right. Exactly. That's my point. By the way, I'm being sarcastic when I say pain at purple. Right. I know that's sexist. I would never say that that thing is a good idea. But that's what I think that's how they panned her to women in the past is by changing the color of the machine, the same goddamn machine, a guy's lifting on the other room that's green. So what would they do to give you a better representation?

That's my first thing. And then the second thing I'll address in this is, you know, it takes me to my conversation this last weekend where I was with our marketing team. And he's constantly reminding me that you are the minority atom, you are not the majority. You, you having the understanding of like how people should exercise and why strength training is so important to women, you are a sliver

of what the majority think. 99% of women still think that lifting heavy weights and squatting and deadlifting is not ideal for them. So you gotta understand that still. Like the person who's asking this question, you're not that group, you are obviously aware of it. And I think that what we're doing with the show and have been trying to do for last six years in this question, you're not that group, you are obviously aware of it. And I think that what we're doing with the show and have been trying to do for the last

six years is the shift that conversation. And that's what inspired us because we saw the opportunity because there's not a lot of people that we're speaking to women about strength training and the importance of them. I manage gyms for a long big box gyms, like these are the kind of gyms that are the mainstream gyms, right? So these weren't bodybuilder gems, they were just mainstream fitness facilities, and it was pretty rare that a new member, a female, new member would come in and asked to see the weight room, because that's what she was most interested in. Cardio or the group X. Right, so the gems really are just reflecting the market.

That's right, yeah. So, but it's changing, okay? Because when I first started 20-something years ago, you saw one woman in the weight room or none. Now, it looks like 20% of them are, so it's increased quite a bit and it's continuing to increase, as that gets, becomes a bigger portion, or as that's something that they demand and want, then you start to see Jim's

start to change a little bit or maybe not change at all. Yeah, as a guy or women in. I was gonna say I don't see I don't see a Jim changing the the structure of it or the I don't know maybe the the conversation around it maybe the camera and maybe that's what you're asking me right now Maybe like when you like right now only watch And maybe that's what you're asking me right now. Maybe like right now when we watch TV and you get maybe a 24-hour fitness or a... Why aren't there more women squatting to 25 in the commercial or something?

Like maybe that's what you're looking for. And I look forward to the day that you see more of that. Yeah, more of a cultural portrayal of a lot of women lifting weights as opposed to always doing cardio. I mean, I don't really know that yeah, it's going to come from, you know, outside sources coming into the gym. I don't think the gym is really going to be able to like structure that. Well, I think here's another thing and we've given CrossFit lots of credit. Here's another

place where, you know, I think they've done a good job here. I think that you see a lot of women with great bodies that do Crossfit and they lift heavy ass weight. And so they've done a good job of representing women lifting heavy weight. Yeah, you know, this is, so this is kind of behind the book that I've been putting together and writing and is really talking about some of the damage

that's been caused to people's health because resistance training is not, it's still got this kind of aura around it where, oh, it's for guys who want to build a lot of muscle or body builders. I mean, let's take the conversation even further, right? Yes, women feel this way, but just me even mainstream, average person.

The average person, when they think about exercise, if they go to the doctor and the doctor says, hey, you need to go work out, they don't think to themselves that they should go lift weights. That's not the first thing that pops in their mind. They think I'm gonna go swim or run, go run. Even though the evidence, the evidence is actually quite clear now that if you had to pick one form of exercise,

resistance training is superior. It's just superior, especially when you consider the context of modern life. And even if you consider everybody's goals, if you're older, oh, I wanna strengthen my bones and move more. Move better, what's the best form of exercise for that resistance training? Oh, I just wanna lose weight, I wanna lose weight,

and I need to fast some metabolism. Resistance training is the best form of exercise. I wanna get stronger and build muscle, obviously resistance training. So I think I hope that soon we're gonna start to make that shift where that becomes the de facto form of exercise. It's the one that default form of exercise that people turn to. But I mean, I get why it happened.

The original people that showed people what resistance training was all about were bodybuilders. So of course, taking a while. Yeah, that's gonna take a while. It was like Arnold, you know. We just gotta need more examples. We just need better examples. That's a good thing to say.

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